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I equally love men. leafy i love you. hugs and kisses.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Maybe it will rain all day and get his shofar too wet to play. We can only hope for rain or snow. What does Matt the KGW weatherman forecast? Does anyone have bagpipes, or a marching band to drowned out the shofar?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
typically knee jerk reactions. soon it will be rectified by next gen design. Hoeverboard is useful for short distance travel and fun to ride. accept it. the future is here.	0.166667	0	0	0	0.166667	0	0
I am glad the Affordable Care Act provided health insurance to people who did not previously have any, but I loathe the fact that a majority of people who had insurance now have inferior insurance with higher premiums.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
People are shooting their own cousins in the back, million dollar mansions are burning. It may be too late...	0.166667	0	0	0	0.166667	0	0
Interesting, I guess it was an accident that the Bern was left out of this article.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I wonder if he was on a No-Fly List, if not why not, if so, who removed him from the list, and when? I suspect he got to NV, was refused a boarding pass because he was on the NFL, was directed to someone who made a call, the signal to let him board was passed down the line, so he could further implicate himself in conspiracy to aid and abet crim in progress in Burns... but I need confirmation.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The Bundys are more dangerous to America than their cousins the Islamic extremists. In fact they are doing the work of the Islamic extremists by trying to destroy the US government.	0.4	0	0	0.1	0.2	0.4	0
As it should be. Unless we the people suffer then no changes will be demanded by us. That is how it works.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
And this isn't my grandfather's America, willing to be led by the nose through the horrors of the Middle East by Israel's right wing t0 Armageddon. Well, I'm not. If there is to be a one state solution then Israel's apartheid behavior needs to be admitted, and the US needs to stop supporting it until it does what the racist South African government did to end their own international sanctions...one person, one vote. If there is to be a one state solution America needs to admit that Zionism, the idea that Israel is a Jewish supremacist nation, is racism and not deserving of support. If I were boss, I would just let all participants know America is tired of being the grown-up, and without a solution we are going away with our bombs and our money and they can figure it out on their own. The war and the apartheid will never, NEVER, end until we do that. Israel has hundreds of atomic weapons of mass destruction aimed straight at Iran. I think they will be fine. Hugh Massengill, Eugene	0.166667	0	0	0	0	0.166667	0
Nope. I choose to look positively at Trump's candidacy and understand the needs and fears of those who are voting for him. It is easy to mock him, but there are going to be millions of Americans who will go out of their way to vote his way, not because they are evil, bigoted, sexist, racists, but because they are afraid and angry. Trump has pretty much garnered the vote of those displaced in the employment jungle by what they see as unregulated immigration and uncaring businesses moving to China. So write a column acknowledging their needs and despair, write a column saying what the US needs to do alleviate their fear and anger. To mock Trump is to mock the millions who listens to him because he is the only one in either party who champions them. (Well, I will be voting for Bernie, as I understand what he is saying, but Democrats don't do a very good job relating to non-college educated blue collar workers who have lost out in this new, brutal America). Hugh Massengill, Eugene	0.2	0	0	0	0.2	0	0
Mandatory background checks on all shovel purchases.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
They better hustle up, it's going to be spring bird watching season soon! It shouldn't take "weeks" to do what they have to do.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I too am glad this is over. The last remaining perp appears a sick troubled soul yet couldn't leave without childish grandstanding. It will be interesting to see how society tolerates behavior that exceeded the legal bounds of expression of first amendment rights, mirroring behavior similar to the terrorism we are sending troops into the middle east to fight against. My heart goes out to Burns. May they find renewed tolerance for friends and neighbors to live and work together to find peaceful solutions and compromises for differing agendas. Bitterness towards each other lets the perps continue to rent space in their heads. Very likely not one of the people of Burns would not drop everything to go and help a neighbor in need. Embrace and cherish this thought. The occupiers and their sympathizers need to learn this is a democracy and freedom loving Americans WILL NOT tolerate or reward terrorism or the selfish and childish, violent behavior we've witnessed the past month.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Slick UI so far - looking forward to using it	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Looks to me that nobody at Malheur had violent intent (despite media allegations). Certainly not compared to the law enforcement folks, who are armed to the teeth. Those worried about cost might consider how much money the feds are now wasting with all the resources committed to finding the smallest details that might support criminal charges. I suspect that objective damage is minimal and full restoration would cost substantially less than the current and ongoing investigation. When they lock up all those people, we the taxpayers will be paying millions of dollars in taxes to keep them in jail for the decades that the feds will likely push for.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Not nearly enough time. the wife was drunk and high so I'm wondering what kind of life the kids had anyway. Maybe they would be better off without these stellar citizens.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Discussion of gravity waves has been ongoing for many decades. Gravity waves are similar in concept to electromagnetic waves, i.e. radio, light, X-rays, etc. Gravity, however, is much weaker than electromagnetic forces. Just as electric current moving back and forth in an antenna creates radio waves, objects moving around each other in orbits emit gravitational waves. Because gravity is so much weaker than electromagnetic forces, it takes truly massive objects to make gravitational waves we can detect. Everybody expected gravitational waves to exist, the challenge was to make a receiver sensitive enough to detect them. Basically no practical importance as far as human existence is concerned. However, the detection of the gravitational waves is a brilliant feat of experimental physics.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
In order to understand the limits of science, one must be a scientist. To lay folks, science may appear to be firmly based and capable of explaining virtually everything in our universe. A scientist, or at least some scientists, see that our understanding of many things is shallow and based on massive extrapolation from what we do know. It pays for all to keep open minds. Our scientific understandings of origins is muddy. The understanding only appears clear when viewed from a distance without detail. There are many mysterious that science still has no testable understanding of.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Good. The Bundys and their ilk are dangerous terrorists who steal from the American people. Their knowledge of the Constitution is negligible and distorted. I prefer the government protect us from people like him, than the other way around.	0.3	0	0	0	0.2	0	0
I would support this tax if the transit districts stopped charging fares Otherwise this is just more money for the technocrats to play with and we already know how that works out	0.166667	0	0	0	0.166667	0	0
LE was able to end this without firing a shot. That you would characterize their motivations vis-a-vis the press as being motivated by a desire to shoot a protester without cause is a notion divorced from reality.	0.2	0	0	0.4	0	0	0
The editorial appears to suggest that the "occupation" was a big deal. But in reality, there were just a dozen or a few dozen guys hanging out at a couple of small deserted buildings in the middle of nowhere. The occupation only became a big deal because the media chose to make it a big deal filling page after page with stories about the "armed" occupiers. Despite all the media hype about "armed" occupation, the citizens involved did not actually draw a gun on anyone. I suspect that residents of Burns didn't even notice the occupation except for the constant pounding of the media drum. A big deal was made of a small issue. It was we as a society that reacted to the small issue with extreme deadly force. I am always puzzled how we as a society can teach by example that armed and violent confrontation is the answer to problems and at the same time expect individuals to chose peaceful approaches to resolving their own perceived problems.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Cliven wants an attorney? At tax payers' expense? All hat and no cattle? Not likely.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The loss of officer Goodding is sad and unfortunate. Reporting on the matter does not allow us, however, to speculate as to whether a more non-confrontational approach to handling the matter might have preserved the officer's (and the suspect's) lives. Also, I have to differ with the editorial on the danger issue. In the last few weeks, several workers have been killed in the line of work here in the local area. Many workers face danger. How many truck drivers have been killed while working here in Oregon? The danger faced by LE personnel should not be overstated relative to that faced by other persons in their everyday work. To do so re-enforces the current LE tactics of extreme confrontation which I believe is responsible for much loss of life both to LE personnel and to citizens.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Correct, there are two opposing agendas, one related to unobstructed extraction of resources with little or no attention to the long term health of the earth and all that live on her, the other related to sustained longer term utilization of resources. The term "liberal earther" infers negativity toward concern for the health of the earth and resources, people included. When you push the earth too far, don't be surprised when the pushback comes....talk about deep trouble, the earth doesn't discriminate and every human and species on the planet will share the consequences. Aggressive feeding needs to be seriously tempered.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
There are dozens of right-wing internet sites quoting "eywitness" accounts and relating tales of over a hundreds shots fired into the pickup, etc. If you believe them there's little sense in discussion. Watch the aerial video again, see which account best represents that video and make a rational choice. Again, hopefully the body-cam and/or dash cam videos will further clarify the details of the shooting.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Hillary: That would have been somewhat foolish as an arrest was eminent, why would law enforcement want more individuals present than was absolutely necessary. Freedom of speech has been very much front and center from the start of this mistake, in fact some might, and have argued that the media presence has contributed to the length of it.	0.2	0	0	0	0.2	0	0
This is ridiculous and obvious that some on this site have no idea or concept about what the constitution says? I offer each of them a copy since it is obvious they have not read it! Dangerous criminals what a laugh, they harmed no one unlike the FBI who actually murdered an American Citizen! The other concern I have is the fact people will allow their rights so willingly to be taken away, until they have none. Meanwhile BLAck Lifes Matter, burn towns, block federal highways, etc but no consequences! Some people have really screwed up values apparently! I stand for Freedom!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
While not everyone agrees on every issue, what a dull and disagreeable world that would be, we should all strive to be both respectful and polite in any discussions we engage in on these sites. While not sharing opinions, because of the thought of being ridiculed or worse, shouldn't be feared, many still do fear such disrespectful and for some, hurtful exchange, the free exchange of both ideas, and opinions, is the perfect venue for application of the "Golden Rule".	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
So because LE tactics are "extreme" in your words, they are responsible for their own death? That is the most ignorant comment I have ever heard. LE personnel don't know what they get into day in and day out. They don't know whether or not the girl who is trying to report her husband beat her up is waiting behind the door to shoot the officer in an ambush. What about the transient that he or she gives money too instead of taking them to jail? Why don't you go spend a shift in a patrol car with an officer and see what he actually does on a daily basis? Instead you sit behind your computer and criticize their "tactics."	0.8	0	0	0	0.8	0	0
Yours is a difficult comment to respond to. You make assumptions and then extend your comment on the basis of the assumptions that you make. Essentially, this comprises talking to yourself. Blame is a relatively juvenile concept. Discussion of efficacy of method as an attempt to optimize future results provides benefit. If method employed is observed to lead to unfortunate results, it is profitable to examine that method and determine whether changes could reduce or eliminate unfortunate results observed. The LE tactic of immediate confront and control is very widespread and precludes calm and careful evaluation of unknown situations which you point out they routinely encounter. Rather than breaking a door down and surprising a "perp" who then reacts without thinking, a more restrained engagement technique could be employed. Careful consideration of methods is important and it is not arrogant to question efficacy of the status quo. Thank you for your comment.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
That's simply not the case. Employer-provided health insurance saw a reduced rate of increase under the ACA while the policies were upgraded. For those of us buying individual policies, the ACA has been fantastic beyond belief. Prior to the ACA, the only affordable policies were catastrophic policies that would be cancelled if we ever used them, so they were one-time coverage deals. Under the ACA, our policies cover more, cost less and can't be cancelled for using them. My family's health insurance costs dropped by four thousand dollars per year for our much, much better coverage.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
This is tragic, and I think it's another direct result of us not addressing our mental health crisis in America.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Eugenians might like to know that some of the optics used in the LIGO interferometers - in particular, those optics having the most-demanding performance requirements - were manufactured right here in Eugene by a small high-end optical-coating company called MLD Technologies.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Good. I like it.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The OPD killed LaVoy, not that fact matter much to your ilk.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
My point was not breaking down the door to gain entry. My point was the victim opens the door and without warning the suspect is standing there waiting for the officer in an ambush situation. It happens a lot more than people are will to admit. I'm not in anyway saying that all officers are perfect. But I will defend them with respect. There are people who don't like police for no other reason than they wear a badge!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Interesting comment. To my knowledge, political leaders and citizens of most all political preferences were relieved that this armed occupation is over. When we look at today's America it's hard for me to understand your characterizing it as "the one party rule state." Could you elaborate on your view. thanks, Gary	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The horse they couldn't ride the line they couldn't cross and the color is the reason why.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Yes, it is unfortunate that the actions of the occupiers will prevent it from being open right away.	0.166667	0	0	0	0	0	0
We've seen extremist charismatic leaders destroy the lives of vulnerable "followers" before. David Karish comes to mind. For us older folks, so does Jim Jones. Fry was, quite clearly, a mentally ill young man "seeking" something to provide some order in his life. Such vulnerability made him a very easy target for someone like Ammon Bundy. Fortunately, he surrendered peacefully.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
It is not about the police officers themselves. They just do their jobs. It is about tactics institutionally adopted and taught to the individual officers. Confront and control using whatever force necessary form a core tactic of today's policing. I believe unnecessary deaths of officers and civilians occur as a result of official adoption, sanction, and teaching such one-dimensional engagement tactics.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Let's assume the police identify the person who pulled up all there trees and he is not a crazy homeless person as one of the posters at the R-G alleged when this first happened. (If he is, that's a free ride; nothing will happen to him. He isn't "a danger to himself or others" just to trees.) If it was done by juveniles, another free ride; you can burn down Civic Stadium as a juvenile and nothing happens to you. If it is an adult, first PROVEN offense, community service and probation; if he has any money, maybe restitution. In the meantime, EPD has Homicides, Rapes, Assaults, Hit and Runs, etc. etc. to investigate with limited resources. Perspective. That's the word, "perspective". Get some today. It's free.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I've often wondered why an integrated, multi-ethnic state with constitutionally established equal rights like those of the Western democracies is seen as such a threat to many American Jews, who represent less than 3% of our population and do well here by any standard as a protected minority. Both white nationalists and Jewish nationalists express and share fearful concerns about the "demographic threat" of an unwanted population and "losing majority."	0.166667	0	0	0	0	0.166667	0
If you are referring to Israel, I think you need to readjust your definition of that State to include the fact that, whatever it's constitution may say, Israel in history and spirit has a large element of theocratic rule mixed in to its ethos. The phrase, "Next Year in Jerusalem" entered the Haggadah (the text recited at the Seder on the first two nights of the Jewish Passover) in the Middle Ages and refers to Jews rebuilding the Temple in Jerusalem. To ignore that history is to ignore a major factor in Israeli culture.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Oh the guilt.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Nope. They were FEDERAL LANDS ever since the Louisiana Purchase. The lands in question never passed to private ownership. The nature refuge these idiots "occupied" had been set aside by TEDDY ROOSEVELT in the early 1900s.	0.724138	0.017241	0.068966	0.017241	0.741379	0.034483	0
Finicum was never without his gun. He reached for the 9MM in his shoulder holster TWICE before he was shot. Pull a gun on law enforcement and you are committing suicide. Finicum lost his meal ticket. When you commit violent crimes in public they don't let you foster kids (that you use as slaves) to the tune of $100K/year.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Levoy Finicum was very polite to the FBI. They has civil discussions where no one on either side became violent or pointed guns at each other. The FBI never told him they would use deadly force, so everything leading up to the road block was a complete surprise. They were shot at the first stop which caused Levoy to flee for his safety and the ones in the truck with him. If they shot at him at the first stop, perhaps they shot at him at the second stop? Why no other video but a garbage low pixel ariel? With all the dash cams and GoPros, don't you think the FBI would want to document at justified shooting of hundreds of rounds at Levoy and the truck? Why leave the cameras out of it? They also picked a spot where there was no cell reception so no one could upload video to cloud or youtube. The whole thing was an assassination and anyone with the ability to think rationally can see this.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
That is true , he owes an apology to vipers	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Way cool that Cliven, Ammon, and Ryan get to have meals together now. Family time...so sweet.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Yes, indeed. There are a variety of high tech nuggets hidden around Eugene. We hardly hear about them. MLD specializes in applying very thin films of materials onto glass or other substrates to make high performance mirrors of various kinds. Too bad the RG doesn't highlight some of the local tech firms other than software.	0.166667	0	0	0	0.166667	0	0
Hillary: A governmental agency that manages millions of acres, for the recreational benefit of millions of Americans, contracts many of those acres out to grazing at below market value, maintains campgrounds, and recreation sites, many for no charge, and provides many opportunities for any citizen who wishes, to get out and away from it all, is considered a "Bully", a very interesting viewpoint, for sure. Also somewhat off point, but interesting none the less.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
They had a chance to tsake g down the gang leaders while he was unarmed and nit surrounded by armed gang ,members so they took it A wise move and safer for all involved	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Carrying a loaded firearm with your finger on the trigger on one of those things? I wonder what other great decisions were being made by that individual. I agree with Hoverboard Nation, they're here to stay. They just need to take care of some of the technical bugs. The stupid things people are going to do on one them will always be around. I wonder if anyone has ever shot someone with a gun while falling off a skateboard.	0.6	0.1	0	0.3	0.5	0	0
When we quit locking everyone up in the State Hospital who was 'different' in any way and went to the "danger to self or others" standard as the only test for mandatory hospitalization and treatment, we invented these results. The appellate courts routinely overturn local judges who are concerned about mentally ill people unless that standard is met. Until they actually harm someone or themselves, if they aren't willing to participate in treatment, nothing can be forced upon them. I don't see a solution. Hand wringing just doesn't do it.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
"This aggression will not stand, man." Go Dude! Go Ducks!	0.125	0	0	0	0.104167	0.020833	0
I'm having trouble understanding how this was an "ordeal" for anyone except maybe the families of law enforcement and the occupiers, worried about their respective loved ones being hurt in a shootout. For most of us, it just meant reading daily updates online, many of which amounted to no more than gossip. Whatever "damage" was done to the refuge will be minor. Shortly before the occupation, the OPB podcast ran some stories about a volunteer snowmobile group who maintains snowmobile trails and how they overstepped their agreement with the BLM by widening paths and destroying wildlife areas. The BLM isn't even charging them what it will cost to fix it! A commenter speculated what the standoff would've been like had the occupiers been African-American. Well we know what it would've been like had they not been right-wing They would've goten a slap on the wrist!	0.2	0	0	0.2	0	0	0
One of the deputies killed in Maryland used the non confrontational method. He asked the suspect if he could down with him, inquired about his day and was shot in the head. There's times for "Softly, softly" and there's times to dominate and take control. The officer has to use his judgment on which.	0.3	0	0	0.2	0.2	0.1	0
@nickzukin I love your writing here.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
I guess we have some senators that love to drink the "trickle" up kool-aid	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
On top of that, Jules Bailey ... 1. Is in full support of the 10-cents-a-gallon Portland gas tax, 2. Has promised to put a "revenue measure" (i.e., new/increased taxes) on the ballot for affordable housing, 3. Promises to lobby the legislature for a carbon tax, 4. Pushes a congestion tax. So far, he's been silent on the $1.2 billion in new taxes the public employee unions are pushing. Given his support of Measures 66 & 67, it would be reasonable to conclude he's behind the latest effort to funnel money to his past and current campaign contributors. The billion dollar question: How much more in taxes does candidate Bailey think Portlanders should pay? Is any amount too much?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Hillary “Many of the comments over the past month amount to libel…”. If you believe this to be the case, as a staunch defender of this group, you should catalogue these libelous comments and turn them over to the “MWR protesters” and their attorneys.	0	0	0.142857	0	0	0	0
They don't represent all white people, but it's eminently fair to say that whiteness plays a central role to their own cultural identity and the groups that support them.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
"but I need confirmation" I'm sure there is a Freeper newsletter to which you could subscribe.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bring awareness to Hoaxer activities & prosecute those who consciously, publicly defame, harass and emotionally abuse the victims of high profile tragedies. Send us report about your harassment in our webpage http://honr.com	0.2	0	0	0.2	0.1	0	0
If you live by the gun you should not be surprised when you die by the gun. LaVoy told the world he was ready to die and you are surprised when the FBI took his threat seriously? You don't need cell reception to capture video. Where is it now? Your terrorist buddies took over Malheur armed and threatened to use violence if confronted. Now you and the rest of the tinfoil hat crowd are crying that someone actually took them for their word. LaVoy died of suicide by cop. His choice.	0.4	0	0	0.2	0.4	0	0
Anyone know why Bundy senior wasn't arrested in Nevada? I know he and his sons held off the feds at his ranch there, but was he freely coming and going from there? At any rate, another not-so-smart move by the group.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
“an 18-year-old riding a hover-board lost his balance and fatally shot his cousin, 13-year-old Lavardo Fisher, in the back “. This heartbreaking scenario is becoming all too commonplace in our country. The US now leads all developed countries in shooting deaths of innocent bystanders from falling hover-boarders. Emergency legislation is required to stop this plague now! Stop the insanity! It's for the children!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
How about if they walk? That's much more Earth-friendly, you UO kids!	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Oh lord, do you purposefully disregard the aerial footage that was released as being "edited" or altered in such a way to alter the public perception on "what actually happened?" Are you seriously THAT paranoid?	0.3	0	0	0	0.4	0	0
This is pretty much exactly how I feel. Damn.	0.7	0.1	0.7	0	0.2	0	0
I think the feds said they arrested him in Portland because their case against him was ready and he wouldn't be armed as he got off the airplane. Smart move by the FBI group. Many thanks.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The elephant that remains in the room is not going away any time soon. The policy of "wait until hell freezes over before taking any action to protect the FBI and the Justice Department from being accused of using force - lest anyone should ever get hurt - against those who have and/or are in the process of committing criminal acts" is highly controversial. A legitimate, defensible and compelling case can be made that because the FBI and the Justice Department inexplicably allowed Cliven Bundy to face no consequences for his armed refusal to pay federal grazing fees, for years, his sons felt enabled and emboldened to illegally commandeer the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge while armed.* Richard Ellmyer North Portland * Oregon Congressman: Malheur Could Have Been Prevented With Earlier Bundy Arrest http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/oregon-democratic-congressman-vigorously-prosecute-cliven-bundy-malheur-occupiers/	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gee, imagine that.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The Resturant industry has always fought for tip credit. It allows them to pay wages BELOW the minimum wage by counting an employees tips to satisfy the employer's obligation to pay the minimum wage. The employers often choose to employ workers less than the minimum hours to qualify for benefits and as parttime workers, they need the tips to get by. The reality is that workers who work lunch shifts or breakfast shifts do not get the high tip income. The reality is that nearly ALL these workers are not unionized and are subject to the employer's arbitrary assignment of hours...and number of hours...Most are also expected to share their tips with busboys, etc. . The reality is that employer violations of wage and hour laws in the resturant industry is among the highest of any industry in Oregon. That SOME fancier resturants have SOME waiters or waitresses in Portland may earn a higher wage hides the reality that MOST do not, especially outside of Portland's trendier spots.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
A legitimate, defensible and compelling case can be made that the FBI and the Justice Department should have turned off the power, blacked out communication, denied access to and from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and told the criminal perpetrators that they were all subject to arrest on DAY ONE instead of allowing the armed occupation to drag on for 41 days. The FBI and the Justice Department claimed authority yet remained in the shadows for weeks during the daily escalating crisis, placing governor Kate Brown and Harney County Sheriff, Dave Ward, as the public faces of responsibility in untenable positions.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
With the exception of The Ellmyer Report, the names of the people most responsible for the “protect the kinder and gentler reputations of the FBI and the Justice Department unless and until the public demanded action policy,” i.e. Special Agent in Charge of the Oregon FBI, Gregory T. Bretzing, and United States Attorney for the District of Oregon, Billy Williams, appeared nowhere in the Press for weeks. Only after Ammon Bundy was arrested did Bretzing and Williams show up in public to take credit. Very few Americans believe that if the Bundys were not White, Mormon and armed they would have been arrested and possibly shot during or very shortly after committing their criminal and domestic terrorist acts.	0.3	0	0	0.2	0	0.2	0
It would prove an insurmountable danger if this Hoverboard technology fell into the wicked clutches of the terrorists.	0.3	0.2	0	0.1	0.3	0	0
As expected. Create a "jungle" and expect that there will be turf fights over who can run it, who can camp in it. Mix in predators and vulnerable, dysfunctional and/or disabled ...and its a nightmare.	0.142857	0	0	0	0	0.142857	0
Many UO kids walk and bicycle, but some cannot have enough toys. If they want, a well-heeled parent buys. It only takes one to burn down a building or kill someone. Then what, oops, sorry, my mistake, slap my wrist? What was the idiot doing carrying a gun on a hoverboard anyway?	0.736842	0.026316	0.131579	0.236842	0.657895	0.039474	0.013158
Highly unlikely.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The public doesn't know how many times Finicum was shot, but his family does given that the autopsy they arranged was completed some time ago. I don't think they have released any information that contradicts what has been reported and can be seen on the video. I'd suggest waiting for more evidence to be released before passing judgment.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The Malheur protest seems to have cause a great deal of emotional distress amongst the anti-gun crowd and the drive by media. The Christian, conservative, Caucasian Malheur cowboys got more negative press than the radicalized Muslim shooters in San Diego did. Prejudice is rampant in America.	0.3	0	0	0	0.1	0.2	0
Motley, you just equated ALL of the remittances to Mexican illegal immigrants. That's obviously a huge distortion. You are ignoring more than 35 million people of Mexican descent who are are not illegal immigrants. Many millions of them are Americans, as much so as you or I (I'm not native American. Are you?) and all of them are here legally. And jobs? Jobs aren't made by monolithic public sectors, but millions of businesses, and households. Yes, both countries, ours and theirs, would be better off with better economic conditions in Mexico. Let's hope we find away, as individuals, and our public sector too, to make that happen. One additional note, related to oligarchy. I never thought I'd see this in our lifetime. It's time for us to look at the startling decline in distribution of wealth in the US, which is rapidly approaching what we see in Mexico. Right?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
It was not murder. LaVoy fled, endangered others, and charged the FBI. The FBI was forced to open fire then. It was suicide by cop. La Voy pledged to kill himself before allowing himself to be arrested. He did. The Bundys and their cohorts are criminals. They stole and damaged property. They are tax dodgers. They turned guns on Federal officers and threatened them. The government bent over back wards to settle this peacefully. they undercharged them for their crimes. If a gang had robbed a bank and someone dies in the commission of their crimes, the whole gang is charged with murder-even if the gang weren't the ones to shoot. That's the law. I suggest you read the Constitution yourself, and Supreme Court decisions and American History to learn the real meaning of the law and not your distorted uneducated version of it.	0.4	0	0.1	0.3	0.2	0.1	0.1
“the one party rule state.” ??? Think (D) Oregon, not America.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
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"There are many mysterious that science still has no testable understanding of"--yes, Outsider77, and these "mysteries" are justifiably studied within the realm of religion. Science is devoted to uncovering "mysteries"--the aspects of the natural world about which humans are ignorant. So the mystic and the scientist engage in entirely different kinds of activities. For example, the scientist spends little time in the laboratory engaged in spiritual contemplation of the mystical wonders of the universe, just as the mystic likely spends very little time quantifying phenomena with scientific instruments.	0.166667	0	0	0	0.166667	0	0
That sounds pretty good. What are your deductibles, co-pays, out of pockets, and how much is your subsidy?	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Interesting post.........The seizure and armed occupation of federal property is, in fact, a big deal. The clearly stated intention to physically resist any efforts to remove them from such occupation (remembering they were armed) is a big deal. The attempt to use the occupation to extort the federal government to change laws, policies and released individuals from prison is a big deal. Please remember the Bundy militia were the folks who brzenly broke the law, seized the Malheur Headquarters (you characterize it as "a few dozen guys hanging out at a couple of small deserted buildings in the middle of nowhere.) broke into files, entered a lab/storage area containing Pauite historical artifacts, used federal vehicles and equipment and disrupted the Refuge for about six weeks. Breaking several federal and state laws is hardly the way to address issues. Please don't minimize and trivialize the actions of the Bundy bunch. They will face criminal charges as they richly deserve.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
ID deniers have yet to present their scientific evidence of how something originated out of nothing.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Your idea that women promoting women candidates based on their gender is "discrimination" is spurious. The American political power structure is primarily white and male (80% & 80%), therefore, women encouraging women to vote for women candidates is not discrimination in the same way that the the political power structure is excessively skewed towards the interests of men. Men don't need to implore men to support male candidates because they already do by and large and male candidates in many cases are the only choice for voters. White men make up 31% of the population, yet they hold 65% of elected offices in the United States. This is the problem, not women encouraging other women to vote for women candidates.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Omg OMG! Hype-Hype-HYPER ventilate! Milk the pathetic scene for every last drop of militarized adreneline you can. Ooh-rah. Really? No explosive booby traps were found? What a surprise! Did the Fibbies do a search for insurgent elves and thermonuclear unicorns too?	0.387097	0	0	0.016129	0.354839	0	0.016129
Hard to watch last night. We've come to expect more this year, especially after a sweep in Arizona. They need to regroup, come out strong against Stanford and get a split.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
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It's nice to see the people standing behind their government on this issue. While I think that it's not okay for the government to limit what a business can and cannot sell, it is nice to see a combined effort going towards climate change. The way that coal should be phased out, however, should be by the consumer and not the government. It's our job to keep businesses accountable, not the governments'.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The trials will allow everyone an opportunity to consider all the issues involved. The defendants have the right to present a defense of their actions, and the government must prove that they have broken the law, beyond a reasonable doubt, to a jury of their peers. This is how we deal with problems in a democratic society; through legal processes.	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

I equally love men. leafy i love you. hugs and kisses.

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Maybe it will rain all day and get his shofar too wet to play. We can only hope for rain or snow. What does Matt the KGW weatherman forecast? Does anyone have bagpipes, or a marching band to drowned out the shofar?

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typically knee jerk reactions. soon it will be rectified by next gen design. Hoeverboard is useful for short distance travel and fun to ride. accept it. the future is here.

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I am glad the Affordable Care Act provided health insurance to people who did not previously have any, but I loathe the fact that a majority of people who had insurance now have inferior insurance with higher premiums.

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People are shooting their own cousins in the back, million dollar mansions are burning. It may be too late...

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Interesting, I guess it was an accident that the Bern was left out of this article.

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I wonder if he was on a No-Fly List, if not why not, if so, who removed him from the list, and when? I suspect he got to NV, was refused a boarding pass because he was on the NFL, was directed to someone who made a call, the signal to let him board was passed down the line, so he could further implicate himself in conspiracy to aid and abet crim in progress in Burns... but I need confirmation.

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The Bundys are more dangerous to America than their cousins the Islamic extremists. In fact they are doing the work of the Islamic extremists by trying to destroy the US government.

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As it should be. Unless we the people suffer then no changes will be demanded by us. That is how it works.

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And this isn't my grandfather's America, willing to be led by the nose through the horrors of the Middle East by Israel's right wing t0 Armageddon. Well, I'm not. If there is to be a one state solution then Israel's apartheid behavior needs to be admitted, and the US needs to stop supporting it until it does what the racist South African government did to end their own international sanctions...one person, one vote. If there is to be a one state solution America needs to admit that Zionism, the idea that Israel is a Jewish supremacist nation, is racism and not deserving of support. If I were boss, I would just let all participants know America is tired of being the grown-up, and without a solution we are going away with our bombs and our money and they can figure it out on their own. The war and the apartheid will never, NEVER, end until we do that. Israel has hundreds of atomic weapons of mass destruction aimed straight at Iran. I think they will be fine. Hugh Massengill, Eugene

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Nope. I choose to look positively at Trump's candidacy and understand the needs and fears of those who are voting for him. It is easy to mock him, but there are going to be millions of Americans who will go out of their way to vote his way, not because they are evil, bigoted, sexist, racists, but because they are afraid and angry. Trump has pretty much garnered the vote of those displaced in the employment jungle by what they see as unregulated immigration and uncaring businesses moving to China. So write a column acknowledging their needs and despair, write a column saying what the US needs to do alleviate their fear and anger. To mock Trump is to mock the millions who listens to him because he is the only one in either party who champions them. (Well, I will be voting for Bernie, as I understand what he is saying, but Democrats don't do a very good job relating to non-college educated blue collar workers who have lost out in this new, brutal America). Hugh Massengill, Eugene

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Mandatory background checks on all shovel purchases.

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They better hustle up, it's going to be spring bird watching season soon! It shouldn't take "weeks" to do what they have to do.

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I too am glad this is over. The last remaining perp appears a sick troubled soul yet couldn't leave without childish grandstanding. It will be interesting to see how society tolerates behavior that exceeded the legal bounds of expression of first amendment rights, mirroring behavior similar to the terrorism we are sending troops into the middle east to fight against. My heart goes out to Burns. May they find renewed tolerance for friends and neighbors to live and work together to find peaceful solutions and compromises for differing agendas. Bitterness towards each other lets the perps continue to rent space in their heads. Very likely not one of the people of Burns would not drop everything to go and help a neighbor in need. Embrace and cherish this thought. The occupiers and their sympathizers need to learn this is a democracy and freedom loving Americans WILL NOT tolerate or reward terrorism or the selfish and childish, violent behavior we've witnessed the past month.

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Looks to me that nobody at Malheur had violent intent (despite media allegations). Certainly not compared to the law enforcement folks, who are armed to the teeth. Those worried about cost might consider how much money the feds are now wasting with all the resources committed to finding the smallest details that might support criminal charges. I suspect that objective damage is minimal and full restoration would cost substantially less than the current and ongoing investigation. When they lock up all those people, we the taxpayers will be paying millions of dollars in taxes to keep them in jail for the decades that the feds will likely push for.

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Not nearly enough time. the wife was drunk and high so I'm wondering what kind of life the kids had anyway. Maybe they would be better off without these stellar citizens.

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Discussion of gravity waves has been ongoing for many decades. Gravity waves are similar in concept to electromagnetic waves, i.e. radio, light, X-rays, etc. Gravity, however, is much weaker than electromagnetic forces. Just as electric current moving back and forth in an antenna creates radio waves, objects moving around each other in orbits emit gravitational waves. Because gravity is so much weaker than electromagnetic forces, it takes truly massive objects to make gravitational waves we can detect. Everybody expected gravitational waves to exist, the challenge was to make a receiver sensitive enough to detect them. Basically no practical importance as far as human existence is concerned. However, the detection of the gravitational waves is a brilliant feat of experimental physics.

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In order to understand the limits of science, one must be a scientist. To lay folks, science may appear to be firmly based and capable of explaining virtually everything in our universe. A scientist, or at least some scientists, see that our understanding of many things is shallow and based on massive extrapolation from what we do know. It pays for all to keep open minds. Our scientific understandings of origins is muddy. The understanding only appears clear when viewed from a distance without detail. There are many mysterious that science still has no testable understanding of.

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Good. The Bundys and their ilk are dangerous terrorists who steal from the American people. Their knowledge of the Constitution is negligible and distorted. I prefer the government protect us from people like him, than the other way around.

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I would support this tax if the transit districts stopped charging fares Otherwise this is just more money for the technocrats to play with and we already know how that works out

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LE was able to end this without firing a shot. That you would characterize their motivations vis-a-vis the press as being motivated by a desire to shoot a protester without cause is a notion divorced from reality.

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The editorial appears to suggest that the "occupation" was a big deal. But in reality, there were just a dozen or a few dozen guys hanging out at a couple of small deserted buildings in the middle of nowhere. The occupation only became a big deal because the media chose to make it a big deal filling page after page with stories about the "armed" occupiers. Despite all the media hype about "armed" occupation, the citizens involved did not actually draw a gun on anyone. I suspect that residents of Burns didn't even notice the occupation except for the constant pounding of the media drum. A big deal was made of a small issue. It was we as a society that reacted to the small issue with extreme deadly force. I am always puzzled how we as a society can teach by example that armed and violent confrontation is the answer to problems and at the same time expect individuals to chose peaceful approaches to resolving their own perceived problems.

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Cliven wants an attorney? At tax payers' expense? All hat and no cattle? Not likely.

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The loss of officer Goodding is sad and unfortunate. Reporting on the matter does not allow us, however, to speculate as to whether a more non-confrontational approach to handling the matter might have preserved the officer's (and the suspect's) lives. Also, I have to differ with the editorial on the danger issue. In the last few weeks, several workers have been killed in the line of work here in the local area. Many workers face danger. How many truck drivers have been killed while working here in Oregon? The danger faced by LE personnel should not be overstated relative to that faced by other persons in their everyday work. To do so re-enforces the current LE tactics of extreme confrontation which I believe is responsible for much loss of life both to LE personnel and to citizens.

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Correct, there are two opposing agendas, one related to unobstructed extraction of resources with little or no attention to the long term health of the earth and all that live on her, the other related to sustained longer term utilization of resources. The term "liberal earther" infers negativity toward concern for the health of the earth and resources, people included. When you push the earth too far, don't be surprised when the pushback comes....talk about deep trouble, the earth doesn't discriminate and every human and species on the planet will share the consequences. Aggressive feeding needs to be seriously tempered.

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There are dozens of right-wing internet sites quoting "eywitness" accounts and relating tales of over a hundreds shots fired into the pickup, etc. If you believe them there's little sense in discussion. Watch the aerial video again, see which account best represents that video and make a rational choice. Again, hopefully the body-cam and/or dash cam videos will further clarify the details of the shooting.

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Hillary: That would have been somewhat foolish as an arrest was eminent, why would law enforcement want more individuals present than was absolutely necessary. Freedom of speech has been very much front and center from the start of this mistake, in fact some might, and have argued that the media presence has contributed to the length of it.

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This is ridiculous and obvious that some on this site have no idea or concept about what the constitution says? I offer each of them a copy since it is obvious they have not read it! Dangerous criminals what a laugh, they harmed no one unlike the FBI who actually murdered an American Citizen! The other concern I have is the fact people will allow their rights so willingly to be taken away, until they have none. Meanwhile BLAck Lifes Matter, burn towns, block federal highways, etc but no consequences! Some people have really screwed up values apparently! I stand for Freedom!

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While not everyone agrees on every issue, what a dull and disagreeable world that would be, we should all strive to be both respectful and polite in any discussions we engage in on these sites. While not sharing opinions, because of the thought of being ridiculed or worse, shouldn't be feared, many still do fear such disrespectful and for some, hurtful exchange, the free exchange of both ideas, and opinions, is the perfect venue for application of the "Golden Rule".

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So because LE tactics are "extreme" in your words, they are responsible for their own death? That is the most ignorant comment I have ever heard. LE personnel don't know what they get into day in and day out. They don't know whether or not the girl who is trying to report her husband beat her up is waiting behind the door to shoot the officer in an ambush. What about the transient that he or she gives money too instead of taking them to jail? Why don't you go spend a shift in a patrol car with an officer and see what he actually does on a daily basis? Instead you sit behind your computer and criticize their "tactics."

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Yours is a difficult comment to respond to. You make assumptions and then extend your comment on the basis of the assumptions that you make. Essentially, this comprises talking to yourself. Blame is a relatively juvenile concept. Discussion of efficacy of method as an attempt to optimize future results provides benefit. If method employed is observed to lead to unfortunate results, it is profitable to examine that method and determine whether changes could reduce or eliminate unfortunate results observed. The LE tactic of immediate confront and control is very widespread and precludes calm and careful evaluation of unknown situations which you point out they routinely encounter. Rather than breaking a door down and surprising a "perp" who then reacts without thinking, a more restrained engagement technique could be employed. Careful consideration of methods is important and it is not arrogant to question efficacy of the status quo. Thank you for your comment.

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That's simply not the case. Employer-provided health insurance saw a reduced rate of increase under the ACA while the policies were upgraded. For those of us buying individual policies, the ACA has been fantastic beyond belief. Prior to the ACA, the only affordable policies were catastrophic policies that would be cancelled if we ever used them, so they were one-time coverage deals. Under the ACA, our policies cover more, cost less and can't be cancelled for using them. My family's health insurance costs dropped by four thousand dollars per year for our much, much better coverage.

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This is tragic, and I think it's another direct result of us not addressing our mental health crisis in America.

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Eugenians might like to know that some of the optics used in the LIGO interferometers - in particular, those optics having the most-demanding performance requirements - were manufactured right here in Eugene by a small high-end optical-coating company called MLD Technologies.

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The OPD killed LaVoy, not that fact matter much to your ilk.

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My point was not breaking down the door to gain entry. My point was the victim opens the door and without warning the suspect is standing there waiting for the officer in an ambush situation. It happens a lot more than people are will to admit. I'm not in anyway saying that all officers are perfect. But I will defend them with respect. There are people who don't like police for no other reason than they wear a badge!

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Interesting comment. To my knowledge, political leaders and citizens of most all political preferences were relieved that this armed occupation is over. When we look at today's America it's hard for me to understand your characterizing it as "the one party rule state." Could you elaborate on your view. thanks, Gary

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Yes, it is unfortunate that the actions of the occupiers will prevent it from being open right away.

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We've seen extremist charismatic leaders destroy the lives of vulnerable "followers" before. David Karish comes to mind. For us older folks, so does Jim Jones. Fry was, quite clearly, a mentally ill young man "seeking" something to provide some order in his life. Such vulnerability made him a very easy target for someone like Ammon Bundy. Fortunately, he surrendered peacefully.

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It is not about the police officers themselves. They just do their jobs. It is about tactics institutionally adopted and taught to the individual officers. Confront and control using whatever force necessary form a core tactic of today's policing. I believe unnecessary deaths of officers and civilians occur as a result of official adoption, sanction, and teaching such one-dimensional engagement tactics.

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Let's assume the police identify the person who pulled up all there trees and he is not a crazy homeless person as one of the posters at the R-G alleged when this first happened. (If he is, that's a free ride; nothing will happen to him. He isn't "a danger to himself or others" just to trees.) If it was done by juveniles, another free ride; you can burn down Civic Stadium as a juvenile and nothing happens to you. If it is an adult, first PROVEN offense, community service and probation; if he has any money, maybe restitution. In the meantime, EPD has Homicides, Rapes, Assaults, Hit and Runs, etc. etc. to investigate with limited resources. Perspective. That's the word, "perspective". Get some today. It's free.

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I've often wondered why an integrated, multi-ethnic state with constitutionally established equal rights like those of the Western democracies is seen as such a threat to many American Jews, who represent less than 3% of our population and do well here by any standard as a protected minority. Both white nationalists and Jewish nationalists express and share fearful concerns about the "demographic threat" of an unwanted population and "losing majority."

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If you are referring to Israel, I think you need to readjust your definition of that State to include the fact that, whatever it's constitution may say, Israel in history and spirit has a large element of theocratic rule mixed in to its ethos. The phrase, "Next Year in Jerusalem" entered the Haggadah (the text recited at the Seder on the first two nights of the Jewish Passover) in the Middle Ages and refers to Jews rebuilding the Temple in Jerusalem. To ignore that history is to ignore a major factor in Israeli culture.

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Nope. They were FEDERAL LANDS ever since the Louisiana Purchase. The lands in question never passed to private ownership. The nature refuge these idiots "occupied" had been set aside by TEDDY ROOSEVELT in the early 1900s.

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Finicum was never without his gun. He reached for the 9MM in his shoulder holster TWICE before he was shot. Pull a gun on law enforcement and you are committing suicide. Finicum lost his meal ticket. When you commit violent crimes in public they don't let you foster kids (that you use as slaves) to the tune of $100K/year.

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Levoy Finicum was very polite to the FBI. They has civil discussions where no one on either side became violent or pointed guns at each other. The FBI never told him they would use deadly force, so everything leading up to the road block was a complete surprise. They were shot at the first stop which caused Levoy to flee for his safety and the ones in the truck with him. If they shot at him at the first stop, perhaps they shot at him at the second stop? Why no other video but a garbage low pixel ariel? With all the dash cams and GoPros, don't you think the FBI would want to document at justified shooting of hundreds of rounds at Levoy and the truck? Why leave the cameras out of it? They also picked a spot where there was no cell reception so no one could upload video to cloud or youtube. The whole thing was an assassination and anyone with the ability to think rationally can see this.

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Way cool that Cliven, Ammon, and Ryan get to have meals together now. Family time...so sweet.

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Yes, indeed. There are a variety of high tech nuggets hidden around Eugene. We hardly hear about them. MLD specializes in applying very thin films of materials onto glass or other substrates to make high performance mirrors of various kinds. Too bad the RG doesn't highlight some of the local tech firms other than software.

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Hillary: A governmental agency that manages millions of acres, for the recreational benefit of millions of Americans, contracts many of those acres out to grazing at below market value, maintains campgrounds, and recreation sites, many for no charge, and provides many opportunities for any citizen who wishes, to get out and away from it all, is considered a "Bully", a very interesting viewpoint, for sure. Also somewhat off point, but interesting none the less.

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Carrying a loaded firearm with your finger on the trigger on one of those things? I wonder what other great decisions were being made by that individual. I agree with Hoverboard Nation, they're here to stay. They just need to take care of some of the technical bugs. The stupid things people are going to do on one them will always be around. I wonder if anyone has ever shot someone with a gun while falling off a skateboard.

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When we quit locking everyone up in the State Hospital who was 'different' in any way and went to the "danger to self or others" standard as the only test for mandatory hospitalization and treatment, we invented these results. The appellate courts routinely overturn local judges who are concerned about mentally ill people unless that standard is met. Until they actually harm someone or themselves, if they aren't willing to participate in treatment, nothing can be forced upon them. I don't see a solution. Hand wringing just doesn't do it.

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"This aggression will not stand, man." Go Dude! Go Ducks!

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I'm having trouble understanding how this was an "ordeal" for anyone except maybe the families of law enforcement and the occupiers, worried about their respective loved ones being hurt in a shootout. For most of us, it just meant reading daily updates online, many of which amounted to no more than gossip. Whatever "damage" was done to the refuge will be minor. Shortly before the occupation, the OPB podcast ran some stories about a volunteer snowmobile group who maintains snowmobile trails and how they overstepped their agreement with the BLM by widening paths and destroying wildlife areas. The BLM isn't even charging them what it will cost to fix it! A commenter speculated what the standoff would've been like had the occupiers been African-American. Well we know what it would've been like had they not been right-wing They would've goten a slap on the wrist!

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One of the deputies killed in Maryland used the non confrontational method. He asked the suspect if he could down with him, inquired about his day and was shot in the head. There's times for "Softly, softly" and there's times to dominate and take control. The officer has to use his judgment on which.

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On top of that, Jules Bailey ... 1. Is in full support of the 10-cents-a-gallon Portland gas tax, 2. Has promised to put a "revenue measure" (i.e., new/increased taxes) on the ballot for affordable housing, 3. Promises to lobby the legislature for a carbon tax, 4. Pushes a congestion tax. So far, he's been silent on the $1.2 billion in new taxes the public employee unions are pushing. Given his support of Measures 66 & 67, it would be reasonable to conclude he's behind the latest effort to funnel money to his past and current campaign contributors. The billion dollar question: How much more in taxes does candidate Bailey think Portlanders should pay? Is any amount too much?

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Hillary “Many of the comments over the past month amount to libel…”. If you believe this to be the case, as a staunch defender of this group, you should catalogue these libelous comments and turn them over to the “MWR protesters” and their attorneys.

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"but I need confirmation" I'm sure there is a Freeper newsletter to which you could subscribe.

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Bring awareness to Hoaxer activities & prosecute those who consciously, publicly defame, harass and emotionally abuse the victims of high profile tragedies. Send us report about your harassment in our webpage http://honr.com

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If you live by the gun you should not be surprised when you die by the gun. LaVoy told the world he was ready to die and you are surprised when the FBI took his threat seriously? You don't need cell reception to capture video. Where is it now? Your terrorist buddies took over Malheur armed and threatened to use violence if confronted. Now you and the rest of the tinfoil hat crowd are crying that someone actually took them for their word. LaVoy died of suicide by cop. His choice.

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Anyone know why Bundy senior wasn't arrested in Nevada? I know he and his sons held off the feds at his ranch there, but was he freely coming and going from there? At any rate, another not-so-smart move by the group.

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“an 18-year-old riding a hover-board lost his balance and fatally shot his cousin, 13-year-old Lavardo Fisher, in the back “. This heartbreaking scenario is becoming all too commonplace in our country. The US now leads all developed countries in shooting deaths of innocent bystanders from falling hover-boarders. Emergency legislation is required to stop this plague now! Stop the insanity! It's for the children!

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How about if they walk? That's much more Earth-friendly, you UO kids!

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Oh lord, do you purposefully disregard the aerial footage that was released as being "edited" or altered in such a way to alter the public perception on "what actually happened?" Are you seriously THAT paranoid?

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I think the feds said they arrested him in Portland because their case against him was ready and he wouldn't be armed as he got off the airplane. Smart move by the FBI group. Many thanks.

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The elephant that remains in the room is not going away any time soon. The policy of "wait until hell freezes over before taking any action to protect the FBI and the Justice Department from being accused of using force - lest anyone should ever get hurt - against those who have and/or are in the process of committing criminal acts" is highly controversial. A legitimate, defensible and compelling case can be made that because the FBI and the Justice Department inexplicably allowed Cliven Bundy to face no consequences for his armed refusal to pay federal grazing fees, for years, his sons felt enabled and emboldened to illegally commandeer the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge while armed.* Richard Ellmyer North Portland * Oregon Congressman: Malheur Could Have Been Prevented With Earlier Bundy Arrest http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/oregon-democratic-congressman-vigorously-prosecute-cliven-bundy-malheur-occupiers/

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The Resturant industry has always fought for tip credit. It allows them to pay wages BELOW the minimum wage by counting an employees tips to satisfy the employer's obligation to pay the minimum wage. The employers often choose to employ workers less than the minimum hours to qualify for benefits and as parttime workers, they need the tips to get by. The reality is that workers who work lunch shifts or breakfast shifts do not get the high tip income. The reality is that nearly ALL these workers are not unionized and are subject to the employer's arbitrary assignment of hours...and number of hours...Most are also expected to share their tips with busboys, etc. . The reality is that employer violations of wage and hour laws in the resturant industry is among the highest of any industry in Oregon. That SOME fancier resturants have SOME waiters or waitresses in Portland may earn a higher wage hides the reality that MOST do not, especially outside of Portland's trendier spots.

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A legitimate, defensible and compelling case can be made that the FBI and the Justice Department should have turned off the power, blacked out communication, denied access to and from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and told the criminal perpetrators that they were all subject to arrest on DAY ONE instead of allowing the armed occupation to drag on for 41 days. The FBI and the Justice Department claimed authority yet remained in the shadows for weeks during the daily escalating crisis, placing governor Kate Brown and Harney County Sheriff, Dave Ward, as the public faces of responsibility in untenable positions.

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With the exception of The Ellmyer Report, the names of the people most responsible for the “protect the kinder and gentler reputations of the FBI and the Justice Department unless and until the public demanded action policy,” i.e. Special Agent in Charge of the Oregon FBI, Gregory T. Bretzing, and United States Attorney for the District of Oregon, Billy Williams, appeared nowhere in the Press for weeks. Only after Ammon Bundy was arrested did Bretzing and Williams show up in public to take credit. Very few Americans believe that if the Bundys were not White, Mormon and armed they would have been arrested and possibly shot during or very shortly after committing their criminal and domestic terrorist acts.

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It would prove an insurmountable danger if this Hoverboard technology fell into the wicked clutches of the terrorists.

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As expected. Create a "jungle" and expect that there will be turf fights over who can run it, who can camp in it. Mix in predators and vulnerable, dysfunctional and/or disabled ...and its a nightmare.

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Many UO kids walk and bicycle, but some cannot have enough toys. If they want, a well-heeled parent buys. It only takes one to burn down a building or kill someone. Then what, oops, sorry, my mistake, slap my wrist? What was the idiot doing carrying a gun on a hoverboard anyway?

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Highly unlikely.

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The public doesn't know how many times Finicum was shot, but his family does given that the autopsy they arranged was completed some time ago. I don't think they have released any information that contradicts what has been reported and can be seen on the video. I'd suggest waiting for more evidence to be released before passing judgment.

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The Malheur protest seems to have cause a great deal of emotional distress amongst the anti-gun crowd and the drive by media. The Christian, conservative, Caucasian Malheur cowboys got more negative press than the radicalized Muslim shooters in San Diego did. Prejudice is rampant in America.

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Motley, you just equated ALL of the remittances to Mexican illegal immigrants. That's obviously a huge distortion. You are ignoring more than 35 million people of Mexican descent who are are not illegal immigrants. Many millions of them are Americans, as much so as you or I (I'm not native American. Are you?) and all of them are here legally. And jobs? Jobs aren't made by monolithic public sectors, but millions of businesses, and households. Yes, both countries, ours and theirs, would be better off with better economic conditions in Mexico. Let's hope we find away, as individuals, and our public sector too, to make that happen. One additional note, related to oligarchy. I never thought I'd see this in our lifetime. It's time for us to look at the startling decline in distribution of wealth in the US, which is rapidly approaching what we see in Mexico. Right?

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It was not murder. LaVoy fled, endangered others, and charged the FBI. The FBI was forced to open fire then. It was suicide by cop. La Voy pledged to kill himself before allowing himself to be arrested. He did. The Bundys and their cohorts are criminals. They stole and damaged property. They are tax dodgers. They turned guns on Federal officers and threatened them. The government bent over back wards to settle this peacefully. they undercharged them for their crimes. If a gang had robbed a bank and someone dies in the commission of their crimes, the whole gang is charged with murder-even if the gang weren't the ones to shoot. That's the law. I suggest you read the Constitution yourself, and Supreme Court decisions and American History to learn the real meaning of the law and not your distorted uneducated version of it.

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“the one party rule state.” ??? Think (D) Oregon, not America.

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That's an example of ignorant and awful parenting.

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Stay tuned for the announcement of a wrongful death lawsuit ala Michael Brown.

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"There are many mysterious that science still has no testable understanding of"--yes, Outsider77, and these "mysteries" are justifiably studied within the realm of religion. Science is devoted to uncovering "mysteries"--the aspects of the natural world about which humans are ignorant. So the mystic and the scientist engage in entirely different kinds of activities. For example, the scientist spends little time in the laboratory engaged in spiritual contemplation of the mystical wonders of the universe, just as the mystic likely spends very little time quantifying phenomena with scientific instruments.

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That sounds pretty good. What are your deductibles, co-pays, out of pockets, and how much is your subsidy?

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Interesting post.........The seizure and armed occupation of federal property is, in fact, a big deal. The clearly stated intention to physically resist any efforts to remove them from such occupation (remembering they were armed) is a big deal. The attempt to use the occupation to extort the federal government to change laws, policies and released individuals from prison is a big deal. Please remember the Bundy militia were the folks who brzenly broke the law, seized the Malheur Headquarters (you characterize it as "a few dozen guys hanging out at a couple of small deserted buildings in the middle of nowhere.) broke into files, entered a lab/storage area containing Pauite historical artifacts, used federal vehicles and equipment and disrupted the Refuge for about six weeks. Breaking several federal and state laws is hardly the way to address issues. Please don't minimize and trivialize the actions of the Bundy bunch. They will face criminal charges as they richly deserve.

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ID deniers have yet to present their scientific evidence of how something originated out of nothing.

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Your idea that women promoting women candidates based on their gender is "discrimination" is spurious. The American political power structure is primarily white and male (80% & 80%), therefore, women encouraging women to vote for women candidates is not discrimination in the same way that the the political power structure is excessively skewed towards the interests of men. Men don't need to implore men to support male candidates because they already do by and large and male candidates in many cases are the only choice for voters. White men make up 31% of the population, yet they hold 65% of elected offices in the United States. This is the problem, not women encouraging other women to vote for women candidates.

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Omg OMG! Hype-Hype-HYPER ventilate! Milk the pathetic scene for every last drop of militarized adreneline you can. Ooh-rah. Really? No explosive booby traps were found? What a surprise! Did the Fibbies do a search for insurgent elves and thermonuclear unicorns too?

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Hard to watch last night. We've come to expect more this year, especially after a sweep in Arizona. They need to regroup, come out strong against Stanford and get a split.

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So nice to see the drive, the focus, the no nonsense approach as opposed to the "million little thing to fix" that we hear from Helf. I do not recall ever hearing such direct statements from an Oregon coach since Brooks. Breath of fresh air.

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It's nice to see the people standing behind their government on this issue. While I think that it's not okay for the government to limit what a business can and cannot sell, it is nice to see a combined effort going towards climate change. The way that coal should be phased out, however, should be by the consumer and not the government. It's our job to keep businesses accountable, not the governments'.

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The trials will allow everyone an opportunity to consider all the issues involved. The defendants have the right to present a defense of their actions, and the government must prove that they have broken the law, beyond a reasonable doubt, to a jury of their peers. This is how we deal with problems in a democratic society; through legal processes.

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