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re human breast feeding myths or reality in article c vhwo hlt tripos com homer tripos com webster homer writes rjasoar vnet ibm com robert j alexander md writes i have an additional question how long should a mother breast feed her child a friend of mine is still nursing her two year old is this beneficial her ex husband is trying to use her coninued nursing of a two year old as proof of her being unfit to be a mother what studies have been done on breast feeding past a year etc upon the psychological health of the child web homer my wife breast fed my three boys months months and months respectively and they are and years old respectively so far everybody seems fairly normal i noticed a negative correlation with ear infections and length of time nursed in my very small sample i do notice that the and year old seem to eat a lot could that be from the breast feeding i don t understand the unfit mother charge other than any tactic is not too low down for some folks during divorce child custody battles most of the developing nations practice breast feeding to and years old are they screwed up because of it would they be much better off if they could use cow s milk or commercial formula doctors bobby akgua rjb
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recurrent volvulus recurrent volvulus this is regarding recurrent volvulus which our little boy has been suffering from ever since he was an infant he had a surgery when he was one year old another surgery had to be performed one year after when he was two years old he turned three this february and he is still getting afflicted by this illness like having to get hospitalised for vomitting and accompanying stomach pain he managed not having a third surgery so far one thing me and my wife noticed is that his affliction peaks around the time he was born on nearabouts like in march every year any significance to this why does this recur me and my family go through severe pain when our little boy have to undergo surgery why does surgery not rectify the situation also which hospital in us or canada specialize in this malady what will be a good book explaining this disease in detail will keeping a particular diet keep down the probability of recurrence as time goes on will the probability of recurrence go down considering he is getting stronger and healthier and probably less prone to attacks or is this assumption wrong any help throwing light on these queries will be highly appreciated thanks very much jose csd uwo ca
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re smoker s lungs in article apr kuhub cc ukans edu bennett kuhub cc ukans edu writes how long does it take a smoker s lungs to clear of the tar after quitting does your chances of getting lung cancer decrease quickly or does it take a considerable amount of time for that to happen seems to me that i read in either a recent ny times science times or maybe it was science news that there is evidence that ex smoker s risk of lung cancer never returns to that of a person who has never smoked i think it may get close i ll find the article and post it since my memory is hazy on the specifics if you are interested michael
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re various migraine therapies in article c htmw h j olsen ch lindy olsen ch lindy foster writes i ve been treated to many therapies for migraine prophylaxis and treatment and it looks like they ll try a few more on me i have taken propanolol i think it was mg xdaily with no relief i have just been started mg per day of propranolol is a homeopathic dose in migraine if you got fatigued at that level it is unlikely that you will tolerate enough beta blocker to help you if we go the antidepressant route what is it likely to be how do antidepressants work in migraine prophylaxis probably a single nightime dose we don t know how they work in migraine but it probably has something to do with seratonin gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re vangus nerve vagus nerve in article seismo css gov bwb seismo css gov brian w barker writes mostly right is there a connection between vomiting and fainting that has something to do with the vagus nerve stimulation of the vagus nerve slows the heart and drops the blood pressure gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re migraines in article drand mar spinner osf org drand spinner osf org douglas s rand writes so i ll ask this my neurologist just prescribed cafergot and midrin as some alternatives for me to try he stated that the sublingual tablets of ergotamine were no longer available any idea why he also suggested trying mg ibuprophen i just found out about the sublinguals disappearing too i don t know why perhaps because they weren t as profitable as cafergot too bad since tablets are sometimes vomited up by migraine patients and they don t do any good flushed down the toilet i suspect we ll be moving those patients more and more to the dhe nasal spray which is far more effective gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re aids related questions in article pxf psuvm psu edu pxf psuvm psu edu paula ford writes a friend of mine was a regular volunteer blood donor during surgery he was given five units of blood and after a suitable recovery time he went to donate blood at a bloodmobile he was hiv and did not know it the red cross notified him with a registered letter that s all no counselling no nothing he died two years ago this week he left behind how long ago was this when i said you d get counselling i meant if you did it now long ago practices varied and agencies had to gear up to provide the counselling a wife and a four year old son many people have suggested that his wife should sue the red cross but she would not she says that without the blood transfusions he would have died during the surgery good for her what we don t need is everyone suing community service agencies that provide blood that people need testing is not fool proof the fact that he got aids from a transfusion if he really did does not mean the red cross screwed up prior to or so there wasn t a good test and a lot of bad blood got through this wasn t the fault of the red cross when did he get the transfusions gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re health care reform in article lmc wrc wrgrace com custer wrc wrgrace com linda custer writes this is my first post and i am not even sure it will work here goes did anyone read the editorial on page in the march edition of time magazine noting that managed care is extremely inefficient of all the possible clients that billary could be pandering to the insurance industry is the worst comments i agree adding layers of managers and bureaucrats simply eat up money that could be spent on those who actually are doing the work such as doctors and nurse and supplies the most efficient system is probably one that has limited management and a fixed budget such as england s or even canada s i m afraid we are on the wrong track the problem may be that the insurance lobby is too powerful gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re health care reform in article mar cnsvax uwec edu nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye writes and may be a total disaster and that the canadian model is preferable a position with which i agree the other is surprising sympathy for the physicians in all of this to the effect that beating up on us won t help anything i m not sure about that did you see the poll they took that showed that most people thought physicians should be paid per year tops that s all i make but i doubt that most physicians are going to work very hard for that kind of bread many wouldn t be able to service their med school debts on that mike royko had a good column about it gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re update help was what is this is it lyme s in article mar equator com jod equator com john setel o donnell writes imho you have lyme disease i told you this in private email and predicted that you might next start having the migrating pains and further joint imho the original poster has no business soliciting diagnoses off the net nor does dr mr o donnell have any business supplying same this is one major reason real physicians avoid this newsgroup like the plague it is also another example of the double standard if i as a physician offered to diagnose and treat on the net i can be sued but people without qualifications are free to do whatever they want and disclaim it all with i m not a doctor get and keep this crap off the net period km
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re patient physician diplomacy in article c hyou iz mentor cc purdue edu hrubin pop stat purdue edu herman rubin writes in article ky b uucp km ky b pgh pa us ken mitchum writes ditto disease is a great leveling experience however some people are very much afronted to find out that all the money in the world does not buy one health everyone looks the same when they die if money does not buy one health why are we talking about paying for medical expenses for those not currently adequately covered herman i would think you of all people would could distinguish between health and treatment of disease all the prevention medicine people preach this all the time you cannot buy health you can buy treatment of disease assuming you are lucky enough to have a disease which can be treated a rich person with a terminal disease is a bit out of luck there is no such thing as adequately covered and there never will be and for what it s worth i ll be the first to admit that all my patients die km
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re immotile cilia syndrome in article mar ncsu edu andrea unity ncsu edu andrea m free kwiatkowski writes i would like to know if there is any new information out there about the subject or any new studies being conducted i am confident in my pediatrician and her communication with the people in chapel hill but since this is a life long disorder and genetically transferred i would like keep current i do realize that since this is a relatively new disorder first documented in in a fertility clinic in scandanavia and is therefore controversial i do not know a lot about this except from seeing one patient with kartagener s syndrome which is a form of immotile cilia syndrome in which there is situs inversus bronchiectasis and chronic infections situs inversus means that organs are on the wrong side of the body and can be complete or partial it is interesting medically because the normal location of organs is caused in part by the normal rotation associated with ciliary motion so that in absence of this laterality can be random people with situs inversus are quite popular at medical schools because of their rarity and the fact that most doctors get a bit upset when they can t find the patient s heart sounds because they re on the wrong side according to harrison s immotile cilia syndrom is an autosomal recessive which should imply that on average one child in four in a family would be affected but there may be much more current information on this and as usual in medicine we may be talking about more than one conditiion i would suggest that you ask your pediatrician about contacting a medical geneticics specialist of which there is probably one at ncsu km
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re lung disorders and clubbing of fingers in article slagle mar sgi msd lmsc lockheed com slagle lmsc lockheed com writes can anyone out there enlighten me on the relationship between lung disorders and clubbing or swelling and widening of the fingertips what is the mechanism and why would a physician call for chest xrays to diagnose the cause of the clubbing purists often distinguish between true clubbing and pseudo clubbing the difference being that with true clubbing the angle of the nail when viewed from the side is constantly negative when proceeding distally towards the fingertip with pseudo clubbing the angle is initially positive then negative which is the normal situation real internists can talk for hours about clubbing i m limited to a couple of minutes whether this distinction has anything to do with reality is entirely unclear but it is one of those things that internists love to paw over during rounds supposedly only true clubbing is associated with disease the problem is that the list of diseases associated with clubbing is quite long and includes both congenital conditions and acquired disease since many of these diseases are associated with cardiopulmonary problems leading to right to left shunts and chronic hypoxemia it is very reasonable to get a chest xray however many of the congenital abnormalities would only be diagnosed with a cardiac catheterization the cause of clubbing is unclear but presumably relates to some factor causing blood vessels in the distal fingertip to dilate abnormally clubbing is one of those things from an examination which is a tipoff to do more extensive examination often however the cause of the clubbing is quite apparent km
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re open letter to hillary rodham clinton how about posting one of her replies to your letters km
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re menangitis question in article c nzn mzx crdnns crd ge com brooksby brigham nosubdomain nodomain glen w brooksby writes this past weekend a friend of mine lost his month old daughter in a matter of hours to a form of menangitis the person informing me called it nicereal meningicocis sp in retrospect the disease struck her probably sometime on friday evening and she passed away about pm on saturday the symptoms seemed to be a rash that started small and then began progressing rapidly she began turning blue eventually which was the tip off that this was serious but by that time it was too late this is all second hand info my question is is this an unusual form of menangitis how is it transmitted how does it work ie how does it kill so quickly there are many organisms viral bacterial and fungal which can cause meningitits and the course of these infections varies widely the causes of bacterial meningitis vary with age in adults pneumococcus the same organism which causes pneumococcal pneumonia is the most common cause while in children hemophilus influenzae is the most common cause what you are describing is meningitis from neisseria meningitidis which is the second most common cause of bacterial meningitis in both groups but with lower incidence in infants this organism is also called the meningococcus and is the source of the common epidemics of meningitis that occur and are popularized in the press without prompt treatment and even with it in some cases the organism typically causes death within a day this organism feared as it is is actually grown from the throats of many normal adults it can get to the meninges by different ways but blood borne spread is probably the usual case rifampin an oral antibiotic is often given to family and contacts of a case of meningococcal meningitis by the way sorry but i don t have time for a more detailed reply meningitis is a huge topic and sci med can t do it justice km
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re aids related questions in article pxf psuvm psu edu pxf psuvm psu edu paula ford writes we know ours is not hiv and people need it i think my husband should give blood especially because his is o and i understand that s a very useful blood type it s o that is especially useful still he isn t punishing the red cross but some o person that needed his blood and couldn t get it you are right nagging probably won t help gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re update help was what is this is it lyme s in article mar equator com jod equator com john setel o donnell writes i shouldn t have to be posting here physicians should know the lyme literature beyond steere co s denial merry go round patients should get correctly diagnosed and treated why do you think steere is doing this isn t he acting in good faith after all as the discoverer of lyme for all intents and purposes the more famous lyme gets the more famous steere gets i don t see the ulterior motive here it is easy for me to see it the those physicians who call everything lyme and treat everything there is a lot of money involved i m a computer engineer not a doctor jim i was building a computer manufacturing company when i got lyme i lost several years of my life to near total disability partially as a result the company failed taking with it over jobs my savings and everything i d worked for for years i m one of the lucky ones in that i found a physician through the lyme foundation and now can work almost full time although i have persistent infection and still suffer a variety of sypmtoms and now i try to follow the lyme literature well it is tragic what has happened to you but it doesn t necessarily make you the most objective source of information about it if your whole life is focussed around this you may be too emotionally involved to be advising other people who may or may not have lyme certainly advocacy of more research on lyme would not be out of order though and people like you can be very effective there gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re can t breathe in article p t p mvv agate berkeley edu romdas uclink berkeley edu ella i baff writes re the prostate treatment is worse than the disease in medicine there really is something histologically identified as prostate tissue and there are observable changes which take place that whenever they occur can be identified as prostate cancer what if i told you that most chiropractorstreat subluxation spinal demons which don t exist at all therefore any tissue damage incurred in a chiropractic treatment performed in an effort to exorcise this elusive silent killer such as ligamentous damage and laxity microfracture of the joint surfaces rib fractures strokes paralysis etc is by definition worse than non treatment john badanes dc ca email romdas uclink berkeley edu what does dc stand for couldn t be an antichiropractic posting from a chiropractor could it my curiosity is piqued prostate ca is an especially troublesome entity for chiropractors it so typically causes bone pain due to spinal metastases that it gets manipulated frequently manipulating a cancer riddled bone is highly dangerous since it can then fracture i ve seen at least three cases where this happened with resulting neurologic damage including paraplegia this is one instance where knowing how to read x rays can really help a chiropractor stay out of trouble do chiropractors know what bony mets from prostate look like gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re menangitis question in article c nzn mzx crdnns crd ge com brooksby brigham nosubdomain nodomain glen w brooksby writes this past weekend a friend of mine lost his month old daughter in a matter of hours to a form of menangitis the person informing me called it nicereal meningicocis sp in retrospect the disease struck her probably sometime on friday evening and she passed away about pm on saturday the symptoms seemed to be a rash that started small and then began progressing rapidly she began turning blue eventually which was the tip off that this was serious but by that time it was too late this is all second hand info my question is is this an unusual form of menangitis how is it transmitted how does it work ie how does it kill so quickly no the neiseria meningococcus is one of the most common forms of meningitis it s the one that sometimes sweeps schools or boot camp it is contagious and kills by attacking the covering of the brain causing the blood vessels to thrombose and the brain to swell up it is very treatable if caught in time there isn t much time however the rash is the tip off infants are very susceptible to dying from bacterial meningitis any infant with a fever who becomes stiff or lethargic needs to be rushed to a hospital where a spinal tap will show if they have meningitis seizures can also occur immediate family members were told to take some kind of medication to prevent them from being carriers yet they didn t have any concerns about my wife and i coming to visit them it can live in the throat of carriers don t worry you won t get it from them especially if they took the medication gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re can t breathe in article mar tijc uucp pjs tijc uucp paul schmidt writes i think it is important to verify all procedures with proper studies to show their worthiness and risk i just read an interesting tidbit that of the medical treatments are unproven and not based on scientific fact for example many treatments of prostate cancer are unproven and the treatment may be more dangerous than the disease according to the article i read where did you read this i don t think this is true i think most medical treatments are based on science although it is difficult to prove anything with certitude it is true that there are some things that have just been found to work but we have no good explanation for why but almost everything does have a scientific rationale the most common treatment for prostate cancer is probably hormone therapy it has been proven to work so have radiation and chemotherapy what treatments did the article say are not proven gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re sinus vs migraine was re sinus endoscopy i noticed several years ago that when i took analgesics fairly regularly motrin at the time i seemed to get a lot of migraines but had forgotten about that until i started reading some of the posts here i generally don t take nsaids or tylenol for headaches because i ve found them to be ineffective however i have two other pain sources that force me to take nsaids currently naprosyn first is some pelvic pain that i get at the beginning of my period and then much worse at midcycle i have had surgery for endometriosis in the past years ago so the drs tell me that my pain is probably due to the endometriosis coming back i ve tried synarel it reduced the pain while i took it mos but the pain returned immediately after i stopped three doctors have suggested hysterectomy as the only real solution to my problem although i don t expect to have any more children i don t like the idea of having my uterus and one remaining ovary removed the first ovary was removed when i had the surgery for endometriosis one of the drs that suggested i get a hysterectomy is an expert in laser surgery but perhaps thinks that type of procedure is only worthwhile on women who still plan to have children so basically all i m left with is toughing out the pain this would be impossible without naprosyn or something similar but not aspirin that doesn t work and motrin gave me horrible gastritis a few years ago so i m through with it in fact naprosyn works very well at eliminating the pain if i take it regularly as i did when i had severe back pain and pain in both legs as i ll discuss in a moment generally though i wait until i have the pain before i take the naprosyn but then it takes several hours for it reduce the pain it s actually quite effective at reducing the pain it just takes quite a while in the meantime i m frequently in severe pain the other pain source i have is chronic lower back pain resulting in bilateral radiculopathy i ve had mris xrays ct scan and emgs i ve had of them and don t intend to ever do that again with nerve conduction tests the tests have not been conclusive as to what is causing my back and leg pain the mri reports both say i have several bulging degeneratig disks and from the xrays and mri i think it is apparent that i have arthritis the reading on the ct scan was that there are two herniations l l and l l but others hav looked at the films and concluded that there are no herniations the second emg and nerve conduction studies shows significant denervation compared to the first emg oh yeah i had some other horrible test called something like somatic evoked response which showed that the internal nerves are working fine anyway the bottom line is that i sometimes have severe pain in both legs and back pain the back pain is there all the time but i can live with it when the leg pain is there i need some analgesic anti inflammatory medication to reduce the pain to a level where i can work so i took naprosyn regulary for months every time i tried to stop the leg pain got worse so i d always resume since last november i have taken it much less frequently and primarily for the pelvic pain i have been going to physical therapy for the last months times a week after the first month or so my therapist put me on pelvic traction she had tried it earlier but it had caused a lot of pain in my back this time she tried it at a lower weight after a month or two the pain in my legs began going away but the traction aways caused discomfort in my lower back which could be reduced with ultrasound and massage so now i don t have nearly as much pain in my legs in fact my therapist took me off traction about weeks ago getting back to my original reason for this post even if i can avoid taking analgesic for headaches i really can t avoid them entirely because i have other pain sources that force me to use them oh i forgot to mention that it has been suggested to me that i have back surgery but i m avoiding that too i find the migraines difficult to deal with occassionally i have to take off work but usually i can work but at a reduced capacity i m a systems engineer and do a lot of reading and writing when the pelvic pain is bad i can t concentrate much i usually end up jumping out of my chair every few minutes because the pain is so bothersome when the pain in my back is bad it can cause severe burning in both legs shooting pains in my legs electric shock type of pain in my feet and toes and basically when it gets bad i can t really sit at all then i end up spending most of my time home and in bed so even if the analgesics contribute to the migraines the migraines are more tolerable than the other pain sources i get a lot of migraines an average of to a month which last days i ve taken cafergot the first time the caffiene really got to me so i reduced the dosage but i don t like the side effects if i take more than two i get diahrea if i get a very bad headache i will eventually take the cafergot my neurologist wasn t very helpful when i told him my problems with cafergot he said that when sumatriptan becomes available i should try that i ve tried several other medications fiornal midrin fiornal with codeine tegretol and inderal but they either didn t work or i couldn t tolerate them so what can i do my doctor s seem to be satisfied with me just trying to tolerate the pain which i agree with most of the time but not when i have a lot of pain i ve had some bad experiences with surgery my heart stopped once from the anesthesia i was told that it was likely the succinylcholine and i ve already had surgery several times anyway the point of what i m saying is that even if analgesics can contribute to migraines some people need to take them to tolerate other pain janice rathmann
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re teenage acne pchurch swell actrix gen nz pat churchill writes my y o son has the usual teenage spotty chin and greasy nose i bought him clearasil face wash and ointment i think that is probably enough along with the usual good diet however he is on at me to get some product called dalacin t which used to be a doctor s prescription only treatment but is not available over the chemist s counter i have asked a couple of pharmacists who say either his acne is not severe enough for dalacin t or that clearasil is ok i had the odd spots as a teenager nothing serious his father was the same so i don t figure his acne is going to escalate into something disfiguring but i know kids are senstitive about their appearance i am wary because a neighbour s son had this wierd malady that was eventually put down to an overdose of vitamin a from acne treatment i want to help but with appropriate treatment my son also has some scaliness around the hairline on his scalp sort of teenage cradle cap any pointers advice on this we have tried a couple of anti dandruff shampoos and some of these are inclined to make the condition worse not better shall i bury the kid till he s no i was one of the lucky ones very little acne as a teenager i didn t have any luck with clearasil even though my skin gets oily it really only gets miserable pimples when it s dry frequent lukewarm water rinses on the face might help getting the scalp thing under control might help that could be as simple as submerging under the bathwater till it s softened and washing it out taking a one a day vitamin mineral might help i ve heard iodine causes trouble and that it is used in fast food restaurants to sterilize equipment which might be where the belief that greasy foods cause acne came from i notice grease on my face not immediately removed will cause acne even from eating meat keeping hair rinse mousse dip and spray off the face will help warm water bath soaks or cloths on the face to soften the oil in the pores will help prevent blackheads body oil is hydrophilic loves water and it softens and washes off when it has a chance that s why hair goes limp with oilyness becoming convinced that the best thing to do with a whitehead is leave it alone will save him days of pimple misery any prying of black or whiteheads can cause infections the red spots of pimples usually a whitehead will break naturally in a day and there won t be an infection afterwards tell him that it s normal to have some pimples but the cosmetic industry makes it s money off of selling people on the idea that they are an incredible defect to be hidden at any cost even that of causing more pimples jackie
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re ringing ears jfare iss waterloo ncr com jim fare writes a friend of mine has a trouble with her ears ringing etc a folks do we have an faq on tinnitus yet b as a lo o o ong time sufferer of tinnitus and as a neuroscientist who has looked over the literature carefully i believe the following are reasonable conclusions millions of people suffer from chronic tinnitus the cause it not understood there is no accepted treatment that cures it some experimental treatments may have helped some people a bit but there have be no reports even anecdotal of massive good results with any of these experimental drugs some people with chronic loud tinnitus use noise blocking to get to sleep sudden onset loud tinnitus can be caused by injuries and sometimes abates or goes away after a few months aspirin is well known to exacerbate tinnitus in some people there is a national association of tinnitus sufferers in the us one usually gets used to it especially when concentrating on something else the tinnitus becomes unnoticed stress and lack of sleep make tinnitus more annoying sometimes i m sure those of us who have it wish there was a cure but there is not mark dubin the ol professor
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re jiggers i may not be the world s greatest expert on chiggers a type of mite indigenous to the south but i certainly have spent a lot of time contemplating the little buggers over the past six years since we moved to n c here are some observations gained from painful experience reactions to chiggers vary greatly from person to person some people get tiny red bites others like me are more sensitive and get fairly large swollen sore like affairs chigger bites are the gift that keeps on giving i swear that these things will itch for months there is a lot of folklore about chiggers i think most of it is fiction i have tried to do research on the critters since they have such an effect on me the only book i could find on the subject was a single book in unc s special collections library i have not yet gone through what is required to get it based on my experience and that of my family members the old folk remedy of fingernail polish simply doesn t work i recall reading that the theory upon which it is based that the chiggers burrow into your skin and continue to party there is false i think it is more likely that the reaction is to toxins of some sort the little pests release but this is speculation the best approach is prevention a couple of things work well a good insect repellent deet such as deep woods off liberally applied to ankles waistband etc is a good start there is another preparation called chig away that is a combination of sulfur and some kind of cream cortisone that originally was prepared for the army and is not commercially available in the summer i put this on my ankles every morning when i get up on weekends since i literally can t go outside where we live in the country without serious consequences they apparently don t like sulfur much at all you can use sulfur as a dust on your body or clothing to repel them no amount of prevention will be completely successful forget the fingernail polish i have finally settled upon a treatment that involves topical application of a combination of cortisone creme reduces the inflamation and swelling and benzocaine relieves the itch i won t tell you all the things i ve tried nor will i tell you some of the things my wife does since this counts as minor surgery and is best not mentioned i also think it gains nothing the swelling and itching can also be significantly relieved by the application of hot packs and this seems to speed recovery as well doctors seem not to care much about chiggers the urban and suburban doctors apparently don t encounter them much and the rural doctors seem to regard them as a force of nature that one must endure i suspect that anyone who could come up with a good treatment for chiggers would make a lot of money gary h merrill principal systems developer c compiler development sas institute inc sas campus dr cary nc sasghm theseus unx sas com mcnc sas sasghm
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re my new diet it works great in article mar inmet camb inmet com mazur bluefin camb inmet com beth mazur writes in article ov toinnh h lynx unm edu bhjelle carina unm edu writes on the other hand we do a good job of implying that the person who weighs lbs is overeating when in fact the body probably doesn t make any moral judgements about its composition conceivably the body works just as hard maintaining its weight at as someone else s does at undoubtedly it does to maintain such a weight and it does so primarily by overeating if it didn t the weight would drop back to normal gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re blindsight in article werner tol mac soe berkeley edu werner soe berkeley edu john werner writes in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks wrote explain i thought there were types of cones equivalent to rgb you re basically right but i think there are just types one is sensitive to red and green and the other is sensitive to blue and yellow this is why the two most common kinds of color blindness are red green and blue yellow yes i remember that now well in that case the cones are indeed color sensitive contrary to what the original respondent had claimed gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re sinus vs migraine was re sinus endoscopy in article lauger lauger mdc com lauger ssdgwy mdc com john lauger writes in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks wrote what s the best approach to getting off the analgesics is there something two approaches that i ve used tofranil mg qhs naproxen mg bid the naproxen doesn t seem to be as bad as things like tylenol in promoting the analgesic abuse headache dhe iv infusions for about days in hospital cold turkey is the only way i think tapering doesn t help i wouldn t know how you can do this without your doctor i haven t seen anyone successfully do it alone doesn t mean it can t be done gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re sinus vs migraine was re sinus endoscopy in article mar news eng convex com cash convex com peter cash writes by the way does the brain even have pain receptors i thought not i heard that brain surgery can be performed while the patient is conscious for precisely this reason no no we aren t talking about receptors for the brain s sensory innervation but structures such as the thalamus that handle pain for the entire organism apples and oranges gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re tuberculosis in article mar news columbia edu jhl cunixa cc columbia edu jonathan h lin writes i was wondering what steps are being taken to prevent the spread of multi drug resistant tuberculosis i ve heard that some places are thinking of incarcerating those with the disease doesn t this violate the civil rights of these individuals are there any legal precedents for such action who knows in this legal climate but there is tremendous legal precendent for forcibly quarantining tb patients in sanitariums yrs ago it was done all the time it has been done sporadically all along in patients who won t take their medicine if you have tb you may find yourself under surveilence of the public health department and you may find they have the legal power to insist you make your clinic visits gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re blindsight in article mar cs rochester edu fulk cs rochester edu mark fulk writes in article castle ed ac uk hrvoje castle ed ac uk h hecimovic writes compensation or are lesions localized to the sc too rare to be able to tell extremely rare in humans usually so much else is involved you d just have a mess to sort out birds do all vision in the tectum don t they gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re name of md s eyepiece in article c ihm gs watson ibm com clarke watson ibm com ed clarke writes it s not an eyepiece it is called a head mirror all doctors never a speculum the speculum is the little cone that fits on the end of the otoscope there are also vaginal specula that females and gynecologists are all too familiar with gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re patient physician diplomacy in article mar aoa aoa utc com carl aoa aoa utc com carl witthoft writes what is unacceptable about this is that hospitals and mds by law have no choice but to treat you if you show up sick or mangled from an accident if you aren t rich and have no insurance who is going to foot your bills do you actually intend to tell the ambulance no let me die in the gutter because i can t afford the treatment by law they would not be allowed to do that anyhow gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re exercise hypertension in article rfm psuvm psu edu rfm psuvm psu edu writes i took a stress test a couple weeks back and results came back noting exercise hypertension fool that i am i didn t ask doc what this meant and she didn t explain and now i m wondering can anyone out there enlighten and i promise next time i ll ask probably she meant that your blood pressure went up while you were on the treadmill this is normal you ll have to ask her if this is what she meant since no one else can answer for another person gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re striato nigral degeneration in article aa walrus mvhs edu ktodd walrus mvhs edu ken todd writes i would like any information available on this rare disease i understand that an operation referred to as pollidotomy may be in order does anyone know of a physician that performs this procedure all responses will be appreciated please respond via email to ktodd walrus mvhs edu it isn t that rare actually many cases that are called parkinson s disease turn out on autopsy to be snd it should be suspected in any case of parkinsonism without tremor and which does not respond to l dopa therapy i don t believe pallidotomy will do much for snd gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re morbus meniere is there a real remedy in article lindaec jglk fxm netcom com lindae netcom com writes my biggest resentment is the doctor who makes it seem like most people with dizziness can be cured that s definitely not the case in most cases like i said above it is a long tedious process that may or may not end up in a partial cure be sure to say chronic dizziness not just dizziness most patients with acute or subacute dizziness will get better the vertiginous spells of meniere s will also eventually go away however the patient is left with a deaf ear to anyone suffering with vertigo dizziness or any variation thereof my best advice to you as a fellow sufferer is this just keep searching don t let the doctors tell you there s nothing that can be done do your own research and let your this may have helped you but i m not sure it is good general advice the odds that you are going to find some miracle with your own research that is secret or hidden from general knowledge for this or any other disease are slim when good answers to these problems are found it is usually in all the newspapers until then spending a great deal of time and energy on the medical problem may divert that energy from more productive things in life a limited amount should be spent to assure yourself that your doctor gave you the correct story but after it becomes clear that you are dealing with a problem for which medicine has no good solution perhaps the best strategy is to join the support group and keep abreast of new findings but not to make a career out of it gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re donating organs in article mar sbcs sunysb edu mhollowa ic sunysb edu michael holloway writes dr banks i don t know if you make a point of keeping up with liver transplant research but you re certainly in the right place for these questions has there been anything recent in transplant proceedings or somesuch on xenografts how about liver section transplants from living donors i m sure the pittsburgh group has published the baboon work but i don t know where in chicago they were doing lobe transplants from living donors and i m sure they ve published i don t read the transplant literature i just see the liver transplant patients when they get into neurologic trouble pretty frequent so that and the newspapers and scuttlebutt is the way i keep up with what they are doing howard doyle works with them and can tell you more gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re update help was what is this is it lyme s in article mar equator com jod equator com john setel o donnell writes imho you have lyme disease i sent you in private email a summary of the treatment protocols put forth by the lyme disease foundation i respectfully suggest that you save yourself a great deal of suffering by contacting them for a lyme knowledgeable physician referral and seek treatment at once you ll know in weeks if you re on the right course and the clock is ticking on your weeks if you have it lyme if these folks are who i think they are lyme knowledgeable may mean a physician to whom everything that walks in the door is lyme disease and you will be treated for lyme whether or not you have it hope you have good insurance gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re use of codine in narcolepsy in article mar aio jsc nasa gov stevel aio jsc nasa gov steve lancaster writes is there any way around the scheduled drug mess so that he can use just the substance that works and not one adulterated with tylenol can the md perscribe a year long supply on one script his doctor basically refused to prescribe it saying his clinic does not prescribe controled substances its is company rule short of changes by the feds there is no way codeine alone is very difficult to prescribe without a lot of hassles tylenol is the best compromise that way he can get refills the amount of acetominophen he is getting with his codeine won t hurt him any gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re migraines and estrogen in article fb b w w jupiter spk wa us pwageman jupiter spk wa us peggy wageman writes i read that hormonal fluctuations can contribute to migraines could taking supplemental estrogen ert cause migraines any information i m not sure it is the fluctuation so much as the estrogen level taking premarin can certainly cause migraines in some women gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re migraine and exercise in article c iozx wx world std com rsilver world std com richard silver writes i have two questions is there any obvious connection between the flushed appearance and the migraine was i foolish to play through the migraine aside from the visual disturbance affecting my play i just prefer to ignore it when possible the flushing is due to vascular dilation part of a migraine attack some people event get puffy and swollen as long as you are careful you can see well enough to avoid getting hit in the face or eye by the ball migraine will not hurt your health gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re new multiple sclerosis drug in article news duke edu adm neuro duke edu alan magid writes disclaimer i speak only for myself so just what was it you wanted to say gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re need info on rsd in article mar rmtc central sun com lrd rmtc central sun com writes i just started working for a rehabilitation hospital and have seen rsd come up as a diagnosis several times what exactly is rsd and what is the nature of it if there is a faq on this subject i d really appreciate it if someone would mail it to me while any and all reflex sympathetic dystrophy i m sure there s an faq as i have made at least answers to questions on it in the last year or so gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re tuberculosis in article mar news wesleyan edu rginzberg eagle wesleyan edu ruth ginzberg writes but i ll be damned his rights to be sick to fail to treat his disease to spread it all over the place were indeed preserved happy several years ago i tried to commit a patient who was growing salmonella out of his stool blood and an open ulcer for treatment the idea was that the guy was a walking public health risk and that forcing him to receive iv antibiotics for a few days was in the public interest i will make a long story short by saying that the judge laughed at my idea yelled at me for wasting his time and let the guy go i found out that tuberculosis appears to be the only medical as oppsed to psychiatric condition that one can be committed for and this is because very specific laws were enacted many years ago regarding tb i am certain these vary from state to state any legal experts out there to help us on this km
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re amitriptyline in article mar julian uwo ca roberts gaul csd uwo ca eric roberts writes could someone please tell me what effect an overdose mg of amitriptyline would have probably would not be fatal in an adult at that dose but could kill a child patient would be very somnolent with dilated pupils low blood pressure possibly cardiac arrhythmias gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re medication for parkinsons in article uupcb factory com jim zisfein factory com jim zisfein writes if you want to throw around names drs donald calne terry elizan and jesse cedarbaum don t recommend selegiline not to mention dr william landau gosh jesse is that famous now he was my intern landau not liking it makes me like it out of spite just kidding bill gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re fingernail moons in article aa calcom socal com daniel prince f n z calcom socal com daniel prince writes i only have lunulas on my thumbs is there any medical significance to that finding thank you in advance for all replies try peeling the skin back at the base of your other fingernails not too hard now don t want to hurt yourself you ll find nice little lunulas there if you can peel it back enough gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re health care reform in article lmc wrc wrgrace com custer wrc wrgrace com linda custer writes also i m not sure that physician fees at the very very highest levels don t have to come down i m not talking about the bulk of physicians making good but not great salaries who have mega loans from medical school debts i d also like to see some strong ethics with teeth for physicians i agree that some specialties have gotten way out of line the main problem is the payment method for procedures rather than time distorts the system i hope they will fix that but i m afraid as usual the local doc is going to take the brunt people grouse about paying to see their home doctor in his office but don t mind paying to have brain surgery they think their local doc is cheating them but worship the feet of the neurosurgeon who saved their life what they don t realize is that we need more local docs and fewer gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re high prolactin in article jer psuvm psu edu jer psuvm psu edu john e rodway writes any comments on the use of the drug parlodel for high prolactin in the blood it can suppress secretion of prolactin is useful in cases of galactorrhea some adenomas of the pituitary secret too much gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re toxoplasmosis in article isoit bbn hp com sude isoit bbn hp com susanne denninger writes how dangerous is it from whom is it especially dangerous dangerous only to immune suppressed persons and fetuses to them it is extremely dangerous most of the rest of us have already had it and it isn t dangerous at all how is it transmitted i read about raw meat and cats but i d like to have more details cat feces are the worst pregnant women should never touch the litter box what can be done to prevent infection cook your meat watch it with pets what are the symptoms and long term effects you ll have to read up on it what treatments are availble there is an effective antibiotic that can keep it in check of course it can t reverse damage already done such as in a fetus gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re my new diet it works great in article mar omen uucp caf omen uucp chuck forsberg wa kgx writes sometime in the future diet evangelists may get off their our diet will work if only the obese would obey it mode and do useful research to allow prediction of which types of diet might be useful to a given individual diet evangelist good term fits atkins to a t gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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should patients read package inserts pdr in article mar news wesleyan edu rginzberg eagle wesleyan edu ruth ginzberg writes hmmmm here s one place where i really think the patient ought to take more responsibility for him or herself there is absolutely no reason why you can t ask the pharmacist filling the prescription for the physicians package insert for the medication when you pick it up at the pharmacy make sure to tell the pharmacist that you want the physicians package insert not the if people are going to do this i really wish they would tell me first i d be happy to go over the insert in the pdr with them and explain everything all too many patients read the insert and panic and then on the next visit sheepishly admit they were afraid to take the drug and we are starting over again at square one some of them probably didn t even come back for followup because they didn t want to admit they wouldn t take the drug or thought i was trying to kill them or something what people don t understand about the inserts is that they report every adverse side effect ever reported without substantiating that the drug was responsible the insert is a legal document to slough liability from the manufacturer to the physician if something was to happen if patients want to have the most useful and reliable information on a drug they would be so much better off getting hold of one of the ama drug evaluation books or something similar that is much more scientific there are very few drugs that someone hasn t reported a death from taking patients don t realize that and don t usually appreciate the risks to themselves properly i m sure herman is going to go ballistic but so be it another problem is that probably most drugs have been reported to cause impotence half the males who read that will falsely assume it could permanently cause them to lose sexual function and so will refuse to take any drug like that this can be a real problem for pdr readers there needs to be some way of providing patients with tools geared to them that allow them to get the information they need i am involved in a research project to do that with migraine as the domain it involves a computer system that will provide answers to questions about migraine as well as the therapy prescribed for the patient for common illnesses such as migraine and hypertension this may help quite a bit the patient could spend as much time as needed with the computer and this would then not burden the physician clearly physicians in large part fail to answer all the questions patients have as is demonstrated over and over here on the net where we get asked things that the patients should have found out from their physician but didn t why they didn t isn t always the physician s fault either sometimes the patients are afraid to ask they won t be as afraid to ask the system we hope gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re tuberculosis in article ky b uucp km ky b pgh pa us ken mitchum writes i found out that tuberculosis appears to be the only medical as oppsed to psychiatric condition that one can be committed for and this is because very specific laws were enacted many years ago regarding tb i am certain these vary from state to state i think in illinois venereal disease the old ones not aids was included syphillis was for sure gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re tuberculosis in article mar iscsvax uni edu klier iscsvax uni edu writes multiple drug resistance in tb is a relatively new phenomenon and one of the largest contributing factors is that people are no longer as scared of tb as they were before antibiotics it was roughly as feared as hiv is now not that new years ago we had drug addicts harboring active tb that was resistant to everything in chicago the difference now is that such strains have become virulent in the old days such tb was weak it didn t spread to other people very easily and just infected the one person in whom it developed because of non compliance with medications non compliance and development of resistant strains has been a problem for a very long time that is why we have like drugs against tb there is always a need to develop new ones due to such strains now however with a virulent resistant strain we are in more trouble and measures to assure compliance may be necessary even if they entail force gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re fungus epidemic in ca in article steward cup portal com john joseph deltuvia writes there was a story a few weeks ago on a network news show about some sort of fungus which supposedly attacks the bone structure and is somewhat widespread in california anybody hear anything about this one the only fungus i know of from california is coccidiomycosis i hadn t heard that it attacked bone it attacks lung and if you are especially unlucky the central nervous system nothing new about it it s been around for years they call it valley fever since it is found in the inland valleys not on the coast gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re travel outside us bangladesh in article p ciqinn th tamsun tamu edu covingc ee tamu edu just george writes i will be traveling to bangaldesh this summer and am wondering if there are any immunizations i should get before going you can probably get this information by calling your public health department in your county in pittsburgh they give the shots free as well there are bulletins in medical libraries that give recommendations or you could call the infectious diseases section of the medicine department of your local medical school you also will probably want to talk about malaria prophylaxis you will need your doctor to get the prescription gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re compartment syndrome general information references etc in article cfdd boeing com lry cfdd boeing com larry yeagley writes i have an acquaintance who has been diagnosed as having blood clots and compartment syndrome i searched the latest edition of the columbia medical encyclopedia and found nothing mosby s medical dictionary gives a very brief description which suggests it s an arterial condition can someone point me an compartment syndrome occurs when swelling happens in a compartment bounded by fascia the pressure rises in the compartment and blood supply and nerves are compromised the treatment is to open the compartment surgically the most common places for compartment syndromes are the forearm and calf it is an emergency since if the pressure is not relieved stuff will die gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re x rays in article mar leland stanford edu iceskate leland stanford edu lin writes first question how bad is x ray i ve heard that it s nothing compared to the amount of time spent under the sun and i ve also heard that it is very harmful second question is there anyway out of this yearly test for me the yearly chest x ray provides a minute amount of radiation it is a drop in the bucket as far as increased risk is concerned who can tell you whether you can get out of it or not no one here controls that it may well be a matter of the law in which case write your legislator but don t hold your breath gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re name of md s eyepiece in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes in article c ihm gs watson ibm com clarke watson ibm com ed clarke writes it s not an eyepiece it is called a head mirror all doctors never a speculum the speculum is the little cone that fits on the end of the otoscope there are also vaginal specula that females and gynecologists are all too familiar with in fairness we should note that if you look up speculum in the dictionary which i did when this question first surfaced the first definition is a mirror or polished metal plate used as a reflector in optical instruments which doesn t mean the name fits in this context but it s not as far off as you might think david wright hitachi computer products america inc waltham ma wright hicomb hi com these are my opinions not necessarily hitachi s though they are the opinions of all right thinking people
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mystery illness with spots i attended high school in the san jose california area in the early s and i remember a smallish outbreak of a strange illness in which people developed measles like spots on their bodies this condition seemed to last only a few days and i don t recall anyone reporting any other symptoms i seem to recall reading somewhere that this was believed to have been viral in nature but i don t know for sure however i have been curious since then about this anyone have any ideas about what this might have been
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re menangitis question in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes the neiseria meningococcus is one of the most common forms of meningitis it s the one that sometimes sweeps schools or boot camp it is contagious and kills by attacking the covering of the brain causing the blood vessels to thrombose and the brain to swell up it can live in the throat of carriers don t worry you won t get it from them especially if they took the medication assuming one has been cultured as having a throat laden with neiseria meningococcus and given and taken a course of eryc without the culture becoming negative should one worry about being a carrier elizabeth walkup cs washington edu
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re analgesics with diuretics on tue apr gmt dyer spdcc com steve dyer said in article ofk lve wb avukto andrew cmu edu lawrence curcio lc b andrew cmu edu writes i sometimes see otc preparations for muscle aches back aches that combine aspirin with a diuretic you certainly do not see otc preparations advertised as such the only such ridiculous concoctions are nostrums for premenstrual syndrome ostensibly to treat headache and bloating simultaneously they re worthless the idea seems to be to reduce inflammation by getting rid of fluid does this actually work that s not the idea and no they don t work i believe there is a known synergism between certain analgesics and caffiene for treating pain not inflammation now that i am an ibuprofen convert i haven t taken it for some time but excedrin really works grin nathan steve dyer dyer ursa major spdcc com aka ima harvard rayssd linus m c spdcc dyer bb nathan chemres tn cornell edu bbbbb p p
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re blindsight in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes in article werner tol mac soe berkeley edu werner soe berkeley edu john werner writes in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks wrote explain i thought there were types of cones equivalent to rgb you re basically right but i think there are just types one is sensitive to red and green and the other is sensitive to blue and yellow this is why the two most common kinds of color blindness are red green and blue yellow yes i remember that now well in that case the cones are indeed color sensitive contrary to what the original respondent had claimed i m not sure who the original respondent was but to reiterate cones respond to particular portions of the spectrum just as rods respond to certain parts of the visible spectrum bluegreen in our case reddish in certain amphibia just as the hoseshoe crab limulus polyphemus photoreceptors respond to a certain portion of the spectrum etc it is a common misconception to confound wavelength specificity with being color sensitive however the two are not synonymous so in sum and to beat a dead horse when the outputs of a cone are matched for number of absorbed photons irrespective of the absorbed photons wavelength the cone outputs are indistinguishable cones are simply detectors with different spectral sensitivities and are not any more color sensitive than are rods ommatidia or other photoreceptors color vision arises because outputs of receptors which sample different parts of the spectrum cones in this case are processed centrally the handwave is intentional i ve worked and published research on rods and cones for over years so the adherence to the belief that cones can detect color is frustrating but don t take my word for it i m reposting a few excellent articles together with two rather good but oldish color vision texts the texts robert boynton human color vision holt rhiehart and winston leo m hurvich color vision sinauer associates the original articles baylor and hodgkin detection and resolution of visual stimuli by turtle phoreceptors j physiol pp baylor lamb and yau reponses of retinal rods to single photons j physiol pp schnapf et al visual transduction in cones of the monkey macaca fascicularis j physiol pp edwin barkdoll barkdoll lepomis psych upenn edu eb world std com edwin barkdoll eb world std com
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re donating organs in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes in article mar sbcs sunysb edu mhollowa ic sunysb edu michael holloway writes there been anything recent in transplant proceedings or somesuch on xenografts how about liver section transplants from living donors i m sure the pittsburgh group has published the baboon work but i don t know where in chicago they were doing lobe transplants from living donors and i m sure they ve published the case report of the first xenotransplant was published in lancet i can send you a reprint if you are interested there was another paper sort of a tour of the horizon written by starzl and published in the resident s edition of the annals of surgery vol october it s in the surgical resident s newsletter section so you won t find it in the regular issue of the annals i don t have any reprints of that one a paper has been accepted for publication by immunology today though i m not sure when it s coming out describing our experience with the two xenografts done to date as for segmental liver transplants from living related donors i must confess to a total ignorance of that literature we are philosophically opposed to those and i don t keep up with that particular field howard doyle doyle pitt edu
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natural anti cancer aids remedies the biggest reason why the cost of medical care is so extremely high and increasing is that natural methods of treatment and even diagnosis are still being systematically ignored and suppressed by the money grubbing and power mongering medical establishment some examples of very low cost natural anti cancer remedies are listed in the following article natural anti cancer remedies a rd opinion some of these remedies also work against aids disclaimer this list was compiled from unorthodox sources that have shown themselves to be reliable the compiler of this list is not a doctor of any kind but is exercising his first amendment constitutional right of free speech on the subjects of his choice most of these remedies can be found in any grocery store most of the rest of them can be found in any health food store what is important is how they are used and what else is excluded during their use the day fast st day eat as much fresh fruit as you want one kind at a time preferably grapes nd day eat all the vegetables you want at least half raw including garlic also whole kernel corn to help scrape clean the intestinal linings rd day drink all the fresh fruit and vegetable juice you want preferably start with to ounces of prune juice with pulp followed by a gallon of pure not from concentrate apple juice then grape juice stay close to your home bathroom th day eat all the un salted nuts no peanuts and dried fruit you want preferably raisins and almonds almonds contain laetrile th day one gallon of lemonade squeeze the juice from two lemons into a gallon of water preferably distilled and add to tablespoons of locally made honey no sugar drink one glass per hour everyone including healthy people should do this one day every week preceded by a large glass of prune juice with pulp th day same as th day th day same as th day all days eat only the foods listed above for each day along with your usual vitamin and mineral supplements plus as much distilled water as you want the grape diet eat to ounces of fresh grapes every hours am to pm every day for six days eat nothing else during the six days but drink as much distilled water as you want apple cider vinegar mix a teaspoon of pure apple cider vinegar not apple cider flavored vinegar regular vinegar is harmful in a glass of water preferably distilled and drink all of it do this or times per day for weeks then stop for a week repeat if desired do this along with a normal healthy diet of natural foods this remedy is especially effective against those types of cancer that resemble a fungus as well as against other kinds of fungus infections the sea salt soda bath please keep an open mind fill a bathtub with moderately warm water so the level comes up almost to the overflow drain when you get in immerse yourself in it for a minute and then completely dissolve in the bath water pound of sun evaporated sea salt regular salt won t work and pound of fresh baking soda soak in this bath for to minutes while exercising your fingers toes and limbs turning sideways and onto your stomach dunking your head sitting up and laying back down chomping your teeth together etc among other things the sea salt soda bath neutralizes the accumulated effects of x rays etc as described in the book born to be magnetic vol by frances nixon precautions only the one person using each bath should prepare it and drain it for at least minutes after taking the bath stay away from and even out of sight of other people your greatly expanded aura energy field during that time could disrupt other people s fields two hours after the bath eat at least ounces of yogurt containing active yogurt cultures the bath may kill friendly bacteria also better yet take a billion bacteria acidophilus capsule which is also an excellent daily remedy against the effects of a i d s because it kills all kinds of harmful bacteria in the digestive tract taking a big load off the remaining immune system because this external bath can kill in ternal bacteria it may also be a cure for lyme disease do not take this bath within a few hundred miles of a thunder storm within days of a full moon nor during major or minor periods as listed in the solunar tables published bimonthly in field stream magazine because of the measurable disruptive ambient environmental energy fields present at those times do not take this bath more than four times per year miscellaneous natural anti cancer remedies for skin cancer apply stabilized aloe vera jel to the affected skin twice daily and take to tablespoons per day of stabilized aloe vera juice internally for about months d m s o dimethyl sulfoxide causes cancer cells to perform normal cell functions almonds un blanched un roasted contain laetrile to help prevent cancer eat several almonds every day to help cure cancer eat several ounces of almonds per day never take large concentrated doses of laetrile orally it will kill you take it intravenously only cancer cells contain a certain enzyme which converts laetrile into cyanide which then kills the cell this enzyme is also present in the digestive system anti oxidants are free radical scavengers and include vitamin e selenium mcg per day is safe for most people chromium up to mcg per day vitamin a iu per day is safe for most people superoxide dismutase up to units per day vitamin c up to mg per day and bht butylated hydroxy toluene to capsules of bht every night at bedtime will also make one immune against herpes both types suppress herpes symptoms if one already has herpes prevent spreading herpes to other people but will not cure herpes bht might also do these things against a i d s which is really a form of cancer similar to leukemia see the book life extension by durk pearson and sandy shaw hydrogen peroxide dilute twelve drops of hydrogen peroxide in a glass of pure water preferably distilled and drink it do this once or twice per day hours before or after eating or drinking anything else apply hydrogen peroxide directly to skin cancers several times per day use hydrogen peroxide only if you are taking a good daily dose of some of the various anti oxidants described above vitamin mineral supplements are more effective and much less expensive when combined together in mega doses into single tablets made from natural sources cancer cells can not live in a strong maxwell north magnetic field especially if it is pulsating on and off a strong south magnetic field is an aphrodisiac in my opinion all types of ionizing radiation treatments for cancer should be replaced with daily minute doses of pulsating maxwell north magnetic fields properly made and operated radionics psionics machines can both diagnose and cure all forms of cancer as well as most other medical problems some radionics psionics machines can even take cross sectional x ray like photos of cancer tumors etc with out x rays interferon tablets taheebo tea lapacho homeopathy can cure cancer and many other medical problems even drug addiction mg per day of chelated zinc can help prevent or cure prostate trouble this list is not exhaustive the above natural remedies can cure both diagnosed and un diagnosed cancers as well as prevent them and also prevent and cure many other medical problems including heart diseases they are not too simple and inexpensive to work effectively besides acting on a person biologically and chemically these remedies especially the day fast and the grape diet send a strong message to one s subconscious mind programming it to cure the cancer in my opinion if a person finds out that s he has cancer then s he should promptly try at least the first remedies described above in sequence starting with the day fast before resorting to the un natural and expensive mutilations and agonies poison burn and mutilate of orthodox cancer treatment organi ed crime disclaimer this list was compiled from unorthodox sources that have shown themselves to be reliable the compiler of this list is not a doctor of any kind but is exercising his first amendment constitutional right of free speech on the subjects of his choice for more information contact cancer control society n berendo st los angeles ca and or other organiza tions listed in the alternative medicine and holistic medicine portions of the health and medical organizations section section of the latest edition of the encyclope dia of associations reference book in your local public or university library un altered reproduction and dissemination of this important information is encouraged robert e mcelwaine
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re fungus epidemic in ca in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes in article steward cup portal com john joseph deltuvia writes there was a story a few weeks ago on a network news show about some sort of fungus which supposedly attacks the bone structure and is somewhat widespread in california anybody hear anything about this one the only fungus i know of from california is coccidiomycosis i hadn t heard that it attacked bone it attacks lung and if you are especially unlucky the central nervous system nothing new about it it s been around for years they call it valley fever since it is found in the inland valleys not on the coast there is a mini epidemic of coccidiodes that is occurring in i believe the owen s valley bishop area east of the sierras i don t believe there has been any great insight into the increased incidence in that area there is a low level of endemic infection in that region many people with evidence of past exposure to the organism did not have serious disease brian
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xanax please provide info i am currently doing a group research project on the drug xanax i would be exponentially gracious to receive any and all information you could provide me regarding its usage history mechanism of reaction side effects and other pertinent information i don t care how long or how short your response is thanks in advance brent e shelley
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re morbus meniere is there a real remedy in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes in article lindaec jglk fxm netcom com lindae netcom com writes my biggest resentment is the doctor who makes it seem like most people with dizziness can be cured that s definitely not the case in most cases like i said above it is a long tedious process that may or may not end up in a partial cure be sure to say chronic dizziness not just dizziness most patients with acute or subacute dizziness will get better the vertiginous spells of meniere s will also eventually go away however the patient is left with a deaf ear all true and all good points to anyone suffering with vertigo dizziness or any variation thereof my best advice to you as a fellow sufferer is this just keep searching don t let the doctors tell you there s nothing that can be done do your own research and let your this may have helped you but i m not sure it is good general advice the odds that you are going to find some miracle with your own research that is secret or hidden from general knowledge for this or any other disease are slim when good answers to these then spending a great deal of time and energy on the medical problem may divert that energy from more productive things in life a limited amount should be spent to assure yourself that your doctor gave you the correct story but after it becomes clear that you are dealing with a problem for which medicine has no good solution perhaps the best strategy is to join the support group and keep abreast of new findings but not to make a career out of it well making a career out of it is a bit strong i still believe that doing your own research is very very necessary i would not have progressed as much as i have today unless i had spent the many hours in stanford s med library as i have done and years ago it was clear that there was no medicine that would help me so should i have stopped searching thank goodness i didn t now i found that there is indeed medicine that helps me i think that what you ve said is kind of idealistic that you would go to one doctor get a diagnosis maybe get a second opinion and then move on with your life just as an example having seen of the top specialists in this field in the country i have received different diagnoses these are the top names the ones that people come to from all over the country i have had to sort all of this out myself going to a support group and in fact heading that support group was helpful for a while but after a point i found it very unproductive it was much more productive to do library research make phone calls and put together the pieces of the puzzle myself a recent movie lorenzo s oil offers a perfect example of what i m talking about if you haven t seen it you should it s not a put down of doctor s and neither is what i m saying doctors are only human and can only do so much but there are those of us out here who are intelligent and able to sometimes find a missing piece of the puzzle that might have otherwise gone unnoticed i guess i m biased because dizziness is one of those weird things that is still so unknown if i had a broken arm or a weak heart or failing kidneys i might not have the same opinion that s because those things are much more tangible and have much more concise definitions and treatments with dizziness you just have to decide to live with it or decide to live with it while trying to find your way out of it i have chosen the latter linda lindae netcom netcom com gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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faq typing injuries keyboard alternatives monthly posting archive name typing injury faq keyboards version revision date answers to frequently asked questions about keyboard alternatives the alternative keyboard faq copyright by dan wallach dwallach cs berkeley edu the opinions in here are my own unless otherwise mentioned and do not represent the opinions of any organization or vendor current distribution sci med occupational sci med comp human factors news sci comp answers and e mail to c health iubvm ucs indiana edu sorehand vm ucsf edu and cstg l vtvm cc vt edu changes since previously distributed versions are marked with change bars to the right of the text as is this paragraph information in this faq has been pieced together from phone conversations e mail and product literature while i hope it s useful the information in here is neither comprehensive nor error free if you find something wrong or missing please mail me and i ll update my list thanks all phone numbers unless otherwise mentioned are u s a phone numbers all monetary figures unless otherwise mentioned are u s a dollars products covered in this faq using a pc s keyboard on your workstation compatibility issues apple computer inc key tronic flexpro dragon systems the bat datahand comfort keyboard system kinesis ergonomic keyboard maltron the tony ergonomic keysystem the vertical the mikey the wave the minimal motion computer access system twiddler half qwerty microwriter braille n speak octima accukey gif pictures of many of these products are available via anonymous ftp from soda berkeley edu pub typing injury i highly recommend getting the pictures they tell much more than i can fit into this file if you can t ftp send me mail and i ll uuencode and mail them to you they re pretty big using a pc s keyboard on your workstation compatibility issues mini outline spoofing a keyboard over the serial port x terminals next silicon graphics ibm rs other stuff spoofing a keyboard over the serial port if you ve got a proprietary computer which uses its own keyboard sun hp dec etc then you re going to have a hard time finding a vendor to sell you a compatible keyboard if your workstation runs the x window system you re in luck you can buy a cheap used pc hook your expensive keyboard up to it and run a serial cable to your workstation then run a program on the workstation to read the serial port and generate fake x keyboard events the two main programs i ve found to do this are kt and a x a x is a sophisticated program capable of controlling the mouse and even moving among widgets on the screen it requires a server extension xtest dec xtrap or xtestextension to find out if your server can do this run xdpyinfo and see if any of these strings appear in the extensions list if your server doesn t have this you may want to investigate compiling x r patchlevel or later or bugging your vendor kt is a simpler program which should work with unextended x servers another program called xsendevent also exists but i haven t seen it both a x and kt are available via anonymous ftp from soda berkeley edu x terminals also a number of x terminals ncd tektronics to name a few use pc compatible keyboards if you have an x terminal you may be all set try it out with a normal pc keyboard before you go through the trouble of buying an alternative keyboard also some x terminals add extra buttons you may need to keep your original keyboard around for the once in a blue moon that you have to hit the setup key next next had announced that new next machines will use the apple desktop bus meaning any mac keyboard will work then they announced they were cancelling their hardware production if you want any kind of upgrade for an older next do it now silicon graphics silicon graphics has announced that their newer machines indigo and beyond will use standard pc compatible keyboards and mice i don t believe this also applies to the power series machines it s not possible to upgrade an older sgi to use pc keyboards except by upgrading the entire machine contact your sgi sales rep for more details ibm rs ibm rs keyboards are actually similar to normal pc keyboards unfortunately you can t just plug one in you need two things a cable converter to go from the large pc keyboard connector to the smaller ps style din and a new device driver for aix believe it or not ibm wrote this device driver recently i used it and it works however they don t want me to redistribute it i ve been told judy hume is a potential contact if you learn anything new please send me e mail other stuff some vendors here notably health care keyboard co and accucorp support some odd keyboard types and may be responsive to your queries regarding supporting your own weird computer if you can get sufficient documention about how your keyboard works either from the vendor or with a storage oscilloscope you may be in luck contact the companies for more details apple adjustable keyboard apple computer inc sales offices all over the place availability february price supports mac only apple has recently announced their new split design keyboard the keyboard has one section for each hand and the sections rotate backward on a hinge the sections do not tilt upward the keys are arranged in a normal qwerty fashion the main foldable keyboard resembles a normal apple keyboard a separate keypad contains all the extended key functions the keyboard also comes with matching wrist rests which are not directly attachable to the keyboard as soon as soda comes back up i ll have a detailed blurb from tidbits available there flexpro keyboard key tronic phone possible contact denise razzeto sold by many clone vendors and pc shops availability spring price supports pc only highly likely keytronic apparently showed a prototype keyboard at comdex it s another split design one thumb wheel controls the tilt of both the left and right hand sides of the main alphanumeric section the arrow keys and keypad resemble a normal key pc keyboard keytronic makes standard pc keyboards also so this product will probably be sold through their standard distribution channels dragondictate k and numerous other dragon products dragon systems inc nevada street newton ma phone talk typ or fax shipping now price dragondictate k end user system dragonwriter end user developer system various other prices for service contracts site licenses etc compatibility or higher pc only rd party support for mac free software support for x windows is also available your pc with dragon hardware talks to your workstation over a serial cable or network the program is called a x and is available via anonymous ftp soda berkeley edu pub typing injury a x tar z export lcs mit edu contrib a x tar z most current if you want to use your dragon product with x windows you may want to ask for peter cohen an salesman at dragon who knows more about this sort of thing dragon systems sells a number of voice recognition products most if not all of them seem to run on pc s and compatibles including ps s and other microchannel boxes they sell you a hardware board and software which sits in front of a number of popular word processors and spreadsheets each user trains the system to their voice and there are provisions to correct the system when it makes mistakes on the fly multiple people can use it but you have to load a different personality file for each person you still get the use of your normal keyboard too on the dragondictate k you need to pause th sec between words dragon claims typical input speeds of words per minute i don t have specs on the dragonwriter the dragondictate k can recognize words at a time the dragonwriter can recognize you guessed it words at a time dragon s technology is also part of the following products about which i have no other info microsoft windows sound system voice pilot ibm voicetype voice navigator ii by articulate systems for macintosh emstation by lanier voice products emergency medical workstation the bat old phone number current phone number infogrip inc north blvd baton rouge louisiana u s a ward bond main contact david vicknair did the unix software shipping now supports mac ibm pc serial port native keyboard port version coming very soon no other workstations supported but serial support for unix with x windows has been written pc and mac are getting all the real attention from the company a chording system one hand is sufficient to type everything the second hand is for redundancy and increased speed price dual set each one is a complete keyboard by itself single cheaper prices were offered at macworld expo as a show special datahand industrial innovations inc north th street scottsdale arizona u s a mark roggenbuck contact supports pc and mac shipping in beta big backlog could take months price unit unit pods new price each hand has its own pod each of the four main fingers has five switches each forward back left right and down the thumbs have a number of switches despite appearances the key layout resembles qwerty and is reported to be no big deal to adapt to the idea is that your hands never have to move to use the keyboard the whole pod tilts in its base to act as a mouse see also the detailed review written by cliff lasser cal think com available via anonymous ftp from soda berkeley edu comfort keyboard system fax health care keyboard company n w appleton ave menomonee falls wisconsin u s a jeffrey szmanda vice president contact shipping now supports pc and mac planned future support ibm key layout style i believe sun sparc decision data unisys uts silicon graphics others to be supported later the hardware design is relatively easy for the company to re configure price including one system personality module the idea is that one keyboard works with everything you purchase compatibility modules a new cord and possibly new keycaps and then you can move your one keyboard around among different machines it s a three piece folding keyboard the layout resembles the standard key keyboard except sliced into three sections each section is on a custom telescoping universal mount each section independently adjusts to an infinite number of positions allowing each individual to type in a natural posture you can rearrange the three sections too have the keypad in the middle if you want each section is otherwise normal shaped i e you put all three sections flat and you have what looks like a normal key keyboard kinesis ergonomic keyboard fax kinesis corporation pacific highway south seattle washington u s a shirley lunde vp marketing contact shipping now supports pc mac and sun sparc in the works price volume discounts available the includes one foot pedal one set of adhesive wrist pads and a typingtutor program an additional foot pedal and other accessories are extra the layout has a large blank space in the middle even though the keyboard is about the size of a normal pc keyboard slightly smaller each hand has its own set of keys laid out to minimize finger travel thumb buttons handle many major functions enter backspace etc you can remap the keyboard in firmware very nice when software won t allow the reconfig foot pedals are also available and can be mapped to any key on the keyboard shift control whatever maltron united kingdom p c d maltron limited orchard lane east molesey surrey kt obn england pamela and stephen hobday contacts u s distributor jim barrett applied learning corp glen hardie road wayne pa phone supports pc s amstrad bbc b bbc master mac apparently now also available price pounds shipped in the u s a basically converted price shipping the cost is less for bbc computers and they have a number of accessories including carrying cases switch boxes to use both your normal keyboard and the maltron an articulated arm that clamps on to your table and training courses to help you learn to type on your maltron you can also rent a keyboard for pounds week taxes u s price month and then off purchase if you want it shipping now in your choice of colors black or grey maltron has four main products a two handed keyboard two one handed keyboards and a keyboard designed for handicapped people to control with a mouth stick the layout allocates more buttons to the thumbs and is curved to bring keys closer to the fingers a separate keypad is in the middle accukey accucorp inc p o box christiansburg va u s a pete rosenquist sales larry langley president shipping now supports pc mac ibm sun sparc and televideo and cost shipping doesn t use conventional push keys soft rubber keys which rock forward and backward each key has three states make chords for typing keys learning time is estimated to be hours for getting started and maybe two weeks to get used to it currently the thumbs don t do anything although a thumb trackball is in the works the company claims it takes about a week of work to support a new computer they will be happy to adapt their keyboard to your computer if possible twiddler or handykey mt sinai ave mt sinai ny chris george president shipping now price supports pc only mac and x windows in the works the twiddler is both a keyboard and a mouse and it fits in one hand you type via finger chords shift control etc are thumb buttons when in mouse mode tilting the twiddler moves the mouse and mouse buttons are on your fingers the cabling leaves your normal keyboard available also most applications work and windows works fine desqview has trouble geoworks also has trouble mouse works keyboard doesn t braille n speak blazie engineering mill green rd street md u s a information provided by doug martin martin nosc mil the braille n speak uses any of several braille codes for entering information grade i grade ii or computer braille basically letters a j are combinations of dots and letters k t are the same combinations as a j with dot added letters u v x y and z are like a e with dots and added w is unique because louis braille didn t have a w in the french alphabet the tony ergonomic keysystem tony hodges the tony corporation thompson court mountain view ca u s a supports mac pc ibm sun and dec shipping price you commit now and then you re in line to buy the keyboard when it ships if it s cheaper you pay the cheaper price if it s more expensive you still pay the tony should allow separate positioning of every key to allow the keyboard to be personally customized a thumb operated mouse will also be available the vertical contact jeffrey spencer or stephen albert p o box la jolla ca u s a supports no info available probably pc s available summer price the vertical keyboard is split in two halves each pointing straight up the user can adjust the width of the device but not the tilt of each section side view mirrors are installed to allow users to see their fingers on the keys the mikey dr alan grant woodhollow drive chevy chase maryland u s a shipping as of july should be available in one year supports pc mac maybe price estimated the keyboard is at a fixed angle and incorporates a built in mouse operated by the thumbs function keys are arranged in a circle at the keyboard s left the wave was fax iocomm international technology yukon avenue hawthorne california u s a robin hunter contact in sales cost for a set of cables supports pc only shipping now iocomm also manufactures ordinary key keyboard pc at and key keyboard pc xt so make sure you get the right one the one piece keyboard has a built in wrist rest it looks exactly like a normal key pc keyboard with two inches of built in wrist rest the key switch feel is reported to be greatly improved the minimal motion computer access system fax equal access computer technology dr michael weinreigh oneida rd acton ma u s a price infogrip compatible a few hundred dollars a one handed bat for their own system dos software a few hundred dollars shipping these are custom made so an occupational therapist would make moulds do whatever to make it for you you can buy one now supports pc only although the infogrip compatible version might work with a mac in a one handed version there is exactly one button per finger in a two handed version you get four buttons per finger and the thumbs don t do anything you can also get one handed versions with three thumb buttons compatible with the infogrip bat basically get it any way you want they also have a software tutorial to help you learn the chording works on a pc under dos not windows planning on macintosh and pc windows support no work has been done on a unix version yet half qwerty canada the matias corporation thistledown boulevard rexdale ontario canada m v k e mail ematias dgp toronto edu supports mac and pc but not windows demo for anonymous ftp explorer dgp toronto edu pub half qwerty price higher in canada quantity discounts available shipping now this thing is purely software no hardware at all the software will mirror the keyboard when you hold down the space bar allowing you type one handed octima israel fax ergoplic keyboards ltd p o box kiryat ono israel info from mandy jaffe katz rxhfun haifauvm bitnet a one handed keyboard microwriter agenda u k fax microwriter systems plc m s a house albany court albany park frimley surrey gu xa united kingdom info from carroll morgan carroll morgan prg oxford ac uk the agenda is a personal desktop assistant pda style machine you can carry it along with you it has chording input you can also hook it up to your pc or even program it it costs just under pounds with k memory thanks go to chris bekins as ccb forsythe stanford edu for providing the basis for this information thanks to the numerous contributors doug martin martin nosc mil carroll morgan carroll morgan prg oxford ac uk mandy jaffe katz rxhfun haifauvm bitnet wes hunter wesley hunter atlantaga ncr com paul schwartz pschwrtz cs washington edu h j woltring woltring nici kun nl dan sorenson viking iastate edu chris vanharen vanharen mit edu ravi pandya ravi xanadu com leonard h tower jr tower ai mit edu dan jacobson dan jacobson att com jim cheetham jim oasis icl co uk cliff lasser cal think com richard donkin richardd hoskyns co uk paul rubin phr napa telebit com david erb erb fullfeed com bob scheifler rws expo lcs mit edu chris grant chris grant um cc umich edu scott mandell sem postoffice mail cornell edu and everybody else who i ve probably managed to forget the opinions in here are my own unless otherwise mentioned and do not represent the opinions of any organization or vendor dan wallach one of the most attractive features of a connection dwallach cs berkeley edu machine is the array of blinking lights on the faces office of its cabinet cm paris ref manual v p
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faq typing injuries software monitoring tools monthly posting archive name typing injury faq software version th december this faq is actually maintained by richard donkin richardd hoskyns co uk i post it along with the other faq stuff if you have questions you want to send mail to richard not me dan software tools to help with rsi this file describes tools primarily software to help prevent or manage rsi this version now includes information on such diverse tools as calendar programs and digital watches please let me know if you know any other tools or if you have information or opinions on these ones and i will update this faq i am especially interested in getting reviews of these products from people who have evaluated them or are using them richard donkin internet mail richardd hoskyns co uk tel direct fax changes in this version added information on stressfree another typing management tool for windows typing management tools these aim to help you manage your keyboard use by warning you to take a break every so often the better ones also include advice on exercises posture and workstation setup some use sound hardware to warn of a break others use beeps or screen messages often rsi appears only after many years of typing and the pain has a delayed action in the short term too frequently you can be typing all day with little problem and the pain gets worse in the evening these tools act as an early warning system by listening to their warnings and taking breaks with exercises you don t have to wait for your body to give you a more serious and painful warning that is getting rsi tool at your service commercial software available from bright star tel platforms mac system windows description provides calendar keyboard watch email watch and system info warns when to take a break configurable has a few recommendations on posture and exercises sound oriented will probably work best with sound card pc or with microphone mac should be possible to record your own messages to warn of break tool audioport sound card and software available from media vision tel platforms pc description a sound card to plug into your pc parallel port includes at your service tool computer health break commercial software available from escape ergonomics inc w el camino real suite mailstop sunnyvale ca tel platforms dos description aimed at preventing rsi this program warns you to take breaks after a configurable interval based on clock time or after a set number of keystrokes whichever is earlier it gives you exercises to do each time randomly selected from a set of exercises are apparently tuned to the type of work you do data entry word processing information processing exercises are illustrated and include quite a lot of text on how to do the exercise and on what exactly the exercise does chb includes hypertext information on rsi that you can use to learn more about rsi and how to prevent it other information on non rsi topics can be plugged into this hypertext viewer a full glossary of medical terms and jargon is included chb can be run in a dos box under windows but does not then warn you when to take a break it does not therefore appear useful when used with windows cost quantity discounts site licenses comments the keystroke counting approach looks good it seems better to measure the activity that is causing you problems than to measure clock time or even typing time the marketing stuff is very good and includes some summaries of research papers as well as lots of arguments you can use to get your company to pay up for rsi management tools tool eyercise commercial software available from ran enterprises one woodland park dr haverhill ma us tel us only platforms windows os pm not dos description aimed at preventing rsi and eye strain this program warns you to take breaks after a configurable interval or at fixed times optionally displays descriptions and pictures of exercises pictures are animated and program beeps you to help you do exercises at the correct rate includes stretches and visual training exercises can configure which are included and how many repetitions you do breaks last from to minutes also includes online help on workplace ergonomics quote from their literature eyercise is a windows program that breaks up your day with periodic sets of stretches and visual training exercises the stretches work all parts of your body relieving tension and helping to prevent repetitive strain injury the visual training exercises will improve your peripheral vision and help to relieve eye strain together these help you to become more relaxed and productive the package includes the book computers visual stress by edward c godnig o d and john s hacunda which describes the ergonomic setup for a computer workstation and provides procedures and exercises to promote healthy and efficient computer use cost including shipping and handling quantity discounts for resellers free demo outside us comments i have a copy of this and it works as advertised i would say it is better for rsi prevention than rsi management because it does not allow breaks at periods less than minutes also it interrupts you based on clock time rather than typing time which is not so helpful unless you use the keyboard all day worked ok on windows though it did occasionally crash with a uae not sure why also refused to work with the space bar on one pc and has one window without window controls very usable though and does not require any sound hardware tool lifeguard commercial software available from visionary software p o box portland or us tel platforms mac dos windows version underway description aimed at preventing rsi warns you to take a break with dialog box and sound includes a list of exercises to do during breaks and information on configuring your workstation in an ergonomic manner price quantity discounts and site licenses the dos product is bought in from another company apparently not sure how equivalent this is to the mac version the mac version got a good review in desktop publisher magazine feb good marketing stuff with useful page summaries of rsi problems and solutions with references tool stressfree commercial software free usable demo available from lifetime software p o box houston texas us tel us only fax mail compuserve com demo working program but reduced functions available from compuserve windows advanced forum new uploads section or health and fitness forum issues at work section anon ftp ftp cica indiana edu and mirroring sites platforms windows mac and dos versions underway description aimed at preventing rsi this program warns you to take breaks after a configurable interval or at fixed times displays descriptions and pictures of exercises pictures are animated and program paces you to help you do exercises at the correct rate quite a few exercises can configure which ones are included to some extent online help version is out soon mac and dos versions will be based on this cost if support via compuserve or internet otherwise site license for or more copies is each note prices may have gone up for v comments i have had a play with this and it works ok its user interface design is much better in though still a bit unusual expensive tool around and it does the job it is also the only tool with a redistributable demo so if you do get the demo post it on your local bulletin boards ftp servers and bitnet servers does not include general info on rsi and ergonomics but it does have the ability to step backward in the exercise sequence which is good for repeating the most helpful exercises tool typewatch freeware version october available from email to richardd hoskyns co uk anonymous ftp soda berkeley edu pub typing injury typewatch shar platforms unix tested on sco sunos mach character and x window mode description this is a shell script that runs in the background and warns you to stop typing based on how long you have been continuously typing it does not provide exercises but it does check that you really do take a break and tells you when you can start typing again typewatch now tells you how many minutes you have been typing today each time it warns you which is useful so you know how much you really type it also logs information to a file that you can analyse or simply print out the warning message appears on your screen in character mode in a pop up window for x windows or as a zephyr message for those with athena stuff tim freeman tsf cs cmu edu has put in a lot of bug fixes extra features and support for x zephyr and mach not formally supported but email richardd hoskyns co uk for sco sunos character mode or tsf cs cmu edu for mach x window mode zephyr if you have problems or want to give feedback tool various calendar batch queue programs available from various sources platforms various description any calendar reminder program that warns you of an upcoming appointment can be turned into an ad hoc rsi management tool or any batch queue submission program that lets you submit a program to run at a specific time to display a message to the screen using windows as an example create a calendar file and include this filename in your win ini s load line so you get it on every startup of windows suppose you want to have breaks every minutes starting from am press f special time to enter an appointment enter hit enter and type some text in saying what the break is for then press f to set an alarm on this entry and repeat for the next appointment by using windows recorder you can record the keystrokes that set up breaks throughout a day in a rec file put this file on your run line as above and you will then with a single keypress be able to set up your daily appointments with rsi exercises the above method should be adaptable to most calendar programs an example using batch jobs would be to submit a simple job that runs at am and warns you to take a break this will depend a lot on your operating system while these approaches are not ideal they are a good way of forcing yourself to take a break if you can t get hold of a suitable rsi management tool if you are techie enough you might want to write a version of typewatch see above for your operating system using batch jobs or whatever fits best tool digital watches with count down timers available from various sources e g casio bp description many digital watches have timers that count down from a settable number of minutes they usually reset easily to that number either manually or automatically while these are a very basic tool they are very useful if you are writing reading driving or doing anything away from a computer which can still cause or aggravate rsi the great advantage is that they remind you to break from whatever you are doing comments my own experience was that cutting down a lot on my typing led to my writing a lot more and still reading as much as ever which actually aggravated the rsi in my right arm though the left arm improved getting a count down timer watch has been very useful on some occasions where i write a lot in a day i have tried an old fashioned hour glass type egg timer but these are not much good because they do not give an audible warning of the end of the time period keyboard remapping tools these enable you to change your keyboard mapping so you can type one handedly or with a different two handed layout one handed typing tools may help but be very careful about how you use them if you keep the same overall typing workload you are simply doubling your hand use for the hand that you use for typing and may therefore make matters worse tool hsh public domain available from anonymous ftp soda berkeley edu pub typing injury hsh shar platforms unix don t know which ones description allows one handed typing and other general keyboard remappings only works through tty s so you can use it with a terminal or an xterm but not most x programs tool dvorak keyboard tools various available from anonymous ftp soda berkeley edu pub typing injury xdvorak c also built into windows x description the dvorak keyboard apparently uses a more rational layout that involves more balanced hand use it may help prevent rsi a bit but you can also use it if you have rsi since it will slow down your typing a lot dan wallach one of the most attractive features of a connection dwallach cs berkeley edu machine is the array of blinking lights on the faces office of its cabinet cm paris ref manual v p
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article lsj gninnl c saltillo cs utexas edu turpin cs utexas edu russell turpin writes i wrote or to use a phrasing that i think is more accurate science is the investigation of phenomena that avoids methods and reasoning that are known to be erroneous from past foul ups in article c iu hbn bunyip cc uq oz au bd psych psy uq oz au writes i can agree with this if you are talking about the less fundamental aspects of scientific method in fact i don t see the alternative as i don t think that the fundamentals are capable of experimental investigation in saying this i am agreeing with the work of people like kuhn feyerabend and lakatos while methodology cannot be subject to the same kind of experimental investigation as that to which it is applied it can be critically appraised methodologies can be compared to each other sometimes by the conflicting results they produce this kind of critical appraisal and comparison together with the inappropriateness of existing methodologies for new fields of study is what drives the evolution of methodologies and how we think about them as usual you are missing the whole point russell because you are not willing to even consider questionning your basic article of faith which is that science is merely a matter of methodology and that the highest purpose of science is to avoid making mistakes this is like saying that the most important aspect of business management is accurate bookkeeping if science were no more than methodology and not making mistakes it would be a poor thing indeed what was the methodology of darwin what was the methodology of einstein what was for that matter the methodology of jenner and pasteur in an earlier article russell turpin writes none of the foregoing should be read as meaning that we should open the door to practitioners of quackery and psuedo science modern advocates of homeopathy chiropracty and traditional chinese medicine receive little respect because for the most part they use methods and reasoning that the kind of research lee lady recommends has shown to be terribly faulty this does not imply that all their treatments are ineffective it does imply that those who rely on faulty methodology and reasoning are incapable of discovering which treatments are effective and which are not first of all i think you are arguing against a straw man because i don t think that anyone here is arguing that quackery pseudo science homeopathy chiropracty and traditional chinese medicine should be accepted as science i in particular think the basic ideas of homeopathy and chiropracty seem extremely flaky what some of us do believe however is that some of these things including some of the flaky ideas are deserving of serious scientific attention if in fact it were true as you have stated above that those who do not use the currently fashionable methodology can have no idea what is effective and what is not then science today would not exist for all of current science is based on the past work of scientists whose methodology by current standards was seriously flawed it is certainly true that as methodology improves we need to re examine those results derived in the past using less perfect methodologies it is also true that the results obtained by people today who still rely on those early methodologies needs to be re examined in a more rigorous fashion by those qualified to do so credibly but to say that nobody who fails to do elaborate double blind studies is capable of knowing their ass from a hole in the ground and to say that no ideas that come from outside the scientific establishment could possibly be worthy of serious investigation this truly marks one s attitude as doctrinaire cultist this attitude is not compatible with a belief in reason in the arguments between behaviorists and cognitivists psychology seems less like a science than a collection of competing religious sects lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lady uhunix bitnet
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faq typing injuries changes since last month monthly posting archive name typing injury faq changes version revision date this file details changes to the soda berkeley edu archive and summarizes what s new in the various faq frequently asked questions documents this will be posted monthly along with the full faq to the various net groups the various mailing lists will either receive the full faq every month or every third month but will always get this file once per month phew changes to the typing injuries faq and soda berkeley edu archive this month a few new files on the soda berkeley edu archive the tidbits caring for your wrists document rsi network advice about adverse mechanical tension more details about the new apple keyboard more info about carpal tunnel syndrome carpal explained more general info about rsi rsi details rsi physical marketing info on the vertical macweek article the bat new details on hooking a normal pc keyboard to an rs updated pricing info on the datahand and comfort half qwerty now available for anonymous ftp on explorer dgp toronto edu new gif picutures the apple adjustable keyboard the key tronic flexpro another picture of the kinesis the vertical the tony if you d like to receive a copy of the faq and you didn t find it in the same place you found this document you can either send e mail to dwallach cs berkeley edu or you can anonymous ftp to soda berkeley edu and look in the pub typing injury directory enjoy dan wallach one of the most attractive features of a connection dwallach cs berkeley edu machine is the array of blinking lights on the faces office of its cabinet cm paris ref manual v p
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faq typing injuries general info monthly posting archive name typing injury faq general version revision date answers to frequently asked questions about typing injuries the typing injury faq sources of information for people with typing injuries repetitive stress injuries carpal tunnel syndrome etc copyright by dan wallach dwallach cs berkeley edu many faqs including this one are available on the archive site pit manager mit edu alias rtfm mit edu in the directory pub usenet news answers the name under which a faq is archived appears in the archive name line at the top of the article this faq is archived as typing injury faq general z there s a mail server also just e mail mail server pit manager mit edu with the word help on a line by itself in the body the opinions in here are my own unless otherwise mentioned and do not represent the opinions of any organization or vendor i m not a medical doctor so my advice should be taken with many grains of salt current distribution sci med occupational sci med comp human factors news sci comp answers and e mail to c health iubvm ucs indiana edu sorehand vm ucsf edu and cstg l vtvm cc vt edu changes since previously distributed versions are marked with change bars to the right of the text as is this paragraph table of contents mailing lists newsgroups etc the soda berkeley edu archive general info on injuries typing posture ergonomics prevention treatment requests for more info references mailing lists newsgroups etc usenet news comp human factors occasionally has discussion about alternative input devices comp risks has an occasional posting relevant to injuries via computers sci med and misc handicap also tend to have relevant traffic there s a brand new newsgroup sci med occupational chartered specifically to discuss these things this would be the recommended place to post mailing lists the rsi network available both on paper and via e mail this publication covers issues relevant to those with repetitive stress injuries for a sample issue and subscription information send a stamped self addressed business envelope to caroline rose paradise way palo alto ca e mail to crose applelink apple com donation requested all rsi network newsletters are available via anonymous ftp from soda berkeley edu see below for details c health and sorehand are both ibm listserv things for those familiar with listserv here s the quick info c health subscribe to listserv iubvm ucs indiana edu post to c health iubvm ucs indiana edu sorehand subscribe to listserv vm ucsf edu post to sorehand vm ucsf edu quick tutorial on subscribing to a listserv mail listserv vm ucsf edu subject total listserv mania subscribe sorehand j random hacker info that s all there is to it you ll get bunches of mail back from the listserv including a list of other possible commands you can mail cool huh what ll those bitnet people think of next the soda berkeley edu archive i ve started an archive site for info related to typing injuries just anonymous ftp to soda berkeley edu pub typing injury currently you ll find informative files typing injury faq general information about typing injuries keyboards products to replace your keyboard software software to watch your keyboard usage changes changes since last month s edition new keyboard commentary dan s opinions on the keyboard replacements amt advice about adverse mechanical tension caringforwrists sit hqx pagemaker document about your wrists caringforwrists ps postscript converted version of above carpal info info on carpal tunnel syndrome carpal explained very detailed information about cts carpal surgery jama article on cts surgery carpal tidbits tidbits article on cts tendonitis info info on tendonitis rsi biblio bibliography of rsi related publications rsi network archive of the rsi network newsletter currently containing issues through rsi details long detailed information about rsi rsi physical study showing rsi isn t just psychological various product literature apple press press release on the apple adjustable keyboard apple tidbits extensive info about apple s adjustable keybd bat info macweek review on the bat comfort marketing info on the comfort keyboard datahand review detailed opinions of the datahand datahand review follow up to above datahand desc description of the datahand s appearance kinesis review one user s personal opinions maltron marketing info on various maltron products maltron review one user s personal opinions vertical info marketing info on the vertical new programs with the exception of accpak exe everything here is distributed as source to be compiled with a unix system some programs take advantage of the x window system also hsh shar a program for one handed usage of normal keyboards typewatch shar tells you when to take a break xdvorak c turns your qwerty keyboard into dvorak xidle shar keeps track of how long you ve been typing rest reminder sh yet another idle watcher kt tar generates fake x keyboard events from the serial port use a pc keyboard on anything new improved version accpak exe a serial port keyboard spoofer for ms windows note a x tar and rk tar are both from export lcs mit edu contrib so they may have a more current version than soda a x tar a more sophisticated x keyboard mouse spoofing program supports dragondictate note a new version is now available rk tar the reactive keyboard predicts what you ll type next saves typing pictures in the gifs subdirectory howtosit gif picture of good sitting posture the caringforwrists document is better for this accukey gif fuzzy picture accukey gif fuzzy picture with somebody using it apple gif the apple adjustable keyboard bat gif the infogrip bat comfort gif the health care comfort keyboard datahand gif fuzzy picture datahand gif key layout schematic datahand gif a much better picture of the datahand flexpro gif the key tronic flexpro keyboard kinesis gif the kinesis ergonomic keyboard kinesis gif multiple views of the kinesis maltron gif several pictures of maltron products mikey gif the mikey mikey gif schematic picture of the mikey tony gif the tony ergonomic keysystem twiddler gif front view twiddler gif side view vertical gif the vertical keyboard wave gif the iocomm wave keyboard many files are compressed have a z ending if you can t uncompress a file locally soda will do it just ask for the file without the z extension if you re unable to ftp to soda send me e mail and we ll see what we can arrange general info on injuries first and foremost of importance if you experience pain at all then you absolutely need to go see a doctor as soon as you possibly can the difference of a day or two can mean the difference between a short recovery and a long drawn out ordeal go see a doctor now your garden variety doctor may not necessarily be familiar with this sort of injury generally any hospital with an occupational therapy clinic will offer specialists in these kinds of problems don t wait though go see a doctor the remainder of this information is paraphrased without permission from a wonderful report by new zealand s department of labour occupational safety and health service occupational overuse syndrome treatment and rehabilitation a practitioner s guide first a glossary or fancy names for how you shouldn t have your hands note you re likely to hear these terms from doctors and keyboard vendors rsi repetitive strain injury a general term for many kinds of injuries oos occupational overuse syndrome synonym for rsi ctd cumulative trauma disorder another synonym for rsi wruld work related upper limb disorders yet another synonym for rsi cts carpal tunnel syndrome see below hyperextension marked bending at a joint pronation turning the palm down wrist extension bending the wrist up supination turning the palm up wrist flexion bending the wrist down pinch grip the grip used for a pencil ulnar deviation bending the wrist towards the little finger power grip the grip used for a hammer radial deviation bending the wrist toward the thumb abduction moving away from the body overspanning opening the fingers out wide now then problems come in two main types local conditions and diffuse conditions local problems are what you d expect specific muscles tendons tendon sheaths nerves etc being inflamed or otherwise hurt diffuse conditions often mistaken for local problems can involve muscle discomfort pain burning and or tingling with identifiable areas of tenderness in muscles although they re not necessarily the problem why does occupational overuse syndrome occur here s the theory normally your muscles and tendons get blood through capillaries which pass among the muscle fibers when you tense a muscle you restrict the blood flow by the time you re exerting of your full power you re completely restricting your blood flow without fresh blood your muscles use stored energy until they run out then they switch to anaerobic without oxygen metabolism which generates nasty by products like lactic acid which cause pain once one muscle hurts all its neighbors tense up perhaps to relieve the load this makes sense for your normal sort of injury but it only makes things worse with repetitive motion more tension means less blood flow and the cycle continues another by product of the lack of blood flow is tingling and numbness from your nerves they need blood too anyway when you re typing too much you re never really giving a change for the blood to get back where it belongs because your muscles never relax enough to let the blood through stress poor posture and poor ergonomics only make things worse specific injuries you may have heard of note most injuries come in two flavors acute and chronic acute injuries are severely painful and noticable chronic conditions have less pronounced symptoms but are every bit as real tenosynovitis an inflamation of the tendon sheath chronic tenosynovitis occurs when the repetitive activity is mild or intermittent not enough to cause acute inflamation but enough to exceed the tendon sheath s ability to lubricate the tendon as a result the tendon sheath thickens gets inflamed and you ve got your problem tendonitis an inflammation of a tendon repeated tensing of a tendon can cause inflamation eventually the fibers of the tendon start separating and can even break leaving behind debris which induces more friction more swelling and more pain sub acute tendonitis is more common which entails a dull ache over the wrist and forearm some tenderness and it gets worse with repetitive activity carpal tunnel syndrome the nerves that run through your wrist into your fingers get trapped by the inflamed muscles around them symptoms include feeling pins and needles tingling numbness and even loss of sensation cts is often confused for a diffuse condition adverse mechanical tension also known as neural tension this is where the nerves running down to your arm have become contracted and possibly compressed as a result of muscle spasms in the shoulders and elsewhere amt can often misdiagnosed as or associated with one of the other oos disorders it is largely reversible and can be treated with physiotherapy brachial plexus stretches and trigger point therapy others for just about every part of your body there s a fancy name for a way to injure it by now you should be getting an idea of how oos conditions occur and why just be careful many inexperienced doctors misdiagnose problems as carpal tunnel syndrome when in reality you may have a completely different problem always get a second opinion before somebody does something drastic to you like surgery typing posture ergonomics prevention treatment the most important element of both prevention and recovery is to reduce tension in the muscles and tendons this requires learning how to relax if you re under a load of stress this is doubly important tune out the world and breath deep and regular relaxing should become a guiding principle in your work every three minutes take a three second break every three minutes take a three second break really do it every three minutes it s also helpful to work in comfortable surroundings calm down and relax if you can t sleep you really need to focus on this rest sleep and relaxation are really a big deal there are all kinds of other treatments of course drugs can reduce inflamation and pain custom molded splints can forcefully prevent bad posture surgery can fix some problems exercise can help strengthen your muscles regular stretching can help prevent injury good posture and a good ergonomic workspace promote reduced tension ice or hot cold contrast baths also reduce swelling only your doctor can say what s best for you posture here are some basic guidelines i so liked the way this was written in the new zealand book that i m lifting it almost verbatim from appendix dwallach let your shoulders relax let your elbows swing free keep your wrists straight pull your chin in to look down don t flop your head forward keep the hollow in the base of your spine try leaning back in the chair don t slouch or slump forward alter your posture from time to time every minutes get up and bend your spine backward set the seat height first your feet should be flat on the floor there should be no undue pressure on the underside of your thighs near the knees and your thighs should not slope too much now draw yourself up to your desk and see that its height is comfortable to work at if you are short this may be impossible the beest remedy is to raise the seat height and prevent your legs from dangling by using a footrest now adjust the backrest height so that your buttocks fit into the space between the backrest and the seat pan the backrest should support you in the hollow of your back so adjust its tilt to give firm support in this area if you operate a keyboard you will be able to spend more time leaning back so experiment with a chair with a taller backrest if available now i diverge a little from the text a good chair makes a big difference if you don t like your chair go find a better one you really want adjustments for height back angle back height and maybe even seat tilt most arm rests seem to get in the way although some more expensive chairs have height adjustable arm rests which you can also rotate out of the way you should find a good store and play with all these chairs pick one that s right for you in the san francisco bay area i highly recommend just chairs the name says it all keyboard drawers wrist pads and keyboard replacements there is a fair amount of controvery on how to get this right for some people wrist pads seem to work wonders however with good posture you shouldn t be resting your wrists on anything you would prefer your keyboard to be right there if you drop your arms at your side and then lift your hands up at the elbow you want your keyboard under your hands when your elbows are at about degrees of course you want to avoid pronation wrist extension and ulnar deviation at all costs wrist pads may or may not help at this you should get somebody else to come and look at how you work how you sit how you type and how you relax it s often easier for somebody else to notice your hunched shoulders or deviated hands some argue that the normal flat keyboard is antiquated and poorly designed a number of replacements are available on the market today check out the accompanying typing injury faq keyboards for much detail requests for more info clearly the above information is incomplete the typing injury archive is incomplete there s always more information out there if you d like to submit something please send me mail and i ll gladly throw it in if you d like to maintain a list of products or vendors that would be wonderful i d love somebody to make a list of chair desk vendors i d love somebody to make a list of doctors i d love somebody to edit the above sections looking for places where i ve obviously goofed references i completely rewrote the information section here using a wonderful guide produced in new zealand by their occupational safety health service a service of their department of labour special thanks to the authors wigley turner blake darby mcinnes and harding semi bibliographic reference occupational overuse syndrome treatment and rehabilitation a practitioner s guide published by the occupational safety and health service department of labour wellington new zealand first edition june isbn price new zealand s of course thanks to richard donkin richardd hoskyns co uk for reviewing this posting dan wallach one of the most attractive features of a connection dwallach cs berkeley edu machine is the array of blinking lights on the faces office of its cabinet cm paris ref manual v p
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re science and methodology in article apr sbcs sunysb edu mhollowa ic sunysb edu michael holloway writes in article c jv ggb news hawaii edu lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lee lady writes i would also like to point out that most of the arguments about science in sci med sci psychology etc are not about cases where people are rejecting scientific argument evidence proof they are about cases where no adequate scientific research has been done in some cases there is quite a bit of evidence but it isn t in a format to fit doctrinaire conceptions of what science is here it is again this indicates confusion between proof and the process of doing science you are making precisely one of the points i wanted to make i fully agree with you that there is a big distinction between the process of science and the end result as an end result of science one wants to get results that are objectively verifiable but there is nothing objective about the process of science if good empirical research were done and showed that there is some merit to homeopathic remedies this would certainly be valuable information but it would still not mean that homeopathy qualifies as a science this is where you and i disagree with turpin in order to have science one must have a theoretical structure that makes sense not a mere collection of empirically validated random hypotheses experiment and empirical studies are an important part of science but they are merely the culmination of scientific research the most important part of true scientific methodology is scientific thinking without this one does not have any hypotheses worth testing no hypotheses do not just leap out at you after you look at enough data nor do they simply come to you in a flash one day while you re shaving or looking out the window at least not unless you ve done a lot of really good thinking beforehand the difference between a nobel prize level scientist and a mediocre scientist does not lie in the quality of their empirical methodology it depends on the quality of their thinking it really bothers me that so many graduate students seem to believe that they are doing science merely because they are conducting empirical studies and it bothers me even more that there are many fields such as certain parts of psychology where there seems to be no thinking at all but mere studies testing ad hoc hypotheses and i m especially offended by russell turpin s repeated assertion that science amounts to nothing more than avoiding mistakes simply avoiding mistakes doesn t get you anywhere in the arguments between behaviorists and cognitivists psychology seems less like a science than a collection of competing religious sects lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lady uhunix bitnet
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re natural anti cancer aids remedies in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes in article apr cnsvax uwec edu mcelwre cnsvax uwec edu writes the biggest reason why the cost of medical care is so extremely high and increasing is that natural methods of treatment and even diagnosis are still being systematically ignored and suppressed by the money grubbing and power mongering medical establishment that s not the half of it did you realize that all medical doctors have now been replaced by aliens yup by the way what planet are you from and once you got here did you encounter those prejudices against foreign medical graduates david wright hitachi computer products america inc waltham ma wright hicomb hi com these are my opinions not necessarily hitachi s though they are the opinions of all right thinking people
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article qi h innr o roundup crhc uiuc edu mary uicsl csl uiuc edu mary e allison writes two different tuesdays two weeks apart we used the same day of the week just for consistancies sake we ordered food from the local chinese take out same exact food except one of the days we had them hold the msg i did not know which time the food was ordered without the msg but one time i had the reaction and one time i did not now you can try to tell me that it wasn t scientific enough and that i have not proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that i have a reaction to msg but it was proof enough for me and i ll have you know that i do not wish to get sick from eating food thank you very much if you could not tell which one had msg why restaurants bother to use it at all if you can taste the difference psychological reaction might play a role the fact is msg is part of natural substance everyone i mean everyone consumes certain amount of msg every day through regular diet without the synthesized msg additive chinese and many other asians japanese koreans etc have used msg as flavor enhancer for two thousand years do you believe that they knew how to make msg from chemical processes not they just extracted it from natural food such sea food and meat broth baring msg is just like baring sugar which many people react to jason chen
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re morbus meniere is there a real remedy in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes a recent movie lorenzo s oil offers a perfect example of what i m talking about if you haven t seen it you should it s not i saw it it is almost a unique case in history first ald is a rare but fatal disease their accomplishment was significant of course it was overplayed in the movie for dramatic effect the oil is not curative and doesn t even prevent progression only slows it there s a pretty good article in the the march new scientist titled pouring cold water on lorenzo s oil the article states that research has shown that the oil has no discernable effect on the progression of the disease in patients in which demyelination has begun in patients with amn a less acute form of the same disease there is some improvement seen in the ability of nerve fibres to conduct impulses in ald patients who have not yet begun demyelination the jury is still out dale cook
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podiatry school info hello i am planning on attending podiatry school next year i have narrowed my choices to the pennsylvania college of podiatric medicine in philadelphia or the california college of podiatric medicine in san francisco if anyone has any information or oppinions about these two schools please tell me i am having a hard time deciding which one to attend and must make a decision very soon thank you larry live from new york it s saturday night tonight s special guest lawrence silverberg from the state university of new york albany aka ls gemini albany edu
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food related seizures i am posting to this group in hopes of finding someone out there in network newsland who has heard of something similar to what i am going to describe here i have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced a seizure on november at am after eating kellog s frosted flakes she is perfectly healthy had never experienced anything like this before and there is no history of seizures in either side of the family all the tests eeg mri ekg came out negative so the decision was made to do nothing and just wait to see if it happened again well we were going along fine and the other morning april she had a bowl of another kellog s frosted kind of cereal fruit loops i am embarrassed to admit that i even bought that junk but every once in a while so i pour it in her bowl and think oh oh this is the same kind of junk she was eating when she had that seizure ten minutes later she had a full blown seizures this was her first exposure to a sugar coated cereal since the last seizure when i mentioned what she ate the first time as a possible reason for the seizure the neurologist basically negated that as an idea now after this second episode so similar in nature to the first even he is scratching his head once again her eeg looks normal which i understand can happen even when a person has a seizure once again we are waiting i have been thinking that it would be good to get to as large a group as possible to see if anyone has any experience with this kind of thing i know that members of the medical community are sometimes loathe to admit the importance that diet and foods play in our general health and well being anyway as you can guess i am worried sick about this and would appreciate any ideas anyone out there has sorry to be so wordy but i wanted to really get across what is going on here thanks sharon paulson s s paulson larc nasa gov nasa langley research center bldg d mailstop work hampton virginia home
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr walter bellcore com jchen ctt bellcore com writes chinese and many other asians japanese koreans etc have used msg as flavor enhancer for two thousand years do you believe that they knew how to make msg from chemical processes not they just extracted it from natural food such sea food and meat broth and to add further fuel to the flame war i read about years ago that the natural msg extracted from the sources you mention above does not cause the reported aftereffects it s only that nasty artificial msg extracted from coal tar or whatever that causes chinese restaurant syndrome i find this pretty hard to believe has anyone else heard it andrew
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article apr ecsvax uncecs edu ccreegan ecsvax uncecs edu charles l creegan writes what about kekule s infamous derivation of the idea of benzene rings from a daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails is this specific enough to count certainly it turns up repeatedly in basic phil of sci texts as an example of the inventive component of hypothesizing and has been rather thoroughly demolished as myth by robert scott root bernstein see his book discovering ring structures for benzene had been proposed before kekule after him and at the same time as him the current models do not resemble kekule s many of the predecessors of kekule s structure resemble the modern model more i don t think extra scientific is a very useful phrase in a discussion of the boundaries of science except as a proposed definiens extra rational is a better phrase in fact there are quite a number of well known cases of extra rational considerations driving science in a useful direction for example pasteur discovered that racemic acid was a mixture of enantiomers the origin of stereochemistry partly because he liked a friend s crank theory of chemical action the friend was wrong but pasteur s discovery stood a prior investigator mitscherlich looking at the same phenomenon had missed a crucial detail presumably because he lacked pasteur s motivation to find something that distinguished racemic acid from tartaric now we say d tartaric acid again pasteur discovered the differential fermentation of enantiomers tartaric acid again not because of some rational conviction but because he was trying to produce yeast that lived on l tartaric acid his notebooks contained fantasies of becoming the newton of mirror image life which he never admitted publically perhaps the best example is the discovery that dna carries genes avery started this work because of one of his students and ardent anglophile and francophobe canadian defended fred griffiths discoveries in mice most of griffiths critics were french which decided the issue for the student avery told him to replicate griffiths work in vitro which the student eventually did whereupon avery was convinced and started the research program which in or so years produced the famous discovery avery macleod and mccarty jem mark a fulk university of rochester computer science department fulk cs rochester edu
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re update help was what is this is it lyme s in article apr lamont ldgo columbia edu brenner ldgo columbia edu carl brenner writes see the ulterior motive here it is easy for me to see it the those physicians who call everything lyme and treat everything there is a lot of money involved you keep bringing this up but i don t understand what s in it financially for the physician to go ahead and treat unless the physician has an investment in or is involved in some kickback scheme with the home infusion company where is the financial gain for the doctor well let me put it this way based on my own experience a general practitioner with no training in infectious diseases by establishing links to the lyme community treating patients who come to him wondering about lyme or having decided they have lyme as if they did saying that diseases such as ms are probably spirochetal if not lyme giving talks at meetings of users groups validating the feelings of even delusional patients etc this gp can go from being a run of the mill k yr gp to someone with lots of patients in the hospital and getting expensive infusions that need monitoring in his office and making lots of bread also getting the adulation of many who believe his is their only hope if not of cure then of control and seeing his name in publications put out by support groups etc this is a definite temptation gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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water supplies vulnerable to milwaukee type disease outbreak here is a press release from the natural resources defense council new data show about major u s water supplies vulnerable to milwaukee type disease outbreak to national desk environment writer contact erik olson or sarah silver both of the natural resources defense council washington april internal epa data released today by the natural resources defense council reveals that about large water systems serving cities from boston to san francisco do not filter to remove disease carrying organisms leaving those communities potentially vulnerable to a disease outbreak similar to the one affecting milwaukee the epa list is attached these internal epa documents reveal that the safety of water supplies in many american cities is threatened by inadequate pollution controls or filtration said erik olson a senior attorney with nrdc water contamination isn t just a problem in bangladesh it s also a problem in bozeman and boston as of june about large surface water systems on epa s list probably will be breaking the law the safe drinking water act requires all surface water systems to either filter their water or fully protect the rivers or lakes they use from pollution olson continued some systems are moving towards eventually implementing filtration systems but are expected to miss the law s deadline olson pointed out that the threat of contamination is already a reality in other cities a survey of u s surface water systems by water utility scientists found that percent of raw water samples contained the milwaukee organism cryptosporidium and percent contained a similar parasite called giardia adding to the level of concern a general accounting office study released today by house health and environment subcommittee chairman henry waxman indicates serious deficiencies in the nation s system for conducting and following through on sanitary surveys of water systems this new information raises a huge warning sign that millions of americans can no longer simply turn on their taps and be assured that their water is safe to drink we must immediately put into place programs to protect water sources from contamination and where this is not assured filtration equipment must be installed to protect the public olson noted the time has come for many of the nation s water utilities to stop dragging their feet and to aggressively protect their water from contamination consumers are prepared to pay the modest costs needed to assure their water is safe to drink nrdc is a national non profit environmental advocacy organization systems epa indicates require filtration and do not adequately protect watersheds connecticut bridgeport bridgeport hydraulic co massachusetts boston h o resource author mwra medford mwra medford water dept melrose mwra melrose water dept hilton mwra hilton water dept needham mwra needham water division newtoncenter mwra newton water dept marblehead mwra marblehead water dept quincy 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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article apr ecsvax uncecs edu ccreegan ecsvax uncecs edu charles l creegan writes what about kekule s infamous derivation of the idea of benzene rings from a daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails is this specific enough to count certainly it turns up repeatedly in basic phil of sci texts as an example of the inventive component of hypothesizing i think the question is what is extra scientific about this it has been a long time since anyone has proposed restrictions on where one comes up with ideas in order for them to be considered legitimate hypotheses the point in short is this hypotheses and speculation in science may come from wild flights of fancy daydreams ancient traditions modern quackery or anywhere else russell
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exercise and migraine we were talking about migraine and exercise i m the one who can t fathom the thought of exercise during migraine anyway turning the thread around the other day i played tennis during my lunch hour i m out of tennis shape so it was very intense exercise i got overheated and dehydrated afterwards i noticed a tingling sensation all over my head then about hours later i could feel a migraine start i continued to drink water in the afternoon i took cafergot but it didn t help and the pain started although it wasn t as intense as it usually is and about pm that night the pain subsided this isn t the first time that i ve had a migraine occur after exercise i m wondering if anyone else has had the same experience and i wonder what triggers the migraine in this situation heat buildup dehydration i m not giving up tennis so is there anything i can do besides get into shape and don t play at high noon to prevent this thanks janet jakstys uucp ames mcdcup ntmtv janet northern telecom internet janet ntmtv com mtn view ca
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re chronic sinus and antibiotics if the nose culture shows staph then ceftin or even ceclor are better suprax does not kill staph treating bacterial infections involves a lot of try and fail because the infections often involve multiple organisms with many resistant strains some of hemophilus influenza strains are now resistant what works for me and my organisms may not work for you and yours keep experimenting ken colby
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re is msg sensitivity superstition article qjc finn gap caltech edu carl sol gps caltech edu writes now if instead of using the msg as a food additive you put the msg in gelatin capsules or whatever there may not be a reaction becasue the sensory response might be a necessary element in the creation of the msg reaction i ll bet the bogus medical researchers never even thought about that obvious fact gee he means placebo effect sorry but the researchers do know about this carl it is not placebo effect if as hypothesised the sensory response to msg s effect on flavor is responsible for the msg reaction steve
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re my new diet it works great gordon banks a lot to keep from going back to morbid obesity i think all of us cycle one s success depends on how large the fluctuations in the cycle are some people can cycle only pounds unfortunately i m not one of them this certainly describes my situation perfectly for me there is a constant dynamic between my tendency to eat which appears to be totally limitless and the purely conscious desire to not put on too much weight when i get too fat i just diet exercise more with varying degrees of success to take off the extra weight usually i cycle within a lb range but smaller and larger cycles occur as well i m always afraid that this method will stop working someday but usually i seem to be able to hold the weight gain in check this is one reason i have a hard time accepting the notion of some metabolic derangement associated with cycle dieting that results in long term weight gain i have been cycle dieting for at least years without seeing such a change i think a vigorous exercise program can go a long way toward keeping the cycles smaller and the baseline weight low brian
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re eugenics probably within years a new type of eugenics will be possible maybe even sooner we are now mapping the human genome we will then start to work on manipulation of that genome using genetic engineering we will be able to insert whatever genes we want no breeding no hybrids etc the ethical question is should we do this should we make a race of disease free long lived arnold schwartzenegger muscled supermen even if we can gordon banks n jxp skepticism is the chastity of the intellect and geb cadre dsl pitt edu it is shameful to surrender it too soon
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re homeopathy a respectable medical tradition in article pitt uucp geb cs pitt edu gordon banks writes accepted by whom not by scientists there are people in every country who waste time and money on quackery in britain and scandanavia where i have worked it was not paid for what are most of these countries i don t believe you i am told by the person who i care a lot about and who i am worried is going to start putting his health and money into homeopathy without really knowing what he is getting into and who is the reason i posted in the first place about homeopathy that in britain homeopathy is available on the national health service and that there are about gps who use homeopathic practices true false what have there been any important and documented investigations into homeopathic principles i was reading a book on homeopathy over the weekend i turned to the section on the principles behind homeopathic medicine and two paragraphs informed me that homeopaths don t feel obliged to provide any sort of explanation the author stated this with pride as though it were some sort of virtue why am i sceptical about homeopathy is it because i am a narrow minded bigot or is it because homeopathy really looks more like witch doctory than anything else daniele
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition sasghm theseus unx sas com gary merrill writes ted marvin dgbt doc ca ted grusec writes gary by extra scientific i did not mean to imply that hypothesis generation was not in most cases extremely closely tied to the state of knowledge within a scientific area i meant was that there was no scientific logic involved in the process it is inductive not deductive i am further puzzled by the proposed distinction between scientific logic and inductive logic at this point i don t have a clue what you mean by extra scientific unless you mean that at some times someone seems to come up with an idea that we can t trace to prior theories concepts knowledge etc this is a fairly common observation but just for grins i d like to see some genuine examples ok just for grins kekule hypothesized a resonant structure for the aromatic benzene ring after waking from a dream in which a snake was swallowing his tail archimedes formalized the principle of buoyancy while meditating in his bath in neither case was there no connection to prior theories concepts etc as you stipulated above what there was was an intuitive leap beyond the current way of thinking to develop ideas which subsequently proved to have predictive power e g they stood the test of experimental verification pardon my kibbutzing tom
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article qk qqinngvs im u cs utexas edu turpin cs utexas edu russell turpin writes in article apr ecsvax uncecs edu ccreegan ecsvax uncecs edu charles l creegan writes what about kekule s infamous derivation of the idea of benzene rings from a daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails is this specific enough to count certainly it turns up repeatedly in basic phil of sci texts as an example of the inventive component of hypothesizing i think the question is what is extra scientific about this it has been a long time since anyone has proposed restrictions on where one comes up with ideas in order for them to be considered legitimate hypotheses the point in short is this hypotheses and speculation in science may come from wild flights of fancy daydreams ancient traditions modern quackery or anywhere else russell yes but typically they don t not every wild flight of fancy serves or can serve in the appropriate relation to a hypothesis it is somewhat interesting that when anyone is challanged to provide an example of this sort the only one they come up with is the one about kekule surely there must be others but apparently this is regarded as an extreme example of a non rational process in science whereby a successful hypothesis was proposed but how non rational is it of course we can t hope currently at least to explain how or why kekule had the daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails surely it wasn t the only daydream he had what was special about this one could it have had something to do with a perceived analogy between the geometry of the snakes and problems concerning geometry of molecules is such analogical reasoning extra scientific or is it rather at the very heart of science perice s notion of abduction the use of models within and across disciplines upon close examination is there a non rational mystical leap taking place or is it perhaps closer to a formal though often incomplete analogy or model gary h merrill principal systems developer c compiler development sas institute inc sas campus dr cary nc sasghm theseus unx sas com mcnc sas sasghm
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re emphysema question thanks for all your assistance i ll see if he can try a different brand of patches although he s tried two brands already are there more than two melissa mmatusev radford vak ed edu after a time you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting it is not logical but it is often true spock to stonn
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re science and methodology in article c i bo cg news hawaii edu lady uhunix uhcc hawaii edu lee lady writes the difference between a nobel prize level scientist and a mediocre scientist does not lie in the quality of their empirical methodology it depends on the quality of their thinking it really bothers me that so many graduate students seem to believe that they are doing science merely because they are conducting empirical studies and i m especially offended by russell turpin s repeated assertion that science amounts to nothing more than avoiding mistakes simply avoiding mistakes doesn t get you anywhere i think that lee lady and i are talking at cross purposes above lady seems concerned with the contrast between great science that makes big advances in our knowledge and mediocre science that makes smaller steps in most of this thread i have been concerned with the difference between what is science and what is not lee lady is correct when she asserts that the difference between einstein and the average post doc physicist is the quality of their thought but what is the difference between einstein and a genius who would be a great scientist but whose great thoughts are scientifically screwy some would give velikovsky or korzybski as examples if you don t like these choose your own i say it is the same as the difference between the mediocre physicist and the mediocre proponent of qi both einstein and the mediocre physcists have disciplined their work from the cumulative knowledge of how previous researchers went wrong both velikovsky and the mediocre proponent of qi have failed to do this let me approach this from a second direction when one is asked to review a paper for a journal or conference there are many kinds of criticism that one can make one kind of criticism is that the work is just wrong or misinformed another kind of criticism is that the work while technically correct is either not important or not interesting the first difference is the one that i have been pointing to the second difference is the one that lee lady seems to be discussing if good empirical research were done and showed that there is some merit to homeopathic remedies this would certainly be valuable information but it would still not mean that homeopathy qualifies as a science this is where you and i disagree with turpin i have often pointed out that for homeopathy to be considered scientific what is needed is a test of its theoretical claims not just of some of its proposed remedies similarly i suspect that traditional chinese medicine has many remedies that work what it lacks as one example is any experiment that tests the presence of qi in order to have science one must have a theoretical structure that makes sense not a mere collection of empirically validated random hypotheses certainly a theoretical structure that makes sense is the goal in areas where we do not yet have this i see nothing wrong with forming and testing smaller hypotheses let s face it we cannot always wait for an einstein to come along and make everything clear for us sometimes those of us who are not einstein have to plug along and make small amounts of progress as best we can russell
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article apr cs rochester edu fulk cs rochester edu mark fulk writes i don t think extra scientific is a very useful phrase in a discussion of the boundaries of science except as a proposed definiens extra rational is a better phrase in fact there are quite a number of well known cases of extra rational considerations driving science in a useful direction yeah but the problem with holding up the extra rational examples as exemplars or as refutations of well founded methodology is that you run smack up against such unuseful directions as lysenko such extra rational cases are curiosities not guides to methodology gary h merrill principal systems developer c compiler development sas institute inc sas campus dr cary nc sasghm theseus unx sas com mcnc sas sasghm
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re chronic sinus and antibiotics you can also swab the inside of your nose with bacitracin using a q tip bacitracin is an antibiotic that can be bought otc as an ointment in a tube the doctor i listen to on the radio says to apply it for days while you are taking other antibiotics by mouth
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr tms micro ti com david tms micro ti com david thomas writes cnavarro cymbal calpoly edu claire writes is there such a thing as msg monosodium glutamate sensitivity i saw in the ny times sunday that scientists have testified before an fda advisory panel that complaints about msg sensitivity are superstition anybody here have experience to the contrary i m old enough to remember that the issue has come up at least a couple of times since the s then it was called the chinese restaurant syndrome because chinese cuisine has always used it so far i ve seen about a dozen posts of anecdotal evidence but no facts i suspect there is a strong psychological effect at work here does anyone have results from a scientific study using double blind trials here is another anecdotal story i am a picky eater and never wanted to try chinese food however i finally tried some in order to please a girl i was seeing at the time i had never heard of chinese restaurant syndrome a group of us went to the restaurant and all shared different dishes it didn t taste great but i decided it wasn t so bad we went home and went to bed early i woke up at am and puked my guts outs i threw up for so long that i m not kidding i pulled a muscle in my tongue dry heaves and everything no one else got sick and i m not allergic to anything that i know of suffice to say that i wont go into a chinese restaurant unless i am physically threatened the smell of the food makes me ill and that is a psycholgical reaction when i have been dragged in to suffer through beef and broccoli without any sauces i insist on no msg i haven t gotten sick yet doug bank private systems division dougb ecs comm mot com motorola communications sector dougb nwu edu schaumburg illinois dougb casbah acns nwu edu
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future of methanol i hope this is the correct newsgroup for this what is the scoop on methanol and its future as an alternative fuel for vehicles how does it compare to ethanol there was some news about health risks involved anybody know about that how does the us clean air act impact the use of methanol by the year i think its methyl tertiary butyl ether which the future industries will use as a substitute for conventional fuels there is company methanex which produces of the world s supply of methanol does anybody know about it please reply by e mail as i do not read these newsgroups thanks in advance vilok kusumakar osi protocols for tomorrow vilok bnr ca bell northern research ltd phone p o box station c fax ottawa ontario k y h
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re science and methodology was homeopathy tradition in article apr microsoft com tomca microsoft com tom b carey writes ok just for grins kekule hypothesized a resonant structure for the aromatic benzene ring after waking from a dream in which a snake was swallowing his tail archimedes formalized the principle of buoyancy while meditating in his bath well certainly in archimedes case the description while observing the phenomena in his bath seems more accurate than while meditating in his bath it was after all a rather buoyancy intense environment gary h merrill principal systems developer c compiler development sas institute inc sas campus dr cary nc sasghm theseus unx sas com mcnc sas sasghm
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re is msg sensitivity superstition in article apr lmpsbbs comm mot com dougb comm mot com doug bank writes i woke up at am and puked my guts outs i threw up for so long that i m not kidding i pulled a muscle in my tongue dry heaves and everything no one else got sick and i m not allergic to anything that i know of the funny thing is the personaly stories about reactions to msg vary so greatly some said that their heart beat speeded up with flush face some claim their heart skipped beats once in a while some reacted with headache some stomach ache some had watery eyes or running nose some had itchy skin or rashes more serious accusations include respiration difficulty and brain damage now here is a new one vomiting my guess is that msg becomes the number one suspect of any problem in this case it might be just food poisoning but if you heard things about msg you may think it must be it jason chen
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