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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubjiii
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Your employer is not allowed to do this. They should be indemnifying you if this action is being taken by someone else (e.g. the auto insurance.) File a workers compensation claim with an attorney. Your attorney will also know the Labor Code which prohibits this bullshit. See, generally, An employer may not deduct for cash shortage, breakage, or equipment loss unless caused by the employee's gross negligence, or dishonest or willful act . An employer may deduct from a final paycheck the cost of a uniform, tools, or equipment not returned by a terminated employee within a reasonable time, if the employee gave the employer prior, written authorization to do so and if the employer can show that the employee committed theft or was negligently responsible for the loss. Defining “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The California Department of Industrial Relations and court decisions have narrowly interpreted the terms “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The Department has explained that while a deduction may be legal if the employer proves that the loss resulted from the employee's dishonesty, willfulness, or grossly negligent act, a simple accusation does not give the employer the right to make the deduction. The Division of Labor Standards Enforcement (DLSE) has cautioned that use of this deduction may, in fact, not comply with the provisions of the California Labor Code and various California court decisions. Furthermore, DLSE will not automatically assume that an employee was dishonest, acted willfully or was grossly negligent based on an employer's assertion to justify making a deduction from an employee's wages to cover a shortage, breakage, or loss to property or equipment. According to DLSE, “[t]he Labor Code clearly prohibits any deduction from an employee's wages which is not either authorized by the employee in writing or permitted by law, and any employer who resorts to self-help does so at its own risk as an objective test is applied to determine whether the loss was due to dishonesty, willfulness, or a grossly negligent act. If an employer makes such a deduction and it is later determined that the employee was not guilty of a dishonest or willful act, or grossly negligent, the employee would be entitled to recover the amount of the wages withheld. Additionally, if the employee no longer works for the employer who made the deduction and it's decided that the deduction was wrongful, the employee may also be able to recover the waiting time penalty.” The Department has also observed that “'gross negligence' has been defined as an extreme departure from the ordinary standard of conduct, as an entire failure to exercise care, as the exercise of so slight a degree of care as to justify the belief that there was an indifference to the interest and welfare of others, and as that want of care that raises a presumption of conscious indifference to consequences. A determination of gross negligence is a legal conclusion that can only be arrived at by a court of law .” (Emphasis added.) Thus, depending on the circumstances of the loss or damage, an employee's negligent or intentional misconduct may not constitute gross negligence, or a dishonest or willful act for purposes of the law.
Try making some phone calls to your employer and the insurance company to see if you can get things straightened out quickly. But if you hit a brick wall, it's time to get an attorney involved. Don't let this go too long...
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubjaou
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It is time to get a lawyer involved. You are injured and trying to heal. You cannot spend the time and energy on this problem any longer and your employer seems to be unhelpful. Sometimes hiring a lawyer is all it takes for someone to get serious and actually take a good look into the situation. I'm curious, did you get any settlements for your injuries and lost wages? Start polishing your resume and networking. You should probably find a new company to work for. Good luck.
Your employer is not allowed to do this. They should be indemnifying you if this action is being taken by someone else (e.g. the auto insurance.) File a workers compensation claim with an attorney. Your attorney will also know the Labor Code which prohibits this bullshit. See, generally, An employer may not deduct for cash shortage, breakage, or equipment loss unless caused by the employee's gross negligence, or dishonest or willful act . An employer may deduct from a final paycheck the cost of a uniform, tools, or equipment not returned by a terminated employee within a reasonable time, if the employee gave the employer prior, written authorization to do so and if the employer can show that the employee committed theft or was negligently responsible for the loss. Defining “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The California Department of Industrial Relations and court decisions have narrowly interpreted the terms “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The Department has explained that while a deduction may be legal if the employer proves that the loss resulted from the employee's dishonesty, willfulness, or grossly negligent act, a simple accusation does not give the employer the right to make the deduction. The Division of Labor Standards Enforcement (DLSE) has cautioned that use of this deduction may, in fact, not comply with the provisions of the California Labor Code and various California court decisions. Furthermore, DLSE will not automatically assume that an employee was dishonest, acted willfully or was grossly negligent based on an employer's assertion to justify making a deduction from an employee's wages to cover a shortage, breakage, or loss to property or equipment. According to DLSE, “[t]he Labor Code clearly prohibits any deduction from an employee's wages which is not either authorized by the employee in writing or permitted by law, and any employer who resorts to self-help does so at its own risk as an objective test is applied to determine whether the loss was due to dishonesty, willfulness, or a grossly negligent act. If an employer makes such a deduction and it is later determined that the employee was not guilty of a dishonest or willful act, or grossly negligent, the employee would be entitled to recover the amount of the wages withheld. Additionally, if the employee no longer works for the employer who made the deduction and it's decided that the deduction was wrongful, the employee may also be able to recover the waiting time penalty.” The Department has also observed that “'gross negligence' has been defined as an extreme departure from the ordinary standard of conduct, as an entire failure to exercise care, as the exercise of so slight a degree of care as to justify the belief that there was an indifference to the interest and welfare of others, and as that want of care that raises a presumption of conscious indifference to consequences. A determination of gross negligence is a legal conclusion that can only be arrived at by a court of law .” (Emphasis added.) Thus, depending on the circumstances of the loss or damage, an employee's negligent or intentional misconduct may not constitute gross negligence, or a dishonest or willful act for purposes of the law.
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubjiii
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Your employer is not allowed to do this. They should be indemnifying you if this action is being taken by someone else (e.g. the auto insurance.) File a workers compensation claim with an attorney. Your attorney will also know the Labor Code which prohibits this bullshit. See, generally, An employer may not deduct for cash shortage, breakage, or equipment loss unless caused by the employee's gross negligence, or dishonest or willful act . An employer may deduct from a final paycheck the cost of a uniform, tools, or equipment not returned by a terminated employee within a reasonable time, if the employee gave the employer prior, written authorization to do so and if the employer can show that the employee committed theft or was negligently responsible for the loss. Defining “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The California Department of Industrial Relations and court decisions have narrowly interpreted the terms “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The Department has explained that while a deduction may be legal if the employer proves that the loss resulted from the employee's dishonesty, willfulness, or grossly negligent act, a simple accusation does not give the employer the right to make the deduction. The Division of Labor Standards Enforcement (DLSE) has cautioned that use of this deduction may, in fact, not comply with the provisions of the California Labor Code and various California court decisions. Furthermore, DLSE will not automatically assume that an employee was dishonest, acted willfully or was grossly negligent based on an employer's assertion to justify making a deduction from an employee's wages to cover a shortage, breakage, or loss to property or equipment. According to DLSE, “[t]he Labor Code clearly prohibits any deduction from an employee's wages which is not either authorized by the employee in writing or permitted by law, and any employer who resorts to self-help does so at its own risk as an objective test is applied to determine whether the loss was due to dishonesty, willfulness, or a grossly negligent act. If an employer makes such a deduction and it is later determined that the employee was not guilty of a dishonest or willful act, or grossly negligent, the employee would be entitled to recover the amount of the wages withheld. Additionally, if the employee no longer works for the employer who made the deduction and it's decided that the deduction was wrongful, the employee may also be able to recover the waiting time penalty.” The Department has also observed that “'gross negligence' has been defined as an extreme departure from the ordinary standard of conduct, as an entire failure to exercise care, as the exercise of so slight a degree of care as to justify the belief that there was an indifference to the interest and welfare of others, and as that want of care that raises a presumption of conscious indifference to consequences. A determination of gross negligence is a legal conclusion that can only be arrived at by a court of law .” (Emphasis added.) Thus, depending on the circumstances of the loss or damage, an employee's negligent or intentional misconduct may not constitute gross negligence, or a dishonest or willful act for purposes of the law.
Were you permitted to drive the car at the time of the accident?
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubja6y
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Is it possible they are anticipating you will get a civil settlement and want to try to benefit?
Your employer is not allowed to do this. They should be indemnifying you if this action is being taken by someone else (e.g. the auto insurance.) File a workers compensation claim with an attorney. Your attorney will also know the Labor Code which prohibits this bullshit. See, generally, An employer may not deduct for cash shortage, breakage, or equipment loss unless caused by the employee's gross negligence, or dishonest or willful act . An employer may deduct from a final paycheck the cost of a uniform, tools, or equipment not returned by a terminated employee within a reasonable time, if the employee gave the employer prior, written authorization to do so and if the employer can show that the employee committed theft or was negligently responsible for the loss. Defining “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The California Department of Industrial Relations and court decisions have narrowly interpreted the terms “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The Department has explained that while a deduction may be legal if the employer proves that the loss resulted from the employee's dishonesty, willfulness, or grossly negligent act, a simple accusation does not give the employer the right to make the deduction. The Division of Labor Standards Enforcement (DLSE) has cautioned that use of this deduction may, in fact, not comply with the provisions of the California Labor Code and various California court decisions. Furthermore, DLSE will not automatically assume that an employee was dishonest, acted willfully or was grossly negligent based on an employer's assertion to justify making a deduction from an employee's wages to cover a shortage, breakage, or loss to property or equipment. According to DLSE, “[t]he Labor Code clearly prohibits any deduction from an employee's wages which is not either authorized by the employee in writing or permitted by law, and any employer who resorts to self-help does so at its own risk as an objective test is applied to determine whether the loss was due to dishonesty, willfulness, or a grossly negligent act. If an employer makes such a deduction and it is later determined that the employee was not guilty of a dishonest or willful act, or grossly negligent, the employee would be entitled to recover the amount of the wages withheld. Additionally, if the employee no longer works for the employer who made the deduction and it's decided that the deduction was wrongful, the employee may also be able to recover the waiting time penalty.” The Department has also observed that “'gross negligence' has been defined as an extreme departure from the ordinary standard of conduct, as an entire failure to exercise care, as the exercise of so slight a degree of care as to justify the belief that there was an indifference to the interest and welfare of others, and as that want of care that raises a presumption of conscious indifference to consequences. A determination of gross negligence is a legal conclusion that can only be arrived at by a court of law .” (Emphasis added.) Thus, depending on the circumstances of the loss or damage, an employee's negligent or intentional misconduct may not constitute gross negligence, or a dishonest or willful act for purposes of the law.
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubjiii
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Your employer is not allowed to do this. They should be indemnifying you if this action is being taken by someone else (e.g. the auto insurance.) File a workers compensation claim with an attorney. Your attorney will also know the Labor Code which prohibits this bullshit. See, generally, An employer may not deduct for cash shortage, breakage, or equipment loss unless caused by the employee's gross negligence, or dishonest or willful act . An employer may deduct from a final paycheck the cost of a uniform, tools, or equipment not returned by a terminated employee within a reasonable time, if the employee gave the employer prior, written authorization to do so and if the employer can show that the employee committed theft or was negligently responsible for the loss. Defining “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The California Department of Industrial Relations and court decisions have narrowly interpreted the terms “gross negligence” and “willful or dishonest acts.” The Department has explained that while a deduction may be legal if the employer proves that the loss resulted from the employee's dishonesty, willfulness, or grossly negligent act, a simple accusation does not give the employer the right to make the deduction. The Division of Labor Standards Enforcement (DLSE) has cautioned that use of this deduction may, in fact, not comply with the provisions of the California Labor Code and various California court decisions. Furthermore, DLSE will not automatically assume that an employee was dishonest, acted willfully or was grossly negligent based on an employer's assertion to justify making a deduction from an employee's wages to cover a shortage, breakage, or loss to property or equipment. According to DLSE, “[t]he Labor Code clearly prohibits any deduction from an employee's wages which is not either authorized by the employee in writing or permitted by law, and any employer who resorts to self-help does so at its own risk as an objective test is applied to determine whether the loss was due to dishonesty, willfulness, or a grossly negligent act. If an employer makes such a deduction and it is later determined that the employee was not guilty of a dishonest or willful act, or grossly negligent, the employee would be entitled to recover the amount of the wages withheld. Additionally, if the employee no longer works for the employer who made the deduction and it's decided that the deduction was wrongful, the employee may also be able to recover the waiting time penalty.” The Department has also observed that “'gross negligence' has been defined as an extreme departure from the ordinary standard of conduct, as an entire failure to exercise care, as the exercise of so slight a degree of care as to justify the belief that there was an indifference to the interest and welfare of others, and as that want of care that raises a presumption of conscious indifference to consequences. A determination of gross negligence is a legal conclusion that can only be arrived at by a court of law .” (Emphasis added.) Thus, depending on the circumstances of the loss or damage, an employee's negligent or intentional misconduct may not constitute gross negligence, or a dishonest or willful act for purposes of the law.
What, approximately, was the value of the car when it was totaled? Was it a high-end or specialty vehicle? It may that the other driver's insurance settled for the policy maximum and they're coming after you for the rest.
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cub9dka
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Were you permitted to drive the car at the time of the accident?
Try making some phone calls to your employer and the insurance company to see if you can get things straightened out quickly. But if you hit a brick wall, it's time to get an attorney involved. Don't let this go too long...
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubja6y
cubjaou
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Is it possible they are anticipating you will get a civil settlement and want to try to benefit?
It is time to get a lawyer involved. You are injured and trying to heal. You cannot spend the time and energy on this problem any longer and your employer seems to be unhelpful. Sometimes hiring a lawyer is all it takes for someone to get serious and actually take a good look into the situation. I'm curious, did you get any settlements for your injuries and lost wages? Start polishing your resume and networking. You should probably find a new company to work for. Good luck.
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubgigc
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What, approximately, was the value of the car when it was totaled? Was it a high-end or specialty vehicle? It may that the other driver's insurance settled for the policy maximum and they're coming after you for the rest.
It is time to get a lawyer involved. You are injured and trying to heal. You cannot spend the time and energy on this problem any longer and your employer seems to be unhelpful. Sometimes hiring a lawyer is all it takes for someone to get serious and actually take a good look into the situation. I'm curious, did you get any settlements for your injuries and lost wages? Start polishing your resume and networking. You should probably find a new company to work for. Good luck.
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubja6y
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Is it possible they are anticipating you will get a civil settlement and want to try to benefit?
Is your company a large one? This sounds like miscommunication in the company. Lawyer accepts $40,000 check and doesnt inform HR or HR forgets to input it in the system. For now, handle it with the collection agency. If possible have the other insurance send you an invoice or receipt stating they paid the company so you can show to the collection agency. Next contact HR and present them the forms you have (word of mouth is unreliable in these situations). You may have to threaten HR with legal action if they dont fix everything, a bad credit score does damage you financially.
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
cubgigc
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What, approximately, was the value of the car when it was totaled? Was it a high-end or specialty vehicle? It may that the other driver's insurance settled for the policy maximum and they're coming after you for the rest.
Is your company a large one? This sounds like miscommunication in the company. Lawyer accepts $40,000 check and doesnt inform HR or HR forgets to input it in the system. For now, handle it with the collection agency. If possible have the other insurance send you an invoice or receipt stating they paid the company so you can show to the collection agency. Next contact HR and present them the forms you have (word of mouth is unreliable in these situations). You may have to threaten HR with legal action if they dont fix everything, a bad credit score does damage you financially.
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Company car I was driving was hit by a drunk driver. Insurance fully paid for the car but the company says I still owe them $40,000 [CA] I was on my way home from work in my company car when I was hit almost head on by a drunk driver. He was found at fault by the police and the insurance company and was charged and convicted. His insurance settled with the company and gave them a payout to replace the car, which the company lawyer accepted. I am still off work recovering from my injuries and I probably won't be back for 3 more months. Last month I received a letter from the company stating that I owed them the cost of the car because I was the one responsible for it when it was totaled and written off. I thought it was mistake or something so I called the insurance company, got written confirmation of the settlement and sent it into them with a note that the car had already been paid for by the insurance company. Now they have sent me to a collection agency and I have debt collectors calling saying I owe $40,000. I live in California. Do I call the insurance company to let them know or do I need to get a lawyer? Is them calling the debt collector even legal? Sorry if these questions are stupid, but I am already stressed enough from trying to recover and this has just made it worse.
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What, approximately, was the value of the car when it was totaled? Was it a high-end or specialty vehicle? It may that the other driver's insurance settled for the policy maximum and they're coming after you for the rest.
Is it possible they are anticipating you will get a civil settlement and want to try to benefit?
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Motorcycle fell off a tow truck, I and 4 others hit, insurance says they're are not liable as driver was off duty while driving company tow truck. Are they're any known exceptions to fight this claim or am I SOL...
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Were you driving a car when hit? If so, you can claim with your own insurance, and the insurance companies can duke it out amongst themselves.
Insurance underwriter here, who writes tow trucks. Depending on the state, they probably need state filings (with the DMV) that would protect you for their liability regardless of whether the actual policy had an exclusion if they were "off duty." Your insurance carrier should help you navigate the issue. Additionally, even if the insurance company says they are not liable, the tow company still could be. You would have to sue them. (Theoretically, this is what your insurance should do)
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Motorcycle fell off a tow truck, I and 4 others hit, insurance says they're are not liable as driver was off duty while driving company tow truck. Are they're any known exceptions to fight this claim or am I SOL...
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Insurance underwriter here, who writes tow trucks. Depending on the state, they probably need state filings (with the DMV) that would protect you for their liability regardless of whether the actual policy had an exclusion if they were "off duty." Your insurance carrier should help you navigate the issue. Additionally, even if the insurance company says they are not liable, the tow company still could be. You would have to sue them. (Theoretically, this is what your insurance should do)
Not a lawyer. Do you have insurance that would cover this? If so, put them to work, this is what you pay them for. If not, if they refuse to compensate, consult an attorney. The attorney can send a letter stating your intention to sue and if you're lucky the responsible party will actually negotiate a settlement. If not, you'll likely be sueing the driver, the tow company, and the insurance company, or some combination as deemed appropriate by your attorney, and have the situation sorted in court.
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Motorcycle fell off a tow truck, I and 4 others hit, insurance says they're are not liable as driver was off duty while driving company tow truck. Are they're any known exceptions to fight this claim or am I SOL...
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Not a lawyer. Do you have insurance that would cover this? If so, put them to work, this is what you pay them for. If not, if they refuse to compensate, consult an attorney. The attorney can send a letter stating your intention to sue and if you're lucky the responsible party will actually negotiate a settlement. If not, you'll likely be sueing the driver, the tow company, and the insurance company, or some combination as deemed appropriate by your attorney, and have the situation sorted in court.
Were you driving a car when hit? If so, you can claim with your own insurance, and the insurance companies can duke it out amongst themselves.
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Motorcycle fell off a tow truck, I and 4 others hit, insurance says they're are not liable as driver was off duty while driving company tow truck. Are they're any known exceptions to fight this claim or am I SOL...
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You really have two options. File a claim with your own insurance and let them sort it out. File a lawsuit naming the company and the driver and let the court decide who's liable. You don't say what your damages are (property damage, injury, or whatever), so it's hard to say which might be the better option.
Not a lawyer. Do you have insurance that would cover this? If so, put them to work, this is what you pay them for. If not, if they refuse to compensate, consult an attorney. The attorney can send a letter stating your intention to sue and if you're lucky the responsible party will actually negotiate a settlement. If not, you'll likely be sueing the driver, the tow company, and the insurance company, or some combination as deemed appropriate by your attorney, and have the situation sorted in court.
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Motorcycle fell off a tow truck, I and 4 others hit, insurance says they're are not liable as driver was off duty while driving company tow truck. Are they're any known exceptions to fight this claim or am I SOL...
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Not a lawyer. Do you have insurance that would cover this? If so, put them to work, this is what you pay them for. If not, if they refuse to compensate, consult an attorney. The attorney can send a letter stating your intention to sue and if you're lucky the responsible party will actually negotiate a settlement. If not, you'll likely be sueing the driver, the tow company, and the insurance company, or some combination as deemed appropriate by your attorney, and have the situation sorted in court.
This isn’t how insurance even works. These insurance companies are lying to you. They tried to pull this shit on me. If you want to get them to do their job you always have to threaten to speak with your lawyer. ALWAYS bring up a lawyer.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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It doesn't matter that he's not doing this on duty. He's using his authority as a police officer to attempt to fuck with you, and you can absolutely file a formal complaint over that. Since he's already implied that he'd manufacture evidence or lie under oath regarding your activities I'd do so sooner rather than later, and include everything about the document nonsense.
File a formal complaint with his police department
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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It doesn't matter that he's not doing this on duty. He's using his authority as a police officer to attempt to fuck with you, and you can absolutely file a formal complaint over that. Since he's already implied that he'd manufacture evidence or lie under oath regarding your activities I'd do so sooner rather than later, and include everything about the document nonsense.
Yes. You can file a complaint with his supervisor. If it continues, I'd get a consultation with an attorney.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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It doesn't matter that he's not doing this on duty. He's using his authority as a police officer to attempt to fuck with you, and you can absolutely file a formal complaint over that. Since he's already implied that he'd manufacture evidence or lie under oath regarding your activities I'd do so sooner rather than later, and include everything about the document nonsense.
- Install security cameras. Thatd help provide evidence just in case he actually tries to arrest you using false evidence.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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It doesn't matter that he's not doing this on duty. He's using his authority as a police officer to attempt to fuck with you, and you can absolutely file a formal complaint over that. Since he's already implied that he'd manufacture evidence or lie under oath regarding your activities I'd do so sooner rather than later, and include everything about the document nonsense.
File a formal complaint with his supervisor to begin. If the harassment continues, it may be in your interest to speak to a civil rights attorney.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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It doesn't matter that he's not doing this on duty. He's using his authority as a police officer to attempt to fuck with you, and you can absolutely file a formal complaint over that. Since he's already implied that he'd manufacture evidence or lie under oath regarding your activities I'd do so sooner rather than later, and include everything about the document nonsense.
> being a jobsworth, > didn’t like the cut of my jib. I like you. You can call his station and lodge a compliant and I would advise you do so.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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- Install security cameras. Thatd help provide evidence just in case he actually tries to arrest you using false evidence.
I believe NC is a one-party state, which means you can record any conversation you're involved in without notifying the other party. Unless I'm mistaken, this means you can use the voice recorder app on your phone the next time this cop or any of your neighbors come around to threaten you.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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File a formal complaint with his supervisor to begin. If the harassment continues, it may be in your interest to speak to a civil rights attorney.
I believe NC is a one-party state, which means you can record any conversation you're involved in without notifying the other party. Unless I'm mistaken, this means you can use the voice recorder app on your phone the next time this cop or any of your neighbors come around to threaten you.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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I believe NC is a one-party state, which means you can record any conversation you're involved in without notifying the other party. Unless I'm mistaken, this means you can use the voice recorder app on your phone the next time this cop or any of your neighbors come around to threaten you.
> being a jobsworth, > didn’t like the cut of my jib. I like you. You can call his station and lodge a compliant and I would advise you do so.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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- Install security cameras. Thatd help provide evidence just in case he actually tries to arrest you using false evidence.
File a formal complaint with his supervisor to begin. If the harassment continues, it may be in your interest to speak to a civil rights attorney.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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- Install security cameras. Thatd help provide evidence just in case he actually tries to arrest you using false evidence.
> being a jobsworth, > didn’t like the cut of my jib. I like you. You can call his station and lodge a compliant and I would advise you do so.
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File a formal complaint with his supervisor to begin. If the harassment continues, it may be in your interest to speak to a civil rights attorney.
Put a camera on the front of your house. Maybe two if needed to cover your garden and car area. There are a ton of options on amazon, and they're pretty user friendly now. Now you have proof of what you've been doing and when you have been doing it. And any time any neighbor talks to while you are in the front yard, you have documentation. So if the harassment continues you have evidence to show. And if they escalate and do anything to your home and car, you will know who to report. This situation sucks. Definitely cover yourself as much as possible.
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Put a camera on the front of your house. Maybe two if needed to cover your garden and car area. There are a ton of options on amazon, and they're pretty user friendly now. Now you have proof of what you've been doing and when you have been doing it. And any time any neighbor talks to while you are in the front yard, you have documentation. So if the harassment continues you have evidence to show. And if they escalate and do anything to your home and car, you will know who to report. This situation sucks. Definitely cover yourself as much as possible.
> being a jobsworth, > didn’t like the cut of my jib. I like you. You can call his station and lodge a compliant and I would advise you do so.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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Put a camera on the front of your house. Maybe two if needed to cover your garden and car area. There are a ton of options on amazon, and they're pretty user friendly now. Now you have proof of what you've been doing and when you have been doing it. And any time any neighbor talks to while you are in the front yard, you have documentation. So if the harassment continues you have evidence to show. And if they escalate and do anything to your home and car, you will know who to report. This situation sucks. Definitely cover yourself as much as possible.
Looks like you're being harassed based on your nationality. You can file a formal complaint and contact a civil rights lawyer.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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Put a camera on the front of your house. Maybe two if needed to cover your garden and car area. There are a ton of options on amazon, and they're pretty user friendly now. Now you have proof of what you've been doing and when you have been doing it. And any time any neighbor talks to while you are in the front yard, you have documentation. So if the harassment continues you have evidence to show. And if they escalate and do anything to your home and car, you will know who to report. This situation sucks. Definitely cover yourself as much as possible.
I recommend installing outside security cameras to record any interactions. Check local regulations whether sound can be recorded or not.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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> being a jobsworth, > didn’t like the cut of my jib. I like you. You can call his station and lodge a compliant and I would advise you do so.
File a formal complaint with his supervisor to begin. If the harassment continues, it may be in your interest to speak to a civil rights attorney.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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I am not a lawyer I would absolutely file a complaint with this officer's supervisor. I would also approach this from a different angle. Not everyone in small towns in North Carolina are like the two people in your story. Most of them are friendly, reasonable people. In the U.S., people who move to a new area often throw something called a housewarming party. You invite your new neighbors over to your house and serve light refreshments as kind of a "get to know you" event. You don't have to invite the whole neighborhood, but inviting the neighbors within 2-3 houses of yours and across the street will give people a chance to meet you and will possibly give you new acquaintances who can help deter the behavior you've seen to date. EDIT: OP, you need to learn to use the phrase "well, bless your heart". In the south, it's the polite way of saying the person you are addressing is acting inappropriately. Depending on the inflection you use, it can also be construed as a polite way to say "fuck off" or "you're mentally challenged, aren't you?"
I recommend installing outside security cameras to record any interactions. Check local regulations whether sound can be recorded or not.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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This sounds like the twilight zone. Install outside Cameras and keep a log of every interaction.
Besides the formal complaint with his precinct, please buy some cameras and install them. There's a lot of easy self install ones you can find and do yourself that will record and save files locally so you can easily access them and copy them physically. I'd make sure they have audio recording as well since these instances appear to happen right outside your house. I'd also consider at least one camera indoors on your first floor, God forbid this shit escalates. I'm sorry this is happening to you, I hope something happens with the complaint you're filing!
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Besides the formal complaint with his precinct, please buy some cameras and install them. There's a lot of easy self install ones you can find and do yourself that will record and save files locally so you can easily access them and copy them physically. I'd make sure they have audio recording as well since these instances appear to happen right outside your house. I'd also consider at least one camera indoors on your first floor, God forbid this shit escalates. I'm sorry this is happening to you, I hope something happens with the complaint you're filing!
I recommend installing outside security cameras to record any interactions. Check local regulations whether sound can be recorded or not.
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This sounds like the twilight zone. Install outside Cameras and keep a log of every interaction.
Pretty much never invite an officer into your home, or search anything -- nothing to gain. As others have mentioned, record interactions going forward and file a complaint against the officer. Bonus points for installing a security camera out front.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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As others have said, file a formal complaint. As you said this is a small town, I would email the Chief/captain/sergeant--whomever takes the complaint--a brief thank you for taking your statement and attach a written statement on what has happened "for their records" this covers your ass in case they decide to "lose" the complaint. you could also take a recording device in when you go to file the complaint. Their are audio recording apps that run in the back ground where it looks like nothing is being used on your phone until you open the app. GET A CAMERA FOR THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. You can even use an old phone if you need a cheap route. Apps like Alfred turn them into recording devices. Just have something to record you while you are outfront in case this guy decides to lie that you attacked him or something else next time you are gardening.
Pretty much never invite an officer into your home, or search anything -- nothing to gain. As others have mentioned, record interactions going forward and file a complaint against the officer. Bonus points for installing a security camera out front.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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I recommend installing outside security cameras to record any interactions. Check local regulations whether sound can be recorded or not.
Pretty much never invite an officer into your home, or search anything -- nothing to gain. As others have mentioned, record interactions going forward and file a complaint against the officer. Bonus points for installing a security camera out front.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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Pretty much never invite an officer into your home, or search anything -- nothing to gain. As others have mentioned, record interactions going forward and file a complaint against the officer. Bonus points for installing a security camera out front.
Time to install outward facing security cameras at your house. I have a feeling they will come in handy soon.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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This sounds like the twilight zone. Install outside Cameras and keep a log of every interaction.
As others have said, file a formal complaint. As you said this is a small town, I would email the Chief/captain/sergeant--whomever takes the complaint--a brief thank you for taking your statement and attach a written statement on what has happened "for their records" this covers your ass in case they decide to "lose" the complaint. you could also take a recording device in when you go to file the complaint. Their are audio recording apps that run in the back ground where it looks like nothing is being used on your phone until you open the app. GET A CAMERA FOR THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. You can even use an old phone if you need a cheap route. Apps like Alfred turn them into recording devices. Just have something to record you while you are outfront in case this guy decides to lie that you attacked him or something else next time you are gardening.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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I recommend installing outside security cameras to record any interactions. Check local regulations whether sound can be recorded or not.
This sounds like the twilight zone. Install outside Cameras and keep a log of every interaction.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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I recommend installing outside security cameras to record any interactions. Check local regulations whether sound can be recorded or not.
As others have said, file a formal complaint. As you said this is a small town, I would email the Chief/captain/sergeant--whomever takes the complaint--a brief thank you for taking your statement and attach a written statement on what has happened "for their records" this covers your ass in case they decide to "lose" the complaint. you could also take a recording device in when you go to file the complaint. Their are audio recording apps that run in the back ground where it looks like nothing is being used on your phone until you open the app. GET A CAMERA FOR THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. You can even use an old phone if you need a cheap route. Apps like Alfred turn them into recording devices. Just have something to record you while you are outfront in case this guy decides to lie that you attacked him or something else next time you are gardening.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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Sorry this is happening to you op. As others have stated file a report with the officers department and get cameras outside. I also suggest getting internal cameras and a security system incase he or someone else decides to break in and plant evidence and fabricate a reason to search. If you interact with him again when he's off duty I would recommend walking away from the situation and reporting it to the police right away that you are being harassed by an officer. If he is on duty I would stay put and call the police and do the same and state to the officer that you will not speak or interact with him without a lawyer present. If I remember correctly NC is a single party consent state for audio recording but I think that has to do with places that would be considered private. Record any and all interactions with him if you can have those backed up to secure offsite cloud storage. Hopefully this matter ends soon and you can live a happy enjoyable life here in the US without being constantly at fear of being harassed or assaulted by the actions of this officer. Congrats on residency here and don't let the one bad apple spoil the bunch for you. Not all officers and people are bad here.
Put camera's outside your house and record and save everything for 90 days or more. Write down each time he passes your house, especially if he does not need to drive by to go about his daily business Good luck
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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Sorry this is happening to you op. As others have stated file a report with the officers department and get cameras outside. I also suggest getting internal cameras and a security system incase he or someone else decides to break in and plant evidence and fabricate a reason to search. If you interact with him again when he's off duty I would recommend walking away from the situation and reporting it to the police right away that you are being harassed by an officer. If he is on duty I would stay put and call the police and do the same and state to the officer that you will not speak or interact with him without a lawyer present. If I remember correctly NC is a single party consent state for audio recording but I think that has to do with places that would be considered private. Record any and all interactions with him if you can have those backed up to secure offsite cloud storage. Hopefully this matter ends soon and you can live a happy enjoyable life here in the US without being constantly at fear of being harassed or assaulted by the actions of this officer. Congrats on residency here and don't let the one bad apple spoil the bunch for you. Not all officers and people are bad here.
Time to install outward facing security cameras at your house. I have a feeling they will come in handy soon.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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Put camera's outside your house and record and save everything for 90 days or more. Write down each time he passes your house, especially if he does not need to drive by to go about his daily business Good luck
Time to install outward facing security cameras at your house. I have a feeling they will come in handy soon.
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Got reported as being a suspicious individual after moving into a new area which led to an investigation after an officer claimed that my documentation is fake. Harassment has ensued - what do I do? I’ll try to be as brief as possible and stick to the facts. I moved into a new area at the end of last month. Specifically, I moved from Chicago to a small town outside of Charlotte, NC. This had been in the pipeline for several months as I was moving closer to be near family. Though I have made this move to be with family, I am living on my own. I moved into a quiet, residential area. It’s very suburbian, and there are not many solo residents in my age range (24 -39) living here. As a note, I am not African-American or of any other minority - I am a mid 20s white female. Almost immediately, I met one of my neighbors, who began interrogating me on who I was, why I was there, where I had come from and what I was doing etc. This wasn’t just a polite conversation, they were very clear in the fact that they did not believe that I belonged in the area. They asked me how I intended to pay my rent or mortgage since it did not appear like I had the means to based on the contents of my boxes, and very clearly pronounced that as a part of the local neighborhood watch, if anything were to happen in the near future then I would be their prime suspect. I brushed this all off as madness with a dash of being a jobsworth, and hoped to never hear from this person again. About a week after I moved in, I received a visit from a local police officer. He said that he had been called because I had supposedly been acting suspiciously around the neighborhood, such as peering into front windows and loitering outside people’s houses. The only time I had spent an extended period of time outside of my house was when I was tending to my front garden. I don’t want to automatically declare that it was the neighbor I’d originally met who had put the call in, but it highly likely that it was them. I invited the officer in to basically say that it was all lies because someone didn’t like the cut of my jib. An important point to make is that I am originally a British citizen. I came to America 7 years ago initially on a study visa, however quickly decided that I wanted to remain in America permanently. Through sponsorship from my first employer after graduating, I was able to gain my green card 3 years ago. In short, I am allowed to reside in the United States legally. Unsurprisingly, as soon as I started speaking, I was asked to prove my citizenship. I produced all of the relevant documentation, however almost immediately the officer said that he believed it was a forgery. He wouldn’t go into detail about why he believed this, but I was told that what had initially been a cautionary visit to dissuade me from ‘my actions’ had become an investigation into me possessing forged documents. I compiled, mainly more out of shock than anything else, and went with the officer to the local station. It became apparent very quickly that the officer had no leg to stand on. The first person I spoke to said that everything seemed legitimate, and joked that the officer who had brought me in was somewhat of an ICE-idoliser and was annoyed that the only crimes to happen in the area were petty thefts and the occasional incident of animal rustling. After another interview I was released with all of my documentation, and without any charge. That happened about two weeks ago. My situation now is that it has become apparent that the police officer who I initially met actually lives in my neighborhood. I first realised this when I was outside the front of my house and he was driving up the road. He pulled over, and said that if he was on-duty he’d arrest me for vandalising public property. I said that I was just in my garden, and he replied that I had no proof that I wasn’t standing somewhere else in the neighborhood and being aggressive, and that he could produce witnesses faster than I could even imagine. 4 - 5 more instances like this have occurred if I have been visible to him in the past two weeks. I know that this must be some kind of police harassment, but currently he has not approached me at all while he has been on duty. Am I still able to somehow report this?
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Time to install outward facing security cameras at your house. I have a feeling they will come in handy soon.
I'd contact the local ACLU chapter
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Law school student here. I drunkenly (and stupidly) told cops I was lawyer. Dean's office wants to meet with me. What do I do? I'm a 1L at a law school in Illinois. A couple weeks ago I was out at a bar with a large group of friends. We're still in undergrad mode and partied harder than we probably should have. As we walked to another bar, someone on the other side of the street started taunting our group. This didn't sit right with one of my close friends and he went to talk with the guy. They ended up getting into a fight in the middle of the street. Cops were nearby and started detaining both of them. In my drunken state, I was really upset at the cops for arresting my friend so I went to confront them and told the cops I was his lawyer and that they were making a huge mistake. When the cop asked for proof I stupidly gave him my law school ID. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't walk away right that moment. I backed down, but I didn't get my ID back. Now I've received a message from my school's dean about the incident. They want to meet with me early next week. What do I need to know in order to protect myself? What kind of things should I be prepared to defend myself with?
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OP, While this forum has the title "legal advice," most of the people posting here are not lawyers which does not stop them from giving out advice. I am an actual lawyer admitted to practice in New York. First, stop writing about this. Don't post on social media. You have no way of knowing who is reading. Stop talking about it at all. Next, you need legal advice. Maybe your school already has a legal clinic to which you could go but it any case, this calls for professional guidance from an attorney. You need to discuss with an attorney how to best minimize any actions taken by the school. I don't know what you actually told the officer and certainly not what the police told your law school. Much of this will determine what the law school decides to do. If the possibility exists of you being charged with a violation of your school's code of conduct, it is imperative to be represented by an attorney. If you wind up with any kind of law school discipline, even a reprimand, that will come up before the committee on character and fitness when you apply for admission to the bar. How seriously that is taken depends on the state. Finally, get this through your head: **You're not in college any longer!** Good luck!
Are you sure you want to be a lawyer? This is an extraordinarily bad way to start a career where a single casual lie will deprive you of your capacity to earn. I'm guessing you may have a loose relationship with ethics. Do you really want to get five years into a career only to have your lack of control result in a forced re-direction?
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Law school student here. I drunkenly (and stupidly) told cops I was lawyer. Dean's office wants to meet with me. What do I do? I'm a 1L at a law school in Illinois. A couple weeks ago I was out at a bar with a large group of friends. We're still in undergrad mode and partied harder than we probably should have. As we walked to another bar, someone on the other side of the street started taunting our group. This didn't sit right with one of my close friends and he went to talk with the guy. They ended up getting into a fight in the middle of the street. Cops were nearby and started detaining both of them. In my drunken state, I was really upset at the cops for arresting my friend so I went to confront them and told the cops I was his lawyer and that they were making a huge mistake. When the cop asked for proof I stupidly gave him my law school ID. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't walk away right that moment. I backed down, but I didn't get my ID back. Now I've received a message from my school's dean about the incident. They want to meet with me early next week. What do I need to know in order to protect myself? What kind of things should I be prepared to defend myself with?
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OP, While this forum has the title "legal advice," most of the people posting here are not lawyers which does not stop them from giving out advice. I am an actual lawyer admitted to practice in New York. First, stop writing about this. Don't post on social media. You have no way of knowing who is reading. Stop talking about it at all. Next, you need legal advice. Maybe your school already has a legal clinic to which you could go but it any case, this calls for professional guidance from an attorney. You need to discuss with an attorney how to best minimize any actions taken by the school. I don't know what you actually told the officer and certainly not what the police told your law school. Much of this will determine what the law school decides to do. If the possibility exists of you being charged with a violation of your school's code of conduct, it is imperative to be represented by an attorney. If you wind up with any kind of law school discipline, even a reprimand, that will come up before the committee on character and fitness when you apply for admission to the bar. How seriously that is taken depends on the state. Finally, get this through your head: **You're not in college any longer!** Good luck!
Stop drinking,
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Law school student here. I drunkenly (and stupidly) told cops I was lawyer. Dean's office wants to meet with me. What do I do? I'm a 1L at a law school in Illinois. A couple weeks ago I was out at a bar with a large group of friends. We're still in undergrad mode and partied harder than we probably should have. As we walked to another bar, someone on the other side of the street started taunting our group. This didn't sit right with one of my close friends and he went to talk with the guy. They ended up getting into a fight in the middle of the street. Cops were nearby and started detaining both of them. In my drunken state, I was really upset at the cops for arresting my friend so I went to confront them and told the cops I was his lawyer and that they were making a huge mistake. When the cop asked for proof I stupidly gave him my law school ID. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't walk away right that moment. I backed down, but I didn't get my ID back. Now I've received a message from my school's dean about the incident. They want to meet with me early next week. What do I need to know in order to protect myself? What kind of things should I be prepared to defend myself with?
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looks like you should have ... passed the bar
Are you sure you want to be a lawyer? This is an extraordinarily bad way to start a career where a single casual lie will deprive you of your capacity to earn. I'm guessing you may have a loose relationship with ethics. Do you really want to get five years into a career only to have your lack of control result in a forced re-direction?
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Law school student here. I drunkenly (and stupidly) told cops I was lawyer. Dean's office wants to meet with me. What do I do? I'm a 1L at a law school in Illinois. A couple weeks ago I was out at a bar with a large group of friends. We're still in undergrad mode and partied harder than we probably should have. As we walked to another bar, someone on the other side of the street started taunting our group. This didn't sit right with one of my close friends and he went to talk with the guy. They ended up getting into a fight in the middle of the street. Cops were nearby and started detaining both of them. In my drunken state, I was really upset at the cops for arresting my friend so I went to confront them and told the cops I was his lawyer and that they were making a huge mistake. When the cop asked for proof I stupidly gave him my law school ID. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't walk away right that moment. I backed down, but I didn't get my ID back. Now I've received a message from my school's dean about the incident. They want to meet with me early next week. What do I need to know in order to protect myself? What kind of things should I be prepared to defend myself with?
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Stop drinking,
looks like you should have ... passed the bar
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Law school student here. I drunkenly (and stupidly) told cops I was lawyer. Dean's office wants to meet with me. What do I do? I'm a 1L at a law school in Illinois. A couple weeks ago I was out at a bar with a large group of friends. We're still in undergrad mode and partied harder than we probably should have. As we walked to another bar, someone on the other side of the street started taunting our group. This didn't sit right with one of my close friends and he went to talk with the guy. They ended up getting into a fight in the middle of the street. Cops were nearby and started detaining both of them. In my drunken state, I was really upset at the cops for arresting my friend so I went to confront them and told the cops I was his lawyer and that they were making a huge mistake. When the cop asked for proof I stupidly gave him my law school ID. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't walk away right that moment. I backed down, but I didn't get my ID back. Now I've received a message from my school's dean about the incident. They want to meet with me early next week. What do I need to know in order to protect myself? What kind of things should I be prepared to defend myself with?
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Stop drinking,
Are you sure you want to be a lawyer? This is an extraordinarily bad way to start a career where a single casual lie will deprive you of your capacity to earn. I'm guessing you may have a loose relationship with ethics. Do you really want to get five years into a career only to have your lack of control result in a forced re-direction?
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Law school student here. I drunkenly (and stupidly) told cops I was lawyer. Dean's office wants to meet with me. What do I do? I'm a 1L at a law school in Illinois. A couple weeks ago I was out at a bar with a large group of friends. We're still in undergrad mode and partied harder than we probably should have. As we walked to another bar, someone on the other side of the street started taunting our group. This didn't sit right with one of my close friends and he went to talk with the guy. They ended up getting into a fight in the middle of the street. Cops were nearby and started detaining both of them. In my drunken state, I was really upset at the cops for arresting my friend so I went to confront them and told the cops I was his lawyer and that they were making a huge mistake. When the cop asked for proof I stupidly gave him my law school ID. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't walk away right that moment. I backed down, but I didn't get my ID back. Now I've received a message from my school's dean about the incident. They want to meet with me early next week. What do I need to know in order to protect myself? What kind of things should I be prepared to defend myself with?
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Boy did you screw up
If you want to graduate from law school and become admitted to any bar, you need to get a lawyer NOW who does professional responsibility and represents lawyers. Delete this post. Delete everyting you've put on social media about this. Get your friends to shut up. Ask them to take down stuff on social media. Shut up and do what your lawyer says. And if you can't afford a lawyer: you can't NOT afford one right now. Your future as a lawyer is in the balance.
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Law school student here. I drunkenly (and stupidly) told cops I was lawyer. Dean's office wants to meet with me. What do I do? I'm a 1L at a law school in Illinois. A couple weeks ago I was out at a bar with a large group of friends. We're still in undergrad mode and partied harder than we probably should have. As we walked to another bar, someone on the other side of the street started taunting our group. This didn't sit right with one of my close friends and he went to talk with the guy. They ended up getting into a fight in the middle of the street. Cops were nearby and started detaining both of them. In my drunken state, I was really upset at the cops for arresting my friend so I went to confront them and told the cops I was his lawyer and that they were making a huge mistake. When the cop asked for proof I stupidly gave him my law school ID. He threatened to arrest me if I didn't walk away right that moment. I backed down, but I didn't get my ID back. Now I've received a message from my school's dean about the incident. They want to meet with me early next week. What do I need to know in order to protect myself? What kind of things should I be prepared to defend myself with?
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My daughter's mother died this week.... I know as the father, I have full legal custody of my daughter now. Some back info..... In Virginia, my daughter is 11. We have had a custody agreement set for over a decade. I have had my daughter every other weekend and split on holidays for the duration of this decade. The mom and I have split joint legal custody with the mom having primary physical custody (again, me on weekends, holidays, etc.). I have never missed a child support payment and have always been on time. With the mom passing away four days ago, I am now the sole living biological parent. My concern is the step-dad. He's under the impression that he retains full custody and he's hostile to the situation. He's also been in my daughter's life since she was born and thought he was the father for the first year until I pursued a DNA test through the courts. I haven't attempted to get my daughter yet as I'll need to establish school, etc... but I know I'll run into a hostile situation. I have a meeting with a lawyer next to discuss options but I'm getting anxious and nervous. I just need advice.
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Virginia recognizes the natural parent's right to legal and physical custody of your daughter. However, Virginia also recognizes step-parent's rights to continue a relationship with your daughter for legitimate reasons, such as believing the child was his and being a large part of her life from birth to current. So you should definitely consult with an attorney. That said, I also encourage you to consider your daughter and how the tug of war will affect her emotionally and mentally, especially after the loss of her mother. She's old enough to have developed a strong bond with her mother, loosing her as she's entering puberty. A time a daughter really needs her mother. She will feel the loss of her mother at every major milestone of her life, for the rest of her life. What she needs are both of her fathers to reassure her of their love and support as she processes through her grief and loss. Stepdad is exhibiting hostility due to his real fears of losing who he believes to be his daughter while grieving the loss of his wife. If your daughter is not in danger (physically, mentally, or emotionally) with the other parent, which would require immediate change in custody,I encourage you to put your daughter's needs first. Ask yourself if you and the other step-parent can find a way to co-parent together for the sake of your daughter for a period of time, or a slow gradual shift towards majority custody and visitation. Yes, you will win in Court, but will you win your daughter's heart if you take her from her other dad, at a time she's already dealing with heartbreaking loss? I wish you all the best on your path to a healthy relationship together.
Remember to ask about stopping child support payments if it's deducted from your paycheck. The child is yours. It's sad for the stepfather, but he has no legal relationship with her since you didn't give up your rights.
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My daughter's mother died this week.... I know as the father, I have full legal custody of my daughter now. Some back info..... In Virginia, my daughter is 11. We have had a custody agreement set for over a decade. I have had my daughter every other weekend and split on holidays for the duration of this decade. The mom and I have split joint legal custody with the mom having primary physical custody (again, me on weekends, holidays, etc.). I have never missed a child support payment and have always been on time. With the mom passing away four days ago, I am now the sole living biological parent. My concern is the step-dad. He's under the impression that he retains full custody and he's hostile to the situation. He's also been in my daughter's life since she was born and thought he was the father for the first year until I pursued a DNA test through the courts. I haven't attempted to get my daughter yet as I'll need to establish school, etc... but I know I'll run into a hostile situation. I have a meeting with a lawyer next to discuss options but I'm getting anxious and nervous. I just need advice.
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Question 1): did Stepdad ever formally adopt your daughter? Or does he have any kind of court ordered guardianship or other custodial rights? Question 2): what state are you in? that could make a difference because some state common laws that have things like "step-parent exceptions" that can give them more rights without any kind of formal court action.
Virginia recognizes the natural parent's right to legal and physical custody of your daughter. However, Virginia also recognizes step-parent's rights to continue a relationship with your daughter for legitimate reasons, such as believing the child was his and being a large part of her life from birth to current. So you should definitely consult with an attorney. That said, I also encourage you to consider your daughter and how the tug of war will affect her emotionally and mentally, especially after the loss of her mother. She's old enough to have developed a strong bond with her mother, loosing her as she's entering puberty. A time a daughter really needs her mother. She will feel the loss of her mother at every major milestone of her life, for the rest of her life. What she needs are both of her fathers to reassure her of their love and support as she processes through her grief and loss. Stepdad is exhibiting hostility due to his real fears of losing who he believes to be his daughter while grieving the loss of his wife. If your daughter is not in danger (physically, mentally, or emotionally) with the other parent, which would require immediate change in custody,I encourage you to put your daughter's needs first. Ask yourself if you and the other step-parent can find a way to co-parent together for the sake of your daughter for a period of time, or a slow gradual shift towards majority custody and visitation. Yes, you will win in Court, but will you win your daughter's heart if you take her from her other dad, at a time she's already dealing with heartbreaking loss? I wish you all the best on your path to a healthy relationship together.
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My daughter's mother died this week.... I know as the father, I have full legal custody of my daughter now. Some back info..... In Virginia, my daughter is 11. We have had a custody agreement set for over a decade. I have had my daughter every other weekend and split on holidays for the duration of this decade. The mom and I have split joint legal custody with the mom having primary physical custody (again, me on weekends, holidays, etc.). I have never missed a child support payment and have always been on time. With the mom passing away four days ago, I am now the sole living biological parent. My concern is the step-dad. He's under the impression that he retains full custody and he's hostile to the situation. He's also been in my daughter's life since she was born and thought he was the father for the first year until I pursued a DNA test through the courts. I haven't attempted to get my daughter yet as I'll need to establish school, etc... but I know I'll run into a hostile situation. I have a meeting with a lawyer next to discuss options but I'm getting anxious and nervous. I just need advice.
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Question 1): did Stepdad ever formally adopt your daughter? Or does he have any kind of court ordered guardianship or other custodial rights? Question 2): what state are you in? that could make a difference because some state common laws that have things like "step-parent exceptions" that can give them more rights without any kind of formal court action.
Please follow the advice of the people here who tell you to sit down with the stepdad and decide what's in the best interests of your daughter.Consult a child psychologist or other appropriate mh professional to get unbiased advice.If that means continuing the current visitation schedule and paying child support, then do that. Your explanation for the delay in dealing with this indicates you may be focused on issues(ex: support payments) that shouldnt be the primary factor. It doesnt take that long to arrange for school, etc.
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Mother owned a property in California with two judgement liens. I inherited the property. Do liens ever expire? I've been told it's gaining interest and the lien are now more than the house is worth, what are my options?
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Chapter 13 bankruptcy allows lien stripping may be an option if you're determined to keep the house and have some debt to discharge. If you're saddled with debt, this may be a good option.
Liens do not expire. Unless the estate can pay off those liens through another means (or someone wants to pay out of pocket), most likely you will not be inheriting the house (it will be sold to pay off the liens).
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Mother owned a property in California with two judgement liens. I inherited the property. Do liens ever expire? I've been told it's gaining interest and the lien are now more than the house is worth, what are my options?
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Chapter 13 bankruptcy allows lien stripping may be an option if you're determined to keep the house and have some debt to discharge. If you're saddled with debt, this may be a good option.
If you have just begun probate--if debts exceed assets, it is possible to declare an estate insolvent, a kind of bankruptcy. That does mean that everything, including the house, will be sold to pay off as many creditors as possible. It is also possible to refuse to accept an inheritance. This is called "disclaiming" it. The house would be treated as if you had died, and go to whoever is named next in the will. If no will, or no other heirs named, then state law determines who gets (or is stuck with) it.
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I'm 14 I live in Illinois and I want to get away from my mother. How can I go about doing this? My mom has been in abusive relationship with a mentally unstable military veteran since I was 7 years old. She's forced me into calling him dad, but more to the point, I have been put in immediate danger multiple times by him. Just lastnight she forced me to go bond with him. He took me to some place in Saint louis where people were racing their cars on the street. Lots of drinking going on and I have to assume there were drugs in the area. He was drinking as well. I knew no one there but him and my phone had died. There were fights. Eventually the police came so he rushed me into the truck my mom bought and speed away from the police with everyone else there. And I mean going so fast death would have been certain if he hit anything. I got home at 3am. My mom woke me up at 6am for school. I'd been sleep for maybe an hour and a half. I fell asleep in the bathroom. She spanked me for intentionally skipping school. I really could go on but lastnight and this morning are a microcosm of the past seven years. There are weapons allover the house. He has a ridiculously large porn collection. He's an alcoholic. My mother enables all of his bad behavior and subsidizes it. Then my mother comes to me for emotional support. It's too much. My grades are suffering and I need to focus on my future since no one else is. I'm not sure who to call--dcfs? The police? Cps? I just don't know. I do know that I need to get away from these people before I end up dead or a dropout.
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Go to your school counselor or trusted teacher immediately and report all of this. Be prepared, however, for DSS (or your state's version of children's services) to be called. You could (and really should) be placed in a foster home while your mother is investigated.
Call CPS.
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I'm 14 I live in Illinois and I want to get away from my mother. How can I go about doing this? My mom has been in abusive relationship with a mentally unstable military veteran since I was 7 years old. She's forced me into calling him dad, but more to the point, I have been put in immediate danger multiple times by him. Just lastnight she forced me to go bond with him. He took me to some place in Saint louis where people were racing their cars on the street. Lots of drinking going on and I have to assume there were drugs in the area. He was drinking as well. I knew no one there but him and my phone had died. There were fights. Eventually the police came so he rushed me into the truck my mom bought and speed away from the police with everyone else there. And I mean going so fast death would have been certain if he hit anything. I got home at 3am. My mom woke me up at 6am for school. I'd been sleep for maybe an hour and a half. I fell asleep in the bathroom. She spanked me for intentionally skipping school. I really could go on but lastnight and this morning are a microcosm of the past seven years. There are weapons allover the house. He has a ridiculously large porn collection. He's an alcoholic. My mother enables all of his bad behavior and subsidizes it. Then my mother comes to me for emotional support. It's too much. My grades are suffering and I need to focus on my future since no one else is. I'm not sure who to call--dcfs? The police? Cps? I just don't know. I do know that I need to get away from these people before I end up dead or a dropout.
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I agree with all the advice you've been given. I also recommend that you begin to keep a diary of anything that happens that is harmful or potentially harmful to you. Also, ask a close friend to do the same by keeping a journal of anything they witness. If they see you with a black eye, a bruise, you seem excessively tired, or upset, they should write it down. In a Domestic Violence course I took, I learned about a case that involved the journal that was kept secretly by a woman's coworker. When she finally decided to divorce her abusive spouse, her co-worker was able to testify on her behalf citing the length of the abuse and specific dates and injuries.
Call CPS.
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I'm 14 I live in Illinois and I want to get away from my mother. How can I go about doing this? My mom has been in abusive relationship with a mentally unstable military veteran since I was 7 years old. She's forced me into calling him dad, but more to the point, I have been put in immediate danger multiple times by him. Just lastnight she forced me to go bond with him. He took me to some place in Saint louis where people were racing their cars on the street. Lots of drinking going on and I have to assume there were drugs in the area. He was drinking as well. I knew no one there but him and my phone had died. There were fights. Eventually the police came so he rushed me into the truck my mom bought and speed away from the police with everyone else there. And I mean going so fast death would have been certain if he hit anything. I got home at 3am. My mom woke me up at 6am for school. I'd been sleep for maybe an hour and a half. I fell asleep in the bathroom. She spanked me for intentionally skipping school. I really could go on but lastnight and this morning are a microcosm of the past seven years. There are weapons allover the house. He has a ridiculously large porn collection. He's an alcoholic. My mother enables all of his bad behavior and subsidizes it. Then my mother comes to me for emotional support. It's too much. My grades are suffering and I need to focus on my future since no one else is. I'm not sure who to call--dcfs? The police? Cps? I just don't know. I do know that I need to get away from these people before I end up dead or a dropout.
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I am a high school teacher, not a lawyer. Your analysis of the situation and vocabulary seem far more mature than a typical 14-year old. Unless you have been physically hurt/abused, DCFS probably will not remove you from your home. (My friend worked as a caseworker for DCFS.) Is there another relative or friend's family that would take you in for the remainder of high school? Discuss the situation with a counselor, teacher, or an administrator at your school. You need to get some support to keep you focused on your future and making good choices. And as was already said, keep a journal or record of events. If you are in danger or feel unsafe, do not hesitate call the police.
Call CPS.
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Domestic Violence Restraining Order- How bad does it have to get before I can obtain an order against my mother? Hi Everyone, I cut off contact with my parents back in March. My mother's abusive and toxic behavior was just too much for me to handle, and the stress brought on a series of health issues. She is a raging alcoholic, prescription drug abuser...you get the picture. My brother who is two years older than me (we are both legal adults) still lives there so I've heard how much worse things have gotten since I've left. She's gotten behind the wheel drunk on several occasions, has tried to stab my father and brother, and has harassed the whole neighborhood. A couple of weeks ago she was arrested for public intoxication and was released about 10 hours later. A couple of days ago after beating my father with her crutches and him having visible marks on his arms from trying to defend himself, she was arrested for felony domestic violence. They arrested her, took her away, but she posted bail shortly after so she's currently back at home. My brother and father are going to the courthouse to file for a restraining order for themselves today. With the police coming to the house several times a week for the past several months now, and these charges, I anticipate them getting the order. Law enforcement advised my father and brother to get the order so she will promptly be forced to leave the house. Given her behavior this past year especially, I am pretty certain no one will take her in and she will be homeless. She hasn't done anything physically violent to me yet, especially since I moved out and cut off contact before things got THIS bad. I saw it going this route and feared for my safety. I also didn't want to be responsible for enabling her behavior. I often worry about her hurting an innocent stranger. Once she gets kicked out, I feel like she'll try to target me next. I live in California. We live in different, but neighboring counties that are 15 minutes apart. From my research, I've found that I'd be eligible for a Domestic Violence Restraining Order since she is my mother, but I can't find any guidelines on how severe the harassment and abuse has to be before I can have one granted. I anticipate having to eventually file for an order, so I want to be prepared to do that as soon as I am allowed to. For more context, my family does not financially support me in anyway. I am on my mother's dental plan currently since she can only remove dependents during open enrollment each year. Their paperwork to do that was due two weeks ago, I have no ideal if my mother filed it. Either way, I'm turning 24 in a few months, so she will have to remove me from her plan soon. Your input is appreciated. Thank you!
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I am not a lawyer but I was a dv case manager. First thing, make a safety plan for yourself in case she decides to show up and threaten you. Have safe places to go, people to call, if you know your neighbors well and feel comfortable, make them aware of the situation so that they can intervene if necessary. Same for your place of work. Keep yourself safe. Also, help your dad and brother create their own safety plans. Restraining orders are not magical documents that make abusers go away, and she is likely to try and go back to them more than once. Finally, if she does come to you, is violent with you or threatens you, first call the police if you feel unsafe. Then document everything the best way that you can. Install a security camera at your house, save texts if she has access to your number. Just document everything, that way if you do need to get an RO, you have plenty to show the need. Be safe OP. I'm sorry that you are in this situation.
FYI you can stay on parental insurance plans until 26.
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I was kicked out of a house I payed the wifi at and can’t stop paying bc I have to return the router but I am not allowed back in I have AT&T wifi not sure how to get around this. Should I call them and tell them I’ll pay them to pick it up?
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You can put the service in vacation mode, IE it wont work till you turn it back on. the monthly goes down to basic cost of like 30$. https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-internet/KM1275918/ While you wait for the police to escort you in to get your equipment and things.
Where are you and what do you mean "kicked out"? Like you were evicted or someone changed the locks on you or?
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I was kicked out of a house I payed the wifi at and can’t stop paying bc I have to return the router but I am not allowed back in I have AT&T wifi not sure how to get around this. Should I call them and tell them I’ll pay them to pick it up?
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You can put the service in vacation mode, IE it wont work till you turn it back on. the monthly goes down to basic cost of like 30$. https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-internet/KM1275918/ While you wait for the police to escort you in to get your equipment and things.
Ask for a police scort to remove it.
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I was kicked out of a house I payed the wifi at and can’t stop paying bc I have to return the router but I am not allowed back in I have AT&T wifi not sure how to get around this. Should I call them and tell them I’ll pay them to pick it up?
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How long ago were you kicked out? You could pay for the router replacement cost and sue the other roommates/landlord/whomever owns the home in small claims court for the router amount plus any Internet bills you're paying. You could ask for a supervisor at the Internet company and explain the homeowner/landlord is hostile and you can't get access to the router. See what options they give you.
You can put the service in vacation mode, IE it wont work till you turn it back on. the monthly goes down to basic cost of like 30$. https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-internet/KM1275918/ While you wait for the police to escort you in to get your equipment and things.
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I was kicked out of a house I payed the wifi at and can’t stop paying bc I have to return the router but I am not allowed back in I have AT&T wifi not sure how to get around this. Should I call them and tell them I’ll pay them to pick it up?
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How long ago were you kicked out? You could pay for the router replacement cost and sue the other roommates/landlord/whomever owns the home in small claims court for the router amount plus any Internet bills you're paying. You could ask for a supervisor at the Internet company and explain the homeowner/landlord is hostile and you can't get access to the router. See what options they give you.
Ask for a police scort to remove it.
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[CA] I (15) was kicked out of my father's home and have since moved in with my mother. He refuses to give me any of my belongings. What actions can I take? My father kicked me out in late October and had agreed to drive to where I currently am living (it's about a 8 hour drive) to bring me all my stuff in January. It's May now and he's done nothing (he has a history of failing to make commitments, so I'm not surprised/mad about this at all). He's now claiming I owe him $2000+ (I don't) and I need to pay it back before he gives me anything I own. He hasn't mentioned anything like this until yesterday (May 24th). I want my stuff back since I had only been given a 2 hour notice as to when I had to leave my previous home and I couldn't plan any of it out. I don't know what I can do in this situation. Can he keep my belongings? Can I do anything to get them back?
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You need to start making a list of items left at your father's house with photos if possible. Be detailed brands, who or where they came from. If they were gifts to you, bought by you or for you, they belong to you. You are underage, you owe your dad nothing. I do not know if you or your mom will have to (because of your age) but I would fill in a police report (you can usually fill these out online). It is important to have things documented and this is one of the easiest ways. Be prepared he may have already gotten rid of your stuff.
This is something to let your mother handle.
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[CA] I (15) was kicked out of my father's home and have since moved in with my mother. He refuses to give me any of my belongings. What actions can I take? My father kicked me out in late October and had agreed to drive to where I currently am living (it's about a 8 hour drive) to bring me all my stuff in January. It's May now and he's done nothing (he has a history of failing to make commitments, so I'm not surprised/mad about this at all). He's now claiming I owe him $2000+ (I don't) and I need to pay it back before he gives me anything I own. He hasn't mentioned anything like this until yesterday (May 24th). I want my stuff back since I had only been given a 2 hour notice as to when I had to leave my previous home and I couldn't plan any of it out. I don't know what I can do in this situation. Can he keep my belongings? Can I do anything to get them back?
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Nal- can you make arrangements to go to your dad's house and pick up your stuff yourself? I don't think he's required to go to any expense to send you your belongings but I don't think he can keep you from them. Enforcing it is another story.
I am not a lawyer. This is tricky. If the "belongings" left in his home are things he paid for (even if gifted to you), they're probably legally his. In many states, even stuff that is given to a minor by another relative can legally belong to the custodial parent, including everything from underwear to a PS5. The $2,000 is not a thing. Parents are required to support their children and keeping a ledger is a stupid thing to do and entirely unenforceable. Your mom should contact California Child Support Services to get a child support order established. Non-custodial parents are required to pay child support to custodial parents, that's the law. Your mom was likely paying him child support, she now needs to go through the procedures to have that stopped and have him pay her. If she is a wage/salary earner it was being deducted from her payroll.
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[CA] I (15) was kicked out of my father's home and have since moved in with my mother. He refuses to give me any of my belongings. What actions can I take? My father kicked me out in late October and had agreed to drive to where I currently am living (it's about a 8 hour drive) to bring me all my stuff in January. It's May now and he's done nothing (he has a history of failing to make commitments, so I'm not surprised/mad about this at all). He's now claiming I owe him $2000+ (I don't) and I need to pay it back before he gives me anything I own. He hasn't mentioned anything like this until yesterday (May 24th). I want my stuff back since I had only been given a 2 hour notice as to when I had to leave my previous home and I couldn't plan any of it out. I don't know what I can do in this situation. Can he keep my belongings? Can I do anything to get them back?
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Out of curiosity, why does he think that you owe him 2000+ dollars?
Nal- can you make arrangements to go to your dad's house and pick up your stuff yourself? I don't think he's required to go to any expense to send you your belongings but I don't think he can keep you from them. Enforcing it is another story.
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[CA] I (15) was kicked out of my father's home and have since moved in with my mother. He refuses to give me any of my belongings. What actions can I take? My father kicked me out in late October and had agreed to drive to where I currently am living (it's about a 8 hour drive) to bring me all my stuff in January. It's May now and he's done nothing (he has a history of failing to make commitments, so I'm not surprised/mad about this at all). He's now claiming I owe him $2000+ (I don't) and I need to pay it back before he gives me anything I own. He hasn't mentioned anything like this until yesterday (May 24th). I want my stuff back since I had only been given a 2 hour notice as to when I had to leave my previous home and I couldn't plan any of it out. I don't know what I can do in this situation. Can he keep my belongings? Can I do anything to get them back?
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Go to the house where your property is and call the police asking for a civil standby as your father is not allowing you to get your property, my dad tried to do this to me as well when I was younger. I also live in California.
Nal- can you make arrangements to go to your dad's house and pick up your stuff yourself? I don't think he's required to go to any expense to send you your belongings but I don't think he can keep you from them. Enforcing it is another story.
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[CA] I (15) was kicked out of my father's home and have since moved in with my mother. He refuses to give me any of my belongings. What actions can I take? My father kicked me out in late October and had agreed to drive to where I currently am living (it's about a 8 hour drive) to bring me all my stuff in January. It's May now and he's done nothing (he has a history of failing to make commitments, so I'm not surprised/mad about this at all). He's now claiming I owe him $2000+ (I don't) and I need to pay it back before he gives me anything I own. He hasn't mentioned anything like this until yesterday (May 24th). I want my stuff back since I had only been given a 2 hour notice as to when I had to leave my previous home and I couldn't plan any of it out. I don't know what I can do in this situation. Can he keep my belongings? Can I do anything to get them back?
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Go to the house where your property is and call the police asking for a civil standby as your father is not allowing you to get your property, my dad tried to do this to me as well when I was younger. I also live in California.
Call child services in both areas & seek assistance from local representatives who may assist you ... good Luck
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[CA] I (15) was kicked out of my father's home and have since moved in with my mother. He refuses to give me any of my belongings. What actions can I take? My father kicked me out in late October and had agreed to drive to where I currently am living (it's about a 8 hour drive) to bring me all my stuff in January. It's May now and he's done nothing (he has a history of failing to make commitments, so I'm not surprised/mad about this at all). He's now claiming I owe him $2000+ (I don't) and I need to pay it back before he gives me anything I own. He hasn't mentioned anything like this until yesterday (May 24th). I want my stuff back since I had only been given a 2 hour notice as to when I had to leave my previous home and I couldn't plan any of it out. I don't know what I can do in this situation. Can he keep my belongings? Can I do anything to get them back?
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Welcome to the deadbeat dad club, best thing you can do is cut your losses and be thankful he's out of your life. I told mine to fuck off and get his shit off my property a couple days ago, I hope I never see him again.
Go to the house where your property is and call the police asking for a civil standby as your father is not allowing you to get your property, my dad tried to do this to me as well when I was younger. I also live in California.
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My recently deceased uncle’s common law partner is trying to contest my grandmother’s will (ON, Canada) This situation is kind of confusing so I hope I explain it well. I’ll give a bit of backstory. My grandmother (still living) has three children, my mom, my aunt, and my recently deceased uncle. On her will she split the money evenly between my mom, my aunt and my uncle. However she specified that if my uncle passed away, rather than giving the money to his daughter (my cousin), the money would go to me and my brother. The reason why she did this is because my cousin has never treated my grandmother well, my mom’s siblings (and therefore my cousins) are well off compared to my family, my brother and I have a great relationship with our grandmother, my mom has almost single handedly cared for my grandmother throughout the last 10 years, and it’s an open secret in my family that my cousin is probably not even my uncle’s biological daughter (his ex wife cheated) and therefore not my grandmother’s biological granddaughter. My grandmother and my cousin have no relationship. She even skipped my cousin’s second wedding. So it makes sense why she wouldn’t want to give her money to my cousin. However, now that my uncle has passed, his common-law partner of 26 years has been harassing my mom saying that she’s going to take her to court over my grandmothers will. She wants to change the will so that the money that was supposed to go to me and my brother goes to my uncle’s daughter. She claims that my mom manipulated my grandmother into changing the will in her favour. In reality both of my parents advised my grandmother not to do this because they knew it would cause trouble. She has money and my family doesn’t have the resources to fight her in court. The easy solution I guess would be to change the will to give the money that was supposed to go to my brother and I to my cousin. I have no problems with this. She can take the money for all I care but the issue is my grandmother is in the early stages of developing dementia and probably can’t demonstrate the necessary capacity to change the will. So what is the path we can take that results in the least amount of headache, that doesn’t bankrupt my family with legal bills, and that ensures that this woman is never seen in our lives again? Some (maybe) useful info is that my uncle’s partner is an alcoholic and she can barely string a sentence together by noon (no judgment against people who struggle with alcoholism, just wondering if this can be used against her). Also my cousin despises this woman even though she’s fighting to get my cousin’s name on my grandmother’s will (although we don’t know if my cousin knows this). Also my grandmother doesn’t even have much money so I don’t even know what the hell she’s fighting for. I think she’s just vindictive and cruel. My uncle hasn’t even been gone for a week and she’s already talking about suing my family over my grandmother’s will. Sorry if I included unnecessary info or if I left out key details. If I missed anything please ask!
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Wait your uncle's common law partner is trying to contest your grandmother's will and your grandmother is still alive? Why does she even have access to the will? When was your grandmother's will signed and when did the partber obtain access to it? The best thing I can recommend is to contact the lawyer who prepared the will and see if they can tweak it to exclude the clause about your uncle altogether and either make notes or sign an affidavit or something to indicate that your grandmother is of sound mind when signing the will. If a neutral third party can attend the appointment with your grandmother that's even better (ie a friend of hers). The same person should also record a video of her expressing her wishes (without any beneficiaries there). I'm not really sure the partner could bring a successful lawsuit while your grandmother is alive. I wouldn't worry as much about that, but if your family does get served with a lawsuit immediately call a lawyer. I am not a lawyer
I am not a lawyer but this seems like a waste of her time if she were to try and take this to court. She's not related to the individual she feels is slighted and has no claim on anything that was meant for the uncle. Probate court would most likely laugh her out of court. However if she does sue then take it seriously and do whatever you can to fight her even if you have to go pro se because as I said she has no valid claim.
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Do I pick up certified mail addressed to my deceased mother? My Mom had a fall and was taken to the hospital. Long story short, it was a mess over several days of treatment and they shipped her to Hospice after being called out for keeping her without any type of fluids for 3 days that caused severe heart issues. She died at Hospice a couple of days later on the 19th. The medical examiner’s office is currently reviewing the case. This hospital has a policy of slapping a lien on your house in case of accidents until the health insurance pays them and sending you a certified letter. (Mom was in an auto accident 12 years ago and they did it then.) We are both listed as owner’s of the home with the survivor getting the house. She’s dead and I’m dealing with all the stuff but it hasn’t been reported to Social Security or Medicare because of the investigation, no death certificate. Do I sign for her certified mail even though she’s dead? Do I contact the hospital? What should I do?
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I'd recommend not doing anything on her estate's behalf until you get a Letter of Testamentary from Probate.
What is your concern with opening the letter? If it is notice of a lien, not opening it will not change that. Same for most things it could be. In my opinion you open it to find out where you are at and then can decide what you do next. Hard to do that without knowing what the letter says. You could call the hospital but you don’t know if you will talk to the right person/department. I would want to know so I could contact a lawyer if necessary, and meet any potential time deadline.
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Do I pick up certified mail addressed to my deceased mother? My Mom had a fall and was taken to the hospital. Long story short, it was a mess over several days of treatment and they shipped her to Hospice after being called out for keeping her without any type of fluids for 3 days that caused severe heart issues. She died at Hospice a couple of days later on the 19th. The medical examiner’s office is currently reviewing the case. This hospital has a policy of slapping a lien on your house in case of accidents until the health insurance pays them and sending you a certified letter. (Mom was in an auto accident 12 years ago and they did it then.) We are both listed as owner’s of the home with the survivor getting the house. She’s dead and I’m dealing with all the stuff but it hasn’t been reported to Social Security or Medicare because of the investigation, no death certificate. Do I sign for her certified mail even though she’s dead? Do I contact the hospital? What should I do?
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I would call USPS about this. It’s a topic bordering different areas and I believe they will have dealt with this before. It may be as simple as getting a court order allowing you to reposes her mail.
> Do I sign for her certified mail even though she’s dead? Is the letter with the carrier, or is it at the post office? I would sign for the letter and initial it. You're acting in good faith and it's better to get in front of any collection issues than let bills get lost in transit. Run, don't walk, to a probate court as soon as you can, but are you going to get into any trouble for signing for your late mother's mail? Nah.
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Do I pick up certified mail addressed to my deceased mother? My Mom had a fall and was taken to the hospital. Long story short, it was a mess over several days of treatment and they shipped her to Hospice after being called out for keeping her without any type of fluids for 3 days that caused severe heart issues. She died at Hospice a couple of days later on the 19th. The medical examiner’s office is currently reviewing the case. This hospital has a policy of slapping a lien on your house in case of accidents until the health insurance pays them and sending you a certified letter. (Mom was in an auto accident 12 years ago and they did it then.) We are both listed as owner’s of the home with the survivor getting the house. She’s dead and I’m dealing with all the stuff but it hasn’t been reported to Social Security or Medicare because of the investigation, no death certificate. Do I sign for her certified mail even though she’s dead? Do I contact the hospital? What should I do?
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What is your concern with opening the letter? If it is notice of a lien, not opening it will not change that. Same for most things it could be. In my opinion you open it to find out where you are at and then can decide what you do next. Hard to do that without knowing what the letter says. You could call the hospital but you don’t know if you will talk to the right person/department. I would want to know so I could contact a lawyer if necessary, and meet any potential time deadline.
I would call USPS about this. It’s a topic bordering different areas and I believe they will have dealt with this before. It may be as simple as getting a court order allowing you to reposes her mail.
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Do I pick up certified mail addressed to my deceased mother? My Mom had a fall and was taken to the hospital. Long story short, it was a mess over several days of treatment and they shipped her to Hospice after being called out for keeping her without any type of fluids for 3 days that caused severe heart issues. She died at Hospice a couple of days later on the 19th. The medical examiner’s office is currently reviewing the case. This hospital has a policy of slapping a lien on your house in case of accidents until the health insurance pays them and sending you a certified letter. (Mom was in an auto accident 12 years ago and they did it then.) We are both listed as owner’s of the home with the survivor getting the house. She’s dead and I’m dealing with all the stuff but it hasn’t been reported to Social Security or Medicare because of the investigation, no death certificate. Do I sign for her certified mail even though she’s dead? Do I contact the hospital? What should I do?
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> Do I sign for her certified mail even though she’s dead? Is the letter with the carrier, or is it at the post office? I would sign for the letter and initial it. You're acting in good faith and it's better to get in front of any collection issues than let bills get lost in transit. Run, don't walk, to a probate court as soon as you can, but are you going to get into any trouble for signing for your late mother's mail? Nah.
What is your concern with opening the letter? If it is notice of a lien, not opening it will not change that. Same for most things it could be. In my opinion you open it to find out where you are at and then can decide what you do next. Hard to do that without knowing what the letter says. You could call the hospital but you don’t know if you will talk to the right person/department. I would want to know so I could contact a lawyer if necessary, and meet any potential time deadline.
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Do I pick up certified mail addressed to my deceased mother? My Mom had a fall and was taken to the hospital. Long story short, it was a mess over several days of treatment and they shipped her to Hospice after being called out for keeping her without any type of fluids for 3 days that caused severe heart issues. She died at Hospice a couple of days later on the 19th. The medical examiner’s office is currently reviewing the case. This hospital has a policy of slapping a lien on your house in case of accidents until the health insurance pays them and sending you a certified letter. (Mom was in an auto accident 12 years ago and they did it then.) We are both listed as owner’s of the home with the survivor getting the house. She’s dead and I’m dealing with all the stuff but it hasn’t been reported to Social Security or Medicare because of the investigation, no death certificate. Do I sign for her certified mail even though she’s dead? Do I contact the hospital? What should I do?
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What is your concern with opening the letter? If it is notice of a lien, not opening it will not change that. Same for most things it could be. In my opinion you open it to find out where you are at and then can decide what you do next. Hard to do that without knowing what the letter says. You could call the hospital but you don’t know if you will talk to the right person/department. I would want to know so I could contact a lawyer if necessary, and meet any potential time deadline.
You can sign for it with no harm coming to you. If they wanted to the hospital or the insurance company can file a claim to be paid from your mother's estate (assuming that you are having her estate probated at the county courthouse). Just for purposes of your being aware of what is going on, at the very least you should look at the documents to see what the matter is all about. Then you will know what to do or how to respond and be proactive in dealing with it.
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Police called my husband to say he can no longer contact his former company (fired this week) or any co-workers. No mention of an actual restraining order. Does this hold up? He is still friends with co-workers and had someone there writing him a reference. This is in Delaware, and just seems weird that it was a phone call, no documentation or mention of. Former employer is good friends with a cop. Is just a scare tactic? He doesn’t want to have legal repercussions for getting a reference, or just talking to his friends/former colleagues! thanks for input!
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Such a call has no real legal standing. However, it would be wise for your husband to stay away from the company and the specific employer. Police do not make phone calls like this legitimately, and your husband could complain about this if he is so inclined. The employer cannot stop your husband from communicating with his old co-workers, but they can penalize the co-workers for speaking to your husband. I would suggest your husband not use any company methods (company phones, email, etc) to communicate with his friends, to avoid getting them in trouble.
Are you sure you spoke to a police officer and not someone posing over the phone as a police officer to scare you. Being barred from the workplace makes sense Being told you cant call the old workplace makes a little bit of sense too. Being told you cant contact coworkers on your and their private time doesnt make sense. If there is a restraining order it has to be properly served on your husband before it can take effect. This could also be a cop friend doing an unofficial favor.
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Police called my husband to say he can no longer contact his former company (fired this week) or any co-workers. No mention of an actual restraining order. Does this hold up? He is still friends with co-workers and had someone there writing him a reference. This is in Delaware, and just seems weird that it was a phone call, no documentation or mention of. Former employer is good friends with a cop. Is just a scare tactic? He doesn’t want to have legal repercussions for getting a reference, or just talking to his friends/former colleagues! thanks for input!
ekr4bx0
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Such a call has no real legal standing. However, it would be wise for your husband to stay away from the company and the specific employer. Police do not make phone calls like this legitimately, and your husband could complain about this if he is so inclined. The employer cannot stop your husband from communicating with his old co-workers, but they can penalize the co-workers for speaking to your husband. I would suggest your husband not use any company methods (company phones, email, etc) to communicate with his friends, to avoid getting them in trouble.
Did he get the officer's name? Perhaps this was an employee impersonating an officer.. either way, it's not legitimate.
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Have you asked him why he keeps his illegal pills in a bottle with your name on it? Answer: To reduce the chances of him getting in trouble if police find the pills. But this increases the chances of you getting in trouble. Which he doesn't care about. Tell him to take your pill bottle, empty his pills from it, and throw the bottle away. And if he wants to bring pills in your car, they have to be in his pocket, not in the center console. He's doing everything he can to make sure that if there's a traffic stop that goes bad, then you get arrested for the pills, not him.
"Those aren't mine!" is something a lot of people caught with stuff they shouldn't have try. It should be unsurprising they aren't going to take your word for it. They *might* take your bf's word for it *if* he admits to the (illegal) drugs being his. (Or, that might just implicate the both of you instead.) But you should seriously consider the possibility that he's putting his pills in a bottle with your name on them specifically to keep *himself* out of trouble if the drugs are found.
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Have you asked him why he keeps his illegal pills in a bottle with your name on it? Answer: To reduce the chances of him getting in trouble if police find the pills. But this increases the chances of you getting in trouble. Which he doesn't care about. Tell him to take your pill bottle, empty his pills from it, and throw the bottle away. And if he wants to bring pills in your car, they have to be in his pocket, not in the center console. He's doing everything he can to make sure that if there's a traffic stop that goes bad, then you get arrested for the pills, not him.
Yes you could be held responsible because it's your vehicle and it is your pill bottle. They can infer ownership, also if you're in the car they can charge you both. It all depends on if you're in the car when he's pulled over with this stuff
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Yes 100%!! If you're in the US you could even do some serious jail time.
Have you asked him why he keeps his illegal pills in a bottle with your name on it? Answer: To reduce the chances of him getting in trouble if police find the pills. But this increases the chances of you getting in trouble. Which he doesn't care about. Tell him to take your pill bottle, empty his pills from it, and throw the bottle away. And if he wants to bring pills in your car, they have to be in his pocket, not in the center console. He's doing everything he can to make sure that if there's a traffic stop that goes bad, then you get arrested for the pills, not him.
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Have you asked him why he keeps his illegal pills in a bottle with your name on it? Answer: To reduce the chances of him getting in trouble if police find the pills. But this increases the chances of you getting in trouble. Which he doesn't care about. Tell him to take your pill bottle, empty his pills from it, and throw the bottle away. And if he wants to bring pills in your car, they have to be in his pocket, not in the center console. He's doing everything he can to make sure that if there's a traffic stop that goes bad, then you get arrested for the pills, not him.
Yes you can get in trouble. It sounds like your boyfriend knows this and is purposely using your old pill bottle , so if caught he can say they are yours.
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Yes you could be held responsible because it's your vehicle and it is your pill bottle. They can infer ownership, also if you're in the car they can charge you both. It all depends on if you're in the car when he's pulled over with this stuff
"Those aren't mine!" is something a lot of people caught with stuff they shouldn't have try. It should be unsurprising they aren't going to take your word for it. They *might* take your bf's word for it *if* he admits to the (illegal) drugs being his. (Or, that might just implicate the both of you instead.) But you should seriously consider the possibility that he's putting his pills in a bottle with your name on them specifically to keep *himself* out of trouble if the drugs are found.
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Yeah, this is not okay. Your boyfriend could be doing this just to try to avoid getting caught - not having the pills on his person in the car, and having them in a bottle with your name on it. But he could also be thinking that if he gets caught he will say the pills are yours, and that could definitely create legitimate problems for you. The police might believe you if you say the pills aren't yours and that might be the end of it. But there are circumstances where you really could face charges - for instance if you and your bf were both in the car when the pills are discovered, in the center console, and he says they're yours. That won't *necessarily* be a good way for him to get out of being charged, but it would make things tough for you. My advice: don't be around your boyfriend at all if he carries illegal pills in this bottle. And if the police start asking you questions about that bottle, don't answer any questions and get a criminal defense attorney.
Yes 100%!! If you're in the US you could even do some serious jail time.
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Yeah, this is not okay. Your boyfriend could be doing this just to try to avoid getting caught - not having the pills on his person in the car, and having them in a bottle with your name on it. But he could also be thinking that if he gets caught he will say the pills are yours, and that could definitely create legitimate problems for you. The police might believe you if you say the pills aren't yours and that might be the end of it. But there are circumstances where you really could face charges - for instance if you and your bf were both in the car when the pills are discovered, in the center console, and he says they're yours. That won't *necessarily* be a good way for him to get out of being charged, but it would make things tough for you. My advice: don't be around your boyfriend at all if he carries illegal pills in this bottle. And if the police start asking you questions about that bottle, don't answer any questions and get a criminal defense attorney.
Yes you can get in trouble. It sounds like your boyfriend knows this and is purposely using your old pill bottle , so if caught he can say they are yours.
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My bf keeps his pain/anxiety pills that he buys (not prescribed) in an old prescription pill bottle under my name. If he gets caught with it, would I be held responsible? My bf is a frequent user of pain pills/anxiety pills. So much so that he keeps them with him in a prescription bottle that he takes with him when he drives. Mind you he puts them in the center console of vehicle we both legally own. He has plenty of prescription bottles under his name at home but he doesn't keep his pills in those. He keeps them in the one that's under my name. I'm worried that if he gets caught with them , in the car that is also mine I will be held responsible even though I'm not taking,buying, or selling any of that crap. Could I get away with saying I didn't know he took my pill bottle or would they look into me just bc the bottle has my name and I partially own the car?
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Dear O P you say pills are not prescribed. I’m assuming you mean they are prescription medicines just not prescribed to him. Or do you mean Tylenol and St Johns Wort? Assuming the first and especially if they are Scheduled drugs then yeah that’s a get in trouble sort of problem. Best
Yeah, this is not okay. Your boyfriend could be doing this just to try to avoid getting caught - not having the pills on his person in the car, and having them in a bottle with your name on it. But he could also be thinking that if he gets caught he will say the pills are yours, and that could definitely create legitimate problems for you. The police might believe you if you say the pills aren't yours and that might be the end of it. But there are circumstances where you really could face charges - for instance if you and your bf were both in the car when the pills are discovered, in the center console, and he says they're yours. That won't *necessarily* be a good way for him to get out of being charged, but it would make things tough for you. My advice: don't be around your boyfriend at all if he carries illegal pills in this bottle. And if the police start asking you questions about that bottle, don't answer any questions and get a criminal defense attorney.
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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There is a lot of irrelevant information in the story, so I’m sorry if I didn’t follow entirely - we’re you cited for following too closely? Or just pulled over and talked to? If you were cited, and you believe you were cited unfairly or unlawfully, you have the opportunity to challenge the citation in court. Go to your hearing, tell your side. If you weren’t cited, then I’m not sure what you are trying to challenge. An officer getting out of his car with his hand on his gun isn’t corruption, it’s a bit normal actually. If he had you at gunpoint unnecessarily that’s a different story.
>as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. Are you sure he intended to pull over both cars? Did you each get citations or did only you get the citation for following the officer too closely since your partner was following you?
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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If the cop pulled one of you over, why did you both pull over? Especially if you had two different state plates. Not saying the cop was in the right, but pulling over a car and having two stop would be scary for him. As for how you can fight it? Go to court with a lawyer.
What you do you mean by "a huge fine?" How much? That's necessary information to determine whether it's worth fighting. Did you both get cited? Is it a mandatory court appearance? How are your driving records, otherwise? If your driving record is other wise not bad (i.e., you aren't in danger of losing your license on points), and this is a fine of less than a thousand dollars, then pay the fine, take a valium, and move on. Alternately, call the local prosecutor before your court date and ask if you can get court supervision in order to avoid a conviction and its associated possible points against your license. This will cost more money, but may also avoid any damage to your license. (Frankly, out of state convictions for petty traffic offenses are usually unlikely to matter too much for points against your license, but I'm not licensed to give legal advice in Oregon, and so YMMV.)
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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What you do you mean by "a huge fine?" How much? That's necessary information to determine whether it's worth fighting. Did you both get cited? Is it a mandatory court appearance? How are your driving records, otherwise? If your driving record is other wise not bad (i.e., you aren't in danger of losing your license on points), and this is a fine of less than a thousand dollars, then pay the fine, take a valium, and move on. Alternately, call the local prosecutor before your court date and ask if you can get court supervision in order to avoid a conviction and its associated possible points against your license. This will cost more money, but may also avoid any damage to your license. (Frankly, out of state convictions for petty traffic offenses are usually unlikely to matter too much for points against your license, but I'm not licensed to give legal advice in Oregon, and so YMMV.)
Do you have some reason to believe this was about out of state plates other than the fact that, like many people, you believe the citation was unjustified and you also have out of state plates? Did he make any comments about you guys being hippy ANTIFA liberals from Portland or anything?
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
i5ce710
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If the cop pulled one of you over, why did you both pull over? Especially if you had two different state plates. Not saying the cop was in the right, but pulling over a car and having two stop would be scary for him. As for how you can fight it? Go to court with a lawyer.
Not a cop, but I believe it is fairly standard for police, particularly state troopers, to have their hand on their (holstered) gun when beginning traffic stop interactions. While obviously not common, officers have been shot or otherwise injured/killed when approaching stopped vehicles. So while I'd agree this policy makes these routine situations significantly more tense than they would otherwise be, I do not think it is relevant to your situation given that it seems to be standard practice.
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
i5cksed
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Not a cop, but I believe it is fairly standard for police, particularly state troopers, to have their hand on their (holstered) gun when beginning traffic stop interactions. While obviously not common, officers have been shot or otherwise injured/killed when approaching stopped vehicles. So while I'd agree this policy makes these routine situations significantly more tense than they would otherwise be, I do not think it is relevant to your situation given that it seems to be standard practice.
Sorry, but that is not corruption. You got a ticket. Pay it or show up to argue with the judge or prosecutor. You don’t need a lawyer for this. A lawyer won’t take this anyway, unless you are willing to pay him, which is more than the ticket. He treated you like criminals? How? You may have something there if he ordered you out of the car, put you in handcuffs and tossed you in his car. Did he put you in cuffs? As for his hand on his gun, so what? He is walking up to a car, and he doesn’t know what he is walking into. That’s a scary part for him as well. I have no idea why that would scare you.
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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Not a cop, but I believe it is fairly standard for police, particularly state troopers, to have their hand on their (holstered) gun when beginning traffic stop interactions. While obviously not common, officers have been shot or otherwise injured/killed when approaching stopped vehicles. So while I'd agree this policy makes these routine situations significantly more tense than they would otherwise be, I do not think it is relevant to your situation given that it seems to be standard practice.
Do you have some reason to believe this was about out of state plates other than the fact that, like many people, you believe the citation was unjustified and you also have out of state plates? Did he make any comments about you guys being hippy ANTIFA liberals from Portland or anything?
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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You should contact an attorney in the area if you are set on fighting this. They would be able to tell you if getting the dash cam footage from this incident is possible (Alabama doesn't like to share from what I can tell,) and whether it would be worth their fee in the first place. https://www.waff.com/2021/09/25/alabama-supreme-court-ruling-gives-police-departments-power-release-body-camera-footage-or-not/ Another thing to look into here, one that a local attorney might help with, is the jurisdiction's revenue from fines and fees. AL just passed a law to limit fines and fees on cities and towns to prevent taxation by citation. This might also be a good defense to bring to court if you are planning on attempting to make a stand against such abuse. https://www.al.com/news/2022/04/alabama-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-limit-how-much-municipalities-can-keep-from-traffic-fines.html# The hand on the gun is SOP in many jurisdictions. Police are trained to be ready for an ambush during traffic stops so they will often keep their hands on or close to their guns. I don't think that there is anything that can be done about that. It sucks and is scary, but they are within their rights to approach your vehicle cautiously. If you are looking for other avenues to fight corruption, such as a reporter or anticorruption organization you will need to put in more work. If you haven't been paying attention to the state, the Town of Brookfield just got into some deep water because of their unjust ticketing system. There are many eyes on the state right now for such stories. But you should do some research before contacting a reporter. You would have to review the police statistics for tickets and the jurisdiction's budget to look at their fines/fees income. Then you need to be able to present your story in a concise paragraph if you want to get anyone's attention.
Not a cop, but I believe it is fairly standard for police, particularly state troopers, to have their hand on their (holstered) gun when beginning traffic stop interactions. While obviously not common, officers have been shot or otherwise injured/killed when approaching stopped vehicles. So while I'd agree this policy makes these routine situations significantly more tense than they would otherwise be, I do not think it is relevant to your situation given that it seems to be standard practice.
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
i5cjtfk
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Sorry, but that is not corruption. You got a ticket. Pay it or show up to argue with the judge or prosecutor. You don’t need a lawyer for this. A lawyer won’t take this anyway, unless you are willing to pay him, which is more than the ticket. He treated you like criminals? How? You may have something there if he ordered you out of the car, put you in handcuffs and tossed you in his car. Did he put you in cuffs? As for his hand on his gun, so what? He is walking up to a car, and he doesn’t know what he is walking into. That’s a scary part for him as well. I have no idea why that would scare you.
Your story is missing so many details. What does your ticket say? There was likely no corruption involved. You can get pulled over at any time. The officer having his hand on a gun is not weird in the slightest. Also, if you really do want to fight it because you believe he/she was in the wrong, you can get a lawyer to represent you on your behalf.
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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Your story is missing so many details. What does your ticket say? There was likely no corruption involved. You can get pulled over at any time. The officer having his hand on a gun is not weird in the slightest. Also, if you really do want to fight it because you believe he/she was in the wrong, you can get a lawyer to represent you on your behalf.
Do you have some reason to believe this was about out of state plates other than the fact that, like many people, you believe the citation was unjustified and you also have out of state plates? Did he make any comments about you guys being hippy ANTIFA liberals from Portland or anything?
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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You should contact an attorney in the area if you are set on fighting this. They would be able to tell you if getting the dash cam footage from this incident is possible (Alabama doesn't like to share from what I can tell,) and whether it would be worth their fee in the first place. https://www.waff.com/2021/09/25/alabama-supreme-court-ruling-gives-police-departments-power-release-body-camera-footage-or-not/ Another thing to look into here, one that a local attorney might help with, is the jurisdiction's revenue from fines and fees. AL just passed a law to limit fines and fees on cities and towns to prevent taxation by citation. This might also be a good defense to bring to court if you are planning on attempting to make a stand against such abuse. https://www.al.com/news/2022/04/alabama-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-limit-how-much-municipalities-can-keep-from-traffic-fines.html# The hand on the gun is SOP in many jurisdictions. Police are trained to be ready for an ambush during traffic stops so they will often keep their hands on or close to their guns. I don't think that there is anything that can be done about that. It sucks and is scary, but they are within their rights to approach your vehicle cautiously. If you are looking for other avenues to fight corruption, such as a reporter or anticorruption organization you will need to put in more work. If you haven't been paying attention to the state, the Town of Brookfield just got into some deep water because of their unjust ticketing system. There are many eyes on the state right now for such stories. But you should do some research before contacting a reporter. You would have to review the police statistics for tickets and the jurisdiction's budget to look at their fines/fees income. Then you need to be able to present your story in a concise paragraph if you want to get anyone's attention.
Your story is missing so many details. What does your ticket say? There was likely no corruption involved. You can get pulled over at any time. The officer having his hand on a gun is not weird in the slightest. Also, if you really do want to fight it because you believe he/she was in the wrong, you can get a lawyer to represent you on your behalf.
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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Your story is missing so many details. What does your ticket say? There was likely no corruption involved. You can get pulled over at any time. The officer having his hand on a gun is not weird in the slightest. Also, if you really do want to fight it because you believe he/she was in the wrong, you can get a lawyer to represent you on your behalf.
You can try to call the town clerk I believe and try to handle this through mail since its Alabama is so out of your way. Ive handled tickets like this. Otherwise get a lawyer to represent you in court but it'll cost you.
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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Your story is missing so many details. What does your ticket say? There was likely no corruption involved. You can get pulled over at any time. The officer having his hand on a gun is not weird in the slightest. Also, if you really do want to fight it because you believe he/she was in the wrong, you can get a lawyer to represent you on your behalf.
being you don't have dashcam footage going to court and claiming he is a corrupt cop because you got a ticket while driving an out of state vehicle isn't going to fly. how big is the ticket?
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Corrupt Alabama cop pulls us over for out of state plates, gets out with hand on his gun and makes up fine Alabama cop pulls us over because we have out of state plates and makes up a reason to give us a huge fine for ‘following too close’. My partner and I were driving across the country (relocating for a family emergency) with pets in the car. Throughout our 3 day drive we were extremely cautious and came across many aggressive tailgating cars. We were tested a lot, but never drove too close or aggressively. Our mission was to get to our location safely. As we were about to leave the state line of Alabama, I noticed a cop going really slow. I passed him (going the speed limit) and as soon as my partner passed him, he immediately got behind us and turned his lights on to pull us over. We were so confused. He got out of his vehicle with his hand on his gun and treated us like criminals. He made up a story that we were following too close and slapped us with a huge fine. We think he saw an opportunity with our out of state plates. Anyone know how to fight this? Totally corrupt. We did nothing wrong. Also, the way he pulled us over, he didn’t even have time to assess any tailgating. He immediately went for it when we passed him- seconds after. Any advice on how to fight the corruption?
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Sorry, but that is not corruption. You got a ticket. Pay it or show up to argue with the judge or prosecutor. You don’t need a lawyer for this. A lawyer won’t take this anyway, unless you are willing to pay him, which is more than the ticket. He treated you like criminals? How? You may have something there if he ordered you out of the car, put you in handcuffs and tossed you in his car. Did he put you in cuffs? As for his hand on his gun, so what? He is walking up to a car, and he doesn’t know what he is walking into. That’s a scary part for him as well. I have no idea why that would scare you.
Do you have some reason to believe this was about out of state plates other than the fact that, like many people, you believe the citation was unjustified and you also have out of state plates? Did he make any comments about you guys being hippy ANTIFA liberals from Portland or anything?
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