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2021 Model Y VIN Number | I ordered a Model Y on 10 3. * Model Y * Long Range All-Wheel Drive * Deep Blue Metallic Paint * 20 Induction Wheels * All Black Premium Interior * Five Seat Interior * Autopilot * Full Self-Driving Capability I just got my VIN number today it appears it is a 2021 model! 10th digit is a M not an L. VIN: 5YJYGDEE1**M**F060XXX | 2020-10-08 04:26:04 | 49 | vehicle identification number number | 2020-10-08 11:51:27 | 37 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 612 |
Trump suggests $0.25 hike in gas tax | https: www.cnn.com 2018 02 14 politics trump-gas-tax index.html If passed it would be hugely positive for EVs and solar electricity generation indirectly. | 2018-02-15 20:32:13 | 204 | First good idea I hear out of this administration | 2018-02-15 21:37:56 | 110 | EV Tax Credit Information | 21,494 |
Tesla Truck? | Hey tesla motors! I was wondering if an all electric 18 wheeler (semi Lori) would be possible. Would the electric motors be able to move a reasonable amount of cargo? The drivers are only able to drive for a maximum number of hours per day so if the battery could provide enough power to drive say 650 miles day the driver would be forced to follow the driving limitations already supposedly in place. I feel with tesla s battery having several of them stacked or arranged in a truck format this could be possible. Just looking to see any thoughts on issues benefits that could be provided by an all electric truck and if this has been discussed previously. Thanks! | 2014-03-21 14:41:04 | 20 | I would be interested in the math but I would suspect the amount of power required to haul a full tractor trailer 650 miles would be daunting. The battery weight alone would be huge and the recharge time as well. As battery tech improves it may be 15-20 years away as a possibility but I can t imagine that now. A model S with 250 mile range is about 25% battery by weight. To go 650 miles it would be a very large battery. If you add tons of cargo I think the number just explodes. That said I would expect an engine with the necessary torque would be more then doable. Edit: I was wrong on the battery weight. It is 1 200 lbs for an 86kwh battery so about 25% of the total weight. | 2014-03-21 15:04:32 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,584 |
Lowest Model 3 VIN to have AP3 FSD computer ? | Does every car that is delivered nowadays contain the FSD computer? My understanding is that every car produced after April 12th has it but you often don t know how much time passes between production and delivery. We re from Europe and ordered a SR+ last month don t have a VIN yet but should take delivery this month (Tesla time). Do you think it will have the new hardware or not? | 2019-06-04 22:15:44 | 17 | VIN are not sequential as stated in another comment but my car had a build date of April 10 and it does have the new computer. I have read another redditor that had a build date of April 9th and did not have the computer so it is safe to say April 10th would be the minimum build date to have the new computer. I got lucky and have one of the first after the change over. | 2019-06-04 22:43:07 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 11,168 |
Financial advice for those looking to purchase a Tesla | Caveat: I m no professional financial adviser - I just want to posit an idea I m using and maybe generate some purchase and financial discussion especially for those young enthusiasts with only modest financial means like me who probably maybe could afford a Tesla. Modest meaning responsible credit history limited or zero outstanding debt and a stable career income source near the US median. TL DR don t buy now: rather save for a couple years re-evaluate your situation and make a decision then. So you want to buy a Tesla. Awesome right! You ve got all the features picked out on the web builder and it comes out to $95k (pre-incentives) for your upgraded Model S. Or maybe you ve got a deposit on a Model 3 and hope to MAX that thing when your number rolls around and buy it in ~2 years at around $55 000 (guestimate). Well let s talk about achieving those goals responsibly rather than emotionally. Given an excellent credit rating shopping for loans on a new Model S at $95k today could get you a 72 month loan at 2% APR for a monthly payment of $1400. Then insurance will vary on locale model deductibles and driving record but conservatively plan for a $700+ six-month premium or about $120 mo. So for a nice round figure including charging costs let s say it costs $1600 per month to operate this vehicle on a loan. Obviously this ignores any down payment delivery taxes and registration fees OR federal state incentives. Similarly for the Model 3 in two years (end of fiscal 18): Given the same excellent credit and a 2% APR 72 month loan for $55k that s an $810 monthly payment. Now let s assume that what was saved by buying a less expensive car (Model 3 vs S) is added to insurance cost in buying a new high performance Model 3 so the premium remains the same at $700ish for six months or $120 mo. Factor in charging costs and we ll round to $1000 per month to operate the Model 3. Obviously this also ignores any down payment delivery taxes and registration fees OR federal state incentives. So how can I of modest income purchase a Tesla without ruining myself financially? Well using a maximum of 43% Debt to Income Ratio (DTI) we can start to analyze our situation. Mortgages are generally not approved if they place a debt burden on someone greater than 43% of their income. This is an accepted measure of how much maximum obligatory spending one should have at any time. And even while renting one should attempt an avenue to buy a home within this constraint. Let s see this chart for some data: | | | Annual Income| | | ---|---|----|----|---- || $45 000 | $55 000 | $65 000 | $75 000 | | | **Monthly Income** | | | || $3 750| $4 583| $5 416| $6 250 5% | $187| $229| $270| $312 10% | $375| $458| $541| $625 15% | **$562**| $687| $812| $937 20% | $750| **$916**| **$1 083**| $1 250 25% | $937| $1 145| $1 354| **$1 562** Housing | 26.7%| 21.8%| 18.5%| 16% On the left column we have the maximum DTI% one is willing to spend on a car followed by the DTI% incurred by the current average mortgage rent payed by US residents on the bottom row (just over $1000 month for a mortgage and just under $1000 month for rent - so $1000 month was used for the chart). This doesn t include other debts (such as student loans car payment credit card payments) which should be taken into account. For a personalized formula use: (0.43*monthly income) - monthly housing cost - monthly debt payments = remaining car payment available. Keeping in line with the 43% DTI maximum the **BOLD** costs in the chart are *approximately* the maximum one should spend on a car given average housing cost and one s income (assuming no outstanding debt). **This calculation is huge because obligatory spending beyond what you are capable of places you at significant risk for financial hardship!** One should be cognizant that buying a Tesla is at least somewhat an emotional purchase. One may believe in the idea of owning not only an environmentally friendly EV but also a high technology luxury sport one (I.E. you don t really need one and you could persist on a $10 000 used car and gas insurance for lower cost but a Tesla sure would be an exciting investment)! _ So how does one reconcile such a purchase? First step: build an honest budget and come up with what you THINK you can afford. Many online school military sources offer budget templates for this purpose - or even simply talk to your parents. Compare your income to expenses and determine what you can afford each month in total DTI based on the 43% rule. Make sure to put some income away for an emergency savings account and further to retirement savings like a ROTH IRA. **This brings me to my personal strategy:** do not buy now if you can t pay mostly in cash (or... don t go into debt unwise unstable). Rather find out what your monthly payment would be for the Tesla you want fully financed and instead of buying now and paying off a huge loan for 72 months (6 years!) pay that amount to yourself in terms of a separate savings investment account. Adherence to this saving investing plan acts as a control for career income stabilization and impulse purchasing especially within the modest financial means category. If you can maintain the savings for 2-3 years as if it were a current monthly loan payment then you are likely financially stable enough to afford the car. The comforting part is you won t lose money on interest to the loan but you *can also* gain interest via sound investing and still have access to that money should you need it. With this method you will have created options. Option 1: Save for a down payment on a new maxed out Model 3 or fiscally comparable S with the most modern hardware in 2+ years and use a much smaller loan that is well within your means for the remainder. Given a savings of $1000 month through 2018 you could have $24 000+ as a down payment. Option 2: Save and buy a used Model S for around the cost of a new Model 3 using the same principles as above. Option 3: Realize you re not quite there financially (but that s ok) and continue to save until you are ready - still have access to your money without massive loan debt. Finally consider the hurdles of owning a Tesla while renting vs owning. You need a reliable place to efficiently charge your car and some rental properties may not be amenable to the required modifications. Consider how switching to a mortgage from renting might affect your savings or DTI. Other things to consider: while saving work to bring your debt down close to zero and improve your credit if applicable. It s not a race - get to where you are financially stable! | 2016-12-03 10:10:20 | 24 | I think this is reasonable. I m sure you did this for yourself and decided to share. Thanks. I may help people on the fence who have to stretch to buy a new car. | 2016-12-03 13:02:08 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,629 |
Control Your Tesla With Amazon Alexa | You can now control your tesla with your voice using saymosaic.com. You can: Turn on climate control Set to a certain temperature Lock the car Honk the horn Flash lights Enjoy! | 2017-01-29 02:43:20 | 43 | There s an easier way to do this. Just say Alexa enable EV Car. Then go to the app click link account and enter your login info. Once set up all of the following commands work: * ask EV Car how far can I drive * ask EV Car for charge status * ask EV Car for car status * ask EV Car for climate status * tell EV Car to set driver temperature to 72 * tell EV Car to set passenger side to 73 * tell EV Car to to honk * tell EV Car to flash * tell EV Car to lock unlock * tell EV Car to turn climate on off * tell EV Car to start heating * tell EV Car to cool my car * tell EV Car to stop climate * ask EV Car how warm is my car * ask EV Car dude where s my car ask * tell EV Car to get ready to take off * tell EV Car to go into hyperdrive https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads ev-car-an-alexa-skill-for-amazon-echo-tesla-integration.85031 | 2017-01-29 08:43:16 | 22 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 4,135 |
Anyone else s data upload rate suddenly stopped? | Used to upload a couple hundred megs a day in the last couple it s gone to pretty close to zero | 2017-10-06 01:33:33 | 8 | I ve seen near zero days from time-to-time but contrary to a 3.9GB upload after a 300mi road trip a few weeks ago I will say that it seems my uploading (AP2) S has trailed off quite a bit. There s a good thread over at TMC on “massive uploads” (that has also tapered off in its discussion...) that seems to show a pattern of lots of data going upstream after a recent software update then slows to a trickle. It would seem logical that they re requesting certain kinds of information get a fire hydrant to the face determine that they got what they needed then close the taps to avoid drowning. Full disclosure: I have no idea what I m taking about. | 2017-10-06 02:03:49 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,898 |
New frameless visor mirror light on Model | Old: [https: goo.gl images kSDxFg](https: goo.gl images kSDxFg) New: [https: youtu.be LfO5vq340JM?t=13m45s](https: youtu.be LfO5vq340JM?t=13m45s) Glad they changed it. The old one s line masking of the frame s curvature is kinda low res and cheap looking. https: i.redd.it e456ku037s511.jpg | 2018-06-23 16:31:07 | 13 | I will admit I don t get what the difference is between them. | 2018-06-23 16:53:26 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,937 |
120V charging might be sufficient for many Model 3 owners with no other options. | The mileage per hour of charge seems to be pretty good news for renters or those who can t have 240v service installed for any reason as I think the Model 3 s weight turned out to be less than many expected. From the estimated charge times on the [Press Kit](https: www.tesla.com presskit#model3) it appears that at the same power level the Model 3 gets about 25-30% more mileage than the [Model S](https: www.tesla.com support home-charging-installation). In a Model S most people report averaging [around 3-4mi hr (5-6.5km hr) when charging from a standard 120v 15a outlet](https: youtu.be BEyOZ842Tzs?t=3m52s). Unless I m mistaken this means in a Model 3 that you d be able to get 4-5mi hr (6.5-8km hr). Certainly not ideal but this realistically means you can get another ~10mi+ (when compared to a Model S) with an overnight charge which might be just enough to make it work for many people. Just like now you d ideally be able to supplement those overnight charges with day-long charges occasionally (or a fast charge at a supercharger public station). | 2017-07-29 20:08:41 | 39 | Yeah most days I just plugged my Model S into the 120v and got 4 miles charge per hour or about 50 overnight. On days I drove more and needed full charge for next day I simply plugged the car into my 30a dryer outlet to catch up. | 2017-07-29 20:43:53 | 13 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 282 |
103 days and still on a loaner battery pack. | I m 103 days in on a refurbished battery for my Model S. How long until I get mine back? The high voltage battery pack went out on May 31st. The service center shipped my battery back to Fremont and provided me with a loaner battery. The loaner battery is a high mileage 60kW whereas mine was a lower mileage 60kW. I ve asked for an update from my service center several times and been told they have no updates. I ve asked who else I can inquire with but to no avail. The service center says that the communication is one way and they will have updates when they are given them. What should I do now? What would you do? | 2018-09-12 00:41:45 | 19 | I had the battery die on my Model S about 2 months ago. After the repair I asked if this was a loaner battery. I was told that they are no longer doing the loaner program and instead are just giving out remanufactured batteries. My range has dropped by about 15 miles and they refused to do anything about it. Still very disappointed. | 2018-09-12 00:48:58 | 23 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 258 |
Looks like Teslafi has been blocked by Tesla | I m surprised it hasn t been posted yet (I actually used the search tool) and I haven t seen anything else. I took a screenshot after editing personal info out I can t find anything else on the website other than when you re logged in so this is all I ve got. Anyone else seeing this on their account? I wonder if this is going to become the new standard not just for teslafi but for all data-collectors outside Tesla itself? https: imgur.com B22LxiU Edit: Had a thought that 2FA MFA is in the works this could be related to that or the recent phone app update. Edit2: u ialexryan had a good point someone should twitter at Elon (I m not hip enough for tweets) Edit 3: looks like Teslafi has been back online for sometime maybe 5 hours. According to comments here Tesla blocked large swaths of cloud provider IP s today. | 2020-09-10 20:21:16 | 115 | It s not TeslaFi specific. Rather Tesla blocked connections to the API from the AWS range of IP addresses. TeslaScope was also affected and has already put together a workaround: https: twitter.com teslascope status 1304156020332085248?s=20 | 2020-09-10 20:36:10 | 75 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 11,116 |
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Delivery Experience in San Francisco | I m deciding whether to try to rush an order to pickup by 12 31. However I ll be out of town from 12 22 - 12 29 so I will lose out on that delivery window. Right now the Tesla website is saying 2-4 weeks for delivery in SF. What are the odds that they hit that window being so close to production? Also if the original pickup date doesn t work for me can I reschedule for a day or two later? Or do they push you back to the end of the line? I don t want to rush the order if it s very unlikely I ll get the tax credit anyway considering I ll be out of town for a week at the perfect time. | 2019-12-01 18:45:50 | 12 | Since you seem pretty indifferent about the tax credit maybe just walk into a delivery center on 12 30 or 12 31 and see if they have any remaining inventory they want gone by midnight. Deals to be had?? If no luck buy in Q1 when you ll likely have a better delivery experience and possibly better build quality by avoiding the last minute quarter end craziness. | 2019-12-01 18:51:13 | 20 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 4,943 |
Tesla Model S dash freeze and reboots when cold | So i m posting this for a friend who has a Tesla Model S P85D. Whenever its cold outside the dash will reboot multiple times during a drive. Today it rebooted and got stuck maybe 3 times during a 5 minute ride. The car has been to Tesla Norway at least 3 times for the issue but its still not fixed. Tesla claims that there is no problem. I ve recorded it multiple times. See video under. Does anybody have any tips to what he can do? https: www.youtube.com watch?v=idybOPjvW5w | 2017-11-10 16:43:03 | 13 | You have recorded evidence of the problem so now they can no longer claim no problem . If you ve been to the SC 3 times for the same problem get them to replace that screen. | 2017-11-10 17:12:53 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,206 |
PSA Regarding SELF-referral | I dont know if this is common knowledge. I didnt know. I recently upgraded to a MS 100D (mainly needed the child seats) and I was able to refer MYSELF for $1000 off free supercharging and a mini tesla for my boys. | 2017-09-29 15:03:08 | 55 | Yep and if you write this one off you can even refer yourself a 2nd time! | 2017-09-29 16:45:11 | 18 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 14,721 |
Mobile service - Simply exceptional | So today I was at home and someone knocked on my door. The person identified himself as a Tesla mobile tech and happened to pass bye and saw my car (he was working on a car of a neighboor a few houses down the road.) & #x200B He scanned for my car and saw there was a recall on the charging port. He asked if I wanted him to execute on that recall right now. I asked for more information and authorized him to work on the car. & #x200B It took him 15 minutes and he was done. & #x200B The fact that they have mobile service is pretty amazing that you can book appointments for them to come and repair issues with your car but the fact that they proactively act on recalls that don t regard security is simply astonishing. & #x200B They are lightyears ahead of any car company in their processes probably of any company period... & #x200B Edit: In all my life every single dealer has used recalls to try and charge me for additional work on my car. Literally leveraging issues with their product to upsell me. I also had to book an appointment get to the location and wait hours for the Tech to work on the car. Not because the job was necessarily long but because the tech had other jobs to finish before working on my car. If you ve ever experienced recalls by any other car company in the world you know what I mean. | 2019-10-21 01:56:30 | 145 | I can t wait to join the Tesla family when we re ready for the Y in about a year | 2019-10-21 02:07:53 | 28 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 11,531 |
Tesla inventory page hinting at a larger battery? | I was looking at Tesla s online inventory page and I ve noticed an interesting new Feature . Check out [this listing](https: www.teslamotors.com models preowned 129934). On this 90D at the end of the features listing it says No Range Upgrade . The 75KW upgrade on the Model S 70D is a [software upgrade](http: www.theverge.com 2016 5 5 11597508 tesla-model-s-70-battery-upgrade-pay-unlock-battery) but it s only available on after the face-lift models. This Model S is the original design I assume test drive or loaner so it has already been built. In which case it wouldn t have the 100KW battery to unlock a Range Upgrade . So if the P100D where introduced to Model S as a software unlock like the 75 was they would need a way to make that clear for the future CPO inventory. This feature isn t listed on all first gen Model S s right now so I m a bit confused. Is there anything else No Range Upgrade could mean? | 2016-06-06 21:40:57 | 9 | I think I can help. Those 90Ds that are listed with a Range Upgrade were built when the 90kWh battery was offered as a range upgrade option from the 85D prior to the discontinuation of that battery pack. If a 90D is listed as range upgraded then it was ordered before the 85D was discontinued in February. | 2016-06-07 00:15:20 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 19,909 |
Friend of mine is at the Tokyo Motor Show. What is this extra screen on the Model X? | So a friend who works in the auto industry is at the Tokyo Motor Show. He sent me a few photos [this](https: imgur.com NhmUqiV) photo from the Tesla stand shows a Model X with an additional screen. Any ideas on what it might be? It s the official Tesla stand but I ve never seen a Tesla Model X with a screen like this. Seems to be an additional camera feed? | 2019-10-26 09:16:26 | 51 | It s a small screen to show the passenger side of the car required by government regulations for wide cars. | 2019-10-26 18:48:06 | 49 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,971 |
PSA: Please post an estimate or exact count of people in line with a time! | The data can be used to estimate how many people have preordered. Try to find an existing thread with your store or make a new thread. Be sure to include whether it is an estimated count or a head count and a time stamp! | 2016-03-31 13:31:59 | 8 | At least 100 in Orlando FL | 2016-03-31 13:33:09 | 2 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 14,889 |
My uneventful and painless Service Center experience | TLDR: a very wordy account of a broken windshield that was fixed with no frustration - other than the fact it happened in the first place. As an added bonus I was loaned a Model S and converted my father-in-law to Tesla and EVs. ———— My round trip commute is 100 miles on rural Southeastern USA roads where logging trucks are a common sight. One unfortunate morning one of them kicked up some sort of debris that hit my Model 3 windshield when I was going ~70 mph and left a crack in the lower right hand corner. Far from ideal but I d be naive to expect this would never happen on the roads I drive. I finish work that day and come back out to my car unplug (thanks for the free charging at work employer!) and hop in. The crack has slowly started to spread and now it s to the point where a windshield repair is out of the question and it will need to be replaced. Well this sucks. I call Safelite - no windshields in stock - but they give me a quote and say they can have it in two weeks but I would still have to go to the Service Center to have the front cameras recalibrated. No sense in making two different trips so I call my most convenient Tesla Service Center. They quoted me a price only 100 more than Safelite (1000 vs 900) didn t have the part but would order it if I wanted to proceed. They didn t have a timeline for delivery of the new glass. That was Friday. On Monday I got a call that it had arrived and I could proceed to schedule an appointment. Thursday (3 days later) worked for both parties. On Weds night I headed to my in-laws since I live three hours away and they re only 20 minutes from the center. The next morning I check in am handed the fob to a Model S 90D and my father-in-law and I proceed to enjoy the Model S for the day (its more his style than the 3 - now he wants one). I get a text a few hours later pick up the car and drove off. End of story. Extra thoughts: - Charlotte NC Service Center - some will say $1000 is too expensive for a windshield replacement. My BMW driving friends say this is an expected price for that service when you have a luxury vehicle. - some will say 3 hours is too far to travel for service. While I agree it was an inconvenience I fully expected when I purchased it last year. Not going to complain about something I knew would happen beforehand. - some will say the camera calibration is an overly complicated need for something as simple as a windshield replacement. Again my BMW driving friends confirmed they ve had to do something similar for one of their cars (a newer M3 IIRC) Edit: grammar and spelling | 2019-05-12 17:36:07 | 72 | Orlando FL here. My Model 3 had some minor scratches on the steering wheel stock. Also some minor paint chips on the bumper. They said the entire steering wheel column will need to be changed. The car was in the shop for 5 business days for a complete repaint and replacement of the stock. All parts were instock. | 2019-05-12 20:01:28 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,521 |
Do Teslas still have the triple shield which includes a titanium plate? Any thoughts on if the Model 3 will also have titanium? | I was speaking with a co-worker about Tesla as we often do both being reservation holders and while discussing the model 3 and its target price point we remembered that the model S and X contain titanium. The article below talks about the addition or change of the battery shield to include titanium a very expensive metal. [tesla-adds-titanium-underbody-shield-and-aluminum-deflector-plates-model-s](https: www.tesla.com en_CA blog tesla-adds-titanium-underbody-shield-and-aluminum-deflector-plates-model-s) So my question is does anyone know if the S and X are still made with this triple shield Elon talks about in the link above which includes a titanium plate? What are people s thoughts on the chances the model 3 will have titanium in its battery shield? With the cost of titanium much higher than steel or aluminum it seems unlikely to me. I also wouldn t be surprised if the current S and X models made have had the titanium element quietly removed from the current battery shield to save costs especially if it is an unnecessary safety measure as is described by Elon. | 2017-03-18 15:15:03 | 7 | Seriously titanium isn t *that* exprensive. It s neither rare not precious. Last I knew it was about $5-6 pound. Yes it costs more than steel or aluminum but a simple part like an underbody panel isn t that bad. Much of titanium s increased cost is because it is somewhat difficult to work with. Edit: Added price. | 2017-03-18 15:44:56 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,223 |
As someone who had their car delivered 1 month ago do you think we will see a conversion kit available to us for the new front and headlights on the Tesla Store? | I just had my P90D delivered on 3 10 and am curious how Tesla will give everyone the chance to update their car if they want to. For instance when I ordered my P90D the only ludicrous upgrade kit on the store was for P85D s to get ludicrous. A few weeks after delivery the P90D ludicrous upgrade kit was announced. The headlights and front section look near same dimensions (although hard to tell from photo). What are the chances Tesla allows us to pay to get some of these new features? | 2016-04-12 21:06:49 | 13 | Feels pretty unlikely. | 2016-04-12 21:15:07 | 11 | Tesla Model Comparison | 2,285 |
What Would You Change About the Center Display for M3 and Future Releases? | I haven t yet driven a Model 3 (just sat in one) but when I watch videos lots of people seem to have issues with reaching the display (shorter individuals). Not that reaching is the problem but it is the reaching and trying to be accurate when pressing on items on screen. Would you change the position or have an option to articulate the display? Any challenges that others are experiencing? & #x200B It did seem like some of it is mitigated by shortcuts like pressing and holding the fan blades to turn off the HVAC so fewer taps are required. What about voice activation for features? | 2019-06-05 15:25:01 | 13 | I d change nothing. I ve never seen an individual short enough to not reach the display. The display is closer to your hand than the average car stereo controls. | 2019-06-05 15:31:56 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,447 |
How big of an issue is glare on the TM3 screen while driving and using the screen? | Currently I keep my phone on a air vent mount in my car and glare is an issue when I try to change music. That got me wondering whether glare will be an issue on the TM3 when I get mine soon. Have any of you experienced issues with glare when the sun is low like during sunset and shining from the back window onto the screen? | 2018-07-17 15:36:26 | 18 | I ve yet to experience any glare issues. Owned my 3 since late March. | 2018-07-17 15:54:12 | 48 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 8,078 |
This is a long shot where can I find the flooring used at the Hawthorne Supercharger lounge? | I know this subreddit is more about Tesla products but felt this might be worth the shot. I m searching everywhere but can t really find something like it. I found it at Tesla s Hawthorne Supercharger lounge. It looked really smooth and clean. Would love rectangular tiles too. [Photo](https: imgur.com 9QRsbxk) I ve gone to a few tile places in town but I m only finding stone tiles. Found porcelain at another place. It just didn t look the same and they all have that speckle stone look to them up close. What s the best way to find this material? | 2017-09-13 21:13:29 | 23 | Daltile Unity color is P400 Avorio in 12 x24 size with polished finish. Stacked bond installation pattern looks like 1 8 grout joints. Any tile dealer near you who carries Daltile (which is probably almost all of them) should be able to order you in a free full size sample tile if you can wait a few days. Likely none of them would have a sample on hand. The price will probably cost around 6 and a half to 7 bucks per square foot. Hope this helps! | 2017-09-14 00:46:46 | 87 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 21,038 |
Tow hitch for the Model 3 | I know a few months back Elon stated that there would be an optional tow hitch available. Any idea what class this might be? I currently tow a 2400lb camper with my car and would love to be able to replace my car with a 3 and not have to keep my car around for towing | 2017-04-02 12:48:36 | 23 | Am I wrong in thinking that this won t be a wise idea for most use cases? The Model S doesn t have a tow hitch right? | 2017-04-02 15:43:23 | 6 | Hitch Bike Rack Review | 21,384 |
First day with 2019.8.5 NoA | I received 2019.8.5 but I didn t get to use it at all over the weekend. This morning I tried to use it but I neglected to activate unprompted lane changes before starting my commute so I could not use it. But I activated it before my commute home. Some of my observations: - Wow this is a HUGE improvement over EAP and NoA from the last version. There is still some hesitation but no weaving or aborted lane changes. -The car pretty much drove itself home once I got on the highway until I exited to local streets. Two exceptions: Had to take manual control when going on exit ramp from Interstate to toll road and through the toll. Had to disable NoA because navigation does not send me the optimum route. Other than these two exceptions it made all of the necessary turns and lane changes necessary in NJ Rush Hour traffic. - Prior to this I found that NoA with “Mad Max” was annoying with its frequent lane change suggestions. So when I activated NoA without prompt I switched it to the least aggressive setting. I found this to be not aggressive enough so when I was in stop-n-go I switched it to the mid setting. Improvement but I think I may go back to Mad Max. - The computer still doesn t make the optimum choice in all situations but it is easy to coerce it to make the decisions you normally would For example at one point I felt the wheel vibrate indicating that it wanted to make a lane change. But I saw there was a slow moving car in the lane that it wanted to change to. So I deferred and NoA passed that car. Shortly afterwards it prompted me with the vibration and this time I let it go. Perfect. - The car managed to squeeze into some pretty tight spots that I did not think it would navigate. NJ commuter traffic can be a Full Contact Sport sometimes and I was really skeptical about how it would handle it. While there is some room for improvement so far it seems to be about 90% of perfect which is pretty good for the first iteration. This makes me glad that I added FSD at the discounted price. - Actually looking forward to my commute on Wednesday. | 2019-04-09 03:29:21 | 21 | I took my father for a drive today. Turned on NoA on the on-ramp but kept it quiet. We drove on 3 freeways for 30 minutes exited and went to our destination. I then asked him if he noticed anything unusual about the drive to which he said no. Then I told him that from on-ramp to off-ramp I had done exactly nothing. No interventions. Lane changes for passing and routing done at the right times without being overly awkward in traffic. He just looked at me in slack-jawed amazement. NoA isn t perfect but damn if it isn t good. | 2019-04-09 04:24:29 | 23 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 6,710 |
[PSA] There is a feature request megathread | Please use it. Also remember that the Software Engineers do have better things to do than change a small part of one system so that you might be happier with X Y or Z. There have been quite a few feature requests that really don t make sense recently such as un-syncing doors and trunk locking or keeping the back up camera on and blocking your map after you ve shifted into drive. It s great that you have a forum for feature requests and that Telsa does come here for ideas but please keep it reasonable and where it should go instead of cluttering up the main page (like I am doing with this post). & #x200B EDIT: [Monthly Idea Feedback Megathread - September 01 2018](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9c4uud monthly_ideafeedback_megathread_september_01_2018 ) & #x200B Thanks! | 2018-09-27 20:55:16 | 40 | Yes most of these feature request just make me happy these people aren t designing cars. | 2018-09-27 21:05:00 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,153 |
Just completed a road trip from Orlando FL to New Orleans LA and back - here is what I learned ... | Drove from Orlando to New Orleans this weekend (Wed evening to Sun evening) and wanted to share some impressions: - The Superchargers work nicely hand-in-hand with the on-board trip planner. Charging is quick and easy. - Range prediction is quite accurate and reliable. - The on-board trip planner does not allow for multiple way points. I could not believe that at first every cheap GPS can do that ... - If one wants to stray off the interstates (and thus the Supercharger network) range anxiety sets in pretty quickly. - SC are oftentimes located in deserted areas. Prime example: Defuniak Springs FL. There s nothing in that place but the SC and four (!) barbershops (so I got a haircut ... :-) ). The one in Mobile is at least close to a shopping mall but still feels like wasteland. - The SC in New Orleans was located in Slidell about 30mi outside town. This was super annoying as we wanted to make day trips from our hotel in town to the Louisiana countryside. Plugshare helped me find one of only two parking garages in downtown with HPWCs. I was lucky that out of two spots one was available (puh!). - Very few destination chargers are in the south (had trouble finding them in New Orleans Mobile as well as Tallahassee). And even when I booked a hotel with one they wouldn t reserve me a EV charging spot. Which makes this a gamble and thus the whole concept a mood point. - I believe what is needed is SCs in every major town center. I d be willing to pay for the electricity doesn t need to be necessarily free (because the cost of space is of course higher in city centers than in a deserted areas outside of town). - AP2 was entirely useless on that trip. Speed limit on interstates is 70mph so the bulk of traffic flows at 75-80mph. And in the cities even in the few 35mph zones traffic flows with 40mph. AP2 does not work at any of these speeds conditions. So bottom line: It was a fun trip mainly due to how nice the Tesla drives and the SC network is great. However the charging infrastructure overall (SCs and others) needs to be expanded. | 2017-03-28 02:55:32 | 21 | > they wouldn t reserve me a EV charging spot This is one of the reasons why I won t feel comfortable taking my family on a long road trip in my X75D until it s about as easy to hit a SC as it is to hit a gas station. Guaranteed availability just take my money. | 2017-03-28 04:01:34 | 6 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 10,403 |
Update to used buying experience | Not sure if anyone was interested in an update to where the story stands with my experience buying a used Tesla. So it was officially confirmed that the sales associate got the wrong vin and wrong car but offered a free service to make up for it. After having missed out on 9 cars and now ten I agreed because the car was honestly identical to the one I wanted less a preferred interior color so I was okay with that. Enter radio silence for the next week. The sales associate has completely disappeared but the delivery person still has been the shining star during this whole ordeal. For those who may not know you get a sales associate and a delivery specialist when you order the used car. I would assume it s the same with new but idk. Now to dot the i s and cross the t s I had to fill out some information like my license insurance etc. One thing they got wrong was the trade in value on my car that took a full week to be corrected again the delivery person was the only helpful hand I got so far. Not all is bad after this week things really started to pick up my delivery associate truly stepped up and assisted with all the questions I had. Still don t have a pick up date yet or any information relevant to when the car will arrive to the center but I am hopeful I will pick up by end of this week. Also anyone in the Fairfield county area who needs an electrician I def have the guy for you. Reliable honest on time. Will update with delivery details hopefully this week. | 2019-02-09 18:41:55 | 16 | I m not sure I understand. What s so hard about buying a second hand car at Tesla? | 2019-02-09 18:45:57 | 8 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 21,800 |
2019 Model 3 Performance is a four-door reincarnation of the 2011 Roadster | This may seem like a ridiculous comparison at first glance but since the original Roadster and Model 3 Performance (M3P) can both be had for about $65 000 today I figured a head-to-head performance comparison might help some folks. They re obviously physically very different cars so I m just focusing on the performance. First here are the numbers: Acceleration to 60mph Roadster - 3.8 seconds M3P - 3.6 seconds Measured max G-force during acceleration Roadster - 0.78g M3P - 0.82g Cornering - I don t have instruments for this but the Roadster has less body roll. On the flip side the M3P handles poor traction conditions better because of AWD. Braking performance - M3P stopped a full car length sooner than the Roadster from 60. Range Roadster - 50 kWh remaining @ 300Wh mi M3P - assuming 75kWh @ 300 Wh mi In short from a pure performance standpoint the M3P beats the original Roadster on nearly all counts. If you re considering these two against each other the decision point will come down to functionality vs fun cool factor. Performance is a wash. It s pretty amazing that in under ten years Tesla s come out with essentially a higher-performance four door version of the original Roadster in the form of the Model 3 Performance for 60% less money. | 2019-05-26 00:35:09 | 80 | 0-60 is 3.2 for Model 3 Performance | 2019-05-26 01:14:15 | 49 | Tesla Model Comparison | 475 |
Tesla Factories: A Scale Comparison - Giga Texas Update [OC] | **UPDATE (7 29 2020):** **Based on suggestions I have updated the** [**scale comparison**](https: live.staticflickr.com 65535 50164529672_00b417564c_k.jpg) **to include the entire Giga Nevada property arranged the factories in a straight line and removed the background image. Here s one** [**without construction borders**](https: live.staticflickr.com 65535 50164273011_6a7fc87abe_k.jpg)**.** [Giga Nevada property boundaries](https: live.staticflickr.com 65535 50165256281_2ca911d62d_k.jpg) were determined by my brother by searching Tesla on the [Storey County Property Inquiry](http: storeynv.devnetwedge.com ) website clicking on each parcel owned by Tesla clicking View Plat Map at right and then piecing all of the parcel maps together in Photoshop. **ORIGINAL POST (7 28 2020):** Tesla has officially chosen Austin Texas as the location for their next Gigafactory and it s going to be their biggest factory yet! Construction is already underway and they plan to complete a Model Y assembly line there by the end of the year. The factory will produce Tesla Semi Cybertruck Model 3 and Model Y. I created an updated high res [scale comparison](https: live.staticflickr.com 65535 50165165031_c94b721ff6_k.jpg) based on Tesla s [Giga Texas plans](https: electrek.co 2020 07 24 tesla-gigafactory-austin-ecological-paradise-open-public ) and updated [Giga Berlin plans](https: electrek.co 2020 07 02 tesla-changes-gigafactory-berlin-plans-removes-battery-production-test-track ). Here s one [without construction borders](https: live.staticflickr.com 65535 50165421652_717b6fe0d3_k.jpg). All satellite photos are representative of what each factory looked like as of July 2020 and have been adjusted for scale. Previous Updates: [May 2020](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments glnfcg tesla_factories_a_scale_comparison_may_2020 ) | [November 2019](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dw1562 tesla_factories_a_scale_comparison_gigafactory_4 ) | [October 2019](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dgighm tesla_factories_a_scale_comparison_ocupdate ) | [May 2019](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments bn75e0 tesla_factories_a_scale_comparison ) | 2020-07-28 22:35:07 | 137 | Everything is bigger in Texas | 2020-07-28 22:52:41 | 45 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,939 |
Reminder: The 90 day happiness guarantee is a thing | I m on day 82 or so since taking delivery of P90D. Working on getting details on upgrade to P100D via happiness guarantee. Will share what I learn. | 2016-08-23 21:26:14 | 39 | The downpayment on Tesla leases is substantial (around 5% and in some cases closer to 10%) and likely covers their loss on a 90 day trade in. Remember they keep the down payment when you invoke the happiness guarantee. I m not saying it s a bad deal -- having a contractually guaranteed price for giving back the car within 90 days is right with the spirit of leasing (having a guaranteed turn in price) but it s worth pointing out that it is not a free lunch. | 2016-08-23 22:09:34 | 22 | Tesla Model Comparison | 16,391 |
Feature Request: Authenticate via App for Summon | I have PIN to drive enabled for extra security especially since I park in a public garage. Using Smart Summon is kind of cumbersome due to having to enter the PIN while also in a bit of a hurry. It would be nice if the PIN could be remotely entered or otherwise authenticated (Face ID etc) while using Smart Summon. | 2019-12-26 18:08:50 | 16 | This exists. Go to controls > start. That will disable pin to drive for one “ignition cycle.” | 2019-12-26 18:23:01 | 8 | Issues with Smart Summon | 6,411 |
Autopilot improvements? | So it has been quite some time since I last saw this asked what do you guys who have Autopilot think of how it has improved since it originally was released? | 2016-02-18 05:30:55 | 12 | At this point for me autopilot is usable on virtually any road that has DOT striping and can do it all hands-off. I could do most of my driving hands-free except for when I need to take control to obey a traffic light stop sign or make a turn. The exceptions: - My neighborhood roads have no striping and autosteer isn t available at all. I don t blame the tech because it s at least being smart enough to know when it can t activate. - On Interstate 4 at the stretch from about Haines City to Lakeland the road surface is nearly white. The lane markings are alternating black and white stripes. AP will attempt to handle this but does it poorly. It s losing lock on the lane markings so often that it s weaving around the lane quite a bit. It s never given me cause to think it s going to get me hurt but it s not comfortable at all so i disable it and drive like it s 1999. Or 2014. Or a Ford from any year. - I get a Hold the Steering Wheel notice when I am passed on the right in dense traffic. That s odd because when the traffic is really heavy it s not unusual for one lane to move faster than the other periodically. I don t know what triggers it but it s not a big deal. | 2016-02-18 15:46:02 | 7 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 2,551 |
For those financing: Energy Federal CU offering as low as .61% | Incase you dont frequent the TMC forum: Just got approved for .61% over 60 months up to $100k. Definitely the lowest rate I ve found anywhere. A little bit of a hassle to get an account but worth it if you ask me. www.energyfcu.org | 2014-11-13 20:35:12 | 29 | For others who are looking into this I was confused when I saw their lowest rate was 1.51%. Dug a little deeper and [found this](http: www.energyfcu.org home loans vehicle types hybrid): Go Hybrid: Energy FCU Supports Fuel Efficiency **1% Loan Discount for Qualifying Vehicles** Purchasing an alternative fuel vehicle is a win-win situation...for both our environment and for your wallet. When you buy a hybrid vehicle or another qualifying alternative fuel vehicle we ll give you a 1% discount on your loan rate. | 2014-11-13 22:38:56 | 6 | Tesla Financing Options | 6,852 |
Does the Model X know how much you tow ? | If you tow something does the Model X tell you how much it is and does not let you drive when you tow more than 2250 kg ? Or could you tow how much you want ( even if it would kill the range and would not be good for the car) ? I just ask this because I would like to see how much the Model X could tow for a short period of time. Like setting a new world record for towing something in a electric vehicle . | 2017-05-30 15:30:49 | 11 | The car knows how much energy it is using and that directly relates to weight. It knows the temperatures of the cells discharging. It knows the temperature of the electric drive motors. Does it tell you? Sure. It will say *Service Needed*. | 2017-05-30 18:11:22 | 7 | Hitch Bike Rack Review | 5,546 |
My review of the 2021 Model 3 and Model Y Long Range Coming from a 2016 Lexus ES also I hate the ProContact RX tires. | My trusty 2016 Lexus ES350 was totaled in December. I wanted to try an EV so I started looking at Tesla. I paid about 48k for my ES so the Model 3 and Model Y were right in that price range. Before I get into details I ended up going with a Model Y with 19 wheels even though that was my least favorite because I intend to swap out the suspension with unplugged performance s luxury coil overs. The Model 3 s I test drove had the new center console and the Model y had the laminated acoustic side windows. I also tried the Model Y with 19 multiple times because it was just so different from what I would expect in relation to other Tesla cars. Also I d like to think that I wasn t being overhyped by the sales people of the excitement of buying a new car because none of Tesla s cars including the Model S had anything on the new 7th generation ES. So while the 6th generation wasn t too impressive to me as I owned it the 7th generation ES is quieter than better riding than even the S with air suspensions. I could have gotten that but I did want to try an EV and Model Y seemed sufficient. & #x200B Anyways I tested 4 configurations Model 3 LR with 18 and 19 and a Model Y LR with 19 and 20 & #x200B In terms of cabin noise from quietest to loudest I rank them in this order: 1. Model 3 with 18 2. Model Y with 20 tied with Model 3 with 19 3. Model Y with 19 Now some of you may look at and think I m crazy Why would a Model Y with the 20 wheel be quieter than the 19 ? I m not sure myself. But I thought perhaps the Model Y I test drove was defective so I went to two different showrooms in different cities and tried it again. Something about those 19 wheels don t sit well with me. It had a low pitched hum when I drive that just hurts my ears and it also sounded like there was more suspension noise. Maybe its the wheel design maybe its the tire that s on it I won t know until I test it further but the Model Y with 20 wheels were noticeably quieter than the Model Y with 19 wheels. Model 3 with the 19 wheels actually sounded about similar to the Model Y with 20 wheels which is why they re together. Here s the kicker though the Model 3 with 18 Aero wheels was quieter than any of the other cars. It was significantly quieter than the 19 wheels. This leads me to believe that the tires that come on the 19 wheels for both the 3 and the Y which would be the Continental ProContact RX are just absolute garbage in terms of road noise. Comparing the Model 3 with 18 wheels with my lexus ES with 18 wheels(both had the same time the Michelin MXM4 but I don t think my Lexus had the foam inserts) The Model 3 in most situations wasn t much louder than the ES. Now some people who ve never driven the ES may look at reviews and the talks about how quiet it is the 6th generation ES line was never quiet to me sure it was quieter than a Camry or an Accord but it was not as quiet as a 5 series E-Class or even a Hyundai Genesis or Kia Cadenza. It was just alright and Model 3 is just that it s not silent like the german cars but it was comfortable enough for me to talk to myself without thinking the road noise was overpowering me. So Model 3 with the 18 wheels is much quieter than any Model Y and any the Model 3 wheels. & #x200B Next is ride quality and this is how I would rate them 1. Model 3 with 18 2. Model 3 with 19 3. Model Y with 20 tied with Model Y with 19 Model 3 suspension in general felt a bit softer and more refined than the Model Y but on really bad roads the extra height of the Y s suspension helped but overall both Model 3 wheels were better than the Y wheels. I do have to say that the difference between the Model 3 with 18 and 19 is not close at all. The Model 3 with 18 wheels at 44PSI still felt better than the 19 at like 33 PSI (I brought the car to my house during the test drive deflated it and ran laps around my block) As for the Model Y the suspension was so crashy on the freeway that I could not tell the difference between the 19 and 20 other then that fact that the 20 was quieter. Both are crashy so if you feel like ride quality would hold you back from getting the 20 don t it feels mostly the same. This is based on my expeirence at the Santa Monica showroom and the Centinela Showroom Service center where the roads are concrete and not very flat. At the Torrance showroom I could tell that the extra tires of the 19 made it a little better gliding over large bumps but the suspension itself was so stiff but that it made no difference. I still held onto the steering wheel for dear life on speedbumps. So as a Lexus ES owner if I had to choose a car that was the quietest and most comforatble I would have picked the Model 3 with 18 wheels. However I did want some extra cargo space in the back. And based on my experience with the Model y with 20 wheels the cabin itself isn t super loud comparable to a Lexus NX IMO its more to do with the terrible tires on the 19 model. So I decided to order the 2021 Model Y LR with 19 wheels and once I take delivery I m going to try two things 1. Change out the tires this will tell me if the problem with the nosie is the tire or the wheel design. 2. Next if the tire isn t helping I ll just swap out the suspension. But that was my review of the 3 and Y. There were mixed opinions on these vehicles on this subreddit and it looks like it all depends on the wheels you choose. The Model 3 with 18 and Model y with 20 is the way to go IMO if you want quiet and comfortable. As the 19 on both cars are inferior to the previously mentioned wheels. | 2021-01-12 01:58:10 | 69 | What tires would you swap the MY to? | 2021-01-12 03:00:55 | 9 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 13,489 |
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Why doesn t Tesla turn on the cameras that come with the FSD package for use with AP2? | This is just a hypothetical question and nothing sarcastic at all I just wonder what might prevent Tesla from turning on all of the unused cameras to make AP2 even safer smoother better for now? | 2017-07-31 03:15:19 | 12 | They re worthless unless the car meaningfully uses them and they aren t yet ready to use them. | 2017-07-31 03:19:22 | 15 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 23,479 |
testube - fullscreen entertainment options for your tesla | # Intro This project was born out of inspiration sparked by the TeslaTheater webapp. Kudos to that developer for the idea but I thought that I could make the experience better. By utilizing the Angular web framework and Material Design I think I have achieved that goal. ^(\_) By navigating to the site while in Park there is an option at the bottom of the page to launch in fullscreen. This brings you into the fullscreen theater mode that is usually reserved for just Netflix Hulu YouTube and Twitch. Once in Theater Mode you can choose any of the many services on the app and be brought right to it still in Theater Mode. ^(\_) The webapp is served through SSL on HTTPS so all traffic within it is fully encrypted. That being said I am not storing any user information anyway and any actions within the linked services (such as logging in) are done on their site and therefore not accessible to me. The project is totally open-source and the code is available publically at the Github repository linked below ^(\_) I will be continuously adding features because I am as much of a user as you guys will be. Please do let me know if you have any ideas on how to improve the project. If you don t want to wait for me feel free to become a contributor and create a pull request yourself! # Compatibility I only have a Model 3 and do not know anybody with a Model S or X. This should work on those but if the zoom level is odd on them please let me know. Tesla s browser has strange zoom levels view size when in theater mode which I had to account for. ^(\_) I also do not have subscriptions to all of the services linked within the project so I cannot confirm that they all 100% work on the Tesla browser. Please let me know if any of them give you problems. # Included Services |Streaming|Live TV|Personal|Gaming|Utility| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |YouTube|YouTube TV|PLEX|Twitch|Google Maps| |Netflix|Sling|Emby|YouTube Gaming|Waze| |Hulu|AT& T TV Now|Google Drive|mixer|ABetterRoutePlanner| |Disney+|Xfinity Stream|Dropbox|dlive|PlugShare| |HBO GO|fubo TV|iCloud||Tesla Account| |HBO NOW|tubi|OneDrive||Dark Sky Maps| |Apple TV+|Pluto TV|box||| |Crackle|philo|Google Photos||| |Curiosity Stream|locast.org|||| |CrunchyRoll||||| |VRV||||| |Funimation||||| |Shudder||||| |Hotstar||||| # Links ## Webapp: [https: testube.app](https: testube.app) ## Github Repo: [https: github.com arbitrarydot testube](https: github.com arbitrarydot testube) | 2020-01-26 17:32:54 | 81 | Would it be possible to add F1tv? https: f1tv.formula1.com Would be great to find an excuse on a Sunday afternoon to head out in the car and watch the race in peace! | 2020-01-26 18:38:42 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,536 |
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I strongly feel that people on here and TMC are distorting the interpretation of Elon Musk s not a weirdmobile description too far towards design conservatism or their own narrow aesthetic preferences. I think the actual meaning is more subtle but fundamentally different. | Far too often for my comfort I have been seeing this common attitude about weirdmobile meaning anything that looks non-conservative and or non-fantastic looking and more disturbingly failing a single person s very particular opinion on what they think what a non-weird-mobile should look like. Let s be honest be a little brutal here: By the above sorts of expectations it is going to be **practically impossible** given what we (sort-of) already know about the Tesla Model 3 for it to *not* be disparaged by someone who is disappointed it didn t *quite* live up to their own self-centred interpretation of not a weirdmobile . I believe the real meaning of what Musk said is closer to the *design intent* of the vehicle s design - because he is in all probability himself very frustrated at current EV s either having bad fairly logically deviant and less popular compliance designs or piggybacking on the same existing fossil fuel powered models (looking at you VW & Fiat). Although I personally have no doubt due to the excellent quality mind of a certain Mr Franz Holzhausen that the Model 3 will look fantastic... ...however I do think that as a ground-breaking electric vehicles at a price point *below* that of the Model S with *much less* available in terms of luxury capacity and performance there is unfortunately going to have to be a significant reduction of design conservatism especially considering the strongly rumored > 0.20 drag coefficient. I believe that Weird mobile is not so much a car that looks **unconventional in comparison** to other cars but rather a car where the design is **more random or gratuitously detailed** in comparison to often better-looking less randomly detailed designs. By random I mean talking about design features that obviously bear little relation to function and indeed this interpretation of weird-mobile is especially important given the functional consistency of the designs for the existing S & X models - the most arbitrary part of the Tesla Model S could easily be argued to be the front false grille which is not present in the X s design. This design difference between the S and the X I believe is particularly relevant to the potential results of people seeing the Model 3: e.g. The X *gains* in terms of design consistency but risks losing out slightly in terms of current design *expectations* - i.e. it s a feature popularly agreed to grow on people and reliably annoy them at the same time. TL DR Model 3 probably WILL be *relatively* weird in comparison to the current crop of automobiles and overwhelmingly in a good way. The definition Weirdmobile isn t dictated by your opinions - could we all try to be a little more realistic in our expectations on that subject? edit - typos. | 2016-01-22 18:31:01 | 13 | Considering how much griping there was about the X nose I predict a major shitstorm when the Model 3 doesn t happen to be the car equivalent of the Dr Who Psychic paper ID. A lot of people are going to be disappointed that it didn t match their brilliant design ideas for the 3. | 2016-01-22 18:44:23 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,203 |
SuperChargers around Nashville TN | I m passing through Nashville in an hour and the cars supercharger map shows all (5+) of them “temporary Closure) Can anyone confirm this? | 2020-12-25 20:10:47 | 8 | There was an explosion down town. | 2020-12-25 20:11:57 | 25 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,961 |
Is there any advantage to waiting to get a Tesla Model 3? | I m currently saving up to buy a house next year and was thinking of getting a Tesla Model 3 the year after that (2021). Out of curiosity would there be any advantages to waiting to get the Model 3 two or so years down the road? I was thinking maybe the price would come down perhaps the self-driving computer might improve there might be more color options etc. Would love to hear what y all think. | 2019-07-22 19:11:16 | 49 | Teslas improve constantly. House then car sounds like a good plan. | 2019-07-22 19:17:03 | 144 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,183 |
Tesla sued again for autopilot | So some guy in Florida is suing Tesla because his car crashed into the back of a stalled car on the freeway while in autopilot. While the fact that autopilot didn t detect this is a hit alarming it s not actually unheard of autopilot doesn t work well detecting stationary objects (versus objects that were moving and then slow down). It s a limitation of all self-driving implementations today and is an attempt to balance the need for a smooth and a safe ride. The ridiculous part is the guy says that he bought the car so he could get some work done during his 2 hour commute. Are sales people really telling people that s okay or are people just not willing to listen? The main argument in the suit is that Tesla says something very different to regulators than what sales people say. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in court. https: finance.yahoo.com news florida-man-sues-tesla-over-164118457.html | 2018-10-30 21:35:54 | 38 | Quite an ass since he admits he was looking at his phone at the time of the crash. Also curious that he s a GM of a Nissan dealership. Sure hope he loses. | 2018-10-30 21:39:37 | 118 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,354 |
NL price Model 3 : 58 800 € for AWD 69 700 € for Performance | TL DR: In the beginning only the long-distance and Performance versions of the Tesla Model 3 can be ordered. The so-called Long Range version with a 74 kWh battery and four-wheel drive has a price of 58 800 euros the Performance version costs 69 700 euros. & #x200B & #x200B [https: www.nu.nl auto 5612012 nederlandse-leveringsdatum-tesla-model-3-bekendgemaakt.html?redirect=1](https: www.nu.nl auto 5612012 nederlandse-leveringsdatum-tesla-model-3-bekendgemaakt.html?redirect=1) | 2018-12-05 10:36:36 | 79 | For [Austria](https: derstandard.at 2000093202482 Tesla-will-mit-Model-3-Auslieferung-in-Oesterreich-im-Februar): € 58.300 for AWD LR € 69.100 for Performance Deliveries announced for Feb 2019. (the price difference with Germany aligns with the VAT difference (19 vs 20%). | 2018-12-05 11:17:03 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,565 |
Was there ever a reply from the Whitehouse concerning the dealership franchise laws of the states? | A while back there was a We The People petition submitted to the whitehouse concerning state laws regarding the franchise dealership rules impeding Tesla s sales goals. As far as I know it reached the goal of 100k signatures. What was the result? Did the current administration ever weigh in on the conversation? Yeah I know the white house has no power to change the laws of the states but Im interested in their position. | 2013-10-10 16:19:48 | 16 | They haven t responded to any for awhile. | 2013-10-11 01:06:08 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,263 |
Referral Program End Date | Anyone know if plans are to continue the referral program after the June 2017 end date of the current program? | 2017-05-06 19:15:13 | 8 | They typically renew it but nobody knows about this time | 2017-05-06 19:23:15 | 3 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 16,280 |
Would anyone else like to see significant FSD visualization improvements prioritized? | The FSD visualization seems to be showing the instantaneous frame by frame interpretation of the world by the AI. While this is interesting to see from what I understand there are now many other layers of inference in the system including object persistence and likely position calculation before driving decisions are made. I think cleaning up the visualization of FSD would be hugely beneficial in instilling more confidence in the driver that the system better knows what the real world looks like. The current display with constantly flickering lines objects people locations is truly disconcerting - have you ever driven by a truck and seen how much the position of that truck jumps around in the display? Check out this visualization from Waymo as a comparison to know what I m talking about: https: www.youtube.com watch?v=O8TSA-X9UlU Some FSD examples for comparison: Lane lines jumping around: https: youtu.be qfKNMD8cm9o?t=595 Truck and people jumping and vanishing: https: youtu.be qfKNMD8cm9o?t=624 Cars and traffic dissapearing and appearing: https: youtu.be qfKNMD8cm9o?t=766 | 2022-10-07 18:58:07 | 31 | I think the current visualizations are an honest reflection of what the system is perceiving. Things like flickering visualizations reflect what the system is seeing from frame to frame and it is meant to disconcert you — the underlying data dumps we ve seen from green shows the exact same thing extremely wildly varying distance and bounding box estimates for B pillar truck detections. Waymo in particular seems to do a cartoon rendering along a fixed track. It sprinkles things it sees like cones but smooths over visualization data to look pretty. I am all for FSD making the renderings look better by actually improving perception. But right now especially in the beta what you re seeing is what the car is making driving decisions on. Smoothing it is more of an Ostrich solution than actually beneficial. | 2022-10-08 01:56:20 | 55 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 23,915 |
Toronto International Center Delivery Delay | I will preface this post by saying that I have always been and still am very pro-life Tesla. I have just been incredibly disappointed by my experience. I have had my delivery book for June 5th for about 3 weeks now. I have been back and forth with Tesla on all the financing and payment details many times without much issue. This evening around 6:30 pm I got a call from a local Toronto Tesla rep saying that unfortunately my delivery must be delayed until Saturday as my car has not yet arrived due to shipping delays. I explained to the rep that I was on the phone today with Tesla HQ confirming payment amounts and details and no one gave me any indication of the delay. I had also arranged to take the day off work my wife did as well. But the worst is that I sold my car this morning in anticipation of tomorrow s delivery. I am now without a car for the week. The Tesla rep offered only his apologies. I would now be spending at least a few hundred on Ubers for the week. While any delay would be a little disappointing I am quite frustrated at how Tesla handled this. If I was notified last week it would not have been and issue. But to be called at 6:30 pm when I have delivery scheduled for 11 the next day... That is ridiculous. He said he had a long list of calls to make so I expect that some of you will be getting a call as well. I would be interested to hear if anyone else got a delay. Should I request some sort of reparation from Tesla when I go Saturday? What do all of you think would be a fair request? Update: Tesla has arranged a car rental for me for the week covering all costs including gas. I am quite satisfied with this. | 2018-06-05 00:02:02 | 12 | I d had the same thing happen to me got a call the morning of my delivery day \(supposed to pick it up at 5pm\) and they said my car would be delayed by 2 days. On the plus side since all the paperwork was already done before hand I was able to walk into the pick up center and get seated with a rep in about 5 minutes rather than the 2 hour wait everyone else was queued in to. Honestly once you get your car you re not gonna care about reparations. Just be sure to ask any questions you may have inspect the car thoroughly and take the rep with you on a test drive around the building. I get that you sold your car but Tesla didn t force your hand on that. For all they know you could have 10 cars or you could have no car. | 2018-06-05 00:25:48 | 13 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 21,360 |
Getting rid of dashboard was a brilliant move | https: pbs.twimg.com media Ce7ljvdW4AMqZ4R.jpg:orig (picture from u TimStevensEng) I say this for multiple reasons: It reduces cost for now you don t have to put in a second LCD screen write all the software for it and assemble it in manufacturing. It simplifies manufacturing for right vs left steering wheels. So the important question is: What do we absolutely need the dashboard for in a electric vehicle? I think Elon got it right with ONLY the vehicle speed. Everything else I think the driver can afford to glance a bit farther to see such as the engine check light . In Model 3 it would be some sort of motor battery status screen. Remember there s no need for oil temperature and tachometer and such anymore and there s only 1 gear. The fact that the dashboard has a hood is a holdover from the old days where bright LCD screens didn t exist. In short I believe other manufacturers will follow suit and use a similar design as a cost cutting measure. If this helps keep the cost of the car @ $35k I m all for it. | 2016-04-01 07:47:10 | 9 | if they could get HUD with just a speed and navigation direction for next turn I would be soo happy and won t miss second display at all | 2016-04-01 08:07:27 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,193 |
Tesla s upcoming potential | I definitely feel like in next 5 years we could see a new refreshed design of Tesla s existing fleet of cars or even new lineup of ultra high tech and awesome looking interior like we see in the new EQS and Lucid Air. I love Teslas for their goal towards increasing sustainable transportation but now that they have created a lineup of cars that are affordable like the Model 3 and Y they could profit alot from creating something fresh and expensive even if it costs as much as Mercedes S-Class so they can use that profit to keep lowering cost of Model 3 and Y. For example the Cybertruck looks futuristic but in my opinion it lacks the futuristic design from inside like we see in EQS. I wish the truck came with luxury features like massage seats additional thigh extending seats like BMWs and Mercedes have to help offset leg stiffness after long drives. What do you guys think on this? Any thoughts on the interior upgrade needed. | 2020-08-14 01:05:39 | 7 | Why do the arm-chair Tesla fortune tellers always talk about refreshed designs? stop-trying-to-make-it-happen-its-not-going-to-happen.jpeg Pay attention. Tesla does things incrementally. New Model 3 s now have USB-C ports like Model Y was released with. Is this some big wholesale refreshed design? No. Even front and rear Model 3 seats have been incrementally improved from original builds. | 2020-08-14 02:42:07 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,251 |
Tesla Czech Republic | According to an article (in Czech :-) ) - http: www.hybrid.cz tesla-v-cesku-na-konci-roku-2018-oficialne-zalozila-sve-mistni-zastoupeni - Tesla has created a company in the Czech Republic on the 18th of December. This is not totally unexpected because there were some job offers on their page near Prague for some weeks months but it made me happy nonetheless. Let s hope the possibility to order Model 3 is getting closer! :-) | 2019-01-07 19:47:12 | 44 | I personally live in Florida and drive a Model S but my whole family is from CZ and I CAN NOT WAIT TO SEE THESE BEAUTIFUL CARS DRIVING AROUND CZECH 🇨🇿🇨🇿!! | 2019-01-07 23:12:42 | 7 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 18,489 |
For an additional $3k over the base price of a 90 kwh battery pack would you buy a 100 kwh pack? | What about 110 120 etc? at what point would you say it s not worth the added range capability? | 2015-09-18 00:55:28 | 12 | When my 85kWh gets to 8 years I ll consider getting the biggest battery they ve got going. Until then *shrug*. | 2015-09-18 02:50:40 | 15 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 6,823 |
[Future] Model S 95D will have 300 EPA rated miles if launched finally. | Just letting my thoughts fly for a moment. The current 90D pushed the 85D range up 6% from 270 to 286 miles. We only need 5% more range to get to 300 miles which was the initial goal of the Tesla Model S concept. For that we need a 95D (or maybe 96D) It will be of big value for Tesla to cross the 300 EPA mile mark. Marketing wise it just sounds so much better. I am betting Elon is in a hurry to get there. After that a 100D makes sense but they dont have to do it since the 300 mile claim will be good enough to stop chasing higher capacaties for a while. Still they have to go above 100 to push the Model X above 300 miles EPA. | 2015-10-29 02:08:00 | 13 | since the 300 mile claim will be good enough to stop chasing higher capacaties for a while. - I disagree. I think they should make ridiculous capacity model just to test what the market consider as enough . They did 40kWh and 60kWh versions and found that they are below lowest acceptable range for the most people. 70kWh seems low-end. Now lets find where is the high end where people would stop paying for higher capacity. Maybe it will be 300 miles maybe 500. Who knows? | 2015-10-29 07:10:56 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,052 |
6 months and 23k miles in - Model 3 LR AWD | Battery still estimates 310 miles after full charge. * 80% of charging done at superchargers (trips up and down east coast -I95) * Maximum charge set to 90% (except for 10 occasions -100%) * Battery currently at \~70.5KW usable (Whrmile \* distance traveled that is above 300 miles + left over miles \* Whrmile) & #x200B https: i.redd.it 30hfr2jm3v531.jpg | 2019-06-22 07:56:40 | 50 | The model 3 batteries are a beast | 2019-06-22 08:17:53 | 25 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 781 |
PSA: Voice commands can search your USB music | I know I m in the minority of people who listen to music off my USB stick but I like being able to repeat the songs I like without paying for Spotify and having it play without a data connection. When Voice Commands were first released I seem to recall it didn t search the USB database in any case it does now. & #x200B There s one specific song I listen to on repeat when I m cruising at night in my black-on-black M3 Bloom by Dye O it has a chill techno night vibe to it. I went an extra step and changed the metadata to a Tesla logo & changed the Artist Album to Tesla Model 3 then renamed the title to With The Night so when I say Play with the night it pulls up the song. & #x200B & #x200B https: preview.redd.it a8rgsm151k551.jpg?width=2100& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=460db0eb405b7e0f2f953e21bc9026b724ab1993 | 2020-06-17 23:25:12 | 31 | Is there guidance somewhere about how best to organize the music on the USB drive to make it most useable in the M3? Or do you have any recommendations how you do it since it seems to work well for you? Do playlists work? I am a Spotify guy now but I had a ton of MP3s all organized by artist> album> track in nested folders from iTunes. I dumped them all on the SSD I partitioned half for TeslaCam half for music. But I end up having zillions of folders and it seems laborious to go through. | 2020-06-18 04:43:58 | 3 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 14,939 |
TIL: Autopilot Lane Change varies with how you set the turn signal | (Not a Cybertruck post! 😄) Maybe this is old news but I ve never seen it so in case it helps anyone else... Ever since getting my Model 3 I d assumed the only way to do lane changes on Autopilot is something like this: 1. Press the turn signal *slightly* in the direction you want to merge just like you normally would for a manual lane change. 2. Keep holding the turn signal while the Tesla performs the maneuver. 3. Release when you re in the new lane. Or at least more than halfway there. Occasionally curse because you let go too soon and the car is swerving back to the original lane. But apparently you can also do it like this: 1. Push the turn signal all the way in the direction you want to. (Like you do when you want the signal to stay on while you sit at a stoplight or whatever.) 2. The Tesla keeps blinking the signal until it finds an opening executes and completes the maneuver. 3. There s no step three! < giddy Jeff Goldblum laughter> | 2019-11-24 22:45:56 | 70 | > (Not a Cybertruck post! 😄) Upvote | 2019-11-24 22:49:01 | 63 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 18,133 |
Long term high mileage ownership feedback | I currently do not own a Tesla but have been considering a used Model X. I came here to get some feedback on ownership as well as people s thoughts for the future based on the situation I m about to explain. I just started working a new position with a longer drive which sums up to roughly 20 000 miles per year in total mileage on a vehicle. These miles are almost exclusively highway (70-80 mph) miles. Thus increasing gas and regular engine servicing costs on my car. Here are my questions: - If I m putting 20 000+ miles on a vehicle per year what other savings besides gas can I expect when driving a Tesla as opposed to a standard car? Engine oil changes etc? - If I m putting 20 000+ miles on a Tesla per year how will this impact battery condition? I ve read on random sources of people putting 300 000+ miles and the battery is still over 90% original capacity. - If I m putting 20 000+ miles on a Tesla per year what does everyone think of potential resale issues in the future? If I were to assume I d keep it for 5 to 10 years and at some point consider replacing the battery depending on condition. Would this largely impact resale? I know this is a shot in the dark. I saw a 2017 Model X with 50k miles listed over $78k this was carmax but it s just an example I saw. I know it would probably be wise to get a beater car for the drive but that s not an option for me personally. | 2019-03-26 16:58:45 | 21 | I own a 2013 Model S (early Tesla) that I bought used in Jan 2016. Since owning it I ve put about 71 000 miles on it. Maintenance: tires. I switched from staggered 21 wheels to 19 wheels. I typically get about 30 000 to 35 000 miles on a set of tires and they cost me about $1000 to $1300 a set depending on current promotions. Battery: My max charge is now about 90% of the original capacity. I have just over 107 000 miles on the car. I ve also supercharged to 100% several times during road trips and that may have increased my wear more than average. Resell value: I think Tesla s innovation and drive to lower prices on new cars will hurt the resell value more than the usage of your car. My car still drives just as great as has as much power as the first time I drove it. It has more features than the day I bought it thanks to software updates. I don t have autopilot in my car but that will be an option for you. If you re regularly commuting 20 000 miles a year the autopilot features might be a huge help for your commutes and make them more relaxing. BTW I traded in a v8 car where I avg 16 mpg. I estimate my fuel savings in the past 3 years to be right about $10 000. That s not counting maintenance savings. | 2019-03-26 17:40:49 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,983 |
Feature request: More granular control of interior lights specifically the ability to turn on the trunk lights independently (Rear facing child seats) | Basically the topic. My eldest sits back there (my youngest isn t quite big enough yet) and he likes to read. I bought him his own battery powered light but the trunk lights would be enough except I can t turn them on independently of the rest of the interior lights. | 2018-01-30 06:01:04 | 21 | It would be great to have full control of all the dome lights independently instead of just on off auto. I don t have rear facing seats so I wonder where are your trunk lights located? Are you referring to the lights in the inside trunk wheel wells and the one on the hatch cover or do the rear facing seats light someway else? | 2018-01-30 08:29:31 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,519 |
EPA documents show how wheel size affects Model S X consumption. | Hi everybody. The EPA recently added a few more Tesla related documents to their website. 3 of them show the horsepower required to overcome the road load with different wheel options. [Here](https: i.imgur.com IxKHvxz.gif) is a screenshot from one of them. Here are links to the 3 documents (see page 5 on each file): https: iaspub.epa.gov otaqpub display_file.jsp?docid=39829& flag=1 < < Model X https: iaspub.epa.gov otaqpub display_file.jsp?docid=39827& flag=1 < < Model S RWD https: iaspub.epa.gov otaqpub display_file.jsp?docid=39828& flag=1 < < Model S AWD Using these numbers we can now compare the energy consumption of 19 and 21 Model S wheels or 20 and 22 Model X wheels. For example if you open the first file on page 5 for the Model X 75D it shows 12.49 HP required with 20 and 15.3 HP required with 22 wheels. That means 15.3 12.49 - 1= 22.5% more power required with the 22 wheels. Here are the numbers for all trim levels: * 4.9% more consumption for Model S P100D with 21 vs 19 wheels. * 5.2% more consumption for Model S P90D with 21 vs 19 wheels. * 11.6% more consumption for Model S 60 75 with 21 vs 19 wheels. * 11.8% more consumption for Model S 60D 75D 90D with 21 vs 19 wheels. * 22.2% more consumption for Model X P90D with 22 vs 20 wheels. * 22.5% more consumption for Model X 60D 75D 90D with 22 vs 20 wheels. * 23.3% more consumption for Model X P100D with 22 vs 20 wheels. The documents are from December 2016 but they were newly listed on the EPA website. If you open the search page [HERE](https: iaspub.epa.gov otaqpub pubsearch.jsp) select Tesla under Manufacturer and make a search the page used to show 43 search results. Now it shows 50. They regularly add more documents here. Edit 1: Check out the screenshot [here](https: i.imgur.com pqDtt3E.jpg). The Model X Design Studio used to say 10-15% less range with 22 wheels. Edit 2: A user [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6drkf6 19_vs_21_wheel_owners_have_you_tried_both_what di4v43u ) reports that his Model S P85 consumption is 335 Wh mi with 21 wheels and 290 Wh mi with 19 wheels. The difference in range would be 335 290-1= 15.5%. Edit 3: There is a Model X video [here](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=smrS0GbDh0I) that claims 23% difference between 22 and 20 wheels. Edit 4: The Model X rear tires are 10 mm wider with the 22 wheel option (285 mm instead of 275 mm). See page 5 on the EPA document. 20 wheels: 265 45R20 (F) 275 45R20 (R) 22 wheels: 265 35R22 (F) 285 35R22 (R) Troy | 2017-11-08 23:07:14 | 132 | Wow those 22 wheels really kill efficiency. I mean I knew they did but over 20%? I had no idea they were *that* bad. | 2017-11-08 23:12:20 | 34 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,774 |
Moving with Tesla | Ok here s a doozy for you! We have an order in for our Model 3 AWD Non-P. However my husband was just offered a job in the Middle East after retirement from the military. Obviously the easiest option would be to sell it before the move but we would love to take it with us. The issue is not the cost of shipping but rather the question of compatibility with overseas charging and maintenance. Any ideas? | 2018-08-05 14:34:40 | 18 | For example in the UAE all new Teslas will be European spec and new Tesla chargers being installed use the Mennekes Type 2 plug as the standard. There are some US spec chargers but I think those will be rare going forward. Tesla will not convert a US spec car. I would suggest not trying to ship it. | 2018-08-05 15:37:25 | 13 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 13,171 |
I want my first car purchase to be a Model 3 but I m unfamiliar with grown up stuff. Can anyone lend some advice? | So I m 24 live in Canada but I ve never purchased a car. I m an apprentice electrician currently living with my family (we re asian so it s pretty typical). I don t pay any utility bills aside from internet (~100 a month). I pay my own phone bill which is $50 a month. Those are the only bills I need to pay for the foreseeable future (probably at least 3-5 years). I m capable of saving ~$1500 - $2000 a month (setting aside ~$800 or so a month for personal spending). My student loans are completely paid off. What is the best option for buying a Model 3 when it comes out? Should I buy outright or finance? I m not familiar with the pros or cons of either option. I ve never been a car person but the Tesla electric cars have gotten me really intrigued so I m really excited for the upcoming Model 3. Thanks for any advice. | 2016-02-06 20:21:29 | 14 | You need to post this in r personalfinance. | 2016-02-06 20:27:20 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,283 |
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[Discussion] Where in the process of battery production is the CO2 being produced? | We all know the alleged study facing the CO2 emissions of E Cars done by the IVL. But where in the process of battery production is the CO2 being produced? | 2018-04-22 18:57:57 | 5 | From the literal thousands of diesel engines being used to pull the minerals and metals for the batteries out of the ground. | 2018-04-22 19:58:14 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,922 |
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It looks gorgeous | Holy smokes the new 3 looks nice. The front looks like a sharks nose. The navigation system is the best part of it. Looks to be around a 25 inch flat screen. | 2016-04-01 03:56:01 | 186 | Cross between a Porsche modern VW Beetle and a Model X | 2016-04-01 03:57:40 | 75 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,271 |
Did Tesla remove Expected Delivery Time for vehicles from their website? | I m no longer seeing estimated delivery timeframes on the custom order portion of the website? Are the potential tax rebates driving the removal of this? Lead times getting too long that it was turning buyers off? | 2021-11-02 02:30:21 | 17 | Check website on computer. I sometimes don t see it on mobile browser. | 2021-11-02 09:54:52 | 11 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 5,055 |
Less front wheel gap in newer Model 3? | I took delivery of my Model 3 LR a year ago and have been bothered by the front wheel gap quite a bit. It s definitely more pronounced than the rear. I ve been looking at Unplugged springs to fix it. However I ve noticed a lot of the newer model 3 have less gap in the front. Is this due to the additional motor weighing it down or did Tesla tweak the non performance suspension again at some point? | 2019-05-28 19:09:12 | 11 | Yes they lowered the front end I think mid 2018. | 2019-05-28 19:11:34 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,800 |
[Discussion] Since when does NOA understand HOV lanes? | Took a road trip last weekend and I was surprised that NoA switched lanes into the HOV lane. In my experience even manual AP lane changes would never cross a solid line. I had a passenger in the front so I was cleared for HOV but did the car know that? I m running 2019.8.5 on a Model 3 | 2019-04-29 23:50:18 | 5 | Might have know. All modern cars have passenger seat weight sensors to turn airbag on or off. No reason car couldn t be programmed to know when HOV lanes are enforced. In DC they are only rush hour. | 2019-04-29 23:57:38 | 7 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 24,738 |
Any possibilities for a 1-way Tesla rental in California? | We re doing a family vacation in August arriving in San Diego and flying out of San Francisco and I would give anything to be able to do that trip in a Model S or X. I understand that Turo only does local rentals (obviously) but didn t know if there might be something unique to California that would fit my needs (since there are so many Tesla s there). | 2017-06-13 15:20:18 | 9 | [Enterprise Exotics rents Teslas and will probably allow it since they have a SF location as well. It won t be cheap though](https: exoticcars.enterprise.com en vehicles tesla-model-s.html) | 2017-06-13 15:29:40 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,727 |
Sentry mode is cool but what if... | I was excited about sentry mode before I bought my model 3. But then it became obvious that a thief that knows anything about a Tesla could simply take the USB drive if they broke into the car. I was hoping for data to be stored in the car itself and not so easily accessible with just a thumb drive. How much longer until thieves know they can just take the video evidence with them? A USB port in the locked glove box would have been a better location. | 2020-06-13 21:13:26 | 10 | Car thieves tend to be on the lower end of the spectrum don t worry | 2020-06-13 21:18:39 | 53 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 16,994 |
Questions regarding Tesla M3 | Good morning everyone swiss fellow here. I ve always been a fan of EV vehicles and Tesla in general but in the last months I ve acquired some financial plus in my life and was contemplating the idea to switch from my first car (SEAT Leon 2013) to a Tesla M3 LR. I ve read a lot and I mean A LOT about Tesla in general and moreover on the M3. So I have a few questions that I would be grateful if a Tesla M3 User could actually help me with even better if he s Swiss as he knows about EV chargers and so on... Some background for info: I m 22YO (M) and I m an accountant. I live in an apartment and probably in 1 max 2 years I ll go to live together with my fiancee. 1)My biggest worry: range. I ll probably do 20-30 KMs a day for travelling from and to work + maybe 100 150 kms a week for groceries shopping friends etc... I m a 12k KMs year guy. The range of the M3 is set to 614KM which I know effective are probably 450? 500 max? My question is: if I ll be living in a rent and there will be no charger is it really that bad? Or I can live without it and charge it maybe in the weekends in a supercharger (the closest is like 20-30 mins)? 2)How does it feel driving? Does it really live up to the expectations? I read a lot of reviews some saying it s a bit too clunky and some saying it s the best car they ve ever driven. So I m a little bit lost here. 3)The display. I ve seen videos where the fludity of the display was in a very bad state like some iPad from 2010. Is it really the state of it or is it due to wrong use outdate? 4)Living in a not-so-big city there aren t a lot of EV chargers around: if I would be obliged to charge it every week at a Supercharger would it be a bad thing? wouldn t it be a nonsense considering I m leaving the fuel also for its price? 5)Wheels. I ve read somewhere that they worn out pretty quickly and they cost a lot as they re 18 . Is this true? 6)Engineering. I ve seen a lot of posts especially here on reddit where some users would receive the delivery and find some little manufacturing errors. Is it really that common or you have to be unlucky? 7)In general people who switched from Fuel to EV: is it really worth it? Not just for the price more like in general. Is it too early? Wouldn t it be better to wait a bit like 3-5 years? I ve finished. Sorry for the long post and thank you to anyone who will reply! | 2021-06-25 10:04:53 | 17 | Well this is a Tesla forum so you should be wary of potential bias. But here goes (Model 3 LR owner from germany) **Range:** At 20-30km a day the battery will last you about 10 days (since you will not be charging to 100% and also not be discharging to 0%). About 8 days in the winter. **Charging:** Having some place to charge at home or at work or at a local supermarket where you do your regular shopping is pretty essential. Unless you re really OK with taking some time out of your weekend to charge. If there s some place closeby to the charger where you can have a nice breakfast or do shopping then this may be bearable. If you have a fixed parking spot check with your landlord whether he ll allow you to install a charger yourself (it isn t *that* expensive and the gain in terms of comfort is *huge*) **Driving:** It s very good. Acceleration is nuts. Low center of gravity means it s well planted. But I m just a normal guy who drives to work and some trips and I don t do any racing. For me it s the optimal balance between utility and fun. **Display:** Works well and is fluid. I ve had no issues. From my perspective it s *way* better than in any other car. **Living conditions:** Check with your local assembly Rathaus. They are likely to have plans for future charging stations. Power vs. fuel price should be good considering that CO2 taxes will impact fossil fuels hard very soon. **Wheels:** There will be slightly more wear and tear. But not massively more so. **Engineering:** I have one of the early ones in Europe (march 2019) and I have had no issues whatsoever (not even panelgaps). In the end I d advise to go with a complete checklist to the handover. Mark down anything that isn t OK and get yourself an appointment to have them fix it. Just like with any other car. **Is it worth it?:** In one word: Yes. I m never going back to the age of burning stuff for motion. The only regret is that I couldn t get my hands on one sooner. (me = Happy Tesla customer) | 2021-06-25 15:46:26 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,009 |
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Update to Grammy with Cancer who had her Tesla delivered by Charlotte early (Good news!) | **Grammy s Tesla got her to Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston safely and with better news than expected! Things are looking up now that she s there and it looks like she s going to get to enjoy her Model 3 for a very long time and see many many updates 😉 (all thanks to Dana-Farber - things looked very bleak prior to her arrival to Boston - and now she s getting stronger every day!) 😁** Thank you all for the support and positivity. It has meant the world to her (& us her family)! **Link to Original Posts:** *Original Story:* [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dpsr7s tesla\_moved\_mountains\_for\_my\_grandma\_who\_is\_very ?utm\_source=share& utm\_medium=web2x](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments dpsr7s tesla_moved_mountains_for_my_grandma_who_is_very ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x) *Grammy on Delivery Day:* [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments drc0a2 for\_all\_who\_loved\_our\_story\_about\_how\_tesla\_moved ?utm\_source=share& utm\_medium=web2x](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments drc0a2 for_all_who_loved_our_story_about_how_tesla_moved ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x) | 2019-11-29 21:37:27 | 207 | So glad to hear she is doing better!! | 2019-11-29 21:49:03 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,797 |
How secure is the Tesla Model S? | Regarding hacking it makes you wonder how secure this car is that is 100% electric and relies on almost 99% electronics that is almost always connected to the internet. Has Elon talked about this or has Tesla spoken about the security of the Tesla Model S? | 2014-06-01 21:02:56 | 7 | Tesla hired experience hacker Kristin Paget (as well as many others) to secure the car. Here http: www.cnbc.com id 101400179 Not to mention you and Tesla can see where the car is anytime. Nothing I ve seen so far about control over steering brakes forced shut down etc. Also haven t heard anything about jacking the RFID to unlock but anything is possible I suppose. If someone gets your cell phone password or control of mobile app some other way they could turn on air lock unlock etc. Basically just don t be a dumbass with your phone and FOB security. | 2014-06-01 23:21:36 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,535 |
Changes from Tesla today. Higher prices now? | The new 70D is nice but I ve noticed that overall pricing across the line has gone up. The Sub-Zero package has gone from $750 to $1 000. The loan option is gone. Several new paint options. I don t know the difference in paint pricing I always looked at standard black. Executive Rear Seats are now $3 000 (I think they were $2 500 before.) The premium interior package has doubled in price. The tradeoff to this is the Tech Package has had many features removed and placed into the Premium Interior Package cutting the Tech Package (now also called just Autopilot Convenience Features price from $4 000 to $2 500. Rear facing jump seats I believe have gone up in price from $2 500 to now $3 000. Most interior and wheel options are the same price as before. Although Carbon Fiber interior might have dropped $500 to only $1 000. 21 standard wheels are no longer offered. Pano roof has dropped from $2 500 to $1 500. Anything else? I just priced out the car I ve been eyeing to buy and it s almost $8 000 more then it was yesterday. Kind of a bummer. edit Added some other changes double edit. I think I m noticing that the pricing has just been changed in how it s displayed also. Before it would list the cash price after federal and state incentives. Now it lumps those deductions along with a hypothetical 5 year $10 000 deduction for gas savings into the final price. The cash price is literally the straight up price for your selected options in total now so it seems higher. | 2015-04-08 17:16:48 | 9 | On the other hand the pano roof is now only $1500 instead of $2500. | 2015-04-08 17:59:28 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,750 |
Model Y Height | Hi everyone I currently drive a Chevy Equinox and I m trying to figure out how close the Model Y s height will be to my Equinox. I do alot of outdoor activities with my gf my golden retriever and her Aussie. My Equinox is the perfect size vehicle and I plan on making the Model Y my next car but can t find any real info on dimensions. Obviously I ve seen the cargo space on the Y which seems pretty adequate. Has anyone been up close to the Y and able to compare it to an Equinox or comparable vehicle as far as general size and or height? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! | 2019-06-18 14:33:22 | 7 | [This overlay of 3 and Y](https: i.redd.it awro4kaai9m21.png) was posted here a while back assuming the wheelbase is the same. So at least you can kind of get an idea using Model 3 was a starting point. Credit: https: old.reddit.com r teslamotors comments b1ddvy size_comparison_model_3_model_y_assumes_same | 2019-06-18 17:06:02 | 8 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 12,924 |
Model S: $1250 in door handle replacements in the past two years | All four of the door handles in my 2013 Model S have now failed outside of warranty costing me a total of over $1250 (even after some service center goodwill discount). Tesla has generally been fair about repairs but this seems excessive to me since it s obviously a design flaw in the early models and as an early adopter I feel like I m really getting punished here. (This has nothing to do with snow ice by the way as my car is always garaged nor is it a particularly heavy usage car... just a regular family vehicle.). Has anyone else seen this failure rate in their early model car and have you tried appealing to Tesla about it? | 2019-01-30 17:59:34 | 35 | You don t have to pay that OP. Either fix them yourself or pay someone to fix them for you. 95% of the problems can be solved by buying $1-$20 worth of parts. | 2019-01-30 21:20:09 | 38 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 12,722 |
Mazda CX-5 Signature vs Model Y | I know it might be kind of silly to come to a Tesla subreddit and ask if another car is a better buy than a Tesla comparable but hear me out. I have a 2014 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring and it has overall been a great car. When it came to researching compact SUV s for a family especially a luxury one the Model Y in my mind won over the Audi Q5. But I just found out that Mazda has an interesting trim to their lineup called the Signature edition and apparently it comes with a slew of safety and smart driving features. From what I can tell it s at a solid Level 2 autonomous driving maybe even reaching to level 3 though I am probably ignorant saying that. I am looking for a smart safe car for my family and I obviously loved the Model Y for offering that and the fact that with FSD it could actually reach Level 5 autonomy. What I don t love is the price at almost $60k compared to the Mazda s $38k. At $38k Mazda packed in a lot from features to comfort engine and luxury. That $22k difference is nothing to sneeze at but I know that price differences gets cut by several thousand dollars over the years due to gas & maintenance not to mention the depreciation rate on Model Y being lower than the Mazda. I know other members who have or have had a CX-5 and loved it so I was hoping to hear from the communities thoughts on what I d be missing from the Model Y or why a CX-5 may not be all up to snuff. Thank you! Edit: I got the Model Y. Wow | 2020-12-27 02:03:10 | 8 | My wife and I recently traded our 2016 Mazda CX-5 for a new Model Y. I don t have experience with the Signature trim ours was a Grand Touring. There is no comparison between the two. You didn t mention performance the Model Y blows the Mazda out of the park. I just checked out the Mazda website and I see no mention of autonomous driving. Closest thing you get is radar cruise control. Tesla will steer for you. Mazda will not. Another huge benefit to the Tesla is the free software updates delivered over wifi. In 5 years with my Mazda the only updates I got had to be installed by the dealer after I begged for bug fixes forget about new features. | 2020-12-27 02:19:21 | 21 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 11,407 |
$1000 Model 3 deposit on 1st day with no email intro | Has anyone else had any issues or can direct me to where who I should contact at Tesla? I was one of the first in line on Day 1 at the Santa Monica brick and mortar location. My card was charged for the deposit but never received the Model 3 intro email...thinking they had my email incorrect. Just don t want to miss out on configuring if they are contact via email. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance! | 2017-07-07 02:16:02 | 9 | OK go to MyTesla and log in and see if you see the car in your account. If you don t well then you can start to freak out. | 2017-07-07 02:32:39 | 33 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 97 |
Buying a M3 in Michigan | I ve been looking to buy a M3 for sometime now and that time has finally come but this is my first new car purchase and I m having a hard time getting a exact cost amount. When I buy the car I know I add the purchase tax amount what other fees do I have to include? Any Title or registration fees? Any ev fees? I really just need the total dollar amount please! Thanks in advance! | 2020-12-27 10:19:23 | 6 | If you re SE MI you can pick up at Clarkston now. When I picked up there was no in-Michigan locations allowed. They added destination fee (already on the contract before delivery) and then later went to a MI SOS to pay the tax lady and switch from the Ohio temp plates to MI. If I remember right registration is ~480 (per year) with the EV tax. I assume they have a setup with SOS to get you the tags at pickup now. | 2020-12-27 14:23:00 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,137 |
My car was hit while parked and Sentry Mode dropped the ball. Teslacam flash drive only as 1kb files that cant be read. | My Model 3 was hit today while I was parked in a parking structure for a few hours. Sentry Mode was active when this happened and it reported 2 events when I returned to the car. I tapped the camera icon on screen and pulled the drive to check the footage. There are multiple folders with todays date but every file inside is only 1kb and cannot be viewed. Windows media player and VLC say the files are corrupted. They dont even have thumbnails. In the past sentry mode has set the car alarm off multiple times without anything actually happening to the car. But when the car gets hit the system appears to have not reacted at all. No notifications no usable footage. If data sharing is enabled does Tesla upload backup footage in any way? Has anyone had problems with Teslacam sentry mode saving corrupted files? I checked previous folders that where saved on the drive and all of them appear normal and can be viewed and there is still 100+gb of space available. The only thing I can think that would have caused this issue would have been the update to 2019.24.4 that I did the day before. | 2019-07-27 23:41:04 | 40 | I too would like to know the situation on uploads. | 2019-07-27 23:51:56 | 16 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 13,368 |
One and a half years ago “things were looking quite different” | Approximately one and a half years ago I posted [this video of Steve Jobs](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments btkwc4 steve_jobs_on_the_press_and_stock_price_at_wwdc ) which this sub seems to have liked and *ex post* I have to say this was more accurate than I though. What are your thoughts? To me as a long-time believer (and stock-holder) I am more excited than ever to see how much progress this company is making. 2021 sure is gonna be exciting so happy new year everyone! | 2020-12-31 22:37:35 | 24 | I hope all those people who were in at 200 held. | 2020-12-31 22:42:30 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,357 |
Summon connection issues are awful. | I consistently get disconnected errors when using summon to back my Model 3 into the garage. I have had the car over a year now and have probably only successfully summoned without disconnects maybe 2 times. I just tried again on 2020.24.6.4 and had to try about 20 times before it finally worked. It typically goes like this: * Stand in the garage about 12 ft from the car using a Pixel 3xl * Open the Tesla app and go to summon screen. * Summon buttons typically show up quickly * Press and hold the reverse button. * Mirrors fold in and summon immediately disconnects * Release reverse button and wait for it to show up again. * Repeat previous two steps several times * Eventually the car moves but disconnects after moving a few feet It generally takes me at least 12 - 20 attempts before it finally works. It s been bad since I got it but today was really frustrating because it seems to have gotten worse lately. It would be a very useful feature for me if it worked I just wish it worked. Does it work fine for others or is it like this for everyone? Edit: It seems the WiFi quality right outside my garage was weak enough to cause problems with summon. Added a wifi extender to the garage and things work much better. (Still have a disconnect but it seems to be limited to one now) | 2020-07-04 17:16:47 | 56 | Guess there is a bug right now where summon will always disconnect on the first attempt. To be fixed soon™️? https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments hjq9nw 5_mph_setting_coming_back_soon_for | 2020-07-04 18:25:08 | 9 | Issues with Smart Summon | 17,921 |
Most practical use for Bioweapon Defense Mode... honestly! | OK for those of us with the newer Teslas with the Bioweapon Defense Mode (BDM) when do you actually use it? Yes I find that it works well when you are following a nasty ICE but I have yet to encounter a biological weapon of mass destruction and hope to never do so! I find BDM most useful when I need to how shall I say need to sterilize the internal cabin air after a family member has released their own biological weapon (usually the silent but deadly variety). I find that the burst of air and recirculation through the HEPA and carbon filter work amazingly well! | 2017-06-15 03:51:54 | 21 | Also good for clearing the air after hotboxing | 2017-06-15 04:39:52 | 34 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,140 |
Photos of Model 3 under front and rear bumpers | Drove by a Tesla body shop on my way home tonight and there was a Model 3 parked outside on a public street with the front and rear bumper covers removed. Hopped out and took a bunch of photos. As someone that had to figure out how to take a Model X bumper myself once I figured these could be helpful to someone someday. Also interesting to see whats under there. [https: imgur.com a rxUiFP6](https: imgur.com a rxUiFP6) | 2018-09-21 05:54:56 | 21 | For some reason that s painful to look at. | 2018-09-21 05:58:29 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,177 |
Cannot Unload Cars because of Dead Batteries | TL DR: My new Model S is stuck on a train in Chicago with no ETA for delivery. My wife and I ordered a brand new Model S 75D on Aug 1 and selected the earliest delivery date available option (Late Sep Early Oct). According to our My Tesla account the car began production on Aug 28. I was excited to see that it actually took 4 weeks for production to begin because it meant we ended up with the new radar sensors in AP 2.5. Side note- Kind of a downer that AEB is disabled on the new hardware but hopefully that will be enabled soon. After entering production I received a phone call from my delivery specialist saying that the car should arrive at the showroom on the week of Sep 4. I was surprised to hear that from order to delivery was only going to take about a month. Well that ended up not being the case. A few days after entering production my Tesla account showed an estimated delivery date of Sep 16-30. I called my DS and he confirmed that the car would now be arriving on Sep 16 and we could pick up our Model S on Sep 19. Around 4pm on Sep 18 I was notified via email by my DS that our Model S was currently stuck on a rail car in Chicago and he is now unsure on when it will be delivered. I called him yesterday to get a better explanation of what is going on. Basically Tesla ships the cars from the west coast to Chicago via rail and then (at least in my situation) the cars are then loaded onto a truck to be driven to my showroom. He described the train cars as being in groups of six train cars with about 10 Teslas per car. The train cars create a sort of tunnel where you drive the cars all on then drive them off the other side. Apparently during the shipping process multiple cars lost all of their charge and are currently stuck on the train. Because of the “tunnel” no other cars can be taken off until the ones with dead batteries are removed. Yesterday he told me a team was currently in Chicago and working on a plan to get all the cars off the train and that my car should be here by Friday. However after talking with him today the team is still having issues removing the cars and now he is unsure of when I may be receiving my car. I am not upset with my DS as he has been very helpful with me throughout this process but I am wondering a couple of things. 1. Has anyone else had a similar issue to this (car being stuck in Chicago)? 2. If so why does Tesla not put more of an initial charge in the vehicles before sending them out for delivery? I understand they don t require a full charge but surly charge them enough to not cause the delay. Again this post is not meant for me to complain more just a chance to vent and query other Tesla owners. My wife and I are just very excited for our car. Thanks for your help! | 2017-09-20 21:45:58 | 34 | Sounds like a batch of bad 12 volt batteries not the main traction battery. Or bad contactors so the DC to DC wouldn t work. | 2017-09-20 22:05:56 | 19 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 3,648 |
Let s talk about the «Tesla mindset» 😬 | Hey everyone I m a huge Tesla fan and what strikes me the most is how similar the people who re buying Tesla cars are. I mean pretty much everyone I know who have one are also tech\-focused guys I would say almost futurist one behavior that we don t see in any other car company or a product in general. It s interesting to see how the people are targeted naturally… Am I the only one that noticed that ? Tesla owners here on Reddit are you feeling the same way ? Anyway hope that I ll be able to join the family one day 😅 | 2018-06-13 09:38:14 | 21 | In a nutshell Tesla owners are smart successful savvy and sexy. edit ... and also have huge dongs | 2018-06-13 13:23:38 | 53 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,849 |
When is SCTY Q3 earning release? | What time today is solar city Q3 earning. Google Finance has today listed but i don t a UTC time? http: www.google.com finance?q=NASDAQ:SCTY& sa=X& ved=0ahUKEwjmxrOmgPzPAhXlA8AKHYoMDq0Q2AEIDDAA | 2016-10-27 22:16:24 | 8 | They are not reporting today. Google finance is just an estimate. Check SolarCity s investor s website for the official information. | 2016-10-27 22:54:15 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,121 |
Suggestions for Birthday Surprise | I m surprising my wife with a new Model X for her birthday in a couple weeks. Aside from a large bow on top what have you done (or what ideas do you have) to enhance the gift-receiving experience? (BTW I have a Model S so she s familiar with the majority of the Tesla experience so I m looking for ideas other than features of the car.) | 2020-09-14 10:27:35 | 27 | Park the Model X in a random parking. Pretend that you and her have to run and errand. While on the errand drive by where the Model X is parked and make up some story about it. Another idea which might require someone to help you out park the X in a restaurant parking lot that you plan to take her out to (assuming you re comfortable with going out to eat). When you come out take her to the Model X but play it off like you went to the wrong car. But at this point the lights will come on. Try sneaking the key into her purse. If you don t care to make it splashy what if you parked the X where you normally park the S but don t say anything and just let her discover it. Good luck let us know how it turns out. | 2020-09-14 10:37:24 | 42 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,901 |
Any Tesla owners with disabilities visual impairment here? | I have a rare eye condition where basically I can t see very well(like barely can see) in my right eye for reference. I ll be able to drive soon and my parents were interested in a tesla for safety reasons(a used one and I m paying for almost half of it). I m just looking to see the experience of other Tesla owners with disabilities in general visual impairment! Any features you use a lot recommend specific option? Or just anything about driving the car! | 2020-08-21 03:41:48 | 24 | Not really relevant to your queation but it s so weird to me imagining young people having their first car be an electric one these days! | 2020-08-21 07:53:26 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,633 |
Thinking of getting Tesla solar panels. Have some questions. | I ve been doing some research about getting solar on my house. The current tax credit would allow me to get 30% of the total cost of the system. My company also has a $500 credit for installing solar. I have a Model 3 and thinking of getting another electric vehicle for my wife soon. We live in Florida so the weather is perfect for it and having electric vehicles also works great with solar. Now I do have some questions: 1. How are Tesla systems in general? As far as quality and reliability over time. 2. What happens if I sale the house? Can I transfer the system or does the new owner take over the loan? 3. Any maintenance costs? 4. I plan on getting 2-3 systems. Can I give a down payment to lower my monthly bill? They currently have a 0 down promotion but I want to give something. 5. Is the powerwall necessary? We get a lot of hurricanes and power outages here but I m not sure if it s worth the cost. Thanks! | 2019-06-10 15:11:45 | 30 | IMO solar panels are a commodity and Tesla has no competitive advantage there. If I was you I would compare it to a few local installers. In my case the only advantage tesla had was the monitoring in the same app as my tesla. Powerwall only makes sense if you don t qualify for net metering or if you want it for backup. | 2019-06-10 15:20:43 | 30 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 21,008 |
Model 3: 5% more power and 6% lower price across the board | > We re also excited to announce that we re implementing a number of firmware upgrades for both new and existing customers. These upgrades will increase the range of the Long Range Rear-Wheel Drive Model 3 to 325 miles increase the top speed of Model 3 Performance to 162 mph and add an average of approximately 5% peak power to all Model 3 vehicles. [https: www.tesla.com blog 35000-tesla-model-3-available-now](https: www.tesla.com blog 35000-tesla-model-3-available-now) **Rejoice existing Model 3 owners!** \- Through an upcoming firmware upgrade it will uncork \~5% more power at peak. For the LR RWD owners you ll also receive +15 mi range (+5%) as well. **Rejoice future Model 3 owners!** \- The car now costs on average 6% across the board after the new price adjustments. & #x200B The software upgrade is slated for March 15 2019 according to Elon s tweets: * [@elonmusk](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1101256596758257664): Scheduled for March 15 release along with many other improvements * [@elonmusk](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1101259318920278017): Should be \~5% peak power increase with March 15 software release Edit: Added software update date. March 15 2019 would imply software release code of 2019.11.X | 2019-02-28 23:55:02 | 57 | I feel like the 0-60 should be lower for the LR AWD then. | 2019-03-01 00:03:14 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,464 |
Model 3 Paint Bubbles (Normal?) | Hello. I just received my Model 3 recently and found these bubbles in several spots along the joint under the hood and trunk. Although I couldn t find them in 3 other non-Teslas that I had looked at the delivery specialist said that this is normal for Tesla. Does anyone see the same in their vehicles? Thanks in advance r teslamotors. https: i.redd.it 4ifqr32bvf231.jpg | 2019-06-05 01:14:16 | 6 | My Sept 2018 TM3 had many very bad paint flaws: from orange peel and dead spots in the finish to lumpy contamination and even over-spray left on glass when they tried to correct it before delivery. My relatives run an Automotive Body Shop so I never hear the end of their critiques. They were not impressed when I showed them my (then) new car. Had hoped Tesla had figured out how to paint their cars by now.... | 2019-06-05 02:19:35 | 6 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 11,861 |
What s your average loss when parked? | I never really paid attention to it but since I left it parked not charging I was checking my app while traveling and noticing about 2-3miles every 8ish hours. | 2016-10-25 11:01:33 | 21 | Unless you are having some crazy temperatures a parked Tesla should not be draining that much power. Try putting your car in power saving mode. I cannot plug in my car at my home and use power saving mode. Don t check your app every hour ). I would assume its wakes your car up hence drawing more power. Also my power drain is less then a mile a day. | 2016-10-25 13:33:03 | 11 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,950 |
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Tesla Considering Making Ventilators | [https: www.forbes.com sites alanohnsman 2020 03 19 elon-musk-says-tesla-willing-to-make-ventilators-for-coronavirus-patients-amid-flap-over-california-plant-operations ?utm\_source=TWITTER& utm\_medium=social& utm\_content=3210911116& utm\_campaign=sprinklrForbesMainTwitter#14fca9e6843d](https: www.forbes.com sites alanohnsman 2020 03 19 elon-musk-says-tesla-willing-to-make-ventilators-for-coronavirus-patients-amid-flap-over-california-plant-operations ?utm_source=TWITTER& utm_medium=social& utm_content=3210911116& utm_campaign=sprinklrForbesMainTwitter#14fca9e6843d) | 2020-03-19 15:34:16 | 12 | Tesla won t make any ventilators. | 2020-03-19 15:49:11 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,474 |
Extended Test drive | Has anyone been able to secure an extended test drive of the model S? I m in the process of shopping for a new car and my options are the M4 RS5 and the Model S. BMW has allowed me a weekend test drive and Audi lent me a loaner for 24hrs while I had my car in. Would love to try the tesla for more than 15 minutes to see if charging would be a hassle for me. Thanks. | 2015-04-21 03:07:44 | 17 | Definitely worth just asking the sales reps they re usually pretty lenient. As for it being a hassle if you have a garage or a place you can plug in when you re parked at home or work it s super easy. Just plug it when you get out of the car and never worry about it again until you take a roadtrip in which case the car will route you through chargers and tell you how long you have to stop for and will ping your phone when the car has enough juice to go on. Fun stuff. But yeah ask the sales reps | 2015-04-21 03:14:08 | 9 | Tesla test drive experiences | 6,171 |
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