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Wow.
You know. So it 's We 're we 're doing better.
This is this is really good.
I mean , we 're getting better recognition. I mean , I 'm sure other people working on this are not sitting still either , but
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You know. So it 's We 're we 're doing better.
This is this is really good.
I mean , we 're getting better recognition. I mean , I 'm sure other people working on this are not sitting still either , but
Yeah.
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This is this is really good.
I mean , we 're getting better recognition. I mean , I 'm sure other people working on this are not sitting still either , but
Yeah.
but but , uh Uh , I mean , the important thing is that we learn how to do this better , and , you know. So. Um , Yeah. So , our , um Yeah , you can see the kind of kind of numbers that we 're having , say , on SpeechDat - Car which is a hard task , cuz it 's really , um I think it 's just sort of sort of reasonable numbers , starting to be. I mean , it 's still terri
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I mean , we 're getting better recognition. I mean , I 'm sure other people working on this are not sitting still either , but
Yeah.
but but , uh Uh , I mean , the important thing is that we learn how to do this better , and , you know. So. Um , Yeah. So , our , um Yeah , you can see the kind of kind of numbers that we 're having , say , on SpeechDat - Car which is a hard task , cuz it 's really , um I think it 's just sort of sort of reasonable numbers , starting to be. I mean , it 's still terri
Mm - hmm. Yeah , even for a well - matched case it 's sixty percent error rate reduction ,
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Yeah.
but but , uh Uh , I mean , the important thing is that we learn how to do this better , and , you know. So. Um , Yeah. So , our , um Yeah , you can see the kind of kind of numbers that we 're having , say , on SpeechDat - Car which is a hard task , cuz it 's really , um I think it 's just sort of sort of reasonable numbers , starting to be. I mean , it 's still terri
Mm - hmm. Yeah , even for a well - matched case it 's sixty percent error rate reduction ,
Yeah.
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but but , uh Uh , I mean , the important thing is that we learn how to do this better , and , you know. So. Um , Yeah. So , our , um Yeah , you can see the kind of kind of numbers that we 're having , say , on SpeechDat - Car which is a hard task , cuz it 's really , um I think it 's just sort of sort of reasonable numbers , starting to be. I mean , it 's still terri
Mm - hmm. Yeah , even for a well - matched case it 's sixty percent error rate reduction ,
Yeah.
which is
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Mm - hmm. Yeah , even for a well - matched case it 's sixty percent error rate reduction ,
Yeah.
which is
Yeah. Probably half. Good !
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Yeah.
which is
Yeah. Probably half. Good !
Um , Yeah. So actually , this is in between what we had with the previous VAD and what Sunil did with an IDL VAD. Which gave sixty - two percent improvement , right ?
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which is
Yeah. Probably half. Good !
Um , Yeah. So actually , this is in between what we had with the previous VAD and what Sunil did with an IDL VAD. Which gave sixty - two percent improvement , right ?
Yeah , it 's almost that.
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Yeah. Probably half. Good !
Um , Yeah. So actually , this is in between what we had with the previous VAD and what Sunil did with an IDL VAD. Which gave sixty - two percent improvement , right ?
Yeah , it 's almost that.
So
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Um , Yeah. So actually , this is in between what we had with the previous VAD and what Sunil did with an IDL VAD. Which gave sixty - two percent improvement , right ?
Yeah , it 's almost that.
So
It 's almost an average somewhere around
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Yeah , it 's almost that.
So
It 's almost an average somewhere around
Yeah.
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So
It 's almost an average somewhere around
Yeah.
Yeah.
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It 's almost an average somewhere around
Yeah.
Yeah.
What was that ? Say that last part again ?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
What was that ? Say that last part again ?
So , if you use , like , an IDL VAD , uh , for dropping the frames ,
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Yeah.
What was that ? Say that last part again ?
So , if you use , like , an IDL VAD , uh , for dropping the frames ,
o o Or the best we can get.
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What was that ? Say that last part again ?
So , if you use , like , an IDL VAD , uh , for dropping the frames ,
o o Or the best we can get.
the best that we can get i That means that we estimate the silence probability on the clean version of the utterances. Then you can go up to sixty - two percent error rate reduction , globally.
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So , if you use , like , an IDL VAD , uh , for dropping the frames ,
o o Or the best we can get.
the best that we can get i That means that we estimate the silence probability on the clean version of the utterances. Then you can go up to sixty - two percent error rate reduction , globally.
Mmm.
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o o Or the best we can get.
the best that we can get i That means that we estimate the silence probability on the clean version of the utterances. Then you can go up to sixty - two percent error rate reduction , globally.
Mmm.
Mmm Yeah.
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the best that we can get i That means that we estimate the silence probability on the clean version of the utterances. Then you can go up to sixty - two percent error rate reduction , globally.
Mmm.
Mmm Yeah.
So that would be even That wouldn't change this number down here to sixty - two ?
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Mmm.
Mmm Yeah.
So that would be even That wouldn't change this number down here to sixty - two ?
Yeah.
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Mmm Yeah.
So that would be even That wouldn't change this number down here to sixty - two ?
Yeah.
Yeah. So you you were get
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So that would be even That wouldn't change this number down here to sixty - two ?
Yeah.
Yeah. So you you were get
If you add a g good v very good VAD , that works as well as a VAD working on clean speech ,
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Yeah.
Yeah. So you you were get
If you add a g good v very good VAD , that works as well as a VAD working on clean speech ,
Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. So you you were get
If you add a g good v very good VAD , that works as well as a VAD working on clean speech ,
Yeah. Yeah.
then you wou you would go
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If you add a g good v very good VAD , that works as well as a VAD working on clean speech ,
Yeah. Yeah.
then you wou you would go
So that 's sort of the best you could hope for.
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Yeah. Yeah.
then you wou you would go
So that 's sort of the best you could hope for.
Mm - hmm.
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then you wou you would go
So that 's sort of the best you could hope for.
Mm - hmm.
I see.
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So that 's sort of the best you could hope for.
Mm - hmm.
I see.
Probably. Yeah. So fi si fifty - three is what you were getting with the old VAD.
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Mm - hmm.
I see.
Probably. Yeah. So fi si fifty - three is what you were getting with the old VAD.
Yeah.
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I see.
Probably. Yeah. So fi si fifty - three is what you were getting with the old VAD.
Yeah.
And , uh and sixty - two with the the , you know , quote , unquote , cheating VAD. And fifty - seven is what you got with the real VAD.
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Probably. Yeah. So fi si fifty - three is what you were getting with the old VAD.
Yeah.
And , uh and sixty - two with the the , you know , quote , unquote , cheating VAD. And fifty - seven is what you got with the real VAD.
Mm - hmm.
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Yeah.
And , uh and sixty - two with the the , you know , quote , unquote , cheating VAD. And fifty - seven is what you got with the real VAD.
Mm - hmm.
That 's great.
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And , uh and sixty - two with the the , you know , quote , unquote , cheating VAD. And fifty - seven is what you got with the real VAD.
Mm - hmm.
That 's great.
Uh , yeah , the next thing is , I started to play Well , I don't want to worry too much about the delay , no. Maybe it 's better to wait
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Mm - hmm.
That 's great.
Uh , yeah , the next thing is , I started to play Well , I don't want to worry too much about the delay , no. Maybe it 's better to wait
OK.
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That 's great.
Uh , yeah , the next thing is , I started to play Well , I don't want to worry too much about the delay , no. Maybe it 's better to wait
OK.
for the decision
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Uh , yeah , the next thing is , I started to play Well , I don't want to worry too much about the delay , no. Maybe it 's better to wait
OK.
for the decision
Yeah.
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OK.
for the decision
Yeah.
from the committee. Uh , but I started to play with the , um , uh , tandem neural network. Mmm I just did the configuration that 's very similar to what we did for the February proposal. And Um. So. There is a f a first feature stream that use uh straight MFCC features.
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for the decision
Yeah.
from the committee. Uh , but I started to play with the , um , uh , tandem neural network. Mmm I just did the configuration that 's very similar to what we did for the February proposal. And Um. So. There is a f a first feature stream that use uh straight MFCC features.
Mm - hmm.
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Yeah.
from the committee. Uh , but I started to play with the , um , uh , tandem neural network. Mmm I just did the configuration that 's very similar to what we did for the February proposal. And Um. So. There is a f a first feature stream that use uh straight MFCC features.
Mm - hmm.
Well , these features actually. And the other stream is the output of a neural network , using as input , also , these , um , cleaned MFCC. Um
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from the committee. Uh , but I started to play with the , um , uh , tandem neural network. Mmm I just did the configuration that 's very similar to what we did for the February proposal. And Um. So. There is a f a first feature stream that use uh straight MFCC features.
Mm - hmm.
Well , these features actually. And the other stream is the output of a neural network , using as input , also , these , um , cleaned MFCC. Um
Those are th those are th what is going into the tandem net ?
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Mm - hmm.
Well , these features actually. And the other stream is the output of a neural network , using as input , also , these , um , cleaned MFCC. Um
Those are th those are th what is going into the tandem net ?
I don't have the comp Mmm ?
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Well , these features actually. And the other stream is the output of a neural network , using as input , also , these , um , cleaned MFCC. Um
Those are th those are th what is going into the tandem net ?
I don't have the comp Mmm ?
Those two ?
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Those are th those are th what is going into the tandem net ?
I don't have the comp Mmm ?
Those two ?
So there is just this feature stream , the fifteen MFCC plus delta and double - delta.
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I don't have the comp Mmm ?
Those two ?
So there is just this feature stream , the fifteen MFCC plus delta and double - delta.
No.
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Those two ?
So there is just this feature stream , the fifteen MFCC plus delta and double - delta.
No.
Yeah ?
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So there is just this feature stream , the fifteen MFCC plus delta and double - delta.
No.
Yeah ?
Um , so it 's makes forty - five features that are used as input to the HTK. And then , there is there are more inputs that comes from the tandem MLP.
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No.
Yeah ?
Um , so it 's makes forty - five features that are used as input to the HTK. And then , there is there are more inputs that comes from the tandem MLP.
Oh , oh. OK. I see.
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Yeah ?
Um , so it 's makes forty - five features that are used as input to the HTK. And then , there is there are more inputs that comes from the tandem MLP.
Oh , oh. OK. I see.
Yeah , h he likes to use them both ,
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Um , so it 's makes forty - five features that are used as input to the HTK. And then , there is there are more inputs that comes from the tandem MLP.
Oh , oh. OK. I see.
Yeah , h he likes to use them both ,
Uh - huh.
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Oh , oh. OK. I see.
Yeah , h he likes to use them both ,
Uh - huh.
cuz then it has one part that 's discriminative ,
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Yeah , h he likes to use them both ,
Uh - huh.
cuz then it has one part that 's discriminative ,
Yeah. Um
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Uh - huh.
cuz then it has one part that 's discriminative ,
Yeah. Um
one part that 's not.
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cuz then it has one part that 's discriminative ,
Yeah. Um
one part that 's not.
Right. OK.
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Yeah. Um
one part that 's not.
Right. OK.
So , um , uh , yeah. Right now it seems that i I just tested on SpeechDat - Car while the experiment are running on your on TI - digits. Well , it improves on the well - matched and the mismatched conditions , but it get worse on the highly mismatched. Um ,
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one part that 's not.
Right. OK.
So , um , uh , yeah. Right now it seems that i I just tested on SpeechDat - Car while the experiment are running on your on TI - digits. Well , it improves on the well - matched and the mismatched conditions , but it get worse on the highly mismatched. Um ,
Compared to these numbers ?
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Right. OK.
So , um , uh , yeah. Right now it seems that i I just tested on SpeechDat - Car while the experiment are running on your on TI - digits. Well , it improves on the well - matched and the mismatched conditions , but it get worse on the highly mismatched. Um ,
Compared to these numbers ?
Compared to these numbers , yeah. Um ,
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So , um , uh , yeah. Right now it seems that i I just tested on SpeechDat - Car while the experiment are running on your on TI - digits. Well , it improves on the well - matched and the mismatched conditions , but it get worse on the highly mismatched. Um ,
Compared to these numbers ?
Compared to these numbers , yeah. Um ,
like , on the well - match and medium mismatch , the gain is around five percent relative , but it goes down a lot more , like fifteen percent on the HM case.
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Compared to these numbers ?
Compared to these numbers , yeah. Um ,
like , on the well - match and medium mismatch , the gain is around five percent relative , but it goes down a lot more , like fifteen percent on the HM case.
You 're just using the full ninety features ?
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Compared to these numbers , yeah. Um ,
like , on the well - match and medium mismatch , the gain is around five percent relative , but it goes down a lot more , like fifteen percent on the HM case.
You 're just using the full ninety features ?
The
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like , on the well - match and medium mismatch , the gain is around five percent relative , but it goes down a lot more , like fifteen percent on the HM case.
You 're just using the full ninety features ?
The
Y you have ninety features ?
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You 're just using the full ninety features ?
The
Y you have ninety features ?
i I have , um From the networks , it 's twenty - eight. So
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The
Y you have ninety features ?
i I have , um From the networks , it 's twenty - eight. So
And from the other side it 's forty - five.
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Y you have ninety features ?
i I have , um From the networks , it 's twenty - eight. So
And from the other side it 's forty - five.
So , d i It 's forty - five.
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i I have , um From the networks , it 's twenty - eight. So
And from the other side it 's forty - five.
So , d i It 's forty - five.
So it 's you have seventy - three features ,
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And from the other side it 's forty - five.
So , d i It 's forty - five.
So it 's you have seventy - three features ,
Yeah.
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So , d i It 's forty - five.
So it 's you have seventy - three features ,
Yeah.
and you 're just feeding them like that.
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So it 's you have seventy - three features ,
Yeah.
and you 're just feeding them like that.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
and you 're just feeding them like that.
Yeah.
There isn't any KLT or anything ?
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and you 're just feeding them like that.
Yeah.
There isn't any KLT or anything ?
Mm - hmm. There 's a KLT after the neural network , as as before.
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Yeah.
There isn't any KLT or anything ?
Mm - hmm. There 's a KLT after the neural network , as as before.
That 's how you get down to twenty - eight ?
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There isn't any KLT or anything ?
Mm - hmm. There 's a KLT after the neural network , as as before.
That 's how you get down to twenty - eight ?
Yeah.
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Mm - hmm. There 's a KLT after the neural network , as as before.
That 's how you get down to twenty - eight ?
Yeah.
Why twenty - eight ?
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That 's how you get down to twenty - eight ?
Yeah.
Why twenty - eight ?
I don't know.
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Yeah.
Why twenty - eight ?
I don't know.
Oh.
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Why twenty - eight ?
I don't know.
Oh.
Uh. It 's i i i It 's because it 's what we did for the first proposal. We tested , uh , trying to go down
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I don't know.
Oh.
Uh. It 's i i i It 's because it 's what we did for the first proposal. We tested , uh , trying to go down
Ah.
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Oh.
Uh. It 's i i i It 's because it 's what we did for the first proposal. We tested , uh , trying to go down
Ah.
It 's a multiple of seven.
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Uh. It 's i i i It 's because it 's what we did for the first proposal. We tested , uh , trying to go down
Ah.
It 's a multiple of seven.
and Yeah.
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Ah.
It 's a multiple of seven.
and Yeah.
Yeah.
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It 's a multiple of seven.
and Yeah.
Yeah.
So Um.
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and Yeah.
Yeah.
So Um.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So Um.
Yeah.
I wanted to do something very similar to the proposal as a first first try.
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So Um.
Yeah.
I wanted to do something very similar to the proposal as a first first try.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I wanted to do something very similar to the proposal as a first first try.
Yeah.
I see.
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I wanted to do something very similar to the proposal as a first first try.
Yeah.
I see.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I see.
Yeah.
Yeah. That makes sense.
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I see.
Yeah.
Yeah. That makes sense.
But we have to for sure , we have to go down , because the limit is now sixty features.
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Yeah.
Yeah. That makes sense.
But we have to for sure , we have to go down , because the limit is now sixty features.
Yeah.
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Yeah. That makes sense.
But we have to for sure , we have to go down , because the limit is now sixty features.
Yeah.
So , uh , we have to find a way to decrease the number of features. Um
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But we have to for sure , we have to go down , because the limit is now sixty features.
Yeah.
So , uh , we have to find a way to decrease the number of features. Um
So , it seems funny that I don't know , maybe I don't u quite understand everything , but that adding features I guess I guess if you 're keeping the back - end fixed. Maybe that 's it. Because it seems like just adding information shouldn't give worse results. But I guess if you 're keeping the number of Gaussians fixed in the recognizer , then
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Yeah.
So , uh , we have to find a way to decrease the number of features. Um
So , it seems funny that I don't know , maybe I don't u quite understand everything , but that adding features I guess I guess if you 're keeping the back - end fixed. Maybe that 's it. Because it seems like just adding information shouldn't give worse results. But I guess if you 're keeping the number of Gaussians fixed in the recognizer , then
Well , yeah.
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So , uh , we have to find a way to decrease the number of features. Um
So , it seems funny that I don't know , maybe I don't u quite understand everything , but that adding features I guess I guess if you 're keeping the back - end fixed. Maybe that 's it. Because it seems like just adding information shouldn't give worse results. But I guess if you 're keeping the number of Gaussians fixed in the recognizer , then
Well , yeah.
Mmm.
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So , it seems funny that I don't know , maybe I don't u quite understand everything , but that adding features I guess I guess if you 're keeping the back - end fixed. Maybe that 's it. Because it seems like just adding information shouldn't give worse results. But I guess if you 're keeping the number of Gaussians fixed in the recognizer , then
Well , yeah.
Mmm.
But , I mean , just in general , adding information Suppose the information you added , well , was a really terrible feature and all it brought in was noise.
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Well , yeah.
Mmm.
But , I mean , just in general , adding information Suppose the information you added , well , was a really terrible feature and all it brought in was noise.
Yeah.
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Mmm.
But , I mean , just in general , adding information Suppose the information you added , well , was a really terrible feature and all it brought in was noise.
Yeah.
Right ? So so , um Or or suppose it wasn't completely terrible , but it was completely equivalent to another one feature that you had , except it was noisier.
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But , I mean , just in general , adding information Suppose the information you added , well , was a really terrible feature and all it brought in was noise.
Yeah.
Right ? So so , um Or or suppose it wasn't completely terrible , but it was completely equivalent to another one feature that you had , except it was noisier.
Uh - huh.
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Yeah.
Right ? So so , um Or or suppose it wasn't completely terrible , but it was completely equivalent to another one feature that you had , except it was noisier.
Uh - huh.
Right ? In that case you wouldn't necessarily expect it to be better at all.
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Right ? So so , um Or or suppose it wasn't completely terrible , but it was completely equivalent to another one feature that you had , except it was noisier.
Uh - huh.
Right ? In that case you wouldn't necessarily expect it to be better at all.
Oh , yeah , I wasn't necessarily saying it should be better. I 'm just surprised that you 're getting fifteen percent relative worse on the wel
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Uh - huh.
Right ? In that case you wouldn't necessarily expect it to be better at all.
Oh , yeah , I wasn't necessarily saying it should be better. I 'm just surprised that you 're getting fifteen percent relative worse on the wel
Uh - huh.
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