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dsjm3r | CA Clean Air Rebate rule change. S X deliveries after Dec 3 are no longer eligible. No more $2500. | Starting Dec 3rd anyone who has ordered an X or S in California and not taken delivery will no longer be eligible for the $2500 clean air tax rebate. Anyone who has already taken delivery of a 2020 VIN S X may not be able to apply for the rebate anyways as the CVRP has not approved 2020 models and might not until after Dec 3. https: cleanvehiclerebate.org eng faqs what-should-i-know-about-december-3rd-program-changes A MSRP cap of $60k will be the new rule for vehicles to qualify so the 3 is not affected. (Unless it is a Performance 3 with FSD) Tesla continues to advertise the rebate as an incentive on their ordering page for CA deliveries even though they know the Dec 3 deliveries will not be met for potential X and S owners. The California service centers were made aware of the change this past weekend but as of now there is no plan to compensate. (Not sure compensate is the right word but I ll leave it) Anyways I didn t see a thread on this yet so I figured I d start one. Elon - Hi! If you are reading this can you help? Prioritize CA S X P3D with FSD deliveries. u RealPokePOP pointed out that Performance Model 3 orders with FSD that have an MSRP over $60k would also be ineligible for the rebate if delivery is taken after Dec 3. Not a reduced rebate no rebate at all. You would have to purchase FSD after taking delivery. Edit. Please understand the issue at hand is not that the rebate is going away. It was bound to happen. The issue is that Tesla is still advertising and dangling the rebate as a sales incentive for California orders they know will not be delivered until AFTER the Dec 3 deadline. | munkifist | 2019-11-06 17:32:22 | 134 | f6pqvnl | The standard rebate for EVs also drops to $2000 (down from $2500). Ouch | tracksyde | 2019-11-06 17:45:13 | 30 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
5ri34w | CA DMV Autonomy Results with Google way out ahead | Does anyone know what hardware and software configurations Tesla is using for the CA DMV autonomy program? Because: [The disengagement report would lead one to believe Google is blowing Tesla out of the water.](https: www.dmv.ca.gov portal dmv detail vr autonomous disengagement_report_2016) Here are the VINs of the vehicles: SYJXCCE48GF017708 SYJXCCE43GF017809 SYJXCAE27GF016777 SYJXCAE24GF016199 I m assumng they aren t using AP 2.0? | ThomDowting | 2017-02-01 20:44:35 | 12 | dd7ek48 | Not surprised Google has been doing this for a LONG time. They had full autonomy before AP 1.0. Tesla s big advantage is one that usually Google holds. And that is the volume of data they have. I think that is why they (Tesla) have been able to make up so much ground. Really though I would expect the poorest of performing Al s to out drive most people in the next few years. | BloodBlight | 2017-02-01 20:53:06 | 12 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
55d390 | CA DMV draft regulations prohibit advertising auto-pilot | Yesterday the CA DMV announced proposed regulations for self-driving cars https: www.dmv.ca.gov portal dmv detail pubs newsrel newsrel16 2016_31 The rules summary says Prohibits the advertisement of lower levels of automated systems where the human driver is still responsible for monitoring or control of the vehicle as “autonomous” “self-driving” or other similar terms. The rules themselves say (b) Terms such as “self-driving” “automated” **“auto-pilot”** or other statements made that are likely to induce a reasonably prudent person to believe a vehicle is autonomous as defined constitute an advertisement that the vehicle is autonomous for the purposes of this section and Vehicle Code section 11713. https: www.dmv.ca.gov portal wcm connect 211897ae-c58a-4f28-a2b7-03cbe213e51d avexpressterms_93016.pdf?MOD=AJPERES | qurun | 2016-10-01 12:57:55 | 50 | d89is79 | Sure just like advertisers use unlimited and footlong as commonly understood. | mat101010 | 2016-10-01 13:17:52 | 37 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
72qqdd | CA contemplating banning internal combustion engine vehicles. What would be the direct indirect impacts on Tesla? | [Discussion] CA is mulling ban again (estimates vary wildly 30 35 40) and Bloomberg New Energy Finance consultant notes in embedded video that even if lithium quadrupled in price it would only increase battery prices by 2% cobalt could double or triple in price but only add 10% to battery prices and that it ll likely be absorbed. CA has nearly 50% (48% from 2011 to June 2016) of all US EV plug-in sales (https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_the_United_States#California) and 10% all new car sales within the country. Given above (thus hypothetically assuming raw material issues will not be a bottleneck) *how will a CA mandate assist or hurt Tesla?* (e.g. ) Mainly looking for curious of brainstorm of ideas: e.g. - Less buyers of ZEV credits if everyone is flush with them out of necessity - Incumbents may will take profit-margin hit but will that do anything positive for Tesla? - Competitors push for bigger standardized charge infrastructure (reduces Supercharger necessity but also means Teslas will have easier access to more prevalent agnostic public charge infrastructure.) - BEV business model further buoyed by additional demand levers (e.g. EV mandates & ICE limitations from {sovereign nations state or even cities}) - Too far off for direct impact. but what would be indirect impacts. - FWIW it does accelerate the transition to renewable energy transportation (Tesla goal) and Tesla may play a funny-dance-partner of sorts for CARB (Tesla would play role of existence proof of BEV-cars (eventual) BEV semi-trucks grid-storage. - Next to no impact? High impact? Note: please note metric of impact in answer (e.g. unit volume finances innovation rate recruitment vs. attrition share-price.) As convention please mark hypothetical answers as - (A) Probable (more likely than not or plurality outcome fairly strong basis for it happening can _still_ have large uncertainty.) - (B) Plausible ( This is something you can make a reasoned argument could happen (despite lack of evidence and perhaps low probability of occurrence) - (C) Possible (Is not an impossible occurrence but no way to assess or may be very unlikely.) Or (A) Likely (B) reasonable (C) fathomable or non-impossible _____ Probable Plausible Possible spectrum adopted (http: aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com 2014 07 possible-plausible-and-probable-big.html) and is not necessarily only way the terms are used in English. I m only constraining them for more ease of differentiating between degrees of likelihood. | Esperiel | 2017-09-27 07:31:44 | 57 | dnkkiyh | Putting aside the question of whether California will indeed ban ICE cars there **are** some examples of countries announcing it such as: [Norway to completely ban petrol powered cars by 2025 ](http: www.independent.co.uk environment climate-change norway-to-ban-the-sale-of-all-fossil-fuel-based-cars-by-2025-and-replace-with-electric-vehicles-a7065616.html) (Edit: [here s the list of countries who have announced similar plans to ban limit petrol diesel cars](http: money.cnn.com 2017 07 26 autos countries-that-are-banning-gas-cars-for-electric index.html)) ... and only one year after that ~~legislation~~ plan Tesla (and EV) sales in Norway are up spectacularly: [Electric cars reach record 42% of Norway s total new car sales with boost from Tesla Model X](https: electrek.co 2017 07 04 electric-car-norway-tesla-model-x ) So keeping in mind that correlation does not necessarily imply causation my speculative prediction to the speculative question asked: yes Tesla (and other EV car makers) would benefit from California banning the sale of noisy poison emitting gas guzzlers ***big time***. Expect a well funded lobbying litigation and PR effort against any such move as California demonstrating how pleasant the EV future would look like would be a political death knell to Big Auto and Big Oil as we know it. | __Tesla__ | 2017-09-27 08:11:50 | 11 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
bscmk3 | CANADA - How long do you think the EV rebate will last | The rebate was intended to last approximately 3 years - do any of you think it could run out significantly faster than that? Such as within a year? I m assuming the Model 3 being included has increased the demand significantly. I m on the fence of purchasing in September-ish or after the winter. I hate the idea of getting a new car only to put it through winter duty immediately. For this reason I d consider waiting until May 2020 ish. Background: Recent college grad I don t want to *immediately* spend $$$ on a car although gas savings would be phenomenal. | thecanadiandriver101 | 2019-05-24 04:30:31 | 10 | eolsthm | Possibly very shortly if the Cons are elected if what happened in Ontario is any indication... | AYHP | 2019-05-24 05:29:58 | 7 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
dem6f7 | CAREFUL SUMMONING - Releasing Go To Target Did NOT Stop the Car | I think it was a matter of me coming out off the office WiFi losing connection and changing over to LTE. & #x200B The car was parked front in about 60 from me. It started backing out but it was turning the wrong way. I started walking towards it to see what was going on and I lost WiFi. The car was getting close to cars parked on the opposite side of the aisle so I let go but it kept going! & #x200B At the same time a guy walks by me and asks if the car is driving itself and I m trying to be cool knowing I that yeah it is truly driving itself and I have no control of it at this point. So say yeah isn t that normal these days? He walks away shaking his head mumbling something about demons and going to church. & #x200B Meanwhile seems the app is frozen but the car starts to correct itself and eventually gets to the target and I open the door to stop it! & #x200B In any case be careful out there. & #x200B PS I also made sure I went to church to say thank you!🙏 | fearsin | 2019-10-07 16:53:45 | 105 | f2wms1t | Was about to call BS as it s a constant keep alive connection and switching to a different connection won t really change that. But then I read that the app freezed so it might have frozen at the state at which it kept thinking that you re holding the button and continued to send a signal. This is something they should def. look into. **As a last resort when this happens close the app and go into airplane flight mode.** | PascalMrHi23 | 2019-10-07 17:00:38 | 85 | Smart Summon Limitations |
jiph1p | CAUTION with Tesla Solar Inverter | I previously documented my wild ride of a solar install [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments hde6xb my_experience_with_tesla_solar ) and my subsequent inverter problem [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments hlw4qv followup_my_solar_issues_finally_resolved ) and then it was working great until very recently with the sun moving lower in the sky. All of a sudden my power production started cutting out entirely at the [beginnings and ends of each day](https: imgur.com a tkzuZHn). Turns out this is ***another*** issue with the **Delta M4-TL-US** inverter (aside from the other issue documented in that saga linked above). If there is anything casting a shadow on ***any*** part of the solar array production is cut basically to 0. There is a very small vent on my roof that the sun now causes to cast a very small shadow on **one corner of one panel** of the entire array which causes the drops you see in the graph. This problem is [apparently not new](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads inverter-shutting-down.192862 ) and not resolved as of now. Their solution is I must wait for a firmware update from the manufacturer. That other post was started in early May of this year so I m not sure how much longer I need to wait. I called in twice and both reps said there s nothing else that can be done in the meantime. I guess I just have to deal with [4 kWh days](https: imgur.com a EakLeLe). It s crazy to me that they re still installing this inverter with all the install and general problems it has. For those of you going through an install or considering one -- **be wary of this model of inverter**. Wouldn t be surprised if this isn t the last problem I run into with it. | flyfree256 | 2020-10-26 23:02:13 | 14 | ga7tvp0 | Isn t this something only micro inverters can solve? | notsooriginal | 2020-10-26 23:10:34 | 6 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
21t8w9 | CBS adding ENGINE SOUNDS to videos shot of the Tesla Model S in the 60 min interview. What the hell happened? Check out the 0.58 mark in this video. | Check it out here if you didn t see it already. This is absolutely idiotic. http: www.cbsnews.com news tesla-and-spacex-elon-musks-industrial-empire | hallez | 2014-03-31 07:21:36 | 11 | cgggcte | if you really pay attention you can tell that it s the chase car motorcycle that s making the noise. | roj2323 | 2014-03-31 14:49:36 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
f0vjfi | CCS adapter for North America | Has Tesla or Elon ever addressed this issue? With more and more charging networks popping up all over the place and Superchargers are seeing longer and longer wait times in some areas think we need CCS now more than ever. That article on Model S vs Porsche highlights this exact issue and it would be really nice while road tripping to have other DC options. | DWAY22 | 2020-02-08 18:30:19 | 205 | fgz2vhk | I don t get it. They made a CHAdeMO adapter when there were far fewer stations that it could be used with. CCS has clearly won the standards war now. It s long last time for an adapter. | mikeash | 2020-02-08 19:28:17 | 56 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
be7juw | CCS or CHAdeMO for Model 3? | Ok guys and gals. What do we need to do to show a need demand for some sort of CCS or CHAdeMO adapter in the US for the Model 3? I feel like i don t see this issue addressed often if at all and I can t think of the last time anyone at Tesla has even mentioned it. Hell I d pay just to have the european charge port installed on my car as it does both CCS and Tesla charging. I know it isn t a big deal for most people and it usually isn t for me either. But I have a lengthy trip coming up for Easter to the rural MidWest. In a packed day I don t have time to stop at a NEMA plug (which is considerably out of the way). The local WalMart where I m going has several EV charging stations. They have both CCS and CHAdeMO so it is pretty frustrating when I have to keep explaining to friends and family why I can t use them without actually having an answer. I can t be the only one that wants this. I feel like the people with the most influence on twitter that could maybe get Elon Tesla s attention don t suffer from this problem because they live in CA for the most part. Is there anyone here within the Sub that we could ask to raise this question to Elon or Tesla? Thoughts? & #x200B Edit: I Tweeted @Elon Musk and @Tesla link below if you want to just retweet and see if we can get this noticed. https: twitter.com KiloDoubleMike status 1118501854030258182 | KiloDoubleMike | 2019-04-17 13:03:39 | 27 | el3kbbn | Getting the euro charge port would be very bad: & #x200B 1) No superchager access 2) No J1772 access 3) No Destination charger access. 4) ? No CCS access ? ( I believe the Euro CCS port is different as well ) | swanny101 | 2019-04-17 13:17:32 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7iqhrk | CEO of Aston Martin: For me Tesla is a very credible competitor in the premium market against Daimler BMW Audi and the others. | [Comments from Car & Drivers 2019 Aston Martin RapidE EV Prototype Drive ](https: www.caranddriver.com reviews 2019-aston-martin-rapide-electric-sedan-driven-review) Full quote: > “**For me Tesla is a very credible competitor in the premium market against Daimler BMW Audi and the others**. But they re not in the [upper reaches of the] luxury market where we are ” Palmer explained. “**Most of the people who buy a Model S are buying it fully loaded**. They re not limited by their cash they re limited by the offer. They re not a competitor of ours. We re looking to those people looking for something above Tesla. That customer probably isn t looking for Ludicrous mode. Our offer will have very credible acceleration equal to a gasoline Aston Martin but you ll be able to drive the car rapidly all the way around the Nürburgring without it derating or conking out on you.” Notably earlier in the interview he admitted ...like most of the industry we know nothing about how electric cars will be used with our customer group. | ikjadoon | 2017-12-10 00:11:20 | 242 | dr0oty9 | When you re so fancy that even your prototypes call for only the most premium of [emergency stop buttons](http: i.imgur.com 3wU93fw.jpg). | afishinacloud | 2017-12-10 00:56:52 | 39 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
7pi3p2 | CES 2018 - MobileEye | Two videos released by MobileEye * [Responsibility-Sensitive Safety model](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=eQ_uGvHlLr4) * [CES 2018 Press Conference](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=GQ15HWCw_Ic) It will be interesting to see how Tesla and others discuss their approach to autonomous driving as we move closer to government approval. | ochong | 2018-01-10 19:42:04 | 65 | dshfbvj | Government approval is not the main issue otherwise Tesla could already offer level 3 in Germany. | Vik1ng | 2018-01-10 19:57:43 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
frupb4 | CHAdeMO Adapter back in stock! Bought mine... | https: shop.tesla.com product chademo-adapter | Sandeep94536 | 2020-03-30 17:07:34 | 28 | flxwmyb | Give me a CCS adapter! | courtlandre | 2020-03-30 18:00:21 | 35 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bwixyb | CHAdeMO Adapter on Tesla Store Now Shows Support for Model 3 | One of the Facebook groups I follow pointed out that the CHAdeMO adapter s page now says that it supports the S X and 3 now! It looks like with the wireless phone charger and now this Tesla is updating their accessories for all their cars now. ~~It still doesn t show on the Model 3 charging accessories page but I m guessing that s just an oversight or wishful thinking.~~ Anyone with a CHAdeMO adapter willing to test to see if theirs works on a Model 3 now? Perhaps one of the later updates added support for CHAdeMO without telling anyone. Now all they need to do is make a CCS adapter... & #x200B EDIT: Well party s over. Tesla changed it back to Not Compatible with Model 3 but still shows up on the charging accessories page. Looks like things are still in flux. | peachfuzz0 | 2019-06-04 01:38:53 | 31 | epyjr0w | I want a CCS adapter. | workrelatedstuffs | 2019-06-04 09:01:27 | 19 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
flbp1d | CHAdeMO adapter back in stock! | Just got the email and picked mine up finally. Who knows how many minutes they ll last this time! Now I ll be ready to charge anywhere while I shelter in place! | g0daig0daig0dai | 2020-03-19 15:17:53 | 33 | fkxwb8u | Obligatory where s the CCS adaptor Tesla? comment. | Rev-777 | 2020-03-19 16:51:11 | 23 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
52na2a | CHEAP Tesla rental | My wife just found a really great flight deal to either Norway or Denmark. We ended up going with Norway partially because I know how Tesla friendly the country is. So I start googling Tesla Rentals in Norway and Hertz offers it through the prestige collection. I booked it for 3 days Friday to Monday. The total cost was 2022NOK which is approximately 245USD. For 3 days all taxes and fees included besides optional insurance. I m super excited as a Model 3 reservation holder and as someone who s on the fence about pulling the trigger on an S. I m assuming a 3 day test drive will push me towards getting an S now. The website shows a picture of a refreshed white Model S hoping that I actually do end up with a refreshed but more so hoping that it s equipped with autopilot. Either way I m sure it will be a great experience. | mustinjurphy | 2016-09-13 22:16:47 | 12 | d7lq9fi | You re doomed. 3 days in an S. Might as well go to the Design Studio now. ) Have fun! | purestevil | 2016-09-13 23:47:45 | 16 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
9dzaxx | CNBC HATES TESLA! | I have never ever seen so many attempts to propagate misinformation and conjecture as I saw today on CNBC and tonight on their internet-based news feed. The latest complete pile of steaming crap they are propagating tonight is a narrative around the U.S. Air Force investigating Musk for smoking pot on Joe Rogan s podcast last night. This has been quickly debunked by people actually getting in touch and checking facts with the air force which seems a lost art in the CNBC newsroom. Those of us that actually watched the whole podcast heard him say moments after that he doesn t smoke pot generally speaking at all because he likes to be productive. Well that s a big time DUH! The rest of CNBC s on-screen time today was spent bringing people on to further their narrative that because he took 2 puffs of a doobie that he s a habitual drug user and that he is un-fit to be CEO. As several analysts rightly pointed out to the CNBC on-air talent the only thing that really matters is: How many Model 3s did Tesla deliver in Q3 and are they now profitable? Again a BIG time duh! Finally they tried multiple times today to convince viewers that because several executives have left the company in the last 6 months (and several in the last month) that somehow the company is falling apart and Musk is to blame. Every time I see this kind of complete trash journalism I have to sit back and just laugh out loud! I have always regarded CNBC as a reliable source of fact-based narrative but their complete lack of substantive facts around Tesla has become nearly comical lately and for me really called into question the reliability of their reporting in general on other companies and the markets as well. I think all of this will blow over and will be rendered inert when Tesla reports a record Q3 next month and reports it s first of many future quarters of profitability! | Teslaorvette | 2018-09-07 22:40:26 | 230 | e5l0kaz | Those of us that follow Tesla closely already know that much of the media is inaccurate to put it nicely. Now consider that level of accuracy with every other topic that media likes to frequently discuss. | DrumhellerRAW | 2018-09-07 22:58:41 | 95 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
ae1qsc | CNBC Success: Tesla s Model 3 was the best-selling luxury car of 2018 | I am not a Tesla-owner but never thought it will rise to this level of prestige this quick. [https: www.cnbc.com 2019 01 08 teslas-model-3-was-2018s-best-selling-luxury-car-in-us.html](https: www.cnbc.com 2019 01 08 teslas-model-3-was-2018s-best-selling-luxury-car-in-us.html?__source=newsletter%7Ceveningbrief) | markyu007 | 2019-01-09 01:47:15 | 141 | edlr1xh | Very interested to see how the numbers will change with a significant portion of cars heading overseas. | ABigFalconRocket | 2019-01-09 01:55:05 | 13 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
8up3fw | CNBC article complains about the $2500 down payment on Tesla orders. Calls it a quarter-end tactic | Reposting because I don t want to drive more clicks there and deleted the link. Media is getting ridiculous with these nonsense postings. FWIW I ve always seen new build to order cars from any (esp luxury) car company ask for a down payment it s nothing out of the ordinary. | ChromeDome5 | 2018-06-29 01:10:24 | 80 | e1h3gxj | If Wall Street requires results as of arbitrary deadlines then this is how companys will respond. Why let the Street punish them next week for something that would normally happen gradually over time when they can make a major demonstration of the demand for the cars and solve part of their cash crunch issue at the same time. They can call it a tactic or whatever they want but having thousands of people locking in firm commitments for $50-70k cars is hard to argue against. | NoVA_traveler | 2018-06-29 01:35:12 | 65 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
kby2ry | CNBC reporting model S X lines shutting down for 18 days - maybe this means there s a refresh? | [Here s the report](https: www.cnbc.com 2020 12 12 tesla-model-s-and-x-production-will-shut-down-for-18-days-email.html) - it looks like they re shutting down over the holidays and then some more. With the people posting saying that sales advisors have been telling them there will be a 3-4 month delay in model S X orders it seems like this has been coming for a while. With the recent news about how they need to increase production to hit demand this seems odd unless there s an underlying reason. Employees can work with other teams do deliveries or use PTO to get paid for the down time from the article. Interesting. | Xaxxon | 2020-12-12 22:06:09 | 277 | gflfwtl | Refresh imminent. They ve already completed production for Q4 and with the typical Q1 drop in demand this is a perfect opportunity to make changes upgrades to the production lines. | TeslaJake | 2020-12-12 22:13:57 | 189 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
5y9kt9 | CNBC will have an exclusive interview withTesla CTO JB Straubel at 4:30 PM. | https: twitter.com CNBCClosingBell status 839540700479893504 | dirtyfries | 2017-03-08 18:19:35 | 53 | deo93ao | Wow... More interesting why is JB doing this? He usually doesn t go do media events.. 1) capital raise coming? 2) getting us used to JB as Elon s replacement? | john_atx | 2017-03-08 18:47:55 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
sihcl8 | CNN making it sound like Tesla is recalling FSD in its entirety.. | https: www.cnn.com 2022 02 01 cars tesla-fsd-stop-sign index.html Recalling a functionality within FSD is very different than completely disabling FSD in all beta vehicles. | tdason444 | 2022-02-02 06:11:48 | 186 | hv9nm1d | CNN makes millions from ICE advertising. | ironinside | 2022-02-02 12:30:49 | 73 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
bsaj5f | CONFIRMED! 2019.16.2 25% Top Speed Increase!! | Finally!! Easy Entry got significantly faster with 16.2!! I m a tall dude so I have my Easy Entry set to make some serious adjustments to the seat and wheel. I took a drive immediately after the update and noticed a surprising difference in both the speed and motor pitch! | Cr0uchPotato | 2019-05-24 00:42:55 | 27 | eokzqdb | solid clickbait good work | pazdan | 2019-05-24 02:10:34 | 82 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
vting2 | CONFIRMED: Running the heat for at least an hour solves the problem of air conditioning smelling bad for many people. | Like many other Tesla owners I ve been having problems with a sharp musty smell coming from my ventilation system over the summer. Two summers ago I paid Tesla to both change my cabin air filters and clean the A C coils which worked well. This summer the smell came back presumably due to bacteria growing on damp coils. I decided to do an experiment and run the heat in my car for 4 hours to see if that would completely dry out the coils kill the bacteria and eliminate the smell. It worked! I talked to a Tesla mobile tech today and he said lots of his customers are doing the same thing and having success. He suggested doing it while plugged in (if possible) and he mentioned that other people are setting their cars to do it overnight using the schedule feature. He also said that most people are reporting that one hour of heat on high temperature is all we need. For those who prefer to have Tesla replace their filters and clean the coils we can now request that service through the mobile app. It is $140 which includes half an hour of labor and a can of one-time-use spray foam that the tech sprays onto the coils and lets sit for 10+ minutes. The foam then evaporates and leaves an anti-microbial coating. EDIT: When I did this I put the temperature on the highest setting set the fan halfway (on manual) opened the windows and put the car in keep mode. I did not need to leave a door ajar or put anything on the front seat to trick the car into thinking I was there. I have a 2019 M3 | the_y_of_the_tiger | 2022-07-07 13:24:03 | 898 | if7zfp5 | Awesome will definitely try next time the smell comes back. I ve done 2-3 filter changes and coil cleanses and am getting sick of it. Also a really embarrassing problem if you have passengers that have to be subjected to the awful smell. If it s a proven solution it would be cool if they made a button in the Service menu HVAC Self-Clean or something that does it automatically. Kind of like ovens that have a self-cleaning mode that takes a few hours. Edit: also **can you confirm exact settings?** Auto or manual mode? Max heat? Fan speed (if manual)? Recirc on off? AC on off? Rear vent on off? etc. | TheJadedSF | 2022-07-07 16:00:24 | 159 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6hiyng | CPO 2013 vs 2014 | With all the new CPOs hitting the market my mind is telling me to only look for a 2014 and up but I m not sure why. With that said the lower mileage 2013s are a lot cheaper than the 2014s and that price also potentially gives me an option for a 2013 P85. Is there any real difference between the 2013 and the 2014? I know some of the earlier models had quality issues and I have some concern there. Should I be concerned about getting a 3 or 4 year old car when I ll be getting a model 3 (if i don t get an S) later this year*^hopefully. Any advice is helpful thanks. | Gootch03 | 2017-06-15 23:59:32 | 20 | diypkyq | The big difference is that in October 2014 they started shipping with Autopilot cameras. Other than that keep in mind that model years in the world of Tesla are not like model years for every other car manufacturer. Tesla rolls out updates nonstop so don t think 2013 vs. 2014 think about which features you care about - Autopilot folding mirrors rear doors that open wider etc. Here s the full list of every change made to the car you ll see that every month things changed as small as rear doors open wider - https: sites.google.com site teslamotorsclubwiki home model-s options-by-year I ve got a very very early 2013 and 100% of my issues have been fixed by the bumper-to-bumper service so you have nothing to worry about. Read this that I recently wrote on the subject: https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 6fokpn wanting_to_buy_2013_model_s_85_kwh_battery_any dijvifz Literally my only regret is that I didn t get an 85. For road trips it would allow me to not have to fully charge making them a lot faster (keep in mind that the last 10% of charge takes a LONG time). Lastly - since you think you re going to only keep a car for a few years then depreciation should matter to you: the older it is the lower the rate of depreciation. So you ll lose less selling a 2013 in three years than you would selling a 2014 in three years. | NomNomNews | 2017-06-16 00:26:28 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6tg8jr | CPO 2015 Tesla S 70 vs new 2017 Tesla S 75 | Hey all I m an impatient Model 3 depositor looking to make the switch to the S. With the referral and price cut of the New S series that is very appealing. I care about autopilot range speed value and reliability. My options are: 2017 Tesla S 75 for $74 500 before EV credits [$64 500] (AP2.0 free super-charging lifetime warranty 4.2 sec 0-60) Or 2015 10 000 mile CPO 2015 Tesla S 70 for $56 000 (AP1.0 free supercharging 230 range 5.5 second 0-60) I can t super ball out so I m looking for the best overall value in terms of quality for the price depreciation and reliability. Thanks! | eskimobroski | 2017-08-13 17:00:30 | 12 | dlkewml | New and use a referral code | clone-phoon | 2017-08-13 17:11:45 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
70gv6c | CPO 90Ds are now 286 range epa | Was there a change in the way range is measured? Because 90Ds were always 294 before. And if I search 90D on google it still says it s 294 mile range. | BlueManifest | 2017-09-16 13:26:46 | 29 | dn31v7s | I agree. It should be 294 miles. However to be clear it wasn t always 294 miles. In 2015 when Tesla released the 90D they didn t have time to do the EPA tests. Instead of waiting they released the car with 85D s 270 mi rated range. You can see this number [here](http: www.fueleconomy.gov feg Find.do?action=sbs& id=36786). Both the 85D and the 90D had 270 mi range for a while. That was the number on Tesla s website. Then in early 2016 Tesla estimated that 90D would have 288 mi EPA rated range. They started advertising this number. You can see a screenshot [here](http: i.imgur.com n7kJAE1.gif). Then the EPA test scores came in at 294 miles. This 294 mi number applied to previously sold 90D s as well because there was no hardware change. 286 mi appears to be an error. By the way check out the table [here](https: i.imgur.com 2B23fIf.gif) if you want to compare the realistic range numbers. | Teslike | 2017-09-16 14:21:51 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
btq4hr | CPO | Considering looking into a cpo. Does anyone have good experience or a rep they have worked with? From what I gathered you can t really look at the car until delivery. How do you make sure there aren t any scratches or extra wear and tear. Any info would be appreciated ! | M1tt1 | 2019-05-27 19:20:45 | 11 | ep1d9vo | Just got a cpo MS. Yea you dont get to see the car before you purchase. You pay then you get to see the car. Kinda nerve wrecking but i must have lucked out. Car was in good condition. | Darkcrash21 | 2019-05-27 20:08:37 | 5 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7jrrgj | CPO Delivery Experience | In fairness to Tesla I wanted to follow up on my post a few days ago when no one knew where my car was (or at least weren t telling me). https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 7j32a5 really_hoping_to_hear_from_my_cpo The car was located a few hours after that post. Within 30 minutes my MyTesla account had updated to show my payment options. I got that done and showed a 0 balance. Yesterday at noon I drove my trade-in to the Service Center in Dedham MA. I got there a few minutes early so I sat in the waiting area. I talked to a nice older couple who were having their 90D serviced for a road trip to Maryland. They could tell I was picking up by the smile on my face (and maybe because I was holding my trade-in title).... At noon the Delivery Specialist called me over and we walked to the 2 delivery bays they have set up. My car was immaculate and ready to go. While my DS made sure the insurance and registration paperwork was all good he gave me the keys and I started pairing my phone changing settings moving my XM account to the new radio etc. Within 10 minutes my paperwork had cleared and he moved my plates over (I have Veteran plates...didn t want EV plates.) He showed me how to use the UMC. (I have a HPWC at home so I won t need the UMC often.) And that was pretty much it (because I ve been a fanboy forever I didn t have that many questions). The whole experience from pulling in in my Audi and leaving in my Tesla took just under an hour. The showroom was beautiful the lot was full the coffee was good everyone was in a great mood and everything was hassle-free. So after the CPO Advisor being slightly aloof....my experience picking the car up was great. (also on a note about the car I lucked out: I got the Michelin Primacy all-season tires on it. And my windshield doesn t have the coating earlier S s did so my EZ Pass and radar detector work fine). Loving the car so far! was great to sit in a 70F cabin this morning when it was 20F outside. | SomeGubmintGuy | 2017-12-14 14:06:16 | 60 | dr8n0eu | Congrats! Welcome to the EV club. | livetorideridetowood | 2017-12-14 14:25:51 | 13 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6u9yyu | CPO Hunt: How current is the official online inventory or a tool like Teslainventory.com? | I ve anecdotally heard that the best deals are had directly through an internal search by your local Tesla store and those are subsequently snatched up before they even appear online. Is this actually the case? Follow-up what kind of deals are you guys getting on CPO s? What can one get for sub-50k? | thiskillstheredditor | 2017-08-17 13:32:14 | 22 | dlr13n9 | Depends on the tool. I m pretty sure ev-cpo.com scrapes every hour and more often if you subscribe... Not sure on teslainventory.com. I have also heard that the store staff have access to see some cars that aren t listed on Tesla s CPO site yet so they will not be picked up by any of the online tools. Might be worth checking with a store if you re seriously interested. | BlackOrb | 2017-08-17 13:44:47 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
43rmr5 | CPO MS are flying off the shelf! | Been tracking since last year and it looks like since Tesla s e-mail mentioning CPO MS for less than 50k (Some news outlets online mentioned it too) these babies have just been flying off the shelf! I guess the chances for a less than 40k CPO MS just won t happen this year :(. | Minivan2016 | 2016-02-02 00:37:36 | 14 | czkoz4a | My 05 2013 S60 with 62k miles (so far) will go on the block later this year when I get my X. Not expecting close to $50k. Just keep waiting of you want a $40k S. It will happen. | jeffAA | 2016-02-02 05:20:02 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5nfd4p | CPO Model S listings | I ve been looking at CPO listings since the beginning of December and there were dozens being posted every single day. It got up to nearly 700 Model S s in the United States toward the end of December. Now it s around 400 and almost nothing has been listed since January 1. Anyone have insight on to why this might be? | jimmydugan43 | 2017-01-11 22:34:16 | 15 | dcb1ugv | My guess is that many Tesla early adopters are obscenely rich and they upgraded to AP2 cars all at once. They had little concern about maximizing resale value. They flooded the market all at once with lightly used CPO. Interested to hear other people s theories. | moneyfink | 2017-01-11 22:41:20 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4yd5ou | CPO Model S now in the low 40k s | Our friends at https: ev-cpo.com now show a listing for a S60 that is $42.5k https: www.tesla.com preowned 5yjsa1cg9dfp13121?redirect=no Granted it doesn t even have the tech package but it s still exciting to see how low the CPOs can go. | JF0909 | 2016-08-18 16:18:42 | 24 | d6mriab | If the S with Autopilot V1 drops to the mid to low 40K range I m going to have a hard time keeping my model 3 reservation. | D-egg-O | 2016-08-18 16:22:21 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
g97il8 | CPO Model X Performance v Standard D | So I m in the market for used Model X. I don t particularly care for the performance model but it seems they are going for about the same as the standard versions (2016 models) . I want a long lasting car over performance. I ve heard the performance 22 inch wheel also wear and tear easier and have less range. Should I just go for the standard model? | urmomsmomsmom2 | 2020-04-27 19:27:07 | 10 | forpdbc | Performance doesn t have to have the 22 wheels but the 22 wheels do cut down range. | majesticjg | 2020-04-27 19:35:58 | 5 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
ali0a4 | CPO inventory shifting to HomeNet Automotive | I haven t seen this mentioned previously on the sub so I figured I would post today. I submitted a few picture requests today and instead of Dropbox links I received URLs in the format of: https: backwebs.homenetinc.com tesla details @ XXXXXVINXXXXX At the end of that URL I popped some VINs of cars that were listed as CPO but I did not previously request. The site loaded everything up no problem. At first glance it looks like CPO inventory is now managed by something that isn t a pile of trash (human with Dropbox shares). Hoping that EV-CPO and other sites can take advantage of this. | eponerine | 2019-01-30 21:54:28 | 35 | efeac0m | I thought they don t have a CPO program anymore. | qbpds75 | 2019-01-30 22:41:46 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5xeoj9 | CPO question: where are the non-performance dual motors? | I ve been looking over the CPO listings and I see a ton of P85Ds. Personally I m not interested in the P and would rather get a plain dual motor for a lower price. There are plenty of P85Ds (with lots of options) in the 80k range. Makes me wonder what the non-performance equivalent would go for. I assume it s a timing thing. Were the dual motors initially only available as performance? Therefore the non-P duals just haven t hit the CPO market yet? If that s true how long before we start seeing them? | byrans | 2017-03-04 02:26:33 | 10 | dehjfmf | > Were the dual motors initially only available as performance? Yes I think the P85Ds started to ship slightly earlier than the 85Ds. But we re talking about almost two years ago at this point and the difference was maybe a few weeks. I wonder if perhaps it s simply P85D owners simply trading up where 85D owners are hanging onto their cars. P90D and P100D offered non-trivial upgrades over the P85D the people that buy a P85D I guess are more willing to eat thousands of dollars on the upgrade cost than the people that settled for an 85D. Tesla one-ups themselves so quickly if you want the fastest then you re going to be upgrading frequently.. | protomech | 2017-03-04 03:23:17 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3ofp3a | CPO scheme now available in the uk | This must have appeared recently hadn t noticed it before. http: www.teslamotors.com en_GB models preowned | rosinchard | 2015-10-12 10:14:24 | 11 | cvwwvsb | I hate how you guys use the word scheme. I totally understand it but it has an extremely negative connotation in American English. | garthreddit | 2015-10-12 14:13:20 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
95x7qz | CPOHunter Bargain Alert- 85D w full 4 year warranty for less than many 85 s | Hi all CPOHunter here. Although I generally limit my posts to CPO related news every so often a car comes out at a remarkably low price that I feel is worth calling out. The car in question is an 85D with Autopilot (AP1) and the full 4 year warranty. While not fully loaded it does have the highly desirable next-gen seats pano roof and sub-zero package. Currently offered at $52 300. If sold at this price it would be the 5th cheapest 85D ever sold in the 4 year warranty category This car is priced lower than several currently offered RWD 60 s with no autopilot. If you want autopilot AWD and a bigger battery this is the best deal we ve seen in a while. https: www.tesla.com used 5YJSA1H25FF091679?redirect=no -CPO Hunter Edit: sold as of 5pm EST. | TeslaCpoHunter | 2018-08-09 15:05:26 | 44 | e3w3uuv | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND ITS GONE! edit: no its still there! | blame_the_new_guy | 2018-08-09 15:25:08 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6u2cpr | CSS Adjustments Thread | Hey everyone. I haven t made any large CSS adjustments lately though I make minor ones to the sidebar at times and I am testing user flair stuff for the moment. **Wanted to just reach out and ask if anyone had any suggestions requests bugs to note etc.** I know folks who use RES have issues at times in relation to night mode but I have recommended to whitelist the sub and use https: nm.reddit.com r teslamotors. I can add RES night-mode support back in but I ll have to do some code cleanup first before I do that. I have only gotten messages from a couple folks (literally only 2) about RES + nightmode so at the moment it s low on the list. **You may have noticed these couple small adjustments:** - Text area background image with Rules (that disappears when you click inside) - Removed pop-up for the Reply button in comments - Removed downvote arrows on comment pages (this is to deter downvoting). Does not affect mobile. And you can still downvote but you need to hover over it. It s mainly so people stop complaining about being mass-downvoted as if we can control people. - User Flair adjustments (just a trial period for now) - Night-mode UI fixes here and there - Red border save and cancel buttons to match the theme - Sidebar menus to consolidate information **Neat facts:** - The blue on sticky threads matches the vehicles UI - Voting arrows are tilted L s in the logo -> [](#l) - We didn t used to have a sidebar image (I took note of some r Naut features) - The sub s subscriber count has doubled in the past year - Weekly threads didn t used to exist a year ago - Discord chat is still relatively new (created by Hewber after r place happened) - There s a lounge but we re quiet about it ) **Edit**: ... come on I need a challenge. **Edit 2**: Now I m not happy with the sidebar... grr **Edit 3**: Playing with some fonts... it matches the primary fonts on Tesla.com -- curious of your thoughts. **Edit 4**: Adjusted the fonts fixed stuff with the sidebar much happier now. | 110110 | 2017-08-16 14:22:30 | 40 | dlpcbrk | For fun I looked up how the site looked like in 2013 just wanted to say thank you! https: web.archive.org web 20130628234235 https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors | thisiswhatidonow | 2017-08-16 14:33:04 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
532s9b | CSS Adjustments and Fixes are coming -- Share your thoughts and suggestions! | Hey r TeslaMotors! As a new mod (and my first announcement) I ve been hard at work (seriously) with a number of items while trying to stay within my new boundaries. **Here are some things that have changed already hold on tight** - New header image. I call him SuperSnoo. - Footer alignment fixes (bit more centered) - Footer text color adjustments to match Tesla Red - Sidebar Adjustments (removal of filler box text to shorten the sidebar) text adjustments and some removal of stale information and alignment of our [](#tesla) icons (**in all text and sidebar**) and added new information. - Creation of Rule #5 (nothing that wasn t somewhat known before but it s now stated so when items are removed a justification can be given for future reference.) - Complete rebuild of the Wiki (with sub pages and structure). We now have a general [Overview](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) page. A [FAQ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki faq) separated by Model 3 and General and an [Accessories](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories) page that will get built over time within reason (~25-30 accessories max haven t decided). There is also a [Did You Know](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki create didyouknow) section that I plan to fill with neat Tesla facts that are great for sharing and finally a [Useful Sites](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki create usefulsites) (linked on the sidebar too) for pages that are often shared throughout the community that are just great for learning whether you re an owner or not. I expect the Wiki to grow even more and would like it to make it more prevalent specifically for us. There s already Wikipedia and I don t intend to have two of the same thing. The reason for expanding the Wiki is so that people post less for questions that are asked extremely often. - Fixed Alignment of the Submit page (so you don t have to scroll way down anymore to submit) - Creation of Rule #4 in the Submit page stating that your Model 3 Thank you gift post will likely be removed. And to search if you ve never seen it before. With more than 300k reservations this is a necessary thing (Sorry!) - AutoMod is now functional and working has been used already and will grow over time. - Search bar enhancements (use it!) **Things that have been successfully tested** (but not implemented yet because the Mods will discuss) - Post Link Flair (Tesla Energy Model S Model 3 Model X Roadster Delivery Day) and text color-coded. - Tesla Red Upvote Arrows - Simplified Submit Link Text buttons that also implement the theme. - Not CSS specific but considerations on a post-discussion thread on after announcement threads and new default comment sorting (by new) - Decided one Pre Active announcement post sorted as new and then one Post discussion thread (no sort) will be implemented. At the moment this is all I can think of. I m sure I m missing something. My goal is to keep it simple clean but ensure a common theme. Just wanted to thank the Mods again for the opportunity to make the community grow and be strong and a personal thank you to everyone here who is supportive of Tesla and their mission of not only transitioning the world to EVs but to doing the right thing even if it s the hard choice such as with AutoPilot and dealing with the media. **Discuss Comment Suggest!** *Note: Suggestions will be taken into consideration and nothing is a guarantee. We ll discuss the ideas and thoughts and work through them. All potential changes will be incremental.* | 110110 | 2016-09-16 16:37:38 | 56 | d7pfylu | I d suggest we change our alien blue mascot to resemble a supercharger stall. What do you think? edit: Holy smokes you actually did it! Thanks u 110110 I like it. I may work on exactly what I had in mind and send to you later...I hope you don t mind :-D | D-egg-O | 2016-09-16 16:53:05 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5jk9pb | CSS Fixes Adjustments | Hi all [Here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5jf3wh more_sub_enhancements_today_for_viewing_on ) is my post from yesterday mentioning the things that I ve changed recently. I made some more adjustments as of yesterday (RES alignment hover warnings score colors comment shadow adjustments and thinning out the sidebar shadow). Was wondering if you see any bugs if you could just comment and then let me know what browser you re using and on what platform. And if you use RES and or Nightmode. I ll try to create another list of fixes for you because I want every method to look great. I updated the mobile icon also. As always open to suggestions if they aren t super genius level 3 crazy. Thanks everyone! Edit: Anyone know the two fonts from Tesla s main page? One being Longest Range Electric Vehicle and ORDER YOURS . Firefox is limited where I am so I can t even inspect! Edit 2: I ll be changing the user flair icons to the Tesla used font (Gothic Medium) in all caps. Will take a couple days to make the time. **Edit 3**: Messed up the flair in my attempt to make it a little darker grr (12 23 evening). Will be fixing don t worry. | 110110 | 2016-12-21 14:50:17 | 20 | dbh8oxx | Great work post left border is killer! Longest Range Electric Vehicle is Gotham Light and ORDER YOURS is Gotham Medium | petrosh | 2016-12-21 20:50:01 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8d5ou3 | CT Bill to Allow Tesla Sales Passes Finance Committee Vote 32-19 | Details of who voted https: www.cga.ct.gov 2018 TS h 2018HB-05310-R00FIN-CV107-TS.htm It previously passed the transportation committee on 3 23. The bill now has to be scheduled for a vote by the full CT house senate. The state legislature s last day this year is 5 9. For context the bills the previous 3 years also passed the transportation vote and the finance committee but never passed both the full senate and house. There was one year it did pass the house (2015). 2015: 26-5 for TRA no FIN vote Full House 116-32 https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=HB06682& which_year=2015 2016: voice vote for TRA 32-14 in FIN https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=00003& which_year=2016 2017: 25-10 in TRA 25-20 in FIN https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=HB07097& which_year=2017 | Athabascad | 2018-04-18 13:41:13 | 714 | dxkgnd6 | great links but to help some other people out who dont understand you might do an ELI5 version. Just saying for a friend... | Fuzzyballz24 | 2018-04-18 14:08:55 | 51 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
87ay2v | CT Bill to Allow Tesla Sales Passes Transportation Committee Vote 25-11 | Details of who voted https: www.cga.ct.gov 2018 TS h 2018HB-05310-R00TRA-CV9-TS.htm I believe it has one more committee (finance) to go through before a possible vote by the house senate. For context the bills the previous 3 years also passed the transportation vote and even the finance committee but never passed both the full senate and house. Edit: There was one year it did pass the house (2015). | Athabascad | 2018-03-26 17:29:23 | 173 | dwbga61 | Thanks for keeping on top of this | adamhuet | 2018-03-26 17:30:41 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5vtbcd | CT Tesla Bill - State Senator John Kissel | I have reached out to my state senator about his intention to support the Tesla bill. Last year the bill passed the House but died in the Senate. For this reason I have focused on my State senator for contact. This is his reply Adam Senator Kissel does not currently support the Tesla bill as written. He believes it is unfair to other car dealers. However he has been in discussions with proponents and advocates for the bill. As it is only February the language of the bill could change significantly before it comes for a vote. As such we will monitoring it as it moves through the process. Kate McAvoy Legislative Aide Office of Senator John A. Kissel p. (860) 240 0531 f. (860) 240 0196 e. [email protected] www.senatorkissel.com When asked what changes he would have to see to support it. This is the reply that I have received Adam I ll share your thoughts with Senator Kissel. I do not have a detailed answer for you regarding changes as he does not sit on the committee of cognizance. To date this session your emails are are the only ones we have received in support of the bill. As you can see if you want to see these bills advance you HAVE to reach out and voice your opinion. Otherwise there is no incentive for the representatives to vote against their financial interests. | aanderson81 | 2017-02-23 21:40:01 | 103 | de4q5fx | > unfair to other car dealers Yeah just like it s unfair that anyone else can open an identical business to mine directly across the street from mine. These dealership protection laws need to die. | Dr_Pippin | 2017-02-23 22:12:14 | 37 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8ihgs9 | CT Tesla Bill Fails to get Voted on for 4th year in a row | Final 2018 Update: The CT legislative session ended yesterday (5 9) at midnight without a vote on HB5310 to allow Tesla to sell cars in CT. Maybe next year... 2015: 26-5 for TRA no FIN vote Full House 116-32 No vote in senate https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=HB06682& which_year=2015 2016: voice vote for TRA 32-14 in FIN no senate house votes https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=00003& which_year=2016 2017: 25-10 in TRA 25-20 in FIN no senate house votes https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=HB07097& which_year=2017 2018: 25-11 in TRA 32-19 in FIN no senate house votes https: www.cga.ct.gov asp cgabillstatus cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill& bill_num=HB-5310 | Athabascad | 2018-05-10 19:17:45 | 61 | dyrstz9 | Yay protectionism. | digriz602 | 2018-05-10 19:47:47 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
mvfphp | CT getting a new showroom service center in East Hartford | [https: www.courant.com business hc-biz-tesla-east-hartford-20210419-sgj6sfflbzeotaljhtx4nknpli-story.html](https: www.courant.com business hc-biz-tesla-east-hartford-20210419-sgj6sfflbzeotaljhtx4nknpli-story.html) Will enjoy not having to go to Milford if needed... | OldSchoolAF | 2021-04-21 13:30:01 | 30 | gvd1zwr | The entire auto dealership association in CT can suck it frankly | billknowsbest | 2021-04-21 19:55:10 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dz3plj | CYBRTRCK unveiling event participation? | Hi! I came from a less developed european country now as I m in LA probably this is as close as I can get to a Tesla. Heard the reveal event for the pickup will happen tomorrow. Is it open to the public? I really wish to see it myself before I fly back as it might be my only visit. | zsakosbilbo | 2019-11-20 15:38:42 | 36 | f85aup0 | It is a highly sought after event that is invite only and was full within minutes of the invites being sent out. You have to refer many vehicles to even get invited Sorry but you have virtually no chance of getting in there | Luso7 | 2019-11-20 17:35:36 | 73 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
25s61s | Cab drivers: what does Tesla need to make a car that can dominate your market? | Mileage price... | booomhorses | 2014-05-17 09:44:32 | 14 | chk9pmq | The base spec black cabs in London are around £32k $54k USD from what this article from The Telegraph says the average millage is 200 day. http: www.london-taxis.co.uk jsp index.jsp?lnk=710& id=60 MPG is around 30mpg and of course stop start driving isn t helping. This is around £22 100miles. Electricity is about £2.20 100miles. I guess a similar car in size shape with a price of £50k would make this relatively cost neutral (without doing the detailed match). If this is in a limited company there s additional benefits of offsetting of tax that can make further benefit. I have been looking at the maths for my current Landrover v s Model S - a £70-80k Tesla has a better NPV than my current car starting from today. | goobervision | 2014-05-17 13:09:20 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
hi2u9u | Cabin Cam- You cannot anonymize your face or those of your passengers. | I m interested to see what others are doing about the option to activate the Cabin Camera. I chose not to do so at this time even though I allow both of the other methods Tesla collects data from the vehicle. The whole “not be associated with your VIN to protect your privacy” is moot. You cannot anonymize your face or those of your passengers. You cannot have video that is useful to engineers without having other metadata that would easily link the video to a specific incident. Should Tesla want to use in-cabin video to defend themselves against a lawsuit or even just bad press they could easily find the video that matches the event they re looking for without a VIN. They might even be able to use the video to get out of a claim if you use their insurance. Tesla might expose themselves to legal action based upon the wording of what you agree to but the risk Tesla will use the video against your interests regardless is still there. Same with a subpoena from law enforcement- metadata and or facial recognition would allow LE to get exactly the video they want to build a case against the driver. Just because you think you weren t at fault doesn t mean video of your actions preceding an accident won t be used against you. Any agreement you have with Tesla about that data is meaningless when faced with a subpoena. Same with a data breach- videos could be scrubbed by nefarious actors with facial recognition software to identify every single person recorded. I honestly don t know what they d do with that data but when Tesla claims your privacy will be protected it clearly is not. In-cabin recording will be super beneficial for SentryCam for rideshare drivers and for carshare owners. However this is not that. There is no provision for the data to be available to the owner of the vehicle. There is no clear upside for an individual who activates the Cabin Camera but the unknowns and unknowables clearly create potential for a very large downside. I put a few other points together in a video but the above is a pretty good TL DW. (https: youtu.be rVPTwzm97Gs) | TWANGnBANG | 2020-06-29 16:17:44 | 18 | fwdou2m | If the data can be used to train something that helps alleviate the wheel nag then I m all for it. As for identification I really could care less. I mean if they wanted to my VIN is tied to my name address GPS history etc. Facial recognition not needed. Likewise using my name my picture is on Facebook and Linkedin. If they say they are stripping the VIN from the data then I believe them. At the end of the day it doesn t matter. At best they ll identify that I pick my nose sometimes. | croninsiglos | 2020-06-29 16:24:46 | 21 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
vqz7tb | Cabin Camara not working at night | Anyone else on FSD beta having problems with cabin camera working at night? Lately when I engage FSD beta at night after a few seconds the red steering wheel pops up telling me to take over. Then a message appears on the screen saying “cabin camera blinded or obscured” This only happens at night and if I turn on the cabin lights it works fine. So I m guessing it s night vision isn t working? Edit: Lots of good suggestions here. Thanks for the feedback! I think my window tint being too dark is the most likely problem. I m gonna try keeping the footwell lights on and see if that helps. Will update when I have a chance to test it. | benjamima1986 | 2022-07-04 04:34:07 | 25 | iesrwzc | Are u black and or wearing black? | lemenick | 2022-07-04 09:15:43 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6r4xwr | Cabin Camera | Has Tesla started shipping Model S X with the camera above the rear-view mirror? This could be a big reason why it wasn t announced in the event on the 31st. We could probably expect a refresh of the S X interior in the coming months. https: twitter.com elontimes status 892764644179406848 | josieshima | 2017-08-02 15:30:27 | 18 | dl2fxjx | You know where they should put a camera? In the footwell so there will be no more autopilot accelerated by itself claims. | FandomOfRandom | 2017-08-02 16:54:42 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
f8rg02 | Cabin Heating Currently Unavailable | I ve done a little searching and can t find much online. Tried the usual fixes screen reset deep sleep etc and the fault is still there after 24 hrs. Made service center appointment but that is over a week away and the commute here in Colorado is a little chilly. (VCRIGHT\_a278) Cabin heating currently unavailable & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 082gohiimvi41.jpg?width=640& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=da420f5610a506ebde01f5865a13f00f1bba879a Greg Model 3 Dual Motor VIN: 87xxx Sept 2018 23 000 miles Firmware: 2020.4.1 | gallen1119 | 2020-02-24 13:47:38 | 25 | fin2vv4 | I wouldn t wait for an appointment I d just drive over to the SC. For urgent issues like this they should be able to fit you in. | igbright | 2020-02-24 14:27:11 | 27 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
8qwfw8 | Cabin Overheat Protection on Model 3 | Does anyone know definitively if there is cabin overheat protection for the M3. After 18.13 I think I have noticed a difference in my cabin heat. Used to hit 140\+ but now around 110F. My friend had his car hit over 120F and sometimes higher. I ve read the other posts and results were all over the place. Can anyone confirm or deny this as a function in the model 3 or share what you re experiencing? | F00sh00 | 2018-06-13 21:56:14 | 20 | e0mlota | It s a thing same used to happen to me - temps in the 140 s now I rarely see it above 100. As a consequence I ve been losing about 4% of my battery during my workday (10a-7p) since my car sits in the hot sun all day. | frumpy_cat | 2018-06-13 22:13:06 | 16 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
5frmpl | Cabin heating for the model S? HOW it works not IF | I ve been trying to find my answers for a couple of days now to no avail so here s to hoping someone here can help.. 1. Do they use the 12V to run the heater or the main battery pack? 2. Are they using a PTC heater to warm the air directly? So air is pumped around the heater then dispersed through the cabin? Sounds like it [hear](https: www.tesla.com blog blowing-hot-and-cold) but [here](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums climateheating-system-cold-weather) it sounds like they re using coolant.. I did find [this](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads how-does-the-model-s-heater-work.10255 ) and it mentions a heat-exchanger as well as the PTC heater. Very curious on how it all works or if it s somehow a mystery.. | kcaselli66 | 2016-11-30 19:35:19 | 13 | damxuwm | https: i.imgur.com TOUXlWM.jpg | Ninj4s | 2016-12-01 01:17:14 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ea88iq | Cabin heating on auto | I haven t seen this discussed here before. I literally just got 40.2.1 on my 2019 M3 DM LR but this relates to every version since noticing it after the summer ended. Has anyone else noticed the cabin heating when set in auto fluctuates too much between blowing the cabin too hot and then cold? On my car it seems it should switch “direction” earlier in smaller increments. Now I have to turn the temperature a bit up and down all the time on longer trips. | thbo | 2019-12-13 19:03:12 | 21 | faohdg6 | We need neural network HVAC stat! A settable dead band like your home thermostat would solve a lot of problems. | BabyYeggie | 2019-12-13 19:13:02 | 22 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
6i7x2x | Cabin overheat protection almost always running? | Has anyone experienced their fan and or AC running almost continuously when parked in direct sun? I ve lost between five to ten percent of my range in a single day while at the office. I ve tried cracking the windows and even leaving all windows all the way down but the cabin requires a cooling cycle about every thirty seconds to sixty seconds and there is a pool of water under the car all day. I m assuming I shouldn t disable it as it protects the displays and interior but it s a pretty big loss of energy. Are there other owners how have experienced this? Car: S75D w tan interior and glass roof. | DJB_2015 | 2017-06-19 17:28:11 | 20 | dj44tyi | Just disable it and set it to auto on :15 before you leave work. Or via the app. Overheat is for pets or kids not from the interior melting. | Ludachris9000 | 2017-06-19 17:37:22 | 29 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
8zzut8 | Cabin overheat protection not working | My Model 3 is running 2018.24.8. The overheat protection setting is on but I m looking at the app and it says it s 128F. Is the feature working for anyone on this firmware? | vj1096 | 2018-07-18 21:58:36 | 18 | e2mp817 | The interior temperature reading in the app isn t always accurate if the fan isn t currently running. That said you should probably report this to Tesla and see what they say. Edit: Also never rely on this feature to keep animals or kids safe in the car. Never. | wonderclown17 | 2018-07-18 22:20:41 | 19 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
n93414 | Cabin overheating protection useless for hot summer? | I m a still fairly new owner of a 2021 Model 3. Currently temperatures are rising where I live and when checking the app interior temperatures exceed 158°F (70°C) sometimes. I would really like to use COP to save the interior (leather plastics etc.) as well as the electronics but from what I see COP only works for 12 hours after leaving the car. This is not useful in case I m not driving the car for several days even just for one. Do I always have to go back to the car every single day drive some meters and then park it again in order to re-enable COP? The feature doesn t make too much sense if I understand everything correctly. Why isn t there a permanent setting that does the cooling for as long as I want or until the battery drains to 20% or maybe something I can set in the app? I appreciate any kind of help. Best regards! Oh and: Besides this it s the best car I have ever driven. I m really glad I bought it. | SomeHappyConsumer | 2021-05-10 12:20:16 | 17 | gxlt97a | I have an 4 18 production 3 and I live in Phoenix. I turned off over heat protection years ago. I d lose more range in the parking lot that I would on my commute. I hit the AC on the way out of my office and it s fine by the time I get there. The thing is all the cars in the parking lot are hot. The only reason some Tesla owners freak out is because we know what the temperature is inside the car. | machine_yearning | 2021-05-10 13:29:27 | 56 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
jicxx7 | Cable to Unlock All SR+ Speakers | Got this in the mail a few days ago. This cable can supposedly unlock the other 6 speakers in an SR+ that s not connected by the factory. (Some cars don t have the back speakers pre-installed but I do.) It will only physically connect the speaker to the existing amp which means the software will still think it s the old setup. It s also easy to remove if I need the car serviced by tesla. Since there is no official SR+ audio upgrade package available I have to give this a try because the road noise is very loud. And I need to wear earbuds to be able to hear audiobooks clearly in my car during my commute (maybe I am deaf). Maybe make speakers closer to my ears will improve the issue. I Will report back if my car caught on fire. Edit: The megaphone in the picture is not what I use daily for communicating with my family. It s a video prop from work. I am not that deaf(maybe). https: preview.redd.it bu80rxqgdfv51.jpg?width=703& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=285ab157598cd8667e589f0adc14e65bb1c67f8a | Invinciberry | 2020-10-26 11:37:33 | 54 | ga5r2df | I thought the SR was missing the Amp needed to power the other speakers. | Imightbewrong44 | 2020-10-26 12:12:32 | 25 | Tesla Model 3 Audio Experience |
33wqgm | Calculating the CO2 emissions per mile of the Model S | I started doing the math for this and figured I might as well post my findings here for the benefit of others. I ll try to calculate CO2 emissions for electricity from a variety of sources. **Assumptions** - The average american drives 37 miles day [source](http: www.fhwa.dot.gov ohim onh00 bar8.htm) - Average electricity line losses are 6% [source](http: www.eia.gov tools faqs faq.cfm?id=105& t=3) - Average vampire drain is 1.1 kwh day [source](http: www.greencarreports.com news 1088929_life-with-tesla-model-s-electric-draw-vampire-slain-at-last) - Average charging efficiency is 82% [source](https: evtripplanner.com efficiency.php) (this one is tricky and I read reports of anything from 50% efficiency to 98% efficiency. General consensus seemed to be close to 80%. If anyone has a more definitive number for this one let me know. - EPA rated efficiency of 321 wh mile So 37 miles * 321 wh mile .82 (charging efficiency) + 1100 wh vampire loss = 15567 wh. That divided by .94 for transmission losses = 16560 wh 37 = 448 wh mile *So the average EPA rated energy consumption per mile when transmission losses charging inefficiencies and vampire losses are taken into account is:* **448 wh mile** Now on to the meat of it. Coal fired power plants produce 968 grams of CO2 per kwh. [source](http: www.eia.gov tools faqs faq.cfm?id=74& t=11) **A Model S powered entirely by coal fired power plants emits 434 grams of CO2 mile** Burning a gallon of gasoline releases 8.89 kilograms of CO2. [source](http: www.epa.gov cleanenergy energy-resources refs.html) **So a Model S powered entirely by coal emits the same amount of CO2 as a car that gets 20.5 miles gallon.** However with any other source of electricity it gets much better. **A Model S charged with electricity generated by natural gas emits the same amount of CO2 as a car that gets 36 miles gallon.** The average non-baseload CO2 emissions for US electricity sources is 690 grams kwh [source](http: www.epa.gov cleanenergy energy-resources refs.html) **So on average in the USA the Model S emits the same amount of CO2 as a car that gets 29 miles gallon** I think these calculations are important for a couple of reasons: - They show that the reports of electric cars being worse for the environment than gas cars are wrong - They show just how important it is to power electric cars with renewable energy that emits no CO2 Let me know what you think of this analysis. Thank you for reading. | Quality_Bullshit | 2015-04-26 10:37:52 | 65 | cqp36iw | Interesting analysis wish I had more time to check your math and sources this morning :) One question: > Burning a gallon of gasoline releases 8.89 kilograms of CO2 Does this take into account the energy required to refine and transport gasoline? Because that s a pretty significant amount and I suspect the EV environmental value proposition improves when you add that in. | EatMoarToads | 2015-04-26 11:24:48 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
1vl4gc | Calculating the numbers behind the supercharger network | I m increasingly in awe of the growing [Supercharger network](http: www.teslawiki.net supercharger ). With 67 stations in the U.S and another 11 under construction Tesla is for real. However this got me thinking about the numbers behind the SC network. Obviously much of the cost of the network has to be built into the cars - otherwise it won t be sustainable over time.^1 **Breaking even** The supercharger upgrade costs [$2000](http: www.teslamotors.com models design) for the 60KWh Model S. For simplicity I ll assume that the $2000 is already priced into the 85KWh model. Ignoring the fixed costs of each supercharger does $2000 over the lifetime of the car support the entire network? Well Tesla estimates that [30 000 mi costs about $934](http: www.teslamotors.com goelectric#savings) in electricity bills. Being conservative let s estimate that Tesla Motors gets charged about the same rate for electricity.^2 I posit then that each Model S owner is purchasing 60 000 miles of supercharger electricity when purchasing the car. Tesla is profiting off of every mile below 60 000 that isn t used over the lifetime of the ~~car~~ battery. What s the average lifetime of the ~~car~~ battery? Tesla gives you a battery warranty for 8 years. That s seems like a reasonable number. 60 000mi of supercharging 8 years = 7500mi per year to break even **Supercharger percentage** To complete the (approximate) picture we need to know what percentage of Tesla drivers milage is charged using superchargers. The US Dept. of Transportation estimates about [18 000 mi driven per male driver 18-34](http: www.fhwa.dot.gov ohim onh00 bar8.htm). If Model S drivers use superchargers for fewer than 41% of their miles (7 500 18 000) then Tesla is coming out on top.^3 In the *short term*: 3.2M mi have been supercharged from a total of 200M mi driven. That s less than 2%. It seems that people like charging at home. As far as what that percentage will be in the *long term* it seems too complicated to estimate. I don t know how to estimate the average driving distance to a supercharger station from home office and how that distance will correlate to that % of total miles charged. I will say that the SC charger placement is geared more towards road trips rather than regular accessibility. Due to this placement I estimate that the actual % will be quite small. The short term numbers above support this. **Notes** ^1 Maybe the SC network is being built at a loss and Tesla eventually let other EVs charge for money. That s another conversation though. ^2 ~~Yes it s possible that Tesla gets bulk pricing at a slightly cheaper rate.~~ One poster pointed out that Tesla uses three phase power to for charging which is an apples to oranges comparison with charging per kwH. Perhaps some costs will be offset by solar canopies in the distant future but not yet - solar has a long way to go. ^3 The recurring costs are more than just power of course. Tesla likely has a to maintain a large support staff infrastructure for all of those stations. **TLDR ** Tesla s supercharger network while extremely attractive to customers has the chance to be self sustaining if not a source of profit. | tequilamocking | 2014-01-19 10:14:24 | 18 | cetfgnm | A few things you are missing. * the super chargers operate off of three phase power. The charges from the utility are totally different than what you pay for single phase power at home. [Source](http: www.teslamotors.com forum forums updated-how-it-works-supercharger-station) I know the cost of the electricity is less but the delivery charge is more. So you are comparing apples to oranges. Maybe someone can chime in with the cost of three phase power. * The DC electricity that is generated by the solar panels is not pumped into the cars. It is sold back to the utility. Presumably to offset the cost of the electricity they are purchasing for the chargers. Putting it in simple terms the type of electricity created by the solar cells is a different flavor of power than the type that is used by the Super Chargers. Considering the small volume of power that could be generated by those solar panels it is a drop in the bucket compared to what the 8 bay stations are consuming. * IMHO the solar cells are there for show to make people feel better about driving their electric cars. Edit: my apologies for bad formatting Redditing on an iPad sucks. | Steve0512 | 2014-01-19 16:02:08 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4k02zl | Calendar and Charging | I do event services quite often and if I were to use my Tesla for the times when it s just photo & video so I don t need to use the CUV. I think it would be pretty cool if the tesla linked with my calendar in the sense that for the times when it knows I have to go a long distance (based on address in my calendar) it will automatically charge to 100% vs 80% without me manually adjusting the charge limit. Does this make sense? | trinitesla | 2016-05-19 01:24:02 | 15 | d3b37f8 | Yes interesting idea. Personally I d rather have it push an app reminder or suggestion rather than automatically charging to 100% but the concept still holds. It also could remind you to plug in if you haven t. | EatMoarToads | 2016-05-19 02:12:53 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5xtecm | Calendar does not sync - bug | I was wondering if I am the only one having that problem and if anybody might have a solution to that: My Tesla s calendar does not sync with my phone. On my phone s settings that option is not even available. I am on the latest version of iOS and also that latest version of the Tesla app. I rebooted the phone already and I also removed and reinstalled the Tesla app multiple times. Images here: https: imgur.com a CPiOj Any help is appreciated. | Paladin32776 | 2017-03-06 14:11:39 | 18 | dekr9yl | I was having calendar sync issues. Un-pairing and re-pairing did the trick for me. | entropy413 | 2017-03-06 15:22:27 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4q96uz | Calendar in tesla touchscreen not working. | Tried everything except what works hopefully... Please help. Trying to get outlook to sync particularly locations of meetings. Edit I m using an android phone Samsung Galaxy Note5 and have outlook through an email client called touchdown | TMKtheGreat | 2016-06-28 12:34:11 | 13 | d4r4pgy | You are probably in Hong Kong. | FredTesla | 2016-06-28 12:56:32 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
b9y1vw | Calgary service staff all let go (yet service staying open?) | The local owner club was just informed that effective immediately all service staff at the local center was pretty go. They have confirmed the store stays open and service also somehow stays open (new staff?!) The staff stated the changes take effect immediately and they were given no notice (again how can it stay open I wonder?). Has anyone else heard of Tesla firing and rehiring all staff like this? The center had great staff and a strong reputation with owners so it would seem to be more motivated by cost cutting rather than fixing a staff quality problem. | footbag | 2019-04-05 23:14:32 | 24 | ek7ycf6 | Don t jump to any conclusions without more information or from an official source. | NYR | 2019-04-06 01:30:25 | 15 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
b3rrdr | Calif HOV CAV Carpool stickers decals whatever.... | On the 61st day of not getting anything in the mail and with much anger brewing each day I become one with the mighty parking lot that is the 405 I took the big step of calling the DMV to pose the inquiry of whether my application has dropped into the abyss. To my fellow kindred ones who is on the verge of going ballistic I d like to share with you my information that I have learned... * Don t call them unless it s at least 60 days since you ve mailed it in. * DMV (Ca) opens at 8am but at 9am on Weds (please don t ask me how I know....) * The indicator of your $22 cashed check may not post in your account for a few days. * Phone will disconnect you with the blah busy blah blah please try again so you just have to try again. * You have to call the right number not the regular 800 line so save yourself a few good hours for nothing. * I don t know if there is a restriction on posting phone numbers so please DM me for the 916 number that deals with this stuff. * Use the callback service and be ready with the license plate or VIN make model and your name when they do call you back in a few hours. I did just this a few days ago and sure enough the guy says it s already processed a few days back and the check posted that every night. Because I have not received mine yet I restrained myself from asking if the delay was due to the shortage of gold for the embedded lining. & #x200B Good Luck & #x200B | bdbx18 | 2019-03-21 15:19:32 | 12 | ej1q1a4 | The fact that we have to send in a paper form and a fucking check like it s 1973 is ridiculous. | run-the-joules | 2019-03-21 16:04:04 | 11 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
4nneqt | California $2500 rebate expired last night? | I just read that the CA $2500 rebate expired last night and new apps are wait listed awaiting funding from Jerry Brown. Anybody know more about this? https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads model-s-delivery-update.9489 page-589 | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2016-06-11 21:45:33 | 23 | d45jz7s | This happens every few months. Don t worry about it. Your name will be put on a list and you ll get the money when the fund gets filled back up. | FANGO | 2016-06-12 02:12:25 | 5 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
8soq7w | California Clean Air Vehicle Decal | First my apologies if this has been covered I ve scoured and haven t found anything since 2016 on the topic! I just got my big ugly red Clean Air HOV stickers for California. I don t need them 95% of the time and don t want to damage the paint scrubbing them off in 6 months when it expires. I was imagining there has to be a vinyl decal or magnet or something these can go on. Does anyone have experience or advice in making these removable less ugly? | tekjester1 | 2018-06-21 03:46:37 | 34 | e114rri | There s a YouTube video from ocdetailing showing how to do it. Basically just slap it on a small piece of PPF (xpel 3m etc) you can easily buy on amazon and cut it to size. Then apply it with soapy water. | outie2k | 2018-06-21 04:02:52 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dl7mjv | California Insurance Price Hike | I own a 2019 Model 3 LR and paid about $460 in collision coverage for the first 6 months. For the next 6 months (with no accidents address change or change in coverage) I m being quoted \~$730 . (so my total rate went from $853 to $1114) Just got off the phone with Geico to ask why. They said some rating agency that they use now considers this to be a high performance vehicle whereas when I signed up in May it was rated as a standard performance vehicle . Insurance agent told me that for this and for other reasons rates have gone up in California for a lot of people. It sounded like corporate mumbo jumbo to me this seems like a really bullshit way to try to justify a price increase of almost $600 yr . I switched to Geico at first because they gave me the cheapest rates but looks like I ll have to search around again. Any thoughts? Anyone else experience this? | UnusualSight | 2019-10-21 21:53:25 | 51 | f4o0qm8 | did you try Tesla s insurance? get a quote from [tesla.com](https: tesla.com) under your account page. | c18zyxt | 2019-10-21 21:56:54 | 58 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
9gdphb | California Law for EV Charging at an Apartment | I m considering buying a Model 3 but am first trying to figure out my charging situation to see if it will be practical given that I rent an apartment and my complex has no charging stations currently. I inquired about whether they would consider installing one and they said no. They also said I could not charge from an existing outlet near my parking spot. I understand there are laws in my state of California requiring landlords to let tenants pay to install their own charging station ([https: leginfo.legislature.ca.gov faces billTextClient.xhtml?bill\_id=201320140AB2565](https: leginfo.legislature.ca.gov faces billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140AB2565)) but there are some aspects to this that are fuzzy to me: & #x200B 1.) As stated in the bill text the lessee must pay for the electricity used. This makes sense but it s unclear to me how the usage would be known. Would additional monitoring equipment have to be installed? How would the landlord know who is using the charging station? What if the landlord does not have the means or desire to keep track of these additional fees? 2.) The bill only seems to enforce the right to install a charging station not the right to use it. I raise this distinction because I would like to know if I have any legal rights to charge without installing a charging station (i.e. from a standard wall outlet). This would of course be much simpler. & #x200B Anyone have any knowledge on this subject or perhaps first hand experience with this law? Thanks. | stanun | 2018-09-16 20:08:34 | 22 | e63cl0g | I m not sure about the laws but as far as usage something like a juice box pro has built in WiFi and a great all to track usage. | SemiformalSpecimen | 2018-09-16 20:10:27 | 15 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8f0901 | California Model 3 rebate clarification | Hello everyone. I got my configure email and I m wanting to make sure I have the rebates correct. I live in Fresno which is in the central valley so I believe there are two rebates I can get. The first one is clean vehicle rebate project https: cleanvehiclerebate.org eng which gives you a $2 500 rebate. The second one is the san joaquin valley air http: valleyair.org grants driveclean.htm which gives you a $3 000 rebate. There is one more possible rebate with the CVRP for low income applicants. It says that every person in the household must report their income which would put me over the eligible limit but it seems a bit unfair because my two roommates pay me $400 each a month which is a small fraction of their total income. Also PG& E has a non tiered plan for electric vehicles that seems like it will drop my electric bill down a bit. Other than those there is the federal tax credit. I m hoping somebody can clarify these or has done all of this recently themselves. I would much appreciate it. | attoj559 | 2018-04-26 05:20:26 | 14 | dxzkjkj | I am not an attorney. I am not your attorney. Having said that I would be surprised if your roommates are a part of your “household” in any sensible interpretation. ETA: did a little searching: typically “household” is people you put on your tax return. Your roommates are your tenants not your household. (Unless of course you have an... unconventional... lifestyle relationship with them. No judgement here hey you do you. Or whoever.) Once again: I am not an attorney. I am not your attorney. Seek professional advice. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. | lbroadfield | 2018-04-26 05:33:14 | 12 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
c08wpf | California Model X orders since raven update anyone taken delivery in CA recently? | I ordered at the end of April just after they announced the raven updates to the car. Delivery was scheduled for today but got a call last night pushing it out saying they are waiting on CA to certify the model after the raven updates before I can take delivery. Have any of you taken delivery of a raven updated model x in CA in the last 6 weeks? Edit just found this post at the tesla forums. https: forums.tesla.com forum forums my-sr-model-x-has-been-built-stuck-fremont-over-2-weeks | faybert | 2019-06-13 17:44:28 | 29 | er2wbjz | Yikes - just got a phone call that my delivery is tomorrow for a Raven X - hope that comes through. I ll post tomorrow if I get it. | arathos2k | 2019-06-13 18:37:14 | 9 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
89va2y | California Resident buying new Model 3 I want all the rebates! | I know I will get the $7500 Tax Credit and $2500 State Rebate. Are there any other rebates perks I qualify for when purchasing a new Model 3? I just took delivery last week and absolutely love it! Edit: I live in San Diego County and have SDGE as a utility provider. | puppeteria | 2018-04-05 00:44:41 | 10 | dwts1hn | Click all and punch in your zip code. [link to California EV rebates](https: www.driveclean.ca.gov pev Incentives.php) | cpldeja | 2018-04-05 00:46:49 | 28 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
im3b0l | California buyers that received incentives were you able to combine CA EV rebates? | California offers $5 000 towards the down-payment of an EV used or new for qualified buyers. A separate California program also offers $4 500 for income qualified buyers of new EVs. I qualify for both but would need to research more to see if it would work out. My question is has anyone successfully combined both incentives? Anyone try but fail? I m trying to get in touch with the agencies but have yet to receive a response. Another model 3 under 30K would be quite amazing. | fflip8 | 2020-09-03 22:04:19 | 17 | g3wxdgn | It s amazing you re able to buy a second Model 3 with such low income needed to qualify for these rebates at these amounts.. Based on the cost of living in CA I can only see (a) retired folks or (b) someone with a lot of money saved up but recently lost their job qualifying for such conditions or (c) someone cooking the books and not accurately reporting their income (tax evasion). & #x200B > Number of People\*Maximum Gross Annual Income\*\* 1 $51 040 2 $68 960 CVA: [https: cleanvehiclegrants.org eligibility ](https: cleanvehiclegrants.org eligibility ) > Increased Rebate Income Limits Household Size Combined Household Income must be less than\*: 1 $38 280 2 $51 720 CVRP: [https: cleanvehiclerebate.org eng income-eligibility#income-limits](https: cleanvehiclerebate.org eng income-eligibility#income-limits) | blaker9410 | 2020-09-03 22:33:07 | 14 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
hhsppz | California mandates big increase in zero-emission trucks | I believe this is partly why Semi is highest priority now. So Tesla can sell those sweet sweet ZEV credits to other truck manufacturers. https: www.latimes.com business story 2020-06-25 new-california-truck-mandate-100-000-zero-emission-commercial-haulers-sold-annually-by-2030 | dltesla | 2020-06-29 03:45:58 | 109 | fwc5tek | > California mandates big increase in zero-emission trucks > By Russ MitchellStaff Writer > The nation s toughest clean-air mandate on trucks was approved Thursday by the California Air Resources Board. > > In effect the board ordered manufacturers of medium-duty and heavy-duty commercial trucks to begin selling zero-emission versions in 2024 with 100 000 sold in California by 2030 and 300 000 by 2035. > > “This is a bold step we re taking today ” said air board member Judy Mitchell adding it is a daunting challenge given the public investment that will be necessary for buyer incentives and charging infrastructure. > > The mandate is intended to cut air pollution and push the state toward ambitious greenhouse gas reduction goals — 40% below 1990 levels by 2030 and 80% below by 2050. > > Environmentalists health advocates climate action supporters and others voiced strong support at an online hearing Thursday before the vote. So did makers of electric trucks and buses. > > “California is once again leading the nation in the fight to make our air cleaner becoming the first place in the world to mandate zero emission trucks by 2045 ” Gov. Gavin Newsom said in a statement. “Communities and children of color are often forced to breathe our most polluted air and today s vote moves us closer toward a healthier future for all of our kids.” > > Representatives of traditional manufacturers 95% of whose products are powered by diesel fuel opposed the mandate and suggested it will be impossible to meet the air board s timeline. > > The mandate is “flawed ” said Jed Mandel president of the Truck and Engine Manufacturers Assn. an industry group. “There is no charging infrastructure there is inadequate incentive funding available” for buyers and zero-emission trucks “cost more than traditional fuel trucks ” he said. > > Advertisement > > As it approved the mandate the board pushed infrastructure and incentive funding questions into the future. > > Mandel suggested the program be delayed for two years until 2026 to allow more time for truck-specific charging systems to be installed and for the consideration of policies to encourage the purchase of such vehicles: state incentives for buyers and a mandate on fleet operators to buy a set percentage of zero-emission trucks. > > The air board will conduct a detailed survey of fleet operators with more than 50 trucks that do business in California to help determine what additional policies are needed to boost demand. The mandate takes in trucks ranging from pickups that can haul three-quarters of a ton to semi trucks that fully loaded weigh 80 000 pounds. The air board said about 75 000 such trucks are sold each year. > > Dawn Fenton government relations head for Volvo Group said the company is committed to moving quickly into the zero-emission truck market but “we doubt the market s readiness to absorb the volumes proposed in this regulation.” > > Advertisement > > Supporters of the mandate argued that California can t meet its greenhouse gas goals if diesel trucks are not eventually phased out. > > “The sooner we move the sooner the skies will clear and people s health will improve ” said Andrea Vidaurre policy analyst at the Center for Community Action and Environmental Justice based in Jurupa Valley near Riverside. > > She emphasized that freeways ports distribution centers and rail yards tend to border low-income areas increasing the health risk for people living there. > > Diesel trucks contribute nitrogen oxides particulate matter and other pollutants proven to cause lung damage asthma and cancer among other serious health problems. > > Advertisement > > Several other states most in the Northeast plan to adopt the air board s mandate known as the Advanced Clean Truck initiative. “There s clearly a national interest” in reducing pollution Katie Dykes the commissioner of the Connecticut Department of Energy and Environmental Protection said Thursday. > > Transportation is the largest greenhouse gas contributor in the state pumping out more than a third of the human-produced total. Industrial and electrical power sources are second and third. > > Battery electric and hydrogen fuel-cell trucks produce no vehicle emissions although if the original source of energy is nonrenewable power plants they still have a carbon footprint. That s why the state also aims for 60% of electricity to be produced by solar wind and other zero-carbon sources by 2030 and 100% by 2045. > > Like the credit system that California employs to require manufacturers to sell zero-emission vehicles in California the truck mandate is based on a credit market. Basically manufacturers that sell a certain percentage of zero-emission vehicles in California earn credits that can be sold to those manufacturers that don t sell enough. The state plans to have 4 000 zero-emission trucks in operation by 2024 100 000 by 2030 and 300 000 by 2035. > > Advertisement > > The state figures that 50% of medium-duty trucks and 30% of big rigs sold each year will be zero-emission by 2030. > > Medium-duty electric trucks — mainly large vans and box trucks with no semi-trailer — are expected to succeed faster than electric semi trucks because range requirements for their hauling jobs are lower and they can be charged at a depot overnight. > > Many new players compete in this segment including Rivian and Chanje. Calstart a clean transportation industry group said 169 different zero-emission commercial models will be available by the end of the year compared with 95 in 2019. Amazon has invested in Michigan-based Rivian and said it plans to buy 100 000 electric delivery vans from the company over the next several years. > > All major truck manufacturers are developing electric trucks powered either by batteries or by hydrogen electric fuel cells. That includes Daimler s Freightliner brand Volvo International s Navistar and Paccar s Peterbilt and Kenworth. > > Advertisement > > Toyota and Kenworth have begun a pilot program at the Port of Los Angeles funded in part by California taxpayers with 10 fuel-cell trucks. A start-up called Nikola breaks ground this month on a factory in Arizona to build fuel-cell semi trucks. Tesla announced an electric semi truck in 2017 but manufacturing plans remain on ice. > > The start-ups will benefit but the traditional manufacturers “will have a hard time dealing with this ” Antti Lindstrom commercial truck market analyst at IHS Markit told The Times. > > While alternative energy trucks might make financial sense for fleet owners on a long-term cost of ownership basis he said the upfront cost of such trucks is far higher: $125 000 for a diesel semi tractor is a rough industry rule of thumb versus more than $200 000 for a zero-emission equivalent depending on the range and underlying technology. > > The current lack of charging infrastructure and paucity of incentives for buyers are serious problems Lindstrom said. And even if they are addressed with the state in a serious budget crisis “who is going to pay for it?” > > Advertisement > > Building out a truck-charging infrastructure is essential air board member Barbara Riordan said. She voted for the mandate but noted that truck manufacturers such as Volvo taking in state grants for electric-truck pilot programs are complaining about a lack of charging stations. The state needs to “make sure we re not creating problems we can t overcome ” Riordan said. > > Board members barely mentioned California s budget shortfall which stands at about $54 billion largely due to effects of the COVID-19 pandemic. | dltesla | 2020-06-29 04:39:54 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dgh5pn | Californians with Powerwall and affected by the pre-emptive blackouts what was your experience | The pre-emptive blackouts may be the new normal here in California. The perfect storm of high winds low humidity and high temperature is forcing PG& E and other CA utilities to take these precautions. Aging trees and aging power lines can be downed during these conditions and literally spark a repeat of the 2018 wildfires. There s a saying that the best time to fix a leaking roof is five years ago and the next best time is today. Many are outraged that PG& E did not foresee upgrading their aging infrastructure while exiting executives got millions in severance. The cost to individuals and businesses meanwhile might be in the hundreds of millions. My power is still out on it s 2nd day. (On a side note how are cell towers still able to work? Incredibly cell phone service is fully functional with just a little bit of degradation in signal strength.) I do agree that what PG& E is doing now is the responsible thing to do and there s news that another combination of these weather conditions are in forecast again in the coming weeks. With this rant my aim is to do what I can to be more resilient to these blackouts. I can t rely on PG& E looking out for my best interest but I can t be socialized to accept this as the new normal. I firmly believe that home energy storage + solar is really one the best solutions in becoming resilient to what may be a more common event. I already have a PV array which gets me to almost net zero but it did not help me during the blackout. There was a run on portable generators and you could not find one at Costco Home Depot Lowes Harbor Freight in the entire Bay Area radius. By the way I did not have any issues charging my Model 3 at a Supercharger while I saw long lines at gas stations. Today I placed an order for Powerwalls. Tesla is in the best position to make home energy storage the new normal. EDIT: I want to add that Powerwalls don t necessarily need a solar array combination. They can be charged ~~off~~ from the grid. [https: www.tesla.com support energy powerwall mobile-app additional-modes](https: www.tesla.com support energy powerwall mobile-app additional-modes) | Derfein | 2019-10-11 15:56:17 | 72 | f3bkcvp | PG& E and should take a page out of the San Diego (SDGE) playbook. After the last set of devastating fires they spent 10 years creating micro-grids (so you can shut down smaller granular areas) replaced wooden poles with metal poles spent more on tree trimming better insulation and local power generation capability. They invested over a $1B into it over a decade. No easy answer and the current PG& E infrastructure is not set up for a warming climate. More power to you for taking the initiative and setting up essentially your personal grid as it is not going to be possible to rely on PG& E in the short term. | onestopunder | 2019-10-11 16:43:28 | 42 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
83ze2d | Californians: If your HOV stickers haven t arrived they probably won t for another 3-5 weeks. | Just got off the phone with DMV to ask where my stickers are and he said that basically anyone whose application arrived later than end of January will not get stickers until the new (red… ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh) stickers start shipping at the end of this month or beginning of April. Not thrilled with the time wasting going on where I m rotting in traffic hell because they can t get their shit together but that s life I guess. | run-the-joules | 2018-03-12 22:55:47 | 26 | dvlo8yv | I always drive in the carpool lane in the bay area and have never used my stickers. Never been pulled over. I also drive without a front license plate and I set my cruise control at 5 mph over the speed limit so you can definitely tell I am a badass. | stml | 2018-03-12 23:22:12 | 21 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
8drvbi | Call Tesla if you move countries after you made your Model 3 reservation | I made my reservation on presentation day on March 31 2016 when I used to live in Canada. I moved to the US later that year so I went to Tesla s website to update my account info with my new US address. I got the invite to configure my Model 3 last weekend and noticed that everything was in CAD$. I called sales who told me that I need to cancel my old reservation and make a new one with US in the settings and that they would honor my place in line. It s nice that Tesla would do this but they also noted that this process can take up to 20 business days \- an entire month. So if you moved countries it s best to let Tesla know as soon as you can and before you get your invite for configuration. EDIT: just realized that this means I ll miss the WA state incentive \(May 31\) for sure. 😞 EDIT 4 25: just got my new (American) invite! It only took 1 business day and not 15+! Woohoo thanks Tesla!! | jlian | 2018-04-20 23:13:43 | 156 | dxpmnaz | Thanks for this. I moved the opposite way across the boarder recently and will have to get on this before I get my invite. | brohammer5 | 2018-04-21 01:01:47 | 13 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
y89zki | Call for questions for Andrej Karpathy from Lex Fridman | Hi my name is Lex Fridman. I host a [podcast](https: www.youtube.com c lexfridman). I m talking to Andrej Karpathy on it soon. If you have questions topic suggestions you d like us to discuss including technical and philosophical ones please let me know. **EDIT**: Here s [the resulting published episode](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=cdiD-9MMpb0). Thank you for the questions! | lexfridman | 2022-10-19 18:16:15 | 882 | isz4ee5 | His opinion on sensor fusion the removal of radar and now ultra sonics | altimas | 2022-10-19 19:26:58 | 676 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
51smgr | Call from Tesla Fremont | I just got a call from Tesla asking what they could do to get me to take delivery before end of September. They were willing to move my car into production now (I delayed my order until November when I ordered in July) or move my $2 500 order payment to any inventory car S or X. I said I would think about it as I was in the middle of something at the time. I wonder if I can have them take delivery fee off as some have got. Sounds like they are doing all they can to close this quarter high. Now if only those magic P90D classic fascia deals were still around! Anyone else receive this call? Update: Took the offer similar car to what I ordered and saved dest doc fees. | ohthehumans | 2016-09-08 17:57:58 | 43 | d7ein8m | I bet if you tell them you re in if they drop the dest doc fee they would probably go for it. | purestevil | 2016-09-08 18:18:08 | 14 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
fog1mo | Called Tesla Charlotte and the asked if I was willing to pick up Model Y early 👍👍👍 | With looming concerns of being shit down sounds like dealers are trying to accommodate deliveries ASAP. I was scheduled for pickup Saturday but when I called the dealer about unrelated question they pushed my delivery to that day. Cruising in my Y and feeling good!! They mentioned NC Tesla may shit down starting at some point tomorrow so I would call immediately if you re scheduled to pick up in near future | mistertogg | 2020-03-24 23:49:55 | 175 | flezp9u | Shit down for lack of toilet paper | DeuceSevin | 2020-03-25 00:07:25 | 126 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
5aszml | Calling All $TSLA Investors New YouTube show HyperChange Latest Episode is about Tesla and the potential of Model 3 + Solar Roofs Batteries. Would love feedback from long time shareholders. | Just became a $TSLA shareholder again and vlogged all my thoughts on my new YouTube channel HyperChange. Would love feedback thoughts from any shareholders or people who follow the stock. Always looking for a good discussion. https: www.youtube.com watch?v=RFW898D_mEg | galileorussell | 2016-11-02 22:20:51 | 17 | d9jd3el | I think it s cool you re doing this youtube series and I think millenials do need to think about long-term capital preservation and growth. So kudos . But dude TSLA is a highly overvalued bubble stock that has tremendous risk inherant to its business model. You assign an 8x multiple on Tesla s car business for a 100 billion market cap. Yet other mature car companies like Ford and GM are at multiples of 5.6 and 3.6 respectively. If Tesla were assigned a multiple of 4.6 it would be at a market cap of about 170B. That s still ridiculously optimstic since it s premised on Tesla selling around 900 000 cars in 2020. That s ridiculous. Tesla is not even going to hit the low end of its guidance in 2016 and it missed 2015. Is your investment thesis not based on a very speculative and wildly optimistic 2020 projection? In my humble opinion That s not investing but gambling. Ultimately what I want to ask Tesla investors is a more basic question. What would have to happen -- in terms of quantitative financial metrics -- for you to reject investing in Tesla? I keep hearing pollyannaish stories where everything has to go wildly right for Tesla to be even close to its current valuation. And often these stories have to do with disruption and synergy and all sorts of other buzz words. But what I want to know are numbers. What would the actual numbers have to be in 2016 or 2017 for you to think that Tesla is not worth investing in? | frenlaven | 2016-11-03 02:27:17 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
b0b7ij | Calling all Crystal Ballers: How will the market response to Model Y? Buy TSLA now or Friday? | Note: I am NOT a major investor. I have all of 14 shares (whoo-hoo!) that I bought at $143 when TSLA tanked a while ago. I am planning a bit larger investment this time around but not huge. I know it is a small potatoes and nothing meaningful to real investors but I can afford it and I believe in the company and its mission. | DNKPSYD | 2019-03-12 18:29:15 | 17 | eidddt6 | Yeah having TSLA has been tough. Always one Elon tweet or hit article out of sight. | rawr_guthlaf | 2019-03-12 18:44:02 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bjv7j4 | Calling all Tesla owners! What would you say you love or dislike about your vehicles? What needs to be thrown away be enhanced or kept? Where do you feel Tesla should put their focus? | Owners are in a unique position to discuss the intricacies that many don t deal with on a daily basis. We do have the weekly [Idea Feedback Megathreads](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=flair%3Amegathread+idea%2Ffeedback& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all) but they don t get too much traction. If you re a Roadster Model S X or 3 owner specify in your comment to help differentiate. Very curious to see what the community thinks maybe could give Tesla a boost of insight into what needs attention that could currently be overlooked. Make your voice heard! | 110110 | 2019-05-02 13:54:10 | 136 | embgmbq | * Spotify option for the US (even if I have to pay for a subscription). * Apply Carplay Android Auto * Dashcam for AP2 Sentry mode for AP2 - both with cloud recording. * Check for update button (ie check for an update if there is a newer version available even if the car hasn t been flagged | courtlandre | 2019-05-02 14:13:48 | 184 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8rktub | Calling fellow East Coast Model 3 reservation holders with delivery estimate of Jul-Sep | Hello. Anyone hear anything yet? I reserved on 4 21 16. I m expecting to be on the tail end of that list but have nothing to compare it to. | FishMann1 | 2018-06-16 17:22:25 | 23 | e0s4i7i | I reserved early morning 4 1 the day after reveal. My estimate is May-July. Nothing yet. | jiml78 | 2018-06-16 17:46:11 | 17 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
dmxu28 | Cam Viewer for Tesla (iOS) | iOS 13 added the possibility to connect USB storage devices through the lightning port. So I looked for an app and found Cam Viewer for Tesla that looked alright and was decently priced at €5 5. So I installed it and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. I wanted to share my experience since it s pretty useful to be able to review footage in the car. **Connecting** At first I was using a cheap AliExpress lightning to USB converter. This wasn t a good idea. For some reason the device kept disconnecting out of nowhere. So I decided to get the official Apple USB adapter since I have more uses for this than just Cam Viewer. This cable requires me to be connected to a lightning power cable in order to read from my USB stick but that isn t too much of a bother with 4 USB ports in the car. **The App** The app works quite well. You sleect the TeslaCam folder on the USB drive and then you can view all the videos. It shows all 4 video s with one video in a larger viewer just like most viewers allow. You can scroll through a video or play at 1 3 or 5x speed. I do feel like it drops some frames while scrolling so you might miss something. I would like a 10x speed option and an option to jump to event like the web based SentryCam app. When you ve found a video you want to save it gives you 2 options. You can save the videos to the app where you can view them any time or save all 4 videos to your camera roll. I would like an option to save only a single video since often I don t need all 4 videos to share. In the long term I hope this app will be maintained. I looked at the developer and their previous apps haven t been updated in years. So I fear that the next major iOS update may break the app. Hopefully I m worng about this or Tesla adds a viewer in the car before that time. [You can get the app here.](https: apps.apple.com nl app cam-viewer-for-tesla id1476197999?l=en) Edit: Forgot to add that I d also love a combined export feature since it currently just exports the separate videos. | wickedsight | 2019-10-25 13:58:45 | 50 | f55qu64 | Thank you for the review. Good info as I am considering doing this as well. | superchunked | 2019-10-25 14:03:21 | 8 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
6xseow | Came across this paper which explains the advantage of multiple speed transmissions on electric vehicles | http: www.evs28.org event_file event_file 1 pfile EVS28_Saphir_Faid.pdf I tend to disagree with the prevailing belief that it is a bad idea to use multiple speed transmissions on EVs and hope hope this paper provides some information about the topic. I have no connection to the company and I believe ZF (current transmission supplier of Tesla) can (will) produce a more compact one. This design is more like a two speed automatic transmission without a torque converter. That one is easy to apply. It could get lighter and more efficient with a manual transmission like design + electronic rev-matching. Edit: Grammar | ice_and_snow | 2017-09-03 10:14:49 | 13 | dmi4fpn | From memory Tesla had a 2 speed transmission in the original Roadster but the gearbox kept failing under the torque load.... | without a torque converter. That may prevent the problem? I am sure this will be a good thing if it can be made to work reliably and have a reasonable warrantied lifetime... | M3FanOZ | 2017-09-03 10:27:58 | 19 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8wfdqh | Came up with some percentages on VIN distribution by color for those of us that configured on the 27th | Pulled the values from Teslike s tracker so the sample size isn t huge but still interesting to see in my opinion. Just a simple percent of users who configured on 6 27 and have gotten a VIN. * Red(11 71) - 15% * White(6 40) - 15% * MSM(26 68) - 38% * Silver(10 19) - 53% * Blue(25 78) - 32% * Black(8 29) - 28% Doesn t prove anything because of the sample size but it does continue to build up the theory that something is choking the delivery numbers for Red & White. One theory I have seen is that Tesla purposely cut down on red and white since they are multicoat and take longer to help reach their 5k burst last week. Another was that it has something to do with the paint booth fire. Thoughts? | soapinmouth | 2018-07-05 23:54:12 | 23 | e1v45m2 | Any AWD US customers receive a VIN yet? | amdizack | 2018-07-06 00:27:32 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
hd1e48 | Camera captured the moment a guy pushed grocery shopping cart to my rear bumper. | You know how lazy people just left the shopping cart behind there cars instead of returning back. It all happened when I was shopping in the Whole Foods. (My car was back in the the parking spot) When I return I unloaded everything to the front. Normally I don t check the Sentra recordings. But somehow I checked and noticed a tipped over shopping card was behind my car. I immediately went to check and found big green paint scratch and dent on the rear bumper. The sentry video was clearly recorded he pushed away a shopping cart because it was blocked his walking path. He never bothered to check the damage on my car. I was very upset how could I find this guy?!?!? Asking for Whole Foods to provide surveillance video? Suddenly I noticed the exact same guy was walking behind my car with grocery in his hand. I quickly followed him to his car and confront him before he drove away. Me—Dude you just pushed a cart into my rear number. Him—what? Me— want me repeat again? Him— how do you that s me? Me— my car is smart enough to to record people like you. Then I invited him to watch the video clip. He offered me to buy touch up pens. I refused and requested for him personal info. He did not have insurance info with him but I took pic of him DL and got him phone number and license plate. Already reported to my auto insurance. But I do have a question: the damage was not directly caused by other car how does insurance handle this type of situation? I text him and asked for insurance info never replied. Should I report this to police? Location: San Jose CA | superpanjy | 2020-06-21 05:26:18 | 32 | fvihjvu | Keep the footage and if he doesn t respond go to the police with a *COPY* of the footage on a USB drive you don t need back. Granted if they have any sort of information security policy they ll ask you to email it or something instead of sticking strange USB sticks into their computers but whatever. | run-the-joules | 2020-06-21 05:35:58 | 31 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
w0k3s0 | Camp Mode on Big Sur CA | Hello my spouse and I are planning a 3-day weekend trip before Fall to Big Sur CA from LA. We re not very experienced at camping (closest is glamping at Autocamp) but we d like to stay overnight using the MYP s Camp Mode at a campground or a nearby charging station. I ve searched that there s only 1 supercharger at Big Sur and the next is on Monterey. Kirk Creek seems to be the spot but it s booked until winter. Any tips on where to stay? Worst case is we book a hotel in Monterey but we d really like to use the Camp Mode (bought a sleeping mat and camping gears for this lol) at least 1 night. TLDR: Where can we camp park overnight at Big Sur? Thank you in advance! | marlo_a14 | 2022-07-16 16:11:15 | 25 | igffie1 | I just came back from this trip last week funnily enough. We stayed in the Big Sur Campgrounds where I rented out a spot with water & electrical hookups so that I could charge every night. Amazing drives during the day charging back up for the next day overnight with Camp Mode enabled. It was perfect. Even if you can t get a camp spot with electrical now that there s the SuperCharger in Ventana you will have no range anxiety to worry about. Enjoy your trip! Feel free to DM if you have any more questions. Edit: in addition you may get more responses find other resources on r TeslaLounge r TeslaCamping r ModelY r TeslaModelY | PunkAintDead | 2022-07-16 19:08:05 | 32 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
dezb9k | Camp Site Charging | To those who have changed or stayed at an RV campground what was the process? Did you just pull in and start charging? Did you have to rent a spot? Were you told to fuck off? & #x200B I m planning on doing a Model 3 camping trip sometime this summer with an Exped bed and I ll likely stay at a campground at some point. Also any general advice for camping in a Model 3? EDIT: Well look at that a [general camping advice thread.](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments deltya camping_methods ) Woops. | TheAJGman | 2019-10-08 12:33:05 | 44 | f305u9i | I have camped at RV sites 10+ times in my Model 3 at this point. You will definitely need to call ahead and pay for a spot. The staff has always been very accommodating to me and some have even given me discounts since I only have a car and not a big RV. You will only need a smaller pull-in site as opposed to a bigger RV pull-through spot. The RV parks I have stayed at have charged me anywhere from $20 - $35 per night. If you arrive near empty and can get a full charge while you re there it can be worth around $15 if comparing to the cost of Supercharging which means your stay will actually cost you more like $5 - $20 when factoring in the free charge. You will want a 50 amp site which uses the [Tesla NEMA 14-50 adapter](https: www.tesla.com ns_videos commerce content dam tesla CAR_ACCESSORIES MODEL_3 CHARGING_ADAPTERS 14-50_individual_1099344-00-C_0.png) (Tesla adapters are available on their [website](https: shop.tesla.com product gen-2-nema-adapters) for $35 ea). This will charge your car at 7.7 kW (32A UMC max \* 240V) or about 32 mi hr. I have also stayed at sites that only have 30 amp outlets which works in a pinch but is much slower. 30 amp outlets at RV parks are called TT-30 outlets and they not only have less amps but also half the voltage (120V) of the NEMA 14-50 outlets (240V). Tesla does not make an adapter for these outlets but I made my own [TT-30 adapter](http: carcharging.us images hmatt-30-small.gif) for about $30 using these [DIY instructions](http: carcharging.us adapt home-made-adapters.php). For this setup you have to plug your Tesla NEMA 14-50 adapter into the TT-30 adapter then dial your amperage down to 24 amps (80% of 30) in the car. This will charge your car at 2.9 kW (24A \* 120V) or about 12 mi hr. Lastly if you plan on staying for a few nights and not driving much you may be able to get away with a tent site with just a standard 15 amp 120V outlet for cheaper. Using the standard [Tesla NEMA 5-15 adapter](https: www.tesla.com ns_videos commerce content dam tesla CAR_ACCESSORIES MODEL_3 CHARGING_ADAPTERS 5-15_1099345-00-C_0.png) this will charge your car at 1.4 kW (12A \* 120V) or about 6 mi hr. However most 120V outlets at campgrounds are actually [20 amp outlets](https: images.homedepot-static.com productImages 8144023c-a24a-402b-bf9c-a08cb8370718 svn white-leviton-electrical-outlets-receptacles-r62-cbr20-00w-64_1000.jpg) in which case you can use a [Tesla NEMA 5-20 adapter](https: www.tesla.com ns_videos commerce content dam tesla CAR_ACCESSORIES MODEL_3 CHARGING_ADAPTERS 5-20_individual_1104932-00-B_0.png). This will charge your car at 1.9 kW (16A \* 120V) or about 8 mi hr. Oh and if you are sleeping in your car be sure to set climate to Keep Climate On (uses roughly 1 kW or 4 mi hr in moderate climates) and make sure you keep the Bluetooth on your phone turned on if you lock the doors. I once put my phone in airplane mode when I was sleeping in my car with the doors locked and then when I opened the door to use the bathroom in the middle of the night my car alarm went off probably waking up everyone in the campground :- **EDIT:** As others have mentioned if you are plugging into a [NEMA 5-15 outlet](https: tech90.com wp-content uploads 2016 05 nema5-15-electrical-outlet.jpg) (standard household outlet) and the cicuit is on a 20 amp breaker DO NOT assume that the outlet receptical is rated to handle 20 amps. You should assume the outlet is rated for 15 amps unless the recepticle is 20 amp style with the sideways T [like this](https: images.homedepot-static.com productImages 8144023c-a24a-402b-bf9c-a08cb8370718 svn white-leviton-electrical-outlets-receptacles-r62-cbr20-00w-64_1000.jpg). The following suggestion involves using an adapter to pull 20 amps from a 15 amp style outlet but should only be done if you know for sure that both the breaker AND the outlet receptical are rated for 20 amps: **DO AT YOUR OWN RISK (see edit above):** If the outlet is a regular 15 amp style but the breaker label shows 20 amps you can still use the Tesla NEMA 5-20 adapter but you ll need to buy this [15 to 20 amp adapter](https: www.amazon.com Adapter-Listed-1-Foot-Household-T-Blade dp B07QVX868F ref=sr_1_10?keywords=nema+5-15+to+5-20& qid=1570547790& sr=8-10) for about $10. | brandude87 | 2019-10-08 15:04:44 | 53 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
k4c2kj | Camp mode now blanks the screensaver after a few minutes. Version 2020.44.25 | Went car camping this weekend and was prepared to throw a tshirt over the screen because although the screensaver showing the campsite with the fire roaring is nice it s also bright! But after a few minutes it went to a blank screen except for the text Camp Mode in the middle. | thekillakeys | 2020-12-01 02:58:38 | 104 | ge82phx | I noticed this when I went camping a few weekends ago too. I have no idea when this was changed but it was definitely prior to 44.25. ETA: I don t remember all of the ambient lighting staying on during Camp Mode before though. All of the switches stayed lit making it easier to open the door in the dark. Was it always this way? | TWANGnBANG | 2020-12-01 03:32:50 | 33 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
ep0kqs | Campaign to Improve Spotify Experience | The in-car Spotify app has some major shortfalls. Please vote for this to on teslaideas.ideascale.com to help get some visibility! [https: teslaideas.ideascale.com a dtd Improve-Spotify 388557-46665?submitted=1](https: teslaideas.ideascale.com a dtd Improve-Spotify 388557-46665?submitted=1) TL DR Campaign to get UI improvements and streaming bitrate increase for in-car Spotify app. | allegory_corey | 2020-01-15 10:21:12 | 146 | fegbr3o | Missing gapless playback option every day. It works when using your phone as a Spotify remote via the app but not from playback on the MCU itself. Annoying af. | Rawbowke | 2020-01-15 11:10:55 | 32 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
8pfu6q | Camper mode for the model 3 is here! | Apparently we now have camper mode on the model 3. You have to set your temperature using the phone app and the heat temperature will stay at the degrees set until it hits 20% battery! Happy camping! | dellfanboy | 2018-06-08 01:25:12 | 126 | e0awos1 | Cool! I noticed this the other day while I was plugged in I ran the a c from the app for several hours to keep some medicine cool. I thought it was strange it did not turn off after a half hour. | the_jalapeno | 2018-06-08 01:31:27 | 33 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
86dfj4 | Camper mode gone insane after latest update | 2018.10.4 no longer respects the custom fan settings for always on climate. Boosts to 10 when the car turns off? Anyone else notice this? | LeakyFish | 2018-03-22 17:40:52 | 19 | dw4etzq | Did you report it to Tesla yet? I m sure the team would like to know. | allhands | 2018-03-22 19:56:20 | 9 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
bdgf2e | Camping Model 3 part 3 - Long. | Telsa Camping Trip Highlight Topics: Short version Flooded seat Towing Air vents Street lights Blackout Charging and Idle fees Short version paragraph. We completed the Tesla camping mode round trip of \~1500 miles and she s still married to me! The mattress worked great pics of the mattress are in Camping Model 3 part 2 post. We stayed at a State Park and also Private campground for 1 night each. The trip used about 10 supercharging stops. The campgrounds provided 50amp service at the campsite and used the charger and adapter that comes with the car. You use your four prong adapter that comes with the Tesla. FYI – it only charges at around 25 miles per hour. It was really fast to set up and tear down the car at the campground probably less than 5 minutes. One morning it rained on us as we went to pack up. My wife determined she could remain in the car and fold the mattress up and store it and put the seats back up without exiting the car. That was an unknown we discovered. Seeing the mattress is memory foam you don t want it getting wet. Lessons learned for any of you wanting to take on the adventure. Flooded Seats. First make sure the plug on your cooler is closed all the way. Seeing it was sitting on the back seat so she could reach it while we were driving. When we stopped at a supercharger I went to get something out of it and noticed the waterproof blanket underneath it was wet. Of course when I went to move the blanket the water all poured onto the seats flooding them. Good news apparently they are waterproof too and the two little swimming pools that formed in the seats were easily mopped up with paper towels and the seats dried really fast. No harm done. Whew. Towing. Make sure you turn on Sentry Mode when you depart your car. We were stopped for dessert in a college town during a college event and had a rude awakening. 15 minutes in the message app says Sentry Mode Activated followed by Alarm Activated. I run to the car to find a tow truck hooked up to it. Turns out only half the parking lot was for the restaurant parking the side I was on was not. Pay the man his due else wave bye-bye to your car which is your current home. So bottom line turn Sentry on every time you leave the car. It should be defaulted to turn on every time you depart the car so you have peace of mind. Air Vents. You may want to set up the temperature in camping mode and orient the vents before repositioning the front seats. Camping mode works like a charm and the car does not get all fogged up and remains dry inside. The reason for repositioning the vents is the air will blow on your head and find any blanket openings around your head and blow underneath the blanket. The 2nd night I put the vents on floor mode but sadly I can t determine if it worked see Campsite charging below. Maybe somebody on the site can advise on setting camping mode to floor vents and how well it works. Street lights at campsite. We did not expect to find street lights around the campground when we pulled into our campsite. Light poured in all the windows. Not sure what you could do about that you d have to cover every window and then you d probably feel like you were sleeping in a coffin. When you re tired from driving all day you fall asleep pretty quick and the light isn t an issue. When you book your campsite check and see if there are any overhead lights nearby. Blackout. The screen decided to go black on the highway. No warning or messages or sounds appeared on the screen the screen just went black. I continued driving thinking it was rebooting itself after a bit I realized it was not the case. I did a manual reboot with the two steering wheel buttons while I continued driving it didn t work. I hit the blinker to head for the shoulder the blinker didn t work. I hit the emergency button that didn t work either. I quickly moved to the shoulder and did a hard reboot using brake pedal too. The screen started up twice (Tesla logo appeared) and on the second one it came back up. Once I had most of the features working I continued on my way as system continued coming back on line. Traffic music and probably some other items take longer to load which I didn t need to continue driving. Bottom line even when system goes down steering brakes and drive train continue functioning. I m not sure if the lights remain on seeing it was daytime but the blinkers and emergency s do not. Having either available while on shoulder of highway would have been nice... Charging at Superchargers this has been covered in depth. Just watch your app in event it stops charging during the charging sessions before it has completed this happened twice at different superchargers. I also noticed if the route is still up on the map it will stop once it has enough charge to continue. Not sure if others are seeing this behavior. I like a little more charge than what it recommends. The charge it says you need to make it to your next stop is not always right and you could get into some difficulty. I use both A Better Route Planner and the Tesla App. When energy graph in Tesla card showed it getting at or below 10% estimate at arrival I clicked on the Supercharger Icon on map and found the closest one along the way and rerouted to it once I was certain I wasn t going to make it. That is something Tesla needs to do. If it shows you are not going to make it to the charger it is routing you too it should automatically divert you to another one along the way. I held out as long as I could before I manually rerouted to the nearby charger I was hoping it would do it but nope just said to keep dropping speed. Highway speed was 70mph I was driving between 70mph and 75mph. It was so red on the graph I would have to had driven at 5mph to have reached the charger it picked if I even made it that far. Hopefully Tesla will fix it seeing the car has all the telemetry data from the past 8hrs of driving. Another supercharging observation from a North Easterner. Now that weather has warmed I notice the fans kick on to cool the battery as it gets closer to full. Never experienced that before. It was interesting listening to the fans they get going pretty good there. You definitely know they are running it takes you a moment to try to figure out what is making that noise plus the slight vibration you can feel in steering wheel. Campsite charging – The first night we woke in the morning to a nice dry car interior and fully charged battery. On the 2nd night the 50amp service at the other campsite the circuit breaker tripped during the night and we woke to same charge as when we went to sleep (58 miles). Camping mode shuts off at less then 60 miles remaining. Windows were all fogged up inside our first indicator something was amiss. Not sure what you can do about it seeing you re asleep when it happens. Obviously the tesla message on app wasn t loud enough to wake me or my wife. There was a supercharger a couple miles down the road from campground so not a big deal. I had my morning coffee there while it charged. The worst case we could ve remained there for several hours charging if there were no superchargers withing 30 miles. Idle fees. Our daughter met us at one of the superchargers near her and took us to breakfast while it charged. I received a message on the app the car had finished charging and idle fees would start. When we got back from breakfast and I unhooked from charger I received an email with the fees. Boy they are quick with that one. Luckily they zeroed them out seeing I was only car at the charger so no harm done. It has never been a busy charger. Anyhow be aware they are serious about it kind of like the towing man…. Camping in the car with two adults was fine. We will definitely be doing this more often when we travel. $30-$35 for a night and a full charge when you wake up. Plus you have the shower and bathroom facilities of the campground. If you wanted to use it as an actual camper it would work you just need to bring your camping and cooking utilities. For us it was just an overnight stop in rte to a destination. Superchargers are pretty much everywhere along the main highways so that is not an issue. Are the superchargers as ubiquitous as gas stations no do they need to be for this trip no. Figure on 2 ½ to 3 hrs of driving before recharging with a model 3 long range battery all wheel drive 19 wheels. There s plenty of superchargers available over these distances times. Nav on Autopilot (NoA) was used about 98% of the time. Worked great except when approaching trucks in adjacent lane would start braking for no reason. You never know when it would do it it likes this truck doesn t like this one. Brakes this time doesn t brake next time I couldn t figure it out. It would move in and out of NoA and Autopilot automatically depending on the rain frequency. When rain was heavy or road mist from cars was heavy you get a message on the screen and it reverts to Autopilot. As conditions improve it reverts back to NoA. It still gets confused on certain off ramp beginning lanes and also on ramp lanes. The off ramps were pretty bad like a drunk driver swaying to and fro not able to make up its mine and sometimes rather forcefully. This happened when we were not exiting we were just passing the off ramps. Don t like getting jerked around. The on ramps it still drifts to the right trying to center itself between the two. Autolane change – Ha that needs some serious work tried to take us out at one point. That s when we went back to manual. Even manual it has no intel on speed of adjacent lanes you re passing cars in that lane and it is telling you to go over ugh NO! So for you adventurous ones get out there and give it a try utilizing camping mode and campgrounds. It is a lot easier than dragging the tent out and setting up and tearing down. Plus you don t have to deal with all that condensation build up in the tent and packing away wet gear. Only takes about 5mins to setup your car. Now get out there and have some fun. Go adventuring Tesla style. | GoTesla | 2019-04-15 14:10:41 | 38 | ekxwi6z | Tow notification mode! Love it. | mjezzi | 2019-04-15 14:16:34 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8oawz6 | Camping in Model S - dealing with the bump from the seat fold. | Last night I did my first try at camping in the back of a Model S. I ve got a 4 mattress and my tests on an actual flat surface with it proved to be comfortable enough but in practice last night I was miserable. The problem? The seats may fold flat but they re not level with the rest of the trunk hatch area. That height difference was a big source of discomfort. What do you Tesla campers do to deal with that? | stacecom | 2018-06-03 19:18:19 | 23 | e020caw | An air mattress will completely cover that bump | navinsiri | 2018-06-03 19:57:41 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
c2fd19 | Camping in a Car question | If you decide to sleep in your Tesla what place do you choose for parking to not get bothered? *Was just woken up by 2 plaza securities who decided to check if there everything is fine or not and why there s a guy sleeping in a car 🤷♂️* *meeting 250 character reqirement meeting 250 character reqirement meeting 250 character reqirement meeting 250 character reqirement* | misteriousm | 2019-06-19 10:26:40 | 21 | erjq8ow | I raised the same question one year ago. It s illegal in most cities and private parking lots. Public-owned place are generally more acceptable. Best choices are campgrounds. They can be free or for-fee and most importantly they are safer than middle-of-nowhere. Use the app “RV Parky” to find out. | kuangjian2011 | 2019-06-19 11:12:53 | 19 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
g6dt2k | Camping in a Model Y | My partner and I are going to be driving my Model Y from my place in the Bay Area to his place in Washington (Came home to pick up my Model Y. Planning on sheltering in place in Washington.) and we re going to try camping in the back during the trip. Based on reviews from campers using the Model 3 I decided to pick up an Exped Megamat Duo 10M as the mattress. I m happy to report that it fits with room to spare (though it does fit a little snugly around the wheel wells). The USB-C ports should be easily accessible for charging smartphones and I can t wait to see the view of the stars through that panoramic roof. Edit: I did not move the driver or passenger seat from standard driving positions to fit the mattress in so we ll have more headroom available than the photo shows. [Mattress Fitment](https: i.imgur.com u8Mmoja.jpg) | ScatterplotDog | 2020-04-23 01:30:35 | 280 | fo98dag | If you can keep good track of the range cost of camping (internal temp external temp time spent etc.). It ll be especially interesting to see how efficient the model Y heat pump is in that scenario and I m sure a lot of folks here would appreciate that data. I m planning on doing the same at some point but I ve got no idea how much battery I need to camp in the car. Have a great time | ec20 | 2020-04-23 03:35:26 | 101 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bmp17x | Camping in your Model 3 with the EXPED MegaMat 10 Duo. | I recently picked up the EXPED MegaMat 10 Duo as I m looking to do some camping in the car this coming summer. Initially I was a bit worried about the size of the mattress because it seemed like it would be too big for the trunk. The 10 Duo is a nearly perfect fit even though it s 41” wide and the Model 3 trunk is 37” wide at it s narrowest. Turns out that s not a problem at all because you can slightly under-inflate the mattress and get it into position and then pump up the rest with the included hand pump. Here are pictures https: m.imgur.com a WqfmaQ3 Fitting: - I found the mattress to fit very well as it fully fills out the entire trunk space. The benefit over other mattresses is that this one is slightly less than 4” thick so it helps you saves some precious vertical space. Pictures in the above album should give a good idea to the fit. It should be noted that I have the Tesla branded trunk liner installed as well. Not that this adds much bulk to the trunk lining - just wanted to point that out. - Also these pictures were taken without the bank bunk of seats removed. From what I ve seen that will allow the mattress to sit fully flat and may increase the amount of clearance between the lip slightly. If I were planning on doing a couple days of car camping and didn t need to transport people in the back I would definitely take those seats cushions out ahead of time. - When folded up and stowed in the included bag the mattress will fit in the sub trunk and may even fit in the frunk (did not test this). Comfort: - I slept on this mattress instead of my Tempurpedic bed last night to test out the comfort. No I didn t test it in the car but I found it to be quite comfortable when set up on the floor in the guest bedroom. Before buying the mattress I read reviews of people claiming the 10 Duo was more comfortable than their mattress at home. That s not the case for me but my current mattress also costs 10-15x as much as this air mattress. If my Tempurpedic is a 10 10 for comfort then I d give this Duo an 8.5 10. It s by far the best air mattress I ve ever slept on. It ll be a dream for car camping or even quite passable for guests. - The ultimate test of an air mattress overnight is how much air has escaped in the past 8 hours. I can happily report that very little air seems to have gotten out during my sleeping test. Price: - It s not inexpensive as air mattresses go ($370) but I think it will be well worth it. I can definitely see the benefit of being able to sleep in total comfort with the AC on while camping this summer if things get too humid at night or it s raining. Overall I would recommend this to anyone who would want to do some car camping in the Model 3 this year. | Tesla_Model_Y | 2019-05-09 20:45:45 | 58 | emyg5ow | Thanks for this! ([reference comment](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments bml1ti keep_climate_on_for_8_hrs_test_results_also emy6cj2?utm_source=share& utm_medium=web2x)) | TrevCostales | 2019-05-09 21:08:09 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
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