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It's using ansible, so slightly obfuscated, but should give a good example if you can read through that
2017-07-20T00:40:36.973160
Beula
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<@Alvin> Unfortunately after changing `from . import config` in `__init__.py` to `from broadway import config` I still receive the error: ```from broadway import create_app, models, util ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'broadway'``` Thanks anyway though. It was worth a shot. :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-07-20T03:44:41.361673
Thomasina
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`latitude = db.Column(db.Float, nullable=False, asdecimal=True)` gives me `Unknown arguements passed to Clumn: ['asdecimal']`...am I doing something wrong here?
2017-07-20T03:50:00.463374
Thomasina
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not sure how to pass an argument to `db.Float` when constructing a Column with ORM
2017-07-20T03:52:49.517566
Suellen
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but you can achieve the same with:
2017-07-20T03:52:58.520319
Suellen
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`latitute = db.Column(db.Decimal, nullable=False)`
2017-07-20T03:53:11.524572
Suellen
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`db.Decimal` (or `db.Numeric`, which is the same) is basically `db.Float` with `asdecimal=True`
2017-07-20T03:53:44.534928
Suellen
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<@Suellen> `db.Decimal` didn't work but `db.Numeric` did. Thanks! :smile:
2017-07-20T05:17:58.416420
Thomasina
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:slightly_smiling_face:
2017-07-20T05:18:06.419171
Suellen
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Is it better to have a local Postgres database for local testing of my app, or just have Postgres connect to the remote database on the staging server? :thinking_face:
2017-07-20T05:43:52.998947
Thomasina
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I can think of pros and cons to both, but I think that it's likely one of them is considered best practice...
2017-07-20T05:44:18.008500
Thomasina
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It doesn't matter, although you want to be accessing a separate _database_ on it (i.e. `CREATE DATABASE testing`)
2017-07-20T05:49:30.124075
Gabriele
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<@Gabriele> A different database on the staging server though? Wouldn't that be redundant or am I missing something?
2017-07-20T05:52:13.184402
Thomasina
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I would say that it is good practice to have local, staging and production environments
2017-07-20T05:52:30.190919
Meg
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with everything as close to 1:1 as possible
2017-07-20T05:52:36.193168
Meg
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and not doing so is a major red flag
2017-07-20T05:52:52.199066
Meg
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You don't want your testing environment accidentally trashing your live or staging environment.
2017-07-20T05:53:04.203613
Gabriele
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seen that happen :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-07-20T05:53:14.206993
Meg
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<@Meg> So, as in having a separate database locally, on the staging dyno, and on the production dyno? (Already have the latter two)
2017-07-20T05:53:19.209075
Thomasina
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correct
2017-07-20T05:53:24.210903
Meg
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so, you work on a laptop, right?
2017-07-20T05:53:36.215406
Meg
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I work on my desktop at home, but switch to a laptop when I work remotely sometimes.
2017-07-20T05:53:53.221285
Thomasina
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what happens if you want to do a little bit of testing in an area with spotty wifi, eg a coffee shop with a saturated network
2017-07-20T05:54:07.226380
Meg
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if you have a local db, that's one less network resource you need to worry about
2017-07-20T05:54:19.231219
Meg
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That's a good point. Actually I sometimes work places without any internet.
2017-07-20T05:54:46.241103
Thomasina
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Guess that's been decided then. Thanks :smile:
2017-07-20T05:54:59.246097
Thomasina
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so you can keep a small portion of the prod db on your local machine
2017-07-20T05:55:06.248747
Meg
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don't need to replicate the entire thing fully, especially if you have multi-gigs of records
2017-07-20T05:55:28.256913
Meg
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just enough to have testing and data integrity :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-07-20T05:55:43.262619
Meg
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furthermore, if you use vagrant or docker, you can make onboarding and environment issues between developers much smoother
2017-07-20T05:56:17.275128
Meg
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because _everyone_ is working from the same environment
2017-07-20T05:56:26.278494
Meg
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no worries about Windows issues when 3/4s of your team are on Linux
2017-07-20T05:56:39.283190
Meg
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<@Meg> Docker isn't for Windows?
2017-07-20T06:08:03.531981
Thomasina
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you misunderstand me
2017-07-20T06:10:01.572126
Meg
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docker is cross platform, and isolates your codebase from the environment
2017-07-20T06:10:16.577534
Meg
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<https://docs.docker.com/docker-for-windows/>
2017-07-20T06:10:47.588094
Meg
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<@Meg> Oh, yes, I just didn't understand your last sentence I guess. Thanks for telling me about Docker. For some reason I thought Docker was another PaaS or something. Is it actually meant to compliment other PaaS?
2017-07-20T06:26:30.895568
Thomasina
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Anyone here familiar with PostGIS?
2017-07-20T07:31:30.078840
Thomasina
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I've done a bit with it.
2017-07-20T07:33:57.122717
Gabriele
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<@Gabriele> Cool! Do you know where I might be able to get my hands on some sample geography data to experiment with? I have a database but it's full of shape and geometry data and I want to try querying for all objects within a certain radius of a point which I can't do without geography data.
2017-07-20T07:37:00.177605
Thomasina
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you should be able to convert from geometry to geography
2017-07-20T07:39:44.227012
Meg
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<https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/18011/is-it-possible-to-convert-from-geography-to-geometry-in-postgis>
2017-07-20T07:39:57.231032
Meg
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and furthermore, regarding docker so, docker basically puts a bare bones VM in which you specify containers for parts of your application stack.
2017-07-20T07:40:33.242022
Meg
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so, if you're on windows and another dev is on mac
2017-07-20T07:40:47.246412
Meg
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<@Thomasina> I personally just used data from sources like Google Maps, querying for places and their long/lat, and adding to my DB
2017-07-20T07:40:55.248623
Gabriele
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you can ensure that whatever issues you have are code related and not OS related
2017-07-20T07:41:01.250420
Meg
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furthermore, bringing in a new dev and getting them integrated with the projects is much simpler, because you already hhave the environment and code _right there_
2017-07-20T07:41:36.261085
Meg
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<@Gabriele> Through the Google Maps API? Or do they have downloadable datasets? <@Meg> Thanks! I'll look into that. Also, Docker does sound really useful. I'm going to check them out! Thanks! :smile:
2017-07-20T07:42:12.271846
Thomasina
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through the API
2017-07-20T07:42:24.275528
Gabriele
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<@Thomasina> <@Gabriele> <http://workshops.boundlessgeo.com/postgis-intro/geography.html#casting-to-geometry>
2017-07-20T07:42:27.276409
Meg
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if you already have the data, no need to use google maps
2017-07-20T07:42:37.279183
Meg
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and the US Census bureau already has plenty of data for download
2017-07-20T07:43:15.290456
Meg
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<https://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/tiger.html>
2017-07-20T07:43:16.290593
Meg
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Yeah, I wasn't suggesting he use Google Maps, just saying that my application did
2017-07-20T07:43:34.296243
Gabriele
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ah ok
2017-07-20T07:43:42.298367
Meg
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<@Gabriele> Oh, sorry I suppose I actually misunderstood my problem. I'm running this query: `SELECT * FROM towns WHERE ST_Distance_Sphere(geom, ST_MakePoint(71.3033,44.2706)) &lt;= 150 * 1609.34` and the error is: ```ERROR: BOOM! Could not generate outside point! CONTEXT: SQL function "st_distance_sphere" statement 2``` By `statement 2` I think it's actually referring to `ST_MakePoint(71.3033,44.2706)`. This is a valid lat/long though and looking at the documentation it appears `ST_MakePoint` does in fact accept a lat/long. :thinking_face:
2017-07-20T07:49:19.400704
Thomasina
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<@Meg> Oh, not sure why census data never occurred to me. Nice!
2017-07-20T07:49:52.410894
Thomasina
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you're in canada, right? there should be something similar for you there
2017-07-20T07:50:09.416444
Meg
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<http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/geo/bound-limit/bound-limit-2016-eng.cfm>
2017-07-20T07:51:02.433421
Meg
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Yep. Although any dataset with a lot of records is good. I think I used the US census site awhile ago when doing machine learning so I'm a bit familiar with it, so I'd probably just use that again.
2017-07-20T07:51:06.434827
Thomasina
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Oh, well since I don't have to look for it I might use the Canadian information then. :joy: Thanks
2017-07-20T07:51:29.441934
Thomasina
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What I'm trying to do is get all recorded locations within a radius of a specific lat/long. I'm using PostGIS now which has been nice so far, but I'm wondering if there might be an even simpler solution...
2017-07-20T07:53:16.475244
Thomasina
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and regarding your query
2017-07-20T07:53:21.476776
Meg
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what is `geom`
2017-07-20T07:53:27.478768
Meg
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To get all locations within a radius of somewhere is exactly the right sort of problem for PostGIS
2017-07-20T07:53:56.487739
Gabriele
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yeah
2017-07-20T07:54:02.489495
Meg
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because you're working with spatial data
2017-07-20T07:54:09.491617
Meg
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The only simpler solution is to call someone else's API to perform the same operation on their database
2017-07-20T07:54:13.492812
Gabriele
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and postgis is highly optimized
2017-07-20T07:54:21.495510
Meg
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you could do a naive solution
2017-07-20T07:54:27.497078
Meg
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but it would be significantly less performant
2017-07-20T07:54:35.500256
Meg
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`geom` is a column containing geometry data (in this case it's the boundaries of towns in a small section of the US).
2017-07-20T07:54:40.501642
Thomasina
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<https://postgis.net/docs/ST_DistanceSphere.html>
2017-07-20T07:54:55.506551
Meg
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It needs points, not just any arbitrary geometry
2017-07-20T07:55:08.510442
Gabriele
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Well I better stick with PostGIS then. While load will be very light at first it could become quite heavy later on.
2017-07-20T07:55:17.513378
Thomasina
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for example, make a multilinestring
2017-07-20T07:55:19.514163
Meg
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<@Gabriele> I assumed the geometry was in projectable coordinates...?
2017-07-20T07:56:04.528816
Thomasina
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<@Thomasina> if you want more help about gis stuff
2017-07-20T07:56:13.531702
Meg
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<http://thespatialcommunity.org/>
2017-07-20T07:56:14.531843
Meg
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It needs one single point
2017-07-20T07:56:30.537323
Gabriele
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<@Meg> Oh nice! Didn't think there'd be a Slack for this. I requested an invite now.
2017-07-20T07:57:12.550859
Thomasina
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are you using flask or django for this
2017-07-20T07:57:56.565161
Meg
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<@Gabriele> Oh yeah, my bad. I guess what I want to do then (to keep things simple) is to work out the center-point of each shape first.
2017-07-20T07:58:01.566681
Thomasina
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I think there are other functions that are more lenient on which types they accept for distance calculations, but the docs for that one suggest that it doesn't
2017-07-20T07:58:10.569479
Gabriele
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<@Meg> Flask
2017-07-20T07:58:10.569544
Thomasina
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<https://geoalchemy-2.readthedocs.io/en/latest/>
2017-07-20T07:58:37.578114
Meg
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might want to use that instead of raw queries, especially now
2017-07-20T07:58:47.581818
Meg
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<@Meg> Oh, yep, you or <@Gabriele> (or somebody at least) posted that here the other day so I have it. I'm running these queries raw in pgAdmin against the database though just to familiarize myself without having to run a .py script each time. :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-07-20T07:59:58.604585
Thomasina
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there isn't a shell for flask, like there is for django?
2017-07-20T08:00:22.614295
Meg
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There is
2017-07-20T08:00:33.617840
Thomasina
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so why not use that ORM instead?
2017-07-20T08:00:54.625288
Meg
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but my database in my Flask app isn't set up with the proper data
2017-07-20T08:00:55.625819
Thomasina
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gotcha
2017-07-20T08:00:59.627362
Meg
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I just loaded a sample dataset into a database in my local postgres install to play with it, for now
2017-07-20T08:01:23.635559
Thomasina
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Once I feel comfortable with how it works and the data I need and how to structure the tables for my data I'll do that part (hopefully soon!)
2017-07-20T08:01:59.647804
Thomasina
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alright
2017-07-20T08:02:11.652181
Meg
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So I've loaded a table with a list of world cities but I'm not getting the expected results. For example I can run `SELECT * FROM cities WHERE ST_DWithin(geog, ST_MakePoint(45.4215,75.6972)::geography, 470000)` which _should_ return Toronto and a number of other surrounding cities. I've confirmed that Toronto exists in the database with the expected lat/long. However 0 rows are returned. :disappointed:
2017-07-20T09:56:37.852226
Thomasina
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I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've been following examples from articles and there are no errors returned...tried a few variations too.
2017-07-20T09:58:59.941907
Thomasina
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dear friendssss
2017-07-20T09:59:38.967243
Kandis
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why does python tell me:
2017-07-20T10:00:23.998438
Kandis
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