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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr lmpsbbs comm mot com dougb comm mot com doug bank writes here is another anecdotal story i am a picky eater and never wanted to try chinese food however i finally tried some in order to please a girl i was seeing at the time i had never heard of chinese restaurant syndrome a group of us went to the restaurant and all shared different dishes it didn t taste great but i decided it wasn t so bad we went home and went to bed early i woke up at am and puked my guts outs i threw up for so long that i m not kidding i pulled a muscle in my tongue dry heaves and everything no one else got sick and i m not allergic to anything that i know of suffice to say that i wont go into a chinese restaurant unless i am physically threatened the smell of the food makes me ill and that is a psycholgical reaction when i have been dragged in to suffer through beef and broccoli without any sauces i insist on no msg i haven t gotten sick yet i had a similar reaction to chinese food but came to a completly different conclusion i ve eaten chinese food for ages and never had problems i went with some chinese malaysian friends to a swanky chinses rest and they ordered lots of stuff i had never seen before the only thing i can remember of that meal was the first course scallops served in the shell with a soy type sauce i thought well i ve only had scallops once and i was sick after but that could have been a coincidence that night as i sat on the bathroom floor sweating and emptying my stomach the hard way i decided i would never touch another scallop i may not be allergic but i don t want to take the chance amy mossman
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re exercise and migraine in article apr ntmtv janet ntmtv com janet jakstys writes this isn t the first time that i ve had a migraine occur after exercise i m wondering if anyone else has had the same experience and i wonder what triggers the migraine in this situation heat buildup dehydration i m not giving up tennis so is there anything i can do besides get into shape and don t play at high noon to prevent this i ve gotten migraines after exercise though for me it seems to be related to exercising without having eaten recently sherri nichols snichols adobe com
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re science and methodology in article qk linnl im u cs utexas edu turpin cs utexas edu russell turpin writes in article c i bo cg news hawaii edu lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lee lady writes the difference between a nobel prize level scientist and a mediocre scientist does not lie in the quality of their empirical methodology it depends on the quality of their thinking lee lady is correct when she asserts that the difference between einstein and the average post doc physicist is the quality of their thought but what is the difference between einstein and a genius who would be a great scientist but whose great thoughts are scientifically screwy this example is probably wrong there is the case of one famous physicist telling another that he was probably wrong as i recall the quote your ideas are crazy to be sure but they are not crazy enough to be right the typical screwball is only somewhat screwy herman rubin dept of statistics purdue univ west lafayette in phone hrubin snap stat purdue edu internet bitnet purdue pur ee snap stat hrubin uucp
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article c je krl unx sas com sasghm theseus unx sas com gary merrill writes in article apr cs rochester edu fulk cs rochester edu mark fulk writes i don t think extra scientific is a very useful phrase in a discussion of the boundaries of science except as a proposed definiens extra rational is a better phrase in fact there are quite a number of well known cases of extra rational considerations driving science in a useful direction yeah but the problem with holding up the extra rational examples as exemplars or as refutations of well founded methodology is that you run smack up against such unuseful directions as lysenko such extra rational cases are curiosities not guides to methodology as has been noted before there is the distinction between motivation and method no experimental result should be accepted unless it is described in sufficient detail to be replicated and the replications do indeed reproduce the result no theoretical argument should be accepted unless it is presented in sufficient detail to be followed and reasonable knowlegeable people agree with the force of the logic but people try experiments and pursue arguments for all sorts of crazy reasons irrational motivations are not just curiousities they are a large part of the history of science there are a couple of negative points to make here a theory of qi could conceivably become accepted without direct verification of the existence of qi for example quarks are an accepted part of the standard model of physics with no direct verification what would be needed would be a theory based on qi that predicted medical reality better than the alternatives the central theoretical claim could lie forever beyond experiment as long as there was a sufficient body of experimental data that the qi theory predicted better than any other i wouldn t hold my breath waiting for the triumph of qi though i don t think that there is even a coherent theory based on it much less a theory that explains anything at all better than modern biology and it is hard to imagine a qi theory that would not predict some way of rather directly verifying the existence of qi science has not historically progressed in any sort of rational experiment data theory sequence most experiments are carried out and interpreted in pre existing theoretical frameworks the theoretical controversies of the day determine which experiments get done overall there is a huge messy affair of personal jealousies crazy motivations petty hatreds and the like that determines which experiments and which computations get done what keeps it going forward is the critical function of science results don t count unless they can be replicated the whole system is a sort of mechanism for generate and test the generate part can be totally irrational as long as the test part works properly pasteur could believe whatever he liked about chemical activity and crystals but even mitscherlich had to agree that racemic acid crystals were handed that when you separate them by handedness you get two chemicals that rotate polarized light in opposite directions and the right rotating version was indistinguishable from tartaric acid pasteur s irrational motivation had led to a replicable and important result this is where lysenko creationists etc fail they have usually not even produced coherent theories that predict much of anything when their theories do predict and are contradicted by experiment they do not concede the point and modify their theories rather they try to suppress the results lysenko or try to divert attention to other evidence they think supports their position creationists mark a fulk university of rochester computer science department fulk cs rochester edu
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re crohn s disease in article apr westminster ac uk kxaec sun pcl ac uk david watters wrote dear all i am a crohn s disease sufferer and i m interested if anyone knows of any current research that is going on into the subject i ve done some investigation myself so you don t need to spare me any details i ve had the fistulas the ileostomy etc is a cure on the horizon i am not in the medical profession so if you do reply i would appreciate plain speak i d prefer to be mailed direct as i don t always get a chance to read the news thank you in advance dave the best group to keep you informed is the crohn s and colitis foundation of america i do not know if the uk has a similar organization the address of the ccfa is ccfa park avenue south th floor new york ny usa they have a lot of information available and have a number of newsletters good luck steve
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re eugenics in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes we do this should we make a race of disease free long lived arnold schwartzenegger muscled supermen even if we can sure as long as they ll make one for me
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition gary merrill writes not every wild flight of fancy serves or can serve in the appropriate relation to a hypothesis it is somewhat interesting that when anyone is challanged to provide an example of this sort the only one they come up with is the one about kekule surely there must be others but apparently this is regarded as an extreme example of a non rational process in science whereby a successful hypothesis was proposed but how non rational is it indeed an extreme example it came out of nowhere the connection kekule saw between it and his problem is fortunate but not extraordinary i for example often receive conjure solutions hypotheses for solutions to my everyday problems at moments when i appear to myself to be occupied with activities quite removed algorithms for that new software feature come when i trample the meadow on my occasional runs alternative better ways to instruct and rear my sons arrive while i weed the garden i ll swear i am not thinking about any of it when ideas come these ideas are not the stuff of great discoveries of course but my connecting them to particular problems is fraught with deliberation and occasional fits of rationality surely it wasn t the only daydream kekule had what was special about this one could it have had something to do with a perceived analogy between the geometry of the snakes and problems concerning geometry of molecules yes and he was lucky to have such a colorful vivid image i alas will never figure out why returning worms to the loose soil of my garden brought have him count objects instead of merely count to mind regarding my year old s fledging arithmetic skills upon close examination is there a non rational mystical leap taking place or is it perhaps closer to a formal though often incomplete analogy or model the latter worms wiggling around in the dirt fascinate my son regards ted ted lehr my thoughts opinions and questions future systems technology group aws ibm internet lehr futserv austin ibm com austin tx
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition avoiding mistakes is certainly highly desirable however it is also widely acknowledged that perfectionism is inimicable to creativity and in ordinary life perfectionism carried beyond a certain point is indicative of a psychological disorder in the extreme case a perfectionist becomes so paralyzed by all the possible mistakes he might make that he is unable to even leave the house in science we want to discover as much truth about the world as possible and we also want to have as much certainty as possible about these discoveries usually there is some trade off between these two desiderata the search for scope and the search for certainty if th century mathematicians had demanded total rigor from newton and leibniz then there would probably be no calculus today because neither of the two could explain calculus in a way that really made sense since they lacked the concept of a limit and in fact because of the lack of a rigorous foundation they made a number of errors in their use of calculus it was only a hundred years later that weistrass was able to give a solid grounding for the ideas of newton and leibniz nonetheless what newton and leibniz did was undoubtedly science and mathematics gained a great deal more from the application of their important ideas than it lost through the mistakes they made in article apr kestrel edu king reasoning com dick king writes somebody writes i doubt if einstein used any formal methodology he also proposed numerous experiments which if performed would distinguish a universe in which special relativity holds from one in which it does not einstein played by the rules which demand that hypotheses only be put out there if there exists a specific experiment that could disprove them these are not the rules according to many who post to sci med and sci psychology according to these posters if it s not supported by carefully designed controlled studies then it s not science taken to the extreme i believe that the attitude that empirical studies are everything and ideas are nothing results in a complete stultification of science for one thing an insistence on an elaborate and expensive methodology results in a sort of scientific trade unionism where those outside the establishment and lacking institutional or corporate support have no chance to obtain a hearing i don t in the least believe that this is the intention of the arbiters of scientific methodology nonetheless it is one of the results and although institutional science has certainly produced many wonderful results i think it is a foolish arrogance for scientists to believe that no one outside the establishment and using less than perfect empirical methodology will ever come with anything worthwhile furthermore the big bucks approach to science promotes what i think is one of the most significant errors in science choosing to investigate questions because they can be readily handled by the currently fashionable methodology or because one can readily get institutional or corporate sponsorship for them instead of directing attention to those questions which seem to have fundamental significance for instance certain questions cannot be easily investigated with statistical methods because the relevant factors are not quantitative one could argue that this is the case for almost all questions in many areas of psychology in my opinion a perusal of many of the papers resulting from the attempt by psychologists to force these questions into a statistical framework gives the lie to russell turpin s assertion that current scientific methods avoid all known errors i think that asking the wrong question is probably the most fundamental error in science ignoring potentially valuable ideas is one of the others and i think that scientific journals are full of all too many studies done with impeccable empirical methods but which are worthless because the wrong question was asked in the first place in the arguments between behaviorists and cognitivists psychology seems less like a science than a collection of competing religious sects lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lady uhunix bitnet
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re exercise and migraine in article apr ntmtv janet ntmtv com janet jakstys writes the other day i played tennis during my lunch hour i m out of tennis shape so it was very intense exercise i got overheated and dehydrated afterwards i noticed a tingling sensation all over my head then about hours later i could feel a migraine start i continued to drink water in the afternoon i took cafergot but it didn t help and the pain started although it wasn t as intense as it usually is and about pm that night the pain subsided this isn t the first time that i ve had a migraine occur after exercise i m wondering if anyone else has had the same experience and i wonder what triggers the migraine in this situation heat buildup dehydration i m not giving up tennis so is there anything i can do besides get into shape and don t play at high noon to prevent this hi janet sounds exactly like mine same circumstance same onset symptoms same cafergot uselessness same duration in fact of all the people i know who have migraines none have been so similar there is such a wide variation between people with respect to what causes their headaches that i generally don t bother sharing what i ve learned about mine but since ours seem to be alike here are my observations i don t think it s heat per se i ve had more in winter than summer dehydration could conceivably figure though try tanking up before playing rather than after being in shape doesn t seem to help me much either i ve identified four factors that do make a difference listed in descending order of importance heavy exercise sleep deprivation fasting e g skipped breakfast physical trauma e g head bonk heavy exercise has preceded all of my post adolescent migraines but i don t get migraines after every heavy exercise session one or more of the other factors must be present usually since i discovered this i ve been nearly migraine free relapsing only once every two or three years when i get cocky it s been so long maybe i just don t get them anymore and stop being careful hope this is helpful john
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re erythromycin in article sdcc ucsd edu wsun jeeves ucsd edu fiberman writes is erythromycin effective in treating pneumonia fm not only is it effective it is in fact the drug of choice for uncomplicated cases of community acquired penumonia kenneth gilbert university of pittsburgh general internal medicine dammit not a programmer
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re emphysema question in article apr radford vak ed edu mmatusev radford vak ed edu melissa n matusevich writes thanks for all your assistance i ll see if he can try a different brand of patches although he s tried two brands already are there more than two the brands i can come up with off the top of my head are nicotrol nicoderm and habitrol there may be a fourth as well kenneth gilbert university of pittsburgh general internal medicine dammit not a programmer
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psoriatic arthritis info needed please a friend of mine has been diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis as a result of trauma sustained in a car accident several years ago the psoriasis is under control but the arthritis part of the illness is not ansaid non steroidal anti inflammatory worked pretty well for three years but isn t helping much now my friend is now taking meclomen another nsaid but this isn t helping control the pain at all in the past two months my friend has also started taking azulfadine along with the nsaid medicines but the effects of the combined drugs aren t supposed to be realized for several months as a result of the pain my friend is having problems sleeping staying in one position too long is an ordeal another major contributor to pain is that tendonitis has now developed left thumb and hand with numbness at the base of the palm bottom of feet shoulders and outer thighs the tendonitis is quite painful yet my friend s doctor has not recommended any form of treatment to relieve it the latest twist is that the doctor has dropped the anti inflammatories and is now recommending prednisone the hope is that the prednisone will relieve some of the pain from the tendonitis my friend is a year old male who feels like he s his words not mine if anyone is aware of any new treatments for psoriatic arthritis alternative courses of action support groups or literature on it i would be extremely grateful if you could e mail to me if anyone is interested i ll post a summary to this newsgroup thanks in advance donna dmp fig citib com
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re erythromycin in article sdcc ucsd edu wsun jeeves ucsd edu fiberman writes is erythromycin effective in treating pneumonia it depends on the cause of the pneumonia for treating bacterial pneumonia in young otherwise healthy non smokers erythromycin is usually considered the antibiotic of choice since it covers the two most common pathogens strep pneumoniae and mycoplasma pneumoniae david rind rind enterprise bih harvard edu
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr walter bellcore com jchen wind bellcore com jason chen writes in article apr lmpsbbs comm mot com dougb comm mot com doug bank writes i woke up at am and puked my guts outs i threw up for so long that i m not kidding i pulled a muscle in my tongue dry heaves and everything no one else got sick and i m not allergic to anything that i know of the funny thing is the personaly stories about reactions to msg vary so greatly some said that their heart beat speeded up with flush face some claim their heart skipped beats once in a while some reacted with headache some stomach ache some had watery eyes or running nose some had itchy skin or rashes more serious accusations include respiration difficulty and brain damage now here is a new one vomiting my guess is that msg becomes the number one suspect of any problem in this case it might be just food poisoning but if you heard things about msg you may think it must be it surprise surprise different people react differently to different things one slightly off the subject case in point my brother got stung by a bee i know he is allergic to bee stings but that his reaction is severe localized swelling not anaphylactic shock i could not convince the doctors of that however because that s not written in their little rule book i would not be surprised in the least to find out the some people have bad reactions to msg including headaches stomachaches and even vomiting not that the stuff is bad or poison and needs to be banned but people need to be aware that it can have a bad effect on some people lone wolf happy are they who dream dreams ed philips and pay the price to see them come true slyx cc usu edu unknown
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article c h z v crdnns crd ge com meltsner crd ge com writes i wouldn t call it a double blind but one local restaurant s soup provokes an impressive migraine headache for my wife that one take out and no other nothing unisual quote chinese restaurant syndrome crs a transient syndrome associated with arterial dilatation due to ingestion of monosodium glutamate which is used liberally in seasoning chinese food it is characterized by throbbing of the head lightheadedness tightness of the jaw neck and shoulders and bachache end quote source dorland s illustrated medical dictionary th edition w b saunders p this was known long ago brain produces and uses some msg naturally but not in doses it is served at some chinese places having said that i might add that in mho msg does not enhance flavor enoughf for me to miss it when i go to chinese places i order food without msg goos places will do it for you a prerequisite for such a service would be a waiter capable of understanding what you want good luck am alexander m milshteyn m d milsh cipr server mgh harvard edu cipr mgh in boston ma vox fax
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article apr ecsvax uncecs edu ccreegan ecsvax uncecs edu charles l creegan writes what about kekule s infamous derivation of the idea of benzene rings from a daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails is this specific enough to count certainly it turns up repeatedly in basic phil of sci texts as an example of the inventive component of hypothesizing i sometimes wonder if kekule s dream wasn t just a wee bit influenced by aromatic solvent vapors heh heh neal howard xlh dod computrac inc richardson tx doh o neal cmptrc lonestar org std disclaimer my opinions are mine not computrac s let us learn to dream gentlemen and then perhaps we shall learn the truth august kekule
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re the back machine update i have a back machine and have had one since january while i have not found it to be a panacea for my back pain i think it has helped somewhat it mainly acts to stretch muscles in the back and prevent spasms associated with pain i am taking less pain medication than i was previously the folks at back technologies are very reluctant to honor their return policy they extended my warranty period rather than allow me to return the machine when after the first month or so i was not thrilled with it they encouraged me to continue to use it abeit less vigourously like i said i can t say it is a cure all but it keeps me stretched out and i am in less pain dale m webb dvm phd of the body is water the veterinary diagnostic center other keeps you from drowning university of nebraska lincoln
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re centrifuge mr blue car access digex com wrote could somebody explain to me what a centrifuge is and what it is used for i vaguely remembre it being something that spins test tubes around really fast but i cant remember why youd want to do that purely recreational they get bored sitting in that rack all the time bob i only smile when i lie you can learn more in a bar and i ll tell you why than you can in a lawyer s office were these more than just my opinions they would have cost a bit more
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re my new diet it works great in article qk v innrm lynx unm edu bhjelle carina unm edu writes gordon banks a lot to keep from going back to morbid obesity i think all of us cycle one s success depends on how large the fluctuations in the cycle are some people can cycle only pounds unfortunately i m not one of them this certainly describes my situation perfectly for me there is a constant dynamic between my tendency to eat which appears to be totally limitless and the purely conscious desire to not put on too much weight when i get too fat i just diet exercise more with varying degrees of success to take off the extra weight usually i cycle within a lb range but smaller and larger cycles occur as well i m always afraid that this method will stop working someday but usually i seem to be able to hold the weight gain in check this is one reason i have a hard time accepting the notion of some metabolic derangement associated with cycle dieting that results in long term weight gain i have been cycle dieting for at least years without seeing such a change as mentioned in adiposity only some experience weight rebound the fact that you don t doesn t prove it doesn t happen to others chuck forsberg wa kgx tektronix reed omen caf author of ymodem zmodem professional yam zcomm and dsz omen technology inc the high reliability software v nw sauvie is rd portland or
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re can men get yeast infections in article noringc fnx v netcom com noring netcom com jon noring writes in article tammy vandenboom launchpad unc edu tammy vandenboom writes here s a potentially stupid question to possibly the wrong news group but can men get yeast infections spread them what kind of symptoms similar as women s i have a yeast infection and my husband who is a natural paranoid on a good day is sure he s gonna catch it and keeps asking me what it s like i m not sure what his symptoms would be the answer is yes and no i m sure others on sci med can expand on this jon i know from personal experience that men can get yeast infections i get rather nasty ones from time to time mostly in the area of the scrotum and the base of the penis they re nowhere near as dangerous for me as for many women but goddamn does it hurt in the summertime even in the wintertime when i sweat i get really uncomfy down there the best thing i can do to keep it under control is keep my weight down and keep cool down there shorts in degree weather that kind of thing and of course some occasional sun lost boy
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cystic breast disease my mom has just been diagnosed with cystic breast disease a big relief as it was a lump that could have been cancer her doctor says she should go off caffeine and chocolate for months as well as stopping the estrogen she s been taking for menopause related reasons she s not thrilled with this i think especially because she just gave up cigarettes soon she won t have any pleasures left now i thought i d heard that cystic breasts were common and not really a health risk is this accurate if so why is she being told to make various sacrifices to treat something that s not that big of a deal thanks for any information chris black sybase com note my mailer tends to garble subject lines
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endometriosis can anyone give me more information regarding endometriosis i heard it s a very common disease among women and if anyone can provide names of a specialist surgeon in the north carolina research triangle park area raleigh durham chapel hill who is familiar with the condition i would really appreciate it thanks naomi naomi l t courter network services specialist mcnc center for communications concert network
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re migraines and scans reply to geb cs pitt edu gordon banks if you can get away without ever ordering imaging for a patient with an obviously benign headache syndrome i d like to hear what your magic is i certainly can t always avoid it unless i want to be rude i suppose i made a decision a while back that i will not be bullied into getting studies like a ct or mri when i don t think they are indicated if the patient won t accept my explanation of why i think the study would be a waste of time and money i suggest a second opinion david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau claire wi this is patently absurd but whoever wishes to become a philosopher must learn not to be frightened by absurdities bertrand russell
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klonopin and pregnancy a from adwright iastate edu a a woman i know is tapering off klonopin i believe that is one of the a benzodiazopines she is taking a very minimal dose right now half a tablet a a day she is also pregnant my question is are there any known cases where a klonopin or similar drug has caused harmful effects to the fetus a how about cases where the mother took klonopin or similar substance and had a normal baby any information is appreciated she wants to get a feel for a what sort of risk she is taking she is in her first month of pregnancy klonopin according to the pdr physician s desk reference is not a proven teratogen there are isolated case reports of malformations but it is impossible to establish cause effect relationships the overwhelming majority of women that take klonopin while pregnant have normal babies slmr e mail jim zisfein factory com jim zisfein
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infant immune development question as an animal science student i know that a number of animals transfer immunoglobin to thier young through thier milk in fact a calf must have a sufficient amount of colostrum early milk within hours to effectively develop the immune system since for the first less than hours the intestines are open to the ig passage my question is does this apply to human infants to any degree thanks for your time responding matthew keeler c mizzou missouri edu
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr cc usu edu slyx cc usu edu writes surprise surprise different people react differently to different things one slightly off the subject case in point my brother got stung by a bee i know he is allergic to bee stings but that his reaction is severe localized swelling not anaphylactic shock i could not convince the doctors of that however because that s not written in their little rule book of course bee venom isn t a single chemical could be your brother is reacting to a different component than the one that causes anaphylactic shock in other people similarly chinese food isn t just msg there are a lot of other ingredients in it why when someone eats something with lots of ingredients they don t normally consume one of which happens to be msg do they immediately conclude that any negative reaction is to the msg i would not be surprised in the least to find out the some people have bad reactions to msg including headaches stomachaches and even vomiting i d be surprised if some of these reactions weren t due to other ingredients carl j lydick internet carl sol gps caltech edu nsi hepnet sol carl disclaimer hey i understand vaxen and vms that s what i get paid for my understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level or below so unless what i m saying is directly related to vax vms don t hold me or my organization responsible for it if it is related to vax vms you can try to hold me responsible for it but my organization had nothing to do with it
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re can men get yeast infections noring netcom com jon noring writes in article tammy vandenboom launchpad unc edu tammy vandenboom writes here s a potentially stupid question to possibly the wrong news group but can men get yeast infections spread them what kind of symptoms similar as women s i have a yeast infection and my husband who is a natural paranoid on a good day is sure he s gonna catch it and keeps asking me what it s like i m not sure what his symptoms would be the answer is yes and no i m sure others on sci med can expand on this recently someone posted an account of this unfortunately it was posted to alt tasteless so the gross details were emphasized instead of th e actual scientific facts
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re ra treatment question eulenbrg carson u washington edu julia eulenberg writes i m assuming that you mean rheumatoid arthritis ra i ve never heard of the cold treatment you mentioned i can t imagine how it would work since most of us who have rh arthr ra seem to have more problems in cold weather than in warm weather would be interested to hear more z z no obviously talking about research assistants i favor a high protein low fat diet barely adequate salary on a fixed time schedule four hours of sleep a night continuous infusion of latte unpredictable praise mixed randomly with anxiety provoking everpresent glances with lowered eyebrows unrealistic promises of rapid publication and every three months a dinner consisting of nothing but microbrewery ale and free pretzels actually mine hails from san diego and indeed has more problems in seattle in cold weather than in warm doug fitts dfitts u washington edu
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can t wear contacts after rk prk i love the faq the comment about contact lenses not being an option for any remaining correction after rk and possibly after prk is interresting why is this does anyone know for sure whether this applies to prk as well also why is it possible to get a correction in prk with involvement of only about of the corneal depth while rk is done to a depth of up to why such a difference i thought the proceedures were simmilar with the exception of a laser being the cutting tool in prk i must not be understanding all of the differences in the faq the vision was considered less clear after the surgery than with glasses alone if this is completly attributable to the intentional slight undercorrection then it can be compensated for when necessary with glasses or contacts if they can be worn afterall it is important to know if that is not the case however and some other consequence of the surgery would often interfere with clear vision the first thing that came to my mind was a fogging of the lense which glasses couldn t help would not help daniel r field aka infospunj i m just a lowly phlebe dfield oboe calpoly edu biochemistry biotechnology i m at the phlebottom california polytechnic state u of the medical totem pole
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left side pains hello to everybody i write here because i am kind of desperate for about six weeks i ve been suffering on pains in my left head side the left leg and sometimes the left arm i made many tests e g computer tomography negative lyme borreliosis negative all electrolytes in the blood in their correct range they re all o k so i should be healthy as a matter of fact i am not feeling so i was also at a neurologist s too he considered me healthy too the blood tests have shown that i have little too much of hemoglobin common range is to i unfortunately do not know about the units could these hemi sided pains be the result of this or of a also possible block of the neck muscles i have no fever and i am not feeling entirely sick but neither entirely healthy please answer by direct email on ghilardi urz unibas ch thanks for every hint nico
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re sarchoidosis hello does anybody know if sarchoidosis is a mortem desease i e if someone who tooke this desease can be kill bye this one people have died from sarcoid but usually it is not fatal and is treatable gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon hi there i m suffering from sarcoidosis at present although it s shown as a chronic rare tissue disorder it is thankfully not life threatening the very worsed thing that can happen to a non treated sufferer is glaucoma my specialists are bombarding me with prednisolone e c a cortico steriod and after four months at mg a day it s totally done away with my enlarged lymph glands so somethings happening for the good cheers nigel nigel ballard int nigel dataman demon co uk mexican food bournemouth cis radio g hoi guinness on tap united kingdom amazing and all down two wires tall skinny women two penguins are walking along an iceberg the first penguin turns to the second penguin and says it looks like you are wearing a tuxedo the second penguin turns to the first penguin and says maybe i am
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article szikopou cunews szikopou superior carleton ca steven zikopoulos writes in apr news cs brandeis edu reynold binah cc brandeis edu susan reynold w out the s writes i think the scientists are biased towards the food industry or something was the article long would anyone be interested in posting it a neuroscientist told me that msg is used as a neurotoxin that s right some labs use it to kill neurons in mice and rats vitamin a and i think vitamin d in strong enough amounts can kill the key words are dosage and exposure mechanism kenneth ng please reply to ken blue njit edu for now all this might be an elaborate simulation running in a little device sitting on someone s table j l picard st tng
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re pointer for info long shot in article zonker apr splinter coe northeastern edu regis m donovan zonker silver lcs mit edu writes this is something of a long shot but what the hell the net is full of people with strange knowledge i m looking for suggestions as to what could be causing health problems one of my relatives is having one of my cousins has had health problems for much of her life around the age of she had some gynecological problems now she s in her early mid twenties and she is going blind her eyes are not producing enough if any moisture she s been going to mass eye and ear and the doctors there have no clue what the actual cause is they have apparently tried eyedrops and such she is just about completely blind in one eye and the other is massively deteriorated sjogren s syndrome has been known to induce dryness in vaginal tissue as well as induce primary biliary cirrhosis otherwise the abdominal swelling could be due to a complication of sjogren s known as pseudolymphoma which can produce a splenomegaly enlarged spleen she should definitely see a rheumatologist since you don t mention skin disorder anemia or joint pain you d probably rule out erythema nodosum or scleroderma josh backon vms huji ac il also and this may or may not be related she is having some changes in her abdomen her stomach has swelled i m not sure if this is stomach the organ or stomach teh area of the body i guess the step they re going to take next is to do a whole battery of tests to check all the other internal systmes besides just the eyes but just because the net is a source of large amounts of bizarre knowledge i m going to ask has anyone ever heard of anything like this suggestions of things to ask about since much of my knowledge about her state comes second or third hand thanks regis zonker silver lcs mit edu
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article apr cs rochester edu fulk cs rochester edu mark fulk writes science has not historically progressed in any sort of rational experiment data theory sequence most experiments are carried out and interpreted in pre existing theoretical frameworks the theoretical controversies of the day determine which experiments get done overall there is a huge messy affair of personal jealousies crazy motivations petty hatreds and the like that determines which experiments and which computations get done what keeps it going forward is the critical function of science results don t count unless they can be replicated the whole system is a sort of mechanism for generate and test the generate part can be totally irrational as long as the test part works properly i think we agree on much however the paragraphs above seem to repeat uncritically the standard kuhn lakatos feyerabend view of progress and rationality in science since i ve addressed these issues in this newsgroup in the not too distant past i won t go into them again now what is wrong with the above observation is that it explicitly gives the impression and you may not in fact hold this view that the common perhaps even the correct approach for a scientist to follow is to sit around having flights of fancy and scheming on the basis of his jealousies and petty hatreds it further at least implicitly advances the position that sciences goes forward and it is not clear what this means given the context in which it occurs by generating in a completely non rational and even random way a plethora of hypotheses and theories that are then weeded out via the critical function of science though why this critical function should be less subject to the non rational forces is a mystery if experimental design hypotheses creation and theory construction are subject to jealousies and petty hatreds then this must be equally true of the application of any critical function concerning replication this is what leads one ala feyerabend to an anything goes view true the generation part can be totally irrational but typically it is not anecdotes concerning instances where a hypothesis seems to have resulted in some way from a dream or from one s political views simply do not generalize well to the actual history of science gary h merrill principal systems developer c compiler development sas institute inc sas campus dr cary nc sasghm theseus unx sas com mcnc sas sasghm
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re seeking advice experience with back problem in article c fi r yz cbnewsk cb att com janet m cooper jmcooper cbnewsk cb att com writes the mother of a friend of mine is experiencing a disabling back pain after mris ct scans and doctors visits she has been presented with alternatives live with the pain or undergo a somewhat risky operation which may leave her paralyzed she also has a since her symptoms are only pain she would do weel to seek the advice of a good multi disciplinary pain clinic it is distressing to think that people are stll being told they have to live with the pain when many options for pain management rather than treating mri findings are available a good pain clinic will accept that this lady s problem is her pain and set about finding ways of relieveing that don mackie his opinions um anesthesiology will disavow
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re options before back surgery for protruding disc at l l subject options before back surgery for protruding disc at l l from alex miller amiller almaden ibm com date apr gmt in article coyote uucp alex miller amiller almaden ibm com writes after two weeks of limping around with an acute pain in my low back and right leg my osteopath sent me to get an mri which revealed a protruding and extruded disc at l l i went to a neurosurgeon who prescribed prednisole a steroidal anti inflamitory and bed rest for several days it s been nearly a week and overall i feel slightly worse i take darvocet three times a day so i can deal with daily activities like preparing food and help me get to sleep i ll see the neurosurgeon tomorrow and of course i ll be asking whether or not this rest is helpful or if surgery is the next step what are my non surgical options if my goal is to resume full activity including competitive cycling i should add this condition is in my opinion the result of commulative wear and tear i ve had chronic low back pain for years but i managed you don t say whether or not you have any symptoms other than pain if you have numbness weakness or bladder problems for example these would suggest a need for surgery if pain is your only symptom you might do well to find a reputable multi disciplinary pain clinic in your area chronic low back pain generally doesn t do well with surgery acute on chronic pain as only symptom doesn t fare much better e correlation between mri findings and symptoms is controversial don mackie his opinions um will disavow
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looking for a doctor i was kind of half watching street stories last night and one of the segments was about this doctor in s f who provides a service of investigating treatment for various diseases i m pretty sure his name is dr mark renniger sp or close to that did anyone else watch this i d like to get his correct name and address phone number if possible thanks
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr nmr z mgh harvard edu milsh nmr z mgh harvard edu alex milshteyn writes this was known long ago brain produces and uses some msg naturally but not in doses it is served at some chinese places having said that i might add that in mho msg does not enhance flavor enoughf for me to miss it when i go to chinese places i order food without msg goos places will do it for you i just wanted to point out that some of the food particularly the soups are prepared in a big batch so the restaurant won t be able to take the msg out of it sometimes its pretty hard to find out if this is the case or not alexander m milshteyn m d milsh cipr server mgh harvard edu cipr mgh in boston ma vox fax david b considine dbc welkin gsfc nasa gov
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re can men get yeast infections in article apr galileo cc rochester edu jkis ltd uhura cc rochester edu da beave writes well folks i currently have a yeast infection i am male your best bet or at least your husband s is to treat and cure your infection before any intercourse if you must use a condom also consider other forms of sexual release ie handjobs until you are cured though i can t imagine wanting to have intercourse during a full blown yeast infection chances of it being transmitted to the male are quite low especially if he s circumcised but it can happen at one point i was getting recurrent yeast infections and the dr suspected my boyfriend might have gotten it from me and be reinfecting me the prescription was interesting for each day of the medication a week i was to insert the medication then to have intercourse the resulting action would help the medicine be spread around in me better and would simultaneously treat him
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intensive japanese at pitt in article c kxix ct cbnewsd cb att com rcj cbnewsd cb att com ray c jender writes i was kind of half watching street stories last night and one of the segments was about this doctor in s f who provides a service of investigating treatment for various diseases i m pretty sure his name is dr mark renniger sp or close to that did anyone else watch this i d like to get his correct name and address phone number if possible thanks intensive japanese at the university of pittsburgh this summer the university of pittsburgh is offering two intensive japanese language courses this summer both courses intensive elementary japanese and intensive intermediate japanese are ten week ten credit courses each equivalent to one full year of japanese language study they begin june and end august the courses meet five days per week five hours per day there is a flat rate tuition charge of per course fellowships available for science and engineering students contact steven brener program manager of the japanese science and technology management program at the university of pittsburgh at the number or address below all interested individuals are encouraged to apply this is not limited to university students new program announcement japanese science and technology management program the japanese science and technology management program jstmp is a new program jointly developed by the university of pittsbugh and carnegie mellon university students and professionals in the engineering and scientific communitites are encouraged to apply for classes commencing in june and january program objectives the program intends to promote technology transfer between japan and the united states it is also designed to let scientists engineers and managers experience how the japanese proceed with technological development this is facilitated by extended internships in japanese research facilities and laboratories that provide participants with the opportunity to develop long term professional relationships with their japanese counterparts program design to fulfill the objectives of the program participants will be required to develop advanced language capability and a deep understanding of japan and its culture correspondingly jstmp consists of three major components training in the japanese language several japanese language courses will be offered including intensive courses designed to expedite language preparation for scientists and engineers in a relatively short time education in japanese business and social culture a particular enphasis is placed on attaining a deep understanding of the cultural and educational basis of japanese management approaches in manufacturing and information technology courses will be available in a variety of departments throughout both universities including anthropology sociology history and political science moreover seminars and colloquiums will be conducted further a field trip to japanese manufacturing or research facilities in the united states will be scheduled an internship or a study mission in japan upon completion of their language and cultural training at pitt and cmu participants will have the opportunity to go to japan and observe and participate in the management of technology internships in japan will generally run for one year however shorter ones are possible fellowships covering tuition for language and culture courses as well as stipends for living expenses are available for more information and application materials contact steven brener susie brown jstmp carnegie mellon university gsia university of pittsburgh pittsburgh pa e forbes quadrangle telephone pittsburgh pa fax telephone fax interested individuals companies and institutions should respond by phone or mail please do not inquire via e mail please note that this is directed at grads and professionals however advanced undergrads will be considered further funding is resticted to us citizens and permanent residents of the us steve brener
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hypoglycemia can anyone tell me if a bloodcount of when diagnosed as hypoglycemic is dangerous i e indicates a possible pancreatic problem one dr says no the other not his specialty says the first is negligent and that another blood test should be done also what is a good diet what has worked for a hypo glycemic tia anthony anello fermilab batavia illinois
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr tms micro ti com david tms micro ti com david thomas writes in article apr delphi gsfc nasa gov packer delphi gsfc nasa gov charles packer writes is there such a thing as msg monosodium glutamate sensitivity i saw in the ny times sunday that scientists have testified before an fda advisory panel that complaints about msg sensitivity are superstition anybody here have experience to the contrary i m old enough to remember that the issue has come up at least a couple of times since the s then it was called the chinese restaurant syndrome because chinese cuisine has always used it so far i ve seen about a dozen posts of anecdotal evidence but no facts i suspect there is a strong psychological effect at work here does anyone have results from a scientific study using double blind trials check out just some posts before your own maybe you missed it amidst the flurry of responses yet again the use of this newsgroup is hampered by people not restricting their posts to matters they have substantial knowledge of for cites on msg look up almost anything by john w olney a toxicologist who has studied the effects of msg on the brain and on development it is undisputed in the literature that msg is an excitotoxic food additive and that its major constituent glutamate is essentially the premierie neurotransmitter in the mammalian brain humans included too much in the diet and the system gets thrown off glutamate and aspartate also an excitotoxin are necessary in small amounts and are freely available in many foods but the amounts added by industry are far above the amounts that would normally be encountered in a ny single food by eating lots of junk food packaged soups and diet soft drinks it is possible to jack your blood levels so high that anyone with a sensitivity to these compounds will suffer numerous real physi logical effects read olney s review paper in prog brain res and check his sources they are impecable there is no dispute dianne murray wcsbeau ccs carleton ca
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article c kv p jm unx sas com sasghm theseus unx sas com gary merrill writes in article apr cs rochester edu fulk cs rochester edu mark fulk writes what is wrong with the above observation is that it explicitly gives the impression and you may not in fact hold this view that the common perhaps even the correct approach for a scientist to follow is to sit around having flights of fancy and scheming on the basis of his jealousies and petty hatreds flights of fancy and other irrational approaches are common the crucial thing is not to sit around just having fantasies they aren t of any use unless they make you do some experiments i ve known a lot of scientists whose fantasies lead them on to creative work usually they won t admit out loud what the fantasy was prior to the consumption of a few beers simple example warren jelinek noticed an extremely heavy band on a dna electrophoresis gel of human alu fragments he got very excited hoping that he d seen some essential part of the control mechanism for eukaryotic genes this fantasy led him to sequence samples of the band and carry out binding assays the result was a well conserved or so bp sequence that occurs about times in the human genome unfortunately for warren s fantasy it turns out to be a transposon that is present in so many copies because it replicates itself and copies itself back into the genome on the other hand the characteristics of transposons were much elucidated the necessity of a cellular reverse transcriptase was recognized and the standard method of recognizing human dna was created other species have different sets of transposons fortunately for me warren and i used to eat dinner at t g i fridays all the time it further at least implicitly advances the position that sciences goes forward and it is not clear what this means given the context in which it occurs by generating in a completely non rational and even random way a plethora of hypotheses and theories that are then weeded out via the critical function of science i m not sure that it s random but there is no known rational mechanism for generating a rich set of interesting hypotheses if you are really working in an unknown area it is unlikely that you will have much sense of what might or might not be true under those circumstances the best thing to do is just follow whatever instincts you have if they are wrong you will find out soon enough but at least you will find out something if you try to do experiments at random with no prior conceptions at all in mind you will probably get nowhere though why this critical function should be less subject to the non rational forces is a mystery unfortunately the critical function does sometimes become hostage to non rational forces then we get varieties of pathological science lysenko mirsky s opposition to dna as gene cold fusion and so forth if experimental design hypotheses creation and theory construction are subject to jealousies and petty hatreds then this must be equally true of the application of any critical function concerning replication this is what leads one ala feyerabend to an anything goes view i don t agree that this follows in fact this is exactly the point at which i disagree with feyerabend it is a most important part of the culture of science that one keeps one s jealousies out of the refereeing process failures there are aplenty but on the whole things work out another point there are a couple of senses of the phrase experimental design i d say that the less rational part is in experimental choice not design alexander fleming proc royal soc chose to look for bacteriophage in his own mucus for strange reasons phage had previously been found in locust diarrhea fleming probably thought runny bottom runny nose what the hell it s worth a try but his method of looking for phage was well designed to detect anything phage like in fact he found lysozyme true the generation part can be totally irrational but typically it is not anecdotes concerning instances where a hypothesis seems to have resulted in some way from a dream or from one s political views simply do not generalize well to the actual history of science it is not clear to me what you mean by rational vs irrational perhaps you can give a few examples of surprising experiments that were tried out for perfectly rational reasons or interesting new theories that were first advanced from logical grounds the main examples i can think of are from modern high energy physics which is not typical of science as a whole mark a fulk university of rochester computer science department fulk cs rochester edu
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re is msg sensitivity superstition jason chen writes now here is a new one vomiting my guess is that msg becomes the number one suspect of any problem in this case it might be just food poisoning but if you heard things about msg you may think it must be it yeah it might if you only read the part you quoted you somehow left out the part about we all ate the same thing changes things a bit eh you complain that people blame msg automatically since it s an unknown and therefore must be the cause it is equally if not more unreasonable to defend it automatically assuming that it can t be the culprit pepper makes me sneeze if it doesn t affect you the same way fine just don t tell me i m wrong for saying so these people aren t condemning chinese food mr chen just one of its optional ingredients try not to take it so personally
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re can t wear contacts after rk prk in article apr zeus calpoly edu dfield flute calpoly edu infospunj dan field writes i love the faq the comment about contact lenses not being an option for any remaining correction after rk and possibly after prk is interresting why is this does anyone know for sure whether this applies to prk as well i ve had prk i would suggest asking a doctor about contacts mine said yes to contacts i think the scars from rk would preclude contacts also why is it possible to get a correction in prk with involvement of only about of the corneal depth while rk is done to a depth of up to why such a difference i thought the proceedures were simmilar with the exception of a laser being the cutting tool in prk i must not be understanding all of the differences no rk makes radial cuts around the circumference of the cornea up to i think and these change the curvature of the cornea through stress chages prk vaporizes burns away a thin layer from the front of the cornea making the optical axis of the eye shorter the laser doesn t cut in prk it vaporizes in rk the eye is cut into in the faq the vision was considered less clear after the surgery than with glasses alone if this is completly attributable to the intentional slight undercorrection then it can be compensated for when necessary with glasses or contacts if they can be worn afterall it is important to know if that is not the case however and some other consequence of the surgery would often interfere with clear vision the first thing that came to my mind was a fogging of the lense which glasses couldn t help would not help i find my vision is more clear for some things and less clear for others only at night i notice a definite haloing at night in the darkness when i look at automobile headlamps though this is not something i spend inordinate amounts of time doing for ordinary things my vision in particular having a fully operating peripheral vision is clearer than with glasses or contacts le jojo fresh n clean speaking out to the way you want to live today american all american doing a bit so and even more so
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article c jduo k unx sas com sasghm theseus unx sas com gary merrill writes of course we can t hope currently at least to explain how or why kekule had the daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails surely it wasn t the only daydream he had what was special about this one could it have had something to do with a perceived analogy between the geometry of the snakes and problems concerning geometry of molecules is such analogical reasoning extra scientific or is it rather at the very heart of science perice s notion of abduction the use of models within and across disciplines upon close examination is there a non rational mystical leap taking place or is it perhaps closer to a formal though often incomplete analogy or model i feel the need to repeat myself kekule s dream is a rather bad example of much of anything read root bernstein s book on the history of the benzene ring mark a fulk university of rochester computer science department fulk cs rochester edu
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article qlgdrinn b gap caltech edu carl sol gps caltech edu writes in article apr cc usu edu slyx cc usu edu writes surprise surprise different people react differently to different things one slightly off the subject case in point my brother got stung by a bee i know he is allergic to bee stings but that his reaction is severe localized swelling not anaphylactic shock i could not convince the doctors of that however because that s not written in their little rule book of course bee venom isn t a single chemical could be your brother is reacting to a different component than the one that causes anaphylactic shock in other people hmmm the last time i got stung by a bee i experienced the same reaction the first poster s brother did we went off to the doctor to see if i should worry about the fact that my foot was now about times it s normal size and itched ow he basically said i shouldn t this time but that bee sting allergy was not something you tended to get aclimatized to but were something that each time got progressively worse generally and that next time could be the time i go into anaphylactic shock admittedly this was many years ago when i was young since then i just make sure i don t get stung i also should carry a bee sting kit with me but i don t this isn t scientific or proof but this would lead me to believe it s not a different reaction just a different degree of reaction allergies work that way people have various reactions sort of like diabetes some people can get by with just monitoring their diet others have to monitor their diet and use insulin sometimes while others have to watch their diet like a hawk and use insulin regularly i think msg is probably similar some people have allergic reactions to it some people are allergic to fermented things and can t use soy sauce but the chinese have been using it for centuries that doesn t necessarily mean that it s safe for everyone johanna turner reed edu
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re chronic sinus and antibiotics in article qk inna mojo eng umd edu georgec eng umd edu george b clark writes you can also swab the inside of your nose with bacitracin using a q tip bacitracin is an antibiotic that can be bought otc as an ointment in a tube the doctor i listen to on the radio says to apply it for days while you are taking other antibiotics by mouth i have a new doctor who gave me a prescription today for something called septra ds he said it may cause gi problems and i have a sensitive stomach to begin with anybody ever taken this antibiotic any good suggestions for avoiding an upset stomach other tips phil de haan dod why yes that is my honda cl that s the nature of being an executive in america you have to rely on other people to do something you used to do yourself donald fehr executive director major league baseball players association
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re is msg sensitivity superstition carl sol gps caltech edu carl j lydick writes of course bee venom isn t a single chemical could be your brother is reacting to a different component than the one that causes anaphylactic shock in other people similarly chinese food isn t just msg there are a lot of other ingredients in it why when someone eats something with lots of ingredients they don t normally consume one of which happens to be msg do they immediately conclude that any negative reaction is to the msg arghhhhhhhhhh read the memos i said that i personally had other people order the exact same food at two different times from the same restaurant and the people that ordered the food for me did not tell me which time the msg was in the food and which time it was not in the food one time i had a reaction one time i did not the reaction came the time the msg was in the food that was the only difference same restaurant same ingredients why when someone eats something with lots of ingredients they don t normally consume one of which happens to be msg do they immediately conclude that any negative reaction is to the msg i eat lots of chinese food i love chinese food i ve just learned the following if i get food at one of the restaurants that does not use msg or if i prepare the food myself without msg or if i order the food from a restaurant that will hold the msg and i never get soup unless it s from a restaurant that cooks without the msg i do not get a reaction okay do you understand i get a reaction from msg i do not get a reaction when there is no msg if you re having trouble understand this please tell me which of the words you do not understand and i ll look them up in the dictionary for you the great secret of successful marriage is to treat all disasters as incidents and none of the incidents as disasters harold nicholson mary allison mary uicsl csl uiuc edu urbana illinois
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article qmlgainnjab hp col col hp com cab col hp com chris best writes jason chen writes now here is a new one vomiting my guess is that msg becomes the number one suspect of any problem in this case it might be just food poisoning but if you heard things about msg you may think it must be it yeah it might if you only read the part you quoted you somehow left out the part about we all ate the same thing changes things a bit eh food poisoning is only one of the many possible causes yes even other people share the food you complain that people blame msg automatically since it s an unknown and therefore must be the cause it is equally if not more unreasonable to defend it automatically assuming that it can t be the culprit boy you computer people only know s and s but not much about logic no i did not said msg was not the culprit what i argued was that that there was enough reasonable doubt to convict msg if you want to convict msg show me the evidence not quilty by suspicion pepper makes me sneeze if it doesn t affect you the same way fine just don t tell me i m wrong for saying so nobody is forcing you to change what you believe but i certainly don t want to see somebody preach to ban pepper because that makes him her sneeze that is exactly what some anti msg activitiests are doing these people aren t condemning chinese food mr chen just one of its optional ingredients try not to take it so personally look people with a last chen don t necessarily own a chinese restaurant i am not interested if you enjoy chinese food or not exploiting my last name to discredit me on the issue is hitting below the belt what i am interested in is the truth let me give you an excert from a recent fda hearing there is no evidence orally consumed glutamate has any effect on the brain said dr richard wurtman of massachusetts institute of technology the anecdotal experiences of individuals is superstition not science he said i don t think glutamate has made them sick and dr robert kenney of george washington university conducted an double blind test in showing that the people who reacted to msg also had similar reaction when they thought they had msg but actually not although there are many contradicting personal stories told in this group some of them might have been due to other causes but because the anti msg emotion runs so high that some blame it for anything and everything my purpose is to present a balance view on the issue although i am probably outnumbered jason chen
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re can t wear contacts after rk prk in article apr zeus calpoly edu dfield flute calpoly edu infospunj dan field writes i love the faq the comment about contact lenses not being an option for any remaining correction after rk and possibly after prk is interresting why is this does anyone know for sure whether this applies to prk as well also why is it possible to get a correction in prk with involvement of only about of the corneal depth while rk is done to a depth of up to why such a difference in myopia the cornea is too curved there is too much of a bulge in the center in prk the laser removes a small amount of material from the center in rk the surgeon cuts incisions near the edge they heal and the scarring reshapes the cornea entirely different mechanisms and the action is in a different place dk
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article qmlgainnjab hp col col hp com cab col hp com chris best writes jason chen writes now here is a new one vomiting my guess is that msg becomes the number one suspect of any problem in this case it might be just food poisoning but if you heard things about msg you may think it must be it yeah it might if you only read the part you quoted you somehow left out the part about we all ate the same thing changes things a bit eh perhaps now just what leads you to believe that it was msg and not some other ingredient in the food that made you ill these people aren t condemning chinese food mr chen just one of its optional ingredients try not to take it so personally and you re condemning one particular ingredient without any evidence that that s the ingredient to which you reacted carl j lydick internet carl sol gps caltech edu nsi hepnet sol carl disclaimer hey i understand vaxen and vms that s what i get paid for my understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level or below so unless what i m saying is directly related to vax vms don t hold me or my organization responsible for it if it is related to vax vms you can try to hold me responsible for it but my organization had nothing to do with it
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prozac can anyone help me find any information on the drug prozac i am writing a report on the inventors eli lilly and co and the product i need as much help as i can get thanks a lot adriana gilmete
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need advice with doctor patient relationship problem i need advice with a situation which occurred between me and a physican which upset me i saw this doctor for a problem with recurring pain he suggested medication and a course of treatment and told me that i need to call him days after i begin the medication so that he may monitor its effectiveness as well as my general health i did exactly as he asked and made the call reaching his secretary i explained to her that i was following up at the doctor s request and that i was worried because the pain episodes were becoming more frequent and the medication did not seem effective the doctor called me back and his first words were whatever you want you d better make it quick i m very busy and don t have time to chit chat with you i told him i was simply following his instructions to call on the th day to status him and that i was feeling worse i then asked if perhaps there was a better time for us to talk when he had more time he responded just spit it out now because no time is a good time said in a raised voice i started to feel upset and tried to explain quickly what was going on with my condition but my nervousness interfered with my choice of words and i kind of stuttered and then said well never mind and he said he ll talk to various colleagues about other medications and he ll call me some other time this doctor called me that evening and said because i didn t express myself well he was confused about what i wanted at this point i was pretty upset and i told him in an amazingly polite voice considering how angry i felt that his earlier manner had hurt my feelings he told me that he just doesn t have time to rap with patients and thought that was what i wanted i told him that to assume i was calling to rap was insulting and said again that i was just following through on his orders he responded that he resented the implication that he felt i was making that he was not interested in learning about what his patients have to say about their condition status he then gave me this apology i am sorry that there was a miscommunication and you mistakenly thought i was insulting i am not trying to insult you but i am not that knowledgeable about pain and i don t have a lot of time to deal with that he then told me to call him the next day for further instructions on how do deal with my pain and medication i am still upset and have not yet called my questions should i continue to have this doctor manage my care since i am in pain off and on i realize that this may cause me to be more anxietous so am i perhaps over reacting or overly sensitive if this doctor refers me to his colleague who knows more about the type of pain i have he still wants me to status him on my condition but now i am afraid to call him marlena
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re sore throat in article sdcc ucsd edu wsun jeeves ucsd edu fiberman writes i have had a sore throat for almost a week when i look into the mirror with the aid of a flash light i see white plaques in the very back of my throat on the sides i went to a health center to have a throat culture taken they said that i do not have strep throat could a viral infection cause white plaques on the sides of my throat first i am not a doctor i know about this because i have been through it it sounds like tonsilitis lit swollen tonsils feel under your jaw hinge for a swelling on each side if you find them its tonsilitis i ve had this a couple of times in the past the doctor prescribed a weeks course of penicillin and that cleared it up in my case it was associated with glandular fever which is a viral infection which from my point of view resembled flu and tonsilitis that kept coming back for a year or so there is a blood test for this in conclusion see a doctor if you have not done so already paul paul johnson paj gec mrc co uk tel ext these ideas and others like them can be had gec marconi research is not for each from any reputable idealist responsible for my opinions
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re centrifuge in article c jsm hrs lznj lincroftnj ncr com rjf lzsc lincroftnj ncr com efw robert feddeler mt t writes could somebody explain to me what a centrifuge is and what it is used for i vaguely remembre it being something that spins test tubes around really fast but i cant remember why youd want to do that purely recreational they get bored sitting in that rack all the time no this is wrong the purpose is to preserve the substances in the tubes longer by creating relativistic speeds and thus time dilatation of course by slowing the subjective time of the test tubes they get less bored which is probably what you were thinking of david rind rind enterprise bih harvard edu
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re need advice with doctor patient relationship problem sounds as though his heart s in the right place but he is not adept at expressing it what you received was meant to be a profound apology apologies delivered by overworked shy people often come out like that michael a covington associate research scientist artificial intelligence programs mcovingt ai uga edu the university of georgia phone athens georgia u s a amateur radio n tmi
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post fever rashes i get em every time the subject line says it every time i run a fever i get an amazing rosy rash over my torso and arms fortunately it doesn t itch the rash always comes on the day after the fever breaks and no matter what the illness was cold flu whatever it started happening about four years ago after i moved to my current town although i don t know if that has anything to do with anything severity and persistance of the rash seems to vary with the fever a severe or long lasting fever brings a long lasting rash a mild fever seems to bring rashes that go away faster anybody know what might be causing this it s no more than an embarassment but i d be curious to know what s going on am i carrying some kind of fever resistant bug that goes wild when fever knocks out its competition jim jones
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article qkdpk k agate berkeley edu mossman cea berkeley edu amy mossman writes i had a similar reaction to chinese food but came to a completly different conclusion i ve eaten chinese food for ages and never had problems i went with some chinese malaysian friends to a swanky chinses rest and they ordered lots of stuff i had never seen before the only thing i can remember of that meal was the first course scallops served in the shell with a soy type sauce i thought well i ve only had scallops once and i was sick after but that could have been a coincidence that night as i sat on the bathroom floor sweating and emptying my stomach the hard way i decided i would never touch another scallop i may not be allergic but i don t want to take the chance i don t react to scallops but did have discomforts with clam juice served at american waterfront seafood bars i don t know whether the juice is homemade or from cans the following is my first encounter with the chinese restaurant syndrome ten years ago about an hour after having won ton soup i collapsed in a chair with my face feeling puffed up my scalp tingling my feet too weak to stand up the symptoms lasted for about minutes determined to find out the cause of my first reaction i went back to the chinese restuarant and ordered the same dish the same thing happened a quick look inside the kitchen revealed nothing out of the ordinary i ve also had a mild attack after having soup at a thai restuarant
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article apr cs rochester edu fulk cs rochester edu mark fulk writes flights of fancy and other irrational approaches are common the crucial thing is not to sit around just having fantasies they aren t of any use unless they make you do some experiments i ve known a lot of scientists whose fantasies lead them on to creative work usually they won t admit out loud what the fantasy was prior to the consumption of a few beers simple example warren jelinek noticed an extremely heavy band on a dna electrophoresis gel of human alu fragments he got very excited hoping that he d seen some essential part of the control mechanism for eukaryotic genes this fantasy led him to sequence samples of the band and carry out binding assays the result was a well conserved or so bp sequence but why do you characterize this as a flight of fancy or a fantasy while i am unfamiliar with the scientific context here it appears obvious that his speculation for lack of a better or more neutral word was at least in significant part a consequence of his knowledge of and acceptance of current theory coupled with his observations it would appear that something quite rational was going on as he attempted to fit his observation into that theory or to tailor the theory to cover the observation this does not seem like an example of what most would normally call a flight of fancy or a fantasy it is not clear to me what you mean by rational vs irrational perhaps you can give a few examples of surprising experiments that were tried out for perfectly rational reasons or interesting new theories that were first advanced from logical grounds the main examples i can think of are from modern high energy physics which is not typical of science as a whole well i think someone else in this thread was the first to use the word also extra scientific etc nor am i prepared to give a general account of rationality in terms of examples there is some danger of beginning to quibble over what a surprising experiment is what counts as surprising etc the same may be said about logical grounds my point is that quite frequently perhaps even most frequently the roots of a new theory can be traced to previously existing theories or even to previously rejected hypotheses of some other theory or domain i would offer some rather well known examples such as toricelli s puy de dome experiment done for the sake of his sea of air hypothesis was this theory and the resulting experimental test surprising well given the prior explanations of the phenomena involved it certainly must be counted as so was the theory constructed and the experiment designed out of perfectly rational grounds well there was a pretty successful and well know theory of fluids the analogy to fluids by toricelli is explicit the novelty was in thinking of air as a fluid but this was quite a novelty at the time was the theory interesting yes was it new well one could argue that it was merely the extension of an existing theory to a new domain but i think this begs certain questions we can debate that if you like gary h merrill principal systems developer c compiler development sas institute inc sas campus dr cary nc sasghm theseus unx sas com mcnc sas sasghm
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experts on penicillin look my name is noah dacumos and i am a student at san leandro high i am doing a project for my physics class and i would like some info on the discovery of penicillin its discoverer sir alexander fleming and how it helps people with many incurable bacterias also how it effects those who are allergic to it any info will be greatly appreciated noah dacumos
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re endometriosis in article apr rock concert net naomi rock concert net naomi t courter writes can anyone give me more information regarding endometriosis i heard it s a very common disease among women and if anyone can provide names naomi endometriosis is where cells that would normally be lining the uteris exist outside the uteris sometimes this causes problems often it doesn t there is generally no need to remove pockets of endometriosis unless they are causing other problems one lady i know had endometriosis in an ovary this caused her a great deal of pain another lady i know has an endometrial cyst in her abdominal wall she is not having it removed the american fertility society has information on this and they probably maintain a list of physicians in all parts of the continent that deal with endometriosis you can reach them at the american fertility society th ave south suite birmingham alabama j f
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re prozac in c l x b eis calstate edu agilmet eis calstate edu adriana gilmete writes can anyone help me find any information on the drug prozac i am writing a report on the inventors eli lilly and co and the product i need as much help as i can get thanks a lot adriana gilmete pdr and cps are good places to starts do a medline search lots of interesting debates going on remember when prozac was impicated in suicidal behaviour steve z
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article qhu s d u agate berkeley edu spp zabriskie berkeley edu steve pope writes it s worse than that there is no such thing as a double blind study on the effects of msg by virtue of the fact that msg changes the taste of food in a characteristic way that is detectable by the subject and that cannot be duplicated by a placebo common you can easily disguise to flavor of msg by putting it in a capsule then the study becomes a double blind of msg capsules against control capsules containing exactly the same contents minus the msg mark feblowitz gte laboratories inc sylvan rd waltham ma mfeblowitz gte com fax
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr cunews carleton ca wcsbeau alfred carleton ca opirg writes in article apr tms micro ti com david tms micro ti com david thomas writes in article apr delphi gsfc nasa gov packer delphi gsfc nasa gov charles packer writes is there such a thing as msg monosodium glutamate sensitivity i saw in the ny times sunday that scientists have testified before an fda advisory panel that complaints about msg sensitivity are superstition anybody here have experience to the contrary i m old enough to remember that the issue has come up at least a couple of times since the s then it was called the chinese restaurant syndrome because chinese cuisine has always used it so far i ve seen about a dozen posts of anecdotal evidence but no facts i suspect there is a strong psychological effect at work here does anyone have results from a scientific study using double blind trials check out just some posts before your own maybe you missed it amidst the flurry of responses yet again the use of this newsgroup is hampered by people not restricting their posts to matters they have substantial knowledge of for cites on msg look up almost anything by john w olney a toxicologist who has studied the effects of msg on the brain and on development it is undisputed in the literature that msg is an excitotoxic food additive and that its major constituent glutamate is essentially the premierie neurotransmitter in the mammalian brain humans included too much in the diet and the system gets thrown off glutamate and aspartate also an excitotoxin are necessary in small amounts and are freely available in many foods but the amounts added by industry are far above the amounts that would normally be encountered in a ny single food by eating lots of junk food packaged soups and diet soft drinks it is possible to jack your blood levels so high that anyone with a sensitivity to these compounds will suffer numerous real physi logical effects read olney s review paper in prog brain res and check his sources they are impecable there is no dispute dianne murray wcsbeau ccs carleton ca in order to excitotoxin effects of msg msg that in blood must go through blood brain barrier that i am not sure msg can go through or not in normal condition the concentration of glutamate in the cerebrospinal fluid is about um that is high enough to activate one type of glutamate receptor the nmda receptor but the question is neuron and glial cell in the brain have a lots of transport to get glutamate into neuron or glial so no one know exact concentration of glutamate is around neurons glutamate is most important neurotransmitter in the central nervous system it is involved in not only in daily life like the controling of movement it is alsoinvolved in develpoment memory and learn it is involved in logn term potentialtion that be thought is the basis of learning
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr cunews carleton ca wcsbeau alfred carleton ca opirg writes so far i ve seen about a dozen posts of anecdotal evidence but no facts i suspect there is a strong psychological effect at work here does anyone have results from a scientific study using double blind trials check out just some posts before your own um i hate to break this to you but article numbers are unique per site they have no meaning on other machines maybe you missed it amidst the flurry of responses you mean the responses some of which pointed to double blind tests which show no such chinese restaurant effect unique to msg it s elicited by the placebo as well yet again the use of this newsgroup is hampered by people not restricting their posts to matters they have substantial knowledge of like youself someone who can read a scientific paper and apparently come away from it with bizarrely cracked ideas which have nothing to do with the use of this substance in human nutrition for cites on msg look up almost anything by john w olney a toxicologist who has studied the effects of msg on the brain and on development it is undisputed in the literature that msg is an excitotoxic food additive no it s undisputed in the literature that glutamate is an amino acid which is an excitatory neurotransmitter there is also evidence that excessive release of glutamate may be involved in the pathology of certain conditions like stroke drowning and lou gehrig s disease just to name a few this is a completely different issue than the use of this ubiquitous amino acid in foods people are not receiving intra ventricular injections of glutamate and that its major constituent glutamate is essentially the premierie neurotransmitter in the mammalian brain humans included i don t know about premier but it s certainly an important one too much in the diet and the system gets thrown off sez you such an effect in humans has not been demonstrated in any controlled studies infant mice and other models are useful as far as they go but they re not relevant to the matter at hand which is not to say that i favor its use in things like baby food a patently ridiculous use of the additive but we have no reason to believe that msg in the diet effects humans adversely glutamate and aspartate also an excitotoxin are necessary in small amounts and are freely available in many foods but the amounts added by industry are far above the amounts that would normally be encountered in a ny single food wrong do you know how much aspartate or phenylalanine is in a soft drink milligrams worth compare that to a glass of milk do you know how much glutamate is present in most protein containing foods compared to that added by the use of msg by eating lots of junk food packaged soups and diet soft drinks it is possible to jack your blood levels so high that anyone with a sensitivity to these compounds will suffer numerous real physi logical effects notice the subtle covering of her ass here anyone with a sensitivity we re disputing the size of that class read olney s review paper in prog brain res and check his sources they are impecable there is no dispute impeccable there most certainly is a dispute steve dyer dyer ursa major spdcc com aka ima harvard rayssd linus m c spdcc dyer
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re chronic sinus and antibiotics in article dehp calvin edu dehp calvin edu phil de haan writes in article qk inna mojo eng umd edu georgec eng umd edu george b clark writes you can also swab the inside of your nose with bacitracin using a q tip bacitracin is an antibiotic that can be bought otc as an ointment in a tube the doctor i listen to on the radio says to apply it for days while you are taking other antibiotics by mouth i have a new doctor who gave me a prescription today for something called septra ds he said it may cause gi problems and i have a sensitive stomach to begin with anybody ever taken this antibiotic any good suggestions for avoiding an upset stomach other tips i ve taken septra my daughter has taken it many times for ear infections it works sometimes it is a sulfa drug about the only problem i found was that i m sensitive and developed a rash after nine days of a ten day course no more septra for me my doctor was remiss in not telling me to watch out for a rash i was quite in the dark and didn t realize that it could be a drug reaction no harm done though doug douglas s rand drand osf org osf motif dev snail cambridge center cambridge ma disclaimer i don t know if osf agrees with me let s vote on it amateur radio kc kj
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re is msg sensitivity superstition packer delphi gsfc nasa gov charles packer writes is there such a thing as msg monosodium glutamate sensitivity i saw in the ny times sunday that scientists have testified before an fda advisory panel that complaints about msg sensitivity are superstition anybody here have experience to the contrary i m old enough to remember that the issue has come up at least a couple of times since the s then it was called the chinese restaurant syndrome because chinese cuisine has always used it my blood pressure soars my heart pounds and i can t get to sleep for the life of me feels about like i just drank cups of coffee i avoid it and beet sugar flavor enhancers beet powder and whatever other names it may go under basicaly i read the ingredients and if i don t know what they all are i don t buy the product msg sensitivity is definately real relativity schmelativity richard h clark my opinions are my own and lunatik watch for me on the road ought to be yours but under it s not my fault i voted perot no circumstances are they richard tis com those of my company
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition i agree with everything that lee lady wrote in her previous post in this thread in case this puzzles people i would like to expand on two of her comments in article c jodh ig news hawaii edu lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lee lady writes avoiding mistakes is certainly highly desirable however it is also widely acknowledged that perfectionism is inimicable to creativity in the extreme case a perfectionist becomes so paralyzed by all the possible mistakes he might make that he is unable to even leave the house one of the most important and difficult aspects of reasoning about empirical investigation lies in understanding the context scope and importance of the various arguments and pieces of evidence that are marshalled for a claim some errors break the back of a piece of research some leave a hole that needs to be filled in and some are trivial in their importance it is a grave mistake to confuse these past snippets from this thread i doubt if einstein used any formal methodology he also proposed numerous experiments which if performed would distinguish a universe in which special relativity holds from one in which it does not back to lee lady these are not the rules according to many who post to sci med and sci psychology according to these posters if it s not supported by carefully designed controlled studies then it s not science these posters are making the mistake that i have previously criticized of adhering to a methodological recipe a carefully designed and controlled study is neither always possible nor always important on the other hand if someone is proposing a remedy that supposedly alleviates a chronic medical problem we have enough knowledge of the errors that have plagued this kind of claim to ask for a carefully designed and controlled study to alleviate our skepticism rules such as support the hypothesis by a carefully designed and controlled study are too narrow to apply to all investigation i think that the requirements for particular reasoning to be convincing depends greatly on the kinds of mistakes that have occurred in past reasoning about the same kinds of things to reuse the previous example we know that conclusions from uncontrolled observations of the treatment of chronic medical problems are notoriously problematic russell
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amniocentesis et al is there some difference between the purposes behind amniocentesis and chorionic villi sampling they sound similar to me but are intended to detect different things thanks
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need help in steroid research i am doing a term paper on steroids actually the scientist who helped crate the drug i discovered that joseph fruton is one of the researchers who helped create anabolic steroids the only information on this person i know is he was a biochemist that did research in the s i already did research at my local libraries but i still need more information my instructor is requiring resources from the computer networks please write back concerning my subject any books articles etc will be appreciated
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need survival data on colon cancer a relative of mine was recently diagnosed with colon cancer i would like to know the best source of survival statistics for this disease when discovered at its various stages i would prefer to be directed to a recent source of this data rather than receive the data itself thank you barry rein brein jplpost jpl nasa gov no clever comment
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article c l ws jn unx sas com sasghm theseus unx sas com gary merrill writes in article apr cs rochester edu fulk cs rochester edu mark fulk writes genes this fantasy led him to sequence samples of the band and carry out binding assays the result was a well conserved or so bp sequence but why do you characterize this as a flight of fancy or a fantasy the fantasy was that he had found something of fundamental importance to one of the hot questions of the day he really had very little reason to believe it other than raw hope by fantasy i certainly don t mean velikovskian manias some other theory or domain i would offer some rather well known examples such as toricelli s puy de dome experiment done for the sake of his sea of air hypothesis i m not familiar with the history of this experiment although arguably i should be surprising well given the prior explanations of the phenomena involved it certainly be counted as so was the theory constructed and the experiment designed out of perfectly rational grounds well there was a pretty successful and well know theory of fluids the analogy to fluids by toricelli is explicit the novelty was in thinking of air as a fluid but this was quite a novelty at the time was the theory interesting yes was it new well one could argue that it was merely the extension of an existing theory to a new domain but i think this begs certain questions we can debate that if you like i think that it is enough if his contemporaries found the result surprising that s not what i d quibble about what i d like to know are toricelli s reasons for doing his experiment not the post hoc constructed reasons but the thoughts in his head as he considered the problem it may be impossible to know much about toricelli s thoughts that s too bad if it is so one of root bernstein s services to science is that he has gone rooting about in pasteur s and fleming s and other people s notes and has discovered some surprising clues about their motivations pasteur never publicly admitted his plan to create mirror image life but the dreams are right there in his notebooks finally public after many years ready for anyone to read and i and my friends often have the most ridiculous reasons for pursuing results one of my best came because i was mad at a colleague for a poorly written claim i disproved the claim of course toricelli s case may be an example of a rarety where the fantasy not only motivates the experiment but turns out to be right in the end mark mark a fulk university of rochester computer science department fulk cs rochester edu
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japanese for scientists and engineers intensive japanese at the university of pittsburgh this summer the university of pittsburgh is offering two intensive japanese language courses this summer both courses intensive elementary japanese and intensive intermediate japanese are ten week ten credit courses each equivalent to one full year of japanese language study they begin june and end august the courses meet five days per week five hours per day there is a flat rate tuition charge of per course fellowships available for science and engineering students contact steven brener program manager of the japanese science and technology management program at the university of pittsburgh at the number or address below all interested individuals are encouraged to apply this is not limited to university students new program announcement japanese science and technology management program the japanese science and technology management program jstmp is a new program jointly developed by the university of pittsbugh and carnegie mellon university students and professionals in the engineering and scientific communitites are encouraged to apply for classes commencing in june and january program objectives the program intends to promote technology transfer between japan and the united states it is also designed to let scientists engineers and managers experience how the japanese proceed with technological development this is facilitated by extended internships in japanese research facilities and laboratories that provide participants with the opportunity to develop long term professional relationships with their japanese counterparts program design to fulfill the objectives of the program participants will be required to develop advanced language capability and a deep understanding of japan and its culture correspondingly jstmp consists of three major components training in the japanese language several japanese language courses will be offered including intensive courses designed to expedite language preparation for scientists and engineers in a relatively short time education in japanese business and social culture a particular enphasis is placed on attaining a deep understanding of the cultural and educational basis of japanese management approaches in manufacturing and information technology courses will be available in a variety of departments throughout both universities including anthropology sociology history and political science moreover seminars and colloquiums will be conducted further a field trip to japanese manufacturing or research facilities in the united states will be scheduled an internship or a study mission in japan upon completion of their language and cultural training at pitt and cmu participants will have the opportunity to go to japan and observe and participate in the management of technology internships in japan will generally run for one year however shorter ones are possible fellowships covering tuition for language and culture courses as well as stipends for living expenses are available for more information and application materials contact steven brener susie brown jstmp carnegie mellon university gsia university of pittsburgh pittsburgh pa e forbes quadrangle telephone pittsburgh pa fax telephone fax interested individuals companies and institutions should respond by phone or mail please do not inquire via e mail please note that this is directed at grads and professionals however advanced undergrads will be considered further funding is resticted to us citizens and permanent residents of the us steve brener
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re endometriosis you may want to inquire about taking lupron as a medication it s supposed to be a new treatment and it s described in nov issue of j of obst and gyn lupron is taken as a monthly injection whereas other drugs such as danazol are taken daily as pills
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re eugenics in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes probably within years a new type of eugenics will be possible should we do this should we make a race of disease free long lived arnold schwartzenegger muscled supermen even if we can gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon two thoughts i think that psychologically it will be easier for the next generation to accept genetic manipulation it seems that people frown upon messing with nature ignoring our eons old practice of doing just that any new human intervention is arrogance and hubris and manipulation we routinely do is natural and certainly not a big deal most interesting human traits will probably be massively polygenetic and be full of trade offs in addition without a positive social environment for the cultivation of genetic gifts having them won t be the advantage it s made out to be some people will certainly pursue it as if it is the grail but we know how most of those quests turn out chris schaeffer
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re food related seizures in article paulson apr cmb larc nasa gov paulson tab larc nasa gov sharon paulson writes i am posting to this group in hopes of finding someone out there in network newsland who has heard of something similar to what i am going to describe here i have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced a seizure on november at am after eating kellog s frosted flakes she is perfectly healthy had never experienced anything like this before and there is no history of seizures in either side of the family all the tests eeg mri ekg came out negative so the decision was made to do nothing and just wait to see if it happened again well we were going along fine and the other morning april she had a bowl of another kellog s frosted kind of cereal fruit loops i am embarrassed to admit that i even bought that junk but every once in a while so i pour it in her bowl and think oh oh this is the same kind of junk she was eating when she had that seizure ten minutes later she had a full blown seizures this was her first exposure to a sugar coated cereal since the last seizure my daughter has epilepsy and i attend a monthly parent support group just wednesday night a mother was telling how she decided to throw all the junk food out and see if it made a difference in her year old s seizures he was having about one seizure per week she reported that she did this on thursday he had a seizure on saturday and then went weeks without a seizure on easter he went to grandma s and ate candy pop anything he wanted he had a seizure the next day she sees sensitivity to nutrasweet sugar colors caffine and corn with corn she says he gets very nervous and aggresive with my own daughter age i think she is also sensitive and stays away from those foods on her own she has never had gum won t eat candy prefers an apple to a cookie doesn t like chocolate and won t even use toothpaste her brother on the other hand is a junk food addict hope this helps good luck
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bouncing lymenet newsletters the following addresses are on the lymenet mailing list but are rejecting mail since the list server originally accepted these addresses successfully i assume these addresses have since been eliminated improperly functioning mail gateways might also be responsible if you are listed here and would still like to remain on the list please write to me otherwise i will remove these addresses from the list before the next newsletter goes out as a general rule please remember to unsubscribe from all your mailing lists before your account is closed this will save the listserv maintainer from many headaches lezliel sitka sun com kenneth r hall roch xerox com westmx ayoub uunet uu net absol absol com rsb panix com marc c gabriel u c box lehigh university
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miracle berries anyone from kalat j w biological psychology wadsworth publishing co belmont ca pg reproduced without permission digression miracle berries and the modification of taste receptors although the miracle berry a plant native to west africa is practically tasteless it temporarily changes the taste of other substances miracle berries contain a protein miraculin that modifies sweet receptors in such a way that they can be stimulated by acids bartoshuk gentile moskowitz meiselman if you ever get a chance to chew a miracle berry and i do recommend it for about the next half an hour all acids which are normally sour will taste sweet they will continue to taste sour as well miraculin was for a time commercially available in the united states as a diet aid the idea was that dieters could coat their tongue with a miraculin pill and then eat and drink unsweetened slightly acidic substances such substances would taste sweet without providing many calories a colleague and i once spent an evening experimenting with miracle berries we drank straight lemon juice sauerkraut juice even vinegar all tasted extremely sweet somehow we forgot how acidic these substances are we awoke the next day to find our mouths full of ulcers continued discussion of a couple other taste altering substances refs bartoshuk l m gentile r l moskowitz h r meiselman h l sweet taste induced by miracle fruit synsephalum dulcificum physiology behavior anyone ever hear of these things or know where to get them marc andersom spot colorado edu
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panic disorder more success stories i posted this to sci psychology on april and after seeing your post here on panice disorder thought it would be relevant my research indicates that two schools of thought exist the literature promoting medication says it s the superior treatment not surprisingly literature promoting cognitive therapy also claims to be superior what are the facts early in my research i didn t have a bias towards either medication or cognitive therapy i was interested in a treatment that worked after reading journals published after the cognitive therapy camp claims a higher success rate approx a lower drop out rate and no side effects associated with medication lars goran ost published an excellent article titled applied relaxation description of a coping technique and a review of controlled studies this is from behav res ther vol no pp the article provides instructions on how to perform applied relaxation ar briefly you start with two minute sessions daily and progress in weeks to performing thirty second sessions daily i ll snail mail this article to anyone interested usa only please international please pay for postage mark vonwaadn kuhub cc ukans edu
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re food related seizures i m told that corn allergy is fairly common my wife has it and it seems to be exacerbated if sugar is eaten with the corn i suppose that in a person just on the verge of having epilepsy an allergic reaction might cause a seizure but i don t really know gordon michael a covington associate research scientist artificial intelligence programs mcovingt ai uga edu the university of georgia phone athens georgia u s a amateur radio n tmi
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post polio syndrome information needed please my wife has become interested through an acquaintance in post polio syndrome this apparently is not recognised in new zealand and different symptons eg chest complaints are treated separately does anone have any information on it thanks keith
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re is msg sensitivity superstition carl lydick and you re condemning one particular ingredient without any evidence that that s the ingredient to which you reacted believe what you will the mass of anectdotal evidence combined with the lack of a properly constructed scientific experiment disproving the hypothesis makes the msg reaction hypothesis the most likely explanation for events steve
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re hepatitis b in article apr dosgate russell sinclair day canrem com russell sinclair day writes what we are really worried about is not knowing the facts the doctor has stated that things will not be good if she is a carrier and avoids further questions on the subject we really would like to know so we can take steps and plan in advance for any eventualities thank you for your very informative post right now i am just trying to find out everything that i can russ unfortunately hep b infection can eventuate in chronic hepatitis and subsequent cirrhosis although not many patients with hep b go on to chronic hepatitis it does still occur in a good number and is something to keep in mind hepatitis c was non a non b hep much more frequently leads to chronic hep and cirrhosis there is also an autimmune chronic hepatitis that affects mostly younger women which also leads to cirrhosis of course cirrhosis is a most unkind disease the most dangerous effects relate to portal hypertension and loss of liver function patients develop life threatening variceal bleeds and hepatic comas among many other problems as a result of disturbances in hepatic circulation less ominously they can exhibit the effects of hyperestrogenemia which often characterize patients with cirrhosis these effects include telangiactasias small red skin lesions and in men gynecomastia breast development the only real treatment for cirrhosis is liver transplant keep in mind that cirrhosis is not expected at least statistically in your friend s case nevertheless you might want to bring up the subject of chronic disease and cirrhosis with the doctor hopefully he or she can then carefully explain these sequelae of hep b infection to you and offer you support simon
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food related seizures sp from paulson tab larc nasa gov sharon paulson sp to describe here i have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced sp a seizure on november at am after eating kellog s frosted sp flakes sp well we were going along fine and the other morning april she had sp a bowl of another kellog s frosted kind of cereal fruit loops i am sp when i mentioned what she ate the first time as a possible reason for sp the seizure the neurologist basically negated that as an idea now sp after this second episode so similar in nature to the first even sp he is scratching his head there s no data that sugar coated cereals cause seizures i haven t even seen anything anecdotal on it given how common they are eaten do you know any child or adolescent who doesn t eat the stuff i think that if there were a relationship we would know it by now also there s nothing weird in those cereals as far as the brain is concerned except for a few infantile metabolic disorders such as galactosemia sugar is sugar regardless if it is coated on cereal sprinkled onto cereal or dissolved in soda coffee or whatever there was some interest a few years ago in aspartame lowering seizure thresholds but i don t believe anything ever came of it slmr e mail jim zisfein factory com jim zisfein
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re could this be a migraine gb from geb cs pitt edu gordon banks gb the hmo would stop the over ordering but in hmos tests are gb under ordered that s a somewhat overbroad statement i m sure there are hmos in which the fees for lab tests are subtracted from the doctor s income in most however including the one i work for there is no direct incentive to under order profits of the group are shared among all partners but the group is so large that an individual s generated costs have a miniscule effect i don t believe that we under order then again i m not really sure what the right amount of ordering is or should be relative to the average british neurologist i suspect that i rather drastically over order slmr e mail jim zisfein factory com jim zisfein
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re need advice with doctor patient relationship problem i d dump him rude is rude and it seems he enjoys belittling and humiliating you but don t just dump him write to him and tell him why you are firing him if you can think about sending a copy of your letter to whoever is in charge of the clinic where he works if applicable or maybe even to the ama don t be vindictive in your letter be truthful but very firm but don t be a victim and just put up with it take control it ll make you feel great nancy m nancy p milligan npm netcom com or npm dale cts com
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re homeopathy a respectable medical tradition in article c hlbu i a tripos com homer tripos com webster homer writes mhollowa ic sunysb edu michael holloway writes here s your error i really do think this shows some confusion on your part drum roll please science isn t so much the gathering of evidence to support an assertion read hypothesis as it is the gathering of empirical observations in order to make an hypothesis what should convince you or not shouldn t be the final product so much as how the product was made here s your error there is no observation or hypothesis that is not tainted by theory i have a theory i make observations those observations will be made with my theory in mind yes absolutely though i d make the observation in a more general sense of all observations are made by human beings and therefore made with various biases but here your message leaves talk of hypothesis and gets back once again to equating the business of science with the end result the gizmo produced science works very well at developing theories within paradigms but is very poor at dealing with paradigm shifts if i develop a novel paradigm that explains homeopathy chinese medicine or spontaneous combustion if the paradigm is useful it will show me the way to make observations that prove or disprove it my point isn t so much whether or not you have a novel paradigm but how you come about developing it the paradigm of modern medicine is that the body can be reduced to a set of essentially mechanical operations wherein disease is seen as malfunctions in the machinery essentially the old newtonian model of the world it seems likely that theories based upon this paradigm do not give a complete discription of the universe medicine healing etc indeed we now recognize an important psychological component to healing perhaps you d admit that this is an oversimplification on your part the topic of the philosophy of science is made for them i m making them too but i think that it also summarizes popular misconceptions of science and the business of doing science biomedical research doesn t make any basic assumptions that aren t the same as any other discipline of scientific research that is that you make empirical observations form an hypothesis and test it modern medicine has much more to do with biochemistry than the old newtonian model of the world and i doubt that many psychologists would appreciate being put outside this empirical world view psychology also has more to do with biochemistry than spoon bending it is also important to distinguish reason from science science may be reasonable but so are many non scientific methodologies aristotle reasoned that frogs came from mud by observing one hop out of a puddle oversimplified of course but a good example this is an empirical observa tion it was then tested though perhaps not by aristotle and eventually found wanting in the meantime some folk will have continued to believe in the spontaneous generation of animal life there s nothing at all surprising about this it s the way the gathering of knowledge works there are probably more than a few things in my own discipline of molecular biology that will be found to be totally off base even idiotic to someone in the future these future people won t have come to these relevations because they had suddenly gone all zen like and had a vision in an lsd trip someone will have thought of something new and tested it this is the bit that people who seem to relish misrepresenting science and research can t seem to wrap their minds around science is a creative process what i think of as factual and good research can be totally turned on its head tommorrow by new results and theories again i think it gets down to defining what you mean by science i often don t recognize what it is that i do and am involved in in the way science is portrayed by popular media or writings of people in the humanities they portray science as a collection of immutable facts pronouncements of truth in big gold letters that s silly its as though we just go into the lab turn over a stone and come up with a mechanism for transcriptional regula tion its much more interesting than that it really is a very human process
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re organ donation and transplantation fact sheet in a previous article dougb comm mot com doug bank says in article apr sbcs sunysb edu mhollowa ic sunysb edu organ donors are healthy people who have died suddenly usually through accident or head injury they are brain dead the organs are kept alive through mechanical means ok so how do you define healthy people my wife cannot donate blood because she has been to a malarial region in the past three years in fact she tried to have her bone marrow typed and they wouldn t even do that why i can t donate blood either because not only have i been to a malarial region but i have also been diagnosed and surgically treated for testicular cancer the blood bank wont accept blood from me for years obviously it wouldn t be of much help to treat one problem by knowingly introducing another cancer mestastizes my imperfect understanding of the facts are that gonadal cancer is particularly dangerous in this regard i haven t done the research on it but i don t recall ever hearing of a case of cancer being transmitted by a blood transfusion probably just a common sense kind of arbitrary precaution transmissable diseases like malaria though are obviously another story michael holloway e mail mhollowa ccmail sunysb edu mail to freenet is forwarded phone
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr ohsu edu tong ohsu edu gong tong writes in article apr cunews carleton ca wcsbeau alfred carleton ca opirg writes for cites on msg look up almost anything by john w olney a toxicologist who has studied the effects of msg on the brain and on development it is undisputed in the literature that msg is an excitotoxic food additive and that its major constituent glutamate is essentially the premierie neurotransmitter in the mammalian brain humans included too much in the diet and the system gets thrown off glutamate and aspartate also an excitotoxin are necessary in small amounts and are freely available in many foods but the amounts added by industry are far above the amounts that would normally be encountered in a ny single food by eating lots of junk food packaged soups and diet soft drinks it is possible to jack your blood levels so high that anyone with a sensitivity to these compounds will suffer numerous real physi logical effects read olney s review paper in prog brain res and check his sources they are impecable there is no dispute dianne murray wcsbeau ccs carleton ca in order to excitotoxin effects of msg msg that in blood must go through blood brain barrier that i am not sure msg can go through or not elevated levels of glu and asp in the blood are able to bypass the blood brain barrier through the circumventricular organs or cvo in particular the adeno and neurohypophysis pituitary gland areas the arcuate nucleus of the hypothalamus and the median eminence regions are particularly effected cvo areas are not subject to the blood brain barrier these areas control the release of gonadotropin which controls the release and flux of steroids governing development especially sexual development changes in adult rats which are less sensitive to glu than humans have been observed after ingesting glu on a chronic basis cycles of several steroids are disrupted blood levels of somatostatin are significantly reduced and cyclic release of steroids becomes flattened hope this helps dianne murray wcsbeau ccs carleton ca
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friend needs advice a friend of mine is having some symptoms and has asked me to post the following information a few weeks ago she noticed that some of her hair was starting to fall out she would touch her head and strands of hair would just fall right out by the way she is or years old it continued to occur until she had a bald spot about the size of a half dollar since that time she has gotten two more bald spots of the same size other symptoms she s described include several months of an irregular menstrual cycle which is strange for her because she has always been extremely regular laryngitis every few days she will wake up one morning and have almost no voice and then the next day it s fine dizzy spells she claims that she s had or very bad dizzy spells early in the morning including one that knocked her to the ground and general fatigue she went to a dermatologist first who couldn t find any reason for the symptoms and sent her to an internist who suspected thyroid problems he did the blood work and claims that everything came back normal she s very concerned and very confused does anyone have any ideas or suggestions i told her that i thought she should see an endocrinologist does that sound like the right idea by the way in case you are going to ask no she has recently taken any medications that would cause these symptoms no she hasn t recently changed her hair products and she hasn t gotten a perm coloring or other chemical process that might cause hair to fall out thanks in advance for any help
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eumemics was eugenics probably within years a new type of eugenics will be possible maybe even sooner we are now mapping the human genome we will then start to work on manipulation of that genome using genetic engineering we will be able to insert whatever genes we want no breeding no hybrids etc the ethical question is should we do this should we make a race of disease free long lived arnold schwartzenegger muscled supermen even if we can probably within years it will be possible to disassemble and re assemble our bodies at the molecular level not only will flawless cosmetic surgery be possible but flawless cosmetic psychosurgery what will it be like to store all the prices of shelf priced bar coded goods in your head and catch all the errors they make in the store s favor at safeway what will it be like to mentally edit and spell check your responses to the questions posed by a phone caller selling vacation time share options indeed we are today a nation at risk the threat is not from bad genes but bad memes memes are the basic units of culture as opposed to genes which are the units of genetics we stand on the brink of new meme amplification technologies harmful memes which formerly were restricted in their destructive power will run rampant over the countryside laying waste to the real benefits that future technology has to offer for example jeremy rifkin has been busy trying to whip up emotions against the new genetically engineered tomatoes under development at calgene this guy is inventing harmful memes a virtual memetic typhoid mary we must expand the public health laws to include quarantine of people with harmful memes they should not be allowed to infect other people with their memes against genetically engineered food electromagnetic fields and the space shuttle solid rocket boosters
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re need advice with doctor patient relationship problem reply to mcovingt aisun ai uga edu michael covington sounds as though his heart s in the right place but he is not adept at expressing it what you received was meant to be a profound apology apologies delivered by overworked shy people often come out like that the guy didn t sound too shy to me he sounded like a jerk i say ditch him for someone more knowledgeable and empathetic david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau claire wi this is patently absurd but whoever wishes to become a philosopher must learn not to be frightened by absurdities bertrand russell
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article c jodh ig news hawaii edu lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lee lady writes furthermore the big bucks approach to science promotes what i think is one of the most significant errors in science choosing to investigate questions because they can be readily handled by the currently fashionable methodology or because one can readily get institutional or corporate sponsorship for them instead of directing attention to those questions which seem to have fundamental significance shades of james watson that s exactly the way many workers have described their misgivings about the human genome project if you take a rigid definition of scientific research the mere accumulation of data is not doing science one of the early arguments against the project were that the resources would be better used to focus on specific genetics related problems rather than just going off and collecting maps and sequence the project can t be so narrowly defined or easily described now though
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lasers for dermatologists having had limited tinea pedis for more than years and finding it resistant to all creams and powders i have tried i wonder why dermatologists do not use lasers to destroy the fungus it would seem likely to be effective and inexpensive are there good reasons for not using lasers i was told that dermatology had not yet reached the laser age john mckay vax concordia ca deep ideas are simple odd groups are even even simples are not
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h e l p m e desperate with some vd i have bad luck and got a vd called granuloma ingunale which involves the growth of granules in the groin i found out about it by checking medicine books and i found the prescriptions and i know i can just go to a clinic to get it cured but unfortunately i am serving my duty in the army right now and i think it s impossible to prevent anyone from knowing this if i take leaves every day for two weeks for treatment thus i bought the prescribed tablets at some drugstore but to cure it i must get injection of streptomycin with a dose of g every hours for at least days i can probably buy the tools and this solution somewhere but i don t know how to do injection by myself can any kind people here tell me if it s possible to do it can i do it on my arm or it must be done on the hip only any info is welcome and please write me or post your help soon i am already taking the tablets and i can t wait please don t flame me for posting this and don t judge me i ve learned a lesson and all i need now is real medical help desperate from taipei
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selective placebo from romdas uclink berkeley edu ella i baff writes jb rr i don t doubt that the placebo effect is alive and well with jb rr every medical modality estimated by some to be around jb rr but why would it be higher with alternative versus conventional jb rr medicine jb jb because most the the time closer to in my experience there is no jb substance to the alternative intervention beyond the good intentions of the jb practitioner which in itself is quite therapeutic jb jb john badanes dc ca jb romdas uclink berkeley edu well if that s the case in your practice i have a hard time figuring out how you even managed to make it into the bottom half of your class or did you create your diplomas with crayons if someone runs a medical practice with only a success rate they either tackle problems for which they are not qualified to treat or they have no conscience and are only in business for fraudulent purposes otoh who are we kidding the new england medical journal in ran the heading ninety percent of diseases are not treatable by drugs or surgery which has been echoed by several other reports no wonder mds are not amused with alternative medicine since the magic of the placebo effect would award alternative practitioners twice the success rate of conventional medicine ron rosereader p purranoia the fear your cat is up to something rosemail usenet rose media hamilton
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scientific yawn gordon rubenfeld responds to ron roth gr ron roth rose com ron roth wrote gr gr rr well gordon i look at the results not at anyone s scientific gr rr stamp of approval gr gr if you and your patients followers are convinced as you ve written gr by your methods of uncontrolled undocumented unreported unsubstantiated gr subjective endpoint research great but why should the rest of us care gordon even if you are trying to beat this issue to death you ll never get more than a stalemate out of this one i have never tried to force my type of medicine on any of you why should i my patients are happy i m happy you and your peers seem to be the only miserable ones around bemoaning the steady loss of patients to the alternative camp just look at europe there has been a steady exodus from synthetic medicine for over a decade now and it ll be just a matter of time before more people on this continent will abandon their drug and white coat worship as well and visit different doctors for different needs gr you see ron the point isn t whether you and your patients are gr convinced that whatever it is you do works it s whether what you do is gr more effective in similar cases of whatever it is you think you are gr treating than cupping bloodletting and placebo this is very interesting i have come exactly to the same conclusions but in regards to conventional medicine you see i don t just treat little old ladies that wouldn t know any different of what is being done but a bulk of my patients consist of teachers lawyers judges nurses accountants university graduates and various health practitioners if these people have gotten results with my method after having been unsuccessful with yours or their own i certainly wouldn t lose any sleep over whether you or your peers approve of my treatments let s face it with all the blunders committed by scientific mds over the years i know a lot of people who hold your scientific method in much lower esteem than they hold mine gr as far as we know ayurveda crystals homeopathy ron roth gr which may all equal placebo administered with appropriate gr trappings sorry but i m not familiar or interested with what appears to be new age medicine ayurveda crystals with the exception of homeo pathy of which i took a course but gordon you already knew that you just wanted to make my system look a bit more far out right i use homeopathy very little since my cellular test emr is hard to beat for accuracy and minerals are more predictable while homeopathy does have a problem with reliability especially in acute conditions an exception perhaps are homeopathic nosodes which act fairly quickly and are more dependable in certain viral or bacterial situations gr my colleagues and i spend hours debating study design gr and results even of therapies currently accepted as standard gr as good well adequate scientists we are prepared if gr presented with appropriate data to abandon our most deeply held gr beliefs in favor of new ideas i have met the challenges of hundreds of sceptics by verifying the accuracy of measuring their mineral status to their total satisfac tion in other words everyone involved is happy if you were to cook a meal would you worry over whether everyone in this world would find it to their liking or only those that end up eating it since i have financed every research project that i have undertaken entirely myself i don t need to follow any of your rules or guide lines to satisfy any aspects of a grant application which you may have to neither am i concerned of whether or not my study designs meet your or anyone else s criteria or acceptance gr sorry ron if conviction were the ruler of truth a flat earth would gr still be the center of the universe and epilepsy a curse of the gods i think there would be more justification for an uneducated person growing up in an uncivilized environment to believe in a flat earth than for a civilized well educated and scientifically trained mind to follow the doctrine of evolution genetic engineering of course is now the final frontier to show god how it is properly done now we ve become capable of creating our own paradise and give disease and god the boot right but just before we get rid of him for good perhaps he could leave us some pointers on how to solve a couple of tiny problems such as war poverty racism crime riots substance abuse and one last thing could he also give us a hint on how to control natural disasters the weather and last but not least peace ron rosereader p the lab called your brain is ready rosemail usenet rose media hamilton
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selective placebo t russell turpin responds to article by ron roth t t r i don t doubt that the placebo effect is alive and well with t r every medical modality estimated by some to be around t r but why would it be higher with alternative versus conventional t r medicine t t how do you know that it is if you could show this by careful t measurement i suspect you would have a paper worthy of publication t in a variety of medical journals t t russell if you notice the question mark at the end of the sentence i was addressing that very question to that person who has a dog named sugar and a few other people who seem to be of the same opinion i would love to have anyone come up with a study to support their claims that the placebo effect is more prevalent with alternative compared to conventional medicine perhaps the study could also include how patients respond if they are dissatisfied with a conventional versus an alternative doctor i e which practitioner is more likely to get punched in the face when the success of the treatment doesn t meet the expectations of the patient ron rosereader p when in doubt make it sound convincing rosemail usenet rose media hamilton
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re eumemics was eugenics cross posted and with followups directed to talk politics theory in article cup portal com mmm cup portal com mark robert thorson writes indeed we are today a nation at risk the threat is not from bad genes but bad memes memes are the basic units of culture as opposed to genes which are the units of genetics we must expand the public health laws to include quarantine of people with harmful memes in other words we should jail people who say the wrong things in this advocacy we can see a truly ugly meme does mark robert thorson advocate jailing himself russell
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