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lb4t78i | 1dsupsh | Biden needs to start rolling out some official acts ASAP | 666alphaomega666 | 7,552 | 2024-07-01T14:45:05 | 4,934 |
lb4t7lc | 1dstc6q | SCOUTS is so corrupt.
Gave him partial immunity. Kicks the other 2 issues down to a lower court, then theyll just intercede again to rule once shes ruled.
They're wholly corrupt and playing politics here. | jamarchasinalombardi | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:45:08 | 4,936 |
lb4t7vz | 1dsupsh | The delay tactics worked. Court of Clowns. | onesneakymofo | 38 | 2024-07-01T14:45:11 | 4,939 |
lb4t96x | 1dspwzl | I’m tired of discussing how these people “feel.” Fuck their feelings. Joe knew what he signed up for and if Jill wants to be shadow president so bad then let her run her own campaign.
Also, if Joe steps down now with dignity and does everything to help whoever is nominated to replace him THAT and 2020’s victory will be his legacy. If he stubbornly stays on, his legacy will be that of Hilary Clinton and RBG, a fallen star that took the country down with them for their own hubris. | Brillo137 | 41 | 2024-07-01T14:45:24 | 4,944 |
lb4t9l3 | 1dsj5j4 | This aged like milk. | cixelsydfirst1 | 28 | 2024-07-01T14:45:28 | 4,947 |
lb4t9xk | 1dsupsh | Even the fucking Magna Carta said that kings have to follow the law. This is literally taking us to the dark ages | emaw63 | 33 | 2024-07-01T14:45:31 | 4,948 |
lb4t9zl | 1dsupsh | Trump gonna send a hit on Obama and Biden if he wins. | calling-all-comas | 16 | 2024-07-01T14:45:32 | 4,950 |
lb4tbdv | 1dsupsh | Justice Sotomayor's closing remarks of her powerful dissent in the immunity case: "With fear for our democracy, I dissent." | OldCleanBastard | 8,499 | 2024-07-01T14:45:45 | 4,955 |
lb4tbqj | 1dsupsh | Goddammit. This country is so fucking fucked.
Why did I have kids?!? | Mr_Soul_Crusher | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:45:48 | 4,957 |
lb4tchw | 1dsupsh | There is only one party we can allow in power at this rate. Every single Republican needs to be voted out, because we only have so many mechanisms to fight back against this Randian wet-dream of deregulation.
We are not voting for any one candidate this election. We are voting for our very freedom. | Reddit_guard | 25 | 2024-07-01T14:45:56 | 4,958 |
lb4tckl | 1dstc6q | One of the official acts of the President is adding Justices to the Supreme Court. Seems like a good time to add a few seats. | SpaceManSmithy | 18 | 2024-07-01T14:45:57 | 4,959 |
lb4tcom | 1dsupsh | So by this ruling Biden could issue an executive order - an "official act" - to have Trump shot out of a cannon towards the Moon - and he'd be immune from prosecution, sounds legit | William_T_Wanker | 30 | 2024-07-01T14:45:58 | 4,960 |
lb4tcsf | 1dsupsh | Punted back to lower courts. Thanks SCOTUS. | Bleeding_Irish | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:45:59 | 4,961 |
lb4tcy6 | 1dsupsh | Truly disgusting. From most power nation in the world, to 3rd world country in 10 more years. | LPQ_Master | 19 | 2024-07-01T14:46:00 | 4,962 |
lb4td1a | 1dsupsh | Wow, what a shocker
I hate this court so goddamn much | Left4Bread2 | 18 | 2024-07-01T14:46:01 | 4,963 |
lb4tdgm | 1dsupsh | So basically they delayed the trials to rule exactly how everybody already thought | SpartanVFL | 1,449 | 2024-07-01T14:46:05 | 4,967 |
lb4te19 | 1dstc6q | Everybody is overreacting and forgetting what Trump was *trying* to accomplish. He wanted *absolute immunity* for *any* of his actions.
SCOTUS said, "No, the same rule as always applies. Unofficial acts are not protected. Now go have the trial, because we've made clear the United States has standing here." | SimbaStewEyesOfBlue | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:46:11 | 4,971 |
lb4ted4 | 1dsupsh | This is the beginning of the end. This is the end of democracy. | Chuck_McBuff | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:46:14 | 4,972 |
lb4tefs | 1dsupsh | Essentially will go back to lower court but Jack smith will need to argue that trumps actions were ‘unofficial’ which will be a very high bar to gain any sort of victory on.. big trump win. | biobrad56 | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:46:15 | 4,973 |
lb4tf67 | 1dsupsh | Americans need to be organizing and taking to the streets before it's too late | TenaciousNIC | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:46:22 | 4,979 |
lb4tf6z | 1dstc6q | Okay Biden, you just heard it from the courts, everything you do, as long as they're "official acts" is now immune, so now go ham and show them why this decision was a mistake and teach them they shouldn't have done this. | jish5 | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:46:22 | 4,980 |
lb4tffc | 1dsupsh | I look forward to being the smartest person in every room I enter. I just hope I can pretend to love Jesus enough to not have them kill or jail me in the next few years. | ThundergunTLP | 18 | 2024-07-01T14:46:24 | 4,981 |
lb4tfjc | 1dsupsh | The main takeaway is the gift to Trump the Supreme Court keeps on giving - delay.
- They could have heard Jack Smith's emergency appeal months ago.
- They could have let the unanimous, well-reasoned circuit decision stand.
- They could have ruled on this case earlier than the LAST DAY of the term.
Yet here we are, waiting on the glacial pace of this ridiculous court for something they never had to weigh into - and America's voters will not know whether or not a frontrunner for President will receive a guilty verdict or not for trying to *overthrow the government* before he's potentially given another chance to do it all over again.
Awesome job guys.
With that out of the way, this sets up at least a tiny silver lining going forward.
Chutkan can now hold an evidentiary hearing. And she can start it almost immediately.
For those unfamiliar, it creates a "mini-trial" of sorts which allows a judge to hear testimony, evidence and whatever is necessary for Chutkan to reach a determination.
Since that determination delves deep into the heart of the prosecution, this means we could easily hear new testimony under oath from huge figures like Pence, the public could learn about previously-undisclosed evidence regarding Jan. 6, etc.
It gives Jack Smith at least an avenue to produce some pretty damning stuff that will be thrust into the public - and possibly for months leading up to the election.
It absolutely pales in comparison to, y'know... A criminal trial. But given the circumstances, I'm looking forward to it. | CaptainNoBoat | 600 | 2024-07-01T14:46:25 | 4,983 |
lb4tfn2 | 1dsupsh | If this guy wins the election, we will be living in a dystopian society | bootyhunter69420 | 1,862 | 2024-07-01T14:46:26 | 4,985 |
lb4tg8j | 1dsua3s | But the fascists refused to increase boarder security because they can continue to blame Biden for the refugee crisis. The Republican Party's cable network is yet again pretending to not know this. | david-writers | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:46:32 | 4,988 |
lb4tgsb | 1dsupsh | To a certain extent, this is a win for the Biden campaign in the very limited scope of taking the focus off the debate performance. Also gives them more scope to underscore what this could mean for a second Trump administration, some fear tactics. | Jon_Thib | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:46:37 | 4,992 |
lb4thcr | 1dsupsh | He packed those courts. No surprise there | Tipsy247 | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:46:43 | 4,993 |
lb4thpx | 1dstc6q | Joe needs to remove the dunning-Kruger six by any means necessary in an “official” act. They just turned this joint into a monarchy. | roanbuffalo | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:46:46 | 4,997 |
lb4thui | 1dsupsh | Alright Joe, time to start committing some crimes. | Alexispinpgh | 26 | 2024-07-01T14:46:48 | 4,998 |
lb4thya | 1dsupsh | Exactly what was expected.
Now this gets kicked back to lower courts for them to interpret what an “official act” actually is. I’d bet money on the SC getting many more cases regarding “official acts” assuming small hands fails to get into office.
Jeez. | Mrgripshimself | 120 | 2024-07-01T14:46:49 | 4,999 |
lb4thyi | 1dsupsh | Wow the last line of Sotomayor’s dissent: “With fear for our democracy, I dissent” | TapirOfDoom | 1,750 | 2024-07-01T14:46:49 | 5,000 |
lb4ti82 | 1dsupsh | we are no longer a serious country | inshamblesx | 21 | 2024-07-01T14:46:51 | 5,003 |
lb4tinz | 1dsupsh | The American experiment is over. | bee_tee_ess | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:46:56 | 5,005 |
lb4tj7e | 1dsupsh | so we're gonna have a coup every time an incumbent loses an election? | mrahole | 16 | 2024-07-01T14:47:01 | 5,009 |
lb4tjk4 | 1dstc6q | Everyone talks so much shit about MAGA but they all vote. All of them. Will you? | royhenderson771 | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:47:05 | 5,014 |
lb4tjsh | 1dsupsh | So the President can carry out a brazen, clearly illegal "official" act, and then have it dragged out in courts forever? What stops them from committing non stop "official" acts like ordering court cases stopped, firing officials, pardoning themselves, etc etc? | dannysays | 19 | 2024-07-01T14:47:07 | 5,016 |
lb4tk09 | 1dsupsh | So now Biden, in his “official capacity” as president, can immediately remove all six conservative justices, and appoint and seat their replacements immediately, right?
Or is this another “rules for thee, not for me” that only doesn’t work for Democrats? | yntsiredx | 1,187 | 2024-07-01T14:47:09 | 5,018 |
lb4tk51 | 1dsupsh | Come on Brandon, do something cool | Inevitable-Ice-1939 | 19 | 2024-07-01T14:47:10 | 5,020 |
lb4tkwh | 1dsupsh | So the Supreme Court has officially decided that Presidents are above the law. | ME24601 | 32 | 2024-07-01T14:47:18 | 5,021 |
lb4tl2a | 1dsupsh | If Trump is elected, he will direct, as an official act, now his attorney general to drop all cases against him.
He will also, as an official act, pardon all past allies of him including the 1/6ers. And preemptively pardon himself as his current family and allies of all future acts. | leontes | 36 | 2024-07-01T14:47:19 | 5,022 |
lb4tlam | 1dstc6q | And fuck even more. Thomas just gave Cannon all the reason she needs to rule that Smith's appointment was illegal. | niknight_ml | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:47:21 | 5,024 |
lb4tluk | 1dsupsh | This country has become a joke. This is a joke. It's not funny though. | Zanchbot | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:47:26 | 5,027 |
lb4tlzj | 1dsupsh | What's the difference between an official act and an unofficial act? | MukwiththeBuck | 10,010 | 2024-07-01T14:47:28 | 5,029 |
lb4tm8h | 1dsupsh | Put timing aside, and this isn't the worst decision. It makes sense from a constitutional perspective. The president does need immunity for official acts, or how could you even do the job. And then it becomes an analysis of what's official vs. non-official -- an analysis lawyers and courts do all the time.
The problem is timing. And that's Merrick Garland's fault. Let's not forget that his response to J6 was to prosecute the nobodies that stormed the capital, going after low hanging fruit rather than the people who orchestrated J6. He barely had an investigation going by the time the J6 committee started holding hearings. And then he had to hire a ringer from Europe to finish the job.
This is all Garland's fault. What a coward. | Guhonda | 25 | 2024-07-01T14:47:30 | 5,030 |
lb4tnwn | 1dsupsh | This was more or less what was expected I think. They'd thread the needle by not giving him the blanket immunity he was requesting, but would also not rule on the specific merits of immunity claims on specific acts for which he's charged, sending it back to the lower courts to decide was constitutes official vs unofficial acts, which can then be challenged again by Trump going back to the Supreme Court. This maximizes the delay he was seeking in allowing the trials to move forward and ensures nothing happens before the election. | abinferno | 30 | 2024-07-01T14:47:46 | 5,036 |
lb4toda | 1dsupsh | So now, to save democracy, Biden can have Trump assassinated because he believes Trump is an existential threat to the Constitution, right? Official act, immunity. | underpantsgenome | 154 | 2024-07-01T14:47:51 | 5,039 |
lb4tp63 | 1dsupsh | Good thing that criminal conspiracy to commit treason isn't an official act. | spaceman757 | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:47:58 | 5,040 |
lb4tpxu | 1dsupsh | So he got exactly what he wanted... Delays. He'll now argue each of his actions are official acts. The lower courts will then decide whether that is true. He'll appeal those rulings all the way to SCOTUS, who will then sit on it as long as they possibly can. The whole core idea of "no one is above the law" has been destroyed. Presidents are above the law. | captaincanada84 | 44 | 2024-07-01T14:48:06 | 5,043 |
lb4tpz6 | 1dsupsh | So if the President takes a bribe in the course of an official act, then a-ok? | ScotTheDuck | 572 | 2024-07-01T14:48:06 | 5,044 |
lb4tqdu | 1dsupsh | The Supreme Court has just declared the US is a dictatorship.
An “official” criminal act exist in a civilized society.
The commander chief executive cannot be allowed to have that kind of power. | ExRays | 884 | 2024-07-01T14:48:10 | 5,046 |
lb4tqol | 1dsupsh | Would be nice if we could get the Supreme Court to read the actual Constitution. Because that is absolutely not what it says. | schad501 | 64 | 2024-07-01T14:48:13 | 5,048 |
lb4tqzf | 1dsupsh | Supreme Court showing their maga colors | Common_Highlight9448 | 25 | 2024-07-01T14:48:16 | 5,049 |
lb4tr9x | 1dsupsh | A small stone just dropped into the pit of my stomach. I hope it's just a seed of my heightened sense of justice (thanks ADHD I guess)... When is it enough? | billyjack669 | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:48:19 | 5,050 |
lb4trbh | 1dsupsh | This is pretty wild. The court is drunk and driving the country into a moat. | Secure_Plum7118 | 28 | 2024-07-01T14:48:19 | 5,051 |
lb4trv0 | 1dstc6q | The Supreme Court is a joke | EastPass3 | 18 | 2024-07-01T14:48:24 | 5,053 |
lb4ts4b | 1dstc6q | Me thinks Biden should issue some sort of official act that would seriously derail Trump's presidency.... | DMoneys36 | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:48:27 | 5,056 |
lb4tsf5 | 1dstc6q | >Justice Thomas writes a concurring opinion in which he questions the validity of Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. "If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."
Clarence doing his best to defeat Alito as the worst SCOTUS justice. | flyover_liberal | 16 | 2024-07-01T14:48:30 | 5,057 |
lb4tts0 | 1dsupsh | Americans are fucked | katsukare | 24 | 2024-07-01T14:48:43 | 5,063 |
lb4ttux | 1dsupsh | Sotomayor’s dissent sums it up perfectly….
Justice Sonia Sotomayor did not hold back in her dissent.
“Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today. Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.”
“Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.” | MadBullogna | 13,420 | 2024-07-01T14:48:44 | 5,064 |
lb4tui2 | 1dsupsh | How many fucking Ls have we taken this week? lol
All you can do is laugh folks. The end didn’t come in a war or military action but through our courts. | Listening_Heads | 180 | 2024-07-01T14:48:50 | 5,066 |
lb4tuoe | 1dsupsh | The crux of the implications, as per NBC News:
> At a minimum, there will be further proceedings before U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan to determine what, if any, of the other conduct alleged in the indictment is protected. Even if the new proceedings do not take much time, there is little chance for the trial to conclude before Election Day. | elguiridelocho | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:48:52 | 5,068 |
lb4tuy2 | 1dsupsh | So did they not even give a specific definition for “official act”? | AVideoGamer99 | 19 | 2024-07-01T14:48:55 | 5,070 |
lb4tvcu | 1dsupsh | If anyone thinks democrats would ever use this to help the American people you have not been paying attention for a fucking second. They will put their tail between their legs like they always fucking do and we will become a fascist theocracy | Miata_Sized_Schlong | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:48:58 | 5,072 |
lb4tvjg | 1dsupsh | Disgusting. | SwordfishII | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:49:00 | 5,073 |
lb4tw00 | 1dsupsh | Ok but how have they defined official vs unofficial acts? It feels like trying to overturn an election and refusing to return highly classified documents wouldn’t be an official act. | annacat1331 | 82 | 2024-07-01T14:49:04 | 5,075 |
lb4twoi | 1dstc6q | Justice Thomas writes a concurring opinion in which he questions the validity of Jack Smith's appointment as special counsel. "If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."
Democracy over. | mostrepublicanofall | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:49:11 | 5,077 |
lb4tx4s | 1dsupsh | Okay so Biden can officially declare Trump a domestic terrorist threat and take the appropriate action. | Mr9447737 | 4,315 | 2024-07-01T14:49:15 | 5,079 |
lb4txaw | 1dsupsh | To be clear, this doesn't change much for Trump's current legal predicaments.
His sentencing will still take place on the 11th for his state level conviction that has nothing to do with today's ruling.
The documents case and the Georgia case are still pending.
What this changes is the possibility of future charges for Jan 6. In order to bring charges, it will fall upon the prosecutor to show that his actions were not official Presidential actions, and that they are not covered by the limited immunity spelled out in this decision. | pmjm | 56 | 2024-07-01T14:49:17 | 5,080 |
lb4txet | 1dsupsh | “But her emails!” | itslikewoow | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:49:18 | 5,081 |
lb4tzjf | 1dsupsh | The bell is tolling, and it's time to stop ignoring it. You are looking at the birth of fascist America. Question is, what will America do about it? Will their be massive protests in the streets? Will our sitting president capitalize on this? How hard is America willing to fight while putting their own comforts on the back burner temporarily?
Or will we just let it all happen? | LuchaLutra | 808 | 2024-07-01T14:49:38 | 5,083 |
lb4tzxq | 1dsupsh | The supreme Court is anti democracy. | aeisenst | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:49:41 | 5,084 |
lb4u07o | 1dsupsh | So much for 'no one is above the law'. Pack SCOTUS with liberal justices to end this nonsense from them. Congress should make SCOTUS with term limits and elected. Enough with this rule decree from the bench by SIX FUCKING PEOPLE. | Wizard_Writa_Obscura | 24 | 2024-07-01T14:49:44 | 5,085 |
lb4u0cq | 1dstc6q | We need a law to bind the SC to the confines of the constitution. There is NO absolute immunity in the constitution. What happened to all the textualists? | itistemp | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:49:45 | 5,088 |
lb4u10e | 1dsupsh | Conservatives crying "Biden is using lawfare" and "Biden is sending FBI hit squads to Mar-a-lago" with one hand and then giving him the right to actually do so with the other. | TheBladeRoden | 1,161 | 2024-07-01T14:49:52 | 5,092 |
lb4u1oo | 1dsupsh | 6-3. That decision ratio seems to be happening quite a bit now. | JohnnyEagleClaw | 38 | 2024-07-01T14:49:58 | 5,096 |
lb4u1tc | 1dstc6q | Unofficial Act: Assassinating a political rival yourself.
Official Act: Tell Seal Team 6 to assassinate your political rival.
> Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate criminal law. -- Sotomayor | Infidel8 | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:50:00 | 5,098 |
lb4u2vy | 1dsupsh | Ok, Biden should go all out an jail Trump as an "official act".
Jesus Christ I hate this timeline | soccerdude2014 | 22 | 2024-07-01T14:50:10 | 5,103 |
lb4u353 | 1dsupsh | I gotta get the fuck outta this country | Sio_V_Reddit | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:50:12 | 5,104 |
lb4u3w8 | 1dsupsh | Lol why did you lot even fight the revolutionary war | Drolb | 21 | 2024-07-01T14:50:19 | 5,105 |
lb4u434 | 1dsupsh | So basically what everyone already knew.
What matters in this instance is the court said the defense has the right to appeal when a lower court rules on what is and isn't an official act. That means the Trump attorneys can tie this up in court for a long long time. | Poliwrath68 | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:50:21 | 5,107 |
lb4u4oq | 1dsupsh | SCOTUS is illegitimate. They want a constitutional crisis. | AnalSoapOpera | 16 | 2024-07-01T14:50:27 | 5,109 |
lb4u4t4 | 1dstc6q | Trump just posted the following on TS:
"Big win for our constitution and democracy!"
Trump will end our country as we know it if he is re-elected. | bengibbardstoothpain | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:50:28 | 5,110 |
lb4u4tp | 1dsupsh | Joe might as well go for the power grab while he's in office. Better him than Trump I suppose. | Secure_Plum7118 | 18 | 2024-07-01T14:50:28 | 5,111 |
lb4u4ue | 1dsupsh | It's more important than ever to vote in November. Sure Biden's old, but he and his team are pro America. Trump should be no where near any office again. The next president will likely replace some of the SC justices too. We are literally voting to save America. Trump and his more knowledgeable than him team are going to enact project 2025 and we will not have rights anymore. We will not have a country anymore. | Designer-Contract852 | 29 | 2024-07-01T14:50:28 | 5,112 |
lb4u5c7 | 1dsuh7z | Gretchen is the future. | faith_apnea | 15 | 2024-07-01T14:50:33 | 5,115 |
lb4u5m9 | 1dsupsh | A President can do ANYTHING now. They’re ALL free from criminal prosecution | PowerBrick99 | 12 | 2024-07-01T14:50:36 | 5,117 |
lb4u5y2 | 1dsupsh | Fuck this country. | EmptyStar12 | 13 | 2024-07-01T14:50:39 | 5,120 |
lb4u684 | 1dstc6q | The argument that the courts cannot inquire into motives in determining "official" and "unofficial" acts is patently stupid, as is the subsequent argument that the president shall have or should have any kind of role in elections (which is left "to the states" generally via constitutional mandate, and thus could hold no possible role in the president's "faithful carrying out of the law").
It's not quite as bad a decision as I was expecting it to be, as it does seem to follow Barrett's proposal of allowing acknowledged unofficial acts to proceed, though it does not allow any commentary regarding official acts--some lack of clarity here, but within reason. But it's still pretty bad.
Ultimately, the overturning of Chevron deference is a bigger long-term thing. If Trump is not reelected, the factor of a criminal president may with time become a historical curiosity, reserved to one fatuous and bloated slob. (If Trump is reelected, I strongly suspect their decision here wouldn't matter anyway.) For all the hay made about it, the change regarding the Jan. 6 charge is relatively unimportant.
But this one feels like the largest kick in the teeth to the intentions of the Founding Fathers. | AcademicPublius | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:50:42 | 5,123 |
lb4u688 | 1dsupsh | Sound like the GOP can’t come after Biden for Gaza or the border since they’re both official acts as president.
But Trump should be able to charged with trying to undermine the election, and withholding classified information from the government since those aren’t presidential or constitutional. | Cold-Yogurtcloset160 | 28 | 2024-07-01T14:50:42 | 5,124 |
lb4u6l0 | 1dsupsh | Biden should be on the phone with Seal Team 6 right about now. | QanonQuinoa | 18 | 2024-07-01T14:50:45 | 5,125 |
lb4u6lj | 1dstc6q | So Biden can just drone strike Trump now, right? | edgyasallheck | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:50:45 | 5,126 |
lb4u78j | 1dstc6q | Does this allow Biden to order an assassination against his political rival (aka Donald trump) considering it would be an official act? | BustingBrig | 14 | 2024-07-01T14:50:51 | 5,130 |
lb4u7d4 | 1dsupsh | From my understanding it kinda breaks down like this:
Using DoJ to create and announce sham investigation and threatening to fire them if they don't - **Absolute** **Immunity**
Asking Pence to Illegally use knowningly fake electors - **Pressumed Immune**, but immunity can be overturned? but lower court to need to rule then can be appealed to SCOTUS again
Talking to non Executive Branch people - **Determine if an official or unoffical act and then can be appealed**
Telling crowd to storm the capital - **Determine if an official or unoffical act and then can be appealed**
Can't be Tried unless impeached - **Nope** "Transforming the political process of impeachment into a necessary step in the enforcement of criminal law finds little support in the text of the Constitution or the structure of the Nation’s Government."
Summary quote from the end:
"The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official. The President is not above the law. But under our system of separated powers, the President may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for his official acts. " | Waylander0719 | 17 | 2024-07-01T14:50:53 | 5,132 |
lb4u7km | 1dsupsh | Biden really needs to do something off the wall and whacky and immediately test this | GarbDogArmy | 25 | 2024-07-01T14:50:55 | 5,133 |
lb4u8gi | 1dsupsh | God. We are fucked | d_mcc_x | 11 | 2024-07-01T14:51:03 | 5,136 |
lb4u9k1 | 1dstc6q | According to the Supreme Court Biden can order assassinations of his opponent now. | orangesunshine78 | 20 | 2024-07-01T14:51:13 | 5,144 |
lb4u9vj | 1dsupsh | Ok Joe, add 5 more judges to the court and call it an official act. | InSicily1912 | 1,028 | 2024-07-01T14:51:16 | 5,145 |
lb4u9wk | 1dsupsh | The Supreme Court is not on the side of the American people.
If you're in a swing state, you better vote like your families and your life depends on it. | Fritz1818 | 45 | 2024-07-01T14:51:16 | 5,146 |
lb4u9ym | 1dstc6q | It's over. The Republic died at the sound of the SC's gavel today. Biden will save us though. Make sure you vote Blue NO MATTER WHO! | BonaldTrumps | 18 | 2024-07-01T14:51:17 | 5,147 |
lb4uacq | 1dsupsh | I wonder if CNN will immediately call on the court to step down for the good of the country like they did to Biden after debate. Hmmmm…. /s | Fluffy-Scheme-5982 | 26 | 2024-07-01T14:51:20 | 5,150 |
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