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New version of Google Maps on Android broke sharing places to the Tesla app | One of the most useful features in firmware V9 is sharing location from Google Maps to the Tesla app which sends the location to the car. Unfortunately the recent update of Google Maps on Android (10.6.1) broke this functionality. Now trying to share a place results in an error. I looked into that and found that before Google Maps share places using a [goo.gl](https: goo.gl) URL. In the new version it uses [maps.app.goo.gl](https: maps.app.goo.gl) instead and that probably is the reason for the error. Sharing direction still works and still sends only the destinations so this can be used as a workaround. I hope Tesla will update their mobile app to fix this soon. | 2018-12-15 15:19:45 | 40 | I ve been using the Navigate for Tesla app to get around the broken sharing via the official app: https: play.google.com store apps details?id=com.crazydog.navigationsharefortesla | 2018-12-15 15:58:32 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,997 |
So when Elon was talking about aggressiveness of the auto pilot.. | Does that mean that my car will speed for me? Because that would be excellent I typically go 5-10 over sorry. How fast do you think each level is? Or what other meaning do you think the levels mean? | 2014-10-12 18:33:36 | 18 | I think he was referring more to acceleration and follow distance than speeding. While it s probably going to be an option to set your own speed I doubt it s legal to sell a car that has a break the speed limit button. At the very least it d be hell for Tesla s legal department. | 2014-10-12 18:50:40 | 21 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 17,434 |
I care about the environment but not enough to pay $35 000. I bought the Tesla because it s simply leagues better than any car in that price range. | The handling the torque the acceleration how it sounds (or doesn t) the interior the sky roof (for --*sigh* +$5K) the AUTOPILOT (for --*sigh* +$5K) the interface charging at home its safety and finally for what it represents --Car 2.0 I bought a Tesla. Ontario s $14 000 rebate and home charger installation aid sure helped nudge me into making this decision. But yeah its impact on the environment is just a oh cool thing for me. When the laws allow it I ll be able to summon my car to pick me up and go park itself. That s something. | 2017-07-30 21:09:15 | 1,214 | I m the other way. I don t care much about cars but I m willing to pay a premium to help spur the EV movement. How much at this point I m still deciding on but safety range and acceleration would be my main concerns. | 2017-07-30 21:56:06 | 357 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,782 |
Hw3.0 retrofit in The Netherlands | Hi I drive a model x from 2017. Bought FSD in The Netherlands. Does anyone know how to get the hw3.0? Or is it not coming. I do not want the FSD yet as this won t work in Europe for a long time but I need it as hw2.0 is making big judgements errors and sometime dangerous driving. At Tesla they say just Waite | 2020-06-23 21:59:28 | 13 | Tesla will contact you. I m from The Netherlands and my 2018 S75D got a retrofit from 2.5 to 3.0 a few months ago. | 2020-06-24 06:58:31 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 8,711 |
Can I select factory pickup for the m3 to exepedite my place in line? | Does anyone if there will be a factory pickup option for the model 3 and if I m from Chicago would that group me into the west coast orders? Also for S and X factory pickups do they waive the delivery fee? | 2016-04-01 17:02:04 | 6 | First question is: no one is sure yet. Question two is: no. Apparently it s a law you must charge delivery. Note CA has a 7.5% tax on cars so you d lose that minus whatever Chicago s tax is (assuming CA is higher). Although a bill is being worked on now to exempt that then you just pay IL tax when you register in IL. | 2016-04-01 17:12:38 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,380 |
Car emergency kit | Just got my MX about a week ago and I *LOVE* this thing. I was thinking hat it might be a good idea to have an emergency kit in the car. Amazon sells a few but I m not sure they make sense for the MX. Can I even use jumper cables on the MX? Anyway if anyone s built bought a kit like this I d really appreciate any thoughts you have. | 2016-10-14 03:53:44 | 8 | The red bag in the frunk contains most of what you d need in an emergency. The only other thing you might want is the tyre inflation kit they sell. | 2016-10-14 08:42:49 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,676 |
EPA releases Tesla 2019 cert application - Battery details & Standard Range Plus efficiency detailed | Link to report: https: iaspub.epa.gov otaqpub display_file.jsp?docid=46584& flag=1 TLDR: Calculated SR+ battery pack is 54.4 kWh (Mid range is 63.8 kWh) SR+ battery pack is 125 lbs lighter than the mid range pack SR+ curb weight comes in at 3624 lbs (vs 3837 lbs for LR) SR+ highway test efficiency clocks in at ~185Wh mile total (Mid range is ~201) | 2019-04-21 14:54:51 | 58 | \~185Wh mile is crazy low... | 2019-04-21 14:57:07 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,776 |
[Discussion] Tesla & GDPR? | As someone that has to work on this for a technology company.. its a huge huge pain in the ass. It is definitely for the good of the web but takes an extreme amount of effort to execute derails business timelines etc. Has anyone seen any update from TSLA regarding data privacy. 4 days left and I haven t heard a peep. Questions I have: * How they will delete user data from their records upon request? * Data officer? Who is it? * If someone requests deletion of all their autopilot data.. are they able to still use autopilot? I know the system functions completely without personal use data but if you re not contributing back to the whole should you be a allowed? * So many things about Tesla are tied to that user account record (including VIN assignment etc now Energy products). If someone makes a GDPR request on your behalf without you knowing it your account gets wiped and you may no longer have control over the car if someone else re-registers? | 2018-05-21 12:26:10 | 16 | I have been doing GDPR implementation and there are some data types that can be retained as long as they are totally anonymized. So in fact if someone requests Deletion you can remove all personal types of data and anonymize other types. I have no direct knowledge but I bet that is what they are doing with autopilot data. | 2018-05-21 14:25:05 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,772 |
Feel sad for my old fully loaded model X | I just picked up my Tesla model Y on lease. I dropped of my trusty Model X but it still shows up in my app. Looks like they let the batter drain out of it and left it in some corporate parking lot. Sad that nobody gets to enjoy it like it did. https: i.imgur.com RJOTCJV.jpg https: i.imgur.com XuaBEbL.jpg | 2020-08-28 02:11:42 | 60 | Now I m sad | 2020-08-28 03:29:30 | 45 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,573 |
Two ideas after first longer trip. | Hey everybody today I drove for the first time over a distance of 200 km (124 miles) with my dads 90D and man my electronic nerd hard was pounding. But i noticed a view little things that could be easily added by a software update. 1. I m 1 80m it s not that big but it would be cool to have an option that moves the steering wheel up so you could get better out of the car. 2. We had to start really early in the morning and because of that we changed driver about half way. I liked that the seat for the driver has the profiles but why only the driver seat? 3. For waiting at the Supercharger have a chill mode for the seats. Move and lean Back. (There is a workaround for the driver seat with a chill profile) Like to hear you opinion. | 2016-03-19 20:35:40 | 6 | Yes create driver profiles like out to make the seat go all the way back and steering wheel up and chill to make it go back. It s been mentioned numerous times. I think it s way down on the priority list. | 2016-03-19 20:57:40 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,563 |
Any News about the Model S nose cone developments? | I read in an interview with Franz Von Holzhausen that he would like to work on the snout of the Model S. And Teslaccessories was also doing some prototyping on a new cone so I was wondering if you guys heard any news or might know a little bit more. Edit-changed nose cone to snout since Franz did indeed say snout rather than nose cone as pointed out by u cloudwalking | 2014-01-19 18:59:12 | 5 | I thought he said snout rather than nosecone. Which I took to mean the whole front forward from the A-pillar. | 2014-01-19 21:00:48 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,607 |
Tesla merchandise not available Worldwide | First of all don t get me wrong. I m excited about absolutely everything I read around this sub except (of course) the usual re-post of something that happened was available months ago to read see watch etc. Here s something that I haven t seen around here however: I would like to purchase a merchandise from the official Tesla website although it s not available neither in my home country (nothing Tesla related around here) nor in the closest Tesla supported country - Austria. Once I login to My Tesla or anywhere else in a European-based Tesla webpage I am not able to even see the SHOP option on the website (which usually is top right corner of the webpage). Is there a way how to purchase merchandise or I should directly write Tesla and even Elon about it? Almost everyone nowadays could ship stuff worldwide but Tesla can t? This seems bizarre. p.s. location is Sofia Bulgaria (Eastern Europe) part of the EU for any misinformed participants round here | 2017-01-17 20:53:38 | 7 | I was at a store the other day said they are discontinuing merchandise in stores. Going all online but they are making changes to their whole merchandise right now. May be why | 2017-01-17 20:57:37 | 3 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 19,994 |
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What will GOP win mean for TSLA? | I don t want to start a political thread but I am actually nervous a GOP sweep will hurt the stock and company badly (deregulation climate change and tax credits positions). Am I wrong? I am strongly considering selling my shares (I am long) at a loss... | 2016-11-09 03:47:07 | 113 | There was one thing I cared about this election and that was a push for renewables and a cap on climate change. Republican president and Republican majority ruled house and Senate? There goes everything I truely care about. | 2016-11-09 03:59:21 | 153 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,019 |
Weekly Q& A Thread | This will post every Friday (EST) at 6AM. Use this thread to ask questions and to have folks in the community answer. | 2017-12-08 11:13:16 | 8 | LA new service center for Monday delivery Parking lot model 3 vehicle count？ | 2017-12-08 11:17:15 | 2 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 26,009 |
Question on Tesla Raw Material Sustainability | I was talking with someone today who kind of has it out for tesla and they came up with an argument that I just don t know enough about to debate against. Some of the things they were arguing were blatant misinformation so I m inclined to believe there is more to the story than he was telling me. We were talking about raw materials specifically cobalt and nickel mining. He claimed that tesla gets it s cobalt from environmentally unfriendly and unethical mines in the Congo region. I thought I had heard Tesla wanted mostly North American sources for these materials but I just didn t feel well informed enough to make a compelling argument. If I can t make an accurate claim I d rather keep my mouth shut. So I went to the great Googles and did some research but could not find anything useful. There is just so much tesla news lately it s hard to find what you re looking for. Could anyone point me in the direction any relevant articles or data? I m not really concerned with winning any arguments I just want to be well informed. Thanks! | 2017-08-23 04:30:45 | 16 | Hmmm... they usually mention Bolivia while mistakenly using a screenshot of copper mines in Chile https: www.teslacentral.com comparing-oil-sands-lithium-extraction-just-plain-stupid | 2017-08-23 05:18:55 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,883 |
Shower Thought: When full self-driving becomes mainstream we ll be able to download driving routes for tours of certain areas which could also be narrated. | I m just imagining arriving at San Francisco D.C. or some other city and being able to sit through a full driving tour that is narrated - similar to the Hop On - Hop Off busses all over major cities. There might be certain genres of tours such as romantic or kid-friendly. The possibilities...... | 2018-04-30 04:59:10 | 491 | Kind of like jurrasic park | 2018-04-30 05:21:37 | 97 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,175 |
I live in Miami and was without power due to Irma | Top post on all is how fpl is denying those with solar panels to use their panels in time of emergency which made me wonder. In the market for a home where I plan to eventually put a tesla roof and powerwall. Does anyone know in Florida if you could be off fpl grid altogether and if the roof+powerwall is a viable option for a whole household consumption? I can provide more details on current power use if requested and apologies if this does not go here. | 2017-09-17 16:22:54 | 65 | Going 100% off grid is ballsy. I m sure with 2-3 powerwalls and enough panels to power 120% of your needs (extra room for eventual degredation) it could be done though. But idk if the finances would work out in your favor | 2017-09-17 16:43:39 | 33 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 8,984 |
Tesla School Bus | I tweeted this at Elon a couple times but I think that Tesla could make a killing with a Tesla Bus. Reasoning: - School buses are nothing but empty hulls. Pretty much a drive train with seats. Tesla s batteries are perfect in this application as the floor is already flat and the interior empty. - Most school bus routes are very short range. The battery pack wouldn t have to be large but they could offer larger battery packs for travel or trip buses. Wherever buses go there is almost always a power source for recharging if needed. Also what about incorporating some tesla solar panels into the roof of the bus to help with recharging? - Tesla would almost certainly make a more user friendly product. As is buses are miserable to maneuver especially with the lack of a backup camera. It s crazy to me to think that backup cameras aren t standard equipment on a 25 foot long vehicle that operates around kids. Guarantee a Tesla bus would have both front rear and side cameras to make sure that kids are safely out of the way. - Buses are already extremely expensive. New buses run over 200k easily. Adding A C to a bus is a 10k option these days. If they can make the Semi for 200k I have to believe that a Tesla bus being as simple as it would be would be possible to make around that price or even a bit higher because diesel savings would be huge. - Schools pay for a crazy amount of gas. Buses average less than 10mpg. The savings a school would make over the lifetime of the bus would be crazy compared to how much diesel is bought and used. Buses have 100 gallon tanks. So a fill up is over 200$. Per bus. At least once a week but often times 2-3 times a week. Those savings start to stack up. - Safety. Tesla makes the safest cars on the road. I have to believe that they d make a safer product than what s out there right now. Especially with the collision safety AP cameras and everything else that Tesla makes available. - Competition. There s very little. Really just 2-3 companies make the bulk of buses. Tesla would almost assuredly take a huge market share. - Schools buy at least 2-3 new buses a year and if my hunch is correct they d eventually replace their entire stable with Tesla buses. Personally I think it s a gold mine. And because people were talking about an RV in another thread the school bus chassis could be the base for a RV as well likely made at the same factory. Thoughts? | 2019-03-13 16:22:24 | 161 | Wouldn t the cost per bus be much greater with all of these technologies inside of them? I m not trying to prove you wrong just skeptical as schools try to be as cheap as possible. | 2019-03-13 16:36:07 | 74 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,440 |
Premium audio VS outside noise. | I have been enjoying my new MS 75D for the past two months and absolutely amazed how comfortable the drive is as well as so relaxing. Yes the body panel quality still needs to be improved but I knew that well before buying it and it never really bothered me to be honest as they seem to have improved a lot. Now one of my biggest reasons to love this car is also a con in a way and that is how quiet it is due to no engine but I think that is exactly why Tesla needs to make it more sound proof as it takes away from truly enjoying the drive especially on highways and even in the city. Last night I was admiring the premium sound system while the car was parked but once I was driving with heavy traffic the beautiful sound was almost ruined by outside road traffic noise. So I m curious what other Tesla owners feel about the need for better insulation against road and traffic noise? I don t think the Model S windows are double glazed like say a Mercedes or Audi so why not give the customers at least an option to choose this? My previous car was a 2006 BMW E90 with professional audio and while it was not as good as the MS but it seemed to sound so much better because the car had better sound insulation and double glazed windows (I think). & #x200B & #x200B | 2018-11-15 10:56:12 | 11 | My S has less road noise and noise from cars around than the BMW 3 series Audi A4 level. It s not a 7 series by any stretch though but better than the smaller cheaper Germans. | 2018-11-15 11:05:28 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,522 |
Anyone in NYC (ConEd) install new meter for EV specific electric rates? | I m looking to move into a new apartment (small 5 floor building with parking on ground floor) and trying to sort out charging. Owners are willing to present my case to the condo board for approval but I need some guidance feedback. There is a breaker box about 2 spaces from where I d park. The building is powered by ConEd of NY and they have specific EV charge rates if you install a metered outlet ([https: www.coned.com en our-energy-future technology-innovation electric-vehicles electric-vehicles-and-your-bill](https: www.coned.com en our-energy-future technology-innovation electric-vehicles electric-vehicles-and-your-bill)) Has anyone done this or have any feedback on installing a specific meter for an EV outlet (in my case I d just do a 14-50). I d be signing on for a long term lease so don t mind paying 1-2k for install purposes to get the charging but I m a little overwhelmed trying to suss out the logistics and have to put a plan together for the condo association. Any cost insights also appreciated. Any experience with this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! | 2020-05-21 13:54:01 | 7 | I d think they don t allow just a 14-50 because then you could use anything there? I think they want you to install a “charger” directly. | 2020-05-21 13:55:49 | 3 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 1,980 |
Merger Affecting Earnings Reports | Hey everyone I just had a quick question about how the merger could affect the way Tesla reports their financial earnings. Once they merge does Tesla have to show how much Solarcity & itself earn separately or can they simply mix together & report as 1? I guess I m asking about the legality of reporting their earnings as 1 & whether you think Elon Musk would do that or not. Many people I ve talked to have expressed concerns for not being able to tell which part of Tesla would be incurring more debt not doing so well in the earnings reports after merging. | 2016-11-19 06:22:38 | 6 | Well SCTY will become part of the Tesla Energy sector so I imagine it would be pretty simple to discern between that and Tesla Motors on an earnings report breakdown. As for the unification part I think materials about the merger have indicated a phasing out of the SCTY name throughout 2017 so they ll become fully baked into the Tesla company by then. | 2016-11-19 07:04:00 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,425 |
Tesla lowers prices of the Model 3 in Germany | As of today prices in Germany got reduced. SR+: From 42.990 € to 39.990 € LR AWD: From 52.490€ to 49.990 € Performance: From 58.490€ -> 54.990 € (all prices incl. VAT) & #x200B With subsidy the prices are as follows SR+: 33.990 € LR AWD: 43.990 € Performance: 48.990 € | 2021-01-20 09:49:59 | 227 | The dollar has dropped around 10% in value compared to the euro in the last year so not surprising. | 2021-01-20 10:10:41 | 59 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,982 |
Smart Summon and Interior Lights | I have a general question about smart summon. One thing I noticed is if I use Smart summon and then get into the car and drive off after a few minutes the interior lights come on. Is there a specific procedure to prevent this from happening do I need to get in the car and click park before driving off? Has anyone else had the same thing happen to them this happens every time I have used smart summon which leads me having to pull to the side and park and then get back into drive to turn of the interior lights. | 2019-10-23 16:40:56 | 16 | This is indeed a bug but just click the lock button when it happens. The interior lights will turn off. | 2019-10-23 17:59:13 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,317 |
Model 3 enhancements wish list | When I ve an idle moment or two in my Model 3 LR AWD (mostly when waiting to pick up my kids from various events) I muse on how the car ought evolve. It seems some advise sending requests to [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) so I ve just done that. But knowing how addresses of that sort tend to work I d thought I d post here to socialize the list further. Ideally Tesla would offer feature request voting in their own forums (dropbox for example did this really well for a while)... so I guess that d be at the top of request list. Beyond that here s a loosely categorized wall of text in no particular order... Err... my mostly stream-of-consciousness request list (looking forward to hearing other s thoughts): & #x200B *Incremental Enhancements (lower effort low cost primarily SW)* * Bluetooth Audio Playback: skip forward back \~15 30 seconds progress indicator (eg time accrued remaining) browse playlist * Push notification to the individual phone key (from the phone departing the vehicle) for lock (as alternative to audible “honk” confirmation) * Unlock charge port door from charge cable button when BTLE “key” paired to the car is in near vicinity. This should happen independently of unlocking the “cabin” doors. * Double press on charge cable button starts immediate charge (bypassing schedule) * Make use of HomeLink 5 spec s bi-directional communication to ascertain the state of the garage door (open v. closed). This would be useful to coordinate the desired behavior for auto open close when the door is an unexpected state. Additionally use cameras & image pattern recognition to detect garage door or gate open close state… this being useful for scenarios where a prior version of HomeLink is available. * Geo-fenced & cardinal orientation behaviors (e.g. don t honk upon lock at home address or don t auto-close garage if nose pointed a particular direction) * Offer an option to turn off cover art for audio until there s a reasonable level of confidence that it s going to be accurately matched (it s probably sub 50% w most of the stuff I listen to) * Tesla Corp service events calendars - the calendar app supports the notion of multiple layered calendars (eg athletics fixtures list family work et cetera)… so add in a Tesla category for 1) service appts associated w the account & car 2) local Tesla events. * Train windshield wiper neural net with manual trigger inputs (the net should thus evaluate and weigh appropriately scenarios in which a manual trigger occurred where the conditions might not have otherwise induced a wipe) * Similarly seek to refine the auto high beams behavior based on human intervention. * Sun visors should be covered in something more easily cleaned (dirty fingerprints). Non-porous - not a fabric. * Recognize that vehicles in near vicinity aren t actually dancing or intersecting when displaying them. * Airbag warning decals - they re not consequential really in any way to day to operation once you ve been made to understand not to place car seats in the front. Does the on-screen warning not suffice to satisfy regulatory requirements? If not can the be applied as temporary stickers that the owner can remove? * The red dot on the dash cam icon makes sense once you think about it but intuitively seems to indicate something needs attention. Make it monochrome along w the rest of the icon. * Support sync w popular cloud storage services (eg Dropbox OneDrive Google Drive iCloud) for saved dash cam clips. Can be either via premium data plan or only upon WiFi connection. Limiting the sync to saved events and other triggers (eg image pattern recognition detects figure w crow bar approaching w nefarious intent) economizes on bandwidth cost. * Add rear camera to dash cam recording. *Features (net new capabilities new invention more significant R& D and possible incremental per unit mfg materials cost)* * Option for real-time weather radar overlay atop map (likely data intensive so for non-premium data start w just storm warning watch bounds). * Dispense with or offer sensible alternatives to the piano black gloss finish! Fingerprints are a reality! * Multiple RBAC d Tesla accounts (vs. sharing the same login across multiple individuals w varying driver passenger privileges). * Grouping of accounts (a la iOS iCloud “family sharing”) * UI refactor enhancement to provide better progressive disclosure of complexity. Too much at once for most IMO… * Option to tune down everything on screen to only the bare essentials whilst driving… “minimalist mode” - this would be especially valuable w a OLED MicroLED display. * The “navigate” button and audio playback drawer (even at its smallest size) take up too much screen real estate IMO - shrink or place elsewhere. * Door arm rest and center console arm rest are at two slightly different heights… they ought be level (the center ought be at the same height as the door). For folks w smaller frames (narrower shoulders) this isn t an issue. Exacerbates neck & shoulder tension issues for right handed folks that spend entirely too much time in front of a keyboard mouse trackpad. * Frunk froot lid needs a different approach to latching. The present method is cumbersome (requires two hands and imprinting your handprints on the hood). Something that affirms the intent to close but can be largely facilitated through the weight of the lid. Given concerns about the fragility of the lid and mechanism I find that I avoid using it and only store very infrequently used items (eg my extra mobile charger and adapters). * Mirrors have a pretty limited field of view and the photo-chromatic capabilities seem poorly tuned or faulty to common lighting conditions - the latter could potentially be improved on in SW but the former probably needs physical changes. * Minimal rear seat climate & heater manual controls * Visualization alerting to curbs in parking lots. There s some indication of this when pulling into a spot but no obstacle visualization in the lane view or “memory” that you re parked in front of one of these things. Corrects for driver error (of which I m repeatedly guilty) in pulling forward in an open parking lot not realizing of forgetting that there occasionally dividing concrete curbs. * Active mechanisms (air flow water antifreeze jets high temperature) for auto cleaning of vehicle sensors. Automatic alerting which sensors have reduced visibility and need cleaning (this might possibly already exist… but I haven t experienced it). * User profile memory for lumbar support and center rear view mirror position (which probably means addition of motorized mirror) * Whatever the occasional “thunk” is that is heard infrequently during normal operation (I cant recall the logical explanation for it) ought be better sound dampened. Whilst a nit it doesn t inspire confidence. * Make use of interior camera recording in addition to dash cam upon detection of vehicle break in. * Add rear seat fold down lock mechanisms (manipulated in the same manner as door locks save for when in valet mode). * Place programmable RFID within the top front facing camera enclosure to allow the vehicle to “learn” toll tag gate RFIDs (similar to the way the vehicle can learn garage door opener codes). I don t know enough about the state of the art in RFID to know how practicable viable this is but I do know that I hate putting stickers on my window. * Move to USB-C w Power Delivery on all USB ports. If the intent is to continue storing TeslaCam footage on removable media (vs providing some on-board) then add a third port up front (or really anywhere else semi-concealed would suffice for this purpose). *Accessories Options (Tesla is leaving money on the table)* & #x200B * A subset of CarPlay Android Auto Echo Auto interaction (note not necessarily the integration you see on other cars). I d like to be able to use Siri to front end the Tesla command set but also provide the wider breadth of capabilities it offers. * The state of speech recognition in the vehicle lags significantly… perhaps Tesla isn t ready to cede this space fully to others but at least let folks use one of the above to front-end vehicle commands. * Screen: edge to edge display OLED MicroLED to achieve true black. * UI enhancements to account for and make use of “true” black screen tech (there s a lot of deep gray even when in night mode) * Qi wireless fast charging built in. * OEM Tow mount option (I personally don t really care to tow anything but do want to mount a bike rack) * Premium Audio+ Noise reduction package * Higher performance subwoofer speaker and enclosure (achieving a lower dynamic range whilst maintaining or improving tight response) * Additional insulation at wheel wells & front doors possibly deletion of glass overhead roof even on premium vehicles. Potential use of active noise reduction via vehicle speakers. * Option to opt out of carpet mats and into all weather maps at delivery for the uplift charge (reduces waste and very negligibly reduces cost to TSLA). * Overhead view option: additional cameras (or perhaps more sensibly expanded field of view for the existing cameras) to stitch together an overhead view * Factory option for something other than chrome trim. I d prefer the design itself factored chrome out but where “trim” is necessary to facilitate assembly provide black out or body color matched options. * Power rear trunk lid open close * Delivery center installed additional tint. * And at the height of my pedantry: I like the design of the OEM Model 3 license plate frame (how it stands it off from the paint a bit and bolt holes sit behind the plate)... save for the thick portion at the bottom w the text... given the largely unadorned bauhaus look to the car I d prefer something that just uses the thin frame all the way around w o the laser etched writing. * Interior vacuum & window washing drone that deploys when cabin is unoccupied :-) | 2019-02-03 16:53:12 | 91 | This is s really nitpicking list. I can t see missing 80% of these options. Give me Spotify and a powered trunk and I d be ecstatic. | 2019-02-03 18:38:17 | 36 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 12,155 |
Model X s side mirrors? | Does anyone care to speculate if the Model X will have mirrors rear facing cameras or cameras with an optional side mirror mount? http: www.teslamotors.com modelx features a pic with a rear facing camera s in lui of side mirrors. The latest stock holder meeting featured a pic with side mirrors. All of the pics of Model X being tested in the wild have side mirrors. | 2015-06-12 19:41:52 | 8 | Unless they ve managed to change Federal law it ll have side mirrors. | 2015-06-12 20:30:56 | 9 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 12,857 |
HW upgrade confusion | I ve read that if you have FSD you re eligible for a free upgrade to your AP HW. I bought a used 2017 MX a month ago and it came with FSD capability. Currently my car says it has HW2. Does that mean I qualify for a HW3 upgrade? If I do qualify do I just contact a service center to upgrade it? Thanks. | 2020-11-13 22:48:24 | 12 | Yes and yes! Enjoy! | 2020-11-13 22:50:03 | 17 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 7,424 |
Down Payment In Store vs Loan Approval | Hi all I checked online and couldn t find anything like this out there- I went to the Tesla Store Friday to make the jump and buy a P90D. I went over the numbers carefully and the total came out to $127 000 and I chose the lending so we looked at a 10% down payment of $12 700 plus sales tax of about another $10 000. So I put down the initial $2 500 and went on their site and applied for financing. I got approved today but the approval has numbers showing me putting 30% down instead! My avg fico credit is ~832 as of last week so I don t think it s related to me being seen as any kind of credit risk so I don t know if the amount of the loan has something to do with it? I m of course going to reach out to them and ask but I m curious if anyone came across a similar situation if those are just suggested rates and I can opt for a higher loan higher interest rate higher monthly payment instead or if Tesla is going to take that extra 20% and loan it to me as some kind of separate loan...just confused and trying to understand why there would be such a huge discrepancy. Any thoughts? I could probably handle it but it would leave me with less of a personal financial buffer than I m happy with. **Update** Hey guys thanks for the feedback. The issue was my comparable payment history. While I have a similar loan amount taken out in the past (mortgage) this one is a much shorter term and therefore a much higher monthly payment than I pay on anything else. Just updating in case anyone has the same situation down the road so that they understand. We re negotiating now and if it can t be changed I ll be looking into your suggestions below- but in any case I should be a proud P90D owner in about 6 weeks! | 2016-03-27 04:42:46 | 6 | Sounds like they have a maximum finance amount (Probably $100k). This is not uncommon regardless of circumstance. If this configuration is going to put you in an awkward financial situation maybe go with a less expensive configuration. You could also use your bank or a local credit union - or lease. | 2016-03-27 04:57:02 | 2 | Tesla Financing Options | 5,626 |
Any idea if the Giga Texas Long Range Model Y uses the front giga casting? Or is it identical to the Fremont design? | I ve read that the Long Range Model Y built at Giga Texas uses the 2170 batteries. I m curious if it uses the front casting that the 4160 Model Y uses or if it uses the same traditional front chassis structure that the freemont long range model y uses. | 2022-07-19 15:33:03 | 12 | Austin built LR is same as Fremont one. Except minor changes like rear shelf that MIC has already. | 2022-07-19 17:31:36 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,682 |
Rat gnawed on front bumper wiring harness | Tesla mobile service came out today to see why my outside temperature gauge wasn t reading in my Model 3. He found that a rat had been gnawing on the wires. None of the other sensors were severely damaged just the temp. He said that they don t repair wires they only replace the whole harness. I do most of the work on my other cars and this job doesn t seem very difficult but he said they don t sell that part to people directly. Anyone have any experience replacing it themselves or the cost of Tesla doing it? Thanks! & #x200B **Update:** Tesla quoted at $158 total. $65 part and $93 labor. It s an easy drop off for me on my way to work so I might just have them do it as I d hate to possibly mess up the AP sensors. | 2020-01-08 18:49:46 | 34 | Oh and hire an exterminator 😂🤣😂 | 2020-01-08 19:00:07 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,133 |
Test drove my first Tesla today with every expectation of buying a new SR MY | Good morning all. Last night I went to the closest Tesla dealership for a test drive and my first ever experience with a Tesla EV. I spent hours and hours on research over the past several months and with the recent release of the SR MY and myself purchasing my first home I thought I d finally be making the switch. Please excuse the wall of text I ll work on formatting once I get coffee and sit at my PC. For now I m writing this up from my bed as the memories are fresh and I m unable to sleep. A bit of background: I m a 30 year old guy who would consider myself a former “car guy” but have shifted towards practicality in recent years. Loving tech and finally having my own home to charge an EV I thought this switch would be a no brainer but my test drive didn t seal the deal for me as expected. I test drove the new SR MY as this is what I had decided would be the model I would buy. I wanted to make sure that I didn t test drive a performance model and then purchase the SR which I can imagine feel vastly different in terms of acceleration. First thing I noticed- The seats were the most comfortable that I had ever sat in. Truly they re a dream. The white interior was beautiful in person and the leather felt so smooth. Myself and my GF talked about them repeatedly on the ~45 minute drive home but unfortunately that s where the wow factor stopped. Upon sitting down into the Y a Tesla employee gave me a brief rundown of how everything works prior to our departure. Shockingly the screen was unresponsive and laggy on more than one occasion and section of the settings. This was extremely surprising to myself my GF and the employee and certainly disheartening given the fact that everything is operated from this screen. It occurred again even while on the drive and my GF attempted to click around. Is this common? I sure hadn t seen it in the YouTube videos I had viewed. I m not sure of an explanation but I can t think of a great one. One foot driving- This didn t come as a surprise to me like it may to some as I had read about it pretty extensively. But the harshness certainly took a bit to get used to. During my drive I wasn t able to master it and become a smooth driver. Sure it would probably become second nature after a few days. But with my small taste of Tesla I can t say I loved this feature but certainly understand the engineering benefits. The pano sunroof was beautiful! I loved it but also wondered how effective the tint is when the sun is overhead. I previously owned a 2016 VW GTI that had a mesh screen that covered the sunroof when closed. Even with the mesh and the tinted glass I still found myself wanting a form of a blackout cover. I can t help but think that the MY would also leave me feeling this way at one point or another. I d love to hear back Fr on anyone with opinions on this. Space- This was my favorite aspect of the vehicle. Sitting upright comfortable and having tons of cargo room was truly incredible. I also laid down in the back with my GF and I can confidently say that we could sleep in this vehicle if we were to take it camping (I m 6 4”). Suspension- Many reported a harsh ride in their MY. I didn t find this to be the case at all. The car rod smooth lacked major wind noise (single pane glass on this test drive vehicle) and was overall very pleasant to ride in. Acceleration- Many people overhyped this for me. Although the SR MY is “slow” for a Tesla at 0-60 in 5.4 seconds many told me that the instant torque of an EV would surprise me and be very addicting. This was not the case at all. Enough so that I asked the sales associate to come out to the vehicle after my drive to see if the car was on valet mode or something similar. It was truly sluggish and not in any way impressive to me. Context: I currently drive a 2019 VW Golf R with minor modifications that have my 0-60 at ~3.5 seconds. FSD- I had zero intentions of purchasing this package but knew I had to try it on my test drive. From lack of aggression to hugging the yellow line around turns I wasn t able to tolerate allowing the vehicle to drive for long. I didn t feel initial confidence in it and in very little time I confirmed the notion that I wouldn t want to pay for that feature. One question I do have to you all- is the audible tone announcing a green light available without self driving? I truly loved that feature. Overall if I had to rate the SR MY I d probably give it a 7.6 10. It s a fine car and may scratch the itch for those wanting a spacious EV for less than a MX but for me the hype was far too strong. I came in with high expectations expecting to leave the lot placing an order and saying goodbye to my beloved Golf R. But I can confidently say that I won t be purchasing a SR MY anytime soon if ever. I know I m disparaging this vehicle in a Tesla subreddit where the fans are passionate but I wanted to accept the downvotes that will follow in hopes of giving an unbiased opinion that differs from the majority that I ve came across. I ll gladly answer questions about my experience in the comments and would love to hear feedback from anyone who is willing to cultivate constructive conversation regarding this topic. For now happy Sunday and thank you for reading. EDIT: I made this post with one intention- To educate those who are potentially interested in the new SR MY more specifically individuals with no experience in the EV world like myself. I was hoping to learn more answer questions and cultivate good conversation on the topic and my specific situation. Prior to posting driving the car and even before researching a great friend of mine whom I respect a lot warned me that this sub was “a cult”. I didn t dismiss his opinion but I also didn t allow it to stop me from posting honestly. Unfortunately after reading the responses here many of these replies are very emotionally charged. I have been downvoted for stating facts such as “no it was not in any form of valet chill mode” confirmed by a Tesla employee. Downvoting factual responses devalues the voting system on Reddit and screams cult following with blinders due to a preconceived dedication to a company. This blind consumerism is something that I d urge you all to think critically about and attempt to avoid in the future if you truly love this company as it seems. The detrimental effects of this mindset drive lackluster development and competition allowing for companies to produce mediocre products and slows innovation. I truly do not see this happening with Tesla as they re extreme innovators and I admire the barriers they have broken. But this type of behavior can easily become the norm for many other facets of life interests and purchases. All of that said I m considering scheduling another test drive. One with a dual motor MY to see how “peppy” it feels and in hopes that the screen freezes were an anomaly. I ll likely report back with an update upon completion of this test drive but know it will be another brutally honest review. I expect the continued downvotes but thankfully these made up internet points mean nothing. Happy Super Bowl Sunday all. And please strive to remove emotion from your judgement when possible. | 2021-02-07 10:59:55 | 66 | Never had any sluggish screen might have just needed a reboot. And you shouldn t buy the slow one coming from a Golf R. | 2021-02-07 12:11:12 | 51 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 20,563 |
Regen Braking Setting Missing | Hey guys. Just picked a Model S today with less than 50 miles on it. I cannot find the setting for regenerative braking. I am checking under the Driving setting. Here is a picture of what I see when I open the Driving settings. [Picture](https: cdn.discordapp.com attachments 584661046887841813 726197505460666378 20200626_142404.jpg) Am i not looking in the correct place? I looked in my family member s Model X and the regen braking settings were under Driving. I apologize if this issue was already covered. I tried searching for it but found no results. | 2020-06-26 22:15:26 | 15 | I would try to do the soft reboot... That might fix it for you. If it doesn t then I d make an appt at Tesla to have a tech look at it. | 2020-06-26 22:41:43 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,335 |
Feature Request: Mobile app display *outdoor* and battery temp | Just like while in the car we can see the outdoor temp and how warm the battery is (in regards to regen capability) I think it would be nice for the mobile app to show us that info as well. | 2019-12-19 14:08:57 | 69 | I d rather see nerd-mode stats on screen in the car: amperages temperatures voltages and such. And temps ofc | 2019-12-19 15:59:03 | 15 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 6,446 |
Teslas can now use Autocharge+ on EVgo with CCS adapter | Not sure if his has been posted but found this on r electriccars but couldn t cross-post it. Link to original post: [(1) Teslas can now use Autocharge+ on EVgo with CCS adapter : electricvehicles (reddit.com)](https: www.reddit.com r electricvehicles comments ydntf9 teslas_can_now_use_autocharge_on_evgo_with_ccs ) Nice to see EVGo adding plug and charge. https: preview.redd.it luhvwmzxe6w91.jpg?width=1440& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=92d88af80ec1d7d6bc4a91f27f0228d2f8a15360 | 2022-10-26 16:27:57 | 306 | Hopefully we see this kind of thing expand to other CCS charging providers. | 2022-10-26 16:51:19 | 79 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,500 |
A positive Model 3 repair story! Shocking!! | In the final days of December another driver rear-ended my Model 3 when I was at a four-way stop. She tried blaming me -- told her insurance company I reversed into her. I laughed and sent them the Tesla cam footage end of story. I even circled the driver s face in the footage -- where she was looking at her phone (or possibly the car stereo) as she drove into me. She hit my bumper and the rear quarter panel. Tesla service center in Burbank said they could have fixed the bumper -- it bolts on -- but the quarter panel needed to be welded on so they sent me to an approved body shop nearby (Los Angeles). With all the repair horror stories I wanted to share a positive story for once. The body shop had a 5-star reputation on Yelp and while the Tesla service rep said he couldn t specifically recommend one shop over another -- when I asked if they were good he said absolutely. And I confirmed on Tesla s website that they were an approved body shop. Body shop had both body parts in stock but they said the delay was the welding. To weld on the quarter panel they had to first remove the battery -- otherwise it could damage the battery (I heard someone else say it could also kill the welder? Not sure if that s accurate or not?). And to remove the batterty they essentially had to strip the car down to the frame. Remove everything. So this otherwise simple repair went from $4 000 to $18 000 in the blink of an eye the vast majority being the labor it would take to disassemble and then reassemble the car. Yikes. Bonus good luck? They were an approved body shop for the other driver s insurance company. Which means all $ went directly to them and I didn t have to worry about a thing. Body shop estimated a three-week repair assuming Tesla sent all the parts that were needed (parts underneath the exterior... brackets and the like). Well Tesla emailed me an update a few days later that all requested parts had been shipped and after exactly three weeks my Model 3 was ready for pickup. Seriously it was smooth and straightforward. Body shop told me the Tesla parts nightmare still happened on occasion but that it had become quite rare and they were getting really good at delivering parts on time. Meanwhile I was driving a Model S from Enterprise car rental because I told the insurance company I had no intention of having to buy gas while my car was repaired and the only car I could charge at home with my Tesla wall unit was another Tesla. I ve had my Model 3 back since Friday and it s looking great. So maybe just maybe the parts nightmare stories are mostly in the past now.... & #x200B edit: if you re bored here s a link to the dashcam footage that I d posted last month. [https: www.reddit.com r TeslaCam comments ec4nph i\_wasnt\_going\_to\_post\_the\_video\_until\_she\_told ](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaCam comments ec4nph i_wasnt_going_to_post_the_video_until_she_told ) | 2020-01-27 03:47:34 | 115 | For every bad story there s hundreds of positive experiences. I had homelink installed at my house by the mobile service tech. It was great. BMW and Porsche have never come over to fix my cars. | 2020-01-27 06:08:03 | 35 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 988 |
People with home chargers do you have a Tesla wall charger or a regular wall charger? | I m wondering what kind of chargers you have at home and why? I don t have a Tesla but my next car will 95% be electric and the Model 3 is a good contender. Also people with Tesla chargers what are you gonna do if you ever change car brand? | 2020-04-25 22:08:19 | 29 | Tesla charger for the aesthetic. Considered a non-tesla one briefly but they were close to the same cost. Having the button on the handle is nice too. Not a chance I m leaving Tesla anyway. | 2020-04-25 22:12:02 | 40 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 15,083 |
Model 3 Car Sickness | Has anyone had any issues with their passengers getting car sick? It obviously drives much different than other cars so I m wondering if the regen breaking and instant acceleration response is the issue. My three year old got sick in the back seat and has been complaining about her tummy hurting when we go on extended rides. I m thinking she sits a little lower in the back seat which limits her vision too. Anyways is anybody else experiencing car sickness from their backseat passengers? | 2019-07-08 01:52:28 | 10 | Chill mode is your friend. My wife gets car sick easily. Chill definitely helps and I need to use AP sparingly since it s still not quite as smooth as a real driver. I don t bother with changing the regen setting but I do pray attention to keeping braking as smooth as possible. | 2019-07-08 01:57:04 | 25 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 11,645 |
Tesla Motors states their cyclone rims are 3% more efficient but *why*? | I already tried asking this in r askscience but the moderators after 24 hours have still not un-hidden my post (TIL new posters there automatically have their posts hidden. yay reddit bastion of free and open...wait no that s a lie. Anyway...) I was drooling over a Tesla Model S yesterday and I saw that they recommend either their 19 or 21 cyclone rims as the ideal choice for range. (example: http: www.teslamotorsclub.com attachment.php?attachmentid=28593& d=1376920577) Some digging showed me that their internal testing revealed those rims to be 3% more efficient. The question I couldn t find an answer to is why? (stock rims: http: imagecdn2.panjo.com images 06a1ec04-e0a3-4e99-8ae4-bbefb684d3572.jpg) I thought maybe it had something to do with cooling but none of my theories made much sense because the hottest part the electric motor is far out of reach of any air draft that rim could create. The brakes themselves wouldn t need that level of cooling nor would cooling them yield a range increase. The only explanation that seemed to make any sense was something to do with the aerodynamics of air flowing around the wheel but my extremely limited knowledge of aerodynamics keeps me from knowing what terms to google or fields to research to answer my own question. Most of the articles I could find about tire air flow had to do with F1 cars or other racing vehicles and never went into engineer type specifications. Halp? | 2015-09-04 15:04:32 | 48 | Air flows over the surface of the cyclone fins more smoothly meaning less resistance. Where as the stock rims as you linked have a distinct vertical flat angle against the wind causing more resistance. That resistance over the course of 260+ miles equates to a few miles of lost energy. Also those space gaps in the stock rims allow more air to potentially pull air inwards thereby creating more resistance. | 2015-09-04 15:10:56 | 20 | Model Y Wheel Options | 19,280 |
Tesla rep called: The Model Y LR RWD I had reserved will NOT be manufactured ever. | Like the title says. I ve had a long range rear wheel drive Model Y reserved since the announcement day. Rep just called trying to get me to upgrade to the AWD LR model saying she ll keep my initial reservation price of $7k for FSD if I do so (rather than the $10k it seems to now cost). She said this is a limited time offer and they haven t given them any guidance as to how long it will be good for — BUT most importantly says that the company has decided NOT to manufacture the long range rear wheel drive Model Y whatsoever. I live in Southern California and have absolutely no interest in all wheel drive — but I live in Southern California where everything is far away and have a definitive interest in long range battery capacity. So that sucks. | 2021-02-18 16:51:01 | 126 | Elon also said they weren t going to make a Standard Range Y yet here we are. Never isn t a thing for Tesla. | 2021-02-18 18:04:31 | 117 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,162 |
Vanity Plate Ideas for a Tesla? | Hello I am planning to buy a Model S or a Model X. Do you guys have vanity plates on your Tesla or any creative ideas? | 2015-09-12 20:35:12 | 6 | I have mine but If I was to get another one it would be Meowdl S | 2015-09-13 13:47:44 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,042 |
Model 3 Efficiency | I know there are a ton of variables that go into to range of electric cars (how fast you re going hold hot cold it is outside what you re running in the car (heat AC etc)) but was incredibly surprised yesterday when I took my Model 3 LR AWD (non-p) for my first “long” trip yesterday. Went from Chicago area to Champaign IL (about 150 miles one way). Charged up to 100% the night before thinking it would take about 60-65% to get down. Ended up I got into Champaign with 15% left of range (and this is despite the fact that at the start of the trip the nav estimated I would have 38% left). Granted it was cold(er) than summer time but warmer for Chicago standards (upper 40s). I had the heat on at a modest 67 degrees and set the car on AP for almost the whole trip at 72 mph. Again I get all that affects range but I m honestly surprised it almost halved my range. All that said the car was amazing and supercharging was very easy convenient but overall was kind of concerned that when traveling long distances you never truly know how much range you will have until you re actually on your trip. | 2018-12-02 16:24:12 | 18 | The nav thinks you ll be going at the speed limit with no headwind and no heating. Given the cold temperatures and the heating it doesn t seem all that surprising. Turning the heat onto recirculate for periods of time so it s not constantly heating new air and using seat heaters more and blowers less can help with range. Typically I don t bother taking my jacket off when I get in the car so I like it colder in the cabin anyway. It s amazing how much energy it takes to increase the temperature of air by ~50F. | 2018-12-02 17:04:35 | 11 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,722 |
Busy year for Tesla! | Am I missing anything major? & #x200B Model S X More range 370 325 miles 200 145kw charging Air suspension & #x200B Supercharger v3 250kw HW3 FSD Gigafactory 3 & #x200B Navigate on Ap Advanced Summon dog mode fart app atari games romance mode sentry mode dashcam App improvements - seat heating service apts media etc & #x200B Model 3 250kw charging $35k version track mode European sales Leasing 5% more power faster acceleration Longer range for LR RWD & #x200B Model Y reveal | 2019-04-24 01:12:29 | 18 | Faster acceleration in the M3 | 2019-04-24 01:15:14 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,093 |
Tesla Stats App (iOS) beta now has “Smart Sentry Mode” (location-based auto enable) and soon upgraded Control Center options | I beta test the app and I am excited because I just got a beta update that has smart sentry mode enabling. Tesla does not allow you to enable sentry mode by default and this will proactively enable Sentry Mode anywhere (or allow you to not enable if you re at a safe location). As an owner this is awesome! | 2019-03-18 22:09:16 | 52 | Is this app you are talking about? Stats: For Tesla Model S X 3 by MaaDoTaa https: itunes.apple.com us app stats-for-tesla-model-s-x-3 id1191100729 | 2019-03-18 22:13:11 | 7 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 19,539 |
My Model 3 REALLY impressed me tonight | I was driving home after shopping this evening with my fiance. It s dark out and raining so visibility is pretty poor. The cool rain was falling on to hot asphalt so there was some steam coming up from the roadways as well to make things all the better. We were driving down a country road going about 45 MPH with TACC enabled but not AutoSteer. Out of nowhere my Model 3 starts to brake pretty hard and I m thinking oh how nice another instance of phantom braking. Normally I step on the gas during these events to get my car back up to speed but I didn t this time and I m glad I didn t. It turns out a person in dark clothing on a bicycle with no lights on was traveling in the same direction as we were on the right-hand side of the road. I couldn t see him until I was right up on him. My Model 3 saw him well enough in advance to start braking so I could safely pass him at a reasonable speed. I was SHOCKED the car even spotted him. It was dark moderately raining foggy from the roadways and he was off to the side of the road and through it all it saw him and started braking. The vision system may not be perfect yet but tonight I m more thrilled with my car than usual. Just thought I would share. | 2019-09-02 00:49:51 | 441 | Radar really helps. 8 cameras plus radar plus sonar is why I use tacc and eap as much as possible. A human just doesn t get that much data. And if you are paying attention while using it it only makes you a better driver. | 2019-09-02 01:06:28 | 155 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 13,261 |
New voice commands seem cool but my Tesla only listens it never actually hears me. | I ve tried to play with all the new voice commands but my car never actually hears anything it just listens forever. This happened to me before 2019.40.50.1 but voice commands weren t that good so I didn t notice much. Now that there are lots of new commands I would like to have hands free control but it seems completely unusable. I sat in my car trying many different commands I ve seen in reviews - open glove box call Mom text dad turn on all seat heaters etc. All my car does is pop up the microphone in the green circle and then show me different suggestions. I ve tried to do a restart the car by pushing both scroll wheels at the same time but that hasn t seemed to resolve things. Does anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions on fixing this? | 2019-12-25 00:10:48 | 130 | I created a similar post earlier today it sounds like a subset of users are having issues with getting voice commands to work. Earlier today just after I installed the update no commands would work when I used the scroll wheel button however every time when I used the microphone icon on the touch screen they d work. Now neither is working. I am hoping there s a patch that fixes this soon. | 2019-12-25 00:54:38 | 57 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 13,998 |
Talent retention in Tesla | I attended a conference recently where one of the main speakers introduced by sharing Reno s economy and how it is attracting top talent. He shared that his own son who is a U Penn engineering graduate a land a top performer is moving to Reno working in Gigafactory (although the father speaker was really questioning his decision to move to a place like Reno). The point he was making is how Tesla like companies are changing economic landscape of Reno. But what struck me is that for every executive that we hear leaving poached away from tesla they attract equal or more top talents. I also know someone personally working at Tesla who was the top electronics engineer (highest GPA and what not) of THE top engineering college of his country. I also did some random profile checks of engineers at Tesla and found loads and loads of graduates of Stanford and CMU and such top notch schools. My point being of all the things Tesla is trying to solve attracting and retaining talent shouldn t be any problem. | 2018-05-18 22:43:38 | 89 | Here in Silicon Valley turnover is a constant. We don t hear about it every time one of the engineers or managers leave Apple Google or Facebook for one of the other top 10 SV companies but it s happening every day just as it is with Tesla. It s part of the culture. | 2018-05-19 00:20:39 | 78 | Future of Electric Cars | 18,207 |
tesla semi has been tested by linfox at the anglesea proving grounds in Victoria Australia this week | I was told today by a source that linfox has been testing a tesla semi at the anglesea proving grounds this week. Linsey Fox is not yet sold on the idea of self driving semi s. Range is in the 400-50 km range. | 2017-11-14 13:02:32 | 78 | For info Lindsay Fox is the Australian owner of the aforementioned Linfox a logistics company. https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Lindsay_Fox | 2017-11-14 13:34:08 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,534 |
Software updates for older models | Hello I ll preface my question stating that I am considering purchasing a CPO 2013 2014 Model S. I was curious if the pre-autopilot hardware models (let s say a 2013 Model S) still receive software updates. I see the latest software version is 8.1 and many of the new features are around autopilot functions but there looks to be updates for things like voice commands media player and navigation. I understand the autopilot features will not work on a vehicle without the necessary hardware. In short -> Do the older models still receive the latest software updates? Thanks in advance for your help. | 2017-05-28 15:28:56 | 11 | I picked up my 2013 in February.... I ve had one software update and that was at the end of March. | 2017-05-28 16:17:44 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 17,482 |
Just came back from my local Tesla tested the model 3 and the model Y | I have a reservation on the CT but I have never been a tesla at all. Figured it was time to actually see one in person and drive it. Was no model s s to be tested so did a model 3 long range and a model Y. I had thought they would be different vehicles but they drove almost exactly the same. Sales guy said as much also. Only difference (besides a little less range and a few more $$) was the body. SUv compared to car. So more room in the Y. But they did in fact drive the same way. I was just sitting higher in the model Y. And here I thought they would be a lot different. I spent two hours with both vehicles driving and playing with all the features. I thought I would hate the interior coming from a traditionally ICE car. One screen the the middle and the rest seemed like I was sitting at my desk with nothing on it. But I was surprised that I kinda liked it. The center screen as a little distracting as I drove but they said you would get use to it. And playing around with it - everything was very intuitive. You can do everything you can in an ICE car with the two scroll buttons on the wheel and the main consol. I do like knobs and buttons and thought I would hate just a screen but nope. kinda OK. The car while felt very nice and solid was not up to a BMW quality inside. Not even my dodge ram s inside. But it was way better than my honda accord. Which I thought the accord and model 3 where kinda the same quality. But sitting in the 3 and Y I could easily feel and tell it is a good amount above the accord. I always thought the 3 and accord would be the same. So I was very happy with the feel and the build quality of the tesla. Even the speed meter at least they put in the upper left hand corner so wasn t so bad to see my speed. Was a little off setting that I think one or both side mirrors pivoted down while backing up? Can that be turned off? I use a backup camera just was strange to see side camera views also. Kinda cool. First time driving a fully EV also. No noise was kinda strange at first and after that I loved it. It drove much better than I thought it would and was pretty fast a WOW feeling as I drive it all over town and the highway. I have always wanted an EV but now I really want one. They put me in chill mode and standard mode I think it was? Whatever the two setting in the drive setting where they were both to the left. And man the instant torque and speed as mind blowing. Although I can see where its too much speed. Speed limits all over I would have to be careful the first few months not to get a ticket. Then I moved the setting over to sport and standard and was even more WOW. Regen braking both loved and hated it. I pretty fast got use to regen breaking and loved almost not having to hit the brakes ever. Such a great idea concept. But then coming from years of ice driving there is no coasting at all. Me and my wife kinda got motion sick (my fault) as I kept letting off the gas pedal and slowing down instead of coasting. speed up slow down like a roller coaster. Salesman said will take a little bit to get use to that you have to keep your foot on the pedal not let off of it. Whatever tesla I get I think it will be hard driving as I drive an ICE for work. So tesla I have to drive one way I wonder if that will mess my driving up on the ice vehicle. We are in line for the CT but thinking maybe grab a model 3 and have that for a few years while we see the CT roll out and see if they have any problems. The model 3 I think was the long range - all wheel drive and a range of I think he said 340 miles. I was looking at other ev s but after that drive I think I am convinced as of right now tesla is the way to go. Good (great) vehicle and fast charging and super chargers everywhere. We lean to the model 3. Only bad thing is they said about a 16 week wait for one or more. | 2021-06-05 18:59:28 | 78 | Glad you enjoyed it! The general consensus is Model 3 if you prefer handling and model y if you prefer space. | 2021-06-05 19:07:56 | 72 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,396 |
Best road trip speed mileage sweet spot? | I ve been an extremely happy M3 LR AWD owner since early December 2018 and am about to embark on my first actual road trip. My wife and I will he driving to our family s home about 380 miles away. We ve done this trip dozens of times before in our trusty 2011 Ford Fiesta but are excited to try this with the Tesla. We come from a pretty small town in KY and a Tesla would be fun to educate some of the people about so as much as I m not an introvert I expect to field a lot of questions. Questions I ve got for this sub: 1. Is the in car nav ok or should I use abetterrouteplanner? 2. How long should I realistically expect for SC stops? I ll be taking a 9 month old along and this is her first road trip as well so long stops are fine. 3. Is there a speed that isn t great to drive at? We normally do 75-80 in the Fiesta most of the way home but autopilot along with massively more comfy chairs make slow and steady a lot more appealing. 4. Is there any advice you could impart on a first time M3 road tripper? There are plenty of super chargers between Chicago and central KY so I m not really sweating that too much. Thanks in advance! | 2019-06-08 20:03:24 | 9 | Car nav is incredible. I compared the Tesla planner versus abetterrouteplanner on a recent 2.5k roundtrip adventure to Florida from Wisconsin. Not only was the Tesla nav more accurate but it did a better job maximizing charging times. It eliminated all range anxiety (if I had any) too! & #x200B My advice? Trust the Tesla! | 2019-06-08 20:05:40 | 16 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 2,844 |
I m putting a dollar into savings for every Tesla that I see this year | Since I thought of this idea last week I started my count at 10 (I saw four in one day just from my work commute so this number s a little low if anything). Aside from having more legitimate savings goals for the year I m letting this be my fun way to save money. Currently at 14. We ll see how it goes! Update: 17! | 2016-02-16 20:33:17 | 25 | If I did this for 2015: 5 dollars saved. * 2 in my hometown (Edmonton AB CAN) * 2 in NYC during vacation there * 1 in NYC Test drive I took | 2016-02-16 20:41:12 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,078 |
Cam Viewer for Tesla (iOS) | iOS 13 added the possibility to connect USB storage devices through the lightning port. So I looked for an app and found Cam Viewer for Tesla that looked alright and was decently priced at €5 5. So I installed it and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. I wanted to share my experience since it s pretty useful to be able to review footage in the car. **Connecting** At first I was using a cheap AliExpress lightning to USB converter. This wasn t a good idea. For some reason the device kept disconnecting out of nowhere. So I decided to get the official Apple USB adapter since I have more uses for this than just Cam Viewer. This cable requires me to be connected to a lightning power cable in order to read from my USB stick but that isn t too much of a bother with 4 USB ports in the car. **The App** The app works quite well. You sleect the TeslaCam folder on the USB drive and then you can view all the videos. It shows all 4 video s with one video in a larger viewer just like most viewers allow. You can scroll through a video or play at 1 3 or 5x speed. I do feel like it drops some frames while scrolling so you might miss something. I would like a 10x speed option and an option to jump to event like the web based SentryCam app. When you ve found a video you want to save it gives you 2 options. You can save the videos to the app where you can view them any time or save all 4 videos to your camera roll. I would like an option to save only a single video since often I don t need all 4 videos to share. In the long term I hope this app will be maintained. I looked at the developer and their previous apps haven t been updated in years. So I fear that the next major iOS update may break the app. Hopefully I m worng about this or Tesla adds a viewer in the car before that time. [You can get the app here.](https: apps.apple.com nl app cam-viewer-for-tesla id1476197999?l=en) Edit: Forgot to add that I d also love a combined export feature since it currently just exports the separate videos. | 2019-10-25 13:58:45 | 50 | Thank you for the review. Good info as I am considering doing this as well. | 2019-10-25 14:03:21 | 8 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 3,342 |
Renting Hertz Model Y - Premium Connectivity Expired | Is this typical for rental vehicles? Can I pay for a month and cancel through touchscreen and cancel? First time Tesla driver here— wonderful car but want to use more of the features while renting. | 2022-06-18 15:08:12 | 30 | Use your phone hotspot and connect via wifi. Otherwise inly things you will be missing is Spotify and all streaming content while parked (Youtube Netflix etc) and traffic information on maps. | 2022-06-19 13:36:22 | 13 | Car Software Update Connectivity | 16,422 |
Feature request: if a door is non-forcefully opened within 10 seconds of Sentry Mode being activated do NOT save that Sentry clip | More than half of all my Sentry Mode recordings are of me opening my own door because the phone didn t authenticate to the car until a second or two after I started pulling the door handle and it thought I was trying to break in. I don t want all those 1.5GB clips clogging up my USB drive much less needing to go through them later! EDIT: since a lot of people seem to be misreading the title I m only proposing not saving the clip when *you* successfully open *your own door.* Basically a bug fix more than anything. | 2020-01-05 15:52:12 | 56 | What about that one person who will one day be forced into their Tesla at gun knife point? An edge case for sure but I m sure they ll probably wish they had the footage. The recordings auto delete as more space is needed. | 2020-01-05 16:04:43 | 45 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 6,540 |
does anybody have any idea when matchbox or Hot Wheels are coming out with the Model S this year? | -[Matchbox](http: i.kinja-img.com gawker-media image upload s--_K9tJF5q-- c_fit fl_progressive q_80 w_636 1208225077366710417.jpg) -[hot wheels](http: 3.bp.blogspot.com -wU_jOWgxdO0 VUt-pil4RqI AAAAAAABSMg ndHyST2bzfo s1600 2015507210934.jpg) | 2015-05-12 14:38:56 | 8 | At last! I can finally afford a Tesla. | 2015-05-12 16:38:24 | 8 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 25,358 |
Oh no I ve only gone and done it...... | ......got the most expensive toy I ve ever bought. I have been waiting for this moment for years and putting away those pennies so I could finally get my hand on the future. Any tips from owners would be most appreciated! I was wondering if anyone knows how long it takes to deliver to the UK? The Tesla Factory is building your Model S for the last two weeks now..... :) http: imgur.com gallery EQSl1Li new | 2016-01-13 12:48:38 | 44 | Well it s not a toy.... Except for last night I was doing donuts in the snow ). | 2016-01-13 14:44:43 | 22 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 14,288 |
Camping in a Model Y | My partner and I are going to be driving my Model Y from my place in the Bay Area to his place in Washington (Came home to pick up my Model Y. Planning on sheltering in place in Washington.) and we re going to try camping in the back during the trip. Based on reviews from campers using the Model 3 I decided to pick up an Exped Megamat Duo 10M as the mattress. I m happy to report that it fits with room to spare (though it does fit a little snugly around the wheel wells). The USB-C ports should be easily accessible for charging smartphones and I can t wait to see the view of the stars through that panoramic roof. Edit: I did not move the driver or passenger seat from standard driving positions to fit the mattress in so we ll have more headroom available than the photo shows. [Mattress Fitment](https: i.imgur.com u8Mmoja.jpg) | 2020-04-23 01:30:35 | 280 | If you can keep good track of the range cost of camping (internal temp external temp time spent etc.). It ll be especially interesting to see how efficient the model Y heat pump is in that scenario and I m sure a lot of folks here would appreciate that data. I m planning on doing the same at some point but I ve got no idea how much battery I need to camp in the car. Have a great time | 2020-04-23 03:35:26 | 101 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,356 |
Model Y prices increased $1k! | Model Y prices increased $1k! It seemed in the beginning that Model Y prices will stay the same and indeed they didn t change when prices of other models went up last week. Now a week later however the prices on all trim levels are $1 000 higher than it was immediately after the unveil... | 2019-03-24 22:09:46 | 63 | Welcome to Teslanomics 101. | 2019-03-24 22:25:59 | 51 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,025 |
Model 3 Features without EAP | Got my non owner line waiter 11am Pittsburgh reservation invite yesterday. And I was wondering about what exactly I would be missing out on if I defer getting EAP. If I don t get EAP: Do I still get rain sensing wipers? Do I get traffic aware cruise control (without Lane keeping)? Do I get regular (dumb) cruise control? Do I get any form of auto parking? Is there any other feature I might be surprised to find I don t have? Any chance of an EAP trial like they did for model S before? | 2018-02-23 15:46:12 | 56 | 1. Yes 2. No (sadly) 3. Yes (Fortunately) 4. No (parking sensors are excellent though). 5. Nope. EAP is seriously just lane keeping TACC autopark and Summon at the moment. 6. Probably not at this time. We ll see what the future brings. | 2018-02-23 15:52:49 | 39 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 11,745 |
Model 3 LR RWD w autopilot price and delivery in the US | Walked in to a local Tesla Store earlier this week and asked about the Model 3 LR RWD. 2 sales reps were in on the conversation and they both mentioned that the LR RWD was available to order for $44 500. When I asked if autopilot was included in the price one said yes the other said no. Seems the reps may still be misinformed. My question is for those who had to purchase the Model 3 off menu have you gotten delivery yet? If so did you have to pay the additional $3k for autopilot? | 2019-04-28 20:09:33 | 19 | 44.5 does not include AP. | 2019-04-28 20:56:54 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,801 |
Open sunroof shows massive spike to power consumption | Try it go on highway at 70mph pull your real-time energy screen and watch the spike happen. Pretty clear that taking out those rear view mirrors could be huge for eliminating drag. | 2015-04-20 02:18:40 | 26 | > Try it Can I borrow yours? | 2015-04-20 05:43:28 | 23 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,414 |
Help with charging | I haven t seen any posts about this so forgive me if it s a duplicate. I m heavily considering getting a Tesla but I m not a home owner. As such I don t have the option of charging my Tesla overnight when I m sleeping. There are a ton of charging stations all around where I live but is it worth it to get a Tesla if I can t charge at home? Does anyone else have experience with charging solely at public facilities? Thanks for your input! | 2020-01-24 07:25:28 | 20 | You can actually “test drive” the lifestyle right now by using the info on PlugShare.com. 1. Track how many miles you drive in a day and multiply that by 1.25 to account for range losses due to environment Sentry Mode use the heavy foot you might develop from having so much torque instantly available to you... 2. Go to the chargers you think you d use park your car (not at a charging station of course) and entertain yourself for as long as it would take to get those miles added back to your range. PlugShare generally has rate of charge info for individual charging stations to give you how many miles of range you ll add per hour of charging. 3. Calculate the fees you d have to pay for the time or kWhs you charged which is info also found on PlugShare. That will tell you right there whether or not you can work your charging into your lifestyle. I know that we could *not* add away-from-home charging into our lives in spite of all of the charging stations around us and where we spend our time. | 2020-01-24 12:19:41 | 43 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,813 |
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Trying to decide between a new Model S Long Range and a new Model 3 Performance | I realize this is a bit apples to oranges but my current Model 3 Performance is leased (hindsight is 20 20) and will be up in September of this year. I want to get my order in for my next car and am having a really hard time deciding between the Model S and another Model 3 Performance. Since I can t test drive a Model S and Turo is INSANELY expensive for a single day I thought I d ask for some advice here. For those who have had the opportunity to drive both how does the Model S compare to the Model 3 Performance in terms of handling? is the steering wheel a total nuisance? Does the Model S handle like a boat compared to the 3? Does it have more or less body roll? Things like that. Hoping to get an order in this week or next. Doing my best to convince myself I don t need the Plaid. Edit: Autocorrect typo. Also edit: Anybody in the Los Angeles area who s willing to trade a coffee for a quick spin in a new Model S? | 2022-05-24 18:03:25 | 26 | I went from a 3P to an S LR and the S LR is much quicker feeling but also isn t as nimble in corners. Overall prefer the S. Much nicer on the inside. Yoke is a non issue IMO. If you happen to be near Austin feel free to come see mine sometime. | 2022-05-24 21:06:10 | 61 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 21,510 |
Automatic doors and the Tesla Network | We know that once full self-driving is available Tesla will let you make your Model S or X available as an autonomous taxi-like entity on the Tesla Network. It seems like a safe assumption that the Model 3 will as well. It also seems like a safe assumption that the Model 3 will have good old-fashioned manual doors not the fancy self-closing ones like the Model X for cost reasons. It hit me the other day: how will the Tesla Network handle people who don t close the door or who close it but don t push hard enough for it to latch properly? Will they actually include self-closing hardware? Will the car use its good acceleration to slam the doors closed? Will it drive around with a partially latched door until it can find a human to close it all the way? This is a minor thing but the mind gets obsessed with weird topics. | 2017-04-25 14:35:57 | 24 | You dont stop paying until you lock the doors. Problem Fixed! | 2017-04-25 14:57:18 | 43 | Model 3 phone key issues | 2,428 |
Trading a Tesla into Tesla? | Okay so let s just say a certain someone is anxiously awaiting a Cybertruck and maybe can t be patient for up to 2 years (Tri motor reservation but I was a late reserver). So let s say I got a Model Y to hold me over. Anybody have any real world experience on loss of value if I trade that into Tesla in 2 years with say 25000 miles on it? Ran a kbb trade in value on a model 3 and it says it d be about $12 000 loss of value. But does Tesla pay pretty well when you trade a Tesla into them? | 2020-04-13 15:19:59 | 19 | Trading in is the best way to get the worst value. Sell privately. | 2020-04-13 15:26:14 | 85 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,427 |
Unnecessary slowdowns on highway with cruise autopilot engaged | When driving on highways with cruise autopilot active the car sometimes slows down 5-10 km h for a couple of seconds and then accelerates back to the set speed. It does this even when there s no car or obstacle in the way. Have anyone here noticed this? | 2016-07-24 09:04:48 | 5 | Does it show you a car in the autopilot viewer thing? It could be a number of things Do you have the facelift model S? If you dont the radar is more susceptible to getting a bit dirty to the point where it isn t always sure. Also is this something only happening recently? | 2016-07-24 09:10:39 | 3 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 21,730 |
Model 3 Roof Rack slots | So i ve had the roof rack crossbars for a little while and i m surprised at how few post there are about the slots. They have cleverly designed rubber inserts in them which is great for noise reduction and can be compressed down so you should be able to insert the accessories into the slot and slide them over. But HOLY COW this is a major pain in the ass. the rubber grabs on to whatever you trying to slide in there and makes it virtually impossible. i ve tried lubing it up but made no difference. the rubber even starts to bunch up behind the insert blocking you from sliding anything. How are other people dealing with this? it s such a problem that i m thinking about ditching the rack and getting a hitch. of course i could buy all new accessories that clamp to the outside of the cross bars but I really would rather figure out a better way to use the slot. With my old BMW i would leave the cross bars on and just quickly slide in my bike and snowboard racks when i needed them but the wind noise was terrible. the bmw also had rubber inserts that i cut into thirds and could pretty easily be taken out and put back in but the tesla rubber inserts look designed to never come out. | 2019-07-17 15:29:54 | 12 | Very interested in this we re looking forward to the Y I assume the racks will be similar and we put a bike on top of our current car a couple times a week so it s important to have something that works well. | 2019-07-17 16:22:39 | 2 | Hitch Bike Rack Review | 11,939 |
Timeline of future Tesla events | I d like to see a timeline of upcoming Tesla related events to the date or month if possible but if not then to the season or year. For example NHTSA report quarterly earnings reports estimated Model X release and Model E unveiling. Not to mention the battery Giga factory. Does such a thing exist and if not can we compile one here? | 2013-12-07 09:06:53 | 14 | There is this — maybe to serve as a template. http: images.thecarconnection.com lrg tesla-future-plan-timeline-shown-at-2013-annual-shareholder-meeting_100429515_l.jpg | 2013-12-07 09:44:32 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,195 |
Setup your Tesla to heat cool every morning (Android) | Set this up recently and thought I d share for anyone else interested in doing the same. I know there are easier ways to come at this like TeslaFi scheduling. I appreciate the data and platform but not the persistent battery drain that I experienced. Hope this helps others in the same position. **Prerequisites** [Automagic](https: play.google.com store apps details?id=ch.gridvision.ppam.androidautomagic) (Tasker would work as well though my approach used Automagic) [Tasker Plugin for Tesla ](https: play.google.com store apps details?id=com.crazydog.teslatasker) **Overview** * Trigger at set time every weekday * Check if we re connected to a charger - If yes continue * Check current inside temperature if below 64 use seat heater if above no seat heater (this let s me use the same flow for winter and summer - if we re cooling to get to target I don t want the seat heater to trigger) * Start climate control and set temperature to 70 F with or without seat heater depending on starting temp. [Screenshot of the flow](https: i.imgur.com lsY32EC.jpg) Not pictured here but I have another flow as a safety measure that runs 30 minutes later - if I m still connected to the charger and in the same location - it disables the climate control. This ensures on holidays or days where I m not driving at my typical time I m not running climate all day. | 2020-01-25 09:00:53 | 37 | How is this better than just using the cars built in scheduling? | 2020-01-25 11:07:57 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,070 |
Dallas Texas North Park Mall reservations. | Just drove into town from Oklahoma to be first in line. Apparently mall security isn t letting people line up. If they see you in line before 10AM they will ask you to leave = . **Edit** I spoke too soon! I talked to head of security and they told me I could form a line as early as 9:45! | 2016-03-31 01:33:23 | 8 | You will see a guy with a big beer belly with his teenage son (or maybe sons). They may be there before you. His name is Jay and he s really friendly. You ll also likely run into Kevin who s planning to be there early. And maybe Rick but he was threatening to go to the Ft. Worth store because the line will be shorter there. I m pretty sure that Theresa and Dan will be in line as well pretty early tomorrow. You won t however see me. Because I m leaving my house at 5:00 am tomorrow to go out to the site of a fracking explosion a few hours away. Sucks to be me as I m going to wind up being last in line among the people I hang out most often with Teslas. | 2016-03-31 03:36:50 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,799 |
With all the crazy lightning storms Austin s gotten in the last week I was wondering what the threat to my car is if it s charging and there is a surge or a bad flicker in the power? | I unplugged my HPWC just in case as the power keeps going out and then flickering hard coming on then going out again (in addition to tripping all of our breakers to be extra safe until the power is more stable). Does the car have internal protections against a surge? We ve gotten about 5-10 of rain in the last week alone depending on where you are about 25% of our yearly average. Crazy stuff. | 2019-05-08 17:29:29 | 41 | The hpwc had surge protection but unplugging it in the face of known per instability is still a good idea. I do the same thing I unplug the car if I see electric weather. | 2019-05-08 17:41:07 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,821 |
Australia and New Zealand RHD are ready for deliveries - just need cars now | Status of play for Australia and New Zealand . RHD press cars arrived a few weeks ago . Those cars are have now started to be used for test drives . NZ and a couple of hours ago Australia has opened for the Checkout process . NZ have had some hidden vins come and go . Cars are being shipped by containers from Oakland . The ship suspected of carrying the vehicles just departed Auckland and is on its way to Sydney but this is not certain . Deliveries should begin before the end of August for the first vehicles. | 2019-08-13 11:00:47 | 30 | Moistness cheers. | 2019-08-13 11:18:33 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,353 |
What is Your Lifetime Energy Consumption? | I had the car for about 1 1 2 months and my lifetime average sits at 314 wh mi. http: imgur.com r1dqAzy | 2017-01-21 15:40:58 | 10 | Either you live in a warm climate or you have a very soft right foot. My past 6 weeks has been closer to 380 wh mi living in the frozen tundra ^and ^sometimes ^driving ^like ^a ^jackass. | 2017-01-21 15:53:30 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,737 |
Remember--always read the manual before using any new feature of your car. Smart summon included | People seem to assume that just because smart summon can handle parking lots that it can handle other situations as well. People assume that a chaotic parking lot must somehow translate easily to a mundane and boring garage. These thoughts are wrong and dangerous. Neural networks are not human brains and a garage is not inherently easier than a parking lot for a computer to handle. Young humans start driving in a parking lot young AIs have all started on the highway. It is highly unlikely that the neural network powering smart summon has been trained on garage imagery. There is a huge difference between parking lot obstacles and garage obstacles. In addition any GPS map data regarding your garage is probably useless at best or harmful at worst--a neural network trained to path through a parking lot for example is probably making wild guesses at best when figuring out what your garage is from GPS data. Your personal garage on a satellite map could look like drivable space if it were in a parking lot. It is extremely easy to see this in practice. How many smart summon videos have run over curbs? Zero. How many smart summon videos have run across parking space concrete barriers--*despite the fact that the car sensor suite cannot see this at close range similar to ultrasonic blind spots*? Also zero. How many pedestrians have been hit? Zero. These are features that Tesla s teams have trained the neural network to recognize and react to. They are also the same features that the beta testers have been testing with and the same features that Tesla has collected data with during testing. Neither beta testers nor Tesla have been collecting data on garages for smart summon *because that is not a current included feature of smart summon*. And no parking lots do not have solid drywall mere inches from parking spaces. Even parking lots with walls near parking will have at a minimum concrete parking blocks opposing drivable space (along with accurate GPS and map data fed into the neural networks) which is why we also have zero smart summon incidents running into walls. For the love of humanity please read the manual and do not try to use smart summon beyond the capabilities and locations mentioned in the manual. Tesla s vision engineers are the same exact people who have created a near-flawless TACC system and Navigate on Autopilot. They know what they re doing and they worded the manual appropriately. Also it just looks silly to the general public when someone holds a dead man s switch for several seconds after your car steers toward your garage wall. | 2019-10-02 06:22:31 | 52 | Maybe folks are just going by the old Smart Summon graphic that was on the Autopilot page for years? You know the one that showed Smart Summon as pulling the car out of the *garage* and around the corner to the front of the house? That WAS the original advertisement for Smart Summon hard to blame people for trying it out in that scenario now that it is finally released. https: www.tesla.com autopilot | 2019-10-02 12:58:06 | 25 | Issues with Smart Summon | 16,378 |
Massive Vampire drain on Model 3 2020.28.5 | I m seeing a large idle drain on my 14XXX VIN Model 3 LR since I upgraded to 2020.28.5. I upgraded to that version quickly from a previous version so not sure if this is the first time I noticed the issue or if it happened on the previous update. Maybe 20+ miles day. I haven t monitored it consistently. This is only day 3 with this version but I lost maybe 7 miles over an hour long dinner. I did charge overnight last night but problem continues today. I know this used to be an off and on issue back in 2017ish but since I got my Model 3 I have not really seen many reports of this issue. I live in the south so it s pretty hot now not sure if it is trying to actively cool when asleep. Any troubleshooting ideas? Or just hope to get a new update pushed soon? Edit: The hard reboot seems to have fixed it. Thanks for the help! | 2020-08-01 22:35:49 | 20 | Sentry will do that to you if active now and not before. | 2020-08-01 23:09:19 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,383 |
There should be a directory of Tesla FUDsters. | Why shouldn t we have a directory of verified FUDsters. For example we can start with the authors of CNBC and WSJ? | 2018-07-23 22:45:40 | 47 | I don t think witch hunts are a good idea however noble the intentions behind them. | 2018-07-24 00:26:04 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,953 |
Tesla Model 3 battery replacement cost [discussion] | If I bought a Model 3 Long Range today how much capacity would likely be left after 10 years and 200 000 km (125k miles)? How much would it cost to then replace the entire battery? Would the battery cost come down significantly in the future as batteries get cheaper to produce? | 2018-05-16 22:17:22 | 15 | https: electrek.co 2018 04 14 tesla-battery-degradation-data While it is possible I don t think Tesla has any plans to sell battery battery replacements. They hardly even do it for the Model S or X. The degradation isn t something that you ll really need to worry about. | 2018-05-16 22:27:43 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,136 |
I m on vacation on Oahu HI and the number one high end car is by far... | The Tesla Model X. By a large margin. I saw a guy with a mustache in a nice new red Ferrari and I ve seen 4 Maseratis oddly enough. Aside from those I ve seen more Xs than BMWs Mercedes or Porsches. I ve seen two 3s four or five S and about 25 to 30 Xs. Just my observations. | 2019-03-15 02:34:03 | 7 | The Ferrari driven by the man with the mustache was it a 308 GTS and was his name Tom? | 2019-03-15 02:37:33 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,077 |
How bad is vampire drain? | On previous posts I ve seen people say they go on vacation with certain battery percent left and are scared of vampire drain... is it really that bad if I don t drive it for a week will it go flat if low ? | 2017-05-03 04:59:50 | 9 | 1 to 2 miles per day in good weather. Depends on various settings. For many years my Model S was in a garage with no cell service no wifi always connected off energy saver on. It had no access to a wall plug and I travel a lot for work. I d lose ~1 mile per day if that. When it goes into its deep sleep mode (after a few days) it loses very little power. Today my car lives in a garage with cell service wifi and always connected on (plus energy saver still on). I lose ~2 miles per day. I had energy saver off at one point and I believe it was ~3 mile loss per day. Its a non-issue since I could leave it plugged in anyways. I live in Southern California though. If you live in much colder climates the battery may have to heat itself to stay healthy. This will drain a higher amount of miles per day but I m not sure the exact number! Overall its really nothing to worry about unless you plan on leaving for a really really long time. | 2017-05-03 05:16:36 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,073 |
PSA: Michelin OEM tire warranty saved me 40% on new tires | I ve read about varying experiences with getting treadlife warranty honored on OEM tires and want to share my experience. I am at 3 32nds all the way around at 20k miles. The OEM tires have a treadlife rating of 45k miles. I had them rotated by Tesla at 7800 miles. I priced out a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires via Costco. Was going to be around $950 installed after tax. I live in Atlanta and these seemed a good choice for my preferences and our lack of real winter weather. I was ready to order them when I came across a post in a forum referencing the original treadlife warranty being honored by discount tire. So I figured why not try. Spoke with manager at a local discount tire who first offered a 25% off courtesy credit . That made the tires about the same price out the door as Costco. He then offered to call Michelin on my behalf and see if they could do more but he needed the car physically there so he could inspect it and be ready for any follow up questions. After about 20 minutes he came back and said they would do 40% off any new Michelin tires which makes my out the door price $660 with lifetime rotation and balance. I can add warranty for ANY damage with free replacement for another $120. Not sure if that s worth it or not...comments welcome on that! Solid deal and your mileage may vary (yes pun intended) but it won t hurt to ask. Also curious if anyone else has these tires if you ve noticed any efficiency or noise difference. I m willing to live with both and my mind is made up on the tire. Am just curious what others have experienced. Edit: I did end up with the warranty. Drove about 10 miles on them after pickup and it s night day difference from the MXM4s that it came with. They seemed quieter although I didn t get on the highway. Handling is like a different car. Not that it wasn t good before but it s easy to see why everyone raves about these tires. | 2019-10-16 23:57:37 | 137 | Ya thanks alot Americas tires.... looks like I ate the 40% cause they never replaced mine same situation. | 2019-10-17 00:06:48 | 21 | Model Y Wheel Options | 14,859 |
So what ever happened to the Model X configurator coming online before end of August? | I m so far from being able to afford a Tesla but damn Elon let me at least build my dream car online. | 2015-08-28 17:21:04 | 9 | He never said *which* August. | 2015-08-28 22:13:20 | 42 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,424 |
iOS App Testers Wanted | I have a model 3 reservation and as a project to keep me sane while waiting I have been working on a simple iOS Tesla app. With the Model 3 only having the one center screen my app is a replacement for the instrument cluster. It streams data from the Tesla API. The app will be free to use. I was wondering if anybody would like to help me test the app as I don t actually have a Tesla yet. I will be able to just send you a link to try it out. | 2017-07-31 17:25:53 | 6 | DM me. I like this idea.... | 2017-07-31 17:39:29 | 3 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 25,402 |
Happy Thanksgiving all. Grateful every year for the electric experience. Raining and snowing in Tahoe drive aware. | If you re heading up to Tahoe here s a good thread from last year right about the same time discussion driving in snowy conditions and just general things to look out for as you head up to Tahoe. I thought I d share it in case there s any safety gems you can pick up. Happy Thanksgiving and take care all. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads p85d-going-to-lake-tahoe.137756 | 2019-11-28 16:26:50 | 53 | GF1 employee that lives on Mount Rose outside of Tahoe. Roads are still icy where I m at but not too bad incline village is probably a lot worse though. | 2019-11-28 20:41:30 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,491 |
Speculation on the torque and HP of the Model X | I love torque. Torque is an important selling point of electric cars and a major talking point among enthusiasts. So when I did some googling to find the torquiest of the torquey cars I was surprised to find the Fisker Karma sitting at the top of the list right *above* a Bugati Vayron variant. From Wikipedia: > Performance: The Karma s **two** 201 brake horsepower (204 PS) motors produce 1 300 newton metres (960 lbf·ft) of torque.[33][34] The Karma features a 125 mph (201 km h) top speed and is capable of reaching 60 mph (97 km h) from a standstill in 6.3 seconds.[35] That is 960 lb-ft of torque. The model S Performance only has 443. So when I asked myself why Fisker is so high the most obvious answer was that the Fisker has 2 motors each one having slightly more torque than the Model S motor. This reminded me of the Model X description from Tesla s website: > Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive: Model X comes standard with Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive. The second motor enables more than all-weather all-road capabilities: it increases torque and traction in everyday conditions. Model X Performance accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in less than 5 seconds outperforming the fastest SUVs and many sports cars. So If two motors does for the X what it does for the Fisker the X will have an astonishing amount of torque. An amount that would place it right at the top of [this list](http: www.autosnout.com Car-Torque-List.php). The Model X description mentions more torque sure. But I m not sure many people realize just how much it might have. This is where my amateur speculation ends but I would really like to hear some other opinions on this. Especially from people who know more about motor specifications and Model X than I do. Oh and by the way whatever you do do not look at the very bottom of that list. | 2014-08-31 19:52:32 | 18 | I too love torque... The interesting thing about the AC induction motor is the instant torque and no real torque curve (it is basically flat and then drops off at an angle). The single gear and lack of transmission means that there is very little drive train power loss. The reduction ratio of 9.71 is a multiplier to torque at the rear wheels. This is an interesting thread on torque.. http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showthread.php 33413-Tesla-LIED-to-us!-(I-maxed-out-a-dyno-in-my-car) The model S is traction limited meaning that the traction control will reduce the amount of torque delivered to the rear wheels. This is done by reducing the power put out by the motor and by applying the breaks to wheels individually. Strapping the model S down to a Dyno will allow more power to be transferred than is possible on pavement. The maximum torque put out to the rear wheels on a P85 is 4300 lb ft of torque. This is way beyond the ability of the rear wheels to maintain traction. The standard motor on a model S 85 puts out 325 lb ft The performance motor on a model S P85 puts out 443 lb ft The X will reportedly be only AWD and be offered with either two performance or two standard motors. I m not sure how they will do this because there is some limitation either in the inverter or battery that limits the amount of power available (that is why an S60 only has 317 lb ft of torque). I m going to assume that they solved that problem and the performance model will be able to feed two performance motors. The performance model will put out 886 lb ft of torque at the cranks and 8600 lb ft at the wheels. But this is well beyond the grip of the wheels. There is some discussion that the torque numbers on the Dyno are wrong because the Dyno tries to calculate what the power is at the crank. All I really know is that when you do a gear reduction it multiplies torque. | 2014-08-31 21:26:24 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,649 |
Model X Delivery Nightmare | Hello fellow Redditors I finally convinced my best friend to pull trigger on Model X. We went to test drive in Buena Park store and pull trigger on inventory showroom car with price adjustment. ($100 300 - $5 380 adjustment + $1 200 destination fee + tax) on the same day. The car only had 50 miles and they told us it d take approx. 2 – 3 weeks to prep the car. We decided to take the delivery at the Costa Mesa store. We went the Costa Mesa store to take the delivery today (9 22) – this is where everything goes wrong. The car now shows 950 miles on odometer..WTF? After spending a few hours at the store we found out they mistakenly put my friend s car into loaner fleet the day after he signed the document and paid deposit…BIG WTF? Isn t this breach of contract?? Initially they apologized and advised they couldn t do anything. After speaking with a manager the best they can offer is a 2-year maintenance service package for free… The only reason he bought the inventory car was because it only had 50 miles…taking a car with 950 miles feels like he s buying a used car. The car being used as a loaner car didn t help either…. We asked them to adjust the price – nope We asked them to throw in free Extended Warranty (4 yrs) – nope We ll order a brand-new car (custom) and asked for a loaner car while we wait – nope He sold his current car last night and needs a car right away…. What do you think is the best option route? Do you think asking for extended warranty was fair on my side? I d like to hear your thoughts…. | 2018-09-23 03:54:34 | 26 | Technically still new because it was never registered. But contract states 50 miles so it s a breach. In theory you should be able to get your deposit back. I d go ahead and ask r legaladvice | 2018-09-23 04:04:52 | 62 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 12,771 |
[META] Our German trolls lost another... u citebaeidkcuf suspended by admins. | Yet again the same person (or group) got caught trying to post here on an alt. This time u citebaeidkcuf. Several of us noticed it almost immediately (thank you to those that mod mail d us!) and user was immediately reported to admins. Now user is suspended by admins for ban avoidance. This makes it at least 4 caught and suspended in a month! Dear German user group dumb-fuck(s): at least use a VPN so admins can t catch you! It s getting too easy to pick out your terrible copy-paste arguments and comparisons to german automakers. It s kind of getting sad. I mean it is fun to call you out... but at least make it challenging! New german troll accounts being made in 3...2...1... ) | 2018-02-28 23:44:03 | 61 | Oh man. Sorry. We have many idiots over here (I m German as well). I don t get why so many of us STILL think so highly of german carmakers since they literally screwed us all over with their shitty diesel motors. Please don t think we re all that way! ) | 2018-03-01 09:39:16 | 15 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 25,076 |
Fun fact: if your dog runs behind your car while it s being summoned your Tesla will close the garage door on itself. | My car was halfway out the garage when my dog ran behind it. It stopped like it should but then it tried to guillotine itself. Luckily the garage door sensed it closed on something and went back up with no damage. Still not sure why the garage door s eye sensors didn t prevent it from initiating a close in the first place. Oh well! 🤷♂️ | 2018-11-29 00:21:19 | 51 | Sensors are placed too low to see the car presumably | 2018-11-29 00:24:20 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,059 |
My thoughts after watching Rich Rebuilds: Tesla really need to reformulate their policy towards 3rd party repairs and salvage - for the sake of their own long-term financial health. | Warning: What follows is a wall of text that veers into rant territory at times but I am genuinely interested in starting a serious discussion on this topic. After the recent profile on him I finally got around to watching a ton of the Rich Rebuilds videos and I have to say that man has got the right idea. I honestly thing that Tesla is not grasping how big of a mistake they are making not listening to his line of reasoning in large part because of what a new company they are. Now let me start this off by saying I am as big of a supporter of Tesla and Musks overall future vision as you are liable to find. I agree with him on space colonization the neccesity of becoming a multi-planet species of preserving the environment and transitioning to a zero-carbon economy. I want Tesla to succeed very very badly. But I think like we have seen with the whole Model 3 ramp-up fiasco that the Silicon Valley mindset isn t always applicable to the auto industry and I belive the same applies to Tesla s Apple-esque policies towards 3rd party repairs and salvaging of parts from wrecked vehicles. In the long term they must reverse course or they will create a situation that will hurt them financially very very badly. Fixing refurbishing and modifying electric cars is on paper and now as we are increasingly seeing in practice actually just as easy(if not easier) than doing so to ICE cars. There is no practical reason for excluding salvaged wrecks from the OTA updates or the Supercharger network provided you have solid diagnostic tools available to verify that all the parts of the powertrain are working correctly and safely. I understand why Tesla wasnt to retain control over the repair of their designs especially now in the early days where a shoddy job done can easily result in a tsunami of negative headlines but with the flood of Model 3s they are unleashing on the roads these days they really need to think this thing through fully. **Not allowing salvaged parts is very much not green** If Tesla is serious about preserving their environmentalism credibility they cannot afford hit pieces showing broken down or totalled Teslas with lots of usable parts being thrown into crushers or rusting away in people s back yards because they can t be recycled effectively. This is both a real environmentalism argument as well as a PR argument. The FUD is not going away and one of the best ways those hostile to Tesla can dent sales going forward after they become cash flow positive is to level accusation of hypocrisy when it comes to saving the planet. **A lively aftermarket in salvaged parts and repair service benefits Tesla when it comes to the sale of new cars** Although I don t think competitors will come out with Tesla Killers in the next couple of years sooner or later there will be competing models on the market that are quite good. I predict this will be the scenario around say 2023-5. That may seem like a long way away but it really isn t its just a few short years. The spare parts shortage and long delays for servicing MUST be resolved by then because that is when we start to see huge numbers of Model 3s out of warranty and if it is problematic to fix them and retain access to OTA updates and Superchargers the resale value will drop like a stone...and that can totally flip the signifier when people weigh purchasing a new Tesla vs a model from a competing manufacturer. This needs to be nipped in the bud right now and if Tesla can create a narrative where a used out of warranty Tesla is reliable cheap to fix and easy to work on yourself or by your local mechanic they´ll be swimming because everybody will know that they can buy a new Tesla and have peace of mind that it will retain it s value well. **If done right opening up their ecosystem can cut costs protect against economic downswings and create new revenue streams** If Tesla intends to service the powertrains and electronics on their cars all by themselves and only allow approved body shops to work on cosmetic damage they are setting themselves up for needing to have a huge amount of employees on their payroll and massive amounts of real estate etc. I don t think they have really thought through how gigantic that kind of operation is going to be in terms of payroll benefits taxes etc never mind that it will mean that in an economic downturn where business slows down they will be on the hook for a lot of assets that aren t producing revenue. It is much more sensible to arm 3rd parties to do this work and charge them for the privilege through some kind of certification program open to mechanics and enthusiasts alike along with some kind of program where you can bring salvaged parts into service centers to get them verified as being in proper working condition along with refurbished whole cars for final validation that they are well enough put together to re-join the OTA and supercharger programs. This way you off-load a lot of the cost and liabilities on 3rd party mechanics while money comes in on the final validation service plus some markup on parts. You may make less money off this in good times than forcing people to deal with you and only you but you insulate yourself from downswings in business during recessions leading to layoffs etc. Tesla intends to grow a lot - they will have their hands full servicing in-warranty vehicles for years to come. Adding the out of warranty repair business to their workload is liable to lead to extreme overload of their workforce in the mid to long-term. Plus people want choices when it comes to who works on their cars. I have a couple of mechanics who are my guys that I trust to work on my cars and be up-front and honest with me about costs time etc. I am looking forward to eventually owning a Model 3 when the time is right(current European PHEV owner) but I am NOT looking forward to having only one option when it comes to service - I want to be able to pick and choose. Elon saying trust us we´ll have awesome service simply isn t good enough. I think it is very important that the fanbase owners and small stockholders start to apply pressure to Tesla to reformulate their approach to this issue right now before they get too big to the point where they no longer feel like they need to listen to their longtime supporters. If you agree with my analysis of this issue and own a Tesla or better yet shares please let the company know. If you don t agree with me feel free to change my mind. ) EDIT: TL DR kindly provided by u TheTimeIsChow. TL DR Big Tesla fan wants them to succeed just wants to vent Found R.R. changed his her perspective regarding salvaging Teslas Believes part of going green essentially involves recycling the vehicles Believes more options for repair rebuild will help boost sales of new vehicles through post warranty repair options Believes opening up to 3rd party repairs will help boost rev stream Ends post suggesting that owners investors who agree with his her post should reach out to Tesla. Those who don t should offer a counter argument to change his her mind. | 2018-08-07 00:17:13 | 148 | And a few notes. Tesla already offers some certification services. Superchargers belong to Tesla and they can t (and shouldn t) be forced to allow random uncertified cars to use them. Messing with big batteries can mean insta-death so the average Joe should have some kind of relevant certification before buying them. Some people will disagree with this but I really don t want to see stupid people dying and the media blaming EVs. If Tesla starts pushing updates to all cars even salvaged ones without the owners having to recertify them that can be really dangerous because if there are issues with some of the computers the update could cause some vital systems to crash and turn the car into an uncontrollable death machine. | 2018-08-07 00:54:19 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,507 |
Running the heater | I drove my model 3 yesterday during the big snowstorm in the NE idling along at 20mph or so. The car s power consumption skyrocketed around 900+ kwh mi. I got very concerned so I turned off the heat which was set to 71 and immediately the power consumption dropped to regular levels. Is this to be expected? I played around with it some more today and if I keep the temperature to 67 then I can have some air moving in the car but the second I pass the 68-70 mark BOOM goes the dynamite. Anyone else seen this? | 2018-11-16 23:24:42 | 10 | I hope Model 3 gets Range Mode soon like S X. Really need an option that modifies the climate logic to like prioritize energy over comfort rely more on waste heat and don t rush to hit the setpoint temp . | 2018-11-16 23:46:25 | 23 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 16,661 |
Did the M3 go down in price in Canada? | I read that the price on the Model 3 was reduced in the US recently and one article mentioned this was true in Canada as well. Checking the web site I see the current price for the SR+ is 52 990 but I seem to recall that was the price in the past? **UPDATE:** went to the web page and for fun I clicked Used. Last week there was nothing but today there s a nice list. Just picked up one with 19km on it. Hello fellow club members! | 2020-06-16 15:21:13 | 8 | I put a deposit down one week before the price change. The price dropped $3000 in Canada. In BC that made the cost of the SR+ be below the luxury tax threshold which actually has saved me about $5000 total. | 2020-06-16 22:55:47 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,084 |
Auto lane change | Do any of you use autolane change during commute hours? How well does it work? I tried it for the first time (with traffic around) yesterday with 2 cars in the fast lane passing me. I turned it on right as the first car passed and the second was in my blind spot. I was going about 65mph. Car immediately starting moving over which freaked me out and I wrenched control from autopilot. Did not want to experiment at that speed to see if it will have stopped changing by itself. I thought it was supposed to only change lanes when it will not run into any cars? I was under the impression that you could flick the turn signal and as soon as the car detected that it was safe it will change lanes for you | 2018-07-17 19:04:39 | 6 | You are responsible for checking your blind spot because Autopilot still does not have reliable blind spot detection particularly with fast-approaching cars. Every car on the market with functioning blind spot detection does it with rear corner radars but Tesla was too cheap to add these and or too optimistic about what they would be able to do with cameras. Blind spot detection is likely to improve in the near future as they start using the side cameras more heavily. As of right now it appears to mostly use the ultrasonics which are very slow-acting unreliable. They can t detect fast-approaching cars at all. And they don t work well in rain or snow. | 2018-07-17 19:11:54 | 18 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,382 |
2020.20.5 Release Notes – GPS Update Fallout Shelter and more! | Another big rollout of 2020.20.5 is underway for all models. Here are the release notes for this software update! You can view the smart release notes (with which countries and hardware requirements) [here](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.20.5). **GPS Update** We have updated your car s GPS to improve its stability and tracking. Please note that with this update the GPS in your car will temporarily recalibrate once after the update which might cause a few minutes delay in where updating your car s position is displayed on the map. **Fallout Shelter** Fallout Shelter puts you in control of a state-of-the-art underground Vault from Vault-Tec. Build the perfect Vault keep your Dwellers happy and protect them from the dangers of the Wasteland. To play Fallout Shelter tap Entertainment from the Application Launcher then Arcade > Fallout Shelter. **Theater Mode Improvements** With this release you can now play pause and skip video playback with your steering wheel controls while using Theater Mode. As usual Theater Mode is only available while your vehicle is in PARK. **TRAX Improvements** We have added a piano roll view that allows you to edit and fine tune notes in a track. You can now tap in view to create a note move or resize it by dragging the tail end of a note and delete it with a long press. To play a note sound simply hold and move the notes. In addition when you tap the record button a metronome beat will play to make it easier for you to record at the desired time. *This release contains minor improvements and bug fixes.* Source: [Teslascope](https: teslascope.com teslapedia software 2020.20.5) | 2020-06-07 00:44:16 | 114 | Will this GPS update be the solution to phantom braking due to the vehicle thinking it s on a side access road or overpass? Also looks like it s HW3 only on Teslascope... | 2020-06-07 01:44:27 | 44 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 571 |
Always have to unlock phone to play music | I have a OnePlus 7pro connected to my 2018 Model 3 and can t figure out how to fix a nagging issue. If I play music off my phone via bluetooth everything works fine but once I leave and return back to the car I need to unlock the phone and press play on the phone for the music to resume. I d like it if the music from my phone would just resume automatically when I enter the car. Any ideas on how to get this working? | 2019-12-29 05:03:28 | 10 | You can create an automation for this using an app called Tasker. | 2019-12-29 05:18:46 | 6 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 1,435 |
My Model S 75D Review. My surprising findings and complaints after waiting 7 years to own one. | Lots of folks seem to have been picking up 75s and 75Ds the last week or two. Must be from the pricing change that Tesla made about a month ago. Been seeing a lot of reviews from new 75D owners and wanted to share my specific surprising findings and disappointments after a few hundred miles. I ve been wanting a Tesla vehicle ever since I heard of the roadster (back in 2010 I think). Was waiting for a Model 3 but I just couldn t stand waiting any more and the base model change to a 75kWh pack with included power lift gate enticed me. I found an inventory car with the somewhat rare color combo I liked and finally gave in. It s a silly human thing to do putting any real thought into naming a car. It s still a fun little thing to do so I named my car “Thunder Road” after the [spaceship](http: brandedinthe80s.com wp-content uploads 2016 07 explorers2.jpg) in the movie “[Explorers](http: www.clearplay.com MovieBattle images tt0089114-1.jpg)”. It s from a Bruce Springsteen song. Here are the specs for “Thunder Road”: - Model S 75D with Deep Blue Metallic paint - 19” Standard Slipstream wheels - Glass roof - Premium Package upgrade (premium next-gen seats) - White interior with Dark Ash wood decor - Center console - Black alcantara headliner - Enhanced Autopilot For reference here are the cars I ve had or driven recently that I m comparing my new Model S to: Rented: - Tesla Model S P85D with AP1 (rented twice on Turo) - Tesla Model S 60 with AP1 (rented once on Turo) Owned: - 2010 Ford Mustang V6 Convertible (auto most recent) - 2014 BMW i3 - 2013 BMW 335i (auto) - 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 (manual) - 2007 Mazda RX8 (manual) **COMPLAINTS:** **No speed-sensitive volume adjustment.** Most annoying part of the car. Every car that I ve had the last decade has had this feature. It s a *software feature* and it astonishes me that something so simple yet so annoying to be without is missing from an otherwise perfectly relaxing driving experience. The radio volume should automatically adjust to your speed getting louder as you get faster and quieter as you come to a stop. It s very annoying adjusting the volume *every time* I slow down or come to a stoplight and start going again. This should be a simple software update. Hell I could gather the volume change data and provide the ground work for the algorithm myself. I just might do that to grab Elon s attention. **Volume of navigation instructions are inaudible over music.** This is something I noticed the few times I rented Teslas on Turo and I always assumed it was some setting somewhere I wasn t seeing. Now that I have my own Model S I ve turned the navigation instruction volume all the way to 11 and I still can t hear it over the music while I m driving. It dips the volume of the music but not enough. I end up missing the instruction. I wish they could also set it to pause the playback each time there s an instruction like Apple Maps does when using an iPhone. EDIT: I m starting to think that I just listen to music and podcasts louder than most people. Though the way music and podcasts are mastered makes this completely subjective I usually am rocking out with the volume up around 9 or 10 with music. My beef with the way the stereo s mixing system is that when I m playing music loudly it should know to lower the media playback volume more than normal to compensate. I almost never have music down to a 3 or 4 unless I m at a stoplight AND I m not rocking out . I agree when I m listening to music or podcasts at a lower level then the volume of the navigation instructions are fine. When I m on the freeway going 80mph listening to a podcast at about a 7 or an 8 even with the Nav volume set to 11 I m often fighting to hear the nav instructions over the podcast dialogue. **Turning Radius** Man I really didn t realize how bad the turning radius is. I find myself having to do 3-point turns in parking lots all the time now. Maybe I m just not used to it yet having come from the SUPER nimble BMW i3. Would a 4-wheel steering upgrade on future Model Ss help in this regard? **Ambient lights too bright.** The “soft LED ambient interior lights” are not really so soft. If find them to be too bright at night and I wish there was a way to dim the ambient lighting separately from dimming the touchscreen and binnacle. It looks really cool it s just too bright. **The blind spots are a bit tricky.** The rearview mirror is rather useless at seeing out the back as many have said before. I agree with them. I haven t quite been able to tune my side mirrors correctly yet to peer into my blind spots AND provide a view of the approaching cars in the lanes on either side of me. I ve resorted to sticking those big bubble mirrors onto the tips of my side mirrors so we ll see how that goes. The “blindspot monitoring” is rather useless unfortunately. It s not very immediate or reliable. **The glass roof is actually too dark for my tastes.** This is really just a preference for me but I wish the tinting on the all-glass roof wasn t so dark. You can barely even tell it s see-through at all. Having come from enjoying a convertible I LIKE being bathed in sunlight while I drive around. I don t expect Tesla to do anything about this and I agree with their decision to make it dark considering how many people worry about the glass roof being too hot in the sun. See below for my thoughts on that. **Volume of music comes back after starting car.** Whatever volume the music was set to when I parked the car before I opened the door will come roaring back when I put the car into “gear” the next time I drive. Many cars I ve had reset the radio volume to the same low level every time I start the car. **Bassy ride.** There s a surprising amount of low-frequency rumble heard as I drive this around. I m imagining the large flat sections of the battery pack in the floor resonating creating low-frequency pressure waves. I m sure there s a cause some engineer could explain. After having the car for a few weeks I m already accustomed to it and don t notice it as much but still wish it wasn t there. **The frunk is really nice to have but it s surely not something I d want to access very often.** I m just not a fan of pressing on the hood at all even though it s the Tesla recommended method. The frunk IS perfect for my emergency road supplies and my aftermarket subwoofer amplifier. Stuff I like to carry around and I don t use that often if ever. I ve stuck all that in the frunk out of the way leaving the trunk wide open (for things like a subwoofer). One last consideration for those thinking of mounting an amplifier in there is that it s not air conditioned. If you were to instead mount your amps in the trunk your amps would be cooled in the interior like you d be. **The Traffic Aware Cruise Control currently (17.17.17) is not very smooth.** Elon himself has already described the current version of the Autopilot driving experience as “unpleasant” and I think he s right. More specifically when it comes to the TACC for me there s so many times when I m cruising on the freeway with nobody immediately in front of me and I can feel the car slightly lifting off and back on the throttle. It seems like the radar is picking up little bits of cars or objects far off in adjacent lanes and constantly momentarily reacting to them and starting to slow down only to realize they re false positives and continue back at the set cruise speed. The acceleration and “braking” is also a bit jerky as others have noted. I m comparing all of this to how well my BMW i3 s TACC worked which was better in some circumstances. One of them was during interchange ramps. The i3 would handle TACC really well on sharp freeway interchanges while the Model S lost track of the car in front of me since it was so far around the curve that it tried to launch me forward into the wall. It seemed like the i3 had it s TACC algorithm programmed so that the more the steering wheel is turned in a curve the car would proportionately slow down. However feelings about this and auto-steer are greatly affected by the knowledge and confidence that a software update could fix these issues at any time. It doesn t worry me because I know that it s only a matter of time until the autopilot team really nails the software perfectly. I m patiently waiting for the autopilot update in June July that s considered “smooth as silk”. **SURPRISING FINDINGS:** **The mystique of “Tesla” has faded for me within a week of ownership.** I m quite surprised by this. The excitement of finally having a Tesla vehicle after wanting one for over 7 years is already gone and is instead replaced by the simple enjoyment of the best car I ve ever driven. The hype and aura has gotten out of the way and the experience is just purely the enjoyment of a great vehicle. **Build quality and material quality have definitely improved.** As people have said the build quality and materials quality has always been an issue with Tesla. I ve driven an early P85D and a 60 from the same year and I ve noticed the overall quality has improved since then. Here are some ways: - During my delivery inspection checklist I walked around and inspected every inch of the car outside and in. Everything appears much better put together. Panel gaps are smaller and more even. While installing my dash cams I can feel how tightly the interior pieces are fit together. Everything looks clean and well made. While I m not comparing this to other high end automakers I m personally plenty satisfied after having driven the older Model Ss. - The interior is quieter. One of the first things I noticed when I rented the P85D for the first time was the road noise the brake noise and the motor noise. Especially having come from my BMW i3. The new car is vastly better for all those noises. The motor whine is still heard during heavy acceleration but it does not bother me. The road noise is much improved and I can t really hear the brakes like I did in that P85D. - The seats are better. Probably when they switched over to the next gen seats. More squishy soft and better bolstering. The white seats are much softer and more leather-like than I was expecting. I was expecting them to have a plastic-y feeling (since they re polyurethane). - The backup camera has improved. In the previous cars I thought the quality of the backup camera was just okay. My salesman said they upgraded to a 1080p backup camera at some point and its definitely noticed. Quite noticeable since its blown up and displayed on that giant touchscreen. - The new center console is better. The P85D I rented a few times had an older center console added to it and the doors and hinges in the new one just feel like they work better. - I ve only a few hundred miles on my car at this point but so far no creaks or rattles. I m sure there s some coming though. **The HVAC system is the best I ve ever had.** This is the first HVAC system in a car that I ve ever had where you really just set your temperature and forget about it. Set it to 72º it warms the car on a 65º day and cools the car with AC on an 85º day. I have yet to need to fiddle with the settings for fan speed temp or circulation. The “auto” setting just works works quickly and works nearly silently. Also I think the HEPA filtration system is really making for a delightful breathing experience on the freeways stuck in traffic around stinky diesels. **The coil spring suspension is actually really great.** I ve only ever driven Teslas with the air suspension and I was expecting the coil springs to be kind of shitty in comparison. So far this has been one of the smoothest riding cars I ve ever had. It just eats up bumps so much better than all of the other cars I ve had. There s a few specific bumps I drive over every day and normally I have to be gentle when going over them especially with some of the sportier cars I ve had. The S just encourages me to plow over them without even slowing down. It s fantastic. **I love the D.** I really wanted the D as this would be my first all-wheel drive car and I m glad I got it. There s specific street surfaces around town where past cars would struggle for traction when going over around or accelerating out of them. They d cut power to the wheels and I d be sad. Between the the dual motor setup the great suspension and the 19” wheels this car just grips and rolls right over that shit no problem. Gives supreme confidence in evasive maneuvers and sudden traffic-entering situations. **Acceleration.** The sweet spot for acceleration in the 75D is between 15mph and 60mph. It doesn t have that “snap” off the line like you get in the Insane and Ludicrous cars but once you get rolling for a second the 75D really pushes you back into the seat. I ve always said I like driving “spiritedly” from stoplights and around corners and electric vehicles allow me to do that without feeling like such a duchebag making all sorts of roaring engine noises and tire chirping. I can get the g-force feelings I like without looking like such a tool (or so I think!). **Headlights are great.** Despite the Model S not getting top marks for the headlights when having it s crash safety rated I find the LED headlights to be great. Nice and crisp and bright with a wide spread of light. Very easy to see my surroundings. I haven t used the auto high-beams yet. **The glass roof is not hot.** It needs to be said again. The glass roof is FINE in the sunlight. The tinting and IR UV ray blocking works fantastically and the air conditioning system does really well at keeping the interior cool. The difference can easily be felt by sitting inside one and moving your hand in and out of the sunlight in and out from underneath the glass roof. **Summon is pretty good.** I was pleasantly surprised how well summon works. Using the key fob and disabling the “hold button down during summon” it s fairly fast and easy to initiate summon and it works fairly well when moving over slight bumps in the ground. It gets a little more shy when I try to initiate summon with the Remote S app however. **Traffic on the map.** Previously when I d get into my car one of the first things I d do is pull out my phone and open Google maps to check the traffic along the route I d planned on taking. Now I get in the Model S and take a peek at the touchscreen. It s all there for me without having to do anything! **The stock stereo is acceptable.** I m an audiophile and I wasn t expecting good things from the standard stock stereo but I found it neither good nor bad. The only thing it really *needed* for me was a real subwoofer. The stereo was missing the “presence” that a little bit of 20hz-100hz would bring. Once I added an aftermarket sub to the system it sounds a lot more full and punchy without it needing to even be “loud” bass. | 2017-05-23 23:42:13 | 111 | > Man I really didn t realize how bad the turning radius is. I find myself having to do 3-point turns in parking lots all the time now Don t forget that it s roughly the size of a small aircraft carrier. That s not helping matters. | 2017-05-23 23:53:41 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,281 |
If I buy a “Raven” Model S or Model X now I m looking for technical indicators that it is the Raven build | If I buy a new Model S or Model X now how can I tell that it is the “Raven” build? Does it have a unique VIN component to indicate the Raven configuration? I know the Raven has the new adaptive suspension new front motor borrowed from the Model 3 new front motor mount significantly longer range latest FSD computer. I ll accept all of the above as a given but looking for indicators such as part numbers mechanical telltales VIN patterns software etc. Edit: are all new S and X coming out of the factory now just Raven builds or is Tesla still mixing in the pre-Raven S X? | 2019-08-15 19:45:15 | 25 | Look for a rev E battery pack and different software menus under suspension. [https: i.imgur.com g0kL0G2.jpg] | 2019-08-15 20:49:13 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,439 |
Unpopular Opinion: FSD will never get over $10k. | Please let me preface this by explaining that I 100% love Tesla and plan on getting one as my next car. Now onto the unpopular opinion of this sub. My entire opinion of this situation lies in the simple fact that 1) something is only worth what people are willing to pay. And 2) when the Model 3 was first released basic AP was not included with the car. There were so many people that bought the Model 3 without getting EAP which was only an additional ~$50 a month on their loan. Currently I d be willing to say 90% of current AP2 hardware owners do no have the FSD package purchased with the car when it is only an additional ~$100 a month in a loan. Although the package doesn t include really any FSD features that price guarantees they will receive them as they roll out and they won t have to pay more later. Another issue with this is that FSD won t transfer to another car therefore if your car gets totaled or you sell it you can kiss the money goodbye. When Elon states that FSD will be worth significantly more it s ridiculous given the reasons above people will not be willing to fork over the equivalent of some people s life savings. The basic argument for not doing so will be “basic AP is already a significant help” and “I can drive on my own in an already really cool car”. He also sounds ridiculous in stating that Tesla s will appreciate to basically the price of a Bentley. How many Bentley s do you see driving on the road? Oh that s right not many! I wonder why that is... also think of how many P100Ds you see driving around? Also not many. The simple fact is if the majorly of people can t afford FSD because it s priced as an extreme luxury item then that s all it will ever be. No one will be willing to spend that much money on just a really cool feature when it s not a requirement to own the car. Well that s my unpopular opinion of the day (or so it seems to be according to this sub). I really made this post to spark a conversation of what people are willing to pay for FSD and engage in good discussions. So please keep things civil with each other in the comments. What is a price you d be willing to pay? I personally would max out at $10k. Wouldn t pay more. Absolutely would pay less. | 2019-07-26 18:35:49 | 31 | Here s how I see it playing out. Teslas angle is that they don t want us to buy a car+FSD for $50k then flip it to Uber for $200k and miss out on that sweet appreciation. (or Uber buying direct). What I see happening is three different software licences for FSD: Private Commercial Mixed. Private is how things are now. The car is not on the Tesla Network. Commercial: The will be a licence fee to join the Tesla Network. Say $100k plus 10¢ per mile. Mixed: You put your private vehicle on the network while at work. No licence fee to join but Tesla gets 15¢ per mile. So the price for the cars + FSD won t go beyond the price that people can relatively afford for personal use while Tesla still gets their cut of the appreciation when it s put into commercial use. | 2019-07-26 19:33:48 | 23 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 21,736 |
Model 3 Dual Motor in Canada | Does anyone in Canada have the option to configure a dual motor Model 3 yet? | 2018-06-11 17:09:14 | 12 | no | 2018-06-11 17:20:42 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,718 |
PSA for those languishing in line — it can be ridiculously easy to extend the lease on your current vehicle... | The lease on my Acura is up at the end of February and I was sweating what I was going to do until my 3 gets here. I called up Acura and it turns out that they will verbally extend my lease up to 1 year at my current payment without even having to sign anything and I can cancel my lease without penalty at any time during that 12 months. | 2018-01-25 23:57:21 | 52 | Note that paying monthly payments reflecting the depreciation curve of the first 36 months is rarely financially advantageous for lesser which is often why they love it when you want to keep making your current payments to stay in your lease.... If it s for a few months it probably doesn t matter but longer than that it s worth thinking through whether or not this is the financially optimal thing to do. | 2018-01-26 00:04:36 | 32 | Tesla Lease Experience Considerations | 14,749 |
Large issue I had while test driving. | I d like to bring attention to how my test drive went in the DC area. I m not sure if this is allowed here but if so great. & #x200B Before I start I d like to mention that I scheduled this test drive so my father could understand the car more and hopefully get into the hype himself. & #x200B My family and I went in for a Test Drive with the Model 3 on Saturday morning January 19th at 10 AM. We walked in and sat in a lobby with another family also appointed at 10 AM. They came before us so they were scheduled and ready to go with their representative. After they left we were shortly appointed afterwards. All seemed well and my father began his part of the test drive through Washington DC. During the drive towards the off ramp I noticed our representative poking around the screen in an unsure manner. He went into different sections pulling up the music navigation then lastly the settings. He suddenly stopped and told us to try out autopilot. The instructor told my father to press down on the left stick twice to engage autopilot on the off ramp. Now I immediately found this to be strange because as you know it is the right stick. Being the first time in the Model 3 I did not question. I figured the representative would know best. After my father had done this he was told to let go of the wheel. By doing this we were sent directly into another lane on the off ramp going around 35 MPH. The left turn signal was on and we just continued to go straight through a turn. I quickly shouted out to grab the wheel and told him that autopilot was indeed not on. My father was awfully frightened by this and decided to drive manually through the rest of the test drive. Around 8 minutes later my father asked why the navigation was so god awful. I took a glance and realized it was south oriented and very zoomed out. He requested our representative to see if he can make it better to which our representative tried his best but did not know how. By the end of this trip our representative then told us that he was an Energy Advisor. That this was one of his first times in the Teslas. And that he is still learning just like us. & #x200B I want this to be brought to attention because I certainly believe that to give test drives especially on a vehicle like this you MUST know the vehicle. Our representative worked in the Energy field with Tesla. He did not know the vehicle as well as the surrounding area. & #x200B I also want to note in no way was this man a bad person nor was he intentionally trying to harm us. I simply believe he was just allocated to the wrong job at this time and should not be the one teaching about the vehicle. After reading up on him he seems to be very good at his craft in ENERGY. & #x200B [Here](https: i.gyazo.com 826a851d5ed28130283927e3ccfecf57.png) is the email I was sent shortly after we finished our drive. This displays his field and name. I have covered his name as I do not wish to bash this man. This post is to simply bring awareness as to why it is very important to assign people to the correct job. It is also being posted to warn others about maybe going through the same. Ask for their field ask if they fully understand the vehicle before test driving. & #x200B **TLDR:** Went in for a test drive. Our driving representative worked as an Energy Advisor. We were given misinformation that could of cost the lives of everyone in the Vehicle as well as those surrounding it. We were very close to slamming a guard rail along with a car nearby. I believe one must know every inch of the vehicle to teach us how to drive them. | 2019-01-20 18:57:10 | 65 | This is unsettling because like it would be one thing if everyone wasn t an expert but they don t even give people a run through the basics? With the layoffs there might have to be more double duty too. | 2019-01-20 20:20:01 | 54 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,706 |
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