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1ru6a4
Does anyone know if Tesla s Supercharger map is outdated?
On their [website](http: www.teslamotors.com supercharger) they have a supercharger station map. It has a Today view and a projected view for Fall 2013 . Umm... it *is* Fall 2013. Soon to be Winter 2013. If those stations were to roll out on time they d already be out. Does anyone know what the status is? Running behind schedule? Map not updated?
flashfire97
2013-12-01 14:04:53
10
cdr7zj3
This map seems to keep up with the times a little more. It s fun to watch the progress. http: www.teslawiki.net supercharger
GoodReason
2013-12-01 22:24:00
10
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
4i5xh4
Does anyone know if cloth will be the base offering on the Model 3 interior?
I did some research of the other cars and am hoping that cloth is the standard offering with leather being optional. I m a fan of cloth over leather because it dampens interior sound much better and isn t blisteringly hot in the Texas sun. Thoughts?
dcdttu
2016-05-06 16:42:42
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d2vcryf
I m guessing they will keep the black textile cloth as standard with leather as an upgrade. Side note: I love my textile.
dieabetic
2016-05-06 17:12:10
18
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
57h8ks
Does anyone know if the mode S can be towed by an RV?
I heard the X can be. My father is pulling his Cadillac SUV now and I m trying to talk him into getting an S to replace his Cadillac CTS
Do_u_ev3n_lift
2016-10-14 16:28:45
11
d8s1qle
Sure it can be towed but only on a flatbed trailer with all 4 wheels stationary. And the RV needs to have a ~6000lb towing capacity at least. (This applies to both S and X)
dehydratedH2O
2016-10-14 18:00:40
14
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
iibiic
Does anyone know if there are any adverse effects on used Tesla batteries for when someone sells trades back car to Tesla and Tesla just has car off and sitting in a parking lot?
I ask because I know Tesla doesn t recommend keeping your car unplugged and and recommends charging it when you re gone for a long period of time say you re traveling or you have the car sitting in your garage. I am also in the market for an S. Some of these cars on teslas site have been sitting for 6+ months in hot climates or in states with cold climates like Illinois. Any insight is appreciated.
01colin
2020-08-28 17:33:55
43
g35n8hh
Yeah it s less than ideal and may affect degradation... but it should also be warrantied. That said Tesla should do something about this. 120v outlets in their storage lots solar panels on the cars(only planned for cybertruck at the moment) and their fancy upcoming long-lasting battery will help mitigate any issues. Additionally if when the Tesla network launches I imagine they ll just put any spare cars like that into the network which will also avoid this. That said if they actually killed the battery doing this they re gonna replace it before you buy the car. They should really charge them to like 70% and enable some sort of long-term storage mode before putting them away like this.
Phaedrus0230
2020-08-28 17:46:57
11
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
4v85na
Does anyone know if there are any crash test results with the jumps seats for the model s?
I was trying to see how safe those seats are if you get rear ended at like 50mph. Wouldn t affest any decision about purchasing a tesla just that option
John02904
2016-07-29 18:47:03
12
d5w986o
[Apparently yes](http: www.wired.com 2013 08 tesla-model-s-crash-test ): &gt The rear crash test — particularly important given the rear-facing child jump seats — was another high score with no “permanently disabling injury to the third row occupants” thanks in part to what Tesla calls a “double bumper” to absorb additional impact.
StevesRealAccount
2016-07-29 19:00:03
16
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
3o7jjf
Does anyone know if they make an adapter for the new style dryer plugs (4 prong)
MY families house has one of these http: www.homedepot.com p GE-4-Prong-30-Amp-Dryer-Cord-WX9X20GDS 202214666 any its so close to fitting my nema 14-50 but the bottom pin is bent 90 degrees on the socket while the nema is not. Is there any third party adapters out there?
hipringles
2015-10-10 11:33:20
20
cvup6se
Check out [this link from the TM forums](http: my.teslamotors.com forum forums nema-1430-adapter-no-longer-available). This is a NEMA 14-30 which Tesla used to make an adapter for. The forum discussion has ideas for finding compatible adapters or making your own. Edit: [more discussion from TMC](http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showthread.php 41644-Heads-up-Tesla-no-longer-manufacturing-NEMA-14-30-adapter). Edit2: Looks like [this](https: www.evseadapters.com index.php?route=product product&amp product_id=53) is what you need. Good luck!
EatMoarToads
2015-10-10 11:52:32
5
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
7h1cub
Does anyone know if tonight s Senate tax bill kept the EV credit?
I know it still needs to go thru reconciliation but I m curious if it made the cut with all the last minute changes going on.
tkrynsky
2017-12-02 07:22:24
33
dqnm39b
Edit: It seems that Flake s proposal didn t make it into the Senate s bill and section 1102 here which repeals the rebate is the House version: https: www.congress.gov 115 bills hr1 BILLS-115hr1pcs.pdf So hopefully the rebate is still alive in the Senate version for now. If I m reading this correctly ~~it looks like the Senate s version will now have the credit go away after December 31st~~. Jeff Flake proposed removing the EV credit in SA-1746: https: www.congress.gov amendment 115th-congress senate-amendment 1746 text &gt SA 1746. Mr. FLAKE submitted an amendment intended to be proposed to &gt amendment SA 1618 proposed by Mr. McConnell (for Mr. Hatch (for himself &gt &gt ... &gt &gt At the appropriate place insert the following: &gt &gt SEC. ____. TERMINATION OF CREDIT FOR NEW QUALIFIED PLUG-IN &gt ELECTRIC DRIVE MOTOR VEHICLES. &gt &gt ... &gt &gt (c) Effective Date.--The amendments made by this section &gt shall apply to vehicles placed in service in taxable years &gt beginning after December 31 2017. ~~Which was added to SA-1618~~ which was voted on and approved: https: www.congress.gov amendment 115th-congress senate-amendment 1618 text
rodney8z
2017-12-02 13:39:06
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EV Tax Credit Impact
6rn9t2
Does anyone know more about the premium speakers that come with the model 3 5K package?
I currently have subwoofers in my car and I m wondering if the premium speakers will need it. For people in the Model S how is the sound system? Does it have good bass?
cool_BUD
2017-08-04 20:29:17
30
dl6b2e8
[Exclusive pics of premium audio subwoofers](http: imgur.com OzdNc)
dieabetic
2017-08-04 20:35:32
76
Tesla Model 3 Audio Experience
3hnud4
Does anyone know the configuration of the Tesla battery pack?
I m on a SAE Formula Hybrid team and I ve been doing power train design for the electric side. I ve been looking to the tesla model S as a sort of guideline for my design. Right now I m designing the battery pack and I can t seem to find any specs on the configuration of the tesla battery pack. Like the number of series and parallel cells in each sub-module. So I guess any detailed information would be helpful. Thank you!
arbartz
2015-08-20 01:21:04
22
cu90r7w
Take a look at this thread. Lots of info and photos: http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showthread.php 34934-Pics-Info-Inside-the-battery-pack
jonjiv
2015-08-20 01:59:28
9
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
2kou6r
Does anyone know what happens to the batteries after they re no longer functioning?
I ve heard opponents of hybrid cars say disposal of the battery is more harmful than the emissions of ICE cars. Obviously Elon has considered that when making the Tesla batteries he wouldn t be mass producing something that s more harmful to the environment one would think. We re early in a Tesla s life cycle so maybe this just isn t prevalent yet but what would you say to someone who says that a Tesla battery graveyard is damaging the earth in equal measure?
EhrenISnuts
2014-10-29 16:46:56
24
clnbf9y
http: www.teslamotors.com blog mythbusters-part-3-recycling-our-non-toxic-battery-packs
m0nk_3y_gw
2014-10-29 16:57:36
23
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
6ewnc4
Does anyone know what information the Tesla Model S sends home every day?
I ve been tracking my daily bandwidth usage using a script in my router. The red arrow points to the download for 17.17.4. My Tesla downloads about 10MB daily and uploads 2.5MB daily whether I have driven it or not that day. I find the daily downloads particularly curious as they are pretty consistent. Any ideas? http: imgur.com GuTr7EA EDIT: I just looked again and bandwidth DOES drop when it s not being driven. May 25-30 I was out of town and calls back home dropped off into the kb range.
shadrap
2017-06-02 19:39:44
15
didnwza
The Tesla show did a talk about this I think two episodes ago.
a1000wtp
2017-06-02 20:22:20
10
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
1jerbv
Does anyone know when Model X is actually available?
I reserved a Model X today. I heard they start production 4th quarter 2014 so I m guessing they start delivering early to mid 2015?
lhrmeonom
2013-07-31 08:18:11
13
cbdxxg1
I imagine deliveries will start the day after production starts. Cars do not take long to build. With the S they built 1 car a day at first and ramped up slowly.
kerrigan7782
2013-07-31 08:42:40
5
Tesla Delivery Woes
2j6rpn
Does anyone know when or where we can see the full Musk Vanity Fair interview?
The one with Walter Isaacson where Elon Musk talks about robots? I d like to watch the full session but I can t find it anywhere
DeerParkWaterbottle
2014-10-14 04:30:56
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cl8y9m4
i want this as well!! please give it to me.
auldwin
2014-10-14 05:56:16
7
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
3gg9tk
Does anyone know when the ludicrous modes start rolling out?
I know they re available to buy but the sad lack of reaction videos is disheartening.
i_pee_in_the_sink
2015-08-10 11:03:28
20
ctxwbew
http: gas2.org 2015 08 10 tesla-p90ds-with-ludicrous-mode-now-shipping Now in transit.
Haniho
2015-08-10 13:02:56
15
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
oavvb1
Does anyone miss 80 amp home charging?
I got my first Tesla in 2015 and it only had 40 amp charging capability but we installed wiring for our wall charger to support 80 amp charging. Once I had a loaner S with 80 amp capability and the charging rate was amazing. Later we had an X with 72 amp charging. Now we can charge our 3 at 48 amps and I see that Tesla doesn t even sell wall chargers capable of &gt 48 amps. Does anyone miss the ability to charge faster at home? I don t. I didn t regret spending the extra for 80 amp charging for my S.
olddoc1
2021-06-30 12:02:56
18
h3kldbp
It was a stop gap when Superchargers were more rare. Now it is just unnecessary cost as you have to add additional AC charger units in the car. That s extra weight and space wasted. Plus it is pretty hard to spare a full 80 amps in most residential installations. Honestly since I ve had my car there is only one time that I needed more charge than I got at home (while not road tripping). That s a minor inconvenience at worst.
coolmatty
2021-06-30 15:42:24
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4twgee
Does anyone not have the premium package on Model X?
I m considering picking up a X 60D. Was debating the premium package but can t find a picture of an X without one. Does anyone have that as a configuration and if so can you show me a picture please. Thanks Folks
trinitesla
2016-07-21 11:09:50
14
d5kvytn
I don t have the premium package on my X. Do you want a picture of the exterior or the interior?
CerebralPaladin
2016-07-21 13:02:11
7
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
523e95
Does anyone put snow tires on their Model S?
If you put snow tires on in the winter how big of change was it? Handling? Braking? My largest concern in the winter is how quick the car will be able to stop. It seems like a bunch of mass moving fast would be harder to stop in the snow.
sheltz32tt
2016-09-10 14:45:49
14
d7gz3xf
If you live in a snow winter climate you should be running winter tires regardless of vehicle.
Elite_Deforce
2016-09-10 14:50:21
30
Tire and Wheel Maintenance
gx8sre
Does anyone regret buying a Model 3 (or any other Tesla)? Why?
I know this is maybe not the most objective place to ask this but I ve posted elsewhere as well. I m a realtor and just sold my 2010 BMW 335i. I need to replace it. The Tesla is way more than I intended to spend but people just keep recommending it it keeps growing on me and I think I could swing it. People rave left and right about them. There were things I loved about my BMW (speed comfort handling) but maintenance was going to be a nightmare at the 20k miles year I was on track for. Let s hear the bad shit about the Tesla. Who wishes they d bought something else and why? EV just not for you? Should have bought a different Tesla? Did you buy the wrong Model 3? Is the Performance worth it? Quick edit to piggy-back on my own post: How do YOU charge? I own a house but have no garage. Where I would park the car is right next to the house but outside and on the south side of the house so it gets sun all day. Can I charge in the rain snow heat? I would have to get 220 installed out there but that would be easy. I m just concerned about having a convenient and weatherproof charging setup. New edit: I drove a Model 3 (Performance) and a Model S today. Honestly I was a little underwhelmed. The 3 is fast and there s no denying it but it wasn t something that blew me away. I think I just read so many incredible reviews that I put the bar way too high. The salesman was cool but seemed like he was too busy to really help me. I said Sell me a car! and he said The car will sell itself! And then they seemed to just step back and see if that would happen. The car is cool and I d say there s a 75% chance I ll get one but I was less than impressed with my experience at the Tesla service center in Salt Lake. I drove the S because I came back from my drive in the 3 and was unable to figure out how to use auto pilot so they let me take an S out to try it since all their 3s were out again. I feel like auto pilot is a big thing with these cars and it wasn t even covered in the pre-drive run-down. It was all so rushed.
JWRealtor
2020-06-05 17:21:06
44
fszqxig
Yes. I will have to buy Teslas for the rest of my life now.
whoosierdaddy
2020-06-05 17:27:32
183
Tesla Model 3 Review
6vslk9
Does anyone regularly charge with a standard 120v outlet?
I m debating if it s worth the cost and effort to install a high amperage outlet in my garage. Do any of you currently charge through a normal outlet? If so what has your experience been like? My current house has a detached garage plus my current electrical box is full. I d need to dig a trench for a new line and have a sub-panel installed. There is a good chance I move within the next 18 months so I m debating if it s worth the expenses for a faster charging experience. I typically drive about 30-40 miles day.
hoti0101
2017-08-24 17:57:42
21
dm2nlff
I did for most of a year. My commute was like 10 miles per day though so it was easier for me but I *think* your commute still fits within how much you could charge per day if you plug it in as soon as you get home. I supplemented my charging with EV chargers near my office use Plugshare to see if you can do something similar.
tuba_man
2017-08-24 18:14:29
10
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
beopij
Does anyone rent out their Model 3 a few days a month?
I m on the market for a car and I m too early for autonomous car sharing which can t be available too soon. I will use the car to commute but I don t have to go to the office every day at all and I don t mind using public transport once in a while either (it takes 5 times longer to travel so I can t just skip the car and rely on that). There is a service in my city that spécialises in renting out EVs and their Model 3 are in high demand. I m hoping I can strike a deal to add a Model 3 to their fleet and have them take a cut on the revenue while keeping ownership of the car. Maybe I m being stupid about it I thought I d ask. Thanks.
Kayyam
2019-04-18 18:04:53
12
el7cvsw
Some people use Turo to do that I wouldn t trust a stranger in my car so I don t.
t0mmyr
2019-04-18 18:06:44
25
Tesla Model 3 Review
35m4ku
Does anyone rent their Tesla via RelayRides?
Curious to hear about your experiences. How frequently do you rent? Do the drivers seem responsible?
mkarolian
2015-05-11 17:08:16
12
cr5o8bu
I spoke to [this guy](https: relayrides.com car-rental glen-ellyn tesla-model-s 58554) via email a year ago. He had his P85 listed on both Getaround and RelayRides in the Chicago metro area and he said he was only getting 3-4 rentals a month on average despite his super-low price of $199 per day. I was seriously considering buying a car for solely renting but if a guy can t break even in Chicago using two services I m definitely not going to break even in Cleveland using only one. The biggest catch is that your largest target market: 18-29 year olds are not allowed to rent under RelayRides insurance policy. You would probably get triple the rentals if young people were insured to drive your car.
jonjiv
2015-05-11 17:23:12
6
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
61bk42
Does anyone still think we are getting our spaceship-like steering controls or was Elon fibbing?
I remember [this](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 716729420078133248) tweet like it was yesterday. Did he over promise? I m worried now.
JBStroodle
2017-03-24 20:47:51
19
dfd8f1f
Spaceship like controls = full self driving.
_drew_p_
2017-03-24 20:58:34
21
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
5z56y1
Does anyone use Summon?
I can t decide what a practical application for this would be. Even if I was parking in a super tight space I wouldn t be comfortable using my phone to guide the car inches away from an obstacle. Am I thinking about this wrong?
rangerjello
2017-03-13 14:14:30
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devbylg
I use it all the time. Going to load the whole family in the car? I had summon back it out of the garage so everyone can get in without feeling cramped of having to be mindful of the doors. I use it that way about once a week. I only use it in public parking lots when I m in a tight space and I m parked next to monster SUVs. Again so I don t have to worry about door dinging the cars next to me. Just summon it out hop in and drive away. There s no guiding the car with your phone. It handles all the proximity using the onboard sensors so it doesn t hit anything. Just tap and it handles it.
majesticjg
2017-03-13 14:21:32
61
Smart Summon Limitations
6ny0u0
Does anyone use AP HOV from OC to LA daily?
I am considering a Model X as my business vehicle and I drive from my office in Newport Beach to Beverly Hills almost every day to visit clients. I am wondering how much time HOV will save me at peak times like 8am and 5pm? I am also wondering how well AP works in the LA traffic? If anyone does it now I would love to hear about it!
anothermsp
2017-07-18 02:48:46
11
dkd7i4l
Beware - AP often has trouble handling the HOV lane on the 5. There are two sets of double lines between the HOV and regular traffic and AP sometimes misidentifies the outer set as the lane edge and rides over the inner set. I usually just use TACC in these situations.
nasa1092
2017-07-18 04:10:31
8
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
m6mrri
Does autopilot have trouble determining location of semi-trucks?
I have a 2 year old Model 3 with FSD currently running 2021.4.11 software. I have noticed for about as long as I have owned the car that it has trouble locating semi-trucks. On the display they often jump from two lanes over to the adjacent lane and back. Or if a regular vehicle is next to me and a semi is two lanes over it sometimes displays the vehicle next to me as a semi. Is this a common issue or is something wrong with my car in particular?
BYOchocolate
2021-03-16 23:44:00
22
gr6mgff
All the time.
socbrian
2021-03-17 00:09:37
39
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
gzpoag
Does autopilot move over for cyclists?
I had a scary moment passing a group of cyclists on the side of the road and was expecting my Tesla to at least stay in the middle of the lane if not hedge over to the left similar to how it has been doing while passing a large truck lately. However if anything it was closer to the right side and I had to take over to not get dangerously (or at least inconsiderately) close to the bikers. Has anyone seen any protective measures for cyclists or is this a use case where I should just take AP off?
Hoopoe0596
2020-06-09 15:47:13
15
fthihjw
No
SparkySpecter
2020-06-09 15:47:36
56
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
63jyrn
Does autopilot use manual steering wheel override into its learning?
I drive and assume the miles I put in may contribute to overall improvements in the system. I have been wondering though whether it s clear whether the manual overrides are incorporated into the learning?
Teslainfiltrated
2017-04-05 06:49:36
12
dfurl05
Yes I believe it does which is how it learned to not take exit ramps anymore. Elon mentioned that it also uses statistics to see what most drivers did in that area. So if one area is really bad in terms of overrides it ll get more attention. Edit: And statistics help make sure that it doesn t listen to one crazy driver who did something dumb.
electrifiedVeggies
2017-04-05 07:57:23
7
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
r0akpm
Does basic autopilot benefit from advancements in FSD?
Possibly a silly question but does some of the FSD advancements trickle down to the basic autopilot that comes with new vehicles?
SteveDoesReddit
2021-11-23 10:44:08
30
hlrha6m
Eventually yes but not yet afaik
O_bigodes
2021-11-23 13:03:19
85
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
4oabn0
Does biodefence mode cabin pressurization have a positive affect on barotrauma when climbing or descending a huge hill mountain?
According to Tesla Biodefence mode Pressurizes the cabin... with air pulled entirely from the HEPA filter. I m wondering if the pressurized cabin helps to alleviate some discomfort from altitude changes.
GiveMeThemPhotons
2016-06-15 23:18:44
18
d4b3p89
No while I m not sure what mountains your going to climb or how you can even feel it this system is certainly not going to work for that. It s going to hold pressure over outside so air seeps out all the small crevice instead of in either way the pressure will not be noticeable.
driedapricots
2016-06-16 02:48:33
17
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
6jnzfl
Does dual motor increase real world highway range? or just overall EPA range rating?
I m an early day 1 Model 3 reservation holder starting to consider the options I am willing to wait for. I will be using the 3 to commute 200+ miles 4 times a week so my number one concern is to maximize highway range. 95% of my miles will be at 65-75mph Seeing recent speculation of 300+ miles on the larger pack is very promising to me as I would prefer to not use range mode at all to reduce battery degradation. Does dual motor increase effective range at highway speeds or just in combination with city highway driving? My understanding is the front motor is about 1 2 as powerful as the rear and optimized for the city stop and go driving and is idle at higher speeds. If this is so it would make sense for me to save money and overall weight (not to mention time) and go for the single motor first run. On the other hand if it is a 10% increase in highway range I will definitely wait and spring for the dual motor. Does anyone have any insight or actual numbers on this? Thanks.
Forever_right
2017-06-26 21:05:12
22
djfp1pg
In the model s the two motors are geared differently. One is more efficient at higher rpm s than the other. The ability to switch power to the most efficient motor at any given speed is as far as I understand the key to the D versions improved range. I see no reason why we won t see a similar approach on the model 3. Gearbox is too heavy and complicated compared to just gearing the two motors differently.
Ni987
2017-06-26 21:21:55
20
Electric Performance Car Comparison
3hd1rj
Does every new Supercharger have the new liquid cooled cables?
Does every new Supercharger have the new liquid cooled cables? Elon said they want to over time roll this out to existing Superchargers but I m not sure if every new one has them.
PaulRocket
2015-08-17 21:02:56
19
cu6cxpv
No. And in fact I could be wrong but I think there s only one that has them (Mountain View) probably still being tested before further deployment.
griffd
2015-08-17 21:49:52
15
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
5sxtvd
Does it bother anybody else that the tan seats can t be paired with a black alcantara anymore?
Just me personally but I think a triple-tone interior with wood carbon fiber trim is a bit cluttered. I would ve much preferred to have a black alcantara to match the rest of the black instead of the not-quite-white not-quite-tan alcantara.
0terminater0
2017-02-09 04:09:37
14
ddis38c
Totally. It s enough to make me wait until they change the interior options again.
yrrkoon
2017-02-09 06:08:44
9
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
lci1n8
Does it make sense to buy used?
Looking to trade in our ICE for a model 3. We ve been comparing new vs used and what might be better financially. I ve been doing my research and it seems that in the past people recommended buying new as the difference wasn t significant due to the tax credits for new cars and retained value of the car. I ve been comparing new vs used and it seems as if buying used wouldn t be such a bad idea. We re interested in an AWD with FSD. New 2021 M3| A used 2019 w 14k miles ---|--- 46 990 + 10 000 = 56 990| 47 300. Almost 10k savings on a two year old car doesn t seem terrible. Is there something else I should be factoring in? Currently living in florida where there isn t any tax credits available. I m really itching to get a new car and the one ICE is becoming a bear to maintian.
what_an_ass
2021-02-04 15:27:24
10
glzvujw
You re spot on. It may be better to buy used. Keep in mind the battery degradation of used vs new and loss of state benefits when you buy used.
unequal_equilibrium
2021-02-04 15:29:43
16
Tesla Model 3 Review
5f0wkr
Does it make sense to trade up now?
I m hoping you folks could shine some more rationale on my thinking and provide some advice... We ve been driving a Model S 70D with AP 1 for a year and a half now and absolutely love it. However the wife and I were thinking of switching over to the Model X at about the 3 year mark (in about another year and a half). Once we started doing the numbers and figuring out the trade in value of our current 70D would it make more sense to trade up right now instead? If we buy a Model X 75D with all the bells and whistles before the end of the year we are guaranteed free supercharging for life which comes to us at a premium because we live 5 minute drive from one (plus I believe resale value would be higher). We are also guaranteed the $7500 federal tax credit which may or may not be around in a year and a half. The Model X 75D obviously costs more and we d have to put additional money down but it seems we have a bit to gain by doing it sooner rather than later... Am I crazy to even consider changing cars after owning it for a year and a half??? What have you done to me Tesla! Also can you still get a $1000 referral credit if it s your second Tesla?
linxerator
2016-11-26 18:51:33
11
dagui9a
... we are guaranteed free supercharging for life which comes to us at a premium because we live 5 minute drive from one ... is the exact reason that unlimited will no longer be free come 17
hipringles
2016-11-26 22:47:13
28
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
716a0l
Does it seem as though 48A 240V will be the standard for a while?
I m having my wall charger installed in a week and I d rather spend the money now and go bigger than have an under-sized breaker wire gauge to worry about in the future.
YukonBurger
2017-09-19 21:26:42
16
dn8ewv3
No one knows. But it seems like a logical number. At 30+ miles added per hour that s enough for almost all your daily travels. If you go any further a supercharger makes more sense. A higher charging capacity at home doesn t make much sense considering how many superchargers are out there already. It would only make sense for people who travel a lot AND don t have supercharger access along their routes. Which those people are nearly nonexistent especially with even more supercharger rollout.
Lancaster61
2017-09-19 21:31:34
9
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
4qxzav
Does it still make sense to reserve a Model 3?
Considering almost half a million preorders would there still be an advantage to preordering? Or would it almost yield the same result when you just walk in the first day to see the car and order it right then and there?
davidthecalmgiant
2016-07-02 16:50:30
20
d4wrakd
There could be another wave of reservations after the 2nd reveal. You should get in before then.
_gosolar_
2016-07-02 17:23:21
34
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
6axu73
Does model 3 lock the door handle swivels for anti-theft purposes?
One of the benefits of receding door handles is that that car thieves (the ones that steal stuff from inside a car) are deterred because there is no handle to pull on and check if the door is unlocked. I m curious if Model 3 locks the swivel when the doors are locked to accomplish the same thing?
teslafolife
2017-05-13 13:32:25
27
dhi886r
That would be awesome. If it prevented the push in. I wish I knew the answer to this one.
110110
2017-05-13 13:39:32
28
Tesla phone key functionality
4mvgow
Does my Tesla contribute to fleet-learning when Autopilot is off?
I had been trying to maximize autopilot use under the assumption that this is the best way to contribute to the fleet s learning curve. But it occurs to me that the best time for a Tesla to learn is probably when autopilot is off -- the car could constantly be assessing what autopilot WOULD do and compare that to what the driver does and any discrepancies show the need for further analysis. That provides constant useful data. When autopilot is on the only real learning moments are when the driver takes over but that is sporadic. Does anyone know? Not to be communist about it but I do like the idea of contributing to the hive mind as much as I can.
[deleted]
2016-06-06 21:42:17
27
d3yn75l
Tesla s head of Autopilot recently revealed in a recent talk that yes they are learning even when Autopilot isn t enabled.
calebelston
2016-06-06 22:02:43
31
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
dgl9dt
Does parking behind another car affect supercharger charging speeds
I know parking next to each other does but what about because I was gonna park behind him. He was like You gonna kill my charge park somewhere else! I was like I m not parking next to you He was like I know what I m talking about I used to sell these don t start an issue I was like You re the one starting an issue .
PrettyPersistant
2019-10-11 21:02:44
29
f3cvv5x
He was like and I was like but he was like so I went like
ElonMousk
2019-10-11 21:20:28
96
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
vtdzx9
Does radar come back on a 2017 S if I opt out of FSD beta?
Like the title says. If I opt out will I get radar back? I m done with beta. I wanted it and was one of the first to get it but it s just not for me. I cannot stand the amount of phantom breaking that s become more prevalent after every software update. and a basic left turn that worked in previous releases but want to drunkenly roam off into the opposite direction. My final straw was 200 mile trip last weekend. Phantom breaking was literally every 2 or 3 minutes. It was so bad I shut down cruise control all together. This shit never happened with radar working.
Starch-Wreck
2022-07-07 08:51:25
62
if74sg5
Tesla needs to stop putting everything into the pipe dream of robotaxis and start putting most of their AI attention on what is achievable and far more useful: level 3 highway driving.
garbageemail222
2022-07-07 12:13:52
63
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
3gidyl
Does riding in the Model S help to put babies and toddlers to sleep the same way that ICE cars do?
I don t really know why kids go to sleep so easy in cars in the first place so I m not sure if removing the ICE changes anything by reducing sound or the way the car handles. Being able to help your kid get a nap can be important sometimes. It would be nice to know that my future car will still be able to do this. I m also curious. Edit: Thank you! Well that answers that question.
OPVFTW
2015-08-10 20:58:40
11
ctyf672
It works for us. Even with no engine the road noise and normal rumble will do it.
Daduck
2015-08-10 21:26:24
14
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
gh6jkh
Does self drive know which side of the road to drive automatically?
So I am considering getting FSD Tesla in the UK but enjoy road trips etc into Europe. Will the self drive know it s in Europe and adjust to the correct side or is it locked to the country of purchase? Thanks
geeky-hawkes
2020-05-10 18:22:10
14
fq7256w
It works perfectly! I live in continental Europe (Switzerland) but frequently travel to UK (or at least I did it before Coronavirus...) It switches side the moment you get out of the Chunnel. I also set up a driver profile called wrong side which slightly adjust the mirrors and changes the Km to miles so I can see in the car the same numbers I see on the roads.
f205v
2020-05-10 20:00:10
32
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
4dm5bi
Does someone have info regarding every time someone said Tesla would fail and they proved them wrong? I m tired of my coworkers saying Tesla will fail and I need research to back myself up but my Google searches have turned up little.
I m an engineer as are my co-workers and they fit the stereotype of the arrogant asshole engineer. They re also old republicans and I m a young democrat so they think I m just a stupid unwise kid. My coworkers heard the news that I pre-ordered my Model 3 and they keep shit-talking me that Tesla will fail and that I gave Tesla an interest free loan and I ll never see that money come back. Tesla has no idea how to make a mass production car. Elon Musk seems like a nice guy but he has no idea what he is doing. u beginner you re just upset with us because we are injecting a little reality into your dream. The worst one is an early 50s guy who worked on the shuttle program with NASA and sarcastically says My many years on Earth and industry experience is meaningless though u beginner you re right Tesla will do fine and I don t know anything. I ve argued against most of this but I need more facts. I saw a comment the other day listing things like - Tesla will never sell one roadster (then they did) - Tesla will never profit on roadsters (then they did) - Tesla will never sell Model S (then they did) - etc. I m getting pretty sick of it but I don t have the facts to argue back. Does anyone have a pretty decent list showing major times when Tesla was expected to fail but never did? I generally ignore it because these guys are obviously trolls who clearly don t have their facts straight but I d still like to have my facts straight in case I need to argue in the future. I wish I could find this info for myself via Google but my research has been fruitless thus far. *Thanks for the conversation everyone. I ve enjoyed discussing this and I ve learned a lot. Although the plan is to ignore their trolling I m glad to have some facts to protect me in the case of an argument. They re old fools but that doesn t mean I can t try to enlighten them.*
beginner-
2016-04-06 15:10:13
74
d1s72bx
I would just ignore it and enjoy the satisfaction of driving the best car ever made in a fewish months.
gsxdsm
2016-04-06 15:16:51
55
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
bfomt5
Does summon not stop for anyone else?
I need to tap STOP about five times before the car will respond. Sometimes it just doesn t respond at all. Hold to summon does work better but is annoying. I ve found myself running to the car to pull the door handle so it won t back into my pool more times than I would like to admit. Google Pixel 3 I don t know how to flare on mobile sorry mods
YukonBurger
2019-04-21 13:09:28
14
elf5ixv
Not an answer but for the sake of all that is holy get a barrier the car recognizes so it can t drive itself into your pool. Also change to hold mode for summon so you have to hold the button for it to keep moving. If it loses connection it stops problem solved.
deeceefar2
2019-04-21 13:31:28
21
Smart Summon Limitations
m74lry
Does tesla model 3 have blindspot monitoring yet?
I have always had blindspot monitoring on all my cars as I cant imagine living without it. Its a big safety net for changing lanes quickly. I also hate looking back when changing lanes as it delays the lane changing when I have to do it quickly and its just annoying. Last time I test drove the model 3 it didnt have it. Have they implemented anything similar now? If not how do you deal with it?
rupok2
2021-03-17 16:42:10
11
gr9jytq
This subreddit: who cares that the yoke isn t practical and there s no gear shift self driving is the future you won t need it!1!1!1 Also this subreddit: learn to drive and stop relying on technology kid
mandrous2
2021-03-17 18:31:33
52
Tesla Sentry Mode Setup
vwoeop
Does tesla work in every country?
So I live in Iraq and I want to buy a 2021 tesla model3 in Canada or USA but there is no charging stations or any official tesla company in my country. Will I be able to drive it normally update the software and charge it at home?
Southern-Chest6720
2022-07-11 17:48:27
69
ifr5soa
I think your 2 biggest obstacles would be: 1) Lack of service center or mobile technicians: If you happen to NEED service you ll have no recourse (unless you can confirm before purchase you would have 3rd party options in your country?). You could attempt to do some service items yourself (like replace 12V which is a common fail item) but other issues you might not be able to do anything. 2) Charging options: As long as you can reliably &amp safely charge at home with the appropriate adapters (i.e. likely a home charger with a CCS plug &amp use the Tesla adapter is probably the most common unless you get the Tesla wall mount itself) you ll be fine knowing that your away from home charging options maybe be either very limited or non-existent (which might be an issue for long trips). Other than that...it s a car with 4 wheels so you could drive one in Antarctica indefinitely if you wanted as long as it can be recharged &amp nothing broke down on it. 😁
kewe316
2022-07-11 18:30:00
66
Tesla Challenges in Germany
ie39jk
Does the $100 order fee not go towards the car?
I was under the impression that when I paid $100 that it went toward the car not toward an order fee . Back when they charged $2 500 as the refundable deposit it went toward the car so I assumed it was the same for the $100. But judging from the order agreement it just seems tacked on top of the car + destination fees. Is this right? Edit for update: I just spoke to someone at my local showroom and they clarified that the final price will reflect an additional credit of $100 on top of the $100 you already paid. This effectively puts the $100 towards the price of the car. So in reality the final documents should show an order fee of $0 PLUS a credit of $100. &amp #x200B &amp #x200B https: preview.redd.it wgvv85a4oei51.png?width=413&amp format=png&amp auto=webp&amp s=ca92ad8270fd5ee4e18cee56efcecd3b556ff6d6
cpmajai
2020-08-21 19:17:07
27
g2cuoaf
Correct. It s additional now.
feurie
2020-08-21 19:17:57
28
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
o4ao9v
Does the $2k Performance Boost Affect the Range?
Looking between the Model3 Performance and Long Range and wanted to know if the performance upgrade has a noticable impact on the overall range? Kind of favoring getting a long range cause of my commute but would 100% get the performance upgrade if I went that route so wanted to know if that preference is lessened due to range reduction. Thanks for any insight!
MillerLiteGuy1970
2021-06-20 17:32:31
23
h2g9q33
If you re flooring it then yes.
Tesla_Neytiri
2021-06-20 18:07:29
86
Electric Performance Car Comparison
jszye3
Does the 2021 Model 3 have a heated steering wheel?
Hey all I ve been a long time Tesla fan and I m coming close to getting a new Tesla. However I live in colder climates and I know that I would absolutely love a heated steering wheel. However I couldn t find concrete evidence of the 2021 model 3 has a heated steering wheel or not. Could anyone confirm or deny this? I m actually looking at getting the 2021 model Y when that comes out but I m hoping if the model 3 has a heated steering wheel it will carry over to the model Y.
Knaj910
2020-11-12 18:23:53
33
gc2r6r8
In before the people who think cabin preconditioning makes up for not having heated steering wheel or cooled seats.
run-the-joules
2020-11-12 19:21:17
55
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
k0hd9h
Does the 2021 Model 3 have an adjustable headrest?
I want a Model 3. The problem: my dad has a 2018 Model 3 and from driving it I already know that the jutting-forward position of the head restraint is a dealbreaker. I have a bad back and sitting with healthy upright posture is not optional for me. No other car I ve driven has ever forced me into such a hunched-forward posture. It s impossible to sit up straight. The head restraint pushes my head forward forcing me to slump like a hunchback. Within 20 minutes of sitting that way I m in pain. I ve tried adjusting the seat but no amount of tweaking can fix the fact that the headrest sticks out several inches from the rest of the seat. This isn t a matter of whiplash protection: other cars that meet the same safety standards don t have this problem. Can the 2021 Model 3 headrest be adjusted? Not just up down but forward back. So that the headrest is in a relatively straight line with the rest of the seat and not pushing the driver s head forward. Thanks! I really want one of these cars. Just need to know I can drive it without ruining my spine.
DangerPretzel
2020-11-25 00:27:23
12
gdi60x9
Only you know you but... on getting my Model 3 I also hated the headrest but within a week or two it became fine if anything better that previous vehicles.
SpellingJenius
2020-11-25 00:49:50
12
Car seat configurations in Tesla
7j4i0t
Does the 3 have a heated steering wheel?
Haven t seen any confirmation one way or the other. I m hoping a current owner can put this question to rest.
GiveMeThemPhotons
2017-12-11 19:19:40
22
dr3jyw0
negative i asked
boominternet
2017-12-11 19:21:44
17
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
hdu2bt
Does the Cyber truck or any of the tesla s have a spare tire?
Was just thinking after watching leno s garage with the model Y. He has blown three tires with his model S due to pot holes he said. Just got me wondering does the cyber truck (or for that matter any of the teslas) have spare tires?
Marvin2021
2020-06-22 15:09:19
10
fvn9dda
No neither do quite a number of new gas cars these days.
Eldanon
2020-06-22 15:37:25
26
Tire and Wheel Maintenance
c3jgkt
Does the Model 3 SR+ still have fun acceleration?
We ve all seen the acceleration videos of the performance version accelerations but I can t really find any of the SR+ on youtube for some reason. I m getting one soon and I was wondering if it is still fun to launch and whether or not it feels zippy? Thanks!
Tetrylene
2019-06-22 01:28:08
41
errd511
It depends on your definition of fun. 5.6s to 100kmph is faster than the majority of cars on the road.
BabyYeggie
2019-06-22 01:30:13
43
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
6rei6z
Does the Model 3 have Slacker and TuneIn?
I may have missed this before but I haven t seen much information on the Model 3 s audio system ... Does it come with Slacker streaming and TuneIn radio?
wangchuck
2017-08-03 18:49:24
15
dl4ig4v
There has been a lot of speculation that Slacker will be replaced by Spotify but it hasn t happened. Slacker does have some unique features shows that would be missed like the ABC News channel but Spotify has the better music library. Then Musk hinted about them doing their own music streaming service for their cars which seems a little extreme to me. I think it s safe to assume you ll get ~~Spotify~~ Slacker and TuneIn in your Model 3.
majesticjg
2017-08-03 19:57:12
5
Spotify Gapless Playback
6rytbs
Does the Model 3 have a 12V lead-acid battery?
If the Model 3 does have a 12V lead-acid battery is it managed well and kept charged by the larger drive battery to the extend that a 100W continuous load can be attached to the 12V auxiliary outlet in the center console? Pics anyone?
gc2488
2017-08-06 15:05:57
24
dl8q6jl
I think the Model Y was the first that was going to shed the reliance of it. And even that might have been scrapped because Elon said on the latest earnings call they are going to use Model 3 as the base for the Y.
brainded
2017-08-06 15:15:19
16
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
91hjbt
Does the Model 3 have a CO2 detector to auto engage air recirculating?
Elon says model S X has best in world air quality with filters and CO2 detector. He said model 3 has second best but filters won t fit. I hear model 3 owners mention they don t smell outside orders. Does the 3 have a CO2 detector and auto engage recirculation? I really hope so because that feature is amazing. I manually do this when I see those shorty cars trucks polluting in front of me. Sometimes I m not fast enough and I get skunked.
mjezzi
2018-07-24 13:48:57
16
e2y25k4
I just drove through Yosemite which has a massive forest fire burning nearby. About halfway through the park the air was thick and brown with smoke maybe 20 feet of visibility almost panic inducing it was so thick - but I couldn t smell it in the car. Pretty amazing really.
beenyweenies
2018-07-24 14:21:55
11
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
72gv0p
Does the Model 3 lock in the charging cable like the S and X?
I would like to know with certainty that while charging with a Tesla charger the cable cannot be removed (I m aware that if one uses a charging adapter that the cable can be removed even if the adapter remains locked in place).
Mr_Salty_Peanuts
2017-09-26 00:49:55
17
dniisdx
It would have to a locking mechanism is required by code to draw more than 16 amps.
Heliocentrism
2017-09-26 02:10:31
27
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
gjgjo3
Does the Model S 2020 have a pedestrian noise maker like the Model 3?
I tried searching but cant find the answer. Edit: Thank you all
Party9137
2020-05-14 06:05:42
16
fql4mpd
Don t believe so I think the law is 50% of vehicles produced after September 2019 need to be in compliance then all cars produced starting September 2020. I believe just the 3 and maybe Y now make up that number. I m assuming Tesla will include them in the X and S come September 2020. Edit: this is for the U.S. too not sure on other countries.
Yethik
2020-05-14 08:47:59
19
Tesla Model 3 Audio Experience
o29mxx
Does the Model S Plaid have 5G vs LTE?
I ve been looking everywhere but The Google isn t showing any articles about it. Thanks
mparseg
2021-06-17 22:25:17
15
h25rr1q
Unlikely. I work in telecom and manufacturers are still developing 5G modems for use in IoT applications like in car connectivity. We ll probably start to see 5G adoption by early 2022 or later. LTE and LTE-A are still very strong suitors and can push upwards of 1.5gbs network permitting.
Thiscantbelegalcanit
2021-06-18 01:25:10
49
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
6e81ik
Does the Model X know how much you tow ?
If you tow something does the Model X tell you how much it is and does not let you drive when you tow more than 2250 kg ? Or could you tow how much you want ( even if it would kill the range and would not be good for the car) ? I just ask this because I would like to see how much the Model X could tow for a short period of time. Like setting a new world record for towing something in a electric vehicle .
skopf87
2017-05-30 15:30:49
11
di8iadj
The car knows how much energy it is using and that directly relates to weight. It knows the temperatures of the cells discharging. It knows the temperature of the electric drive motors. Does it tell you? Sure. It will say *Service Needed*.
Eriamjh1138
2017-05-30 18:11:22
7
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
h0ykxx
Does the Tesla Model Y have features that other models currently don t have?
Looking to pick up a Tesla in the next few months as an extra car. I m looking for the most modern or technologically advanced model. I know Tesla upgrades their software regularly but I m wondering if there are features that Model Y has that the 3 and the S don t. From what I ve found the only difference is pretty much a charging pad that the Model 3 will come with soon. Is there anything else?
az116
2020-06-11 12:42:12
16
ftouv0m
Heat pump
arsnlhenry14
2020-06-11 12:42:54
57
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
71oc8s
Does the Tesla music service include audio books or comedy?
Gave up resisting and bought a model S today. Bought the showroom model I test drove so hopefully I have it soon. Sales guy said it comes with four years of some music music. I listen to audiobooks or stand up comedy as much as I listen to music. Does that service include audio books or stand up comedy recordings?
Everyusernametaken19
2017-09-22 03:10:19
10
dnc9kvk
You misunderstood. It comes with a comical attempt at a music service.
original_evanator
2017-09-22 03:34:16
16
Tesla Model 3 Audio Experience
6k7xbx
Does the battery capacity affect maximum regen braking intensity?
My thought is that since the maximum charging rate of the battery depends on its capacity would a larger battery have a stronger regen braking effect? Or is the maximum regen capped in such a way that even the smallest capacity batteries reach the maximum? Regen braking was the feature I liked most when I test drove a Model S and if a larger battery increases the regen that might be another reason to choose a higher capacity battery. Not having to use the brake at all is just amazing. Sorry if this has been answered before or is common knowledge I couldn t find an answer by using reddit search and googling.
Fahrradkette
2017-06-29 12:13:48
43
djjzdlf
Regen maxes out at about 60kW which is well below what any of the batteries can take if they re not near 100% charged. You lose some or all regen if you do a range charge and it comes back once you drive a bit and drain some of the charge but that s all.
mikeash
2017-06-29 13:00:16
20
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
332mz1
Does the battery drain overnight if not plugged in?
I am considering buying a model S but I live in an apartment complex and don t have an outlet in my garage. Not sure about the rules on trying to get one out in. But I live .5 mile from a charging station. And was thinking of just using that.
[deleted]
2015-04-18 22:53:52
13
cqgx86c
Same boat here. I don t think the nightly drain is considerable anymore. How much do you drive per day?
rypalmer
2015-04-18 22:56:00
8
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
7gapnc
Does the current tax plan that the senate will vote on next week remove the EV tax credit? Or leave it in?
Trying to decide on picking up an MS before year end.
readytojenga
2017-11-29 04:59:38
12
dqhrv28
EV credits now only for Comcast.
donsanewmoniker
2017-11-29 05:13:47
16
EV Tax Credit Impact
4eezck
Does the general public know what a Tesla is by now?
Do people still ask what is that? or do they know? I drove a Tesla Model S for a few days about two years ago it seems most people had no clue what it was and would ask.
limousineliberal
2016-04-12 06:55:02
26
d1znr1w
I would say the majority of people still do not.
GeekLad
2016-04-12 11:28:23
25
Tesla Model 3 Review
6n3jv4
Does the inner color of the supercharger signify anything?
Ive noticed some superchargers have a grey inner (where you hang the plug) color while others have red. Does this correlate with charging ability? Or did they just switch the colors after a certain time period?
sheltz32tt
2017-07-13 18:31:15
12
dk6fvmq
You re probably seeing the OG style SuperChargers vs the current one. The OG where blocky and all white with red Tesla lettering. The current ones have more of a rounded exterior and have red inside with aluminum pillars on the side.
MaxKW
2017-07-13 18:34:31
10
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
4dn390
Does the model x have around view cameras?
Basically cameras on all sides similar to this http: qx60deals.com wp-content uploads 2014 03 30-All-Around-View-Monitor.jpg
trinitesla
2016-04-06 18:31:36
10
d1skd60
Still wonder why all around dashcams aren t standard equipment yet. They ll arguably be more important for liability reasons in self drivers.
robotzor
2016-04-06 19:53:15
8
Tesla Sentry Mode Setup
b9xjp9
Does the motor turn in the opposite direction in Reverse or is it through mechanical gearing
I was watching this video talking about Tesla and other EV motors ( [https: youtu.be pgu6mkKZwNg?t=9m14s](https: youtu.be pgu6mkKZwNg?t=9m14s) ) and in it they showed how the stator induces the motor to turn by pulling the magnetic fields. I was wondering if the motors are designed to also go in the opposite direction for Reverse or is it spinning in just one direction and reverse is done through gearing reversal just like in reciprocal ICE engines? &amp #x200B &amp #x200B
Waiting_for_Model3
2019-04-05 22:25:28
12
ek7kzh0
The motor turns in the opposite direction.
lambaus
2019-04-05 22:27:08
32
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
5lj3rt
Does the new 2.0 update improve blind spot warning?
As a current Lexus Volvo and Audi owner I m used to the blind spot sensors on the mirrors which have almost become a standard feature on even base model cars. When I test drive the tesla I was almost ready to buy one when I noticed this basic feature was absent. I was told my sales agent that this feature would be avail with upcoming updates but I m obviously not going to drop 100k on a verbal promise and would like to see it in person. If anyone has had the 2.0 update I d love to hear if this basic yet crucial feature has now been added? Thanks
lightfighter06
2017-01-02 03:37:31
16
dbw3nfa
The last generally available update included a blind spot indicator in the instrument panel.
beemer2k
2017-01-02 03:48:43
7
Tesla Sentry Mode Setup
iyyk1a
Does the new 4860 cell revolutionize non vehicle batteries as well?
Can other battery companies begin integrating this technology and start implementing it into other battery applications like to replace current cobalt lithium ions. Can it be used to develop better AA or AAA batteries? How exactly does this affect the non vehicle battery market.
BabyPandaJr
2020-09-24 14:44:43
33
g6fyzfy
IMHO I would love it if Tesla used the new cells to drastically reduce noise pollution from gas mowers and other tools gardeners use around here. It s ridiculous how loud those stupid two stroke engines are. Never mind the pollution... I would think the form factor is fine for garden power tools. And the tabless cells should allow charge times that make it practical to charge between job sites.
twoeyes2
2020-09-24 17:12:04
25
Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries
nytm9g
Does the new Model S Plaid have automatic doors like the Model X or nah
Debating on which model to get S or X plaid versions. Ik S is faster but I also plan on getting a roadster when it comes out which would beat the S out of the water. I like the design of the S over the X but feel like the X has more advantages. Which one would you get if you were in my position? Honestly considering getting them both and the cybertruck for my business. Might convert the whole family to Tesla at that point.
ChahelT
2021-06-13 10:38:10
20
h1mnuvg
&gt getting a roadster when it comes out I would make zero life decisions based on any Tesla Roadster expectation
obvnotlupus
2021-06-13 15:17:33
89
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
mk533h
Does the new facelift Model S comes with a heat pump?
I went through most of the info available about the 21 refresh S but couldn t really find anything about improvements to climate control other than cooled seats. I mean it would make sense since right now even the 3s are upgraded to come with a heat pump which would definitely be an improvement in semi-cold regions
sepehr_brk
2021-04-04 21:16:24
143
gtdyjks
End of year earnings call. Elon said whole lineup will have heat pump
Error__Loading
2021-04-04 21:32:27
185
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
2v4wad
Does the pano roof on the Model S weigh more?
I ve seen mention on other cars that adding a sunroof moonroof adds a decent amount of weight to the vehicle. So... 1) what s the weight for a model S with the pano roof and the same car without 2) Is that weight significant enough to impact the range of the car
dbkon
2015-02-07 22:51:44
11
coejq1u
According to [this thread](http: my.teslamotors.com en_AU forum forums can-weight-differences-options-car-impact-performance-p85d) the pano roof adds 150lbs. I haven t been able to find actual specs on it or different cars posting actual weights focusing on the pano roof so I have no idea if that is true. If you look farther down in the discussion section a user snowy does some rough calculations based on weight and energy usage. I have no idea if that kind of calculation is correct (terrible with math) but if so and the 150lbs citation is correct - it seems with pano roof the energy needed increases by ~1-3%. If that is correct adding the pano roof in theory impacts the range by 2-8 rated miles (depending on S60 vs. S85 and 1-3%). When taking a look at this also remember that the S60 is lighter than the S85 and also newer cars are lighter than older cars. Apparently older cars (especially those that have the reinforced bumper rear child seats) come in at ~4600-4700lbs while a newer S60 with no rear seats or pano is closer to ~4400. Someone please correct me if my math assumptions are wrong.
dieabetic
2015-02-08 00:49:04
9
Tesla ownership feedback and issues
3cjb5l
Does the regenerative breaking cause the break lights to come on? How is it determined if they come on?
I know that the regenerative breaking causes the car to slow down a lot if it s turned up but does this cause the break lights to come on in addition to when the driver manually pushes the breaks? If so any idea what the threshold for this is? In an ICE car you might just ease off the gas to drop from 30-&gt 40 and no break lights would show what happens if you do this in a Tesla and just slightly ease of the gas to get light breaking regen? Do the lights kick in whenever regen is in effect or only when over a certain threshold?
PhonicUK
2015-07-08 10:29:20
15
cswd86m
Go to your control panel (charging icon) that shows the side view of the car. The brake lights light up on the screen when they are activated by the brake pedal or the regenerative braking.
bc17101
2015-07-08 17:04:00
12
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
fn8487
Does the sidemirrors autodimm
Do the side mirrors on the Model Y auto-dimm? My current Skoda 2011 do that and i love it. So would like that feature on my next car.
TeslaDriverSoon
2020-03-22 21:58:35
13
fl82kfz
They removed the dimming side mirrors on the 2020 Model 3 so I would assume that the new Model Y would not have dimming side mirrors.
blu3t3sla
2020-03-22 22:02:39
16
Tesla Sentry Mode Setup
mh635n
Does the smart summon feature know to drive the correct direction through one way parking lanes?
If you went shopping at a Walmart Target Publix or any other big box store these stores often have parking lots made of several one way and two way lanes. If you parked in a row that had a one way lane with the direction of travel facing away from the store would the smart summon understand that it has to follow the direction of travel for that lane and drive around to a lane the faces the store?
Railman20
2021-03-31 13:27:01
17
gswxy8b
lol let s be real Smart Summon is no better than my dog driving the car
liambolling
2021-03-31 13:53:28
59
Smart Summon Limitations
6r6cr7
Does the standard model 3 have cruise control
Nothing fancy just good ol fashiined hold speed and resume speed. Thanks!
aTip4You
2017-08-02 18:46:20
44
dl2my9s
Yes
tang_police
2017-08-02 18:50:30
27
Tesla Autopilot Performance Review
l66i6z
Does the structural 4680 cells mean harder battery repairs?
So from what I ve seen the 4680 cells are going to be built in to the structure of the Model S Plaid. This should help with production costs and weight reduction over a standard battery pack. But how would you repair it if the battery fails? If its part of the structure wont you have to break through the structure to replace it?
galaxyboi10
2021-01-27 15:14:01
18
gkyflxd
Technically the battery will be harder to break much harder. But if you were to be involved in an accident that breaks a solid brick of battery it should be written off. Surrounding component or frames won t survive.
xg357
2021-01-27 15:17:24
41
Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries
7dlxso
Does the truck work in a UK Europe market?
American trucks are a different shape and the rules are different to ours so will it sell here ?
Kezolt
2017-11-17 16:04:06
18
dpz4997
I ve read here and there that the rules are going to be changed though. Relaxed. To allow for (more) aerodynamical designs. Ie. more than the flat walls we have now : So I m assuming that if it doesn t fit in the currently allowed envelope that it will fit the new relaxed one. This is really a case of legislation leading to the opposite of what was needed.
MacGyverBE
2017-11-17 20:35:05
7
Tesla Challenges in Germany
3ivpg4
Does the undercarriage of a Model S rust?
Almost every vehicle I ve ever owned has had the undercarriage rust or corrode just curious if a Model S experiences this as well (I m aware the aluminum bar and the titanium pack covers for debris shielding aren t reactive but am curious about the rest of the vehicle s undercarriage).
toomuchtodotoday
2015-08-29 20:13:52
19
cuk9fqs
Lots of wrong information being given out in this thread. You guys sound like used car salesmen. The Model S undercarriage isn t made out of steel so it doesn t rust. Aluminum does however corrode. And even as aggressive as you may be with undercoating corrosion is inevitable especially if you live in parts of the world with heavily salted roads. You can inhibit corrosion by getting regular undercoating + thorough car washes on a regular basis but the undercarriage is *not* corrosion-proof.
Contraband_Fruit
2015-08-30 00:42:40
14
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
3hlffz
Does the used market suggest that the original P85 has almost no additional value over the S85?
Here are two cars within spitting distance of the same mileage and features both in the same market. Both have 19 wheels pano roof nappa interior tech pkg w o autopilot. 2014 S85 with 20 106 miles. No audio upgrade. $71 200 http: www.teslamotors.com models preowned P52181 2013 P85 18 277 miles. High fidelity sound. $71 500. http: www.teslamotors.com models preowned P20557 The other options look about in line. What gives here?
ViperRT10Matt
2015-08-19 15:30:08
20
cu8c7i8
Those are just single data points. Here s a significant sampling: http: imgur.com fjaEj94
Bet_TSLA
2015-08-19 15:36:32
13
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
blicc3
Does this feeling ever go away? First time owner
Like when you walk out your door and your just all smiles as you walk to your car? I got the white model 3 LR. The over all feeling of just happiness does that ever go away lol cause damn the last few months have been great. I m so glad I got this baby. Thanks universe. And thanks to the Tesla team for making such an awesome product. Customer for life.
dogeracerr
2019-05-06 22:01:30
65
emoqjqi
I don t believe it goes away. Although when it s dirty I feel a great deal of shame.
croninsiglos
2019-05-06 22:40:33
63
Tesla Model 3 Review
6nq2lt
Does this post have any merit?
I saw [this post](https: www.reddit.com r cars comments 6n49tx just_a_friendly_reminder_to_take_a_very_careful ) on r cars and wanted to hear from some people who actually own a Tesla and have for a while. The guy paints a pretty grave picture of reliablity I haven t heard anyone say Teslas are that bad. I see his account is a throw away but that doesn t necessarily mean he s lying just that he didn t want to be identified. I have a model 3 reservation and I was already feeling nervous when I heard Tesla was skipping the beta phase to get to production faster. This guy just spooked me a bit. I looked in the comments of that post and everyone seems to be agreeing with him. Can I hear some input from actual owners?
Grintor
2017-07-17 01:34:27
20
dkbctjc
Thing is that things can happen on the factory and delivery. This can happen to any manufacturer. So OP s story might be real regardless of throwaway account or the like. However it looks like r cars bash Tesla pretty bad. Why is that?
exjr_
2017-07-17 01:44:32
15
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
bfgt6p
Does your Tesla ever shiver?
Does your Tesla Model 3 ever tremble like a little shiver? I ve had my car for over a year now since December and for some reason this happens to my car randomly sometimes. I m not sure if it s only cold relatively for Los Angeles weather. If anyone has experienced this and knows why it happens I would appreciate an explanation as to why it happens. Thank you.
sightalignment
2019-04-20 20:38:59
12
eldj05h
If you re talking about when you re driving it s usually the lane departure warning.
legolasxvi
2019-04-20 20:40:22
37
Tesla Model Travel Experiences
k7lmj0
Does your key show up in your phone s Bluetooth Devices?
Trying to solve a mystery. I noticed a new and slightly odd Bluetooth device in my phone s (iPhone 12 Pro Max) device list. It s a long string of numbers and letters. There s no ability to inspect or forget the device (no “i” like other devices have). Any other iPhone owners see this when phone key is enabled? My car is listed as a separate device labeled “Tesla Model Y” and I assume this is for music phone connectivity.
Make_a_video
2020-12-06 03:01:52
10
gerqmpi
Those devices are the iBeacons broadcast by the car s BTLE-based phone key system. There can be as many as ~~three~~ four.
thisisreadonly
2020-12-06 03:04:41
12
Tesla phone key functionality
cfq2u6
Dog Mode is a godsend.
We like our Tesla for different reasons but we especially love dog mode. What is dog mode? 1. We can leave the AC running while away (like in a restaurant for example). We don t worry about the engine overheating the coolant into bursting because it s just a battery still running. 2. The Tesla phone app let s us remotely monitor the battery drain rate and the current temperature in the cabin while away. 3. The vehicle s big screen display shows the current interior temp so that a passerby looking into the windows and seeing our doggie inside alone doesn t feel they must break the windows to save the dog. They see the car declaring it knows the dog is there and it s managing a 70 F climate inside. We choose our Tesla over other market options for even this one reason if there wasn t other reasons too. Our dog **hates** when we leave him behind and always prefers waiting in the car for us than staying alone at home.
cooriah
2019-07-20 19:54:12
77
eubrx34
Lol need a speaker or scrolling sign stating “this is an EV it s keeping my animal cool please fk off Karen”
buryitz
2019-07-20 20:44:44
45
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
ao5t89
Dog mode = inside camera mode for your pet
Elon is being a bit coy but dog mode will allow you to see your little pupper inside the car when you are away( model 3 only) It will also set the temperature to your choice and have a message on the screen that the dog (pet) is okay. I figured folks might be wondering what “dog mode” actually means. Stay tuned.
dellfanboy
2019-02-07 16:59:10
101
efylgt0
I believe it was Mark Twain who once said about dogs it s not the size of the dog in the fight it s the size of the screen that displays your dog is in a climate controlled EV.
iconew
2019-02-07 18:29:55
68
Tesla HVAC Functionality
k72kub
Dog mode failed to prevent this good samaritan
&amp #x200B [Someone took the time to write this note and put it on my window but apparently never saw the screen with dog mode enabled. ¯\\\_\(ツ\)\_\ ¯](https: preview.redd.it 66e66qs4ab361.jpg?width=2680&amp format=pjpg&amp auto=webp&amp s=f75f44bfa4592e4c55416c8895e289305ddeae91)
gfoo
2020-12-05 06:24:39
139
geok386
at least he didnt damage your property lol
King_Prone
2020-12-05 07:49:10
131
Tesla HVAC Functionality
cieo0z
Dog mode legalities?
Today was my first day using dog mode on my model 3 with my pup in the back seat and both times i had a run in with somebody. At the supermarket a man came sprinting up to me to tell me that i forgot to leave my windows down and when I informed him that the ac was on and that the dog was fine he didn t seem to believe me. Then a while later i stopped by Canadian Tire and was inside for only ten minutes but by the time I came out a guy was by my car waiting and told me that he had called the fire department and shortly after a fire engine pulled up. I let the guy know the AC was on and the temperature was on the display and he replied with “ya i know but i was just making sure” which kind of pissed me off because then he just wasted the time of the fire department just cus?.... Now here comes my question. The two firemen were totally understanding today and just went on their way but say the authorities were called and they weren t understanding could I get in trouble at all for leaving my dog in the car even with dog mode on? And if someone went ahead and decided to break one of my windows would they be liable? It s been very frustrating that nobody seems to even look into the car to see that it says the AC is on but are willing to go ahead and call for help. Would putting a sign on my window too be a good idea?
kmseileen
2019-07-27 07:33:32
83
ev4zfua
There are people that drive with their windows down because they think they re going to use up all of the oxygen in the car. You can never fully protect yourself from stupid.
TheKobayashiMoron
2019-07-27 10:50:12
176
Tesla HVAC Functionality
cydh4c
Dog mode turns off air to back seat
I had to work on some code today in the back seat so my daughter turned on dog mode for me. After 2-5 minutes the back seat vents cut out: air was only coming out the front. This isn t a life-threatening problem but I did get a little warmer in the back seat once it shut down. Can anybody else reproduce this? This is a Model 3 at version 2019.32.
MassiveBlowout
2019-09-01 18:19:51
16
eyr80mi
Elon just talked about this https: twitter.com elonmusk status 1164930613649891328?s=19
Gondi63
2019-09-01 18:28:39
17
Tesla HVAC Functionality
c3ou1k
Dog mode works perfectly for the dog but not for the man in the supermarket!
Just had a pretty significant run in with a guy in he supermarket. Tried to explain why it was fine but he told me ‘You have to leave the window open or they ll suffocate still and what I m doin was ‘illegal and disgusting! Came out into the car park to find another guy calling me a [very rude words] and threating to smash the windows in and call the police. The dog was asleep... Anyone else had similar?
RupiRu
2019-06-22 11:54:23
3,700
ers93ne
Strange. Does he think the car is sealed and the dog will consume all available oxygen?
phigment5
2019-06-22 12:18:45
1,490
Tesla HVAC Functionality
hbrwjs
Dome lights will not stay on auto mode and ambient light setting keeps turning off
I am growing frustrated. Since I got my Model 3 I have had the dome lights set to auto so they will come on at night when a door is opened to light up the cabin. I recently noticed that the dome lights were not coming on at night so I checked the settings and saw it was set to off. Odd because I haven t touched it since I got the car over a year ago. I also noticed the ambient lights were turned off (despite the ambient lights actually being on). I toggled the dome lights to auto and the ambient lights back on and I figured that d be it. Nope. Next time I drive at night no dome lights. I ve toggled the settings 3 or 4 times now and it keeps reverting both the dome light and ambient light settings. I thought a recent software update had reverted some settings but it continues to happen even without any software updates preceding. I m at a loss - is this a common issue bug? How do I fix this?
idealdreams
2020-06-19 02:00:27
19
fvanqfh
I believe the dome lights get toggled from auto to off when entering a theater app or arcade game. Hopefully this is fixed in an update.
Swemoph
2020-06-19 02:02:34
20
Tesla Sentry Mode Setup
6pzqvp
Don t Test Drive
We had a Toyota Sienna minivan and it was good. Then we added a LEAF to the stable. The LEAF was amazing so much more enjoyable to drive than the Sienna. Why would I want to drive that piece of crap minivan? Then we replaced the minivan with the S. Now when I have to drive the LEAF I think I don t want to drive this piece of crap. Unless you are prepared to buy do not test drive a Tesla. It s that good.
bigsteeviestyle
2017-07-27 22:59:05
161
dktholp
Leaf does 0-60 in 10 seconds. The first time I drove my wife s Leaf after not driving it for a few months I honestly thought that I forgot to release the parking brake. She was not amused when I told her.
hkibad
2017-07-27 23:43:17
59
Test Driving Tesla Models
d1cgaf
Don t be afraid to change configuration if you re not assigned a VIN. Get the car you want.
Personal anecdote here and surely there are others with different experiences. Apologies for the wall of text. TL DR: Get the car you want. Your delivery specialist likely knows only as much as you do plus conjecture at the SC and your change could put your delivery date earlier even if your delivery specialist says otherwise. I put in my deposit on day one for the Model 3. Held off on getting it for various reasons until someone from Tesla called me wondering why I hadn t purchased. They suggested I take back my deposit and just order normally when I m ready. Cool. No regrets doing that. Finally decided it was time to order as my current car was having problems and the costs of owning a 200k mi Nissan with emerging transmission problems outweighed any reason I could manufacture for not spending on the car I have wanted for years now. I had ordered a white ext black int P3D+ on 7 23 and like everyone who has ordered a white paint recently has been waiting for more than a month when the order status page says two weeks. No real complaints about that other than the slow trickle of updates to eventually let me know of the delay. It would have been nice simply to set my mental expectations for some kind of timeline. Honestly I ll take that any day over being pressured by a dealership. While waiting I ve slowly been convincing myself that I had made a mistake with the black interior. My current car has a black interior and I have loved it but hated it at the same time and I ve been working up there courage to make the change to white. I sent the change request on Friday and I get an email from my advisor yesterday (Saturday) that my car is expected to arrive *later this month* and this change will disrupt that plan. I seriously considered second guessing myself and leaving it. I m no stranger to waiting for what I want though so I told her to go ahead with it fully expecting another month or more of waiting. I wake up this morning grab some coffee and receive a text that I ve been assigned a VIN and to schedule my delivery of a white white P3D+ with FSD. Next week I ll be getting the car I want when all signs pointed to having to wait even longer for changing my mind off the design. The delivery specialist explicitly told me the change will make me wait even longer. I m excited and wanted to assure anyone else who is on the fence waiting that changing your design is not as big of a deal as it s let on. I could of course just be lucky and YMMV. It makes me wonder if the warnings from my specialist were based on facts experiences or just the reluctance to be required to do work on my account to make my requested change. Get the car you want. If I didn t change I d probably still be waiting that month the specialist quoted more waiting for white black. Thanks for reading my rambling excitement.
hlPLrTQopqTM1pL5RTNw
2019-09-08 15:37:57
49
ezkmi5z
From what I can tell the local shops get their cars delivered regardless of need . IE you order a W W SR+ and they won t directly send it to *you* but to your shop. Then it just happens that you get assigned the car. Why do I think this? Talking with the sales reps the past few weeks and getting updates on their inventory. It appears that cars are just shipped to locations and then the matching happens. This is how I was able to switch from a Blue Black AWD to a Red Black P3D- over the phone -- the care just happened to appear in the local inventory. So it sounds like you changed your car configuration to one that no one in your area had reserved. Thus you got an early match than if you had kept the more common configuration.
sir_alvarex
2019-09-08 17:14:19
6
Tesla Delivery Woes
cpt5mm
Don t be stupid like me... avoid non-touchless car washed
Yes I should ve known better. Yes I ve seen people here say going through automated car washes that aren t touchless is a bad idea. Perhaps this will save someone heartache... learn from my mistake don t do it. I ve taken all my cars through those car washes with no issues before. I ve taken my wife s car through them a number of times no visible issues. Took my black Tesla and now I can t unsee those awful tiny scratches EVERYWHERE when the sun shines on it. I m not sure if it s because this is my first black car or the weak clear coat but tiny scratches are everywhere. I hand washed for the first year and really wish I just kept going with that. *sigh*
Eldanon
2019-08-13 13:28:57
336
ewrev6y
The automatic car washes with brushes are a nightmare to anyone that wants to keep their car s paint in good condition. When those brushes contact your paint they re rubbing all of the tiny rocks and debris and other abrasives from the vehicles before yours all over your paint. The old saying goes if you want it done right do it yourself. I stopped using automatic car washes 3 cars ago and bought a pressure washer foamer car drier and other tools and do everything myself now. It takes about an hour start to finish and the outcome is well worth it. In the winter I ll take it through a touchless wash since obviously I can t wash it in the driveway with snow on the ground. The fact that Tesla s paint is embarrassingly thin weak for a $50 000 car also doesn t help any.
idealdreams
2019-08-13 13:41:12
209
Tesla ownership feedback and issues
45moxq
Don t bring cash to reserve Model 3 in stores 3 31
Hey all I check this subreddit like 20+ times a day and haven t seen this info posted. So i called up my nearest store and asked what the details were. No cash bring debit or credit and reservations will happen right when doors open. We don t have to wait for the reveal. Good luck all!
tslaftw
2016-02-13 21:17:27
124
czz0946
Also don t bring $1 000 in cash with you anywhere. If the police find you with that amount of money they can [seize](https: www.aclu.org issues criminal-law-reform reforming-police-practices asset-forfeiture-abuse) it on the presumption that it is related to the drug trade.
bob2049
2016-02-14 00:25:15
63
Tesla Delivery Woes
8vwlh3
Don t expect the media s opinion be positive about Tesla anytime soon.
No matter what milestone they reach no matter how many cars a week they make no matter hat environmental impact they re making no matter how many people in Puerto Rico they are helping no matter how good the upcoming semi Roadster pickup or model Y are going to be. The media makes money by clicks. And the trends seems to be that dissing tesla gets clicks. None of the above is going to change that. Also the short investors and the few industries that tesla is threatening have very deep pockets and I don t want to shock you but they can influence the media with money.
alborz27
2018-07-03 22:46:59
21
e1qwz0j
I agree I don t think there is a single motivation for the negative press but if I had to pick one.... I would say people have egos and don t like to be proven wrong.... It is best ignored ditto for short term share price movements... The only thing that really matters is Tesla hitting their Q3 targets in terms of 5-6K Model 3s per week + 2k Model S X per week and becoming profitable in Q3...... Tesla being proven a success beyond reasonable doubt will not do anything to quell unreasonable doubt... But first things first .. Tesla has to hit their targets... Even if they miss it does not mean they are doomed just that the can is kicked down the road and the debate will rage on... I hoping they hit targets as the debate is tedious boneheaded dry lame and seriously lacking thrusters or anything else next level...
M3FanOZ
2018-07-03 22:59:26
8
Elon Musk Tesla Controversy
5zrh6b
Don t expect to take your little one on a factory tour! Min height 40inches.
We found this out the hard way. We ll take him as soon as he s tall enough though.
guzzle
2017-03-16 16:08:55
33
df0em04
Makes sense I s pose since they make pavement roller coasters.
GeekLad
2017-03-16 16:24:34
13
Car seat configurations in Tesla
n87bke
Don t log out of the Tesla app!
THIS IS SOLVED ALL IS FINE. FINAL UPDATE 2021-05-09 23:50 UTC: My script for generating API access tokens is confirmed working. Nikola is confirmed working as well. For more technical hoomans: Tesla s Akamai WAF seems to have more smarts in it now. Ruby s `Net::HTTP` library receives 403s from Akamai when interacting with the Tesla API from Alpine-based Docker containers but *not* from Debian-based ones. cURL works fine from either container image. I suspect that this is likely due to a bug with the musl-compiled library that rearranges HTTP request headers unfavorably. Overriding the `User-Agent` header isn t enough to circumvent this. UPDATE 2021-05-09 18:25 UTC: Auth seems to be mostly working again. Authentication is broken right now! I thought this was happening for an app I wrote for generating tokens but it seems to be across the board. If you log out you ll get an error saying something like “you re not authorized to access this server.” This affects the official Tesla app as well as any third-party clients like Nikola or Tesla Remote) (For technical folks you ll get a 403 from OAuth2 v3 authorize which is served from Akamai) I ll update when I see that this gets fixed
mrcrassic
2021-05-09 05:20:23
120
gxh4hou
I picked up a Tesla Model 3 last week and couldn t accept delivery because portions of the site involving the Tesla Account were down. They had to submit a special signed form indicating that I had accepted delivery so that I could get my premium trial started later. &amp #x200B I wonder if the two issues are connected? It seems like Tesla is working on something having to do with the accounts or maybe it s just a bug.
BirdBlind
2021-05-09 07:19:54
21
Miscellaneous Tesla Topic