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<@Nga> it's protection against malicious scripts, but you as a user can still see them
2019-03-26T11:17:48.787200
Nana
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Ah, that makes sense.
2019-03-26T11:18:12.787400
Nga
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is `type alias Model = String` the correct way to say that my model is just a string? Because something is going on about it being a `a -&gt; String`?
2019-03-26T13:24:33.788600
Christia
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Yes, that’s correct
2019-03-26T13:34:28.788900
Kris
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Fwiw, you don’t even need to write that type alias
2019-03-26T13:34:40.789400
Kris
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Elm's help for make tells me, that I can compile more than one file: ``` elm make --help The `make` command compiles Elm code into JS or HTML: elm make &lt;zero-or-more-elm-files&gt; ``` ..but what is the usecase for compiling more than the Main-module ?
2019-03-26T17:12:41.791400
Cherish
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<@Cherish> you can have multiple Elm apps, each with their own `main` function, and bundle them into a single artifact. So you get a single JS file, with dead code elimination and deduplication applied, that contains exactly what you need to use those apps on a page.
2019-03-26T17:16:27.793200
Huong
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It's especially useful for folks who are embedding multiple small Elm apps on a single page
2019-03-26T17:17:15.793900
Huong
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Ok, I see.. so embedding these multiple independent Elm Apps (== multiple main functions) in a page via JS is like ``` Elm.Main.init(...) Elm.Main2.init(...) Elm.Main3.init(...) ```
2019-03-26T17:20:10.795900
Cherish
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all included in one JS, the output of compiling multiple Main modules ?
2019-03-26T17:20:40.796600
Cherish
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great, thx
2019-03-26T17:24:15.796900
Cherish
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Is putting `let _ = Debug.log "alksdfjak" in` at the beginning of my update function supposed to log something to the console if the update function is called?
2019-03-26T18:10:36.797800
Christia
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yes
2019-03-26T18:13:35.798400
Virgie
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`Debug.log` takes 2 arguments and returns the 2nd argument. Could that be causing issues?
2019-03-26T18:13:47.798900
Chae
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well, you need two arguments to `Debug.log`
2019-03-26T18:13:52.799100
Virgie
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`Debug.log "some name" someValue`
2019-03-26T18:13:59.799400
Virgie
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Oh right, that explains it. Thanks.
2019-03-26T18:15:37.799700
Christia
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<@Christia> while it's common to use `Debug.log` in a `let` and ignore the return value, you're less likely to make the above mistake if you use it inline and use it's result.
2019-03-26T18:22:37.801200
Earlean
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Oh yeah that's super handy to use it inline
2019-03-26T18:32:25.801600
Christia
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There is some real wisdom here: ``` If we see 'lines of code' as 'lines spent', then when we delete lines of code, we are lowering the cost of maintenance. Instead of building re-usable software, we should try to build disposable software. ```
2019-03-26T20:16:19.801800
Jana
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Is there a way to send data through a port where a field might not exist and not have to use JSON encoders/decoders? JavaScript: ``` app.ports.updateDeck.send({name: 'my deck', photo: null}) ``` Elm: ``` port updateDeck : (Deck -&gt; msg) -&gt; Sub msg type alias Deck = { name : String, photo : Maybe String } ``` That doesn’t work. Is my only option JSON encoders/decoders?
2019-03-26T23:16:06.805100
Jacquelyn
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<@Jacquelyn> ports will automatically handle `Maybe String`, what isn't working about your code?
2019-03-26T23:21:01.806000
Earlean
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<@Earlean> I get the following error: ``` Uncaught Error: Trying to send an unexpected type of value through port `updateDeck`: [object Object] at _Debug_crash (Deck.js:750) ``` But now that you tell me it should work, I’m going to see if it’s not something else causing this error…
2019-03-27T00:59:50.806300
Jacquelyn
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In fact, I was passing `photoURL` instead of `photo`! My mistake… Thank you <@Earlean> for letting me know this should’ve worked.
2019-03-27T01:01:42.806500
Jacquelyn
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:+1:
2019-03-27T01:01:59.806700
Earlean
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hello, i have an error of ``` You are declaring port `fromJS` in a normal module. 13| port fromJS : (() -&gt; msg) -&gt; Sub msg ^^^^^^ It needs to be in a `port` module. ``` but `import port exposing (..)` seems not to find the port module, what's the correct import ?
2019-03-27T02:39:25.807900
Leopoldo
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the module name needs to be prepended with `ports`
2019-03-27T02:47:12.808600
Ruthann
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ie: ``` ports module abc exposing ... port fromJS ... ```
2019-03-27T02:47:35.809100
Ruthann
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<https://guide.elm-lang.org/interop/ports.html#outgoing-messages> <@Leopoldo>
2019-03-27T02:49:05.809400
Ruthann
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<@Ruthann> this popped up `ports module Test exposing (..)` `port fromJS : (() -&gt; msg) -&gt; Sub msg` ``` 15| ports module Test exposing (..) ^ I was expecting: - an argument, like `name` or `total` - the "has type" symbol (:) followed by a type - an equals sign (=) ```
2019-03-27T02:52:05.810100
Leopoldo
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oh, wait
2019-03-27T02:52:45.810400
Leopoldo
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sorry
2019-03-27T02:52:45.810600
Leopoldo
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port instead of ports
2019-03-27T02:52:50.810800
Leopoldo
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yep, my bad
2019-03-27T02:53:27.811000
Ruthann
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15| port module Test exposing (..) ^ I was expecting to see a lower-case variable, like `x` or `user`
2019-03-27T02:53:31.811200
Leopoldo
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what's above line 15?
2019-03-27T02:53:42.811400
Ruthann
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your module line should be the first line ( assuming the 15 is the line number )
2019-03-27T02:54:06.811900
Ruthann
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``` import Browser import Browser.Dom exposing (Viewport) import Html exposing (..) import Html.Attributes exposing (..) import Html.Events exposing (..) import Json.Decode as Json import Task port module Test exposing (..) port fromJS : (() -&gt; msg) -&gt; Sub msg type alias Model = { viewport : Viewport }```
2019-03-27T02:54:35.812200
Leopoldo
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move your module line to the first line, your imports go under it, this isn't JS!!!! :smile:
2019-03-27T02:55:03.812800
Ruthann
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wait.. that's only 9 lines, is there something else in those 6 lines you're not showing me
2019-03-27T02:55:58.813200
Ruthann
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i have readjusted it, that's all the code <https://gist.github.com/afidegnum/b6e09fb8c137fe281a6be59f37a12026>
2019-03-27T02:56:51.813600
Leopoldo
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`module Test exposing (..)` on the first line should be `port module Test exposing (..)`
2019-03-27T02:58:05.814100
Earlean
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so port is replacing module, right ?
2019-03-27T02:58:22.814500
Leopoldo
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you're declaring that this is a 'port module' not a regular 'module'
2019-03-27T02:58:40.814900
Earlean
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ah, ok
2019-03-27T02:58:46.815100
Leopoldo
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thanks a lot, everything is good now
2019-03-27T03:00:48.815400
Leopoldo
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since a lot can be accomplished in elm, when do we use ports?
2019-03-27T03:08:14.815700
Leopoldo
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places where we do it: - localstorage - opening a new tab - saving file to disk - calling 3rd party js lib - focusing on html element ( can do this inside elm in 19 )
2019-03-27T03:12:37.816900
Ruthann
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hy everyone. is something wrong with the elm-test watch command? when i start it first time, by doing `elm-test --watch` in my project folder it shows me my tests and everything is ok - but when i make a change - and save the file - it doesnt detect that change. It doesnt watch basically .. am i doing something wrong here? Thanks :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-03-27T05:08:13.819100
Yang
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If you're on windows, that's a known issue that got introduced by upgrading the chokidar dependency to 2.0. There's an issue for it, so it'll get resolved!
2019-03-27T05:15:29.819200
Huong
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hmm ok, is there any temporary hack available?
2019-03-27T05:22:01.819400
Yang
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Doing some tests right now, and I would really like to be able to make some exports visible for tests only. Has anyone found a better solution to this thing than using repulsive names like INTERNAL or KILLSKITTEN for this kind of exported things ?
2019-03-27T06:08:48.821200
Caron
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you mean in a package?
2019-03-27T06:28:53.821600
Virgie
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<@Caron> I bumped into the same kind of problem and found no better solution than either work around it (not using the internals in tests) or use an ugly trick (making a module that holds the internals that only the tests see, then exposing what I wanted exposed to the outside in a public module that is just a proxy for the actual internal module).
2019-03-27T06:33:40.824000
Antonette
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If you find a better way, I'm interested :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-03-27T06:33:59.824300
Antonette
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I don't find a better way :disappointed:
2019-03-27T06:39:37.824700
Caron
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Then unless you really have a good reason to put internals into tests (i.e. testing that data is constructed in the exact way you want on an opaque type) I suggest you consider the first route (making tests that work just like a user would and not look into the innards of your library).
2019-03-27T06:41:25.826700
Antonette
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<@Virgie> no, I mean inside of an app, if you have a module that exposes some things for general purpose and some things for test only.
2019-03-27T06:42:06.827500
Caron
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<@Antonette> I agree with you on a general basis, but I need to test the internal logic of the module itself, because it is not trivial.
2019-03-27T06:43:32.828600
Caron
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and I don't want to package it away considering the other problems introduced by that route.
2019-03-27T06:44:13.829700
Caron
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Ok. Since it's something inside your own app, there's no shame in exposing things you wouldn't in a library anyways.
2019-03-27T06:44:39.830200
Antonette
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(opaque types and such are best used in libs imo)
2019-03-27T06:44:58.830700
Antonette
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The offender is indeed an opaque type. I feel like the application is best served by having it, in order to mark clearly that thing as not for use everywhere (it used to be, and it was a mess).
2019-03-27T06:46:21.832200
Caron
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Maybe this opaque type would be better extracted in a lib then :smiling_imp:
2019-03-27T06:48:18.834400
Antonette
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(ok, this may very well be pushing it a bit far depending on context which I don't know)
2019-03-27T06:48:56.835100
Antonette
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one way to do it could be: ``` type Opaque = Opaque privateFn = stuff testExports = { opaque = Opaque, privateFn = privateFn } ```
2019-03-27T06:49:19.835500
Nana
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(not technically idiot-proof but makes it pretty clear what you're allowed to use in regular code)
2019-03-27T06:50:01.836000
Nana
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Oooh that's a nice way of doing things
2019-03-27T06:50:41.836300
Caron
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Nice way to wrap those for tests indeed.
2019-03-27T06:57:37.836900
Antonette
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I tried the loop variantion with some modifications and wrapped it in another loop to parse a string like this: "aAAABBBCC " and create and output: ["a", "AAA", "BBB", "CC", " "] but it ends up in an infinite loop. Any hints? <https://gist.github.com/ni-ko-o-kin/68793b1b9bd76f454028a56f2e6264cc>
2019-03-27T07:07:04.837000
Miguelina
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It's because the parser always succeeds (chomping `""` on an empty string or end of string), so it never stops in a loop.
2019-03-27T07:42:52.837500
Velia
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It behaves like <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/parser/latest/Parser#chompWhile>, see the note about it never failing.
2019-03-27T07:49:17.837800
Velia
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It should be modified to fail on empty strings, like this: ``` chompWhileSameLoop : Maybe Char -&gt; Parser (Step (Maybe Char) ()) chompWhileSameLoop maybeChar = case maybeChar of Just char -&gt; oneOf [ getChompedString (chompIf (\c -&gt; char == c)) |&gt; andThen chompWhileSameNextChar , succeed (Done ()) ] Nothing -&gt; getChompedString (chompIf (\_ -&gt; True)) |&gt; andThen chompWhileSameNextChar ``` Because `chompIf (\_ -&gt; True)` will then fail on end of string. Here is the full module: ``` module Same exposing (chompWhileSame, groupSame, zeroOrMore) import Parser exposing (..) groupSame : Parser (List String) groupSame = zeroOrMore (getChompedString chompWhileSame) zeroOrMore : Parser a -&gt; Parser (List a) zeroOrMore item = loop [] (zeroOrMoreHelp item) zeroOrMoreHelp : Parser a -&gt; List a -&gt; Parser (Step (List a) (List a)) zeroOrMoreHelp item revItems = oneOf [ succeed (\a -&gt; Loop (a :: revItems)) |= item , succeed () |&gt; map (\_ -&gt; Done (List.reverse revItems)) ] chompWhileSame : Parser () chompWhileSame = loop Nothing chompWhileSameLoop chompWhileSameLoop : Maybe Char -&gt; Parser (Step (Maybe Char) ()) chompWhileSameLoop maybeChar = case maybeChar of Just char -&gt; oneOf [ getChompedString (chompIf (\c -&gt; char == c)) |&gt; andThen chompWhileSameNextChar , succeed (Done ()) ] Nothing -&gt; getChompedString (chompIf (\_ -&gt; True)) |&gt; andThen chompWhileSameNextChar chompWhileSameNextChar : String -&gt; Parser (Step (Maybe Char) ()) chompWhileSameNextChar str = case String.uncons str of Nothing -&gt; succeed (Done ()) Just ( c, _ ) -&gt; succeed (Loop (Just c)) ``` Then in `elm repl`: ``` &gt; run groupSame "aAAABBBCC " Ok ["a","AAA","BBB","CC"," "] : Result (List DeadEnd) (List String) &gt; run groupSame "" Ok [] : Result (List DeadEnd) (List String) ```
2019-03-27T08:37:12.838200
Velia
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<https://www.slant.co/topics/558/~best-functional-languages-to-learn-for-web-frontend-development>
2019-03-27T11:31:38.840500
Celestina
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I didn’t even know there were 12
2019-03-27T11:37:50.841000
Kris
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There are exactly 12, so clearly, they are the best.
2019-03-27T11:42:00.841600
Teddy
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Doesn't anyone uses Elm and Firebase together ?
2019-03-27T11:50:15.841900
Sadie
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I do with ports, or firebase rest api. there was a elm-firebase package but i dont know its current status
2019-03-27T11:51:14.842200
Rosa
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I have as a PoC using ports and I really enjoyed it
2019-03-27T11:51:57.842500
Chae
elmlang
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Are you using the subscription API for that?
2019-03-27T11:53:03.842700
Sadie
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I am using Firestore via ports, works fine :+1: Tried both one time fetching and subscriptions - all ok
2019-03-27T11:55:48.842900
Lynne
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If one of you would have a bit of time to write a small article about this setup it might be really useful :+1:
2019-03-27T12:01:34.843300
Sadie
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I made a message board with firebase + Elm. Heres the repo; this is the JS code specifically showing what the ports on the JS side look like: <https://github.com/Chadtech/Tieugra/blob/master/src/app.js>
2019-03-27T12:14:38.843700
Ashton
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<@Sadie> Someone on my team was just working on a blog post that covers this, I'll let you know when they've finished it and we've published it.
2019-03-27T12:19:39.843900
Teddy
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Awesome thanks
2019-03-27T12:19:54.844100
Sadie
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Theres a pattern to how I went about using the firebase SDK, and how Ive gone about using other SDKs, which I guess is just, a direct correlation of Elm ports to fundamental operations I want to use the SDK for.
2019-03-27T12:21:45.844300
Ashton
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And then there has to be a port back into Elm with the response.
2019-03-27T12:22:07.844500
Ashton
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All the important logic is in Elm, and then a lot of tedious code that just ties the SDK api to Elm, for the most part.
2019-03-27T12:22:42.844700
Ashton
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I wonder if a `Dict.get` with flipped parameters would be worth having at least in `dict-extra`. It (and `Set.member`) is consistently the one reason I resort to using `flip`
2019-03-27T13:18:28.846200
Florencia
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``` getIn : Dict comparable a -&gt; comparable -&gt; Maybe a getIn dict key = Dict.get key dict ```
2019-03-27T13:18:57.846800
Florencia
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reason being I have to do some work to get to the key, and then the code wants to be `|&gt; Maybe.map (Dict.get dict)` but I have to do `|&gt; Maybe.map (flip Dict.get dict)`
2019-03-27T13:19:54.847700
Florencia
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I think there's a point to be made for changing it in the core package. We put the "thing to transform" last for pipeline friendliness. Based on my experience, it's the key that's usually being transformed, not the dict.
2019-03-27T13:36:38.850800
Huong
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So long story short - yeah, agreed
2019-03-27T13:36:55.851200
Huong
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Glad to hear!
2019-03-27T13:39:12.851800
Florencia
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I think I can at least search for existing and/or create an issue, so that the Evan has it somewhere back in his head :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-03-27T13:40:13.852800
Florencia
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Thx a lot for the great help! Much appreciated! :grinning:
2019-03-27T14:31:43.853000
Elisabeth
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You're welcome. I just realized I misread your initial question and my function was doing the reverse of what your were asking:sweat_smile:
2019-03-27T14:34:40.853200
Velia
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i have changed the current function to package a list of div rather so i can incorporate an additional one at <https://gist.github.com/afidegnum/8dffd22101f52283b603111f8377eb0c#file-bulkit-elm-L287> but i tried my best to changed the previous html elements to a list even changed their type signature but it wasn't successful, please what do i change for this error to go? ``` This `pageContent` value is a: List (Html Msg) But all the previous elements in the list are: Html msg ```
2019-03-27T15:25:35.855300
Leopoldo
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<@Leopoldo> which line does the compiler complain about?
2019-03-27T15:27:03.856000
Florencia
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the compiler is complaining about <https://gist.github.com/afidegnum/8dffd22101f52283b603111f8377eb0c#file-bulkit-elm-L188>
2019-03-27T15:27:40.856300
Leopoldo