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dcbwi4 | Constant service issues with Model 3. | I own a RWD LR Model 3 that I bought in June of 2018. To date I had at least 10 service issues ranging from replacement of the magnet in the charge port door to replacement of the control arm. I m hearing squeaking from the suspension again and I m beginning to realize that as much as I love this car I don t think I can afford to keep it past the warranty period. I d like to hear from others who bought a Model 3 in 2018 - how is your car holding up ? Have you had many service calls? Am I the only schmuck that has to call Tesla service every month or two? | funny_retardation | 2019-10-02 15:38:14 | 14 | f276stz | June 2018 build. Had service for rattles. That s about it really. | NIGHTHAWK017 | 2019-10-02 15:56:38 | 12 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
bvxrcw | Constantly forgetting non car keys (house shed work keys) | What is everyone doing with your house work keys now that you don t have a set of car keys. My car keys are the only reason I remember to bring my other sets of keys. Anyone constantly forgetting to carry these now? Good news is I normally use my garage anyway and don t need keys but I can see this being a small issue. | snufflefrump | 2019-06-02 14:13:07 | 16 | ept9mlb | Switched my deadbolts to electronic with keypads. Absolutely amazing. Work keys either stay in my car in my work bag or on the shelf in the foyer. | aaronkalb | 2019-06-02 14:21:15 | 28 | Tesla phone key functionality |
qwwx1c | Consumer Reports Rates EVs and Tesla in Particular as unreliable. | Is their Data Correct? I have owned my Tesla since April 2018 and I would call it a very reliable vehicle. Am I the anomaly? https: www.consumerreports.org cro index.htm | barjohn5670 | 2021-11-18 19:02:02 | 90 | hl5tb0w | I think their definition of reliability isn t just does the car break down . Tesla s don t usually break down. But they do seem to have a higher than normal amount of small issues that require service visits. Especially to fix issues that were present from the factory. | petard | 2021-11-18 19:53:36 | 132 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
jjpruz | Consumer Reports ranks Tesla Autopilot distant second to GM Super Cruise - Drive Tesla Canada | The biggest hit on Autopilot was once again the lack of an active driver monitoring system. CR also ranked Autopilot 5 points ahead of Ford s Co-Pilot 360. I think I would still prefer to use Autopilot over Super Cruise (disclaimer: I ve never used Super Cruise). [https: driveteslacanada.ca news consumer-reports-autopilot-super-cruise ](https: driveteslacanada.ca news consumer-reports-autopilot-super-cruise ) | axyprang | 2020-10-28 15:23:43 | 29 | gae020c | Really a junk rating. The tl dr of it is - Tesla is the best by leaps and bounds for everything you expect a self driving vehicle to do but we don t like that it can do it everywhere and that it doesn t monitor the driver s attention the same way as other companies do so it s worse. | SparkySpecter | 2020-10-28 15:25:57 | 180 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
d8njdk | Contacts not syncing since ios 13 | Has anyone noticed an issue where their contacts no are longer syncing to the car after updating to ios 13 on their iphone? I have tried disabling and re-enabling all of the syncing options both on the phone and in the car to no avail. I know Tesla recently did a software update too but that was prior to ios 13 and I m pretty sure it was still working fine after that. Didn t see any posts about this so I m wondering if it s just me? Seems to not be as great about walk up unlock either. It had been working so perfectly. Now I will sometimes have to push the handle in and out a bunch of times or open my app or turn Bluetooth off on or just open the Tesla app. | leopor | 2019-09-24 13:55:39 | 37 | f1bhxdg | Check the apps permission | ubermoxi | 2019-09-24 14:23:20 | 14 | Tesla phone key functionality |
8au9ie | Contextualizing Tesla s debt — and easing worry | A lot of articles with alarmed tones have been published lately about the amount of debt that Tesla owes. This had led some Tesla owners and prospective owners to worry that Tesla might go bankrupt and stop providing Autopilot updates maintaining Supercharging stations etc. Given the information we have right now I think the odds of bankruptcy are low. Tesla s debt needs to be contextualized — something that most of these articles do not do. Specifically how much debt is due when? The total amount due in 2018 is [$487 million](https: www.forbes.com sites jimcollins 2018 04 02 forget-the-autopilot-crash-and-recall-teslas-daunting-debt-repayment-schedule-is-the-real-issue ). The amount due in 2019 is $1.49 billion although the $920 million in [convertible notes](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Convertible_bond) due in March 2019 will likely be converted to stock if in March the stock price is above the $359.87 conversion price. Further context can be provided by looking at Tesla s cash balance and rate of cash burn. As of the end of 2017 Tesla had [$3.37 billion](http: www.rocketfinancial.com Financials.aspx?fID=61929& p=2& pw=2043615& rID=2) in cash. In the fourth quarter of 2017 cash burn was [$277 million](http: www.rocketfinancial.com Financials.aspx?fID=61929& p=1& pw=2043615& rID=3& tID=1& stID=1). In about a month Tesla will report cash burn for the first quarter of 2018 and give us a better idea of how much runway is left. At the same time Model 3 production [is ramping](https: www.bloomberg.com graphics 2018-tesla-tracker ). By the end of the year Model 3 production should switch from burning cash to generating cash. | trenteady | 2018-04-09 00:08:38 | 56 | dx1kqrb | There s also the important factor that going bankrupt actually means restructuring and renegotiating your debt and not closing your doors. So few people seem to understand debt to begin with let alone what is good versus bad debt to hold or what the various types of bankruptcy filings mean. Lots of these people are the same ones that love to go on and on about the US national debt and the national debt clock but have zero understanding of what that debt actually is what it means or what should or should not be done about it. | drdabbles | 2018-04-09 00:17:42 | 36 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dds0nj | Continual problems with Tesla home charger. Don t know what to do | Wondering if someone much smarter than me can provide me with a little help as to what is going on with either my car or my charger. I will try to be brief. I purchased a used 2015 P85D in October of 2017 with 12 000 miles on it. In October 2017 I also get a Tesla home charger installed at my house. I live in a somewhat small town and only two electricians in my town are trained approved by Tesla to install them. Fast forward to October of 2018. I have had minor issues with the car but nothing beyond what I would call minor annoyances. So one day in October of 2018 I plug in my car. I come out later and notice the green light is not on so I go to the circuit breaker panel and see it is tripped. Thinking it might be fluctuation spike in power I think it is a fluke. So I reset the breaker only to hear lots of popping and see smoke. I then manually trip the breaker and call the electrician. Electrician comes out and 90 amp breaker is fried. He replaces it for free thinking it might be a bad breaker. So for the next year everything is fine. Nothing but minor problems. Then a few days ago (October of 2019) I come out and the charger is blank. I walk over to the circuit breaker panel and the breaker is not tripped. So I reset it and the car starts charging again. It looks good so I go back in the house. I then come out an hour or two later and the garage is REALLY hot and there is a bizarre smoky smell. I go over to the panel and manually trip it. I call the electrician and they come out the next morning. Same thing circuit breaker is fried. I call Tesla and they recommend a 100 amp breaker. Electricians look confused. They state we install these all the time and we have never used a 100 amp breaker. And if I understand them correctly they don t think a 100 amp breaker will work or fit. Tesla then recommends lowering the AMPs selected on my car from 72 amps to 60 amps. That is the best compromise we can come up with. So I do that and charge the car. Come home late last night and Tesla is around 15% battery left. I plug up and come in the house only to come out the next morning and battery is at 35%. It is telling me to check power source and the Tesla charger is blank. As a test I manually reset the breaker and I hear the popping sound. I quickly trip it again and call THE electrician who cannot come out until Tuesday. Any idea what might be going on here? At this point I am guessing that it is my car or the charger itself? Anyone had anything similar and what I can do? The closest service center is 150 miles away and as luck may have it I have an appointment there next week. I might bring my charger as well to see if they can find something wrong. | TurkishDrillpress | 2019-10-05 19:30:27 | 16 | f2mh44w | Sounds like you need a new electrician. He didn t do something right if the breaker is overheating. It s not rocket science. Appropriate breaker appropriate wire appropriate torque. | EOMIS | 2019-10-05 19:55:43 | 35 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7l95vi | Continuous Button Press option for Summon Autoparkl - has it been removed? | The only way I m currently able to activate Summon is through the mobile app and by pressing and holding the Forward or Reverse button. However [word](https: www.tesla.com sites default files Model_S_release_notes_7_1_1_us_cn.pdf) on the [internet](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums auto-summon-key-fob) is that I should be able to summon the car just with the keyfob. However I can t get this to work at all. I tried looking in the settings for the require continuous press option but it s not there on the Customise Autopark screen. I also tried double-pressing the park button on the gear stick but this did nothing at all even after multiple attempts. Am I missing something or has this feature been removed? The second link above is a forum discussion from April so if it s been removed it must have been relatively recently. | theonefoster | 2017-12-21 12:30:30 | 13 | drkfgi7 | Where are you from? I read it might work in the US but on in Europe. | Vik1ng | 2017-12-21 12:32:37 | 5 | Smart Summon Limitations |
90plk1 | Contract system is down. No US deliveries until it is fixed. | Was scheduled for delivery today at 3:30 EST. Got a call that they can t do a delivery until it is fixed. Rescheduled until Monday. It s been down since yesterday afternoon apparently. *EDIT* If your DS got your contract loaded and printed before the system went down yesterday afternoon then you are fine with your delivery. Sorry I didn t make that clear. *EDIT2*. Unconfirmed but someone posted that the system is back up. Will let folks know when I hear back from my local SC *Edit3* As of 3:30 EST no confirmation that it is up yet. Due to crazy work schedule Tesla will give me a P100D as a loaner until the system is up. They will also come to my house to get the paperwork signed since it is way harder for my wife to take off work during the week. So they are trying hard to ease my pain. | spudlime | 2018-07-21 14:19:23 | 85 | e2sby7t | As an IT person who supports critical systems I feel for them. But as an IT person who supports critical systems I ve got to wonder why no live recovery system failover backups standby hardware redundancy... an outage like this especially in a tech company just puzzles me more than anything. We are tiny in comparrison and even if our building burned down my primary systems would be back up in 3 hours. | Bad-Science | 2018-07-21 16:17:02 | 44 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8n1tpw | Contracts Team | My Model 3 delivery is tomorrow at 4pm in Toronto and the portal to pay cash for my car still hasnt opened up. To make things worse the purchase agreement still hasnt been uploaded to my account. I had to call multiple times just to have the purchase agreement emailed just so I could know how much our car actually will cost us. I understand that theyre swamped but waiting until the day before delivery to get vital information is less than ideal. | creedkevintoby | 2018-05-29 19:18:32 | 11 | dzs4s43 | Mine s on thursday in toronto as well and I ve got nothing back yet either.. my Financial contact said 24\-48 hours before delivery it ll show up . Still waiting. | superdeanio | 2018-05-29 19:36:41 | 5 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
3lcqoy | Control Model S from Android Wear? | I m sure I m part of a significant minority of people that has a Model S and an Android Wear watch. I d love to use my watch to for example start the AC. There was an app released about a year ago called Tesla Command for Android Wear. I see a number of articles about it but the app appears to have mysteriously disappeared. [link](http: insideevs.com tesla-command-android-wear-now-controls-model-s-video ) I also saw a really cool concept app from ELEKs but it hasn t been released. [link](http: elekslabs.com 2015 03 apple-watch-vs-android-wear-time-to-drive-tesla-further.html) Have you found any other options out there? | anselor | 2015-09-17 21:28:32 | 11 | cv56nui | I m part of that minority so I would love to have this on my Moto 360 | Craig_VG | 2015-09-17 21:56:16 | 5 | Tesla companion app features |
5qrjzu | Control Your Tesla With Amazon Alexa | You can now control your tesla with your voice using saymosaic.com. You can: Turn on climate control Set to a certain temperature Lock the car Honk the horn Flash lights Enjoy! | ShoutDonutShop | 2017-01-29 02:43:20 | 43 | dd1uki0 | There s an easier way to do this. Just say Alexa enable EV Car. Then go to the app click link account and enter your login info. Once set up all of the following commands work: * ask EV Car how far can I drive * ask EV Car for charge status * ask EV Car for car status * ask EV Car for climate status * tell EV Car to set driver temperature to 72 * tell EV Car to set passenger side to 73 * tell EV Car to to honk * tell EV Car to flash * tell EV Car to lock unlock * tell EV Car to turn climate on off * tell EV Car to start heating * tell EV Car to cool my car * tell EV Car to stop climate * ask EV Car how warm is my car * ask EV Car dude where s my car ask * tell EV Car to get ready to take off * tell EV Car to go into hyperdrive https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads ev-car-an-alexa-skill-for-amazon-echo-tesla-integration.85031 | ThirdLap | 2017-01-29 08:43:16 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
g8kgnc | Control car via Bluetooth when there is no cell service. | I went camping in my Model 3 last night where there was little to no cell service. To adjust temperature I had to crawl up and reach to the screen rather than simply adjusting it in the app since the app relies on cell phone service. Since you can already unlock the car with Bluetooth surely it would be easy for Tesla allow control of all the other functions over Bluetooth right? | brandude87 | 2020-04-26 19:15:42 | 29 | fooc01t | Yep should be easily doable. As long as you can send data over Bluetooth it s easy enough to design a protocol for that. Hopefully it ll be in a future software update. | googlebleh | 2020-04-26 21:25:05 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
hltdmg | Control passenger seat movement from touch-screen. | If I just have my wife in the car (Model 3) she likes to put the front passenger seat back and lounge. Then if she s not in the car but someone wants to sit in the back I have to get out of the car go round to the passenger side and move the seat forward tilt it forward etc. This is obviously not ideal when it s raining etc. Would make life a lot easier if we could get those controls on the screen if possible. (As an addendum a feature like this on the phone app would be great for moving *both* front seats forward for when you need to put the back seats down.) | WilliamG007 | 2020-07-05 20:16:23 | 79 | fx1cs5y | Unfortunately that s not possible for existing vehicles only the driver s seat has a connection to the CAN bus. | GOAE | 2020-07-05 21:38:09 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
gd98k7 | Control your Tesla from your wrist! | A while ago I wanted to plug out the cable from the charge port of my Tesla model 3 but it was locked so I had to get my phone out unlock it navigate to the app and eventually unlock the port to be able to pull out my cable. It was a big hassle so I got the idea to create an app for all (app supported) Fitbit devices where someone could control his Tesla with just a tap. I created: [WristControl](https: gallery.fitbit.com details 2134bf11-4d4a-4b1c-8df4-8280f3fa994e) and I already got some positive feedback! I was already a member on this forum for a while and thought maybe there are some fellow redditors who have both a Fitbit and Tesla and are keen on trying it out? TLDR: I created an app for all Fitbit devices that let s you control your Tesla. Link: [https: gallery.fitbit.com details 2134bf11-4d4a-4b1c-8df4-8280f3fa994e](https: gallery.fitbit.com details 2134bf11-4d4a-4b1c-8df4-8280f3fa994e) | infxmousrogue | 2020-05-04 10:36:42 | 22 | fpfzkbf | I wish Tesla would just allow us to pair any Bluetooth device as a passive “phone key.” Would love to use my Apple Watch instead of my phone. | TheKobayashiMoron | 2020-05-04 10:49:26 | 31 | Tesla companion app features |
dckr91 | Controller suggestions for Cuphead etc | I downloaded V10 today but was disappointed to find out my Nintendo Switch USB controller didn t work with Cuphead. I can get to the start of the game where Kettle tells you to go to his desk but can t move. Since I didn t see this on the accessories page or on the spreadsheet therein what are the best controllers to use for Cuphead? Looking for good value that will work well and hold up. | deathreaperco6 | 2019-10-03 02:33:57 | 17 | f28utx1 | If you want to spend a bit more for a wireless option this one has been working nicely for me: [https: www.amazon.com Logitech-940-000117-Gamepad-F710 dp B0041RR0TW?ref\_=ast\_bbp\_dp](https: www.amazon.com Logitech-940-000117-Gamepad-F710 dp B0041RR0TW?ref_=ast_bbp_dp) Seems to work fine all the Tesla games. | deplorable_mr_bill | 2019-10-03 02:54:23 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ip2z17 | Controlling Tesla s Sleep Mode ~-or-~ Lucid Dreaming for Robotaxis | So you may wonder what sleep mode is or why you should care. If you don t care already know then well **tl dr**: do you know how to more directly get a Model 3 (or otherwise) to [go the f to sleep](https: www.amazon.com Go-F-Sleep-Adam-Mansbach dp 145584165X)? For tl summarize I ll try my best to summarize what sleep is why it s important and why it s a problem that it can t be more directly controlled: sleep lets the car analyze its battery shut down and use zero power phantom range loss and is the only time the 12v battery is put to use. Sleep is when you open the door and hear a clunk-clunk under the car shortly after - that s how it wakes from sleep. It s well known how to prevent sleep but not clear if there s a more direct way to get it to sleep. Sleep is where the car basically completely shuts down - it s the closest to complete power-off you can get. I often use the term deep sleep and sleep interchangeably because while there is a light sleep sort of mode the MCU is still totally awake with the screen off and really the only difference is that the AP computer is asleep (that is: not Sentry mode). In Sleep mode that s really the only time the car relies on the 12v battery - all the rest of the time the HV battery is powering everything in the car through the DC-DC converter. Sleep is a very good thing. Most critically Sleep mode completely disengages the HV battery which gives the BMS a chance to sample the open circuit voltage of the battery and collect a sample for its its degradation health calculations. [Without being able to sample this open-circuit voltage phantom degradation can occur](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads how-i-recovered-half-of-my-batterys-lost-capacity.204712 ) (where the gauge shows less capacity than you really have). Any other time it s really just making estimates because the battery is still being either charged or discharged - not idle. So the idea of sleep deprivation is very much a real thing for Teslas. If the car is only ever deep-sleeping after a charge in the garage overnight it only ever collects a 90% sample (for example) and the rest is just estimation since it can t get a sample anywhere else - if you always use Sentry mode away from home. Sometimes you want to prevent sleep. For me I also have some [totally not-Tesla-approved setup](https: imgur.com gJF1uYu) for power export from the car... amazing what you can do with the Model 3 s standard 2500w x 12v DC-DC converter if you want to shift some loads during the day ) But obviously the car is entirely unaware that this is going on (other than Tezlab stats getting totally messed up as my car [burns through 6-8 miles of range in phantom drain an hour](https: imgur.com y5oEzci)!). In this particular case I really want to keep the car from sleeping... which is easy enough just check the app every half-hour or so that keeps the car awake. Sentry would also keep it awake but the idle power consumption jumps from \~150W to \~350W so I want to avoid that. Lastly sleep is **not** just the screen turning off and the car locked . I call that idle . The water pump is still running the MCU is still running (it sleeps but stays booted alive in deep sleep) and everything is still ready to go at a moment s notice. Sleep **is** when you go out to the car open the door and a couple seconds later you hear a clunk-clunk from under the car. That meant the car just woke up from sleep. That s a good thing... it means the car was sleeping. If you don t get that response if the MCU screen just pops right up when you open the door... the car wasn t sleeping. Oh and that Power off car button in the Safety & Security settings panel is a complete placebo joke - it does exactly the same as if you just closed all the doors without a driver in the seat. It doesn t shut down anything it stays awake doesn t even reboot the MCU. We know what *prevents* sleep but I can t find any information pertaining to it being possible to *induce* sleep. Opening refreshing the app prevents sleep (seems to reset a timer when it gets refreshed). Touching a door handle prevents sleep the body controller can likely detect proximity and start waking the car when it sees your key around it (I ve noticed my 3 wakes from sleep with no visible reaction but only by sound when I partially pull the door handle but not enough to open it - for example). Oh and while Sentry uses 300-350 watts while it s running (thus the battery drain) a car idling without sleep uses 150 watts or so instead. That s still a lot of power and a big source of phantom drain if you can t get the car to go the f to sleep. I d really like to know if there s anything done to make sleep more accessible. I think it would really help some folks batteries to be able to just say I m home work gone for a while now go to sleep . It seems like it has a full hour-long timer that it counts down with *absolutely zero* external interaction (no TeslaFi no Tezlab no app) then it ll finally go to sleep. Is there a better way? | FalconFour | 2020-09-08 21:48:45 | 16 | g4hlevj | After almost 2 years of monitoring my Model 3 via the API the only thing I ve learned for sure about inducing sleep is that it takes at least 10 minutes of not polling the API. You can still constantly poll the [Vehicles](https: tesla-api.timdorr.com api-basics vehicles) endpoint to get sleep status without without waking up the car and polling that particular endpoint won t in itself keep the car awake but any other endpoint that requires communication to the car both requires the car to already be awake to get data and will reset a timer and keep the car awake for a little over 10 minutes from the time of last poll. Presumably this is to keep the feeling of responsiveness for the app. It also takes 10 minutes from the last time the screen was on so if you are charging and have your car set to unlocked at home when charging completes the screen will come on and stay on for 5 minutes then the 10 minute timer starts after the screen shuts off. Personally I use a script that considers screen being on to be a condition where polling is allowed (there could be someone sitting in the car) so I have my own sleep timer do an extra 5 minutes of polling before giving it a rest period where I don t poll at all. As a result my car typically sleeps 20 minutes after completing charging: 9 4 2020 5:58:15 PM Roadrunner charging started with battery at 72.9 % (363.63 km). Temp: 23.5 C. ETA: 15m 9 4 2020 6:10:20 PM Roadrunner charging completed in 12m 5s at 75.6 % (377.38 km). Added: 2.8 % (13.75 km) at 11.02 kW (65.45 km h). Temp: 23.5 C. Eff: 90.1 %. Health: 94.89 % (72.1 kWh) 9 4 2020 6:31:25 PM Roadrunner is now asleep was online for 1h 32m There s also been times when the car will awake itself for no apparent reason like this morning: 9 8 2020 8:17:50 AM Roadrunner is now online was asleep for 1d 4h 43m 9 8 2020 8:42:50 AM Roadrunner has stayed up past its bedtime 9 8 2020 10:21:20 AM Roadrunner is now asleep was online for 2h 3m It happened to also spend a minute charging the battery at 9:15am which I caught through my home energy monitor but not my script (because I was purposely not polling in order to get the car to go back to sleep) but that was more likely because being awake caused it to consume enough battery to require topping up not because it awoke just to charge. Anecdotally I also seem to have better luck coaxing the car to sleep if it just completed a charge and if I keep my bluetooth phone key out of connection range but I ve not rigorously tested those theories. | Wugz | 2020-09-08 22:29:52 | 11 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
bd2g2p | Conversation between Tom Randall and Elon Musk on Twitter regarding battery cell constraint. | As per the Twitter exchange between the two: 1. Panasonic has produced about 2 3rd the capacity of 2170 cells. 2. Model 3 production has been constrained by the availablity of these cells. 3. Tesla doesn t intend to invest further till 100% capacity utilisation is achieved. 4. Production in Q4- 61 400 Q1 63 000. So at 100% capacity utilisation- 90 000. So maximum possible production of model 3 s at Fremont in 2019 63 000+90 000+90 000+90 000=333 000. 5. Production at GF3 in Q4 2019= 50 000. GF3 is supposed to come online in September at a low volume. For GF3 Tesla is in talks with local battery suppliers. 6. Production of S X in 2019= 50 000. These use 18650 cells imported from Japan. Production assumed is 50% of last year due to low demand. 7. So maximum possible production of Tesla cars in 2019 is 433 000. This is quite in line with Tesla guidance. | vinodjetley | 2019-04-14 12:52:48 | 78 | ekv9cdq | The delivery guidance is only 360-400k total car. Which means 300-320 model3s. If we assume GF3 only delivers 20k-30k of this they need to build 280-290k in Fremont of which 50k is done. Which means for remaining 39 weeks they need to build at avg 5.9k or 6.15k per week (assuming same in inventory level). This is about 20% to 27% increase in production rate needed. In other words to meet the delivery target the GF1 needs to increase from 24gwh to 29-31gwh. Seems doable. Edit: Now I assumed the same battery mix as Q1. In reality the battery mix will go more towards SR+ which could bring the total cell production increase required to more like 10-15%. | praslee | 2019-04-14 13:10:33 | 24 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
75a6a8 | Converting a NEMA 14-50 to a Wall Connector. | Hey folks I m sure like me most of us are starting to plan for their Model 3 delivery. Hoping someone would be able to help me out with a question. I ll be charging in New York so we get all types of weather. I ve read that NEMA is perfectly fine in outdoor weather and we already have a generate that plugs in from the outside so I know it s not a problem. if I wanted to update to a wall connector down the line how hard would it actually be? Is the wiring mostly the same or is it a completely different configuration? Thanks. Also I don t take long road trips and my daily commute is a total of 20 miles roundtrip. So I m worried about having an extra charing cable with me. | lilcox | 2017-10-09 16:21:39 | 21 | do4jx66 | pigtail a 14-50 male connector into the wall connector -> done. | run-the-joules | 2017-10-09 16:23:55 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
2dootc | Converting a Tesla to a taxi | Hello everyone I m a taxi driver out here in Oahu Hawaii. I m looking to convert a model S into a taxi. However I need some schematics of the vehicles inner workings in order to connect my taxi computer to the tesla. This is the computer Mentor Ranger : http: www.fieldtechnologiesonline.com doc mentor-ranger-0003 I need as much info on the model S that I can get. Anyone have any leads? Much appreciated. Thank you in advance. | [deleted] | 2014-08-16 00:57:36 | 11 | cjrl1ub | Try asking people on http: www.teslamotorsclub.com | Banhfunbags | 2014-08-16 02:10:08 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
2dtjen | Convince me that a Tesla is a better use of my money than an equally priced slightly used supercar | A Model S at least the higher end version runs anywhere from $80-120k. For that same price there are some _amazing_ cars on eBay motors with < 20 000 miles on them. I ve never bought a brand new car before because I ve always found the value of a slightly used excellent condition car to be much better so that s part of my concern here with buying a Tesla. The other part is that I really can find some incredible cars even though they re gas powered for the same price or cheaper than a Model S. | HelluvaNinjineer | 2014-08-17 19:16:16 | 45 | cjt3tmp | I haven t been to a gas station in a year and a half. In the 1.5 years I ve had it that would have been ~**60** gas station visits with another car. Ain t nobody got time for that shit. I haven t had my oil changed. In the 1.5 years I ve had it that would have been 3-4 oil changes with another car. I don t have to get smogged this year or ever in the future. In another car I would have to do it in the next few months. I have generated more electricity off the solar panels on my roof than I ve used in the car. In my other car that would have been about 750 gallons of gasoline or about $3 000 in gas and I would have dumped about 7.5 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. I HAVE had a few issues that I ve needed to drop the car off for but it was hassle free - I dropped the car off and hopped in 1) a faster better Tesla 2) a faster better Tesla 3) a Roadster for the day while they worked on mine. Each time they ve taken it they ve fixed my issue and improved my car in some other way (wind noise above windshield gone creak in pano roof gone titanium underbody shield added etc.). A few months ago I got hill hold (Let go of brake on a hill and the car doesn t roll until you apply gas) downloaded on my car over wirelessly while I slept. A whole bunch of other minor improvements have come through as well. In my Tesla I can peel off the line to get around other cars without making an obnoxious look how big my dick is engine rev. I can fit every ounce of kitesurfing gear in my car and still have room for a couple suitcases... in the back alone and then fill the front up with groceries or bags and you can t see anything from outside the car. I can fit 5 people in there easy. I dunno man sometimes I see other really really nice much more expensive cars on the road and I m sure they go faster handle better something something than my car but I wouldn t trade mine in for any of them (except a higher model Tesla). | RibsNGibs | 2014-08-17 23:49:20 | 68 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5s57yi | Convinced my mom to opt out of a Range Rover for a Model X! | it wasn t hard! the UI is a lot like an iPad to her which is great. All functionality on a central easy to use touch screen. She loved the faux leather option as she is passionate about animal preservation. It was an easy sell beacuse it s a great product! woot! | _brodre | 2017-02-05 02:55:57 | 116 | ddcidkl | Doing good work there! 24mpg to 92mpge | EVMasterRace | 2017-02-05 03:51:13 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
h0zpb7 | Convincing condo HOA to add charging | My condo parking is a little unique as there are no reserved spots and exactly the same number of spots as units (27 spots). 13 of the spots are under the building and covered with the others exposed to the elements. HOA doesn t want to do reserved parking since they don t view each spot as having the same value. I don t think I ll be able to convince them to change so we have a first come first serve system where every unit is guaranteed an unspecified single spot in the lot. Has anyone else encountered a similar situation when approaching HOA about adding charging? I m going to research the idea of proposing a charge point like system in one of the less sought after spots. | gpasq | 2020-06-11 13:52:45 | 25 | ftp5b2c | put them in the worst spots is the only thing that will help. | tornadoRadar | 2020-06-11 14:23:20 | 37 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ckes0y | Convincing someone to put in a destination charger | There is a country store on my route to the cottage that I think would be a perfect location for the destination charger. I suspect it will draw Teslas like flies and its the kind of place you can t leave without dropping $20 - there s ALWAYS something to buy there. So I d like to pitch them on it... Am I correct in understanding that Tesla does most all of the installation? I assume the customer pays for the electricity not Tesla so are there quotas or time limits they can put in place to avoid hogs? Any good arguments you ve used in the past I should try? | maurymarkowitz | 2019-07-31 21:30:27 | 16 | evmjadu | Tesla will provide the charger. Installation and electricity purchase is on the owner. Owner can designate whatever rules he wants. | SparkySpecter | 2019-07-31 21:33:18 | 16 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3rda1y | Convoy of autosteering MS? | Does anybody have a video of a number (> 3) of Model S on Autopilot driving in a convoy? I wonder how that would look like. Imho it would be great to organise such a happening. | Javyt | 2015-11-03 16:23:28 | 17 | cwn0xje | I ve been in a Tesla AP 3-some on the 5 south highway in Los Angeles. Unfortunately it was a couple weeks ago and already deleted the dash cam footage. It was cool but not that exciting for a video. Just 3 Teslas sitting in the HOV lane drivers twiddling their thumbs. | dieabetic | 2015-11-03 16:53:20 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
6nkxt8 | Cookeville TN Supercharger | Was leaving work from South Cookeville today when my pilot asked me about those big white tesla chargers they were building at the mall in Cookeville. Decided to stop by and take a look and found that Tesla has been busy. I found an eight stall supercharger in the south east corner of the Jackson Plaza mall. The Chargers are in place and do not have any bags or coverings over them yet. But it appears the actual meter has yet to be installed. It appears to have four of the white towers that are split between the eight stalls. Four of the stalls are reserved for Tesla only and the other four have listed as Tesla charging or 30 minute parking. The most accurate address for the actual stalls appears to be 377 W. Jackson St. Cookeville TN. The supercharger is 1.3 miles north of interstate 40. The area is quite ripe with shopping and eating destinations. There are multiple pizza places a sonic drive-in Taco Bell Old Navy TJ Maxx Petco McDonald s Jimmy John s a Food Lion grocery store a couple of banks and Dunhams Sports. I will try to visit again next week to see when they are operational. | BringTheSwingWing | 2017-07-16 06:52:57 | 22 | dkafkpb | Thread on TMC with SC pictures: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads cookeville-tn-supercharger.94036 | anonim1979 | 2017-07-16 12:31:37 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
a0f683 | Cool find in small town Texas | This morning after church the family went to breakfast at a hole-in-the-wall taqueria. Since it was a day that ends in “y” we were in my Tesla. Towards the end of the meal a friend I had from high school that I hadn t seen in years grabs me by the shoulder with the introduction: “Is that your Tesla outside? Mines parked next to it.” These cars really are taking over. For reference: I m sure he knew it was mine because of my vanity plates from a video game we played. For those curious it s 4T-HORDE. | Valgar_Gaming | 2018-11-26 02:34:14 | 33 | eahnepz | I was at a Bucc-ees store (huge Texas gas station) today to pick up some candy on a road trip. This place has about 100+ gas pumps so of course the place is usually just full of SUVs and pickup trucks. As I m driving out of the parking lot in my Model S a Model 3 crosses in front of me! The driver waved and pulled in by the front of the store. Heck if there s more than one Tesla at one of the biggest gas stations in Texas there s got to be a lot more around the Lone Star State nowadays. | YesRocketScience | 2018-11-26 06:54:34 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7tvg4c | Cool self driving parking by Model 3 | http: teslaweekly.com watch-this-model-3-auto-park-in-a-tight-parking-spot | tslaopt | 2018-01-29 20:52:15 | 19 | dtfk9em | I used auto-park once and it was terrifying because it knows the tolerances so much better than I do. I haven t had the balls to use it since but also to be fair since hte car is brand new I m parking away from everyone anyway. | run-the-joules | 2018-01-29 21:33:14 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bnkn6y | Cooldown 15 minutes after parking | After updating from 2019.8.5 to 2019.12.1.2 my Model 3 starts running the fans about 15 minutes after I park the car. Within a few seconds of this starting there s a big rush of air and then the fans continue to run for another 15 minutes. Did anyone else notice this new behavior? Video: https: www.youtube.com watch?v=W0c4p3mnp14 | dltesla | 2019-05-12 03:20:02 | 30 | en6uifd | This may be a solution to the AC smell problem. The coils need to be dried to prevent fungal growth. | DrElectrons | 2019-05-12 06:05:43 | 43 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
2jhso9 | Cooled seats | Any idea if this is an option that is remotely on Tesla s radar? It felt very nice after a round of disk golf. | Ecothegeek | 2014-10-17 05:56:16 | 12 | clbyspi | +1. I don t really want leather unless they are cooled. I find leather seats too sweaty on the backside. | rypalmer | 2014-10-17 11:33:20 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ddbpra | Cooling a burned Tesla (EV) | A Tesla Model S caught fire today after colliding with a tree in Tyrol Austria (driver survived). The interesting aspect of the [report \(in German\)](https: tirol.orf.at stories 3015765 ) is that the (volunteer) fire department there now has a modified [water tight container](https: oekastatic.orf.at mims 2019 40 29 crops w=1280 q=70 r=1 320993_bigpicture_100929_zom_3728-002.jpg?s=00bc6515cb2fe7418a696307fac5779a7741aaa6) to cool the EV s battery preventing a fire to start again later. Also shows that EVs are now common enough to warrant such equipment. | Sheep42 | 2019-10-04 18:56:13 | 142 | f2fdkr4 | Glad to know driver survived. Also this definitely is not how to release [Cthulhu Easter egg](https: twitter.com Tesla status 1179792045088620551?s=19). | daingandcrumpets | 2019-10-04 19:01:29 | 84 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
qlfgor | Corded Mobile Connector price lowered to $400 | While it is still out of stock Tesla has silently dropped the price of the Corded Mobile Connector from $520 to $400. https: shop.tesla.com product corded-mobile-connector For anyone unaware this version has the NEMA 14-50 cord hardwired in and can charge up to 40A over the UMC max of 32A if your car is capable. Standard range M3 can only do 32. Since the plug end can t be removed it is also handy for securing the charging cable in a NEMA 14-50 lockable outlet like the one below. https: www.lowes.com pd Eaton-50-Amp-GFCI-Receptacles-Overhead-Temporary-Power-Panel 3027570 | zipxavier | 2021-11-02 22:03:39 | 132 | hj2vj8z | it really didn t make sense that this was more expensive than a wall connector and almost double the price of a mobile connector for 8A more also you can t even swap the plug which makes it less flexible than a MC even at $400 though it still seems overpriced imo | M3tl | 2021-11-02 23:42:47 | 61 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bpt2id | Cork Wrap | I got this scent wedge from this site https: scentwedge.com . I came across this page. https: scentwedge.com blogs a-breathe-of-air. I love the cork wrap and contacted the vendor. And he made me this: https: imgur.com a M6eSM44 I thought you guys might like it. | zog130 | 2019-05-17 16:00:20 | 13 | enx86u7 | I swear I saw cock wrap . Anyways I actually kind of dig it. It s different. | bully_worm | 2019-05-17 16:43:43 | 22 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
fn79wv | Coronavirus Contactless Delivery | Hoping others Tesla might find this useful. I ordered my Model 3 over the phone and all was well until I realized I didn t get an order confirmation. Turns out they took down my email address incorrectly. (Issue 1) It took 3 business days for them to change one letter on my email address 🤷🏻♂️. I got super lucky and my local showroom was stocking my exact model (+4 days). They explained a contactless Coronavirus delivery option. I was ecstatic and still thankful that they got me a car quickly. Delivery Day (+5 days). They dropped the car off at my house keys and FedEx d paperwork inside the car. Unfortunately there s no AT& T reception in my area so (Issue 2) I wasn t able to get into the car. Tesla Service lost key access to my car and no amount of data pinging my car would work. At the end of Delivery Day a random tow company shows up and pries the window open for an emergency manual entry 😭. I get my keys. I get in my car and (Issue 3) my touchscreen doesn t work and I have to reboot a few times. The screen keeps flickering as well. DD+1 Finally get the screen to work and I find that my car (Issue 4) doesn t have data or GPS at all even in areas with full ATT GPS signal. It shows that I m at the Fremont factory. I m having to wait until I can get a service appointment which will be another week. DD+2 3 I ve been told that not having data GPS is somewhat normal and may take a few days to “kick in.” They ve taken down some notes on my account. I m waiting to see if they follow up. Given the circumstances I understand they did their best with piloting a contactless delivery. I was a huge fan of the concept. But... they probably could have double checked things before leaving the car. I felt like they were rushed to deliver and didn t take the time to make sure I was set up. I heard they would call me during the setup but that didn t happen either. I m trying really hard to appreciate the Tesla brand and this left a bad impression. | al3x4n | 2020-03-22 21:08:53 | 21 | fl89nyg | Unfortunately COVID-19 is making things worse than they already were. Having it be the last 2 weeks of quarter (which ive noticed is Teslas worst 2 weeks in terms of customer service) makes it even worse. The whole world is a mess right now (Tesla included) and you are probably one of the first contactless deliveries they have done. Just hang in there things will get better! Ive had my Model 3 almost 2 years and im never going with another ICE ir EV brans again. | ferrarienz00 | 2020-03-22 23:13:39 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
cmse9m | Correccted - 2019.28.2 does link to phone for profile setting | My mistake. Wow that was quick. Thank You all for correcting me. It works fine I did it on both my wife s phone and my phone and it worked both times when I walked up to car. I misread the release notes saw keycard and thought it only worked on key card. NOT TRUE it works on the phone you have to click the phone icon when you have your driver profile loaded. https: i.redd.it m6slavp3pue31.jpg | GoTesla | 2019-08-06 15:57:35 | 30 | ew4e12j | Awesome. Is it smart enough to recognize which Bluetooth signal is coming from the driver s side of the car if both phones are in proximity? | educo_ | 2019-08-06 16:23:40 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
fgmqkg | Correct height settings for Model 3 Headlights | So I was messing with different options of my new Model 3 while showing it to someone who is very interested in buying one when I came across an option in the service tab. I previously owned a Model S 2017 so I never saw this on it so I was curious as to what it did. I pressed it and started to scroll the wheel on the steering wheel up and down while talking to the person I was showing the car...and then I read the disclaimer. Nobody had told me not to mess with that setting and now I m worried my headlights are off. I tried to schedule a service but they want to charge me $130 to readjust them. Is there a recommended height for the driver and passenger headlights so that I can do it myself? I know the driver has to be a bit lower than passenger but I don t know what to set them at. | cuate76 | 2020-03-10 22:48:02 | 14 | fk5l62j | If you want the correct aim then the [right portion of the beam](https: i.imgur.com pu8UZdX.jpg) pattern [should be level with the height of the headlamps on the car. ](https: i.imgur.com lU0jpXX.jpg) You want the **edge** of the **beam pattern** (*not the aberrations*) resting on the H-H line. This is ideally done at a minimum of 25 feet because at closer distances the [fuzziness of the beam cutoff](http: imgur.com a CtQbCAG) makes it harder to accurately aim the lamps. That picture was taken with the headlamp 26 feet away from the wall and it s fairly easy to distinguish the aberration (red) from the beam pattern itself (white). At close distances it s hard to distinguish and it s hard to know when you ve actually placed the cutoff on the horizontal axis and not say the top of the aberration which would make the aiming way too low. | GonadsOfWrath | 2020-03-10 23:26:04 | 25 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
shdud2 | Correct way to hold steering wheel with AutoPilot on? | Whenever I use AP it warns me every now and then to apply some force to the steering wheel even though i already have both my hands at 10 and 2. It also seems (only sometimes) like the amount of force i have to use to get the warning to go away is higher than i would expect. I ve accidentally disengaged the auto steering once trying to dismiss the warning lol. Has anyone else had this issue? Not sure if im doing something wrong. | petersauce | 2022-01-31 22:12:02 | 44 | hv23cza | I just rest my hand on the bottom left of the wheel and let the weight of my hand arm give constant input to it. No nags ever. | victheone | 2022-01-31 22:56:42 | 79 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
by3qbz | Corrective steering applied randomly on a dirt road | Happens at 15:35 in this video [https: youtu.be kskvFuLEQbY?t=935](https: youtu.be kskvFuLEQbY?t=935) Nothing bad happens & #x200B My wife was driving the car and didn t even know about the collision detection lane departure stuff. She said she didn t even notice the car apply any steering. It s just pretty crazy it did it on a dirt road...isn t it supposed to be responding to lane lines? haha | DirtyTesla | 2019-06-08 03:52:52 | 13 | eqccl1l | I have the same experience on gravel and partially paved roads. It seems to only react if you are leaving what it considers drivable space. I thought it was pretty awesome how well it can identify what is or is not actually part of the road. | EleventhHero | 2019-06-08 04:00:06 | 7 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
7t3kkd | Correlation Between VIN # and Build Date | So at long last I just officially configured my Model 3 yesterday and I noticed in my account today I already have a VIN # assigned. What blew me away is that my VIN # is 15xx. I know the VINs are only very loosely correlated with the rates of manufacturing but I know the 1500 s have been around for a while now and looking it up on NHTSA reveals it is indeed assigned to a 2017 Tesla Model 3 whereas the most recent VINs show up as 2018 s. What are the odds that my configuration just happened to correspond to a Model 3 that was made last month and has just been sitting around? Is it possible that Tesla could still be building VINs in the 1500 s as recent as this week? And of course how bout those #alcantara odds? UPDATE: Less than 48 hours after configuring I just officially received the phone call. Delivery date will likely be the beginning of next week. Ridiculous. | lothariorowe | 2018-01-26 09:53:52 | 14 | dt9mras | The 10th digit in the VIN is he Model year. The 2018 Model year was assigned from around 22nd Dec. If the 10th digit is H you have a 2017 MY if it s J it s 2018 If your car was built > 1 month ago I believe you will have a H as 10th digit in VIN | 30trillioncells | 2018-01-26 11:32:56 | 7 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
bshj8v | Corrupt USB can cause some features (AP TACC etc) to be disabled. 2019.12.1.2. | I have heard reports from two different people that a corrupted USB drive which is connected to the vehicle can cause some features to be unavailable. They were both on 2019.12.1.2. Symptoms include some or all of the following features to be unavailable: Autopilot TACC GPS backup camera Cars displaying on screen Autowipers & #x200B Removing the USB drive and doing a reset on the car clears the problem and all functionality returns. Reformat the USB drive before reinserting and things continue to be fine. | purestevil | 2019-05-24 14:23:03 | 35 | eonbi5z | Yes. I have meds this association. I had all these issues on 2 occasions - the only 2 times I had a usb stick in. Without the stick- no issues. The stick was a ruggedized Sandisc that showed up as Fat 32 on my computer. Despite being formatted correctly I reformatted the usb stick and the problem has not recurred. | nealsbg | 2019-05-24 14:35:15 | 7 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
31l497 | Corrupted charge screen on Tesla Android Mobile App after recent update? | I m running a Moto X and I noticed that the most recent update to the Tesla mobile app has corrupted the charge screen. I ve heard from one other person with the issue - any other owners with this issue? Currently running version 2.1.1 87 **edit:** Here s a screenshot of what I see on two physically different phones (both Moto Xes though): http: imgur.com hFudfdy **edit 2:** Got a chance to try it on a samsung phone (a galaxy) with the same results: http: imgur.com 7VtBMaf | ACDRetirementHome | 2015-04-06 02:37:52 | 17 | cq2pkmo | Hey guess what? Same problem. One Plus One Kitkat. | supratachophobia | 2015-04-06 05:39:12 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6ycj1d | Cost benefit analysis of free super charging for S X vs Model 3 | Soooooooo I just visited the Tesla Store and spoke to a rep who mentioned fully charging a Model 3 would cost ~$20 at a super charger. Does anyone have a resource to how to calculate the payback for a 75 model S vs a LR model 3? Also he mentioned roughly 20 cents per kWh. That seemed high to me but I didn t have any frame of reference. I m based in California for reference. Thoughts? | dellfanboy | 2017-09-06 01:34:54 | 18 | dmmd95y | [Here are Tesla s supercharger rates per state.](https: www.tesla.com support supercharging) California is $0.20 kWh. Pricing: - A Model S 75 with no options is $69 500 (destination fee included) - A Model 3 LR with no options is $45 000 (destination fee included) What this means: - There is a $24 500 difference between these two cars. - This equates to 122 500 kWh at the $0.20 kWh California rate. - Assuming approximately 3 miles kWh you d need to Supercharge 367 500 miles worth of driving to break even. This isn t even remotely close to a sound financial comparison unless you do insane amounts of driving. | geoffreak | 2017-09-06 02:08:50 | 24 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
d31m2b | Cost benefit analysis vs more mainstream cars. | I ve been thinking about getting a Model 3 because electric is definitely the way of the future. I ve test driven a Model X P100D and a Model 3 LR AWD. Something that I keep thinking about is that most comparisons for costs between the Model 3 and other cars is if you buy new and compare 5 year cost of ownership. A huge component of the lower Model 3 cost of ownership is higher residual value. Has anyone done an analysis of used vs used or is there too much variability at that point to make a good comparison? Ex. 5 year cost of ownership of a 3 year used Accord vs 3 year used Model 3 (8 year old car at the end). | AlM9SlDEWlNDER | 2019-09-12 02:51:40 | 13 | ezy70dg | There is almost zero chance that you will be able to financially justify buying a Tesla over a reasonably priced ICE with decent efficiency. | run-the-joules | 2019-09-12 03:41:13 | 25 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
bhxryb | Cost of Canadian M3 LR RWD | It is my understanding that you can still order an off menu Model 3 Long Range Rear Wheel Drive from Tesla that they will build and sell. Has anyone contacted Tesla in Canada to determine the price of that particular build? Also do they include Auto Pilot on the off menu builds? | CamaCDN | 2019-04-27 10:26:50 | 13 | elx2gvz | Last I spoke to them a week ago the LR RWD was the same price as before 60500 before AP 64500 after. | noneabove1182 | 2019-04-27 16:04:39 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
akoxl2 | Cost of Charging vs ICE | I ve been seeing a number of articles about Supercharging becoming more expensive than gas recently. I had a \~400 miles of driving scheduled for this past weekend and decided to make some observations on the trip home. I have a Model 3 LR AWD passengers were me and my wife and part of the trip my sister in law along with our luggage. It was 55F out I left with 40% SoC so I knew I needed to stop at the first Supercharger 55 miles away and get to around 60% to make it home. [https: imgur.com a Irzbe4I](https: imgur.com a Irzbe4I) The first image shows the first 56.4 miles to the Supercharger and the amount of energy used. Important to note this was going 75mph on the interstate for 53 of those miles. Then it shows the cost to fill up the same amount of energy spent. $1.61. Gas in the area is $2.20 so that s the same cost as getting 77 mpg. I continued to charge for 23 minutes total reaching $5.07. The rest of the trip was a combination of 75 and 65mph and the Wh mi I was getting was between 220 and 190 as you can see in the other images. I arrived at home with 25% SoC sadly I didn t take a final image of the total efficiency. However to get back to that original 40% that I left at to flatten out the total cost I needed 11.25kWh of power at $0.0613 kWh where I live that is $0.69. So I m looking at $5.76 for 170 miles. That would have been 2.6 gallons of gas or 65 mpg. & #x200B I hadn t seen the weather above 32F (0C) since I got the car a little over a month ago so yesterday was an anomaly. I have been using the cabin heater driving through the dense air averaging 350Wh mile (in fact my lifetime is 340Wh mi over 4800 miles not due to my driving style). I knew it was going to get better when it warmed up in the summer now I can t wait after seeing these numbers. For those who don t want to do the math the final image would get me a range of 384 miles with AWD. So yes Tesla s are still cheaper to drive per mile than gas cars by a pretty big margin. The margin only widens if you charge at home more. | crdnilfan | 2019-01-28 16:14:36 | 29 | ef6nlsh | I don t think anyone anywhere was arguing that the gas vs SC thing was true even if you had significant home charging mixed in. There are just a lot of people who live somewhere where charging isn t an option and use the SCs like gas stations. Others will point out that s what they get for doing it wrong. Road trips only! but Tesla was often more than fine flogging how easy the SCs are to use as fill up stations when they want these same people to buy the car. | vita10gy | 2019-01-28 16:50:10 | 30 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ksrzm4 | Cost of Model S - 8 years later | For those of you who ve owned the Model S since its release in 2012 (or those who ve just had one for 5+ years) what has been your experience in costs for your vehicle (ie: repairs energy)? Compared to a gasoline vehicle you don t need to pay for fuel (or very limited) or oil changes or tranmission fluids etc. so I would imagine the savings are great. I d love to compare it to a gas car owner to see if the higher initial cost balances out with less upkeep. | VowNyx | 2021-01-08 01:29:48 | 43 | gihyk5p | I m just about at six years. It s been very cheap to own. Biggest repair expense was three door handle replacements. Just one more and I ll have the full set! Supposedly the new design is much more robust so hopefully that won t happen again after the fourth one. I had to get the MCU replaced because of the flash wear issue but they re supposedly refunding that. Energy is cheap enough that I don t really notice it. I d have saved a ton of money keeping my Prius instead even with somewhat higher ongoing costs but it is nice that the Tesla so cheap to run now. | mikeash | 2021-01-08 02:35:49 | 46 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
1tbpn0 | Cost of an 85kWh battery: $44 564. 60kWh: $37 102 | An owner replaced his 60kWh battery with a new 85kWh battery. The new battery was $44 564. Tesla gave him 80% of the $37 102 price of a new 60kWh battery as trade-in value for his original battery. Including labor additional parts shipping and tax the swap cost $18 386. It would have been $8 000 plus tax if part of the initial purchase. http: www.greencarreports.com news 1089183_life-with-tesla-model-s-battery-upgrade-from-60-kwh-to-85-kwh | ballshagger | 2013-12-20 14:18:11 | 33 | ce6cijc | It s nice to see a real life example of what Tesla charges for their packs but Tesla is likely reaping a huge profit margin on selling these packs separately from the car. There is a [very detailed post here](http: www.teslamotorsclub.com showthread.php 17590-Model-S-Battery-Pack-Cost-Per-kWh-Estimate) that explains how the cost to manufacture the battery packs may be much lower. This was the resulting estimate: **60kWh Pack** - 4992 cells (3.4aH cells) - 61.1kWh - $2.50 Cell Cost - Pack Cost - $2 500 - Total Cost - $14 980 **85kWh Pack** - 7 104 cells (3.4aH cells) - 86.95kWh - $2.50 Cell Cost - Pack Cost - $2 500 - Total Cost - $20 260 | jonjiv | 2013-12-20 15:13:04 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
54w785 | Cost of detailing a Model S X periodically vs refinishing it once? | We drive almost 20k miles year and I m starting to notice some blemishes around the car -- all very minor but growing in number particularly on the hood and sides. It s mostly nicks from debris flying up on the highway (sandy New England winters are rough) onto the hood and some light scratches from overhanging branches that graze the side of the car. I have the touch-up paint but it s not a perfect fix. My question is whether it s preferable (either economically or to protect the aluminum) to get the car detailed say once per year (will they remove imperfections like these in a detailing?) or to just let them accumulate until we sell the car or no longer drive so much and then have it refinished (same color so not a full paint job). I have put off thinking about this until now because the nicks and imperfections really don t bother me at all. But it occurs to me that they will impact resale value (not sure if more or less than cost of fixing them). Furthermore some of the nicks on the hood do penetrate the paint exposing primer or aluminum and I m not sure whether that s advisable to touch up right away or whether it d be just as easy to do later. I m curious how other high mileage S X drivers deal with this. | freerobby | 2016-09-28 13:01:27 | 12 | d85hba0 | I say it s always nice to get a yearly biyearly detail if not just to buff out some of those surface scratches and swirls but to get the inside immaculate. | robotzor | 2016-09-28 14:05:49 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
6sr0sv | Cost of ownership for a 75 RWD configured at $85 000 compared to a $50 000 BMW X3? | Hey guys I was wondering if anybody could help my run the numbers for a cost of ownership comparison. I am trying to convince my dad to get a model s and right now he is on the fence. He drives about 10 000-12 000 miles a year electricity is $0.15 kWh and he plans on keeping either vehicle for about 15 years. Edit: just for some clarification he would rather get the model s as long as the long term price comes close enough. The 85000 doesn t include the 7500 tax credit. Also he does 21 miles of city driving every day. Finally we live 5 minutes away from a supercharger and he works 5 minutes away from a supercharger | y2kbaby2 | 2017-08-10 04:32:44 | 31 | dlexfp9 | I ll just say the same thing that I say to everyone that asks me how much money I save on gas... let s be clear noone is saving money by buying a Model S. This shit is expensive. There s no way around that. | _gosolar_ | 2017-08-10 05:12:24 | 44 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
94ka91 | Cost of ownership of buying Model 3 vs keeping my M235i. | Hi! I m on the fence for pulling the trigger on a Model 3 (AWD or Performance). To fully convince myself (**and my wife 📷**) I have done some calculations regarding cost of ownership of buying a Model 3 vs keeping my M235i. I bought my M235i in 2014 for 52K MSRP (paid cash). I got an offer last month for 30K. I anticipate its cost of ownership over the next 3 years to be about $22650 (including additional depreciation and maintenance). If I compare the cost of ownership of a Model 3 AWD ($19280) and Model 3 PD ($23920) the numbers are very close. You can see the breakdown of my calculation in [this spreadsheet](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1cGNm8mwCjqtxGswh0C0jfxYROp6AcIrMSZ4yWf1a7_0 edit?usp=sharing). I would appreciate any feedback you might have. Thanks! | Oyinko | 2018-08-04 16:17:28 | 10 | e3llmhy | There are many reasons to make this change but saving money is not really one of them. The car is still at least twice the amount of money you can expect from the sale. Cheaper to keep er . So should you do it? Yes. | XscapeVelocity | 2018-08-04 16:20:36 | 33 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bpn1tj | Cost of owning repairing maintaining Tesla Model S vs other luxury car brands | How does cost of maintaining the Tesla Model S compare with other luxury vehicles specifically German luxury cars (electric or not). I have been considering buying a Lexus up until recently and am now also considering a pre-owned Tesla Model S (likely 2015-2016). I pretty much ruled out German cars (Audi BMW) because I know they are very expensive to maintain repair once they re out of warranty. I was fairly committed to buying a Lexus (perhaps an ES hybrid) due to their reliability but want to now consider a Tesla given the better MPGe. So is maintaining repairing a Tesla closer to the cost of owning a German luxury car or a Lexus? How about getting timely repairs given what I ve heard about parts sometimes being difficult to obtain for Teslas? I am not wealthy enough to afford a new Tesla Model S which is why I m looking at pre-owned so if the cost of repair maintenance is very high like German cars I might have to rethink my decision. | pedsdoc08 | 2019-05-17 05:02:53 | 10 | env6sh5 | I found the Tesla invoice prices for the 5+ repairs I ve gotten in 2 years to be comparable to German cars. Even the yellow touchscreen was billed at $1800 under warranty. The cost of ownership and repairs is going to be substantially higher than Lexus but that all boils down to how lucky your get. The car has basically no scheduled maintenance intervals so the ongoing cost is PURELY whether or not you have the misfortune of something breaking. And honestly I find a high correlation between people trading in cars and those cars having problems. That s usually one of the last straws that results in the “F this I m getting a new one” reaction. OTOH the trade off is that reliable cars tend to be boring. I ll probably fall asleep before you can describe what s cool about a Lexus ES hybrid. It s all about what you want. | chillaban | 2019-05-17 05:08:37 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6ph1lc | Cost of the Model 3 outside the US | Today Elon tweeted this : https: twitter.com elonmusk status 889737700382605312 If we take that math for other countries outside the US we can get a nice estimate on local pricing for the very base model of the Model 3. With that in mind ill do a quick calculation for the UK : * $35000 = £26838.43 (with current exchange rates thanks Google) * Import tax in the UK is ~10% = 2683.84 + 26838.43 = £29522.27 * Sales tax = VAT @ 20% = 5904.45 + 29522.27 = £35426.70 So I can assume that before government incentives (rounded figures) that the Model 3 will be £35500. Now the UK has an incentive of up to £4500 grant from the government for Electric Vehicles Tesla are fully electric with a high milage and get the full amount. Therefore I can assume that I would pay for a base model (rounded figures again) in the region of £31000. Now I would like to know everyone elses estimated local pricing for the base model :) | Sonicsteel | 2017-07-25 15:55:03 | 30 | dkpagwt | Man I hope Canada s price is reasonable. That tweet gives me hope. Few more daysssssssss ($43 768 CAD + import fees (no idea how much this would be) ) * 1.13 | abacabbmk | 2017-07-25 16:44:18 | 11 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
66x7ec | Cost to insure a Model 3? | I know the Tesla Model 3 isn t out yet but I had checked with an insurance company for a quote and they estimated $1 000 a month to insure a new Model 3... This seemed quite a bit excessive. Would anyone have a better estimate? | Brocuied | 2017-04-22 17:34:00 | 15 | dglxpkd | You need a new insurance agent or you have a terrible driving history! It should be close to compreable priced cars like a 3 series BMW | EVing | 2017-04-22 17:36:14 | 29 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
6rldnl | Cost to replace 19 wheels? | The other day someone stated that they would never purchase odd size tires again due to replacement costs. For comparison can someone provide some real world figures as to what it would cost to replace the 18 tires vs. 19 on a Model 3? And would most folks purchase the replacements from Tesla or another place? | M_Madison | 2017-08-04 15:55:19 | 12 | dl5vyrn | The exact tire sizes have been spotted and findable. Maybe you could find those tire sizes and check on tirerack.com? If you could report back here that would be great. | _gosolar_ | 2017-08-04 16:10:19 | 6 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
cqfino | Cost to update SR to SR+ | Hello. I recently put my down payment on a SR+ not to long ago. One of the decisions I have yet to make is if I want to keep the SR+ or ask to downgrade it to an SR. This is due to my short commute plus I don t really need autopilot. I have called Tesla countless times to figure out how much it would cost if I were to buy the SR and later down the road update it to the SR+ with autopilot. It seems like each person I get in contact with has a different answer. Some people are saying its impossible to do that but [this post dating back to April of this year](https: www.tesla.com blog update-our-vehicle-lineup) clearly states that Standard customers will have the option to upgrade to a Standard Plus at any time . So what gives? Does tesla not offer this option anymore? I would like to at least know I have the option to upgrade my car in the future if need be. I just don t see the reason to get it right now. If anyone has had any experience with this process it would be great to get your input. | LEKrensta | 2019-08-14 20:38:10 | 17 | eww740c | You didn t ask for my opinion but here it is anyway: Autopilot is really useful. You should get the SR+ just for that if nothing else. It makes a meaningful difference in both stop-and-go traffic and highway cruising. Now that I have it I d never want to give it up. | misterwight | 2019-08-14 22:33:45 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8kgea7 | Costco Ameriprise car insurance for Model 3 could result in some extremely stressful 2 weeks | tldr: Ameriprise through Costco has to physically mail you a pre\-filled application that you then have to sign and mail back and USPS overnight might not be overnight. So if you decide to go with them get ready for some potentially very stressful 2 weeks. THE STORY: I am in the state of WA so the state tax credit expires on 5 31. I have not owned a car before \(been getting around on car share\) therefore I do not have previous insurance I can put into Tesla s website. To take delivery I had to get insurance immediately after getting the VIN. After looking around the best rate was from Ameriprise through Costco. `5 6 [evening]` \- received vin `5 7 [morning]` \- call Ameriprise and activate my previously requested quote. Am told they have to snail mail me the pre\-filled application for me to look over sign and to mail it back `5 7 [afternoon]` \- am contacted by Tesla congratulating on the vin and am asked to submit insurance info `5 7 [afternoon]` \- respond to Tesla that the insurance will take 2 weeks. Tesla rep surprised on the time tells me the vehicle will be available the week of 5 20 and tells me to maybe consider a different insurance provider. I think 2 weeks is enough to sort this out and decide to stick with Ameriprise. `5 11 [morning]` \- still not letter from Ameriprise have an early afternoon flight. `5 11 [afternoon]` \- email form Tesla rep nicely telling me to get the insurance in order because their lot is close to full and he asks for good pickup date and times. `5 13 [close to midnight]` \- finally back home check mail application is here. Look over application fill in missing pieces sign it. `5 14 [morning]` \- USPS overnight signed application back to Ameriprise `5 14 [morning]` \- respond to Tesla rep with times and that I overnighted out the application to the insurance company `5 16 [4:30 pm]` \- USPS finally delivers the overnighted letter \(over a day late\) `5 17 [morning]` \- call Ameriprise the application is in their system. They say up to 5 business days to process it. `5 17 [morning]` \- email Tesla rep apologizing for the delays and that I will have insurance by Monday Tuesday `5 18 [afternoon]` \- insurance finally comes through go to the Tesla site to fill in the insurance info and the VIN is GONE `5 18 [afternoon]` \- send panicked email to Tesla rep and am waiting for a reply. Luckily the site still says I have a delivery appointment scheduled for the 5 27 but now I have to most likely change the vin on the car insurance. After all this I am absolutely spent. I know these are first world problems but with constant checking on things that are out of my control this has been more stressful then it needed to be. I don t know what to do anymore so the best I can do is warn others. UPDATE: After writing this out my sales rep responded. The VIN is fine according to the rep they started removing VINs from the the page once they get closer to delivery to avoid confusion. I am not quite sure how that helps but I am glad everything is in order. Thank you Tesla for putting up with me even though sometimes you do things that backfire. | firemuzzy | 2018-05-18 20:48:54 | 13 | dz7gdyn | Why not get a policy that doesn t do this and then cancel it when you get the other one? | thinkharderest | 2018-05-18 21:01:33 | 23 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
1tg1i8 | Could I test drive the Model S for research? | I m studying Electrical Engineering at Purdue University and EV s are starting to become a passion of mine so Tesla would be my dream job for after I graduate I ve been researching on Tesla and how the car works and seeing it s advances and I wanna take it to the next level and experience it first hand I m kind of a hands on learner and plus this thing (like it s news to anyone here) is bad ass! But could they let someone test drive one to only experience it or can they only allow you if you have intentions to buy one? This maybe a dumb ass question I just asked but never know until you ask. | ARComp93 | 2013-12-22 05:46:23 | 10 | ce7mph9 | Come visit seattle. You can drive mine. | Movinmeat | 2013-12-22 09:04:00 | 11 | Test Driving Tesla Models |
4v2f13 | Could Model 3 end up being better than the Model S? | I almost feel the Model 3 will be a middle ground between the Model S and the roadster. If the Model 3 has comparable Motors (with a Dual option) and similar power delivery the smaller size and weight could make it even higher performance than the S. I actually prefer the smaller size weight of a car for pure fun factor. The S fits the family sedan size while the 3 seems like it will fit more in the compact performance category. Thoughts? | clickclickboo | 2016-07-28 19:09:11 | 17 | d5uv7wz | Better than Model S today? Probably. Better than Model S when the Model 3 is finally released? Probably not. | immareasonableman | 2016-07-28 19:30:40 | 38 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
9295na | Could Tesla create a subbrand to get back in the tax credits game? | I noticed on the phase out tracker that Audi Porsche and Volkswagen all each have about 190k remaining cars until they reach their 200k cars limit. The Volkswagen group then has 600k cars it can sell for the $7500 tax rebate. So couldnt telsa just make a subbrand.. perhaps called Tesla2 (knowing how Elon liked the name of zip2). Then sell the model 3 under that brand? | cenitossss | 2018-07-27 03:44:42 | 30 | e344xvg | I like this idea. Name the brand “Not A Tesla” | mcslave8 | 2018-07-27 05:27:36 | 47 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
6n3mcj | Could Tesla enable the ability to charge (transfer energy to) a car from another Tesla? | If a fellow Model 3 owner was out of energy on the side of the road I d surely stop over to give them a few kW to get them home or to the nearest charger. What is the possibility of the car to do this? | GuardiansBeer | 2017-07-13 18:41:40 | 27 | dk6iuf6 | BYD already offer vehicle to vehicle and vehicle to grid charging on their electric cars and trucks. There s even a 12 car vehicle charging carousel. http: bydeurope.com innovations technology index.php | Freeewheeler | 2017-07-13 19:27:43 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
1td06a | Could Tesla feasibly make a larger battery pack today if money were no object? | i.e. could they have a 100 kw•h pack without changing the form factor of the battery pack as it exists today? I wonder if as they get better supply bring manufacturing in house otherwise reduce costs if they just throw more batteries at the problem without any significant redesign. Or perhaps make it purchasable option despite increased price. | superAL1394 | 2013-12-20 23:44:50 | 10 | ce6upak | Elon has said that Tesla could build a 500 mile battery pack today. The problem is the cost. My guess is that the cost of the cells goes up very fast as the capacity goes up. Current guess is that Tesla uses 3400 mAh cells. 5000 mAh cells are available. If you assume that 3400 mAh cells get you 300 miles range then 5000 mAh cells would get 440 mile range. Tesla is probably aware of even higher capacity cells but they are no doubt super expensive. My guess is that Tesla s goal is around 600 real world miles. That s as much as most people are likely to drive in a day even on a road trip. I would pay a reasonable premium for a battery with a real world 600 mile range. Beyond that I wouldn t pay much as it is kind of stupid to drive any farther in one day. Not to say I haven t done it. Tesla has also suggested that they can make Superchargers charge even faster. The European Superchargers are 135 kW. The current US Superchargers are 120 kW an upgrade from the original 90 kW. Tesla has hinted that 150 kW or more is possible. As u Neebat writes a fast enough Supercharger reduces the need for higher capacity batteries. I d still like a 200 kWh battery pack. | ballshagger | 2013-12-21 04:22:24 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
krqmma | Could Tesla gain back the U.S. Federal EV tax credit now that the Dems control the Senate? | Was holding off on Model Y purchase to 2021 just in case the GA election played out the way it did. Is there any chance we will see Tesla and GMs 200 000 vehicle sales limits removed? Seems like that could be a procedural change done as reconciliation especially since it puts two American car companies at a disadvantage. | RedditExperiment626 | 2021-01-06 15:59:51 | 221 | gibcgce | Seems pretty low on the priority list. If anything you might hear something by the end of the year that could be retroactive to 1 January- is that worth waiting for? | Packerfan735 | 2021-01-06 16:09:38 | 98 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
70xi6l | Could Tesla make an all electric train locomotive? | Aren t most trains electric drive now with massive diesel generators? Does anyone have anything close to a ballpark on this? How much energy is needed to get keep a freight train moving? What kind of battery requirement per mile are we talking about? I m sure simply based on max track incline & friction engineering there s a standard maximum torque figure applied to trains. Is rail transit just generally an inefficient tech except in very specific distance & quantity combinations? --- Edit: Did some googling.. for discussion. One example I dug up.. (specific model wasn t listed) 270 000 lb locomotive the diesel is 3 200-hp engine designed to run at full power high efficiency for decades. < 1000rpm max. Has a 2200 gallon (8 238L) diesel tank. Uses an average of 1.5 gallons of diesel per mile (352 L per 100 km) when towing about five passenger cars.. towing hundreds of fully loaded freight cars multiplies that so small % efficiency & losses add up quickly. The diesel runs a generator which makes ~4700 amps (enough power to run about 1000 houses at peak). 4 trucks w drive motors. Each motor weighs 6 000 pounds (2 722 kg) and can draw up to 1 170 amps of electrical current. locomotive can generate 64 000 lbs of thrust. resistive braking is used but up energy is not stored.. up to 760 amps is currently exhausted as heat through a resistive mesh and blower. (big hair dryer) New locomotives have trip computers to calculate acceleration & braking based on the weight of every car it s pulling and the slope of the track under that car along the length of the train & safe speeds at all points to optimize across miles of track & when to apply power & brakes.. saving up to 14% fuel on some routes compared to human speed control. source ( i hate the paged sites sorry) http: science.howstuffworks.com transport engines-equipment diesel-locomotive.htm On the topic of rail vs pneumatic tire vehicles. rail requires comparitively only 10% of the energy to start the same load and 5.4% as much energy to maintain speed. | Eazz_Madpath | 2017-09-18 19:51:43 | 12 | dn6mxjv | TIL that the USA doesn t have power lines over their railroads. That s almost unheard of here in France : there are very few railroads without them here and nearly all of them are in hard to reach places. I m not sure if putting batteries in all the locomotives is as cost effective as putting electric power lines over the tracks (you only do it once and then you don t have the battery weight to move). This is a different use case than cars : cars can go everywhere their wheels allow trains only follow tracks. | gyverlb | 2017-09-18 20:33:24 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5bsop0 | Could Tesla reduce cost by combining the drive and charging electronics into a single power electronics module? | After all the car is either charging *or* driving. Not both. Doesn t it seem kind of redundant to have separate charging and drive electronics? Could they be redesigned to combine duplicate components and functions? Voltage is voltage whether from the motor or the grid. The current Model S power electronics module (PEM) can charge the battery at 60& nbsp kW during regenerative braking. That s the equivalent of **250& nbsp A charging** at 240& nbsp V. Even if they only realize 80& nbsp A charging that would max out every HPWC and common outlet available. Tesla uses a three phase PEM allowing three phase (global) charging. Musk has explicitly mentioned that the Model 3 will support global charging. I expect a modular plug since Tesla supports three plugs worldwide: North America Europe and China. It would be cool if owners could [safely] swap the plug inserts themselves (real benefit: makes factory re-work a cinch). Under this scheme the car would have three operating modes: * **Charging:** plug -> combined power electronics -> battery * **Supercharging:** plug < -> battery * **Driving:** motor < -> combined power electronics < -> battery This should reduce weight cost and manufacturing impact. One counterargument is that designing a PEM that is efficient for charging and driving might be harder and result in a more complex and less optimal product than designing two dedicated systems. Personally I think Tesla is up to the challenge... | TootZoot | 2016-11-08 11:28:22 | 13 | d9rcwbj | As far as I know that s exactly what the Renault Zoe does with its chamaleon charger. Thats why it is the only car in the road that can charge at 43 kW AC. The problem that it has is that the charger is quite inefficient. | blacx | 2016-11-08 17:53:32 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
brbamw | Could Tesla stock drop be a blessing in disguise? Chance to revisit going private. | I know Elon has said the ship has sailed on going private but that was when stock prices were in the upper $300 s. Now with prices flirting around $200 it s almost a 50% discount on the capital required to go private at $420. I m not saying it should happen only that this may reopen the door to the possibility. Maybe even bring in a strategic partner like Apple or Google just a thought funding secured at $220? | ICBMFixer | 2019-05-21 14:47:38 | 40 | eoc80cy | Keep in mind that they just issued another few billion dollars worth of shares to raise funding. This would be another few billion worth of investment needed to take it private. If they were going to revisit taking back the company they probably wouldn t have issued more stock when they did. | TheTimeIsChow | 2019-05-21 15:59:23 | 22 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
n268e0 | Could a Model Y make driving suck less for someone who detests driving? | I tried finding a similar post to see if that could answer my question but didn t have any luck. My wife has a job that requires a lot of driving. Her company provided a car for her but it s pretty basic. Nothing like automatic cruise control or any of that. She loves her job but hates having to drive anywhere from 20 minutes (to the closer places) and 1hr10m to the father places. She s worried about her safety. She s admittedly not a great driver. She s also worried about potentially falling asleep on the road at 6am on the long boring drives and also just doesn t enjoy driving in general. I m considering proposing we sell my car and buy a Tesla that she can use (she drives to work I WFH). Then I could just use her basic car while she uses the Tesla to get to and from work. I just wanted to clear a few things before pulling the trigger on this conversation. I know that self-driving doesn t necessarily mean you can just read your kindle while your Tesla cruises down the road. What I m really wondering is if current Tesla drivers with this feature could let me know if they feel: * More safe in their Tesla as opposed to their other cars (modern cars with modern safety features)? * That driving was more enjoyable? * For anyone who didn t like driving before can you share your experience moving to a Tesla (good or bad)? Thanks! | dysonsphere87 | 2021-04-30 23:33:10 | 39 | gwhguyf | Yes I don t love driving. I grin ear to ear every time I sit in my tesla. | ISayAboot | 2021-04-30 23:39:36 | 65 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
67bhjv | Could all Tesla s (S & X) become AWD-only? | Looking at recent changes including: 1. Making a glass roof standard 2. Reducing battery options 3. Making power lift gate standard 4. Removing air suspension from all models but one 5. Standardizing interior color combinations for the premium package Based on these items and probably more I haven t noticed (I m mostly focused on a Model 3) it seems like Tesla is streamlining manufacturing assembly. For currently available models among the S and X all models but the S75 are ***AWD only.*** The issue I see with making the last model AWD only is that it raises the entry level price. If they were to make every car AWD then it eliminates the need for FWD production runs and or skipping the front motor installation. Am I missing anything? As a customer I m happy to see the car become more standardized because the more options and packages there are the tougher the choice becomes and the final price (with options) becomes very different than the sticker marketing would imply. I wouldn t mind if there came a day when the only options you could select are premium sound seating and FSD. The rest would be included by default including EAP. My apologies if this isn t a good topic for a thread - I usually just make comments on other threads but it s been on my mind lately. | financiallyanal | 2017-04-24 19:51:43 | 20 | dgp68jf | I ve always considered making things standard or included as a way to maintain a higher price. If you look at the recent price increase of the 100D on the model S and X you ll see that it includes the high amp charger. It was possible to buy the 100D without the charger but now they are forcing you to buy an option you might not want pushing the total price higher. Same with the interior options they are a package not single options. Tesla currently has about 20% profit on each car sold which is amazing for any automotive company. But as they get larger and the price of parts goes down they will feel pressure to lower the price but if you include more and more options as standard you can sort of get away with keeping the price higher. So at some point they will want to keep the price higher on the Model S when the 3 is in production when that happens they can just make AWD standard and kick or keep the price up accordingly. | mwbbrown | 2017-04-24 20:28:09 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6t9eaj | Could my Tesla last my entire lifetime? | So I know no one has actually kept a Tesla this long out for this many miles before but we should be able to do some estimations right? I drive 7-7.5k miles a year and assuming it stays that way I ll hit the 500 000 miles after 40-45 more years and assuming I live to be 100 that would be maybe 900 000 miles. Tesla estimates the motors will last between 500k to 1million miles so that would at least put me somewhere in retirement. No one is sure how long batteries last but the latest burn down charts people post have them bottoming out at 90% which is nbd if it stays that way. At the service center they kind of implied there might be a replacement program too once the batteries get older. Next the body is allumium so it shouldn t rust and as long as I wash the car regularly it should stay pretty good right? What I think might happen first is the leather might become all used up on the seats. As long as the S stays roughly the same dimentions that should be replaceable right? Does anyone know how long car leather lasts? Finally the infotanment ap. Mabye at some point they will shut that off. However that is part of why I paid for the car so it would seem in violation of something or other to remove features after purchase. All in all seems like the only reason to upgrade is when I get bored of it. Did I miss anything? | needaname1234 | 2017-08-12 16:32:35 | 16 | dliw2st | Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely without becoming a cautionary tale about obsession in the face of financial sanity? No. | run-the-joules | 2017-08-12 16:38:07 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5noodl | Could plaid mode be focused on 60-130 instead of 0-60? | I was thinking as teslas approaches the theoretical maximum acceleration for standard vehicles there may not be any room for a plaid mode. The 1 area where tesla loses to other high end sports cars is the continuing acceleration after hitting 60 (tesla racing channel vs Aventador). Tesla p90dl is 60-130 in 11.6 whereas the Aventador is 7.1. Huge difference. Additionally in the movie the modes were about does not necessarily acceleration. Could plaid mode be longer acceleration power? Or maybe 200+ top speed? Anyways just thoughts. | seeasea | 2017-01-13 05:06:53 | 31 | dcd5c5v | As far as I know the main limit on power delivered is what the pack can safely supply. The highest amperage option right now is 1500A. Given the fully charged pack voltage of about 400V and a reasonable drop from internal resistance of the cells figure about 370V tops for the voltage you ll see. This means that the maximum the pack can supply is 555kW - or 745HP. However the cooling demands on the pack that that power level are significant and based on the tendency of the Model S to throttle back power on track days the cooling system cannot keep up. Or the inverters can t keep up. Something hits a limit in a hurry when you try to make a sustained high power high speed track day. There s also a limit in how fast the inverters can drive the field. I have no idea what the gearing is on the Model S and no idea what the inverters are capable of switching at but at some point the inverters can t swing the field around the motor any faster so you can t exceed that speed. It s possible that they could improve it but it seems reasonably unlikely to me. | Syonyk | 2017-01-13 05:19:03 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3d4wx7 | Could small independent gas stations be the key to a network-wide supercharger network? | Just in case there is no such thing in your country an independent gas station (IGS for short) is one that is not affiliated with a specific oil company like Shell or Exxon. We have several of them here in Quebec Canada at least. What if Tesla offered them metered superchargers at a subsidized rates? Why? Let me explain: IGSs are not beholden to anyone. If they are smart enough to know that hydrocarbon fuel sales are eventually going to slide as electric car ownership increases they would know to start looking for alternate revenue sources. Location location location... IGSs are scattered all over the place and are usually located on major roads. IGSs could charge a fee for recharging. EV owners could then decide to use IGSs to avoid lengthy detours to Tesla-operated superchargers. IGSs are very much used to razor-thin margins (often less than 5% on fuel sales) so a 50% margin on electricity sales would be a godsend for them. Tesla owners would be happy to have access to a convenience store and washroom facilities while they charge their vehicles. Rather than be stuck alone in the back of a parking lot in a shady area of town they would be more secure surrounded by staff and security cameras. I could go on but that is already a compelling set of reasons to get independents on board. What do you think? | koshbaby | 2015-07-13 15:34:24 | 30 | ct1t53n | If I am going to be charging for 20-40 minutes I don t really want to hang out at a gas station. I would rather have access to better food options. Subway Qdoba or a local place serving quick made-fresh meals. Superchargers require just a few parking places which is something that most businesses can provide. Gas stations are not in a unique position to offer this service. The other problem is that if Telsa starts subcontracting fee based superchargers then what is their incentive to continue building their network? Would their relationship with contractors limit where they could install free stations? Would they get sued if they installed a free supercharger within 50 miles of their subcontractors? Tesla may be trying to provide good customer service while the fee-based contractors would be attempting to maximize revenue and return on investment even if it meant that drivers had to queue up and wait for a charge. | paulwesterberg | 2015-07-13 16:00:00 | 28 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6lvqtn | Could someone summarize (in a few bullet points) where things stand with Model 3 + the current Autopilot Status (and capabilities)? | Sorry I m busy at work at the moment and I didn t want to forget. Time is tight with work and house buying. I intend on adding this summarized information to the sidebar for quick access for anyone. Just so we don t have to repeat information over and over. --------------- **Autopilot bulletpoint thoughts** May help to have a section for Autopilot will **not**... (as an example **Model 3 bulletpoint thoughts** Info about configurator dates what will be customized when things (AWD Performance) etc are expected to come. ---------------- Ultimately updating the Wiki isn t enough and I want it to be more readily available. Thanks! | 110110 | 2017-07-07 18:45:36 | 23 | djwzq2v | **Autopilot:** AP1 vs AP2 * AP1 consists of vehicles built from around September 2014 - October 2016. It consists of one forward facing camera one forward facing radar sensor GPS and ultrasonic sensors surrounding the vehicle. [Here is a visual representation of the AP1 sensor suite.](https: i.imgur.com 6TcxiNL.jpg) This system is based on a MobileEye EyeQ3 chipset. * AP2 consists of vehicles built from October 2016 to the present day. This suite of sensors include a total of 8 cameras for 360 coverage of the vehicle a forward facing radar GPS and longer range ultrasonic sensors compared to AP1. [Here is a visual representation of the sensor suite.](https: cleantechnica.com files 2016 10 Tesla-Autopilot-Hardware.png) This system is based on a much more capable NVIDIA Drive PX2 computer and is powered by Tesla s in-house Tesla Vision computer vision system. Autopilot Convenience Features (Paid option on vehicles): * Traffic-Aware Cruise Control - Will maintain a maximum speed set by the user or will also maintain a user defined distance between your car and the car in front. * Autosteer - Vehicle will maintain your current lane with the Autosteer feature. Also includes Auto Lane Change which will move vehicle into another lane when initiated by the user when the turn signal is activated. * Automatic Parallel Parking * Automatic Perpendicular Parking * Summon - Currently only straight forward and straight back. Can be initiated from the mobile app the key fob and the gear selector stalk if Continuous Press is disabled in the settings menu. Active Safety Features (Standard on all vehicles with AP hardware): * Forward Collision Warning * Automatic Emergency Braking * Side Collision Warning * Side Collision Avoidance * Blind Spot Monitoring System Limitations: * **Autopilot does not currently have Full Self Driving capabilities** * Autopilot requires driver attention and vigilance at all times. Please pay attention to road and traffic conditions at all times and prepare to take over to manual control. * Autopilot currently **does not** detect or act upon traffic signal lights stop signs or any other signs. AP1 can identify speed limit signs via the camera and will display that information to the driver. AP2 vehicles pull speed information from an online database using the GPS position. AP1 and AP2 vehicles do not adjust speeds based on detected or derived speed limits. * On AP2 vehicles side cameras are currently not active and only currently uses the ultrasonic sensors. So Auto Lane Change can not currently account for rapidly approaching traffic from behind or vehicles two lanes over merging into the same lane. Please check your mirrors for safe lane changing conditions before initiating a lane change. AP1 vehicles will always have this limitation due to the lack of side facing cameras. * Autopilot does not let in vehicles trying to merge into your lane. Autopilot may need to be disengaged in order to yield to merging and lane changing traffic. * Autopilot may have trouble in poor visibility conditions or if lane markings are faded or ambiguous. Be prepared to take over and disengage the system if such conditions are presented. * Autopilot does not navigate construction zones and will also not yield to emergency vehicles. * Autopilot on local roads is still not robust. Please exercise caution when using the system on non-highways. Autopilot use is not encouraged on roads without a center divider. AP2 vehicles have a 360 degree camera system capable of full self driving in the future using Tesla Vision. Many of the above listed limitations will most likely be resolved with upcoming Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self Driving updates to AP2 vehicles. | DDotJ | 2017-07-07 19:26:03 | 37 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
c17zta | Could something be shutting off my charging? (Model 3) | I just picked up my Model 3 Performance (Jun 2019 Build date) this past week and this is the first weekend I ve had it. I don t yet have the NEMA 14-50R outlet installed and when I estimated usage charge I thought it would be easy to maintain a slowly declining max charge during the week by plugging in every night and use the weekend to get it back up to max charge. Or stop by a charging station if I needed to. My commute is ~55 miles per day and when I plug in it seems to say it s getting a consistent 5mph charge (12AMP). That should mean I have a bit over 10 hours of charge per night to recover but it s not quite getting there. I had a trip today with it and when I returned it said it would take 15 hours to charge it. Ok fine... let it go. I came back 5 hours later and it s at 13 hours remaining. So it s only charging half as fast as it s predicting? Is there something I turned on that could be draining it like mad while charging? (Sentry mode disabled while at home FYI) Could the car be turning itself on occasionally? I noticed that if I m in the car while it s charging and the radio is on it says 0mph charging so where s this crazy ~~5KW~~ 1.4KW drain coming from? | nschubach | 2019-06-16 09:03:28 | 10 | erbp8hi | No teslafi or anything to keep it from sleeping properly? | bergmoose | 2019-06-16 12:50:48 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
37atzd | Could the Model 3 be a good police cruiser? My analysis | **TL DR Model 3 could be a great police car. It hits cost parity with an average new police car at a gas price of $2.75 gallon. If gas is more expensive than that police departments will be saving money. Range is unlikely to be an issue and given Tesla s great record of fast safe cars it should function well in the line of fire.** These calculations are based on 4 premises. - Police cars average 25 000 - 30 000 miles year [source](http: www.government-fleet.com article story 2007 03 replacement-mileage-creeping-up-for-public-safety-agencies.aspx) - They are generally sold after about 100 000 miles [source](http: www.government-fleet.com article story 2007 03 replacement-mileage-creeping-up-for-public-safety-agencies.aspx) - Average cost of a new police car (no equipment) was about $20 000 in 2008 [source](http: forums.officer.com t106451 ) - Assuming an annual inflation rate of 2.7% an average police car in 2018 will cost about $26 300 excluding equipment. [source](http: forums.officer.com t106451 ) [Here s a graph of gas prices in the US over the last 40 years](http: www.energytrendsinsider.com 2012 02 27 how-high-have-gas-prices-risen-over-the-years ). It s basically impossible to know where the price of gas will be in the future. Let s make two assumptions: - Widespread adoption of fracking will free up much more oil domestically - The US will not impose a carbon tax Given these assumptions I will use a somewhat low estimate of $2.75 gallon in 2018 dollars. The new [Ford Police Interceptor](http: www.autoblog.com 2012 03 16 ford-police-interceptors-get-official-fuel-economy-ratings-from ) gets 22 combined MPG. So over the 100 000 miles that a police car drives before being sold it will cost **$12 500 in gas** in 2018 dollars. Now to estimate the Model 3 s MPGe. There s a complicated way of doing this where one would estimate the weight of the car the frontal area and the coefficient of drag and use those to come up with a very precise number. I m not going to do that. Instead I m going to guess that the Model 3 s mpge will fall somewhere between that of the Nissan Leaf and the Model S. The EPA s numbers are 380 wh mile for the Model S and 340 wh mile for the Leaf. I m going to guess the Model 3 will hit about 350 wh mile. That works out to 35 000 kWh of electricity over 100 000 miles. Average electricity prices in 2014 were 12.5 cents kWh [source](http: www.eia.gov electricity monthly epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_03). Assuming 2.7% annual inflation that works out to 13.9 cents in 2018 dollars or **$4865 in electricity costs over 100 000 miles**. How about maintenance? According to [this AAA report](http: newsroom.aaa.com 2013 04 cost-of-owning-and-operating-vehicle-in-u-s-increases-nearly-two-percent-according-to-aaas-2013-your-driving-costs-study ) average maintenance costs for a sedan were about 5 cents mile in 2013. This works out to 5.73 cents mile in 2018 dollars or **$5733 in maintenance costs for a gas sedan over 100 000 miles**. Estimating the maintainence for an EV is a little more tricky since there aren t that many out there to compare. [Here s Edmunds.com s estimate of the maintenance cost of a Leaf](http: www.edmunds.com nissan leaf 2014 st-200674102 cost-to-own ) which pins it at $3333 over 100 000 miles. [Here s an article from Green Car reports](http: www.greencarreports.com news 1080925_electric-car-maintenance-a-third-cheaper-than-combustion-vehicles) that estimates that electric cars are 35% cheaper than their gasoline counterparts. [Here s an article that mentions a comparison Ford did](http: evauthority.com ev-maintenance-outlook ) between the Focus and the Focus electric that pinned the savings over 100 000 miles to ~$800. The GreenCarReports estimate is 35% and the Ford estimate works out to about 15%. Let s go in the middle and say there s a 25% savings on maintenance. That would mean that **the average maintenance costs of an electric sedan over 100 000 miles would be $4300.** So: The fuel savings over a gas car would be $7635 over the life of the car and the maintenance savings would be $1433 for a total of $9068 in savings over the 100 000 miles that the average police car is driven before being sold. **Subtract the $9068 savings in maintenance and fuel from the $35 000 price tag and the model 3 ends up costing almost exactly the same as a new 2018 police cruiser** It s important to note just how heavily this price difference depends on the cost of gas and electricity. If we were to instead assume an electricity price of 9.6 cents kWh (cost in cheapest state adjusted for inflation) and a gas price of $4.00 gallon the Model 3 ends up being saving $16 254 in fuel and maintenance costs which means that over the lifetime of the vehicle the Model 3 would cost about $7500 less than a Ford Interceptor. So much depends on fuel costs. > *If you ve read this far thank you. I promise you there are no more numbers after this* That s the economics of it. There s also the not insignificant issue of safety speed range and the cars ability to function for specific things in the law enforcement field. On the first two I think we can say with a fair amount of certainty that the Model 3 will be up to the task. As far as range goes this probably won t be an issue. Police drive an average of about 75 miles in a day so they ll have plenty of range to spare even on a long day with heavy equipment and 2 officers in the car. The only potential issue I can think of would be if there s a high speed chase at the end of a long day and they haven t recharged at all during the day. On the question of the ability of the Model 3 to function for the specific things required by a police cruiser it s more of an open question. I just did a brief comparison of [the 2015 Ford Interceptor](http: www.ford.com fordpoliceinterceptor models # sedan ) with the [Model S](http: www.teslamotors.com support model-s-specifications). The main thing that stood out to me is that the Model S has slightly less interior space especially in the back. If the Model 3 is 20% smaller it s a safe bet that it will have less interior space than the Model S. This could be a problem for police. | Quality_Bullshit | 2015-05-26 06:53:52 | 34 | crl9ed3 | A really ideal vehicle to make electric would be ambulances and similar response vehicles ([emergency phys. vehicles](http: en.wikipedia.org wiki Emergency_physician) firetrucks ...). They tend to spend all their time between responses in a garage and could be easily plugged in | t52nd | 2015-05-26 12:45:52 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
43vjwp | Could the Model S get the panoramic windshield? | I think the panoramic windshield is an AWESOME feature of the Model X and would love to see it in the Model S. I know the Model S redesign is basically a meme at this point in this sub but do you think it could happen? | [deleted] | 2016-02-02 18:33:09 | 12 | czld8a6 | I bet that once the Model 3 is out to be shipped the Model S will be updated without the faux grill on the hood panoramic windshield giant air filter etc. | TheMechanoids | 2016-02-02 20:05:21 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6u9qwu | Could the Model3 not have external frunk release? | As we know [the frunk of the ModelS can be opened from outside](https: electrek.co 2017 02 09 tesla-front-trunk-open-without-key ) the car without the keyfob. But in [TMC s recent blog post about the AP2.5 hardware](https: teslamotorsclub.com blog 2017 08 15 the-model-3-needed-new-ap-hardware-but-not-for-the-reason-everyone-thinks ) they talk about how the car can be secured when operating on the Tesla Network including locking the frunk and truck. > Permissions for anything can be granted to the owner but restricted from other parties. > > The glove box now acts as a safe that you don t need to remember to lock. > > **The front and rear trunks are inaccessible without permission.** > > Nothing proprietary or personal can be accessed from the main display So I m just wondering if that all fits together. Has anyone thought about this as well? | TheNewJasonBourne | 2017-08-17 12:53:08 | 14 | dlr3wvu | Is anyone actually going to buy a model s because tesla is refusing to tell any details about the model 3? This refusal to even describe the features is getting pathological. We get it. You want is to buy an S. But we re not going to. Now tell us how the 3 works. | redditmannnnn | 2017-08-17 14:40:19 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6j92bw | Could the RC cars be headed into showrooms by the end of next month? | With the number of RC cars driving around they could put one in every showroom. This would allow people to see one in person before pulling the trigger. Allowing them to decide on the S or 3. | sheltz32tt | 2017-06-24 16:32:26 | 16 | djcgnw7 | Model3OwnersClub s TrevP s source mentioned a few months back that demo cars were expected to roll out to stores in the early fall (presumed September) so next month is likely a little too early. | EVing | 2017-06-24 16:37:42 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7c26jf | Could the lack of notable AP progress be intentional? | Disclaimer: What I m about to say is purely speculative and I know it will look like I m making excuses which isn t my intent just trying to suss out the situation because progress has been pitiful lately and there has to be a reason. So we ve seen a lot of complaining on this sub about the lack of progress in AP2 and by no means do I disagree with that. 3 months maybe 6 months definitely and all that. But from my perspective its starting to look like 1 of 2 things is going on. **Option 1.)** The mobile eye situation royally fucked Tesla. Their plan to build the capability internally was originally much longer range than they ve let on and when ME peaced out Tesla had to scramble to make it seem like they had their shit together. They re putting up a front like they have it under control and the ME departure is NBD but in reality Tesla was entirely unprepared to build out AP themselves. We haven t seen any real progress because Tesla is just doesn t have the capability and competency they claim to. **Option 2.)** Tesla has it under control. Internally they have a bunch of new features that are ready for release but they re holding onto them. Why? Because they re waiting for the optimal timing from a PR perspective. Right now they have several years worth of Model 3 orders and while S X sales growth has slowed they re still chugging along and the room for growth in the high end market is already pretty limited. Launching a ton of really exciting new features won t drive a ton of new sales it would just be a nice development for all the current owners who are waiting for it. And guess what most of those people waiting are already hard core Tesla fans who will grudgingly put up with it. If they hold off on releasing major AP improvements for another year or so they can do a major release that offers a huge leap over the existing AP which will generate a ton of buzz. At that point the Model 3 production should be ramped up to at least 5K month and hopefully closer to 10K and they ll have made real progress on their backlog. Making a big AP announcement at that point would drive a ton of new interest in the Model 3 and when potential customers look into it they ll be much more inclined to buy when they don t see a 2 year wait for their order to come in. So I know this is a very optimistic view but I m hoping option 2 is what we re seeing right now. Tesla is much further along than we think but they re waiting for the right time to release the features. | getouttheupvote | 2017-11-10 16:34:01 | 19 | dpmkogt | Oh this is a fun one. First [here s something I posted](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6s6bxk can_we_talk_fsd_upgrade_for_a_minute dlaei2n ) about how I think we got to where we are. I believe it s closer to your Option 1 than we ve been led to believe.. What we re seeing right now is Tesla nailing down their vision code. In 2017.42 we saw a big jump in reliability even outside the traditional highways-only autopilot box. In 2017.44 we know that not only is the system reading from more cameras it s identifying things we had no idea it was even looking for like construction zones. I think that good progress is being made it s just not in areas that you can immediately see with each successive update. I think it s crunching a lot more data in the background that we don t know about. Once they confirm that the data its getting is accurate enough to be part of the autopilot decision loop they ll incorporate it. So I think the truth is between Option 1 and Option 2. They ve validating some pretty advanced stuff and they ll activate it when it s safe and advantageous to do so. | majesticjg | 2017-11-10 16:47:12 | 36 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
2j9aii | Could the smaller D Motor be the main drive motor for Model 3? | Just makes too much sense not to mention. | adamantly82 | 2014-10-14 21:52:00 | 12 | cl9kt23 | Yes and I expect the model 3 to have a higher end version. Remeber the model S was the $50 000 car but there were such low pre-order numbers for the 40KWh 50K version the scrapped it. So the model 3 will have a 35K version with 200 miles range and 1 motor. Everything else will be an option. Bigger battery leather autopilot AWD nicer rims paint superchargers data plan and performance whatever. I d expect to pay more like 50K | lmurphy137 | 2014-10-14 22:15:28 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4i9a8z | Could this sub be a less zealot about Tesla ? | Ok I perfectly understand this is a TESLA sub with TESLA fans and TESLA shareholders. However it s becoming a bit difficult to find actual information in the midst of all the zealotry and circlejerk. Not all is pink and smooth in the Tesla world and it would be pretty good to know a bit more about what is not working since that should be the place for that too. I m a very happy e-Golf owner who ordered a model 3. Well 2 of them because they screwed up. And got billed 4 times (yeah 6000 dollars for ONE reservation I made in the shop instead of 1500...). I don t really care about brand really only about what is good not good I decided on a Tesla for my next car (Model 3 as I said but maybe model S or X) but it s becoming super hard to find info here as the negative posts are downvoted (or not upvoted much) and the positive ones are upvoted a lot and the dissing on other brands is at best in bad faith when it s not actually dishonest. EDIT 1: I shouldn t have put the thing about the over-billing. It was more of a since we re on that topic... . The issue was partially fixed after 2 weeks and while I still have an extra reservation I didn t make it s not a huge deal. What I meant was I would like to hear more about actual defects or problem on the cars so I can choose wisely and my over-billing thing is just an annoyance and definitely not something that happened to many people I guess. EDIT 2 : Thanks a lot about the explanations on what is short-selling and how that works ! EDIT3 : Thank you for the great conversation. It s really interesting. Outside the Reddit influence (the way Reddit works) I can see Tesla has their own issues with trolls opposite interests ( Tesla shorts anti-EV ) which puts pressure on the sub and cause this zealotry . FINAL EDIT : As it was mentioned maybe I shouldn t have used the term circlejerking as it comes of pretty impolite rude. English isn t my first language it s sometimes hard to see that a term widely used (on Reddit) can still be hurtful. I hope the message behind came accross. | the_geth | 2016-05-07 08:35:34 | 84 | d2w9llv | I think a lot of us are legitimately and fairly critical of Tesla s many shortcomings including but not limited to: 1. Reliability issues 2. Inability to meet deadlines (overpromise underdeliver) 3. Communications issues at all levels 4. Questionable marketing strategies like the horsepower scandal 5. Poorly functioning beta software like the navigation system In addition to u stevejust s comments which hit the nail on the head calling for evidence a quality complaint is one that does so with the intent of seeking improvement rather than pointing out a flaw and just bitching about it. I.e. What can be done about it? What should be done about it? What have YOU done about it? I also think that like any community you will find those have a history of quality posts and comments in this sub will be taken more seriously than those who don t. Maybe this is what circlejerking means but I m sorry if for example u dieabetic posts a bitchy rant about his drive unit failing I m going to be a heck of a lot more interested and willing to dig deeper into his experience than if the same is done by u tesla_blows_chunks (Redditor for 1 days). | EatMoarToads | 2016-05-07 12:00:45 | 48 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ibq0uk | Couldn t be happier! | After doing extensive research and reading posts on the sub about poor quality control tedious delivery and terrible customer service I was a little nervous going into the pickup phase of my new Model 3. My delivery date got rescheduled 3 times due to the logistics team miscalculating delivery only for it to be delivered earlier than I originally requested. I just picked up the car this weekend and wanted to post about how absolutely stunning the vehicle is. There were no paint problems no misaligned panels and it drives like a dream. The navigate on autopilot feature has been nearly flawless for me so far. There are a lot of posts about the downsides of dealing with Tesla (rightfully so) but I have nothing but good things to say so far about the car itself and wanted to share my story to help inform those of you who are teetering on the edge of becoming part of the fleet. | ABluePen | 2020-08-17 23:56:41 | 169 | g1xh2it | Just took delivery of my 3LR this afternoon as well and can happily confirm that it went smoothly and the car is perfect! Rep warned me last week it might be delayed but I got a call this morning letting me know it was ready. Took touchless delivery without any issues and car seems free of any paint glass panel issues! I m already in love! | Fonzie1225 | 2020-08-18 00:15:05 | 59 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9h1s7i | Count Up : 900 Days Since First Deposits For Model 3 | Fun fact of the day! It has been 900 days since the initial deposits were placed for a Model 3. There was no SR or LR Model that morning. We were all just reserving a Model 3 that may have taken more than 900 days to arrive. I m still looking forward to ordering but it has been a long wait. Fingers crossed for less than 1000 days for some SR orders! (Probably not happening) 1000 Days Date = December 26th 2018. Time Until 3 Years = 195 days. Anyone know what the longest wait for a Roadster S or X was? | binkbankb0nk | 2018-09-19 03:41:38 | 22 | e68jion | Deposits for the Roadster opened in 2006 and the first 100 were sold by about August-ish. [Source.](https: www.theautochannel.com news 2006 08 16 018881.html) They began being delivered at the end of October of 2008. Mine was November 4th 2008 and it was #87. That is about **815** days or so give or take 30 here and there. The reservations for the Model S [opened up in early 2010 about April.](https: www.tesla.com blog tesla-takes-more-500-model-s-reservations-week) The first Model Ses were delivered in June of 2012 unless you count Jurvetson s. About **750** days. Model X deposits opened in February 2012 and the first were delivered in September 2015. About **1350** days or so. | stevejust | 2018-09-19 03:54:53 | 38 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
96q3qf | Country roads range | Hi We re looking at hiring a Tesla for a weekend away before possibly buying one. However driven legally but vigorously on country roads what sort of range should we expect from a 75d? I know they quote a range of 210 but our leaf has a quoted range of 150 and we rarely get more than 100. I d target err on the side of caution as this is only a question of route planning not one of do I think the car is any good so please be harsh. This is country roads without charging points with a group of friends in other performance cars so i need to get this right. Thanks in advance. Edit: corrected model. Sorry | cbehopkins | 2018-08-12 16:08:28 | 12 | e42e59n | Here s a little real world data: I regularly drive the 190 miles from the Evanston WY supercharger to Jackson WY in my 75D. Definitely not driving spirited but averaging around 70 and overtaking slower vehicles every now and then. In the summer that ll take me from ~95% to ~15% and it s about the limit of how far I personally am comfortable driving through the middle of nowhere with no chargers. I may be wrong about this but it feels like average speed has a stronger effect on range than how often and hard I accelerate. Teslas have amazing regenerative braking so they ll regain most of the energy you would normally bleed by slowing down after overtaking someone etc. | samelaaaa | 2018-08-12 16:46:09 | 16 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7bmzdc | Couple of questions concerns regarding my recent Model S purchase. | I took delivery about 2 weeks ago. 1. My alignment seems a little off. Taking my hands off the wheel for a second I can feel the car moving right. Anyone have alignment issues with a recent purchase? 2. Anyone believe purchasing the maintenance plan is a good idea? Or bad idea? Thinking about getting 2 year plan. 3. Battery maintenance- I am a little paranoid about this. I ve read it s best to keep battery between 30-80% charged (which I do follow) and to rarely hit 100%. I don t have a way of charging my car at my apt. complex so the only time I charge is at the supercharger (15 miles away) and I do this twice a week. Am I doing a good job maintaining my battery? Anything else I can do? Or am I worried for no good reason? Edit 1: Thanks for the input :) Edit 2: just noticed that my numbering scheme doesn t show up right. 1 2 3. Is showing up 1 1 1. | iwannahitthelotto | 2017-11-08 17:48:42 | 11 | dpj7kpn | 1) Bring it to service center. Double check tire pressures first. 2) If you actually are going to get the annual service (which I do recommend for these cars even though not required)... the maintenance plan saves you money. If you are going to skip annual services and maybe only do it every 2 years then dont get it. 3) You are worrying for no good reason. Charge it to 80-90% daily and itll be fine. If you MUST charge to 100% make sure to leave immediately when it hits 100%. Just don t let it sit at 100% for long - that can hurt the battery (especially if its hot outside). Beyond that I would not worry about battery maintenance. Enjoy and welcome to the club! | dieabetic | 2017-11-08 18:01:03 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6tk9mo | Couple questions for you lucky Tesla owners | Howdy all 2 questions for you fine Tesla driving folk. 1) in the S (or X) is there a speed limiter type function? In my car I have 2 options cruise (as you d expect) and limiter. I can drive along with a limit set of say 60 km h I control the vehicle speed the normal way but the car won t go over 60 km h. Unless I plant my floor to the floor that is. I love the feature especially in school zones etc. A few BMWs have it as do Audi s wondering if Tesla s have the same feature. If not would the adaptive cruise do something similar? 2) can the home chargers be ceiling mounted? I ve looked at the specs and it doesn t look like it would prohibit mounting horizontally (on the ceiling) as opposed to vertically (on a wall). Would work better that way for my garage set up. Tesla test drive next week fun times ahead! | Schnooks | 2017-08-14 04:51:19 | 11 | dllenwg | There is no speed limiter (except valet mode) but you can set it to give a visual or auditory chime warning if you exceed a set speed. | Doctor_McKay | 2017-08-14 06:13:05 | 10 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4y68q4 | Coupon Code for anyone looking to order a JuiceBox. | Hi Folks After debating the HPWC I decided to go with a JuiceBox Pro 75A and found a promo code online for $50 off. Code is EVNOV. | trinitesla | 2016-08-17 15:32:23 | 11 | d6l99gd | I m not seeing how it is a better option than the HPWC. + It attaches via wall socket + Doesn t lock you into Tesla - Its aesthetics are less desirable - The features provided by smartphone integration seem to mostly be already provided by the Tesla cars themselves - $350 more expensive than the 24 HPWC - It uses SAE J1772 so if you are using the included holder you need to disconnect and reconnect the adapter. Or you need to figure out a new solution for storing the cord with the Tesla adapter. | Ansuzalgiz | 2016-08-17 15:47:29 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
jv0tuc | Courtesy reminder for those with large SSDs | Reminder that eventually the RecentClips folder will stop recording completely when the Saved and Sentry folders are full. It will overwrite oldest clips in those last but even with a 400G partition I didn t realize mine was full and it wasn t saving to RecentClips folder at all. It would have still saved if I clicked on the save button or honk on save but something those are not 100% reliable So remember to archive or periodically delete old Sentry and Saved folders. (side note I was re-watching some clips from the Stranger Things Drive-Into from last night). | emailrob | 2020-11-16 04:51:40 | 24 | gch6lrq | Tesla needs to get this feature dialed in | permanentmarker1 | 2020-11-16 08:00:18 | 22 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
kagcn1 | Coworkers Model 3 completely died while driving this morning. | Right after dropping off his kids it died pulling out of the school. He said car went completely dead lost power steering and had to stand on the brakes to get it to stop. Luckily he was only going ~15 20mph. He used the handle to get out and then instinctively shut the door. There seems to be no way to get back into the car.. He called tesla and after first accusing him of improperly jumping the car (which he didn t do and wasn t even aware it was possible to jump) they re towing it 250 miles away to the nearest service center with his wallet and computer inside the car. Luckily he didn t have his kids in the car... but if he did is the only option to break the windows at that point? | ljump12 | 2020-12-10 14:38:23 | 65 | gfadc61 | Did [opening the frunk](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=6h2y3pl4DqU) and jumping the 12v battery help? I would expect the 12v just disconnecting to not power down the car since the 400v-> 12v should keep things running and at best you get a big warning about a disconnected battery. | nod51 | 2020-12-10 15:28:33 | 39 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8qldpi | Crappy customer service experience (model 3) | Here is my Model 3 experience: Customer service rep had no clue as to terms and conditions of the loan so I opted to pay cash rather than jump blindly into a payment schedule. Customer service rep had no clue as to how much did the car cost. I asked several times and got only estimates. In the end I called the help line only to be forwarded back to my customer service rep and hear once again how she does not know. She suggested I bring a certified cheque for $78.5K and a check book in case the amount she quoted was incorrect. I was told that home delivery could take several weeks so I opted to pick it up 450km away. I emailed my customer service rep to ensure that the car will be fully charged on pick up so I could make it home after the delivery. My appointment was at 3:15pm. I arrived shortly after 2pm informed the intake people that I m in the delivery centre and would appreciate if they could see me earlier. I also asked them to ensure that he car was charged as I had a trip home to make that night. They said OK someone will call you soon. At 3:15 I went back to the intake desk asking about my appointment was told to wait for someone to call me. At 4pm I was called to sign the paperwork. I asked the person to ensure the car was charged. As my insurer needed a copy of the bill of sale to process my insurance coverage I asked to have it faxed to them. There was no fax available I was pointed to an Aviva stand where I could apparently sign up for insurance instead. In the end paperwork was sent by email so no biggie other than the attempt at having me change insurance companies. The certified cheque I brought was for too much money. Apparently Tesla will refund the difference in several weeks (you re welcome for the free loan Tesla). My new car was not charged. I spent the first half an hour of car ownership in the loading dock of the delivery centre waiting to get enough charge to make it half way home. Someone took my die cast. Bastards! The supercharger charge of $11 at the half way point in my drive home felt exactly like a kick to the nuts from Tesla. The car is phenomenal. Hands down the best handling car I have ever driven and I have driven BMW M3 Audi A6 and Mercedes GLA 45 AMG. The acceleration the silence the quality of the sound system everything – this car is like an iPhone where all other ones are clamshells. I m in love and wife is jealous. TL DR: Get home delivery. | funny_retardation | 2018-06-12 18:32:48 | 10 | e0k45tv | You can see exactly how much you need to pay by simply logging into your Tesla account that s where I paid mine too. | zyzeast | 2018-06-12 19:05:22 | 14 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6z41zk | Crash-avoiding acceleration | We all know that Tesla s brake to avoid a crash. But wouldn t it be a cool feature if it accelerated when it detected a car was crashing into it from the back because it accelerates so quickly. EDIT: Maybe this isn t a hood idea xD but something like flashing the hazards and tightening the seatbelt (like volvo) would be a nice start. | Merobieboy | 2017-09-09 20:35:13 | 10 | dmsbkre | A false positive would be terrifying. | greygabe | 2017-09-09 20:54:57 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
cpjxfv | Crashed my ModelX: Day #1 | Earlier this afternoon I was driving down the street and I t-boned another car. Everyone was fine. This is an interesting experience and new for me so I figured I d share. I was driving down a relatively busy street with the right of way and a car popped out from a side street. I had maybe 1 second to react and while I managed to slow down quite a bit I still hit the other car. It couldn t have been much more than 10 mph (airbags did not deploy) but wow was there a lot of damage (at least superficially). [Ouch!](https: i.redd.it o0rlyrmeg3g31.jpg) There were two kind witnesses who stopped. After the police arrived we swapped insurance. The officer said that he was going to write up the report that it was the other driver s fault. I ended up calling Tesla Roadside Assistance and they said that I should find an authorized dealer who will take the car and then give them an address before they called a tow truck. They said they d email me a list of authorized dealers near me. Two minutes later I get the list...there are two dealers on it (near Boston) and one is an hour (!) away. I call the one nearby and the guy says he s full and that he can check but he s not sure. He calls back and asks if the car drives and I say yes and then he said he could take the car. He joked that all you guys keep crashing your Teslas! I get the sense they were overwhelmed. By the way this is the link on the Tesla website to find an [authorized body shop near you](https: www.tesla.com support body-shop-support). So I called RA back with the collision shop address and within a few minutes they texted me that the tow truck was on the way that it would arrive in an hour and that the towing company would bill the collision repair shop. Nice. My next call was to my insurance company to file a claim. I use MAPFRE insurance. I called and they took about 15 minutes to open a claim and take a bunch of information. I got a call within about an hour from the adjuster assigned to my claim who said he would be onsite to look at the car tomorrow...impressive. This is my first car accident in 30 years and the first involving insurance so I m curious to see how this plays out with a $100K car. Thinking about the accident I m curious about two other things: 1. **Dashcam**. So just this past weekend I installed a new 128GB USB thumb drive and had tested it out. The good news is that it appears to have captures video. [Here are two relevant clips](https: imgur.com a 0Tt4DxO). Unfortunately there is a gap of about 2 seconds between the end of the first video and the beginning of the second. That gap is kind of important in that it shows (I think) how quickly the other car darted out in front of me. Why is there this gap? I don t see the gap between other clips on the USB. I did hit the save clip icon on the console a few seconds after the crash. But I see a folder for saved clips and recent clips . Do you think me hitting save created the gap? Should I have not hit save? 2. **Autobraking**. Why didn t the Tesla auto brake? I thought I read somewhere that the car would automagically brake when traveling less than 45 mph. I m pretty sure I had that feature turned on. Does it not always work? Did it work and I just can t tell? I ll update this post once I get further into the insurance claiming and repair process. I have a feeling it s going to take a while to get my car back. I m also kind of skeptical that the car will be the same afterwards. So how was your day?! -) UPDATE: Just got news from my insurance agent that the claim was surrogated which means that I won t be seeing any out of pocket fees and my rates shouldn t change. Yay. Body shop is working on the car...they are still saying 4 weeks but that s likely to change. | wittyid2016 | 2019-08-12 22:43:50 | 64 | ewq9djs | Glad you are OK looks like your car took the damage which is expensive but at least you are OK. What I did when rear ended - advice to use as you see fit. 1) do not open a claim with your insurance notify them but often opening a claim ups your rate even if you are not at fault. My insurance did not open a claim but took info and the other guy s insurance took care of things 100% so no increase in my rates. 2) if the car is drive-able have a good look and if you are confident it s OK to drive have the repair place tape down any loose ends really well. Parts may take a while and you probably only have a loaner for a month. No point in burning up your month if your car can still drive. My parts took about six weeks during which I drove my car. Two weeks to repair which I could have had a loaner. If you are getting errors from the sensors that used to be in the bumper you may be able to tape them facing forward (I taped my facing aft). As long as they are dangling or see something moving like ground or suspension or wheels you will get alarms. 3) be an active participant good chance to learn more about the car and in my case change the repairs. There was a tiny scratch on my trunk lid on the inside where I closed it on something they added to the accident bid. That would be a repaint of the trunk lid and I was afraid of a color problem I told them not to do that part of the repair. It took them two tries to get the bumper color exactly right so I am glad they did not do the lid too much paint build up. 4) When parts come in be sure ALL the parts have come in. My repair guys had an opening and wanted to get started but some of the bumper mounting was en route so I declined. Of course the parts were a week late and the car would have been in the shop much longer if I did not insist on all parts present before starting work. None of this is atypical in body repair except possibly parts availability. | duke_of_alinor | 2019-08-13 01:34:14 | 25 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
be94mm | Crazy Poor Efficiency on First Road Trip | So I ve had my Model 3 for about a month and have 3000 miles on it. My normal commute is almost 100 miles round trip on the highway with an average efficiency of 260 wh mi. Not amazing but it is a significant elevation change so i never worried about it. However I just did my first long trip from Orange County to Monterey and the efficiency was atrocious. I know speed wind temp etc are all factors but this was really bad. I ran several tests at different speeds. Ill do the math based on supecharger usage but it was easily over 350 wh mi and seemed to get worse as I drove. At one point I was on cruise control at 65 clearly going downhill and was still getting over 300 wh mi. I had an issues a few weeks ago with a noise from my front left wheel. Service center said the brakes hadnt been worn in yet and after a few hard braking runs the noise went away. However it has now started to come back. Im wondering whether something is dragging in the brake system and causing excess friction. If it isnt that then something seems very wrong. I know I sound a little paranoid but my 5 supercharger stops and the continuing decrease in % expected at arrival indicate otherwise. Ill call tesla when they open but has anyone ever heard of or experienced Something similar? | Trobo510 | 2019-04-17 15:27:43 | 10 | el3xaoj | Sounds like brakes may be calibrated poorly going downhill at 65mph should not be 300wh mile. | madmax_br5 | 2019-04-17 15:32:04 | 27 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6gr83a | Crazy couple of minutes on AutoPilot: Road-rager | Just had a crazy couple of minutes with a tailgater on the M1 motorway in England. Was quite happily following a truck on autopilot set to follow a 3 cars length just above the speed limit. A guy in a BMW speeds up behind me and starts to tailgate all of the motorway lanes are occupied so there s nowhere for me to go even if I wanted to. I m driving with my rear-camera on and although he looks a little way back in the camera in my rear-mirror all I can see is this car so he must be pretty close. All of a sudden the truck I m following brakes so autopilot does the same causing this guy to nearly pile into the back of me. He flashes his lights undertakes me and pulls into the 3-car-length-gap in front of me and brake-checks me back. AutoPilot starts emergency braking and bleeping loudly. Responded beautifully The guy is obviously an arsehole and felt aggrieved at AP braking in response to the truck in front. I don t think there was anything I could have done differently but roll on the day when idiots like this have their driving done for them. | _simo | 2017-06-12 09:46:18 | 227 | disg661 | Sounds like a great time to stick both hands out the window to flick him off. Allows you to say youre an asshole and you re letting a computer threaten your masculinity at the same time. | WhiskeySauer | 2017-06-12 10:11:12 | 142 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
ef2okt | Crazy experience trying to rotate tires | So last week went to my usual place to rotate tires and they said they didn t want to lift the car because they could damage the battery. So I finally bought those lift pucks for my Model 3. I visited my usual car services locations yesterday. The first few my mind was blown from the experience. Pep boys they initially didnt want to touch the car. Then they found the car in the system and it showed 120$ to rotate tires with a 2 hour wait. I turned it down. Next I went to head to Mavis. The guy said he doesnt service Teslas. I asked why. He said he doesnt service high end cars. I said you service BMWs...he says they are not High End... I am just rolling my eyes at this point. Then I ask is this Mavis policy or yours. He said it is mine. I just leave. Too be he doesnt realize that my other car is a BMW which they serviced many times. So I call around and everyone says they dont touch Teslas. On the way to pick up my kids from Day Care I decided to try one last place that I used to get my inspection. The guy said no problem. 15 mins later my car was done. I asked the techs what is going on why so many places shut me down.. they said they dont know but they get Model 3s non stop. The whole thing cost me 30$ cash. Yes it was worth it driving around for an hour looking for a place to rotate my tires. I am in Nassau County Long Island. Anyone need location of this place PM me. Update: BJs also refused earlier in the week. I am a member. | slingxshot | 2019-12-24 15:23:17 | 158 | fbxvbig | Discount Tire services Teslas and rotation is free. | jkcheng122 | 2019-12-24 15:31:02 | 160 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
6z3czc | Crazy hail damage to Model S with equally crazy repair delays and duration | Back in May I was driving on I-25 headed to Denver from Boulder and I was caught in a hail storm in bumper-to-bumper traffic. There was nowhere to go as the hail pummeled the vehicle shattering the entire windshield cracking the roof and damaging every single panel on the car. Ironically I was headed to the Tesla Service Center in Denver for a minor repair. When I arrived Tesla employees came out to marvel at the damage to my vehicle saying that they had never seen such damage to a Model S before. I just said This is why we have car insurance. After having the vehicle inspected by State Farm Insurance I was given a check for $18k. Then I contacted the one auto body shop in the Denver metro area who is certified to work on Porsches BMWs Mercedes and Teslas. They reassessed the damage to be about $23k and ordered the necessary parts in anticipation of delays. The rep told me that two month delays on parts are not out of the ordinary for Tesla. Even so the shop is so busy that it had to schedule my car for repair in February 2018 if you can believe that. Furthermore they expect repairs to take 2-3 months time! Check out the hail damage in some photos I made available: [Tesla Hail Damage](https: imgur.com gallery 5xeIZ). | brucesnyder | 2017-09-09 18:34:16 | 37 | dms68h2 | > After having the vehicle inspected by State Farm Insurance I was given a check for $18k. Is this how it works in the US? Don t you just send the bill to your insurance company and they pay it? Seems odd that they would pay you directly before knowing how much it will cost to fix. | scottrobertson | 2017-09-09 18:58:37 | 12 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
5of0zr | Crazy idea: Giving supercharging credit (or other credit) for referrals. | I was just thinking about how Tesla s revised referral program works and then started thinking about other companies referral programs. Why not give options for referral credit? With my hotel referral program I can choose points airline miles or a combination of the two. Would that not work well with the car referrals? For example: - If you do a lot of long distance driving 15000 miles worth of supercharger credit for each referral. - If you don t give an annual inspection for a referral or other things that are primarily a service cost. - AP upgrade to next class if available at 4 referrals for example AP activation or advanced AP activation (if supported on the car) if AP is already purchased. - If you re a great salesman brand pitchman upgrade a 60 to a 75 for 6 or 7 referrals. - With 10 referrals $10000 off of your next car. I think this could work really well. They could also add additional incentives for making sales in territory not covered by stores or where the sales model is under legal dispute. I can use my Intercontinental points for airline tickets stuff from a catalog free lodging and a couple of other things. Basically the only thing I can t get is money. | Zorb750 | 2017-01-17 01:29:23 | 47 | dcixk90 | It would probably run afoul of laws regarding incentivized sales income tax collection etc. | paulwesterberg | 2017-01-17 03:00:35 | 9 | Issues with Tesla Referral Program |
6mzojx | Crazy question anybody know what Tesla is using for their service center flooring?? | I ve always been interesting in a super clean white floor for my room. I was watching the recent [Service video by Tesla](https: youtu.be PBbzOBQmk-0?t=32) and couldn t help but keep noticing how clean and white the floor is. No dents or dullness looks great. Any idea what material they re using? | asimo3089 | 2017-07-13 05:38:37 | 13 | dk5ny1z | Probably epoxy. Fairly common for garage floors. | SilverlightPony | 2017-07-13 07:04:20 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
359td9 | Cream of Tesla Q1 2015 discussion laced with golden nuggets on the powerwall | A couple of days ago FredTesla created [an excellent thread](http: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 351ukd live_updates_and_discussion_thread_tesla_motors ) covering updates for the live discussion on the 2015 Q1 earnings. Out of curiosity I listened to the full audio lasting over an hour (1:16). I expected a dry report detailing the minutiae of Tesla s business earnings and proceedings but instead found a lively discussion laced with info made of pure gold dust about the power wall and how successful it has already been. For those who don t have time to listen for an hour I ve collected the very best quotes which I will display below (omitting the things we already know like the Model 3 unveiling date). I will also intersperse these quotes with my own comments. For posterity the full audio is [available here](http: earningscast.com TSLA 20150506) (no signup required) and I also found the full [transcript here](http: seekingalpha.com article 3151236-tesla-motors-tsla-elon-reeve-musk-on-q1-2015-results-earnings-call-transcript). Enjoy! **8:10 - Straubel**: > We do have hundreds of vehicles in the battery swap program it s not like ten or something like that. Oh the battery swap thing - I wondered where that got to... **8:30 - Musk:** > There is not a lot of interest in people doing [battery] pack swap.... ....We make invitations and we get a very small percentage that actually take us up on that invitation. Ah so it doesn t look like it got very far. **8:40 - < question asker> **: *Solar city has said that they re not going to use the 7kWh battery.... that it doesn t make economic sense* . Ah yes there was an [unfairly downvoted thread](http: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 358xle solarcity_says_no_thanks_to_teslas_new_battery ) on this today. **9:10 - Musk:** > The response has been overwhelming.... like crazy.... In the course of less than a week we ve had 38000 reservations for the powerwall [50000-60000 powerwalls] 2500 reservations for the powerpack [bought by utilities large industrial - at least 10 powerpacks per reservation = 25000 powerpacks] . Sounds good... **10:15 - Musk**: > We re basically sold out through the middle of next year in the first week - it s just crazy....we had 2500 requests from companies who want to distribute and install the powerpack - we can t even respond to them - we have to like triage our response to those who want to be a distributor. It seems to have gone super-viral . Sounds even better... **11:45 - Straubel**: > [SolarCity is US only and is not operating in Europe. Several non-US markets would allow the daily-cycling powerwall to make economic sense today so SolarCity s comments need to be put in the regional context]. Ah that s a little more reassuring to hear. **13:35 - Musk**: > [Gross margin target for the power wall pack around 20% is a reasonable guess] So if it costs Tesla say a hypothetical $1000 to produce a battery unit they will sell it for $1250. Not too shabby. **15:08 - Musk**: > We ll see demand for stationary storage as measured in watt hours to be double that of the car - that s our best guess for long term demand. Yep. . **16:00 - Musk:** > [Backup power battery chemistry is similar to the car - Nickel-cobalt-aluminium cathode (60-70 cycles per year)..... Daily Cycling type is Nickel-manganese-cobalt (365 cycles per year)] Always interesting to see the chemistry for these things. **17:00 - Musk**: > [Daily cycle version should last around 15 years.].... Obviously the warranty period would be less than that . **20:00 - Musk**: > Just a guess... 5 to 10x more megawatt hours will be deployed at the utility and heavy industrial scale than at the consumer scale . Now THIS is what I think is the most interesting quote in the entire report. Even if standard consumers don t want the powerwall (at least in the US) it doesn t much matter because utilities and heavy industrial companies outnumber domestic use by 5-10x!! **21:55 - Musk:** > We could easily have the entire gigafactory just do stationary storage **22:20 - Musk:** > [A third of the gigafactory (15 gWh of total 50 gWh) was originally reserved for stationary storage] **22:40 - Musk:** > Seems like the logical thing to do [to extend the gigafactory by 50%+ or maybe more] Nice so now the gigafactory will be even bigger! **24:40 - Musk:** > A few points of clarification that should be made regarding the powerwall.... The powerwall does include a DC-DC inverter that can interface directly with the solar power installation and if somebody has a solar power installation they ll already have a DC-AC inverter for the solar power system and so no incremental DC-AC inverter is needed. ...allaying fears somewhat over the cost of a full installation. **25:50 - Musk:** > [The powerwall is capable of operating at a much wider temperature than shown so we need to fix the stat on the website]. I recall on the website something like -20 to +40 degrees centigrade. Looking again that hasn t [really changed](http: www.teslamotors.com powerwall) yet.... **26:15 - Straubel:** > If anything it s quite over-engineered for a battery pack that doesn t have to move.....so that s a great benefit for reliability and the longevity of the pack. **29:20 - Straubel:** > [If there s a better battery chemistry] we can also adjust and change over time so there s a lot of flexibility. Yay a modular gigafactory! **1:14:30 - Musk:** > [Model X will be seen and configurable online] probably 3 months from now.....maybe July...The performance is just surreal. It s like nothing else is comparable. Natch. So in summary hearing that report has made be 3-6 times as excited as I was before about the power wall and pack. Go Tesla! | twinbee | 2015-05-08 08:46:56 | 66 | cr2exlv | This is why this company is awesome. Constantly doing right things for consumers and the world. Thanks for sharing. | Burning_Trees | 2015-05-08 11:12:00 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dfx7hy | Create find a Tesla Model 3 data sheet | I m looking for a double page datasheet that either exists or working with people to create. Basically I d like a double sided page that I can have in the car that has all the specs about the car details on how everything works FAQ motor vs ice efficiency environment impact etc to be able to give out to people who ride in the car who are interested in knowing more. So I m interested in either finding one that exits and modifying it or working with people to create one. Personally I think it would be great to have one for every variant of the 3 S and X that owners can download and print. Thoughts? | strontal | 2019-10-10 12:21:16 | 14 | f37wu5g | Sad to see people downvote you for this. There s no reason it has to be related to Tesla itself NDAs or cults. As an engineer I understand why you d want to do this. Coworkers get in and ask all sorts of questions. It d also be a good conversation piece. As an owner I understand why you d want to do this. Friends and family get in and ask all sorts of questions. It d also be a good conversation piece. Some owners here have Uber d people around to share the Tesla love and they might be interested. They could have copies the riders can take with them if they want. I don t have a need for it but I hope you make it happen. You do you man. Here s an upvote to bring you back to break even... | daiei27 | 2019-10-10 18:13:13 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
l50r0a | Creating Condo building charging infrastructure | Hi I live in a Condo building with a parking garage and reserved spaces. I d like to get a charger installed but will be the first here and HOA board doesn t know where to start. Do you have suggestions on how to set up the infrastructure? Do you have metering per space at the charging point outlet? I m not sure what is possible. thanks | x543265432 | 2021-01-25 23:36:32 | 31 | gksubj9 | We evaluated Chargepoint Blink Evercharge SemaConnect and Xeal for our complex (early 00 s construction individual meters wanted common charging but no HOA overhead for billing). I initially tried pitching the building on an individual charger for my spot but they were concerned about the scalability of that approach - both from a conduit POV and from a building power capacity perspective. Chargepoint was quickly out due to cost- the chargers were expensive and high per user fees. Blink and SemaConnect just didn t offer a lot of features- they could do the billing but you were on your own for connectivity and any sort of demand management. Evercharge and Xeal were our final two contenders. We ended up going with Xeal because their overall setup was more affordable (including the costs to end users) and they had some solid demand shifting tech that was relevant to us in CA to avoid peak charges for the complex (which would be impossible to pass on to end users). We probably would be equally happy with Evercharge had we gone that direction. If you re making your case to the HOA make sure you also highlight the 30% federal tax credit that I believe was recently renewed for the hardware install. Also look for utility and or local community district incentives. It went a long way in helping defer the cost for our install. Expect that your HOA will hem and haw at the cost and whether it will be an operational nightmare. Feel free to DM me if you have more specific questions as you work through the process. It took us about 8 months from concept to install as we kept going back and forth on approach and funding. | dragonflight | 2021-01-26 07:03:04 | 18 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
i8jk4o | Creating an app that allows you to automatically upload and view sentry clips | I m currently working on an app that automatically scans and uploads sentry clips to the cloud so you can see them on your mobile phone. Here s a quick sneak peek of the app itself: https: preview.redd.it nio286aramg51.jpg?width=1017& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=5ff5337d4994b2016d3b70bd174b3e2152d1d866 If you can think of any features or requests feel free to let me know! | rufogongora | 2020-08-12 18:47:54 | 29 | g18ssei | FWIW [teslausb](https: github.com marcone teslausb) supports rsync | thisisreadonly | 2020-08-12 18:57:50 | 9 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
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