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My Model 3 Journey | TL DR: Ordered a model 3 in Sept 19 still waiting until estimated delivery May 2020. Sorry for the novel. This has been a wild ride but after a brief taste in December I m excited to finally receive my Model 3.....when it arrives. Back in September I placed an order for a white SR+ with FSD as a lease auto through my work. Here in the Netherlands the taxes were increasing quite a lot in 2020 so I hoped that my order was early enough to meet the deadline of the end of the year. Initial estimates were all stating November well before the deadline. Starting in early November I began checking my account for the hidden VIN. Nothing. My coworkers who also ordered their M3s were all getting VINs no matter the color model added features even though their orders were placed after mine. No problem delays happen. I started to get worried at the end of November when people were receiving notifications that their orders were not going to make this year s delivery. I was told by both tesla and my lease company that there were still boats that were on their way and I should have no problem. *phew* a bit of relief. A couple of days later nearing mid December I received a call from my work telling me that my car will not be delivered in 2019 and the new estimate is March. I was upset but I was OK with the delay. I decide to call Tesla again to see if they can tell me why I have a delay even though I was guaranteed to receive my car this year based on previous information through them and my lease company. They checked and had no information on why there was a delay but they also said that my white SR+ was actually canceled and that the order didn t exist anymore. However they found another car tied to my name and that delivery was scheduled for 20 December! Exciting!! I got off the phone and immediately called my lease company to share the news along with the RN of the new car. They tell me to accept it since the other order is canceled. Come delivery day I have an appointment at 3:30 to pick up the car. I arrive at 3 and wait in line until 5:00 or so. In the line I see the car exists in my tesla app. It felt real. However it was black and a performance model 3. Not quite what I ordered but thought maybe it was incorrect in the app for some reason. I get registered that I am waiting and am told to wait a little because of all the paper work isn t finalized. After waiting 3 hours paperwork is finalized go out and find my car in the lot. It was the performance model. Nice but I was super hesitant. It s not what I ordered and the other car my real order didn t exist anymore. I drive the car home get groceries the next day and drive around the city just enjoying the car over the Christmas holidays. I put 230km total on the car. After the new year I receive a mail that I need to IMMEDIATELY return the car as it is outside of the budget that my work is willing to pay AND it is not a valid color for a lease car. My heart sank. I call my work and get some clarity they contact the lease company and then get back to me. I scheduled a return date and notified my work and Lease company. The lease company canceled the wrong order and tried to have my work pay more for a car for me. Upon asking for compensation for the mistake since it not only cost me delivery of my car it also is going to cost me nearly double per month because of the increased taxes having a delivery in 2020. They responded with No compensation but at least you got to enjoy a nice car for 2 weeks. this was infuriating but there was nothing I could do. I never expected to keep the performance model but they could have still owned up to the mistake. I have since returned the car and put another order in. Still for a SR+ with an initial estimated delivery of March the same as my originally delayed order. This was fine. However I was notified of yet another delay until May. So here we are waiting yet again and having that 2 week taste only made me want my own that much worse. It truly has been an experience and I just wanted to share. Hopefully they surprise me and it arrives before May. Edit: March 9th: Received my delivery notification today! Scheduled for Friday!!! | 2020-03-06 12:35:38 | 15 | Yea that sucks! Feels like because the cars are going off the shelf pretty quick they do not care about customers. | 2020-03-06 14:15:12 | 4 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 13,258 |
Considering the huge and unexpected turnout of reservations on the 3 do you think Tesla will be able to uphold their standard when it comes to customer service? | Serious question. I was one of the people who thought there would be lines of 10-50 people max at the stores on the 31st. Knowing what we know now and that even those at Tesla did not think this would happen do you think having your Model 3 will be an issue if something needs to be fixed or if it has recalls or anything? As it stands now if someone has an issue with their S I usually hear the customer service is great and being able to have a loaner S is very convenient and painless. Will they be able to keep up with the amount of 3s needing service? Will they have enough loaners? I know they re looking to double the amount of service locations but that was announced before *he* announced how many reservations had been made. Do you think they ultimately low-balled that number? I m just imagining this massive influx of owners and if everyone will be able to be taken care of in the same fashion. | 2016-04-03 05:36:04 | 7 | Scaling your business from 50k units year to 500k units year is a huge challenge in all aspects of the business service included. | 2016-04-03 05:49:21 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,109 |
To those also with phone key issues please check this setting | I was in contact today with Tesla support (not phone support but the service center) and they helped me realize that my Tesla app no longer is using requesting my location. In iOS settings under privacy and location services the Tesla app is not a listed app. Curious if this is the common factor or just an issue isolated to me perhaps. | 2020-12-29 22:11:15 | 9 | Mine has the Tesla app listed. iOS 14.4 Dev Beta Tesla app 3.10.9. Is your phone managed by your IT? If not try reinstalling the app then try reset all settings if issue still persists restore iOS but without restoring from the backup. Good luck. | 2020-12-30 01:08:51 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,288 |
Will models that are pre vision only switch to vision only down the line? | I have a 2019 M3. Will the radar be switched off later to become vision only? Or are the new models different camera hardware? I ve looked around and I haven t seen anything that gives us information on this. Reposted to meet 200 minimum. | 2021-05-28 13:53:12 | 46 | The new software is going to be vision only so the radar hardware just won t be used anymore if you have it. | 2021-05-28 13:59:04 | 52 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 23,678 |
2019.40.2.1 - Cameras blinded | Has anyone experienced increased frequency of camera blinded blocked messages? This issue seemed to correspond to bright sunlight on that side of the car specifically B pillar cameras. This was repeatable to the point that as I turned and drove which side was blinded blocked would alternate with the position of the sun. I noticed the issue again on the highway in light rain but this time it was the front side cameras. Not sure if it corresponded to people s headlights being bright on that side. First thing I did was clean all the cameras and ensure there were no obstructions. This is the first time I am seeing this notification since I got the car in July. I am trying to figure out if this message is on a cooldown of some type as it seems to resolve after about 5 seconds. Maybe this has to do with the changes made to the rear-camera behaviors and was applied to all the other camera feeds. A bit disconcerting that a sunny winter day is blinding the cameras enough to throw this warning. | 2019-12-14 16:55:45 | 94 | Yes i see the exact same behaviour since the upgrade to 2019.40.2.1 from 2019.36.something.. | 2019-12-14 17:17:56 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 514 |
A Tesla for single vehicle family | About to have a kid and we can only get one car. Would you guys recommend getting a Tesla at this point in time? I can t be without a car for more than a couple days and with a child I definitely need something reliable. For people who ve had issues with long repair times do you get a loaner from Tesla the whole time? My concerns are mostly with repair times and issues like frozen door handles. I also don t want to be stuck on the side of the road with a new child. | 2019-06-07 03:11:17 | 22 | We are a single car family so we got a Model S (bigger than TM3 but X was too big). We love it and haven t had any issues where we didn t have the car. Just get rental coverage on your insurance and you won t have to worry about long repairs. If it s an issue covered by the warranty Tesla will give you a loaner for the entire time they have it. | 2019-06-07 03:18:15 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 894 |
How to join FSD city streets beta | I have the FSD package and would like to join the city streets beta. **I m hoping to get an answer from people who have joined the beta.** They sent me an email that I can apply to join the beta. It asks my basic information as well as describe your driving style and roads you typically drive on. Im wondering... What are they looking for? I drive on a mixture of big city small city and country roads. But if I knew they wanted one over the other I would accentuate that. There are 2 trains of thought. 1. They want big city drivers because that allows the FSD beta to learn the most aboit city driving. 2. They want small city and a bit of country drivers because they have already gathered a lot of big city data and want data on small cities and back roads because they don t have as much. If anyone has gotten on the beta I d love to hear what you put down. Thanks. | 2021-06-21 07:34:27 | 8 | Why don t you just accurately describe your driving patterns. If they pick you congrats I m happy for you (and for me as that s one more driver helping to train the system) . If they don t pick you I m still (selfishly) happy because it means they picked someone who more accurately met their needs further training the system. | 2021-06-23 03:03:55 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,601 |
Removing refreshed Model S front plate mount. | I know removing the front plate has been talked about else where but I used a slightly different approach removing the front mount license plate. I found that a 12 point socket (size 5 16) would engage the bottom star bolts well enough to remove them. Others have shown you can easily remove these bolts by dremeling slots in the star bolt to use a flat head screw driver to remove them. For those unaware of the steps. 1. Remove three front screws 2. Remove the two under bolts (star head shaped) 3. Head gun to loosen the adhesive holding the last part on. 4. Peel off remaining adhesive. It took me maybe 15 min. I took my time removing the adhesive. | 2016-06-16 06:51:52 | 15 | Sorry didn t take a before. Should have. It didn t look terrible. It looked seamless. Here is the after in bad light. http: i.imgur.com ejEgPu0.jpg | 2016-06-16 13:47:45 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,405 |
Weekly Experience Thread | This will post every Saturday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own experiences during the week if they match below. This thread is specifically intended for **photos** of: * Order Confirmations * Delivery Day Photos * Vanity Plates * Video Blogs + Racing Videos * Delivery Transport Trucks * Vehicle Spotting (case-by-case) * Toy items you purchased * Baked Goods If you think a post violates this verify with our updated **Rule 4** in the sidebar and report it. | 2017-12-02 11:11:48 | 5 | https: i.imgur.com CXfVLhL.jpg Very very excited :) | 2017-12-03 21:28:40 | 2 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 25,954 |
A Thought on the Open Configuration and Tesla s Cash on Hand | So with the configuration opening up to seemingly everyone I stopped to try and figure out why. I am not a stocks or overly business-savy person but here s whatI came up with: I put my reservation for my Model 3 in March 2018 but due to my impatience I acquired another s place in line (March 2016) for a small fee which coupled with me selling my TDI back to Volkswagen meant the timetable would work great for transitioning between vehicles. I am scheduled for delivery in one week an am beyond excited. However today I see the configuration opened up on my March 2018 reservation and I was a mix of disbelief WTF and how did this happen? How is this possible that Tesla would just open up configuration for everyone? Surely there are too many the wait would be way more than the 10 weeks I waited from configuration to delivery. Then I had a thought: It s a cash grab...and I mean that in not a shady way but a very strategic one. Upon configuration of the Model 3 you have to pay an additional NON_REFUNDABLE $2500 deposit for the car that gets knocked off the price of the car. It s this point that I believe is the reason Tesla opened to everyone: Tesla is opening up configuration now letting thousands of people put down a non-refundable deposit in order to bolster their cash-on-hand. The money they collected from people will no longer just be held with the possibility of refunds now it will actually be Tesla s money. So when the shareholder s call happens Elon can say they have seen both a large influx of M3 orders and their on-hand cash is at record highs due to the non-refundable deposits that they can tout and then use for whatever they need. It s actually strategically very clever. TL DR: Tesla opened configuration to acquire more non-refundable deposits to bolster growth and on-hand cash for shareholder meeting. | 2018-06-28 18:39:20 | 18 | That might be part of it. Also allows all reservation holders to get free premium connectivity for life by ordering before July 1 which is nice | 2018-06-28 18:43:17 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 899 |
(discussion) Enabling autopilot while stopped | So in the past I kept trying to enable EAP after hitting traffic and coming to stop and it would never enable while I was holding the brake pedal. This was annoying because it would let me enable it while moving slowly. I figured out that EAP will kick on while in a full stop if you put the car in hold mode (press down harder on the brake). I just got the update to 36.2 this morning so not sure if it came with that or if it was always like that but it s nice to be able to turn on EAP after you ve hit bumper to bumper traffic. | 2018-09-21 00:58:09 | 7 | Yep that s been a thing for at least as long as I ve owned my car. | 2018-09-21 01:04:02 | 14 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 207 |
[Discussion] Question about Home charger compatibility | We reserved a model 3 the first week reservations became available. Haven t heard any ETA on delivery dates but now we are interested in purchasing 2 vehicles. Obviously I would prefer to get an additional Model 3 but we can t wait two more years from now to replace our aging combustion vehicles. I was considering getting a Chevy Bolt in addition to our Model 3 but was wondering how that would work with charging in our 2-car garage. I m guessing the charger would not be compatible? | 2018-01-10 17:34:20 | 11 | This depends on what kind of charger you are getting. You could get a 14-50 outlet installed which would probably work with both (I m not positive what adapters the Bolt has). You could also get a regular EVSE hooked up with a J1772 plug and both could use it. Alternatively you could get a Tesla wall charger and then [use this adapter](http: shop.quickchargepower.com JDapter-Stub-Tesla-Charge-Station-Adaptor-JDPTRSTB.htm) to have it work on your Bolt. The advantage here is that if down the road you want to get another Tesla wall charger they can be put on the same line and will split a charge (as long as you get the newest version of the wall charger that have this capability). | 2018-01-10 17:41:17 | 6 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 24,692 |
2018.24 Vehicle Software Update Megathread | **2018.24 began an initial roll out on June 21 2018 and in larger quantities on June 23rd 2018.** Please keep all discussions on features or enhancements you ve encountered here! #####S X 3 (with AP1 and AP2 only): - **New wording on Autopilot** - “Hold wheel warning” wording changed to Apply light force to steering wheel. - **New vector maps on MCU v1 vehicles** - (water will be grey) thanks u scottrobertson. TMC Link Images [here](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads software-update-2018-24-baf6ebc.118637 page-2#post-2821725). - **Speed Limit Mode** - You can now limiting the maximum speed limit in the vehicle using a pin #####Model 3 - **Wifi Networks** - With this release Model 3 now connects to available Wi-Fi networks. Tap the LTE icon at the top of the touchscreen and select the network you want to join - **Cabin Overheat Protection** - When active your vehicle prevents the interior temperature from exceeding .... On by default. - **Summon** - Model 3 can now be summoned in and out of narrow parking spaces using the mobile app. To enable this feature tap Controls Autopilot Summon. To learn how to initiate cancel and customize Summon refer to the Owner s Manual #####Model S and X - **Change Log** - Links [1](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments bb215b61-f744-4e3b-b560-91488cea00b1-jpeg.311379 ) and [2](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments 183c66ec-de26-4478-8ce1-0b1afce5199d-jpeg.311378 ) per TMC and u UGot2Handit2Leprecns - Mobile Connector Updates Display on Instrument Cluster - **New language option in Mexico: Spanish** - Spanish is now available as a language option for your vehicle. To choose Spanish tap CONTROLS Settings Language & Units. When selected the touchscreen will display in Spanish. Voice commands navigation and Media Player will respond to Spanish Anything else discovered new AP capabilities minor changes in the overall UI? See our main [OTA Software Megathread]( r TeslaMotors wiki softwareupdates) page for tracking links and details on software updates. Will be updating the page soon with details on how batched deployments occur and how we know to date how Tesla validates signs and pushes updates (to better inform users how OTA updates are tested deployed) and the best steps to retrieve updates if you haven t received one in a long time. If you want to share something you discovered please format it as such so it is easier for us to consolidate what Model the information applies to: \> > **Feature | Vehicle Model | Year | Image link of feature or change if possible** | 2018-06-21 15:25:48 | 105 | Model 3: * With this release Model 3 now connects to available Wi-Fi networks. Tap the LTE icon at the top of the touchscreen and select the network you want to join * Cabin Overheat Protection - When active your vehicle prevents the interior temperature from exceeding .... On by default. * Summon - Model 3 can now be summoned in and out of narrow parking spaces using the mobile app. To enable this feature tap Controls Autopilot Summon. To learn how to initiate cancel and customize Summon refer to the Owner s Manual Model S X: * New language option in Mexico: Spanish - Spanish is now available as a language option for your vehicle. To choose Spanish tap CONTROLS Settings Language & Units. When selected the touchscreen will display in Spanish. Voice commands navigation and Media Player will respond to Spanish S X 3 (with AP1 and AP2 only): * Speed Limit Mode - | 2018-06-22 00:47:53 | 33 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 458 |
Automatic high beam on Model S sometimes stops working and defaults to high beams instead of auto | This happened several times now to my Model S. Usually the automatic high beams work great but sometimes the A inside the blue symbol disappears and it just blasts on high even in broad daylight. Here s a video demo of the issue https: twitter.com ArtemR status 1138214465076260865. Has anyone found a fix for it or the cause? | 2019-06-10 22:51:11 | 6 | AutoPilot computer crashes and is trying to recover. You ll notice that during this time there are no lane lines shown and AP will not engage. Patiently wait and it will come back. | 2019-06-10 22:53:35 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,430 |
Navigation needs to differentiate between Express HOV Lanes and Toll Roads | It s really irritating that it doesn t especially since I live in a state where HOV isn t free for electric vehicles. I m ok with using toll roads since we have entire highways that are toll roads and the alternative is driving local roads for the entire trip but I don t need express lanes or HOV lanes. North Texas does managed lanes which is dumb but that s a different conversation. It s never more than 1 or 2 minutes faster for me on my commute and frequently it s slower because it s segregated 1 lane and the person in front of me is going 60. I have to remember to toggle toll roads on or off depending on where I m going which is like the definition of first world problems but it would be a nice QoL increase if the car just allowed me to say no to express lanes and yes to everything else. Or no to express lanes that don t save me more than 5 minutes or something. Or maybe even prefer regular roads if toll roads aren t X minutes faster. I had to drive 10 miles on local roads yesterday because that s the route navigation told me to take even though Google Maps had me on the toll road. Didn t realize I forgot to toggle it until I got to my destination.... I just figured maybe there was unexpected traffic between when I checked the route on Google Maps and when I got in my car. | 2020-01-28 16:23:29 | 84 | < cries in Washingtonian> I too feel this pain | 2020-01-28 16:31:31 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,629 |
Can I upgrade AP2.0? | Hello recently bought a 2017 MS. It has MCU1 with AP2.0. I think FSD is cool but for $10k I m fine without it. Is there any other way to get a higher AP? Is upgrading the MCU going to help? Mainly want Sentry Mode to be able to record when I m parked. | 2021-01-16 03:34:30 | 5 | Cheaper to buy a nice dash cam if that s your goal. | 2021-01-16 03:37:14 | 19 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 3,389 |
China is building superchargers along highway service areas. 4x 120kW DC 8 plugs. | China State Grid Corporation is building high speed charging stations along highway service areas. Image: http: abload.de img 11531075284qea.jpg Key points: * 4x 120 kilowatts DC per location. * 8 charging plugs per location. * Chinese GB standard. * Cost: 0.65-0.8 yuan per kWh (10-13 Dollar cent). * About to open Beijing-Shanghai line (1262 km) with charger every 50 km. Full text google translate: > Ten air pollution face haze V high oil prices drove the cost of your eyes ...... let people focus on electric vehicles however the high-speed electric vehicles on long distances no oil how to do? Now the good news came: Recently five electric vehicles have been the first to break the ice the Beijing-Shanghai line long-distance travel the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed line indicates rapid charging system is about to be opened. Modern Express reporter learned that among a total of Jiangsu section 11 charging stations. > > Modern Express reporter Liu Weiwei > > The fastest 30 minutes can be charged the electricity is only half the fuel costs > > Clean non-polluting electric vehicles but has long been plagued by problems charging popularity of electric vehicles. Last year the State Grid Corporation introduced measures planned in Beijing Hong Kong and Macao high-speed Beijing-Shanghai high-speed and high-speed along the Green Bank building electric car charging stations. According to CCTV reported that the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed line fast charging system is about to be opened. January 10 five electric vehicles have been the first to break the ice the Beijing-Shanghai line long-distance travel. > > It is reported that the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed full 1262 km with an average 50 km each way a fast charging station electric vehicles can be filled with the fastest 30 minutes. Price 0.65-0.8 yuan per kWh equivalent to half the electricity costs of fuel mileage cars. > > Fuel vehicles by an average of one hundred kilometers 9-10L oil operator running the entire Shanghai oil costs about 800 yuan so doing an electric car to run the whole electricity in Shanghai around 400 yuan. > > Jiangsu section of the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed charging stations have 11 > > Beijing-Shanghai high-speed Jiangsu section altogether after six cities namely Suzhou Wuxi Taizhou Yangzhou Huai an and Suqian. State Grid Jiangsu Electric Power Company official told the Modern Express reporter Jiangsu section total 11 charging stations to ensure a smooth electric vehicle charging and battery life. > > It s 11 charging stations are in the service area. The official said that all charging stations are located in motorway service area including the Jiangyin Bridge service area included did not shed construction area. > > It is reported that each charging station configuration 4 120 kilowatts DC charger 8 charging piles each pile with a gun charge to meet eight simultaneous charging of electric vehicles. In the charging station customers can choose according to need fast charge slow charge timing amount given power and other charging. > > It is reported that National Grid has built 24 000 charging pile forming the Beijing-Shanghai Beijing Hong Kong and Macao (Beijing - Xianning) the Green Bank (Qingdao - Shijiazhuang) two vertical and one horizontal network continued line mileage 2900 km the scale of the world most. Charging pile for all electric vehicles in line with the national standard charge. Source (Chinese): http: news.sina.com.cn o 2015-01-12 031931387046.shtml | 2015-01-11 21:39:12 | 34 | So… which Chinese cars can actually charge that fast? | 2015-01-11 22:36:48 | 4 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,911 |
Update 2019.40.1.1 Notes and Review - Lane Changes Rock Changing Out of Passing Lane is Broken | So I got 2019.40.1.1 but it seems Tesla may have pulled this one shortly after sending it out... LR AWD TM3 with FSD **Deep Rain** It isn t raining here but I did poor some water from a watering can on the windshield and it worked great. The wipers were actually a little overzealous and kept wiping long after the windshield was clean. I also tested a very small amount of fine mist from a spray bottle and the wipers detected it immediately. It seems improved but until real world scenarios we won t know *how* improved. & #x200B **More Confident Lane Changes** Ohhhhh buddy these are amazing. When you hit the turn signal to make a lane change you barely get past one click and the car starts to change lanes. MUCH more similar to the way I and many others change lanes. When using Navigate on Autopilot when the car initiates the lane change itself it still waits probably 3 or 4 clicks before it starts changing lanes. I get why Tesla would do this but I turned on non-confirm so the car would do it so I wish it was just as fast as when I hit it myself but I m sure we ll get there eventually. & #x200B **Changing Out of Passing Lane is Broken** Edit: *u EOMIS says his change out of passing lane is working. They are HW3 and I m HW2.5 so...* I was in the passing lane for over 20m for my test drive today. There isn t much traffic due to thanksgiving and the car did not ONCE try to exit the passing lane. It did pass slower drivers tho. All testing on MadMax. & #x200B **Autopilot has a new minimum** ***set*** **speed** People were confused by what I meant when talking about this earlier. Yes AP could always go to 0 with a lead car but the lowest you could set TACC AP was 18mph. So if you set it from a dead stop the car would immediately start going forward. Now you can set AP to 0 and it will slow down completely stop and just sit there. The lowest speed (besides 0) is now 1mph ~~2mph~~. ~~Not sure why they skipped 1mph haha~~ & #x200B **Video Examples** If you re interested I made a video about this update here: [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=8sGOY0nUv68](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=8sGOY0nUv68) & #x200B I realize Reddit is not always the most accepting to YouTubers and their goofy thumbnails and I get it so I typed out everything for you in case you don t want to watch the video. Reddit was a huge help to me before I got my model 3 so I d like to be able to contribute as well. & #x200B If you have any questions happy to answer them! Happy updating! & #x200B P.S. The click advanced 5 times trick is BS :) & #x200B Thanks for the double gild peeps! Reddit is by far my favorite site for talking and learning with other enthusiasts. I know the etiquette around here ) | 2019-11-29 00:00:15 | 283 | I don t speak for all of reddit obviously but I don t mind your video at all. It s on point and with minimal fluff and the subject is interesting. Thank you. | 2019-11-29 00:07:31 | 56 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 21,767 |
2020 vs. 2021 Model X | Newer to the Tesla world -- what (if any) differences exist between 2020 and 2021 versions of the Model X? Is there a good resource to find this info? | 2020-12-12 00:01:20 | 8 | Honestly you never know when an improvement has been put into place and not been made public yet. Sometimes it s 2-3 months back after an announcement that had the feature. They could have started doing something crazy awesome on ones made starting today and you wouldn t know about it for a while -- gotta sell the old ones first before you announce that they re not as good :) | 2020-12-12 01:30:19 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 552 |
Tesla Solar customer - self referral for new car? | Hi we currently have tesla solar (solar city) and I have the referral code in my app but we don t have a car. We are looking to buy a car in the next month or two can I self refer and get the full bonus on each end of the deal? Or does it only work if you have a car and self refer yourself for another so each car then gets the 1k mile bonus? It s not a big deal either way but hard to get an answer for a kind of unique situation from a showroom. & #x200B Thanks for any 1st hand exp that someone here might have :) | 2020-11-27 19:14:43 | 20 | You can self refer. I did that when I got my second Tesla. Though not sure about the exact details about the solar referral. | 2020-11-27 19:19:05 | 17 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 19,528 |
Found a cat at Harris Ranch Supercharger | It s a long shot but maybe someone forgot a cat. Was driving from LA back to San Jose and stopped at Harris Ranch. Time was around 3-4pm. No collar in a crate. Don t have a great pic right now. Going to a shelter tomorrow Monday to see if the cat has a tag. Hope it s one of you and not someone who just abandoned the cat. Pic in the link. https: i.imgur.com w1QPf5h.jpg Share if possible. Would really like to find the owner. Might not be a Tesla owner. But this is the best I can think of. I also poster in Tesla Motors club California forum. I am in San Jose. I know reddit loves cats maybe we can find the owner. | 2018-08-20 03:35:58 | 177 | The story has a happy ending. Got the number of the owner from Tesla motor club forum. Spoke with her. She should pick the cat up tonight. | 2018-08-20 04:01:23 | 148 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,917 |
Tesla CCS Adapters? | With the recent announcements regarding the end of unlimited free Supercharging for new Tesla owners and the US Federal announcement in support of expanding EV charging along interstate corridors (but will be CCS for L3 fast charging) I am wondering if Tesla is going to release a CCS Adapter along the lines of the CHAdeMO adapter? It could also happen that New Teslas will adapt and that CCS will be added to Superchargers. Don t laugh if Tesla is truly an energy company and moving to a pay for charge model it would make sense to adapt their SC network to support CCS. In that context Tesla might both continue to use their own port on their vehicles (and no CCS adapter) to lock in the Tesla charging market while opening SCs to other paying EVs by adding CCS support. | 2016-11-10 16:18:53 | 8 | I m sure they re working on a CCS adapter and I imagine we ll see it before too long. CCS seems to be winning the standards war over CHAdeMO so if a CHAdeMO adapter made sense a CCS adapter will make even more sense. I doubt that Superchargers would add CCS support. I don t think that Tesla will try to make a profit by charging for Superchargers. Switching to a pay model is just to reduce frivolous usage so that the infrastructure benefits more Tesla drivers. | 2016-11-10 16:30:23 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,440 |
Anyone familiar with showrooms in Atlanta? | Good morning all I ve ended up on a last minute trip to Atlanta this morning with my parents and want them to look at a tesla. Anyone familiar with the showrooms? Can you get inside one or are the showrooms just a car sitting in a mall? The two nearest showrooms are the one at Lenox Square and the one in Marietta. Anyone familiar with either? Thanks | 2016-03-05 14:55:54 | 10 | I live in ATL. The Marietta showroom is pretty big kind of like a small dealership. Really cool. The Lenox one is smaller and more like an Apple Store type thing with a model s in it that you can sit in. You can also buy tesla gear and design your own tesla there. | 2016-03-05 16:23:49 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,925 |
Seriously considering Tesla for my first car when I graduate this May and would help figuring out if this is even remotely practical. | So I know this sounds completely insane and it kinda is but hear me out. I m graduating college soon and need a car to get to my job. I ve never owned a car partially because I m visually disabled and driving is somewhat difficult dangerous for me but also because as a college student I ve never needed or really had money or time or space for one. But for better or worse the job I have lined up after I graduate requires a car to get there so I need to figure something out. Simple as that. I m in love with Tesla and as someone who is visually disabled and grew up completely dependent on others driving me around the prospect of a car that can (in time) drive itself is the closest thing to a miracle I could ever ask for. The only problem is as we all know these things are expensive and I m not sure what I should do. Right now it seems like a Model S is my only option (obviously a Model 3 would be ideal but those won t be remotely ready in May haha). I m totally down with a CPO in theory but for obvious reasons the AP 2.0 is a must for me so that severely limits my options since I m not aware of many used AP 2.0 cars for sale. My current plan is to lease a Model S 60D (I m in the northeast area so 4WD is a big deal for me) with FSD capability but I m a total car noob so if there s a reason I should do loans instead or a way for me to easily get a AP 2.0 used floor model whatever else you think would fit I m all ears for suggestions. So yeah let me know how stupid I am if you have suggestions on how I can at least make it less stupid. Thanks! | 2017-03-28 18:01:36 | 9 | Do not do this. The level of self driving that a Tesla will be able to do is a complete unknown and if it works it is at least a year away. Are you aware that as of today AP2 cannot even drive on the highway above 55 MPH nor will it warn you if you try and change lanes and there s a car next to you? Beyond that in no universe is a Tesla a financially prudent purchase. Save your money fund your retirement and only then should you consider a $60K car. This would be different if the Tesla could really give you freedom of mobility that you don t currently have but unfortunately it can t right now and us unlikely to in any near term. The Tesla will depreciate more in that year than it will cost you to purchase a used Honda Civic and crush it at the end of the year if Teslas do suddenly start driving themselves. If a self driving car is the only way to get yourself around then wait until one actually exists and does what you need not on the promise that a Tesla might someday waiting for a firmware update that might never come. | 2017-03-28 18:18:44 | 42 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 17,018 |
Ever since getting 8.0 I can t view charge status or use any other features of the Android app. | Anyone else experiencing this issue? I m on Android N. When I unplug the car everything else seems to work fine. | 2016-10-30 20:53:43 | 7 | Stock Nexus 6P user here and I have no issue | 2016-10-30 22:10:58 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,082 |
[Meta-Discussion] Should we have a mega-thread for Model 3 order updates? | Lots of people are excited that their orders are finally turning into cars after a very long wait and even more people who are still waiting are excited to read these updates. The mods seem to be aggressively deleting order update posts which is understandable but also disappointing for those of us who are interested in seeing them. In the interest of giving people a place to share order updates without clogging up the subreddit with lots of repetitive posts would it make sense to create a mega-thread for this topic? | 2018-07-20 21:46:54 | 37 | Less \*Fewer\* megathreads! Two of them is already two too many. I want more things in my feed not less. | 2018-07-20 22:27:20 | 25 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 25,083 |
Terafactory information | I met a guy who s working on the site the other day and he told me a few interesting things: \-Apparently the bus on site is Elon s office and the second one (when it s there) is where he stays overnight when in town. \-Elon monitors the site at all hours and will call at 3am if it looks like not a lot of work is going on. \-The project is behind schedule. He didn t say how much but it is. \-The other areas being cleared are for pods (his term) where more manufacturing buildings will be made outside the main structure. No word yet on headquarters being relocated from California. | 2020-11-14 19:48:28 | 51 | Good. Up your game Texas we need faster progress. | 2020-11-14 21:19:06 | 22 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 18,279 |
[Discussion] Any owners who bought the new $2K Auto Pilot package have it activated yet? | I never bought EAP Auto Pilot when getting my Model 3 last year but I saw this morning a watered down version of it is available for $2K which seems a lot more attractive to me. So I bought it! But when buying it it said it can take up to 3 days to activate. Just curious has anyone bought it yet and had it become active? Doesn t seem to be the case for me so far bought it about 12 hours ago and it doesn t seem active | 2019-03-06 20:36:59 | 36 | When you do get it let us know if you have Auto Lane Change so we can settle this. | 2019-03-06 20:48:54 | 14 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 24,154 |
$30 month electricity cost: driving and free charging data for two Model 3s | We re very fortunate here in northern California to have a lot of free charging options. Both my girlfriend and I have free work charging available lots of shopping centers around etc. I was curious what my yearly cost would be for home electricity and since I started using Teslafi in early March of last year I was finally able to run the numbers. Using Teslafi I looked at the data from my car driving last year from March 2 2019 to March 2 2020 and my GF s 3 from the end of June until now. I also kept track during the same time period of any free charging in a note on my phone. [I drove 19591.42 miles using 5363.6 kWh ](https: i.imgur.com WYSW0Ht.jpg)(total added 7081.21 kWh) in my AWD non-performance. 2689.42 kWh was from supercharging (85 charges at 68 different superchargers). For that same time period the car added 2770.48 kWh from free charging. We paid for 1621.31 kWh at home throughout the year electricity is roughly 10¢ kWh so it cost $162.13. That s $13.51 a month in extra electricity driving 20k miles per year. My GF s SR+ we picked up at the end of June last year. [It s been driven 3773.87 miles using 1087.92 kWh](https: i.imgur.com bUJBY2V.jpg) (total added 2182.35 kWh). For that same time period the car added 930.03 kWh from free charging 63.26 kWh in supercharging. We paid for 1189.06 kWh (lots of summon drain and battery conditioning I guess) or roughly $119 over 8 months. $15 in extra electricity per month. TL DR: Thanks to lots of free charging two Model 3s costs us about $30 a month in electricity at home. | 2020-03-08 00:04:04 | 99 | SMUD actually pays us to charge (12a-6a)!! https: www.smud.org en Rate-Information Electric-Vehicle-Rates | 2020-03-08 00:11:03 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 105 |
Bring back the “Performance” Easter egg for the Model 3 | I ve been wondering if this would ever be a thing on the Model 3 - something to emulate the acceleration of the AWD and RWD (which have slower 0-60s than the P3 of course). Turns out that u Packerfan735 is someone who has [allegedly](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments bvw923 feature_request_let_us_set_the_power_of_the_car epu847g ) experienced just that - via a very particular and elusive Easter egg. Unfortunately the feature was short-lived and has apparently since been disabled in further updates. A quote from Packerfan735: > I d love to have some confirmation that it does or has existed. It s driving me insane that I ve seen it with my own eyes but no one can back me up on that. My reason for posting is two-fold: 1: Can anyone else recall this particular Easter egg? 2: Can we bring it back!! For giggles I d love to see how other Model 3s perform or to ***temporarily*** have a semi-chilled less twitchy mode and then go back to the awesome acceleration of the standard Performance mode. | 2019-06-08 08:23:45 | 11 | So I have some information on this not sure how accurate it is though: When I was test driving the Model X my sales advisor put me in a P100DL and was able switch between all variants of the car (75 100 P100 P100L) through some secret menu. After I got my car tried doing that myself but couldn t find the menu. He told me that option was a “test car bypass” that doesn t exist on customer vehicles. Basically this “Easter egg” is for sales to demo the different variants of the vehicle without having to take you on multiple test drives. Unfortunately it s not something Tesla makes available to us though :( | 2019-06-08 09:13:34 | 8 | Tesla Model Comparison | 3,041 |
Remember Gravelgate? Not an actual issue. | I m sure you all remember this article and video [Model 3 Flaw](https: www.google.com amp s electrek.co 2019 03 05 tesla-model-3-design-flaw-underbody amp ). I picked up my Model 3 in October of 18 and have 17 201 miles already. Today I installed my Stealth Hitch and was very interested at seeing how much gravel had collected in both the front and rear of the car. I used an inspection camera and found zero stored up gravel in the front. As part of the install I removed the rear bumper and belly pan. I expected to find a good amount of dirt mud and gravel as living in Minnesota I frequently hit gravel roads we live in an ice box where sand = traction yadda yadda yadda. Instead I found this. https: imgur.com a HVGcWTb Next to no build up at all. Some very light sand enough an air compressor cleaned it up in a few seconds. Edited: If anyone was thinking they needed to pull this pan to clean grab an inspection cam and check first as based on the discussion your mileage may vary! | 2019-04-20 18:14:21 | 125 | Good information. Thanks for the post. | 2019-04-20 18:15:28 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,369 |
June 15th Price Increases - M3LR up $2k MY LR up $3k MYP up $2k MX up $6k MS up $5k | Lots of price increases across the board tonight: **Model 3** * Model 3 Base - No change still $47k * Model 3 LR - $2k increase now $58k * Model 3 Performance - No change still $63k **Model Y** * Model Y LR - $3k increase now $66k * Model Y Performance - $2k increase now $70k **Model X** * Model X - $6k increase now $121k * Model X Plaid - No change now $139k **Model S** * Model S - $5k increase now $105k * Model S Plaid - No Change still $136k | 2022-06-16 05:03:55 | 618 | … MYLR a year ago was 52k … 14k rise?! | 2022-06-16 05:14:34 | 360 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,361 |
Sydney to Melbourne Supercharger link completed | I don t know if anyone else noticed but it seems that the link between Sydney and Melbourne is now up and running: 204km: Artarmon - Goulburn 363km: Goulburn - Wodonga 156km: Wodonga - Euroa 194km: Euroa - Richmond There is a long stretch in there but it s still within the capabilities of the 70D. Has anyone done the trip yet using just the Superchargers? | 2015-09-29 11:58:56 | 30 | I won t do it until they open Gundegai and move the Euroa temp site to Seymour Puckapunyal. Once they do I ll give it a crack one weekend. =) | 2015-09-29 12:20:16 | 7 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 18,093 |
r teslamotors quick recharge speculation thread | Anyone wanna speculate what the big announcement on June 20 will be? My guess is battery swap since I cannot see any other way a Model S can recharge faster than a gas car. | 2013-06-07 19:59:29 | 12 | Metal-Air batteries that you can rent and put in the frunk for long trips or as a backup range extender. | 2013-06-07 23:25:52 | 7 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 89 |
Why are there less cars listed in Tesla s CPO site (new and used inventory) than in sites like EV-CPO? | Is Tesla s site lazy with updating the list? The links on EV-CPO point to real lists that are not visible on Tesla s site. Why is there this discrepancy? | 2017-09-17 19:21:40 | 23 | fewer* | 2017-09-17 19:57:50 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,398 |
Premium connectivity expiration warning | https: i.imgur.com SrJydTs.jpg First time seeing this warning in my Tesla. Not sure if anyone else has gotten it but I now receive a message stating that my premium connectivity will expire in April. I knew this was a thing I ve just never seen it in my car. Has anyone else received this warning in their Tesla? | 2019-12-08 19:57:58 | 41 | considering it costs $10 a month to connect an apple watch to a cell network i d say this is an excellent value. | 2019-12-09 00:44:45 | 41 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,525 |
Just got a call from Tesla about my LR AWD Model Y | I reserved in February and they just called me to see if I m interested in taking my delivery right away or if I d like to postpone it. He said they are about to start production on them. He said the first wave of them might go out as early as July or as late as September. Apparently I have some paperwork to fill out on my Tesla account to prepare myself to take delivery. Thought you all would like to know | 2020-05-08 19:46:40 | 48 | Interesting. I m guessing they are thinking they need to call and assess the pipeline as they start it back up see where people are at in terms of actually buying now—will they hold back given the shutdown work uncertainty etc? I had my Model Y two days after they called me before the shutdown. Back in the early days of Model 3 it was roughly a week. | 2020-05-08 21:10:52 | 11 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 10,433 |
Tesla Supply Chain Sustainability | Hi Tesla fans I´ve been trying to assess the Model S energy cost before getting to the customer including mining components manufacturing assembly and transportation. I am stuck on that last one: I can´t seem to find any information about Tesla´s logistic solutions besides shipping problems with actual ships . Does anyone know or can anyone point me towards the right direction? I obviously tried looking on their website in Musk´s blog posts and shareholder letters and with general google-fu but no luck there. Thanks a lot! | 2015-02-13 14:19:44 | 10 | Transportation is where you got stuck? I figured finding Tesla s mining sources and component manufacturers would be way more difficult? A split between rail road and boat from the revenue split by region would give you a good enough ballpark I would think... | 2015-02-13 14:43:12 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,558 |
Small update on MX reservation | I spoke with someone at Tesla about my MX reservation they said that general reservations (not signature or founder) should be given their ETA in January. That seems absurd to me but other than get the deposit back there s nothing I can do. Couldn t even reassure me that delivery would occur by June 2016. | 2015-10-02 19:22:40 | 9 | Unfortunately this is the way Tesla operates. I m sorry your expectations were for something sooner. And even when you do get to order don t believe the expected delivery date. I ordered an 85D the night of the announcement for early Feb delivery. That became late Feb. Then early March. Then late March. Then early April. I know most of the reason for my slips were because so many people ordered the far higher margin P85D so Tesla dropped the 85D build priority off a cliff to rake in more cash. A friend ordered his P85D in early March and got it before I got my 85D which I ordered in October. Don t believe any Tesla schedule or promise | 2015-10-02 20:39:28 | 7 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 17,301 |
Optimizing solar and battery configurations for the most-cost effective sustainable energy generation system | The main challenge in designing sustainable energy generation systems i.e. solar and battery storage is determining how much PV and how much storage are required to reliably supply power year-round. By considering oversized PV there are theoretically an infinite number of possible configurations. An algorithm was developed to approximate all possible configurations of oversized PV and energy storage and an [inverse relationship between PV and energy storage](http: i.imgur.com oGaj8LA.png) was found. Here is an [animation](https: i.imgur.com OTyTMvb.gif) of what this looks like. This relationship is important to optimize for the cheapest system. Since PV and energy storage have different costs the algorithm computes [the price for each system](http: i.imgur.com O2j5vyx.png) and determines the most cost-effective configuration shown by the red “x”. The data shown here represent the results for a residential home however this solution is scalable to any size. You can find more information about this design here http: docdro.id de71OeI. | 2017-10-06 17:38:19 | 11 | Why wouldn t the amount of storage needed be fixed based on expected demand during off-peak hours? Then scale the solar to provide a full charge and meet demand during peak hours. Am I looking at the problem too simplistically? EDIT: Very interesting read - thanks for sharing! | 2017-10-06 18:41:24 | 3 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 14,451 |
When does the car show up in the Tesla app? | Have my order in for a model 3. Delivery advisor is going to be contacting carriers tomorrow to set a delivery date so I should have the car within the next week or so. When does the car actually display in the Tesla app? I d like to look through everything haha | 2019-05-27 21:16:22 | 13 | The car will become visible after delivery. There is also a setting (mobile access) that needs to be enabled before it appears. | 2019-05-27 21:17:34 | 18 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 23,116 |
Tesla - Please let us repair our own Vehicles | I work in IT support and even dealt with PLC and I really like the interworking of Tesla vehicles. I think if Tesla would offer a way to receive a certificate to repair a Tesla I would pass it. Now imagine when these cars are driving by themselves in a year or so. Shit breaks so rather then calling mobile just let us repair it and let us open a certified repair shop not to compete but to complement Tesla mission. ‘To accelerate the worlds transition to sustainable energy Shoutout to Rich Rebuilds you rock! | 2019-05-10 01:43:50 | 81 | Your call Tesla: 1. Be open to repair shops and make some extra profit licencing tools and improve turn around times. 2. Watch an ever growing fleet of rooted Tesla s build up with all features unlocked for free. | 2019-05-10 05:30:05 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,333 |
Model 3 journey across the US complete! 11 500 miles in ~2 months -> review and pictures! | [Rocky Mountain National Park ](https: i.redd.it t5gyzja3z9m11.jpg) **OVERVIEW** Since my last Road Trip update I wanted to do a Final Conclusion update for the big road trip I took in my Model 3 !I Finished my trip about a month ago. Drove \~11 500 miles around the US in my LR RWD Model 3 from June 11th until Aug 3rd. From NY to the Pacific North West down to SoCal then into Utah back towards home.Visited 19 National Parks and alot of other random places I felt like going to along the way. Currently have over 15k miles on my car in alittle over 3.5 months of ownership. Love this car! No real issues to report. (minor issues featured in my model 3 review write up) Most of this trip was not planned out in any specific way. I just had rough geographical locations of the National Parks I wanted to go to. I would just input one into the Model 3s Navigation and go. Then when done at that one plug next National Park into the Nav and continue onward! I have alot of Model 3 pictures along with stories and other pictures of my trip ( a BUNCH more I still need to write up). & #x200B [Rough route I took.](https: i.redd.it mc762u8lz9m11.png) **ROAD TRIP CONCLUSION WRITE UP HERE** [https: www.model3journey.com model-3-road-trip-conclusion-review ](https: www.model3journey.com model-3-road-trip-conclusion-review ) **MODEL 3 PICTURES ALONG THE WAY HERE** [https: www.model3journey.com model-3-pictures-only ](https: www.model3journey.com model-3-pictures-only ) **SUPERCHARGER PICTURES INFO (alot more I will be adding soon)** [https: www.model3journey.com superchargers ](https: www.model3journey.com superchargers ) **PREVIOUS REDDIT POST OF MY TRIP AROUND 10K mileage mark.** [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 923n4j model\_3\_journey\_across\_the\_us\_10200\_miles\_in\_2 ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 923n4j model_3_journey_across_the_us_10200_miles_in_2 ) I still have more parks stories to get up which I should finally have time to do this weekend early next week. Some more pictures and video to go through as well. Disclaimer -> *No ads or anything on my site. Did it purely for fun as* ***I m no blogger writer by trade so if my wrtiting sucks...sue me lol***\*. Was just streaming my conscious thoughts into text and posting.\* Also no editing on any of the pictures. Just shots captured with my Galaxy S9. VIN 163xx for reference. Edit- Damn reddit. Always taking random photo from my site as thumbnail and not photo I upload and also put into my post. Ugh. | 2018-09-14 21:51:47 | 148 | How do I get a job that allows me to afford a model 3 and take 2 months off. :) Great read Btw | 2018-09-14 21:59:38 | 33 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 12,236 |
No Sub Bass After HW3 Upgrade in M3? | So this sounds crazy but I just had HW3 installed in my model 3 and all of my music sounds flat. I ve tried a few different sources and there doesn t seem to be any kick or bass almost like there isn t a subwoofer. I haven t done much driving in the last couple of months so maybe I m just used to other speakers now but something seems wrong. Is there anyway to test tell if the sub is actually working? I don t want to bother the service center unless I m certain. Edit: Thanks everyone for the replies. After some testing I found the rear speakers are completely off (when I move the balance to the rear everything goes silent). After some troubleshooting with support it looks like I ll need a mobile service. First available is in a couple of weeks but they think something didn t get plugged back in after the upgrade. Edit 2: Mobile tech just left. He said the harness was managed and needs to be replaced so it s going to take a service center visit. | 2020-05-20 22:12:59 | 7 | Download a tone generator app on your phone and play low frequency over Bluetooth. You should be able to tell pretty quickly if your sub is working. And if you have any rattles lol | 2020-05-21 01:40:07 | 3 | Tesla sound system comparisons | 14,056 |
Father s Day Gifts for a Model S Owner? | Hey Guys my father is the proud owner of a Model S and is totally enamored with the car and everything Tesla. I m thinking he would really appreciate something Tesla related for Father s day. My first thought was one of the aftermarket center consoles that are available but when I saw that Telsa themselves are putting out an official one I figured it would be best to just wait for that to come out. Do any of you guys have suggestions for a solid Tesla related gift? Doesn t need to be as expensive as a console (my Dad s definitely one of those it s the though that counts kind of guys) just something that a Tesla fan would find really cool! | 2014-06-10 18:40:00 | 13 | Professional photo shoot with you and your Dad and his favourite member of the family his Tesla. Look into professional photographers including wedding photogs and ask what a day will cost. Let them pick a few places you pick a few places casually ask you Dad what he thinks are the most car-commercially places in your city and go there too. Hit a car wash en route to the first place and have a great day together. If he has a hangout he likes a bar or restaurant etc. plan to have the day s photo shoot end there and invite the family friends to meet him there for a drink dinner. When it s done let him pick his favourite photo and get that framed. The rest of the set will show up as computer backgrounds for years I m guarantee it. | 2014-06-11 04:20:16 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,368 |
Reminder to self: Why I m happy to be an early adopter | I m a 1st day reservation holder. Took delivery of my M3 LR RWD back in april 2018 (Vin # 12xxx). Like SOME of you I m baffled by some of Tesla s recent decisions. The $ reduction does hurt a bit but what doesn t make any sense is the magnitude and pace of the change. I get expense reduction! But why have a mass layoff and at the same time reduce revenue with massive price cuts? (Price of model S in Taiwan reduced almost 50% $100K less). I questioned the execution. Seems like Elon s team is making shit up on-the-fly. If there was a price and product roadmap in place is this how it would be executed? It makes you question Zach Kirkhorn s ability. Of course all this make perfect sense if projections for demand is way down (hope not). Ok.. after all this venting. I take a ride in my M3 and little things like Summon reminded me this is still a freaking awesome car and I m just HAPPY again... life goes on.. https: reddit.com link ax9i2z video mhnu1ut6w4k21 player | 2019-03-04 17:10:31 | 61 | After waiting for 6 minutes for the app to connect my summon disconnects right after the mirrors fold. Glad yours is working so well though. Someone s got to enjoy the features. | 2019-03-04 17:11:51 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,385 |
What Elon said about internet only sales deserves a closer look. | I think there are three unappreciated points when it comes to the announcement of internet only orders and the sales personnel reduction: 1) Tesla is likely to save huge money by not fighting legal battles in states that refuse Tesla stores. You may be surprised to know at this point that Tesla is still banned or limited in [20 states](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_US_dealership_disputes) and lawyers are not cheap! (Edit: or rather court fees are not cheap. Not sure if Tesla uses outside law offices or if mostly lawyers are internal and salaried or both. Maybe if they don t need to fight in 20 states to have stores they will reduce employee headcount of lawyers?) 2) Tesla will still have a store presence. They may close low performing stores and it looks like they will get rid of the traditional car salesman like incentive system but there will still be a places to go to talk about the cars. There will still be “galleries” with employees in them to help inform people and direct them to internet orders. 3) Tesla is increasing the service personal headcount. Taken together with the sales reduction if is unknown if there will be a net increase or decrease in headcount but this is an important point. For your interest here are the direct Elon quotes from the [press conference transcript](https: drive.google.com file d 13Xtl67SA392krzgEH1HY0SEriJdQCKrH view) that I think make these points clear: “And then another key point is where we re moving all sales online. This is extremely extremely profound worldwide. The only way to buy a Tesla will be online and you can buy your car like buy your car on your phone in about one minute in the US and there will make it just as easy to literally one minute purchase and possibly the world as well. We also have stores that there will be converted to galleries and information centers so you can go there and learn about Tesla or learn about electric vehicles. \[Inaudible\] Tesla merchandise but all sales will be online. So if you do go to the store they ll simply show you how to buy the car online and then in order to get the need for a test drive.” “I think this is actually going to online only is incredibly helpful to us for selling anywhere in the US because in many parts of the US we are unable to sell effectively because of franchise laws whereas if the sales concluded online we now have anyone can buy the car anywhere in the United States immediately so this I think really substantially opens up our ability to sell the cars. And It s 2019. People want to buy things online.” “I m sure the franchise dealers will try to franchise or dealers will try to oppose us in some way but this would be a fundamental restraint of interstate commerce and violate constitution. So good luck with that.” “We will be closing some stores. And there will be some reduction in headcount as a result. There s no question about that. Yeah. Uh. Yeah. There s no other way for us to achieve the savings required to provide this car and be financially sustainable. It s the only – I wish there was some other way but unfortunately it will entail a reduction in force on the retail side. No no way around it.” but then... “Oh yeah that was a good point. We will actually be significantly increasing headcount in service technicians and service is directly reporting to me. At this point but I really have as my top priority this year is making service amazing at Tesla.” “It is it is a hard decision but I think it s the right decision for the future and I think ultimately this will be a very strong competitive strength of Tesla because we do not have franchise dealers. So I think this is this will be a fundamental long term competitive advantage of Tesla that that maybe only a startup - only a startup could replicate. No one who has sold franchises could could replicate. I think this was an extremely important strategic decision and definitely the right one.” | 2019-03-03 20:05:25 | 76 | Back in the day when you wanted to buy a car you d have to go to several dealerships and pick the one you d like deal with the sales men. Now with the internet so much information available and easily accessible via YouTube for example you can order a vehicle online and return it if you don t like it without being haggled. It shows maturity in the company and has made their weakness their strength. Look at Amazon they are a step above any other retail store they bring the product to you instead of inefficiently placing the same limited products across all retail stores like a Wal-Mart. People are smart and I think they get it they ll carry over that online experience they already know well and apply it to buying a car on the internet. | 2019-03-03 20:35:05 | 63 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,431 |
I need help I can t get my return to process. No one replies to [email protected] ever. | I ordered the 8 external charger by accident I need the 24 and I m trying to initiate a return using the [return & cancellation](https: shop.tesla.com us en tesla-store-help.html#faqlistersection_2137025927) process but there are no replies yet and it s been almost a week. I tried calling them but just tell me to use [email protected] and that there s nothing they can do. I ve actually emailed them several times and have never received a single reply or update. I love the car but their online store s customer service experience is probably THE worst I have ever experienced. | 2018-12-03 14:48:31 | 6 | Could be worse. I ve been trying to get my solar shingle deposit refund for 6 months now. | 2018-12-03 15:22:08 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,127 |
I have the financial means to get an S and its getting really hard to not give up my Model 3 reservation. | Can anyone talk some sense into me? | 2017-06-16 03:31:12 | 22 | The only reason I ve heard to pick the 3 over the S is that it s smaller which is also why my wife is considering it. And price. And door pockets. | 2017-06-16 04:43:53 | 34 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 8,905 |
Battery Storage presentation slight change of rules. | After watching different Gigafactory tour videos recorded by different groups. I ve noticed a slight change. While explaining how the battery storage works [Posted by Elon Musk Resources & Commentary](https: youtu.be MD0q8_f7ZfI?t=508) you see - people were allowed to touch the battery cell. Same as [Posted by Electric Motors Club](https: youtu.be ib1KKHGYmLQ?t=1341) And then... things changed. Probably someone did a no no.. and I can only assume someone tried stealing one? or Maybe accidentally walking off with it? On this video you see her scared the living hell out of the old man when she yelled [ PLEASE DON T TOUCH ](https: youtu.be AjQemc5GNyw?t=2381) and laughed it off - stating it s not going to shock you but they don t want people walking away with it. Pretty sure more tour video will show up in the next few days maybe we can see a video of what happened? | 2016-08-02 06:03:12 | 10 | These are new cells. More advanced chemistry. Changes to the formation process. Maybe a fuse hidden inside. Unlike the previous Panasonic cells these clearly hide a few valuable trade secrets and Tesla does not want anybody getting their hands on them before they start mass-producing them. No reason to give competitors an edge. | 2016-08-02 11:45:38 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,720 |
Quick EV stats from 5 miles of Bay Area Traffic. | In California EVs and plug-in hybrids are allowed to use the carpool lane (HOV) even with one passenger. During my commute I always see tons of EVs zoom by me as I sit in traffic in my traditional hybrid and decided to tally the number of the most recognizable (to me) EVs and plug-in hybrids passing me in the HOV lane only. Model S was the second most represented EV and overall seeing how many are making the move away from gas dependency gave me a good feeling. Distance: 5 Miles Location: I-280S CA-85N interchange to the Moffett Field exit - HOV lane only Duration: 20 minutes Tesla Model X: 4 Tesla Model S: 26 Tesla Model 3: 0 (I sometimes see a blue one - not this day) Chevy Volt: 28 Nissan Leaf: 53 Prius Prime: 3 BMW i3: 8 BMW i8: 1 | 2017-08-29 18:06:45 | 58 | The EV market in the Bay Area is relatively saturated already I think I ve seen just about every EV available for purchase in the 101 carpool lane within the last couple of months. Heck you probably saw more EV s than you counted in addition to what you mentioned I regularly see Bolts VW e-Golfs Focus Fusion plug ins Fiat 500e and just last week saw my first Hyundai Ionic plug in. | 2017-08-29 18:47:31 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,019 |
Navigation and premium connectivity | My free 1 year of premium connectivity expired. Navigation is standard but live traffic visualization is not. The question is whether the car will take traffic into account even without displaying it. Please let me know if you have experience with this. | 2020-12-10 19:00:16 | 6 | It will still take traffic into account just not show you. | 2020-12-10 19:03:40 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,621 |
I caught my first Tesla today! | This trap has been over a year in the making. First I created an enticing nest a new garage with plenty of their favorite food: 9kV of solar panels and a 14-50 240v outlet. Then I set the bait on Plugshare and waited patiently for months. Finally a bite! I reeled [her](http: i.imgur.com cvkQRef.jpg) in and gazed at her stately beauty. Of course it was catch and release but not without taking her for a good run. Even after all I have read and the videos I ve seen I still wasn t prepared and let out a little giggle when she dug in and took off. Some day soon I ll tame one of these wild beasts for myself but until then at least I can send them off rested and with a full belly. | 2014-10-29 23:04:32 | 108 | Love it. | 2014-10-29 23:13:04 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,783 |
Question about the Cybertruck body | How will using stainless steel for the Cybertruck body influence crumple zones? ELI5 would be nice but I m willing to learn. Disclosure: I don t know squat about cars. | 2020-06-05 14:55:50 | 10 | At the moment I think the general concensus is that we don t know enough about the Cybertruck s design to know exactly how its crumple zones will work. However given Tesla s *exceptional* safety record with all of their vehicles my money is on Cybertruck being exceptionally safe for its passengers and not unduly dangerous for other vehicles in a crash. | 2020-06-05 15:29:41 | 24 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck | 15,822 |
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can t find video with Elon saying We need to make an electric Smart car in six weeks (interview about Tesla) | there was a video on YouTube with Elon Musk interview about Tesla and it contained the story about the Daimler collaboration how he told someone We need to make an electric Smart car in six weeks and they had to buy the car in mexico and drive into USA after they made it and it was so powerful that it was doing wheelies in the car park | 2018-02-16 11:05:43 | 25 | It was from a shareholder meating in 2016 if that is any help. He told the entire history of Tesla. Edit: It was not an interview so I don t know if we are talking about the same video. | 2018-02-16 11:46:10 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,334 |
Kudos to the showroom staff | I was visiting the showroom in Columbus Ohio looking for answers around installing the elusive roof rack. Not only did they work with the service department to answer my questions they also offered to follow up with an email with directions. These people are the frontlines for Tesla could not be happier with their service 😊 | 2018-12-20 16:24:49 | 17 | They didn t just direct you to this? [https: www.tesla.com support model-3-roof-rack-installation](https: www.tesla.com support model-3-roof-rack-installation) | 2018-12-20 23:09:35 | 2 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 10,640 |
Intelligently choosing which Supercharger stall to use | When you pull into a Supercharger at which cars are already charging it would be great if you didn t have to guess which is the optimal stall to pull into to get the fastest charge rate. If there s a Supercharger not already being used it s easy you just use that one. But if there is already a car at each Supercharger if you pull in and share one ~~each car will charge more slowly~~ the car already there will take all the power it needs and you only receive what s left over (Bjorn has a video. https: www.youtube.com watch?v=07T8yKvKCz0). It would be great if Tesla s software would tell you the optimal one to use in this case. Say it s a four bay Supercharger with 1A 1B 2A 2B and cars are already charging on 1A & 2A. If the car on 1A is at 90% full and 2A is at 20% it s better for everyone if the third car plugs in at 1B since 1A is nearly done charging and doesn t need as much power anyway. Tesla has the data on the state of charge of the cars already plugged in. Why don t they use it to advise the optimal stall to choose? This would speed up turnover at the Superchargers and make everyone happier. | 2018-04-21 11:48:32 | 102 | I ve been saying this for awhile now. It just isn t on their highest priorities | 2018-04-21 12:07:35 | 45 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 9,768 |
My experience with model 3 after bmw 530e | So I followed your advice and called our local service center and asked if they had any inventory as it turned out they had so many brand new cars available that I could pick any trim color combo I wanted (plus a bunch of demos). I filled out the financing application online and picked up the car couple hours later. Everyone at the store were shocked that I bought the car so fast. Thank you guys for the advice didn t know it s possible! I am coming from bmw 530e (g30) series. Tesla is awd long range. Here is my comparison although I understand that bmw 5 is a different type of car and I compare mid-size luxury sedan to an entry level luxury compact sedan but both cars cost almost the same. **Acceleration**: Tesla hands down a lot faster has no turbo lag and gives you a lot more thrill. Winner: Tesla **Handling**: I am not a pro but I think both cars have perfect balance of comfort ease of handling and fun. BMW feels bigger and heavier though. BMW is more of a highway cruiser. Tesla s suspension is pretty firm and sporty. Winner: Tesla. **Interior**: Nappa\Dakota leather feels much softer and nicer than what Tesla uses. Plastic is soft touch in both cars. The only disappointment is that the white plank on the dashboard behind the steering wheel of tesla is not soft touch\leather. BMW also has cool interior lightning. BMW is very quiet inside in tesla you can hear wind and road noise while on a highway sometimes it s ok sometimes it bothers me so I have to turn up the music. Yes bmw has some engine noise when you accelerate but it is quiet and very pleasant sounding. I wish tesla provided an option to mimic engine noises of cool cars (instead of farts) for when I feel nostalgic for ICE. Sits comfort headroom trunk space all fantastic in Tesla. BMW feels a little more tight for some reason and trunk space is subpar due to the battery. Winner: BMW but difference is not that big both cars feel very premium I just can t get used to the road wind noise yet. **Exterior**: Overall I am satisfied with Tesla however some gaps a little too big and uneven for my taste also some weird stuff is poking out from the inside the door insulation of some sort. Door handles in tesla is a bit hard to use I might need some time to get used to them. Also keyless access is easier in bmw. I often have to turn on off airplane mode to enter tesla. Trunk in bmw opens by waving your leg under it very convenient when shopping . Winner: BMW **Infotainment**: Both cars have apps to control the cars fast and high quality displays. Tesla s screen is a lot bigger which I like. BMW also has Apple Car Play and smartphone mirroring which is a plus. Navigation in tesla looks cooler with google earth but suggested routes are very weird sometimes it seems like Tesla doesn t know that you can make a turn earlier makes you go around the block for no reason or suggests driving through a neighborhood with many stop signs also I didn t notice any traffic info on tesla (I might be wrong). Voice control in Tesla is very limited. I tried opening changing different settings of the car and tesla only showed me “Try again” message. BMW did everything I asked. It s easier to control everything while driving in BMW using the real buttons and voice commands. Surprisingly it s hard to switch tracks on BMW using the steering wheel because you have to go through a small menu of head up display. I love over the air updates of Tesla. Gesture controls of BMW I think is a pretty useless gimmick and I am not a fan of HUD since you still have to switch focus of your eyes and forced to buy only non-polarized glasses. Winner: I think BMW is more practical and Tesla is cooler. **Sound system**: I am not an audiophile but Tesla sound system is much better for my taste although I did not hear B& W system in bmw it s out of my price range. Bluetooth streaming is also great in Tesla. Making calls in Tesla is a big disappointment people could barely hear me behind all the noise. BMW is the opposite noise cancellation is so good they couldn t tell I am driving. Winner: Tesla **Parking**: Both cars have parking sensors and automatic parking systems. Tesla shows the actual distance number which is nice. However BMW has a very high quality surround view and 3D view cameras which makes parking a breeze also rear view in tesla is pretty bad a lot of blind spots (but it s not a big issue since there is a camera). I am not sure if there is a cross traffic alert in tesla I think there is none. However tesla is much smaller vehicle so it s not that hard to park overall. Winner: BMW. **Autopilot\cruise control**: Tesla is the best enough said. **Changing lanes**: Tesla has cool blind spot monitoring on the screen but it s really hard to look both at the screen and mirrors. It can be so easily fixed by adding some audio alerts. Winner: BMW for now hope tesla will address it in the next update. **Cool factor**: Glass roof visibility technology design are amazing and unusual in tesla. People didn t pay any attention to me when I was driving BMW but tesla is a real head-turner. BMW s electric driving capabilities are very limited it was like 13 miles of slow driving during the summer and about 8 during the winter. Winner: Tesla. I think Tesla is a car of the future a car that puts smile on my face. I don t regret switching to it at all I hope I will never have to go back to an ICE car. I love my Tesla! **Update:** I d like to add that I love driving using clean energy and was trying to use only electricity in the BMW. I do care about environment so I am very grateful I don t have to use gas anymore. | 2018-12-26 18:48:11 | 114 | The audio alert for blindspots is such a no-brainer kinda surprised emission testing got released yet still no directional alert for it .... | 2018-12-26 19:21:53 | 37 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 13,399 |
Charge Reminder | Apologies if this has already been posted... Every so often after I pull into the garage I get distracted (a neighbor walks up I have to run after my garbage can as the wind is taking it away for a ride...) In any event I forget to charge my Tesla until I am in the process of trying to get to work the following morning and don t have enough charge to get there. (I live in a relatively rural area and my commute is ~100 miles.) So the couple of times that I have forgotten to charge I end up having to get to work late which I would like to avoid. I really want a feature where I get a phone notification when the car is parked at home and the battery is below 50% and it is not plugged in. I tried using the Stat s app notification but it doesn t work for me. Seems like something Tesla could do relatively easily. Anybody else relate? | 2020-01-21 22:33:52 | 67 | Just set a recurring reminder alarm every night through stock phone app? Plugging in should feel just as normal as brushing your teeth before bed. If you don t brush your teeth before bed please do. | 2020-01-21 23:01:07 | 41 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,762 |
**UPDATE on part found on passenger floor of my Model S after a service visit | Original post here: [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 97sto2 is\_this\_a\_part\_from\_my\_model\_s ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 97sto2 is_this_a_part_from_my_model_s ) Back in for a follow up service and I asked the technician. He looked at if for a second and said I know what this is! It s a hinge pin for the glove box. He popped off a piece of trim and put it back in in under a minute. & #x200B Mystery solved! | 2018-09-27 12:08:57 | 72 | I like that the top comment in your original post is > Its an Alignment dowel. Put it in the glove box and not worry about it. | 2018-09-27 13:07:27 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 213 |
Shout Out To All Owners Who Got Us This Far | To everyone who purchased the roadster S X (and to an extent even everyone who line-waited to pre order the model 3 sight unseen)... a sincere thank you. Because of you all a guy like me has a chance to own the car I ve been wanting for years now. Oh yeah and helping to usher in the era of the EV. Thanks for taking a chance on an upstart car company being a beta tester of sorts living through the head aches and growing pains and allowing Tesla to get to this point. Obviously we aren t curing AIDS here but in any event you all helped to get us to this point and that s pretty awesome too. Here s to you all and to 2018 the year many of us who weren t in a position to get any previous Tesla to finally get ours! | 2018-01-09 02:44:08 | 222 | Thank you good sir! ^^or ^^madam When you get your Tesla and I flash my lights at you or wave at you please wave back or flash back. | 2018-01-09 03:06:03 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,162 |
Tesla in Forumla E? | So i was wondering if they would ever compete in such competitions. I know that at the moment it is their goal and they have no time but after model 3 release they will have time to breath a bit and hopefully the company will be smooth sailing on tons of orders. Is it possible in the future? Just wanted to know what the sub thinks about this. Edit: I see it has somewhat been discussed a while back a refresh on the topic could be nice. | 2015-10-25 22:38:56 | 9 | I think that the Formula E setup as it is right now has every team with the same car leaving no room for Tesla to showcase their technology (That currently is not designed to stay cool through multiple hot laps on track). Tesla would have to put a lot of money into R& D to develop a track friendly version and then would have to sell Formula E on adapting to their drive powertrain series wide or open it up to multiple technologies to be worthwhile. Neither of those are very likely and I think if marketing is the only excuse there are better options for those marketing dollars. | 2015-10-26 03:56:48 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,880 |
[Discussion] In states where you can t buy direct from Tesla which state gets the sales tax revenue? | I remember seeing a post where someone buying a Tesla from Texas has to complete paperwork from California. So does that mean sales tax was collected by California and Texas will recognize that sales tax was already collected and just charge the difference if there s a higher sales tax rate? | 2018-05-11 00:04:10 | 9 | The state where you register the car. In these scenarios Tesla does not collect sales tax as it is an out of state online purchase. If from a specific dealer in that state (used) sales tax will be collected at the time of purchase if an in person purchase. | 2018-05-11 00:09:09 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,469 |
Tesla Body Shop Repair Update | About 2 weeks ago I posted about an accident with my model 3. At the time I noted that I brought it to a Tesla owned body shop in NYC. Here is my original post https: reddit.com r TeslaModel3 comments dokt1f got_side_swiped_by_a_ford_mustang_going_well_over A number of people commented that because I needed body panels (and as it turns out suspension voltage system and other parts) that I should expect a long wait time (one person said “months.”). My car was towed to Tesla on Oct. 26 (a Saturday). The Geico Adjustor saw it on October on Wednesday October 30. I just received a call that my Tesla is ready today Friday November 8. All in it took Tesla nine days to complete the body work from when the insurance Adjustor said they could go. Nine days is pretty amazing for the all the work that had to be done. A lot of people have also commented that Tesla s are very expensive to repair. My repair which was replacing a fender and a bumper steering suspension high voltage system parts rim and tire was $7200 which again I think seems quite reasonable. So I give this five stars to Tesla! | 2019-11-08 22:10:17 | 182 | It s almost like the only time we hear complaints about service are when there s an issue - not the thousands of times it gets done without any issue! Glad you got your car back so quickly OP. | 2019-11-08 22:36:00 | 40 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 18,427 |
I just bought a (custom order) Tesla Model X! What do you wish you knew when you bought yours? What have you found out? What should I know? | So as the title says I ve just bought my first Tesla - a Model X75D with the premium package the mid-tier wheels and assisted navigation (but not full self-driving since I have no idea when legislation will catch up). I take delivery in early February so I m basically tearing my hair out until then. I m curious -- What do you folks wish you knew before you bought yours? What cool stuff did you find out after taking delivery? What was different from what you expected? What should I expect? I mean I know generally but what specific advice or pro-tips would you give me? --- And a couple of specific questions if you don t mind terribly: -(For model X owners): How reliable is your model X? -Did you lease or finance? If you could do it over would you choose differently? (lease vs. finance) -Did you get the 75D or something else? Am I insane to sacrifice 60 miles of range for $15 000? I live in Vancouver Washington (right by Portland) so I m guessing superchargers are all over my area and anywhere I may want to go is likely within half my range. Anyone else feel this way? If you think I m wrong PLEASE share your opinion! -Is there any down-side to not pre-buying the full self-driving capability? It doubles the number of ACTIVE cameras but the actual number of cameras doesn t change right? And the regular autopilot can t make use of the rest of them anyway? Is there any advantage you can think of to buying the full self-driving capability out of the gate? --- Thanks so much for taking the time to read this and answer my silly and nervously excited questions. I m so completely stoked for this car. I ve wanted one since the day it came out -- though I m going to lament every single day that the falcon wing doors are wasted on the back when I have no children or reason to open the back doors very often haha | 2017-12-14 04:13:48 | 7 | I have a 60D. Still haven t upgraded to 75. I might if they drop it to $2k. But I live in Idaho. There s a supercharger where I live but making it to Boise or Tremonton before SLC is tight. But still totally doable. I ve gone to the Grand Canyon Vegas Seattle. Never ran out of juice. You ll be fine with a 75. Most of your other questions can be learned by reading here and places like Teslamotorsclub. Here s what I think is most important. 1. Carry good insurance with a rental policy up to $5k. If you re in a wreck even if it s not your fault you could be out of pocket for 3-4 months of a rental. Tesla is SLOW on getting parts out. 2. If it s cold where you live learn the winter driving tricks. Cold weather sucks juice. Use range mode keep it at 70 degrees use your seat warmers since they take less energy. Reduce regen braking if the roads are slick. 3. If you do a lot of driving around town make use of the suspension GPS memory and raise it high anywhere there are dips potholes steep driveways etc. It ll remember and raise up when you go there again. I love it. At slow in town speeds it doesn t affect range and it ll lower on its own on the highway. 4. Be ready for people to be interested in the FWD s. They re cool. If you don t like the attention change the setting to not raise them so high. Everything you could almost ever want to know has been posted a hundred times. I know because that s how I learned. Just search and read. | 2017-12-14 08:02:44 | 6 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 8,920 |
Update: 2000mi (3220km) Model 3 roadtrip COMPLETE! | I had posted a couple of weeks ago asking for advice about my [roadtrip] (https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8cfmos 2000mi_3220km_model_3_roadtrip_advice ) to go pick up my Model 3 that I bought on eBay. Well... that trip has been successfully completed! For those too lazy to read my previous post I m a non-owner that didn t want to wait until 2019 to get my Model 3 and ended up finding a pretty good deal on eBay for one with 73 miles on it and no EAP. My total drive time was ~35 hours and my total trip lasted ~45 hours. All I had with me was a backpack filled with clothes and two blankets. Temperatures ranged from 68F (20C) to 95F (35C) during the day and 56F (13C) to 63F (17C) at night. I will try to give an unbiased insight of various things I ve noticed. For reference my two previous vehicles are a leased 2015 Kia Cadenza with a ~300 horsepower V6 (the most underrated car I have ever driven) and a used 2006 BMW 330XI with all-wheel drive and ~260 horsepower. It s completely unorganized beyond here... deal with it. Two weeks ago I received the title in the mail and immediately went to the DMV and registered my car. Then I called Tesla customer service to let them know I needed this car added to my account. I was on hold for about 25 minutes before talking to a human. They told me documents I would need to submit and sent me an email with the same instructions. I then immediately emailed all the things (Driver s license Vehicle Title and proof of Registration) to the address in the instructions. I was told I would have mobile app access within 5 business days and that the car would take up to two weeks to fully transfer to my account. A week later the night before I was to fly to Phoenix to get my car I still didn t have mobile app access. So I called customer service again... but after holding for 35 minutes I had to hang up because I had other things I had to do. I tried again a little later but then gave up after 25 minutes. I tried later for a third time and stayed on for 25 minutes before I got through to a customer service rep who was able to quickly get me the mobile app access. He too stated that transfering the car fully to my Tesla account would take a couple of weeks because of the large number of requests they ve been having. It ll be exactly two calendar weeks tomorrow from when I submitted my documents for transfer and I have not received any updates. Very early the next morning I flew down to Phoenix. The previous owner of the Model 3 picked me up at the airport in his Model S. We went straight to the car which was parked in the blazing Phoenix sun at his house. He went over some of the major points of the car just things I would need in order to get home safely. I looked over the car very quickly (at this point it didn t matter if the car had defects because I had paid him a week before and already registered the car in my state). The only thing that I noticed on the outside is that the charging port door doesn t close flush. I ll get that taken to a service center once the car is added onto my account. I swapped out his temp license plates with mine and warned him the car was still on his account and so Supercharging would get charged to him. He then semi-jokingly offered to give me his Model S instead but I gratefully declined. I paired my phone to the car and was ready to go. I ve never had a bluetooth device pair so quickly to my phone before it took maybe 5 seconds and it was truly impressive. I then tapped Navigation . I entered my home address to see how it would navigate me but I also had a route planned and printed out from ABetterRoutePlanner.com. The two routes matched up pretty well except the Tesla one seemed ok with sending me longer periods between charges which I was not very comfortable with. First thing I noticed about the nav system is that I can t add waypoints along my route which is slightly inconvenient. This meant that I would have to add each planned stop (other than superchargers) as my destination instead of just leaving my home address in there. Then I was on my way! As a non-owner and someone who has never driven a Tesla before it didn t take very long at all to get used to regenerative braking. I drive ICE vehicles in a similar way where I modulate the gas pedal and use engine braking to avoid having to use brakes. The thing that did catch me off guard was not feeling a transmission kick you would when other cars shift gears especially the kickdown from pressing the pedal to the floor... I used 10 superchargers along the way and two ChargePoint stations. I never went below a 12% charge the whole trip. I spent two nights sleeping in the car at campgrounds while using their RV plugins to charge up. After using ChargePoint and the campground 14-50 plugins I appreciate the Superchargers so much more. The first campground didn t even get me charged enough to get to my next stop even though it theoretically should have but that town also had a supercharger that I ended up going to for 40 minutes before hitting the road. I didn t have any issues at any of the charging stations. I met a couple of friendly Tesla owners at a few stops and they were curious to see what the Model 3 was like. In fact I stayed talking too long at one stop and got a warning on my Tesla app that idle fees were incurred. I m not sure how much or if they were waived because there were 8 12 stalls still open. I think all-in-all I spent about $45 or $50 total for the Superchargers and $3.50 for the Chargepoint. The Kia would ve cost me at least $150 more likely $170 in gasoline for the same distance. I use the mobile charger and a regular 110v 12A outlet at home but have access to a free level 2 charger at work. I loved having a constant source of radio that wasn t SiriusXM because I really hate AltNation Madison s nasally voice. There were a few spots along the way mainly through Kansas and the mountains in Arizona where I lost LTE signal in the car. Most often it defaulted to 3G I did see Edge once or twice and for a bit I was completely without signal. This meant no streaming radio for some of the trip... but Slacker Radio was having issues anyways which I was unaware of until later. The sound system itself is pretty nice but I think it s about the same as my Kia which has a 12.1 speaker Infinity system. The Model 3 s system sounds good but you have to turn it up a bit when driving. The system is really noticeable when you re not moving though the bass really pounds and the treble is super clear. There s an immersive mode with off mid and high settings. I don t know what that does as I can t notice a difference in sound between when I change that setting. I wish there was a setting to adjust speed-dependent volume like I had on the Kia and the BMW. Sleeping in the car... was less than ideal. I ve slept in some awful spots before but I think the excitement of a new car wanting to get on the road and finish my drive and someone stealing my campsite in Colorado (forcing me to try and find one that was empty) just added to my bad sleep. On the first night I didn t fold down the back seats I just laid across the back and it wasn t too bad. The second night I decided to stretch out a bit but the bump from the folded down seats made it uncomfortable. It just meant I wasn t going to oversleep... The only time I regretted not having EAP was while driving through Kansas and parts of Nebraska. Kansas was absolutely miserable because of severely high wind gusts... I was getting very mad at Kansas because I could hear dust and debris sandblasting the side of my new ride. I also hit a couple of tumbleweeds. Wtf Kansas? The winds were blowing the car around and I had to fight a lot to keep it going straight would ve been awesome if EAP could ve just done that for me. I ended up turning off the Lane Departure Warning because I was struggling to stay in the lane and the constant vibrating warning was really annoying. The high winds really killed my expected range to where the navigation said I d make it but I felt more comfortable making a 10-minute stop at a free ChargePoint that was on my way. I should note that I had the car in the Standard steering mode the whole trip. When it wasn t Kansas outside I was able to easily keep the car in control with one hand gently on the bottom of the steering wheel. I like being able to quickly adjust the cruise speed using the right scroll wheel instead of pushing pulling a lever or button to speed up or slow down. The interior of the car looks fantastic. The seats feel nice and firm but it did take a lot of adjustments to get it just right for my comfort. I definitely miss the extendable thigh support of my Kia. The Kia also had ventilated seats which I don t miss quite yet but it s also not completely summer around here. The heated seats are the quickest I ve ever experienced. Turn them on and you ll feel like within 3 seconds The Kia would take a good 5 minutes on the highest setting. The material looks really nice and doesn t feel cheap. Even though I know it s not leather it still feels like it. I like that like my Kia there is an easy access mode that lets you move the steering wheel and seat to make getting in and out of the car easier. The headrest feels a little off-center for me and it has me questioning whether I just have a crooked head or if I don t sit with proper posture... both of which are very possible. The trim on the driver s side A-pillar isn t completely flush like the other side is almost like it popped out of place a little. Nothing too bad but I ll bring it up when I take it in for the charging port issue. I know there were complaints about the material not being microsuede but this stuff doesn t look cheap at all. My Kia has Alcantara trim and it s a pain in the butt to clean if you happen to get a scuff of dirt on it. I was surprised how small the rearview mirror is not bad just different. There is a small band around the both the inside mirror and the driver s side mirror that doesn t darken when the anti-glare turns on and that can be distracting if you don t have your mirrors adjusted just perfectly because you ll get a sliver of bright lights in your eyes if you move your head wrong. I ve never had a car with the center armrest so perfect. Seriously. It s in the best spot and the perfect length every single car I ve had has had an armrest that was too short or too low. I m a little concerned how well the wood trim across the dash will hold up between brutal summer sun and bitter winter cold over the years but we ll cross that bridge when we get to it. I m not entirely sure which settings get saved under a driver s profile other than for sure the seats. The manual says you can tap see what s saved but there is no such option anywhere. The screen... What can I say that hasn t been said already? I know there s concern about it being a distraction which admittedly it was at first when I was still playing around with it and trying to find all the different settings and goodies. But once you know where everything is it becomes intuitive and is no more of a hazard than any other screen. My Kia has an 8 screen in the center and I m more distracted by that tiny thing than I am with the screen in the Model 3. Having to look at the speed is not an issue at all since it s large and easy to see. There are definitely a few bugs though right now and I ve had to restart the screen twice in the week that I ve had the car. One time the car showed I had LTE but the streaming radio didn t work and the navigation showed I couldn t get traffic updates due to lack of connectivity. Restarting it fixed the issues. It would be nice to see my phone s current battery and signal like on the Kia. That s all I can think of right now because I m still pretty loopy from sinus surgery earlier today. [Couple of pics](https: imgur.com a 2jTJgaN) | 2018-05-05 02:03:03 | 190 | Great read! Thanks for sharing! | 2018-05-05 02:26:46 | 18 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,804 |
Experiences of folks fighting D.C.-VA I-95 Traffic with Autopilot? Does it make it bearable? | Okay so I m starting to craft a master plan to make owning a Tesla a realistic thing for me. I live in Richmond VA and as part of my job I have to travel to D.C. once a week (120 miles each way). I currently take the train but my work would reimburse me for mileage 53.5 cents mile. Assuming I continue doing that 4 times month that s $513 tax free dollars I can put toward my Tesla making the payment relatively realistic. Furthermore I would be leaving my house around 5:30 a.m. to go to D.C. and leaving to come back at 7 p.m. Part of this strategy is the assumption that auto-pilot will make D.C. traffic manageable and I won t hate myself for doing this. Currently the train leaves RVA at 6:00 a.m. and arrives at 8:15 a.m. and while I m able to work on the train there are time penalties on either side and frequent delays so that driving should work out to be shorter. Thoughts? Apologies if this post violates any rules. | 2017-04-12 20:14:43 | 7 | Train all the way. I love my car and I love autopilot but traffic sucks. Your commute is 120 miles and it will take at minimum 2.5 hours of driving. On some days it will get up to 4 hours (according to Google). That s 1 way. That s not worth it dude. Just take the train and enjoy your stress free and relaxing trip. Plus you can sleep on the train. Also fwiw autopilot is great in traffic but you still have to pay attention and be alert. It s not like you can just enable it and not have to look at the road : | 2017-04-12 20:42:49 | 12 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 6,154 |
How long can a Tesla Model S run for at speed? | So I am curious if anyone knows how long the car can run on a single charge while at full throttle. Time or distance would work for an answer. Basically doing something like running at the salt flats at full speed or something. | 2015-02-04 21:09:20 | 25 | Here you go: http: my.teslamotors.com it_IT forum forums driving-range-full-speed From EdG s answer: > As I posted there my curve fit suggests you ll use about 869 wH per mile. So if you start with 85 kwH and you want to stop at 10% left you ll use 90% of 85000 wH divided by 869 or about ... 88 miles. 88 miles at 125mph (the max speed) is roughly 42 minutes. | 2015-02-04 21:45:36 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,357 |
Steps to activate Model X performance Holiday - Elon Musk | https: twitter.com elonmusk status 812463378270588928 Step 1 - Park in an open space Step 2 - Tap and Hold Tesla T on Center Display Step 3 - Type holidays or ModelXmas | 2016-12-24 01:03:19 | 48 | So does the car play music or not? Can t really tell... Who is gonna post theirs first? | 2016-12-24 02:07:06 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,773 |
Corrected Re-Post - New Metallic Grey Color - 9 Pics - only 3 built so far | Messed up the last try so here it is again. I ordered the new metallic grey P85 without having seen an actual car with that color. Apparently it s a new color only three have been built so far for corporate marketing purposes none have been delivered to owners yet and owners who ordered this color will start receiving deliveries in one month. I was somewhat reluctant to order a color I hadn t seen in person but went ahead with it. However I was later wavering and considering a color switch to white or black or silver all of which I had seen in person. And then today I stopped at the Fremont factory store and was surprised to find one of these three currently-existing grey metallic cars there so I got to see the new metallic grey on an actual car. After seeing it in person I decided to stay with my original color choice. Here are some pictures I took in case anyone is interested in seeing the new metallic grey on a P85: Pic 1: http: m.imgur.com BfKhdYh Pic 2: http: m.imgur.com 6r26Nn3 Pic 3: http: m.imgur.com yP7tz0I Pic 4: http: m.imgur.com isU4wRu Pic 5: http: m.imgur.com wIsfqSk Pic 6: http: m.imgur.com bdLJMxy Pic 7: http: m.imgur.com 7NQ17hQ Pic 8: http: m.imgur.com WASADFq Pic 9: http: m.imgur.com 1wF872t For comparison here s the picture that Tesla included in my order confirmation: http: m.imgur.com gZQyl0g | 2014-08-31 03:56:48 | 16 | I think it looks great. Good choice. | 2014-08-31 12:48:00 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,167 |
Tesla road trip warriors how has the transition to an electric car effected the way you take road trips? Is it annoying to stop more frequently? | I m very much of the mindset to stop as little as possible but still allow myself to take a break when needed when it comes to road trips. I get the feeling though that supercharging adds a little too much time imo. Has that been anyone s experience? Seems to be one of the bigger downsides to owning a Tesla. Still very much want a Model 3 Y one day! Just curious to know peoples experiences. | 2020-08-31 02:34:24 | 29 | I would have never even considered taking this current trip if I was in my ice car without autopilot. Charging has never been a bother or a real worry with it always being available and never getting bored with the waits. | 2020-08-31 02:42:35 | 64 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,172 |
Sentry Mode Video Combiner | I think the clips being saved in minute intervals was a bit annoying so I wrote a small utility function to combine the videos for each different camera. This is the project and it includes a jar file which can be run by double-clicking it. Figured I would share it in case anyone else feels the same! [https: github.com Chuyinzki TeslaClipsCombiner](https: github.com Chuyinzki TeslaClipsCombiner) | 2019-05-10 01:24:15 | 21 | Nice job! & #x200B Here s 2 more projects by the awesome Github community: 1. [https: github.com BobStrogg teslacam-browser](https: github.com BobStrogg teslacam-browser) 2. [https: github.com ehendrix23 tesla\_dashcam](https: github.com ehendrix23 tesla_dashcam) | 2019-05-10 06:11:58 | 4 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 16,967 |
Feature Request Megathread | Hey Everyone! If you could try to format feature requests by model if needed with a small description and scenario. Also while trying to keep it realistic within the software realm and currently known hardware realm. These will post every 2 weeks. | 2022-05-31 13:00:10 | 45 | When the car is in reverse the backup camera should be on by default. If I change the A C settings while in reverse the camera should come back up. | 2022-05-31 14:18:17 | 96 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,902 |
Weekly Investing Thread | This will post every Sunday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own investor links during the week. This thread is specifically intended for TSLA related posts. This thread is meant only for casual discussion regarding TSLA stock. Only generic Investing-related topics will be allowed as posts. Detailed commentary should be discussed here. This thread should **not** be construed as investment advice or guidance. | 2017-12-10 11:11:16 | 10 | Looks like the good news about production levels of the M3 have sent the stock heading upwards. I m still holding for long term at least > 1 year but nice to not be the red any more :D | 2017-12-14 14:50:45 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,993 |
Request: Tesla should program windshield washer button to turn on wipers to medium on double tap. | I find it difficult to turn on the wipers while driving on the highway in a rainstorm. I have to take me eyes off the road to navigate the touchpad. Auto-wipers are better now with the recent update but still not great on my car. Also if touchpad goes dark (which happens occasionally in my model) wipers cannot be accessed. This would make an excellent safety improvement. | 2019-12-04 14:49:44 | 50 | I would like to see the left steering wheel control handle this. Like if you press the wiper button on the left stalk the left scroll wheel controls wiper speed and then reverts to volume again if not used within a few seconds of pressing the wiper button. | 2019-12-04 15:42:00 | 39 | Tesla Model 3 Wiper Concerns | 16,500 |
What will the Tesla Semi pull during the unveiling when it is introduced? | What will the Tesla Semi pull during the unveiling when it is introduced? ---- Tesla usually does things to great fanfare with the exception of the anti-climactic Model 3 introduction. What do you think they have up their sleeve for the Semi Unveiling? ---- |Vote Button| Poll Options|Current Vote Count| |:-----------:|:------------:|:------------| |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote d9ZXFEl5)**|Nothing just the semi itself|**0** Votes |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote 66GzfMeG)**|Falcon Heavy rocket|**0** Votes |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote 207wSEWp)**|Trailer of Model 3s |**0** Votes |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote 8O8NiPo7)**|Trailer of a roadster Model S Model X & Model 3 |**0** Votes |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote AvpyhAmo)**|Fifth wheel luxury camper large Airstream |**0** Votes |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote ZjoVIOAg)**|Other -- in comments|**0** Votes ---- **Instructions:** * Click Vote to Register Your Vote. ---- **Note:** Vote Count in this post will be updated real time with new data. ---- Make Your Own Poll Here **[redditpoll.com](http: redditpoll.com)**. ---- See live vote count **[here](http: redditpoll.com poll what-will-the-tesla-semi-pull-during-the-unveiling-when-it-is-introduced)** | 2017-10-03 22:54:36 | 50 | The leg of everyone thinking it ll be built and available in a reasonable amount of time. :) | 2017-10-03 22:58:46 | 110 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,028 |
Different Suspension Spring Rates Calibrations on Model S - 20 vs. 22 | I ve been fortunate to have \~750+ miles behind the wheel of a both a 2020 and 2022 Model S. If you have I wonder if you have noticed the same thing I have with their respectively ride qualities. While it is immediately evident a number of changes were made to improve fit finish compliance and ride quality but one area where ***a stark difference was notice that disappointed me was the 22 s ride quality and compliance.*** The ** 20 model year** had a suppleness to the suspension that felt very much on par with say a Mercedes E or S-Class. Comfortable plush but controlled and good progressiveness throughout the compression and rebound. Basically what one would expect the overall handling and suspension to feel like in a comfortable GT car. The ** 22 model year** felt noticeably different. The best way to convey it is the chassis tuning felt like a just barely softened Model 3. Or if you re from the ICE world - the difference between a BMW 4-Series and the BMW M4 s suspension setup. Compression and rebound are dialed up and rigidity is increased. Even in the S s suspension s softest mode or left on auto it felt taunt - almost too stiff and lacked much of the plush and supple ride quality of the 20 model year. **There s very little felt difference between Comfort and Sport mode.** Has any one else noticed the same? Do you think there s a way to export the Pre-2022 suspensions setting and port them into the 2022? Or even if there s a diagnostic mode where you can dial in your own compression and rebound settings. | 2022-08-11 00:49:14 | 9 | I haven t driven them back to back but I agree the refresh S suspension is not at all what I expected given some of the hype from some people about it. It really is quite far from a luxury or proper sport tuned suspension. Real disappointment for a now $100k+ car. At $80k it s alright but still not that impressive given the R1T R1S has a far more impressive suspension for similar or less money. | 2022-08-11 14:10:38 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,109 |
Weekly Experience Thread | This will post every Saturday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to comment your own experiences during the week if they match below. This thread is specifically intended for **photos** of: * Order Confirmations * Delivery Day Photos * Vanity Plates * Video Blogs + Racing Videos * Delivery Transport Trucks * Vehicle Spotting (case-by-case) * Toy items you purchased * Baked Goods If you think a post violates this verify with our updated **Rule 4** in the sidebar and report it. | 2017-12-30 11:11:49 | 10 | https: imgur.com a aqewV Took delivery yesterday in Marina del Rey (LA)! | 2017-12-30 18:23:46 | 3 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 25,951 |
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[Discussion] Paid Tesla 60k in full for my Model 3 over a month ago. Now being told my delivery is delayed indefinitely. Do I have any recourse? | My delivery date has been delayed 3 times. Now I am being told by my DA they re just not going to even give me a tentative delivery date anymore. I ve already paid 60k in full over a month ago. But I have no car since I sold mine just ahead of the original delivery date. Tesla provided me a rental but refuses to loan me an actual Tesla. Additionally Tesla refuses any other comp for my troubles (even free Supercharging). Do I have any recourse? Advice? My DA told me to suck it up (paraphrased) since many others are in a similar situation. Thanks in advance. UPDATE: I got a call from my Delivery Adviser this morning that due to logistical issues (still unexplained) they are recommending that we simply re-order a new car for me entirely. It will take 2 more weeks to build and I will receive a new VIN. The ordering process will start over new entirely. | 2018-08-21 23:16:56 | 248 | Toyota must be shitting themselves with fear right now. With this sort of manufacturing speed and customer service Tesla s poised to blow all its competitors out of the water! On a serious note: do you still want the car after the way they ve handled this? Any chance you can get your money back? | 2018-08-22 08:27:56 | 103 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 24,663 |
Hybrid vs. EV well-to-wheel | *EDIT: Thanks to everyone for the spirited discussion (except for those who resort to insults and name-calling). It seems a lot of people would have rather seen an analysis of CO**^(2)* *impact rather than an analysis of energy efficiency. These two things are interrelated but different. I was having an engineering conversation with an engineer and so we spoke in terms of efficiency and that sparked this analysis. I do appreciate the additions in the comments of how to consider the CO**^(2)* *impact though! But just an up-front FYI: this post does a well-to-wheel analysis of thermal efficiency of ICE vs. Hybrid vs. BEV. If you find errors in my math or logic or find better (more recent correct) sources for the assumptions values I ve used please let me know and I ll update the model. Now on to the original post:* I recently had a conversation with a colleague about the efficiencies of EVs vs. Hybrids. My colleague was of the opinion that hybrids were still the way to go if you wanted the best overall efficiency. ~~o be the most green~~. *(EDITED to avoid confusion as to the purpose of this post)*. I knew this wasn t true but didn t have the data at my finger tips or the tip of my tongue to back it up. So I went home and took the time to research it and I built a spreadsheet comparing the well-to-wheel efficiency of an EV vs. that of a hybrid car. I was surprised that the EV only beat the hybrid by about 5& #37 overall in the end (depending on some assumptions.) The primary assumption was that electricity was sourced from California where we both live and where electricity is generally pretty green renewable. I was also surprised at the lack of data out there for some of the key parts of the equation. Anyway I thought I d share what I did and offer it up for feedback. Let me know what you think... I compiled the data in a spreadsheet here:[https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1O6j8WOLED9npiS7f0s2XNMY3QLHwX7m41Gmc\_GlCJcI edit?usp=sharing](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1O6j8WOLED9npiS7f0s2XNMY3QLHwX7m41Gmc_GlCJcI edit?usp=sharing) The summary result: from well-to-wheel a standard gas car is \~17& #37 efficient the best hybrids are \~30& #37 and a typical BEV is around 34& #37 . Math is in the spreadsheet and supporting data from a little online research are below: 1. Most internal combustion gasoline (otto cycle) engines have a thermal efficiency of around 20-30& #37 the most efficient gasoline engines (atkins cycle) approach 40& #37 which represents the Toyota Hybrid engine (Prius). Most diesel engines are around 40& #37 . [https: www.greencarreports.com news 1091436\_toyota-gasoline-engine-achieves-thermal-efficiency-of-38-percent](https: www.greencarreports.com news 1091436_toyota-gasoline-engine-achieves-thermal-efficiency-of-38-percent) 2) EV electric motors have a thermal efficiency of 80-98& #37 depending on the RPM of the motor. The drive train losses in an EV are close to zero (output of motor is the drive axle) whereas in a typical car they are around 5& #37 . The inverter is about 95& #37 so this part is maybe a wash. There are lots of sources for this info but this article was pretty good: [https: matter2energy.wordpress.com 2013 02 22 wells-to-wheels-electric-car-efficiency ](https: matter2energy.wordpress.com 2013 02 22 wells-to-wheels-electric-car-efficiency ) 3) Average heat rate of Natural Gas fired electricity plants in California for 2010-2015 was about 7750 Btu which gives an average thermal efficiency of \~44& #37 . [http: www.energy.ca.gov 2017publications CEC-200-2017-003 CEC-200-2017-003.pdf](http: www.energy.ca.gov 2017publications CEC-200-2017-003 CEC-200-2017-003.pdf) [https: www.eia.gov tools faqs faq.php?id=107& t=3](https: www.eia.gov tools faqs faq.php?id=107& t=3) (Newer natural gas plants operating on the combined cycle can obtain thermal efficiencies above 60& #37 .) 4) Natural Gas comprises \~1 2 of all electricity in CA with the other half made up of mostly renewable sources which depending on how one defines it have 100& #37 thermal efficiency. \~9& #37 is nuclear (one remaining plant -Diablo- going offline in a few years) which has a thermal efficiency of around 33& #37 but adds no greenhouse gases so including this skews the result in favor of gasoline cars slightly when considering carbon footprint. Not including it skews in favor of BEV s if we don t care about nuclear risks and waste I ve included it for now. Only about \~2& #37 are listed as other which includes all other non-renewable sources. Night time electricity is actually greener than daytime because the utilities can operate on mostly hydro and wind. They only have to cycle up the NG generators when business and HVAC use climbs during the daytime hours. [https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Energy\_in\_California](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Energy_in_California) So overall thermal efficiency of electricity generation in CA is above 44& #37 exact number unknown as renewables don t really have a thermal efficiency. But if we focus on green and carbon footprint we could assume 100& #37 thermal efficiency for renewables for the purposes of calculating an overall efficiency of CA s electricity production. Doing this I get an overall average efficiency of \~51& #37 4) Natural Gas & renewables require little to no refinement after extraction unlike gasoline for automobiles & hybrids which has a refining efficiency of about 88& #37 (12& #37 energy spent) [https: greet.es.anl.gov files hl9mw9i7](https: greet.es.anl.gov files hl9mw9i7) Both Gas and Oil require energy to extract and deliver them though: Most sources combine the cost and report the same value of about a 1:20 cost:benefit ratio or \~5& #37 cost in thermal efficiency. 5) Electricity does suffer transmission and distribution losses though: Average electricity losses (transmission + distribution) in CA from 1990-2013 were \~9& #37 [http: insideenergy.org 2015 11 06 lost-in-transmission-how-much-electricity-disappears-between-a-power-plant-and-your-plug ](http: insideenergy.org 2015 11 06 lost-in-transmission-how-much-electricity-disappears-between-a-power-plant-and-your-plug ) So it seems like a highly efficient hybrid car like a newer Prius still looses compared to a fully electric vehicle like a Bolt Leaf or Tesla when it comes to considering overall efficiency from source to car. I m not considering plug-in hybrids like the Volt and Prius PHV as that is dependent on duty cycle use (how much energy from gas vs from grid) which is user dependent. These drive on an electric motor but use both grid electricity and electricity generated by a gasoline engine. The two efficiencies for hybrid (30& #37 ) and BEV (34& #37 ) are much closer than I d have guessed though! However some other things to consider: Electricity is getting greener by comparison petroleum refinement is not. Cost of electricity is exceptionally stable compared to and much cheaper than gasoline. You can t install a green oil refinery on your roof. :-) The more you charge your BEV from green sources the cleaner it is and efficiencies of the grid (production storage and transmission) are getting better every year. I haven t included cost here this is just about efficiency of energy use from well to wheel. | 2018-07-10 03:58:39 | 33 | Nice piece of work. Expect people to argue about your assumptions but they seem very reasonable. In your research did you come across a number for the power needed to extract and refine a gallon of gas - I am sure Elon said it was similar to the power an EV needs to travel the same distance that a typical ICE vehicle would on that gallon. | 2018-07-10 04:22:38 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,712 |
Any tips for a new Tesla owner? | Looking to buy within the next month. Pros and Cons? Would love to hear everyone s experiences with a Tesla. I ll be getting the Standard Range 2020 Model 3. | 2020-06-09 17:13:46 | 21 | Biggest tip for a new owner: right away go into Settings and set Energy Display to “Percent” instead of “miles km”. #1 frustration for new owners is “OMG I drove 50 miles and range dropped 65 miles HELLLLLLP” and “charged yesterday to 310 miles today it charged to only 309 miles. IS MY BATTERY TOAST?!?” Just set it to show your battery charge in % and forget about it. The navigation will show you estimated battery remaining when you get to your destination and round trip and it s very accurate. Use that to gauge your range. | 2020-06-09 19:37:08 | 43 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,763 |
Tell me about the tech package please. | Need help re the tech package. Hi everybody I have been corresponding with a very nice gentleman in Sydney re purchase of a Tesla Model S 85D. I m sure he must be under a lot of pressure as the grand opening day approaches for the first Australian Tesla store. Problem is I can t get much information from him. I m planning on making a Model S a birthday present to me. He ignores some of the questions I ask and gives bland feel good type replies that lack specifics. Not that he hasn t given me good information i.e. I now know that the deposit required is $3000.00 (I m assuming that is Australian dollars) and there is a two week period following the order in which changes can be made to that order also the bit about Google maps still being available sans tech package. He has given me a mobile number to call to sort out problems. I prefer emails no dispute over what was said and when. One of the reasons for buying from Tesla is to avoid the dealer experience (which I hate with a passion) but this is starting to feel a bit similar. I know most of the stuff that can be learnt from videos it s the small stuff that never gets a mention. It comes down to why should I purchase the tech package. I know this much now: 1 The air suspension is now only available if you have the tech package (that could be the most important point in my case I have potential ground clearance issues height adjustable shocks would fix). 2 Satellite navigation requires the tech package. 3 Without the tech package Google maps is still available (not sure why it should be since I read somewhere the browser is disabled in Australia because local regulations forbid it can anyone confirm that ?). 4 With the tech package the door handles respond when the driver is sensed via some form of proximity switch. I still don t know: 5 Will the back up camera still function without the tech package (I d assume it would but assumptions aren t what I m looking for) ? 6 Daylight running lights do these only come with the tech package (not that I want them I dislike them but it s not a deal breaker either way) ? 7 Without the tech package does the vehicle still come with basic cruise control (not the fancy version that will prevent you from accidentally rear ending the car in front again I d assume yes but assumption don t cut it here I have to have at least a basic cruise control) ? 8 Just what specifically does the tech package provide that a non tech package vehicle would not have (particularly the small stuff) ? 9 Other than cost are there any advantages in not going with the tech package (privacy maybe ?) ? Best regards. | 2014-12-03 22:15:28 | 13 | 1) Correct. And with tech package car will automatically lower raise at certain GPS locations once it learns that is where there is a steep driveway etc 2) Correct 3) The car can store basic Google maps on it s hard drive so no internet connection required. Don t know about Australian law 4) I think you still get a backup camera but the tech package comes with a nicer HD one 5) DRLs only come with tech package I believe. You can turn them off of course 6) Don t know the answer to that one. I m assuming yes since that is pretty basic 7) Internet radio is awesome navigation with traffic and alternate routes web browsing driver profiles homelink (learns to open garage gate) remote access to car (app) ability to use apps like Visible Tesla (scheduling to pre-heat turn off track data) etc 8) This car is incomplete without the tech package. Just get it believe me. TL DR Get the tech package. *edit: forgot door handles extending when approaching which is awesome. Also power lift gate (with adjustable height) is cool* | 2014-12-03 22:26:08 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,259 |
NEMA 14-50 charging in rain and snow? | I am thinking about a Model 3 but the issue is I have a detached garage and running the wiring to get an EV charger in there may be cost prohibitive as I believe they ll need to dig a trench through my yard run conduit etc. I ve been thinking about just having a 14-50 outlet installed on the outside of my house instead and using the mobile charger. The good news is my driveway is right by my electrical panel in my basement so it wouldn t take more than a few feet of wiring to get from my panel to the outlet. I d be willing to park on the driveway to charge and then move into the garage later and with a 30 mile round trip commute (plus maybe another 20-50 miles of driving depending on the day) a 14-50 at about 30 miles of charge an hour is plenty. I do live in the midwest so I see all 4 seasons. Will rain and snow be an issue? I know electricity and water don t mix but from what I can find online it seems like the mobile charger is waterproof? Does anyone else have a similar setup and if so how s it working out for you? And please correct me if I m wrong but it s my understanding that the M3s now come with [this charger with just a regular 110v plug](https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories gen-2-mobile-connector-bundle.html) and all I d have to buy is [the 14-50 adapter](https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories gen-2-nema-adapters.html)? Unfortunately it looks like they re out of stock do they get them in stock often? I may be placing an order for my car in a few weeks and would need the adapter soon because 110v isn t going to cut it and there s not a supercharger convenient to me. | 2019-07-13 13:34:13 | 18 | Get a bid for having a NEMA 14-50 added to your garage. Tell the electrician it s for a dryer (saying it s for a Tesla seems to magically raise prices...). The convenience of having your vehicle tucked away in a garage year-round and not having to deal with moving it around in inclement weather is going to be worth a considerable amount. You might find the install is less expensive than you think. But to answer your initial question the mobile charger is weather proof. The outlet it plugs into on the other hand... might be a good idea to build a little cover for it just to be on the safe side. | 2019-07-13 14:15:23 | 23 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,547 |
MobileEye vs. In-house Technology | I m an investor in TSLA and was looking to possibly invest in MobileEye. I wondered how much MobileEye is embedded in the Tesla fleet now and into the future. Is Tesla planning on replacing MobileEye eventually (thus competing with them) or do you think that MobileEye will continue to be buoyed by Tesla into the future? Thanks! EDIT: Thank you everyone for your input. I have decided to pickup some shares since it seems to be something that won t be very easy to replace short term and long term it appears that the technology will be rolled out in many different auto manufacturers not just Tesla. MBLY is trading at the bottom of a range for no good reason (from what I can tell other than Hotz s B.S. claims) so I m in at $39 share (long term investment). | 2016-01-11 20:26:10 | 8 | > He quit Vicarious in July and decided to put his conviction to the test. A friend introduced him to Musk and they met at Tesla s factory in Fremont Calif. talking at length about the pros and perils of AI technology. Soon enough the two men started figuring out a deal in which Hotz would help develop Tesla s self-driving technology. There was a proposal that if Hotz could do better than Mobileye s technology in a test then Musk would reward him with a lucrative contract. Hotz though broke off the talks when he felt that Musk kept changing the terms. “Frankly I think you should just work at Tesla ” **Musk wrote to Hotz in an e-mail. “I m happy to work out a multimillion-dollar bonus with a longer time horizon that pays out as soon as we discontinue Mobileye.”** > > “I appreciate the offer ” Hotz replied “but like I ve said I m not looking for a job. I ll ping you when I crush Mobileye.” > > Musk simply answered “OK.” http: www.bloomberg.com features 2015-george-hotz-self-driving-car | 2016-01-11 20:54:56 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,536 |
People that have reserved a Tesla Model ≡ how much do you make? | I would just like to know what people that have reserved a ≡ what is your yearly salary? | 2017-08-26 21:50:08 | 13 | It s not about salary. It s about not having children. Ever. Then you ll be fine. | 2017-08-26 22:54:20 | 129 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,069 |
CBS adding ENGINE SOUNDS to videos shot of the Tesla Model S in the 60 min interview. What the hell happened? Check out the 0.58 mark in this video. | Check it out here if you didn t see it already. This is absolutely idiotic. http: www.cbsnews.com news tesla-and-spacex-elon-musks-industrial-empire | 2014-03-31 07:21:36 | 11 | if you really pay attention you can tell that it s the chase car motorcycle that s making the noise. | 2014-03-31 14:49:36 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,224 |
2019.5.15 Vampire drain? Model 3 not sleeping and losing 5 miles hour | Since getting 2019.5.15 a few days ago my Model 3 has had some serious vampire drain. Yesterday it lost 20 miles (~6%) over 8 hours and today it s already lost 15 miles in only 3 hours. No sentry mode AC is off it s only 65F outside. It does appear the car is not sleeping as the app connects instaneously. Is there something new I m missing? Anyone having this problem? | 2019-03-14 21:03:50 | 7 | Just checked mine. It actually looks better than it has been. | 2019-03-14 21:09:53 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 526 |
Planning a cross country trip in a model 3 SR+ | Am I crazy? Me my wife and our 16 year old son. This summer: leaving DC heading for Seattle then down the coast to San Diego on to the grand canyon and back to DC. I know the brochure says the SR+ can go 240 miles between charges - perhaps downhill with a tail wind. In the real world with three people and gear I m thinking 160 is a more practical range. Are there enough superchargers along the way? Has anyone done this? Pretty soon our son may be too old for such things so this may be our big chance! | 2021-03-26 20:58:13 | 61 | [abetterrouteplanner.com](https: abetterrouteplanner.com) Edit the settings to your specs and plan away! :) Ive used this for years and find it very reliable on many 12-25 hour road trips ive taken. Its a great planning tool. | 2021-03-26 21:00:18 | 55 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 15,251 |
Tesla Paint Codes? | Hello all. I have just purchased my first home and the first thing I want to work on is go full on Tesla with my garage! Does anyone know the red and white paint codes so that I may paint the interior of the garage appropriately. Please feel free to AMA or lend me any tips ideas. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! | 2019-04-18 02:36:19 | 9 | PPMR PPSW | 2019-04-18 07:11:51 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,330 |
The pics showing the lines across the US are a magnificent testimony to the future of Tesla and the electric car industry. This is a victory! | This is a huge victory to Tesla and Musk! This will stimulate the entire industry: electrify or Nokiafy! | 2016-03-31 18:29:19 | 298 | I admit I haven t done any research on this but I can t think off the top of my head any other auto manufacturer in history that has had people willing wait in line for the ability to buy their car sight unseen. This will be a day long remembered. | 2016-03-31 18:50:57 | 88 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,857 |
Model 3 auto mirror adjustment idea | I personally really enjoy the way you adjust the mirrors on the model 3 I think it s super cool and intuitive... but I thought of another maybe even cooler better way... What if the interior camera could use face eye tracking software and triangulate the position of the mirrors exactly automatically? That way say you adjust the way you re sitting after a long road trip it automatically adjusts... I personally think that d be pretty amazing. | 2018-05-24 20:00:30 | 6 | This seems like a highly complex solution to a very simple problem. Adjusting mirrors is not a difficult or time-consuming task. You do it once and then never have to do it again. Why do you need to develop a hyper-complex eye-tracking algorithm to solve a problem that only takes 30 seconds to solve manually? | 2018-05-24 20:30:05 | 27 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 12,091 |
Drive to Believe Campaign winners selected | I just received an email from Tesla saying that I didn t win the one week test drive of the Model S. Would be interesting to know if anyone of you (europeans) was lucky! | 2017-01-13 09:25:16 | 7 | I also didn t win. I was ready to take a week off work and do a tour of the UK. | 2017-01-13 09:36:41 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,655 |
I have a couple questions about the Model S | I m a huge fan of what Elon is doing with Tesla and the Model S is my dream vehicle. As my family and friends will tell you I don t really care for any other vehicle now if it isn t electric now. (Example: Hey! have you seen that new Corvette? Are they still using a century old air compressor? Then...no ) Any time cars come into a conversation Tesla inevitably comes up and EVs in general. With this come the nay sayers that believe EVs are a fad and do not have a viable future because of a host of reasons. As much as I try to stand up for Tesla I often become stumped in these conversations simply because I m not informed enough about the Model S s (Or EV s in general). If you guys could clear some of this up for me it would be wonderful. #1 How long would it take to charge at a non-supercharger charging station? I live in Toronto and there aren t any high speed chargers anywhere near I normally drive. Hypothetically if I went to one of those public business owned chargers that Plugshare advertises how long would it take to put in 30 kW h worth of juice? Is there a standard for EV stations? Or is it anywhere from a standard 120v 15A outlet all the way to a supercharger? #2 How often do EV s actually catch fire? I know of 2 instances where the model S went up that was totally justified and no one was hurt. 1st one was when a guy hit a wall at like 100km h and walked away. 2nd one was when a guy drove over a trailer hitch that punched through the battery armour. (The cars now have even more armour in said location) The 3rd fire was a random one in a guy s garage in Toronto. All in all that s not bad but nay sayers still believe it s an unsafe vehicle. Let s say hypothetically that 10 Model S s burned up last year for a variety of reasons. (Generously favouring the nay sayers) Tesla Motors sold ~25000 cars last year. Thus that s a 0.0004% failure rate which is nothing compared to petrol vehicles. Yet still I hear that as a huge concern. Can someone clarify this? #3 How much maintenance is there actually? I ve heard that all you need to do is regularly change your brakes and tires (like any car) and top up your fluids. Then at about 100k you have to repack and lubricate the bearings (like any car) but other than that you re good until about 500k. At which point the motor and batteries need to be replaced for about $15 000 Canadian. Is this true? 500 000km is A LOT of mileage for anything. #4 Warranties. What does it cover? And how long does it last? #5 What is that weird thing on the rear brake rotors that looks like a second smaller calliper? I wanted to ask the owner of the Model S who s vehicle I noticed it on but it had started raining and I didn t want to wait in a parking lot for the person. Thanks for all the help. | 2014-06-30 15:47:12 | 13 | 1) You can use everything from standard 120v outlet (where you will get like 3 miles per hour charge) to a laundry dryer 30a outlet (where you will get ~20 miles per hour) to a High Powered Wall Charger (80amps) that will get you 60 miles per hour. Most people use a 14-50 50amp outlet to get ~30 miles per hour and just charge it over night in their garage. SuperChargers can go as high as 350-400 miles per hour. If you use one of the public chargers they are most likely 30a-50a+ so anywhere from ~20-35 miles per hour. The better the public charger and the higher the amps the more you will get. To get 100 miles it ll take you 3+ hours. If you get lucky with a 60a-80a public charger that time is cut in half. 2) The fire stuff is a bunch of bull and ICE cars have a much higher rate and likelihood of catching on fire. They also have a much higher chance of death when car catches fire. I m not going to post statistics because I don t have time to look them up. Google it. It s all over the TM and TMC forums. The only people that have a huge concern are those that listen to idiotic news outlets or campaigns funded by other auto makers. 3) Maintenance is once per year roughly to check over everything. They do tire rotation change wipers make sure everything is ok. That ll cost you between $450-$600 per year (or every 12 000-15 000 miles) depending on your service plan. Other than that I think the battery coolant needs to be replaced every 5 years or so. The motor bearings supposedly can go for 500K miles before replacement is needed - but I have yet to see actual numbers on that. As for replacement current price for a 85kWh battery is estimated (because we have no idea) to be $30 000-$45 000. Motor drive unit replacement would probably be around the $15 000 you mentioned - but again we really dont have info on this because just about everyone with a car is still under warranty. 4) Warranty for car bumper to bumper is 4 years. You can get it extended to 8 years for another $4 000. Battery warranty is 8 years. For 60kWh version its 8 years or a certain number of miles. For 85kWh version it is 8 years unlimited miles. 5) I have no idea. There are large Brembo brakes on there maybe you saw that? Hit me up with any other questions | 2014-06-30 16:34:08 | 10 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 8,884 |
Euro Y? | Could Tesla be building a batch of Y for Europe? The ID4 release is imminent. Can Tesla really stand waiting until Berlin is in production? Tesla likes to rain on other manufacturers parade. Cybertruck was revealed when Rivian was getting a lot of love. They were deceptive with the model Y release date. | 2020-09-20 14:12:11 | 7 | European Model Y will be manufactured at the Berlin Gigafactory. Before then it s possible some from Shanghai will be shipped to Europe but unlikely. | 2020-09-20 14:23:48 | 12 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 6,059 |
Smitten. Now to somehow afford one. | I had the opportunity to drive a Model X p100d and a model 3 a couple weeks back and I m obsessed with trying to own a Tesla now. I just got a 2015 BMW X5 earlier this year but now I m trying to see what the monthly cost difference would be against a used (2014ish) model S or even a model 3 (though I don t know that it can hold 3 kids seats - one rear facing). Anyone have any cost breakdowns by chance? | 2018-11-18 07:52:10 | 9 | 2014 ish model s goes for around $35-50k depending on features like AP and battery size. Oddly your going to find your payment to be pretty close because of the additional cost of gas and maintenance. Let s start with what is your budget? (This will dictate which model and trim you can look for) The cheapest you can get a model 3 is $45 000(base) + doc = $46200 plus tax for your state plus electrical install for your house (~$1000) | 2018-11-18 08:05:39 | 6 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 17,343 |
Fake news about Tesla on Seeking Alpha! | The article says it s expensive to drive an EV while it s actually cheaper. It tries to hide the truth by only using the supercharger network pricing instead of the original household pricing of electricity Which is half! P.s. the author is Short on Tesla. | 2018-04-01 23:59:48 | 76 | Lol they won t even let you post the article on here because Seeking Alpha is a “blacklisted” site on this subreddit. 😂 should tell you all you need to know! | 2018-04-02 00:06:30 | 33 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 6,342 |
Tesla model 3 seat adjustment issue | Hi all new owner of a 2021 model 3. I m curious if anyone (on any models) has had issues with the seat adjustment. My issue is that the height adjustment seems to be malfunctioning not working at all. When I go to raise the height (pulling up on the back side of the horizontal adjuster) it moves up like half an inch and stops. The seat is capable of moving up all the way (like if I keep pressing up repeatedly it will get there and at one point gets to a point of being able to move up smoothly but then reverts to not working at the bottom). I have set up a service appointment already but I m curious if anyone else has run in to this issue and what the fix was or how long it took. Also increasing and decreasing the tilt of the seat I hear a bit of a “click” at the end range of either end. I have compared it to the passenger seat and it sounds and works fine. The electronic sound of the chair moving sounds “weaker” in a way for the driver seat vs the passenger seat. Just curious as I ve only had the car for 6 days | 2020-12-23 06:13:27 | 8 | I also had problems with my driver s seat height adjustment in my m3 from March 2020. Since beginning it was stuck at highest position and did not move at all. First the motor was replaced which did not help then they replaced the cables. Now it s working. | 2020-12-23 06:25:44 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,017 |
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