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tqhcm8 | 205 | When is Tesla+SpaceX going to launch my photo into space per the Referral Program? The Tesla Referral Program that ended in February 2019 promised that every referral included the award to Launch Your Photo into Deep Space Orbit https: web.archive.org web 20190617075256 https: www.tesla.com support referral-program I haven t heard anything about this. It seems like Tesla just decided not to do it. Did I miss an email? Did this ever happen? Was there ever any news? My understanding is that Tesla made a legal commitment to this by naming this in the Referral Program and needs to follow through. | I m still waiting for a set of wheels and two PowerWalls so best of luck to you! | They are going to pull some legal mumbo jumbo and not honor anyones referals. I seriously doubt Tesla will give away roadsters. | 150 | 12 | 9,506 |
tqhcm8 | 205 | When is Tesla+SpaceX going to launch my photo into space per the Referral Program? The Tesla Referral Program that ended in February 2019 promised that every referral included the award to Launch Your Photo into Deep Space Orbit https: web.archive.org web 20190617075256 https: www.tesla.com support referral-program I haven t heard anything about this. It seems like Tesla just decided not to do it. Did I miss an email? Did this ever happen? Was there ever any news? My understanding is that Tesla made a legal commitment to this by naming this in the Referral Program and needs to follow through. | I m still waiting for a set of wheels and two PowerWalls so best of luck to you! | Yea I have this reward sitting in my account too and honestly at this point I d settle for a stupid hat or something. Pretty shitty of them to just ghost us after we helped them make sales. | 150 | 66 | 9,507 |
tqhcm8 | 205 | When is Tesla+SpaceX going to launch my photo into space per the Referral Program? The Tesla Referral Program that ended in February 2019 promised that every referral included the award to Launch Your Photo into Deep Space Orbit https: web.archive.org web 20190617075256 https: www.tesla.com support referral-program I haven t heard anything about this. It seems like Tesla just decided not to do it. Did I miss an email? Did this ever happen? Was there ever any news? My understanding is that Tesla made a legal commitment to this by naming this in the Referral Program and needs to follow through. | Just as soon as they start having those drawings for Model Y s and Roadsters. | They are going to pull some legal mumbo jumbo and not honor anyones referals. I seriously doubt Tesla will give away roadsters. | 44 | 12 | 9,508 |
tqp4dg | 38 | Model Y LR vs. Performance Hi everyone! Ordered my model y LR with 20 wheels tow hitch in red prior to the price increase (literally a day before!). Here s my dilema the more I think about it and do the math the model y performance is a 3k difference from my LR due to adding the 20 rims. My DD is September and I m wondering if I should just upgrade to the performance and get it faster. Here are some of my questions if y all can give me your opinion I would greatly appreciate it! • Is the drive much more rough in the P than the LR? I do live in an area with pot holes and can see this being an issue. •Does anyone have a family that uses the P as a family car? I don t have children yet but am planing to start a family soon. Is the drive smooth for kids? •Do the added bonuses justify the 3k update? •Range is there much of a difference when driving on a daily basis. •Is the height that significant? •Will the wait time change much? I am in Texas. Lastly I have driven sport cars for the past 10 years. I had a mustang for about 4 years and a challenger which I just sold for about 5 years. This is going to be more of a mom car so I m not sure which one to go with. So sorry for rambling! This is my first Tesla and just want to make sure I make the right choice. Thanks everyone! | Yes the drive is rougher in the P primarily due to the size of the wheels because of the large brakes in the P. Personally if this is a mom car as you say I recommend the LR model. In my experience the 19 are much more comfortable due to taller sidewalls (and even moreso with 18 winter wheels I put on). Why spend more get a harsher ride and risk wheel damage if this is a mom car ? Edit: could always spend $2k more for the acceleration boost on the LR model still save $1k and have a more comfortable ride. | Your range will be much more realistic on the performance. 20” vs. 21” are almost identical in real world range. Height and ride are very similar between them. I personally can t tell a difference. | 32 | 3 | 9,509 |
tvfkhe | 39 | r Place Update Hey all. If you re interested to keep the conversation going after this fun ending we are making an official channel in the main Tesla discord under the name Tesla-Place with voice and chat. https: www.discord.gg tesla Despite our many efforts and rebuilds we never gave up! Thank you to everyone involved. You know who you are and we couldn t [have done this](https: i.imgur.com VM6IxIE.jpg) beside NASA Spaceflight and SpaceX without you. Show yourselves! Thanks for the wild ride! | Guys us here at spacex will defend the tesla logo if you defend our starship. 🤟 | well now is the best time to do it | 31 | 2 | 9,510 |
tvfkhe | 39 | r Place Update Hey all. If you re interested to keep the conversation going after this fun ending we are making an official channel in the main Tesla discord under the name Tesla-Place with voice and chat. https: www.discord.gg tesla Despite our many efforts and rebuilds we never gave up! Thank you to everyone involved. You know who you are and we couldn t [have done this](https: i.imgur.com VM6IxIE.jpg) beside NASA Spaceflight and SpaceX without you. Show yourselves! Thanks for the wild ride! | Guys us here at spacex will defend the tesla logo if you defend our starship. 🤟 | It just opened a bunch of space. Let s make a small logo and defend it! | 31 | 2 | 9,511 |
tvfkhe | 39 | r Place Update Hey all. If you re interested to keep the conversation going after this fun ending we are making an official channel in the main Tesla discord under the name Tesla-Place with voice and chat. https: www.discord.gg tesla Despite our many efforts and rebuilds we never gave up! Thank you to everyone involved. You know who you are and we couldn t [have done this](https: i.imgur.com VM6IxIE.jpg) beside NASA Spaceflight and SpaceX without you. Show yourselves! Thanks for the wild ride! | Guys us here at spacex will defend the tesla logo if you defend our starship. 🤟 | running mine now. & #x200B if we decide to move to new coordinates will the bot automatically update? | 31 | 2 | 9,512 |
tvoh93 | 322 | Request: Disable window controls when in Dog Mode! I would think this would be a no brainer. My dog has learned how to roll the window down in my Model Y in order to stick her head out and smell. I came out of a store near a supercharger a few days ago and saw that she had rolled the window down about halfway while I had the car in Dog Mode. She is the type that absolutely would jump out of the window if something nearby got her stirred up. Does anyone else want this? | My dog actually escaped out of the car while I was out grocery shopping a couple weeks ago.. luckily she stayed close to the car and waited for me but that was scary. | What if you have child lock on all windows. Engage it before walking away from car. | 103 | 6 | 9,513 |
tvoh93 | 322 | Request: Disable window controls when in Dog Mode! I would think this would be a no brainer. My dog has learned how to roll the window down in my Model Y in order to stick her head out and smell. I came out of a store near a supercharger a few days ago and saw that she had rolled the window down about halfway while I had the car in Dog Mode. She is the type that absolutely would jump out of the window if something nearby got her stirred up. Does anyone else want this? | My dog actually escaped out of the car while I was out grocery shopping a couple weeks ago.. luckily she stayed close to the car and waited for me but that was scary. | Yes. Turn off window controls and turn on sentry mode if enabled. | 103 | 12 | 9,514 |
tvoh93 | 322 | Request: Disable window controls when in Dog Mode! I would think this would be a no brainer. My dog has learned how to roll the window down in my Model Y in order to stick her head out and smell. I came out of a store near a supercharger a few days ago and saw that she had rolled the window down about halfway while I had the car in Dog Mode. She is the type that absolutely would jump out of the window if something nearby got her stirred up. Does anyone else want this? | My dog actually escaped out of the car while I was out grocery shopping a couple weeks ago.. luckily she stayed close to the car and waited for me but that was scary. | I m not sure about the Model Y but in the X I can disable the window controls. Would this work for you as a stop-gap? | 103 | 13 | 9,515 |
twadae | 134 | Tesla Owners what are your likes and dislikes of your Tesla? What model would you recommend to someone looking to own one? Likes Dislikes of your Tesla. Features you like things that you don t. | Gas savings exceeded my car payment this [month.](https: imgur.com a Kb8GMe4) | Test drive rent one to find out | 128 | 2 | 9,516 |
twadae | 134 | Tesla Owners what are your likes and dislikes of your Tesla? What model would you recommend to someone looking to own one? Likes Dislikes of your Tesla. Features you like things that you don t. | Gas savings exceeded my car payment this [month.](https: imgur.com a Kb8GMe4) | Love the Model Y. It s been our go-to car for everything from groceries to cross-country camping trips. It s fun to drive and the infotainment is awesome. Not having to pump gas again is a game-changer. You leave the garage with a full tank (charge) every day. If we do need to supercharge the car is typically done charging by the time we step out to stretch our legs and use the bathroom. Or play a round of cuphead. I also had no build quality issues except for one seal by the front trunk that would occasionally let in a couple drips of water. It was addressed via mobile service at my house for (obviously) no charge. The only occasional issue is the random bug here or there such as the screen not coming on for a minute or so when starting a trip. The car still drives normally but you have no speedometer mapping etc. It s only happened two or three times in my two years of ownership and more of an annoyance than a real issue. | 128 | 6 | 9,517 |
twadae | 134 | Tesla Owners what are your likes and dislikes of your Tesla? What model would you recommend to someone looking to own one? Likes Dislikes of your Tesla. Features you like things that you don t. | Gas savings exceeded my car payment this [month.](https: imgur.com a Kb8GMe4) | Likes Super fun to drive stable will probably keep me safe if anything happens cool technology looks amazing lots of cargo space (and frunk) sentry mode autopilot is great for long drives Dislikes Random bugs - the spotify app rarely works properly my windows randomly will go down when I leave the car for no reason wipers start on full speed in the sunlight occasional phantom braking Edit: Forgot to answer the model part. I have the Model 3 long range. I recommend it for anyone with a long commute or who doesn t have charging at home. | 128 | 7 | 9,518 |
twt8gx | 249 | Teaser of a new feature of Model Y in the latest Tesla Berlin gigafactory video ? & #x200B https: preview.redd.it d1bsqfak8pr81.png?width=912& format=png& auto=webp& s=c398923c06c34144d3b6c1b8a40102137bd9243c & #x200B Just saw the latest Tesla ad on Youtube of the Berlin factory and something caught my eye at 0:08 the drone flies by a parked covered car and it seems like a wierd shot to make. Maybe it s some teasing of some kind ? Looking at it frame by frame it does look like the car has no side mirrors even if folded the cover would strech and it simply does not look like does it here (Photo reference) ditching conventionnal side mirrors and use camera maybe ? What do you think ? Edit : It makes sens reduce manufactuing cost lower drag coefficient so higher range and it is legal in the EU. | or it doesnt have doors on it for an engineering sample. hence the cover. | Tesla has been showing concepts without side mirrors for ages it would be interesting if they actually followed through in markets where it is allowed now. The big question is where they would show the cameras. Most cars with camera mirrors put additional screens in the doors or at the corners of the dashboard. The Cybertruck concept had a display screen in place of the center rear view mirror I guess that could also work for the side views if you stitched them together. | 82 | 17 | 9,519 |
twt8gx | 249 | Teaser of a new feature of Model Y in the latest Tesla Berlin gigafactory video ? & #x200B https: preview.redd.it d1bsqfak8pr81.png?width=912& format=png& auto=webp& s=c398923c06c34144d3b6c1b8a40102137bd9243c & #x200B Just saw the latest Tesla ad on Youtube of the Berlin factory and something caught my eye at 0:08 the drone flies by a parked covered car and it seems like a wierd shot to make. Maybe it s some teasing of some kind ? Looking at it frame by frame it does look like the car has no side mirrors even if folded the cover would strech and it simply does not look like does it here (Photo reference) ditching conventionnal side mirrors and use camera maybe ? What do you think ? Edit : It makes sens reduce manufactuing cost lower drag coefficient so higher range and it is legal in the EU. | or it doesnt have doors on it for an engineering sample. hence the cover. | I would agree on cost reduction but if the side mirrors image is on the center screen I really don t like this idea. That also means they should be ON continuously on the main screen? | 82 | 47 | 9,520 |
twt8gx | 249 | Teaser of a new feature of Model Y in the latest Tesla Berlin gigafactory video ? & #x200B https: preview.redd.it d1bsqfak8pr81.png?width=912& format=png& auto=webp& s=c398923c06c34144d3b6c1b8a40102137bd9243c & #x200B Just saw the latest Tesla ad on Youtube of the Berlin factory and something caught my eye at 0:08 the drone flies by a parked covered car and it seems like a wierd shot to make. Maybe it s some teasing of some kind ? Looking at it frame by frame it does look like the car has no side mirrors even if folded the cover would strech and it simply does not look like does it here (Photo reference) ditching conventionnal side mirrors and use camera maybe ? What do you think ? Edit : It makes sens reduce manufactuing cost lower drag coefficient so higher range and it is legal in the EU. | or it doesnt have doors on it for an engineering sample. hence the cover. | They probably forgot to install the mirrors | 82 | 49 | 9,521 |
twue5u | 58 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | All Cars - Release the CCS1 Adapter (North America) - Apple Music - On-Route Warmup to non-Tesla DC Chargers (North America) - Availability and power listings for non-Tesla DC chargers where possible (North America) - 90mph Autopilot for Vision Cars (we have 80mph highways in my area and there is an 85mph highway near Giga Texas) - Don t force Vision cars into using auto High-Beams when Autopilot is activated (radar cars don t do this) - A better way to report phantom breaking and incorrect interpretation of speed limits - Option for holding a more rigid following distance with AP. My car is always falling back to 5-6 car lengths before accelerating to get back to my set distance when following at high speed. This allows people to cut me off which is annoying. - Live local weather including a map radar layer with NOAA warning polygons and local weather radio stations (I drove through that Kentucky storm last year while it was weaker in Arkansas - still quite scary) - HDMI via USB-C video input to use the MCU screen as a monitor - Notification on car and phone when DC charging is slower than expected (Supercharger cabinet malfunctioning) - Better night time automatic wiper sensor tuning (it seems they are less sensitive except when I pass street lights compared to daytime) - Multiple Home Workplace locations for navigation (visiting friends and family or if your work has multiple offices) | Adding Work (or any extra location) in Charging stats. I have free charging at work but because there is only Home Supercharger and Other I can either count all others as free or paid. So my spending is not really reflected. | 59 | 7 | 9,522 |
twue5u | 58 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | All Cars - Release the CCS1 Adapter (North America) - Apple Music - On-Route Warmup to non-Tesla DC Chargers (North America) - Availability and power listings for non-Tesla DC chargers where possible (North America) - 90mph Autopilot for Vision Cars (we have 80mph highways in my area and there is an 85mph highway near Giga Texas) - Don t force Vision cars into using auto High-Beams when Autopilot is activated (radar cars don t do this) - A better way to report phantom breaking and incorrect interpretation of speed limits - Option for holding a more rigid following distance with AP. My car is always falling back to 5-6 car lengths before accelerating to get back to my set distance when following at high speed. This allows people to cut me off which is annoying. - Live local weather including a map radar layer with NOAA warning polygons and local weather radio stations (I drove through that Kentucky storm last year while it was weaker in Arkansas - still quite scary) - HDMI via USB-C video input to use the MCU screen as a monitor - Notification on car and phone when DC charging is slower than expected (Supercharger cabinet malfunctioning) - Better night time automatic wiper sensor tuning (it seems they are less sensitive except when I pass street lights compared to daytime) - Multiple Home Workplace locations for navigation (visiting friends and family or if your work has multiple offices) | * Taco dispenser. * Live weather radar overlay (Make it part of premium connectivity) * Alternate route options * Button to report navigation issues (When traveling southbound on I-75 the car thinks it has to get off at exit 460 instead of 451 to use Jasper FL charger causing you to spend more time on city streets than necessary) * More granular control over Autopilot FSD Options. I d like it to be assertive at intersections but chill with traffic build ups. * To build on the above maybe a Power user mode or something which gives people more control over things. I understand the whole User input is error angle of things but some times it isn t. I m envisioning something akin to EQ settings for the audio controls but for various settings and such. | 59 | 8 | 9,523 |
twue5u | 58 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | An official Tesla feature request website | Pandora. Live by Live Slacker or whatever is meh. | 48 | 2 | 9,524 |
tx2i24 | 1,561 | The case for the 600-mile range EV Elon has [repeatedly tweeted](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1498981268398161922?lang=en) that 400-miles of range is sufficient. I agree but disagree that Tesla s cars rated for 400 miles achieve that goal. 1. The only time most even care about range is highway driving road trips. Highway driving at a reasonably slow 70-75 mph achieves ~80% rated range in a *best case scenario*. 2. If there are *any* aggravating (but expected) factors such as headwinds colder weather higher speed rain etc. then that number can *easily* fall to 50% rated efficiency or below. 3. Since supercharging to 100% takes a *long* time and pulling into the charger below 5% is not likely given their spacing most people will only SC from ~10%-80% or approximately 70% of the car s battery capacity. 400 miles range X 80% 50% efficiency X 70% charge level = **160-225 miles of range.** True 400 miles highway range would require at least a 600-mile range rated battery. I know that we won t see this for the foreseeable future given the battery supply constraints (why sell one car with 600 miles range when you can sell two with 300). Just my $0.02 on the issue. I think that *a lot* of people won t switch to EVs until they have that kind of range. Will they need it 90% of the time? No but they ll want it. | > 3. Since supercharging to 100% takes a *long* time and pulling into the charger below 5% is not likely given their spacing most people will only SC from ~10%-80% or approximately 70% of the car s battery capacity. I ve posted that before and got skewered in comments. I made the comment that a 330 mile battery isn t really 330 miles. You re told not to charge to 100% and going below 10% is ass puckering so there s 60 miles gone and in winter expect to lost another 1 3 so figure about 200 miles of real range in the winter. Wow I got shit on for saying that. You re brave. I d be happy with true 350 miles maybe even true 300 miles all year round. | I definitely don t disagree. The mileage on most long trips.... suck. Maybe in the future we ll get some better efficiency on those trips but I often feel out I need to pull over to charge after 150 navigatable miles. I have a problem with super chargers charging me full price as if I m charging at the 250kw rate but I m not getting above 80kwh. Anywhere I can dispute that? Spokane is notorious for this. | 673 | 3 | 9,525 |
tx2i24 | 1,561 | The case for the 600-mile range EV Elon has [repeatedly tweeted](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1498981268398161922?lang=en) that 400-miles of range is sufficient. I agree but disagree that Tesla s cars rated for 400 miles achieve that goal. 1. The only time most even care about range is highway driving road trips. Highway driving at a reasonably slow 70-75 mph achieves ~80% rated range in a *best case scenario*. 2. If there are *any* aggravating (but expected) factors such as headwinds colder weather higher speed rain etc. then that number can *easily* fall to 50% rated efficiency or below. 3. Since supercharging to 100% takes a *long* time and pulling into the charger below 5% is not likely given their spacing most people will only SC from ~10%-80% or approximately 70% of the car s battery capacity. 400 miles range X 80% 50% efficiency X 70% charge level = **160-225 miles of range.** True 400 miles highway range would require at least a 600-mile range rated battery. I know that we won t see this for the foreseeable future given the battery supply constraints (why sell one car with 600 miles range when you can sell two with 300). Just my $0.02 on the issue. I think that *a lot* of people won t switch to EVs until they have that kind of range. Will they need it 90% of the time? No but they ll want it. | > 3. Since supercharging to 100% takes a *long* time and pulling into the charger below 5% is not likely given their spacing most people will only SC from ~10%-80% or approximately 70% of the car s battery capacity. I ve posted that before and got skewered in comments. I made the comment that a 330 mile battery isn t really 330 miles. You re told not to charge to 100% and going below 10% is ass puckering so there s 60 miles gone and in winter expect to lost another 1 3 so figure about 200 miles of real range in the winter. Wow I got shit on for saying that. You re brave. I d be happy with true 350 miles maybe even true 300 miles all year round. | > Will they need it 90% of the time? No but they ll want it. I think you summed up why this car isn t made. Buy a car for your 90% use case rent or borrow for the remainder. | 673 | 25 | 9,526 |
tx2i24 | 1,561 | The case for the 600-mile range EV Elon has [repeatedly tweeted](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1498981268398161922?lang=en) that 400-miles of range is sufficient. I agree but disagree that Tesla s cars rated for 400 miles achieve that goal. 1. The only time most even care about range is highway driving road trips. Highway driving at a reasonably slow 70-75 mph achieves ~80% rated range in a *best case scenario*. 2. If there are *any* aggravating (but expected) factors such as headwinds colder weather higher speed rain etc. then that number can *easily* fall to 50% rated efficiency or below. 3. Since supercharging to 100% takes a *long* time and pulling into the charger below 5% is not likely given their spacing most people will only SC from ~10%-80% or approximately 70% of the car s battery capacity. 400 miles range X 80% 50% efficiency X 70% charge level = **160-225 miles of range.** True 400 miles highway range would require at least a 600-mile range rated battery. I know that we won t see this for the foreseeable future given the battery supply constraints (why sell one car with 600 miles range when you can sell two with 300). Just my $0.02 on the issue. I think that *a lot* of people won t switch to EVs until they have that kind of range. Will they need it 90% of the time? No but they ll want it. | > 3. Since supercharging to 100% takes a *long* time and pulling into the charger below 5% is not likely given their spacing most people will only SC from ~10%-80% or approximately 70% of the car s battery capacity. I ve posted that before and got skewered in comments. I made the comment that a 330 mile battery isn t really 330 miles. You re told not to charge to 100% and going below 10% is ass puckering so there s 60 miles gone and in winter expect to lost another 1 3 so figure about 200 miles of real range in the winter. Wow I got shit on for saying that. You re brave. I d be happy with true 350 miles maybe even true 300 miles all year round. | TL DR Don t hold your breath for significantly longer range EVs it s a niche market. A 2021 Tesla S Long Range can drive 629 miles from Redding CA to Ocean Side CA in 10h11min 9.5h of which are driving the rest are 2 stops of 23 and 19 minutes each. You can play around with such scenarios using A Better Route Planner. More here: [https: kilowatt.page 600-mile-range-evs ](https: kilowatt.page 600-mile-range-evs ) | 673 | 29 | 9,527 |
ty0cby | 661 | Tesla has increased the price of the Long Range and Performance Model 3 in the US by $1 000 each. RWD Model 3 remains the same at $46 990 | Long Range starting price: $55 990 | Performance starting price: $62 990 & #x200B https: preview.redd.it xf3kt8c430s81.png?width=1919& format=png& auto=webp& s=25f76560e86bb42b386fdfedfac339a2653c654d | By next year a Model 3 LR will be $80 000 | LR went up $1500. | 338 | 26 | 9,528 |
ty0cby | 661 | Tesla has increased the price of the Long Range and Performance Model 3 in the US by $1 000 each. RWD Model 3 remains the same at $46 990 | Long Range starting price: $55 990 | Performance starting price: $62 990 & #x200B https: preview.redd.it xf3kt8c430s81.png?width=1919& format=png& auto=webp& s=25f76560e86bb42b386fdfedfac339a2653c654d | By next year a Model 3 LR will be $80 000 | So uhhh will the prices ever go down? If Tesla continues to have a backlog at these prices I don t see how they d lower the price even as supply constraints are eased. | 338 | 30 | 9,529 |
ty0cby | 661 | Tesla has increased the price of the Long Range and Performance Model 3 in the US by $1 000 each. RWD Model 3 remains the same at $46 990 | Long Range starting price: $55 990 | Performance starting price: $62 990 & #x200B https: preview.redd.it xf3kt8c430s81.png?width=1919& format=png& auto=webp& s=25f76560e86bb42b386fdfedfac339a2653c654d | By next year a Model 3 LR will be $80 000 | Again? | 338 | 34 | 9,530 |
tyrd86 | 198 | Tesla Giga Texas - Cyber Rodeo - Event Megathread # Tesla Gigafactory Texas - Cyber Rodeo Let s get right to it! Don t forget to lower your expectations when [you get hyped](https: twitter.com brandonee916 status 1512230585284145173?s=20& t=8fPvo2HTXbOjCs-eC7whAQ)! * [Livestream Link](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=fiwUE_2JhvY) \\- Start Time: 10pm ET 9pm CT 7pm PT 2am UTC * [**Live Chat**](https: discord.com channels 288215570996920320 961688922323320883) for the event in our Tesla Discord - See the main #Tesla channel * Comments will be sorted by New refreshing here will show you the latest. * [Live Comments](https: reddit-stream.com comments tyrd86 ) on this post (Reddit-Stream) - no refreshing required * Twitter [\\#CyberRodeo](https: twitter.com hashtag CyberRodeo?src=hashtag_click) \\- Get the latest from those currently at the event. * [Tesla.com Giga-Texas](https: www.tesla.com giga-texas) Please remember we re all human. Report rule breakers. Be kind and make sure to tip your bartender. | Franz and Elon have the stage presence of a pair of high school friends who finished their presentation the night before it was due and didn t rehearse once | Lot of cops there... | 195 | 2 | 9,531 |
tyrd86 | 198 | Tesla Giga Texas - Cyber Rodeo - Event Megathread # Tesla Gigafactory Texas - Cyber Rodeo Let s get right to it! Don t forget to lower your expectations when [you get hyped](https: twitter.com brandonee916 status 1512230585284145173?s=20& t=8fPvo2HTXbOjCs-eC7whAQ)! * [Livestream Link](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=fiwUE_2JhvY) \\- Start Time: 10pm ET 9pm CT 7pm PT 2am UTC * [**Live Chat**](https: discord.com channels 288215570996920320 961688922323320883) for the event in our Tesla Discord - See the main #Tesla channel * Comments will be sorted by New refreshing here will show you the latest. * [Live Comments](https: reddit-stream.com comments tyrd86 ) on this post (Reddit-Stream) - no refreshing required * Twitter [\\#CyberRodeo](https: twitter.com hashtag CyberRodeo?src=hashtag_click) \\- Get the latest from those currently at the event. * [Tesla.com Giga-Texas](https: www.tesla.com giga-texas) Please remember we re all human. Report rule breakers. Be kind and make sure to tip your bartender. | Franz and Elon have the stage presence of a pair of high school friends who finished their presentation the night before it was due and didn t rehearse once | If I can get some clarification that my New York June MYLR will have 4680 I d sleep so good | 195 | 2 | 9,532 |
tyrd86 | 198 | Tesla Giga Texas - Cyber Rodeo - Event Megathread # Tesla Gigafactory Texas - Cyber Rodeo Let s get right to it! Don t forget to lower your expectations when [you get hyped](https: twitter.com brandonee916 status 1512230585284145173?s=20& t=8fPvo2HTXbOjCs-eC7whAQ)! * [Livestream Link](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=fiwUE_2JhvY) \\- Start Time: 10pm ET 9pm CT 7pm PT 2am UTC * [**Live Chat**](https: discord.com channels 288215570996920320 961688922323320883) for the event in our Tesla Discord - See the main #Tesla channel * Comments will be sorted by New refreshing here will show you the latest. * [Live Comments](https: reddit-stream.com comments tyrd86 ) on this post (Reddit-Stream) - no refreshing required * Twitter [\\#CyberRodeo](https: twitter.com hashtag CyberRodeo?src=hashtag_click) \\- Get the latest from those currently at the event. * [Tesla.com Giga-Texas](https: www.tesla.com giga-texas) Please remember we re all human. Report rule breakers. Be kind and make sure to tip your bartender. | Franz and Elon have the stage presence of a pair of high school friends who finished their presentation the night before it was due and didn t rehearse once | flashing my lights via app in solidarity | 195 | 2 | 9,533 |
tz4nuu | 485 | I drove my 2021 MYLR at max speed. here s my take. So I had to be in Germany yesterday and I decided to test my MY in a way that most of you can t without breaking many rules. Also the autobahn I was in had little traffic. I have a made in China Model Y that I got last September. Getting to about 190 kph was easy. After this acceleration dropped significantly. It slowly crept to 220 kph (136mph). And boy was it uncomfortable! The car did not feel planted to the road at all. It was bouncy and the steering felt vague. I drove 220 for about two kilometers and then I went back to 170 as at this speed the car is much more comfortable. Other cars I ve driven at this speed had similar reactions but none as badly as the MY. I m not bothered by this at all nor is it important. I m not likely to do much autobahn driving again. I was just surprised that a heavy car that normally feels very planted and controllable can be so different at high speeds. Energy usage was very high. Driving like this will more than halve your range. Also it did not charge when decelerating probably because this would affect handling. I know this is an unimportant aspect of the car that many of us will never use but I thought it was worth bringing it up regardless. | Most car designs have a positive aerodynamic lift coefficient - the faster you go the more lift force you generate and it typically scales with v\\^2. At some speed cars with positive lift coefficient will float off the road (lose control). The first time I drove a BMW 3 series (about 1998) on the autobahn I encountered this - up to about 110 mph the car felt quite comfortable and planted. As I went faster the road feel started to drop rapidly and it started to feel more like driving on ice. The car communicated this quite well and I slowed down. The lift is a force counteracted by the weight of the car - a heavier car with the same shape as a lighter car will be able to maintain control in a straight line at a higher speed - not quite as true when turning. A model Y generates a reasonable amount of aerodynamic lift. If you modified the front to look more like a Porsche Cayenne you would lower the lift and could in principle go faster. The suspension enters into this as the apparent down force on the wheel drops when lift starts getting close to weight of the vehicle. But if a MY starts getting floaty both your inertia and kinetic energy are getting enormous and your control capability is plummeting. Time to slow down. | So it has bad aero at high speeds | 253 | 2 | 9,534 |
tz4nuu | 485 | I drove my 2021 MYLR at max speed. here s my take. So I had to be in Germany yesterday and I decided to test my MY in a way that most of you can t without breaking many rules. Also the autobahn I was in had little traffic. I have a made in China Model Y that I got last September. Getting to about 190 kph was easy. After this acceleration dropped significantly. It slowly crept to 220 kph (136mph). And boy was it uncomfortable! The car did not feel planted to the road at all. It was bouncy and the steering felt vague. I drove 220 for about two kilometers and then I went back to 170 as at this speed the car is much more comfortable. Other cars I ve driven at this speed had similar reactions but none as badly as the MY. I m not bothered by this at all nor is it important. I m not likely to do much autobahn driving again. I was just surprised that a heavy car that normally feels very planted and controllable can be so different at high speeds. Energy usage was very high. Driving like this will more than halve your range. Also it did not charge when decelerating probably because this would affect handling. I know this is an unimportant aspect of the car that many of us will never use but I thought it was worth bringing it up regardless. | Most car designs have a positive aerodynamic lift coefficient - the faster you go the more lift force you generate and it typically scales with v\\^2. At some speed cars with positive lift coefficient will float off the road (lose control). The first time I drove a BMW 3 series (about 1998) on the autobahn I encountered this - up to about 110 mph the car felt quite comfortable and planted. As I went faster the road feel started to drop rapidly and it started to feel more like driving on ice. The car communicated this quite well and I slowed down. The lift is a force counteracted by the weight of the car - a heavier car with the same shape as a lighter car will be able to maintain control in a straight line at a higher speed - not quite as true when turning. A model Y generates a reasonable amount of aerodynamic lift. If you modified the front to look more like a Porsche Cayenne you would lower the lift and could in principle go faster. The suspension enters into this as the apparent down force on the wheel drops when lift starts getting close to weight of the vehicle. But if a MY starts getting floaty both your inertia and kinetic energy are getting enormous and your control capability is plummeting. Time to slow down. | I have driven on closed tracks dragstrips and rallys with high end cars with my LR AWD+ Model 3. I can keep up with most of them for a bit but anything over 130mph eats battery like crazy! Having been in some of those other cars at those speeds I can say the Model 3 feels very grounded and shows that all of the weight is very low on the car but also shows that the non performance brakes do not work well at trying to stop all that weight and acceleration when going through twisty turns. | 253 | 2 | 9,535 |
tz4nuu | 485 | I drove my 2021 MYLR at max speed. here s my take. So I had to be in Germany yesterday and I decided to test my MY in a way that most of you can t without breaking many rules. Also the autobahn I was in had little traffic. I have a made in China Model Y that I got last September. Getting to about 190 kph was easy. After this acceleration dropped significantly. It slowly crept to 220 kph (136mph). And boy was it uncomfortable! The car did not feel planted to the road at all. It was bouncy and the steering felt vague. I drove 220 for about two kilometers and then I went back to 170 as at this speed the car is much more comfortable. Other cars I ve driven at this speed had similar reactions but none as badly as the MY. I m not bothered by this at all nor is it important. I m not likely to do much autobahn driving again. I was just surprised that a heavy car that normally feels very planted and controllable can be so different at high speeds. Energy usage was very high. Driving like this will more than halve your range. Also it did not charge when decelerating probably because this would affect handling. I know this is an unimportant aspect of the car that many of us will never use but I thought it was worth bringing it up regardless. | Most car designs have a positive aerodynamic lift coefficient - the faster you go the more lift force you generate and it typically scales with v\\^2. At some speed cars with positive lift coefficient will float off the road (lose control). The first time I drove a BMW 3 series (about 1998) on the autobahn I encountered this - up to about 110 mph the car felt quite comfortable and planted. As I went faster the road feel started to drop rapidly and it started to feel more like driving on ice. The car communicated this quite well and I slowed down. The lift is a force counteracted by the weight of the car - a heavier car with the same shape as a lighter car will be able to maintain control in a straight line at a higher speed - not quite as true when turning. A model Y generates a reasonable amount of aerodynamic lift. If you modified the front to look more like a Porsche Cayenne you would lower the lift and could in principle go faster. The suspension enters into this as the apparent down force on the wheel drops when lift starts getting close to weight of the vehicle. But if a MY starts getting floaty both your inertia and kinetic energy are getting enormous and your control capability is plummeting. Time to slow down. | > Also it did not charge when decelerating probably because this would affect handling. Are you saying you took your foot entirely off of the accelerator at 136mph? That seems like unnecessarily excessive deceleration even without regen braking. | 253 | 2 | 9,536 |
tz7kfb | 80 | Who got a Texas MY last night? So who got one? | It was Texas cars for Texas employees . Got a ride in one last night. Build quality seemed exceptional. | My guess is all employees because the Standard dual motor configuration isn t even available to buy yet. If I had to guess employees bought them got them as a rebate bonus whatever internally purchased. | 37 | 10 | 9,537 |
u1i7uq | 216 | Did you or would you pay for Premium Connectivity? Are you subscribed to it? If so why and if not why? | I did the annual subscription. I like not needing my phone to stream movies listen to Spotify etc. | No I can use my hotspot for everything important | 329 | 10 | 9,538 |
u1i7uq | 216 | Did you or would you pay for Premium Connectivity? Are you subscribed to it? If so why and if not why? | $10 is cheaper than a hotspot and the hassles of turning it on connecting etc. for me. And I d rather not look at my phone while driving to change songs | No I can use my hotspot for everything important | 225 | 10 | 9,539 |
u1i7uq | 216 | Did you or would you pay for Premium Connectivity? Are you subscribed to it? If so why and if not why? | Yes since day 1 satellite maps with traffic overlay are a must have. Sentry mode video Spotify tune in is nice to have as well. Plus YouTube Netflix for super charging stops. | I don t just because I have more than 1 Tesla and it s per vehicle which is stupid IMO. | 125 | 2 | 9,540 |
u2beb4 | 148 | So how bad is Tesla Solar? I ve heard dozens of horror stories on this sub but how frequent are botch jobs in reality? Looking at solar battery storage for our new home in Texas and the Tesla panels are very competitively priced options other than Tesla seem to have limited options for powerwall-like batteries and the whole system integration into the Tesla app with my Model 3 seems very appealing. & nbsp I ve heard a ton of horror stories on this subreddit about Tesla Solar but how much worse are they than other solar companies? Do we just hear more negative things about Tesla due to following this subreddit but not actively keeping up with other solar companies? Is a significant part of it that unhappy customers complain but happy customers are silent? Or is Tesla Solar truly awful to deal with and worse than the competition? & nbsp Any advice here is appreciated! | I have Tesla Solar and have had it for a few years now. Installed originally back in 2019 and it s been great. I ve heard a lot of horror stories but didn t experience any myself. Ordered online they came out did inspection took pictures designed system installed it within 4-5 weeks. Waiting about a month for my cities utilities people to inspect and allow it to be turned on and it s been working ever since. I did do a 10 year loan w Sunlight financial and recently sold my house and what they don t tell you is that if you owe less than $15k on the loan they won t allow you to transfer it to the next owner you ll have to pay it off so that was an annoying surprise but that wasn t Tesla per se. Overall I was happy and will be getting Tesla solar on my next house as well. | Tesla solar installation is backed up. Personally i decided to cancel and went with Sunpower... their app is great... With the wish washyness of the current administration didnt want to gamble... | 183 | 2 | 9,541 |
u2beb4 | 148 | So how bad is Tesla Solar? I ve heard dozens of horror stories on this sub but how frequent are botch jobs in reality? Looking at solar battery storage for our new home in Texas and the Tesla panels are very competitively priced options other than Tesla seem to have limited options for powerwall-like batteries and the whole system integration into the Tesla app with my Model 3 seems very appealing. & nbsp I ve heard a ton of horror stories on this subreddit about Tesla Solar but how much worse are they than other solar companies? Do we just hear more negative things about Tesla due to following this subreddit but not actively keeping up with other solar companies? Is a significant part of it that unhappy customers complain but happy customers are silent? Or is Tesla Solar truly awful to deal with and worse than the competition? & nbsp Any advice here is appreciated! | No issues - design install and operation since 2018 have been great. | Tesla solar installation is backed up. Personally i decided to cancel and went with Sunpower... their app is great... With the wish washyness of the current administration didnt want to gamble... | 114 | 2 | 9,542 |
u2beb4 | 148 | So how bad is Tesla Solar? I ve heard dozens of horror stories on this sub but how frequent are botch jobs in reality? Looking at solar battery storage for our new home in Texas and the Tesla panels are very competitively priced options other than Tesla seem to have limited options for powerwall-like batteries and the whole system integration into the Tesla app with my Model 3 seems very appealing. & nbsp I ve heard a ton of horror stories on this subreddit about Tesla Solar but how much worse are they than other solar companies? Do we just hear more negative things about Tesla due to following this subreddit but not actively keeping up with other solar companies? Is a significant part of it that unhappy customers complain but happy customers are silent? Or is Tesla Solar truly awful to deal with and worse than the competition? & nbsp Any advice here is appreciated! | No issues - design install and operation since 2018 have been great. | Installed ~9kw solar roof from Tesla dec 2020. It s been great. Not a single issue so far knock on wood. | 114 | 9 | 9,543 |
u2ei17 | 253 | FSD 10.11.2 finally going out to (hopefully) everyone else already in the beta program. Check your car for updates. | Got it. Not any better for me in the DC area. Doesn t yet seem worse so I guess that s something. Still lots of unnecessary braking. Slowing down excessively when there are intersections close together despite having all green lights. Unnecessary lane changes. And my favorite thing that will never not baffle me changing lanes away from the lane needed for an imminent turn. | Just got it! 2020 M3LR. Been stuck at 10.2.2… | 70 | 3 | 9,544 |
u2ei17 | 253 | FSD 10.11.2 finally going out to (hopefully) everyone else already in the beta program. Check your car for updates. | Got it. Not any better for me in the DC area. Doesn t yet seem worse so I guess that s something. Still lots of unnecessary braking. Slowing down excessively when there are intersections close together despite having all green lights. Unnecessary lane changes. And my favorite thing that will never not baffle me changing lanes away from the lane needed for an imminent turn. | WA checking in. Just received it a few hours ago. Will give it a spin in the morning commute tomorrow. | 70 | 3 | 9,545 |
u2ei17 | 253 | FSD 10.11.2 finally going out to (hopefully) everyone else already in the beta program. Check your car for updates. | Got it. Not any better for me in the DC area. Doesn t yet seem worse so I guess that s something. Still lots of unnecessary braking. Slowing down excessively when there are intersections close together despite having all green lights. Unnecessary lane changes. And my favorite thing that will never not baffle me changing lanes away from the lane needed for an imminent turn. | Yup. TeslaFi was showing 950 some cars the update got pushed too. That s pretty much the rest of the fleet stick on 10.10.2. Feels much smoother. I hated 10.10.2. | 70 | 6 | 9,546 |
u2zlqu | 379 | I just drove half-way across the US in my Tesla. Here are some takeaways. ## Background I just drove from roughly Denver to the Adirondack region in upstate New York over four days with a stop over in Chicago to meet up with my parents. I have a new 2022 Model Y (not the brand new battery though) that had about 300 miles on it before this trip and hadn t even seen a charger outside of the one I had installed at home. I slept in the car for a night on the way visited some super chargers and non-super chargers and mostly let the car drive itself. Here are a few observations. AMA. ## Autopilot Autopilot is GREAT! I paid for FSD but it still isn t unlocked for me (looking into that). Regardless for most of this trip I wouldn t be able to tell the difference. The car just drove itself on the highway and even off-highway through the winding roads in upstate NY for the most part. I had to (or felt I had to) take over occasionally but I was able to stay on the road longer and arrived less stressed than normal because I just didn t need to do much at all with the car. It was great! Honestly if I knew that going into it I probably would have saved the money and not gotten FSD especially considering I don t have access to it yet although I assume that will change. I guess I should update this statement once I have access to it and have used it a bit I m sure it s life changing. ## Sleeping The car is pretty comfortable just by itself. I know there are some solutions out there for mattresses to make it more comfortable (TesMat for one) but I was able to crash in a rest area for a few hours no problem with just a sleeping bag. I had a camping mat too but it turns out some holes had developed and it wouldn t hold air. Alas. The car only used 2% of battery for 5 hours of sleeping so that s pretty impressive. I had done an experiment before my drive and found that the car was mostly using about half a percent per hour in camp mode but that s probably going to depend on the temperature differential between your car and the outside air whether you re streaming media etc. I just kept the car at 65-66 F and slept so nothing much running except the air. It was in the high 30s to 40s F outside during that time. I would recommend bringing an eye mask if you have to sleep in a rest area. They re usually pretty well lit and the car is so open feeling it would be pretty bright in there without one. ## Charging Super chargers are great! I have a Tesla charger installed on its own 40 A circuit at my house but those super chargers are an order of magnitude faster! I was pretty blown away. I did encounter one super charger in the rain (not sure if that s related) that seemed to be bugging out and caused my car to do some weird things until I reset it (press both steering wheel buttons for a bit) twice! That one kept connecting and disconnecting according to the car and my steering wheel buttons and touch screen became less responsive. Also the blind spot cameras stopped showing up (black screen instead) the radio and streaming services went offline...it was weird! It was the only time I saw any weirdness but it was definitely weird. I would recommend that anyone traveling use the PlugShare app if they are in an area without many super chargers. The Adirondacks don t really have any super chargers but there are plenty of other options in the area that show up on PlugShare. It s made keeping the car charged up out here a lot easier and also gave me more confidence in driving into areas that are further away from the Tesla-navigation-preferred options. Charging on a regular 120 V house outlet is slooooow but it does get the job done. I ve done it a couple of times now on this trip and it s fine if you know you can leave the car for long periods between uses but not ideal if you are trying to charge up to cover some distance. Depending on the house I was plugged into I saw 1 kWh and 4-5 mi h peak charge rate. I get 8 kWh from my installed home charger and waaaaay more from super chargers. ## Pace One concern of mine was how far behind my parents I would be between Chicago and upstate NY. They were driving in a Toyota SUV regular gas engine so I figured they would have faster refueling stops and likely get an hour or so ahead of me each day. They ended up getting to our hotel on their first night my third about a half hour before me and arrived at our final destination ten minutes before me. I took my time at charging stations to give myself a bit of buffer so I d say it was pretty darn comparable! I typically drove about 2-3 hours between charging stations which seems comparable to what I would do in my Subaru with gas before the Tesla. The stops were longer for charging than gas but I honestly really appreciated the slower pace of the stops. I had more time to get out walk around stretch eat something use the facilities etc. If I were traveling with my dogs I m sure they would love the longer breaks and more walking too. Really no complaints there. ## Navigation I will say that the navigation sometimes seems a little wonky. It liked to plan my route from the beginning and then keep it static even if I took extra time and could make it to a later charger or something. It also doesn t really know when you want to stop and for instance keep the car in camp mode for a few hours so you need to consider that. Occasionally I had to just clear the nav and re-enter my destination to get it to recalculate stops for me. Not a big deal but something to be aware of. ## Overall I really love this thing for road trips now. It s so much easier to drive a car that mostly drives itself! The longer stops are actually kind of great and I m usually able to make it 2-3 hours between stops which is about when I need to go to the bathroom anyway so that works out. I m sure the future will see more and more charging stations set up all over the place but as-is the regular Tesla navigation paired with PlugShare seems to get the job done with no concern. ## Edit: a couple of issues OK so after writing this I thought about the trip some more and there were a few issues I had besides the wonky charging station and the car acting funny after that. They all had to do with autopilot FSD (not sure if it s FSD but somebody in the comments said it sounded like standard FSD). The car seems to really not want to drift out of the lane for construction even when cones are set up to block all but half a lane so you have to drive on the shoulder some. This happened a few times and I just had to take manual control with the car yelling at me about lane departures until it gave up. Kind of annoying. The other one and this one I think is actually a safety issue is that the autopilot sometimes just gets into its mind that the speed limit is like 30 mph less than the posted limit. It hit the brakes on me pretty hard a few times with no obstruction or traffic in front. I just took control and sped back up but if I was in traffic with somebody right behind me when that happened? Could have been bad. For the crazy number of hours I drove it didn t happen very much but it definitely freaked me out the few times it did. When letting the car change lanes for you when it hasn t decided to do so you can hold down on the turn signal until you re in the new lane or at least mostly there. The issue here was that if you released the turn signal a *little bit* too early the car would swerve back into the original lane. This happened quite a bit until I got the hang of it. I understand the reasoning behind this---interpret the driver stopping the signal as an abort and get the heck out of that lane change---but the behavior is probably alarming to others on the road and definitely to me when I wasn t expecting it (which was always). The only other thing was minor and didn t affect driving at all just the UI. The lane change graphic would pop up and disappear rapidly sometimes over and over again until I got close enough to a car in the slow lane that it made up its mind that I should actually pass. This one just seems like a filtering issue: don t ask if I want to change lanes until you re pretty sure I should but it was a bit of a distraction. So yeah not perfect but still great overall and I have to assume it will only get better as software updates come through. I still stand by my previous statement. I love this car now for road trips. | Yeah IMO it s a great road trip car due to AP and plentiful superchargers. | Thanks for sharing! | 94 | 13 | 9,547 |
u2zlqu | 379 | I just drove half-way across the US in my Tesla. Here are some takeaways. ## Background I just drove from roughly Denver to the Adirondack region in upstate New York over four days with a stop over in Chicago to meet up with my parents. I have a new 2022 Model Y (not the brand new battery though) that had about 300 miles on it before this trip and hadn t even seen a charger outside of the one I had installed at home. I slept in the car for a night on the way visited some super chargers and non-super chargers and mostly let the car drive itself. Here are a few observations. AMA. ## Autopilot Autopilot is GREAT! I paid for FSD but it still isn t unlocked for me (looking into that). Regardless for most of this trip I wouldn t be able to tell the difference. The car just drove itself on the highway and even off-highway through the winding roads in upstate NY for the most part. I had to (or felt I had to) take over occasionally but I was able to stay on the road longer and arrived less stressed than normal because I just didn t need to do much at all with the car. It was great! Honestly if I knew that going into it I probably would have saved the money and not gotten FSD especially considering I don t have access to it yet although I assume that will change. I guess I should update this statement once I have access to it and have used it a bit I m sure it s life changing. ## Sleeping The car is pretty comfortable just by itself. I know there are some solutions out there for mattresses to make it more comfortable (TesMat for one) but I was able to crash in a rest area for a few hours no problem with just a sleeping bag. I had a camping mat too but it turns out some holes had developed and it wouldn t hold air. Alas. The car only used 2% of battery for 5 hours of sleeping so that s pretty impressive. I had done an experiment before my drive and found that the car was mostly using about half a percent per hour in camp mode but that s probably going to depend on the temperature differential between your car and the outside air whether you re streaming media etc. I just kept the car at 65-66 F and slept so nothing much running except the air. It was in the high 30s to 40s F outside during that time. I would recommend bringing an eye mask if you have to sleep in a rest area. They re usually pretty well lit and the car is so open feeling it would be pretty bright in there without one. ## Charging Super chargers are great! I have a Tesla charger installed on its own 40 A circuit at my house but those super chargers are an order of magnitude faster! I was pretty blown away. I did encounter one super charger in the rain (not sure if that s related) that seemed to be bugging out and caused my car to do some weird things until I reset it (press both steering wheel buttons for a bit) twice! That one kept connecting and disconnecting according to the car and my steering wheel buttons and touch screen became less responsive. Also the blind spot cameras stopped showing up (black screen instead) the radio and streaming services went offline...it was weird! It was the only time I saw any weirdness but it was definitely weird. I would recommend that anyone traveling use the PlugShare app if they are in an area without many super chargers. The Adirondacks don t really have any super chargers but there are plenty of other options in the area that show up on PlugShare. It s made keeping the car charged up out here a lot easier and also gave me more confidence in driving into areas that are further away from the Tesla-navigation-preferred options. Charging on a regular 120 V house outlet is slooooow but it does get the job done. I ve done it a couple of times now on this trip and it s fine if you know you can leave the car for long periods between uses but not ideal if you are trying to charge up to cover some distance. Depending on the house I was plugged into I saw 1 kWh and 4-5 mi h peak charge rate. I get 8 kWh from my installed home charger and waaaaay more from super chargers. ## Pace One concern of mine was how far behind my parents I would be between Chicago and upstate NY. They were driving in a Toyota SUV regular gas engine so I figured they would have faster refueling stops and likely get an hour or so ahead of me each day. They ended up getting to our hotel on their first night my third about a half hour before me and arrived at our final destination ten minutes before me. I took my time at charging stations to give myself a bit of buffer so I d say it was pretty darn comparable! I typically drove about 2-3 hours between charging stations which seems comparable to what I would do in my Subaru with gas before the Tesla. The stops were longer for charging than gas but I honestly really appreciated the slower pace of the stops. I had more time to get out walk around stretch eat something use the facilities etc. If I were traveling with my dogs I m sure they would love the longer breaks and more walking too. Really no complaints there. ## Navigation I will say that the navigation sometimes seems a little wonky. It liked to plan my route from the beginning and then keep it static even if I took extra time and could make it to a later charger or something. It also doesn t really know when you want to stop and for instance keep the car in camp mode for a few hours so you need to consider that. Occasionally I had to just clear the nav and re-enter my destination to get it to recalculate stops for me. Not a big deal but something to be aware of. ## Overall I really love this thing for road trips now. It s so much easier to drive a car that mostly drives itself! The longer stops are actually kind of great and I m usually able to make it 2-3 hours between stops which is about when I need to go to the bathroom anyway so that works out. I m sure the future will see more and more charging stations set up all over the place but as-is the regular Tesla navigation paired with PlugShare seems to get the job done with no concern. ## Edit: a couple of issues OK so after writing this I thought about the trip some more and there were a few issues I had besides the wonky charging station and the car acting funny after that. They all had to do with autopilot FSD (not sure if it s FSD but somebody in the comments said it sounded like standard FSD). The car seems to really not want to drift out of the lane for construction even when cones are set up to block all but half a lane so you have to drive on the shoulder some. This happened a few times and I just had to take manual control with the car yelling at me about lane departures until it gave up. Kind of annoying. The other one and this one I think is actually a safety issue is that the autopilot sometimes just gets into its mind that the speed limit is like 30 mph less than the posted limit. It hit the brakes on me pretty hard a few times with no obstruction or traffic in front. I just took control and sped back up but if I was in traffic with somebody right behind me when that happened? Could have been bad. For the crazy number of hours I drove it didn t happen very much but it definitely freaked me out the few times it did. When letting the car change lanes for you when it hasn t decided to do so you can hold down on the turn signal until you re in the new lane or at least mostly there. The issue here was that if you released the turn signal a *little bit* too early the car would swerve back into the original lane. This happened quite a bit until I got the hang of it. I understand the reasoning behind this---interpret the driver stopping the signal as an abort and get the heck out of that lane change---but the behavior is probably alarming to others on the road and definitely to me when I wasn t expecting it (which was always). The only other thing was minor and didn t affect driving at all just the UI. The lane change graphic would pop up and disappear rapidly sometimes over and over again until I got close enough to a car in the slow lane that it made up its mind that I should actually pass. This one just seems like a filtering issue: don t ask if I want to change lanes until you re pretty sure I should but it was a bit of a distraction. So yeah not perfect but still great overall and I have to assume it will only get better as software updates come through. I still stand by my previous statement. I love this car now for road trips. | > > the autopilot sometimes just gets into its mind that the speed limit is like 30 mph less than the posted limit. It hit the brakes on me pretty hard a few times with no obstruction or traffic in front. Welcome to the Phantom Braking club help yourself to some refreshments | I ve found that I need to really give the steering a good jiggle when on AP and it s checking to make sure I m awake about every 3-5 minutes which is kind of annoying. How do you manage this with such a long drive? | 75 | 2 | 9,548 |
u2zlqu | 379 | I just drove half-way across the US in my Tesla. Here are some takeaways. ## Background I just drove from roughly Denver to the Adirondack region in upstate New York over four days with a stop over in Chicago to meet up with my parents. I have a new 2022 Model Y (not the brand new battery though) that had about 300 miles on it before this trip and hadn t even seen a charger outside of the one I had installed at home. I slept in the car for a night on the way visited some super chargers and non-super chargers and mostly let the car drive itself. Here are a few observations. AMA. ## Autopilot Autopilot is GREAT! I paid for FSD but it still isn t unlocked for me (looking into that). Regardless for most of this trip I wouldn t be able to tell the difference. The car just drove itself on the highway and even off-highway through the winding roads in upstate NY for the most part. I had to (or felt I had to) take over occasionally but I was able to stay on the road longer and arrived less stressed than normal because I just didn t need to do much at all with the car. It was great! Honestly if I knew that going into it I probably would have saved the money and not gotten FSD especially considering I don t have access to it yet although I assume that will change. I guess I should update this statement once I have access to it and have used it a bit I m sure it s life changing. ## Sleeping The car is pretty comfortable just by itself. I know there are some solutions out there for mattresses to make it more comfortable (TesMat for one) but I was able to crash in a rest area for a few hours no problem with just a sleeping bag. I had a camping mat too but it turns out some holes had developed and it wouldn t hold air. Alas. The car only used 2% of battery for 5 hours of sleeping so that s pretty impressive. I had done an experiment before my drive and found that the car was mostly using about half a percent per hour in camp mode but that s probably going to depend on the temperature differential between your car and the outside air whether you re streaming media etc. I just kept the car at 65-66 F and slept so nothing much running except the air. It was in the high 30s to 40s F outside during that time. I would recommend bringing an eye mask if you have to sleep in a rest area. They re usually pretty well lit and the car is so open feeling it would be pretty bright in there without one. ## Charging Super chargers are great! I have a Tesla charger installed on its own 40 A circuit at my house but those super chargers are an order of magnitude faster! I was pretty blown away. I did encounter one super charger in the rain (not sure if that s related) that seemed to be bugging out and caused my car to do some weird things until I reset it (press both steering wheel buttons for a bit) twice! That one kept connecting and disconnecting according to the car and my steering wheel buttons and touch screen became less responsive. Also the blind spot cameras stopped showing up (black screen instead) the radio and streaming services went offline...it was weird! It was the only time I saw any weirdness but it was definitely weird. I would recommend that anyone traveling use the PlugShare app if they are in an area without many super chargers. The Adirondacks don t really have any super chargers but there are plenty of other options in the area that show up on PlugShare. It s made keeping the car charged up out here a lot easier and also gave me more confidence in driving into areas that are further away from the Tesla-navigation-preferred options. Charging on a regular 120 V house outlet is slooooow but it does get the job done. I ve done it a couple of times now on this trip and it s fine if you know you can leave the car for long periods between uses but not ideal if you are trying to charge up to cover some distance. Depending on the house I was plugged into I saw 1 kWh and 4-5 mi h peak charge rate. I get 8 kWh from my installed home charger and waaaaay more from super chargers. ## Pace One concern of mine was how far behind my parents I would be between Chicago and upstate NY. They were driving in a Toyota SUV regular gas engine so I figured they would have faster refueling stops and likely get an hour or so ahead of me each day. They ended up getting to our hotel on their first night my third about a half hour before me and arrived at our final destination ten minutes before me. I took my time at charging stations to give myself a bit of buffer so I d say it was pretty darn comparable! I typically drove about 2-3 hours between charging stations which seems comparable to what I would do in my Subaru with gas before the Tesla. The stops were longer for charging than gas but I honestly really appreciated the slower pace of the stops. I had more time to get out walk around stretch eat something use the facilities etc. If I were traveling with my dogs I m sure they would love the longer breaks and more walking too. Really no complaints there. ## Navigation I will say that the navigation sometimes seems a little wonky. It liked to plan my route from the beginning and then keep it static even if I took extra time and could make it to a later charger or something. It also doesn t really know when you want to stop and for instance keep the car in camp mode for a few hours so you need to consider that. Occasionally I had to just clear the nav and re-enter my destination to get it to recalculate stops for me. Not a big deal but something to be aware of. ## Overall I really love this thing for road trips now. It s so much easier to drive a car that mostly drives itself! The longer stops are actually kind of great and I m usually able to make it 2-3 hours between stops which is about when I need to go to the bathroom anyway so that works out. I m sure the future will see more and more charging stations set up all over the place but as-is the regular Tesla navigation paired with PlugShare seems to get the job done with no concern. ## Edit: a couple of issues OK so after writing this I thought about the trip some more and there were a few issues I had besides the wonky charging station and the car acting funny after that. They all had to do with autopilot FSD (not sure if it s FSD but somebody in the comments said it sounded like standard FSD). The car seems to really not want to drift out of the lane for construction even when cones are set up to block all but half a lane so you have to drive on the shoulder some. This happened a few times and I just had to take manual control with the car yelling at me about lane departures until it gave up. Kind of annoying. The other one and this one I think is actually a safety issue is that the autopilot sometimes just gets into its mind that the speed limit is like 30 mph less than the posted limit. It hit the brakes on me pretty hard a few times with no obstruction or traffic in front. I just took control and sped back up but if I was in traffic with somebody right behind me when that happened? Could have been bad. For the crazy number of hours I drove it didn t happen very much but it definitely freaked me out the few times it did. When letting the car change lanes for you when it hasn t decided to do so you can hold down on the turn signal until you re in the new lane or at least mostly there. The issue here was that if you released the turn signal a *little bit* too early the car would swerve back into the original lane. This happened quite a bit until I got the hang of it. I understand the reasoning behind this---interpret the driver stopping the signal as an abort and get the heck out of that lane change---but the behavior is probably alarming to others on the road and definitely to me when I wasn t expecting it (which was always). The only other thing was minor and didn t affect driving at all just the UI. The lane change graphic would pop up and disappear rapidly sometimes over and over again until I got close enough to a car in the slow lane that it made up its mind that I should actually pass. This one just seems like a filtering issue: don t ask if I want to change lanes until you re pretty sure I should but it was a bit of a distraction. So yeah not perfect but still great overall and I have to assume it will only get better as software updates come through. I still stand by my previous statement. I love this car now for road trips. | > > the autopilot sometimes just gets into its mind that the speed limit is like 30 mph less than the posted limit. It hit the brakes on me pretty hard a few times with no obstruction or traffic in front. Welcome to the Phantom Braking club help yourself to some refreshments | Great post! I have had similar experiences cross country. | 75 | 3 | 9,549 |
u3qkgg | 88 | Car Wash Mode No Longer Requires to be in Park to Activate Discovered this when going through today - assuming it was added during the last update | Is it just me or is putting the car in neutral more difficult than is needs to be? | Nice find thanks! | 30 | 3 | 9,550 |
u3ur1y | 53 | Tesla Tech trainee Internship program. Hi I need more anecdotal information about this position. I was offered a phone interview for it and was told it was temporary but could lead to a more permanent position with Tesla service and the START program if I need additional training. I m currently in the army as a wheeled vehicle mechanic I ve always worked with cars and I m very hands on. I guess right now I m just confused on what to think of the opportunity the pay is not that great but then again it s Tesla. Any kind of advice regarding the company position start program or the interview is welcome. EDIT: Thanks for all the responses!!! | It will definitely secure your future. Since everything is going electric having Tesla under your resume will basically guarantee you a career in the EV field. | Ordering your Tesla? Have an issue with yours? Click [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments t4isha technical_support_service_support_vehicle ) for info see our stickied support thread r TeslaLounge [Discord](https: discord.gg tesla) or official [Tesla Support](https: www.tesla.com support) or use the Service section in the Tesla app. Help the [Mods](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki rules#wiki_special_note_from_the_moderators) by being respectful and by reporting posts + comments which break the [Rules](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki rules). Thanks for being awesome! *I am a bot and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit]( message compose ?to= r teslamotors) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 43 | 3 | 9,551 |
u3ur1y | 53 | Tesla Tech trainee Internship program. Hi I need more anecdotal information about this position. I was offered a phone interview for it and was told it was temporary but could lead to a more permanent position with Tesla service and the START program if I need additional training. I m currently in the army as a wheeled vehicle mechanic I ve always worked with cars and I m very hands on. I guess right now I m just confused on what to think of the opportunity the pay is not that great but then again it s Tesla. Any kind of advice regarding the company position start program or the interview is welcome. EDIT: Thanks for all the responses!!! | It will definitely secure your future. Since everything is going electric having Tesla under your resume will basically guarantee you a career in the EV field. | I don t have any experience with anything going to college in the fall but if I were you I would take position it s a great way to start ranking up at the company | 43 | 3 | 9,552 |
u3ur1y | 53 | Tesla Tech trainee Internship program. Hi I need more anecdotal information about this position. I was offered a phone interview for it and was told it was temporary but could lead to a more permanent position with Tesla service and the START program if I need additional training. I m currently in the army as a wheeled vehicle mechanic I ve always worked with cars and I m very hands on. I guess right now I m just confused on what to think of the opportunity the pay is not that great but then again it s Tesla. Any kind of advice regarding the company position start program or the interview is welcome. EDIT: Thanks for all the responses!!! | It will definitely secure your future. Since everything is going electric having Tesla under your resume will basically guarantee you a career in the EV field. | I d do it in a heartbeat if it was offered to me. I ve applied to over 20 positions at tesla phone interview twice and no job. Its very competitive. | 43 | 12 | 9,553 |
u45nbn | 96 | Custom hardware and software proposal by wk057 I noticed that u wk057 is now seeking feedback about developing a fully custom mostly open-source drop-in hardware and software replacement for the Tesla infotainment system in pre-Plaid S X vehicles. I think this is an *excellent* proposal. For now this is aimed at MCU1 vehicles. It has the potential to offer many long desired features as described in his recent tweets including some stuff that even MCU2 and MCU3 do not offer. It s an upgrade I would pay for. Here s a link to his Twitter thread and poll: https: twitter.com wk057 status 1514256727490838529 Notes copied from his Twitter thread include: * No more official Tesla OTAs but new OTAs for the new system for sure * Lots of tweakability * Probably Android Based * Diag Power user info * USB peripheral support (cameras etc) * Customizations to Autopilot (probably no FSD support for a while) * Since Android: Google Maps nav or Waze or whatever maps app you like * WiFi Hotspot (using non-Tesla SIM) * Skins and other customizations * Likely keep Tesla app access * Hardware: re-use the touchscreen itself the metal chassis and the audio amplifier. * HDMI input Chromecast-like functionality * Target would be a price point at or below the MCU2 upgrade cost. Self-install possible. | Pipe dream. Software engineer too expensive and this will be never be good and maintained properly | interesting af | 43 | 4 | 9,554 |
u45nbn | 96 | Custom hardware and software proposal by wk057 I noticed that u wk057 is now seeking feedback about developing a fully custom mostly open-source drop-in hardware and software replacement for the Tesla infotainment system in pre-Plaid S X vehicles. I think this is an *excellent* proposal. For now this is aimed at MCU1 vehicles. It has the potential to offer many long desired features as described in his recent tweets including some stuff that even MCU2 and MCU3 do not offer. It s an upgrade I would pay for. Here s a link to his Twitter thread and poll: https: twitter.com wk057 status 1514256727490838529 Notes copied from his Twitter thread include: * No more official Tesla OTAs but new OTAs for the new system for sure * Lots of tweakability * Probably Android Based * Diag Power user info * USB peripheral support (cameras etc) * Customizations to Autopilot (probably no FSD support for a while) * Since Android: Google Maps nav or Waze or whatever maps app you like * WiFi Hotspot (using non-Tesla SIM) * Skins and other customizations * Likely keep Tesla app access * Hardware: re-use the touchscreen itself the metal chassis and the audio amplifier. * HDMI input Chromecast-like functionality * Target would be a price point at or below the MCU2 upgrade cost. Self-install possible. | My feedback would be that the cost of custom hardware and software development for a project of this scope will not be compatible with a $1500 $2000 price point. | interesting af | 39 | 4 | 9,555 |
u45nbn | 96 | Custom hardware and software proposal by wk057 I noticed that u wk057 is now seeking feedback about developing a fully custom mostly open-source drop-in hardware and software replacement for the Tesla infotainment system in pre-Plaid S X vehicles. I think this is an *excellent* proposal. For now this is aimed at MCU1 vehicles. It has the potential to offer many long desired features as described in his recent tweets including some stuff that even MCU2 and MCU3 do not offer. It s an upgrade I would pay for. Here s a link to his Twitter thread and poll: https: twitter.com wk057 status 1514256727490838529 Notes copied from his Twitter thread include: * No more official Tesla OTAs but new OTAs for the new system for sure * Lots of tweakability * Probably Android Based * Diag Power user info * USB peripheral support (cameras etc) * Customizations to Autopilot (probably no FSD support for a while) * Since Android: Google Maps nav or Waze or whatever maps app you like * WiFi Hotspot (using non-Tesla SIM) * Skins and other customizations * Likely keep Tesla app access * Hardware: re-use the touchscreen itself the metal chassis and the audio amplifier. * HDMI input Chromecast-like functionality * Target would be a price point at or below the MCU2 upgrade cost. Self-install possible. | Pipe dream. Software engineer too expensive and this will be never be good and maintained properly | That s a slippery slope. The dude obviously knows his stuff but trying to deliver something so feature-rich while maintaining compatibility with the rest of the car and not ruining the mission critical aspect of the system will be a massive pain in the ass. | 43 | 12 | 9,556 |
u5c6f1 | 69 | How concerned are you about future logs showed almost no usage feature removals? With today s change to the inclusion of the mobile connector on new vehicle deliveries I m curious how others feel about feature reductions. **For context:** [Elon confirming the removal of the front passenger lumbar adjustment](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1399492488612691973?s=20& t=YdgOyHp9w1N75dvnSkOuCg) [Elon confirming the removal of the mobile connector](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1515439697425805315?s=20& t=91INTmmSNBC-AD-YbWK-Vg) For those of us that have been around the Tesla brand a while we re no strangers to change. Some days you get new features like [Model Y HEPA filters](https: insideevs.com news 525756 tesla-modely-hepa-bioweapon-defense ) and Model 3 [Heated Steering Wheel.](https: insideevs.com features 547431 tesla-model3-heated-steering-wheel ) On other days you lose features like the [Model 3 Grocery Bag Hooks.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dt9nsa 2020_model_3_doesnt_come_with_grocery_bag_hooks ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x& context=3) **To be clear I m not a sensationalist person and I m not trying to stir up FUD ** I don t think Tesla will remove the rear passenger power windows simply because logs show I don t use them often (I don t have kids and it s often rainy and cold where I live). I m just curious what thoughts and feelings y all have on these types of changes. **So how concerned are you about future logs showed almost no usage feature removals?** Edit: formatting [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll u5c6f1) | My concern is that this is a blatant lie. There s no way that the number of people using the included charger is “super low.” Teslascope reports that 61% of their fleet is using the mobile connector. I would think that s pretty on par with the general public if not low. This is the same excuse we heard about HomeLink and I don t believe that either. Teslas aren t cheap and I d wager that most buyers (outside the Bay Area bubble) can afford a garage. | No my 2021 Y is likely the only Tesla I ll ever get. There ll be more options when it s time for a replacement. | 142 | 14 | 9,557 |
u5c6f1 | 69 | How concerned are you about future logs showed almost no usage feature removals? With today s change to the inclusion of the mobile connector on new vehicle deliveries I m curious how others feel about feature reductions. **For context:** [Elon confirming the removal of the front passenger lumbar adjustment](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1399492488612691973?s=20& t=YdgOyHp9w1N75dvnSkOuCg) [Elon confirming the removal of the mobile connector](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1515439697425805315?s=20& t=91INTmmSNBC-AD-YbWK-Vg) For those of us that have been around the Tesla brand a while we re no strangers to change. Some days you get new features like [Model Y HEPA filters](https: insideevs.com news 525756 tesla-modely-hepa-bioweapon-defense ) and Model 3 [Heated Steering Wheel.](https: insideevs.com features 547431 tesla-model3-heated-steering-wheel ) On other days you lose features like the [Model 3 Grocery Bag Hooks.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dt9nsa 2020_model_3_doesnt_come_with_grocery_bag_hooks ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x& context=3) **To be clear I m not a sensationalist person and I m not trying to stir up FUD ** I don t think Tesla will remove the rear passenger power windows simply because logs show I don t use them often (I don t have kids and it s often rainy and cold where I live). I m just curious what thoughts and feelings y all have on these types of changes. **So how concerned are you about future logs showed almost no usage feature removals?** Edit: formatting [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll u5c6f1) | My concern is that this is a blatant lie. There s no way that the number of people using the included charger is “super low.” Teslascope reports that 61% of their fleet is using the mobile connector. I would think that s pretty on par with the general public if not low. This is the same excuse we heard about HomeLink and I don t believe that either. Teslas aren t cheap and I d wager that most buyers (outside the Bay Area bubble) can afford a garage. | A 53k getting features and accessories removed? That s trash | 142 | 17 | 9,558 |
u5c6f1 | 69 | How concerned are you about future logs showed almost no usage feature removals? With today s change to the inclusion of the mobile connector on new vehicle deliveries I m curious how others feel about feature reductions. **For context:** [Elon confirming the removal of the front passenger lumbar adjustment](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1399492488612691973?s=20& t=YdgOyHp9w1N75dvnSkOuCg) [Elon confirming the removal of the mobile connector](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1515439697425805315?s=20& t=91INTmmSNBC-AD-YbWK-Vg) For those of us that have been around the Tesla brand a while we re no strangers to change. Some days you get new features like [Model Y HEPA filters](https: insideevs.com news 525756 tesla-modely-hepa-bioweapon-defense ) and Model 3 [Heated Steering Wheel.](https: insideevs.com features 547431 tesla-model3-heated-steering-wheel ) On other days you lose features like the [Model 3 Grocery Bag Hooks.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dt9nsa 2020_model_3_doesnt_come_with_grocery_bag_hooks ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x& context=3) **To be clear I m not a sensationalist person and I m not trying to stir up FUD ** I don t think Tesla will remove the rear passenger power windows simply because logs show I don t use them often (I don t have kids and it s often rainy and cold where I live). I m just curious what thoughts and feelings y all have on these types of changes. **So how concerned are you about future logs showed almost no usage feature removals?** Edit: formatting [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll u5c6f1) | My concern is that this is a blatant lie. There s no way that the number of people using the included charger is “super low.” Teslascope reports that 61% of their fleet is using the mobile connector. I would think that s pretty on par with the general public if not low. This is the same excuse we heard about HomeLink and I don t believe that either. Teslas aren t cheap and I d wager that most buyers (outside the Bay Area bubble) can afford a garage. | Logs show most drivers don t use FSD. | 142 | 18 | 9,559 |
u5dk1s | 218 | [Poll] Should the mobile connector be included with every Tesla purchased? [deleted] [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll u5dk1s) | Let the buyer choose either a mobile charger or $275 Tesla shop gift card. Why the Apple analogy doesn t work - if I needed charging cables I can go just about anywhere and buy it now if I needed one (cvs Walmart Amazon Target gas station …). There is no shortage. It s so common hotels will just give you one out of their lost and found box. Tesla mobile charges aren t as common as an Apple cable and they re often out of stock (I just checked both mobile chargers are out of stock at the Tesla shop). It s too soon NOT to give one the EV era is still a single digit fraction of the car market. Maybe in a few years … sure … when we re all on our 2nd 3rd or 4th Tesla. Update - Elon just posted a compromise and Tesla will drop the price to $200 and make it “[“easy to order” with the car](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1515577134437347329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1515577134437347329%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10& ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-4062828021619568985.ampproject.net%2F2203172113000%2Fframe.html) | Are you serious I ordered on 4-9-22 and I was planning on charging at home with the connector. I hope orders before this change still get one. I might cancel if it doesn t. | 280 | 2 | 9,560 |
u5dk1s | 218 | [Poll] Should the mobile connector be included with every Tesla purchased? [deleted] [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll u5dk1s) | Let the buyer choose either a mobile charger or $275 Tesla shop gift card. Why the Apple analogy doesn t work - if I needed charging cables I can go just about anywhere and buy it now if I needed one (cvs Walmart Amazon Target gas station …). There is no shortage. It s so common hotels will just give you one out of their lost and found box. Tesla mobile charges aren t as common as an Apple cable and they re often out of stock (I just checked both mobile chargers are out of stock at the Tesla shop). It s too soon NOT to give one the EV era is still a single digit fraction of the car market. Maybe in a few years … sure … when we re all on our 2nd 3rd or 4th Tesla. Update - Elon just posted a compromise and Tesla will drop the price to $200 and make it “[“easy to order” with the car](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1515577134437347329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1515577134437347329%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10& ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-4062828021619568985.ampproject.net%2F2203172113000%2Fframe.html) | I have a hard time believing that most owners don t use it. If it s true then I guess it is wasteful to include but should come with price reduction and should be in stock  | 280 | 15 | 9,561 |
u5dk1s | 218 | [Poll] Should the mobile connector be included with every Tesla purchased? [deleted] [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll u5dk1s) | Let the buyer choose either a mobile charger or $275 Tesla shop gift card. Why the Apple analogy doesn t work - if I needed charging cables I can go just about anywhere and buy it now if I needed one (cvs Walmart Amazon Target gas station …). There is no shortage. It s so common hotels will just give you one out of their lost and found box. Tesla mobile charges aren t as common as an Apple cable and they re often out of stock (I just checked both mobile chargers are out of stock at the Tesla shop). It s too soon NOT to give one the EV era is still a single digit fraction of the car market. Maybe in a few years … sure … when we re all on our 2nd 3rd or 4th Tesla. Update - Elon just posted a compromise and Tesla will drop the price to $200 and make it “[“easy to order” with the car](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1515577134437347329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1515577134437347329%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10& ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-4062828021619568985.ampproject.net%2F2203172113000%2Fframe.html) | That s like selling an iPhone without a charger!! Oh wait.... Edit: I voted yes. I d be very unhappy if my MX didn t come with one. | 280 | 17 | 9,562 |
u61hfc | 126 | Painfully slow state of Tesla navigation map in v11 This is a video of a trip planned in my 2021 Model 3 LR navigation system: https: reddit.com link u61hfc video 9xl6up13x6u81 player I know that my vehicle was one of the last few shipped with the old Intel processors. But still [before v11 the navigation system was working perfectly fine](https: youtu.be hf_uzxVRXJE?t=565) (video from 3 years ago) even on Intel SKUs older than mine. How is this behaving on legacy models MCU? It is not only frustrating to use when trying to pinpoint parking lots lanes or precise locations on arrival but also embarrassing to passenger who see this giant iPad perform slower than a cheapo 89$ Android phone from 2017. And this is not even exaggerating those phone will rip through Google Maps faster than a Tesla. The system has performance to spare and as shown in the video it works fine with satellite view. It keeps buttery smooth 60fps in animations or even while moving around the map itself but it seems like the actual loading and rendering of tiles is completely broken and or unoptimised software-wise. Note: I show in the video the full LTE reception but it still does this on 1Gbit WiFi. System was also freshly rebooted. To be fair it doesn t always hang up -this badly- but 90% of the time the experience is really really frustrating. Running on 2022.8.3 and not really holding my breath for 2022.12.1. | im experiencing the same thing. V11 is significantly more sluggish and my car is a 2022 with intel. really disappointed | Yeah but c mon I need the whoopie cushion to be priority #1 over maps loading s | 84 | 2 | 9,563 |
u61hfc | 126 | Painfully slow state of Tesla navigation map in v11 This is a video of a trip planned in my 2021 Model 3 LR navigation system: https: reddit.com link u61hfc video 9xl6up13x6u81 player I know that my vehicle was one of the last few shipped with the old Intel processors. But still [before v11 the navigation system was working perfectly fine](https: youtu.be hf_uzxVRXJE?t=565) (video from 3 years ago) even on Intel SKUs older than mine. How is this behaving on legacy models MCU? It is not only frustrating to use when trying to pinpoint parking lots lanes or precise locations on arrival but also embarrassing to passenger who see this giant iPad perform slower than a cheapo 89$ Android phone from 2017. And this is not even exaggerating those phone will rip through Google Maps faster than a Tesla. The system has performance to spare and as shown in the video it works fine with satellite view. It keeps buttery smooth 60fps in animations or even while moving around the map itself but it seems like the actual loading and rendering of tiles is completely broken and or unoptimised software-wise. Note: I show in the video the full LTE reception but it still does this on 1Gbit WiFi. System was also freshly rebooted. To be fair it doesn t always hang up -this badly- but 90% of the time the experience is really really frustrating. Running on 2022.8.3 and not really holding my breath for 2022.12.1. | im experiencing the same thing. V11 is significantly more sluggish and my car is a 2022 with intel. really disappointed | I can t play your video but I have the original processor and it is the same as before v11. | 84 | 2 | 9,564 |
u61hfc | 126 | Painfully slow state of Tesla navigation map in v11 This is a video of a trip planned in my 2021 Model 3 LR navigation system: https: reddit.com link u61hfc video 9xl6up13x6u81 player I know that my vehicle was one of the last few shipped with the old Intel processors. But still [before v11 the navigation system was working perfectly fine](https: youtu.be hf_uzxVRXJE?t=565) (video from 3 years ago) even on Intel SKUs older than mine. How is this behaving on legacy models MCU? It is not only frustrating to use when trying to pinpoint parking lots lanes or precise locations on arrival but also embarrassing to passenger who see this giant iPad perform slower than a cheapo 89$ Android phone from 2017. And this is not even exaggerating those phone will rip through Google Maps faster than a Tesla. The system has performance to spare and as shown in the video it works fine with satellite view. It keeps buttery smooth 60fps in animations or even while moving around the map itself but it seems like the actual loading and rendering of tiles is completely broken and or unoptimised software-wise. Note: I show in the video the full LTE reception but it still does this on 1Gbit WiFi. System was also freshly rebooted. To be fair it doesn t always hang up -this badly- but 90% of the time the experience is really really frustrating. Running on 2022.8.3 and not really holding my breath for 2022.12.1. | im experiencing the same thing. V11 is significantly more sluggish and my car is a 2022 with intel. really disappointed | Sorry you re having such a bad time. Mine doesn t do that and I m on the same CPU. | 84 | 4 | 9,565 |
u6n7vv | 230 | Tesla insurance is now available in Oregon Virginia and Colorado. Tesla insurance is now available in Oregon Virginia and Colorado. https: twitter.com SawyerMerritt status 1516156117436534793 | Don t have an example of a claim but I can vouch for their customer service on other issues. I ve had to call them three times now: * Once because the CA. DMV didn t have the NAIC number or it wasn t in their systems so I received a Notice of Suspension for not having insurance. Called Tesla and the guy gave it to his supervisor to follow up with. Apparently they knew the issue and were trying to get the DMV to fix it. They emailed me back that all was done. * Called to get a quote on my son s new car (not a Tesla). Had the quote in minutes. * Called to add my 2nd Tesla took minutes. On all occasions I don t think I ve been on hold for more than a minute before I get an agent. Pretty happy. They are pretty integrated their CRM has all my info pulled up for them (VINs Coverage etc.) based on my caller ID which I appreciate. I ve heard that the claims process is outsourced to another company but don t have experience with them. | Curious if people have found Tesla to be comparatively better vs traditional auto carriers. Anyone who has had it for a bit think it a better product? | 41 | 8 | 9,566 |
u74lgf | 77 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | ##### All - **Disable headlight flash for sentry mode** If you live in a busy street park facing another house it s nice to not draw attention to the car. It just needs to record no need to flash. There s been plenty of teslacam vids of drunks attacking the car only after it flashes at them and reports in groups of neighbours complaining of the flashing. Oh and some of us just don t want to draw that much attention to the car. - **Disable honk on lock when at home this location ** Honk on lock is a lovely confirmation but middle of the night with neighbours is annoying for them and depending on the country technically against the law (This is true for the UK). Location based lock honks would be a good compromise. - **Accessibility options** We ve now had two *lit* holiday updates that resulted in font size icons and touch area shrinkages. Be it due to eyesight colour blindness or mobility issues tesla really needs to include accessibility options to adjust the sizes and locations to meet the users needs. (Heck the first *lit* holiday update with a partial ui redo resulted in so much backlash they restored the font sizes but took a while longer before fixing text alignments... lol) UI s really can t be half arsed they need proper diverse user testing - **Better charge scheduling** The current setup of exclusionary desired departure time vs start charging at X time is weird. These should be complimentary features and easily accessible in the same place in the car like in the app. Something like: ***start charge time plus an optional stop charging times for cheap tariffs(tick to enable?)*** plus tickbox for precondition via charger for those who don t mind the cost and prefer to pre-heat via their socket rather than drain the range. For the scheduled departure time It d be nice to choose how how far in advance of departure it should start preconditioning for those who just want a warm cabin and not a warm battery. - **Display active energy draining settings within energy chart charging window** Though most people become aware that sentry mode drains the battery it s not obvious to new drivers. Even more so for the Summon standby setting for those with FSD. For the most part I believe Tesla have solved the phantom drain issues when the appropriate settings are off. But as Tesla doesn t explicitly tell the users what these are or what the drain is it d be nice if this was visualised listed so that the end user can discover this information themselves - **Customisable minimum SoC% to reach destination** Charging at your destination may not always be possible or within range of the destination. If the journey is long enough the current navigation approach of allowing you to arrive with ~5% means you may get there without enough charge to head off. Having the option to set a minimum SoC to reach the destination at (like in abrp zap-map others) would be useful. Something along the lines of `If final leg SoC_floor = user_input else soc_floor = 5%` with the user input either being an option during the route planning and or a user preference minimum destination %. Off the top of my head an easy way to flesh this out further is to make use of the cars own records of 3rd party home charging locations too so allowing for this logic to be conditional based on known charging locations (so you don t need to override when driving home for example or just offer an exclude home tickbox like other features). This can be worked around by adding part all of the return trip onto the outbound so that it coincidentally calculates for a higher SoC at your destination but this lacks refinement. - **report mapping error** An official way to report mapping errors would be great for fixing map related phantom breaking dangerous mapping errors speed limit errors generally improve the performance of the smart features. Preferably via app and car. For via app have it requiring an account with a linked car would dramatically reduce risk of abuse. ##### 3 Y - **Expand left scroll wheel conditional usage to include wiper speed (match refreshed S X feature)** Title says it all. Refreshed S X has this. No reason to not provide it to 3 Y other than gatekeeping the feature. 3 Y already have conditional scrolling depending on what audio sources are active (navigation if it s talking otherwise music) so expanding that list to include *when wiper quick-access is open scroll through options* (*with potential for left right click to enable disable auto*) | Allow the option the change driving profiles from the app. My wife is short and I am tall it s a small problem but something that should easily be able to fix. | 105 | 4 | 9,567 |
u74lgf | 77 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | ##### All - **Disable headlight flash for sentry mode** If you live in a busy street park facing another house it s nice to not draw attention to the car. It just needs to record no need to flash. There s been plenty of teslacam vids of drunks attacking the car only after it flashes at them and reports in groups of neighbours complaining of the flashing. Oh and some of us just don t want to draw that much attention to the car. - **Disable honk on lock when at home this location ** Honk on lock is a lovely confirmation but middle of the night with neighbours is annoying for them and depending on the country technically against the law (This is true for the UK). Location based lock honks would be a good compromise. - **Accessibility options** We ve now had two *lit* holiday updates that resulted in font size icons and touch area shrinkages. Be it due to eyesight colour blindness or mobility issues tesla really needs to include accessibility options to adjust the sizes and locations to meet the users needs. (Heck the first *lit* holiday update with a partial ui redo resulted in so much backlash they restored the font sizes but took a while longer before fixing text alignments... lol) UI s really can t be half arsed they need proper diverse user testing - **Better charge scheduling** The current setup of exclusionary desired departure time vs start charging at X time is weird. These should be complimentary features and easily accessible in the same place in the car like in the app. Something like: ***start charge time plus an optional stop charging times for cheap tariffs(tick to enable?)*** plus tickbox for precondition via charger for those who don t mind the cost and prefer to pre-heat via their socket rather than drain the range. For the scheduled departure time It d be nice to choose how how far in advance of departure it should start preconditioning for those who just want a warm cabin and not a warm battery. - **Display active energy draining settings within energy chart charging window** Though most people become aware that sentry mode drains the battery it s not obvious to new drivers. Even more so for the Summon standby setting for those with FSD. For the most part I believe Tesla have solved the phantom drain issues when the appropriate settings are off. But as Tesla doesn t explicitly tell the users what these are or what the drain is it d be nice if this was visualised listed so that the end user can discover this information themselves - **Customisable minimum SoC% to reach destination** Charging at your destination may not always be possible or within range of the destination. If the journey is long enough the current navigation approach of allowing you to arrive with ~5% means you may get there without enough charge to head off. Having the option to set a minimum SoC to reach the destination at (like in abrp zap-map others) would be useful. Something along the lines of `If final leg SoC_floor = user_input else soc_floor = 5%` with the user input either being an option during the route planning and or a user preference minimum destination %. Off the top of my head an easy way to flesh this out further is to make use of the cars own records of 3rd party home charging locations too so allowing for this logic to be conditional based on known charging locations (so you don t need to override when driving home for example or just offer an exclude home tickbox like other features). This can be worked around by adding part all of the return trip onto the outbound so that it coincidentally calculates for a higher SoC at your destination but this lacks refinement. - **report mapping error** An official way to report mapping errors would be great for fixing map related phantom breaking dangerous mapping errors speed limit errors generally improve the performance of the smart features. Preferably via app and car. For via app have it requiring an account with a linked car would dramatically reduce risk of abuse. ##### 3 Y - **Expand left scroll wheel conditional usage to include wiper speed (match refreshed S X feature)** Title says it all. Refreshed S X has this. No reason to not provide it to 3 Y other than gatekeeping the feature. 3 Y already have conditional scrolling depending on what audio sources are active (navigation if it s talking otherwise music) so expanding that list to include *when wiper quick-access is open scroll through options* (*with potential for left right click to enable disable auto*) | Resume previous AutoPilot speed after a suggested speed limit corner. & #x200B I commute 80 kms each way on a highway with a max speed of 80km h. There are many many corners on my commute with recommended speed signs of 30-60 km h and each of these signs causes AutoPilot to slow down to those speeds and then remains on that lower speed limit despite the corner being long past. Would be nice if the computer could differentiate the suggested speed signs from the actual speed limits (suggested corner speed signs are reflective yellow regular are white). As it is I have to reset AutoPilot after each corner. | 105 | 15 | 9,568 |
u74lgf | 77 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | ##### All - **Disable headlight flash for sentry mode** If you live in a busy street park facing another house it s nice to not draw attention to the car. It just needs to record no need to flash. There s been plenty of teslacam vids of drunks attacking the car only after it flashes at them and reports in groups of neighbours complaining of the flashing. Oh and some of us just don t want to draw that much attention to the car. - **Disable honk on lock when at home this location ** Honk on lock is a lovely confirmation but middle of the night with neighbours is annoying for them and depending on the country technically against the law (This is true for the UK). Location based lock honks would be a good compromise. - **Accessibility options** We ve now had two *lit* holiday updates that resulted in font size icons and touch area shrinkages. Be it due to eyesight colour blindness or mobility issues tesla really needs to include accessibility options to adjust the sizes and locations to meet the users needs. (Heck the first *lit* holiday update with a partial ui redo resulted in so much backlash they restored the font sizes but took a while longer before fixing text alignments... lol) UI s really can t be half arsed they need proper diverse user testing - **Better charge scheduling** The current setup of exclusionary desired departure time vs start charging at X time is weird. These should be complimentary features and easily accessible in the same place in the car like in the app. Something like: ***start charge time plus an optional stop charging times for cheap tariffs(tick to enable?)*** plus tickbox for precondition via charger for those who don t mind the cost and prefer to pre-heat via their socket rather than drain the range. For the scheduled departure time It d be nice to choose how how far in advance of departure it should start preconditioning for those who just want a warm cabin and not a warm battery. - **Display active energy draining settings within energy chart charging window** Though most people become aware that sentry mode drains the battery it s not obvious to new drivers. Even more so for the Summon standby setting for those with FSD. For the most part I believe Tesla have solved the phantom drain issues when the appropriate settings are off. But as Tesla doesn t explicitly tell the users what these are or what the drain is it d be nice if this was visualised listed so that the end user can discover this information themselves - **Customisable minimum SoC% to reach destination** Charging at your destination may not always be possible or within range of the destination. If the journey is long enough the current navigation approach of allowing you to arrive with ~5% means you may get there without enough charge to head off. Having the option to set a minimum SoC to reach the destination at (like in abrp zap-map others) would be useful. Something along the lines of `If final leg SoC_floor = user_input else soc_floor = 5%` with the user input either being an option during the route planning and or a user preference minimum destination %. Off the top of my head an easy way to flesh this out further is to make use of the cars own records of 3rd party home charging locations too so allowing for this logic to be conditional based on known charging locations (so you don t need to override when driving home for example or just offer an exclude home tickbox like other features). This can be worked around by adding part all of the return trip onto the outbound so that it coincidentally calculates for a higher SoC at your destination but this lacks refinement. - **report mapping error** An official way to report mapping errors would be great for fixing map related phantom breaking dangerous mapping errors speed limit errors generally improve the performance of the smart features. Preferably via app and car. For via app have it requiring an account with a linked car would dramatically reduce risk of abuse. ##### 3 Y - **Expand left scroll wheel conditional usage to include wiper speed (match refreshed S X feature)** Title says it all. Refreshed S X has this. No reason to not provide it to 3 Y other than gatekeeping the feature. 3 Y already have conditional scrolling depending on what audio sources are active (navigation if it s talking otherwise music) so expanding that list to include *when wiper quick-access is open scroll through options* (*with potential for left right click to enable disable auto*) | The Apple Car play thing | 105 | 23 | 9,569 |
u7kzuq | 120 | Optiwatt seems to be an actual scam intended to steal from people. I have seen several ads on Facebook and elsewhere for Optiwatt. I looked into the terms of service and it seems like Optiwatt is a scam or a charade intended to steal information and money. I wanted to warn others. I can t believe that they are trying this. It is honestly disgusting and predatory. Optiwatt purports to be a service that will monitor your actual electric rates and cause your EV to charge at the best time (lowest real-time rate). A service like this is attractive - where I am we have real-time pricing but the rates can really vary. It s easy to charge in the middle of the night which is usually the best rate but that s not optimal. Of course to make this all work you need to give them access to your Tesla or other EV account (and maybe your electric account I didn t get that far). I took a quick look at Optiwatt s terms I am sorry to say I didn t even read that far before reading something that disgusted me and showed that it is intended to be a straight-up scam. Optiwatt is trying to steal from you. It s certainly possible that there will be new EV incentives like credits or similar cash for Teslas and there are still many for other EVs. This would also include other credits that Optiwatt is surreptitiously trying to monetize for themselves. Even if they wouldn t try to steal tax credits this language is very broad and they could take that as well as a huge variety of other incentives related to EVs. “As partial consideration for your use of the Company Services you hereby transfer and assign to the Company all right title and interest in and to the Environmental Attributes. You further hereby represent and warrant that the Environmental Attributes are free and clear of any other claims or encumbrances of any kind whatsoever and agree to provide the Company your best efforts with respect to any act reasonably necessary for the Company to perfect title in and to the Environmental Attributes.” “Environmental Attributes : any and all emissions and renewable energy credits energy conservation credits benefits reductions offsets and allowances emission reduction credits or words of similar import or regulatory effect (including emissions reduction credits or allowances under all applicable emission trading compliance or budget programs or any other federal state or regional emission renewable energy or energy conservation trading or budget program) resulting from the avoidance of the emission of any gas chemical or other substance into the air soil or water that are related or attributable to your ownership or operation of an electric or hybrid-powered vehicle.” | Casey here CEO and founder of Optiwatt sorry I m so late to the party I m speaking on a panel at GridFwd in Seattle today. First let me say I can absolutely see how this language could be jarring and concerning so let me explain exactly why we have it and what we use it for. Optiwatt gets paid to produce environmental credits by shifting charging times to more environmentally friendly times (you ll notice we just rolled out our “Save the Planet” plan). We do so using CARBS “Smart Charging Lookup Table Pathway” and “Zero-CI electricity” pathway [https: ww2.arb.ca.gov sites default files classic fuels lcfs guidance smartcharging\\_userguide.pdf](https: ww2.arb.ca.gov sites default files classic fuels lcfs guidance smartcharging_userguide.pdf) [https: ww2.arb.ca.gov resources documents lcfs-electricity-and-hydrogen-provisions](https: ww2.arb.ca.gov resources documents lcfs-electricity-and-hydrogen-provisions). What this means is that if you are on the “Save the Planet” plan and Optiwatt shifts your vehicle from high emission times to low emissions time we earn environmental credits that we can sell based on the number of emissions we reduced. Alternatively depending on location Optiwatt may purchase RECs to offset your emissions from energy consumption (in essence purchasing clean energy on behalf of certain drivers). This allows Optiwatt to 1) pay for this data set for emissions reductions from WattTime and 2) continue to hire engineers to support our development and optimization around emission reductions. These environmental credits are sold in tons (so as of now it s impossible for an individual driver to sell these themselves) and just to be clear the EV car manufacturers also generate and sell credits on your behalf (just like solar installers). We DO NOT take any tax credits cash offerings or any incentives that would go directly to you as the driver and the language on this page does not permit that. We have just rolled out this “Save the Planet” plan and are required to get the legalese in place before we can start load shifting and earning credits which is why this hasn t been listed in our FAQ. We have only just started generating credits in California so this is very new on our roadmap. I know this sounds like PR speak but Optiwatt has and will continue to be transparent in terms of how we monetize and where our money comes from. We have never once and have no intention of ever selling personal data. All the comments about Optiwatt having the ability to hijack cars are completely wrong the API access does not allow any sort of driving functionality. I ll be on today around 3 pm PT to answer any questions but please be patient as I ll be unable to respond quickly this morning. | My first thought was that my car can do that by itself so what are you offering me? | 93 | 4 | 9,570 |
u7kzuq | 120 | Optiwatt seems to be an actual scam intended to steal from people. I have seen several ads on Facebook and elsewhere for Optiwatt. I looked into the terms of service and it seems like Optiwatt is a scam or a charade intended to steal information and money. I wanted to warn others. I can t believe that they are trying this. It is honestly disgusting and predatory. Optiwatt purports to be a service that will monitor your actual electric rates and cause your EV to charge at the best time (lowest real-time rate). A service like this is attractive - where I am we have real-time pricing but the rates can really vary. It s easy to charge in the middle of the night which is usually the best rate but that s not optimal. Of course to make this all work you need to give them access to your Tesla or other EV account (and maybe your electric account I didn t get that far). I took a quick look at Optiwatt s terms I am sorry to say I didn t even read that far before reading something that disgusted me and showed that it is intended to be a straight-up scam. Optiwatt is trying to steal from you. It s certainly possible that there will be new EV incentives like credits or similar cash for Teslas and there are still many for other EVs. This would also include other credits that Optiwatt is surreptitiously trying to monetize for themselves. Even if they wouldn t try to steal tax credits this language is very broad and they could take that as well as a huge variety of other incentives related to EVs. “As partial consideration for your use of the Company Services you hereby transfer and assign to the Company all right title and interest in and to the Environmental Attributes. You further hereby represent and warrant that the Environmental Attributes are free and clear of any other claims or encumbrances of any kind whatsoever and agree to provide the Company your best efforts with respect to any act reasonably necessary for the Company to perfect title in and to the Environmental Attributes.” “Environmental Attributes : any and all emissions and renewable energy credits energy conservation credits benefits reductions offsets and allowances emission reduction credits or words of similar import or regulatory effect (including emissions reduction credits or allowances under all applicable emission trading compliance or budget programs or any other federal state or regional emission renewable energy or energy conservation trading or budget program) resulting from the avoidance of the emission of any gas chemical or other substance into the air soil or water that are related or attributable to your ownership or operation of an electric or hybrid-powered vehicle.” | Casey here CEO and founder of Optiwatt sorry I m so late to the party I m speaking on a panel at GridFwd in Seattle today. First let me say I can absolutely see how this language could be jarring and concerning so let me explain exactly why we have it and what we use it for. Optiwatt gets paid to produce environmental credits by shifting charging times to more environmentally friendly times (you ll notice we just rolled out our “Save the Planet” plan). We do so using CARBS “Smart Charging Lookup Table Pathway” and “Zero-CI electricity” pathway [https: ww2.arb.ca.gov sites default files classic fuels lcfs guidance smartcharging\\_userguide.pdf](https: ww2.arb.ca.gov sites default files classic fuels lcfs guidance smartcharging_userguide.pdf) [https: ww2.arb.ca.gov resources documents lcfs-electricity-and-hydrogen-provisions](https: ww2.arb.ca.gov resources documents lcfs-electricity-and-hydrogen-provisions). What this means is that if you are on the “Save the Planet” plan and Optiwatt shifts your vehicle from high emission times to low emissions time we earn environmental credits that we can sell based on the number of emissions we reduced. Alternatively depending on location Optiwatt may purchase RECs to offset your emissions from energy consumption (in essence purchasing clean energy on behalf of certain drivers). This allows Optiwatt to 1) pay for this data set for emissions reductions from WattTime and 2) continue to hire engineers to support our development and optimization around emission reductions. These environmental credits are sold in tons (so as of now it s impossible for an individual driver to sell these themselves) and just to be clear the EV car manufacturers also generate and sell credits on your behalf (just like solar installers). We DO NOT take any tax credits cash offerings or any incentives that would go directly to you as the driver and the language on this page does not permit that. We have just rolled out this “Save the Planet” plan and are required to get the legalese in place before we can start load shifting and earning credits which is why this hasn t been listed in our FAQ. We have only just started generating credits in California so this is very new on our roadmap. I know this sounds like PR speak but Optiwatt has and will continue to be transparent in terms of how we monetize and where our money comes from. We have never once and have no intention of ever selling personal data. All the comments about Optiwatt having the ability to hijack cars are completely wrong the API access does not allow any sort of driving functionality. I ll be on today around 3 pm PT to answer any questions but please be patient as I ll be unable to respond quickly this morning. | Yeah I don t use them anymore. Try changing your Tesla pw and someone from Opti will contact you to get you to sign up again. Hard pass from me | 93 | 5 | 9,571 |
u7kzuq | 120 | Optiwatt seems to be an actual scam intended to steal from people. I have seen several ads on Facebook and elsewhere for Optiwatt. I looked into the terms of service and it seems like Optiwatt is a scam or a charade intended to steal information and money. I wanted to warn others. I can t believe that they are trying this. It is honestly disgusting and predatory. Optiwatt purports to be a service that will monitor your actual electric rates and cause your EV to charge at the best time (lowest real-time rate). A service like this is attractive - where I am we have real-time pricing but the rates can really vary. It s easy to charge in the middle of the night which is usually the best rate but that s not optimal. Of course to make this all work you need to give them access to your Tesla or other EV account (and maybe your electric account I didn t get that far). I took a quick look at Optiwatt s terms I am sorry to say I didn t even read that far before reading something that disgusted me and showed that it is intended to be a straight-up scam. Optiwatt is trying to steal from you. It s certainly possible that there will be new EV incentives like credits or similar cash for Teslas and there are still many for other EVs. This would also include other credits that Optiwatt is surreptitiously trying to monetize for themselves. Even if they wouldn t try to steal tax credits this language is very broad and they could take that as well as a huge variety of other incentives related to EVs. “As partial consideration for your use of the Company Services you hereby transfer and assign to the Company all right title and interest in and to the Environmental Attributes. You further hereby represent and warrant that the Environmental Attributes are free and clear of any other claims or encumbrances of any kind whatsoever and agree to provide the Company your best efforts with respect to any act reasonably necessary for the Company to perfect title in and to the Environmental Attributes.” “Environmental Attributes : any and all emissions and renewable energy credits energy conservation credits benefits reductions offsets and allowances emission reduction credits or words of similar import or regulatory effect (including emissions reduction credits or allowances under all applicable emission trading compliance or budget programs or any other federal state or regional emission renewable energy or energy conservation trading or budget program) resulting from the avoidance of the emission of any gas chemical or other substance into the air soil or water that are related or attributable to your ownership or operation of an electric or hybrid-powered vehicle.” | Casey here CEO and founder of Optiwatt sorry I m so late to the party I m speaking on a panel at GridFwd in Seattle today. First let me say I can absolutely see how this language could be jarring and concerning so let me explain exactly why we have it and what we use it for. Optiwatt gets paid to produce environmental credits by shifting charging times to more environmentally friendly times (you ll notice we just rolled out our “Save the Planet” plan). We do so using CARBS “Smart Charging Lookup Table Pathway” and “Zero-CI electricity” pathway [https: ww2.arb.ca.gov sites default files classic fuels lcfs guidance smartcharging\\_userguide.pdf](https: ww2.arb.ca.gov sites default files classic fuels lcfs guidance smartcharging_userguide.pdf) [https: ww2.arb.ca.gov resources documents lcfs-electricity-and-hydrogen-provisions](https: ww2.arb.ca.gov resources documents lcfs-electricity-and-hydrogen-provisions). What this means is that if you are on the “Save the Planet” plan and Optiwatt shifts your vehicle from high emission times to low emissions time we earn environmental credits that we can sell based on the number of emissions we reduced. Alternatively depending on location Optiwatt may purchase RECs to offset your emissions from energy consumption (in essence purchasing clean energy on behalf of certain drivers). This allows Optiwatt to 1) pay for this data set for emissions reductions from WattTime and 2) continue to hire engineers to support our development and optimization around emission reductions. These environmental credits are sold in tons (so as of now it s impossible for an individual driver to sell these themselves) and just to be clear the EV car manufacturers also generate and sell credits on your behalf (just like solar installers). We DO NOT take any tax credits cash offerings or any incentives that would go directly to you as the driver and the language on this page does not permit that. We have just rolled out this “Save the Planet” plan and are required to get the legalese in place before we can start load shifting and earning credits which is why this hasn t been listed in our FAQ. We have only just started generating credits in California so this is very new on our roadmap. I know this sounds like PR speak but Optiwatt has and will continue to be transparent in terms of how we monetize and where our money comes from. We have never once and have no intention of ever selling personal data. All the comments about Optiwatt having the ability to hijack cars are completely wrong the API access does not allow any sort of driving functionality. I ll be on today around 3 pm PT to answer any questions but please be patient as I ll be unable to respond quickly this morning. | Sounds like they are referring to things like RECs and SRECs but without using those specific terms in order to be more generic. Similarly local utility companies often make you agree to give up any such credits in return for receiving utility solar incentives. If you received an EVSE through your utility you may also be giving up credits. Whether those credits are actually worth anything is a different question. These kind of credits do not have a fixed value. | 93 | 6 | 9,572 |
u85ga2 | 301 | Tesla Q1 2022 Earnings Call Megathread **What**: Date of Tesla Q1 2022 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast **When**: Wednesday April 20 2022 **Time**: 4:30 p.m. Central Time 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time **Q1 2022 Update**: http: ir.tesla.com **Webcast**: http: ir.tesla.com (live and replay) [YouTube Stream](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=kOyZ_Rypeto) **[Q1 Production + Deliveries](https: ir.tesla.com press-release tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-first-quarter)** **[Shareholder Deck](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla d65831a2-8ee6-4a41-81e7-6fcc6662e389 S1dbei4 WEB TSLA-Q1-2022-Update)** **[Earnings Call Notes](https: twitter.com dburkland status 1516915361601495040?s=21& t=MzyQEGW-Q6IIuDqc04wdiA)** by Dan Burkland | 81% sales jump? Better take all the charging cables out of new cars times are gonna be lean. | $679 million in regulatory credits from whom? | 94 | 3 | 9,573 |
u85ga2 | 301 | Tesla Q1 2022 Earnings Call Megathread **What**: Date of Tesla Q1 2022 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast **When**: Wednesday April 20 2022 **Time**: 4:30 p.m. Central Time 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time **Q1 2022 Update**: http: ir.tesla.com **Webcast**: http: ir.tesla.com (live and replay) [YouTube Stream](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=kOyZ_Rypeto) **[Q1 Production + Deliveries](https: ir.tesla.com press-release tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-first-quarter)** **[Shareholder Deck](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla d65831a2-8ee6-4a41-81e7-6fcc6662e389 S1dbei4 WEB TSLA-Q1-2022-Update)** **[Earnings Call Notes](https: twitter.com dburkland status 1516915361601495040?s=21& t=MzyQEGW-Q6IIuDqc04wdiA)** by Dan Burkland | 81% sales jump? Better take all the charging cables out of new cars times are gonna be lean. | What is the super bowl effect graph supposed to indicate? | 94 | 8 | 9,574 |
u85ga2 | 301 | Tesla Q1 2022 Earnings Call Megathread **What**: Date of Tesla Q1 2022 Financial Results and Q& A Webcast **When**: Wednesday April 20 2022 **Time**: 4:30 p.m. Central Time 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time **Q1 2022 Update**: http: ir.tesla.com **Webcast**: http: ir.tesla.com (live and replay) [YouTube Stream](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=kOyZ_Rypeto) **[Q1 Production + Deliveries](https: ir.tesla.com press-release tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-first-quarter)** **[Shareholder Deck](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla d65831a2-8ee6-4a41-81e7-6fcc6662e389 S1dbei4 WEB TSLA-Q1-2022-Update)** **[Earnings Call Notes](https: twitter.com dburkland status 1516915361601495040?s=21& t=MzyQEGW-Q6IIuDqc04wdiA)** by Dan Burkland | 81% sales jump? Better take all the charging cables out of new cars times are gonna be lean. | Like 10 months ago I was going through a personal crisis and I sold a few shares thinking I may need money soon. I ultimately didn t. I feel like such an idiot right now. But I m super glad it s been a good quarter I should emphasise that | 94 | 10 | 9,575 |
u9m3zn | 178 | Suggestion: Let us precondition our battery for supercharging from our phone I live pretty close to a super charger. When I start preconditioning my battery I usually get there before it has finished preconditioning. Suggestion: Let us precondition our battery from our phone so that we can precondition our car 15-20 minutes before we actually head to the supercharger. This is similar to preconditioning your cabin to the right temperature before departing. | I don t think phones have anywhere enough battery power to allow supercharging from them. | Aren t superchargers meant for longer trips so preconditioning had plenty of time to be done? Supercharging harms your battery and should be discouraged when unnecessary so I wouldn t implement the functionality. Also out of ease of use for most users too many options make using a product a nightmare. The most options isn t always the best choice. I am going against all the comments in the thread with this position. Not trying to get down voted only attempting to put things in context. | 41 | 2 | 9,576 |
u9m3zn | 178 | Suggestion: Let us precondition our battery for supercharging from our phone I live pretty close to a super charger. When I start preconditioning my battery I usually get there before it has finished preconditioning. Suggestion: Let us precondition our battery from our phone so that we can precondition our car 15-20 minutes before we actually head to the supercharger. This is similar to preconditioning your cabin to the right temperature before departing. | I don t think phones have anywhere enough battery power to allow supercharging from them. | Yes please. Pisses me off that you can t do this. I live at an apartment with no charging. This is normally not too big of an issue I stay topped up by using L2 chargers and the occasionally supercharger session but let s say I m at < 30% in the morning after a chilly night+sentry mode and I m trying to take a road trip somewhere. < 30% most likely won t get me to the next supercharger at least not comfortably. It would be great to be able to precondition my car for supercharging since I live a dozen blocks from a supercharger. Me just getting in my car and driving a quarter mile to the charger isn t enough time to precondition and I ll get stuck never getting over 100kw. Best option is to precondition the car 15 minutes before I leave and turn the heat up high. Why isn t there a precondition for supercharging button? | 41 | 2 | 9,577 |
u9m3zn | 178 | Suggestion: Let us precondition our battery for supercharging from our phone I live pretty close to a super charger. When I start preconditioning my battery I usually get there before it has finished preconditioning. Suggestion: Let us precondition our battery from our phone so that we can precondition our car 15-20 minutes before we actually head to the supercharger. This is similar to preconditioning your cabin to the right temperature before departing. | I don t think phones have anywhere enough battery power to allow supercharging from them. | It honestly doesn t matter. The precondition will not cut that much time off the charging experience. | 41 | 2 | 9,578 |
ua2cn4 | 106 | Living out of a Model Y -- any advice? # | - You re going to want some sort of privacy covers for the windows. - Assuming you keep sentry mode on and keep the climate control on at night you ll be using a lot of electricity. Make sure you have the mobile charger and any adapters for different plugs you may run into. - Tesmat is good but it takes up a ton of space. It would probably be fine if you never plan on breaking the bed down but if you intend to set up fresh most nights you may as well go for a nice air mattress. - there s a ton of coolers that use the 12v and would fit in the sub trunk. This will likely be a major drain on electricity so keep that in mind. There s a 12v port in the backside of the car so it should be relatively easy to set up. - a 40kg dog is going to be pretty cramped sleeping with you every night. Test it out a few times before taking the plunge you may want to find a temporary home for your furry friend. - Ditch the Ubers for some 19” wheels. For all the driving you re going to do they ll be much cheaper to replace. If you get a puncture in the 21” you may be stuck at a shop for a while waiting on replacement tires to come in. 19” tires are far more available. - when I camp out in mine I have an iPad mount that attaches to the glass ceiling. It s nice to watch movies in bed. | Please make a newsletter or blog of your experience. Am planning to do the same here in USA. Waiting for Cybertruck CyberLandr | 74 | 4 | 9,579 |
ua2cn4 | 106 | Living out of a Model Y -- any advice? # | - You re going to want some sort of privacy covers for the windows. - Assuming you keep sentry mode on and keep the climate control on at night you ll be using a lot of electricity. Make sure you have the mobile charger and any adapters for different plugs you may run into. - Tesmat is good but it takes up a ton of space. It would probably be fine if you never plan on breaking the bed down but if you intend to set up fresh most nights you may as well go for a nice air mattress. - there s a ton of coolers that use the 12v and would fit in the sub trunk. This will likely be a major drain on electricity so keep that in mind. There s a 12v port in the backside of the car so it should be relatively easy to set up. - a 40kg dog is going to be pretty cramped sleeping with you every night. Test it out a few times before taking the plunge you may want to find a temporary home for your furry friend. - Ditch the Ubers for some 19” wheels. For all the driving you re going to do they ll be much cheaper to replace. If you get a puncture in the 21” you may be stuck at a shop for a while waiting on replacement tires to come in. 19” tires are far more available. - when I camp out in mine I have an iPad mount that attaches to the glass ceiling. It s nice to watch movies in bed. | yep. my advice rent a caravan. | 74 | 8 | 9,580 |
ua2cn4 | 106 | Living out of a Model Y -- any advice? # | - You re going to want some sort of privacy covers for the windows. - Assuming you keep sentry mode on and keep the climate control on at night you ll be using a lot of electricity. Make sure you have the mobile charger and any adapters for different plugs you may run into. - Tesmat is good but it takes up a ton of space. It would probably be fine if you never plan on breaking the bed down but if you intend to set up fresh most nights you may as well go for a nice air mattress. - there s a ton of coolers that use the 12v and would fit in the sub trunk. This will likely be a major drain on electricity so keep that in mind. There s a 12v port in the backside of the car so it should be relatively easy to set up. - a 40kg dog is going to be pretty cramped sleeping with you every night. Test it out a few times before taking the plunge you may want to find a temporary home for your furry friend. - Ditch the Ubers for some 19” wheels. For all the driving you re going to do they ll be much cheaper to replace. If you get a puncture in the 21” you may be stuck at a shop for a while waiting on replacement tires to come in. 19” tires are far more available. - when I camp out in mine I have an iPad mount that attaches to the glass ceiling. It s nice to watch movies in bed. | https: m.youtube.com c LivinginTesla I like watching this channel. Some ideas how he does it. He Started with a 3. Then a y. | 74 | 37 | 9,581 |
uarm4v | 213 | Older Model S owners: how did you successfully argue degradation to get a new battery under warranty? My Model S 85 from 2014 has been awesome but I am concerned I ve had 20%+ degradation over the last 7 years. I d prefer to get this replaced under warranty but Tesla refuse to tell me the exact degradation percentage only that “it s within spec for your car s age mileage”. I think it s likely that this is the standard line to avoid warranty replacements. If you ve been in this situation how did you get anywhere? This is in Australia if it matters. EDIT: Battery voltages reported via OBD: https: imgur.com a wTEzOir | The cell voltages you have posted demonstrate cell balance and they look pretty good. I see 0.003 V max difference (maybe 0.0035). That s is really good. | What is the best way to calculate range degradation in an inarguably valid way? I have OBD access if that s of any help. | 134 | 2 | 9,582 |
uarm4v | 213 | Older Model S owners: how did you successfully argue degradation to get a new battery under warranty? My Model S 85 from 2014 has been awesome but I am concerned I ve had 20%+ degradation over the last 7 years. I d prefer to get this replaced under warranty but Tesla refuse to tell me the exact degradation percentage only that “it s within spec for your car s age mileage”. I think it s likely that this is the standard line to avoid warranty replacements. If you ve been in this situation how did you get anywhere? This is in Australia if it matters. EDIT: Battery voltages reported via OBD: https: imgur.com a wTEzOir | The cell voltages you have posted demonstrate cell balance and they look pretty good. I see 0.003 V max difference (maybe 0.0035). That s is really good. | Being Australia you could argue statutory warranty but you probably need to consult a lawyer to get a result. I decided to not go down that path after the sales guy said the autopark was was standard and did not require the full self drive option. This was after the test drive of a car he said didn t have FSD but I later found out did because it had features which which were not standard such and lane change on autopilot. I can live without FSD but I plan on keeping this car 10 years and I don t want to risk getting on some unofficial shitlist with Tesla making getting stuff fixed harder. | 134 | 9 | 9,583 |
uarm4v | 213 | Older Model S owners: how did you successfully argue degradation to get a new battery under warranty? My Model S 85 from 2014 has been awesome but I am concerned I ve had 20%+ degradation over the last 7 years. I d prefer to get this replaced under warranty but Tesla refuse to tell me the exact degradation percentage only that “it s within spec for your car s age mileage”. I think it s likely that this is the standard line to avoid warranty replacements. If you ve been in this situation how did you get anywhere? This is in Australia if it matters. EDIT: Battery voltages reported via OBD: https: imgur.com a wTEzOir | Tesla says 30%+ qualifies for warranty replacement so it will be difficult to get them to replace it. One of the reasons they throttled supercharging a few years back was to protect the batteries against degradation (and from lighting on fire). | The 85 is not cooled properly. So take it to a track run it hard and get your replacement :) Properly 😆 | 140 | 36 | 9,584 |
ub95jr | 42 | I ordered a standard range but I am considering changing my order for the long range. Advice? I ordered a standard range Model 3 on the 21st. Looks like I ll have to wait until August to get it. The more I wait the more I am considering trying to change the order to the long range. I d rather have the fastest supercharger speed increased range and I like AWD. Is it worth it to do this? It barely adds to the range and because I live in the southern US I don t really need the AWD. I have not been assigned a VIN yet. I have ordered the Wall connector for home charging. I was really disappointed to have missed the April 17th cut off for the Mobile connector equipment. Can I even get this changed? Would it help or hurt the delivery time? I m not sure it s worth the cost for my daily driving habits. Basically 56 miles a day M-F. | I disagree with most of the advice here and most of the advice I read when I was researching myself. I originally planned to get a LR but changed to a SR+ which was absolutely the right decision for me. My SR+ does 250 miles in a UK winter. More in summer. I can charge it to 100% daily so that s the range I get daily - it s not too far off 90% of the LR range. And my daily driving is below 250 miles. So for daily driving there is ~no benefit to me. For road trips I usually stop every 3 hours or so which is well within the range of the SR+. And the car charges faster than our rest stops. So again no benefit to the LR. Slightly faster acceleration is nice. And a slightly better sound system too. But neither of those are worth anywhere near £10k in my opinion. | If you live in America and anywhere outside NYC my answer is… YES | 43 | 2 | 9,585 |
ub95jr | 42 | I ordered a standard range but I am considering changing my order for the long range. Advice? I ordered a standard range Model 3 on the 21st. Looks like I ll have to wait until August to get it. The more I wait the more I am considering trying to change the order to the long range. I d rather have the fastest supercharger speed increased range and I like AWD. Is it worth it to do this? It barely adds to the range and because I live in the southern US I don t really need the AWD. I have not been assigned a VIN yet. I have ordered the Wall connector for home charging. I was really disappointed to have missed the April 17th cut off for the Mobile connector equipment. Can I even get this changed? Would it help or hurt the delivery time? I m not sure it s worth the cost for my daily driving habits. Basically 56 miles a day M-F. | I disagree with most of the advice here and most of the advice I read when I was researching myself. I originally planned to get a LR but changed to a SR+ which was absolutely the right decision for me. My SR+ does 250 miles in a UK winter. More in summer. I can charge it to 100% daily so that s the range I get daily - it s not too far off 90% of the LR range. And my daily driving is below 250 miles. So for daily driving there is ~no benefit to me. For road trips I usually stop every 3 hours or so which is well within the range of the SR+. And the car charges faster than our rest stops. So again no benefit to the LR. Slightly faster acceleration is nice. And a slightly better sound system too. But neither of those are worth anywhere near £10k in my opinion. | If your daily commute is more than 100 miles I would go for the LR. | 43 | 3 | 9,586 |
ub95jr | 42 | I ordered a standard range but I am considering changing my order for the long range. Advice? I ordered a standard range Model 3 on the 21st. Looks like I ll have to wait until August to get it. The more I wait the more I am considering trying to change the order to the long range. I d rather have the fastest supercharger speed increased range and I like AWD. Is it worth it to do this? It barely adds to the range and because I live in the southern US I don t really need the AWD. I have not been assigned a VIN yet. I have ordered the Wall connector for home charging. I was really disappointed to have missed the April 17th cut off for the Mobile connector equipment. Can I even get this changed? Would it help or hurt the delivery time? I m not sure it s worth the cost for my daily driving habits. Basically 56 miles a day M-F. | I disagree with most of the advice here and most of the advice I read when I was researching myself. I originally planned to get a LR but changed to a SR+ which was absolutely the right decision for me. My SR+ does 250 miles in a UK winter. More in summer. I can charge it to 100% daily so that s the range I get daily - it s not too far off 90% of the LR range. And my daily driving is below 250 miles. So for daily driving there is ~no benefit to me. For road trips I usually stop every 3 hours or so which is well within the range of the SR+. And the car charges faster than our rest stops. So again no benefit to the LR. Slightly faster acceleration is nice. And a slightly better sound system too. But neither of those are worth anywhere near £10k in my opinion. | +9 for range | 43 | 5 | 9,587 |
uc3khu | 246 | PSA: If you re hesitant about your Tesla order or hesitant about buying one go test drive a Tesla. It will make the decision for you. tl dr If you re not sure about your Tesla order or are hesitant about getting a Tesla due to other competition in the car market go test drive a Tesla. The test drive will make the decision for you. If you can t seem to book a test drive [on their official website](https: www.tesla.com drive) call your nearby dealership and they ll help you book. & #x200B A few weeks ago I placed an order for a Tesla Model 3 Long Range. I was a little hesitant about it because the price has been increasing there s competition in the market from the BMW i4 and Polestar 2 and Tesla no longer qualifies for an EV credit. And my parents always want me to make sure that I m getting a good deal on something. & #x200B I did all the research watched tons of YouTube videos (including ones that state the BMW i4 is serious competition for the Model 3) and browsed here r TeslaModel3 and r TeslaModel3Delivery a lot. From doing all that market research I felt a bit hesitant about my order. Thinking stuff like hmm the i4 has a heads-up display but this doesn t lots of posts stating how stiff the Tesla is BMW has a better interior etc. etc. [Example of a YouTube Video](https: youtu.be 7R3Sf5IqB84) & #x200B While doing all this research I was trying to book a Tesla test drive but all test drives [on the Tesla website](https: www.tesla.com drive) were fully booked for my area. I was finally able to book a test drive appointment at a Tesla 1.5 hours from me. I thought that I should at least call my nearby dealership \\~10 minutes away to see if they have anything even though the website didn t show any openings. Sure enough my nearby dealership was able to book me an appointment and cancel my far away one. & #x200B Today was my appointment and I have to say: the experience was mind-blowing. I was greeted by the friendliest people who love working for Tesla and they treat you with respect. It felt completely opposite of the BMW dealership that I test drove the i4 with. The BMW dealership was acting like I should be grateful that I get to test drive their i4. I told the Tesla rep that I had placed an order and that I was a little hesitant all he said was Test drive the car. It will make the decision for you. He showed us all the bells and whistles (trunk frunk mirrors steering wheel etc.) and told us to have fun. He said Have fun you can do the test drive by yourself. Just drive to the pre-programmed Work destination 15 minutes away and drive back. I really enjoyed the fact that Tesla lets you test drive for 30 minutes compared to the 5-10 minutes I got with the i4. I test drove a Model 3 Performance. The drive was incredible: the car was blazing fast comfortable in the back sleek and smooth through the roads. My parents said they were very comfortable in the back even when I was flooring it. The car felt just perfect I didn t miss the heads up display or Sport Comfort modes from the BMW at all. I don t regret my order at all. & #x200B Anyways long story short if you re hesitant like I was call your dealership to book a test drive or do it online. You won t regret it. | I test drove the Model 3 and the Model Y. Same ….. decision made by the test drive …. Y for me …. | Agree…I have been on the fence for 4 years. Test drove one 4 times in one week and that did it. I have had regrets or second thoughts and my wife reminds me…the test drive is what sold me. | 55 | 3 | 9,588 |
uc3khu | 246 | PSA: If you re hesitant about your Tesla order or hesitant about buying one go test drive a Tesla. It will make the decision for you. tl dr If you re not sure about your Tesla order or are hesitant about getting a Tesla due to other competition in the car market go test drive a Tesla. The test drive will make the decision for you. If you can t seem to book a test drive [on their official website](https: www.tesla.com drive) call your nearby dealership and they ll help you book. & #x200B A few weeks ago I placed an order for a Tesla Model 3 Long Range. I was a little hesitant about it because the price has been increasing there s competition in the market from the BMW i4 and Polestar 2 and Tesla no longer qualifies for an EV credit. And my parents always want me to make sure that I m getting a good deal on something. & #x200B I did all the research watched tons of YouTube videos (including ones that state the BMW i4 is serious competition for the Model 3) and browsed here r TeslaModel3 and r TeslaModel3Delivery a lot. From doing all that market research I felt a bit hesitant about my order. Thinking stuff like hmm the i4 has a heads-up display but this doesn t lots of posts stating how stiff the Tesla is BMW has a better interior etc. etc. [Example of a YouTube Video](https: youtu.be 7R3Sf5IqB84) & #x200B While doing all this research I was trying to book a Tesla test drive but all test drives [on the Tesla website](https: www.tesla.com drive) were fully booked for my area. I was finally able to book a test drive appointment at a Tesla 1.5 hours from me. I thought that I should at least call my nearby dealership \\~10 minutes away to see if they have anything even though the website didn t show any openings. Sure enough my nearby dealership was able to book me an appointment and cancel my far away one. & #x200B Today was my appointment and I have to say: the experience was mind-blowing. I was greeted by the friendliest people who love working for Tesla and they treat you with respect. It felt completely opposite of the BMW dealership that I test drove the i4 with. The BMW dealership was acting like I should be grateful that I get to test drive their i4. I told the Tesla rep that I had placed an order and that I was a little hesitant all he said was Test drive the car. It will make the decision for you. He showed us all the bells and whistles (trunk frunk mirrors steering wheel etc.) and told us to have fun. He said Have fun you can do the test drive by yourself. Just drive to the pre-programmed Work destination 15 minutes away and drive back. I really enjoyed the fact that Tesla lets you test drive for 30 minutes compared to the 5-10 minutes I got with the i4. I test drove a Model 3 Performance. The drive was incredible: the car was blazing fast comfortable in the back sleek and smooth through the roads. My parents said they were very comfortable in the back even when I was flooring it. The car felt just perfect I didn t miss the heads up display or Sport Comfort modes from the BMW at all. I don t regret my order at all. & #x200B Anyways long story short if you re hesitant like I was call your dealership to book a test drive or do it online. You won t regret it. | I d rephrase that. Unless you re able to afford one do not - under any circumstances - test drive a Tesla. The Tesla grin is a real thing. | Agree…I have been on the fence for 4 years. Test drove one 4 times in one week and that did it. I have had regrets or second thoughts and my wife reminds me…the test drive is what sold me. | 53 | 3 | 9,589 |
uc3khu | 246 | PSA: If you re hesitant about your Tesla order or hesitant about buying one go test drive a Tesla. It will make the decision for you. tl dr If you re not sure about your Tesla order or are hesitant about getting a Tesla due to other competition in the car market go test drive a Tesla. The test drive will make the decision for you. If you can t seem to book a test drive [on their official website](https: www.tesla.com drive) call your nearby dealership and they ll help you book. & #x200B A few weeks ago I placed an order for a Tesla Model 3 Long Range. I was a little hesitant about it because the price has been increasing there s competition in the market from the BMW i4 and Polestar 2 and Tesla no longer qualifies for an EV credit. And my parents always want me to make sure that I m getting a good deal on something. & #x200B I did all the research watched tons of YouTube videos (including ones that state the BMW i4 is serious competition for the Model 3) and browsed here r TeslaModel3 and r TeslaModel3Delivery a lot. From doing all that market research I felt a bit hesitant about my order. Thinking stuff like hmm the i4 has a heads-up display but this doesn t lots of posts stating how stiff the Tesla is BMW has a better interior etc. etc. [Example of a YouTube Video](https: youtu.be 7R3Sf5IqB84) & #x200B While doing all this research I was trying to book a Tesla test drive but all test drives [on the Tesla website](https: www.tesla.com drive) were fully booked for my area. I was finally able to book a test drive appointment at a Tesla 1.5 hours from me. I thought that I should at least call my nearby dealership \\~10 minutes away to see if they have anything even though the website didn t show any openings. Sure enough my nearby dealership was able to book me an appointment and cancel my far away one. & #x200B Today was my appointment and I have to say: the experience was mind-blowing. I was greeted by the friendliest people who love working for Tesla and they treat you with respect. It felt completely opposite of the BMW dealership that I test drove the i4 with. The BMW dealership was acting like I should be grateful that I get to test drive their i4. I told the Tesla rep that I had placed an order and that I was a little hesitant all he said was Test drive the car. It will make the decision for you. He showed us all the bells and whistles (trunk frunk mirrors steering wheel etc.) and told us to have fun. He said Have fun you can do the test drive by yourself. Just drive to the pre-programmed Work destination 15 minutes away and drive back. I really enjoyed the fact that Tesla lets you test drive for 30 minutes compared to the 5-10 minutes I got with the i4. I test drove a Model 3 Performance. The drive was incredible: the car was blazing fast comfortable in the back sleek and smooth through the roads. My parents said they were very comfortable in the back even when I was flooring it. The car felt just perfect I didn t miss the heads up display or Sport Comfort modes from the BMW at all. I don t regret my order at all. & #x200B Anyways long story short if you re hesitant like I was call your dealership to book a test drive or do it online. You won t regret it. | I d rephrase that. Unless you re able to afford one do not - under any circumstances - test drive a Tesla. The Tesla grin is a real thing. | These sort of comments should be followed up by a healthy and then research the service and sales team in your area. I will never dispute the product. The service and sales are just awful like so bad so bad. This is not like oh let me apply the standard only complainers come to Reddit filter bad. So if your center checks out and your ok with my robot text only everything then welcome to the fold. I feel like these disclaimers are not given often enough and I get a lot if I had only known comments in my club. | 53 | 3 | 9,590 |
ucezvv | 134 | Tesla will not let you test drive a used car before buying? I tried to setup an appointment for my parents to test drive and buy a Model X from a location. The person on the phone said you can not test drive the used vehicles they are selling. They have all been inspected and certified so nothing is wrong with them but they will not give 100k plus for something they have never even sat in let alone not driven. I told the person they must be misinformed or just lying to me. They said people buy them all the time without ever driving one. Is this true? They are very hard to find on the used market outside of Tesla. We did find one got my dad to drive it and liked it. But by the time my mom could get there it was sold. She is 5 1 and has a hard time finding a vehicle she is comfortable to drive. She would never just approve of something without driving it. Yes she could sit in a new one but there are none of those in the area to even sit in. How can I get her a test drive in a Model X? EDIT: Thanks for all the responses. I guess we will use Turo and go from there. | Rent one on Turo probably your best bet. Agree it s crazy you can t test drive before you buy but it is what it is. | It s probably a good thing your parents want to test sit and drive. I don t blame them for that. Tesla used car buying is complicated by lack of car-specific photos and the shipping steps. I d think they d let you test out cars at a specific site but who knows. Things may also be complicated by the state of the auto market as a whole. As for the cars: The seats have gone through several changes over the years. Some of those versions are uncomfortable for me others are perfectly fine. Front half shaft shudder issues will only show up under hard acceleration. As for being certified ...that s not been the reported experience in recent years. At one point they did have a CPO program last I heard it was simply a used car program. Also do not assume FSD or FUSC will carry over on a purchase from Tesla or other dealer. Tesla has been known to revoke those even after a sale. And do not buy a salvage Tesla because Tesla will excommunicate the car. | 101 | 9 | 9,591 |
ucezvv | 134 | Tesla will not let you test drive a used car before buying? I tried to setup an appointment for my parents to test drive and buy a Model X from a location. The person on the phone said you can not test drive the used vehicles they are selling. They have all been inspected and certified so nothing is wrong with them but they will not give 100k plus for something they have never even sat in let alone not driven. I told the person they must be misinformed or just lying to me. They said people buy them all the time without ever driving one. Is this true? They are very hard to find on the used market outside of Tesla. We did find one got my dad to drive it and liked it. But by the time my mom could get there it was sold. She is 5 1 and has a hard time finding a vehicle she is comfortable to drive. She would never just approve of something without driving it. Yes she could sit in a new one but there are none of those in the area to even sit in. How can I get her a test drive in a Model X? EDIT: Thanks for all the responses. I guess we will use Turo and go from there. | Rent one on Turo probably your best bet. Agree it s crazy you can t test drive before you buy but it is what it is. | This is true. I bought a used Model X from Tesla back in November 2020. When you re buying used from Tesla you ve paying the order fee to look at the vehicle and determine if you want to buy it. In my case I paid the order fee+shipping to have the vehicle shipped from Burbank CA to Tampa FL to buy it sight unseen. As I understand it from conversations I ve had with the service staff the used vehicle inventory is same fleet that they use as loaners so they don t have it on hand because odds are that someone else is driving it around or something like that. There was a loaner Model X I got from the Tampa FL service center one time that had a QR code in it that side Like this? Scan this to buy it . I didn t but that kind of reinforces the statements that the service guy had. It s also one of the reasons why *any time* I get a loaner from Tesla I always make a list of issues with the vehicle when I return it because someone else is going to buy it and it s better if they don t have those issues. All that said you do get 3 days or 100mi to look over the vehicle and set up a service appointment. If you want to test drive a Model X just see if they have a new one in stock and test that one out. If that fails see if they have a Model S. But yeah I paid $70 000+$2 000+Order fee which I think was $500 to buy a Model X sight unseen. With that information in mind note that the list of service items I ve had to cycle through on my Model X has been extensive to say the least and that it has been in service on average once a month since I got it in November 2020. The first quarter of 2022 is the first time I ve not yet had to bring it in for service however it has an appointment this Saturday for additional issues including: * Half shafts need replacing again * Control arms I think are about to go * Instrumentation cluster has burn in * My 1 year used warranty is about to expire and given the litany of service issues they ve agreed to give it a once over for common issues to make sure I m solid before the warranty expires in 1 500mi or a couple months depending on travel. | 101 | 69 | 9,592 |
uct63q | 179 | Supercharger information updates in Tesla App v 4.8.0 Some additional screens I noticed in the new iOS update for the Tesla app today. When using the location feature in the app you can now see the 10 closest superchargers instead of just 4. Additionally each supercharger near you also includes the max power (75 150 250kw) and the amenities in the surrounding area. [List of all nearby chargers](https: i.imgur.com cMvE74n.jpg) [Specific charger information and amenities](https: i.imgur.com V77Ho3i.jpg) | Wow that s a lot of superchargers in a (seemingly) compact area! Don t think I ve seen more than 3 in a 30km radius | Hmm… just went to check on mine and the menu is just completely gone. Not even showing closest 3 chargers. Just a map showing the car location. Also no supercharger pins in showing on the map. But a good feature to have! Also confirmed I m on latest app software. | 32 | 2 | 9,593 |
udv4mk | 49 | Destination Chargers - Any Help Appreciated My company would like to install Tesla destination chargers. We have several people who own Tesla s and would like to offer this to the employees and the area in general. I have filled out the form on the Tesla website several times and have never gotten a response. I must be doing something incorrectly. Any help from the community or from Tesla would be appreciated. | I think you are better off buying them yourself at this point. The cheapest option might be the Tesla j1772 option. It supports all current EVs (Tesla and otherwise) and is pretty robust despite a fairly low cost. If you want to charge money to offset the cost chargepoint is the most common option. Blink has revenue sharing options with low up front cost but blink is terrible. | I m trying to do this at my condo but can t figure out if the functionality currently exists to charge per use. | 41 | 2 | 9,594 |
ue6amb | 208 | Model 3 a good car for driving a lot of miles per year? I am looking to purchase a model 3 long range but drive 30kish miles a year. Haven t been able to find much research to see if they hold up well under a lot of miles or not any help is much appreciated. | The more you drive the better a car it is :-) The charging network may matter depending on where you drive. AP likely helps too. And fuel and service savings will add up faster. Make sure the seats are comfy for you. | June will be two years with ours and we have 46k miles right now. I ll be driving from VA to FL and back next month. | 321 | 5 | 9,595 |
ue6amb | 208 | Model 3 a good car for driving a lot of miles per year? I am looking to purchase a model 3 long range but drive 30kish miles a year. Haven t been able to find much research to see if they hold up well under a lot of miles or not any help is much appreciated. | Yes it s fantastic for this. Almost zero maintenance except brakes and tires. Get a good 30amp charger in your home. You ll never go back. | If that s 150 miles a day x 200 days a year and you recharge at home overnight when electricity is dirt cheap you ll save a boatload of money. The seats are really comfy too. As for longevity the M3 Long Range (NCA battery chemistry) starts with 358 mile range and can be expected to have 70% range remaining after 1000 cycles (358 000 miles) which means you can expect to have 250 miles of range after driving the car for 12 years. M3 Standard Range (LFP chemistry) starts at 267 mile range and can be expected to go 3000 cycles (800 000 miles) so you d have 187 mile range after driving the car for 26 years. The motors and gearbox as I understand it should last about a million miles. | 73 | 2 | 9,596 |
ue6amb | 208 | Model 3 a good car for driving a lot of miles per year? I am looking to purchase a model 3 long range but drive 30kish miles a year. Haven t been able to find much research to see if they hold up well under a lot of miles or not any help is much appreciated. | Yes it s fantastic for this. Almost zero maintenance except brakes and tires. Get a good 30amp charger in your home. You ll never go back. | I ve had mine for 2.5 years and have put on 81k miles. It s still like new. | 73 | 3 | 9,597 |
uemv1r | 100 | Mobile Connector now includes 14-50 adapter & #x200B https: preview.redd.it j70235rl7hw81.png?width=1021& format=png& auto=webp& s=bf8c2c257951f1a81523e29a6c6dd7cf2b40ebe9 # Vehicle orders placed on or after April 28 2022 will not include a Mobile Connector with delivery. Mobile Connector orders with both NEMA 5-15 Adapter and NEMA 14-50 Adapter will begin shipping in August 2022. | Yay they put back in the thing that was free and included initially. Now you just have to pay for the rest of it. | 100% worth it now might buy a second one just to have a complete set for when my next tesla is ordered. | 33 | 2 | 9,598 |
ufm88w | 80 | 2022 Q2 production Model 3 matrix headlights removed? Seeing reports of latest Model 3 coming out of the factory with the old reflector LED headlights instead of the upgraded matrix LED units. Anyone else can confirm this is happening? [TMC Model 3 LR AWD Waiting Room](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 6661583 ) | Statistics show no one uses the features of the Matrix LED s. So we have gone back to old style headlights. - Elon probably. | Only performance has been getting them I thought. | 106 | 6 | 9,599 |
ufm88w | 80 | 2022 Q2 production Model 3 matrix headlights removed? Seeing reports of latest Model 3 coming out of the factory with the old reflector LED headlights instead of the upgraded matrix LED units. Anyone else can confirm this is happening? [TMC Model 3 LR AWD Waiting Room](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 6661583 ) | Statistics show no one uses the features of the Matrix LED s. So we have gone back to old style headlights. - Elon probably. | Supply chain problems? | 106 | 26 | 9,600 |
ufm88w | 80 | 2022 Q2 production Model 3 matrix headlights removed? Seeing reports of latest Model 3 coming out of the factory with the old reflector LED headlights instead of the upgraded matrix LED units. Anyone else can confirm this is happening? [TMC Model 3 LR AWD Waiting Room](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 6661583 ) | This is what supply chain hell looks like. I just wish they d be more transparent about it. I am still pretty unhappy about not including the mobile connector but the extended lead times on them at order show it s supply chain constrained as well. All is not well in the electronics industry. I thought things were improving I guess not. | I just texted my SA and asked about my M3P that s hopefully arriving in May and was told they ll check to see if it comes with the Matrix lights once I get my VIN. | 36 | 2 | 9,601 |
ug443j | 75 | Supercharging has gotten extremely expensive in recent months Supercharging has gotten extremely expensive in recent months to the point where I ve not used a SuC once since I got my Model 3 in November. Don t get me wrong the SuC network is awesome but so is the public CCS HighPowerCharger infacstrucutre in Germany now too. And especially since I can just plug-in into an Aral Pulse HPC or Allego one which is directly next to the supercharger while paying nearly half of that I personally don t see a reason to even consider superchargers anymore and that despite Tesla claiming that they don t want to make huge profits with it. In Germany supercharger prices currently are between 0.50€ and 0.52€ per kWh. This is insane. Yes energy prices went up and you can currently only get around 0.30€ per kWh at home but still I don t think Tesla needs to charge that much. At Allego you can charge for as low as 0.30€ per kWh when using the right card on Aral for even cheaper. And even the well known cards and apps charge only 0.35€ - 0.45€ per kWh no matter where you plug-in. If those providers manage to be that much cheaper than Tesla without even using some profit from the cars Tesla sells I don t understand why Tesla is so ridiculous expensive now. A year ago supercharger were half as expensive and at that time those actually were always priced lower than the copmpetition now it is exactly the opposite way. & #x200B I now wonder if that s also the case for other European countries? I know that in the US you are basically limited to SuCs only as Tesla s there have a proprietary connector instead of CCS but maybe you can also look around and see whether the other chargers are less expensive? I hoipe for you that you will get an CCS adapter at one point only having a monopoly as charging network in the US isn t good even if the current networks in the US outside of tesla are just trash. | Germany is one of the worlds largest importers of natural gas (95% imported). Of that over 55% was coming from Russia. While it is only about 15% of Germany s overall energy usage that Russia Ukraine thing has got to be effecting your energy prices. | California has about 40% of all the EVs in the US. price per kwh is within 5 cents of you guys. & #x200B https: electrek.co 2022 04 13 tesla-changes-off-peak-hours-superchargers-california-encourage-owners-charge-later This week Tesla announced an important change to its off-peak hours in California its biggest market: *Starting April 12 2022 off-peak hours will change at California Supercharger locations. Charge for less at select Superchargers before 11 AM and after 9 PM. Tap the Supercharger map pin in your in-car touchscreen to view specific rates and eligible sites. Navigate to your destination using Trip Planner and your battery will automatically precondition before you arrive.* The company basically moved the window two hours later in the day as it used to start at 7 p.m. Rates are different depending on the station **but they can often charge around $0.48 per kWh during peak hours versus $0.24 during off-peak hours.** The new hours will encourage people who can charge later to wait and free up some traffic at the Supercharger stations during busier hours. It will also bring Tesla additional revenue which it can use to increase Supercharger capacity where needed. & #x200B I can imagine US prices going up a little once the network is open to everyone.. what s the rate for non Teslas over there? & #x200B **Tesla Superchargers Are Now Open To All EVs (In Europe)** [https: cleantechnica.com 2022 02 01 tesla-opens-more-superchargers-in-europe-to-other-ev-drivers ](https: cleantechnica.com 2022 02 01 tesla-opens-more-superchargers-in-europe-to-other-ev-drivers ) | 52 | 8 | 9,602 |
ug443j | 75 | Supercharging has gotten extremely expensive in recent months Supercharging has gotten extremely expensive in recent months to the point where I ve not used a SuC once since I got my Model 3 in November. Don t get me wrong the SuC network is awesome but so is the public CCS HighPowerCharger infacstrucutre in Germany now too. And especially since I can just plug-in into an Aral Pulse HPC or Allego one which is directly next to the supercharger while paying nearly half of that I personally don t see a reason to even consider superchargers anymore and that despite Tesla claiming that they don t want to make huge profits with it. In Germany supercharger prices currently are between 0.50€ and 0.52€ per kWh. This is insane. Yes energy prices went up and you can currently only get around 0.30€ per kWh at home but still I don t think Tesla needs to charge that much. At Allego you can charge for as low as 0.30€ per kWh when using the right card on Aral for even cheaper. And even the well known cards and apps charge only 0.35€ - 0.45€ per kWh no matter where you plug-in. If those providers manage to be that much cheaper than Tesla without even using some profit from the cars Tesla sells I don t understand why Tesla is so ridiculous expensive now. A year ago supercharger were half as expensive and at that time those actually were always priced lower than the copmpetition now it is exactly the opposite way. & #x200B I now wonder if that s also the case for other European countries? I know that in the US you are basically limited to SuCs only as Tesla s there have a proprietary connector instead of CCS but maybe you can also look around and see whether the other chargers are less expensive? I hoipe for you that you will get an CCS adapter at one point only having a monopoly as charging network in the US isn t good even if the current networks in the US outside of tesla are just trash. | Germany is one of the worlds largest importers of natural gas (95% imported). Of that over 55% was coming from Russia. While it is only about 15% of Germany s overall energy usage that Russia Ukraine thing has got to be effecting your energy prices. | Pretty normal in West Eu here in the Netherlands it went from the cheapest non-Tesla charger (12€ monthly sub)(vw id4 here) to the same-ish as Fastned (0.45€ kwh with 12€ monthly sub). They are just following the ‘trend . | 52 | 12 | 9,603 |
ugxrw8 | 592 | Tesla mobile service is incredible I got a new MYLR last month someone backed into it and cracked one of the rear reflectors. I filed a service request with Tesla via the app made an appointment a service person shows up with a mobile repair car replaces the reflector and they charge my card on file for the service. The price was pretty low and the convenience of this was off the charts high. I feel like everything Tesla does is on a different planet from sales to the car itself to the service process and I m incredibly pleased. I had no idea how much I was missing not having a Tesla I continue to be surprised by everything about it. That s all just wanted to share how great an experience this was. | I love mobile used them 3 times and was a great every time! | Totally agree. Fantastic | 83 | 50 | 9,604 |
uhfkdv | 27 | Feature Request Megathread Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | Official Tesla supercharger queuing system When it is detected that super chargers are full like it does now in order to tell you there s a wait. Activate Queue mode In queue mode when you approach the super charger station (0.5 mi away?) you are prompted in the car that this super charger currently has a queue and given a button to join the queue. When it is your turn you get a notification in the car and on the app telling you which charger number to use. You have 5 min to start charging or you lose your slot. If someone else tries to charge there when it is your turn they can t charge. If you drive away you are automatically dequeued. You can manually dequeue. Once the queue is complete and there are free chargers deactivate queue mode. Super chargers operate normally when not fully booked (you drive up and plug in) | CarPlay. | 63 | 2 | 9,605 |
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