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What are the coolest things you can do with the mobile app? | Preheating tire inflation ... I can t discern fact from fiction. | 2015-02-20 22:53:52 | 16 | Pre-heat cool car (you set the temp) open pano roof lock unlock honk horn flash lights set charge limit start charging start car track car s location (and see on Google maps on your phone... my wife stalks me) get directions to where your car is parked get notifications (car alarm charging started stopped charging complete charging interrupted software update available) and finally... link your calendar to the car so your daily weekly calendar pops up in the car along with addresses telephone notes etc. | 2015-02-21 00:17:04 | 10 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 22,499 |
Questions to the Batteries in Tesla Cars & Powerwalls? | How much of the resources are needed to make a battery for the P90D (really any model)? Will there ever be a price increase for the batteries because there isn t enough of one material? The batteries do deplete after a certain time are they recycable is there a process to get the lithium batteries back to their full potential or are they trash after they ve depleted to the point in which they are useless? How is the current situation on how Tesla gets their resources for their batteries or at the moment more the company which produced them currently? Thanks! | 2015-09-26 17:18:56 | 6 | http: www.teslamotors.com blog mythbusters-part-3-recycling-our-non-toxic-battery-packs might answer some of your questions. Edit: I should mention this is from 2008. | 2015-09-26 18:03:44 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,013 |
How do you describe the door styles on a Tesla Model S (and front doors for the X) where there is no metal frame top and instead the glass window serves as the top? | In an effort to understand why they designed the doors the way they did I was trying to look up how the car industry refers to those type of doors compared to your standard metal framed [door] (http: www.bing.com images search?q=car+door& view=detailv2& & id=9BCC73E7ADFF25F52ADF9E2173221669296F91B2& selectedIndex=0& ccid=RS7o%2bn1z& simid=608031477558151464& thid=OIP.M452ee8fa7d7315e036c77e7dd17a3ddeH0). What are the pros and cons to this type of door? Is it easier to manufacture? I for one would be concerned that I would be grabbing the glass window a lot to open and close since I use the metal frame equivalent on my car to do that action. | 2016-10-25 20:57:01 | 10 | They are called frameless. I don t know the pros cons but I ve been driving Subarus with this feature for many years. No particular problems to report. | 2016-10-25 21:19:25 | 17 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 8,179 |
Model 3 - Frozen charger and adapter | The saga continues.... Last week I made a thread because like many it seems my window wouldn t go down in what was mild cold weather. Solved the problem since then with your help with some silicon spray and an app to start the car everyday to warm it up. Now...the weather is freezing and the problem...got worse. Yesterday my wife at work use the adapter to charge. For some reason it wouldn t unplug. We tried every release possible including the manual one. In the end she drove with the adapter still plugged in and the charge port open so we could go in an interior garage and unfreeze the adapter that was stuck in place. We then went back home plugged the car at our place (battery was low). This morning the charger is once again frozen. No way to remove it and so we are stuck connected at our home. Once again guys any trick to make sure it doesn t happen. Am I alone in this (haven t seen anything here) and please tell me this isn t normal Edit1 : so a technician came to our house. He finally managed to unplug it (had to disemble from inside the trunk). Now we are charging it to warm up the plug. He also put some grease that s supposed to help. So far that s the only solution they had. Hopefully we won t have to redo all this tomorrow. | 2018-11-22 13:41:28 | 6 | I haven t heard of this before. Considering the Model S and X use similar plugs I would think a widespread issue would ve been reported on and fixed by now. | 2018-11-22 13:58:15 | 14 | Tesla charging port locking | 11,565 |
Smart air suspension now required for most X configurations? | In looking at the Model X configurator I noticed that most variants of the X require you to purchase the smart air suspension. - 6 or 7 seats requires the SAS - 90D or P90D requires the SAS - Towing package requires the SAS There are no such limitations with the Model S. Is this a recent change? Is there a good reason for this or are they just trying to push upgrades on people? It seems like the only way to not get the SAS is if you get a 75D with 5 seats and no towing package which would get you a late 2016 delivery if you ordered now. | 2016-04-21 10:56:08 | 51 | I m pretty sure it requires engineers to install car options not British special forces. | 2016-04-21 13:10:42 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,332 |
If you re dealing with significant vibration at highway speeds read this! | We have a 2021 Tesla Model Y with the 20 all-season tire package. The Goodyear tires have this SoundComfort Tech which is a piece of foam bonded to the inner liner of the tire that supposedly reduces noise (this will be relevant later). We got a flat tire and went through a very stressful and lengthy time to find a new tire. Due to supply-chain issues at the time we either had to wait for 2 weeks for a stock tire or get exactly the same tire but without the foam for \~ $75 less. We chose the fast and less $ no foam. I finished getting two new tires and leaving the most worn as a spare. Fast forward 2 weeks and we get this awful vibration at \~ 65mph getting worst at higher speeds. I immediately assumed (incorrectly) that it was related to the two new tires. I took the vehicle back to America s Tire twice and they couldn t figure it out. They would rebalance all 4x tires but the vibration remained. So I took it to Tesla Service. Kudos to the service technician I got at Sunnyvale CA. He checked balancing on all tires and noticed that the one that was off balance (one of our two stock tires) also needed a lot of steel weights so he took the tire off. And there it was! The foam was all bunched up like a rag inside a washing machine! NEVER AGAIN will I purchase tires with foam inside. Keep it simple. I hope this helps someone else! TLDR: Bought a 2021 Tesla Model Y that came stock with foam inside the tires. One of the tires had the foam fail and created significant vibration issues. It took us weeks to figure it out. | 2022-08-05 05:01:24 | 60 | I had this exact same issue. When I had my 2021 Y with the 20 rims after about 20 000 miles there s a bad vibration above 70 mph and gets worse as speed goes higher. It was the same issue the foam came loose. Tesla tech tried to reapply the foam but the tread got worn unevenly so it didn t fix the issue it just made the vibration speed to 80mph instead. The car flooded shortly after so that s that. | 2022-08-05 15:06:38 | 41 | Model Y Wheel Options | 9,528 |
Favorite Browser Bookmarks? | I am a newer owner with 1500 miles and really utilizing my browser more than I thought I would. I am having a hard time finding the best mobile functioning sites for the experience though. Here is what I am looking for: Best site that isn t loaded with flash popups for sports scores Quick weather for the area Convenient and clean news site for the browser Cnn.com is a mess ESPN is a disaster with all it has going on with it Weather.com doesn t play nice Any go to sites that you have bookmarked in your browser in your Tesla? Thanks! | 2016-09-28 17:01:50 | 7 | QTES.LA gives you some of what you re looking for. | 2016-09-28 18:51:59 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,370 |
Daily Discussion + Support Thread - November 26 | **Use this recurring thread for:** - Basic Questions and Answers - Vehicle Help and Support - Topics of the day or week - Sightings Vehicle Customization Vanity Plates - Orders or Deliveries - Shop Items Discussion (Toys Apparel Gifts etc) **Range Concerns Vehicle Issues Bugs Need Support?** [Range Concerns](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ddcnoh after_11_months_and_18200_miles_i_have_7_battery f2fmu9r ) and [Winter Driving Tips](https: www.tesla.com support winter-driving-tips) | [Subreddit Support Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support) | [Official Tesla Support](https: www.tesla.com support) **Gigathread of Resources** Check out the [Gigathread of Resources](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cdxuwh gigathread_of_resources ) thread for more recent resources and highlights. **Why buy a Tesla?** [Here is a long list of reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) why owners love their cars and [here you can find the most recent software updates](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) rolling out to vehicles (including megathreads for each version). Looking for useful sites that are often talked about? [There s a wiki page](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) for that too. **Cleaning Detailing Tips?** Check out r AutoDetailing they are much more comprehensive. **Looking for comparisons?** Searching the sub first really helps as there are likely MANY discussions on a similar topic (of which the answers you re looking for likely did not change much). Searching vs. could definitely help you find past threads. There is also a [comparisons spreadsheet](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Rv464J1RsXNBNddy008IPsQfVrO4kHPh_L4HWKpG4bo edit#gid=0) we support. **Other helpful links** - [Discord Chat](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) | [Most Common Acronyms](http: decronym.xyz acronyms TeslaMotors) | [Popular Podcasts](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki podcasts) **Related Communities** - r TeslaLounge | r TeslaInvestorsClub | r TeslaPorn | r TeslaClassifieds | r Superchargers | r TeslaAutonomy **Wiki Pages** - [Overview](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) | [About](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki about) | [FAQ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki faq) | [Accessories](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories) | [Did You Know?](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki didyouknow) | [Useful Sites](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) | [Software Megathreads](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) | [Top Reasons](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki topreasons) | [Support](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki support) | [Moderation](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki moderation) **Please be kind** [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. If you want to share a photo you can easily create an image link at [Imgur Upload](https: upload.imgur.com) and include it in your comment. Find past discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). | 2019-11-26 09:09:30 | 23 | I hope this sub gets back to discussing Tesla as a whole and the product they are actually producing. The Cybertruck fan boy echo chamber of “it s the greatest thing ever it s the ICE killer it kills the F150” is getting exhausting. | 2019-11-26 15:14:42 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,628 |
Order for my MX just confirmed - when should i look into financing for a Late February - March delivery date? | Also - who do people recommend going through? Alliant? | 2017-01-04 22:42:27 | 6 | Congrats!! Go through whoever gives you the best terms. Mine was Alliant at the time but shop it around. You ll want to secure financing within 30 days of delivery to avoid multiple credit pulls. Most banks will want to refresh credit after 30 days. | 2017-01-05 00:18:14 | 7 | Tesla Financing Options | 14,478 |
We just got back from Tesla s Alaska proving grounds ask us anything! | Hey all! Greeetings from CNET s Roadshow. We ve just finally finished thawing out after a visit up to Alaska to check out Tesla s cold-weather proving grounds. The full article is here: [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments acia3p tesla\_coldweather\_ama\_coming\_at\_1000am\_pt\_100pm ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments acia3p tesla_coldweather_ama_coming_at_1000am_pt_100pm ) And here s the video if you just want to skip to footage of sliding around in Track Mode: [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=xbaNQQaFrnE](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=xbaNQQaFrnE) Got any questions about any of that? Here s your chance. Our EiC and resident ice racing guru Tim Stevens ( u TimStevensEng) will be more than happy to answer any queries about the cold-weather habits of EVs the beautiful sunsets in central Alaska or indeed the wonders of modern differentials. Fire away! | 2019-01-04 18:00:09 | 215 | Hey all thanks for joining us! By way of context I m an EV owner (Kia Soul) just spent about 8 months living with Roadshow s 2018 Nissan Leaf long-term tester and have been lucky to drive and review an example of every production Tesla going back to the initial Roadster. Also I ve been ice racing in Upstate NY for about a decade now. Thanks for reading! | 2019-01-04 18:03:54 | 43 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,309 |
What % range loss after one year would spur you to contact Tesla? | Got the car one year ago max range was 210 (90% was 190)... so if the 90% is at 170 after one year would that be cause for concern? edit: mileage is 17.8k i don t often charge to max maybe 5 times? amperage is 30amps... | 2015-06-04 04:50:08 | 19 | I d do a range charge or two. This means charging to 100% from the lowest % possible on your pack. This will balance the battery pack and likely give you some mileage back. This does no damage to your battery whatsoever just don t leave it below 10% or above 90% for an extended period of time. Once you approach 100% on the charge you will notice that the amps will drop very low but charging will not finish for a while - this is when the pack is doing major balancing work. Let it complete on its own for the full benefit. Once it s done go drive it! The service center will likely recommend these same steps. I ve seen some people do a range charge for the first time and gain 20 miles back - hopefully you re in the same boat. | 2015-06-04 16:23:28 | 16 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,424 |
2018 vs 2022 Model X long term family focused comparison | I had a 2018 X for well about 4 years. I ve put about 8k miles on the refresh and wanted to share thoughts for anyone thinking about upgrading. Range - Huge win. I went from 270 to 340 miles and faster charging. Add it all up and charging stops are about half as long as they used to be on road trips since you can stay under 60 percent easier. Great! Interior quality - Good improvement. Nicer materials. Everything is just a touch better. Still a small step down compared to my Genesis GV80 but it s fighting in the right league now. Speed - Noticeably faster even without plaid. Teslas are very fun to drive and the refresh is better. Autopilot - Draw to slightly worse. I don t have the phantom braking issues I was expecting and some parts work better but there are a lot of small new bugs as well. Stop and go traffic one of my biggest priorities is worse as it slams on the brakes when someone 20 feet ahead slows down. I have to wonder if this is because they axed the radar. It ends up being slightly dangerous in city highway traffic jams. Controls - Disappointingly a little worse. No stalks the yoke looks cool but isn t as functional I m tired of the button turn signals I honk when turning on autopilot once a week etc. These are just unforced errors and while none are as bad as I feared they are absolutely a small step back from a normal car. Audio - Neutral. Was hoping for something a bit better but no biggie. Rear seat screen - It exists. Not really sure why it s there or why there s a powerful GPU. Please give me more range instead. Kids don t really watch it because it s strangely positioned. Suspension - A bit better. Again not bad but not as good as the GV80. 360 surround view - how is this still not a feature? 7 seat vs 6 seat - 3 wide second row is great if you have 3 kids. 3rd row is worse but if you can use it a lot less 7 seats is the way to go. Plus you get extra cargo space most of the time. Overall - Neutral to a bit better. I buy Teslas because they re the best car experience. I think that s still the case this year but after seeing their trajectory and what others are doing (I m looking at you Volvo EX90) I don t think they ll be the best next year. I m surprised that 4 years of development and a refresh didn t really raise the bar. It s like a minor refresh. Awesome car awesome superchargers but it s odd there aren t more improvements or innovations on the horizon. | 2022-11-15 20:11:19 | 152 | Agree with most of your post! I also went from a 2018 X to a 2022 X. Range - The faster charging was a huge huge bonus. We had a 75D and never realized how much slower the charging rate was. We recently went on a short road trip with the 2022 and the much improved supercharging speed was a welcomed improvement. Controls - I got used to the yoke very quickly. While there are some who actually prefer the yoke (from reading reviews) I would have loved to have a regular steering wheel as an option. The biggest drawback in my opinion is not having a shifting stalk. Trying to do a three point turn in a small parking garage is not much fun using the swipe shifter. I also really miss using the left and right buttons on the 75D s regular steering wheel - especially the climate controls. I find voice control for the climate can be hit or miss and having to use the centre screen for the majority of climate controls can be dangerous at times. Build Quality - My particular build was tremendously improved compared to my 2018 75D. The 2018 had trim issues misaligned doors unclipped plastic pieces just to name a few. Our 2022 was pristine. The overall interior build material and quality while not luxurious per se compared to other luxury brands is noticeably better. Like yourself I buy Teslas because they re currently the best electric car experience. However as cliched as it is competition is definitely on the way. Right now the falcon wing doors are a godsend for loading kids in their seats. However once my kids are grown I will definitely consider other options. Some that come to mind are the Taycan GT future Range Rover Sport EV Rivian R1S and even a Panamera EV. I love our X but like OP said I too was surprised that 4 years of development and a refresh didn t really raise the bar. | 2022-11-16 01:27:37 | 43 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 441 |
Interesting remarks by Elon at Conf call | comments on BMW electric car.. & thinks there is room to improve on the i3.. what do you have to say.. http: www.earningsimpact.com Transcript 82715 TSLA Q2-2013-Earnings-Call | 2013-08-08 08:58:18 | 8 | It s really quite a large number in order to ultimately take say to factory that s producing 0.5 million vehicles a year. And we saw exceeding the entire laptop industry by a decent margin. So clearly new cell factories need to be built. Wow. Edit: Reading the transcript really brings to light how odd Elon Musk s speech pattern is. | 2013-08-08 14:02:40 | 3 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 9,794 |
I m convinced | Today a Customer at work came by driving a Model X showed us around a bit and took us for a drive. That was the last straw that I needed. L I calculated all monthly expenses and reduced most of them (mostly some subscriptions). And starting this month I m saving around 1000€ month to be able to buy the Model 3 as soon as I ve saved half of the price. Hopefully in about two years I can t get rid of my ICE Car. | 2020-03-03 13:33:15 | 1,760 | Welcome to the club. It s going to be difficult to hold off that long I broke more than a few of my strongly held personal finance rules to buy my P3D. I got to about 30% down payment and went ahead with the purchase. Gotta say I m super happy I did it s been great. To punish myself for the early purchase I ve been putting all my spare cash into paying off the car. Never thought I would spend so much on a car if I didn t buy a Tesla I would probably have gotten something used and super cheap because I generally consider a car to just be something to get me from point a to b. Teslas are another animal. One note if you re looking for financial sanity in an early purchase consider comparing the interest extra insurance you would pay on the Tesla to the gas savings in the Tesla. Eg: if you re looking at $150 mo in interest + insurance but you would save you $150 mo in fuel it s probably time to buy. | 2020-03-03 14:00:11 | 450 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,046 |
Charging for Supercharging Won t Deter Local Fleet Operators | Earlier today [ u shadowwolfy](https: www.reddit.com user shadowwolfy) posted a [Supercharger rant](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5bgdp5 another_supercharger_rant ) describing congestion at a location in California caused primarily by local fleet operators. Tesla s recent change to Supercharging policy should help to deter local private owners from Supercharging. However fleet operators like Tesloop and black car companies are going to continue to (ab)use the Superchargers even if it costs them a little money. All fleet operators experience fluctuations in fuel increases in various taxes registration fees etc. They don t close their doors when the cost of doing business increases slightly. They either take smaller margins or simply pass the costs onto their customers. Companies that use Tesla vehicles in their fleets are no different. Charging fleet operators a nominal fee for Supercharging isn t going to stop them from utilizing the Supercharger network for local charging. Tesla is going to come up with another solution to deal with congestion caused by fleet operators. ***Sidebar note***: *Perhaps we need a Supercharging policy change mega-thread? Seems there have been quite a few posts about it today and I m sure more are coming.* | 2016-11-07 20:36:22 | 26 | Furthermore Tesloop s cars are already delivered so they have lifetime free supercharging which they re using the hell out of. Unless the cars are falling apart they ll just keep driving them. | 2016-11-07 21:50:25 | 12 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,830 |
[UPDATE] Interior scratch after serviced | Original post here: https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9vc74r interior_scratch_after_serviced I was dreading going to the service anticipating having to escalate especially since I really don t like confrontations. Surprisingly they didn t object to fixing the scratches. It was such a relief. Good on them. As a side note I found a couple of new things about services warranty. They said they would charge me $175 for diagnosing rattling noise in the car if the source of noise is not Tesla s fault. Also TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) is not covered under warranty. | 2018-11-14 18:55:04 | 11 | > They said they would charge me $175 for diagnosing rattling noise in the car if the source of noise is not Tesla s fault. Odd... I ve never heard of them doing that. Not sure how they could prove by finding the source of the rattle if it was Tesla s fault at all... | 2018-11-14 18:56:40 | 11 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 25,243 |
What are your FSD predictions? | When do you think Tesla with have full operating FSD [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll gd1uxg) | 2020-05-04 00:52:49 | 7 | With regulatory approval 24+ With people watching the system and taking over for minor issues once in a while end of 21 to mid 22 | 2020-05-04 01:15:23 | 28 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 22,528 |
[Discussion] Tesla S CPO vs New Model 3 | I recently purchased a Model 3 LR AWD with EAP and I love it. It got me wondering in light of the tax breaks how does the value of this car hold up against a used Model S at a similar price point. My car cost 58k before taxes and fees. After the state and fed tax credit it comes to 48K. I was curious what kind of CPO Model S 48K buys. The closest I found was this: [2015 Model S 85D](https: www.tesla.com used 5YJSA1E27FF108406) **Features** * 67 010 miles * 85 kWh Battery * All Wheel Drive * 265 miles range (EPA) * 5.4 seconds 0-60 mph * Obsidian Black Metallic Paint * Tan Next Generation Seats * 19 Wheels * All Glass Panoramic Roof * Piano Black Décor * Black Headliner * Autopilot with convenience features * Free Supercharging * Ultra High Fidelity Sound * Subzero Weather Package * Keyless Entry * Power Liftgate * GPS Enabled Homelink My question is which car would you rather spend 48k on? | 2018-12-14 18:42:40 | 7 | Really depends on ones needs. I d recommend the Model 3 in this case though. Almost 70 000 miles on the Model S... The Model S is still a pretty great car though and I overall prefer it to the Model 3. | 2018-12-14 18:45:04 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,788 |
Falcon Wing Doors... No Gap! | I think everyone can breath a sigh of relief about the doors now... They close flush no gap automatically on their own no final push I think the subreddit will probably decrease in posts by half though now... So with that in mind I d like to introduce a new controversy with seemingly no end date attached to the answer -) I do wonder if they have tested the number of opens closes before the door experiences any problems. Much like keyboards are rated in millions of key presses I wonder how many thousands of times the doors can be opened closed without any issues. | 2015-09-30 08:06:24 | 37 | The pop out door handles on the S have been extremely problematic. There are owners that had theirs replaced multiple times. If they can t get the handles right the falcon doors which are many times more complicated will probably cost Tesla a great amount in warranty repairs. | 2015-09-30 12:43:44 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,344 |
Will you be ordering Model 3 without viewing in person? | As we get closer to non-employee owner deliveries I m thinking first production buyers will not have an opportunity to see or test drive it prior to purchase (apologies if this is already established fact I missed it if so.) I had somewhat believed the Release Candidates would go to Tesla stores in the US and reservation holders would be invited to check it out but as time wears on I believe that less and less. In order to expedite my move from “tiny car that crushes like a pop can” to “still small car that s at least more safe” I think I am willing to forego test driving and viewing. (Yeah yeah I know I ve said 20 times I m getting a CPO S rather than wait. I ve never been this indecisive before but for now I m leaning toward Model 3 even if the wait extends beyond January.) Will you be willing to order a $49 000+ car without a test drive or even seeing it and am I crazy stupid irresponsible? | 2017-10-10 01:54:38 | 38 | Yes. Nothing stops this train. | 2017-10-10 01:57:58 | 104 | Tesla test drive experiences | 23,736 |
Anyone have experiences with steep driveways? | Does anyone have experience parking in a steep driveway? I m picking up my Model S next week (yay!) and I m wondering how much of a hassle parking will be. My driveway is short but very steep. The only way to pull into it is forward so I have to reverse out of the driveway. My last car a BMW 335i could do it most of the time but it wasn t unusual to get a fair amount of wheel spin in wet weather I didn t even bother trying to get it out. When a friend parked a rear wheel drive pickup truck in the driveway (without much backend weight) we had to tow it out. What do you guys think? The car is a 75D and I added the Smart Air Suspension option so I can raise it before entering the driveway. On a related question. I see that the manual says the summon option should only be used on level surfaces but it would be very cool if I could use the driveway is narrow so I have to squeeze in and out of cars. Is it worth trying this feature? | 2017-03-01 22:32:48 | 8 | I have a steep driveway with a very steep approach angle. I used to have a BMW 328d x drive and i would have to enter at an angle to avoid bottoming out. In snowy icy conditions it performed decent but not great. The car was too light. I got a Model S and a Model X with SAS. Air suspension raises up to I can take the approach straight on without bottoming out. In snowy icy conditions the AWD performs MUCH better than the X-Drive (and my old 4WD Forerunner for that matter...) The Teslas are so heavy with a low center of gravity that they handle my driveway with ease now. | 2017-03-01 23:18:29 | 2 | Issues with Smart Summon | 1,958 |
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Just ordered a Model 3 | Hey folks I ve been waiting and watching and doing all the research I can think of. Finally pulled the trigger today on my Model 3. As part of that process I need to provide proof of insurance etc. All of that you need a VIN number for. What s the usual turn time on getting the VIN? Also I called a spoke to my local Tesla dealership (Raleigh NC) and the guy I spoke to seemed very sort of...meh... about my purchase and questions. I would think that a company like Tesla would put a premium on the whole WOW YOU JUST BOUGHT THE BEST CAR IN THE WORLD! vibe. Anyone else run into this? Thanks! | 2019-04-25 01:31:07 | 32 | Tesla sales employees are wildly inconsistent. As is the sales process for some people. The car is well worth the disorganization though. | 2019-04-25 01:39:29 | 25 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 10,487 |
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AP and Radar shut down! | Hey guys Last week I ve received the latest software update on my MX with the navigate in autopilot. I got super excited and enabled it and started taking a drive down the motorway. But there was heavy rain and when I enabled the AP I got a error message that read “Bad weather detected” or something along the lines and Navigate on autopilot not available. So I switched back to normal AP and drove for few kilometres before I turned it off and took manual control. After few hours I parked the car and then came back and now my car display shows just the Tesla car icon (Zoomed in view) and it doesn t display the lane markings Cars or anything. No AP and I m pretty sure AEB is not working either. If I try to turn on the cruise control it says it s unavailable. No errors or anything. I ve tried everything. Turning on and off Toggling AP etc Nothing helps. Called Tesla and they pulled my logs and sent for analysis. Given how slow the Tesla service in Norway I m pretty sure it will take some time to get a response. It s such a weird thing and I m wondering if anyone else had a similar situation? No ice or dirty infront of the radar it s clean. Thanks. UPDATE: Today morning I had a software update. Version 16.3 and it fixed the issue. Definitely an issue and I like how Tesla kept quite and fixed it without really telling us. I don t mind waiting but atleast be honest with your users FFS! UPDATE 10th June - I lost AP again. On top I had 2 false alarm triggers today from an empty garage. Frustrating. This update is nothing short of nightmare. Anyone else having any issues? Is it just me? | 2019-05-27 17:37:38 | 9 | Try a Power Off for the night. That fixed that when I had AP process fail on me once. This is also in our support wiki - r teslamotors wiki support | 2019-05-27 17:38:48 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,089 |
What Happened to FSD 10.10 Rollout? | Both Teslafi and Teslascope show almost no cars being updated. It has been a month since I received FSD 10.8.1 and nothing since. Few if any people getting this or the prior version. Supposedly FSD 11 is supposed to be released this month with the unified stack. Strange goings on at Tesla. Does anyone have any idea or clue? | 2022-02-13 04:54:43 | 106 | My guess is they halted rollout after the bollard accident. https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments sn8asd tesla_fsd_beta_collision_walkthrough ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf | 2022-02-13 14:06:24 | 65 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 22,433 |
Model S P100D with 72A charger dropping to 48A right after plugging in. | My S is dropping it s charge rate to 48A after plugging into my HPWC. It shows 72 for a second but immediately drops to 48 before it pulls any current (so not a voltage drop issue). I was out of town and using a destination charger for a few days and noticed that the car had set itself to 6A over night but went back to 48 after replugging. Could this be a charge port onboard charger issue? It has recently gotten colder here but I don t remember this happening last winter. I had assumed it was just voltage drops at the destination charger but it won t go over 48 now that I m at home. | 2019-11-04 18:55:00 | 19 | The 2016 and later had gen 3 chargers not the dual or single chargers so skip past all of that information it s not relevant a lot of 48A chargers are simply restricted 72A chargers used 2 of the 3 boards. The charge rate is set by the pilot not the charger so certainly try a different 72A HPWC if it s still not charging at the 72A then you may be software locked either because one of the boards is getting hot an onboard fuse has blown or the software itself. The third is unlikely as it would not display that you have a 72A charger onboard. The most likely scenario is the destination threw a high voltage and blew a fuse. I doubt Tesla will open up the charger to check there are people like myself using them on third party applications so there is information out there. The can bus simply turns the charger on so I m still saying it s not software. If it s a gen 3 charger you are still under warranty. | 2019-11-04 20:14:48 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,576 |
I need a battery to irrigate the off-grid plantation by night and I can t wait for the Powerwall to be out there. Ant decent alternative ? | Hi My father bought a farm in Morocco chose not to pay for the grid connection and instead has installed solar panels to pump water from a well and push it through the irrigation system. He was very happy when he read about the Powerwall but was disappointed when I told him that it won t be around for some time. He asked me to source some options for him. He doesn t know much about all the stuff so I really want to give him one good option he can go with with his eyes closed. Thank you for your help. NB : If there is a better sub for my question please don t hesitate in pointing it out to me. | 2015-08-06 15:51:28 | 7 | Can you build a water tower or a cistern on a hill? Solar pump by day gravity feed by night. Wind also tends to blow at night so a windmill would be another option. The trick in drylands is minimizing evaporation. Sunken beds mulching with organic matter (instead of burning it) windbreaks and shade structures. Overstory shade trees like date palms can do it too and paradoxically shade can *increase* your yield by preventing overheating. Realize that in deserts if pumping groundwater is your only strategy it will inevitably lead to salting. The water evaporates and salt is left behind in the soil and groundwater. [Sand dams](http: thewaterproject.org sand-dams) are an inexpensive solution to groundwater recharge soaking in the intermittent flood waters. For other strategies check out [Greening the Desert](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=K1rKDXuZ8C0). As for other subreddits to ask I would (of course!) suggest r Permaculture. :) | 2015-08-06 18:18:40 | 3 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 9,122 |
Home charging from this socket? | Hi I have a my first Tesla a standard range model 3 arriving end of June. My garage has this socket installed. Never seen one of these before. Can i charge from this? & #x200B https: preview.redd.it nftvwis0ep351.jpg?width=248& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=4c24533b0615b26bec219a668d63319fd5cae86d And if not can i get the socket swapped out and if so what for? Thanks | 2020-06-08 15:16:39 | 17 | It s a NEMA 6-20. Not a bad option it should get you around 15 miles of range per hour. Pick up the [adapter here from Tesla](https: shop.tesla.com product gen-2-nema-adapters) and it should be pretty much plug and play. | 2020-06-08 15:21:35 | 33 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,950 |
Looking to rent a Model S in the Midwest (Chicagoland area). Anyone interested? | So I m leaning towards purchasing a Model S soon. I own property that is 10 minutes from Midway International airport so I was thinking about parking my car there then posting my car on one of the many rent my car sites. I would rent it out for minimum 6 hours at $25 hr ($150) or $250 for the day. I d also allow renting it out for a few days if someone wants to take it up to Wisconsin and use the Rockford supercharger or down to St. Louis via the Normal IL charger. What does everyone think? Anyone interested in renting it from me when I get it ~2 months from now? FYI: Have another vehicle that I would use as my daily commuter renting it out would be to lower monthly payments and spread the word about the best vehicle out there. | 2013-09-23 22:51:37 | 22 | I forgot to mention in the post this would be a fun way to test the car out for more than just 20 minutes at the store. Dealerships sometimes let you take a car home for a few days so instead of dropping 70k+ on a car with only 20min of test driving you can have a few days with it just to be extra sure. | 2013-09-23 22:53:52 | 3 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,101 |
Supercharging: a discussion on the intent and the consequences of its cost. | Supercharging is a compelling part of the tesla brand. It opens up long distance travel to the electric car and makes Tesla different from its competitors to date. This advantage is based on the idea that superchargers will be available along major routes of travel and would allow fast charging to enable gaining 50% state of charge in minutes. However Tesla has chosen to implement access to their supercharging network in a way that discourages this type of access to be easily available. First by having free supercharging access available for so long many superchargers are being used by individuals who have an incentive (saving money) to use the supercharging network when they may have alternative methods of charging available (home or work). Now tesla has raised the price of pay per use supercharging to rival the price of gas in many areas of the United States. For me it will now cost less to use my old ICE vehicle for long distance travel. I will also not have to wait for my car to charge nor have to wait in a queue of people to get to a supercharger on trips. In other words these two decisions at partially negate Tesla s early advantage and may make individuals who are considering switching to tesla to take pause. At the very least it will further encourage the use of ice vehicles for long distance travel. | 2019-01-19 17:04:50 | 29 | That s so funny. Everybody is looking at per gallon price only and puts zero value on the not destroying planet part. In Europe gas costs easily twice so the Supercharge price increase is still irrelevant. And I put at least 6 digit value on not destroying planet for my children :) I am not sure what is cost per mile on that... | 2019-01-19 17:37:32 | 38 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 18,058 |
Wonder if tesla will add additional low cost SSD flash storage to future models. | Since Elon has stated storage is a bottleneck for more games apps anyone think tesla may include a low cost 32 GB or more SSDs for more storage in the near future? & #x200B I think potentially it may be necessary of course no one knows for sure but I am just looking to have a conversation around this topic. What do you guys think about this as a possibility? | 2019-12-24 19:36:23 | 37 | Tesla already has storage in place for non critical systems your ssd or flash drive for sent mode. They already mount the device. They could just as easy load games and low level stuff to it. Freeing up more room for system critical function storage. This is already solved they just need to put forth the effort to use it. | 2019-12-24 20:01:47 | 17 | Future of Electric Cars | 23,854 |
Feature Request: Battery Analytics on the Energy Display | It would be great to be able see the overall battery health and capacity to easily quantify any degradation and on a day to day basis see what used up the battery (similar to what is in the iPhone s battery usage page). This way we could track how much energy was used for driving climate control LTE idle drain etc. | 2020-01-02 01:16:36 | 74 | Someone on the r volt subreddit was raising a fuss because they just figured out how to see their engine coolant temp and immediately decided they didn t like what they saw and started harassing dealerships. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the coolant temp. Manufacturers can t give out too much information because stupid people will make it an issue. That s why basically zero cars will tell you the actual oil pressure coolant temp trans temp or any other raw data. | 2020-01-02 03:01:54 | 67 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 6,416 |
Quick Question: MS Door Height? [Do not upvote] | I am unable to measure one myself this week but I m designing a vinyl decal for the door of a Tesla Model S. Can someone with a MS and a tape measure nearby measure the height of the door panel to the nearest inch? Thanks! | 2015-04-06 17:55:12 | 45 | TEST COMMENT. PLEASE IGNORE. | 2015-04-07 00:53:20 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,021 |
I m starting a 23000 km road trip this weekend in my Model 3 and would love to show you the car along the way! | Please see the road trip s official Facebook page which is here: facebook.com tsla3 | 2017-12-22 01:15:42 | 156 | [Here s the map](https: www.google.com maps d viewer?hl=en& mid=139UfgNNt9uEgGNZWk2m5YfJKFK1G7Dt7& ll=36.52196479364747%2C-114.45645979999995& z=3) of where they will be. I look forward to seeing you in Burlington NC! Fun fact: it s right beside a town called Elon. Fitting. | 2017-12-22 01:57:12 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,087 |
Michelin Primacy 19 tires -- wearing out long before warranty? | My Model S is of the 2013 vintage where they installed Michelin Primacy tires on the car at the factory. My car now has 21K miles and the tires are ready to be replaced. I ve had them rotated regularly and drive pretty normally no racing or anything like that. Thing is these tires have a 45K-mile warranty... should not that mean something? I ve never had to resort to investigating a tire warranty before but I am curious -- can I get some kind of credit from Michelin? Anyone else been through this experience before? Any suggestions? | 2015-03-23 17:59:28 | 14 | Wow same problem and mileage here. Tires are nearly bald after 20 000 miles. And before you ask I ve had traction control on for the life of the 2013 Model S | 2015-03-23 18:44:16 | 5 | Model Y Wheel Options | 11,439 |
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GM s stance on recalls vs Tesla | GM: [https: youtu.be Pwt1Dc2XD6Q?t=953](https: youtu.be Pwt1Dc2XD6Q?t=953) & #x200B TESLA: [https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2015-11-20 tesla-to-recall-90-000-model-s-cars-to-check-front-seat-belts](https: www.bloomberg.com news articles 2015-11-20 tesla-to-recall-90-000-model-s-cars-to-check-front-seat-belts) & #x200B I cannot fathom how GM even exists after that memo and the switch disaster. They and everyone involved should disappear from this planet. I will forever as long as I can will continue to purchase a Tesla for myself and my family. Safety should be a number 1 priority for an automotive company. Tesla is showing how its done and while others complain about how the body in white is a waste of materials we all know the truth. Sorry for the rant after watching the above video it just really pissed me off. | 2018-10-26 18:40:59 | 8 | Always makes me [remember this part from Fight Club](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=SiB8GVMNJkE) | 2018-10-26 19:08:59 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,096 |
AP failing at i90-405 interchange for anyone else? | I ve been testing AP every day and for the long stretches it does great though it makes some odd choices. 1) when sitting next to the car pool lane with the solid white line it insists on getting over to the center one to maintain route. Why would it not like the lane next to the solid white other than to avoid the passing lane? 2) around Seattle Eastside the interchange from i90 to i405 just refuses to get I to the onramp to 405 until way too late especially during rush hour when there s bound to be extra vehicles lined up Otherwise it s a pretty flawless tool and seems less naggy than prior builds which is great. Anyone else experiencing these things or other annoying behaviors that would keep it from really achieving FSD on highways? | 2019-04-04 00:46:26 | 5 | I think either the map data is wrong or the car isn t localizing itself correctly like it can t see lanes that are physically separated from the main highway and it s offset from where it should be. | 2019-04-04 00:51:58 | 3 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 1,098 |
Does anyone have the capability of doing an AP1 AP2 comparison on the same road? | Something that we have been missing since the new update is a direct comparison to the steering capability of AP1.0. Is anyone out there with access to an AP1 and AP2 car willing to film a comparison video? It would tell us a lot more about the Tesla s progress if we can compare the two. | 2017-05-13 23:53:31 | 63 | Yes! But I cannot deliver for at least 3 weeks. Meanwhile let s get a list of tests going. * Well marked lanes straight road * Well marked lanes curvy road * Poorly marked lanes straight road * Poorly marked lanes curvy road * Daytime vs Nighttime * Faith in system (subjective test) | 2017-05-14 05:51:36 | 26 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 5,433 |
My 21st birthday is coming up and the only reason I m excited is I will finally be able to test drive a god damn Tesla. | Not my first time on a Tesla one of my compsci professors gave me a ride on his model s p90d a few months back. He was willing to let me drive but I turned down the offer because I know it s his baby. Every second I m on the driving seat he loses a year from his life expectancy lol. I know I would. & #x200B Eventually looking forward to getting the new refreshed S couple years later. Also when I say coming up it s still about 8 months away. Don t remember the last time I was excited about my birthday. | 2019-05-15 03:19:24 | 53 | Dont go test driving one unless you are able to buy one within a short timeframe.... you will go crazy. | 2019-05-15 10:06:43 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,230 |
Feature Request: Owners manual and update notes offline or in the app | I drive a 2016 Model S P90D. Almost every time I try to access the owner s manual or read the notes on new updates my screen freezes and won t load any of the information. This is especially frustrating when I m trying to look up the tire pressure recommendations or some other relatively simple information that could be stored locally on the car. Even when I m connected to WiFi in my garage the screen won t load the information. Does anyone know if this is possible or something that has already been recommended? Also I realize this is very much a first world problem and I can just whip out my phone and look up the information online it just seems like this would be a no-brainer for Tesla to do. | 2019-12-16 05:51:03 | 42 | An on board manual updated with each OTA update does seem pretty trivial doesn t it. I ll cross my fingers that it just isn t in an obvious location or no one has brought it to their attention before. | 2019-12-16 06:21:01 | 17 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 6,450 |
Model 3 rear vents only turn on if someone sits in the rear seat | I only just discovered this... the rear vents automatically turn off if it doesn t detect someone sitting in the rear seats. If someone then gets into the car and sits down the rear vents automatically turn on. That s a pretty cool small detail they incorporated. | 2018-07-04 20:39:43 | 179 | You can also turn them on manually from the screen. | 2018-07-04 20:41:37 | 63 | Tesla Climate Control Issues | 12,328 |
Left my 3 unplugged for 31 days in the Texas heat & lost 46 miles (including 2 remote software updates) | Before leaving for a 31 day trip I charged my 3 AWD to 90% 275 miles. While away I got two notifications for software updates and applied them but otherwise only checked in with the Tesla app maybe 1-2 other times. I was pleasantly surprised to find that phantom drain only took 46 miles or about 1.48 miles per day. That s not bad at all considering the two software updates in addition to whatever AC that it had to run to deal with the Texas heat. | 2019-06-20 23:51:34 | 352 | When I read the title I thought you mean it permanently degraded by 46 miles. This is much better to know once actually reading the post! lol | 2019-06-20 23:58:03 | 193 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,785 |
TACC HW2 experiences? | Anyone have an opinion on how this roll-out is going so far? I have had the line wobble since AP2 got soft-rolled out but my car doesn t seem to drive that way. I have had issues with TACC not braking soon enough cars disappearing on the HUD though. I realize it s a convenience features but I have definitely had some close calls in regards to traffic ahead of me stopping. Has happened to me with variable car lengths set as well. Anyone else? I know it s all a work in progress but I don t feel fully comfortable using it for stop and go traffic as is. | 2017-02-07 23:11:03 | 7 | I drove about 150 miles today using TACC almost the entire time and autopilot for about 50 miles or so. TACC has been working great. Same issue as Lipstyle where the car only adapts to lane changers once 50-75% of the car is in my lane (a little late in my opinion). I was surprised how well the autopilot worked today too. It was much better today (on 17.5.28). Smooth ride in the lane with much less swerving compared to a few weeks ago when it also tried to drive me off the road twice. | 2017-02-08 00:00:26 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 18,099 |
Tesla s advertising | Does Tesla have any advertising at all I ve never seen any (I just realized this as I m not a “Tesla person “) I live in Canada idk if that changes anything | 2018-06-28 20:22:58 | 13 | No **advertisements** as in they don t buy ad space i.e. no YT pre-video ads TV ads internet banners print ads billboards etc. But they do **marketing** via their company blog Twitter YouTube channel Vimeo email newsletters and of course their company website. But for all of this you have to actively go to sign up or follow their channels to get any material. So information about them generally spreads through word of mouth which was initially from very happy owners and these days a combination of that and fans. | 2018-06-28 20:58:45 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,215 |
What happened to the weekend roll out of the new FW? | Was looking forward to a Father s Day present from Elon... | 2017-06-18 23:38:36 | 25 | Weekend means end of the month in Tesla time | 2017-06-18 23:51:21 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,683 |
Camp Site Charging | To those who have changed or stayed at an RV campground what was the process? Did you just pull in and start charging? Did you have to rent a spot? Were you told to fuck off? & #x200B I m planning on doing a Model 3 camping trip sometime this summer with an Exped bed and I ll likely stay at a campground at some point. Also any general advice for camping in a Model 3? EDIT: Well look at that a [general camping advice thread.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments deltya camping_methods ) Woops. | 2019-10-08 12:33:05 | 44 | I have camped at RV sites 10+ times in my Model 3 at this point. You will definitely need to call ahead and pay for a spot. The staff has always been very accommodating to me and some have even given me discounts since I only have a car and not a big RV. You will only need a smaller pull-in site as opposed to a bigger RV pull-through spot. The RV parks I have stayed at have charged me anywhere from $20 - $35 per night. If you arrive near empty and can get a full charge while you re there it can be worth around $15 if comparing to the cost of Supercharging which means your stay will actually cost you more like $5 - $20 when factoring in the free charge. You will want a 50 amp site which uses the [Tesla NEMA 14-50 adapter](https: www.tesla.com ns_videos commerce content dam tesla CAR_ACCESSORIES MODEL_3 CHARGING_ADAPTERS 14-50_individual_1099344-00-C_0.png) (Tesla adapters are available on their [website](https: shop.tesla.com product gen-2-nema-adapters) for $35 ea). This will charge your car at 7.7 kW (32A UMC max \* 240V) or about 32 mi hr. I have also stayed at sites that only have 30 amp outlets which works in a pinch but is much slower. 30 amp outlets at RV parks are called TT-30 outlets and they not only have less amps but also half the voltage (120V) of the NEMA 14-50 outlets (240V). Tesla does not make an adapter for these outlets but I made my own [TT-30 adapter](http: carcharging.us images hmatt-30-small.gif) for about $30 using these [DIY instructions](http: carcharging.us adapt home-made-adapters.php). For this setup you have to plug your Tesla NEMA 14-50 adapter into the TT-30 adapter then dial your amperage down to 24 amps (80% of 30) in the car. This will charge your car at 2.9 kW (24A \* 120V) or about 12 mi hr. Lastly if you plan on staying for a few nights and not driving much you may be able to get away with a tent site with just a standard 15 amp 120V outlet for cheaper. Using the standard [Tesla NEMA 5-15 adapter](https: www.tesla.com ns_videos commerce content dam tesla CAR_ACCESSORIES MODEL_3 CHARGING_ADAPTERS 5-15_1099345-00-C_0.png) this will charge your car at 1.4 kW (12A \* 120V) or about 6 mi hr. However most 120V outlets at campgrounds are actually [20 amp outlets](https: images.homedepot-static.com productImages 8144023c-a24a-402b-bf9c-a08cb8370718 svn white-leviton-electrical-outlets-receptacles-r62-cbr20-00w-64_1000.jpg) in which case you can use a [Tesla NEMA 5-20 adapter](https: www.tesla.com ns_videos commerce content dam tesla CAR_ACCESSORIES MODEL_3 CHARGING_ADAPTERS 5-20_individual_1104932-00-B_0.png). This will charge your car at 1.9 kW (16A \* 120V) or about 8 mi hr. Oh and if you are sleeping in your car be sure to set climate to Keep Climate On (uses roughly 1 kW or 4 mi hr in moderate climates) and make sure you keep the Bluetooth on your phone turned on if you lock the doors. I once put my phone in airplane mode when I was sleeping in my car with the doors locked and then when I opened the door to use the bathroom in the middle of the night my car alarm went off probably waking up everyone in the campground :- **EDIT:** As others have mentioned if you are plugging into a [NEMA 5-15 outlet](https: tech90.com wp-content uploads 2016 05 nema5-15-electrical-outlet.jpg) (standard household outlet) and the cicuit is on a 20 amp breaker DO NOT assume that the outlet receptical is rated to handle 20 amps. You should assume the outlet is rated for 15 amps unless the recepticle is 20 amp style with the sideways T [like this](https: images.homedepot-static.com productImages 8144023c-a24a-402b-bf9c-a08cb8370718 svn white-leviton-electrical-outlets-receptacles-r62-cbr20-00w-64_1000.jpg). The following suggestion involves using an adapter to pull 20 amps from a 15 amp style outlet but should only be done if you know for sure that both the breaker AND the outlet receptical are rated for 20 amps: **DO AT YOUR OWN RISK (see edit above):** If the outlet is a regular 15 amp style but the breaker label shows 20 amps you can still use the Tesla NEMA 5-20 adapter but you ll need to buy this [15 to 20 amp adapter](https: www.amazon.com Adapter-Listed-1-Foot-Household-T-Blade dp B07QVX868F ref=sr_1_10?keywords=nema+5-15+to+5-20& qid=1570547790& sr=8-10) for about $10. | 2019-10-08 15:04:44 | 53 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,348 |
Considering Leasing a Model 3 | Heya everyone I ve been planning on buying a Tesla Model S after starting a new job. However it seems I go f***** out of the job and the company ended up cutting the position without telling me. I am still planning on switching over to a Tesla but my current salary does not allow me to afford a Model S (no matter what trim). As a last ditch resort I have been looking at the Model 3 which would be an unfortunate downgrade when it comes to cargo space but should remain manageable. I have been checking out the cost of leasing various trims of the Model 3 (the long range one looking like a good fit). Upon talking with my boss regarding his transition to Tesla he said his insurance didn t change much if at all (from a C-Max to a Model 3). However I just requested a quote from my insurance (Geico) and the premium jumped from $590 every 6 months for a Focus to $1800 every 6 months for a Model 3. That makes my monthly payments toward insurance go from less than $100 month to just about $300 month which I find insane. I am planning on trying to talk to an employee soon to see what s going on with the premium more than tripling for a car that is less than 1.5x the cost of my current car as soon as possible. In the meantime I figure I might try and see if anyone has any recommendations (other than the obvious switching insurance) for figuring out this kind of situation. I know Teslas are a bit of a pain when it comes to insurance as insurance companies treat the car as a whole as a luxury car regardless of the safety that most of that luxury provides and ecological impact. Thanks in advance and sorry if I missed a rule about asking this sort of questions. | 2019-09-16 17:31:08 | 5 | Progressive insurance. They were about half all the other major insurance carriers. | 2019-09-16 17:56:23 | 3 | Tesla insurance pricing comparison | 4,079 |
I returned my Model Y back to Tesla - Full Story Details | I have been hesitant to post my experience on this subreddit but ultimately decided this information should be shared with the community. I have added some more details from another post to help outline the facts. As the title states I returned my Model Y PUP back to Tesla Monday. This was mainly due to safety concerns and poor customer service. I will try and keep my recap short but there are several items to cover... I took delivery Friday June 5th in Kansas City (Delivery Center that was assigned). On my way home to Oklahoma City about half way I heard some noise from under the car. I pulled over to find the front aero piece hanging down and not attached. I see that I am a mile from a Casino parking lot (in the middle of nowhere Kansas) and decide to limp it there to evaluate further. That mile I could hear terrible noises coming from the front but I didn t want to be on the shoulder of the interstate dealing with this so I slowly made it to that parking lot. I call Tesla Roadside and am given the option to drive it back to Kansas City for service or have it towed. They tell me that the towing option would be covered only if the issue is deemed to be a warranty item. If they find its a warranty item I can work on being reimbursed. At this point I had the car for 48 hours and driven 250 miles. I had not hit anything or gone over any rough terrain. I felt confident that this would be a warranty issue. So in order to avoid any further damage to the vehicle I opted for the tow and thought I would get this worked out at the service center. I had it towed to the Kansas City service center Sunday night. An interesting point to note is that there was miscommunication with the tow truck company and the tow truck driver was told that Tesla paid for the tow in full so I wouldn t have to sign anything or pay. I asked the driver a few times to confirm and figured maybe if they find that it wasn t a warranty issue they add it to my service invoice (my first Tesla and Service Experience). The next day (Monday) after finding accommodations in Kansas City for the night I arrived at the service center in the morning to make sure everything was handled. Explained what happened they apologize profusely and say they will take a look. After letting them work on it for a few hours I hear nothing but since I don t live in Kansas City and have nothing to do I decide to wait at the Tesla center. My advisor comes out and says the car is ready to drive but since they don t have parts they have just secured it to be “driveable.” No estimates on when they can get parts (I expected that) and we would address it as soon as they are available. He then tells me this absolutely is covered under warranty because the bolts were not secured properly and it wasn t done right at the factory. So I am glad to hear this but seriously concerned by the oversight. My advisor then tells me I am responsible for the $1 100 tow truck bill. I am initially confused because the car could not be driven without causing more damage. I wasn t close to any store where I could buy supplies to tape it up and I don t want to be blamed for more damage. They tell me I can contact Tesla corporate myself and plead my case but not to expect much. Disappointed about this outcome I decide to leave the store to try and get some answers from corporate. I spend the next hour trying to get through to a real person which shockingly is more difficult than I thought it would be. I was only able to get a hold of someone by using roadside assistance. I tell the situation to the agent and the agent confirms that “if the repair was covered under warranty then the tow should be included in that claim”. So basically this issue is with the service center and not corporate according to them. So my 3rd trip to the service center starts with them completely agreeing that this is a warranty repair. I then tell him that Tesla customer service on the phone said that if it s a warranty repair then the towing should be covered. He agrees but says management won t budge. I say I will need this to be resolved because this is my 3rd trip here and the tow truck driver is calling my phone for payment. After a long back room discussion they tell me Tesla WILL pay for it they just don t know if the Service Department or Roadside Assistance group will be paying it. I also find out the long delays are because all of this is being done by email... They don t have a number to call someone about it. That seems like an impossible way to get anything done in a timely manner but that what I was told... At this point I am upset that this has been so difficult and wasted my entire day and being an out of town customer looks like it will be a nightmare. I was only able to get this far because I stayed in Kansas City an extra night and took off work. I tell them I am returning the car and want to start that process. I think they were shocked and I was told this was the first time any customer had done this (at their location). I loved the car I love Tesla and still do. I just can t deal with this type of stuff in the future. I can update everyone on the return process as it continues. All they had me do Monday was sign a “Return Declaration” and hand them the keys. Haven t heard a word from anyone else at Tesla since yesterday at the store. I just hoping to get some confirmation that my refund is in process. TL DR - I bought a Tesla Model Y 2 days ago. A manufacturing defect caused me to be stuck 2 1 2 hours from home. Tesla covered the repair under warranty but refused to pay the $1 100 tow truck bill. With some of the delivery issues this warranty repair and the terrible customer service it made me rethink this purchase and I walked away. Still like Tesla but will wait until things are more ironed out. Some Clarifications \- the aero piece is different than the Model 3 it is a hard plastic cover. Some have commented that its just a fabric. On my car it would drag and flap wildly hitting underneath anytime I went over 30 MPH. \- My biggest concern was voiding the warranty. I could Uber 20 miles to get some tape or remove it. However I was unable to get any confirmation from Tesla that if I proceed with taping removing it that it wouldn t void my warranty.- I didn t really return it due to the failure it was more from how difficult it was to get a hold of anyone at Tesla and discuss the issue. Living in a state that does not have any Tesla locations made me realize that if I had a problem it might be a difficult thing to resolve. \- My comment about loving Tesla comes from all the things they are trying to accomplish. The car had very little issues (no more than any other new car I had purchased). I know there are some that are in terrible shape and there is no excuse for that. The car was great and amazing to drive. They really just lost me on the on going support. & #x200B Edit: Some have asked for proof - [https: imgur.com a LvHqk82](https: imgur.com a LvHqk82) \- This is the return document signed. It is not an early build for anyone tracking the VINs. The door listed a production date of May 2020 post factory shutdown. Edit 2: A picture of the damage and panel - [https: imgur.com a gLoZkms](https: imgur.com a gLoZkms) \- The wind would catch this panel and it would hit the car and drag on the ground. My understanding is that the Model Y has a slightly different part than the older Model 3 s that were using a fabric composite. I was not close to a store to complete my own repair and no way to get a hold of Tesla and confirm my own temporary repair wouldn t void the warranty. Regardless I was disappointed this part wasn t secured properly at delivery. I did not hit anything you can see the front lip and the rest of the underside has not scrapes or damage. Update 1: Just had a call with a Tesla employee at the Kansas City location. He confirmed that my return is in process and I should expect funds back in 15-20 days. He was very nice and professional but couldn t offer any more information on if my situation will be reviewed by Customer Service leaders at the company. | 2020-06-09 23:57:57 | 4,799 | I hope this ends up on the desk and social media and email of the VP of Customer Experience (or whatever title they use). This is the perfect test case for the company to use for massive improvements. If they want to excel at everything they need to excel here perhaps the most. | 2020-06-10 00:49:27 | 2,188 | Model Y Wheel Options | 9,177 |
[Question] Tesla owners that live no where near a Tesla service center how do you get service? | I reveal night preordered a 3 and am still committed. However it s a 3-4 drive to my closest service center. Thanx in advance! | 2017-01-14 14:25:05 | 17 | They pay for a Ranger to come out or they have a long drive to the service center. Note: Tesla plans to make a lot more service centers for the Model 3. Maybe one will be closer | 2017-01-14 14:50:48 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,182 |
2020.44 Installing | Just got the notification. Have 2020.44 installing right now Model 3LR HW3.0. Searched both r teslamotors and r TeslaLounge and noticed one car updated about five days ago but no one else since. Will post screenshots once its finished currently at 30%. **update** [Release Notes](https: imgur.com gallery kuvze46) * Autopilot Set Speed * Spotify Improvements * Media Search Improvements * Media Sources * Voice Command Language Sorry kids no mass FSD tonight. | 2020-11-03 07:44:01 | 137 | I ve been waiting **literally** 12 months for Tesla to come to a reason and include autopilot at current speed setting. I cannot believe this is finally happening. | 2020-11-03 08:35:25 | 60 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 587 |
ICE vs. EV (sound satisfaction) | I have a feeling this will be buried quickly but I really need some perspective. My current daily is a big-engine rather loud muscle-car type vehicle. It s a late-model not inexpensive 4-door car. Very fast. I am so absolutely ready to pull the trigger on a new M3 SR+ but have backed out every time just before submitting my order. Yes I have driven a Tesla (Model S P85) and loved it but I am concerned with the (admittedly irrational) fear that I will regret the sound of ICE exhaust. I ve been a gear-head my whole life and have been conditioned to associate exhaust note with car quality at least in terms of performance. I am definitely on-board with the ideals surrounding EV adoption. I m just hoping that someone else here has crossed over and found the waters inviting enough to stay. Thanks in advance to everyone. I have been lurking for quite some time and already love this community. I hope to participate more fully soon once I have my own. Thanks everyone. | 2019-06-03 06:21:43 | 7 | EVs do still have a sound. it s a completely awesome much quieter still insanely enjoyable just a different tone. | 2019-06-03 06:24:39 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,346 |
My Model 3 home delivery experience in Maine | Hello! I want to share how my delivery went in Maine. I will try to keep the post short and I ll have pictures at the end! First a few words about my experience working with the ISA. It was pretty bad. My Nevada based ISA was hard to reach and short in emails all the time to the point where they went MIA before delivery was scheduled. I wish there was a way to send this feedback to Tesla. After I impatiently waited for a word on delivery for two weeks I took the matter into my own hands and (as suggested on a reddit thread) I called my delivery service center. Tesla doesn t have one in the state of Maine so the closest is in Massachusetts. The person in MA was extremely helpful and nice: they had the car it was just awaiting green light from the ISA. In their absence the MA center said they will arrange home delivery for me! The delivery was a bit awkward and unlike anything others have experienced at a Tesla center. I live on a very busy two way street and my driveway is narrow so the delivery truck had to stop half a block away from my house in the middle of the street. There was only one person - the driver of the truck - and it was a 3rd party contractor. The driver took the car out of the truck drove it 30 feet in a nearby random parking lot and asked me to check the car. The car was extremely dirty. And I don t just mean dust. It looked like it went through some rough rains and dirt. I mentioned this to the driver and he just said yeah I loaded it in the truck a few days ago and it was pouring rain . Quickly examining the exterior as much as I could considering its lack of cleanliness I found two small penny size dings on the back bumper. The driver took notice of them in the delivery app and wrote them down. Unfortunately this was how far he was allowed willing to say. He told me that he is only delivering the car he doesn t know anything about it besides driving in and out of his truck and that he can t answer any questions about the car. After I signed the delivery papers (nothing stood out as problems at a quick inspection) he left and I had to drive the car home. Good thing I already had my registration ready! Some random findings and things I want to point out... * Battery level was about 60% charged * I have the default phone charging cables (one for Apple one for Android). We re only iPhone users here sadly. Also I had to figure out how to connect the cable by myself (it wasn t hard there are instructions in the bag just annoying) * The car is still not linked to my Tesla account. I called support and they said it can take up to 72 hours. * Having a delivery checklist was extremely helpful! It was a good thing that I ve read the manual a few times prior to this delivery. And that I ve spent hours reading on forums. Not receiving any formal Model 3 101 from Tesla it would have sucked to have everything figured out on the spot. And now the fun part...Everything that others have said is true: car drives nice acceleration is amazing the technology inside it is cutting edge and all this wait has been worth it! I uploaded some pictures and a short video here if you want to see how the delivery and first trip went! https: honey-bunny.box.com v topsy Happy to answer any questions! (edit: added another random finding) | 2018-05-15 18:35:56 | 50 | Congratulations on your Model 3! Still waiting for my VIN. You should wash the car to make sure there are no leaks so I would suggest doing that immediately. May I ask what delivery checklist you used? | 2018-05-15 18:53:04 | 12 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 13,269 |
Mystery solved on Model 3 s ugly wheels | [ Spy shots ](https: electrek.files.wordpress.com 2017 05 screen-shot-2017-05-03-at-10-16-44-am.png?w=1594& h=746) of some of the Model 3 release candidate cars revealed a previously undisclosed wheel that many described as ugly or unfinished presumably base-model wheels. More recently new wheels were seen in a Tesla [test-track video](https: youtu.be HPZ3yvlToVo?t=2m56s) which resembled those from the [matte black alpha prototype](http: imgur.com MJfu14M) and speculation began on where these would fall in the line of Model 3 s wheel options. Thanks to an [astute eye](https: model3ownersclub.com threads official-model-3-beta-watch-thread.2931 page-62#post-26115) from a member of the Model3OwnersClub forum these two wheel types could be one and the same. The black carbon fiber aero wheels appear to be wheel covers that fit over the spartan-looking aluminum wheels to create a lightweight aerodynamic wheel. It all makes a lot of sense now. Thoughts? I m personally torn because I like the look of the aero wheels but there s a bit of a stigma for having what are essentially hub caps on a premium car despite this not being your typical cheap hubcap-over-steel-wheel. There are clearly benefits to this wheel: * No real concerns if you curb your wheel (covers are relatively inexpensive to replace) * Aero shape and low weight will contribute to longer range * Wheels with covers typically do not get as dirty and are easier to clean when they do * Aftermarket will surely have new designs to fit different tastes | 2017-06-03 07:50:36 | 54 | not a bad theory. i can dig it | 2017-06-03 07:57:40 | 16 | Model Y Wheel Options | 13,537 |
Will Gigafactory produced batteries be lighter than commodity 18650 cells? | Since Tesla can optimize their production for cars do you think we ll see batteries with a higher capacity:mass ratio? Cutting 10 grams per cell would shave off over 70Kg from a Model S. | 2015-06-03 12:07:28 | 16 | The critical measure is the energy density of batteries. This is by weight or by size. By weight is called gravimetric energy density measured in watt-hours per kilogram (Wh kg). By size is called volumetric measured in watt-hours per liter (Wh L). Form factor can be anything it can be shaped like a banana. Getting better and better energy density is the holy grail. | 2015-06-03 14:26:08 | 15 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 23,615 |
Long Solar Roof lead times are long (an update) | Back in late August [I posted to this sub that my Solar Roof project had been stalled since I ordered it July 15](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ie2uhy tesla_is_the_hardest_company_to_give_money_to ). We live in California. Order is 13kW single story home 2 200 sq ft with 3x Powerwalls. Well today finally 3.5 months after order Tesla has *scheduled* the installation over the course of three more months. Here s the schedule which Tesla has officially booked. * December 10-12 roof tear-off and waterproofing (using a subcontractor) * December 28-January 15: Solar Roof installation (Tesla) * February 4-6: 3x Powerwall installation (Tesla) * February 8-12: Inspections (Tesla + Utility) * February 22-26: Estimated system activation (Tesla) All of these delays are on their side we ve never blocked this project or asked them to push the dates out. This is I m told the fastest that they could do this project. So at least 7+ months from time-of-order to fulfillment *if* they stick to this schedule. And my house will be without a roof for up to one month with a dumpster and port-a-potty out in front of it for 2 months. | 2020-11-03 19:08:21 | 50 | At this point you re still very much an early adopter with Solar Roof. Hopefully they ll take what they ve learned with your process to streamline installation for future customers. | 2020-11-03 19:14:40 | 16 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 10,964 |
iPhone USB support? | I was just at a Tesla showroom and plugged my iPhone 6 into a P85D with the lightning-USB cable. All it did was start charging. I was expecting it to play music over USB and allow me to change tracks see playlists album art and the works just like for example a Toyota Corolla. Does anyone else think this is a pretty serious lacking feature? I m not expecting CarPlay or anything but come on - most cars in the last 5 years with USB will support the iAP. Is Tesla just not a part of the MFi program? | 2015-06-27 20:52:16 | 32 | A legit concern and one that I myself brought up with the showroom manager when I first looked at the MS. You are being down voted for nothing here IMO. While I enjoy being able to stream music over bluetooth it is not as reliable or as good (technically quality or the information graphics available) as what my Toyota Highlander is capable off over USB or even Bluetooth for that matter. | 2015-06-28 04:41:36 | 10 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 25,404 |
Need help convincing my wife that a Tesla is worth it | Hello all. About six months ago I took a job where I commute 42 miles (so 84 a day) and the gas costs are starting to wear on me. My daily driver is a 10 year old Toyota RAV4 (it averages ~22mpg) and my wife and I are pretty interested in replacing it. I REALLY want a Model 3 but my wife is VEHEMENTLY opposed to the idea. Her primary concerns are that Elon Musk is crazy and that he s running Tesla into the ground. She compared buying a Model 3 to “setting $40 000 on fire” because she s convinced Tesla will be out of business in the next few years. She s also pretty convinced that EVs are a fad that will fade away soon. She wants me to get a more fuel efficient ICE car or perhaps a hybrid but I see this as a great opportunity to make the switch to electric. And I haven t been impressed with the Bolt or the alternatives. So hive mind can you help me with some bullet points that I can present to her to help make my case? | 2019-03-10 14:03:17 | 109 | Don t do it. Don t test drive a model 3. And DEFINITELY don t buy one. The negative externalities are real and should not be over looked: * you and your wife will fight over who gets to drive the model 3. * you will find your self driving the long way around because you re having so much fun driving your car. * you will get one or two speeding tickets blasting off from a red light. Zero to 60 in 4.5 seconds is no joke. * your car will get filled with trash because you never go to a gas station and don t spend 10 minutes cleaning out the crap every three or four days. * every couple of weeks your car will get new software updates and you ll shake your cane like an old man shouting “I didn t ask for a integrated four way dash cam for free” * you ll find yourself opening the garage just to stare at the beautiful car. * it will ruin all other cars for you. You will never want to drive an ICE ever again. Seriously... don t do it. | 2019-03-10 14:27:24 | 277 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 13,675 |
Tesla Q1 21 Earnings Call - Event Megathread | [Livestream Webcast](https: livestream.tesla.com ) **Webcast Start Time: 2:30 PM PDT 5:30 PM EDT 9:30 PM (2100) UTC** [Q1 21 Earnings Report Reddit Post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments mz6qcd tesla_2021_q1_earnings_report ) [Q1 21 Earnings Call Bingo!](https: www.reddit.com r teslainvestorsclub comments myx3ab q121_earnings_call_bingo ) [Q1 21 Update Letter PDF](https: tesla-cdn.thron.com delivery public document tesla a1ab64e7-7c18-421c-a898-9b60397b017b S1dbei4 WEB TSLA-Q1-2021-Update) [Tesla Investor Relations Page](https: ir.tesla.com ) **Please avoid commentary that does not benefit discussion.** See r TeslaInvestorsClub for more in depth investor discussion. See today s Daily Discussion thread [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments myu6m0 daily_discussion_question_and_answer_experiences ). | 2021-04-26 20:40:22 | 180 | What Elon is talking about with FSD right now is not inspiring much confidence in achieving their goals short term. Yeah it s a very hard problem...Guess you shouldn t have been promising it around the corner for 5 years. Kind of sounds like he finally realized how hard it s going to be to actually get to where he said it would be. And that the community is getting tired and aware of having a carrot dangled in front of the cart moving things along year by year oh now we re doing a rewrite the regulators blah blah. The software was clearly just not ready to be what it was claimed to be 5 years ago. [Does the current build look like it was just waiting for regulators lol](https: pbs.twimg.com media EivpE4zXgAEiTtS?format=jpg& name=medium) | 2021-04-26 21:43:05 | 69 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,374 |
Using a JESLA to charge the Model 3 | My last car was an EV with the J1772 connector. To charge it from various common outlets I bought a JESLA which is basically the Tesla Gen 1 UMC modified with a J1772 output. I decided to keep the UMC that came with my Model 3 always in the car for on-the-road charging and use the JESLA as my solution for home charging with the J1772 adapter from the Tesla shop. With the Gen 2 UMC I was getting 32A from a NEMA 14-50 outlet. With the JESLA I am getting 40A from the same outlet. I am not sure why the difference but it is a pleasant surprise that the JESLA I spent several hundred dollars on a couple of years ago won t go to waste! The only thing I am not sure of is whether it is OK to keep the Gen 1 UMC always connected. I hope it doesn t die a premature death because I don t have an easy way to turn off the power to it short of unplugging it and I am too lazy to unplug it from the outlet after every charge. | 2018-05-04 23:31:11 | 9 | The Gen1 UMC can deliver 40 amps (with or without J1772 conversion). Apparently they get kind of hot so the Gen2 UMC that comes with the model3 is limited to 32A. | 2018-05-05 00:13:44 | 7 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,953 |
Referrals: which batch of miles gets used first 5000 or 1000? | Say for example I refered a friend who bought a Tesla back in April. At that time the referral was 1000 free supercharger miles valid for **3** years (correct me if i m wrong). I refer a friend now and get the current offering of 5000 free supercharger miles (valid only for **1** year). Over the next 12 months I use up 500 supercharger miles. Is that 500 miles deducted from the first batch of 1000 miles I got for the first referral or from the 5000 miles I got from the 2nd referal? After 1 year (when the 5000 miles expire) will my balance be 500 miles or 1000? In other words am I shooting myself in the foot by referring someone today? | 2019-05-10 05:09:58 | 13 | I think you re over complicating things. I m not sure this is how it works but I would assume it s done this way: You have one pool of free miles and one expiration date for that whole pool. Every referral you get adds miles to the pool and extends the expiration date by 6 months. So in your example your first referral adds 1000 miles to the pool and expires in 6 months. Your next referral adds 5000 miles to your pool and extends the expiration by 6 months. Using miles just pulls from your total pool of 6000 miles. | 2019-05-10 07:26:33 | 10 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 16,299 |
22 supercharging stations and 128 supercharging piles in China in December!! | According to Tesla s WeChat officical account 22 supercharging stations and 128 supercharging piles have been launched in 21 cities (counties) across China in December. Up to now Tesla has built and opened more than 1 000 supercharging stations and 8 000 supercharging piles in mainland China with more than 700 destination charging stations and 1 800 destination charging piles covering more than 60 cities and regions across the country. [The Source.](https: www.westmoney.com share guess?lang=en& id=931564436324487168& color=2& wm=reddit3) | 2022-01-14 07:19:04 | 25 | Can I ask what “pile” means? | 2022-01-14 14:47:30 | 13 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 645 |
Model 3 Firmware Version 2018.20.5 0e38763 | Just got a notification from TeslaFi regarding this update. Anyone get this update yet? If so please let us know what changes updates you notice so far! Thanks! | 2018-06-01 07:23:29 | 21 | Please tell me it has Wi-Fi support! | 2018-06-01 13:25:38 | 8 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 11,749 |
Improper door close warning ? | Tl dr - ( skip to the questions below directly ) Posting a bit late ( happened last Monday ). Was walking to my car in the parking lot when I noticed a white Model S with the driver side door that wasn t closed properly ( and as a result all the other doors were unlocked ). I waited for a bit and since the owner did not show up I closed the door and the door handles ended up going in ( from the outside it did not look like the car was unlocked saving the car from some sketchy elements :) ) Given that it was raining quite a bit ( San Mateo CA ) I assume the driver was in a hurry to escape the rain. Questions : - Does the car sound an alarm when one of its door isn t shut correctly and you try locking it? ( Or did the owner not lock the doors at all ) - Do owners cross check if their car is locked on the Tesla App ? I think it might be an interesting feature add to have the Tesla App send you a push notificafion confirming the car is locked + a pin in maps to show where you parked it when you leave the car ( similar to what Apple does for bluetooth synced iPhones ) Side note : Getting a white Model S 60D next month ! | 2017-02-26 16:34:57 | 5 | Yeah all it does is flash the lights three times which if you depend on auto lock is pretty useless. An app notification would be awesome. So in busy parking lots where break ins may be more prevalent I ll lock my car manually or I ll check my phone app to make sure the car is locked | 2017-02-26 17:10:18 | 3 | Model 3 phone key issues | 9,587 |
Rumor has it that Tesla s news tomorrow is about a Gigafactory or Model 3 in India | * Elon Tusk and the elephant emoji is an obviously symbolism * The Model 3 is not available in India currently * India is getting their [first lithium battery facility](https: electrek.co 2019 01 21 india-battery-gigafactory-electric-vehicles ) * Musk [said in November](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1058462122219200512) about expansion into India in 2019 * In May Musk said [all he needed](https: www.indiatimes.com technology news elon-musk-says-tesla-would-love-to-be-in-india-as-soon-as-cfo-deepak-ahuja-gives-green-light-346432.html) was the greenlight from CFO Ahuja * Tesla [has already tried](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1001707195799621632) to enter India recently but challenging government regulations stopped them * Musk said in 2016 that he d like to have gigafactories[ in Europe one in China and one in India](https: www.huffingtonpost.in 2016 07 28 elon-musk-wants-to-open-a-telsa-gigafactory-in-india_a_21441157 ) * India s transport minister Nitin Gadkari urged Tesla to [use India as](https: www.energy-storage.news news india-urges-tesla-to-set-up-asia-manufacturing-hub) the major Asia manufacturing hub | 2019-02-27 18:51:22 | 39 | Doubtful. No one in the US would care about that. They would have an event in India if anything. | 2019-02-27 19:01:05 | 51 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,648 |
Model 3 Fact-Finding – Tesla s Charge Stats and Gas Savings Analyzed | Having diligently tracked my own car s charging stats for the past 3 years I set out to verify if the Tesla app s new Charge Stats tab was accurate compared to my data. **TL DR** * DC Supercharging amounts and prices appear correct to within ±1kWh but exclude external component draws such as cabin battery preconditioning taking place while charging. Canada has a per-minute tiered billing system based on kW draw instead of per-kWh energy billing so I m unsure if Tesla tracks this extra usage when taking into account your total session cost * AC charging amounts appear correct to within ±1kWh per session and assumed electricity prices were ±1¢ kWh but localized price assumptions may not include your local transmission distribution charges which ended up making my estimated electricity costs lower than actual by 38% * Preconditioning when plugged in tracks only the power drawn if the car is also actively charging and will ignore power draw for heating even if it comes from the wall if the car s not considered to also be charging at the time. Energy consumed while preconditioning unplugged gets incorporated in your next charging session * A single charge session that spans multiple days will be broken down according to the power consumed before and after midnight and properly attributed to the days in which it occurred but this only updates the stats at the end of a session not the end of a day if charging is still active * Gas Savings assumes USD $0.42 kWh for the equivalent gas car for me which for my Model 3 s EPA consumption and local gas prices works out to the equivalent of a 37.3 MPG gas car. Your equivalent comparison and mileage will vary **Background** My charge tracking setup involves polling the [API Charge State](https: tesla-api.timdorr.com vehicle state chargestate) for changes in charging_state and recording several parameters at the start and end of a detected charge session including Range (km) and State of Charge (%) and several parameters throughout the session including [Battery Power](https: tesla-api.timdorr.com vehicle state drivestate) (DC kW entering exiting the battery) Charger Power (AC kW being delivered from the wall) Volts and Amps (both in AC at the wall). The API presents both Battery and Charger Power as rounded integer kW values making them not ideal for highly accurate tracking however the Volts and Amps are both also rounded integers making for a finer resolution of about 240 W (the change in 1 A at 240 V). Realistically only the voltage varies slightly and the current stays fixed at the charge limit of 48A for my car throughout almost the entire charging session and I ve verified this to within the [±1%](https: cdn9.eyedro.com media docs eyedro-ems-product-guide.pdf) operational accuracy of my home energy monitor so I assume a more accurate Charger Power value of multiplying Volts and Amps. When Supercharging the Volts API value switches over to represent pack voltage and Amps remains 0 while Charger Power indicates the DC power entering the battery but not necessarily the total power being provided by the Supercharger itself as the pack power value ignores the HV load from other drains such as HVAC components or stator heating that may be going on simultaneously while charging. I sample this Charger Power over the duration of the charging session and integrate it to obtain a kWh value of energy used from the plug. I also take the difference in Rated Range from start to end and convert this into a DC kWh of capacity change by using my car s hard-coded efficiency of 145.45 Wh km and from these two results can [estimate a charging efficiency](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments fsnjzm model_3_factfinding_ac_charging_efficiency ) of typically around 89-90%. I ve validated this method using CAN bus data and have done [additional efficiency analysis](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments iws58g model_3_factfinding_an_endtoend_efficiency g628blq ) to break down the [charge efficiency](https: i.imgur.com MKOMK43.png) further but in the end it s the AC power consumed that your utility company charges you for so for the purposes of benchmarking Tesla s stats accuracy this is the most important point of comparison. There are also situations where your car might draw power from the wall but not technically be charging (such as [preconditioning the cabin and warming the battery](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kq39dy model_3_factfinding_winter_edition_effects_of )) and I also keep a running log of data that captures some key stats from any time the car s awake that I ve looked back through to account for these occurrences. Whenever none of the high-voltage components (such as heat pump stator heater or PTC heater) are drawing power the car will only consume power from its own internal battery through the DC-DC converter to power the low-voltage systems and not use any wall power until the main battery drops about 1% below your charge limit and triggers a top-up charge. **AC Charging Test** Last night I charged my car from 51% to 80% over a span of 1h 52m. The pack was already hot from previous supercharging and no cabin heating occurred so the power consumed was only used for charging. I consumed **21.29 kWh AC** from the wall and added **19.3 kWh DC** to the pack with the rest going to [charging losses](https: i.imgur.com MKOMK43.png). This test also spanned about 1 hour each before and after midnight and Tesla s stats page attributed +9 kWh to yesterday and +11 kWh today for a total of **+20 kWh**. The API value of [charge_energy_added](https: tesla-api.timdorr.com vehicle state chargestate) (the kWh added you see on the charging screen in the app) varied between **20 & 21 kWh** at the end though this value is rounded in the app s GUI and the actual [back-end API data](https: i.imgur.com xTRi8Is.png) was oscillating between 20.43 and 20.53 kWh at the end of the session. In either case this charge_energy_added (and the associated charge_miles_added_rated) has historically always been [about 4.5% higher than reality](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments fsnjzm model_3_factfinding_ac_charging_efficiency ) as the smallest capacity change the BMS tracks internally is 0.1 kWh and therefore values with hundredths such as 0.03 are impossible to know. The inaccuracy likely stems from a miscalculation of the bottom buffer of my car basically the car tracks the session s % SoC change which doesn t include the bottom buffer capacity and then extrapolates a capacity change using the Nominal Full kWh which does include the bottom buffer instead of actually tracking the start and end capacities inflating the result by 4.5% (the size of the buffer). In the end I added between 19.3-21.3 kWh of energy depending if you want to consider DC or AC the car reported 20.5 kWh (with a 4.5% known inaccuracy) to the GUI and +20 kWh to the Charge Stats. Even owing to the integer rounding of the stats the value on Charge Stats is not within rounding error of either the AC or DC values but still falls within ±5% of both of them. The app also recognized my home province and assumed a [CAD$0.17 kWh](https: i.imgur.com 9eJzbtc.png) electricity rate. My local utility s actual regulated residential rates were 16.4¢ kWh for January and 16.0¢ kWh for February so on the face of it Tesla s estimation is reasonably close however this rate doesn t include the various administration and transmission distribution charges on top the latter of which adds another 7.1¢ kWh to the price making my actual per-kWh cost for electricity for January at 23.5¢ kWh. Put in this context Tesla s estimation falls short by about 38%. **DC Supercharging Test** Yesterday I supercharged from 34% to 60% while tracking my car data using Scan My Tesla. The cabin heater was off for the test and the pack was already at 33°C from on-route battery warmup however the exactly 10 minute supercharging session also forced 7 kW stator heating the entire time ending with a pack temp of 46.5°C. At these temperatures there s functionally no difference between [Nominal and Expected](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kq39dy model_3_factfinding_winter_edition_effects_of gi1nld7 ) capacities and the BMS tracked a capacity change of **17.6 kWh DC** to the pack. The power measured entering the battery added up to **18.74 kWh** before internal resistances occurred and when accounting for the car s additional draws of 7 kW for stator heating and 0.5 kW of the DC-DC converter the total energy drawn during my session is estimated at **19.97 kWh**. The [car s GUI](https: i.imgur.com 1Gtwbhl.png) tracked **18 kWh DC** added for the session (the API incorrectly reported it as 18.39) and Tesla s Charge Stats for the day changed by **+19 kWh**. When put in the context of these values it appears Tesla is tracking the power directly entering the battery during supercharging which includes internal resistance losses that get hidden by the GUI but not external component draws such as preconditioning. The app also reported my supercharging cost as [CAD$0.18 kWh](https: i.imgur.com 9eJzbtc.png) and the actual session ended up costing [CAD$3.51](https: i.imgur.com 3S2ZcRc.png) for 19 kWh which works out to the same CAD$0.18 kWh so this price appears correct based on this single session and actually means that even in the high power tier Supercharging is cheaper for me than charging at home right now when the transmission distribution charges of my home s service are accounted for. **Preconditioning Test** This morning I purposely set my charging limit much lower than the present SoC to avoid top-up charging then preconditioned the cabin and battery for exactly an hour while plugged in. The constant 7 kW stator battery heating lasted 21 minutes and consumed **2.4 kWh** on its own while the HVAC peaked at 8 kW and eventually reached a steady state of about 2-3 kW and the total AC power draw of the car for the hour was **5.56 kWh**. No actual charging took place however owing to the battery heating alone and Tesla s [temperature-dependent expected capacity](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kq39dy model_3_factfinding_winter_edition_effects_of gi1nld7 ) on which rated range is calculated my rated range increased from 363.23 km to 365.29 km (representing a +0.3 kWh expected change) despite the initial burst of both the stator and PTC heater initially overwhelming my wall connector and forcing some power to be drawn from the pack to sustain heating. I estimate the split at 5.25 kWh (wall) 0.31 kWh (battery). I waited for my car to sleep then woke it again and Tesla s Charge Stats tracked **no increase** to today s Total Charged usage. I then topped up my car from 79% to 90% and this consumed **8.58 kWh AC** from the wall added **7.7 kWh DC** to the pack and resulted in **+8 kWh** change on Tesla s Charge Stats for the day meaning the previous 5-6 kWh spent preconditioning alone went unaccounted for. **31 Day kWh Comparison** Here s [my Tesla Charge Stats page](https: i.imgur.com vCZi0Iv.png) yesterday and here s a [day-by-day breakdown of Jan 6 - Feb 5](https: i.imgur.com Qp8UXn6.png). Compiling my tracked stats for the 31 days ending after last night s Supercharger session I get the following totals: * Total drawn (mostly AC): **510.4 kWh** * While Charging (mostly AC): **478.0 kWh** * Total added DC energy (including apparent range gain from preconditioning): **412.0 kWh** * Added DC energy while Charging only: **408.6 kWh** * Tesla s individual daily Charging Stats added manually: **461 kWh** * Tesla s aggregate Charging Stats for the last 31 days: **459 kWh** Owing to some integer rounding error of Tesla s given values the sum of the last 31 days on the Charge Stats page was 2 kWh higher than the 31 day Total Charged sum. I have yet to intercept the actual numbers from the API to determine if this is rounded on the app or by the car. My own aggregate stats are partially incomplete as my monitoring script had not fully tracked every single day owing to a computer restart on Jan 22 and Tesla [revoking the API tokens](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments sd81ss the_security_researcher_guy_posted_details_about hubleck ) on Jan 12th due to the TeslaMate hack but some days such as Jan 13 Jan 16 and Feb 2 show power being consumed according to Tesla when I know I had no charging sessions those days. My session tracking pins the usage to the day the session ended so it s possible some of the unexpected use was for a session started close to midnight that concluded the following day but the Jan 16-17 span had no charging either day making that day s stat a mystery to me. On most days where I know my stats can be trusted it appears the Tesla Charge Stats page reports a usage somewhere in between the actual AC consumption figure while the car reports as Charging and the DC capacity gain of those same sessions but not exactly in line with either one. The number generally still falls within the tolerances of the AC charging losses (~10% of total usage) so for the purposes of tracking your car s actual energy usage over time I would say you can reasonably trust Tesla s stats with the caveat that preconditioning while plugged in is not currently being tracked unless your car is also actively charging at the same time. Energy consumed while preconditioning unplugged gets tracked on your next charging session simply by virtue of your battery being at a lower state of charge. **Gas Savings Comparison** This is a [more](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaLounge comments sldp3g good_savings_i_drive_150_miles_a_day_charging_off ) [controversial](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments sllddd looking_for_guidance_to_how_tesla_arrived_at_a ) topic but based on the limited set of values presented in both of those linked cases it appears Tesla is using values between about USD$0.42 kWh and USD$0.52 kWh for the equivalent gas car. My last 31 day value currently sits at 459 kWh consumed CAD$77 spent with CAD$247 gas equivalent. My data with today s CAD> USD currency conversion factor gives USD$0.425 kWh. Checking my odometer stats from January 5th until now I drove 1441 actual km (895 actual miles) but owing to the poor efficiency of PTC heating in the cold I consumed 2373 rated km (1475 rated miles) during drives in the last 31 days. Taking my car s [EPA fuel economy](https: www.fueleconomy.gov feg Find.do?action=sbs& id=40385) rating of 116 MPGe at 290Wh mi (including AC charging losses) my rated miles used for the month should be around 2548 rated km (1583 rated miles). With my data not including [preconditioning](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments kq39dy model_3_factfinding_winter_edition_effects_of ) or [AC-DC conversion](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments fsnjzm model_3_factfinding_ac_charging_efficiency ) losses the kWh figure from Tesla s charge stats seems reasonably accurate. Converted to USD$ the average price of gas near me is currently $4.60 gallon. Spending CAD$247 would therefore get me 42.44 gallons of gasoline. 1583 rated miles 42.44 gallons = **37.3 MPG** making my car s 116 MPGe a factor of three improvement hence the 1 3rd spent on electricty If my 895 actual miles consumed 459 kWh (which is probably close) that s an effective overall efficiency of **513 Wh mi** for the month. This is almost twice the [rated efficiency](https: www.fueleconomy.gov feg Find.do?action=sbs& id=40385) of my car and would mean I got an MPGe equivalent of 65.6 instead of 116 but considering my affinity for preconditioning my inefficient PTC heater and that my city s median temperature for January was -9°C that s still almost twice as good as the assumed gasoline car. Since ICE cars don t incur stored energy losses when parked and can heat the cabin with excess motor heat that would be wasted otherwise this is still not too bad of a comparison however seeing an actual comparison stat placed next to one based on the EPA rating could [lead one to argue](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments sllddd looking_for_guidance_to_how_tesla_arrived_at_a ) that Tesla s comparison is overly optimistic. As with everything else in life context is king. | 2022-02-06 22:51:41 | 187 | TL DR should simply state: Tesla s app is relatively accurate. & #x200B The OP s TL DR is much longer than 99.99 full posts on Reddit.  Great info but TL DR is not the right title for that section. lol. I would call that section the summary or abstract. | 2022-02-07 04:03:06 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,739 |
Partner with Tesla | Over a month ago I filled out a form to for my company to become a certified installer for Tesla products. When speaking with someone over the phone they made seem as if it would be a quick process and even mentioned sending people out to hold a workshop on installations. I still have not heard anything back yet. Next steps? | 2020-11-19 14:20:28 | 15 | Can you try giving them a call? | 2020-11-19 14:21:47 | 16 | Career Decision - Tesla vs. Ford | 15,036 |
0.99% APR for New Model S or X Owners | For anyone looking to purchase a new Model S or X Alliant Credit Union is offering 0.99% APR for 72 months from August 1 2017 to September 30 2017! http: alliantpromos.org tesla | 2017-08-02 16:20:42 | 70 | Now if they would only add the Model 3 to that promo! | 2017-08-02 16:28:49 | 26 | Tesla Financing Options | 226 |
Charging small amounts daily (5-10%) - Does it matter? | I ve read everything discussing how you should always try and stay between 20% and 80% on the battery unless you re going on a long road trip but what about if you drive small amounts somewhat frequently. For example if 3-4 times a week you re only driving to the point where 5-10% of charge is used but you re still recharging every night. Is that a big deal charging a small amount frequently or does it not matter as much? | 2015-04-24 20:58:40 | 12 | shallow charges are the best actually especially if you are at a lower SoC (40-60%) for the life of my vehicle it has been around 40-60% and after 2 years of driving and shallow charging i have zero battery degradation. check this out http: batteryuniversity.com learn article how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries | 2015-04-24 22:34:40 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,864 |
Keep an eye out for an app message regarding your HW3 retrofit! | Heard a massive batch of S X and 3 owners who haven t gotten their HW3 (FSD Computer) retrofit done yet (and who have paid for the FSD Option) will be receiving a message to schedule their upgrade! Look at your app! | 2020-06-08 21:56:31 | 57 | I just got it done recently. The mobile tech can come to you if trained well enough. They take about 2.5 hours to work on it. Tips: try to have it in a place with good LTE connectivity or wi-fi connectivity. It s approaching summer so any car cover would be appreciated since the doors are open the entire time. Make sure to thank the mobile tech for their work. Happy retrofitting! | 2020-06-08 22:24:24 | 25 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 10,592 |
What features of the app do you use most? | **tl dr** - What features of the Tesla app on your phone do you use most? What should be there but isn t? Some context: I m a 13-month Model S 70 owner and an Android developer hobbyist who s long since tired of the poor functionality of the Tesla app on my phone. It s slow and so rarely updated with anything of meaning that it s significantly outdated at this point. Seeing as there s some decent iPhone apps out there but none for Android particularly I d like to fill this gap and create a good Android app. My use case for the app is pretty simple: I use it to check my current charge level when charging and to turn on my climate control each morning. However I imagine there are significantly more complex use cases out there so I d like to hear what other people are using the app for most often. I d also like to hear ideas about what you d like the app to do that the current one can t. Things like finish charging at X time instead of start charging at X time . Unfortunately I can only do what the Tesla API lets me so I cannot make your car travel to the future when it s at 88mph (even if it has falcon-wing doors). Please discuss! I m anxious to hear your thoughts and ideas. (Keep in mind that a beta-level product is still weeks or months away.) | 2016-09-23 18:54:13 | 10 | The login screen because I can t get past it. | 2016-09-23 19:12:15 | 18 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 22,658 |
[Discussion] Do Tesla windshields crack chip easily? | We picked up our Model 3 almost 2 weeks ago. On day 3 my girlfriend was driving on the highway and heard a small rock hit the windshield. Common occurrence on her drive to and from work unfortunately. She was looking for the impact spot and couldn t find it until it started cracking in front of her. The crack spread a full 6 while she watched. The next day it stretched from the edge to almost the middle of the windshield. I ended up driving it so I could take it into Tesla. After a day of driving on surface streets a tiny rock hit my windshield and a day later there are two cracks spreading from it. In my 20+ years of driving I ve had probably 60-70 rock impacts and even one lug nut impact. I have never seen cracks let alone such huge cracks form off of such tiny impact points and it makes me wonder if we have a defective windshield e.g. not heat treated properly improperly installed and under bending stresses. tl dr: tiny rock impact turned into a huge windshield crack second tiny rock impact also turning into a crack Day 1: https: i.imgur.com 7ynLeDHh.jpg Close up view from inside: https: i.imgur.com Kj9s60Eh.jpg Next day: https: i.imgur.com bWSnUokh.jpg **Anyone else experience this with a Model 3 or S X?** | 2018-06-28 04:39:08 | 8 | It s luck I think. I had dozens of rocks hit my S and none of them left a mark. Until last month and it created a nasty crack. So no... glass is glass. Just like how some people drop their phones a dozen times and it s fine and somehow you drop it once and it looks like contemporary art.... | 2018-06-28 04:42:16 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,278 |
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Real sentry mode for HW2.0 Model S | Does anyone know if they upgrade HW2.0 to HW3.0 sentry mode and dashcam will be fully functionally instead of fake recording? I want to get usable sentry mode on my 2017 Model S Jan build and the EAP to FSD is reasonable now. Would getting FSD for the hardware grant real sentry mode? | 2019-07-26 04:20:05 | 10 | You ll be waiting a long time for the hardware upgrade. | 2019-07-26 04:25:30 | 6 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 16,154 |
Tesla owners under 30: how do you afford it? | How do those under 30 afford their Tesla? I ve always wanted one but I m driving a Leaf since I was able to snag an incredible deal on a new one and it meets about 90% of my driving trip s needs. I thought I was pretty cool buying a new car with cash at 33 but then I see that there s people under 30 that have P90Ds! How do you do it? Are you all well-compensated software engineers or do you devote a lot of your income to your awesome car? I *could* afford it but between my retirement and mortgage payments I m not sure if it would be smart. | 2017-05-30 20:39:02 | 9 | > How do those under 30 afford their Tesla? 1) Make more money. 2) Make poor financial choices. Pick one (or both). | 2017-05-30 20:49:30 | 73 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,095 |
How many owners are having crazy audio cracking issues on 2019.12+? On 2019.12.1.1 and it is getting worse every day. Model S MCU 1 AP 2.5 | This audio issue is so bad since I updated I now drive with the audio off it doesn t matter if it s Bluetooth Slacker USB or Radio audio cracks like crazy even autopilot when I engage it and disengage it the audio has crazy lag a 1 to 2 second delay on disengaging and engaging to hearing the sound. Let me know if this is a software issue or an MCU 1 overloaded issue. I don t know if MCU 1 is reaching it s load limit with all the things Tesla is adding. My MCU 1 also lags a bit when doing basic things when scrolling through the favourites in Slacker it lags as it moves from side to side. Any lagging issues with anyone else on the same update as I? | 2019-05-14 13:26:41 | 30 | Getting audio cracking issues as well. MCU 2 here. | 2019-05-14 13:41:24 | 9 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 8,438 |
Annoying brake pedal noise with the new Stopping Mode (2019.36.2.1) | I ve been trying the new Stopping Mode (hold) in 2019.36.2.1 (Jan 2019 Model 3) and love driving using the accelerator alone. The only annoying thing I ve noticed is that every time the car comes to a complete stop and HOLD is engaged there s a distinct clunking noise coming from the brake pedal sounds like a popping spring. It happens every single time the car stops with Stopping Mode set to hold so I think there may be a missing rubber stopper or dampener in the brake pedal. Is anyone else experiencing this? | 2019-11-13 01:18:56 | 18 | That s normal. I m more surprised you never noticed this when using AP before. AP when coming to a stop does the same thing. | 2019-11-13 01:58:20 | 21 | Tesla Noise Concerns | 1,529 |
Wild-ass Tesla theory: Are all Model S s actually 85 kWh? | Elon Musk has talked about a secret right under Model S owners noses . And we all know Elon is hinting at battery swapping when he talks about recharging Model S faster than you could fill a gas tank . These two facts seem disconnected but for the fact that battery swapping would be greatly simplified *if all the battery packs were identical.* What if all 60 kWh Model S s are actually 85 kWh cars in disguise? It sounds crazy but look at the precedent. They ve already done software-limited battery packs with the 40 kWh Model S. They ve already snuck expensive hardware into their cars at no charge to further their long-term interests (putting high-speed chargers in the 60 kWh Model S for frictionless upgrade later). Could this be the coup de gras? The idea of course would be that Tesla just swaps around identical 85 kWh packs then software limits your vehicle to whatever battery capacity you purchased. The battery warranty would simply be modified so that it protects you from being stuck with a bad battery. Of course all batteries would be automatically cleaned inspected tested etc. by the swap station before charging. Software would ensure that you never get a battery that is worst than what your original battery would have been so poorly performing packs are pulled from circulation for failure analysis refurbishing or re-use in [other applications](http: www.solarcity.com residential energy-storage.aspx). This would provide a neat alternative to the [lease-the-battery business model](http: www.wired.com cars futuretransport magazine 16-09 ff_agassi?currentPage=all) which failed btw. I know Tesla publishes different weight specs. Has anyone actually weighed their 60 kWh car or even just compared door plaques? | 2013-05-15 05:31:22 | 10 | Sorry man but your theory is wrong. There is a physical difference between the two kinds of batteries. | 2013-05-15 06:06:56 | 5 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 23,609 |
A dream come true… | https: imgur.com a Fi8dJdL An auto enthusiast who has owned close to 30 vehicles. I grew up with people in my family who took junkyard cars and sold them for $50k when they were done with it. I m fairly new to the EV but I have also done my research. I truly never thought I d be here but I am. A plate frame was my very Tesla purchase lol back when the first Tesla Roadster and Model S were announced in hopes of actually owning a Tesla one day. Tesla always intrigued me but at first it was just too pricey for the average person. Then things slowly changed… The Model 3 Model Y and who knows what s next. Owning close to 30 vehicles I have never driven a vehicle where when someone looks at it they look twice. They freeze because of the pure beauty. Some have told me from a distance at first they think it s a Porsche but then quickly see what s actually coming their way. The red to green light torque is mind blowing. The regenerative braking is cool as f**k. The sports car like steering feel is ….well hell yeah!!! Every single inch of this vehicle inside and out is a masterpiece. From the lights and mirror on the sun visor to the Induction wheels. Now the roads ahead of me guide the way in a vehicle that has the latest and greatest tech power and design that many car manufacturers cannot get close to. Aren t they like 10 years behind Tesla? Gone are the long lines at Costco waiting for gas. Gone are the long lines at Costco waiting for gas. Gone are the days that I wait for an oil change while the service guy is trying to tell me there s something else wrong with my vehicle so his technician and the dealership can try and replace a part or replace fluids that are perfectly fine. Gone are the days where the dealership salesperson tries to make an extra $1 000 on a new car sale. The horrible dealership experience and the snakes that go with it in their shiny suits are …..gone. A dream come true… Big props @Elon | 2021-05-31 13:40:06 | 139 | Congratulations! Avoiding those Costco gas lines is so good you said it twice. Don t let r cars know you re simultaneously a car enthusiast and a Tesla enthusiast. That doesn t fit the Reddit narrative that only technology enthusiasts could like Teslas. Wait until you get into a rental car and are alarmed by the clunkiness of everything from the drivetrain the acceleration the choppy responsiveness the rickety infotainment UI (and the need to use Carplay as a cartoonish crutch) and the antiquated notions of human-driver interface. Yeah they re not perfect. Nothing ever is. But the total package makes the current competition look confused and haphazard throwing billions at the situation hoping they can use loss-leaders to save face. Still it s great to see more options especially because tastes differ and not everyone will want a Tesla. It s a truly interesting time in cars. | 2021-05-31 15:02:43 | 42 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 923 |
When is Model X coming to EU showrooms? | Anyone has any idea when X will come to showrooms in europe? | 2016-04-26 06:41:25 | 22 | I emailed a Tesla Rep in the UK a few weeks ago as last November they said end of Q1. Now he s saying by the end of the year for UK Showrooms. | 2016-04-26 10:12:05 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,120 |
The Wonders of Auto Park with the Tesla Model 3 | https: twitter.com slim_tastic status 1150435401686904833?s=21 So wake up early this morning to go for a run and take care of some errands. Upon returning home I pull into my parking garage and hit the auto park button once the option appears. The car starts parking and as it s pulling into the spot it decides to go right into the pillar that was next to me. Needless to say great way to start a morning. Makes you think how this could have happened considering all the positive things we hear about the autonomous features of the Model 3. | 2019-07-14 20:09:04 | 17 | haha looks like the OP failed to RTFM or the onscreen warnings. Once you get this fixed you re going to want to read the instructions starting at: https: www.tesla.com content dam tesla Ownership Own Model%203%20Owners%20Manual.pdf#page=81 > Limitations > ... > • The target parking space is directly adjacent to a wall or **pillar** (for example the last parking space of a row in an underground parking structure). | 2019-07-14 20:32:54 | 30 | Issues with Smart Summon | 20,748 |
Service cost? | I m in the process of planning on purchasing a cheaper model S or waiting for my model 3. Does anyone have a list of standard service costs through the years? Standard service at intervals (oil change equivalents?) and then tires brakes other usual suspects for Teslas? Thanks! | 2017-04-02 16:14:07 | 6 | https: www.tesla.com support maintenance-plans Some peopel that don t buy the plan do the service visit every other year (Year2 Year4) | 2017-04-02 16:32:55 | 6 | Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights | 17,053 |
Tesla map vs Waze Google maps | What are your thoughts on the Tesla map vs Waze Google maps? I use Waze as I like the community looking out for each other for any incidents. Routes updating during the drive for quicker routes. I feel like Waze is more current on traffic conditions and any construction going on. Notifications with police around is a plus. Downside getting a Tesla is that it does not have Apple CarPlay and your forced to use Tesla s map. | 2020-04-21 23:44:03 | 6 | I agree on the CarPlay. I use my phone mapping for better routing. It does better if there is traffic in my experience. | 2020-04-21 23:49:59 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,988 |
True cost to own per mile for model 3 | If we assumed a model 3 will last 300 000 miles on average then added in the initial cost cost of maintenance everything... how much would it cost per mile. If we took something like a Camry and compared the cost over its average lifespan there should be a dramatic difference. This is a very significant metric in my mind and I wonder why it isn t as widely mentioned as something like the total cost over 5 years. | 2019-10-23 02:44:57 | 49 | Not enough people keep cars till 300k+ for this metric to be relevant. That s easily over 20 years for the average driver. | 2019-10-23 02:57:31 | 55 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,492 |
Is the design center default loan (1.49%) realistic? | The default loan in the design center is 1.49% 72 months. How realistic is that for someone with good (> 6 figures) income no debt and > 800 credit score? Never applied for a car or house loan before and that apr sounds too good to be true | 2017-07-14 08:06:01 | 39 | It s legit. I got it. From what you say about yourself you should have no problem. | 2017-07-14 08:59:15 | 38 | Tesla Financing Options | 10,102 |
US Department of Transportation mandates CCS for EV charging infrastructure subsidies | > The Secretary will not certify a State s designated Alternative Fuel Corridors for electric vehicles as being “fully built out” until the Secretary finds that the State s corridors meet the following criteria: > - EV charging infrastructure is installed every 50 miles along the State s portions of the Interstate Highway System within 1 travel mile of the Interstate unless a discretionary exception has been granted > - EV charging infrastructure includes at least four 150kW Direct Current (DC) Fast Chargers with ***Combined Charging System (CCS)*** ports capable of simultaneously DC charging four EVs > - EV charging infrastructure has minimum station power capability at or above 600kW and supports at least 150kW per port simultaneously across four ports for charging and > - Such additional considerations deemed necessary and appropriate by the Secretary of Transportation https: www.fhwa.dot.gov environment alternative_fuel_corridors nominations 90d_nevi_formula_program_guidance.pdf | 2022-02-11 05:58:59 | 219 | Release the CCS1 adapter! Also I can t believe people are complaining even the minimum which is four stalls at 150kW every 50 miles across every US interstate is a pretty massive improvement in charging coverage. It s what we mostly already have in Oklahoma and it rocks for charging flexibility. | 2022-02-11 13:47:53 | 217 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,632 |
Getting my MS tomorrow. Any adapters I need? | What are the adapters I should buy for everyday convenience ? ie: charging at public chargers friends house (120v). I d like to be well equipped for when super chargers are not conveniently located. Thanks! | 2016-10-04 23:11:02 | 5 | IMO don t buy any you don t know you need. We have them all and don t use any of them. We don t even use the mobile charge cable. Just charge at home with the high power wall charger and Superchargers on road trips. At least in our area San Francisco nothing else needed. | 2016-10-04 23:27:28 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,183 |
Model 3 dual motors. Worth waiting for? | I was in line for my model 3 on March 31 2016. I live in the northeast. I think I need dual motors because of snow and ice. That would mean waiting until spring instead of getting it anywhere from November to January. Is the dual motors option a must for snow and ice? | 2017-07-29 14:13:20 | 16 | In the same boat bc delivery of the dual motors isn t until q4 2018 that means the tax credit will be $3750 at best. Thats 3750 more + 5000 for awd means the price delta is $8750 (minus any state incentives and tax on the awd too) Just way too much to wait snow tires it is for me... Edited to change tax credit from 1875 to 3750 | 2017-07-29 14:23:24 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,150 |
[Discussion] My thoughts on Tesla and the Model 3 issues | I just thought I would share my perspective based on everything I ve been seeing and reading lately in r Teslamotors. I ve been in plenty of forums especially Camaro6 (Chevy Camaro) and a common theme I ve observed is problems get a lot of attention quickly and things start to turn negative. I ordered a 2017 Chevy Camaro SS Convertible and while I was waiting I happily jumped on the Camaro6 forums. I read in horror as there were threads complaining about the front windshield fogging up uncontrollably in any humidity and how people were hounding dealers writing corporate etc. only to be ignored. Just nothing. Chevy wouldn t even dignify the problem with a response. I saw pictures where you could barely see through the windshield from all the fog. I was horrified that I placed so much money down on a new car that was going to be unsafe ($50k). People also talked about water leakage breaking alternators screwy electronics etc. I finally get delivery of my Camaro and it was a very happy day. I live in Virginia Beach which is pretty muggy but I read (on the forum) to just put a cloth down on the dash when I use the air conditioner and my window wouldn t fog. I also had one time where the engine sputtered so I had to bring it into the dealership for warranty repair. They found out it was a wiring harness issue. I had to take another car for a weekend trip because of it and I was pretty bummed. Yes it s a $50 000 car but I just love owning it! I love driving with the top down the power the handling Apple CarPlay and all the technology...I could get hung up on all the little things including having to keep a cloth in my glovebox to place on the dash now and then but I just like the car so much I m willing to overlook it. I guess what I m saying is it s not uncommon when making large purchases to come across issues like this. I ve come to learn that nothing is perfect...people aren t perfect...things never work as planned. But if you re willing to have some patience and respectiveness they ll happily work with you to resolve whatever happens. Tesla is growing super-fast and I imagine they re having quite a few growing pains. As time goes by I think they ll work it out to where they re on par with BMW and Mercedes on customer service and reliability. But in the meantime it s not. I am however very happy to be on a 1-2 year waiting list for something exciting new and different. And while it will have its share of problems I ll just be glad to know that one day I ll have an awesome car! | 2018-01-12 00:35:26 | 52 | As I see it Tesla s priorities in approximate order are:- 1) Survive Financially. 2) Make products. 3) Design new and improved products. 4) Fund and deploy expansion. 5) Keep customers happy.... It is not that customer happiness isn t on the list just that some things in particular 1) are higher on the list. Adding to the problem is that when problems occur they often are not well handled.... But problems are inevitable the biggest issue was when customers ordered cars with AP1 and got AP2..... But looking at the big picture Tesla had no other alternative so they can t avoid problems the issue is how to best handle problems when they arise .... they can get better and they should get better .... But that brings us back to 1) Survive Financially - when Model 3 Solar Roof and Storage battery income lands we may see a revised list of priories. 1) Design new and improved products. 2) Keep customers happy.... 3) Fund and deploy expansion. 4) Make products. 5) Survive Financially. Should the happy day of this revised set of priorities occur Tesla will handle this type of issue much better .. IMO it should be a year or 2 away .. it is worth being patient and hoping it arrives. | 2018-01-12 01:33:14 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,623 |
Autopilot users: have you ever had someone try to come into your lane while Autopilot was engaged? | I m wondering what the car would do. Do the collision-avoidance systems kick in and take evasive action? Does Autopilot disengage? I haven t had this happen to me yet and hope it doesn t but I wonder about it whenever I use Autopilot with other cars around. | 2016-08-20 13:16:46 | 16 | Not a user but [there s videos of AP avoiding cars coming into lanes](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=0-M3RY9lSks). One of the [more popular ones](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=9I5rraWJq6E) was actually posted by the person that died in the Tesla crash a couple months ago that made all the news. In those two instances AP stayed on. | 2016-08-20 13:20:42 | 16 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,591 |
Elon Musk Purchases 33 000 Shares Worth $9.85M | New SEC Form 4 just disclosed by Tesla. [http: ir.tesla.com secfiling.cfm?filingID=1494730\-18\-2& CIK=1318605](http: ir.tesla.com secfiling.cfm?filingID=1494730-18-2& CIK=1318605) | 2018-05-07 19:38:08 | 289 | He owned 33 632 421 Tesla stocks yesterday now he owns 33 665 421. This represent an increase of about 0.1% of his holding. In other words if he owned 19.78% of the company yesterday today he owns 19.80%. | 2018-05-07 20:50:56 | 140 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 5,906 |
What s the Model 3 Delivery Estimator timeframe right before “Late 2018”? | I have late 2018 and jus curious what the group ahead of that is. Thanks. | 2017-12-04 19:16:47 | 6 | My estimate (for standard battery) is “Mid 2018” PUP is May-July 2018 | 2017-12-04 19:29:59 | 7 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 22,893 |
M3 SR and SR+ clarification on map differences | So a few videos are up on youtube with reviews of M3 SR+. I captured the below screen shot (not the best quality sorry) of the M3 SR+ map view. What you notice immediately is that there is no map view change. The differences are: & #x200B * Standard maps & navigation (Partial Premium Interior) * Satellite-view maps with live traffic visualization and navigation (Premium Interior) & #x200B What I am confused about (waiting on delivery of my SR+) is this view in figure 1 which is SR+. This looks to be the satellite view. Figure 2 is the NON satellite view on a premium interior. Is there a way to turn off the satellite view in figure one in the SR and SR+ versions? I much prefer the non satellite view as well. The confusing part to me is that this does not match what tesla is saying in the interior differences unless I am mistaking something. I understand not having the traffic button on the map since SR does not support this. However what about the supercharger view? & #x200B Has anyone taken delivery on an SR SR+ that can clarify this for us? Figure 2 is a screen from an older software version but (I believe) my question is still valid. Thanks in advance for any insight into this. & #x200B [Figure 1 \(partial premium\)](https: i.redd.it nav7zv78oin21.png) & #x200B & #x200B [Figure 2 \(premium\)](https: i.redd.it m775jduspin21.png) & #x200B | 2019-03-21 18:52:56 | 5 | Yes right now in the SR+ the Satellite view only works during the day and Vector view only works during the night. A work around during the day would be to manually select night mode. The maps do show all supercharger locations also... | 2019-03-21 23:54:05 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,205 |
Gen 3 charger can earn money soon and will show up in the Tesla Navigation (if public) | & #x200B [From the page https:\ \ teslaenergy.formstack.com\ forms\ commercial\_registration](https: preview.redd.it z949rukk3fw71.png?width=1608& format=png& auto=webp& s=f08e7a892bfb675b1297ed71ad5790020bf9a906) Tesla has uploaded a page for hosting commercial chargers. [https: www.tesla.com support commercial](https: www.tesla.com support commercial) Anyone with a Gen 3 Wall Connector that is publicly available can manage their charger to be used as pay for use charging . Also managing the assets pricing and analytics are possible. Cool stuff! | 2021-10-29 16:41:12 | 380 | What is public? There s a lot of hotels that have these but really anyone can pull up and use them even if you re not a guest. How would they manage who s a guest and who s not if they wanted to charge for non-guests? | 2021-10-29 19:20:23 | 74 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,133 |
At how many miles did you have to replace your first set of Tesla all-season tires? | Remade poll for better ranges. [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll g8n147) | 2020-04-26 21:36:43 | 15 | How many people just randomly selected one because they haven t had to get tires yet but wanted to see the results. Therefore making the results bogus. | 2020-04-27 01:40:10 | 55 | Model Y Wheel Options | 2,307 |
Tesla overdelivered on its promise | When tesla announced the standard and long range options the standard range was 220 miles for $35k and long range was 310 miles for $44k. There was no mention of premium interior for that price. If you look at the LR option now here are a list of things that Tesla is delivering over and above their promises - 1. Long range is 325 miles range (LR RWD) instead of 310 miles. 15 more miles Thats 5% more! 2. LR RWD is for $43k instead of $44k 3. Premium interior features are included in the $43k price which wasnt mentioned in the launch those features were $5k extra for the longest time in model S. LR RWD is literally the best bang for the buck. Amidst all the complaints out there about the recent price drop i just wanted to bring this fact out there. Edit 1 - forgot to mention point 4. 4. 0-60 mph was promised at 5.1 seconds is now 5.0 seconds | 2019-03-04 02:28:50 | 89 | Can confirm LR RWD owner. | 2019-03-04 02:39:47 | 41 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,074 |
Several Reasons to be Optimistic on the EV Credit | With the Senate Budget Committee approving the Senate version of the tax bill today and more Republicans falling in line I thought it would be worth pointing out a few things favoring retaining the EV credit from a political perspective: 1. Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV) has an interest in protecting Tesla and the Gigafactory. That s good. 2. Nissan s LEAF factory (incl. batteries) is in Smyra TN. Tennessee is represented in the Senate by Bob Corker (R) and Lamar Alexander (R). Corker has been a critic of tax reform in general but seems to be a pragmatic guy. This is also good. 3. EV credits generally get lumped in with all green energy credits which are heavily utilized in many red states for wind power. In fact the first we heard that the EV credits were to remain [came from John Hoeven](https: electrek.co 2017 11 09 electric-vehicle-tax-credit-preserved-in-senates-revised-tax-bill-says-senator ) (R-ND) who mentioned that existing clean energy incentives from wind and for EVs would be preserved. Of the top 12 states for wind you have the following relevant states with the number of Republican senators in parens: Texas (2) Iowa (2) Oklahoma (2) Kansas (2) Colorado (1) North Dakota (1) and Wyoming (2). That s 12 Senators in Big Wind states plus 3 Senators in states that make EVs where repealing these incentives directly hurt their state economies. This is the key right here. 4. GM has lobbied to keep the credit (although no other companies have) and GM carries a lot of clout. Ending the credit early most directly affects 3 companies... 2 of them being major US companies and all 3 being major US employers (GM Nissan Tesla). 5. The House is focused on smaller constituencies rather than their states as a whole. For that reason it makes sense than a lot of reps would not care about the EV credit since manufacturing facilities are not widespread enough yet to affect a substantial number of politicians. That s why I think the Senate version of the bill will carry a lot more weight than the initial House draft. One takeaway from the above is that it s pretty clear that as Tesla grows they should consider putting their next factory in a red state in order to hedge their bets politically. Democratic Senators are utterly useless right now in effecting any legislative change. Anyway here s hoping they leave the credit alone. Paying $49k sounds a whole lot better than paying $56.5k when all is said and done. | 2017-11-28 22:12:32 | 53 | Thanks for the detailed write-up OP. Exactly the kind of informative analysis I was looking to read. | 2017-11-28 22:56:03 | 18 | EV Tax Credit Information | 17,071 |
November 2016 lending current loan rates and best deals you have found. | Currently: - Alliant stands at 1.99% for 60 & 72 months 2.24% for 78 - Energy Federal gets you 1.43% for 60 months - Digital Credit Union gets you 1.49% for 65 or fewer months - Tesla Motors Lending via Tech CU: 1.74% for 72 months Thanks again to those who shared these on TMC. Please feel free to share if you ve found anything good and or the actual rates you re getting approved for if you d like. | 2016-11-09 07:00:10 | 18 | Want to add.... CPO rates will be about 0.75% higher than for buying new. | 2016-11-09 10:08:11 | 6 | Tesla Financing Options | 14,203 |
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