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<@Claretta> thanks for the heads up. Luckily we have the rfc for [xmpp over websockets](<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7395/?include_text=1>). BOSH is long-polling.
2019-04-14T22:09:22.173900
Isaiah
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Yep, nice. In my project I started with direct XMPP via TCP support and had to deal with all of the nested stream negotiations and it was a huge pain. Then when I got to rfc7395, I was simultaneously thrilled that the process was so much better and annoyed that I had to now have two different mechanisms.
2019-04-14T22:46:50.174200
Claretta
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Thanks <@Lynne>
2019-04-15T00:40:24.174500
Lesli
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&gt; So `instanceOffsets[instanceIndex]` isn't possible. Only things like `instanceOffsets[5]` is supported (which is useless here). I think there are some hacks you can do here at least <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30585265/what-can-i-use-as-an-array-index-in-glsl-in-webgl>
2019-04-15T04:29:26.175000
Corinne
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I'm making a little asteroids-like game just for fun. I think I'll go with timjs' library: there doesn't seem to be a way to place the origin of a polygon in its center in elm-canvas. I want to be able to control the origin so that when I rotate a polygon it rotates about its center of mass without me having to translate it or whatever. It also seems a bit easier to compose things in in elm-collage.
2019-04-15T05:21:04.179600
Rosario
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<@Hoa> ^^
2019-04-15T05:21:44.180000
Rosario
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<@Rosario> Have you considered using svg directly? Also welcome to <#C0K5RJ7LN|gamedev> if you’re not there already :)
2019-04-15T05:23:38.183100
Dorotha
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yeah for vector graphics svg seems the simplest
2019-04-15T05:25:47.184500
Nana
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<@Dorotha> Thanks for the invite :slightly_smiling_face: I did consider using svg directly, but wanted to see if something a bit higher level and elmier might work well
2019-04-15T05:26:33.185100
Rosario
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I'll have a look at the svg docs, but I think I was concerned about the readme saying it was a bad api or something
2019-04-15T05:27:24.186200
Rosario
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can somebody recommend a library for typescript that does elm style json decoding?
2019-04-15T06:46:56.188700
Desire
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Thanks. If lists were supported, I could probably do something like then ``` uniform vec2 instanceOffsets[20]; main() { highp int index = int(instanceIndex); mediump vec2 offset = vec2(); for (int i = 0; i &lt; 20; i++) offset += instanceOffsets[i] * float(index == i); gl_Position = perspective * camera * rotation * vec4(position + vec3(offset, 0), 1.0); vcolor = color; } ```
2019-04-15T06:54:51.188800
Jae
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It doesn't get around the problem that I have to go through the entire array for each vertex but at least I don't have to do as much copy pasting (unfortunately since I don't have uniform lists I don't think this will save any copy pasting)
2019-04-15T06:55:49.189000
Jae
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<https://github.com/gcanti/io-ts>
2019-04-15T07:06:23.189400
Dayna
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thx
2019-04-15T07:12:07.189600
Desire
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oh no i think i found a bug in the compiler ... ;_;
2019-04-15T07:41:34.190100
Gertrude
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Can you post what error message you're getting?
2019-04-15T07:43:32.190800
Jae
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Working with `Gizra/elm-all-set`, but every time I try to import it in my Main module I get this: ``` Failed to compile. ./src/Main.elm Error: Compiler process exited with error Compilation failed Success! Compiled 1 module. elm: Map.!: given key is not an element in the map CallStack (from HasCallStack): error, called at ./Data/Map/Internal.hs:610:17 in containers-0.5.11.0-K2TDqgYtGUcKxAY1UqVZ3R:Data.Map.Internal @ ./src/index.js 2:0-33 4:0-3 @ multi /home/annaia/.nvm/versions/node/v10.15.3/lib/node_modules/create-elm-app/config/polyfills.js /home/annaia/.nvm/versions/node/v10.15.3/lib/node_modules/create-elm-app/scripts/utils/webpackHotDevClient.js /home/annaia/.nvm/versions/node/v10.15.3/lib/node_modules/create-elm-app/node_modules/react-error-overlay/lib/index.js ./src/index.js ```
2019-04-15T07:44:13.191000
Gertrude
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That's a known issue. Do you compile with `--debug` flag?
2019-04-15T07:45:25.191200
Lynne
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probably? I don't know specifically what the create-elm-app scripts do, but I'm assuming so
2019-04-15T07:49:06.191400
Gertrude
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Yeah that's a pretty common one when you use `--debug`
2019-04-15T07:49:37.191600
Nana
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Clearing elm-stuff sometimes helps
2019-04-15T07:50:04.191800
Nana
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not in this case it seems. :disappointed:
2019-04-15T07:50:42.192000
Gertrude
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`create-elm-app` does turn on debugging depending on `ELM_DEBUGGER` environment variable: <https://github.com/halfzebra/create-elm-app/blob/master/config/webpack.config.dev.js#L177>
2019-04-15T07:50:50.192200
Lynne
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Try setting it to "false" when running your build
2019-04-15T07:51:09.192400
Lynne
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production builds work though, so yeah. I'll try the env var
2019-04-15T07:51:23.192700
Gertrude
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Beware that you will lose access to debugger in this case
2019-04-15T07:51:42.192900
Lynne
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that's the thingy that shows the app state right?
2019-04-15T07:52:09.193100
Gertrude
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If you use it there is a workaround but it requires building elm compiler from source
2019-04-15T07:52:11.193300
Lynne
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Yep
2019-04-15T07:52:14.193500
Lynne
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blargh. that's a bummer.
2019-04-15T07:52:26.193700
Gertrude
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As an alternative to the built in debugger, you can try this. <https://www.npmjs.com/package/elm-monitor>
2019-04-15T07:52:58.193900
Jae
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assuming I switch then, is there an elmapp config key to turn off the debugger?
2019-04-15T07:54:02.194200
Gertrude
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There was also an initiative on building devTools for Elm: <https://github.com/opvasger/elm-devtools>
2019-04-15T07:55:04.194400
Lynne
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It does not seem updated since then though
2019-04-15T07:55:20.194600
Lynne
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I don't know if there is one. I just comment out the line of JS code required to make elm-monitor work
2019-04-15T07:55:25.194800
Jae
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Wait, are you talking about `create-elm-app`?
2019-04-15T07:55:49.195200
Lynne
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`elm-monitor` does seem being a complicated solution
2019-04-15T07:57:06.195400
Lynne
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Another option is to ditch `Gizra/elm-all-set` as it is basically a wrapper of `AssocList`
2019-04-15T07:58:31.195600
Lynne
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Plenty of choices for you :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-04-15T07:58:41.195800
Lynne
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Well, but that depends if the issue is in the set wrapper or in AssocList
2019-04-15T07:58:59.196000
Gertrude
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It does
2019-04-15T07:59:07.196200
Lynne
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it's the Set part that I need
2019-04-15T07:59:13.196400
Gertrude
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Still an option though
2019-04-15T07:59:13.196600
Lynne
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yeah you could just use `AssocList.Dict a ()`
2019-04-15T07:59:26.196800
Nana
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I use AssocList and `--debug` and don't have this issue with building
2019-04-15T07:59:26.197100
Lynne
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Yeah, and I could always just use my own wrapper that does what I need.
2019-04-15T08:01:36.197300
Gertrude
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Pretty much copy&amp;paste the module
2019-04-15T08:02:34.197500
Lynne
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I can hardly imagine it changes
2019-04-15T08:02:41.197700
Lynne
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I think the bug has to do with creating a `type alias` for a type from another module
2019-04-15T08:02:50.197900
Nana
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It's interesting that it only happens when I use it from my Main module.
2019-04-15T08:03:37.198100
Gertrude
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I have been using it fine in another module for ages now
2019-04-15T08:03:51.198300
Gertrude
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OK, this is weird. I cannot get this to typecheck now.
2019-04-15T08:12:28.198600
Gertrude
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What did you do?
2019-04-15T08:12:53.198800
Lynne
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I threw together a quick wrapper of my own, and I get this same error I was getting before the compiler crash:
2019-04-15T08:13:15.199000
Gertrude
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``` Failed to compile. ./src/Main.elm Error: Compiler process exited with error Compilation failed [==================================================] - 1 / 1-- TYPE MISMATCH ------------- /home/annaia/projects/futuhours-next/src/Main.elm I cannot update the `editingWeek` field like this: 202| ( { model | editingWeek = Just { week = wk, days = AnySet.empty, entries = [] } }, Cmd.none ) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This `Just` call produces: Maybe { days : AnySet.AnySet a, entries : List T.Entry, week : Int } But it should be: Maybe T.EditingWeek Note: The record update syntax does not allow you to change the type of fields. You can achieve that with record constructors or the record literal syntax. Detected errors in 1 module. @ ./src/index.js 2:0-33 4:0-3 @ multi /home/annaia/.nvm/versions/node/v10.15.3/lib/node_modules/create-elm-app/config/polyfills.js /home/annaia/.nvm/versions/node/v10.15.3/lib/node_modules/create-elm-app/scripts/utils/webpackHotDevClient.js /home/annaia/.nvm/versions/node/v10.15.3/lib/node_modules/create-elm-app/node_modules/react-error-overlay/lib/index.js ./src/index.js ```
2019-04-15T08:13:23.199200
Gertrude
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But this should work. EditingWeek is defined thus: ``` type alias EditingWeek = { week : Int , days : AnySet Workday , entries : List Entry } ```
2019-04-15T08:14:07.199400
Gertrude
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I switched to using the literal syntax in the call and it works now.
2019-04-15T08:18:10.199700
Gertrude
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(ie. I changed it from the raw record to explicitly calling `T.EditingWeek`)
2019-04-15T08:19:08.199900
Gertrude
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So instead of doing `Just { week = wk, days = AnySet.empty, entries = [] } }` you do `Just (T.EditingWeek ...)` now, is it correct?
2019-04-15T08:20:24.200100
Lynne
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Yeah.
2019-04-15T08:20:32.200400
Gertrude
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That's weird
2019-04-15T08:20:35.200600
Lynne
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That seemed to be enough to tip it off that it's the right type.
2019-04-15T08:20:43.200800
Gertrude
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Seems like you have two `AnySet` types defined in different modules but having the same shape
2019-04-15T08:21:29.201000
Lynne
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May it be the case?
2019-04-15T08:21:55.201200
Lynne
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Nope.
2019-04-15T08:22:10.201400
Gertrude
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Hm
2019-04-15T08:22:14.201600
Lynne
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Then I don't understand :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-04-15T08:22:22.201800
Lynne
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There's only one AnySet, defined in the AnySet module, and imported elsewhere as needed.
2019-04-15T08:22:37.202000
Gertrude
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Though, the place where EditingWeek is defined is elsewhere from Model, which is elsewhere from Main
2019-04-15T08:22:56.202200
Gertrude
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I wonder if it's struggling to follow the dependency chain?
2019-04-15T08:23:05.202400
Gertrude
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No idea
2019-04-15T08:26:26.202600
Lynne
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can you extract this part `{ week = wk, days = AnySet.empty, entries = [] }` to a helper function , with the type annotation `helper : Int -&gt; EditingWeek` and then update the code like this `( { model | editingWeek = Just (helper wk) }, Cmd.none )` and see about which part the compiler complains then?
2019-04-15T08:41:38.202800
Sharon
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oh you found a solution. I didn't catch that. Doesn't matter then :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-04-15T08:46:49.203000
Sharon
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<@Dorotha> Trying to do something similar. Is <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-lang/svg/latest/Svg> what you're talking about? If so, is it actually upgraded to 0.19 yet?
2019-04-15T10:15:57.203800
Ocie
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It is here <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/svg/latest/Svg>
2019-04-15T10:16:33.203900
Dorotha
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`elm-lang` has become `elm` in 0.19
2019-04-15T10:16:56.204100
Dorotha
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ah thanks for that. Even google results are confused
2019-04-15T10:18:13.204300
Ocie
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Does anyone have any strong opinions on canvas vs svg in Elm? Are either of the libraries that support them in Elm in better or worse shape at the moment?
2019-04-15T10:23:28.205200
Ocie
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There is no canvas API in pure Elm, except for webgl canvas.
2019-04-15T10:26:32.205400
Dorotha
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Isn't <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/joakin/elm-canvas/latest/>?
2019-04-15T10:35:56.205700
Ocie
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or you're saying that they depend on webgl under the hood
2019-04-15T10:36:30.205900
Ocie
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I see, it requires a custom element to be defined on a page, if you’re happy with that :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-04-15T10:41:18.206100
Dorotha
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The api looks nice
2019-04-15T10:41:24.206300
Dorotha
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(With the caveat that I’m well aware of and pretty much in support of Elm’s stance on native/kernel code! :star:) If I’m understanding the state of things today, it looks like there’s no way to use <https://github.com/google/flatbuffers> with Elm today without a step where you serialize into/out of Elm data structures along the way?
2019-04-15T12:29:58.208300
Babara
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<@Babara> looking through the flatbuffers code on github (<https://github.com/google/flatbuffers/blob/master/js/flatbuffers.js>) it looks like a pure elm version could be made using `elm/bytes`, it seems like it would be a good bit of work to do it though
2019-04-15T12:52:46.209800
Alicia
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Ooooh, I forgot elm/bytes exists.
2019-04-15T12:53:10.210100
Babara
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(I’m willing to do a good bit of work to make this viable.)
2019-04-15T12:53:16.210500
Babara
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I'm blanking on the right way to do this. I want to conditionally add some HTML elements to a list. In Ruby, I'd do something like this: ``` elements = [] elements &lt;&lt; header_element if show_header? elements &lt;&lt; is_new? ? new_element : old_element ``` That syntax is a bit janky, but gets at what I want to do. What's the best way to do this in Elm?
2019-04-15T15:19:14.213400
Marcus
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One idea is to have a function that accept the original list, add a new element via `:: ` or just return the orginal list if it is not the case
2019-04-15T15:22:14.215700
Hoa
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I tried writing it out like this: ``` [ if entry.showHeader then headerElement else text "" , if entry.new then newElement else oldElement ] ``` It looked okay, until Elm format had its way with it.
2019-04-15T15:25:07.219300
Marcus
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<@Hoa> True, but it feels like such a simple thing, that scattering the functionality across a few functions feels like overkill.
2019-04-15T15:26:30.220500
Marcus
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``` someFunc elements showHeader isNew = elements |&gt; (\items -&gt; if showHeader then headerEl :: items else items) |&gt; (\items -&gt; if isNew then newElement :: items else oldElement :: items) ``` If you wanted it to be “more” functional, though I think the way you have it is nice
2019-04-15T15:27:34.222200
Chae
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elm format might chang the formatting on that too though
2019-04-15T15:28:05.222600
Chae
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LOL. It's a cruel mistress.
2019-04-15T15:28:15.222800
Marcus
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OK, so in your case you always have a “second path” - you don’t really need that my “…just return the original list if it is not the case”
2019-04-15T15:29:32.223900
Hoa
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<@Marcus> For conditional list building you can just do: ``` list bool = [ "a list" ] ++ (if bool then [ "bool was here" ] else [] ) ```
2019-04-15T15:41:41.224700
Leoma
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<@Leoma> nice
2019-04-15T15:45:50.225100
Marcus
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``` appendIf : Bool -&gt; a -&gt; List a -&gt; List a appendIf bool a list = if bool then list ++ [ a ] else list items = [ "a", "b", "c" ] |&gt; appendIf True "d" |&gt; appendIf False "123" ```
2019-04-15T15:46:56.225300
Leoma
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Keep in mind that the more efficient list operation is prepending… So perhaps consider `prependIf` and use `::` if performance becomes a concern.
2019-04-15T15:48:45.226300
Leoma