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lb4rbxs | 1dstc6q | This is bad, really bad, but democracy is not dead. We are not a monarchy now. | Jesterthechaotic | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:34:10 | 4,670 |
lb4rceg | 1dstc6q | *Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts.*
[https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939\_e2pg.pdf](https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf) | coasterghost | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:34:15 | 4,673 |
lb4rcj6 | 1dstc6q | 6-3. Get used to seeing that. Fuck the USA and the ruling Uniparty. | Fun-Imagination3494 | 44 | 2024-07-01T14:34:16 | 4,674 |
lb4re85 | 1dsug47 | Wow. Fucking nuts. | JustMindingMyOwnStuf | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:34:32 | 4,680 |
lb4rev8 | 1dstbp0 | Dear /r/politics ,
Downvoting bad results won't make them go away. It only serves to make democrats complacent and fail to realize the urgency of the current situation. | ShichikaYasuri18 | 36 | 2024-07-01T14:34:38 | 4,681 |
lb4rfa1 | 1dsufhr | As expected and could have been stated months ago. Court rules for NOT putting Trump on trial before the election in essence. | fairoaks2 | 19 | 2024-07-01T14:34:42 | 4,682 |
lb4rgis | 1dstc6q | So...if I'm reading this right...its a punt? | WHTMage | 44 | 2024-07-01T14:34:54 | 4,685 |
lb4rgwj | 1dsug47 | A non-ruling after extensive delay, it seems | gr4v1tt | 40 | 2024-07-01T14:34:58 | 4,686 |
lb4rhn3 | 1dstc6q | King Charles I lost his head for believing this. We've regressed further than early modern Europe. Fucking hell. | AthasDuneWalker | 27 | 2024-07-01T14:35:05 | 4,688 |
lb4rhpr | 1dsug47 | Banana republic.
This court is illegitimate, and should be treated as such. | MissingWellington | 35 | 2024-07-01T14:35:06 | 4,689 |
lb4rhqp | 1dsudmm | Good thing they took 7 months to remand this back to district Court. Not like special prosecutor asked for this to be streamlined in December for this exact reason. | Someguy469 | 44 | 2024-07-01T14:35:06 | 4,690 |
lb4rjtp | 1dstc6q | This seems to be the middle ground (using that term very, very loosely).
The president is immune for official acts.
So now the debate turns to what is an official act.
All this seems to do is delay everything related to Trump while that is argued. And gives the courts a way to apply immunity to some and not others. | Roseking | 25 | 2024-07-01T14:35:27 | 4,695 |
lb4rko1 | 1dstc6q | such a fucking cop out what the ever fuck | chaingly | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:35:36 | 4,699 |
lb4rm30 | 1dstc6q | Ordering the military to execute your political rivals is now a fully protected official duty of the President. | 1877KlownsForKids | 35 | 2024-07-01T14:35:49 | 4,702 |
lb4rmdi | 1dstc6q | Not what I wanted, but it isn't all doom and gloom. We halfway expected this, and he's still not immune from things coming up. This is just a punt. | CEOPhilosopher | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:35:52 | 4,704 |
lb4rn8l | 1dstc6q | So presidents have immunity from “official” acts but not “unofficial” ones.
Let me clear up how that’s going to work.
Acts done by REPUBLICAN presidents are OFFICIAL
While any acts by DEMOCRATIC presidents are UNOFFICIAL | loof10 | 173 | 2024-07-01T14:36:01 | 4,707 |
lb4rnrg | 1dstc6q | > There is no immunity for unofficial acts.
That would be not good for Trump’s document case, if he had even a not good judge. Also, it leaves open arguments for what is an offical and unofficial act. Was his Jan 6 rally an official act? Biden has to win so he can replace Alito and Thomas when they croak from the fear of a second Biden term so there can be a case to establish that ordering assassinations of political rivals isn’t an official act. | Equal_Present_3927 | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:36:06 | 4,708 |
lb4rob8 | 1dstc6q | Lots of hyperventilation here, please listen to the whole decision as it’s not king trump now | Wizen_Diz | 16 | 2024-07-01T14:36:11 | 4,710 |
lb4rpjp | 1dstc6q | *"A republic, if you can keep it"*
**We failed** | No-Cucumber-6667 | 43 | 2024-07-01T14:36:23 | 4,713 |
lb4rq3c | 1dstc6q | We get to overthrow a King again I guess. People died for this once, and they'll do it again. | DoNotAskForIt | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:36:29 | 4,715 |
lb4rqoh | 1dsug47 | The more they keep amping up their insanity, the bigger the target they'll have on their backs. This doesn't end with everyone alive and I feel like something to that nature will have to happen to keep these assholes in line. The supreme court just keeps making the target bigger. | CreepyAssociation173 | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:36:35 | 4,719 |
lb4rqzg | 1dsug47 | What the fuck are we doing? | us1087 | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:36:38 | 4,722 |
lb4rrny | 1dstc6q | We no longer have a president. SCOTUS has decided we have a king instead. | PM_ME_YOUR_TANG | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:36:44 | 4,724 |
lb4rsx5 | 1dstc6q | Sounds like King Biden needs to hurry up and deploy some SEAL teams | PM_me_butts666 | 21 | 2024-07-01T14:36:57 | 4,728 |
lb4rt9a | 1dsug47 | Wow, Supreme Court is changing the constitution as it feels without needing the 2/3rd majority. 6 people is all we need for democracy to be eradicated slowly and absolutely. It’s a fucking joke at this point . | i_max2k2 | 66 | 2024-07-01T14:37:01 | 4,729 |
lb4rtch | 1dsug47 | So we have kings now? Unbelievable | cashew_nuts | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:37:01 | 4,731 |
lb4rtgc | 1dstc6q | Taking 6 months off the clock and then this half-baked opinion which clarifies nothing, dropped as the justices go wheels up on their long vacations, leaving the courts with a pile of shit to sort through. | Patarokun | 147 | 2024-07-01T14:37:02 | 4,732 |
lb4ruc1 | 1dstc6q | Time for Biden to lock up Trump! Immunity, right? | beer_down | 36 | 2024-07-01T14:37:11 | 4,739 |
lb4ruyt | 1dsudmm | Does this mean Biden could declare Trump an enemy of the state and have him executed with immunity? | No-Cucumber-6667 | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:37:17 | 4,741 |
lb4rvqo | 1dstc6q | Per the live coverage on SCOTUSblog
> The court holds that a former president has absolute immunity for his core constitutional powers.
> Former presidents are also entitled to at least a presumption of immunity for their official acts.
> There is no immunity, the court holds, for unofficial acts.The core constitutional powers are things like appointing ambassadors and foreign governments.
> The court explains that it does not need to decide in this case whether immunity for official acts is presumptive or absolute.
> The court in Part III of its opinion indicates that in this case "no court has thus far considered how" to distinguish between official and unofficial acts.
> Moreover, Roberts continues, "the lower courts rendered their decisions on a highly expedited basis" and "did not analyze the conduct alleged in the indictment to decide which of it should be categorized as official and which unofficial" -- and it wasn't briefed before the Supreme Court.
> So the Supreme Court isn't going to make that determination now. Instead, it will send the case back to the lower courts for further proceedings, although it does offer some guidance. | Searchlights | 93 | 2024-07-01T14:37:24 | 4,745 |
lb4rvr1 | 1dsujb5 | What the ever living fuck? | Reddit_guard | 24 | 2024-07-01T14:37:24 | 4,746 |
lb4rvv5 | 1dstc6q | The court has marked the Pence interactions as zero immunity. | Starks | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:37:25 | 4,747 |
lb4rwif | 1dstc6q | Joe Biden needs to go apeshit while he is in office. I mean burn it down right? | BettyX | 23 | 2024-07-01T14:37:31 | 4,748 |
lb4rwk5 | 1dsudmm | Our republic has collapsed in front of our eyes. Multiple institutions have been compromised to install an authoritarian regime | DoctorPilotSpy | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:37:32 | 4,749 |
lb4rwnv | 1dstc6q | "Indeed, the majority holds that the President, unlike anyone else in our country, is comparatively free to engage in criminal acts in furtherance of his official duties."
Nixon wishes he had this Supreme Court! | walt_whitmans_ghost | 109 | 2024-07-01T14:37:33 | 4,750 |
lb4rx1s | 1dstc6q | This is expert delay tactics isn't it? Took them like 2 months to say nothing. So is the prosecution case still on hold? | ghoonrhed | 26 | 2024-07-01T14:37:36 | 4,751 |
lb4rxko | 1dstc6q | And who decides which acts are official and which aren't? That's right, this SCOTUS. | pontiacfirebird92 | 34 | 2024-07-01T14:37:41 | 4,753 |
lb4ryd9 | 1dssucp | “like Biden” fuck off. What about like Mitch McConnell? Or just making the statement “Trump had a brain freeze moment” assholes. | UnobtainiumIsHard | 44 | 2024-07-01T14:37:49 | 4,755 |
lb4rye6 | 1dstc6q | summary of specific allegations:
**Specific Allegations:**
* Allegations involving Trump's interactions with the Acting Attorney General fall within his official duties and are protected by absolute immunity.
* Allegations involving Trump's pressure on the Vice President during the certification process require further analysis to determine if they fall under official acts.
* Allegations involving Trump's interactions with state officials, private parties, and public comments need careful scrutiny to categorize them as official or unofficial. | Winkie1 | 19 | 2024-07-01T14:37:49 | 4,756 |
lb4rzev | 1dsua3s | GOP killed one of the best border bills they could of asked for. All because Presiden Biden would have gotten the credit. | wave_PhD | 33 | 2024-07-01T14:37:59 | 4,759 |
lb4rzks | 1dsug47 | Ok immunity for official acts, but not unofficial ones.
But who defines official and unofficial? | LuinAelin | 25 | 2024-07-01T14:38:01 | 4,760 |
lb4s0or | 1dsujb5 | Biden should officially order Trump dead then. | strat77x | 29 | 2024-07-01T14:38:11 | 4,762 |
lb4s1j1 | 1dstc6q | Not all of this is a doom and gloom, but boy did they punt on this decision | WV-GT | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:38:20 | 4,766 |
lb4s1oa | 1dstc6q | I guess it was expected. It is a Republican Dominated SC after all. | Propagation931 | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:38:21 | 4,767 |
lb4s1w7 | 1dsug47 | So presidents have immunity from “official” acts but not “unofficial” ones.
Let me clear up how that’s going to work.
Acts done by REPUBLICAN presidents are OFFICIAL
While any acts by DEMOCRATIC presidents are UNOFFICIAL | loof10 | 75 | 2024-07-01T14:38:23 | 4,769 |
lb4s240 | 1dstc6q | Shocker that they punted. They could have done this months ago but it’s delay delay delay | fuzzy_dice_99 | 27 | 2024-07-01T14:38:25 | 4,771 |
lb4s2e3 | 1dstc6q | The key thing is official vs unofficial acts. Thats a punt. Stall tactics activated. | RipErRiley | 43 | 2024-07-01T14:38:28 | 4,773 |
lb4s3zo | 1dsug47 | Well, it’s only for “official” acts. Which will be defined based on the political party of the president in question. | aganalf | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:38:43 | 4,778 |
lb4s464 | 1dsug47 | By "official acts" they mean "insurrection; stealing classified document to sell to the USA's enemies; subverting elections in Georgia and Arizona; voting in New York and in Florida; campaign finance crimes; tax evasion.... | david-writers | 28 | 2024-07-01T14:38:45 | 4,779 |
lb4s5dj | 1dssucp | The problem is trump has always said stupid shit so when he says even more dumb shit it doesn’t seem that far off. | highgravityday2121 | 327 | 2024-07-01T14:38:57 | 4,785 |
lb4s69d | 1dsug47 | POTUS needs immunity for certain things to do his job. POTUS needs limited immunity for other things. We're not gonna tell you whether he needs immunity for this case.
Yikes. | accountabilitycounts | 39 | 2024-07-01T14:39:05 | 4,787 |
lb4s6aj | 1dsug47 | So can Biden, in an official act as president, put all the conservative justices on a boat and sink it in the middle of the ocean? Let’s get a petition going. | Maleficent_Cicada_72 | 51 | 2024-07-01T14:39:06 | 4,788 |
lb4s70w | 1dstc6q | Punts to lower courts to decide what is or isn't an official act. Such individual rulings will no doubt be appealed all the way up to SCOTUS.
No clear answer. It's all going to be worked out by the courts on a case-by-case basis. | GhostFish | 25 | 2024-07-01T14:39:12 | 4,789 |
lb4s7s9 | 1dstc6q | The SCOTUS is a joke. | bbjenn | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:39:20 | 4,791 |
lb4s86t | 1dstc6q | They did it, this court is completely illegitimate, corrupt and extremist. | ExactDevelopment4892 | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:39:24 | 4,794 |
lb4s8mq | 1dsufhr | I always had those romantic thoughts that in the end people would do the right thing and that morals actually mattered. How depressing.
Democracy dies with thunderous applause. | us1087 | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:39:28 | 4,799 |
lb4sa5v | 1dsug47 | So what’s stopping Biden from jailing Trump right now outside of possible impeachment | bdixisndniz | 30 | 2024-07-01T14:39:43 | 4,804 |
lb4saxy | 1dstc6q | Fucking delay-tools... | HarryPyhole | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:39:51 | 4,805 |
lb4scvi | 1dstc6q | Now I know how the senator from Naboo felt | Actual-Hotel-6922 | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:40:09 | 4,812 |
lb4sd9k | 1dsuiy4 | This court is out of fucking control. | a_anag | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:40:13 | 4,813 |
lb4sf65 | 1dstc6q | So then it would be ok for Biden to have the illegitimate right wing radical "judges" of the SCOTUS removed and imprisoned?
If I'm reading the opinion correctly that sure seems within his right as King to do so. Isn't that right SCOTUS? | TuffNutzes | 16 | 2024-07-01T14:40:31 | 4,817 |
lb4sf7p | 1dstc6q | We'll never escape the damage 2016 did, not in any of our lifetimes. | the-wave | 31 | 2024-07-01T14:40:32 | 4,818 |
lb4sfzo | 1dstc6q | The punt is expected. Just wait if Trump wins everything will be an official act magically
To everyone thinking about not voting for Biden we did that shit in 16 with Clinton and here we are
Chances are the older justices will "suddenly" retire and trumps best defense attorney Judge Cannon and another conservative dumbass judge will be appointed leading to more erosion of rights
Vote | Impossible-Wedding-4 | 16 | 2024-07-01T14:40:39 | 4,821 |
lb4sgit | 1dstc6q | The official act vs. unofficial act caveat just gives the SCOTUS more power. Any future challenge to what is an official/unofficial act by the President will undoubtedly end up in the Supreme Court. It gives them power to determine what is an official act and what is not. This gives them the freedom to prosecute some presidents by declaring their actions do not rise to the level of "official" and the power to not prosecute other presidents by declaring their actions "official". They could now have the final authority to determine which presidents can and cannot be prosecuted. | Reid0072 | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:40:44 | 4,823 |
lb4shlu | 1dstc6q | What I’m gathering from this decision is that Biden should have Trump thrown in the gulags as an “Official Act” to save our country from a felonious dictator wannabe | sloppybuttmustard | 29 | 2024-07-01T14:40:55 | 4,829 |
lb4sjq4 | 1dstc6q | It's been a good run, folks. America going forward now has a *legal precedent* for the president to essentially be a monarch. | cultfourtyfive | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:41:16 | 4,833 |
lb4skwo | 1dstc6q | I'm a little worried that they didn't give more guidance on the distinction between official and unofficial acts.
Remember: Some of the things Trump's attorney deemed official acts included assassination of a political rival.
Moreover, this creates the possibility of another eventual appeal to the Supreme Court about whether the lower court made this distinction correctly. | Infidel8 | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:41:27 | 4,836 |
lb4sl0l | 1dstqcu | Maybe after this we can get an age limit. I’m still voting for him but this is crazy we’re at this point. Both are almost 80 odds are whoever wins will die from old age in office. Average age for men is 73.
Need age limit, must be no older than 62 or something for your first term. | pisachas1 | 41 | 2024-07-01T14:41:28 | 4,837 |
lb4sla0 | 1dstc6q | "It is these enduring principles that guide our decision in this case. **The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official**. **The President is not above the law**. But Congress may not criminalize the President’s conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution. And the system of separated powers designed by the Framers has always demanded an energetic, independent Executive. The President therefore may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and he is entitled, at a minimum, to a presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. That immunity applies equally to all occupants of the Oval Office, regardless of politics, policy, or party." | Remarkable-Mood2840 | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:41:31 | 4,838 |
lb4slgs | 1dstc6q | Elections have consequences.
Electing Trump in 2016 – a lifelong conman – was the beginnign of the end for the American experience. He was literally the "king" mentality the Founders fought against.
It was nice knowing you America. | Itsprobablysarcasm | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:41:32 | 4,841 |
lb4smr9 | 1dstc6q | So an official act of Joe Biden should be to LOCK. HIM. UP. And he's immune after doing so ;) | NutMcNuttey | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:41:45 | 4,848 |
lb4sn09 | 1dstc6q | Literally nothing had improved in this country in the last 35 years. How much more of this shit are us millennials going to keep taking?
We really just going to sit on our fucking hands until this poisonous crop of baby boomer demons does off before we try improving things? | Fun-Imagination3494 | 19 | 2024-07-01T14:41:47 | 4,849 |
lb4snmk | 1dstc6q | Well, they kicked the ball down and delayed again. SCOTUS is a joke. | tydestra | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:41:53 | 4,851 |
lb4sohf | 1dsug47 | Time for Biden to make some "official acts" of his own then, since he's now immune. | mogwai316 | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:42:02 | 4,853 |
lb4spfq | 1dstc6q | I think everyone here is freaking out over nothing. The President has ALWAYS operated with immunity for their official acts. This isn’t something new, we have always operated this way. This was a major decision because it affirms that UNOFFICIAL acts are not covered. Trumps fake electors scheme is an unofficial act, his document retention is an unofficial act, his coercion of officials in Georgia are unofficial. The only way Georgia and Jan 6th could be official would be if they can prove there was large scale fraud, which they can not and have not and will not be able to. The SC has upheld how Presidents have always operated, but now we know for sure that they aren’t completely immune. This was a win for the good guys. | HODOR13 | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:42:11 | 4,855 |
lb4spy6 | 1dstc6q | The most dangerous part about this?
When Trump wins the election, he'll just start breaking more laws and more egregiously as president. Every instance of it will create yet another court case and YEARS of this BS. Trump will be dead long before any of it is decided and he won't spend a day in prison. | ReaderBeeRottweiler | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:42:16 | 4,859 |
lb4spy7 | 1dsunjh | The Supreme Court is entirely corrupt | Uberslaughter | 42 | 2024-07-01T14:42:16 | 4,860 |
lb4sq7z | 1dstc6q | So can Biden just shoot Trump in the middle of Times Square and claim it was an "official act"? Then kick it to the lower court to deliberate the definition of an official act for a few years? | ElizabethTheFourth | 24 | 2024-07-01T14:42:19 | 4,862 |
lb4sqo1 | 1dstc6q | > Whenever the President and Vice President discuss their official re- sponsibilities, they engage in official conduct. Presiding over the Jan- uary 6 certification proceeding at which Members of Congress count the electoral votes is a constitutional and statutory duty of the Vice President. Art. II, §1, cl. 3; Amdt. 12; 3 U. S. C. §15. The indictment’s allegations that Trump attempted to pressure the Vice President to take particular acts in connection with his role at the certification proceeding thus involve official conduct, and Trump is at least presumptively immune from prosecution for such conduct.
That's insane. A president instructing the vice president to not certify the election and just deem himself the winner is just part of the job and a protected act? | Oppression_Rod | 38 | 2024-07-01T14:42:23 | 4,865 |
lb4squx | 1dsunjh | 6-3 of course. | picado | 30 | 2024-07-01T14:42:25 | 4,866 |
lb4ss6g | 1dstc6q | As Biden’s next “official” act, he should have the compromised justices removed. | moanit | 21 | 2024-07-01T14:42:37 | 4,872 |
lb4ssa2 | 1dstc6q | Here's a summary of the decision for those interested:
# Summary:
**Background:**
* Trump was indicted on four counts related to actions taken to overturn the 2020 election results.
* Trump claimed he had absolute presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his official duties.
* The District Court and the D.C. Circuit rejected this claim, stating former Presidents do not possess such immunity.
**Supreme Court Ruling:**
* The Court held that a former President has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his exclusive constitutional authority and presumptive immunity for other official acts.
* There is no immunity for unofficial acts.
**Key Points:**
1. **Constitutional Basis:**
* The President's executive power, vested by Article II, grants some immunity from prosecution for official acts to ensure the President can perform duties without undue caution.
* Absolute immunity applies to actions within the President's exclusive authority.
* Presumptive immunity applies to other official actions, rebuttable only if it does not intrude on executive functions.
2. **Distinguishing Official from Unofficial Acts:**
* Official acts involve constitutional and statutory authority, falling within the "outer perimeter" of presidential responsibilities.
* Unofficial acts do not have immunity, as they are beyond the scope of presidential duties.
3. **Specific Allegations:**
* Allegations involving Trump's interactions with the Acting Attorney General fall within his official duties and are protected by absolute immunity.
* Allegations involving Trump's pressure on the Vice President during the certification process require further analysis to determine if they fall under official acts.
* Allegations involving Trump's interactions with state officials, private parties, and public comments need careful scrutiny to categorize them as official or unofficial.
**Conclusion:**
* The Supreme Court vacated and remanded the lower court's decision for further analysis to distinguish between Trump's official and unofficial actions related to the indictment.
* The President is not above the law, but there are protections to ensure the effective functioning of the executive branch. | Winkie1 | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:42:38 | 4,873 |
lb4st53 | 1dsuiy4 | The entire point was to delay. | Arguments_4_Ever | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:42:47 | 4,875 |
lb4stdb | 1dstc6q | Seems like Biden could send Seal Team Six to Mar-a-Lago in order to protect the US from fascism and it would be protected under this ruling? Interesting. | hothamwater289 | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:42:49 | 4,876 |
lb4su6t | 1dsujb5 | So now it goes back to the lower courts to determine whether inciting insurrection is a "core constitutional act". That should take another three years before appeals are done so yeah, he'll never be held accountable. | Meunderwears | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:42:57 | 4,883 |
lb4suwc | 1dsunjh | Well, it's been a good run for democracy. Had to end some time. | Zephirus-eek | 21 | 2024-07-01T14:43:04 | 4,887 |
lb4swg1 | 1dsujb5 | The court has been captured, if there was any doubt left | mattgross1 | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:43:20 | 4,891 |
lb4swo6 | 1dstc6q | My interpretation of this is that SOCTUS interfered to achieve nothing. Lower courts need to decide what is an official act and what isn't, which can be appealed back to SCOTUS. | dopey_giraffe | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:43:22 | 4,892 |
lb4szbw | 1dsunjh | Literally watching democracy fall apart before our eyes, after he wins there will be nothing left. It’s truly vile. | yesyesyes123123 | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:43:47 | 4,901 |
lb4t0so | 1dstc6q | Biden should launch a Tomahawk on Trump Tower and claim it’s national security
Official acts enjoy immunity, they said | ApprehensivePlum1420 | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:44:01 | 4,907 |
lb4t1mj | 1dsunjh | Fuck conservatives and everyone who votes for them. They have doomed us all. I just hope most of them suffer first for the atrocities they have brought. | Ok_Ninja1486 | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:44:09 | 4,909 |
lb4t2n0 | 1dstc6q | This just sets up the debate of what is official and what isn't. Not good news. Not bad news. It's now on Trumps lawyers to make an argument what he did was official. It's incredible it took so long for basically nothing changing | gojowillbeback4real | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:44:19 | 4,912 |
lb4t3ja | 1dstc6q | Cool, so if Biden loses he is well within his right to stage his own coup and block the transfer of power. Got it. I look forward to the Democrat version of Jan 6th where he orders the troops to make them certify him as the winner. | EridanusVoid | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:44:29 | 4,916 |
lb4t4pf | 1dstc6q | The court has lost all credibility. I hope everyone who decided not to vote for Hillary in 2016 is happy with these decisions the past 2 years. They're only going to get worse.
On the Trump immunity. I'm not surprised by the decision. They were going to give immunity for something. They still punted it back to a lower court and in effect, will delay the trial until after the election, where it may not happen at all.
They could have issued this a month ago, but they're actively working for MAGA and it's a blatant attempt to influence the election.
A lower court will find that trump's attempt were not an "official" act, because all of his attempts to overturn the election were done as a candidate for President. He won't win, but my god I never thought SCOTUS would be this bad. | Floorguy1 | 24 | 2024-07-01T14:44:40 | 4,920 |
lb4t4pr | 1dsunjh | This is fucking insane.
Democracy is literally dangling on a cliff, or maybe, it already fell……….
I can’t believe this country sold everything to protect this Traitor and Conman. | ConfederacyOfDunces_ | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:44:40 | 4,921 |
lb4t4yl | 1dsupsh | The US is doomed. | TheLastRole | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:44:43 | 4,922 |
lb4t5g5 | 1dstc6q | You know what’s an official act of the president? Appointing Supreme Court justices. Biden should just appoint a few more now. (Liberal fantasy…I know) | bassocontinubow | 21 | 2024-07-01T14:44:47 | 4,927 |
lb4t62x | 1dstc6q | If you're a Democratic President, everything is "unofficial"
If you're a Republican President, everything is "official" and you can get away with anything.
There. That's a summary of the decision. | ev6464 | 26 | 2024-07-01T14:44:53 | 4,928 |
lb4t6qc | 1dstc6q | From Sotomayor's dissent:
"Looking beyond the fate of this particular prosecution, the long-term consequences of today’s decision are stark. The Court effectively creates a law-free zone around the President, upsetting the status quo that has existed since the Founding. This new official-acts immunity now “lies about like a loaded weapon” for any President that wishes to place his own interests, his own political survival, or his own financial gain, above the interests of the Nation. Korematsu v. United States, 323 U. S. 214, 246 (1944) (Jackson, J., dissenting). The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. **Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.** | StinkiePhish | 40 | 2024-07-01T14:45:00 | 4,931 |
lb4t6vh | 1dsupsh | Hard to imagine the Supreme Court topping the 2022 term in terms of sheer legal depravity, and yet here we are. | ScotTheDuck | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:45:01 | 4,932 |
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