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Will Model Y be available for lease? Pros and cons? | I m looking to get a Model Y when they come out but it doesn t show a lease option yet on the site. Did anyone hear about this having a lease? I m deciding pros and cons of leasing vs buying with this new hardware tech that gets updated and replaced so fast. I feel like the car would be outdated by 3 years resale might suck instead of just leasing a new one. Thoughts? Super excited to ditch my BMW 540 and get one! My lease is up in a year. Does anyone know if they will buy my last few months out? Anyone have a good experience? | 2020-01-07 04:38:53 | 22 | Leases will probably be just as shitty as Model 3 leases and probably still have the no buyout provision. Buy it. | 2020-01-07 09:33:10 | 15 | Tesla Lease Experience Considerations | 23,626 |
What German cars should I compare a Model S with? | Hi I havn t owned a car for some time and Its time to buy something. I really like the model S I have taken it for a test drive but really I should compare some other comparable cars. So what are they? I know they are likely not to be EV but I think I would be mad to not have a look. Would anyone like to suggest what I should also look at? | 2017-10-28 20:56:28 | 11 | BMW 5-series 6-series Audi A6 A7 Mercedes E-class CLS-class Porsche Panamera if you want to go that route. [Basically what Elon says.](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 845282298291339267?lang=en) | 2017-10-28 21:10:10 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,432 |
Calif HOV CAV Carpool stickers decals whatever.... | On the 61st day of not getting anything in the mail and with much anger brewing each day I become one with the mighty parking lot that is the 405 I took the big step of calling the DMV to pose the inquiry of whether my application has dropped into the abyss. To my fellow kindred ones who is on the verge of going ballistic I d like to share with you my information that I have learned... * Don t call them unless it s at least 60 days since you ve mailed it in. * DMV (Ca) opens at 8am but at 9am on Weds (please don t ask me how I know....) * The indicator of your $22 cashed check may not post in your account for a few days. * Phone will disconnect you with the blah busy blah blah please try again so you just have to try again. * You have to call the right number not the regular 800 line so save yourself a few good hours for nothing. * I don t know if there is a restriction on posting phone numbers so please DM me for the 916 number that deals with this stuff. * Use the callback service and be ready with the license plate or VIN make model and your name when they do call you back in a few hours. I did just this a few days ago and sure enough the guy says it s already processed a few days back and the check posted that every night. Because I have not received mine yet I restrained myself from asking if the delay was due to the shortage of gold for the embedded lining. & #x200B Good Luck & #x200B | 2019-03-21 15:19:32 | 12 | The fact that we have to send in a paper form and a fucking check like it s 1973 is ridiculous. | 2019-03-21 16:04:04 | 11 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 3,311 |
What was your experience with post-delivery service? | I found a few small exterior issues with my car after Tesla Direct delivery - one (smaller-than-dime-sized issue) that might need a day in the body paint shop to fix. I was able to call my delivery specialist and he took down these notes and asked me to schedule a mobile service appointment (coming on Aug 2nd) and also mentioned that Tesla tries to rectify these things within 60 days of delivery. The issues weren t really fussing over and rejecting delivery for. I was really excited to see the car see that 99% of the paint was excellent and that everything was straight. Happiest that there s no annoying rattles as my last new car (07 VW) was rattle city. How has your experience been with taking care of small issues post-delivery? | 2019-07-26 16:17:46 | 17 | I ve had my car for just over a year. Lots of annoying rattles now. Service center wasn t able to fix any of them. I ve resorted to fixing them myself. I expected the rattles due to it being a first model year - I didn t expect the service center to not be able to fix them. | 2019-07-26 16:23:09 | 9 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 23,013 |
What s the likelihood of Tesla NOT releasing a CHAdeMO or CCS adapter for Model 3 in North America? | Asking for this sub s opinion on this. Is there enough demand for CHAdeMO or CCS adapter for NA Model 3 for Tesla to actually offer one? I live in condo with no garage or assigned parking & unlikely to get chargers installed. Live 3 miles from work & can charge for free there (but only 2 chargers). The nearest supercharger is ~ 20 miles away. I do have other options within 5 miles - a library & strip mall both offer free L2 charging and 2 Sheetz with EVgo DC fast charging. DC fast charging would probably be the most convenient option. Will probably buy a Model 3 right now if it s very likely for an adapter to be released soon (3-6 months). | 2019-06-19 11:03:26 | 17 | I thought there was a report that it was coming soon to Model 3. They even accidentally listed the adapter in the Tesla store. My guess is weeks to months but before end of year. | 2019-06-19 11:29:11 | 13 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,919 |
When to buy | I am on the verge of buying a Tesla to replace my CLS 550. I m torn between 4 options Used New S and Used New X. In either case I want the performance options and would like autopilot self driving. What s the downside to getting a 2016 2017 model? The used prices are decent at this point. Are there any sales coming on new models? New tech I should wait for? | 2019-12-29 06:28:34 | 9 | Buy for the new tech future proof yourself for the next ~2 years buy end of quarter. | 2019-12-29 07:21:14 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,146 |
[Suggestion] Tesla should use navigation data to route you away from superchargers that have a high level of inbound traffic. | I m sure many of us are on road trips this week. If you re like me your Tesla navigation may have routed you to a completely full supercharger. I watched this supercharger for two hours as I approached and it remained full the entire time. Luckily I was paying attention and decided to stop 40 miles earlier at a supercharger that was nearly completely empty. I m sure most Tesla owners aren t paying attention to this and are just driving where the car tells them to. Tesla should be able to anticipate supercharger usage using navigation data from the fleet. For example once your car routes you to a supercharger it should send the ETA to Tesla. If the station is busy and there are a large number of inbound cars the navigation should give you a warning that there may be a wait and offer you alternative options. It seems this would better spread out supercharger usage. | 2018-12-23 22:08:12 | 89 | All routes point out of California... This is not a great idea as there s only one supercharger on my route... if I have to stop I have to stop. | 2018-12-23 22:38:51 | 26 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 25,222 |
Model X - how to get more front seat overhead lighting at night? Possible to tint upper glass for more sun protection? | My parents recently got a Model X and we ve all experienced two annoyances so far. At night there is very little front seat lighting to light up the center console. There s the screen but it aims up and is in black mode at night. I kinda feel like that conduit strip on the roof is a missed opportunity to add an LED strip of some sort to shine down. & #x200B During a sunny day the sun still pierces through the overhead glass. The flip down visor helps but I end up having to adjust my head as I make turns to avoid the sun. Considering putting some tint film up on top is this something that s commonly done? & #x200B & #x200B | 2019-03-09 16:33:50 | 12 | In the night you can flip down the visor and open the mirror. Just recently discovered this | 2019-03-09 17:10:06 | 13 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 12,743 |
Model X vs Model Y real-world highway range? | So the Model X is listed at 351 miles and the Model Y at 316 miles. What is the real-world (70 mph) highway range of each vehicle? I believe that the Y has a supercharging speed advantage so it should be faster on long road trips outside the battery range too right? | 2020-09-01 11:39:34 | 28 | Driving flat roads at consistent 70mph I can get exactly the EPA rated range out of my 2017 X100D so about 290 miles. Driving at 65Mph I can get maybe 330miles | 2020-09-01 12:55:11 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,871 |
Model 3 2021 SR delivery? | Hi all I am new to this. I just ordered my tesla M3 last week and my estimated delivery date which used to be Dec 20-31 has now disappeared. What does this mean? Anyone else on the same boat? I am in Ca Bay area Update: just got my estimated delivery date once again and it now says Dec 22-31! | 2020-12-11 22:43:15 | 8 | The account page does weird things. My advice would be to wait for the text. You will get your car before the end of the year. I drove an sr+ all last year and I loved it. Congrats. | 2020-12-11 23:19:03 | 6 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 11,595 |
How does Tesla Autopilot deal with traffic light sensing? | A few days ago a few questions came to my mind how efficiently can the front camera s detect the traffic lights? How do they work when it is snowing or foggy or rainy or if there is truck in front of the car? Does the current Autopilot system detect traffic lights at all? If not how does Tesla plan to implement this in the future? | 2016-09-19 14:35:38 | 7 | No they currently don t do that and I doubt that they ever will with this hardware suite. Just guessing on the second part. | 2016-09-19 14:38:16 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,210 |
Meta post: just want to give praise to new mod u 110110. | The housekeeping improvements you ve done here is outstanding. Check out the Links News and Rules section. Especially like the discretion warning regarding low-quality bait links from churn sites. Do you sleep? | 2016-11-04 16:06:07 | 64 | The entire mod team is fantastic! | 2016-11-04 16:26:50 | 20 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 11,431 |
Tesla model 3 buyout | I leased a Model 3 and I would like to buy it out. When I go to manage my lease it says lease buyout not allowed however it seems their is a option to sell it to a third party dealer. Is their any disadvantage to having it sold to third party dealer and me buying it off him? | 2021-05-07 11:34:15 | 21 | Not to be harsh but you really should have read through your contract assuming you are in the US. You cannot buyout the lease and adding FSD you literally pissed away cash. | 2021-05-07 14:09:14 | 93 | Tesla Lease Experience Considerations | 20,012 |
Tesla model 3 in Tilburg factory (unconfirmed) | Hello! A coworker on my next to college job was invited into the Tesla Tilburg factory through his automotive study(we re from the Netherlands). He doesn t know that much about Tesla but he told me he got to tinker fiddle with their what they called prototype car . After I asking him about the interior door handles size and making sure it wasn t the roadster s x and showing him a picture of the 3 he said: jup that s the one . So even though I have no evidence to provide to you guys. I can only say that I believe him and that I ll see if he can send me a screenshot of his invitation. **edit** I just spoke to my colleague. He said that they also showed them (him and the other students) a new way of charging prototype around the topic of self charging. Unfortunately (I get his point) he s requested that I don t say anything else on the topic including evidence (yes he showed me proof) because they weren t really allowed to say anything (some sort of NDA). He s afraid that revealing any proof in here will get him in trouble. I get that this doesn t make the whole thing more believable and I respect everyone who thinks I m making this up. So this post remains unconfirmed. Sorry for that guys. | 2017-06-28 09:33:00 | 77 | Could be true. The RDW the [national Dutch authority for vehicle approval](https: www.rdw.nl sites TGK Englishversion Paginas default.aspx) is quite popular with smaller car manufacturers for getting EU type approvals. That could be the reason for a Model 3 residing in Tilburg. Edit: [Tesla has used RDW for EU type approval before](http: blog.kenteken.tv 2016 08 12 typeapproval-database-indicates-release-tesla-p100d ). | 2017-06-28 09:44:13 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,013 |
Start saving now for your new CyberTruck | Crosspost from r CyberTruck failed... Like many others I would love to own the CT but reality struck me like a steel ball. How much will it cost me per month if I finance? Or how much should I start saving for a down payment? Could I actually save enough now and pay in full by the time they re being built? First best option: be rich and pay cash. Second best option: start saving now and full pay when it comes out (assuming Jan 2023 delivery date) Third best option: pay 20% down and finance the rest. There are lots of other options depending on your situation but this is what I came up with. Rounded sales tax up to 10% so you can adjust yours as necessary. Hope someone finds this useful- I m a spreadsheet amateur so forgive any errors and am welcome to feedback! Also realized did not include Federal Tax and other incentives but am not sure those will be here in 3 years? [CyberTruck budget](https: i.imgur.com c243fD1.jpg) | 2019-11-29 03:51:31 | 25 | Just FYI good way to get rich is to not buy an expensive car. | 2019-11-29 03:53:38 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,740 |
Towbar discussion | I have been googling like mad but can t find anything other than aftermarket options for Model 3 towbars - which if I read correctly will void the drivetrain warranty. I m a cyclist so as Tesla is not yet making a pickup truck a towbar is a must have! Can anyone contribute (current) knowledge as to this issue? & #x200B Purely out of interest does the same situation apply to a Model S? I ve seem some posts indicatethat Model S can have a towing package ? Not sure if that s correct or not. | 2018-12-12 02:50:50 | 14 | A lot of s and 3 owners use the eco hitch by torklift. I have it installed on my s and it is no drill and disappears when not in use. Towing vs carrying a bike are two separate things. I don t think I m voiding the warranty carrying a 20lb bike on the rear. | 2018-12-12 03:40:31 | 12 | Hitch Bike Rack Review | 21,386 |
Quick - Name my Tesla (picking up in one hour) | It s black paint black interior. I have a list of 10 possibilities. Want to see what reddit comes up with. | 2017-03-11 16:00:09 | 39 | Blacky McBlackypants | 2017-03-11 16:21:27 | 154 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,018 |
Android Pixel Owners: Walk-up Unlock fix for Pixel Android with 99% Success Rate! | I ve discovered a fix that has my phone key working as the primary key 99% of the time. Here s what I ve done on my Pixel 2 XL running latest Beta of Android P: * Turn off Battery Optimization for the Tesla app * Turn on Smart Lock options On-body detection and Model 3 as trusted bluetooth device [Here s a little video tutorial I threw together that explains how to set this up.](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=-0SAq9Il5QM) | 2018-07-16 03:35:48 | 103 | I don t think setting the bluetooth as a trusted device helps in this case. I could be wrong but I think the phone key and the bluetooth audio are separate systems. You cannot set the phone key as a trusted device. The audio system connects only when your screen is on. The phone key connects when you are close. But yeah battery optimization thing is right. I ve turned off battery optimization on day zero and have had it work 99% of the time (one time it didn t work on first pull it worked 2 seconds later). For a side tip: I m currently using Macrodroid on my Galaxy S8 and have set it to play a sound every time I disconnect from the bluetooth audio. This way I condition myself to listen for this sound every time I leave the car. So if I don t hear it then I left my phone in the car. | 2018-07-16 04:50:21 | 13 | Model 3 phone key issues | 1,517 |
[Discussion] South Korea Tesla connector change from Type 2 to Tesla Connector - Also CCS Type 1 Speculation | So this completely flew under the radar to me it was probably reported discussed in some Korean forum but since I don t know Korean... Months ago I was speculating as to what Tesla would do in South Korea given the usage of CCS type 1 there even though Tesla used the Type 2 connector in SK (https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8onvku discussion_the_interesting_charging_situation_in ). Well it seems we got our answer (actually happened a few months ago) but I missed it until just now. If you look now at the support page you ll see charging speeds and references that is identical to the North America connector: https: www.tesla.com ko_KR support home-charging-installation wall-connector What prompted me to look for this was stumbling across a random Korean video on Tesla which is from this year and was filmed in Korea and seeing the NA connector: https: youtu.be c53d13qwUDc?t=338. *edit - apparently type 2 has a charging ring now? so that s not 100% sure of a na port but the led ring looks pretty thick That surprised me. In fact if you look at the support page if you look at the install guide you ll find a link to the 3 phase one and then the 1 phase NA one (which is labeled as current). All of this tells me the following (note: these are my conclusions and I could be wrong about some of them): * Model 3 will ship with the NA connector in South Korea. It wouldn t make sense to me to switch to the NA connector then switch add something else as the Model 3 is right around the corner. * Given the above I do not think the NA connector is going to go away anytime soon. * They probably had to make the call as shipping a car with CCS Type 2 in Korea wouldn t work as CCS Type 1 is used and the Type 2 connector for supercharging wouldn t work with the Model 3. * It raises the chance of a CCS Type 1 adapter for NA cars since it can be used there and in the USA. * Small benefit - if people need to ship US cars to South Korea (like for military purposes) you can ship your Model 3 and charge there with less issues and without adapters (whether Tesla would actually let you supercharge is another matter). Does not solve the issue of NA cars going to Europe. * This does simplify logistics a little bit as now Taiwan and South Korea can get identical cars as they all have the Tesla connector now. (Japan does too but they re RHD) I do wonder about the following: * Are they going (or have they already) offered refits to convert existing cars to the NA connector? Or is there some sort of adapter? * Did they are they changing all the superchargers to NA? Dual head? Half and half? (From the video I only see 1 connector per supercharger stall). * What would they do with existing 3ph HPWC installs? Swap program? Adapters? * How long will the Tesla connector last? Will they ever go to CCS Type 1? Something else? Side-by-side connectors? | 2019-02-19 07:05:03 | 20 | > If you watch the video you can also see the charging ring around the connector on a Telsa which is indicative of a NA charging port (vs on the side for the Type 2 connector). Actually newer cars with Type 2 also have the ring around the socket. Just FYI :-) | 2019-02-19 09:45:50 | 6 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 24,750 |
Wallpaper from the Tesla Model 3 Landing Page | Its basically[ this page](https: www.teslamotors.com ) minus the text. Just went into inspect mode and deleted it all. I failed getting the 3 Logo a little bit lower : Hope you enjoy it. :) http: i.imgur.com NQb3EYR.png http: i.imgur.com ujvSI5Q.png http: i.imgur.com ROkePYO.png (fb cover) | 2016-04-01 20:54:23 | 14 | Thanks! http: i.imgur.com eoLoQxY.jpg Here s one sized for iPhone 6 in case anyone is interested. | 2016-04-01 21:04:10 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,207 |
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Vehicle software version 2018.26 3bbd9fd | TeslaFi showing five Model X s with 2018.26 over the past hour or so. Anyone have any idea what s in this release? Release note pics? | 2018-07-12 22:55:44 | 9 | Release notes blank per TMC forum. | 2018-07-12 23:52:32 | 3 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 22,054 |
Buying CPO will my car tell me when where to stop at Superchargers on the screen? | We re buying a 2013 CPO and we ve narrowed it down to two vehicles with our CPO advisor. I m trying to determine if the ones were looking at will have the feature that allows you to enter your destination and the car will route you and tell you when and where to stop for charges. Is this part of the Tech Package? I ask because we re deciding between two vehicles that match our search parameters and our price range: Model S 60kWh with Tech Package or Model S 85kWh but no Tech Package I realise we d be losing many features without the Tech Package but I really want to know if the routing through Superchargers feature would be lost. Thanks in advance! | 2017-04-08 03:34:25 | 5 | It s my understanding that the tech package does the turn by turn directions. I think you can still route yourself to the SC s without the package tho. IMO the tech package is a must have. If the larger battery pack is important to you you might be better off waiting for an 85 with the tech pkg. new cars get posted daily so I m sure you d find something. Otherwise just go with the 60 you already found. | 2017-04-08 03:45:01 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,112 |
Ridesharing with Model 3 | Hello everyone! Does anyone here use their Tesla for ride sharing? And if so what has your experience been like? Has it been profitable to the point where youd recommend it? Is there any benefits in terms of increased revenue obtained from a ride compared to doing ride sharing with a regular commercial vehicle? | 2019-11-19 22:38:16 | 14 | my regular 8-5 job is a software developer. just for fun i do one or two uber rides before work or after work. on friday or saturday nights i might go do a few doordashes if i m in the mood. i ve been averaging about $250 per week which more than pays my p3d- payment. i think rideshare would be frustrating if you needed to do it full time. i cherry pick the best times or when promotions are offered. i think i do get more tips because my red white p3d- always gets compliments. but there might be some people who think ah he doesn t need it. be sure to get proper rideshare insurance. geico kicked me off our family policy and they refuse to do rideshare for teslas even on their commercial side. i was able to get proper coverage through esurance with their sharesmart program. it sure is nice to charge up in the garage instead of paying $4 gal like the other uber drivers ) | 2019-11-19 22:48:27 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,566 |
Referral signature wall connector | My father has ordered a model x which means I luckily get a wall connector! I have heard that many who qualified for the signature black connector have been told it is on backorder. Does anyone know the timeframe it may be from when my dad takes delivery of his car to being able to get the connector? I was hoping to just give him my connector and upgrade mine to the signifier black. Is it easy to change out connectors? He is currently planning on running an extension cord from the garage to his dryer outlet. I have tried to tell him this is a bad idea but.... you know. Father knows best. 1- wait time for signature black wall connector 2- how to swap connectors(electrician needed?) 3- safety concerns charging model x with an extension cord? | 2018-07-03 22:23:29 | 8 | 1-yes wait it ll come when it comes and everyone will probably get theirs around the same time I got my wheels but at still waiting for my powerwall 2 — I heard due to Puerto Rico people who pre ordered powerwall 1 are still waiting for parts 2-yes electrician needed unless you or your dad are technically skilled handymen and understand the risks of high voltage. I d just suggest waiting for powerwall to come and get an electrician on standby to come install it one time the right way 3-not really? Obviously don t run the cord near the washer or waterlines or on the floor if there s any chance of rain that could seep in that could potentially fry something. The mobile connector and car are smart enough to detect the presence of a poor extension cord or faulty wiring and will downgrade itself to charge the best it can under its current conditions. Check exactly what kind of plug the dryer outlet on the wall is see how many amps it s rated for is it shared with any other outlets in the same vicinity? Find the matching breaker for the dryer outlet in your house breaker box and check how many amps it can push and go from there. Keep in mind if it s pretty high and a long run of an extension cord the thickness is going to have be much heavier. But honestly if I were you and there is a supercharger nearby I would teach your pops to enjoy the free super charging benefits of the referral and supercharge a couple times a week for a little while.... then just use the normal 110 outlet at home overnight to top off to daily limit or full charge for trips in the meantime waiting for the signature wall charger to arrive | 2018-07-03 22:42:34 | 5 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 16,294 |
Model 3 Midwest winter trip review | So I just wanted to share the ups and downs of my 1800 mile trip from the Southwest through the wintry Midwest over the Christmas holidays with the model 3. Overall the car did well the drive was much longer than our normal ICE vehicle trip but was more enjoyable minus a bad range scare and unusual autopilot incidents. TL DR is below since this will be a wall of text. So the beginning of the trip was fine and we made it up to Denver without a hitch and the temps were unusually warm for the time so the temps never got below freezing so minus a bit of range loss it was roughly the same as our normal trip with the model 3. The only bad things that happened was that the glove box decided it was time for it not to close which resulted in having to stop to buy tape to keep it from falling open repeatedly over every bump and the latest update causing the car to ping pong and randomly reduce the set speed which I ve not experienced before these last two updates. The second part of the trip was much more bumpy since a winter storm was brewing and expected to hit the midwest the next day so we decided to leave mid morning to get well ahead of the weather and through Kansas before the snow hit. We got into Kansas like normal with normal temps and got to the Goodland supercharger and this is where the rough spot of the trip happened. At Goodland KS is where the temperatures started to go down and we saw first hand how bad battery drain can be. When we left it was at the lower forties per-heated due to dog mode and the onboard trip wanted us to continue on to Salina but after we left a cold front we didn t know about had decided to come in and the temps fell down to the lower 20 s and the battery drain was massive when we started it stated we would make it in with ~20% but it was falling at such a rapid rate that even with our cabin temp that was set at 68 degrees there was going to be no way we would make it to Salina. We ended up making it to the next supercharger thankfully but with the temp set down as low as it could go and the car was set to 15 miles below the posted limit and with 1% left by the time we got there not a great experience there. Of course the model 3 trip planner was still trying to plan around skipping chargers which was annoying since I knew there was going to be no way it was able make it so I ended up having to reroute manually to every supercharger to make sure I would have 27 28% left so I could make it to the next super charger and by the time I got there it would be at less than 10% which was a minor yet very annoying first world problem. Of course this dragged out a already long trip even longer due to elongated charge times but thankfully the theater options made it much more bearable. So other things was that minus the trip planner and range loss there were some other annoyances things such as the complete loss of cruise control due to the sun rise set which baffled me as to why it didn t just go back to dumb cruise instead of not having it at all multiple times where at off ramps autopilot insisted that I change lanes. Leaning more toward the bad side of things there were multiple times where the cruise control speed reduced by itself which caused massive scare potential accident once where autopilot was changing lanes after passing a vehicle with no vehicles in front of the car and it decided to go from 75 to 60 and another time where on the freeway autopilot decided to go from 70 down to 30 but thankfully there were no cars around. Given all of that the trip was still a good one and I m thankful for the supercharger network but I think the Midwest could use a few more superchargers between stops for when the weather goes unexpectedly nuts it would be nice to be able to manually add stops in the onboard maps and theater mode is a wonderful thing to have when you ve got to charge. I shudder to think about what a trip in another EV would have been and I m really happy that I got the model 3 it s a great car over all. TL DR battery drain is real and massive when the temps go below freezing. The updates caused some really odd autopilot behavior. Onboard trip map was a little annoying. Still a great car and I don t regret the purchase. | 2020-01-08 19:44:59 | 52 | Agreed. More charging needed. At this moment there are as few chargers as there will ever be. Every week more and more chargers are being installed both by Tesla other companies private businesses and local governments. Glad you had a good roadtrip! | 2020-01-08 19:55:52 | 23 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 11,834 |
Best way to separately track and bill my Model 3 charging in my landlords garage. | I live in a mother-in-law apartment attached to a larger house. I plan to install a NEMA 14-50 outlet in my landlord s garage to charge my yet-to-be-delivered Model 3. Describe some good ways to track how much I electricity I use when charging in the garage (with the plan to reimburse my landlord) and or how to separately itemize my cost for charging my car. | 2019-11-27 23:31:47 | 22 | Have your electrician install a dedicated meter which will monitor the usage of your single 240V circuit. A number of suitable products are available for under $100. | 2019-11-27 23:55:22 | 14 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 2,866 |
94v vs 98v snow tires | I have the Tesla winter package and due to road damage had to replace one of the tires and went to the local pierelli shop and they replaced the tire with the same tire but of a different load rating. When I asked about this they seemed to believe that the tire wasn t available in a 98v according to their computer and it may have been custom for Tesla. I guess my question is do I take the 94v as the replacement (not covered under warranty) or do I return it and try to get my hands on the correct load rating. Would the 94 vs 98 make a difference? | 2018-12-27 14:22:18 | 7 | 98v are sold here in Canada but they are very hard to find a this time of year. Even Tesla seem to have issue to source them as winter package are delayed quite a bit. Look online check with Tesla but chance are small. I can t tell you if 98 vs 94 is a big deal but I suppose it s not. | 2018-12-27 14:35:15 | 3 | Model Y Wheel Options | 855 |
Would removing side mirrors be an option to further reduce drag? | Seems like Tesla could replace the side mirrors with cameras and put small screens inside the vehicle on either side. Would that even be an option? Seems like it could further reduce the already low drag and increase distance on a charge. | 2017-08-09 10:42:13 | 29 | There were [renders and prototypes of Tesla without mirrors](http: image.motortrend.com f roadtests alternative 1202_tesla_model_x_prototype_ride 36547504 tesla-model-x-prototype-front-left-side-view.jpg). Speculative rumor was that Tesla wanted to get rid of the mirrors on their existing cars and petitioned NHSTA because regulations in various markets require mirrors. So the law would need to be updated both in different countries but also state by state in the US. [Wired had an article on it](https: www.wired.com 2014 04 tesla-auto-alliance-mirrors ). | 2017-08-09 10:49:58 | 26 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 23,928 |
Defective HPWC (bought 2 months ago) after ice storm. | Sorry for bad english french Canadian here. Also sorry if this isn t the right sub for this. My mother bought and got installed a HPWC in november and everything has been fine since. Last week there was a mild ice storm and my mom got a power outage. When the power finally came back on the wall charger wasn t powering on. She called Tesla and they told her that since their headquarters was too far away (100 km) she had to call an electrician to come check it out. So my mom spent 200$ for an electrician to look into it the wiring is fine there is still 240 volts going into the HPWC but it still doesnt power on. My mom called Tesla yesterday. They aknowledged the defective unit and told her they were gonna send someone to replace the broken parts. Today Tesla withdrew their declaration and told my mom to call an electrician to completely disassemble the HPWC (400$) at her own cost and to BRING THE CONNECTOR TO THEIR SERVICE CENTRE 100km away so they can give her a new one so she can once again ask an electrician to install it (700$). Is this right? As I m writing this my mom is in the parking lot of a supermarket using the public charging stations so she can have enough mileage to go to work. I feel this is unfair my mom doesn t have that much cash on hand to pay for all this and she s basically suffering right now for something that s out of her control. The charger was installed correctly sheltered from rain snow and lightning. What are our options? Thank you. | 2020-01-17 15:19:05 | 15 | Not sure if this is a thing where you live or for wallchargers specifically but check with your home insurance. Mine covers all electrical appliances and installations up to a certain age against the damages of storm related and or power surge damage. Maybe you are lucky.. | 2020-01-17 15:27:46 | 22 | Tesla charging port locking | 4,912 |
New S90D vs CPO S85D: depreciation resale value? | Hi there I m not yet a Tesla owner but hope to be one soon. For those of you who follow the brand more closely I d like your opinion on how much a new Model S 90D is likely to depreciate in the first year or two. Generally I like to buy late-model used cars to avoid that huge depreciation in the first year but doing that would put me in an 85D without Autopilot 2 (when you can find them the difference between similarly-spec d new 90D models and CPO 85D models appears to be about $15-18K). I couldn t care less about the Autopilot 2 features but would I be looking at a huge dip in resale value a few years from now if it doesn t have 2.0? Are there other features that you think a new Model S needs to have in order to help retain its resale value going forward? I m open to hearing the own vs. lease arguments too but have been leaning towards owning because I have a huge fluffy Golden Retriever that is likely to make the backseat look broken in shall we say quite quickly... Thanks in advance for your thoughts. It s very hard to decide which features are must have features when Tesla has so many amazing features! | 2017-02-02 03:34:44 | 8 | Difficult to gauge. I d say it will be a wash. AP2 has a lot of value IF they get the bugs worked out. Generally though you should buy a car that has already depreciated as much as possible in order to take the least bath on it at resale time. | 2017-02-02 04:29:20 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,860 |
Does anyone know what information the Tesla Model S sends home every day? | I ve been tracking my daily bandwidth usage using a script in my router. The red arrow points to the download for 17.17.4. My Tesla downloads about 10MB daily and uploads 2.5MB daily whether I have driven it or not that day. I find the daily downloads particularly curious as they are pretty consistent. Any ideas? http: imgur.com GuTr7EA EDIT: I just looked again and bandwidth DOES drop when it s not being driven. May 25-30 I was out of town and calls back home dropped off into the kb range. | 2017-06-02 19:39:44 | 15 | The Tesla show did a talk about this I think two episodes ago. | 2017-06-02 20:22:20 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,463 |
Taking Delivery This Saturday. Some Questions and Anxiety | Hi everyone! Excited to pick up my first Tesla this Saturday right before the tax incentive halves once more. I have a question in regards to the pick up process. 1. I am trading in a vehicle. 2. Seems like the delivery process usually starts with signing of documentation prior to seeing your Tesla. 3. Hearing horror stories about paint quality I am worried about possibly having to reject delivery or request cancellation refund. 4. Problem is that I don t want to submit my trade in be unhappy with the quality of the Tesla and have to refuse it for whatever reason and be unable to retrieve my trade in vehicle back. So the question is will the delivery center let you examine your Tesla vehicle prior to signing over all the document and handing over the keys title to the trade in? Thank you all in advance. | 2019-06-27 05:12:40 | 10 | You re way overthinking this. The only people posting about paint issues are people that have had them. You aren t seeing posts from the hundreds of thousands of owners that have had zero flaws or issues whatsoever. But even if there was an issue with paint. Why would you reject the car waste your opportunity to collect the incentive and wait for another car instead of just demanding that they fix the paint for you? This doesn t make sense to me. | 2019-06-27 07:09:16 | 16 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 18,184 |
Does anyone regularly charge with a standard 120v outlet? | I m debating if it s worth the cost and effort to install a high amperage outlet in my garage. Do any of you currently charge through a normal outlet? If so what has your experience been like? My current house has a detached garage plus my current electrical box is full. I d need to dig a trench for a new line and have a sub-panel installed. There is a good chance I move within the next 18 months so I m debating if it s worth the expenses for a faster charging experience. I typically drive about 30-40 miles day. | 2017-08-24 17:57:42 | 21 | I did for most of a year. My commute was like 10 miles per day though so it was easier for me but I *think* your commute still fits within how much you could charge per day if you plug it in as soon as you get home. I supplemented my charging with EV chargers near my office use Plugshare to see if you can do something similar. | 2017-08-24 18:14:29 | 10 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 5,482 |
Model S Volume Management | Noticed recently that in my car when I m listening to Spotify or Apple Music over my phone I have to crank the volume up to like 6-7 and the quality sucks. But when I press the voice assistant then cancel everything sounds great at a level of 3 or 4 and much more crisp clear. Anyone else notice this? Not sure if I m describing it correctly. | 2019-03-22 18:26:26 | 5 | Volume turned up on your phone all the way? Try deleting and reconnecting the Bluetooth. | 2019-03-22 18:32:24 | 5 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 12,605 |
Winter windsheilditis | Does anyone have the same issue as this? This is my second winter and I ve been combating this issue since the last winter. We did have freezing rain today so I expect ice build up but this is just annoying. I have the defrost blasting on HI wipers going constantly but to no avail. At this moment I ran out of washer fluid going to go get some of the de-ice brand to see if that helps. The wipers are always caked in ice and snow binds to the blades during last winter so I can only expect the same pain in the ass this one. Can I replace my windshield to have the heated wiper blades? [windshield](https: imgur.com gallery 2xvIz6e) | 2019-12-01 21:10:30 | 22 | This isn t a wiper issue this is a not scraping the ice off prior to you driving issue. And no you cannot replace the windshield with the heated wiper compatible one as it requires the software as well. Just preheat your car (and blast the defroster of course) and use an ice scraper to break it all off prior to driving. | 2019-12-01 21:13:31 | 36 | Tesla Model 3 Wiper Concerns | 23,787 |
Tesla 3 Packages? | Looking to possibly put the down payment here in the next month or so for the reserve. Tad bit confused though has Tesla come out and said what the different packages will be? Or what comes with just 35K? Just need to know how deep into the pockets i could be looking at. Thanks! | 2016-12-19 07:14:27 | 9 | There s plenty of speculative information floating around but not much official info. Best answer is we can t wait to find out! | 2016-12-19 10:12:08 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,352 |
Charging etiquette at rental properties | So we re renting a house with friends for a 3-day weekend. We ll make it there fine but it s out in the country and I had some concerns about the 3 days we are there and the return trip (there s a supercharger but with a detour). So we asked the owners if there are any regular (120v) outlets outside to trickle charge on. They wrote back that the circuit doesn t support this and previous guests have done damage by attempting to charge . This leaves me a bit miffed in that if there are regular NEMA 5-15 outlets outside that don t actually support 15 amps isn t this a code violation that they should have fixed? Or maybe the guest was trying to use a dryer plug for 240v charging and that s what they re imagining. But now I will be breaking the rules just trying to plug the car in to a regular outlet I feel like I would have been better off just not asking and probably won t ask in the future in this situation. Might just have to take the ICE.. Do you guys ask in these situations? | 2017-02-27 03:43:38 | 7 | It is better to ask forgiveness than beg permission. | 2017-02-27 04:52:12 | 19 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,828 |
Why is my est delivery date so early compared to u DÆrik s? | I was watching some of u DÆrik s Tesla Youtube videos yesterday and in [this video at the 5:20 mark](https: youtu.be ufOSfViUvFc?t=5m20s) he shows his estimated delivery time of Oct - Dec 2017 for the long range premium RWD version of the Model3. He lives in CO and is a current owner. My Tesla account shows an estimated delivery of Nov 17 - Jan 18 for the same build configuration. I am a non-owner on the east coast and was a 3 31 line-waiter. So my question is how? I would have thought u DÆrik s delivery estimate would be significantly earlier than mine for both of those reasons (father west and current owner). It s really only a month difference between his delivery window and mine. But it doesn t make sense to me that Tesla expects to delivery to all the current owners who reserved early then make it to east coast non-owners that quickly. True it could work out that u DÆrik gets his car in Oct 17 and I get mine in Jan 18 which is a time window that makes more sense to me. And of course as time gets closer things could change. Don t get me wrong the earlier the better for me. But it just struck me as odd and wondered if anyone else thought about these things also. | 2017-08-17 12:26:58 | 12 | TLDR: Tesla s estimate (the first month they mention) looks spot on. Hi. You only need to consider RWD at this stage. There will be another round of employee owner non-owner priorities after May 2018 for AWD. There are about 8 300 employee reservations and 20 000 owner reservations in the USA. However only about 4 100 employee and 8 800 owner reservations are RWD. RWD percentage is higher in California. Therefore it s higher for employees than the USA average. Based on my calculation the production of the 4 100 RWD employee cars should finish around 17th October 2017 and then the 8 800 RWD owner cars around 14th November 2017. | 2017-08-17 13:00:40 | 13 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 23,523 |
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Picking up Performance Model 3 | Delivery advisor just told me I m the first in North America to receive delivery of a Performance Model 3! Pretty sure I ve seen others in the forums picking up so if not the first very high up! Waiting to go inspect the car. | 2018-07-26 23:04:04 | 29 | You re definitely not the first but huge congrats nonetheless! | 2018-07-26 23:08:00 | 32 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 15,200 |
Denver - Park Meadows Model 3 Reservations | Any fellow redditors headed to Park Meadows on the 31st? If so have you contacted the store mall to see if the mall entrance may open early? | 2016-03-22 16:36:31 | 6 | There will be 5 of us going up from Colorado Springs. Haven t contacted the store yet. Was planning on doing that this weekend to put together a plan. I have heard weird rumors of people camping out but I don t think the volume will be that wild. | 2016-03-22 17:25:35 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 4,987 |
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Some calculations on the Roadster SpaceX options package | I was trying to figure out what the potential performance advantage would be of having the cold gas thrusters would be. Here s my assumptions: \- 8 000PSI gas storage pressure (55mpa) (it may be more practical to have a larger volume at a lower pressure say double the volume at 4500psi this could save weight as pressure vessel wall thickness is not linear). \- I think the practical maximum volume storable in the vehicle might be around 250L. That would be equivalent to 4 common 62L 700-bar composite hydrogen storage tanks which weigh around 45kg each for a total added weight of 343kg (180kg for the tanks and 163kg of compressed air when fully charged). \- isothermal nozzle Plugged that into [this calculator](http: www.tribology-abc.com abc thermodynamics.htm) and it says there is ideally 86 700KJ of energy stored in such a system. Let s say the practical efficiency of this is at 60% resulting in 52 000KJ of recoverable energy (14.4kwh requiring about 24kwh to charge the system up initially) Plug that into a [kinetic energy calculator](https: www.omnicalculator.com physics kinetic-energy) and that is enough energy to accelerate a 1600kg mass to a whopping 570mph! (of course this is practically limited by the tires and does not account for drag) Now I also wanted to see how long the car could theoretically hover for if the thrusters were aimed at the ground. F=ma so F=1600\*9.8ms\^2 or 15 680 newtons of force required to oppose gravity. Now we can see how long the potential energy could sustain that applied force. There are 9.8Joules per second for every newton per second so every second of hovering requires approximately 154KJ. That s enough to hover for about 5.5 minutes! (This anecdotally aligns pretty well with the hover performance per unit energy of quadcopter drones so I think I got this correct). That s way longer than I was expecting! | 2019-08-30 02:23:12 | 9 | The stored energy figure appears to be roughly accurate (I calculated ~40KJ usable after losses) but it s not as simple as just turning that into kinetic energy. It would be if the energy was going through the wheels as usual but we re talking about jet propulsion here. & nbsp The problem is that while kinetic energy scales with the square of velocity momentum does not. To accelerate a 1000kg car to 100m s we could throw 100kg of gas backwards at 1000m s or 200kg of gas backwards at only 500m s. But if you run the equation for kinetic energy of the gas in each case the first is 50KJ while the latter is only 25kJ. Ideally you want the exhaust velocity to be greater than your current velocity but by as little as possible at all times. So say 101m s at 100m s and 102m s at 101m s and so on. & nbsp In practise this is isn t really doable but IIRC the most energy efficient *fixed* exhaust velocity is ~0.63x the final velocity. Unfortunately the gas coming out the back of the roadster will be moving at ~mach 2 ~5 times faster than a reasonable top speed for the vehicle. However this is assuming you have unlimited mass to work with as a jet engine or propeller does. But as Roadster will be using internal mass you actually want exhaust velocity to be as high as as you can achieve with the given energy. These two requirements are at odds with eachother so the best you can do is pick an optimal middle ground which leaves rocket engines achieving rather poor efficiencies. & nbsp It gets worse regarding hovering. As the speed of a hover is ~0 the ideal exhaust speed is also ~0 with an infinite mass flow. Obviously this is not practical but you still want it to be as low as can be reasonable engineered. Drones have typical downwash velocities in the range of 30-60mph on the order of 50-100 times more energy efficient than flying on gas thrusters. & nbsp The rocket equation gives a much more accurate idea of the performance of the roadster. She s a harsh mistress but she doesn t lie. Plugging in a wet mass of 1763kg(1600+163) and dry mass of 1600kg and using an exhaust velocity of ~mach 2 I get a delta-v of 66m s. Which is a top speed of 150mph or a hover time of just under 7 seconds. | 2019-08-30 03:55:33 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,543 |
What s your first road trip with your model 3 going to be? | Rules for road trip: - can t be in your metropolitan area - can t be somewhere you to more than once a month - bonus points for full day or more of driving - lose points for a business trip unless your tesla is specifically for a business :) Living in south central WA I am debating on Montana California or BC. Might hit Yellowstone. Montana is currently winning for my love of Lookout Pass the quality of its curves and scenery and the massive spend regen going up and down | 2017-09-25 15:10:06 | 28 | One of my driving considerations with it - and potentially switching to it from my P85D is range. I really want to be able to drive from the Bay Area to LA with only one stop - and still have some juice left when I roll into LA. Currently I stop twice to accomplish this - but the 3 has considerably more reported range. So I ll likely give that a go and see how it fares. | 2017-09-25 15:23:55 | 13 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 22,954 |
Spreadsheet of All Tesla Models and Opitions | Hey all! First time posting here. Recently I have been really wanting to get a new car and so far Tesla is one of the car brands that I am researching. Due to how many options there are for Tesla and each model each with varying degrees of expenses. I created a spreadsheet of all of these options that are currently available. Along with time frames of expected delivery storage capacity hitches wheels etc... I have shared a link to the google doc spreadsheet. I felt that maybe I can save another person time on determining what they want for their Tesla vehicle Side Note: I did not add \*FSD\* in this because it is $10 000 no matter what car you choose so if you want that in your vehicle just add that to the purchase price. [https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1xLVDNCBPKxmbjG1PfEL4qvZV7iRAAU63vehPiFhnBeU edit?usp=sharing](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1xLVDNCBPKxmbjG1PfEL4qvZV7iRAAU63vehPiFhnBeU edit?usp=sharing) Edit: Changed Autopilot to Full Self Driving (FSD) note Autopilot is included but not FSD. Edit 2: Locked 1 Row on all spreadsheets (QoL) Fixed Hitch Error on Model X Fixed Model S Interior from 7 to 5 Changed Long Range Plus to Long Range for Model Y. Thank You PM\_ME\_MASTECTOMY DanDi58 Katriik Crasch RavenXLR & LoudMusic for pointing out things that were either incorrect or suggestions on QoL things! Helps myself and others who may benefit from this sheet. I will keep yall updated on what I decide to get ) | 2021-01-16 23:46:09 | 30 | Jesus. I manage [this guy](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Rv464J1RsXNBNddy008IPsQfVrO4kHPh_L4HWKpG4bo edit#gid=0) and that s enough for me lol... on that note I have some editing to do! LOL | 2021-01-16 23:56:11 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,709 |
It s fine to compare the Model 3 to S but the expectation should not be parity | I ve seen a lot of posts as late talking about where the Model 3 falls short as compared to S. While it s good to have a comparison point we should be reminded that the expectation should NOT be parity between the models. Model S costs twice as much as the 3 and is meant to be superior. There are parts of my 3 I prefer more than my S (like crazy range and tighter turns) and parts of the S I like better (like rear facing seats crazy acceleration better storage and the dashboard screen). | 2018-01-15 04:56:37 | 95 | From my very limited experience (which doesn t yet include actually driving it to be fair) I find the 3 to be the generally superior car for my uses. But you re right that the S is expected to have things that the 3 doesn t… though oddly I don t feel that it has nearly enough of them (and has several significant downsides) to justify the enormous jump in price over the LR-Premium Model 3. | 2018-01-15 04:59:29 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,288 |
Trip Planner Battery Efficiency Assumption | Hi all New to Tesla ownership and we re looking to plan our first long road trip where we will have to plan to hit super chargers. Going from Pittsburgh to Myrtle Beach. When using the trip planner it says that over 608 miles we will have to stop 4 times to charge. We have a 2020 Model Y with a range of 316 miles. One of the segments of the trip has the battery draining from 90% to 16% over 180 miles. Which doesn t add up to me. Is the trip planner just ultra conservative or am I missing something? Will the trip planner adjust automatically once it starts collecting real data on energy consumption? Edit: Thank you everyone for the responses and information. I didn t know about the percentage coefficient off of the advertised range but it makes sense on the highway at greater speeds. Appreciate the info and this will give me a lot more confidence in the planned route. | 2021-01-03 01:36:17 | 9 | The Tesla online trip planner is kinda crappy. (The in car one is much better). For out of car planning I use abetterrouteplanner.com. Abetterrouteplanner provides you the quickest travel time. This typically results in more numerous but shorter stops. The in car Nav is a bit of the opposite with fewer longer stops. Your actual trip will probably end up somewhere in between. | 2021-01-03 02:10:33 | 24 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,477 |
Time to concede | Until last week I had healthy skepticism about the future growth potential of Tesla - but I now concede the reality. The one and only thing that has converted me into being a Tesla Fan is a theory that Elon has demonstrated **again** to be true. Elon theorized that not all the money and time in the world can solve hard problems you have to be motivated. He went on to demonstrate his theory in application with SpaceX (a company I have kept my close eye on since its inception). Jeff Bozos with his Blue Origin has not been able to launch a single rocket into orbit even though they started before Elon and have always had on-demand unlimited money. Thus Elon emphasized that engineering from first principles is very difficult. And I ll give Elon some credit here - if he says something is very difficult I automatically assume that he s talking about something that s meant to be done by the top 1% of the top 1% engineering talent pool. It has been a marvel to watch SpaceX go from cold nothingness to taking over the launch market. Elon seems to have done the same thing with Tesla. Now that Porsche Taycan turned out to be failure - which btw was supposed to be the best attempt at EVs by the German Auto - I finally believe that designing a good EV is not for everyone regardless of their history in automotive or their large bank accounts. Manufacturing EVs at large scale is a step-difficulty above that. It s clear now that Tesla will become an empire. I have friends in various industries that are being disrupted by Tesla and after Taycan s failure a lot of people in a lot of industries are finally panicked. Reminds me of a quote - I m not afraid of an army of lion led by a sheep I m afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. Elon is a super lion leading an army of lions. Yikes. | 2019-12-17 03:59:42 | 377 | It s been clear Tesla will be the next Apple GM ever since they first established plans to build gigafactories in China and Europe. | 2019-12-17 04:39:40 | 103 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 21,180 |
Folks reporting Model 3 delivery estimates are being decreased | [Via Tesla Motors Club.](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads awd-order-moved-up-to-sept-nov-from-oct-dec.122473 ) Also confirmed my LR AWD model now says Aug-Oct instead of Oct-Dec! | 2018-07-13 03:47:07 | 91 | Mine is still Sep-Nov 😭😭😭 | 2018-07-13 03:49:02 | 35 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 6,796 |
EXACTLY what do I need to remove the front plate bracket on a new Model S? | Seriously. I just want a link to an amazon drill bit head or socket set I can order. | 2016-08-08 03:29:15 | 14 | https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads definitive-s-refresh-front-plate-bracket-removal.71295 | 2016-08-08 04:03:40 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,808 |
Struggling with anything non-Tesla | Before ordering the Model X I test drove them all - Audi Q7 Acura MDX Mercedes GLE Volvo XC90 Land Rover Range Rover Porsche Cayenne Lexus RX BMW X5 but every single one had the same problem: They re all Blackberrys in an increasingly iPhone world. It s not just the buttons (have you *seen* the [inside](http: images.dealerfire.com media websites 1453 content 2016-porsche-cayenne-E.jpg?s=83628) of a Cayenne?) of which there are too many - it s the fact that I and everybody else I know no longer use the built-in navigation or whatever other feature are there (a 3 year old points of interest list? *oooh*). Waze Google Maps on a 5 inch smartphone screen are far superior to whatever scroll-wheel garbage on a non-self-updating last-generation system. Radio even satellite radio can t hold a candle to Spotify + audiobooks + podcasts + on-demand internet radio. The Volvo XC90 is probably the closest thing. It s got a middle-sized *resistive* touch screen (it s like using a gas station ATM). At least it has Apple CarPlay (the guy at Lexus didn t even know what CarPlay was) but that means you get to use a crippled Apple Maps. And it drives like a wobbly tank with a very high center of gravity. I m scared to push too hard on the gas pedal... because it means I m getting closer to 15mpg versus 25mpg. 25mpg is really good in a gas SUV btw. Oh and the other things. Some SUVs require you to fold down the middle seat to get to the back which means no car seat there. Some SUVs don t have electric-operated middle rows which means my 5 3 tiny asian wife with tiny asian muscles gets a full back workout every time she needs to access the 3rd row. If she s not holding a baby in her left arm. Coincidentally she s the only person that can fit in the 3rd row. That s right I have an asian wife. The stereotypes of driving ability and overall road awareness are all true. Some other luxury SUVs have a light on the rear view mirrors called blind spot detection but none do anything about it. Some have those terrible overhead camera view for parallel parking but none actually park the damn car for you. Oh and the little fact that a Tesla is *significantly* faster than all of them. The Model X is the only SUV on the market that has no extraneous features for the purpose of ticking off boxes of standard features. It s the only SUV that s not a sheep in wolf s clothing. Yes it s 20-30K more than most others but you get the feeling you re actually getting something worth that much as opposed to a luxury skinned version of a 30K car. When the iPhone first came out Steve Jobs said that it was 5 years ahead of anything else. It really took Samsung and the other Android manufacturers that long to catch up to Apple s user friendly interface and intuitiveness. I m feeling the exact same thing with Tesla. I wanted to like the other cars I really did. It s just that after trying out Tesla there was no other choice. | 2016-07-02 18:59:04 | 67 | Couldn t disagree more. Love my BMW far more than the Tesla interior. Love the physical buttons and knobs over the screen still. Much easier to use and navigate with. Still love the Tesla but purely for its electric drive. The inside trim is cheap it rattles like crazy and the handling is still too soft. | 2016-07-03 04:21:50 | 18 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 17,839 |
Does anyone feel FSD add on feature was not worth it? | I paid the extra $7 000 for FSD in mid november as the website said FSD features would be available by year end the only non gimmick usable part of FSD so far is the lane change which from my experience is not good at all so i rarley use it. Summons and auto park are more of one time gig features to show at at party at best and not usable day to day. Does anyone else feel the extra 7k prepaid for FSD is not worth it since we are paying interest on this amount. It feels like I loaned tesla 7k and paying them interest on top of it. Based on how to car acts i still believe full self driving is still years away. | 2020-01-14 06:38:11 | 165 | I think almost everyone (me included) who purchased FSD don t think it s worth it in its current state. | 2020-01-14 06:44:33 | 168 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 5,410 |
How is the Company Culture at Tesla? | So I was offered another interview at Tesla this year - I was offered an interviewlast year but declined to take an offer somewhere else. I applied to be a software engineer this year and I m a bit nervous that I m not going to fit into the company culture. I would assume it s a bit more bro-y than most places but I have experience in the government sector video game industry and currently working in Finance with a lot of bros. I think the only reason why I got an interview is because I am a woman Asian and went to a top tier CS school but I doubt I m going to fit in. | 2019-07-08 18:17:36 | 9 | Take the interview. Bring up company culture during the discussion and ask if you can meet other members of the team or tour the office space. There s nothing lost taking this step and finding out first hand. | 2019-07-08 19:22:17 | 30 | Career Decision - Tesla vs. Ford | 8,333 |
Best Phone OS to use with Tesla Car | Hello All I m one of the few WindowsPhone people left however i m thinking of switching phones. I want to base my switch on which phone works best with the Tesla Android or iOS. What do you guys think. TIA | 2017-07-03 01:44:12 | 17 | *they do exist...* | 2017-07-03 01:59:13 | 72 | Bestla Tesla Companion App | 2,800 |
Invited to configure anybody willing to show me their model 3? | I bought a 2014 Model S 60 2 months ago. I got my invite to configure my model 3 yesterday. I haven t done it yet. I m trying to keep this short so let s just say I m in a financial position right now that the best path would be either: * Pay off the car loan. Order the 3. Take delivery of the 3 and immediately sell the S. * Cancel the 3. Wait until finances are lined up a bit better and trade up the S for a newer 85D or something in a year or so. My main gripe with my model s is crappy range (180 @ 100% 160 normal) crappy cupholders and a hood that is hard to close and former owner even left dents trying to close it. Autopilot is a want not a need and with the current state of autopilot I can wait another year for an AP car. The model 3 LR PUP + EAP would address all of those at the same price point I am paying for the model S plus its a brand new car rather then one with 45k miles. It also seems now would be the best time to sell my S with the current shortage of both CPO and model 3s. My main concerns would be the decreased storage space decreased seating space as a bigger guy and just personal taste as if all things were made equal we d probably all prefer the model S design. Anybody got input to help me decide? Anybody willing to show their car? I can take a road trip if I have to. | 2017-12-16 17:54:25 | 22 | Don t cancel your 3 and don t order one either. Just sit on it until you re ready to buy it. | 2017-12-16 19:43:51 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,836 |
Jeremy Clarkson and Tesla | In some ways I am glad that Jeremy and Top Gear won t be reviewing the Model S for quite some time because by the time they do get to review one it will be driving Jeremy up to the Supercharging station after an uneventful hour autopilot drive on the highway to a robotically powered charging receptacle that won t have a charging error like the problem he had with the BMW i8. With a 30 minute minute charge being too slow for him he will discover the battery swapping option and do that instead. He will then blast back onto the highway to 60mph in less than 3 seconds. By missing all of the intermediate improvements that Tesla has made he will be driving the best version of the car. He also seemed to be making slight turns on his dinosaur ways with his last BMW i8 segment like wind turbines aren t the worst thing in the world and such. And I do have to agree with his argument on hybrid cars not being the answer to the problem. All-electric all the way! | 2015-02-18 15:08:48 | 21 | I have a specific bone to pick with that show when it comes to hybrids. They were instrumental in [perpetuating the disinformation that hybrids and electric cars batteries make them worse for the environmental than normal cars](http: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 2kou6r does_anyone_know_what_happens_to_the_batteries clnlkue) even though that information had already been long disproven by the time they aired that episode. They also perpetuated the disinformation that how you drive matters more than what you drive despite [statistical evidence that shows the exact opposite is true](http: www.reddit.com r todayilearned comments 2q1v6l til_that_according_to_elon_musk_top_gear cn2jc60). I realize this is Tesla s subreddit but the disinformation affects hybrid cars and electric cars alike. What s worse that show often gets cited as a source of evidence around Reddit but when presented with evidence that their claims are factually wrong (see: the Prius BMW M3 comparison faking the Roadster s inability to drive staging the Leaf running out of energy) their supporters fall back on referring to it as entertainment lowering the standards of proof without addressing the fact that the show s claims were wrong in the first place. It s like it s just entertainment gives them a free pass to be treated as an authoritative source without having to adhere to any standard of factual accuracy at all. Even if they are just entertainment the extent to which they have contributed to poisoning the discussion around hybrids and electric cars with disinformation is very real real enough that they need to be called out for it. After what they did in the reviews of the Prius Roadster and Leaf nobody should be treating their claims on hybrid cars and electric cars with even an ounce of credibility. | 2015-02-18 16:40:32 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,332 |
Model S: Pics of Red with White Interior? | I think that s my choice for my 3 and was wondering what that looks like in real life on an S. If anyone has pics to share of their own I d love to see them. TIA!! | 2017-08-14 05:42:54 | 8 | https: youtu.be SqpVbmp_phA | 2017-08-14 10:43:12 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,728 |
[Discussion] Ordered an inventory MX last week. What next? | I ordered it traded in my car already having an electrician install NEMA 14\-50 outlet next Tuesday got my finances approved and ready by Tesla. What should I consider next? 1\) I was thinking about wrapping the MX Xpel stealth full body but I got a quote for $5000. I also got a full body vinyl wrap in matte black for $3000. Is Xpel worth it if I wrap my car in vinyl anyway? Is Xpel really this expensive? 2\) My daily commute will be 130miles max sometimes lower. I got 75D as the range is around 200\-230. My delivery advisor said I don t need the wall charger as the mobile charger can fully charge if I come home at 7 and leave at 8. So I guess NEMA 14\-50 will be fine? 3\) Are there any accessories I need to purchase to enjoy my MX or any tips? Thanks in advance! | 2018-04-25 19:49:37 | 6 | \*Time Stops\* | 2018-04-25 19:58:07 | 15 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 24,651 |
New Car Production Issues - What should we be looking for? | Got my Model S last month and everything seems fine but I m not too detail-oriented about making sure the car is perfect. Can anyone point me to or tell me what production issues I should be looking for to ensure my car doesn t have any defects? Everyone says the car should be really quiet inside the cabin but I still hear the road other ICE cars etc. how quiet is quiet? Thanks!! | 2017-02-02 19:46:23 | 16 | Looks for any swirls in paint (look under bright lights or the sun view from multiple angles) check to make sure the chrome is lined up make sure there arent any crazy sized panel gaps. You are still going to hear the road tires and wind noise. Its quiet... but not that quiet (especially if you have pano roof). I ve been in other ICE cars that are quieter because they have sound-damping inside. | 2017-02-02 20:24:27 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,778 |
Help with installing a new 5-20 circuit | Hi all Since we re on lockdown here I have some time to do some work around the house... For a variety of reasons I am not able to expand my breaker panel beyond its present capacity. I was able to identify a 20A circuit for an attic fan that is not used (and hasn t been since our house got central air a few years ago) so I would like to make this unused spot into a new 5-20 circuit for the purposes of charging an EV. I have the means to charge 12+ hours daily and only commute 10 miles. The 7ish miles or range per hour is plenty sufficient for me. I m trying to get some specifics on products to buy for this circuit. I am planning for 10 3 wire even though code is 12 awg just trying to maximize efficiency and reduce resistance despite the fact it s still 120V. I m also planning for a Lutron 5-20 industrial outlet in a Taymac in-use weatherproof cover. I am unsure on a conduit to use. The wire will go through the drop down ceiling tiles in the basement through a wall into the garage and then through an exterior stucco wall to terminate in the outlet. Do I conduit all of it or only the parts that will be exposed in the garage? Is there a preferable breaker type I should use? The existing panel is a Square D “QO Load Center” Cat. No QOC8M Series L1. Thanks all! Will post photos below of box and circuit it s on line 7 with a double breaker. I imagine that each of these independently has a 20A breaker. https: imgur.com a eoj5kqT | 2020-03-20 18:20:14 | 15 | If you already have the 20 Amp in the panel why not just run a 240 circuit. You will get a lot more efficiency out of the setup. | 2020-03-20 19:28:19 | 15 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 7,815 |
Cybertruck Wheels | I want to believe the CT wheels were just mockup hubcaps to go with the Blade Runner theme and was going to ask if anyone could photoshop on some [SCS F5](https: www.stealthcustomseries.com products f5) s Method [MR701s](https: www.methodracewheels.com products 701-matte-black) or [fifteen52 Analogs](https: fifteen52.com products analog-hd-asphalt-black?variant=15113773940802). But I came across this [TMC post by T3slaDad](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads the-real-cybertruck-wheels.174767 ) where he was able to [screenshot wheels from the test rig](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc attachments screenshot_2019-11-22-23-45-54-3-png.480323 ). It got my hopes up for a short minute but they look like BBS CIRs and I m sure Tesla is still refining the look. I was curious if I m alone in my hate for the concept wheels or if it was a shared feeling. Cheers! | 2020-03-10 12:37:48 | 8 | As I understand they can t ship a vehicle with tires that protrude from the wheel wells. That alone tells me this is further from what we ll see in production that Tesla typically shows. | 2020-03-10 12:41:10 | 8 | Model Y Wheel Options | 4,378 |
I just bricked my Model 3 | *** See end of post for TL dr and link to solution *** So here I am less than a week into owning my very own Model 3. Once while showing it off the UI locked up when I attempted to change from Chill to Normal mode and I needed to reboot it. Another time my FM radio seemed to crash so after about 20 minutes of listening to silence I held in those two buttons to reboot it and everything was hunky dory again. Well today I parked it in my garage for the first time. I also plugged it in to my 120 outlet for the first time. Great! I ll get up to 80% charge in only 18 hours :) As I sat in the driver s seat poking around the various settings I noticed it asked me if I was at home and wanted to save my current location for future use. Sure I gave it permission. But I noticed it thinks I m at my neighbour s address so I attempted to click on it to see if I could edit it to have it show my own address. Well that was the end of me being able to use my car. The screen became unresponsive. After about a minute or so it rebooted itself. Then it came back up still unresponsive and then another reboot. I decided to try unplugging the car to see if the charging screen that I couldn t close was the problem. On the next reboot it came up with the map instead of the charging window. But we repeat the same cycle: 1. Music playing 2. Screen displaying current status location time etc but otherwise entirely unresponsive to touch 3. Music stops 4. Screen goes blank for a moment 5. Tesla logo appears 6. Screen comes back 7. Music resumes playing 8. Repeat. If I reboot manually it takes a little longer to come back but it s otherwise identical. If I use the Mobile App to ask the car to flash the lights this seems to happen after it s next self-reboot cycle. If I press the brake to start the car the brake lights come on but there s otherwise no response. If I push the gear selector down nothing on the screen happens and I do not hear the parking brake disengage. I gave Tesla a call to ask what to do about it. They asked me to try rebooting one more time which I did to no avail. We re currently leaving the car alone for some time to see if it ll reinitialize itself when I return to it. This is a bit disappointing that what appears to be a nav system glitch has effectively bricked the entire car. I m running 2018.21.9 if anyone is curious. TL dr: While car was parked at home I accidentally tried to navigate home. Now the car won t respond or start. Solution: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8v85a0 i_just_bricked_my_model_3 e1lc2ns | 2018-07-01 06:34:25 | 83 | Ok so they promised to call back in 20-30 minutes. I called them after a little more than an hour. While I was waiting on hold I had a hunch. Managed to fix it myself. So for anyone else who may run into this issue if it s caused by the nav system here s what I did: Hover your finger over the Cancel Navigation button. Doesn t matter if you press it it s not like it s going to care. But when it reboots and first comes up press it RIGHT AWAY. Not one second later -- that s too late -- immediately when it comes up. Voila. Everything works again and you can start the car. Also it really sucks that the woman I spoke with went home despite offering to and very clearly telling me she d call back in 20 minutes after the car has had a moment to sleep for a while to see if that would help it (it didn t). | 2018-07-01 07:05:07 | 120 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,921 |
To all Model S X owners what are your pet peeves about the car? | Any small things you wish Tesla would look into? Anything you think the majority of people wouldn t have a problem with but you do? | 2016-11-10 20:44:42 | 17 | I hate having to blame Autopilot for everything that goes wrong in my life. | 2016-11-10 21:10:09 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,259 |
First experience with a cold M3 today | This morning was my first time experiencing issues with my M3 in the cold. I live in VA Beach and today is by far the coldest day of winter so far. It was 20 degrees this morning when I was leaving for work. I turned on the heat to 75 while I was getting ready and headed out to the car. Door handle was frozen solid. I had to push extremely hard to get it to open. Thankfully that recent update changed how the windows worked because they did not roll down when the door opened. I definitely wouldn t have been able to get into the car if it wasn t for that update. & #x200B I got in the car and couldn t close the door had to practically slam it to get it shut.. which is never fun cause I hate being rough with my $50k car... anyway I got the door to close and was off. Immediately noticed regenerative breaking wasn t working. Now that I ve been driving a Tesla for about 6 months driving without RB is something I m not used to. So weird to actually have to hit the break to slow down haha. & #x200B Then I tried rolling the window down nope! None of them would go down completely frozen. This sucks because I always like to have one window cracked.. I get a little claustrophobic when driving and it s nice to be able to hear the outside world.... but yeah they wouldn t open the entire trip to work. & #x200B But I got to work safe and sound that s what matters.. it just sucks that this car of the future has so many issues in cold weather. I always heard about these problems but today I realized just how bad it is.. Tesla needs to step up their climate testing for future builds this is unacceptable for a car this expensive. & #x200B TLDR: Car hates the cold. Elon please fix this shit. Still love my car. | 2019-01-21 15:54:21 | 11 | *Laughs in Canadian* | 2019-01-21 16:02:32 | 69 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,716 |
Tesla plugs into securitisation market for new funds: $546m bond | [Paywalled article on Financial Times](https: www.ft.com content c8cc4704-02c9-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5) > Electric carmaker Tesla is set to tap a new source of financing to fund its multibillion-dollar expansion with the issue of a $546m bond backed by customers lease payments. Mods: I m unsure if this belongs in the investor thread or is allowed in a separate post. I think it s pretty big news since it involves the financial health of the company which is continuously questioned. Edit: [credit to Familial Rhino on TMC](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 2532931 ) (more snippets from the FT article there) | 2018-01-27 11:14:02 | 140 | It s good they get cash when they need. Getting the Model 3 to really ramp is obviously a bit more costly than previously thought. And perhaps they are laying groundwork for the semi. But of course those lease payments are future cash flow and future profits that are now going to bond holders. If markets revert to the way they have been historically and demand profits it is harder the more debt Tesla has. | 2018-01-27 12:01:40 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,120 |
Artificially limiting Performance | I know that Tesla s have a valet mode but I m wondering about something different: I know that the dealerships can limit the performance of the cars to simulate other models but I wanted to know if it s possible to do something similar? I have a family member that will probably use the car who has a bit of a lead foot and I d love to artificially hamstring the car so it performs more like an accord with a max speed of maybe 85 and the same acceleration as a Honda Accord. Also I thought it would be fun for all of the folks that believe electric cars are slow plodding beasts to try a slow plodding car... and then half way through the drive take the shackles off and unleash the true speed of the car! Is it possible to artificially limit the performance? | 2017-12-01 15:11:01 | 13 | What about [chill mode](https: electrek.co 2017 11 05 tesla-new-software-update-chill-feature-to-soften-crazy-acceleration )? | 2017-12-01 15:35:33 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,261 |
HW2 still calibrating cameras | My S 90D received the .185 update on New Years Eve. Tried to use TACC and AutoSteer but alas cameras need to calibrate. Problem is I ve driven nearly 300 miles over 8 hours and under various driving conditions and areas (highway city streets etc) yet the camera is still calibrating . Anyone else encountering this or have any suggestions? Thx! | 2017-01-07 03:14:51 | 8 | Beemer--I have a model S. Was lucky enough to get the update on NY eve. Have driven 400+ miles on all types of roads. STILL getting the Autopilot Not Available while camera calibrates message. Support personnel at Tesla have been given no guidance on this issue. They cannot offer any suggestions except keep driving. It is surprising that Tesla would be okay leaving customers in the dark on this high profile issue. The forums are lighting up--and the company is silent. I get it that it takes time. I don t get the complete lack of communication. For others--there was not even a mention of calibration in the release notes. Users had to figure that out on their own. And some of us are still waiting 400 miles later. | 2017-01-07 05:55:10 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,429 |
Tesla truck spotting video collection from recent test run | https: youtu.be dP0vIH8r-tE https: youtu.be QA5PQ66kxCA https: youtu.be 4VIjFCJls30 https: youtu.be wJmLOCUrcW8 https: youtu.be k5E6JOPleuk https: youtu.be ibBIspOwBMc https: youtu.be EtOzoqBjTaY https: youtu.be 7kyo-CrnE_Q | 2018-03-10 07:00:54 | 59 | The 7th video is where you can see the benefit of the quick acceleration. Enters the road but doesn t hold up traffic. Given what our brains are have gotten accustomed to with trucks it almost looks like the trailer s empty. Edit: typo | 2018-03-10 08:29:36 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,389 |
I was born with epilepsy and I can t wait until the day we have FSD cars. | According to my state law you have to be 6 months seizure free to obtain your license. I had first seizure at 2 months old due to a 107°F fever and I haven t been able to make it past 2 months seizure free since I was 14 years old. I ve been using Uber to get places my whole life it adds up quickly and is extremely inconvenient but you get used to it. Right now my boyfriend drives me around when he can and I m forever thankful he does that. I ve been on a cocktail of medication for 5 years that hasn t helped me stay seizure free for more than a month. Hopefully I ll be able to see an epilepsy specialist soon to talk about the possibility of surgery. **I want freedom.** I don t know what it feels like to leave the house and go to a drive thru by yourself at 3am. I don t know what it feels like to go grocery shopping alone. I don t know what it feels like to be able to drive in the drivers side with the windows down. I don t know what it s like to drive alone in the rain. I hope we are able to get fully self driving cars within my lifetime that are hopefully affordable. I have a fund I m saving for a self driving car. Especially now since I ve been hearing more experiences about people who rode in them. | 2020-09-01 05:05:21 | 1,046 | I really hope that technology can free us from our physical limitations illness aging disabilities etc. there re a lot to happen ahead of us. If we look back ten years things were so different it s hard to imagine what it s going to like ten years later! | 2020-09-01 05:51:43 | 158 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,302 |
[Discussion] Pretty disappointed with the delivery processes specialist orientation system | I m not sure if it s just ours or if it s a general problem. The guy doing our orientation was in general clueless about the product (Model X). He had a presentation to give and he couldn t answer any questions outside of the script. Later in the day we got this email from him: > It s [Redacted] from Tesla! It was a pleasure meeting your family and you! I m glad I was able to be a part of your orientation if you have any questions or concerns feel free to reach out to me via email or phone that info is posted below. Moving forward I would like to offer myself for any Tesla related needs you may have. I am here to assist! The big problem is that I took his offer seriously and have reached out to him a couple of times. The car was delivered with a defective seat. Every email I ve sent to him has been blown off. Yesterday I requested confirmation that a new seat had been ordered and his reply was basically how should I know I don t work in the service department. The whole thing has left a bit of a sour taste my mouth having made such a large purchase and not having a real contact to reach out to with issues. | 2018-06-17 00:39:18 | 48 | It sounds to me like that establishments management needs to receive some constructive criticism. One would hope they d consider at least remedial training for this individual if not outright removal. | 2018-06-17 00:50:38 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,683 |
M3 Bug Computer restarts if you do a call voice command and navigate at same time. | Posted in r TeslaLounge but it might be better here. I was driving yesterday and I wanted to call someone using the voice command and I also clicked navigate home at the same time. So I used the voice command to call and right as I was done talking clicked navigate home and my computer restarted. I tested this at-least 10 times and each time the computer restarted. Can anyone else confirm this? Model 3 LR AWD 2019 | 2020-01-28 18:48:00 | 86 | Similar happened to me. I believe I was navigating and changing a music source though. Only second time I have had the screen go out while moving. Always with someone else in the car because of course. | 2020-01-28 19:46:47 | 20 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 11,190 |
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Some thoughts on Tesla s competition | All of Hyundai Kia EVs like the Kona e-Nero Ioniq seem to be severely production limited due to battery supply and according to one source quoted here some weeks ago as per a British dealership this should go on for another 12-18 months. Nissan s Leaf got murdered in the US last year and for whatever reason in the one region where it is successful (Europe) Nissan only assigned a quota of 5k 62kWh Leafs for 2019. That s like 1 week of M3 production. Volt is dead while Model 3 killer Bolt is on life support in the US and since Opel was sold practically unavailable in Europe. E-tron is in a 6 month+ delay it has atrocious power consumption And the only saving grace 150kW charging has just been destroyed by v3 Supercharging and 12 000 v2 chargers getting a 145kW boost OTA I-Pace is also in production hell due to batteries and it took them about 11-12 months since launch to come up with the SW update to unlocked the 100kW charging advertised VW ID has been delayed by a quarter and will start with pricier versions as well (like Tesla sand the media bashing for it) Everything sexy about the Porsched Taycan has been toned down since we saw the prototype and it remains to be seen if it really does have 350kW charging. Currently I ve only seen 220-225 in the only video (AutoMotorSport) where it was seen charging. Ford has nothing Toyota has nothing Honda has 1 prototype Fiat has the limited quantity 500e Mercedes EQC is delayed by 6 months. I mean they were smart and said they will do a VIP edition until fall 2019 instead of the full June release they were promising before Taken from TMC https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads tesla-tsla-the-investment-world-the-2019-investors-roundtable.139047 page-1419 | 2019-03-18 08:13:03 | 200 | Model 3 is realistically the only mass produced long range EV on the market. We were told we d be swamped in #TeslaKillers by now and Tesla would be dead. Didnt turn out to be so easy... | 2019-03-18 08:49:07 | 140 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,569 |
Anyone lease a $35K SR yet? Is it possible to get $420 mo.? | No it s not a clickbait headline. Here s my math - tell me if I m wrong: * SR+ lease quote (on $39 500 MSRP) is $504 mo. with $3K down for 36 mo. 10K mi. * $504 * 36 = $18 144 total monthly payments * $18 144 + $3 000 down = $21 144 total lease cost (excl. dest and doc. fees + taxes) * $21 144 $39 500 = 0.535291139 residual So * $35 000 - $3 750 tax credit (presumably claimed by Tesla?) - $3 000 down = $28 250 * $28 250 * 0.535291139 = $15 121.9747 * **$15 121.9747 36 = ~$420 mo. lease payment** | 2019-04-15 04:02:16 | 35 | All the leasing options of the Model 3 are complete and utter bullshit. $0.50 per mile? LOL. | 2019-04-15 10:29:39 | 15 | Tesla Lease Experience Considerations | 2,007 |
(Question) Can I purchase a CPO in a showroom that I saw online? | So I have been looking at the used inventory mostly 85 or above . If I go in a showroom and tell them what I want will they help me find it and do they offer any more discounts than the listed price? | 2017-09-20 06:21:44 | 10 | Yes. No discounts though. | 2017-09-20 08:23:42 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 193 |
New M3 LR AWD says there was 1 Sentry Mode event but I don t have a USB drive yet. Any way to learn more about what happened? | Title says it all. I got my new Model 3 a few days ago and when I came back to my car after getting coffee I see a Sentry Mode event report - 1 event occurred message but when I tap on the green information icon nothing happens so I have no idea what (if anything) actually occurred. My USB drive is in the mail so there s currently none set up. Is there any way for me to learn more about what happened or is that only possible once I have the USB drive? Thanks in advance and Happy New Year! EDIT: Thanks all for the feedback! The USB flash drive that I got is this one based on the recommendation of a friend who s owned multiple Teslas over the years: PNY Duo Link Sync & Charge 128GB Metal Gray for Iphone iPad (P-FDI128GLA02GC-Rb) https: www.amazon.com dp B075CPM9BQ ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_N6pdEbMD8Z6BZ. Will this one work ok? | 2020-01-01 19:21:23 | 6 | If it was just 1 event it most likely was you opening the door. | 2020-01-01 19:24:18 | 17 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 13,803 |
[Discussion] Model 3 delivery repeated failure — possible incentives? | Okay so as of 10 minutes ago I ve had to reschedule my model 3 delivery 5 times now (so I m on my 6th appointment and 3rd VIN) and I was wondering what kinds of incentives the delivery centers can have offered if I ve had to reschedule my delivery this many times. It wouldn t be a huge deal but we ve taken off work several times to go pick up this car and every time just end up empty handed. They ve told us every time that they re “positive” that the car will be there that scheduled date and it hasn t been any of those times. Let me make it clear that I support Tesla and I m a long investor but it s also kind of ridiculous to be told with certainty that my car will be there and it still hasn t made the 5.5 hour trip from shipping center to service center in 2 weeks. UPDATE: The service center finally got in touch with the logistics team and the car was here the very next day. They gave me free servicing for anything out of warranty | 2018-10-14 18:12:27 | 13 | That s baffling. You have all of your ducks in a row right? The delays have only been due to the car not being available at the service center or has there been trouble with trade-in financing insurance vehicle fit finish etc? At a minimum I would ask for home delivery if I were you. | 2018-10-14 18:33:25 | 14 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 24,580 |
I bought a used Tesla Model S four months ago | and I still haven t gotten app access! It s killing me! I live in Canada and its super cold and I really want to use the app to remotely turn on the heat in my car. I ve emailed customer service and called them and they told me to send my info to [email protected] and I sent them an email a couple weeks ago and sent it again last week still nothing. Anyone have any advice for me? I also tweeted Elon just in case it might work. Edit: apparently all this brouhaha on reddit lit a fire under someone s ass cause i just got an email saying my Tesla got added to my account! Thanks everyone for the help! | 2020-01-14 22:25:55 | 144 | If you bought the car from a private owner: ask them to change the email address in the account to yours add a password of your choice and then you have access to the car remotely. | 2020-01-14 22:59:58 | 78 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 8,770 |
Referred a friend but didn t get referral | I went into a Tesla dealership with a friend who bought a Tesla on the spot with my referral code. This is back in March. She took delivery in April. This was my first referral so I didn t know what to expect but her referral never showed up in my account. I called the dealership and they said they opened a case and it was closed but I still don t have a referral. I contacted Tesla Support over email and they confirmed that the referral is not applied and that they cannot manually apply it. They said to speak with the Sales Advisor at the dealership. I feel like I m getting the runaround. Anyone else have this issue and can give me tips on how to resolve it? | 2019-05-13 18:43:17 | 24 | This is why you need to tell your friend to not go into the store to order. Use a cell phone or a laptop. Just click on the referral link and go from that. So much bull shit has been going on from the Tesla employees. They put in a friends code or they take money from someone else. I have seen it happen more then once by waiting in a store for my car to charge up. I know I will get down voted just like last time but the truth hurts. TLDR tell the person you gave the referral link to. To not go into the store to order. If they want to go in then you go with them to make sure that the link is placed into the web browser. | 2019-05-13 18:58:28 | 31 | Tesla Referral Program Issues | 16,300 |
Used Pricing | Is it just me or is the used pricing on telsa a bit off? I was inquiring about this car: https: www.tesla.com en_CA used 5YJ3E1EA0JF029717?redirect=no As a used car it isn t available for the federal rebate program. As a used car it has until May 2022 or for me 60 000 km left on it for warranty (vs 4yr 80k) . It s a RWD instead of AWD. All of that and it is only roughly $6-7 000 cheaper than a brand new equally spec d 2019 AWD model (after federal rebate program). I do like that for the new cars the process is a no haggle just click and buy process but this used pricing seems high for what it is. Am I wrong or missing something? | 2019-11-21 19:54:16 | 51 | Used and new model 3s are just so limited in supply right now that people are paying over the price with fair depreciation. It just isn t worth buying used right now. These prices just do not reflect real long term market value. My guess is things will start to normalize at least on used pricing when the Model Y hits volume production and people trade up or chose it over a 3. I would also guess that Tesla is trying to take the lead on high used pricing right now to incentivize people to buy new cars. A lot of the movement on Model S X pricing has really come from Tesla themselves setting the bar on rates. | 2019-11-21 21:02:17 | 39 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,909 |
50K mile maintenance info + some warranty checks fixes | Alright everyone here is my 50 000 mile maintenance warranty update. As you all may know I did just buy the $4 000 extended service agreement (extended warranty). My car was technically at 50 100+ miles when I took it in for the maintenance... but because I had called for warranty repairs 3 weeks prior (note: first available appointment was 1.5-2 weeks after I called but that didnt work with my schedule) they didn t charge me the $200 as if I had called for extended warranty repairs. Also they originally told me it was $900 but I had to remind them the pricing literally just changed days ago and now it was $850. Here is what they did (with my comments): 1) [Here is what the annual service includes.](http: imgur.com a kGXiU) I did ask if I really needed the service since I had my 37.5K and had the drive unit replaced. They said yes not only for the ESA but also at 50K they replace the battery coolant. My advisor used the battery coolant as the reason for the increased pricing for the 50K mile checkup... ~~but that s literally 1 QT of coolant and I doubt it really takes that long~~ (edit incorrect). I don t think the 50K mile checkup is worth $850 at all. 2) They replaced both of my key FOBs. A couple weeks ago I got the key battery low alert on my driver s screen that absolutely would NOT go away even when I replaced both batteries did the reset etc. We then found out that my wife s FOB had died. The service notes said they replaced batteries and tried to re-learn both FOBs but that didnt work. Then they found out my wife s FOB wasn t responding and there was no evidence of water damage. My key had a slight crack on it so I guess they just replaced both and everything works fine now and alert is gone. 3) Interesting note: when the key FOB fucked up summon was NOT available. Even with the working key FOB or double clicking the parking gear on the stick... the car absolutely would not summon forward or backward. It just sat there blinking the lights. I asked them to look into this as well and once both key FOBs were fixed summon suddenly started working. I told them to report this to engineering because summon should NOT fail just because one key FOB battery is low or dead. I have no idea how those two are connected but they assured me they would pass it up the line to fix the glitch. 4) They checked my battery and charger and said they are fine. A month ago I was at Fountain Valley supercharger at about 1am (with no other car around or paired) and was stuck at 50kW-70kW charging even at 5% battery. I called Tesla service and they remotely saw nothing wrong with my car or the supercharger so they put a note on my file to have my car checked. Everything on my car is fine - it looks like it may just have been a power supply issue at that supercharger that night. 5) Pano roof chatter when opening: they took a look and apparently I had a lot of debris and it just needed some lube. I could have fixed this myself if they would give me the damn maintenance manual. I m assuming it just some vacuuming of debris and squirt of lube. 6) Belt molding (chrome around doors) slightly off - so they fixed that. 7) Courtesy check for alignment and tire pressure. 8) Cleaning detailing My appointment was Wednesday last week. I dropped it off and Costa Mesa service is so busy diagnostics couldn t be done until Friday and I was able to pick up my car on Saturday. No Tesla loaner - I was given a new Cadillac XTS which is a nice car but the infotainment system was a pain the buttons to set the seat mirrors position wouldnt save so I had to reset every time and Apple Carplay is cool but every time it gave directions it switched off the XM radio... so literally every time I got directions I had to hit the screen to get radio to play again (very annoying). Thing also gets 17-18mpg - but I didnt have to pay for gas. Overall glad to have everything fixed and clean but there is no way that service is worth $850. When I first got my car it was $600 per year - but now they have changed the costs either higher or lower depending on the service. A flushing and refill of ~~1 qt of battery coolant~~ (edit: take that back not sure on amount) is not worth another $250 (or extra $375 if you are comparing to new $475 price for 37.5K maintenance). Cheers Edit reason: I thought the 1 QT Brake fluid was the battery fluid my bad. Not sure how many quarts of battery coolant are in the car. Still not worth the extra $250-$375 IMO. Maybe an employee can explain exactly how much and how hard it is to drain refill? | 2017-02-23 18:42:13 | 64 | Elon claims the service centers are not profit centers but $850 seems high. On the other hand Elon is probably right and your and others $850 barely makes a dent in the service center s expenses doing warranty repairs. | 2017-02-23 19:33:57 | 12 | Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights | 771 |
Karpathy unlocks Autopilot next-level Shadow Mode with Self-Supervised learning | ELI5 TL DR: Tesla can now get 100 driving videos and look closely at only 1 to learn how to drive city streets better and faster than watching all 100. Andrej Karpathy hinted at what s upcoming during a recruiting pitch at ScaledML: “Most of what I ve described so far relies primarily on supervised learning — with the *exception of depth* — where we massage and create a massive data set. But we ve seen recently with the use of **contrastive loss** there s a lot of progress today in self-supervised learning… We probably have the most interesting largest data set of videos so we ve been looking into some of these **self-supervised techniques to speed up the rate at which we learn from very little supervised data** so we don t have to collect hundreds of thousands examples of ‘except right turn. We can do it but prefer not to.” [View Autopilot using depth self-supervised learning to track birds-eye-view objects](https: preview.redd.it 6p07q1jrbrz41.jpg?width=1000& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=42c32e71eba33c4522988ce5881c48895eab11de) Autopilot Shadow Mode currently downloads triggers (without needing a firmware update) and uses “landmark” prototype neural networks to detect and upload videos of things that might be interesting to then have humans determine if it s actually interesting and provide labels for use in training. The manual labeling step is necessary in supervised learning to train the network in correctly identifying certain desired objects and tens of thousands of labeled examples are needed so many experts are needed to produce high quality from the much larger set of collected data. [View DeepScale augmenting training data potentially for self-supervised learning](https: preview.redd.it lygqiajgdrz41.png?width=375& format=png& auto=webp& s=57e400b6011db1dfa49d368cfdc7b412e8e88515) Self-supervised contrastive learning reduces the amount of labeling by having the network learn broad patterns from augmenting related parts of easily available unlabeled data such as a partial view of a traffic signal is closely related to a blocked view of the same intersection or one frame of a city street video is closely related to the next frame with a better view of a stop sign and those are also less related to a random image of a parking lot. After the network learns to generally separate out these patterns e.g. highways vs intersections with red signs the network has an easier time fine-tune training with labeled data e.g. no stop sign vs “all way” stop vs “except right turn ” which can then be inferred on the road for visualizations and current driving policy. [View SimCLR self-supervised contrastive learning framework visualization](https: preview.redd.it 020cbqnidrz41.png?width=545& format=png& auto=webp& s=1fe15a983a966368e463fbdfd7ec864709a93f5a) Google Brain team recently published “[A Simple Framework for Contrastive Learning of Visual Representations](https: ai.googleblog.com 2020 04 advancing-self-supervised-and-semi.html)” where they surpassed the accuracy of a traditional supervised network trained with 100% of labels while their “SimCLR” framework **only used 1% of the labels**. Flipping this around for Tesla this means they can have Autopilot Shadow Mode collect 10x the data for the self-supervised portion of learning while also have their human experts label 1 10th the current amount of examples for the supervised portion of learning to still improve on the accuracy of a given detector. Practically this means many different types of edge cases can be improved in the same amount of time. Late 2018 all Tesla vehicles traveled a combined \~10 billion miles whereas now Tesla with a rapidly growing fleet of 1+ million vehicles will travel around 20 billion miles in just this year so finding ways to reduce new bottlenecks and efficiently use available resources is critical in scaling to the current trends. Similar to the [Autopilot 3D labeling rewrite](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments f1dlqh autopilot_rewrite_with_3d_labeling_is_only ) unlocking the FSD Computer capabilities improving Shadow Mode and training process speeds up Autopilot s ability to learn the tricky corner cases needed for Full Self-Driving. It s been a few months since Karpathy talked about using this self-supervised contrastive learning so Tesla may be ready or pre-collecting to use more data. At least our car has uploaded 30GB in the past month while previously it wouldn t even reach 1GB month. In any case it looks like Tesla is preparing to release new features before the end of Q2 hopefully enabled by the rewrite for understanding intersection traffic directions and sharp turns then iterating rapidly with self-supervised learning. | 2020-05-19 17:52:13 | 169 | Wish as a part of this training is the simple aspect of offsetting away from a potential danger. The car now performs wonderfully driving in the middle but on a two lane road with oncoming traffic I always offset away from oncoming traffic rather than being in the middle. Same with cars parked on one side. I offset away from the parked cars in case someone opens the door or someone steps out from the side of a parked vehicle. If there is no traffic coming from the other side I might even touch the line that divides the lanes but it is safer because there are no other vehicles. Another case is when there are shrubs and bushes on the side of a road. If safe I offset away from them to avoid scratching the car but Autopilot stays in the dead center of the lane. Most of the time when I disable Autopilot is to offset away from danger. I wish this setting was at least an option. | 2020-05-19 18:31:46 | 48 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 10,587 |
Subreddit adjustments coming soon aiming for this weekend after the Semi event. | We have been quite busy and haven t been able to write up a formal plan and structure yet. The intended adjustments are based around all of the feedback we received from our [Growth of r TeslaMotors](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 74nswk growth_of_rteslamotors ) post (so thank you!). With these adjustments we re highly focused on the enhancing the quality depth and respectful discussion of commentary and posts here. We are hoping to provide an outlet for the individual while also reinforcing a great environment here even for the skeptics. Also expect some changes to the rules to come with. That s all! r TeslaMotors Mod Team p.s. what are folks thoughts on a Model 3 UI design option for the sub? Things have felt stagnant for a bit UI wise would love continual feedback on that. | 2017-11-15 19:53:13 | 29 | I think the obvious change would be condensing VIN spotting into a single thread. Too many posts rn | 2017-11-15 20:22:41 | 39 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 17,862 |
Tax Credit | I purchased two Model 3s in 2019 and my accountant seems to think I can only claim one for tax credits. Both federal and state (Louisiana.) Does anyone have any advise on this please? | 2020-03-31 16:21:15 | 25 | Quite frankly you might want to get a new CPA. If they re this uninformed they might be missing other opportunities for you. | 2020-03-31 16:25:04 | 80 | EV Tax Credit Information | 18,230 |
Model 3: Black screen for several minutes sometimes no sound after wake... | I have been having this problem off and on since I got the car about 9 months ago: The car unlocks normally (with my iPhone) but upon entering (and stepping on the brake) the screen remains black. I can drive the car without the screen or just wait and either way after a couple of minutes the tesla logo will appear. Usually it s fine after that but about 10% of the time I get no sound from the car (no blinker noise no music etc.) At that point stepping out of the car and back in seems to reset the sound. Interestingly - before I discovered the get out of the car trick I had no luck getting sound back by rebooting hard rebooting or powering down by the console! Only getting out of the car resolves it! This first began happening after receiving the car this spring and I took it in to Tesla of course thinking it was a hardware issue. But they had trouble reproducing it and could not seem to find any problem and ultimately suggested that it might be an unlocking issue related to my iPhone (X iOS11 at the time and now Xs iOS12). The problem eventually sort of went away... I didn t notice it for 3 or 4 months but now it has returned. Has anyone else experienced this? | 2019-01-02 17:21:25 | 15 | Yup I experience it on a daily basis...might have something to do with the LTE connection on startup. Nobody really knows what causes it I doubt Tesla does either but many people are noticing this bug. Supposedly firmware 52 (which should be the next release) will fix this issue at least based on one person from teslamotorsclub.com said...but Tesla has claimed prior updates were supposed to fix it and here we are. | 2019-01-02 17:25:41 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,466 |
Tesla power projet for Puerto Rico. | Kauai Island population: 65 689 people Puerto Rico population: 3 725 789 Ratio: **1:57** Kauai Island battery installation: 52 megawatt-hour battery installation plus a 13 megawatt SolarCity solar farm South Australia battery installation: 129 megawatt hour. cost to Tesla: $50million+ **edit:** gigafactory s total projected battery output for 2018: 50 gigawatt-hour. Battery needed to power 100% of Puerto Rico (estimated based on population) 2 964 megawatt-hour. cost estimate compared to south Australia: 23x$50mil = 1 150 Million or **1.15 Billion dollars**. or almost 6% of Gigafactory 1 s 2018 production. or 2% of gigafactory 1 s capacity when it s completed. or **27 days of giga factory production in 2018** or **9 days of giga factory production when completed** Puerto Rico s GDP in 2015: $125.861 billion. some facts about Puerto Rico s power: [source](https: www.eia.gov state ?sid=RQ) *Petroleum products fuel transportation electricity generation and industry in Puerto Rico supplying three-fourths of the energy consumed in the commonwealth. *In 2016 47% of Puerto Rico s electricity came from petroleum 34% from natural gas 17% from coal and 2% from renewable energy. Two wind farms supplied nearly half of Puerto Rico s renewable generation in 2016 one of them the 95-megawatt Santa Isabel facility is the largest wind farm in the Caribbean. *As of June 2017 Puerto Rico had 127 megawatts of utility-scale solar photovoltaic generating capacity and 88 megawatts of distributed (customer-sited small-scale) capacity. In the first six months of 2017 more renewable electricity came from solar energy than any other source. *Electricity fuel surcharges have decreased with world crude oil prices but in mid-2017 Puerto Rico s retail consumers still paid more for their power than consumers in any state except Hawaii. | 2017-10-10 21:04:10 | 24 | A billion dollars worth of batteries. That s a lot of batteries. | 2017-10-10 21:10:58 | 11 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 20,124 |
Who else loves the new Model X grill? | Or should I put lack of grill ? I m interested in what others think of the design. The consensus seemed to be love it or hate it upon release. On a side note it s impressive they kept it so well hidden from the media. | 2015-10-01 22:58:08 | 57 | I almost leapt for joy after seeing the new face of the X. It took a really long time for me to appreciate the nose cone on the S but even then it felt like a concession. I told myself that if the nose cone made the car look more conservative less like some electric toy and more like a sensible sedan then so be it. The X on the other hand what a breath of fresh air! The design team really out did themselves. The use of simple planes to break up the the light and shadow give it a surprising amount of attitude and character. It it really ballsy that they would even attempt something like this I am sure it must have taken many many iterations to get to this final design. Its so modern whatever that means. Si-fi but not pretentious simple but not plain. Honest maybe that s the best word I can use to describe my feelings about this face. It is like I am seeing the face of Tesla for the first time... and it is beautiful. | 2015-10-02 00:59:44 | 40 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,318 |
PSA: Model S Center Console Dock Now Has USB-C | I have been waiting for this to come as a set and it seems it appeared some time recently! https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-s_x-quick-connection-phone-dock.html?sku=1060583-00-B | 2017-11-05 17:11:12 | 87 | Nice to see Tesla finally bringing USB C. I put mine in a while ago using this mod: https: youtu.be Nt7En3Ipts8 | 2017-11-05 18:51:52 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,868 |
Overheard at work: Tesla is like a jetski in terms of how it brings happiness | So today it s quite light at work. Most folks are OOF (Out Of Office) or WFH (Working From Home). So you can really hear conversations from far away. I overheard this conversation: Coworker 1: Money buys Happiness! Ever seen someone on a jetski being unhappy? Coworker 2: or a Tesla. The first guy didn t even question the 2nd. They kept on chatting as they were walking away. I know about the Tesla smile but this is the first time I ve heard of the Tesla being used as an example of bringing happiness like a jetski. Wow. The revolution is coming and it s bringing happiness 😍 | 2019-07-05 19:55:20 | 117 | What about... A Tesla jet ski? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | 2019-07-05 20:02:51 | 48 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,567 |
Saw my First Tesla in Puerto Rico | Finally saw my first Tesla driving around in Dorado PR AFAIK there are currently 3 Teslas in PR seen the other two online. I was looking forward at the incoming cars and saw the distinct Tesla Model S nose cone after I saw the LED lights and the Tesla T. I shouted to my wife about it which was with me on the car. Sadly no pictures since he was going the opposite way. I never been more excited of seeing a car not even Ferrari s and Lamborghini s | 2016-01-17 00:38:34 | 23 | I m one of the lucky ones who gets to see dozens per day in a high concentration area but I still love to see these posts. Congrats on your first hopefully you ll see a lot more in your future :) | 2016-01-17 03:58:01 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,789 |
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Is the Tesla Model S the first and only modern production car (excluding the Model X) without a start button or key ignition? | One of my favorite features of the Model S (or you might even say lack of a feature) is the fact that there s no key ignition start button switch or anything to turn on and off the car. You get in sit down press the brake put it in drive and off you go. To turn it off put the car in park open the door and close it. Is there any other modern production car (other than the Model X) you can turn on and off with your butt? I say modern because hand-crank engines of the turn of last century don t count! | 2015-09-24 23:06:40 | 15 | Well I d find it incredibly dumb for an ICE car to implement something similar. While most people sitting in the driver s seat do intend to drive somewhere they don t always want to and they don t always want to do it immediately. You have to have some explicit method to say yes please use up precious fossil fuel and begin creating toxic gas so that I may go somewhere. With the Tesla you don t use any extra fuel to get the vehicle ready for travel. There s no windup period needed. The power is just *there* without the cost of making it available. You could get in and out of your car with little effect on your mileage. If I started my Chevy up and off and up and off I d be doing a lot more damage to my vehicle wallet and environment. | 2015-09-25 00:21:20 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,088 |
Self driving is bigger than I realized. | Self-driving cars are going to change our society in some pretty dramatic ways that many people probably haven t realized yet. Consider a few things: Today unless you live in a metropolitan area with good public transportation you probably just about need a car to survive. This car is depreciating constantly whether or not you are using it. When you re not using it you need to pay to store it somewhere - whether it s a driveway or garage that you own or a paid parking space. Because you own the car you can use it whenever you want. There is no premium charge for peak hour usage or off-peak discount. Self-driving cars are going to turn this all on its ear. Now to be clear when I m talking about self-driving cars in this context I m talking about fully autonomous vehicles that don t even need a person inside of them and can operate in all weather conditions and on most roads. Anything less than that will be insufficient to cause the change I m describing. With that said this level of technology is coming. The time of its arrival is difficult to predict but one of two things eventually must happen: progress on self-driving technology will stop forever or true self-driving cars will happen. So what is the key application that drives all of this change? Self-driving taxis. As it currently stands taxis (and other services like Uber and Lyft) tend to be comparatively expensive relative to car ownership. The costs of a taxi service look a lot like the costs of a personal vehicle: vehicle cost depreciation maintenance cleaning fuel etc. In a taxi these costs are spread over many more miles of driving than your typical personal vehicle and as a result taxis generally achieve a better cost per mile ratio. So why are taxis expensive? The driver. With current technology in order to share a car that car must be operated by a person. This person in turn must be compensated. This compenation in turn results in taxis being significantly more expensive than operating a personal car in most instances. Remove the necessity of a driver though and suddenly a taxi becomes not only cost competitive with a personal vehicle but necessarily cheaper. Take note again of the costs of owning a vehicle. Some costs scale linearly with miles traveled - fuel brakes tires etc. Other costs do not namely depreciation which is a measure of the vehicle s remaining service life. Vehicles are only good for a combination of miles and years. A vehicle driven constantly can often hit a million miles without significant intervention while a vehicle driven infrequently will rust through before the odometer gets to six digits. Put simply increasing the utilization rate of our cars will significantly increase the value that we can derive from them. This means that the cost per mile for a self-driving taxi should be substantially lower than a personal car. A secondary factor that will compound this effect is vehicle design. Today vehicles are designed to last 200 000-ish miles and 10-20 years because that is what the market demands. Most people s use cases fit into that window. Consider instead a car designed to be a self-driving taxi. This car would have a drivetrain designed for maximum service life measured in miles per dollar and would also give less preference to service life as measured in years. Rather than trying to reach 200 000 miles in 20 years this car might reach a million miles in just a few years before being retired and recycled or reconditioned. Optimizing vehicle design for miles per dollar will further improve the overall cost of a ride in a self-driving taxi and better its advantage over the personal car. It can be assumed that once it is cheaper to rent a self-driving taxi (it s not really appropriate to hire a robot) than it is to own a personal car people will make the switch. Personal car ownership will plummet with only professional travelers and vehicle enthusiasts holding onto their personal cars. What effects will this have on society? Parking for one will be largely obsolete. A taxi with no fare is a taxi losing money so self-driving taxis will be unlikely to spend much time stationary. Additionally the need for destination parking will be completely eliminated freeing up huge amounts of space in urban areas. What parking remains will be relegated to the inexpensive outskirts. Vehicles will only remain in a city so long as they can be gainfully employed. Similarly homes will no longer need a driveway or a garage. With no car to store the expense won t be justifiable for most. Space previously used for parking can instead by used for commercial purposes green spaces additional traffic or other uses. Blacktop and garages won t be necessary in homes anymore replaced instead by smaller lots larger homes or bigger yards. Simply put storing cars won t be a thing anymore. The total number of cars will almost certainly decrease. Because a self-driving taxi doesn t need to sit in a lot all day waiting for you it can be used to ferry other people around. Ultimately one car can do the work of many and the number of registered cars should plummet. An interesting secondary effect of this will be an easing of congestion. Today rush hour occurs because everyone gets in their personal cars at about the same time to drive on the same road. There is no additional cost to being on the road at a particular time and so people go whenever they feel like it. However if we re all sharign cars we can t all be on the road at the same time. With self-driving cars vehicles will become scarce around peak times and fares will increase according to demand. Similarly in off-peak times fares will necessarily decrease. This will provide a financial incentive for people to advance or delay their travel times and smooth congestion. While it would be possible to simply flood the market with more cars this is unlikely to happen since these cars would sit idle for the rest of the day costing their owners money rather than making money. Ultimately this should greatly reduce the need for improved road infrastructure and efficiently smooth traffic flow. Now we have a smaller number of cars owned by a smaller number of people and companies operating over a shorter (chronological) lifetime. All of this means that new technologies and new regulations can be implemented much faster. Under current practices a technology added to new vehicles will not become ubiquitous for 5-10 years since old cars need to be retired and replaced with new. When cars only last just a few years this process will be dramatically quickened and new technologies can gain mass adoption through natural turnover in only 1 or 2 years. This combined with the regulatory simplicity afforded by a more concentrated ownership of vehicles should result in great improvements in cost safety and environmental impacts. This shortened lifetime should also greatly aid in the recyclability of cars since corrosion and other time-based wear will be kept to a minimum. In addition to how self-driving cars will affect the personal vehicle market they will also affect how we travel longer distances. Consider for instance inter-city travel. Today the best options are either to travel by air or by rail. For both of these you must travel to an airport or train station pay for parking pass through various pieces of administration and security make the actual voyage and repeat the process in reverse. By contrast a self-driving taxi can make the trip with door to door service (similar to driving today). It will do this trip at a fraction of the cost of flying and likely cheaper than a train. In many cases a car will be faster over the whole trip and during the trip a passenger can sleep or be productive in a private environment without loud noises or other uncomfortable distractions. The competitiveness of self-driving taxis could be further improved by increasing the speed limit on interstate highways which would be accommodated by the improved safety of self-driving cars. Imagine for less than the cost of the same flight you could be picked up from your home take a nap in a private cabin and wake up at your destination. This technology should greatly reduce the volume of short intercity air travel which will be a huge benefit to the environment. So far I ve discussed passenger travel but what about freight? The current state of the art is the semi-truck. 80 000 lbs of product rolling behind one driver over long distances. The obvious benefit of self-driving technology is that the driver can be removed for a cost savings. But what else might happen? For one it is likely that trucks would begin to get smaller. Because the driver is a fixed cost there is an incentive for him to move as much product as possible and therefore drive the biggest truck possible. Without a driver transport cost will scale roughly linearly with the size of a load and so loads will be right-sized. In many cases where loads are batched together to fill a truck these loads will instead by transported by smaller vehicles over multiple trips. If all the loads are going to and from the same place this isn t a significant difference but things are different when considering distribution systems where a single truck visits several facilities. In this case instead of one big truck visiting several facilities to get a full load several smaller trucks could service each facility individually and save the intermediate travel distance. Overall this could lead to a major reduction in vehicle miles traveled by commercial vehicles further reducing energy use emissions vehicle wear lead times and congestion. All told self-driving vehicles will be a veritable paradigm shift for the way we move people and goods around the world. This one technology will aid in the solution of many problems including climate change cost of living vehicle safety logistics and shipping costs and even urban density. Because of this it is crucially importan that we enable this technology both legistatively and economically. Elon Musk knows this and it is why he is pursuing self-driving technology at Tesla. It s why the Model 3 drivetrain is designed to last over a million miles and why the Model 3 interior is designed for use as a self-driving taxi (including an interior-facing camera). It s why the Tesla Semi makes sense even if its max payload isn t as high as other class 8 trucks. Self-driving technology is going to be the catalyst that fuels the abrupt transition to sustainable transportation and it ll all happen through market forces. TL DR - Self-driving cars will lead to self-driving taxis. . Self-driving taxis will be cheaper than owning a car. . Car ownership won t be common anymore. . This will help fix congestion and remove the need for parking driveways and garages. . Self-driving taxis will replace air and train travel over short to medium distance. . Self-driving taxis will be designed for a million miles or more but only last a few years resulting in fast turnover and introduction of new technology. . Commercial vehicles will get smaller. . All of this is a huge cost savings for everyone not employed driving cars. . Self-driving technology is the catalyst for sustainable transportation. . Musk knows this. | 2019-06-24 14:14:53 | 17 | User name checks out. | 2019-06-24 14:20:54 | 29 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 16,910 |
FYI: The July 2016 issue of Motor Trend is on shelves but... | ...if (like me) you ve already read these posts on motortrend.com there is basically nothing new to see: http: www.motortrend.com news s3x-stuff-hard-work-lohdown http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-first-look-review http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-first-ride-review http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-photos-analysis http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-behind-the-scenes http: www.motortrend.com news confirmed-refreshed-tesla-model-s-gets-revised-design-new-features http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-family-car http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-second-ride-review http: www.motortrend.com news tesla-model-3-deposits-surprised-even-elon-musk http: www.motortrend.com news bentley-bentayga-tesla-model-x-p90d-compared-latest-head2head http: www.motortrend.com news 2016-model-x-p90d-numbers http: www.motortrend.com news how-tesla-model-3-blows-original-ford-mustang-away I don t regret spending the $6 though. I d like to think Motor Trend saw an uptick in sales for the July issue due to Tesla fans who don t normally buy dead tree periodicals and if that results in more coverage of Tesla and EVs in general then it s six bucks well spent. | 2016-06-02 00:43:39 | 21 | I gotta get by the bookstore and pick one up. | 2016-06-02 01:01:41 | 5 | Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors | 6,317 |
Model 3 Ordering Timeframe Question | Hello everyone I have a question for the people that have ordered Tesla Model 3s in the past few weeks. How long did it take from time of order to get your VIN number assigned and how long till you took delivery? Tesla s website currently says within three weeks. Just would like to get a rough timeframe thank you. | 2019-07-01 22:13:08 | 8 | So my story: I walked into one store a week ago 6 24 19 and wanted a car... some BS and a week later (today 7 1 19) i drive to another store and say i need help get me a car. They placed me with a car and a vin in 10 minutes. The car is not standard by most means - model 3 LR dual motor blue exterior black interior sport rims. It was built 4 days ago and they roughly estimate 2 weeks for delivery. Hope that helps. They are literally selling them as fast as they make them lol. | 2019-07-02 01:26:15 | 3 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 11,851 |
Fender bender will put my car in the repair shop - for months! | So three days ago I was in a low speed collision. Traffic was slow then came to a stop. I stopped in time - the guy behind me did not. From outward appearances it seems like the rear bumper is damaged a reflector is cracked and a sensor popped out of place. It s annoying whenever I slow down (I get a warning that park assist is unavailable) or when I go in reverse (STOP!). I took it in for an estimate today and the shop seems to be well up on Tesla repairs. Many poor Teslas were visible in various states of damage. The guy I talked to said that getting parts from Tesla was slow (though lately they ve been more responsive). He said once I bring it in and they tear into it (which they have to do to check for additional internal damage) it could be months before the repair work is done. Tesla may send one part and then a month later another and so on. It s painful to think I ll be away from my car for so long (and paying for gas for an ICE rental paid for by the insurance of the guy that hit me). The damage is so minor I m tempted to live with it - but I won t. Just wondering what anyone else s experiences have been with body repair work on their Tesla. | 2018-06-07 23:39:39 | 38 | I use to be an insurance adjuster in California. Be mindful of the state you live in because depending on when you live they may be obligated to pay what s considered reasonable . I ve had tons of claims where a car was in the shop for 6 weeks but reasonable repair time was 2-3 weeks. I only paid the 2-3 weeks and partially denied the rest of the loss of use bill. We would tell the claimant they were shit out of luck unfortunately and if they wanted to they could file suit against our insured. Would go to court and the judge would usually side with our decision. Sucks but it happens. Good luck friend. | 2018-06-07 23:45:25 | 25 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 6,581 |
Am I the only one thinking that anti-sell of model 3 continues with the reveal? | I mean price of features warranty AWD delivery estimates that go well into 2019 for some markets... Would be really interesting to see how options and pricing will change once reservation queue is gone and they actually need to start to sell model 3 in earnest :) Right now as I see it they have to maintain production volume. Model 3 ramp is not there yet so they have to sell S and X or Wall street will butcher them making it more difficult to build next gigafactory more superchargers model Y factory semi and who knows what else. On the other hand when Model 3 production is in full swing I think the balance will shift and so the options will be tweaked price will be dropped new features introduced :) Just my two cents | 2017-07-29 16:41:27 | 42 | The anti-sell definitely will continue there is just no point for Tesla to do anything else as they can t deliver. | 2017-07-29 16:46:20 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,447 |
2 Dumb questions just ordered “new” Tesla M3 comes next week. It has 2 000 miles on it guessing store 4 hours away used it as test drive car. | 2 Dumb questions just ordered “new” Tesla M3 comes next week. It has 2 000 miles on it guessing store 4 hours away used it as test drive car. 1)I have the Vin can I look up the full specs somewhere? My account just gives me highlights wondering if it has premium sound. Also wondering if it s a 2018 or 2019 model. 2) Are 2019 cars made only in 2019? A lot of car manufacturers make the following year car available much sooner than the actual year stated example my girlfriend just ordered a 2020 Volvo and it arrives in August of 2019. | 2019-03-20 03:00:57 | 14 | Did you order on a computer or did a Telsa employee send you a link? If you ordered online for full price it should not have those miles. If you ordered from a link then your Telsa employee may have found you a “deal”. That is “new” as in the car has not been registered with an owner yet but it has obviously been driven a ton. Call your delivery person and ask them why it has 2000 miles on it. Ask if it was a test drive model or why it has those many miles. You should be getting a several thousand dollar discount if it was a test drive car. I just turned down a 4000 discount on a test drive model 3 with 1200 miles because I found out it was a test drive car. | 2019-03-20 03:13:09 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 342 |
My TX outage experience with Powerwall Solar Vehicle | First off I want to say that I m very very happy right now to have power. Power has been down in my neighborhood for about 30 hours at this point and many of my neighbors are hitting below-freezing temperatures inside their houses at this point. Between my solar Powerwall and the fact that I ve got gas heating (so not much power use) I ve been able to stay warm. But I have noticed a bit of weirdness I wanted to share with people: 1) My Tesla car seems to have freaked out my solar production. Look at this graph: [https: imgur.com a 92Hs4GC](https: imgur.com a 92Hs4GC) That big chunk in the middle where there s no power I started watching it and what I d see is my house using \~1kW from the PowerWall my solar panels would kick on providing \~5kW a moment later my house would kick up to using \~6kW then the solar would turn off and I d go back to using \~1kW. I have the app set to not charge my car during outages unless the Powerwall is above 95% (it was below 80% at this point) but it seems like when solar would kick on it would try to charge it off the solar but had problems possibly with the car trying to pull more than the solar could put out. The car had barely dropped enough from vampire drain that it wanted to charge so I dragged the slider for how much to charge it down to 50%. It still happened so I flipped the breaker for the car charger and that s when the whole thing started working again. Also I am curious about the random smaller dips where it stops providing solar power but less worried about those than the big cutoff that seemed to be from the car. 2) Storm Watch is great before the issue (it charged my Powerwalls up to 100% and left them there before things got serious) but I worry it s bad for the grid during the issue. I did have power try to come back on a couple times. The first time I saw that the Powerwall immediately started trying to charge from the grid as fast as it could. For an already strained grid where they don t want surges from turning areas back on (they ve asked that people unplug everything and have just a single lightbulb on so they can see when power comes back) having the Powerwall try to charge itself from the grid during this is probably bad. I turned off Storm Watch mode and changed it back to Self-Powered and a low % so that my house doesn t yank from the grid as soon as it comes back online. Tesla probably needs to consider some changes to Storm Watch so that it doesn t charge when there s requests to conserve in an area and maybe even slowly ramps up using grid power when it does return. | 2021-02-16 14:20:54 | 78 | I m gonna guess your powerwall was 100% during those clipping. Solar inverter turns off when there s not much for it to give the full output to. Let s say you have 5kw coming in from sun your house uses 1kw and powerwall is full. Then you might not be able to dump 5kw somewhere and therefore shut off. I m not sure if there s difference between microinveter version or optimizer version. I m also not sure what I said is correct but it makes sense. I ve seen a lot of threads when I researched solar that during self testing black outs they don t see solar on if there s no where to dump it. I bet when this happens again you start charging your car so you re slightly net negative on the powerwall and you ll see solar being on the whole time. You have to fine tune the charging to make it slightly above what solar is producing minus the house use. | 2021-02-16 18:42:35 | 10 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 13,319 |
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