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This entire situation concerns money interests. The health of any community involves many more facets than generated income. Much of the development that has occurred since the 70's has been very positive for downtown Eugene as a thriving active center. But along with this comes some negatives. Eugene used to b e a nice large town to visit. Now it more resembles a concrete jungle metropolis along with all of the trimmings, many that are not very nice. The urban intimidation factor is now most definitely present. Contrary to the development mentality is the perspective of the value of open space. Kesey Square is open space and within an concrete jungle open space brings a welcome breath of fresh air. There exists a wealth of structures within the general downtown district that are in need of renovation and/or development. Focus on these and please leave the little open space left as it is for the health and enjoyment of all the citizens and visitors of Eugene.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I think the letters have not been posted yesterday or today. Don't know if it relates to the new "Civil" system.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Wow. Talk about special treatment. This cop, like all people authorized to carry guns and restrict citizens' freedom, should be held to a higher standard, not a lower one. I'm not surprised, but disappointed by this slap on the wrist. Looks like Portland continues to be all talk and no show when it comes to cleaning up the force. Can't help but wonder what other abuses of power this guy got away with in his years on the city payroll.	0.166667	0	0	0	0.166667	0	0
I get it, and I am open to the idea that the other ordering forces outside current models. I think that this is a worthy point of inquiry and one POV that should be explored. To take the leap that the other ordering forces are intelligent in nature (or must be, as some ID proponents claim) is a very very bold leap. If ID proponents were to change the name and the tone of the rhetoric, I know I for one would be more open accepting that the conversation they are trying to have is a valid one. I do think that leaving it as 'not currently understood' is the right way to frame it, instead of many ID proponents who proclaim, "not currently understood, and therefore MUST BE intelligent." It may be intelligent, it may not be. It is not explored, and we need to keep exploring it, with the understanding that the outcome may result in either outcome being true.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Thank GOD we have a team of government trolls (DEA) to keep us safe from a bunch of plants! What about violent crime? Theft? Robberies? Ponzi schemes? TERRORISM? Na, that could be dangerous! Lets keep wasting SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS A DAY chasing plants! AssClowns	0.4	0	0	0	0.5	0.1	0
Soliciting money from friends to run for office, changing your mind, then keeping most of the money may be legal, but how is it honorable? And how can it be right to then give those other people's money to a candidate who hadn't even declared when hopeful founders gave to Charlie's campaign?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ha! I totally forgot about good ol Joe "both barrels" Biden. Why would such a staunch advocate of gun control promote such a reckless course of action? The answer is ignorance I'd wager.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
JP, which letters? Letters to the Editor?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
And if he had called 911 and said: "he thought he heard someone trying to break in," , would a police officer have appeared? At 11:45 am?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
"Free, peaceful assembly, and that is exactly what happened" Ms Flore sounds like she's kidding, but, I fear she isn't. The armed Bundy militia seized and with weapons, occupied federal property. They threatened to us physical force against anyone who attempted to physically remove them. Since they had firearms, one might infer that such resistance might include use of those guns. They broke into buildings, files, and a storage area which housed Paiute historical artifacts. They, without permission, used government owned equipment and vehicles. The broke several, if not many, federal laws. Ms. Flore describes this as "peaceful assembly." The armed occupiers will face criminal charges for their actions....as they should. I suggest Ms Flore might doublecheck the definition of "peaceful assembly." The last time I checked it, it did not include "freedom" to break laws without facing the legal consequences of such actions.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Sorry folks, Springfield is the real Kesey corner, go see it. Ground floor can be open design while another concrete phallus be raised above it.... dollah bricks for sale.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
NO MORE TAXES! PERIOD. You have enough already. Control your spending.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
My goodness....Do you really think a politician and an attorney would conspire to self-promote? You are such a cynic. The Law Enforcement officials involved in the Malheur occupation action are to congratulated for their patience and self-discipline. They're the heroes of this incident, not the armed occupiers or Arnold and Flore who came to the Refuge to "strut upon the stage" in their tawdry show of self-promotion.	0.5	0	0	0	0.5	0	0
ID isn't science. I would like to see science originate something out of nothing.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Well stated, sir. Sheriff Ward is to be honored for his patience and good judgment.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
In my opinion, our comment shows disdain for the character and judgment of the people of Harney County. Sheriff Ward acted in a very patient fashion and worked assiduously to keep the situation from escalating into a gun-battle. He has my admiration and respect.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Is there a beginning of time? What existed at the beginning of time, and how did it originate? Is there an end to the universe, and if there is, what's beyond that? Until science can answer those questions, I'll put my faith in ID so I won't have to pray to Chuck Darwin in times of need or grief.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
“We can’t continue to go on tearing each other apart, hating each other because of differences of opinion. ... There’s no way we’re going to fix this country if we’re all mad at each other and fighting.” I couldn't agree more.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Does it bother anybody else how much of this Kesey Square proposal is about the behavior of the people who hang out there for long hours? Specifically, the badgering, bullying, and threats? Rather than the square itself, how it relates to the downtown area physically? If the goal is in fact dealing with that behavior (and I'm not sure, just asking), then will putting a building over it solve it? And if it doesn't solve it, won't we kind of miss the square afterwards? I agree with @rustystill's concerns about the overly urban feel of it and the lack of open space. I think we want a downtown with a Eugene OR feel to it, not a Disney-like mock-up of a miniature Manhattan.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
So you're saying that science doesn't have all the answers but you have faith that it will some day? That makes science faith based, same as ID. ID is much easier to believe, as the eternal Creator has no reason to lie or manipulate data like humans.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Yes. Everyone believes their actions are justified, regardless of how unconscionable they appear (and possibly are) to outsiders. That doesn't make those who wrong us right, but maintaining some level of compassion can make real progress a lot more likely.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Nope, not related to Civil Comments. Just a run-of-the-mill production error. The Saturday letters are posted now.	0.166667	0	0	0	0	0	0
How can anything in this opinion be stated or assumed as fact ? “About 1.3 billion years ago” ? Was anybody there to see it ? The most humorous aspect of this opinion is the “about” clause regarding the time, as if there could not be any “about” clause before anything else. Sorry guys, I don’t get it…I thought science was supposed to be observed.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Well John LSD is illegal for you also	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
It has, and always will be, about the people who congregate in the square. If the square is developed, this bunch will congregate somewhere else, like at the new city hall.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Once again, ignorance of the subject matter is displayed. The Football program and Basketball programs, as supported by donations, supports itself as well as many 'minor' sports. That money is not available for any other purpose. If you have poor vision in one eye, sticking your finger in the other eye will not make you see better.	0.2	0	0	0	0.2	0	0
AlwaysThere, oh dear, that's crushing. Here I am believing that the earth orbits around the sun, that there are planets, that dinosaurs once roamed the earth, that what we see as stars in the sky are galaxies and beyond ... but if all of that is just assumptions, damn. So sad.	0.7	0	0.7	0	0.1	0	0
maybe you should expand your horizons a little and not just read or listen to one side....reading/watching everything is how one becomes informed	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
More conservative policy spells disaster. Just ask the residents of Flint Michigan. Then there's Kansas. Being sued by all sorts of people for lack of education money. The courts have even weighed in on this one. Yes lets deregulate everything and sacrifice the health and safety of our citizens. Conservative policy has exploded our homeless population and caused millions of jobs to leave the US. Its all about profit not people. How has all of this profit benefited the majority? More jobs leaving the US as I type. More blame being laid at the feet of the victims of this policy not the perpetrators. What a messed up system that has failed miserably. And what do conservatives want.? More of the same. More poverty for those who cant afford college. More back breaking long hours while holding several jobs just to be told you are not working hard enough. The little people paying more and more for every thing while those with the largest assets come up with ways to pay less.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
One has to wonder how and when these "black holes" originated.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
It seems educators do not know that they are discouraging the best business students by constantly placing blame and guilt on corporations. Are these corporate leaders super successful? Yes. They were in all of our classes in school. Am I the only Oregon student who wishes successful classmates well? And thanks, corporations, for giving Oregon a tax base - especially in Washington County - that is superb. Intel and Nike should get thank you cards from educators. Educators should show some gratitude for the revenue the entire state benefits from.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
my comment was to Charlie & the rest who only appear to be getting a one sided view ...and Gary you left out the part where the fire chief states that the vehicles plates were federal!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The NAFTA legacy of Bill and Hillary Clinton, soon to be followed by Trade Agreement negotiated by Secy of State Clinton for Obama. Hillary is for the 'middle class'. Right!! "1400 Employees Jobs Move to Mexico. A crowd of Carrier manufacturing workers erupted into anger Wednesday as they learned their plant was being relocated to Monterrey, Mexico. Carrier, an Indianapolis-based heating, ventilation and air conditioning company owned by United Technologies, announced in a statement on Wednesday that the plant would undergo a three-year transition to Mexico starting in 2017. A man identified as company president Chris Nelson was recorded on camera delivering the news to a large crowd of employees, who reacted with jeers and obscenities." Wonder how many of these employees will vote for Hillary? Why should they?	0	0	0	0	0.166667	0.166667	0.166667
They have the money and we're going to take it.......by force if necessary!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The fight over Kesey Square is like an action-packed event or show. Be sure and take your phone off-the-hook and have your popcorn in hand, you don't want to miss one scene. The show ramps-up nicely, as the downtown is developed, thanks to Envision Eugene's sardine-style densification, (which has been fueled by tax exemptions that are indirectly funded by increased storm water fees and the library levy.) However the plot thickens. The city has one problem that seems to be ruining their grand plans for the downtown; those pesky travelers, transients, homeless, etc. Don't these people know they were never included in the city's plans? Don't they know they were never invited to the city's "Envision" party, and that Kesey Square is only for a certain segment of the public? Gosh, the mayor and the city just can't accept this , no way. So, develop the square and displace these party-crashers to the new and inviting city hall. Problem solved, but get really for the second sequel.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gosh Sarah, you sound like you're about to be layed-off. Maybe you should apply at the city, they may have an open position for you.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Hillary: As the lead law enforcement official in the county, Dave Ward has been the spokesperson since the beginning, guess you should try and keep up.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I'm well aware that the FBI has been the lead agency. I'm also aware that Sheriff Ward has been closely involved in the law enforcement decisions and the interface with the public and the media as well as with the Bundys and their buddies. I think he has done a great job under very difficult conditions. The "guess you didn't get that memo?" is an unnecessary snide remark. If you're critical of Sheriff Ward's action, perhaps you might list what, in your opinion, he has done wrong.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
You two really don't like each other eh? Y'all ARE cute together tho.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gary: Sorry but sarcasm doesn't always come through as wanted. I actually thought that the line referring to Girl Scouts, would have been a tip off.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Occupy Eugene had an exemption to be at Jefferson Park. When the permit was not renewed by the city they left. You are correct that the FBI never would have shown up if Malheurians acted like Occupy Eugene. But illegally occupying federal land, stealing the vehicles and threatening to shoot anyone that tries to arrest you tends to generate a different response than getting a permit and leaving when the permit expires.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
“We can’t continue to go on tearing each other apart, hating each other because of differences of opinion. ... There’s no way we’re going to fix this country if we’re all mad at each other and fighting.”	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I'm so relieved that law enforcement has "united" us. Now I'm just waiting for the report from the pathologist to see if there is a deeply-rooted cancer in government.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
indeed, the vehicle plates, as reported by the former chief, were federal tags. So what? If the former chief's comments are accurate, the agents were rather "ham handed". The could have, and in my opinion, should have simply said, "this is a National Armory and weapons are stored here. We have been assessing the security of the facility." Which, I'd guess is exactly what they were doing. However, the key issue I addressed was the misquoting of the chief saying he'd commented that the FBI was impersonating "occupiers" and "stirring up trouble by doing so." Those comments were NOT made by the former fire chief.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
So why do I support Democratic socialism. It balances and reigns in capitalism. Gives us all a more level playing field. Brings about a bit of fairness. Yeah i know...life isnt fair. And why is this? Because the few dont want fairness and equality. It might cut into their profit margin. Now we've tried conservative policy for a few decades and it has benefited those already with enough. Oh cut regulations and remove taxes? Done that. So where are all of those good paying jobs? What has that policy done to the fabric of America. Caused more poverty and dissent. We've tried the conservative way. It hurts the majority of the regular workers. Those not earning 100,000 or more. Average income in Oregon...about 29,000 dollars. so tell me why I shouldn't want to vote for Bernie? I want to live in a country that values it's citizens. Not using them to enrich the few and denigrates the many. So yes I will be casting a vote for Bernie and Democratic Socialism. Ran out of characters in last post.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Hey ... wait just a darn minute! Hasn't Mayor Piercy been telling us that the Downtown <I>was already</I> "revitalized? If work remains to be done, I suggest we wait another 8 years until the Crapstone Student Ghetto starts paying taxes. -- Paul	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Oregon is fortunate to not be like most athletic programs requiring tens of millions of tuition dollars be spent subsidizing the arms race of those programs. However, it is worthwhile to consider that football makes a lot of money and spends a lot of money--the two are not completely intertwined. Every football program in the country could agree to spend no more than $2 million dollars a year on head coaches, and tax athletics for 10% of TV revenue and they would all be running break even and the football programs would be just fine. Likewise, the foundations that court donors could offer season tickets for donations to any part of the university rather than just athletics, or do a better job of showing potential donors how their dollars could help with other programs. I think tax-exempt organizations also have a responsibility to show restraint rather than funneling money that could be taxes to very high personal salaries.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I hope you are joking. Imagine all those 'A' students who get hired by corporations will have their teachers to thank if they get laid off. And 1/3rd of business owners are now women. Let's have some perspective here and not keep using stereotypes to dehumanize the private sector.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
William: the Girl Scouts reference did wave that "red flag". However, it's sometimes tough to be sarcastic when some other individuals are posting about the same things and not "kidding" at all. My apologies for not recognizing it. best wishes, Gary	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
No he did not. The communist media lies. Obama lies. The Democrats who voted for Obama lies. The FBI defending land grabs lie. The BLM lies. You lie. You're on the wrong side of history, only you're too far gone to realize it.	0.5	0	0.1	0	0.6	0.1	0
I was in SEIU and they use a stead flow of fear-mongering. I admit, I fell for it then. After I got away from it and could see that the Mexicans really were invading. Millions have come here uninvited and now they are enrolling their children in Texas schools though neither the parents OR the students were born here - that is an invasion. So, fear-mongering is on both sides, including the fear mongering by the left.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
By all means, raise the minimum wage. But realize there will be significant consequences for doing so. Raise it to $12.50, the minimum of three tiered amounts passed February 11 in Senate bill 1532, and those already making $12.50 will rightly want a raise for their experience since new employees with no experience will now make as much. Those businesses with lots of entry level jobs will cut staffing to keep expenses in line with income. Regardless of the minimum wage level, no business stays open long without profit. That's the system we currently live with. The new minimum is actually too low to cut public assistance for any but single member households. A single and parent with one child, or a childless couple will still make less than the 185% of the Federal poverty level. If the new format for public comments allowed more typed characters there are many other examples. There isn't enough room for comprehensive, researched comment any longer. I've noticed fewer comments.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
They did observe--the waves that resulted from the collision.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Unlike those Hitler went after in Nazi Germany where he merely sought scapegoats, there are dozens of specific proven and convicted in court, members of a particularly vile sect of Islam who have and are continuing to commit and encourage others to commit murder, mayhem, and similar crimes against innocent people here in the United States as well as around the world. Failing to acknowledge that is an ostrich-like pose. Trump's statements that illegal Mexicans have committed murders, rapes, robberies, heroin and methamphetamine offenses has also been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in both State and Federal Courts and resulted in sentences to prison for those found guilty. That there are Muslims and Mexican illegal immigrants who are innocent of those crimes doesn't mean we have to ignore and give a free pass to those who are guilty of those crimes or that we shouldn't carefully examine to figure out who belongs in each category just to protect ourselves.	0.3	0	0	0	0.3	0.4	0
Who do I vote for if I want law and order?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Those three men were central to the formation of the ID movement, and the Discovery Institute. Two others would be John West, and Michael Behe.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
boy, enough can't be said for safety equipment. thank god this guy had a hat on and built in mechanical safeguards on his equipment ( can hardly bare to think of his accident...) . his angel is on his shoulder and maybe he should buy a lottery ticket. speedy and full recovery to him...	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
"I think tax-exempt organizations also have a responsibility to show restraint rather than funneling money that could be taxes to very high personal salaries." In that group, do you include SEIU, Planned Parenthood, United Way, and similar 501c3 tax exempt corporations? They justify their CEO's salaries based on the amount of money they obtain and disburse, sort of like the U of O Athletic Program does; Athletics just makes more money.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
White men have been FARMERS for a long, long time. FARM-OWNERS, I should say. What a terrible, terrible thing to do with your life - grow crops to share with others, raise animals to sell to city folks....	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
How was it an ordeal for most people? I don't see it. I actually am very interested in their complaints. Especially that farms were intentionally burned by the BLM in Idaho even when farmers begged the BLM to stop. And when the farmer's properties were burned they asked for reimbursement and were refused. I think there needs to be a much deeper investigation of the BLM employees and their overzealous approach. These people grow and raise our food. I am fifth generation Oregonian and our ancestors came here to FARM.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I have no idea if you are "slow" or not. Your remark that a cell is "a closed system of self-sustaining chemical reactions" tells me that you know very little biology. Your comment that we "have no quantitative model which demonstrates the transition" of chemistry to biology tells me you have not read much about abiogenesis research. For examples, see; Lee DH, Severin K, Yokobayashi Y, and Ghadiri MR, 1997 "Emergence of symbiosis in peptide self-replication through a hypercyclic network" Nature, 390: 591-4, Anthony D. Keefe, Jack W. Szostak 2001 “Functional proteins from a random-sequence library” Nature 410, 715-718 Ekland, EH, JW Szostak, and DP Bartel 1995 "Structurally complex and highly active RNA ligases derived from random RNA sequences" Science 21 July 1995: Vol. 269. no. 5222, pp. 364 - 370 For a a good review see Deamer, David W. 2011 “First Life: Discovering the Connections between Stars, Cells, and How Life Began” University of California Press	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
And yet our ancestors who fought the English for your independence AMBUSHED English soldiers.	0.2	0	0	0	0	0.1	0
only addressing the lawyer situation you mention with "motives". arnold wasn't very high profile during this long ordeal.. not all over the media.... that is usually the hallmark of a publicity driven attorney. this situation and it's resolution certainly won't hurt his reputation, but he may have earned the respect...we will probably never know the extent of his influence. sounds like the government is going down a laundry list of charges...	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Residence in our local county hoosegow will be quite educational for Bundy and his troops. There, they will meet lots of interesting people. We got black gangstas, and brown gangstas, methheads and assorted other felons.	0.6	0	0	0	0.3	0.6	0
Let me be the 1st to congratulate you Galen! Great Job! Well done! You make Oregon proud and you are on your way to a gold medal !	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Some Oregonians can join the Daughters of the American Revolution. Both blacks and whites are members and they number about 170,000 nationwide. You can learn about how our ancestors fought the English. If you think this the original patriots were non-violent, you have go to do some research!	0.2	0	0	0	0.1	0.4	0
well, fiore sounds delusional. how can this be assessed as a " free, peaceful assembly...nobody pointed a gun at anybody."? that was her response to to the reporter that irked her? is she advocating for more armed occupations?	0.2	0	0	0	0.2	0	0
Ahh, good point!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I do include those. Mary Kay Henry (CEO of SEIU) makes $300,000 (according to http://workercenterwatch.com/one-percenter-seiu-president-arrested-farcical-protests/ ) and SEIU has a revenue of $300 million. So she makes 1/10th the salary for running an operation with 2-3X the revenue. Given this salary rate of 0.1% of revenue, Mark Helfrich would make $100,000! PP CEO Cecile Richards' salary was $590,928 and revenue of $1.3 billion. She makes 1/6th the salary for running an organization with 10x the revenue. Given this salary rate of 0.05% of revenue, Mark Helfrich would make $50,000! I think my suggestion of a little restraint and a salary of $2M would still be extravagant by any measure. Even CEOs of for-profit companies average a total pay of $600,000 for running companies with revenues more than $100,000,000, so Helfrich is doing quite well (5x better) using for-profit companies as a yardstick.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Any time there is enough mass in a small enough space, a black hole forms. They are likely forming all the time.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
If I were either the mayor of Eugene or the president of Downtown Eugene Inc, I'd be eating lunch and otherwise hanging in the square every day and/or evening, inviting my friends, coordinating events, doing what I'm supposed to do to make it better supervised, more inviting, "safer." We'll always have good offers to sell the heart of Eugene. For now, DEI etc. needs to focus on making what we've got there better. Thanks you for reading this.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I also find the "civil" comment-reply layout makes it much more difficult to follow a conversation than the disqus layout.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
"....reading/watching everything is how one becomes informed". And that's why I asked jcal "Could you please supply links to where you found this information so we all can be as well informed as you?" . Since he's not responded, perhaps you could provide links so those of us less informed than yourself can expand our horizons.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I'm personally having an incredibly hard time even seeing comments under the new system, let alone being able to post. (This is my first successful access...) The system keeps kicking me over to the "e-subscription" version of the RG, which apparently has no means of accessing the comment sections. What am I missing here? :-/	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Silverhorn, comments are only included on the website, I believe, not the e-Edition.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I appreciated that Mayor Hales gave me the option of receiving a refund (on my very modest contribution) or to donate it to a charity. I chose the latter.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
After forcing the Paiute tribes off the lands, another example of federal government abuses, FDR proclaimed the lake area as a wildlife refuge of approx..80,000 acres. After the Natives were forced into reservations and the refuge was made some of the surrounding lands were purchased by homesteaders/Ranchers. Little by little the refuge was expanded to what it is now approx..185,000 acres. During those decades ranchers were basically forced to sell the land relocate and purchase grazing rights. The whole point of my argument is that once some purchases any lands it should be there's to decide what to do with it. Selling at fair market value would be appropriate. Forced to sell at 10% value should not be acceptable. Our Constitution is continually altered to suit the government's desires, not we the people's. These latest land issues are in response to the fed govt. expanding the size of Nat. Forests, Wildlife Refuges and Nat. Parks. Time will tell the truth, follow the money trail.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Laura, I feel it necessary to inform you that your point of view is rather old and needs a modern re-examination. No ID proponent has a problem with microevolution, because it is statistically possible, (2 base pair mutation in single celled and single mutational event, in a mammal, for example). These are entirely expected, the math supports it. Was cannot be supported, are multiple mutations required for a Selectable Advantage, this is certainly a requirement for macro evolution. Much recent work has revealed many Latent genetic and regulator instructions, in all life, that change the organism when stressed. The changes follow a predictable pattern, when creatures are stressed in the same manner. The Evolution Revolution, by Lee Spetner, lists many specific examples of this. What appears to be going on, are environmental adaptations brought about, by built in information, not the gradual accumulation of micro evolution. Reality suggests, creatures preloaded with information.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
In the sports world, however, the University of Oregon, like the other upper level sports schools, are essentially farm teams for the NFL. The coaches and assistant coaches move back and forth and up and down in the football industry which has a lot more money then most corporations. Their tenure is not guaranteed and their excessive salaries serve the same purpose as the stock options and severance pay of CEO's of the large corporations' 'golden parachutes' when they lose too many football games.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The complaints were for being offered 10% value to sell their land. Others paid grazing rights fees to use open public/federal lands. The Constitution states the Federal Government can only own 10 miles of land in the District of Columbia unless needed for forts, ports and federal post offices. Other than that the land belongs to the States. The States may request help to manage lands but that does not give them jurisdiction of the lands. The government has been bullying people off the lands since it began altering the Constitution.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Seriously? I'm sorry, but "ignorance is bliss" is a statement that couldn't be more true about your post. Obama has stood up to whom exactly? The last time I checked he has stood up for the common criminal more often than any one single group. He has stuck his nose in business where it doesn't belong and has only succeeded in perpetuating more problems rather than helping to solve them. So yeah, seriously...the world must look great through your rose colored lenses. The life of a sheeple....what a blissful one it must be...	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
It's not surprising that the editorial writer misunderstands the significance of this; the press in general has not explained it properly. There seems to be an assumption that gravity waves are something transitory, like the waves on a body of water. Not so - what this proves is that gravity propagates in waves, just as light and electromagnetic radiation do. Our understanding of light waves and electromagnetic waves have lead to incredible engineering breakthroughs and inventions in the last century - I won't bother to list them here (though we could start with radio...). The mind reels at the things we may achieve now that we have a better understanding of the fundamental nature of gravity!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
What you are really saying is that if we can't observe it, we might as well not try to do science on it.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
In my opinion, the FBI and OSP put more stress on the citizenry of Haney, with their huge military build up, than the protestors did. You Feds must think we are naive to believe the line you are spewing! You murdered Lavoy, it's plain as the nose on your face!	0.7	0	0	0	0.6	0	0
Coaches do get fired frequently (too frequently). I have little sympathy for the job security argument though. Normal folks also get fired and don't continue to be paid for the length of their contract. Wasn't Charlie Weiss being paid by Notre Dame two jobs later? Those kind of guarantees should decrease their salary, not increase! Competitive pay is a reasonable argument. Capping pay will undoubtedly cause some of the best coaches to seek jobs in the NFL. But how many could really make that move? We are talking about 1-2 coaches a year at most. So to stop that we instead have a system where 90% of the schools transfer money directly from student tuition to athletic departments when they transfer money for subsidies. For athletic departments to take hundreds of dollars per year from 20,000 students taking loans to attend school should require extraordinary need and extraordinary benefits.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
He was a Justice who recklessly abandoned stare decisis to further his aims. He took us five steps towards fascism, made our nation a plutocracy and almost made it a theocracy. He actually referred to his work as that of a cultural warrior. His judicial philosophy was quite simply corporations over the government and police over people with the wealthy over all. Condolences to his family and friends, but our nation is better with him no longer on the bench.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Why would multiple mutations be required for a selectable advantage? Why would it be improbable for multiple mutations to be present? You and I have 3 million or so different mutations causing differences between us. Many do nothing, some cause a little difference in our function... are you saying that for some reason creatures can hold millions of genetic differences, but it would be impossible for multiple differences to act in the same pathway? Or I should ask, why do you think it is possible for us to have millions of mutations but that having two acting together to create a larger difference is impossible?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
As somewhat expected, "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Saturday that the Senate should wait until a new president is elected to confirm a replacement for Justice Antonin Scalia". So 11 months is a threshold at which point a President needs to defer to the next one? Or is that magic threshold maybe a year, maybe even longer? It seems like this could easily be a slippery slope where we'll end up with Presidents only being allowed to appoint a new Justice right after being sworn in!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Our definition of a "publicity driven attorney" must be different - Arnold and his associates sought out the representation of those at the Refuge , he and his associates have held multiple "news conferences" while other defense counsel have not, he appears to make himself available for any press opportunities and he drove Fiore down to the Refuge on an "unexpected" trip where he was walking around at the roadblock in a suit amongst the media (he didn't have a suit on in the pics of him at the Portland airport picking up Fiore) while his client was already in custody back in Portland. A review of his social media seems to confirm that he and his firm strive to seek publicity while trying to market themselves. This all started with the Hammonds and their plight - I find the attempt by others to use the Hammonds to advance their own agendas and visibility very distasteful.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Well, this is certainly going to be interesting. To begin with, it will probably be at least two years before there is a new appointment given the upcoming elections and the political makeup of the Senate. During that time I suspect that we will see a number of appeals that are already in the pipeline affirmed by an evenly divided court (that is what happens with a tie). It is also likely that there will be a lot more backroom maneuvering on the court in deciding what cases to take for review given the 4-4 split.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The University of Oregon doesn't "transfer money directly from student tuition to athletic departments when they transfer money for subsidies." If your 90% figure is accurate, those other schools must think that they are gaining something from the practice, however. I don't really care about Alabama or Michigan or those other schools that might be doing that. Since the U of O isn't attracting enough scholars to keep their 1969 reputation in research and keep losing the scholars who are generating the academic grants to other universities, I think that is what the academics and administrators who aren't going to get any of that sports money should be worrying about. The Legislature keeps reducing the funding, the U of O now has the authority it asked for to go get its own money, now is the time to fix what needs fixing on the academic side if they are capable of doing so. If not, we need to identify why not and fix that.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I am sorry you feel this way about a good man. You will find there are quite a few people in the US that will disagree with you. I, for one, feel that his death causes major problems for the country. I feel that the liberal justices appointed by Obama and others have been forcing this country down the wrong path for a long time. This is why I hope that Obama does not get a new appointment through the Senate this year.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I know it's my opinion, but the country won't get fixed by me or others simply shutting up, going along to get along, and abandoning our beliefs and values. The country will not get fixed by keeping my mouth shut, swallowing my disagreement, and playing nicey-nice with people who advocate for genocidal wars, corporate scams, and mega-governments which continue to accrue and centralize power and control. I disagree with centralized governmen and corporate power, and I am not afraid to say what I believe. It is not hateful or uncivilized for me to do so. Enough with the guilt tripping. It doesn't work on me. I think that all these divisive political sideshows, petty fighting and social discohesion are promoted as convenient smokescreens. A divided house cannot stop the robbers. While the vast majority of Americans fight and squabble and hate, banksters and megacorporate barons are robbing us blind from behind the curtain of all the distractions, sufferings, bread and circuses.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
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"Fiore, an occupation sympathizer..." This article makes me feel sick. An insult to Oregonians who have tolerated 41 days and more from this unwanted intrusion. An insult to the LE that put their lives and reputations at risk to resolve this. The mutual admiration between her and Bundy's counsel is to be expected.	0.166667	0	0	0	0.166667	0	0
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Obviously the FBI didn't find the damage they were looking for and are now digging for something to add charges. Without knowing the exact condition the artifacts were in prior to the protesters arrival it would be fraudulent to even make the accusations and is such a waste of more money already wasted by FBI and Gov. Brown. The protesters actually took photos of how the refuge was and its contents along with video and has been reported on multiple news outlets minus the main stream media of course. I see several comments from black libs talking about the protesters whiteness and white privilege. Defending Liberty is not about race and if you have allowed yourself to buy into those lies instead of fact checking and researching the issue then you have your own ignorance to blame for the loss of your freedoms. after the hypocrisy of so many BLM protesters on this issue they have lost millions of white supporters for their cause.	0.2	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.2	0.1	0
you make good points. i'm thinking al sharpton..Gloria allred , etc. kind of publicity suckers. but it sounds like allegedly - I 'm taking your word, so allegedly he was putting himself out front for exposure, but he made no big splash. and ultimately he was part of the team of people who finally defused the situation. so, still kudos to mr Arnold.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
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This entire situation concerns money interests. The health of any community involves many more facets than generated income. Much of the development that has occurred since the 70's has been very positive for downtown Eugene as a thriving active center. But along with this comes some negatives. Eugene used to b e a nice large town to visit. Now it more resembles a concrete jungle metropolis along with all of the trimmings, many that are not very nice. The urban intimidation factor is now most definitely present. Contrary to the development mentality is the perspective of the value of open space. Kesey Square is open space and within an concrete jungle open space brings a welcome breath of fresh air. There exists a wealth of structures within the general downtown district that are in need of renovation and/or development. Focus on these and please leave the little open space left as it is for the health and enjoyment of all the citizens and visitors of Eugene.

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I think the letters have not been posted yesterday or today. Don't know if it relates to the new "Civil" system.

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Wow. Talk about special treatment. This cop, like all people authorized to carry guns and restrict citizens' freedom, should be held to a higher standard, not a lower one. I'm not surprised, but disappointed by this slap on the wrist. Looks like Portland continues to be all talk and no show when it comes to cleaning up the force. Can't help but wonder what other abuses of power this guy got away with in his years on the city payroll.

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I get it, and I am open to the idea that the other ordering forces outside current models. I think that this is a worthy point of inquiry and one POV that should be explored. To take the leap that the other ordering forces are intelligent in nature (or must be, as some ID proponents claim) is a very very bold leap. If ID proponents were to change the name and the tone of the rhetoric, I know I for one would be more open accepting that the conversation they are trying to have is a valid one. I do think that leaving it as 'not currently understood' is the right way to frame it, instead of many ID proponents who proclaim, "not currently understood, and therefore MUST BE intelligent." It may be intelligent, it may not be. It is not explored, and we need to keep exploring it, with the understanding that the outcome may result in either outcome being true.

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Thank GOD we have a team of government trolls (DEA) to keep us safe from a bunch of plants! What about violent crime? Theft? Robberies? Ponzi schemes? TERRORISM? Na, that could be dangerous! Lets keep wasting SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS A DAY chasing plants! AssClowns

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Soliciting money from friends to run for office, changing your mind, then keeping most of the money may be legal, but how is it honorable? And how can it be right to then give those other people's money to a candidate who hadn't even declared when hopeful founders gave to Charlie's campaign?

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Ha! I totally forgot about good ol Joe "both barrels" Biden. Why would such a staunch advocate of gun control promote such a reckless course of action? The answer is ignorance I'd wager.

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JP, which letters? Letters to the Editor?

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And if he had called 911 and said: "he thought he heard someone trying to break in," , would a police officer have appeared? At 11:45 am?

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"Free, peaceful assembly, and that is exactly what happened" Ms Flore sounds like she's kidding, but, I fear she isn't. The armed Bundy militia seized and with weapons, occupied federal property. They threatened to us physical force against anyone who attempted to physically remove them. Since they had firearms, one might infer that such resistance might include use of those guns. They broke into buildings, files, and a storage area which housed Paiute historical artifacts. They, without permission, used government owned equipment and vehicles. The broke several, if not many, federal laws. Ms. Flore describes this as "peaceful assembly." The armed occupiers will face criminal charges for their actions....as they should. I suggest Ms Flore might doublecheck the definition of "peaceful assembly." The last time I checked it, it did not include "freedom" to break laws without facing the legal consequences of such actions.

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Sorry folks, Springfield is the real Kesey corner, go see it. Ground floor can be open design while another concrete phallus be raised above it.... dollah bricks for sale.

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NO MORE TAXES! PERIOD. You have enough already. Control your spending.

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My goodness....Do you really think a politician and an attorney would conspire to self-promote? You are such a cynic. The Law Enforcement officials involved in the Malheur occupation action are to congratulated for their patience and self-discipline. They're the heroes of this incident, not the armed occupiers or Arnold and Flore who came to the Refuge to "strut upon the stage" in their tawdry show of self-promotion.

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ID isn't science. I would like to see science originate something out of nothing.

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Well stated, sir. Sheriff Ward is to be honored for his patience and good judgment.

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In my opinion, our comment shows disdain for the character and judgment of the people of Harney County. Sheriff Ward acted in a very patient fashion and worked assiduously to keep the situation from escalating into a gun-battle. He has my admiration and respect.

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Is there a beginning of time? What existed at the beginning of time, and how did it originate? Is there an end to the universe, and if there is, what's beyond that? Until science can answer those questions, I'll put my faith in ID so I won't have to pray to Chuck Darwin in times of need or grief.

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“We can’t continue to go on tearing each other apart, hating each other because of differences of opinion. ... There’s no way we’re going to fix this country if we’re all mad at each other and fighting.” I couldn't agree more.

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Does it bother anybody else how much of this Kesey Square proposal is about the behavior of the people who hang out there for long hours? Specifically, the badgering, bullying, and threats? Rather than the square itself, how it relates to the downtown area physically? If the goal is in fact dealing with that behavior (and I'm not sure, just asking), then will putting a building over it solve it? And if it doesn't solve it, won't we kind of miss the square afterwards? I agree with @rustystill's concerns about the overly urban feel of it and the lack of open space. I think we want a downtown with a Eugene OR feel to it, not a Disney-like mock-up of a miniature Manhattan.

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So you're saying that science doesn't have all the answers but you have faith that it will some day? That makes science faith based, same as ID. ID is much easier to believe, as the eternal Creator has no reason to lie or manipulate data like humans.

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Yes. Everyone believes their actions are justified, regardless of how unconscionable they appear (and possibly are) to outsiders. That doesn't make those who wrong us right, but maintaining some level of compassion can make real progress a lot more likely.

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Nope, not related to Civil Comments. Just a run-of-the-mill production error. The Saturday letters are posted now.

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How can anything in this opinion be stated or assumed as fact ? “About 1.3 billion years ago” ? Was anybody there to see it ? The most humorous aspect of this opinion is the “about” clause regarding the time, as if there could not be any “about” clause before anything else. Sorry guys, I don’t get it…I thought science was supposed to be observed.

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Well John LSD is illegal for you also

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It has, and always will be, about the people who congregate in the square. If the square is developed, this bunch will congregate somewhere else, like at the new city hall.

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Once again, ignorance of the subject matter is displayed. The Football program and Basketball programs, as supported by donations, supports itself as well as many 'minor' sports. That money is not available for any other purpose. If you have poor vision in one eye, sticking your finger in the other eye will not make you see better.

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AlwaysThere, oh dear, that's crushing. Here I am believing that the earth orbits around the sun, that there are planets, that dinosaurs once roamed the earth, that what we see as stars in the sky are galaxies and beyond ... but if all of that is just assumptions, damn. So sad.

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maybe you should expand your horizons a little and not just read or listen to one side....reading/watching everything is how one becomes informed

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More conservative policy spells disaster. Just ask the residents of Flint Michigan. Then there's Kansas. Being sued by all sorts of people for lack of education money. The courts have even weighed in on this one. Yes lets deregulate everything and sacrifice the health and safety of our citizens. Conservative policy has exploded our homeless population and caused millions of jobs to leave the US. Its all about profit not people. How has all of this profit benefited the majority? More jobs leaving the US as I type. More blame being laid at the feet of the victims of this policy not the perpetrators. What a messed up system that has failed miserably. And what do conservatives want.? More of the same. More poverty for those who cant afford college. More back breaking long hours while holding several jobs just to be told you are not working hard enough. The little people paying more and more for every thing while those with the largest assets come up with ways to pay less.

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It seems educators do not know that they are discouraging the best business students by constantly placing blame and guilt on corporations. Are these corporate leaders super successful? Yes. They were in all of our classes in school. Am I the only Oregon student who wishes successful classmates well? And thanks, corporations, for giving Oregon a tax base - especially in Washington County - that is superb. Intel and Nike should get thank you cards from educators. Educators should show some gratitude for the revenue the entire state benefits from.

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my comment was to Charlie & the rest who only appear to be getting a one sided view ...and Gary you left out the part where the fire chief states that the vehicles plates were federal!

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The NAFTA legacy of Bill and Hillary Clinton, soon to be followed by Trade Agreement negotiated by Secy of State Clinton for Obama. Hillary is for the 'middle class'. Right!! "1400 Employees Jobs Move to Mexico. A crowd of Carrier manufacturing workers erupted into anger Wednesday as they learned their plant was being relocated to Monterrey, Mexico. Carrier, an Indianapolis-based heating, ventilation and air conditioning company owned by United Technologies, announced in a statement on Wednesday that the plant would undergo a three-year transition to Mexico starting in 2017. A man identified as company president Chris Nelson was recorded on camera delivering the news to a large crowd of employees, who reacted with jeers and obscenities." Wonder how many of these employees will vote for Hillary? Why should they?

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The fight over Kesey Square is like an action-packed event or show. Be sure and take your phone off-the-hook and have your popcorn in hand, you don't want to miss one scene. The show ramps-up nicely, as the downtown is developed, thanks to Envision Eugene's sardine-style densification, (which has been fueled by tax exemptions that are indirectly funded by increased storm water fees and the library levy.) However the plot thickens. The city has one problem that seems to be ruining their grand plans for the downtown; those pesky travelers, transients, homeless, etc. Don't these people know they were never included in the city's plans? Don't they know they were never invited to the city's "Envision" party, and that Kesey Square is only for a certain segment of the public? Gosh, the mayor and the city just can't accept this , no way. So, develop the square and displace these party-crashers to the new and inviting city hall. Problem solved, but get really for the second sequel.

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Gosh Sarah, you sound like you're about to be layed-off. Maybe you should apply at the city, they may have an open position for you.

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Hillary: As the lead law enforcement official in the county, Dave Ward has been the spokesperson since the beginning, guess you should try and keep up.

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I'm well aware that the FBI has been the lead agency. I'm also aware that Sheriff Ward has been closely involved in the law enforcement decisions and the interface with the public and the media as well as with the Bundys and their buddies. I think he has done a great job under very difficult conditions. The "guess you didn't get that memo?" is an unnecessary snide remark. If you're critical of Sheriff Ward's action, perhaps you might list what, in your opinion, he has done wrong.

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You two really don't like each other eh? Y'all ARE cute together tho.

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Gary: Sorry but sarcasm doesn't always come through as wanted. I actually thought that the line referring to Girl Scouts, would have been a tip off.

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Occupy Eugene had an exemption to be at Jefferson Park. When the permit was not renewed by the city they left. You are correct that the FBI never would have shown up if Malheurians acted like Occupy Eugene. But illegally occupying federal land, stealing the vehicles and threatening to shoot anyone that tries to arrest you tends to generate a different response than getting a permit and leaving when the permit expires.

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“We can’t continue to go on tearing each other apart, hating each other because of differences of opinion. ... There’s no way we’re going to fix this country if we’re all mad at each other and fighting.”

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I'm so relieved that law enforcement has "united" us. Now I'm just waiting for the report from the pathologist to see if there is a deeply-rooted cancer in government.

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indeed, the vehicle plates, as reported by the former chief, were federal tags. So what? If the former chief's comments are accurate, the agents were rather "ham handed". The could have, and in my opinion, should have simply said, "this is a National Armory and weapons are stored here. We have been assessing the security of the facility." Which, I'd guess is exactly what they were doing. However, the key issue I addressed was the misquoting of the chief saying he'd commented that the FBI was impersonating "occupiers" and "stirring up trouble by doing so." Those comments were NOT made by the former fire chief.

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So why do I support Democratic socialism. It balances and reigns in capitalism. Gives us all a more level playing field. Brings about a bit of fairness. Yeah i know...life isnt fair. And why is this? Because the few dont want fairness and equality. It might cut into their profit margin. Now we've tried conservative policy for a few decades and it has benefited those already with enough. Oh cut regulations and remove taxes? Done that. So where are all of those good paying jobs? What has that policy done to the fabric of America. Caused more poverty and dissent. We've tried the conservative way. It hurts the majority of the regular workers. Those not earning 100,000 or more. Average income in Oregon...about 29,000 dollars. so tell me why I shouldn't want to vote for Bernie? I want to live in a country that values it's citizens. Not using them to enrich the few and denigrates the many. So yes I will be casting a vote for Bernie and Democratic Socialism. Ran out of characters in last post.

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Hey ... wait just a darn minute! Hasn't Mayor Piercy been telling us that the Downtown <I>was already</I> "revitalized? If work remains to be done, I suggest we wait another 8 years until the Crapstone Student Ghetto starts paying taxes. -- Paul

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Oregon is fortunate to not be like most athletic programs requiring tens of millions of tuition dollars be spent subsidizing the arms race of those programs. However, it is worthwhile to consider that football makes a lot of money and spends a lot of money--the two are not completely intertwined. Every football program in the country could agree to spend no more than $2 million dollars a year on head coaches, and tax athletics for 10% of TV revenue and they would all be running break even and the football programs would be just fine. Likewise, the foundations that court donors could offer season tickets for donations to any part of the university rather than just athletics, or do a better job of showing potential donors how their dollars could help with other programs. I think tax-exempt organizations also have a responsibility to show restraint rather than funneling money that could be taxes to very high personal salaries.

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I hope you are joking. Imagine all those 'A' students who get hired by corporations will have their teachers to thank if they get laid off. And 1/3rd of business owners are now women. Let's have some perspective here and not keep using stereotypes to dehumanize the private sector.

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William: the Girl Scouts reference did wave that "red flag". However, it's sometimes tough to be sarcastic when some other individuals are posting about the same things and not "kidding" at all. My apologies for not recognizing it. best wishes, Gary

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No he did not. The communist media lies. Obama lies. The Democrats who voted for Obama lies. The FBI defending land grabs lie. The BLM lies. You lie. You're on the wrong side of history, only you're too far gone to realize it.

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I was in SEIU and they use a stead flow of fear-mongering. I admit, I fell for it then. After I got away from it and could see that the Mexicans really were invading. Millions have come here uninvited and now they are enrolling their children in Texas schools though neither the parents OR the students were born here - that is an invasion. So, fear-mongering is on both sides, including the fear mongering by the left.

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By all means, raise the minimum wage. But realize there will be significant consequences for doing so. Raise it to $12.50, the minimum of three tiered amounts passed February 11 in Senate bill 1532, and those already making $12.50 will rightly want a raise for their experience since new employees with no experience will now make as much. Those businesses with lots of entry level jobs will cut staffing to keep expenses in line with income. Regardless of the minimum wage level, no business stays open long without profit. That's the system we currently live with. The new minimum is actually too low to cut public assistance for any but single member households. A single and parent with one child, or a childless couple will still make less than the 185% of the Federal poverty level. If the new format for public comments allowed more typed characters there are many other examples. There isn't enough room for comprehensive, researched comment any longer. I've noticed fewer comments.

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They did observe--the waves that resulted from the collision.

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Unlike those Hitler went after in Nazi Germany where he merely sought scapegoats, there are dozens of specific proven and convicted in court, members of a particularly vile sect of Islam who have and are continuing to commit and encourage others to commit murder, mayhem, and similar crimes against innocent people here in the United States as well as around the world. Failing to acknowledge that is an ostrich-like pose. Trump's statements that illegal Mexicans have committed murders, rapes, robberies, heroin and methamphetamine offenses has also been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in both State and Federal Courts and resulted in sentences to prison for those found guilty. That there are Muslims and Mexican illegal immigrants who are innocent of those crimes doesn't mean we have to ignore and give a free pass to those who are guilty of those crimes or that we shouldn't carefully examine to figure out who belongs in each category just to protect ourselves.

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Who do I vote for if I want law and order?

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Those three men were central to the formation of the ID movement, and the Discovery Institute. Two others would be John West, and Michael Behe.

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boy, enough can't be said for safety equipment. thank god this guy had a hat on and built in mechanical safeguards on his equipment ( can hardly bare to think of his accident...) . his angel is on his shoulder and maybe he should buy a lottery ticket. speedy and full recovery to him...

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"I think tax-exempt organizations also have a responsibility to show restraint rather than funneling money that could be taxes to very high personal salaries." In that group, do you include SEIU, Planned Parenthood, United Way, and similar 501c3 tax exempt corporations? They justify their CEO's salaries based on the amount of money they obtain and disburse, sort of like the U of O Athletic Program does; Athletics just makes more money.

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White men have been FARMERS for a long, long time. FARM-OWNERS, I should say. What a terrible, terrible thing to do with your life - grow crops to share with others, raise animals to sell to city folks....

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How was it an ordeal for most people? I don't see it. I actually am very interested in their complaints. Especially that farms were intentionally burned by the BLM in Idaho even when farmers begged the BLM to stop. And when the farmer's properties were burned they asked for reimbursement and were refused. I think there needs to be a much deeper investigation of the BLM employees and their overzealous approach. These people grow and raise our food. I am fifth generation Oregonian and our ancestors came here to FARM.

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I have no idea if you are "slow" or not. Your remark that a cell is "a closed system of self-sustaining chemical reactions" tells me that you know very little biology. Your comment that we "have no quantitative model which demonstrates the transition" of chemistry to biology tells me you have not read much about abiogenesis research. For examples, see; Lee DH, Severin K, Yokobayashi Y, and Ghadiri MR, 1997 "Emergence of symbiosis in peptide self-replication through a hypercyclic network" Nature, 390: 591-4, Anthony D. Keefe, Jack W. Szostak 2001 “Functional proteins from a random-sequence library” Nature 410, 715-718 Ekland, EH, JW Szostak, and DP Bartel 1995 "Structurally complex and highly active RNA ligases derived from random RNA sequences" Science 21 July 1995: Vol. 269. no. 5222, pp. 364 - 370 For a a good review see Deamer, David W. 2011 “First Life: Discovering the Connections between Stars, Cells, and How Life Began” University of California Press

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And yet our ancestors who fought the English for your independence AMBUSHED English soldiers.

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only addressing the lawyer situation you mention with "motives". arnold wasn't very high profile during this long ordeal.. not all over the media.... that is usually the hallmark of a publicity driven attorney. this situation and it's resolution certainly won't hurt his reputation, but he may have earned the respect...we will probably never know the extent of his influence. sounds like the government is going down a laundry list of charges...

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Let me be the 1st to congratulate you Galen! Great Job! Well done! You make Oregon proud and you are on your way to a gold medal !

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Some Oregonians can join the Daughters of the American Revolution. Both blacks and whites are members and they number about 170,000 nationwide. You can learn about how our ancestors fought the English. If you think this the original patriots were non-violent, you have go to do some research!

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I do include those. Mary Kay Henry (CEO of SEIU) makes $300,000 (according to http://workercenterwatch.com/one-percenter-seiu-president-arrested-farcical-protests/ ) and SEIU has a revenue of $300 million. So she makes 1/10th the salary for running an operation with 2-3X the revenue. Given this salary rate of 0.1% of revenue, Mark Helfrich would make $100,000! PP CEO Cecile Richards' salary was $590,928 and revenue of $1.3 billion. She makes 1/6th the salary for running an organization with 10x the revenue. Given this salary rate of 0.05% of revenue, Mark Helfrich would make $50,000! I think my suggestion of a little restraint and a salary of $2M would still be extravagant by any measure. Even CEOs of for-profit companies average a total pay of $600,000 for running companies with revenues more than $100,000,000, so Helfrich is doing quite well (5x better) using for-profit companies as a yardstick.

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Any time there is enough mass in a small enough space, a black hole forms. They are likely forming all the time.

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If I were either the mayor of Eugene or the president of Downtown Eugene Inc, I'd be eating lunch and otherwise hanging in the square every day and/or evening, inviting my friends, coordinating events, doing what I'm supposed to do to make it better supervised, more inviting, "safer." We'll always have good offers to sell the heart of Eugene. For now, DEI etc. needs to focus on making what we've got there better. Thanks you for reading this.

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I also find the "civil" comment-reply layout makes it much more difficult to follow a conversation than the disqus layout.

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"....reading/watching everything is how one becomes informed". And that's why I asked jcal "Could you please supply links to where you found this information so we all can be as well informed as you?" . Since he's not responded, perhaps you could provide links so those of us less informed than yourself can expand our horizons.

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I'm personally having an incredibly hard time even *seeing* comments under the new system, let alone being able to post. (This is my first successful access...) The system keeps kicking me over to the "e-subscription" version of the RG, which apparently has no means of accessing the comment sections. What am I missing here? :-/

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Silverhorn, comments are only included on the website, I believe, not the e-Edition.

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I appreciated that Mayor Hales gave me the option of receiving a refund (on my very modest contribution) or to donate it to a charity. I chose the latter.

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After forcing the Paiute tribes off the lands, another example of federal government abuses, FDR proclaimed the lake area as a wildlife refuge of approx..80,000 acres. After the Natives were forced into reservations and the refuge was made some of the surrounding lands were purchased by homesteaders/Ranchers. Little by little the refuge was expanded to what it is now approx..185,000 acres. During those decades ranchers were basically forced to sell the land relocate and purchase grazing rights. The whole point of my argument is that once some purchases any lands it should be there's to decide what to do with it. Selling at fair market value would be appropriate. Forced to sell at 10% value should not be acceptable. Our Constitution is continually altered to suit the government's desires, not we the people's. These latest land issues are in response to the fed govt. expanding the size of Nat. Forests, Wildlife Refuges and Nat. Parks. Time will tell the truth, follow the money trail.

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Laura, I feel it necessary to inform you that your point of view is rather old and needs a modern re-examination. No ID proponent has a problem with microevolution, because it is statistically possible, (2 base pair mutation in single celled and single mutational event, in a mammal, for example). These are entirely expected, the math supports it. Was cannot be supported, are multiple mutations required for a Selectable Advantage, this is certainly a requirement for macro evolution. Much recent work has revealed many Latent genetic and regulator instructions, in all life, that change the organism when stressed. The changes follow a predictable pattern, when creatures are stressed in the same manner. The Evolution Revolution, by Lee Spetner, lists many specific examples of this. What appears to be going on, are environmental adaptations brought about, by built in information, not the gradual accumulation of micro evolution. Reality suggests, creatures preloaded with information.

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In the sports world, however, the University of Oregon, like the other upper level sports schools, are essentially farm teams for the NFL. The coaches and assistant coaches move back and forth and up and down in the football industry which has a lot more money then most corporations. Their tenure is not guaranteed and their excessive salaries serve the same purpose as the stock options and severance pay of CEO's of the large corporations' 'golden parachutes' when they lose too many football games.

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The complaints were for being offered 10% value to sell their land. Others paid grazing rights fees to use open public/federal lands. The Constitution states the Federal Government can only own 10 miles of land in the District of Columbia unless needed for forts, ports and federal post offices. Other than that the land belongs to the States. The States may request help to manage lands but that does not give them jurisdiction of the lands. The government has been bullying people off the lands since it began altering the Constitution.

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Seriously? I'm sorry, but "ignorance is bliss" is a statement that couldn't be more true about your post. Obama has stood up to whom exactly? The last time I checked he has stood up for the common criminal more often than any one single group. He has stuck his nose in business where it doesn't belong and has only succeeded in perpetuating more problems rather than helping to solve them. So yeah, seriously...the world must look great through your rose colored lenses. The life of a sheeple....what a blissful one it must be...

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It's not surprising that the editorial writer misunderstands the significance of this; the press in general has not explained it properly. There seems to be an assumption that gravity waves are something transitory, like the waves on a body of water. Not so - what this proves is that gravity propagates in waves, just as light and electromagnetic radiation do. Our understanding of light waves and electromagnetic waves have lead to incredible engineering breakthroughs and inventions in the last century - I won't bother to list them here (though we could start with radio...). The mind reels at the things we may achieve now that we have a better understanding of the fundamental nature of gravity!

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What you are really saying is that if we can't observe it, we might as well not try to do science on it.

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In my opinion, the FBI and OSP put more stress on the citizenry of Haney, with their huge military build up, than the protestors did. You Feds must think we are naive to believe the line you are spewing! You murdered Lavoy, it's plain as the nose on your face!

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Coaches do get fired frequently (too frequently). I have little sympathy for the job security argument though. Normal folks also get fired and don't continue to be paid for the length of their contract. Wasn't Charlie Weiss being paid by Notre Dame two jobs later? Those kind of guarantees should decrease their salary, not increase! Competitive pay is a reasonable argument. Capping pay will undoubtedly cause some of the best coaches to seek jobs in the NFL. But how many could really make that move? We are talking about 1-2 coaches a year at most. So to stop that we instead have a system where 90% of the schools transfer money directly from student tuition to athletic departments when they transfer money for subsidies. For athletic departments to take hundreds of dollars per year from 20,000 students taking loans to attend school should require extraordinary need and extraordinary benefits.

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He was a Justice who recklessly abandoned stare decisis to further his aims. He took us five steps towards fascism, made our nation a plutocracy and almost made it a theocracy. He actually referred to his work as that of a cultural warrior. His judicial philosophy was quite simply corporations over the government and police over people with the wealthy over all. Condolences to his family and friends, but our nation is better with him no longer on the bench.

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Why would multiple mutations be required for a selectable advantage? Why would it be improbable for multiple mutations to be present? You and I have 3 million or so different mutations causing differences between us. Many do nothing, some cause a little difference in our function... are you saying that for some reason creatures can hold millions of genetic differences, but it would be impossible for multiple differences to act in the same pathway? Or I should ask, why do you think it is possible for us to have millions of mutations but that having two acting together to create a larger difference is impossible?

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As somewhat expected, "Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Saturday that the Senate should wait until a new president is elected to confirm a replacement for Justice Antonin Scalia". So 11 months is a threshold at which point a President needs to defer to the next one? Or is that magic threshold maybe a year, maybe even longer? It seems like this could easily be a slippery slope where we'll end up with Presidents only being allowed to appoint a new Justice right after being sworn in!

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Our definition of a "publicity driven attorney" must be different - Arnold and his associates sought out the representation of those at the Refuge , he and his associates have held multiple "news conferences" while other defense counsel have not, he appears to make himself available for any press opportunities and he drove Fiore down to the Refuge on an "unexpected" trip where he was walking around at the roadblock in a suit amongst the media (he didn't have a suit on in the pics of him at the Portland airport picking up Fiore) while his client was already in custody back in Portland. A review of his social media seems to confirm that he and his firm strive to seek publicity while trying to market themselves. This all started with the Hammonds and their plight - I find the attempt by others to use the Hammonds to advance their own agendas and visibility very distasteful.

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Well, this is certainly going to be interesting. To begin with, it will probably be at least two years before there is a new appointment given the upcoming elections and the political makeup of the Senate. During that time I suspect that we will see a number of appeals that are already in the pipeline affirmed by an evenly divided court (that is what happens with a tie). It is also likely that there will be a lot more backroom maneuvering on the court in deciding what cases to take for review given the 4-4 split.

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The University of Oregon doesn't "transfer money directly from student tuition to athletic departments when they transfer money for subsidies." If your 90% figure is accurate, those other schools must think that they are gaining something from the practice, however. I don't really care about Alabama or Michigan or those other schools that might be doing that. Since the U of O isn't attracting enough scholars to keep their 1969 reputation in research and keep losing the scholars who are generating the academic grants to other universities, I think that is what the academics and administrators who aren't going to get any of that sports money should be worrying about. The Legislature keeps reducing the funding, the U of O now has the authority it asked for to go get its own money, now is the time to fix what needs fixing on the academic side if they are capable of doing so. If not, we need to identify why not and fix that.

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I am sorry you feel this way about a good man. You will find there are quite a few people in the US that will disagree with you. I, for one, feel that his death causes major problems for the country. I feel that the liberal justices appointed by Obama and others have been forcing this country down the wrong path for a long time. This is why I hope that Obama does not get a new appointment through the Senate this year.

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I know it's my opinion, but the country won't get fixed by me or others simply shutting up, going along to get along, and abandoning our beliefs and values. The country will not get fixed by keeping my mouth shut, swallowing my disagreement, and playing nicey-nice with people who advocate for genocidal wars, corporate scams, and mega-governments which continue to accrue and centralize power and control. I disagree with centralized governmen and corporate power, and I am not afraid to say what I believe. It is not hateful or uncivilized for me to do so. Enough with the guilt tripping. It doesn't work on me. I think that all these divisive political sideshows, petty fighting and social discohesion are promoted as convenient smokescreens. A divided house cannot stop the robbers. While the vast majority of Americans fight and squabble and hate, banksters and megacorporate barons are robbing us blind from behind the curtain of all the distractions, sufferings, bread and circuses.

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"Fiore, an occupation sympathizer..." This article makes me feel sick. An insult to Oregonians who have tolerated 41 days and more from this unwanted intrusion. An insult to the LE that put their lives and reputations at risk to resolve this. The mutual admiration between her and Bundy's counsel is to be expected.

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I generally think 11 months is too long to wait for an appointment. However, I also think another Obama appointment would be an absolute disaster for this country.

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Stealing a post from another news source: "What's that smell? Do I detect burning sulfur?" -- Paul

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Obviously the FBI didn't find the damage they were looking for and are now digging for something to add charges. Without knowing the exact condition the artifacts were in prior to the protesters arrival it would be fraudulent to even make the accusations and is such a waste of more money already wasted by FBI and Gov. Brown. The protesters actually took photos of how the refuge was and its contents along with video and has been reported on multiple news outlets minus the main stream media of course. I see several comments from black libs talking about the protesters whiteness and white privilege. Defending Liberty is not about race and if you have allowed yourself to buy into those lies instead of fact checking and researching the issue then you have your own ignorance to blame for the loss of your freedoms. after the hypocrisy of so many BLM protesters on this issue they have lost millions of white supporters for their cause.

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you make good points. i'm thinking al sharpton..Gloria allred , etc. kind of publicity suckers. but it sounds like allegedly - I 'm taking your word, so allegedly he was putting himself out front for exposure, but he made no big splash. and ultimately he was part of the team of people who finally defused the situation. so, still kudos to mr Arnold.

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Looks like somebody's a beavers fan.

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