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Right | 3gc
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But But for now, I think this would be a good way to go. Just keeping you away from the circumstance, | 3gc
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right? | 3gc
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You definitely don't want, | 3gc
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right. | 3gc
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So good news, a few behavioral pieces we have in here and then a few cognitive as well. So I want to see in a couple of days before we go into detox | 3gc
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okay | 3gc
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so that we can practice some of these adaptive responses are like good practice some at home. Between now right as well. | 3gc
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Right. Yeah | 3gc
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and these behavioral responses as well. But we'll try to get them shored up before detox and I'll see it right after you come out as well. | 3gc
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Okay. | 3gc
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I appreciate you coming in Jesse, and I'll see you in a couple days. | 3gc
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Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. | 3gc
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Thanks. | 3gc
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Hi Hazel, how are you doing today? | 2gt
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Okay | 2gt
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What's been going on? | 1irq
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Well, last time I started to tell you a little bit about one of my friends, my best friend Actually, she had this issue. So what happened was she went to a bathroom at our local library, and she found a video camera when she was going to the bathroom | 0id
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in the bathroom? | 4crq
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probably didn't catch the person? | 4crq
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A lot of anxiety just not knowing maybe, you know, what if someone were to videotape me like that, I've been very aware, shall I say, of cameras. | 0id
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Okay, so anxious and aware, | 3gc
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right, Like, I know you have one in your office and people on their cell phone cameras. | 3gc
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Right | 3gc
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So you have covered a lot of ground there. So you have the you have the feeling of being like worried nervous, whether that's gonna happen to you. But you've also had to kind of change your routine or you have to change routine to feel safer. | 4crq
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Right | 6cd
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has that helped has has changed in the way you dressed or changing where you go and when you go is that help reduce the anxiety? | 5yq
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Not really no, I would say it's really starting. That's why I wanted to come in. It's really starting to affect my life. | 9on
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You mentioned specifically your husband has, like what's been going on here? | 1irq
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He just wants to go places with our kids like go out to eat and and I don't really want to go anywhere that because you know cameras are everywhere nowadays. | 0id
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They are | 7ack
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And I just kind of worried like public bathrooms Could they be there someone being you know, sometimes baby monitors or you know have two phones and people can hack into that. Laptop cameras. So even in my own house, I've just been really nervous. So I feel like I'm not really getting relief from that anxiety. | 0id
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Have you taken any precautions because of this persistent worry. | 1irq
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I mean, I've read | 0id
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I was already mentioned like with the camera specifically. I mean, | 3gc
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and that seems reasonable. Once you take reasonable precautions to try to avoid being video recorded, | 3gc
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right | 7ack
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against your will. | 3gc
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Exactly. | 7ack
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But still, you have this feeling of worry anxiety and your your schedules being interfered with? | 4crq
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right. | 6cd
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skewed you'd like to cope more effectively with your feelings, reduces anxiety. So when you enter into a public bathroom and we talked about automatic thoughts before those thoughts it just kind of pop into our head and they connect to feelings. That can be unpleasant | 3gc
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right. | 3gc
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Like anxiety and worry. So when you walk into a public restroom, what's the first thing that goes through your mind? | 1irq
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that there might be a video camera that I don't see that that's maybe like with my friend that was big enough, but I might not catch it in that someone's going to use that in a vulgar way. | 0id
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Okay, so when you walk in, you're wondering if there's a camera there. | 3gc
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Yeah. | 7ack
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And when that automatic thought occurs, what follows that in terms of a feeling or behavior? | 1irq
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Usually I'll try and find the camera but it's usually anxiety fear. My heart rate starts going up, I start getting really anxious and then you know, I try and either rush to use the bathroom if I really have to go or a lot of times if I don't, I'll just leave. Sometimes I try and use bathroom at home so I don't have to go out. | 0id
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So you behaviors looking for the camera or sometimes just leaving without using a restroom. And you're You're feeling is that that anxiety worry there? | 4crq
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Yeah, | 7ack
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right, | 3gc
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you know, committed that crime. And then, you know, that's combining with situations that you encounter, and that's where you're getting those automatic thoughts. So that sort of makes sense. | 3gc
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Exactly. | 3gc
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I could say if when I walked in the bathroom? | 0id
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Umm hmm | 3gc
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maybe I could say, Umm you know, while there could be a chance that there's a camera in this bathroom, the chance of it happening is not very likely. And You know, I'm gonna take steps to keep myself safe, so that I won't be in a vulnerable position such as looking for the camera. | 3gc
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But it's good. So you have, you have a low probability of it happening, and you're taking useful behaviors to minimize your risk even further. | 3gc
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Right. | 3gc
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right. | 3gc
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okay, | 3gc
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I mean, I think I would be really upset. I think I would feel vulnerable probably for a while and be hesitant. I mean, I would think ultimately, that would be okay. My friend is happened a while ago, she's starting to get to get over it and get back to her usual routine, although she's still hesitant, so I think I would be okay. Eventually, although I'd be really upset that it happened. | 10od
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And it would make sense to feel upset. But that would be upsetting for anybody. But as you noted, that would probably be relatively temporary. | 3gc
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That's right. | 3gc
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distress, right? Well, acute, and certainly, you wouldn't be happy about it. It shouldn't be happy about it. | 3gc
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Right | 7ack
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Probably it happened like two months, two months? | 0id
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And how many days and the average week are you affected by these feelings? | 1irq
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Every day, | 0id
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every day? | 4crq
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Yeah. | 6cd
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And that's true. I never thought about it that way. | 3gc
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right, Because right now I'm suffering every day. | 0id
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Now you're suffering, right? And if, if you could adaptively respond effectively, you you're still gonna have that risk of being recorded. But you know, you could survive that event if it happened late. | 3gc
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I can get it | 3gc
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Maybe, you know, like I said, I'm worried about all the cameras, maybe I could say, you know, I understand there's some cameras that, you know, use for good purposes, security, | 0id
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probably most are | 3gc
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That's great. That's a great adaptive Yeah. And actually, that's kind of a few adaptive responses. | 3gc
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Right, right. | 7ack
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Right. And, and kind of, you know, we're being we're preparing ourselves to apply that adaptive response. And in order to be prepared you, you have to know what it is. So it's good to have it written down to kind of more or less commit to memory. | 3gc
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Okay. | 3gc
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Does that make sense? | 5yq
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Yeah. | 8op
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Yeah. I think that will be helpful | 3gc
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So we'll go from there. And I appreciate you coming in today. | 3gc
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Thank you very much. | 3gc
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Thanks. | 3gc
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Hey Michelle, how are you doing today? | 2gt
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Umm I am kind of doing, I'm feeling a little bit stressed out | 2gt
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stressed? | 4crq
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Yeah, I feel like I have a lot on my plate. I have this test that I have to take for work. | 6cd
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What kind of test? | 1irq
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It's like an aptitude test. It has like math problems on it and like scenarios in order for me to move up to the system manager position. | 0id
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Now, that's a job that you've been interested in for a while. | 4crq
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Yes. Yes. So I've been just feeling a lot of anxiety about taking the test and then they actually scheduled for me to take the test. And I want and I just got really overwhelmed. And I started like I felt my heart was racing. I felt like I wish my hands were shaking. And I just really couldn't concentrate on the test. Even though the night before me and my friend that practice problems, and I knew all the answers with no proper like, I didn't miss any of the questions | 6cd
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so you know the material on this test pretty well? | 5yq
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yes. | 8op
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But the feelings and that the physiological response to heart rate and sweating, that feelings of anxiety plus those physiological responses they got in the way of you completing it, like you were unable to complete it. | 3gc
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So you weren't you weren't feeling great about taking the test in the first place? | 1irq
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Today, the night before, I felt like I know all the answers, but the minute I walked into the room, all of a sudden, all these fears kind of took over. | 0id
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