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Yeah , all is the the session.
This is just twelve minutes.
Tw - twelve hours of work to to segment eh and label eh twelve minutes from a session of part of f
Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
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This is just twelve minutes.
Tw - twelve hours of work to to segment eh and label eh twelve minutes from a session of part of f
Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
Yeah.
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Tw - twelve hours of work to to segment eh and label eh twelve minutes from a session of part of f
Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
Yeah.
that 's in twelve minutes ?
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Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
Yeah.
that 's in twelve minutes ?
No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
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Yeah.
that 's in twelve minutes ?
No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
Oh , OK.
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that 's in twelve minutes ?
No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
Oh , OK.
Oh , I see.
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No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
Oh , OK.
Oh , I see.
in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
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Oh , OK.
Oh , I see.
in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
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Oh , I see.
in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
Yeah.
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in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
Yeah.
Got it.
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OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
Yeah.
Got it.
So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
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Yeah.
Got it.
So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
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Got it.
So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
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So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
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Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
Yeah.
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you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
Yeah.
Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
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But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
Yeah.
Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
Right. Right.
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Yeah.
So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
Right. Right.
Well , not only a word level , but actually
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So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
Right. Right.
Well , not only a word level , but actually
Well
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Right. Right.
Well , not only a word level , but actually
Well
I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
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Well , not only a word level , but actually
Well
I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
No , it 's
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Well
I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
No , it 's
I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
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I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
No , it 's
I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
Right.
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No , it 's
I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
Right.
Mm - hmm.
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I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
Right.
Mm - hmm.
Yep.
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Right.
Mm - hmm.
Yep.
Well
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Mm - hmm.
Yep.
Well
Yeah. Yeah.
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Yep.
Well
Yeah. Yeah.
Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
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Well
Yeah. Yeah.
Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
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Right.
Yeah.
And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
Yeah.
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Yeah.
And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
Yeah.
but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
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And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
Yeah.
but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
Yeah.
Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
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but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
Yeah.
Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
Uh - huh.
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Yeah.
Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
Uh - huh.
Right.
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Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
Uh - huh.
Right.
I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
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Uh - huh.
Right.
I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
but
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Right.
I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
but
but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
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I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
but
but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
No , of course.
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but
but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
No , of course.
Yeah.
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but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
No , of course.
Yeah.
I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
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No , of course.
Yeah.
I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
Always need more for
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Yeah.
I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
Always need more for
Yeah.
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I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
Always need more for
Yeah.
No , no. I I have to go to
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Always need more for
Yeah.
No , no. I I have to go to
because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
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Yeah.
No , no. I I have to go to
because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
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No , no. I I have to go to
because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
I have
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because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
I have
But if it takes sixty to one
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I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
I have
But if it takes sixty to one
Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
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I have
But if it takes sixty to one
Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
Only.
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But if it takes sixty to one
Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
Only.
Yes.
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Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
Only.
Yes.
Yeah.
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Only.
Yes.
Yeah.
Do not mark any other events ,
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Yes.
Yeah.
Do not mark any other events ,
Uh - huh.
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Yeah.
Do not mark any other events ,
Uh - huh.
but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
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Do not mark any other events ,
Uh - huh.
but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
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Uh - huh.
but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
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but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
nnn , I don't understand very.
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OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
nnn , I don't understand very.
It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
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Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
nnn , I don't understand very.
It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
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nnn , I don't understand very.
It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
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It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
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Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
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Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
Oh , yeah. Sure.
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On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
Oh , yeah. Sure.
Yeah OK.
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Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
Oh , yeah. Sure.
Yeah OK.
Yeah sure.
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Oh , yeah. Sure.
Yeah OK.
Yeah sure.
Then I think it 's a good idea.
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Yeah OK.
Yeah sure.
Then I think it 's a good idea.
Sure sure.
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Yeah sure.
Then I think it 's a good idea.
Sure sure.
Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
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Then I think it 's a good idea.
Sure sure.
Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
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Sure sure.
Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
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Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
And
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Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
And
Uh - huh.
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Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
And
Uh - huh.
There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
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And
Uh - huh.
There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
Yeah.
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Uh - huh.
There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
Yeah.
and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
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There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
Yeah.
and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
Yeah.
Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
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and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
Yeah.
Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
Uh - huh. OK. OK.
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Yeah.
Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
Uh - huh. OK. OK.
So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
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Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
Uh - huh. OK. OK.
So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
Yeah.
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Uh - huh. OK. OK.
So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
Yeah.
And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
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So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
Yeah.
And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
Right.
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Yeah.
And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
Right.
Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
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And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
Right.
Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
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Right.
Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
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Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
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Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
right ? I 'm sorry.
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I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
right ? I 'm sorry.
So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
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Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
right ? I 'm sorry.
So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
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right ? I 'm sorry.
So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
Yeah.
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So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
Yeah.
Oh , OK.
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Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
Yeah.
Oh , OK.
Um , and uh , it 's not obvious , I mean , you could you could do the dumbest thing and get get it ninety percent of the time. But when you start going past that and trying to do better , it 's not obvious what combination of features is gonna give you the you know , the right detector. So the idea is to have some ground truth first. And so the i the idea of the manual marking was to say " OK this , i you know , it 's it 's really here ".
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