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6tbgxi | Are more model 3s getting shipped to customers? | A week has passed and shouldn t another 30-50 model 3s be arriving in customer hands. Do we have any confirmation that this has occurred and if not should we be worried? | mbhnyc | 2017-08-12 22:36:22 | 14 | dljcq11 | Deliveries seem to be ongoing. | run-the-joules | 2017-08-12 22:39:31 | 23 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
626w7r | Are my calculations for affording the Model 3 accurate? | I realize that a lot of this is speculation since all I really have to work with is the 35k starting price and what features cost for the model S. I am a new college grad about 3 months into my job. I make a pretty decent starting salary at 55k a year. I just reserved my Model 3 on March 10 and have begun saving monthly for a down payment. I plan to save at least 600 a month although I should be able to save at least 750-800 most months. With the time frame of when the car will be released I estimate that I should have at least 15k to give as a down payment and with the trade in of my current car a 2011 Camaro I should have at least 20k total to pay for the car. Using a car payment calculator for the rest I have an estimated monthly payment of anywhere between 450-500 dollars for 5 or 6 years. All I m really looking for is if this is well thought out and if it s prudent to go for this. I get money taken automatically for a 401k so saving for retirement is happening regardless. There will be EV chargers at my workplace in Q2 2018 which was a main factor in my decision to reserve (I live in an apartment so charging was my main issue). I realize insurance will be more but I should have room in my budget for an increase there. Just looking for another opinion on this. Thanks everyone | rlv28 | 2017-03-29 14:19:55 | 17 | dfk7lei | Hey OP I have made several posts about this subject so I ll chime in. - [Here s a budgeting guide I made for new professionals like yourself.](http: imgur.com a pHZQr) - [Here is my personal experience with surviving the first years after college.](http: blog.credit.com 2016 04 how-an-aeronautical-engineer-manages-his-money-141615 ) I recommend you wait a few years before making such a significant purchase as a $35K+ car. Your starting salary may make it appear affordable but it s definitely not a prudent financial decision to put 20-25% of your after-tax income towards a car. That is a significant proportion of your newly-achieved paycheck to expose in a depreciating liability especially this early in your career and especially if you have student loan debt left over from college. Even if you have a savings account and you are contributing to your retirement you are at risk of falling into a classic consumer culture trap that could have significant implications on your future if you don t play it cool and keep a low profile for the first few years of your career by avoiding today s temptation. Remember there is PLENTY OF TIME to have the cool car and live the good life as an independent and professional dude on the open road to destiny (it s called your 30 s). Future you is *guaranteed* not to regret saving that money and you could have 10X the net worth of your peers in a few years simply by not making any rookie mistakes today and keeping that cash on standby. If I were you I would wait it out for a few years to see how Tesla s autonomy gets better and to see how Tesla s riding sharing network performs. And if you still insist on buying a Tesla after 2020 strike when the technology is mature not today. There is nothing to be gained for you to own a Model 3 this early in your career aside from superficial and quickly fleeting glory. | WhiskeySauer | 2017-03-29 15:07:41 | 44 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4ik9rp | Are my seat coolers in my X broken... | ...or do they just not work very well. Last fall I was on a vacation in Atlanta where I rented a Lincoln which happened to have seat coolers. It. Was. Awesome. I got quite excited as I knew my X came equipped with cooling seats but... I d be hard-pressed to say that the Model X seats have any measurable effect. Is this a known issue or do I need to add cooling seats to the list of other issues I m having? Are we taking bets or whether or not a simple reddit query will lead to a Forbes article saying something click-baity? < Eyeroll > | imdubious | 2016-05-09 16:12:30 | 19 | d2yt26h | I ve noticed that ours aren t as strong as the ones in our Yukon. That said I definitely notice when they re on. | phbarnhart | 2016-05-09 17:19:15 | 9 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
40se6k | Are newer Homelink doors aware of open closed state? | I know that most of these garage door systems have one button but I m wondering if there are types of Homelink systems that have separate open close commands and if the Tesla can use them? (So that if you arrive home with the door already open it doesn t close it.) | patniemeyer | 2016-01-13 15:07:06 | 15 | cywrgrp | The unit itself knows but the remote and button the wall just sends a go signal in my experience. The control logic is handled by the unit. There are probably units out there that accept individual open closed commands. Also there are many solutions now to interface your door with the Internet. Garageio.com is one of them | AGM76 | 2016-01-13 16:45:26 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5ia02y | Are newer Tesla vehicles still having toll transponder issues? | Hearing mixed info on installing a toll road transponder. Some say install up by the mirror and it will work. Some say I need an external unit that has to be installed by a service center or easily pop off the nose cone. It took me an hour to get my front license plate off so easily popping off my nose cone doesn t sound like something I want to get into. Thanks | Ludachris9000 | 2016-12-14 11:01:42 | 18 | db6ix2b | Hello you didn t list what model or year you have so I ll try to cover both. Older versions with the nose cone you have to mount it either in the nose cone or there is a spot that is covered by black dots to the right of the rear view mirror. Half of my transponder was in the black area and the other half was on the clear section which meant only one suction cups had a good seal. I have a 2014 model nose cone. Newer nose cone and face lifted version there is a small area to the right of the rear view mirror so the transponder has a spot. Stare at that area long enough and you can see where the diffference of the metallic shielding is and is not. Let me know if you need a pic. | HarleyDS | 2016-12-14 11:16:33 | 9 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
wdmq39 | Are newer model 3 s any quieter? | People who ve had both an other m3 and a new one are the newer ones any quieter than than old ones? My 2019 has some loud road noise. | Lumpynutt | 2022-08-01 17:09:57 | 181 | iijfkvv | I can t compare 3 to 3 but I can say moving from the 2019 Model 3 to a 2022 Model Y came with a significant change in road noise. The new Y is a lot quieter. Less road noise and far less internal little squeaks and vibrations. I don t know if that s because it s a Y or because manufacturing has had even more time to mature or what. But it was definitely an appreciable difference. | Full_Stall_Indicator | 2022-08-01 18:29:34 | 200 | Tesla Model 3 Audio Experience |
6s0gml | Are others getting a negative sentiment about Tesla s blackout of the specs of the Model 3? | There s EPA anecdotes of batteries with a lower specific energy maybe NMC batteries EPA docs of a new permanent magnet motor to the chagrin of rare-earth opponents extrapolation of the battery capacity so on and on. When the Model S was released it was a refreshingly open attitude. They were open about the technical details and lauded the new technology for the early adopters to savor. There was an open effort to educate the public. Tesla even open sourced many patents. Now there feels like an executive or corporatism effort to be intentionally cloudy on the technology beneath the Model 3. You only do that when there s something negative or something exceptionally positive and Elon is never one to refrain from being excited and forthcoming with new tech. I m worried that the sentiment might be the former. Tesla needs to communicate something to the technology inclined base the early adopters who get the inner workings of the Model S and also for the new owners the digital and technical generation who want to know and care to know. This is after all about the separation from fossil age technology. Come on Tesla don t insult our intelligence. | Derfein | 2017-08-06 19:43:53 | 26 | dl937sy | Hi. I have checked all the data including weight numbers and drag coefficient Tesla released on the [presskit web page](https: www.tesla.com presskit) as well as the [EPA document](https: www3.epa.gov otaq datafiles CSI-HTSLV00.0L13.PDF) discovered today. I don t know all the things they might prefer not to advertise but I think I ve found two of them: 1. Based on my calculation the Model 3 standard battery version has 55 kWh capacity and it should have 227 miles EPA rated range but Tesla is under reporting it as 220 mi. This is allowed under EPA rules. It seems to be a marketing tactic. 2. The Model 3 long range pack is 80 kWh and usable capacity is 78.3 kWh (source: [page 6 footer](https: www3.epa.gov otaq datafiles CSI-HTSLV00.0L13.PDF)). This is more than the usable capacity of the Model S 85 85D P85D. Those have 77.5 kWh usable capacity ([source](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 1865416 )). At that time Tesla was over advertising battery pack sizes. This problem only affected the 85 and 90 kWh packs. Both of these packs have less than advertised capacity. Tesla later corrected this problem with the 75 and 100 kWh pack. Tesla doesn t want to remind people that the Model 3 LR has more battery capacity than the 75 and 85 kWh Model S versions. That seems to be the reason why they are not using the Model 3 80 name. | Teslike | 2017-08-06 19:52:59 | 41 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
2561gc | Are people excited for Falcon wing doors? | Musk said the company is working hard to make sure they are useful and not just a gimmick.. Is the public ready for such a drastic change in doors? | thatshirtman | 2014-05-09 23:02:24 | 31 | che3r4d | The only thing that concerns me is that you can t have a roof rack with them. For an suv xuv that s a little odd. | sheravi | 2014-05-10 00:42:40 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
65dusn | Are repair shops still gouging? | I recently wrecked and essentially the panel above the driver side front wheel was peeled off and the driver door won t close. I was stunned to see that the estimate was only $4k. Has the initial gold rush by repair shops dried up or is this just the calm before the storm once the shop starts looking more closely at the damage? | bbmmpp | 2017-04-14 17:21:37 | 21 | dg9fy11 | Unfortunately that s a shop by shop thing. Some places will always gouge others will do a proper estimate and quote you a fair price. | dirtyfries | 2017-04-14 17:23:01 | 13 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
64d16d | Are roller coasters less fun after experiencing acceleration in the fastest Teslas? | And how does it compare to a roller coaster generally? | twinbee | 2017-04-09 13:21:46 | 18 | dg16v0n | I haven t been on one since getting my P85. Now I m curious cuz I call this thing my personal roller coaster all the time | tuba_man | 2017-04-09 13:51:38 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ixao5g | Are supercharger completion dates accurate? | Hell everyone! I have a supercharger location near my workplace that according to the Tesla website it will be done in 2020. For those who have kept up with superchargers near you do you think it ll be done by the end of the year? I haven t had the chance to check it out since I ve moved an hour away from my office and having a supercharger by work would be great as I ll be returning to the office sometime next year. Thanks! | Bubblegum_99 | 2020-09-21 22:15:08 | 39 | g65mnq9 | The map on Tesla s site? Pure fiction. Lots of them have had Coming by end of 20xx rolled over to the next year running on several years now. Use this site [https: supercharge.info map](https: supercharge.info map) that runs on crowd sourced data. EDIT: For clarity the locations with blue dots have had some level of public permitting application found. The orange cones denote locations where some sort of physical construction has started at the site. Which location is it? | BootFlop | 2020-09-21 22:20:09 | 71 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
gcgr6v | Are tesla roadsters still worth it | I love love love tesla roadsters. Are they still worth it? Whats the service like? Do they perform well? How much does maintenance cost? | jbean54 | 2020-05-03 00:01:52 | 20 | fpbhlpv | Maintenance and service are not easy nor cheap. You worry that something like the PEM fails and not only are they not made anymore and hard to fix it ll cost you $5k-$10k+. That being said they are extremely fun fast and very different compared to the S X 3 because you just feel the raw power. Traction control is easy disabled with a button. Even with it on you ll get tire squeal. You ll also need to make sure you can do some advanced yoga to get in and out. But damn they are awesome and I regret selling mine. | dieabetic | 2020-05-03 01:43:17 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
76sx4n | Are the 0-60 times for the model 3 based on the 18 or 19 inch wheels. | We ve heard that the aero wheels assist with adding range. What is known about the wheel size and what it means for acceleration? | piglibrarian | 2017-10-16 19:26:26 | 13 | dogivpb | does it really matter in real world driving? you probably wont notice a difference.. | tdiono | 2017-10-16 20:25:04 | 7 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
gtdext | Are the Gemini wheels considered aero wheels ? | I m configuring my Model Y (yay!!) and trying to decide on wheels. I really like the look of the upgraded induction wheels but highway efficiency range is very important to me. Do we actually know that the Gemini wheels are more aero than the induction? I know that there have been tests of the Model 3 s aero wheels and they actually show a pretty significant benefit. | OompaOrangeFace | 2020-05-30 12:20:33 | 64 | fsavvd9 | Slightly related: I know smaller wheels ~~offer better efficiency~~ allow you to travel farther on the same amount of charge compared to larger wheels (all other conditions being identical) but are there any functional advantages that larger wheels have? I know some people like the aesthetics better but those aside what would be a reason to prefer larger wheels? EDIT: More specific wording thanks to u jedi2155 | TheAce0 | 2020-05-30 12:47:02 | 17 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
64qu0f | Are the Model 3 pre-orders really that impressive and is there any indication it will be consistent? | I know there is a lot of talk about demand and pre-orders but is 375K pre-orders really that much when you consider that no other company actually needs to bother with pre-orders due to capacity and dealer orders? How many pre-orders would Toyota have if they said the only way you can buy a Toyota next year is to pre-order? People generally know when they re going to buy their next car so surely they d be researching and pre-ordering their choice if that was the only way norm. Dealers are essentially pre-ordering millions of cars for people. Would you pre-order a Model 3 if they said you could walk in to any dealer and get one same day within a month or two of launch? Tesla s pre-orders seem big because they re telling you that it s the only way you ll get one and naturally it s refundable so you might as well just reserve one in the event you actually might want one. Same goes for every product or company with large capacity. Imagine how many pre-orders Apple would get if they said it was the only way to get a new iPhone. 100M? 150M? Secondly is there any indication that there will be demand like this every single year? Cars are expensive long-term purchases. I m not totally convinced that there are another 375K 400K 500K buyers ready to go within 12 months. | noone111111 | 2017-04-11 13:34:04 | 18 | dg49tfj | Uh no I would not be pre-ordering a Toyota or a VW or a BMW. In fact you can but does anybody see lines going around the block? Everyone is ready for a mid-market long range daily-driver EV that doesn t look like a weirdmobile. The Model 3 will be a tsunami when production starts and the fossil car industry won t realize what just happened. I might add that dealers are also screwing it up by requesting hybrids over EVs. | ShaqLuvsTesla | 2017-04-11 13:49:37 | 39 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6z94tz | Are there Model 3 secrets we don t yet know? | This tweet from an early owner claims that he can t talk about his model 3 because of a nondisclosure agreement. Are there major features or aspects of the Model 3 we still don t know? What would the point of an NDA be? https: twitter.com Jason status 906542220869640192 | alxndrwbb | 2017-09-10 16:18:02 | 49 | dmtfdkq | Yeah. Basically everything really. We don t know how the trunk opens from outside. We don t know how the frunk opens. We don t know how close the phone needs to be to do those things. We don t know what all the app can control period. AFAIK we don t have a definitive answer on an underneath port for charging but it isn t looking good. (We know there s only one input to the battery but that doesn t mean two ports can t feed one input.) We don t know what the real ranges of the cars are and what is just the aero wheels. We don t know what the camera in the car is for. We ve never seen the scroll wheels on the steering wheel do anything but move the mirrors and wheel itself. We don t know what voice commands there are. You name it it s probably just a best guess. Even the new mobile connector there s more speculation than concrete info. | vita10gy | 2017-09-10 16:30:56 | 87 | Tesla Model Sightings |
8wnrh6 | Are there any aftermarket performance mods for any of the tesla cars? | I ve often wondered about this over the last several years and occasionally even searched youtube for videos about it. I haven t come up with anything. So I m wondering if there is a third party performance market for tesla or even other electric cars? And if not why? It seems to me that these things are ripe for mods. Anyone have any feedback on that? | Jaanold | 2018-07-06 21:11:48 | 14 | e1x1cqd | Do you mean like racing stripes? I think those add about 8% torque and 6% horsepower gains. | loganintx | 2018-07-06 21:52:52 | 43 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
klswkx | Are there any articles regarding battery recycling at scale (that it is actually happening) or proof that there are facilities or plans for this? | All I can find are articles about JB starting a company that is going to try to do this or that the plant in Nevada could do this. But I can t find anything out about a real plan where the packs will go how much content can be recycled how toxic or not it is etc. It seems as though people assume this will be a solved problem but I am curious about the end of life of all the battery packs. Thanks for any insights articles! | plcyoulater | 2020-12-28 15:52:12 | 14 | gharapu | There are a few companies there is an episode on FullyCharged YouTube channel about one. Yet today there is no scale yet as 1) the batteries last too long in the car 2) if the car gets wrecked the batteries are salvaged and reused for ICE conversions or home storage Umicore is global company doing a lot of recycling of batteries but most today ate the phone laptop batteries. Those are engineered for short lifetime and thus there is a huge scale for those already. | The0ne_andMany | 2020-12-28 16:18:00 | 8 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
8hjb9b | Are there any known issues with the P85+ models. I see a used one with 18k miles for only 42k and I m wondering what s wrong with it. | It has 2 owners and no prior accidents. Thanks. Here s the link for anyone interested: [P85+](https: www.cargurus.com Cars inventorylisting viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=& newSearchFromOverviewPage=true& inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO& entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=m112& entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=& zip=48083& distance=500& searchChanged=true& maxPrice=55000& modelChanged=true& filtersModified=true#listing=199572662) | cjbrigol | 2018-05-06 23:48:14 | 11 | dyk7emi | P85+ is functionally identical to P85 cars it just has the air suspension 21 staggered wheels and performance plus suspension. The P+ suspension has a bit of a cult following if you drive one side by side with a regular P it s hard to want to drive your normal P85 home afterward the P+ is not so tight it hurts to drive but it s a lot more stiff and fun to drive. That car will still have the remainder of the 8 year infinite mile warranty on its battery and motor inverter units. You have no worries there and the + suspension never had any concerns so your only real issues would be with regular out or warranty stuff. Make sure the air suspension is good thseo are pricey to replace and make sure the MCU screen is good no yellowing or boot looping - again a pricey replacement. Nothing else should worry you. Swoop up that car as fast as you can it s something like $20 000 below what they usually go for so if it s not a scam the seller doesn t know what they re sitting on - the Plus was something like $12 000 more than a base P85 and if you can get it free on a cheap P85 you should! | mark-five | 2018-05-07 00:09:15 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
68nn0s | Are there any realistic timelines as to when full autonomy will be complete AND legal? | As the title states I m genuinely curious as to when the full autonomy feature will be available and how far along the laws for autonomous cars have come. I am a model 3 reservation holder and the Tesla Network is a huge reason why I want to purchase a Model 3. It would be great to be able to earn some money while at work or to send my car to pick up a friend nearby. Does anybody have any updates an expected timeline I may have missed? | m1ndweaver | 2017-05-01 18:11:42 | 12 | dgztc0o | Nope! Nothing concrete or even indicative out there. Elon recently estimated full level 5 autonomy in 2 years. | dustwel | 2017-05-01 18:14:54 | 12 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
c74mzx | Are there any trustworthy NEMA 15-40 adapters other than Tesla s? | I have my electrician coming Thursday to install a new 240 for my model 3. Tesla s website shows that they are sold out for the adapter now of course. Lol. Any trustworthy aftermarket ones? Or does anyone have an extra they d like to sell? Thanks! & #x200B PS: Does anyone have any photos of where they keep their mobile plug when they re not using it? I would like to mount it to my house safely but not sure how to go about it. | goodfight10 | 2019-06-29 21:09:04 | 13 | esczmr4 | I think you mean NEMA 14-50 | SpellingJenius | 2019-06-29 21:19:06 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bonk6z | Are there no current inventory model 3s? | I was on my mobile phone trying to find model 3s in inventory in California. I went to the Tesla website and checked for inventory vehicles within 200 miles of the Bay area I checked for inventory vehicles within 200 miles of Orange County I checked for inventory vehicles within 200 miles of San Luis Obispo. Are there no inventory Model 3s available in California at the moment? What is the dang deal? Does anybody know? | Thomb | 2019-05-14 19:45:11 | 10 | eniaiov | Inventory model 3 s go FAST. I got mine from inventory in Denver and within a day all other available cars were sold. Check frequently because they re always adding more about every other day. | bkokes | 2019-05-14 19:49:00 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
lap17a | Are there real negative side effects to various charging methods? | For example people recommend you don t charge you iPhone up to 100% or keep it plugged it at 100% because it damages the battery or people recommend you never let your battery die and always plug it in before it completely depletes. Would these apply to Tesla batteries and are these pieces of advice even real? | FuryOfficial | 2021-02-02 06:05:47 | 16 | glpajcm | ABC: always be charging Whenever your vehicle is parked at home plug it in. Set the max charge to 70-80% and increase it if you need the extra range for a trip | tenuousemphasis | 2021-02-02 06:22:55 | 21 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5hf6k0 | Are they still shipping Model 3 thank you gifts? | Just wondering because I have still not received mine:) | theboy24 | 2016-12-09 17:51:39 | 10 | dazp045 | Here - print your own. https: electrek.files.wordpress.com 2016 06 model-3-poster-e1466343982687.jpg?quality=82& w=1600& h=1000 | dirtyfries | 2016-12-09 17:54:47 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
31wniz | Are updates making you wait to order a Model S? | Tesla s updates (autopilot dual-motor and the end of the 60kwh) have put early adopters in tough positions when it comes to the market value of their Model S. How many people out there are holding off on ordering a Model S for this reason? Also what regrets advice do early adopters have? | aydoaris | 2015-04-08 19:07:44 | 16 | cq5u5ix | As an early adopter (vin: ~8300) i ll tell you what i ve got: two full years of electric driving over 30k miles with 0 emissions and I still have a huge smile on my face every time i hit the accelerator. If you always keep waiting for the next best thing you ll never get anything. | Zixt1 | 2015-04-08 21:52:00 | 44 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5yd8qx | Are we ever getting 8.1? | I love my X and I love Tesla but sometimes the delays are...uh... frustrating. | imdubious | 2017-03-09 05:15:51 | 16 | dep561w | [Tesla is giving development and rollout priority to AP2 vehicles to reach feature parity with AP1.](https: twitter.com elonmusk status 828314321679704066) Which makes sense since AP2 owners had been told to expect feature parity at the end of 2016 but Tesla has been having a little bit of an issue getting that done. So Tesla wants to try and make good on that promise rather than rolling out 8.1 which arguably isn t as critical. We ve kind of learned to take Elon s software rollout estimates with a grain of salt they re usually (almost) always very aggressive schedules. | DDotJ | 2017-03-09 06:00:11 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2ifgaj | Are we going to see an increased battery pack capacity? | If there is going to be a dual motor version of the Model S released this week do you think there is going to be an increase in battery capacity to feed the extra engine? I have read before that Tesla expects a 6% increase in battery efficiency annually and the vehicle was released over two years ago. That means that Tesla should be very close to being able to fit a 100kwh pack into the vehicle using the same dimensions. Any thoughts if this could be part of the something else? | will_shatners_pants | 2014-10-06 07:25:52 | 16 | cl1yij5 | Probably not until the giga factory as the main constraint is the battery supply. Larger batteries mean fewer cars. | MrFlesh | 2014-10-06 16:12:48 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4cgk4z | Are we overestimating the Model 3 store lines? | I keep seeing on this subreddit that there will be thousands of people at stores in line on Thursday morning. When I talked to a Tesla Store employee he mentioned that he thought there would be a thousand of people at his store alone! (Park Meadows Colorado) I really think this is unlikely for a couple of reasons. 1. It is the middle of a Thursday many people have work at 10am when the stores open. 2. Only a relatively few amount people have the money to put down and tied up in a car they haven t even seen yet. 3. It is quite a drive for many people to get to the closest Tesla Store. 4. Few people really know about Tesla and the Model 3 enough to want it. 5. It is really inconvenient to wait for a couple of hours for stores to open. All of these factors come together to make it relatively hard for someone to be in a Tesla Store Thursday at 10am with $1000 in hand to buy a car. Am I seriously underestimating? I would love to hear some counterarguments and discussion. | studiouslurker | 2016-03-29 17:43:13 | 58 | d1hxyzc | In general I think the estimates I ve seen for preorders (whether they re in-store first day or overall before they re finally manufactured) are way too high. Edit: I was wrong. | LouBrown | 2016-03-29 17:48:08 | 49 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
ncv1s2 | Are yearly Navigation Updates the achilles heel for Autopilot? | Firstly apologies for the shakiness and framing of the video. My first attempt at a camera mount attached to the arm rest wasn t the greatest. In the video below note the vehicles on the left and as I approach them the visualisation on the screen shows Autopilot focusing on it by changing to to a darker colour and then slowing down for it as if the vehicle is in front of me. This happens fairly reliably on this stretch of motorway anytime I m in the right lane and passing a vehicle: & #x200B https: reddit.com link ncv1s2 video 7opmbo4m49z61 player My main theory is that this is due to out of date navigation data as this stretch of road up until recently (like a year or two ago) was a single laned road while the motorway was being completed. My assumption is that Autopilot is treating the left lane as an onramp and when it comes across vehicles in it it assumes they re trying to merge into my lane and slows down to let them in. My region hasn t had a navigation update since around this time last year so this might make some sense. If this is the case it s a little disappointing that out of date navigation data can cause Autopilot to be more of a hassle than help. I would assume that this will change as FSD progresses but at the moment it makes it a bit of a nuisance to other drivers on this part of the motorway as they have to slow down and speed up as Autopilot confuses itself - especially the occasions when it decides that it needs to immediately get behind the car in the left lane by dramatically reducing the speed once it s side by side with the other car. It also could be that this is a current bug with Autopilot if others are seeing the same behaviour on well established motorways highways freeways. Alternatively my car could have a fault that needs to be looked at by the Service Centre 🤷🏻♂️ | Matt_NZ | 2021-05-15 09:36:30 | 14 | gy8bcse | Autopilot does this anytime you re overtaking a decently slower car on the left. It s basically trying to call attention to the speed difference between the two in case that car tries to merge into your lane. Totally normal. Was a part of a software update about a year ago. | TeslaJon | 2021-05-15 16:44:31 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
91jjpj | Are you a creeper? | I have it set to creep while my husband does not. Is there a benefit to leaving it off vs. on? | flaresandglares | 2018-07-24 17:39:33 | 22 | e2yku48 | I leave it on. I want to be feathering the brake not gas when I m parking. | Jddssc121 | 2018-07-24 18:41:58 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
37goou | Are you also Tesla Forum or TeslaMotorsClub user or just Tesla Reddit? | Opinions? | P100D | 2015-05-27 14:28:16 | 18 | crmjzn2 | Only reddit. Keeping up on forums takes too much time for me. Reddit keeps a nice pace for me the most relevant news float by my attention at an acceptable rate. | Trezker | 2015-05-27 15:23:44 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6rf6qy | Are you getting a Standard or Long Range Model 3? | Standard - 220 mile range 8 year 100 000 mile battery warranty later delivery Long Range - $9 000 310 mile range 8 year 120 000 mile battery warranty earlier delivery ---- |Vote Button| Poll Options|Current Vote Count| |:-----------:|:------------:|:------------| |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote 66vZtPpO)**|Standard|**33** Votes |**[Vote](http: redditpoll.com vote 20bmTQry)**|Long Range|**63** Votes ---- **Instructions:** * Click Vote to Register Your Vote. ---- **Note:** Vote Count in this post will be updated real time with new data. ---- Make Your Own Poll Here **[redditpoll.com](http: redditpoll.com)**. ---- See live vote count **[here](http: redditpoll.com poll are-you-getting-a-standard-or-long-range-model-3)** | defferoo | 2017-08-03 20:23:53 | 21 | dl4ki8t | Is there I I can t make up my mind and it s consuming everything in my life option? It s so hard... I only need a larger battery like 3x a year which doesn t seem worth $10 000 (after taxes and financing). But getting it ensures a quicker delivery and getting my state s $3 000 tax credit a peppier ride and less anxiety on those 100+ mile days. Also I d suggest signing up for https: www.model3tracker.info . They have over 10 000 people on there and among the 7 000 repsonses that put down a battery 39.9% picked standard 60.1% long range. But this was interpreted from data that may have been put in before the 7 30 reveal and hence before pricing (and mileage) was announced. | rnelsonee | 2017-08-03 20:31:21 | 35 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5unyqg | Are you looking forward to Tesla becoming a mass-market brand? | This question is inspired by discussion in the recent [How many of you were not car people before Tesla?](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5uhjf1 how_many_of_you_were_not_car_people_before_tesla ) thread. It also partially overlaps with [Should Tesla build an economy model?](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 4h88nc should_tesla_build_an_economy_model ) posted by u manbearpyg last year. Tesla never meant to build a premium auto brand except as a means to the end of accelerat[ing] the advent of sustainable transport by bringing compelling mass market electric cars to market as soon as possible. ([blog](https: www.tesla.com blog mission-tesla)) The cachet that comes with Model S X ownership is going to dissipate over time as Model 3 becomes the main uh vehicle of Tesla s brand. Model 3 will still be an expensive car but not too expensive anyone willing to add a couple hundred dollars to a typical monthly payment will be able to afford it. How do you feel about this inevitable shift in brand connotation? Are you looking forward to the Tesla badge representing a great car that happens to be electric and not so much a luxury brand? I ll go first. My last car was a Prius. The car before that was a base-model Honda Fit. Before that a Honda Accord whose wheels finally fell off. I have a Model 3 reservation and I m looking forward to driving a car that s agnostic about the owner s financial situation and that I can park in the crowded part of the mall parking lot (door dings). It s been fun owning a status symbol for the last couple years but I never wanted that to be a part of my identity. | sowbug | 2017-02-17 19:03:31 | 67 | ddvk54d | My greatest concern is the service parts routine maintenance and body damage repairs. I think right to repair access to manuals etc. should be implemented everywhere. Without that there s no competition. Without competition you ve got trouble. | frowawayduh | 2017-02-17 20:11:34 | 41 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
rvvreb | Are you losing faith in FSD? | I have a big interest in AI and Tesla in general. I am continuously following the FSDs progress. But it feels like it has started to stagnate. Do you agree? I hope I am wrong. | ThePerson654321 | 2022-01-04 14:34:40 | 652 | hr84lu9 | I m more or less surprised the fact that they promised full self-driving way back in 2017 and it s like they had to start from scratch all over again and we re back at phase 1. It s improved a lot since the beta was out a year or so ago but even then from how much they ve praised it back then compared to now I can see why a lot of people have lost a lot of faith in it arriving soon. | Brutaka1 | 2022-01-04 15:52:51 | 465 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
r3ng24 | Are you still waiting on the eMMC recall replacement? | My 2017 Model S has been plagued with a regularly rebooting or completely black main screen as well as dashboard control screen. At the beginning of February 2021 Tesla issued a recall (notice# 21V035) stating *** Tesla will replace the VCM daughterboard that has the Hynix 8GB eMMC with a VCM daughterboard that has an enhanced 64GB Micron eMMC free of charge. *** It has been almost 10 months since the recall notice and I have yet to get an appointment scheduled to get my eMMC replacement. Tesla is on track to sell over 900 000 cars this year which means they have had no issue getting the necessary eMMC units for those cars. Are others out there with an affected Model S or X still waiting on their recall replacement? ([check if you re eligible here](https: service.tesla.com vin-recall-search)). It s my understanding that we can t just pay for our own replacement and get reimbursed later at this point but those who replaced prior to the recall can under certain circumstances. I ve attempted to schedule from the service link on the app and they just cancel my appointment the day before. | metabrewing | 2021-11-27 21:29:30 | 38 | hmbnle9 | Got a new one last week on our X. We scheduled a service appointment as the display computer had finally stopped working near fully. It took a few weeks til they had an open spot but it is fully functional now. | srit1 | 2021-11-27 21:49:27 | 21 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
csphq3 | Argh! Customer Service Nightmare! | Ok so I recently received the email promotion regarding discounted full self driving. I decided to take the leap. So on 8 8 I logged into my account and purchased the upgrade. Shortly after I received two order confirmation emails with different invoice numbers. I got charged twice. Asked wife to verify account with AMEX and sure enough two charges. I ve emailed 6 times and called a dozen. It s nearly impossible to get help. This weekend I found an older thread with advice on how to find the chat option so I tried that today. The rep said he needs me to send him screenshots of my bank statement to prove the double charge. I find this to be ridiculous! They should be able to look in their own system to find this issue. Maybe if I had one invoice but two charges then I could understand. Anybody have any other ideas besides charging it back? TL DR charged twice for FSD upgrade and don t know how to get a refund | weekend_golf | 2019-08-19 23:40:57 | 10 | exg9any | Just chargeback one of them with Amex. They should quickly see the double charge and you ll get no issue from them or Tesla about it. (I used to work in AR. This kind of thing happens sometimes and it s not a big deal.) | Stillhart | 2019-08-19 23:46:02 | 28 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
548e8k | Argument that the production of Teslas is worse for the environment than buying a fuel efficient ICE car | I know there have been posts about this in the past but I m asked somebody to justify their argument that: > anyone who thinks those cars are green needs a fucking reality check When I asked him to justify why he responded with the following: > No problem I ll explain.The production of the batteries(lithium mining is hugely energy intensive and dirty) and manufacturing of the car itself(it s a luxury car with expensive materials it ain t a steel box) as well as it s fuel(most electrical energy in the US is dirty like coal and nuclear fission only 5% of US energy comes from solar wind and water powerplants) So while it is green in your neighbourhood overall you d do the environment a much bigger favour by buying a small efficient petrol car(like a Focus with a 100hp engine). Because even if you drive it for 250 000miles over a 10 year period it s total carbon footprint and environmental damage will be much lower. Don t get me wrong as an engineer I really like Teslas but marketing them as environmentally friendly is just so wrong I know that he is incorrect by over-weighing the environmental effects of producing Teslas but I don t have any numbers or factual evidence to support my claim. It bothers me that people don t have the right perspective on this issue. Does anybody have a good rebuttal? | Auhv10 | 2016-09-24 02:51:36 | 35 | d7zqre3 | Just common myths * Even with the car charged from the grid it s still more energy-efficient & less total emissions than ICE vehicles this used to be listed on Tesla s website I can t find it now. (I think the only exception is China) * Making the battery itself has an upfront energy cost but since you re creating less emissions while you drive you break even after about 10 000 or 20 000 miles (Was said by JB Straubel during a talk) * It takes more energy to refine oil into gasoline than it does to simply use that energy to drive the car. So as soon as you fill up your gas tank you ve already used more energy than a Tesla even if you drive zero miles. * small 2kWh solar setup that will offset ALL your Tesla s energy usage infinity MPG -https: www.anapode.com products 8panel_Complete_Solar_Panel_Module_Kit_DIY | crayfisher | 2016-09-24 03:14:59 | 37 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
e9rzpr | Argument to “Tesla can shut down your car” | I quite enjoy Tesla and I know a-lot about the company cars stats etc. As an Electrical Engineer I know a decent amount of what goes into a Tesla but can never counter the point of “Tesla can shut down your car.” Its used by people I know that usually are dead set on old cars. But the point is so broad and so random that I can never argue it. Its like saying Apple can shut down your phone whenever they want. But I ve never been able to explain it to the people that like to use this as their argument. So whats a good argument to counter that point? | RyanWalkowiak | 2019-12-12 19:07:29 | 79 | fal3n1b | The provider of any service can shut it down. That doesn t stop us from using broadband natural gas water electricity USPS Gmail etc. Just because it theoretically can be turned off doesn t mean it s a remotely likely possibility. It s a weird hill for those people to die on. | noswad8 | 2019-12-12 19:10:39 | 147 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
gff5rn | Arizona State Owners | Hi All. I m about to join the Tesla family and I m trying to understand the Arizona state incentives for owning an EV. If I m reading it properly we get a VERY reduced rate for our registration annually. Any AZ model 3 owners want to share what they pay for registration annually? Thanks in advance. | owntsk | 2020-05-07 21:02:49 | 15 | fpt7voc | Instead of $4000 for 5 years of reg it was $75. Pretty decent. | lmaccaro | 2020-05-07 21:20:11 | 7 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
asz4p3 | Ark invest interi follow up: march of nined | When discussing reliability of the autopilot system (~10:20 mark in the audio linked below) Elon mentions that going from concept to regulatory body approval involves a march of nines eluding to the fact that regulators will need to see some number of 9 reliability ratings strung together across a multitude of factors in order to buy off on the safety of the core technology. Can someone help me understand where the march of nines term comes from? Also I d like to understand more about the process used to quantify reliability. How are these ratings calculated without some degree of subjectivity? https: ark-invest.com research podcast elon-musk-podcast | robot72 | 2019-02-21 05:10:54 | 12 | egxoa4j | 99.% 99.9% 99.99% 99.999% 99.9999% | itsalan | 2019-02-21 05:17:30 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
c5xrxa | Arnold Schwarzenegger Goes Undercover as a Used Car Salesman to sell Gas Cars over Electric | Arnold is back as Howard Kleiner. Go undercover with Arnold as he highlights the benefits of going electric – by trying to sell the opposite. Howard Kleiner is intent on selling gas-guzzling cars to unsuspecting electric car customers. By the end of the video even Howard might know the benefits of going electric. [https: youtu.be rXodSqMpuUQ](https: youtu.be rXodSqMpuUQ) | shadowstorm33 | 2019-06-26 23:19:11 | 296 | es57ebq | Tax credit? Why not have street credit. I died lol | Iwantatesla | 2019-06-27 02:44:43 | 90 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
bbenbz | Ars Technica writer Timothy Lee consistently bashing Tesla and Elon Musk anybody know what is going on? | Every article this guy writes is very skewed against Tesla and Musk. It almost seems like he s part if a smear campaign. He is not impartial and leaves out important facts and skews other facts in what I feel are clearly dishonest ways. He writes very long articles full of bogus analysis in my opinion. It is frustrating to see these articles over and over in my feed. User comments in ars that question his agenda are downvoted. If anyone else has noticed this I d like to know what is going on with this writer he is clearly trying his hardest to bring down Tesla and it kind of stinks to me. Disclaimer- I do not own Tesla stock or own a Tesla nor do I work for Tesla I am simply a fan and an electric car enthusiast. | dinobyte | 2019-04-09 22:58:46 | 126 | ekiaacp | Clickity click click clicks | styres | 2019-04-09 23:09:55 | 113 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
o9l5fk | Article: Tesla shares shrug off ‘soft recall of 285 000 cars in China -CNBC | drivers could mistakenly switch on (or off) an active cruise control feature in their Model 3 or Model Y cars in certain situations. For example the feature could switch on or off while making a sharp turn. [https: www.cnbc.com 2021 06 28 tesla-shares-shrug-off-soft-recall-of-285000-cars-in-china.html](https: www.cnbc.com 2021 06 28 tesla-shares-shrug-off-soft-recall-of-285000-cars-in-china.html) | TeslaBroker | 2021-06-28 14:17:10 | 79 | h3buefy | As a shareholder I realize recalls can and will happen. I also realize that being able to address a recall at the cost of a few developer man-hours and some data transfers is nothing when compared to what even software-only recalls that involve a dealership visit cost. This capability is currently unique to Tesla (with a few rare and new exceptions) so I see it as a substantial competitive advantage. This makes me happy. | thisisreadonly | 2021-06-28 15:18:36 | 69 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
e11hgi | Articles keep saying that it s unlikely the unveiled Cybrtrck will be produced as is. | Apologies if this had been discussed elsewhere. I would love a link if you don t mind. A search didn t show anything to me. They keep talking about headlights crumple zones and side mirrors. & gt Its headlights a strip of illumination wouldn t be street legal. Automotive engineering experts say they re also worried about the lack of a visible “crumple zone ” built to collapse and absorb the brunt of the force in a forward collision. www.wired.com story why-tesla-cybertruck-looks-weird amp Any thoughts? Edit: it s stupid that I have to say this but I m in no way criticizing the truck. I have my reservation just like many of you. The design is eye catching and I can t wait to drive it around my small town. I m just trying to foster a discussion and learn from others. | AgentShabu | 2019-11-24 17:28:52 | 16 | f8kywzm | “Automotive engineering experts” Tesla literally builds the safest cars on the road. I think they know what they re doing. | ThisIsADemoAcccount | 2019-11-24 17:30:55 | 44 | Revolutionary Tesla Cybertruck |
7gvkd0 | Artificially limiting Performance | I know that Tesla s have a valet mode but I m wondering about something different: I know that the dealerships can limit the performance of the cars to simulate other models but I wanted to know if it s possible to do something similar? I have a family member that will probably use the car who has a bit of a lead foot and I d love to artificially hamstring the car so it performs more like an accord with a max speed of maybe 85 and the same acceleration as a Honda Accord. Also I thought it would be fun for all of the folks that believe electric cars are slow plodding beasts to try a slow plodding car... and then half way through the drive take the shackles off and unleash the true speed of the car! Is it possible to artificially limit the performance? | JediChris1138 | 2017-12-01 15:11:01 | 13 | dqm1115 | What about [chill mode](https: electrek.co 2017 11 05 tesla-new-software-update-chill-feature-to-soften-crazy-acceleration )? | TheNewJasonBourne | 2017-12-01 15:35:33 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
fgekvl | As a Chinese Tesla fan let me say what happened this time maybe the employee made a mistake. | My English is not very good there may be grammatical errors please forgive me. Maybe you don t know a piece of news that sensationalized China. The results of Volkswagen s Passat and Tiguan were very bad when they tested 25% offset impact in China.This is a huge scandal sweeping across China. In the tests the A-pillars of these vehicles were completely broken the airbags would be distorted and the driver would surely die.In contrast Volkswagen s Passat and other models in the United States the test results are good.Chinese car consumers and the media are very sensitive to the configuration of the same model in different countries.Volkswagen Passat now has the nickname mobile coffin in China。Once bad news appears it is easy for Chinese consumers and the media to associate discrimination，double standard. The above is the historical background. This time Tesla model3 has only one controller model in the list of auto parts declared to the Chinese government which is 1462554 (HW3.0). I think this may be a mistake by Chinese Tesla employees He should write 1462554 (HW3.0) and 1483112 (HW2.5) on the list when reporting to the government，random equipment should also be noted. The Tesla owners who got the car found that some of the vehicle s controller models were 1483112 (HW2.5) which did not match the instructions on the list so they complained to the government agency.From Musk s tweet it seems that Musk does not know that there is a problem with the registration list. There are an amazing number of Tesla and SpaceX fans in China. Every day they guessed on social media (similar to reddit) when Tesla will have a dry electrode + super capacitor battery and pay attention to each test of the stainless steel starship SN series. They will argue with others because of 5G and StarLink and they will patiently tell people who lack space knowledge how good the SpaceX Raptor engine is. Every time Tesla s software update is published on Weibo (similar to Twitter) the excitement is forwarded. Many people in China have a type of Musk Refresh Disease which means that F5 often gets the latest news from Tesla SpaceX Solarcity and Boring Companies in the media.If there is a Tesla employee or who can contact Tesla and tell Musk China is a huge market many people here are his hardcore fans but also Tesla fans. A perfect solution to this matter focusing on the Chinese market we will win-win. This is the first time I have written English content for foreigners. I don t know how many grammatical errors I have. Welcome to point out.Best wishes to you all and hope the virus epidemic ends soon. | guangqing | 2020-03-10 14:23:37 | 370 | fk40a8j | That s very good English! ... And useful background info on double standards. Thanks. | neale87 | 2020-03-10 14:28:59 | 151 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5hrf6l | As a Tesla owner what are the top 5 best practices you ve implemented to prolong battery life and maintain range? | Hey guys I just wanted to know about your experience and what have and have not worked out for you. | nitrac | 2016-12-11 18:15:22 | 18 | db2bwcl | You re overthinking this. Plug it in then drive it and plug it in again. | geo38 | 2016-12-11 18:25:34 | 51 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
302twe | As a Tesla owner would you buy a electric car from another manufacturer? | I ve been thinking about this since I got my car about 10 days ago and my conclusion is that no matter what electric car comes out of BMW or Audi or Mercedes I may never buy one from them provided the basics are the same and not related to some major breakthrough (like 400miles range with 5 minute recharging). I feel like I m getting Teslas for the rest of my life. The reason is that Tesla does not feel or behave like an automobile company. Others will always have a dealer network. They will always have a large fleet of new cars to not laser focus on a few models. They will never be a software focused company because of internal legacy power centers if that makes sense. There will always be something which I ll have to deal with that I no longer I have to with Tesla. They don t have a comparable supercharger network and not sure how long will it take others to get there. It s like Apple and iPhone in more ways than one. Focus stores updates few models software driven as much as hardware driven customer satisfaction customer support etc. If someone gives me a million dollars with the condition that I can buy any car and have to drive it daily I ll still buy a Model S X and give the rest back if I have to. So fellow Tesla owners do you see yourself buying an electric 5 series or S class or whatever electric car that comes out tomorrow? | teahugger | 2015-03-24 00:40:32 | 10 | cpoqhe0 | The moment I walked away from the Tesla store after completing my test drive I realized everything had changed. I went home and didn t take a shower to wash off all the bullshit I get from going to a dealership. Ordered the car on the website the next day and will only buy a car that way from now on. No bullshit no negotiating no underhanded nonsense. Just check off the options that i want and click to buy. I bought the car while I was at work sitting at my desk eating a tuna sandwich. Of course price is the big issue for most everyone and I realize I m so very fortunate to have the means to do this but I ll never buy a car again that I can t buy while sitting at my desk eating a goddamn tuna sandwich. So until the day comes that is possible Tesla is the car for me! Oh and there are lots of other reasons but until the tuna sandwich requirement is meet no point in worrying about them. | rabidchinchilla | 2015-03-24 03:20:32 | 25 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
6ehuk4 | As a Texas resident what can I expect when it comes time to order my Model 3? Ordering down payment financing (GAP etc) tax credit... | I ve bought cars before but buying a Tesla in Texas will be different because our legislature are idiots. Has anyone in Texas bought a Tesla that might be able to shed light on this? I was just wondering how it would go down related to: -Ordering the Tesla (deposit down payment?) -Delivery (what I need to bring?) -Financing options (do I get my own financing to bring to Tesla?) -Tax credit (I assume you do this the January after) | dcdttu | 2017-05-31 20:46:00 | 24 | diaenl7 | *Spec order & nbsp *Pay deposit (2 500 for S X 1K for 3) & nbsp *Wait 7 days & nbsp *DS is assigned & nbsp *Wait for production to start - Same time think about how you want to purchase (Finance or Lease) & nbsp *Don t go crazy & nbsp *Production starts & nbsp *DS arranges delivery date & nbsp *Contact Tesla to use their financing programs or contact your bank of choice - Here you will know down payment amount if necessary (initial order deposit is subtracted from total owed) & nbsp *Delivery Day & nbsp *Print out 30 day temp tag online & nbsp *Telsa will give you paperwork for DMV registration & nbsp *Go to DMV within 30 days & nbsp *Write out check for sales tax 6.25% & nbsp *Texas DMV mails title send title to finance company & nbsp *Enjoy the ride & nbsp *Come tax time claim credit with VIN # | MaxKW | 2017-05-31 20:58:39 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5368xr | As a big car enthusiast (yes including ICEs) I just want to really thank Elon for cutting out dealerships. | Before Tesla came along nobody thought it was possible. People always thought the whole dealership experience is like paying tax unpleasant and unavoidable. I have dealt with many dealerships throughout my life from Honda to Ferrari from [quite pleasant experience](https: www.reddit.com r cars comments 41r578 soi_drove_the_new_mclaren_570s ) to [absolute shit show](https: www.reddit.com r cars comments 2z3814 how_did_people_buy_the_new_corvette ) but I ve always had consistently good experience at Tesla showrooms. Sometimes I have relatives or friends visiting from out of town who are into cars I usually do two things: Take them in my M3 and tear apart [Skyline Blvd](https: upload.wikimedia.org wikipedia commons 1 18 San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg). Sometimes doesn t work out because traffic is bad. Take them to the nearby Tesla showroom and let them experience the Ludicrous Mode. Never had a problem with this. We take for granted that Tesla allows almost anyone to test drive a $130k vehicle and very often not much pressure to sell either. The only other brand who s nearly this chill about test driving is Porsche. I really hope this model becomes more and more mainstream the difference between the two is almost like the difference between the Apple Genius Bar and Geek Squad. This direct sales model is in my opinion one of the biggest innovation of Tesla aside from the actual cars. Apologize for the random rant. | cookingboy | 2016-09-17 06:58:15 | 491 | d7qffh3 | Dealerships are just another link in the chain that technology is going to take out. Elon is holding fast because he knows eventually he ll win. There is no longer a need for a middle man because the information dealerships used to give out is now freely available to anyone with an internet connection. Good riddance when the dealerships of yore are put out of business. About time these leeches are taken out. | topapito | 2016-09-17 11:23:45 | 102 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
g54xbn | As a certified automotive mechanic what does Tesla look for fielding new hires? | I ve recently become certified and red seal in Canada as an Automotive service technician. I ve been an admirer of Tesla for years and after driving one I feel this is the direction I want to take my career. Morally the shift from fossil fuels to renewable energy is where I want to be heading and aside from simply applying online (during our current times) I m not sure what else I can be doing in order to field interest when my resume hits the desk. Anyone working in Service here? What is an average day like? Quality of life? What do you end up repairing and servicing most? What should be expected benefits? Pay? Advancement? Training? (This is an important one for me) Any information is good information! | Gnarbachy | 2020-04-21 00:31:52 | 26 | fo1e53f | You can go into Tesla START Program which is hands on training on Tesla cars. Don t know if Canada has this program you can look. Guarantee job at service center after the program if you get in. I tried to get in but unfortunately they didn t accept me(didn t have any job experience knowledge) but one of my mates did get in. You go over everything and my mate said his group put a performance motor from Performance M3 in a rear wheel drive M3. You ll be ahead of the curve when other manufactures start looking for mechanics that worked on EVs. | taken_the_easy_way | 2020-04-21 01:08:45 | 13 | Pursuing Career at Tesla |
y3bg89 | As a non-Tesla EV owner I now get it! | I get it. I now understand why so many people are emphatically over the moon with their Tesla. I myself drive an Audi e-tron and my wife drives a Volvo XC60 PHEV but over the past week we drove a Model Y Long Range over 850 miles while on vacation. We drove it in downtown urban areas suburbs on the interstate on back country roads a National Park and even an international border. After driving the car for a week in many different types of driving scenarios I can confidently say driving a Tesla is the most complete EV experience currently on the market. The key word here is EV as the majority of my dislikes stem around the car part of the Y we rented. The EV Software part of the Y was nearly a full chef s kiss. The only thing that really left a bad taste in my mouth was a few aspects of the auto-pilot (AP) system. Things I loved: * Plug and charge * In car route planning with charging * Showing how many spots were open at a Super Charger * One pedal driving * Amazing efficiency * AP can find and maintain a lane like no other system I ve used Things that were neat: * The slight delay before regen kicked in when coming off AP giving you enough time to get your foot on the accelerator. * The speed limit recognition system automatically converting KPH to MPH when driving into Canada. * The charge door opening when pressing the button on the charger handle * Being able to watch a Hulu show while waiting to board a car ferry. Things I didn t really care for but wasn t a big deal * The two step door handles were a little annoying * The driving info on the left side of the screen was a little gimmicky. I would have preferred to have a full screen map then an animation of a semi-truck that was actually a car pulling a trailer. * The vegan leather looked and felt cheap but the seats were ultimately comfortable to sit in for hours which is really what is important. * No real-time visualization of traffic along the route. I m fairly certain traffic was taken into account when route planning but there is no indication I could find to show it on the map. Ultimately not a big deal since it really did seem like traffic was taken into account when creating a route. Things I really didn t like * The suspension is subpar. The Y really needs better suspension and maybe even an air suspension system. Once the roads start to get a little rough the suspension really started to show its faults. It was fine on smooth roads though. * Road noise is a problem. It gets loud in the cabin over 60 mph especially if the road is not perfectly smooth. * There were various squeaks and creaks when going over bumps and on rough roads. * Looking at the map while driving was a bit of a neck stretch. Like I said before it would have been nice to have a full screen map or at least have it positioned closer to the driver. * There is no cruise control speed memory past being able to automatically set it at the speed limit (or X% past the speed limit) * The torque sensor for AP is not very sensitive. Our Audi is capacitive but the Volvo uses a torque sensor and only takes the slightly nudge to recognize an input. I could wiggle the Y s steering wheel and nothing. I ended up just flicking the volume up and down in these cases which was a little annoying. Things that drove me bonkers * Adaptive cruise control is way too sensitive. I only had one phantom braking instance but there were many times I would pass a parked car a cyclist a runner a car turning left in front of me and a few other things that would trigger a panic brake scenario. Our Audi and Volvo do not have this problem. * No blind spot monitoring system. I found Tesla s solution to blind spots more effort and increased the amount of time when my eyes were off the road. Almost every other manufacturer has a light on the mirror which lets you quickly look in your mirror and see if someone is in your blind spot simultaneously. It s a two step process in a Tesla and I found myself manually checking my blind spots in heavy traffic situations. * AP disabling every single time I changed lanes. In moderate traffic this became a nuisance every time I moved into the left lane to pass someone. * Auto high beams when AP was enabled. I ended up blinding a bunch of people because this system is not up to snuff. Our Audi and Volvo do not have this problem. I eventually just turned AP off after getting flashed multiple times by oncoming cars. * AP is an all or nothing system. It s great at maintaining your lane but in the rare instance it didn t I wish the system would let you make a small correction instead of disabling altogether. It was very jerky and would fight me in those situations. It just didn t feel safe. I do want to touch on AP one more time as I was blown away by how well it would maintain a lane. It didn t matter if it was a construction zone with a temporary lane made of cones or a twisty mountain road full of switch backs. The darn car would stay in the center of the lane and handle almost any turn no matter how tight. It truly is next level in this aspect. The big problem I had with AP was the ancillary systems around it that made the experience like monitoring a toddler. Frankly AP is much more advanced than Audi or Volvo s system but the latter systems are so much more relaxing to use especially on the interstate where lane markings are generally good. Alright. If you have read this far you re probably thinking I hate the vehicle after how much complaining I did but that truly isn t the case. The things that made the Y great were weighted much higher than what wasn t so great. Point being the EV Software aspects of the car are so polished that I get how people are willing to overlook some of the things Tesla doesn t do well with. Would I buy one? IDK. Maybe. It s hard to say since we already have two nice cars but at the very least I get what the hype is about. I m also having a hard time adjusting to not having one pedal driving on my e-tron after spending a week with the Tesla so there is that. :) Thanks for letting me ramble. | letstalkaboutrocks | 2022-10-13 21:58:44 | 1,657 | is7p4en | For the No real time traffic visaization if its a rental it most likely doesn t have the premium subscription plan which gives you that on the map. Just an FYI | SemperFi2013 | 2022-10-13 22:11:38 | 766 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
446uy9 | As a student I cannot afford a Tesla however I technically drive a Tesla to University everyday | This [ Tesla ](https: www.braunschweig.de wirtschaft_wissenschaft wissenschaftsportal 032714_Vorstellung_emil_062.JPG.scaled 1024x683.pm0.bgFFFFFF.jpg) has specifications similar to the Model S. It has a 90kWh battery in the roof which leaves more space in the cabin for passengers. Now the most interesting part is how they charge the bus. They use an induction system developed by Bombardier. The system charges at an insane 200kW compared to the already insane 120kW with the Supercharger that you guys are familiar with. This system was co-developed with my University. I hope in future I will be able to work with Tesla that they can too one day charge whilst standing at a red light or even whilst driving. Of course with my future Tesla as well :D. The website with the specifications is down if you are interested I can post a link later (in German hopefully I can find an English version) | noscope420YOLO | 2016-02-04 19:25:51 | 18 | cznx6yz | The Tesla brand is becoming the Kleenex of tissues. | pacman1176 | 2016-02-04 19:55:06 | 21 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
36rz49 | As a student who commutes via bicycle on major roads every day I want to thank all of you who drive emission-free EV s. The more of you there are the less exhaust fumes I have to breathe in. | This was the icing on the cake that sold me on Tesla. I ll have a real job by the time the Model 3 comes out. Fingers crossed that I ll be able to afford one that early in my career. | dolphinsarethebest | 2015-05-21 17:25:20 | 176 | crgrdp8 | I am traveling in Europe right now and the Diesel fumes are 10x worse than gasoline! So stinky. Won t miss them when they re gone. | D_Livs | 2015-05-21 20:58:40 | 20 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
58lw1f | As an ER doc... | And a tesla owner who will probably upgrade to AP 3.0... The latest announcement makes me very happy. I look forward to the days when high risk patients chew an aspirin get in their car and press emergency and it takes them to the nearest ER. The future is coming faster than we expected. | curiousdoc | 2016-10-21 06:41:43 | 483 | d91jkie | Could self-driving cars have an emergency drive mode which engages blinking lights and a special horn? Could Tesla program the self-driving mode to be very aggressive? Probably not if it can be activated by accident or as a joke but I think it s an interesting issue. | moofunk | 2016-10-21 09:11:05 | 106 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
cggrfp | As an FSD optimist I can t help but feel pessimistic about its implementation in some dense European countries. | Understanding neural-networks it would be accurate to say that the FSD computer will treat every stretch of road as if it s the first time it s seen that road. It won t have a concrete memory of roads driven - it will just remember how it feels to drive on roads like it. In other words it d be similar to how you d drive a rental in a city you ve never visited before you know how roads work so you just apply that on every new stretch of road you come across. Here in the US while each state has their own rules for engineering a new road they re basically the same from state to state. Only huge cities that begin to outgrow their infrastructure become somewhat challenging to navigate for a rental driver. But basically most roads are planned before buildings are built. This means that there s little intervention required based on the drivers around you - the roads are designed for you to keep your lane accelerate brake and that s basically it. I ve visited a few European countries on occasion and I ve seen how much of an afterthought roads are due to the age of the towns and cities. In most cases property lines restricted the development of roads since pathways were already established for foot travel and horses. I ve been watching [this AP in UK series](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=QA0qv3RDvPE) and all throughout it I can t help but think that FSD will be crippled by a seeming lack of markings signs and intervention required to accommodate other drivers. The video maker himself (who s a local) was even confused about the roads he was driving on. While I definitely think it s a solvable problem (even on current hardware) I m skeptical about the behavior of FSD in these areas. Keeping in mind that it ll never remember specific roads it ll just treat each road as if it s the first time the car encountered it. Imagine FSD Teslas filling the streets but their behavior driving on European roads resembles an American renting a car trying their hardest to obey local traffic laws. This 2-lane-2-way road just turned into a 1-lane road. I guess I ll just drive in the middle of the lane around this corner. That seems safest. This 2-lane road has cars parked on both sides in both directions. There s also a car coming towards me. What do I do? I m curious to see if Tesla will need to fallback to manually programming behavior on specific stretches of road or just disabling swaths of roads from the FSD road network. Understanding when the right-of-way is being granted to you (or when you need to forfeit your right of way) is a hurdle we don t have in America at least not to the extent of Europe. | MrMusAddict | 2019-07-22 18:11:28 | 32 | euhjy6i | Most Dutch owners really hate the AP and even the collision detection because it acts erratically on Dutch roads. Tesla has a long long way to go before FSD is a thing here. | Arfman2 | 2019-07-22 20:51:50 | 15 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
2fk65e | As an engineer I like a few of the improvements they ve made but I can t get over how loud it is. | [Saleen Video](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=mWdatUMNmTI) Apparently Saleen has replaced the stock helical cut gears with straight cut gears to get that sound. Modern helical cut gears are nearly as efficient as straight cut and going to straight cut is likely just a cost savings for them. Not sure I d want a louder vehicle while cruising down the highway. | [deleted] | 2014-09-05 16:08:32 | 16 | cka5gp8 | It sounds like a vacuum cleaner. | banksy_h8r | 2014-09-05 19:20:32 | 8 | Tesla Model 3 Audio Experience |
l8q4vj | As an owner I don t see how any owner can think Level 5 is anywhere close | Got my Model 3 in December. Paid for FSD and I don t regret it (yet). I love the car better than anything I ve driven in recent memory. Like the center screen like the driving dynamics. Even like watching Netflix while waiting at the supercharger. I was motivated to post this because the design of the new Model S X seems to clearly indicate they don t actually think you ll need the steering wheel most of the time. That seems really really premature. The existing Autopilot is not great and I m even starting to avoid using it out of fear of unexpected behavior. The FSD videos show similar behavior even more unrefined and applied in even more scenarios. Projecting forward it s not getting better at a rate that will reach Level 5 anytime soon. At least 5 to 10 years I d guess. FSD might get us to Level 3 if we re really lucky. Problems: - Phantom braking. So much of it. I drive mainly at night these days and it now happens about once sometimes twice every 20-40 minute drive. In the same very general section of highway but not related to specific cars bridges or trucks as far as I can see. Could be any of those or none in some cases. Slamming on the brakes at 120 km h in traffic is not great. - Had it disengage mid off-ramp a few times and I had to grab the wheel to keep from slamming into a concrete barrier. - It seems to deliberately and sometimes dramatically slow while overtaking cars in parallel lanes causing the people behind me to slam on their brakes. - Fast moving but dense traffic seems to be the worst. It s not aggressive enough and confuses the people around me. Then will suddenly disengage or change speed making the situation worse. - Any time a lane closes or opens on a boulevard it can t figure out where to go and swerves before disengaging. - In moderate snow without the Autopilot even engaged the sensors go crazy detecting every lump of snow on the road as an obstacle and sounding alarms constantly at speeds under 20km h. - Fully automated lane change is dangerous usually wrong erratic and pointless. - Not moving at the speed of traffic. Holding at 70km h on long on-ramps for way too long then attempting to get to 120km h right at the end of the onramp. If you watch FSD videos some of this is improved but a lot of it is not. It s mostly just the same kind of unreliable behavior in a wider array of situations. The point of all of this is that it is not getting better very fast. And is bad enough now that I only really feel comfortable using it where I would have used cruise control in the past. Open highways in a nearly straight line with little traffic and good weather. It s basically $10k cruise control. And when you add the nags less automated than cruise control in some ways. | static416 | 2021-01-30 17:06:03 | 4,112 | gle410p | My wife has stopped using autopilot due to phantom breaking. I don t blame her when she is going 70mph and the brakes slam on bringing her down to 50mph in a few seconds on a motorway. So dangerous I can t believe after all this time and data they still haven t fixed it. Tesla are great and we love the car but there are several serious things like this that need to be addressed as a priority over boom boxes and new games | DryDoughnut7 | 2021-01-30 18:23:09 | 680 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5o42mc | As anyone recently gotten the Model S rear jump seats retrofitted? | I got my 85D almost two years ago... My biggest regret was not getting the rear jump seats ordered with it. There s been instances in the last two years where I definitely could ve used them. My kids are the perfect age for them (8 and 6 years old). I m going to be taking my 85D for the annual service soon and I will be asking for them to retrofit the jump seats (if possible). Has anyone gotten it done recently? Was it still around 3500-4000 dollars? I figure it s much cheaper to retrofit than get a Model X lol | CombatChuk | 2017-01-15 14:06:35 | 10 | dcggyj0 | Are they retrofitting the rear seats now? I thought that the factory-installed seats also included additional structural reinforcements. | Thud | 2017-01-15 15:05:14 | 6 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
6x4vuo | As gas prices rise to $2.49 gal and beyond due to Harvey as a Tesla owner... | ... please be cool. Yes we will remain largely unaffected. Sure we ll be able to happily drive by the lines of cars that are starting to creep ever longer at gas stations. The articles that will appear about gas price spikes will be skimmed over a curiosity at most. But and here I m being completely serious this will negatively affect the American people outside of the already devastating effects it has had upon Houston and beyond. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck. A spike in gas prices will mean they won t be able to afford other things and sometimes those will be important things. As much as we like to toot our own horns about our sweet ass rides let s stay humble and sympathetic. I ve seen some comments start to show up that are... not cool. Let s don t go there. Please. | illegalt3nder | 2017-08-31 05:06:58 | 111 | dmd4hgi | [R]ise to $2.49 gal ... Rise??? I can t remember the last time I saw gas that cheap! | revchewie | 2017-08-31 05:28:18 | 82 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
5x36zy | As of 02 18 2017 Hartford Auto Insurance not allowing Any Model Tesla be written as new business or added to an existing policy in these states: | CT FL KY MD ME OH TX WV Any current policy with The Hartford that has a Tesla will not be affected however if you want to add a new Tesla (any model) to your policy it will no longer be allowed as per The Hartford. My reaction to this is other insurance companies will follow I do not mean ALL of them will follow but in my experience when one does something a few others follow suit. The Hartford imo is on the upper echelon of quality insurers but still a for profit company at the end of the day and it s a shame to see this. Souce: I have an insurance agency in Florida and we received this reminder of a bulletin posted on their agent portal back in 02 18. | infoe36069 | 2017-03-02 13:30:15 | 25 | deetzrs | Looks like Tesla is gonna insure there own vehicles too. Until states ban direct-insurance. | Cubicbill1 | 2017-03-02 13:34:22 | 24 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
5np90o | As of the latest update to the Design Studio you can no longer order non-leather seats on a Model S with the Premium package. | Effectively this increases the price of the Premium package by $2500 to $6000 (listed at $3500). All trims and performance levels when paired with the premium package remove the options for Textile seats or Tesla Leather Seats leaving only the $2500 Tesla Premium Leather seats. The Model X base option of Black Textile Dark ash Black headliner is unaffected. | ThatOneRoadie | 2017-01-13 07:17:03 | 36 | dcdi4cs | Except of course for the ultrawhite seats which are made from a synthetic material that Tesla developed in collaboration with the PETA organisation. Elon himself says these are the best seats you can get in a Tesla. | Anthracitation | 2017-01-13 13:35:55 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9uedun | As of today my Model 3 has been in the Seattle service center for eleven weeks due to the bottleneck of spare parts arriving. | This is ridiculous. It was just correcting a cosmetic panel gap leftover that was present off the line manufacturing for the trunk but apparently rear quarter window assemblies are made out of freakin unobtainium and those need to be replaced in order to do paint-blending. The delay had better be because they re installing some P3D motors or something... Given that the delay is on the part-supply side of things does anyone have any recommendations for anything I can do about this? I ve had a loaner the entire time which is nice but at nearly _three months_ I just miss my own vehicle. I ve put more miles on the loaner than on my actual car. | shadowthunder | 2018-11-05 15:21:13 | 185 | e93k0pj | I m going on six months for a part for my Model S. Ridiculous. | OrbitalATK | 2018-11-05 15:21:54 | 76 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
icpntl | As someone who does not send their food back when the order is wrong because shy how do I properly refuse the car during delivery day? | TLDR at the bottom. I am expecting delivery of the Y soon and I have a list of things I can inspect in on the car to see if it should be sent back should I refuse delivery. I am nervous because of all the negative reviews people have been posting on this sub. I want some help on what should I do if and when I find something wrong with the car. For someone who is very shy I never send back food or complain that my friend didn t pay me back enough money that they borrowed or return a shirt I bought from amazon because it was the wrong size. The first and only car that I actually bought I ended up paying $3k more because I didn t know how to negotiate haggle. Much of this is because I am introverted anxious and just feel like I am being rude. A little bit of it is because I am also lazy I don t want to get through all the trouble just to get something small fixed to what I want. When I was young it was my mother who would take care of things. Now I just have me. However you guys all know this thing isn t just a $20 shirt or a $12 food. I will be sinking $60k into this car so I actually want what I ordered. I have always wanted a tesla and now that it is in within my reach I am getting more nervous every day when I see a bad review. I was wondering if you guys have any advice on what I should say do should I refuse delivery of my car. I want to be assertive but not sound like an entitled a\*\*hole. Everyone keeps saying refuse at delivery but I actually don t understand how that works. Should I just literally turn around and walk away? Should I say a few things? Tell em a piece of my mind? Should I call my mom to do it for me? But in all seriousness I would like some help on what I should do at the door. I am hoping and praying I don t need to do this but at the very least I want to be prepared. I haven t seen it posted here so I thought I should give it a shot. If we get enough replies people can also use this thread if they are someone like me. & #x200B **TLDR:** I am a shy person and I was wondering if you have tips on how to refuse my car on delivery. | Veesayan | 2020-08-19 15:21:06 | 121 | g23ze6e | Just know that it really doesn t cause the representative that much grief. They just park it in a different lot and send one email. They also have no financial stake in you deciding to take or keep the car. Just do the right thing. You ll be more likely to self-hate in the future if you don t turn it away if it has issues than if you take it. As someone who has been screwed by Tesla several times I can assure you you re better off dealing with it then and there. | WestSorbet | 2020-08-19 15:23:28 | 154 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
4ei7dn | As someone who had their car delivered 1 month ago do you think we will see a conversion kit available to us for the new front and headlights on the Tesla Store? | I just had my P90D delivered on 3 10 and am curious how Tesla will give everyone the chance to update their car if they want to. For instance when I ordered my P90D the only ludicrous upgrade kit on the store was for P85D s to get ludicrous. A few weeks after delivery the P90D ludicrous upgrade kit was announced. The headlights and front section look near same dimensions (although hard to tell from photo). What are the chances Tesla allows us to pay to get some of these new features? | dewski | 2016-04-12 21:06:49 | 13 | d20c6c2 | Feels pretty unlikely. | dirtyfries | 2016-04-12 21:15:07 | 11 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
61ilow | As someone who is a Tesla investor and will be coming from a Mercedes AMG... | I was extremely satisfied with what I heard recently on conferences calls and yesterday from Elon regarding the recent developments and new information relating to the Model S (and X) and the Model 3. I ll explain below... I ve been driving a 2005 Mercedes C55 AMG (RWD) for going on 10 years. I m the second owner of the car purchased it for around $38 000 in 2007 2008 with approximately 8 000 miles. I m now at about 105 000 miles. Right now I do around 15 000-20 000 miles a year and get around 23 MPG. I ve been extremely pleased with the car s performance. The 0-60MPH speed of 5.5 seconds has been more than adequate for the driving I do. It has insanely quick acceleration from 50 MPH to 100 MPH which is about as fast as I ever take it. The suspension turning and handling is tremendous. Given that the car was made in 2005 it is very limited when it comes to technology (bells whistles and the like). The GPS was used...maybe...3 times from 2008 to 2010 and has never been used since then. The sound system is amazing but it lacks any type of Bluetooth connectivity or whatever the hell people use nowadays. It does have a disc player though! But other than the disc player the radio the small dashboard interface and the dashboard gauges it is a pretty basic car...with insane performance and a great leather interior. My biggest problems expenses over the years with this car (other than the standard tire expenses oil changes and other fluid changes) has been the emission systems and the fuel system. You ll have to excuse my awful terminology... - The car has a saddle gas tank which essentially just means a fancy gas tank that can suddenly cut access to 50% of your fuel. I was driving one day and watched my fuel gauge drop 50% in a few seconds as the car lost the ability to pull fuel from that tank. That required a fair amount of work (and $$$). - The car ended up having another issue relating to the fuel system shortly after requiring some new parts (and $$$!). - The car has many sensors some of which can cause the car to stop working completely without any warning. One of these failed on a minor road trip for dental surgery making it impossible to drive. That required a tow a rental and a fair amount of work (and $$$). *NOTE* Ironically this experience gave me a different kind of range anxiety for a few years after it happened. - The car was unable to pass it s emissions test due to a faulty fan device. That required a fair amount of work (and unsurprisingly a lot of $$$). - The car had another emission-related issue but I can t even recall the complicated explanation that I got on that one and I don t feel like digging through paperwork to try to find that. - The car did have an issue with it s engine mounts a bit prematurely which required a fair amount of work and $$$. But I don t hold that too much against the car as it is fairly standard expense. It also had to have some belts and whatnot replaced in the engine but like I said nothing too expensive or out of the norm other than the fuel and emission systems. As you can see and imagine I m quite tired of emission and fuel system related car expenses. Another interesting tidbit about the car is the basic dashboard interface. While it is very user-friendly and basic it doesn t display information is a very easily viewable way. I am very tall and drive with my steering wheel in a position where I will have to duck down or stretch up to see what I have it set to display (usually my speed). My main point is it isn t something that has much use to me. I know the sound of my engine after 100 000 miles - I don t even need to look at the RPM if I m driving in manual-mode. I know my speed without having to look. I haven t gotten a speeding ticket in 8 years but I speed all of the time. I pretty much get in my car...look ahead drive enjoy the car s performance (and wonderful leather interior) play the radio use the AC Heat...that s it. I recently test drove a Model S P90D. Other than the car being a bit bigger it surpassed my already high expectations of performance. I was overwhelmed with the information it displayed the bells and whistles (the door handles the touchscreen the ability to adjust the aerodynamics of the car) and everything else it has to offer. I honestly remember so little about the test drive because I felt like I was in a dream. It felt like the test drive was over before it even started. As it should be it is clearly an upgrade over my beautiful black interior black paint black wheeled AMG in every conceivable way...you could almost say it is too much. My biggest fear with the Model 3 as a Tesla investor has been How can you make a $35 000-$40 000 car with all of that in it? . The recent conference call and information from Elon has quelled my fears. The Model 3 as I see it will be like my AMG. The doors won t open for me as I walk towards them the door handles won t present themselves to me and the car won t be designed with a dashboard that I only look at to see if I need gas and it may not be the fanciest thing on earth (although I think the touchscreen on its own makes it in a class of it s own)...but that is okay with me - on both an investor level and personal level. Not everyone needs the fancy add-on to have an enjoyable experience...but that s why we have the Model S and X (New and CPO) for those who do want those things. I still haven t decided if I will buy a CPO-Model S (P85 P85+) w AP 1.0 or buy a New-Model 3 when the time comes. I know I d enjoy and love all the special things that the Model S offers but I ve been driving an AMG without all of those things for years and I ve loved every minute of it. As an investor I want Tesla to attract all consumers. I want a variety of cars that offer choices to people of all stripes without sacrificing what makes a Tesla what it is. I want the company to profit and become a centerpiece of the American car industry. I believe the Model S the Model X and the Model 3 (and eventually Model Y) will do just that. As a driver I want a car like my AMG that doesn t cost me approximately $1 500 a year on average on emissions fuel tank issues and drives great looks great and feels great. In addition I m tired of paying $2 000 a year on gas. It appears that the Model 3 will be that car. | itiswhatitisntyaknow | 2017-03-25 23:33:05 | 62 | dfeziyp | Clearly OP hasn t seen the cost of the yearly Tesla Maintenance plan lol | tkrynsky | 2017-03-26 03:07:27 | 26 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
nog8hk | As someone who loves Tesla chrome deletes (as I ve done to my 2020 Model 3) I think you should have the option to chose Chrome or Black exterior trim for when building Teslas. Similar to the new choice of interior accent (wood or carbon fiber) in the Model S. | I think most Teslas look excellent with black trim but some look really good with chrome as well. I find it odd to not offer a choice as the chrome offers a more luxurious look (moat complementary with blue or red imo) and the black trim is for a sportier look. | brandonjc002 | 2021-05-30 17:40:47 | 23 | h00etzl | Little options like this slow down the production lines leading to astronomical costs for Tesla. It s not realistic to pass these costs along to customers hence why they let the aftermarket handle this. | pizza9012 | 2021-05-30 20:38:05 | 29 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
8lqbr9 | As summoned Media gets wild over Elons media tweets | Well what was to be expected? After Elons tweets about distorted reporting by the the media in classic fashion reacts with distorted reports. From the German media: **Rubbish from start to finish** [Die Welt - Elon Musk blames media for Tesla s misery](https: amp-welt-de.cdn.ampproject.org v s amp.welt.de wirtschaft article176626708 Elektorautobauer-Elon-Musk-gibt-Medien-die-Schuld-fuer-Teslas-Misere.html?amp_js_v=a1& amp_gsa=1#amp_tf=Von%20%251%24s& ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Farticle176626708%2FElektorautobauer-Elon-Musk-gibt-Medien-die-Schuld-fuer-Teslas-Misere.html) **clickbait headline but article is short and simply reports what happend** [N-tv - Attack on big media Elon Musk looses his nerve](https: www.n-tv.de 20447774) | GimmeThatIOTA | 2018-05-24 05:45:05 | 27 | dzhnbxw | Honestly I feel like he s a bit ridiculous lately. I m a big fan of what the guy is doing but come on...just roll with the punches and let your actions speak for themselves. | Bernese_Flyer | 2018-05-24 06:21:56 | 43 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
hcojpd | Asking Tesla about the Founder s Series Roadster | So I was at a sales center in the Denver area yesterday and asked the sales staff if they knew anything about the Founder s Series roadster. The manager confirmed to me that there are still reservations available and that it is understood that the car would come in the highest specification configurable. This was news to me because from what I can tell most people I ve seen post ask about it don t seem to really know the details for sure. I m wondering if anyone has had a similar experience asking Tesla recently or knows anything else about the car? Thanks! | areyoukitt3n | 2020-06-20 15:54:07 | 16 | fvga9cu | I m definitely familiar with asking Tesla folks things in the store and getting very definitive answers complete with references to senior people and having those answers be incorrect. | jpbeans | 2020-06-20 16:24:50 | 45 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
gfhgr7 | Asking for Advice on Purchasing the Tesla Model S | I ve been a long time supporter of Tesla and it s vehicles though I haven t yet owned one. I now plan on buying the Model S within the next month or two. I was curious to know what insight you might be able to share on my following concerns: \- I m in the U.K and the only used inventory of the Model S are 2016 models which brings me to the question: is the 2016 model (for a price tag of USD$50k - USD$59k) worth the cost? \- What are the main cons of the 2016 model in comparison to newer models and is the 2016 model desirable? \- Is there an optimal model year (price to capacity ratio) which is generally agreed to be the peak of the Model S? \- Which is better in your personal opinion assuming both were the same price: the Model S 2016 **OR** the Model 3 2019 2020? I really appreciate any information you might be willing to offer it will definitely aid in the process of making my final decision. I hope to be on the road with one of these cars soon! | Parody_Clothing | 2020-05-07 23:11:02 | 19 | fptppz1 | ITT: Model 3 owners who say that only an idiot would buy an old S over a 3. The 3 will be a smaller more nimble newer car with fresher interior and (generally) electronics. For the year and mileage it will be cheaper. The S is a capable cruiser larger heavier older but still up to date in most ways. An S will likely have a heated steering wheel height- and maybe firmness- adjustable suspension an instrument cluster that gives you a bunch more visual space for basic driving tasks more rear legroom a power trunk liftgate over the 3. You can upgrade all the electronics from a recent S (autopilot 2.0+) to the current state of the art for an MCU2 or FSD purchase if you find them lacking. Ask yourself if you d rather have the previous generation M5 or the current generation s M3 or 340 and it s a pretty similar comparison. | serendipity81 | 2020-05-07 23:56:35 | 18 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
boarsv | Asking for a friend... | & #x200B [ I caught this truck passing by on TeslaCam during my morning AutoPilot commute to work. We re already taking steps to save the world and a kidney is a lot to ask of a person but hopefully this reaches the right person and saves a life as well! \(Tampa FL\) ](https: i.redd.it apxdu6c282y21.jpg) | ArkayRobo | 2019-05-13 23:11:20 | 51 | endz7zf | For once we can like a pickup truck driver | TheBurtReynold | 2019-05-13 23:28:05 | 27 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
68vssz | Asking the community on your thoughts about Job Post Questions and other things... | Almost daily there are posts which are asked about how to get a job at Tesla how to get an in etc. Obviously if someone meets the job requirements and Tesla interviews the folks and they like them then they are likely to be hired. But I have to ask if we should limit these or stop them to some extent and these questions should be considered common sense if you meet the qualifications of said job posting. On a side note: I opened discussion with other mods about an hour ago about being more strict on low quality sharing incorrect information and expanding common questions and repetitive content . I did this before an anonymous someone reported a bunch asking where we mods are I was already on it thanks. | 110110 | 2017-05-02 20:44:56 | 17 | dh1o8un | I d be happy to see the job questions either dumped or limited to a thread. They re usually worthless - full of assumptions and guesses - and people that do know usually can t say. Apply for a job and get it on your merits or being persistent through LinkedIn or a recruiter. Fishing reddit won t get you anywhere. | dirtyfries | 2017-05-02 20:47:04 | 17 | Evolution of Tesla Subreddit |
757znc | Aspheric wing mirrors to eliminate blind spots completely | Compared to aspheric (convex) wing mirrors people have said how claustrophobic US wing mirrors are. You can get them in Europe and they re quite popular in China. For the US however the NHTSA are considering legalizing aspheric mirrors but unfortunately haven t done so yet. Here s a nice video of aspheric mirrors in action: https: www.youtube.com watch?v=fGyIWTCUtMg They eliminate blind spots so you never need to look over your shoulder. Unlike those small clip-on mirrors you get a completely seamless view. And unlike adjusting your mirrors outwards with standard flat mirrors you get to see behind you (including a bit of your car s side if you wish and any nearby cyclists!). Getting rid of wing mirrors completely is one of Tesla s goals of course but that s still a way off and even then judging distance will be harder on a screen compared to a mirror. Now for the Tesla related questions: 1: Does the Model S that s sold in Europe use these aspherical mirrors (for both passenger and driver side)? 2: Can you easily remove Tesla s poor flat wing mirrors and replace them with aspherical wing mirrors? Has anyone here done that and is it legal in the US? Does it heavily affect your car s insurance if done in Europe or the US? 3: Have Tesla mentioned ever aspherical wing mirrors or hope to implement them in the future? | twinbee | 2017-10-09 09:35:32 | 15 | do4iaq8 | As a eruopean who have had this on several cars I ve driven: IT DOES NOT COMPLETELY ELMINATE BLIND SPOTS. CHECK YOUR BLIND SPOT! | jehilla | 2017-10-09 15:54:29 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
hg3s8d | Assistance figuring out usage cost | So I recently got my model 3 and am charging it at home with a 32 amp 240 volt plug. My kWh price is about 8 cents. My question: How do I figure out how many kWh s it takes to charge the math to figure out the cost per charge or per month? Thanks all! | HRA8996 | 2020-06-26 08:27:04 | 11 | fw1u1ou | You might want to look into the [Stats app](https: apps.apple.com us app stats-for-tesla-model-s-x-3 id1191100729) (or similar) which is getting data from the car and then also lets you input electricity and gas prices so you can graphically look at costs savings and how your Tesla compares to others. It also highlights things like phantom drain and locations where it occurs (so for example you can make decisions on what features to leave on while parked). | grumpybaboon | 2020-06-26 10:55:04 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
5vtte7 | Assuming there is no HUD...Where do the autopilot visualizations go? | Ok so as much as everyone seems hellbent on there being a HUD The more Elon says the less likely it seems. Elon saying that the model 3 only has one screen in reference to it being simpler than he model S X. I am not that upset about the lack of HUD just seems like a source of issues to me and plenty of people seem to be okay with center speedometers(mini scion etc) My one concern is the autopilot visualizations. Putting your speed at the top left corner of the horizontal screen seems like a good enough fix but for the visualizations of line markers and cars around you I can t see a reasonable way to depict that without just staring at the center console and even that means losing center console real estate. Any thoughts? | CmonYouKnowMe | 2017-02-23 23:05:17 | 35 | de4u6ck | One *screen* = = one *display.* | stevejust | 2017-02-23 23:32:24 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
b1z137 | At Home Delivery With Trade In Experience | Didn t see too many of these here so I figured I d give a quick write up. Had my SR+ delivered at my house today and traded in my old car at the same time. Short version is it went incredibly well. The Tesla rep drove the car to my house (or - not on a flatbed they drove my model 3 here) we signed about 10 pages of papers for the car and the trade in. This took under 10 minutes. Very Painless. After that we spent about 15-20 minutes going over the cars features and main computer functions. He was very thorough about what my version included (partial premium) and what it didn t. We paired the key cards and the phone app showed me those features as well. I did a once over on the car to catch any of the issues in the model 3 delivery checklist and didn t see any the car is perfect. Then he drove my old car away. I have heard in other scenarios they all for an Uber back to the service center. All in all it was about 30-40 minutes most of which was in the car. Obviously there are small risks associated with a home delivery but this was a very good experience for me. | lonnie123 | 2019-03-16 23:55:12 | 45 | eip5l02 | Mine was delivered at my job off a semi with a bunch of other deliveries. Much that same as yours but we didn t go over anything about the car. Drove my old car to work drove my Tesla home. | DiachronicShear | 2019-03-17 00:21:11 | 12 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
j2nr4e | At a service center listening to the Tesla team discuss end of quarter push strategy—exciting stuff! | Nothing confidential to report but as I m waiting for my car I can clearly hear the team talk about the number of deliveries today plus the “overage” from a nearby center they are taking on to help end the quarter. A lot of “clear the lot” verbiage being mentioned plus trying to match potential buyers into vehicles that are on site. It s great to see them tying to match a vehicle with the needs of a customer and not the other way around. Definitely high energy and a committed team. Go Tesla!!! | amdizack | 2020-09-30 15:01:02 | 72 | g76odyb | Doing my part by taking delivery of a 2020 Model 3 @ 5PM today! | David722 | 2020-09-30 16:16:34 | 68 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4d2g14 | At first the Model 3 dashboard bugged me but... | Looking at the dashboard of the Model [](#e) I originally just chalked it up to concept car design. I ve worked coverage of the Detroit auto show a few years and many of the concept cars are full of nutty interiors that never make it to production. Then it dawned on me. This car is being designed right off the bat to be a driverless design. If you re not driving the car why do you need a dashboard at all? You re just a passenger. I wouldn t be surprised if the steering wheels and pedals are designed to be easily removed later once they become unnecessary. It s designed to get in enter a destination and let the car drive you where you want to go. | samcrut | 2016-04-02 17:38:09 | 13 | d1n6mey | I m sure that s what the part two reveal will be. Elon said autopilot hardware will be in every car. They need to get their margins up the easiest way to just sell the autopilot upgrade. If it s driving itself around I don t see many people not upgrading They get to take in another $3k per car while advertising the $35k price. | 3rdm4n | 2016-04-02 18:02:07 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
93zofd | At first I didn t think 2000fps would be an improvement over 200fps but then I realized... | **Sorry for the click-bait title.** On the Investor call on 8 1 the AP hardware team bragged about drop in replacement hardware that could provide an order of magnitude better frame-rate capabilities for existing and new AP 2.0 2.5 cars. They specifically said this hardware would reach 2000fps while existing AP hardware only does 200fps. I understand that humans drive vehicles with varying degrees of success with an effective framerate of 60-300fps. Initially I thought FPS is not the bottleneck. I wasn t convinced that this change would lead to a rapid improvement in AP capabilities. # Then I remembered there are 8 cameras in the AP 2.0 2.5 HW suite. 200fps 8 cameras = 25 frames per camera per second 2000fps 8cameras = 250 frames per camera per second Obviously there are more dimensions to consider in regards to AP performance. For the time being I ve been able to convince myself that this is a valuable development. | moneyfink | 2018-08-02 14:21:09 | 89 | e3h3tup | From watching Karpathy s lecture on Neural networks I gathered that one of the difficulties with NN s is that adding complexity to the problem exponentially increases the NN. Sort of like roots on a tree. Obviously Tesla AI team saw there was a hardware bottleneck coming and got ahead of it. Really forward thinking on their part now the software can catch up to the hardware rather than the other way around. | OptimisticViolence | 2018-08-02 14:27:36 | 54 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
bpbje7 | At home charging suggestions | Hey all Next month I m going to order my M3 standard range but first I m I ve got redo my electrical at my house(it was built in 1964) for insurance safety reasons. While I have electrician what would be the charging plug to get installed? What are my options? | aaron2888 | 2019-05-16 11:47:28 | 20 | enr7m0f | While the general consensus on this sub is that a 14-50 is best I disagree. The Tesla wall connector looks better charges faster has the possibility of daisy chaining if you get multiple Tesla s later and can generally be easily converted to a 14-50 or other vehicle charging system when you move. | Ihaveamodel3 | 2019-05-16 12:37:20 | 18 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
g8n147 | At how many miles did you have to replace your first set of Tesla all-season tires? | Remade poll for better ranges. [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll g8n147) | RareRibeye | 2020-04-26 21:36:43 | 15 | fop2ggr | How many people just randomly selected one because they haven t had to get tires yet but wanted to see the results. Therefore making the results bogus. | Backdoorschoolbus | 2020-04-27 01:40:10 | 55 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
46hggl | At last Tesla now owns tesla.com | [Tesla.com](http: www.tesla.com) | Derfein | 2016-02-18 22:44:42 | 223 | d0561ki | at least it s not forwarding to Donald Trump s website :) | armyanmar | 2016-02-18 23:19:58 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dvn7au | At last one-pedal driving which brings the car to a stop. I am loving this new Hold Mode. | I just got the 36.2.1 update and I spent half an hour driving around the neighborhood just to try out one-pedal driving. I am loving it! I tried it with Regen set to Low then with Regen set to Standard. Low Regen + Hold Mode is okay but I prefer the Standard Regen + Hold combination. The quicker onset of the more powerful standard regen braking at higher speeds hands off nicely to the Hold mode braking taking over at 5 mph down. It continues linearly to a full stop. I normally prefer Low Regen + Roll mode but with this new combination it brings a new and enjoyable driving experience. There are six combinations possible now and should fit most preferences: \[Low or Standard Regen\] x \[Creep Roll or Hold\]. It s very well done and hats off the software and driving dynamics team. It would come close to perfect once we get the full spectrum combinations of \[None (coast) Low Medium & High Regen\] x \[Creep Roll or Hold\]. Tesla you are outdoing yourself and leaving other car companies way behind. Our fellow drivers not on a Tesla are really missing out on these tech evolutions. There s continuous opportunities to make the driving experience better and better with just software. How cool is that. | Derfein | 2019-11-13 05:44:40 | 165 | f7e6pvf | Just got the update last night and did a round trip to pick up my wife from an event without ever once touching the brake. Cool stuff. Also seems to me that the regen is more aggressive. We re in a cold snap right now the regen is limited but even factoring that in where I would normally take my foot of the accelerator as I approached a stop the car was stopping much shorter than earlier in the day. | RobbieRobb | 2019-11-13 12:37:58 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
78nsh5 | At this time do we have any official information on the power torque and energy capacity of the Model 3? | Monroney sticker pictures perhaps? | Derfein | 2017-10-25 13:50:13 | 29 | dovb47j | Yes the EPA document for the Model 3 LR (aka Model 3 80) can be found [here](https: www3.epa.gov otaq datafiles CSI-HTSLV00.0L13.PDF). Based on this document we know the following: * 78.27 kWh usable battery capacity. See page 6 footer. * 80.5 kWh total battery capacity. This is calculated from 350V * 230 Ah= 80 500 Wh. 350V and 230Ah are mentioned on page 3. * 89.4 kWh wall consumption for a full charge. See page 6. * 258 HP motor. See page 4. Notice that this is the maximum HP the motor can deliver if the battery is not the limiting factor. * Based on the dyno test scores on this document the Model 3 80 scored 334 mi EPA rated range and Tesla voluntarily lowered it to 310 miles. See the thread I created [here](https: model3ownersclub.com threads model-3-80-scored-334-miles-epa-rated-range-but-tesla-voluntarily-lowered-it-to-310-miles.4950 ). * In addition to the dyno scores the fuel efficiency numbers on the Monroney sticker ([link](https: i.imgur.com hk0fEOf.jpg)) also confirm 334 mi EPA. Those numbers are not affected by voluntary range reductions. In short the Model 3 80 has the same range as the Model 100D. EPA rated range is 96% accurate for the Model 3 80 and 91% for the Model S. | Teslike | 2017-10-25 15:04:24 | 58 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
1z3zmr | At what income can you justify buying a model S? | I was close to pulling the trigger recently but then I talked myself out of it considering a stacked Chevy volt would be less than half the cost. Then again I ve got a good income and what the hell else am I going to do with it? Edit: Thanks for all the responses everybody. You ve provided some great viewpoints. | thisdudegottheruns | 2014-02-27 19:29:04 | 13 | cfqhvxj | I think you are asking the wrong question. In my view there is no way to justify a car. It is a product the depreciates and if you have a mode of transportation that is reliable currently there is no reason to get one. If you have the money to get a Model S for instance but you already drive a Volt Mustang Any car then the best justifiable way to use your money is to pay off current debts or invest in your future through retirement or other means. While I was deciding on ordering the car I had a long thread on the teslamotorsclub.com forum and one post stuck out to me that buying a car is an emotional decision. It is not a logical decision. I don t think I will ever be able to justify buying the Model S financially. But I will be able to justify it emotionally in the you only live once category. | Bardlebee | 2014-02-27 23:47:12 | 17 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
i2y61i | Atlanta area Tesla owners | I m about to order my first Tesla and across numerous forums I ve seen horror stories of certain Tesla locations service centers. From incompetent staff to tools being left in on Teslas that are discovered by owners later etc. I personally don t know any other Tesla owners in the Atlanta area. How are your experiences at the Atlanta based service centers? The closest service center for me is in Decatur but was generally curious about how these are with my upcoming vehicle. Thanks! | jmacrosof | 2020-08-03 14:38:59 | 21 | g07nfrf | I ve had great service at the Marietta service center. Mobile service can handle a lot too. | EleventhHero | 2020-08-03 14:46:19 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ddqhbh | Atlanta area Tesla owners..(or any Tesla owner in an insanely populated traffic heavy city) | In the market to finally become a Tesla owner. Did a test drive and loved it. My only concern is the absolutely insane drivers and traffic Atlanta has. How has your experience been with your Tesla commuting the insanity that is Atlanta traffic? Do you use the auto pilot mode during this traffic? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. | jmacrosof | 2019-10-05 17:41:40 | 14 | f2lxygb | Once you are in the lane you need to be in it works great. Way less stressful. Also if you get the EV plate you can use some HOV lanes with only one person in the car and the I 85 Peach pass express lane for free. There is also Nav on Autopilot which you get with the Full Self Driving option ($6 000). It will automatically change lanes into a faster moving lane and take exits for you. It works but doesn t work exactly how I would like so most of the time I change lanes myself. | ThaiTum | 2019-10-05 18:17:45 | 13 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
bww9zj | Attacked by motorcyclist today and used the Model 3 dashcam feature for first time | Today I was driving on I-880 North using the Autopilot and I was attacked by a motorcyclist. & #x200B Tesla Model 3 Dashcam feature captured the entire incident but I found the resolution to be very low and I couldn t really read the license plate from it. I think Tesla Dashcam might not be sufficient to capture Hit & Run situation as currently is. It was very dangerous to drive without back-mirror so I had to open Windows lean over and pull the mirror back to original position. while the car in Auto-pilot. After I got back home I found that I can t to report it online to Highway Patrol. It is required me to go to their office physically to file any report which is very time consuming and likely not worth it. I guess this is how those people got away with their actions. & #x200B Video when the attack happen. [https: youtu.be kfThztvMH8I](https: youtu.be kfThztvMH8I) & #x200B Edit: I was primary want to show the video quality of Tesla Dashcam not sufficient to catch bad people but it s pretty surprising how much people can make assumption on what happened out of nothing. I was in Auto-Pilot going straight in Carpool lane for a while. The motorcyclist just mad because his bike is very wide and have little space to pass. I also want to point that if I get into accident without rare mirror who is going to be responsible for the accident? It s an attack for me since my safety is being threatened. Longer version of video just so people don t imaging things too much https: youtu.be XggoWE_h1Fs Edit 2: Woo! I feel famous now news article are writing about it using incorrect information with obsolete screenshot. News https: electrek.co 2019 06 05 tesla-lane-splitting-motorcycle-hitting-model-3-autopilot Actual government website https: www.dmv.ca.gov portal dmv detail about lane_splitting | yorkhung | 2019-06-05 00:26:48 | 22 | eq0ujq0 | Kinda a weak attack. I mean it s a dick move for sure but I don t feel the word attack is accurate. | ZacharyGreenquist | 2019-06-05 00:31:52 | 115 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
bphfxp | Attempted Carjacking at Supercharge Station | See twitter user:[Master George](https: twitter.com Junglistic1)[Junglistic1](https: twitter.com Junglistic1): [https: twitter.com Junglistic1](https: twitter.com Junglistic1) Attempted Carjacking at Buckeye AZ Supercharge Station (Not me)!!! See Post: Good thing Tesla has Sentry Mode - I was nearly car jacked a few days ago. I am sharing the link to the public now. [https: drive.google.com file d 1alTf2-EvlDTtFSUYKjd21lmWoVFb7CSt view?usp=drivesdk …](https: t.co h4DsTd5CX7) They guy was arrested. & #x200B & #x200B [Buckeye AZ](https: reddit.com link bphfxp video twevx45qrmy21 player) | tesalover | 2019-05-16 20:09:27 | 16 | enuefce | I am so confused. Did someone jump out of the back window at the end? Who is the bad guy? Where did he come from? ¯\_(ツ)_ ¯ | TheNocturnalTexan | 2019-05-17 01:22:13 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
98eiah | Attended a car show... | Attended a car show today a pretty small one in rural MD I didn t really think I would actually register my car for the show but after seeing what they had to offer I went ahead and registered it. Of course they had a lot a classic cars and a few newer Mustangs and Camaros I figured mine would be the only Model 3 and it was. Popped up the frunk to show off.... nothing... pretty funny actually next to custom cars with their huge V8 s and chromed out everything. As I expected not a lot of people even knew what kind of car it was some people knew it was a Tesla but commented I like my loud V8 s ... I can respect that I still enjoy a nicely tuned exhaust. There were a few that were very into it after learning it was electric its range speed and charging options.... even the price. The funny part came when I won a door prize went to collect at the registration area and won a free oil and filter change from the local garage.... ah the irony... After laughing that off I went and exchanged it for some micro fiber towels and a t-shirt... pretty good time though. Was really surprised how car people are so unaware of Tesla s... blows my mind. | soontobeaM3owner | 2018-08-18 20:03:43 | 155 | e4fdhdp | You weren t thinking ahead when you created your username | jjwardSD | 2018-08-18 20:13:08 | 64 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
do55d5 | Attention All Model X Owners---Considering a Pre Owned X. Would love to hear your feedback | Hello fellow Tesla enthusiasts! I am an early buyer with a 2014 S85 now more than five years old and paid for! Love to see the growth of this community and the company itself. Also love my S85. I have had a few issues as many of the earlier owners did (replaced my drive train under warranty multiple door handles both of the big beautiful display screens). Some of those things were out of pocket and some were not. Bottom line I love my car and hope to drive it another decade or more (at some point buying a newer better battery which I likely hopefully won t need for a long time). So now that my vehicle is paid for we are looking for a pre owned Model X for my wife. In my search here I don t see much recent (at all) in terms of Falcon Wing door issues. I was wondering if I could get some feedback from X owners (please specify year of your vehicle and a few specs) mostly on any issues they have had with Falcon Wing doors or anything else that may have been an issue. Everything I have seen has led me to believe these issues are mostly resolved. (Looking at 2016 and later Model X pre owned just for reference) . For Context my wife and I watched the Model X reveal on a lengthy road trip in my S85 (4 200 miles round trip). We have been excited about buying one for a very long time I just want to make sure we know what issues we may run into or if most of those things are non-issues these days. Any MX owners we would love your feedback----good bad or indifferent. I have plenty of friends (as well as myself) in the S and plenty of feedback on the 3 from friends who are owners. I just don t know very many X owners although I see them frequently out of the road:) | tturedditor | 2019-10-28 06:38:39 | 31 | f5kcgvr | Rich rebuilds actually [just did a video](https: youtu.be qnUM0OWB0dM) about a week or two ago about common model x issues. It was a pretty informative video I would suggest you check it out. Linked for convenience. | Samtheman001 | 2019-10-28 10:53:01 | 35 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
6ccgxr | Attention CPO Buyers: You will have the same Supercharger benefit as New buyers | Specifically if you bought your car before 1 15 17 you will have Free Lifetime Supercharging that follows you when you buy a new S X. If you bought your car after 1 15 17 you will have Free Supercharging for as long as you own the car. If you sell or trade that car in the Free Supercharging follows that car to it s new owner but you will lose it if you upgrade to a new S X. Hopefully this explanation will be useful to somebody. I ordered a CPO on 5 1 but have not received it yet. My account does not have the Free Lifetime Supercharging but the car does have Free Supercharging. | unknown_soldier_ | 2017-05-20 20:13:29 | 55 | dhtnolt | Ordered my car on 5 1 also and still haven t received it yet. Where are you from ? Wouldn t surprise me if it took us 40 - 50 days to receive our cars. Tesla doesn t seem to be too motivated to close a 70k+ sale | FWG60D | 2017-05-20 21:37:43 | 8 | Issues with Tesla Referral Program |
g8vslu | Attention New Tesla Owners - Welcome to Autopilot Training! Re: Stoplight sign Detection Beta | # Hello and welcome to the newest flavor of Autopilot Beta functionality this time as Stopping at Stoplights and Stop Signs! For those of you who are veteran Tesla owners and you vividly remember training the Neural Net for auto lane changes you know exactly what this post is about and this is nothing new to you. For the rest of you who are new -- Welcome to Autopilot Training! You may have received your Tesla after Navigate on Autopilot for highways and freeways was first released. If you didn t know that feature was actually a very long work in progress and the lane change portion of that feature that we all use today didn t even exist on early Model 3 s back in 2018. Now that this feature has been tested and used hundreds of thousands of times it has gotten really really good and works almost flawlessly. So that s just exactly the point I d like to make here in this letter to new Tesla owners -- If you re willing to put in the minimal effort required to train this new stopping Neural Net thank you for your contributions! Drive as naturally as you can and hit on the brakes as soon as you realize the car has done something bad or unsafe. If you d rather NOT test this feature (because you may risk potentially looking like a jackass Tesla driver because of sudden movements or stops ) please don t bash this new feature for how poorly it s doing in its current state. Like Auto Lane Change in its early stages this feature might not work that great for quite a few months until the Autopilot Team at Tesla HQ has received enough training data to make it as phenomenal a feature as Auto Lane Change is today. In either case thank you for training the Neural Net in shadow mode or not and the community as a whole really appreciates when everybody is not freaking out when the feature doesn t work 100% as intended in it s early BETA stages. ***Remember -- it s in BETA!*** Cheers and let s keep training! Here s to perfect stopping by the end of 2020! Best *Mr. Mousk* | ElonMousk | 2020-04-27 07:13:36 | 93 | foq8gez | > Remember -- it s in BETA! ...along with literally every other Autopilot feature. | archbish99 | 2020-04-27 11:23:46 | 27 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
9gks7h | Attention Wisconsin Buyers | As a Wisconsin resident here are three important facts I wish I knew before picking up my car in Illinois. 1. Tesla does not charge any sales tax on the purchase. When you get the PDF shortly before delivery you ll see those lines zeroed out. That s correct. This also means you can t finance the sales tax. 2. You have to do all the Wisconsin-related work yourself. You have to pay the sales tax register the vehicle with the DMV transfer plates etc. My delivery specialist said that Tesla will mail a welcome packet with the documents needed to complete these processes. 3. If you trade in a vehicle you will not get credit for the sales tax paid on that original purchase! This is all due to the strong dealership lobby in the state. Call your representatives if you d like this to change. UPDATE: Looking through Form-MV1 I might be wrong about number 3 above. There is a Less trade-in allowance line in the sales tax calculation so that s some potential good news. Bad news there is an annual $100 fee for electric vehicles. | hooliganfroth | 2018-09-17 14:28:11 | 70 | e64xpoh | > Bad news there is an annual $100 fee for electric vehicles. Get used to it. Right now electric cars aren t paying any fuel tax so they aren t contributing to paying for road maintenance. A fee like this is going to become commonplace unless we find a new way to pay for roads. | noiamholmstar | 2018-09-17 15:36:11 | 32 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bxwmru | Attention anyone considering a Chrome wrap don t try it. | I recently got a chrome blue wrap and ever since then my autopilot and even cruise control has stopped working with an autopilot temporarily disabled and front radar visibility reduced notification. I called the body shop that did the wrap and explained the situation. They said they were going to talk to the service center and try to figure out the problem then they called back the next morning and said that the front radar probably just needs to be re-calibrated and that I should just take it into a service center and get it fixed. I called the service center and explained my situation again. The guy on the phone said that based on what I told him it probably does just need to be re-calibrated and that I can do a walk in whenever they re open. I am now waiting in the lobby and have been told several times that re-calibrating the radar won t fix the issue that they have tried with several chrome wrapped model 3 s to no avail and that there is no way to fix the issue without getting rid of the wrap I just spent $4000 on. I m upset to say the least. Update: This is officially a loss. 2nd update: after having a procedure done to get autopilot to work by replacing a patch over the radar with gloss wrap I m pleasantly surprised by how subtle the result is and am changing the message of this post from don t bother to know what you re getting into. | Johnnyamaz | 2019-06-07 16:28:31 | 61 | eqa5snt | Thanks for letting me know. I will continue to not chrome wrap my car. | _ohm_my | 2019-06-07 16:43:40 | 147 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
32vnu2 | Attention to detail | Today I discovered a cool and subtle feature of my Model S. The windshield wiper fluid button does not activate the wipers if you re not sitting in the drivers seat presumably to facilitate exactly what I was doing: spot treating the windshield manually. In fact I was so impressed by this thoughtful detail that I decided to post about it on Reddit. Also: a hero left a squeegee at the Centralia WA supercharger. | njaard | 2015-04-17 02:22:56 | 71 | cqf7al7 | It wasn t always so well thought out. You missed the good old days where they would activate as soon as you opened the drivers side door if the windshield was wet dousing the driver as they were trying to get in. | Scriptacus | 2015-04-17 05:28:32 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
99fce9 | Attn Tesla: Please add Spotify to North American vehicles! | I ve seen it over and over again on this reddit twitter websites etc that owners in North America would really prefer Spotify in their vehicles over Slacker. I ve seen petitions created and tweet bombardments happen but there has yet to be an explanation as to why we cannot have this service (just theories and guesses). & #x200B To be clear: We don t need Tesla to pay for these spotify account just give us to ability to use our own spotify accounts to access our playlists and spotify library. Hopefully we can comment on this thread enough to allow people at Tesla to see this and let them know that we want Spotify! | ferrarienz00 | 2018-08-22 17:32:23 | 2,215 | e4n7v4d | To be clear we don t want Tesla to pay for a premium Spotify account for us we just want an integrated Spotify app to use our own paid Premium account with. | mjezzi | 2018-08-22 17:56:15 | 679 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
esommn | Attn WA Drivers: There is a proposed bill in the Senate that will charge you 3.5 cents mile - please comment on it | Mods: I know this isn t Tesla related but it affects every Tesla driver in WA. There is a Senate Bill being proposed that will charge electric cars 3.5 cents mile to pay for the roads. In WA this is equivalent to a 14mpg gas guzzler paying gas tax. Here is the bill in question: [https: apps.leg.wa.gov billsummary?BillNumber=6586& Initiative=false& Year=2019& fbclid=IwAR2k147sbyNhwekbVZVK9q7G16PhKb7bO7S3wo8C1\_KlHe4eeEDjIRRaYV8](https: apps.leg.wa.gov billsummary?BillNumber=6586& Initiative=false& Year=2019& fbclid=IwAR2k147sbyNhwekbVZVK9q7G16PhKb7bO7S3wo8C1_KlHe4eeEDjIRRaYV8) Please take the time to submit a comment through that site it s important that we let our Legislators and Senators know that the math doesn t work out and that it harms EV adoption. **UPDATE:** The bill is scheduled for a public hearing with the senate transportation committee on January 29th at 3:30pm. If you are able to attend please make your voice heard. If you cannot attend please write in. https: app.leg.wa.gov billsummary?billnumber=6586& year=2019& initiative=False **The Bill has been sent to the Senate Transportation Committee. Here are the members:** [http: leg.wa.gov Senate Committees TRAN Pages MembersStaff.aspx](http: leg.wa.gov Senate Committees TRAN Pages MembersStaff.aspx) **Please pick up the phones or tweet the members:** [https: twitter.com electhobbs](https: twitter.com electhobbs?fbclid=IwAR1ob70JS_uWe-eZ9R18vZN6M2HXk2mViwlb9TQXUlwglT0h7fJUQLKp-k0) [https: twitter.com SenSaldana](https: twitter.com SenSaldana?fbclid=IwAR3MSl-G6aN837Ms8UlNKZmr3kyE43eFunFbaAOyXkxvfEG0ZGxrQPh0IBo) [https: twitter.com sen\_acleveland](https: twitter.com sen_acleveland) [https: twitter.com monadas](https: twitter.com monadas) [https: twitter.com Phil\_Fortunato](https: twitter.com Phil_Fortunato) [https: twitter.com meetjoenguyen](https: twitter.com meetjoenguyen) [https: twitter.com steveoban](https: twitter.com steveoban) [https: twitter.com emilyrandallwa](https: twitter.com emilyrandallwa) [https: twitter.com hanszeiger](https: twitter.com hanszeiger) **My main points when tweeting calling them:** * 3.5 cents mile is equivalent to a Ford F-250 or 14mpg gas guzzler in gas tax. * Charging EVs more per mile than equivalent gas cars disincentivizes EV and Green Vehicle adoption. * Fuel efficient gas-only cars pay 1.3 to 1.8 cents per mile equivalent in gas tax (Mazda 3 and BMW 3 Series) I have emailed every Senator (except Hobbs) on the Senate Transportation Committee. Please do your part in doing so as well. Doing nothing here is essentially supporting this bill. You can email them by clicking their name in the Transportation Committee Member link (above) and emailing them. Please use my template as a starting ground if you wish: > Senator x > > As you are a member of the Senate Transportation Committee I am writing to you in opposition of SB 6586 and to provide some facts and comments on the matter: > > \- The proposed 3.5 cents per mile fee on Electric Vehicles is equivalent to the gas tax paid by 14mpg gas guzzers such as a the large Ford F-250 Pick up Truck. > > \- I believe that charging EVs more per mile than equivalent gas-only vehicles disincentivizes electric and green vehicle adoption which is something we should be increasing adoption of. > > \- For example fuel efficient gas-only cars pay an equivalent of 1.3 to 1.8 cents per mile in gas tax this is coming from the MPG numbers of a Mazda 3 and a BMW 3 series. > > Although I do not represent any interest group my views are mirrored by EV owners across the Pacific Northwest. > > Regards Courtesy of u Mr-Wabbit: > Also Twitter is great because it s public pressure but you can also email committee members directly: > > [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) > > Mods: These are all email addresses from the Senators websites I m not doxxing anyone. Not all Senators post their email addresses (they prefer calls snail mail twitter etc) so I haven t included those that don t. Some facts: A 30mpg car that drives 15 000 miles per year pays $247 in gas tax. Under this proposed fee 15 000 miles will be $525 ~~not counting the $225 EV Fees that we pay in WA (this is not guaranteed to be repealed by this bill)~~. Here are the sponsors of the bill: [https: twitter.com SenSaldana](https: twitter.com SenSaldana?fbclid=IwAR3MSl-G6aN837Ms8UlNKZmr3kyE43eFunFbaAOyXkxvfEG0ZGxrQPh0IBo) [https: twitter.com electhobbs](https: twitter.com electhobbs?fbclid=IwAR1ob70JS_uWe-eZ9R18vZN6M2HXk2mViwlb9TQXUlwglT0h7fJUQLKp-k0) [https: twitter.com markoliias](https: twitter.com markoliias?fbclid=IwAR1t9ac5KMM-Vgte_uy10LqQGkwR8p5bV16_diUKhsrMh230pIsx_KT8y48) < < **Marko Liias is very receptive and open to discussion on Twitter - Please politely send him your comments on Twitter if you wish and or if you are not a resident of WA state to submit a comment on the bill.** edit: **The $225 would be replaced by the pay-per-mile fee** (confirmed from tweeting with one of the Bill Sponsors). However it still stands that 3.5 cents mile is ridiculous. It s equivalent to a 14mpg car paying gas tax. For comparison a Mazda3 that gets 27 38mpg would pay 1.3-1.8 cents mile in equivalent gas tax. **~~edit 2: Pointed out by~~** u TheTim **~~The per-mile fee would go into effect in 2020 while the $225 EV Fees wouldn t be repealed until 2024. Now this is a scam!~~** edit 3: Sen. Marko Liias clarified: [https: twitter.com MarkoLiias status 1220391940144844801](https: twitter.com MarkoLiias status 1220391940144844801) The Bill would go into effect July 1 2020 but the actual fee doesn t start until 2024. Thanks for the silver kind stranger! | kchau | 2020-01-23 05:23:57 | 1,659 | ffbami2 | As a WA resident this is total BS. As stated we just got another hike as a penalty for having a car that goes more than 35 miles on a charge now they want to charge even MORE on top of that?! EDIT - Due to above changes it would appear this would replace the current flat EV tabs tax. I still oppose this for many reasons: - Oregon has adopted a similar pay by mile system however since the funds are to be used only to support roads in the state this means that the state government has to track where you are so that you were only build for driving on roads within the state. - No state currently has an enclosed system that allows them to track your vehicle so they have been outsourcing these to 3rd party companies which can not guarantee the security of your data. - The 3rd party tracking systems use require placing a dangle in your ODBII port and installing and app on your phone that collects and reports your travel data. In summary: I dont feel that the state should be doing any of this as it isn t done for a pay per gallon level you drive wherever you want without tracking or 3rd party in inolvement. A better system needs to be thought out that is fair to EV owners protects our privacy AND funds the building and maintenance of state infrastructure. | NetBrown | 2020-01-23 05:33:29 | 390 | EV Tax Credit Impact |
6r4t4k | Audi S4 vs. Fully Loaded Model 3 Comparison | Instead of base model configuration which you guys have seen a bunch already I configured a 2018 Audi S4 (on sale now) with driver assist package which is the rough equivalent of a Model 3 with long range battery premium and enhanced autopilot package. Here is a comparison of some of the premium features. Price does not include dealer incentive nor tax benefits. [Here is the exact configuration for the Audi]( https: www.audiusa.com audicode A23GQG3D). Not trying to say which car is better just did this for fun. Vehicle|Audi S4|Tesla Model 3 :-:|:-:|:-: Price|$57600: S4 + Prestige + Driver Assist Package|$54000: LR+Premium+Enhanced Auto Pilot **Performance**|| 0-60mph (mfr time)|4.4s|5.1s Top Speed|155mph|140mph Drive Configuration|AWD|RWD Fuel Economy|24MPG Combined|100+ MPGe CO2 Emission|0.80 lb mile|0 Range|~400mi|310mi Sports Suspension Differential|$2500|Not Available **Exterior**|| Metallic Paint|$575|$1000 18 Wheels|Standard|Standard 19 Wheels|$800-$1400|$1500 Sunroof|Standard|Full Glass Roof LED Headlights W Auto High Beam|YES|YES **Interior**|| Interior Trim|Aluminum|Open-Pored Genuine Wood Powered Seats|12 Way Adjustable W 4 Way Power Lumber Support|12 Way Adjustable Leather Interior|YES|Synthetic Heated Front Seats|YES|YES Cooled Seats|$950|Not Available Folding Rear Seats|40 20 40 Split|60 40 Split Premium Leather|$950-$1250 (Napa Milano Leather)|Not Available Heated Steering Wheel|$500 (include Heated Rear Seats)|Not Available Ambient LED interior lighting|YES|NO **Technology**|| Keyless Entry|YES|YES Remote Smartphone App|YES|YES Navigation|YES|YES Backup Camera|YES|YES Surround View Camera|YES|NO Head Up Display|YES|NO Self Parallel Parking|YES|YES Summon|NO|YES Infotainment|8.3 MMI + 12.3 Virtual Cockpit| 15 Touch Screen Driver Assist|Audi Traffic Jam Assist + Lane Keeping + Adaptive CC|Enhanced Autopilot Full Self Driving|Not Available| $3000 + Unknown Future Date Audio System|19 Speakers 755W B& O|Premium Sound (Unknown Spec) Apple CarPlay Android Auto|YES|Not Available OTA Updates|Infotainment Only|Full Vehicle Software Disclaimer: I did not compare safety features because it s hard. Model 3 s official crash results are not out yet and Audi includes a bunch of advanced active safety feature such as cross traffic detection and pre-crash systems. I assume both cars are very safe. Please let me know if I missed anything (I assume plenty). | cookingboy | 2017-08-02 15:10:31 | 57 | dl2abok | Let s be real honest here: Regardless of how you feel about Tesla Audi has some awesome shit. The S4 and A6 are very popular in my area. I don t love Audi s exterior styling (compared to MB s) but that s subjective. | majesticjg | 2017-08-02 15:19:44 | 53 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
g6zy0l | Audi copies Tesla s incentives page and forgets to delete part about Tesla | https: imgur.com a qGmKbZK Source: IG story of Vivien member of the Third Row Tesla Podcast: https: instagram.com flcnhvy Edit: Audi if you see this please don t fire the folks who did this. No one outside of the Tesla community knows of this and you already fixed the page. No harm done to your brand. It s just funny that s all. | Tesla_UI | 2020-04-24 02:08:06 | 7,827 | foe7dtt | Too bad its not as easy to copy Tesla s cars | upvotemeok | 2020-04-24 03:05:23 | 1,443 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
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