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Hot outlet reducing charge speed | I received the NEMA 10-30 adapter for my UMC today and tried it for the first time. Initially I was charging at 24 amps and all was well. Sometime later I checked the app and noticed that my estimated charge time had doubled and my current had dropped down to 12 amps. I disconnected everything waited for a bit then reconnected. This time I was sitting in the car when I heard a chime sound and noticed a warning on the screen saying “hot outlet reducing charge speed”. I m not especially surprised that the outlet may have an issue — most of the junction boxes I ve opened in this house have had some kind of awful wiring inside them. I ve never used this particular outlet because we have a gas dryer but it is a bit loose in the wall and has been painted over. It s also installed upside down relative to the UMC so there is some extra strain on the short cord for the adapter. I was already planning to replace the outlet with a brand new one and install it right side up. My question is whether or not that is likely to fix the hot outlet warning or whether that could be caused by poor wiring between the panel and that outlet? Would my time be better spent calling electricians to get a quote on running a 60 amp circuit out to the garage for either a 14-50 outlet or a Tesla wall charger? Relevant photos: https: imgur.com a U2RnCG5 | 2018-05-11 07:33:03 | 9 | Don t wait to replace it. Do it today. You can burn your house down:) | 2018-05-11 07:57:18 | 32 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 8,006 |
Recent Calls not syncing with iOS 10.2? | I m seeing Recent Calls not syncing with iOS 10.2? If I forget and re-pair it works ONCE. Anyone else seeing this? My phone pairs and works fine but Recent Calls and Contacts are a week+ old. | 2017-01-23 18:53:27 | 5 | Works here | 2017-01-24 14:00:05 | 2 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 16,216 |
Replaced Model S door handle micro switch - here s what the online guides don t tell you in case you want to do it yourself too | All my door handles were presenting but the rear passenger side wasn t opening. After a few quick searches I learned that it s because the original connections tend to break easily from the motion of the handle moving out. I think Tesla charges > $350 for the repair and I found the part for $79 online. So I researched how to replace it myself read through and watched several guides for which I m very thankful for. All went pretty much according to plan I knew I would struggle with getting the plastic clips off and I knew getting the the four bolts would be tough. But what I didn t plan for was how to get the handle back in with the car unlocked and the window up with the door open. The handle needs to be retracted before you can wiggle it out of the door frame. I had to close the door and lock the car while I was inside after I removed the panel then I could detach the pigtail to the handle so it wouldn t present when I opened the door again. Also when the door is opened the window is down slightly obstructing the two top bolts. So again I shut the door and crawled inside the car to remove those. The other thing I didn t count on was that the pigtail was clipped around the frame with plastic zip ties anchored to the door frame. I ended up just cutting those and then replacing them with my own. The actual repair to the handle itself was simple and fast. The new pigtail part has extended rubber over the wire to prevent it from breaking and the wire comes out of the top where there is more room for it to flex when the handle moves. I purchased the pigtail off Amazon from a third party. I was very pleased with their design changes. Overall disassembly took me much longer than I hoped and was very physically demanding. Having the right tools such as long drivers to get into the tight spots is very necessary. In retrospect I think it was probably worth it to take it to Tesla to have them do it. If anyone is planning on taking on this task themselves and wants to know more please feel free to PM me. | 2020-10-23 23:04:28 | 47 | Have done several of these-- you can trick car into locking with door open (and retracting handle) by just flipping the latch on the door. Easy peezy. | 2020-10-24 01:30:19 | 16 | Model 3 phone key issues | 16,448 |
Tesla Camp Mode Troubles | Whenever I use camp mode it seems that the HVAC is always on i.e when set to 65 it heats over 65 then cools down to 65 in an endless cycle and never turns off... In my mind how I would like it to work (to conserve energy) is if I set it to 65 it will only heat the car to 65 and then turn off. Am I crazy? or is the lack of a Heat or Cool only mode a necessity to make camp mode more efficient. | 2020-12-17 06:53:30 | 6 | I used it for the first time last weekend. It seemed to just blow a constant temperature and a constant fan speed the whole time regardless of the actual temperature in the car. I think your idea sounds like a good way for it to operate. | 2020-12-17 08:15:20 | 3 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 18,446 |
Do you have complete FSD? | Discussing with friends fellow Tesla owners that less than half cars have FSD the stats we have no way to claim. Looking to get some perspective with the sub here. Answer for your Tesla car. [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll kmo2fq) | 2020-12-29 22:02:34 | 12 | Curious results so far. Guessing some bias in there as people buying into FSD are perhaps more likely to be here and more likely to answer the poll. That said I expected people with FSD to be less than a third. | 2020-12-29 22:15:52 | 28 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 5,276 |
Giga factory and potential range increase for model s | Interested in opinions about the possibility of a major range increase once they start making their own cells. I would define Major as something above 25%. Any idea as to when they will be using their own cells? I am asking because I have a 3 year old S with 120 000 miles on it and am considering getting a new one for all the new improvements. | 2016-11-12 20:36:38 | 5 | TLDR: 2170 cells could enable 115 kWh but next pack is likely to be still 100 kWh. There are 3 reasons for this: 1. Look at [this](http: i.imgur.com lwl4Tr7.jpg) image. The bump section in the front exists because there are two modules stacked on top of each other. They couldn t fit all the modules side by side. Therefore even though technically it is possible to manufacture a 115 kWh battery pack with the 2170 cells it is not possible unless they keep the stacked modules section. However getting rid of that will reduce manufacturing time cost and weight. 2. Tesla has confirmed that the Model 3 base model will have a smaller battery than 60 kWh ([Source](https: electrek.co 2016 04 26 tesla-model-3-battery-pack-cost-kwh )). The most likely scenario is the Model 3 will have 55 and 75 kWh versions. The longest-range version of the Model 3 is likely to have a range close to the S100D. Releasing a larger battery for the Model S would increase the gap. 3. On twitter Elon indicated that a larger battery is not coming for a while ([Source](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 776677760039133185)). However because the new 100 kWh pack with 2170 cells will be around 20% lighter that will have a positive effect on range handling and acceleration. | 2016-11-12 21:30:26 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,208 |
[IMPORTANT] Sign this petition to make EU allow all self driving features to be available in here. | http: chng.it wMcn8XrBFN Tesla can t push full Autopilot features and will not be able to offer FSD to cars in Europe as soon as to other regions due to regulations. Tesla already pushed an updated Autopilot in Europe that scales back on a couple of functions in order to comply with new regulations. The changes require faster lane changes and limit how far you can turn the steering wheel on Autosteer. It had to be dialed back in order to comply with the new UN ECE R79 regulation on driver assistance systems. Customers in EU basically enjoy less features than people across the world and it will only get worse once FSD becomes available even though the cost of those features are not aligned with what you get Together we can make a difference. | 2019-12-27 08:17:18 | 407 | There s already a petition going on for this for a while now it has about 13 5k votes already... https: secure.avaaz.org en community_petitions UNECE_Stop_crippling_Tesla_Autopilot_in_Europe Please watch this video on the progress (this guy is talking to the legislator(s) who are meeting about this in januari) https: youtu.be jZAH-pL7yIA | 2019-12-27 10:25:50 | 50 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 25,068 |
How to change lanes in Autopilot without „Enhanced Autopilot“? | About to buy a Tesla Model 3 but I‘m not sure about buying the „Enhanced Autopilot“ upgrade. I tried it in a test drive but the automatic lane changing didn t work as well as I hoped (maybe because I didn t know I had to move the wheel a little bit in the direction?!) My question is: WITHOUT enhanced Autopilot how would I change lanes in “regular” Autopilot mode? More precisely: when I set the turn signal and move lanes manually does the car quit Autopilot so I have to activate it again after every lane change? Or is it quite the same as with automatic lane changing except that it doesn t do it automatically? Thanks for any answers 🙂 Edit: If that s relevant: I m in Germany. | 2021-09-12 20:07:50 | 12 | Automatic lane changes are a feature of EAP and FSD. Lane changes are triggered by fully pressing the turn indicator. You change lanes manually when using Autopilot by disabling Autopilot. | 2021-09-12 20:23:19 | 42 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 8,571 |
Factory Visit | I was browsing the Tesla Web site and saw this : [Factory Visit](http: i.imgur.com p8kq8gO.png) They are saying that a visit of the factory is scheduled if you buy a Tesla. I was curious to know if any Redditors did the tour. How was it ? | 2014-07-22 12:07:28 | 14 | The factory tour is a great experience so if you live in the bay area I highly recommend picking up your car from in Fremont and taking the tour. Interesting tidbit about my tour: Elon Musk happened to be at the factory that day so when we finished the tour he was waiting in the main showroom. He even autographed our cars :D | 2014-07-22 17:10:24 | 10 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 6,331 |
Tire wear - AWD vs RWD - Is there a big difference? | I m considering either waiting for the TM3 with AWD or just getting the standard RWD version sooner. But as where other questions concerning AWD vs RWD have to do with traction on rain and snow I don t really care about that since I live in sunny SoCal. My concern is more along the lines of performance and tire wear. I plan to get the base wheels with all season tires and I really want to know if there are any Model S owners who have had both the RWD and AWD versions of the Model S. - Did you notice more even tire wear? - Is AWD really that noticeable when doing things like accelerating through a corner? Does it make the car feel more glued ? - Is AWD worth the frunk space penalty? - Is it worth the money? Driving a Rav4 EV with FWD I can make the tires chirp going as fast as 25-30 mph. The torque on EV s is pretty ridiculous and I drive with a heavy foot. I feel like RWD will probably be sufficient but I m just curious as to whether AWD is just marginally better or if it s a dramatic difference. | 2017-09-01 18:56:24 | 5 | Very even tire wear on my P85D. There have even been occasions when I ve come in for a rotation and they basically said they didn t need to because there was so little difference (they did it anyway). Got almost 50k miles from my first set currently up to 28k more on the second set for about 78k total (19 OEMs) [Edit: wording to make it clear I didn t get 78k on a single set] | 2017-09-01 19:19:14 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,243 |
Model 3 has about 10 000 unique parts. | I have seen this comment in several articles now. How does the part count of the Model 3 stack up against a traditional ICE or even other BEV s? What about the S and X? I would think with the minimalist interior that would drop a lot of parts and of course with out a gas engine that also drops a lot of parts. | 2017-08-01 00:06:45 | 7 | http: www.toyota.co.jp en kids faq d 01 04 | 2017-08-01 01:14:31 | 2 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 12,185 |
To people complaining about the 1500$ upfront requirement for FSD subscription: It s an unsustainable model to give $1 500 hardware to people in exchange for $199. | It s pretty obvious that Tesla can t give you a free upgrade just because you subscribe to FSD. Otherwise everyone who owns a pre HW3 model would subscribe just for one month to get a free computer upgrade and increase the value of their car. People who bought FSD should get the hardware upgrade for free that was part of the deal. But it was never said that Tesla will upgrade your FSD hardware for free if you subscribe to it. There are more than 1 000 000 pre HW3 Tesla on the road. Did you expect Tesla to shell out (1500 -199 )x 1 000 000 = 1.3 billion $ ? | 2021-07-21 00:42:01 | 120 | I have a car with the FSD computer but I understand why earlier owners would be bothered…. Tesla said - [All Tesla Cars Being Produced ***Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware*** (from October 2016)](https: www.tesla.com blog all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware). Seems self explanatory and it s still on Tesla s website. So if “All Tesla Cars Being Produced (since oct 2016) Have Full Self-Driving Hardware” the. What s the $1500 charge for? | 2021-07-21 01:04:56 | 353 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 21,271 |
I ve heard rumors of potential built-in dashcams with the use of autodriving monitor cams. What s the deal with these? | From what I know nothing of the kind has been implemented but the hardware is there and it doesn t seem very difficult to imagine it being possible in the future if the car system can output video via say the USB port. Are there any rumors of such? | 2017-07-31 10:53:04 | 13 | This top-down view for parking and CarPlay Android Auto are missing features without justifiable reasons. Perhaps to avoid liabilities licensing fees dependencies to other companies. No one knows. | 2017-07-31 11:43:53 | 10 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 9,268 |
Slacker Pro | I decided to try out Slacker Premium today after not being able to get any concrete answers about how it would behave in the car app. I ve read differing reports from other owners saying that it works completely as expected Slacker themselves told me it wouldn t work at all so I thought I d better just try it myself. I m going to put my impressions here to hopefully save anyone else the trouble and money if it s not going to do what they want. **What I was most hoping for** The ability to play any song I wanted (via search) without restriction. Playlist support would be a nice bonus. I ll admit this is mostly because my kids always ask for specific songs and I hate having to say nope sorry we ve listed to that one too recently . **What I got** Very minimal playlist support with unlimited plays but only in the context of a playlist. **Things to know up front** * It is not possible to upgrade your freebie Tesla Slacker Plus+ account to Premium * It is not possible to transfer any account info (favorites stations etc) to your new account * There is no discount your Plus+ account is already paid for getting a new Premium account is full price **Details on Premium account in Tesla app** * The only thing that really gets added is the ability to to play playlists you ve created in your Slacker account. * While playing a playlist you can use the back button to repeat songs and play songs as many times as you like. * There is no ability to create or modify playlists in the car. * Playing a song outside of a playlist such as via search still has the same 24-hours-ish play restriction. Most often you ll just get a station of the song you wanted not the song itself. * I ve read that playlists won t show up right away the app syncs infrequently but logging out and back in forces a refresh. I didn t try any of this out myself I created a playlist before signing into my new account in the car and that playlist showed up immediately. **How close to my goal** If I were able to choose all the songs I may want to hear in advance and add them to a playlist and I was willing to go find the songs I want to listen to in that playlist then I could achieve my goal of being able to play what I want when I want. It s frustrating how close this is but it s very awkward to have to choose songs in advance and not safe to have to find them in a list rather than using voice control. I ll be cancelling my Premium subscription and hoping everything is back to normal when I log out. **tl dr** Unless you re extremely eager to be able to have custom Slacker playlists in the car it is not worth upgrading. EDIT: Premium not Pro. Whoops. | 2017-10-05 00:09:36 | 78 | Very helpful review - thanks! I ve had all the same questions. Hopefully they finally give us Spotify one day! | 2017-10-05 00:42:21 | 13 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 17,262 |
How responsive is the app when issuing commands to your car? | I m still debating between a Tesla Model 3 or a Kia EV6. Both are the same price but I m trying to find the pros and cons of each. Idk about the EV6 specifically but my girlfriend has a 2022 Kia Forte GT-Line and the responsiveness with the app when trying to unlock lock the doors or remote start the car is *very* slow. So for all of you Tesla owners how is Tesla s app? | 2022-04-01 04:08:47 | 11 | 90% of the time it s very responsive. When it s not most of the time it s because either my phone or the car doesn t have good cell service. There are random times where perhaps because the car is in a deep sleep it takes a minute to wake up and respond to a command. Get the Tesla. There s nothing else like it on the road. They add new features literally monthly. | 2022-04-03 17:47:01 | 14 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 8,529 |
[Discussion] Does everyone who gets a Tesla have to have something fixed in the service center within 6 months? | From reading this subreddit it seems like it s just expected that a new car needs to be fixed up at the service center. When I got my Model S there was a scratch and a door handle that wouldn t present SC was great and fixed them. I m just wondering what percentage of people actually have or don t have issues. | 2018-01-26 05:42:01 | 8 | People don t post when things are as expected. You are seeing confirmation bias. | 2018-01-26 12:30:10 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,300 |
Where to buy tire road hazard protection | My relatively new Model 3 (3500 miles) had a flat tire this weekend. I have the sport 19 Continentals. Tesla could not plug because puncture was a slit and to close to sidewall. New tire mounted and balanced was $350. I think I will get the tire hazard protection Who should I buy this from? I want nation wide coverage. How does it work if you need a replacement and are not in a city where the company you bought from is not located? | 2018-09-02 16:22:04 | 12 | Discount Tire will also look at the price over the tire and offer rotation and balancing and I think tire warranties too. Not sure how competitive they are but I spent about $75 on my new CRV tires since 2 rotations and balance at the dealer cost that much. I think they are pretty national operating under Discount Tire and IIRC America s Tire. Wikipedia says they have 900+ locations. | 2018-09-02 18:09:20 | 5 | Model Y Wheel Options | 23,247 |
[Discussion] Do I need to deactivate Brake Hold before pressing the accelerator? | I ve been enjoying my Model 3 s auto brake hold feature but one thing I was curious about is how to disengage it. There seems to be 2 ways: (1) just hit the accelerator or (2) depress the brake pedal until it deactivates. Personally I d prefer to just do #1 but the car s UI mentions #2 in its little informational textbox when you first start using the feature. Is there any downside to #1 from e.g. a wear-and-tear standpoint? | 2018-10-08 19:43:51 | 8 | I ve always just hit the accelerator from brake hold -- I did it for 3 years with our Model S to no known issues. That s the best way to launch IMHO! | 2018-10-08 19:46:08 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,276 |
What kind of cruise control options do you have if you do not buy EAP FSD? | Been trying to look for this info but having a hard time | 2017-08-22 02:53:01 | 10 | If you search this sub for cruise control and sort by new these are the three posts in the last month that answer your question. https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6r6cr7 does_the_standard_model_3_have_cruise_control https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6r0e63 aside_from_autopilot_what_other_drivability https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6qi3nk model_3_cruise_control | 2017-08-22 04:31:43 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,823 |
[Discussion] Comparison between 18” and 19” wheels on the Model 3? | I just drove a Model 3 equipped with 18” wheels and was extremely happy with the road noise and comfort of the ride. With all the talk on here about it being loud and rough I m wondering if anyone has ridden driven in the cars equipped with each wheel and can compare the two different wheel sizes? | 2018-02-04 22:25:47 | 31 | My current Model 3 has the 19” wheels and I find the ride pretty nice. It s not a soft ride by any means but I think it s a good balance between sportiness and comfort. I ll be getting another Model 3 in a few weeks with 18” wheels so I ll definitely try to observe the difference in ride quality. | 2018-02-04 23:22:08 | 25 | Model Y Wheel Options | 24,253 |
A really stupid idea question | I ve been looking at grid tie in inverters for solar wind setups. It occurred to me that maybe it d be possible (and even easy) to charge up a Model S every day while at work at the local garage drive it the short distance home and dump the remaining power back into the grid netting an ever so small profit. Would I actually ever do this? No. It is far too much of a hassle and highly morally questionable but couldn t stop thinking about it. It d also put a ton of cycles on the battery packs. Has anyone done this? Does it even seem possible? | 2015-09-03 01:10:24 | 8 | Well let s do the math! Let s assume you have a 70 kWh Model S and you can realistically get 60 kWh of that into the grid back home. Average electric prices in the US are 12 cents kWh so let s assume you can sell it for that. You d net $7.20 a day $50.40 a week $216 a month $2628 a year. That assumes doing it every day a week month year. If you drop it to 5 days a week that s $36 $144 $1872 although that assumes 52 work weeks a year. Would you make money? Sure. Is it a lot? $2k a year isn t nothing. Is it moral? I would say no. And is it worthwhile? In the long run considering battery wear and whatnot probably not. | 2015-09-03 02:44:16 | 12 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 1,016 |
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Has anyone successfully ordered a Model 3 SR in Europe yet? | According to our local Tesla Center here in Austria (info from 24th April) it is still not possible to order a Model 3 SR so also not by trying the procedure to order a SR+ online first and then requesting the downgrade to SR. I assume that nobody else had any luck so far even in other European countries? | 2019-04-27 10:12:13 | 13 | Nope. Not available in Europe. Ordered my SR+ yesterday :) | 2019-04-27 11:10:12 | 11 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 7,629 |
Mobile service is absolutely amazing! | Mobile service came out a couple days ago to fix a short list of issues with my June 2018 build LR RWD. The technician: - Replaced 12v battery - Replaced the aero shield and front diffuser under the bumper that was ripped off by unavoidable road debris - Replaced the steering wheel airbag assembly because the left side of the horn didn t work - Fixed an axle click that had returned despite previous service attempts - Lubed up miscellaneous parts that were squeaking on the wheels. The technician showed up got to work and had everything fixed in a little over an hour. Truly amazing that they can even do stuff like the aero shields without requiring an actual lift. Overall mobile service is easily one of the best parts of being a Tesla owner and I hope most people share my same positive experiences! | 2019-10-21 16:03:05 | 131 | How did they fix the axle click!? I ve been to SC for it twice and had mobile come out for it as well. Mobile service was able to reproduce it but SC couldn t. It s been a goose chase. | 2019-10-21 16:09:17 | 16 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 11,534 |
A question about Tesla waterproofing | I was wondering how watertight the engine and electrical components are. With ICEs the engine needs to suck in air and expel exhaust gases in order to keep running. If the air intake or the exhaust suck in water the engine will die right there. Since the Tesla cars have no need for this can they operate on a flooded road like the pictures we see where the water is up to the windows? Or will having any water above a few inches cause the motors to short out and leave you stuck? If the waterproofing is good how much water can a Tesla handle? Could the motors be so well-sealed that the car could continue to drive in a meter of water? ________________________________ EDIT: The thing is if you live in area that is prone to having over a foot or two of water (in several cities rain water regularly collects and pools up due to poor drainage) then most ICEs (especially 4wds) can be modified easily to account for that - raised intakes generally do the trick. At that point you can theoretically take your vehicle through any amount of water as long as the intake is above the waterline. The interiors will possibly get flooded and filthy but the engine will still run. With the Model X coming out I wonder how they plan to deal with that. I was actually hoping that - seeing how the Teslas need no intakes - they would have sealed the entire battery compartment and each motor to be watertight at least up to a certain depth. This would mean that even if you left your car parked in a depression which was flood-prone you may have damage to the interiors but the engine and battery would still be sound. Sure it s not recommended but the times when we push our cars a little further than the recommended level is probably where we need them the most. | 2015-08-03 22:15:28 | 19 | I ve personally forded about 4 of water. No issues. I have talked to a Service Center rep that told me a story about a guy drove through high water and permanently damaged his battery. The guy never revealed how deep the water was but the rep said the flooring was wet. The Tesla warranty specifically states they aren t liable for any damage caused by driving through water. | 2015-08-03 23:10:56 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 995 |
Current Model X production rate | Tesla missed Q1 delivery guidance just slightly because of Model X delays. They stated the build rate for X rose to 750 per week by the end of march which would put them on track to hit their 2016 full year guidance of 80-90k total vehicles. Good news. Now Elon tweets this - https: twitter.com elonmusk status 726919920374554625 This sort of sounds like they have since slowed down production from where it was at 750 per week. Thoughts? Earnings on Wednesday... | 2016-05-02 03:08:53 | 42 | My general feeling is production rate is currently pretty healthy especially now that they ve opened up the Model X configurator. However I think the stock will drop temporarily after Q1 earnings. However they might drop some positive Model 3 news (i.e. new production ramp up plan). | 2016-05-02 04:23:14 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,297 |
$TSLA Weekly Investor Discussion - October 29 2018 | [We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this thread for casual $TSLA related discussion and investor links. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. Remember be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules. [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ). We also now support r TeslaInvestorsClub for those curious who want more. We are also now trying weekly. Note trolls *will* be banned. | 2018-10-29 09:13:20 | 45 | Kara Swisher on Parascope detailing her 80 minute interview (airing Friday) of Elon. Here s some of my notes listening to her live just now: * Elon is in a calmer state of mind. * Talked to Elon about his Twitter problem (outbursts) - he is still proud over some. * He couldn t talk much about SEC. * Met Elon on Halloween night. * He blames 120 work-weeks for the outbursts. * States issues are mostly fixed for Model 3 production. * Wants to name BFR Heart of Gold. * Got him to slightly apologize for attacking journalists. * Elon likes the Space Force. * New products coming out from Tesla. * He was rested calmer the Elon we re used to seeing from interviews in years past. * Elon said He ll never make a mistake again haha. * She didn t ask him if he should be CEO or who should be his #2. She wishes she did. Edit: I asked her if Elon talked about profitability she said: Every quarter going forward they re going to be cash flow positive. | 2018-11-01 18:09:07 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 161 |
Driving During a Software Update | Hi all! Thought I d share some “undocumented” functionality I came across: I just installed the 2020.28.26 update on my Model 3 and out of curiosity I decided to try starting the car with the mobile app (to bypass PIN to Drive) during the update. To my surprise it worked and I was able to drive away during the “Updating Autopilot” phase. The screen remained unusable displaying only the update UI. After a short drive around my complex I returned to my garage. The car proceeded to the “Updating Electronic Control Units” phase almost immediately after I put it in park and everything shut down. I m not sure if this is a bug or an important fail safe feature but either way it s good to know. Thoughts? Edit: As others have suggested don t try this. I only did because I m curious about how the software was designed to behave under unexpected conditions. It would appear a lot of care was put into ensuring the car is capable of safely operating without the ICE computer at all | 2020-08-04 04:31:53 | 37 | I would strongly advise against driving the car while it s doing a firmware update. Many systems will go offline related to safety during an update. | 2020-08-04 05:00:24 | 94 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,675 |
For those who care Tesla just confirmed that the tow hitch on the Model Y is 2” not 1.25” | Just received a phone from a Tesla Rep. I can upload the voicemail if anyone is curious. He said the Tesla supplied tow package receiver is two inches not 1.25 as many had suspected since it was classified as a Class II which are often 1.25”. | 2020-05-04 18:26:21 | 174 | This is great news. I use a hitch basket for road trips and the basket requires a 2” receiver. VERY good news for me. | 2020-05-04 20:09:47 | 22 | Hitch Bike Rack Review | 6,873 |
Model Y delivery frozen? | Just under a month ago now I was in the final stages of delivery and then the pandemic lock downs ramped up. This included daily calls from Telsa sales folks to make sure I was on track with the process. I received a text saying everything was in order and I should be choosing my delivery date.. and then nothing. I ve been reaching out to Telsa support since then once a week to try to get some kind of idea update on what s going on.. and still nothing. No mails no calls. It s totally reasonable if business operations are halted due to global issues.. but I d hoped for at least received a ping.. an automated message.. something. Some of the 30-day window items (trade in estimate loan certificate) are near expiration and while not impossible to re-secure it would be a minor inconvenience and may shift interest rates etc. Again totally understandable if this is some fallout due to the unexpected global pandemic. Has this happened to anyone else? Any suggestions here? | 2020-04-23 21:02:48 | 8 | They stopped making cars in the US for a little while my guess is you are not alone. Early next month Tesla will probably start bugging you again like they ve been waiting on you all along. With interest rates falling I d be surprised if your bank wouldn t at least honor your previous rate. | 2020-04-23 21:13:47 | 14 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 12,990 |
Insane Tesla Model S repair costs!? | [Images of the Vehicle Damage](https: imgur.com a VWcE0) I m having a hard time with the quote I just received for these repairs. The door is not damaged at all. There s some minor folds in the rear quarter panel which means that piece has to be replaced. No electronics damage and no structural damage to the frame. Guess how much? $18 000 - $21 000 estimate. How can this be? This is the Tesla preferred repair shop in St. Louis MO. If you have any other options please let me know. | 2016-09-22 12:29:36 | 72 | Plan B: 1. Film each step of the below process. 1. Buy a new [Kia Rio](http: images.autotrader.com cms images best-cars 2014 05-may 7-cheapest-new 224884.jpg) for $14 700 1. Drive to Fremont CA for $500 1. Take the factory tour 1. Find and bribe one of the employees working at [this machine](https: static4.businessinsider.com image 560a2202bd86ef1e008bda79-480 tesla-factory.jpg) for $1000 1. Drive back to St Louis for $500 1. Find a St Louis shop that works on Ford F-150s (also uses Aluminum panels) and pay them $1300 to paint and mount the quarter panel. 1. At this point you re in for $18 000. Once your Tesla is fixed sell the Kia for $10 000. 1. Edit the video. Upload to YouTube. Turn on monetization 1. Post to Reddit 1. Not including the month of your life you just wasted the net cost for this repair should be about $2000 now. *live vs life | 2016-09-22 13:20:26 | 138 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 9,692 |
Honking trunk struts? | Brought my 2016 ms60d in for a few fit and finish bits last week. Service people are great no problems there. I ve never had an expensive car before so this was definitely a change for me. Got a p85+ loaner but there was too much sand and gravel on the roads to get the full experience. No a p not even parking sensors I definitely think everything about the cars has improved between that one and now. One thing they didn t fix was my honking trunk struts. They claimed they were operating normally as compared to other cars. I m wondering if they just didn t see it happening as they sometimes behave. Anyone else have the issue where when closing the trunk from full extension you get a squeak honk from the struts? Manual trunk obviously. Will either take a video and send it to them or bring it by again to show them in person unless other people here think this is normal? They took care of everything else including completely replacing the chrome molding under one of the windows that was misaligned. | 2017-03-19 17:41:12 | 9 | When I close my hatch it plays the imperial march for me. Just kidding. | 2017-03-19 19:57:42 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,989 |
Tesla s for tall people? | So I m a fairly tall guy - 6 3”. I ve only owned SUVs due to sedans mostly being just too small for me. I have sat in a Model 3 and it felt small but maybe it was just because I m used to SUVs. I mostly feel my knees are bent too much at an odd angle never allowing my legs to fully relax while driving? Any taller people own a Model 3? How well do you fit in it? What about model S or X? | 2019-05-18 15:01:16 | 8 | 6 3 should not be a problem depending on how you like to drive. I suggest trying all three. The X is by far the closest to what you are used to but give each a chance. Son is 6 1 and drives an X loves my S feels cramped in friend s model 3 but he has a fairly aggressive (closer to steering wheel) seating position. | 2019-05-18 15:14:55 | 11 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 20,227 |
My first experience with a Tesla (or EV in general). | Today I was bored and looking at cars online as usual because I m a basic car guy who likes to pretend I ll be happy with one car one day. I ve flirted with the idea of EV cars before but the usual anxieties have held me back. Mostly my main concern being I want to be able to charge at home so I can at least not have to go out of my way to do so. I went on Tesla s website and poked around and found you can schedule test drives. So I thought what the heck not much else going on so why not? I made an appointment and surprisingly enough there was on available same day. I booked it and went. On arrival I just waddled in was greeted by a Tesla rep and they got me started which took about 10 minutes to get my ID temp registration and asked me how long I wanted it. I asked him how long I could have it and he said we close in 2 and a half hours so bring it back by then. Good enough I decided to drive over to my parents show them too and come back. Here s the things I liked: 1. The drive is very smooth and refine. Coming from a Lexus I was curious to see how the drive train would feel. I was a little nervous driving it but with in a few miles I was very comfortable driving and navigating this thing. The car was very nimble and handled cornering really well. It felt super planted like I could drive up a hotwheels corkscrew track and it would stick like silly putty on carpet. 2. When I first saw the pictures I hated the fact their was no speedometer right in front of the driver like every car. I figured I would miss having that and would find it having to look to the screen in the middle very inconvenient. Turns out I didn t even think about it once. I was easily able to glance over at the speed and more without feeling I was being unsafe. 3. Autopilot is sick. While driving I did get nervous how it would navigate the city I live in is constantly under construction and the lanes aren t very clear. But overall it handled it very well. Trusting the car was very unnerving but I preferred being in control while the Tesla did the brake and acceleration. 4. The screen is really nice. Everything is easier to read and you aren t confined to this 7 inch screen. Considering all of your car settings and interactions are through their the screen size makes sense. 5. Visibility is nutty out the front of the car. Without a gauge cluster and the swooping down hood really made it feel like I was in some really low car or some go cart. The acceleration was just wild after getting back into my car it felt like I was driving a land whale. 6. Interior space was nice and spacious. Seats were comfortable and the flat floor was nice. I m slightly taller then avg and sitting in the back was fine although anyone taller then me will have some trouble in the back seat. Here s what I didn t like: 1. I wish the sunroof would open. I m a big fan of sunroofs and driving with the windows down in the summer. That was a bit of a let down. 2. I wish the seats were cooled. Even with the white color the car seemed to struggle a bit to keep the car warm with the big pano roofs. Also the rear ac vents didn t seem to put out a lot of air. 3. While navigating I had a hard time using the map screen. It took a while to figure out how to zoom and rotate the map and also how to snap back to the guidance arrow for navigation. 4. I wish you could just search for the setting or feature you wanted in the settings. It took a minute to figure out how to connect my phone for music. Turns out I had to go to the music or make a call area to find those settings. I couldn t find them under the car setting. I think something similar to Android where you can search for a setting would be nice. Aside from those things I had a very positive experience. I m going to find out if the HOA where I live will install charging stations that would definitely solidify my decision on getting one. If anyone is one the fence about this car go drive it. | 2020-06-13 02:21:27 | 123 | +1 for missing cooled seats. | 2020-06-13 04:12:48 | 81 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 13,417 |
Less than one year ago Elon said he had funding to go private at $420. Today the stock is under $220. This company has some really serious issues. | Long story short Tesla s costs are too high for the revenue it brings in. They built the company with the idea that demand would be really strong for years. That hasn t played out. Elon has said on a number of occasions that the company has been close to going under. Now they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to cut costs. Once a CEO is looking at an employee s travel costs you know things are really serious and that they are out of things to cut costs on. What do you think? | 2019-05-17 16:55:02 | 61 | I will bet my house that IF Tesla ever goes under Apple and or Google will rush in to buy everything to get into the car market. So I have zero concern about what happens to Tesla. | 2019-05-17 17:03:02 | 130 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 10,805 |
Model 3 Charging - 240V outlet vs. wall connector? | I m currently building a new house and have an option to do a 14-50 outlet in the garage for $725. On the other hand my local electrician is charging $685 to install the standard wall connector in the garage. & #x200B Are there any benefits to the hard wired wall connector other than aesthetics? My thought is that utilizing the outlet and being more modular may cause less headaches down the line. (if I decide to move out in a few years for example). I m hoping the plug in wall connector will be back on sale soon. & #x200B For those who decided to invest in faster charging which way did you go and why? EDIT: I do have a long range RWD so I could benefit from more amps & #x200B Thanks! | 2019-07-11 22:08:58 | 11 | 14-50 is at 50 amps. This means you ll be charging at 40 amps (80% rule for continuous usage). A direct wall charger with 60 amp circuit will mean you can charge at 48 amps which is the maximum AC charge rate the Model 3 will take (LR only SR only takes 40 amps max). If you have SR then you get no benefit for hard wiring it other than aesthetics. If you have LR then you get a boost in charge rate if you hard wire a 60 amp circuit. | 2019-07-11 22:25:37 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,653 |
A serious lack of chargers in San Diego | Just spent an hour and a half looking to charge my car. EVgo was full with a leaf in a parking spot not charging. Tried going to chargers recommend by Tesla via navigation and since I wasn t a guest at a hotel was told no. The only supercharger in SD is near downtown and sadly nowhere near where I was. Tried ChargePoint and half of them are nowhere to be found or being used. Tried CHP office but only chargepoint charger not being used was in a handicap spot (too scared to use that especially at CHP center) I did this with a full charge just to see what would happen. Thankfully enough charge to get home but this is bad. | 2018-05-05 04:58:34 | 18 | Didn t the San diego chargers move to LA? | 2018-05-05 05:15:28 | 116 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 1,021 |
Tesla Semi spotted at unmarked Tesla facility | These things still haven t been released yet? I posted a video of it driving down the street about 5 years ago now... I guess its not such a big secret anymore but saw it sitting in the lot and decided to snap a pic for anyone that might be interested.. https: preview.redd.it zzs89iwqa4o91.jpg?width=2092& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=f598e6fd6317e0382d9036f867dde10640c28adb | 2022-09-16 00:43:22 | 59 | Frito Lay has a few they re testing. So there s some out in the wild but probably just on one or two routes with charging capability. | 2022-09-16 01:01:12 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,457 |
Would you buy a Tesla if you couldn t charge at home? | As the title suggests I am interested in buying a Tesla but I don t have access to a charger at home. We also currently have very few public chargers in my area and the ones I do see are almost always full. I would however have access to a charger at my parents house which is only a few minutes away. I don t drive a lot because I work from home 95% of the time so I don t know how often I would need to charge. Would you still buy a Tesla in my situation? Edit: Thank You all for the replies thus far! It is pretty apparent throughout this thread that it is probably not the best time for me to purchase a Tesla. Everytime a Tesla passes me I ll be looking over in envy and excitement that one day it will make sense to buy one. | 2021-03-26 02:31:58 | 93 | Absolutely not. Lived without a charger for a bit and it was brutal. Having home charging is key. | 2021-03-26 02:38:03 | 196 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 23,939 |
Clicking F5 on a Sunday is NOT futile - I just received my invite to configure 3:30PST! | Click away! I m now hoping you get yours too! :) Edit: sorry in my rush to post I didn t provide details - non-owner reserved online pre-reveal (early afternoon 3 31) Seattle area. I have been hitting F5 on my Tesla account page since I saw people who reserved after me getting their invites this week. I happened to see the configure button at the same time the email arrived! I had my charger installed on Thursday so I m ready!! Last Edit: Not early afternoon on 3 31 early evening. Sorry! | 2018-04-15 23:03:49 | 78 | Just got mine as well Seattle area online reservation | 2018-04-15 23:13:21 | 16 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 3,943 |
Any Canadians receive the gift drawings yet? | Just wondering since I haven t received mine yet. | 2016-07-18 18:42:50 | 7 | I m in the US (Pittsburgh) and still haven t gotten mine. | 2016-07-18 19:02:14 | 3 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 1,585 |
Buying a Tesla but Using My Credit Union | I m about to pull the trigger on a Tesla but the loan I m using is going to be through my credit union. I ve been approved and ready to go. They told me all I need is the purchase order from Tesla when that happens. One thing I m stumped on on the order page you have the option Cash Lease or Loan. Does it matter which one I pick? Obviously I know not to pick lease. I feel like this shouldn t be a big deal but being such a big purchase I don t want to mess this up...haha. | 2020-07-24 15:35:00 | 11 | You would be picking cash. | 2020-07-24 15:36:52 | 22 | Tesla Financing Options | 3,152 |
Out of market - prospective buyer | I live in a rural town in Louisiana and I am very interested in purchasing an X. My concern is reliability and service in an area without any immediate Tesla support. I do not want to get stranded or stuck with a non-working car for a long period of time. Does anyone have any experience advice for a situation like mine? | 2019-07-11 09:21:11 | 25 | Tesla has some pretty good mobile service and if there is a supercharger near you then you re set for life. Also Teslas built nowadays compared to 2012 have way better build quality almost no issues with them now a days. Almost 😂 | 2019-07-11 10:05:20 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,541 |
How does a model 3 Perform in the snow? | I m about to move to Denver and I m wondering if my awd 3 will be ok in the altitude and snow? | 2020-12-15 14:50:34 | 7 | Put some winters tires on and it ll be fantastic except in deep snow due to the clearance. Better than an ICE car since the wheel torque is controlled directly to prevent slipping. Altitude doesn t impact electric cars like it does ICE cars | 2020-12-15 14:53:45 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,226 |
Model 3 in Europe | I am wondering if someone has any information about when the M3 will be available in Europe since it is only partially available in the US and Tesla has not given much info regarding Europe | 2018-02-12 22:10:03 | 11 | The Tesla Swedish site like the other European sites apparently says beginning of 2019 > De första leveranserna kommer att ske i USA och de internationella leveranserna inleds i början av 2019. ~~Tesla s website still says~~ > ~~Deliveries will start in the United States first with international deliveries starting in left-hand drive markets in mid 2018 followed by right-hand drive markets in early 2019~~ Edit: checked the US site which has different info than EU sites. | 2018-02-12 22:21:24 | 5 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 12,206 |
Should we expect the Model 3 to have a screen as good as the Model S and X ? | title | 2016-01-10 03:15:45 | 7 | Yes and I would think it could be a lot better with respect to software and touch scrolling responsiveness where the display (graphics hardware drivers software) is obviously lacking -- very sluggish compared to most modern tablets like the iPad for example. | 2016-01-10 03:37:03 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,159 |
Question about charger installation in apartment and metering | I m based in Sydney Australia but I m still hoping some of you might be able to give me some insight. & #x200B I m currently looking to install a charger in my garage which is in an apartment carpark. I ve put enquiries out and a few companies have gotten back to me. However so far all the metering solutions seem to be integrated into the charger with over the air monitoring and costs between $10-30 month. Obviously we want to avoid ongoing costs. The quotes so far are also in the AU$3000 range which includes supply and install which seems decent? & #x200B Should I go for the Tesla Wall Charger and buy that myself or leave it for the installer to supply it? & #x200B I m mostly wondering if any of you know have experience with other solutions out there like a simple metered charger you can just read off or even a non-metered charger (such as Tesla Wall) with a metre adapter added to it? It would be great to get some links or examples so that I can push back on them if they say there s no other solutions. & #x200B Thanks in advance! | 2019-05-01 02:04:04 | 5 | My personal recommendation would be a hard wired chargepoint charger as it can monitor usage for you is relatively inexpensive and is useable by all EVs. Hardwired is really your best bet to avoid theft. And Tesla hardwired options don t have metering and installing an inline meter is a bit costly. | 2019-05-01 03:14:13 | 5 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 15,787 |
Why doesn t the Model S use two motors? | Weight is what I would think would make it worth it. Plus you could control handling. I m asking in terms of the gear box and rather substantial looking axles. Two motors to give it 2 wheel drive not 4. I was under the impression that it had two and I m pretty sure I saw it depicted with one on each wheel in a documentary. Edit: I d assume they would be directly driving the wheels this way and thus would be more efficient on top of being lighter so range wouldn t really be less. Will the X have two gearboxes then? Kind of odd. It d be 60-70lbs in just drive shaft assemblies. It would be cool if someone could do the math and see how much range could be extended by eliminating these weights and transfer losses. [Model S rear end](http: www.motortrend.com pages getimage.aspx?url=http: image.motortrend.com f features consumer 1206_temple_of_tesla_touring_elons_factory 38156354 Tesla-Model-S-rear-suspension-and-motor.jpg) | 2013-10-03 03:20:23 | 8 | The Model X will have two motors to give it AWD. The S doesn t have it I am guessing to simplify it and the batteries will likely take a hit shortening range. | 2013-10-03 03:48:16 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,483 |
Urgent Help Request: Building a house and thinking of putting a 240 volt NEMA 14-50 outlet in the garage. Where should it be located? | I haven t found any confirmation on the Model 3 charging port location. Logically it should be exactly the same as the Model S (driver side tail light right?). Has anyone found out for sure that s where the charging port is located? Thanks for your help. | 2016-04-28 14:33:57 | 7 | Check out Tesla s Site https: www.teslamotors.com en_CA models-charging# installation Scroll to The bottom and view either of the install guide pdfs. They show the recommended location for the charge port. Think about if you will be backing your car into the garage or not. Also Check out Motor Trend s video: (skip to about 8 minutes) https: www.facebook.com motortrendmag videos 10153682103011312 which is likely the most conformation you ll get at this time. It s a safe bet the charge port will be in a similar location as there s already supercharger infrastructure and it will work with the location of the port on the 3. | 2016-04-28 15:06:04 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,870 |
What do you wish Tesla was better at as a company and or what types of opportunities do you feel Tesla is missing out on? | Please share any critical feedback about the direction the company is going. | 2013-05-30 04:21:01 | 10 | Tesla should definitely look into capcitors and graphene batteries before the competition catches them by surprise. | 2013-05-30 04:52:16 | 7 | Future of Electric Cars | 22,619 |
Monday New Delivery and Owners Thread | Use this thread to share how your recent delivery experience went. How was the vehicle and how did Tesla assist? Congrats! This is the start of a new weekly thread we recently discussed in our last r TeslaMotors update. Please feel free to share any feedback on how we can enhance this thread down the road. | 2020-07-13 10:16:00 | 14 | I picked up my M3P on 6 24. I have been watching tons of videos and such so opted for the abbreviated delivery process. Went super smooth and didn t see any defects other than a slight raise in the spoiler. Didn t bother me enough to have them do anything about it. Loving the car so far! | 2020-07-13 12:55:46 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,939 |
Why did Elon Musk say in 2018 that he wanted to turn Tesla into a private company? | While reading things about Musk I came across the news that in 2018 he wanted to take Tesla private for $420 a share. Why did he claim this? What would be the potential benefits of taking Tesla private? What would he gain from this decision? | 2021-11-03 16:15:28 | 15 | He would gain greater control. You are not as answerable to other people as a private company | 2021-11-03 17:14:04 | 94 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 23,425 |
Autosteer speed restriction | Is anyone else frustrated by the seemingly arbitrary autosteer speed restricted message that prohibits increasing the TACC speed on certain stretches of road when autosteer is enabled? For example there is one road which I drive on for my daily commute where the first half is speed restricted to 50 mph which is fine in this case but then the second half drops to 40 which is too low for the traffic flow there. At that point I have to press the accelerator to get back up to 50. It obviously isn t a technical limitation because autosteer continues to work fine while I m manually accelerating. It seems to be loosely based on the posted speed limits but not always. So why is Tesla trying to enforce their own custom global dataset of speed limits (but only when autosteer is enabled)? To make the matter more annoying it isn t really possible to know if your TACC is set to the max speed without scrolling the wheel button and seeing if it displays the message. I haven t really seen anyone commenting on this before so am I the only one who finds this inconvenient? | 2020-02-29 02:06:27 | 27 | The restriction is almost always 5 mph over the indicated speed limit. If it doesn t have the speed limit the restriction is 45 mph. What irritates me is when the speed limit is wrong (or unknown). | 2020-02-29 02:10:48 | 39 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,612 |
Would Tesla actually be willing to let a bunch of engineering students go for a factory tour? | My college is coming to CA for a robotics competition this July. And we would be in the Bay Area. I had this crazy idea of writing to Tesla to see if we could actually join a factory tour (in the spirit of engineering and education) (I understand only car owners are in line for this). Thoughts? | 2015-07-06 06:53:52 | 25 | Very unlikely. My high school robotics coordinator contacted them about the same thing and they replied telling us to come check out the showroom. Though that was a couple years ago so it may be worth asking again. What competition are you headed out there for? | 2015-07-06 07:28:00 | 11 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 23,897 |
Looking for Model S part catalogs | I keep reading that they ve been available to the general public since 2018 but no luck finding downloads for anything but the Model 3. I want to see what s in the Model S rear drive units for a potential project. Is the catalog available for free? | 2020-09-13 22:26:12 | 14 | https: epc.tesla.com Login with your email and then you get choices by car at the top. | 2020-09-13 22:31:19 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,016 |
Isn t it better to lease a Tesla rather than purchase given the pace of technological change? | I have been a die-hard car purchaser my whole live and I m just itching to get to a point in my life where I can afford a Model S. However particularly after yesterday s announcement it occurred to me that we re on such a steep portion of the innovation curve that it might be irrational to purchase -- rather than lease -- a Tesla (or maybe any car) right now. Thoughts? | 2016-10-20 20:32:13 | 25 | Only if you think you are better at predicting the car s ultimate residual than the professionals they have doing so. Note this is certainly a possibility something Nissan learned the hard way with the first few years worth of Leafs. | 2016-10-20 20:40:42 | 24 | Tesla Lease Experience Considerations | 10,233 |
How many of you guys are day 1 reservation holders vs non day 1? | I m a day 1 res holder that put my reservation in around 12:30pm PT. Just wondering if most of us are also day 1 or non day 1. Edit: Wow! Lots of day 1 reservation holders from all around. Awesome to see those who went through great lengths to acquire it too :). I m just as excited as the rest of you guys to getting my Model 3! | 2017-07-25 21:22:10 | 19 | Day 1 waited in line and got my reservation around 10:45am Central. | 2017-07-25 21:25:17 | 23 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 8,433 |
Issues with displayed range in RWD LR Model 3 | Just wondering if anyone is seeing a similar issue. I am not showing the full range when I do a full charge. I thought at first it might be a calibration issue but last weekend I took a long drive where I supercharged twice and the car fell to a fairly low state of charge both times. When I left I charged to 100 percent and it was only showing 480 kms of range instead of the newly updated 525kms. After the trip it is still showing a fairly low estimation. I wanted to wait until I got the latest update to see if it fixed it and I got 2019.12.1.2 last week and at an 80 percent charge it was showing only 367 kms of range. By my estimation an 80 percent charge on a LR RWD should show more like 420 kms of range based on 525 kms on a 100 percent charge so essentially 105 kms per 20 percent of charge. Just wondering if anyone is seeing anything similar. The car is now a year old and has done around 18 000 kms. | 2019-05-07 17:46:02 | 16 | I wouldn t worry about it. It appears a lot of RWD LR are seeing this issue including myself. Not everyone though. Not sure what it is but it s not real battery degredation. | 2019-05-07 18:07:17 | 10 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 10,253 |
Just tested a P90D | I ve been prepared to buy for a long time but a Range Rover not a Tesla. Today I finally got around to test driving and I can t imagine comparing the experience to any other vehicle. I m coming from a Lexus hybrid so I m familiar with the sensitivity of an electric drivetrain. What I wasn t prepared for was the acceleration of the P90D. My god. It s like nothing could prepare you for it. My hands were shaking from the adrenaline. All my concerns (not luxurious enough too noisy) were addressed. It s an all-around fantastic vehicle. My only question now is: P85 vs. P90. Tough to tell if I should get the extended range. My longest drive would be about 160 miles to the in-laws so I think I could make do with the 85. Are there any other advantages of going with the 90? | 2015-12-31 22:45:32 | 17 | You need 90 for ludicrous mode. | 2015-12-31 22:57:00 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,555 |
I currently own a Prius Ford F-350 and a Jeep Wrangler. Cybertruck will replace all of them as it has the pro s of each without their con s. | Prius Pros: its a fantastic daily driver. Incredible gas mileage. I can transport and lock a ton of gear in the thing (surfboards mountain bike golf clubs backpack) low maintenance costs reliable. Cons: it s a Prius. Ubiquitous (my entire family has a gen 3) bland gutless appliance. Can t take it off road or drive it in the snow. F-350 Pros: hauls the dirt bike paddle boards and tows the Jeep and the boat. It s 4WD so it ll handle off road and the snow decently. Cons: terrible mileage my neighbors and the environment hate me because it s a diesel super uncomfortable for long trips it s the size of a house. Jeep Wrangler pros: it s a ridiculously rad toy it will go anywhere no roof or doors tons of character and lots of fun to drive. Cons: no roof or doors neighbors hate me because it s loud hesitates to go 55 mph terrible gas mileage unreliable uncomfortable. I ve been shopping for a new daily driver replacement for one of the other vehicles. I wanted either an off road capable suv (4Runner or Grand Cherokee) or truck (1 2 ton or HD crew cab regular bed 4WD). $45k to upwards of $70k on some of the trucks I was looking at. Pretty much everything got 15-20 mpg. I like the idea of the suv because it s a larger version of locked storage like the Prius with off road capability but then no dirt bike or real towing capacity. A regular truck requires a tonneau cover for the locked storage but try and put anything bulky in the bed and you have to take the things off (which totally sucks). I feel like the cybertruck nails all the pros of each of these vehicles without any of the cons (it s big but still 3 shorter than my current truck). This is a pretty remarkable feat. Not only to make an extremely capable adventure-mobile that s environmentally friendly but improve upon best in class ICE offerings in so many ways. I put a deposit on a M3 during the unveiling but punted when it came time to buy. $60k for a fancier and faster version of my paid-off Prius. Didn t seen worth it. But CT my god. It s the Swiss Army knife of awesomeness. Shut up and take my money. I want it yesterday. | 2019-11-28 01:04:55 | 566 | All this plus built-in 110 & 220 outlets + air compressor... the go anywhere fix anything (and turn heads as you go) perfect vehicle. | 2019-11-28 01:36:45 | 84 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,792 |
Kimbal s 3 went to someone.. | I hope it was one of us. https: www.omaze.com experiences tesla-model-3-kimbal-musk | 2018-05-05 20:42:25 | 38 | Oh good I can finally stop hearing about this contest. | 2018-05-05 22:20:10 | 56 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,627 |
Update for those in Canada that used an AMEX and got charged in USD | I called Tesla today and they are aware that this is an issue. The guy on the phone knew instantly what my problem was when I mentioned AMEX and he said they are working to figure out how they can resolve this issue. So it definitely is a widespread issue. We won t be losing our reservation spot but it could be a little longer until they figure out their plan. Either refund us the extra we paid completely refund and charge again in the right currency or use the extra that was paid towards the purchase agreement. No idea but one of these scenarios is possible. He did tell me to call back next week for an update so I m unsure how they will communicate this out to Canadian AMEX purchasers. Side note he told me I placed my reservation at 7:29 1 minute before it went live. No idea how but he said I m definitely ahead of the pack :D | 2016-04-06 23:24:12 | 20 | I don t have that problem but good to know that those of us who reserved at the store are visibly ahead. I wonder how many of the 150K number reserved between 7:30 and 8:45. | 2016-04-06 23:29:34 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,777 |
Ordered my TM3 where do I put in my buddy s referral code? | TLDR: Ordered a TM3 never got asked for referral code wondering how I can get it in there. OK so I finally made the decision to buy my model 3. Getting a SR+ no FSD. I have a few friends with Tesla s and they gave me their referral code but I never saw anywhere to put it in while doing my order. So just wondering where on earth do I put it in? I have a referral code for myself which I guess is cool but still I don t see anything about putting my buddy s in. I really want to get it in before the free super charging KM s drops from 7500 km to 1000 km. Sorry for the long ramble but last post got removed for being too short.... so ya.... | 2019-05-13 19:53:44 | 10 | You have to use the link from your friend to order the car. It s a 50 50 chance that you ll be able to get it applied now that you ve ordered. | 2019-05-13 19:57:05 | 24 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 14,502 |
I feel a bit ashamed to ask this here but am I the only one who thinks Tesla High-Fidelity sound system doesn t sound all that great? | Let the down votes come but I have listened to quite a few luxury car stereo systems before making this decision and even the stock BMW and even Nissan audio systems sounds much better than the Tesla High-Fidelity sound system (or so I ve been told that the two Model S I tried had upgraded sound — they may not have). Don t get me wrong the bass and treble is great but the overall acoustics seem off. The bass seemed to come from under the dashboard and a higher volume tended to rattle & crack the tweeters. There was audible distortion when there was mid-level bass and treble at the same time. At first I thought it was just the one Model S (2013 P85) but I tested it in a 2016 facelift Model S 75D as well and same experience. I thought it could have been the Slacker music service but then I paired my own phone and tried it with Apple Music but still no luck. I really want to give the sound system a chance. I want to love it and it s *good* but it s not as good as Tesla says and it s definitely not $2 500 good. What are your thoughts? | 2016-08-07 22:24:07 | 131 | I had a loaner Model S P85+ (with the Hi-Fi sound option) a couple weeks ago while my 70D (with standard sound system) was being worked on and listening to the systems back to back with high quality files played from a USB flash drive the Hi-Fi system doesn t sound that much better. I mean you can tell that the Hi-Fi system has a subwoofer but it s a pretty pathetic one and yes the highs are a little sharper clearer... but the system certainly isn t worth $2500 as far as I m concerned. | 2016-08-08 00:13:01 | 40 | Tesla sound system comparisons | 8,838 |
Check up of YouYou s car after 15.000 something miles | Here s some under the hood footage of YouYou s Model 3. Canada uses salt on their roads sooo ... yeah ... take a look: [https: www.facebook.com NoMiEVmobility videos 618677028494891 ](https: www.facebook.com NoMiEVmobility videos 618677028494891 ) | 2018-04-27 11:02:51 | 20 | Stopped after 2 min but shocked how bizarrely clean it is under there. | 2018-04-27 11:29:41 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,890 |
Can we talk about ChargePoint? | So I was on a road trip over the weekend. Obviously most of us Tesla drivers make full use of Tesla s Supercharger network on long drives. But there are also situations where destination and other chargers are more convenient. I stayed in Phoenix on Saturday night and had originally planned to top up at one of the area supercharger stations on my way out of town Sunday morning. However when I got to the hotel I noticed they had a ChargePoint station in their parking lot. Sweet! It ain t free but the convenience of it being at the hotel is worth the cost of charging to me in this situation as it s going to net me an extra hour of sleep. Plus I m down to support a company that s providing a valuable service to EV drivers. I installed the ChargePoint app on my phone and create an account. I initiate the charging session and go to bed. In the morning I have a notification on my phone saying that my charging session finished using about 20kWh of electricity. I also see a charge on my PayPal account for $10 or so. Pretty smooth transaction. Here s where things go south. When I get home I see another $20 charge on my PayPal account. ChargePoint has noticed that my account balance has fallen below $5 and they ve done me the very generous favor of depositing additional funds in my account. After all charges are settled there s about $15 sitting in my ChargePoint account. But the thing is I have no idea when I ll ever use the service again and I m not in the habit of giving companies interest-free loans. I contacted ChargePoint and they responded about 2 days later to inform me that due to the limitations of their system they cannot refund the funds to my PayPal account and will mail me a check within 15 days of closing my account . Am I just being a whiny bitch or does anyone else find this behavior extremely unethical? | 2017-12-21 07:06:01 | 14 | Regarding the charge bit- here s the official word on it from their FAQ. If you only use free stations we ll never charge your card. If you cancel your account we ll refund the remainder of your balance. To update or remove your payment information anytime go to Financial Information (web) or My Profile (mobile) under My Account. Link: https: na.chargepoint.com faqs This isn t the most elegant solution but I guess they did this to prevent a customer from missing out on a charge session when his her balance runs out & thereby resulting in a partial charge. I noticed the same too and have a balance of $23 right now. However I must admit the number of ChargePoint stations are increasing and probably a good alternative for charging while doing errands since these are located in office & public spaces. SCs are going to get more crowded with time when more Teslas hit the road. | 2017-12-21 08:22:28 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,556 |
Max range displayed based on usage. My Data. | So I ve seen occasional post about Models 3s showing max battery under 300 and some owners reporting above 310. Many assume that max battery adjust to your driving habits but some users say its static and the increase decrease of battery is degradation of battery pack. Here is my data to maybe answer that question. Since July when I got my Model 3 My 90% battery has been 278-279. My efficiency sits at 255 Wh mi. That s on par with 310 at 100% (I have yet to charge at 100% so I am just assuming I have 310). But Last 2 weeks we had a cold front and lots of rain come in where I was forced to used Heat heated seats. During those 2 weeks my energy usage was 350-400 Wh mi and my 90% dropped to 272. Not right away just every 2 days it dropped by a mile or two. This week it s been warm and sunny and back to using A C. My energy is under 260 again and my 90% is back to 278. I drive a RWD w 19 sports I plug in every night. I usually commute ~30 miles a day. I keep car inside garage plugged in to keep battery warm. | 2018-10-30 14:13:13 | 12 | People have hacked the code. Rated miles display has nothing to do with driving habits. It s not debatable. Nor does a 2% drop in rated miles correspond to 50% increase in energy usage. All you re looking at are BMS estimation errors which are also affected by cell temperature. | 2018-10-30 15:06:06 | 37 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,394 |
Summer 2018 CPO Update- The D flows mightily | With Tesla s AWD offerings really hitting their stride around 2015 these cars are now accounting for the lions share of CPO Model S sales. Far more 70D and 85D CPOs are being sold than RWD 85s and 60s. We also see the continuance of Tesla s dutch auction CPO strategy of listing a CPO at a high price and then lowering it a few hundred dollars each day until a buyer finally finds the price appealing enough to pull the trigger. This chart shows the current average asking price of five Model S trims along with the average price when removed from the CPO system for June and July: |Model|Average Current Asking|Average Removal Price| |:-|:-|:-| |60 w Autopilot|$53 250|$51 350| |70D|$54 050|$52 850| |85 w Autopilot|$57 450|$56 150| |85D|$62 800|$59 200| |P85D|$71 650|$67 300| It is mind boggling that people are paying $51 350 for a RWD 60 when for about $1500 more you can upgrade to AWD *and* a bigger battery! While we don t know if all the CPO removals are actually sales or not it seems reasonable to guess at least half of them would be. Upgrading from a 70D to an 85D sets you back about $7500 so that battery upgrade seems to be holding its value well. Going from an 85D to a P85D will only cost you around $8 000 which given the premium between the 85D and its performance variant when new is quite a bargain and consumers seem to be willing to pay for an extra second off 0-60. As the Dutch Auctions progress it will be interesting to see if the flood of off-lease cars pushes CPO prices down. So far looks like they are holding pretty steady. The next few months should be interesting. | 2018-08-03 17:28:39 | 48 | > The D flows mightily I almost spit out my coffee damn it. | 2018-08-03 17:47:41 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,912 |
Adopt a Supercharger | I m mulling over the idea of creating a website where people can go and “adopt” their local supercharger. With donations funds for outdoor garbage cans and bags would be provided to the person to place at their local supercharger. When the garbage becomes full an owner would be able to text a number provided on the can. That will relay the information to the adoptee who can empty the can. Would this be something people would be interested in from both a traveling Tesla owner and a person with a local charger? | 2021-06-09 17:51:41 | 8 | Working for free? Is it because Tesla is a small startup company based out of Elon s garage and poor Elon can t afford an appt and has to sleep at the factory. s | 2021-06-09 18:08:39 | 81 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 1,267 |
[Discussion] 2019.5.15 software update: Did you notice a much faster browser? | I updated from 2019.5.4 to 2019.5.15 today and there were no new features documented nor observed. However I did notice that my web browser was way faster (usable now) compared to before whether I was on WiFi or LTE. What are your web browser speed observation for those who updated to a recent software version? | 2019-03-11 20:44:37 | 29 | I actually did use my browser while at a supercharger on Saturday after the update and yes it loaded fine I didn t have any hiccups or forced resets and seemed to be a smooth experience. It s sad but I just assumed it was a fluke after the update but I sure am hoping it stays that way because it was actually useable. | 2019-03-11 20:46:33 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,118 |
Anyone else s model 3 screen freezes when trying to exit beach buggy racing? | Went to the store turned on BBR2 to keep the kid happy while the wife was quickly going in to buy something. She came back really fast as the game had just finished loading. As the menu popped up I pressed the exit button and my whole screen froze still showing the game s menu. In the background I could hear the regular display as the radio turned back on but the car was stuck in not allowed to drive because gaming mode. I ended up having to press the brake while holding both steer buttons to restart the car. Anyone else experienced this before and is the resetting of your car this way healthy? | 2019-08-05 14:24:39 | 7 | Yes this is a perfectly fine way to reset the car s infotainment system. You might also be able to get away with just the scroll wheels. | 2019-08-05 15:09:27 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,899 |
This is how much you pay for each mile of range | Was a bit bored and tried to make a comparison between EVs available in EU and US and to evaluate the cost per mile of range. To Consider: * Prices are always the plain base model available (no extras) * EVs which are not available in the US had to be normalized to US prices: 35% price decrease (yes we are getting shafted in europe regarding car prices) * Ranges of EVs with non-EPA ratings were normalized too: WLTP Factor: 1.21 NEDC Factor: 1.428 * It is WiP and was put together quite fast (so it probably isn t 100% accurate in some cases) * Any input from the community is appreciated! & #x200B & #x200B |**Manufacturer**|**Model**|**Battery size (Kwh)**|**Normalized Cost in USD**|**Normalized Range (mi)**|**Cost per mile**| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Renault|Zoe R110|41|$ 22 674.42|166.4|$ 136.23| |Hyundai|Kona|64|$ 38 000.00|258.0|$ 147.29| |Renault|Twizy 45 Urban|6.1|$ 5 290.70|34.8|$ 151.98| |Renault|Twizy 45 Cargo|6.1|$ 5 290.70|34.8|$ 151.98| |Tesla|Model 3 LR|75|$ 49 500.00|325.0|$ 152.31| |Renault|Kangoo Z.E.|33|$ 17 988.37|117.5|$ 153.11| |Chevrolet|Bolt|60|$ 36 620.00|238.0|$ 153.87| |Tesla|Model 3 SR+|50|$ 39 500.00|240.0|$ 164.58| |Renault|Twizy 80 Cargo|6.1|$ 5 744.19|34.8|$ 165.01| |Nissan|Leaf S Plus|62|$ 37 500.00|226.0|$ 165.93| |Renault|Twizy 80 Urban|6.1|$ 5 895.35|34.8|$ 169.35| |Tesla|Model 3 P|75|$ 59 500.00|325.0|$ 183.08| |Nissan|Leaf S|40|$ 31 000.00|151.0|$ 205.30| |Nissan|Evalia (utility)|40|$ 25 777.03|119.7|$ 215.42| |Kia|Niro|39.2|$ 37 500.00|159.8|$ 234.64| |Tesla|Model S LR|100|$ 88 000.00|370.0|$ 237.84| |Hyundai|Ioniq EV|28|$ 31 500.00|124.0|$ 254.03| |Volkswagen|e-UP|18.7|$ 17 814.53|69.6|$ 255.88| |Volkswagen|Golf E|35.8|$ 32 000.00|125.0|$ 256.00| |Mercedes|B Class Electric Drive|28|$ 29 865.99|111.0|$ 269.16| |Tesla|Model S SR|75|$ 78 000.00|285.0|$ 273.68| |Nissan|Evalia (NV200)|40|$ 32 827.27|119.7|$ 274.33| |Tesla|Model X LR|100|$ 93 000.00|325.0|$ 286.15| |Tesla|Model S P|100|$ 99 000.00|345.0|$ 286.96| |Citroën|C-Zero|14.5|$ 16 476.74|55.5|$ 296.99| |Jaguar|I-Pace|90|$ 70 025.00|234.0|$ 299.25| |BMW|i3|42.2|$ 44 500.00|144.9|$ 307.08| |Kia|Soul EV|30|$ 34 000.00|104.0|$ 326.92| |Tesla|Model X SR|75|$ 83 000.00|250.0|$ 332.00| |Tesla|Model X P|100|$104 000.00|305.0|$ 340.98| |Audi|e-tron|95|$ 74 800.00|204.0|$ 366.67| |Smart|Electric Drive|17.6|$ 23 800.00|57.0|$ 417.54| |Renault|Master Z.E.|33|$ 53 875.17|52.2|$ 1 031.77| | 2019-04-25 08:59:14 | 32 | I m not sure what this metric is practically useful for in terms of helping a potential buyer. Would you please elaborate? | 2019-04-25 09:29:47 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,042 |
Bought SR last night. Anyone found lower APR | Hello ordered M3 and now looking for financing. Tesla is offering 4.25% for 72 month. What have you guys been seeing for July. When I got my X two years ago it was easy Tesla had 1.5% rate and it was an easy choice. Also want to say I think standard ST is a a great deal. Only software limited way better and way cheaper than its competitors | 2019-06-15 17:10:37 | 23 | Check your local credit unions...I know someone who just got 0.99% | 2019-06-15 17:38:18 | 17 | Tesla Financing Options | 3,005 |
Tesla Model 3 Road Trip Tracking Thread... | Thought it would be helpful to have one place to talk about YouYou Xue s road trip and his stops along the way. I m looking forward to the stop today in Richmond at 3:00 p.m. but I can t get his Glympse tracker to work for some reason. Who else is going? | 2017-12-29 13:39:09 | 63 | Anyone else keeping up with You You s laundry list of Model 3 problems? Either he has a lemon or us early adopters better get cozy with Tesla Service. So far: - Air bag light coming on. - Tire pressure sensor light coming on. - Charging lid sensor problems. - Wipers making knocking sounds. - Stereo making strange noises. - Loud pop sound in back while stationary and warning light. - ~~12v plug not working.~~ Was actually a third party inverter fuse. - Time zone change problems. - Discrepancies in charging rates calculation (screen shows different cost than final bill). - Occasional glitches and lagging in touch screen in the map and charging modes both requiring hard reboots. *Edit: Now remembering the map glitch would not fix with a reboot and required a Tesla Ranger to meet You You on the interstate to fix. - Steering wheel adjustment control failure. - Back camera lag. Jumpy video at highway speed. Link to the road trip page so you can see I m not making all of this up: https: www.facebook.com tsla3 | 2017-12-29 14:24:47 | 62 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,118 |
(Model 3 Checklist Author) I feel guilty when a Model 3 delivery is refused for small or negligible issues. | TL DR I m starting to feel guilty for writing the widely-used Model 3 checklist. New owners are refusing delivery because of minuscule paint defects that are being taken too seriously. Perfectly good cars are being turned down and hurting production delivery numbers. I m subscribed to and have been a member of r teslamotors for about 7 months I engage with multiple facebook Tesla groups and I see news about Tesla and it s vehicles maybe 30x or more a day. About 1 6 of the posts I see on Facebook groups are about how the poster refused to take delivery because of minor paint defects that are hardly noticeable or hardly visible without a very close look or maybe a weak magnifying glass. Because of this I feel guilty. I guess my message to all new owners is if you really think the paint needs to be redone then get it redone. Otherwise please take my checklist with a grain of salt. Your Model 3 looks perfect now but I promise you it will one day be imperfect. Just enjoy the car as much as you can. You re driving the car of the future. It s a world-class car but it s also the world s best car. Have fun! | 2018-09-12 04:43:40 | 284 | Hopefully Tesla has adopted your checklist and new owners are getting better cars because of your efforts. Thank you for putting that together although once I saw my car for the first time I completely forgot to use the list. | 2018-09-12 04:56:47 | 87 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 189 |
v10 Air Recirculation | I noticed with the v10 update my 3 seems to be randomly deciding when to turn on the the air recirculation . It used to just default to being on all the time. Now it seems to default 90% of the time to be ***off***. What gives? I know there was is an issue with it being on all the time and mold growth occurring (yeah it happened to me) but I thought the solution was an OTA update that ran the fan for a few minutes after parking. I guess that didn t actually solve the issue? I find it annoying as I frequently use the highway and I often don t realize recirculation is off until noxious odors begin creeping into the cabin. Anybody else notice this have insight as to the change (ie - when why it is deciding to turn on or off)? I thought maybe it would auto turn on at highway speeds but that doesn t seem to be the case... & #x200B Edit: I think NoVA\_traveler is probably right about this one. The change actually has nothing to do with v10 and more to do with the change in weather. If the temperature is cold it will default to turn off recirculation as pulling in fresh air by default is better in the winter. | 2019-11-01 18:14:41 | 21 | Is it not related to the season change? In summer your car recirculates air conditioning so as not to waste the already cooled air. In fall winter it brings in fresh air from outside. This is how Auto works in all cars with Auto thermostats that I ve owned. | 2019-11-01 18:18:02 | 21 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 25,551 |
Battery swaps - talked about for a time as the faster way to restore a Tesla vehicle to full charge (in 90 seconds.) How are we coming on those nowadays? | 90 seconds for a fast battery swap vs. 30 minutes for a supercharge - if you re in a hurry wouldn t you rather swap your depleted battery for a full one in just a minute and a half? How are things coming along regarding swapping batteries? How much closer are we to getting this employed in earnest for areas where there are more Tesla vehicles per capita? Or what s the hold-up? | 2017-02-14 22:17:04 | 10 | There was not enough demand while Tesla was testing out the Battery Swap Program in California. So Tesla eventually scrapped the program and it looks like they re trying to improve supercharger capabilities instead. Battery swap might work for fleet operators and the Tesla Semi trucks but as far as regular consumer cars go it looks like people are willing to wait 20-30 min to charge for free vs pay $80 and go through the hassle of making an appointment showing up on time and returning the battery later | 2017-02-14 22:36:54 | 21 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 2,747 |
Tesla Bricked? I hope not! | https: www.youtube.com watch?v=u1Yuf7qdKSQ Jump to 2:25 for the scary parts... I just got my car less than a month ago and this kind of thing terrifies me. I hope it s something simple like the 12V battery. edit ------- https: www.youtube.com watch?v=Scdo2fogsyY Update it was a shorted ECU. | 2017-01-04 18:55:17 | 36 | You beat me to it. I watch his videos regularly. It sucks cause he was just praising Tesla electric vehicles on how reliable they are and inexpensive they are to run compared to his previous ICE vehicles. My guess is his 12v battery failed. | 2017-01-04 18:58:49 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,431 |
[Discussion] Can I Start the Config Process on the Model 3 then Switch? | I m staring at my Model 3 reservation and debating whether to click Get Started or Hold My Place. If I click Get Started do I forever lose the option of going back and choosing Hold My Place to wait for an AWD? Also where are we on the tax rebates getting halved? | 2018-04-12 15:34:35 | 14 | Nothing is locked in until you place your $2 500 deposite | 2018-04-12 15:41:04 | 13 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 24,233 |
Tesla Factory visit? | I m visiting California from Canada next week and wondering if it s worth a stop in Fremont to see the factory. Do they have a visitor s centre or a store there? I know I shouldn t expect a factory tour or anything but if there s something to make the stop worth it I d like to stop by. I m driving from LA to SFO so it won t be out of my way. Thanks! | 2016-04-11 22:03:47 | 19 | They have a show room there and will let you drive the Model S. Then you will be like me needing one more than ever. | 2016-04-11 22:13:08 | 9 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 18,942 |
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How will the rise of Tesla self-driving electric cars affect other companies? (not just other car companies) | When more and more cars can drive themselves and run on batteries this is going to change our economy in so many different ways. Gas stations Jiffy Lubes and other car companies will either dwindle or have to change their business model. More reliable electric motors will weaken the demand for our average car mechanics. Obviously lots of stuff will change. As an aspiring entrepreneur I m excited about the new business opportunities that will cater to it. What NEW businesses do you think will rise with this new way of transportation? | 2016-04-04 19:45:27 | 12 | I see opportunity around the charging stations. Refueling will no longer be a 5 minute process at a gas station where you grab a snack and hit the bathroom. 30 minutes is long time to keep people hanging. If I m on a road trip I d be stopping every 215 miles (about every 3 hours). I don t want to sit and have a 30 min meal at every stop. Besides food I wonder what would be a demand for most commuters during recharging. | 2016-04-04 19:48:35 | 9 | Future of Electric Cars | 8,666 |
Feature Request: Avoid Highways in navigation | Amazed that this is STILL not an option in the navigation now with FSD beta nearly ready to go to a wider user base it would seem even more useful to add this as an option. | 2021-09-04 01:06:20 | 376 | Or prefer highways… | 2021-09-04 01:11:02 | 148 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,396 |
Tesla delivery experience needs some serious work | I ve been waiting to make a HYPE post for a few weeks now I ve been so excited. But while still a huge fan of the cars company and the direction I would love to see if anyone here has some advice because I m rather close to dropping my order over what has been a miserable post-sales experience at my local Tesla center. I was an early reservation holder but never redeemed it due to the timing just not being right. However the stars aligned in the past few months and about a month ago I placed an order for a M3P. The sales experience was awesome they were incredibly patient with my repeated trips to the center bringing my partner to ensure it would be okay for both of us and 3 test rides later I placed an order. I had a delivery date last Tuesday at 10AM right as the store opened. Took the morning off arrived a few minutes early and my sales rep was walking in and asked me what I was doing there. Informed him today was the delivery day and he as usual was excited for me and went in to check on it. Cue 10 minutes later delivery manager comes out and I get told they don t have my car --- it s a couple states away. But no worries I ll probably be able to pick it up this weekend. Pretty disappointing experience but ... sure things happen. Later that day I get a call that they do in fact have my car and it arrived the previous day. But I can t go pick it up. There is a safety issue insofar as both tires on the front are punctured. I m curious but okay things happen. I ask about the tires getting replaced and I get told I may be better off ordering another car. I was a bit in disbelief so I left a message with the delivery manager who called me back and informed me they had to replace both wheels and tires in the front. So the wheels have to be ordered from Tesla and that can take some time which is why the suggestion was thrown out there that I order another car but that it really is a last ditch effort type suggestion. He said he d already placed the order for the wheels and tires but there is no ETA. Okay not so great but things happen. Cue yesterday. They get a new black M3P in stock. Not my VIN doesn t have the white interior but still. So I sent an email asking if there would be a chance for the wheels tires on the inventory car to be swapped with my car and then when the replacement wheels tires come in they can just put the new ones on the inventory car. I guess this was unreasonable because I got told under no conditions could they do that. In fact if they were to do it they might damage the cars. I get that things happen but I ve loved and worked on cars most of my life. Never in my shade-tree mechanic years have I managed to damage a car changing out wheels and tires. I also get that they are trying to drive sales numbers since that is the current hype --- but please don t lie to me about it. Tell me that my car is already sold and that this one can t be sold if they put my wheels tires on it. I get that moving a sale on the inventory car benefits the sales center and that moving a delivery on mine is ... well meh. But don t tell me that your service center can t replace wheels and tires without damaging a car. What about the people who go to get tire rotations at the official service center? Do they drive it up to discounttire to get the rotation? I m obviously annoyed at the situation but I m also surprised. I knew that they have delivery issues I know that there are going to be problems that occur --- again things happen. But if you have a solution to a problem and opt not to take it that just feels shitty as the customer. I m fighting the urge not to cancel my reservation. I ve ridden driven Model 3s I enjoy most aspects of the car but ~~being treated like absolute crap~~ (corrected --- emotions!) feeling like you re being treated like crap really does suck. It could just be my local Tesla sales center + service center but that is where I d end up going if any issues occurred. I did ask to speak to one of the managers but they have not yet returned my call. Any recommendations? How did you deal with this if it occurred? | 2019-06-15 16:24:23 | 32 | My delivery date was this Tuesday for a new Model X. They just called me an hour ago that the car has the wrong interior. Aka not what I ordered. So now I have to start the whole process again. | 2019-06-15 16:40:25 | 21 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 19,769 |
There is one thing that I am concerned (curious) about the Cyber Truck | I placed my order recently for the CyberTruck for all the popular reasons but more than looks and the fact that it is a Tesla at a crazy good price point I actually plan on using it..well as a truck. Like inuse my current truck which means hauling towing all the truck things. As I was unloading some stuff at the dump yesterday I noticed the bed of my truck and immediately something clicked. I love the idea and concept of the rail system and the flexibility it offers but my truck bed currently (and often) has a lot of debris dirt sticks etc. in it. You know because of actual truck stuff. Right now it s as easy as washing it sweeping it or let s face it leaving it for awhile. The grooves for the rail system seems they would be an utter nightmare when it comes to this dirt and debris etc. In all honesty if it isn t addressed and acknowledged in a meaningful way it may be a deal breaker. Not just for me but for a lot of folks who plan on actually using it for working. https: s3.amazonaws.com images.gearjunkie.com uploads 2019 11 tesla-cybertruck-07.jpg | 2019-11-29 04:50:45 | 27 | T-slot rails are used on machining centers and regularly get metal chips and cutting oils in them. They usually get blown out with compressed air. The truck comes with an air compressor. I don t see it as an issue. | 2019-11-29 05:42:46 | 77 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck | 20,939 |
Some thoughts after a 3 700 mile road trip in my Model 3 | I recently did a road trip from the SF Bay Area to Kansas with my mom in my Tesla Model 3 LR RWD. In the spirit of [Elon s request for constructive criticism](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1274522648236765184?s=20) I listed out some thoughts I noted during the trip. I ll preface this by saying I m a huge Tesla fanboy and have owned the car for almost two years so hopefully the r Tesla Redditors don t rip me to shreds… Maybe a Tesla engineer will see this and can make some suggestions at their next team meeting! **General** * Approximately 3 700 miles round trip * Charged exclusively using superchargers * Total charge cost was $176.52 (\~4.8 cents per mile) **Software** * **Don t auto-lock doors on walk away with passengers in the car.** When stopping to charge my mom would sometimes stay in the passenger seat while I went to go use the restroom. I took my phone so the car auto-locked after I left. If she opened the door before I came back the alarm would go off. I started leaving my keycard on the center console but that didn t seem to help. * **Rear seatbelt warning should remain off for the trip after dismissing.** Sometimes we d put something heavy in the backseat that apparently was near the seatbelt warning weight threshold. I would dismiss the rear seatbelt warning at the beginning of the drive but if we went over bumps it would sometimes trigger again. Perhaps there should be an option to turn this off entirely (I never have people in my backseat). * **Range estimate should be smarter.** We drove on interstates where the speed limit was between 70-80 mph. There were two of us in the car and the trunk was full of bags which increased our weight. It was also \~80-90F outside so we ran the AC the whole time. The superchargers generally had me charge such that I would arrive with \~15% battery at the next supercharger but as a precaution I would stay plugged in until it showed \~20%. Over two hours of driving the estimated arrival charge almost always dropped from \~20% to around 10%. I get that the car might make this mistake on the first leg since it s not used to the weight speed or temperature but it should use the prior leg efficiency to estimate the next leg. It was not fun constantly eyeing the estimated arrival charge. One time we even had to slow down to 65 mph in a 75 mph and turn off the AC because the estimated arrival charge dropped to 3%. The car could get really smart if it estimated (i) the loaded weight based on power needed to get to a certain speed and (ii) the need for AC along the drive based on the ambient air temperature. **Hardware** * **More 250-kW superchargers.** This one is obvious and I know will come with time but during the whole 3 700 mile trip along the interstate we used only one 250-kW charger. The rest were 150-kW. I know resources are super tight and probably smarter for Tesla to build new superchargers where needed rather than upgrade old 150-kW superchargers but one can dream... * **Better supercharger locations.** I m not sure how Tesla determines where to place the superchargers but they often are not that close to restaurants or stores. I found that many were located behind hotels which doesn t make much sense to me since nobody would leave a Tesla plugged in overnight. If it were below 32F or above 100F it would actually be pretty tough for a family to walk to a restaurant or bathroom based on the location of many of the superchargers we stopped at. **Autopilot** * **Move over more for big trucks.** I know Autopilot apparently gained the ability to hug the opposite side of the lane when passing semi trucks \[[https: insideevs.com news 375668 video-tesla-autopilot-v10-large-trucks ](https: insideevs.com news 375668 video-tesla-autopilot-v10-large-trucks )\] but it doesn t seem to move enough (if at all) for me. Occasionally it felt like my car would move over when passing the front of the truck but it was hard to tell if that was just because the truck was blocking the strong wind. * **Increase follow distance for big trucks** (similar to how Autopilot increases follow distance at higher speeds). I know I can manually increase the follow distance but it would nice if the car did that for me. Semi trucks need more room. Plus my car got a couple paint chips despite me trying to keep my distance. It would be really cool if Tesla could use the interior microphone to detect small rocks clinking off the hood bumper then back off a bit more. * **Don t sit in a blind spot.** I don t know what it is about human nature but I found that people tended to “hang” with me on lonesome highways. I had Autopilot set to a consistent speed but as I passed somebody sometimes they would speed up so I was in their blind spot for a prolonged period. It would be cool if Autopilot would speed up or slow down to prevent this. * **Moving out of passing lane needs some improvement.** I really appreciate that Autopilot now seems more aggressive in getting out of the passing lane It s a pet peeve of mine when people don t move so it ll be great when all cars do this. However I found it a bit annoying when no cars were visible in my rear view mirror and I could see a car in the slow lane about a quarter mile ahead yet my car still moved into the slow lane. Not a huge deal because it would automatically pass them but it was just a constant back and forth and back and forth between lanes for hundreds of miles. The rear view camera may not be able to see far enough but if there is nobody visible in my rear view mirror the car shouldn t necessarily move over only to move back again a minute later (yes I know it s often the law to not sit in the passing lane but if nobody is even visible behind you probably not a huge deal). * **Autopilot still hugs outline of lane on turns.** Autopilot has gotten much much better at lane centering but I still find the car will hug the outline of the lane when taking a gentle turn on the highway. Over the 3 700 mile trip I had to disengage a few times because the car just got too close for comfort when passing somebody while the road curved. I think Autopilot generally tries to stay in the center of the lane but it s probably safer for it to hug the opposite side of the lane whenever passing somebody especially on curves. * **Smarter HOV lane.** This has been widely requested before on this sub but Autopilot should know how many people are in the car and whether you have a digital pass to use an express lane. Since I was with my mom I had the car set to use HOV lanes but sometimes there were paid express lanes that I didn t want to use so I had to turn off the HOV lanes in the settings each time. | 2020-06-29 02:31:36 | 284 | > Don t sit in a blind spot. This one is huge. I ve become fairly comfortable using autopilot EXCEPT for when AP likes to chill in the blindspot of some big truck. Should be very easy to identify and make adjustments. This would be the biggest improvement to highway AP I can think of. | 2020-06-29 02:49:43 | 148 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,568 |
Feature Request: Charging Timeline Visualization In Mobile App | When charging my car I often see “4 hr 30 min remaining” etc. Then I go and do the mental clockwork of adding the time to now and so on. I make a mental linear approximation to approximate what charge I will have when. It d be awesome if I could (in the main view or “charging” section) get a colorful timeline to show charging benchmarks (many ways you can design it red yellow green...ticks on 70% 80% 90% etc) so I can have a good projection for when the charge will be X charge by X time (since charging is non-linear and my mental approximation may be off). Then I won t keep checking my phone I can just know ok it said 6pm don t check your phone until then. And I know you can schedule departure to smart charge to departure time but moreso this is a clientside UI request just for more info. | 2020-11-15 01:35:56 | 27 | I just slide the charge limit around to check the charge time to different levels. | 2020-11-15 01:46:30 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,420 |
Did Tesla ninja-patch AP2? | I noticed yesterday that on local roads (off the highway) the little gray steering wheel icon (which allows you to enable lane keeping) comes on much less frequently. There are places where I once could turn on AP2 that are now disabled. So it seems like Tesla has reduced the availability of AP2 off the highway (my firmware is 2017.34 2448cfc which is kinda old). Has anyone else seen this behavior? I might be imagining it... Has there been any news in this area? I don t think I read anything... (If they did reduce availability I don t think it s a bad thing. AP2 didn t work super well on local roads. So disabling it there until the software improves is probably a good idea.) | 2017-10-01 16:00:28 | 20 | maybe because of people using it off the freeway and then [posting complaints](https: streamable.com ductj) that it doesn t stay within the lane on tight corners they decided to make people follow the directions a little more strictly :shrug: | 2017-10-01 16:19:22 | 26 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 5,051 |
Do you think we ll ever get to the see the P85D on Top Gear? | I just want it on there so...sooo..badly. | 2015-02-05 19:03:28 | 19 | Clarkson would say he couldn t find the door handles and give up on it. However if James May or Richard Hammond were to review the car I d love to see it on Top gear. | 2015-02-05 19:31:12 | 37 | Tesla Model Comparison | 5,311 |
Automatic lights | 2016 model s p85d My morning commute is appx 9 miles. I drive at a time of day where ambient light is in that gray area where in direct light my lights are off but in the shadows my lights kick on. In 9 miles 20 minutes ish my lights will cycle 10 or 15 times. This seems unnecessary. Solutions: instant auto on but put a delay on the auto off where the sensors continue to sample. Solution 2: If the car is in drive the lights are on. If the car is not in drive the lights are off (on a slight delay). Always on does not function this way and reverts to auto on its own. | 2020-02-13 18:34:39 | 19 | It s common for most cars to do this. You ll notice this more often with newer cars as they drive through tunnels and under bridges. Just a safety feature. I see this a lot under over passes especially when I drive behind Audis. | 2020-02-14 00:45:30 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,433 |
Who pays the electricity bills for the supercharger networks? | As you know its free to charge from a tesla supercharger station. Who pays the bills? Is it an incentive from the states? Is it coming out of Tesla s own profits? thank you. | 2013-07-20 23:38:24 | 12 | Solar panels have been installed in some and I believe the plan is for all of the super chargers to have them eventually. Any other electricity requirements are paid for by tesla. | 2013-07-21 00:21:20 | 10 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 23,333 |
5000 miles with a Tesla Model S 85D | Last year I became hopelessly enamored with a Tesla Model S after test driving one. This year I test drove one again and decided this need to happen. Given that I currently had a very nice car a Cadillac CTS-V Wagon it was surprising to my wife that I wanted to make the jump. But we crunched some numbers and made it work. Taking nothing away from the CTS-V it was a wonderful car but the Tesla is on a whole other level. [Out with the awesome old in with the slightly more awesome new](https: farm1.staticflickr.com 476 19080579532_5c4bb0bf3f_b.jpg) Since taking delivery I ve driven 5000 miles in slightly less than 3 months. I ve learned a few things about owning an electric car and gotten an understanding of what it takes to live with one as my only car. First a few numbers: **Fun numbers** * Number of Supercharger enabled road trips taken: 5 * Number of total different Superchargers visited: 12 * Longest drive in a single day: 405 miles * Total average electrical usage: 313 watt-hours mile * Average electric bill increase per month: $65 **Superchargers** My favorite Supercharger thus far is in Maumee Ohio. It s in the parking lot of a 24 Meijer and has an awesome smoothie place right next door. My least favorite is at the Montgomery Mall in Bethesda MD. It s a temporary location - only 2 chargers in a very busy location and charged at only 70 miles hour whereas other superchargers average 200-300. The most crowded I ve ever seen a full 6-8 bay Supercharger was in Country Club Illinois - 2 Teslas there when I arrived and 2 different ones there when I left. As I travel only in the midwest and once to DC I m not in a high Tesla area so I m almost always the only Tesla at any given stop. **Range and Charging** My commute is 12 miles each way so range is never an issue at home. I ve traveled a full day s worth of errands with no worry about running out. On the aforementioned 400 mile drive which normally takes me 6 1 2 hours with bathroom and food stops it took me 7 1 2 hours to make it home which included 3 charge stops and leaving at the start with only 100 miles of range. Waiting to charge takes longer than gassing up but I don t mind the breaks. Superchargers are located every 100-150 miles for the most part so regaining lost range will take about half an hour at each stop. (unless it s that stupid Montgomery Mall one...) [Posing with a friend s Lego built 2 3 scale Supercharger](https: farm1.staticflickr.com 367 19047991761_6dab3abd7e_b.jpg) **Performance** Oh my god you guys the Tesla smile is a real thing. The torque and the immediate grip thanks to the AWD means you stomp the go pedal and you GO. 0-60 is rated at 4.2-4.4 but it feels faster than my old CTS-V which was rated at 4.2 The lack of shifting and any turbo lag or anything like that just makes it feel faster. The traction control is solid and completely eliminates wheel slip. A full throttle acceleration is amazing in its simplicity. You stomp the go pedal the electrons surge the motors sound like a sci-fi special effect and boom you re somewhere else smooth and fast. **Interior and Utility** The Tesla is something of an acquired taste if you re used to modern car interiors. It s clean simple and spartan. It lacks interior storage space but that just acts to keep clutter at a minimum. There s nowhere to put all your extra crap so it doesn t pile up The touch screen is huge clean and simple. It is fine with glare but tends to get smudgy with fingerprints. The car is tricky to get in and out of with my height because it s long and low. While the car lacks with storage cubbies it more than makes up for with cargo capacity. The Tesla actually has more interior cargo space than my wagon did and that doesn t include the frunk which can fit a sizeable duffle bag or if you want a kid. I ve taken the car camping and was able to fit plenty of camping gear along. I haven t used the roof rack yet but will try that out this weekend with my bikes. [Out in the dirt](https: farm1.staticflickr.com 392 19093046305_14c454e697_b.jpg) **Issues** My Tesla isn t perfect. It has a couple of minor details and build faults that need to get taken care of: * Adhesive has leaked out around the outside of the frunk liner. It looks like it was overspray during manufacturing * A screw has fallen out of the armrest leading it to be looser on one side than the other * There s a gap in the footwell where the trim panels don t reach all the way to the carpet. It tends to catch my shoe if I m not careful **Final Thoughts** I don t know what else to say about this car. I just love it and don t miss my V at all. When the Model 3 comes out if it s even close to this much car is going to be such a paradigm shift. | 2015-08-14 01:23:12 | 54 | I hope you ve already talked to Tesla service about your issues. They will easily address those for you! We ve just hit around 400 miles on our 85D. Can t stop smiling when we drive it. | 2015-08-14 01:29:36 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 769 |
Any idea why autopilot didn t react to car in front braking? | AP showed no sign of slowing and I had to slam on the brakes myself - hard enough that my tires screeched and a couple cars behind me had to swerve a bit. First thought is that its because I was driving into the sun but that same sun position is present for several weeks a year during my commute and I haven t experienced this before. In the past when sun has been an issue it will tell me to take over because of low camera visibility. & #x200B I ve had my model 3 for over a year and use AP for 50 miles daily and this is the first time I couldn t see an AP issue coming. https: reddit.com link cbodgx video af8j4p9uck931 player | 2019-07-10 23:48:03 | 15 | Looks like it might from a perfect storm of variables: 1. Driving under an overpass 2. Car stops under the overpass 3. The sun gets blocked by the overpass Visually there seems to be so much environmental change that it might of falsely assumed the vehicle was part of the environment. By the time they were braking hard the whole scene completely changed compared to a couple frames prior. | 2019-07-10 23:58:27 | 24 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 1,685 |
How is everyone getting steep discounts on Inventory cars? | And is it still possible to do this? I have been looking at Model S in the 80K range but want to get them down to 60-65K if possible. Saw some posts with 27K discounts on P100D but at the end of the quarter - is that the reason? & #x200B Are you A) negotiating at a location? B) Taking off features? C) Something else? | 2019-03-31 20:52:03 | 31 | You need to work with someone at Tesla. Usually you can find someone to help you at a Show room. You can use sites like the one below to help you find inventory cars and you can sort them by price or discount. Once you find one that has the options and the price works for you you put down a deposit and you can give the VIN to your Tesla employee to help them locate and arrange delivery to you. & #x200B [https: teslainventory.teslastats.no ](https: teslainventory.teslastats.no ) | 2019-03-31 20:56:54 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,322 |
Quick Summary of The D event | First off all the speculation about what the D stood for was on point. And the updated moniker for the highest performance model will be P85D+ I assume. I m going to try and highlight all the keypoints in quick bullet points. -the dual motors allow for the car to be flexible and adaptable when the car calculates what it needs and will adjust the power going to the front and rear motors. This allows it to reach its optimal efficiency -new top speed is going to be 155 MPH for the P85D -0-60 mph acceleration will be an astonishing 3.2 seconds -it will allow for a whole lot better handling and traction control just like other AWD cars except you know better..... ) -the range will actually be increased by about 10 miles -self parking (without even having to be in the car) switch lanes on its own adaptive cruise control and automatic breaking. The Model S is will be able to accomplish this by the a front radar cameras and an ultra sonic radar all integrated with with GPS and navigation. -all the Model S vehicles produced in the last two weeks have the hardware and autopilot feature installed in them -the P85D will be available in December and then the other variants will be available in February -you can SUMMON the car to your location. Assuming you re on private property :D I think I got mostly everything. If not then call me out on it. But overall I was super happy and wasn t disappointed with this announcement. So many things moving rapidly with Tesla Motors and it s incredible that we are witnessing greatness in the making and being able to be a part of it. Have a great night everyone! | 2014-10-10 05:05:04 | 6 | > -new top speed is going to be 155 MPH for the P85D Holy shit balls! That s 248 kmh! | 2014-10-10 10:33:36 | 3 | Tesla Model Comparison | 16,023 |
Map updates for express lanes and speed limit? | Is there a way to submit requests to update maps? I m Charlotte NC there are now express lanes on interstate 77. They aren t part of Tesla navigation and the speed limit is wrong. When I look on OpenStreetMap Google Waze etc. it appears they are mapped correctly and the speed limits are correct. It s creating navigation and AP issues on my end. | 2020-01-13 20:34:30 | 35 | I live on the north end of the i77 express lanes. The phantom braking at exits is also something that needs to be reported. If anyone knows of a way to do this please let me know this has been an issue for over a year. | 2020-01-13 21:07:10 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,363 |
Opinion Advice Needed - Tesla financing - depreciation? | Hey all Finally plucked up the courage to put a deposit down on an ex-demo model 3 performance with about 10k miles. Comes with FSD with Ap 2.5 When I compare the price to brand new I m saving about 15%. I live in Europe for FSD doesn t have as much value here right now but I ve been promised free upgrade to Hw3. At €56k Do you think this is a good price? Brand new spec is about €66k What do you guys think about depreciation over the next few years? Financing seems to be a sensible option right now as I can pay monthly and then save on the side for balloon payment. The balloon payment will be about €27k. You think the car will be worth more than that in 36 months? Your opinions would be much appreciated. | 2020-01-06 23:15:07 | 15 | Assuming a 50% depreciation in 3 years is probably in the right ballpark. | 2020-01-06 23:45:21 | 3 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 14,423 |
Using restrooms and facilities at on-site Supercharging properties | Many Superchargers I use are located on hotel properties. If I am charging for 40+ minutes and there is no fast food place within walking distance I sometimes sit in the hotel lobby or use the hotel restroom. Is this allowed? Is this part of the agreement Tesla has with the properties? I was always curious :) | 2020-01-07 16:07:28 | 37 | Allowed or not allowed is up to the property and if they didn t want it I m sure they d put up a sign. Otherwise it gets you in the door and gives you a chance to see how nice the place is. Free advertisement. | 2020-01-07 16:09:43 | 50 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,962 |
DIY Ultimate Build Model 3 Mattress with all rear gaps filled | I have reviewed many many options for building or buying a potential perfect mattress setup. It appears all fall short in either the gap between the front seats and rear headrest and or they don t fill the side gaps far enough. I plan to make a build that preferably allows for the removal of the back seat. Plan: Build the widest and fullest possible mattresses and support system for the Model 3. Testing: Front Seat and Rear Side Seat Gap: I am looking to test this Pet Barrier (linked below). What s nice is that it has a fold-able plastic core board and has an extension that goes well into the middle of your body so your body weight acts as a counter weight to the head rest area. Additionally the width of the shelving is 52.75 extending beyond the seat width and covers nearly all of the side gap. I may be able to even cinch down the lower half to somewhere in the battery well. [https: www.chewy.com furhaven-deluxe-pet-barrier-seat dp 225399](https: www.chewy.com furhaven-deluxe-pet-barrier-seat dp 225399) Mattress: TBD - Will buy a full and then use a electric turkey carver to cut down the foam to spec. Update 8 1 2020 Furhaven in Model 3: Take a look at the pic. The Furhaven fits like a glove in the Model 3. Waiting for my memory foam topper to custom cut it to fit all the edges. Bed looks like it will be 55x78. The biggest I ve seen thus far. https: imgur.com gallery 4bk52aV https: imgur.com gallery 7YUhqPd | 2020-07-28 15:52:36 | 43 | Exped MegaMat Duo 10 medium is what you want. https: m.imgur.com a WqfmaQ3 | 2020-07-28 16:05:11 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,426 |
Seats - multi? next gen ? nappa? etc. | Is there a primer somewhere on the seat options? What does Next gen refer to? Is it just in reference to the upholstery? Or are there features of the seat that change? What is multi vs. nappa vs. textile? Are there other options about the seats that make an appreciable difference in the way it fits and or moves? Thanks... | 2017-02-13 20:52:03 | 5 | Next gen seats are physically different. They have higher and tighter bolstering. It s closer to a snug sportscar fit. The other options are upholstery. Multi is largely fabric with some leather in the sides and headrest. This stuff is easier to see at a showroom. | 2017-02-13 21:19:03 | 3 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 16,850 |
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