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Yeah , all is the the session.
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This is just twelve minutes.
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Tw - twelve hours of work to to segment eh and label eh twelve minutes from a session of part of f
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Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
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This is just twelve minutes.
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Tw - twelve hours of work to to segment eh and label eh twelve minutes from a session of part of f
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Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
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Yeah.
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Tw - twelve hours of work to to segment eh and label eh twelve minutes from a session of part of f
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Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
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that 's in twelve minutes ?
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Oh. So let me back up again. So the when you said there were three hundred speaker overlaps ,
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that 's in twelve minutes ?
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No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
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Yeah.
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that 's in twelve minutes ?
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No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
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Oh , OK.
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that 's in twelve minutes ?
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No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
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Oh , OK.
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Oh , I see.
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No no no. I I consider all the all the session because eh I I count the nnn the nnn the overlappings marked by by Jane ,
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Oh , OK.
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Oh , I see.
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in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
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Oh , OK.
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Oh , I see.
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in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
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OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
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Oh , I see.
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in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
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OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
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Yeah.
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in in in in the fin in in the forty - five minutes.
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OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
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Yeah.
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Got it.
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OK. So it 's three hundred in forty - five minutes , but you have you have time uh , uh marked twelve minute the the the um overlaps in twelve minutes of it.
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Yeah.
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Got it.
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So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
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Yeah.
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Got it.
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So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
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Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
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Got it.
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So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
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Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
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you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
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So , can I ask can I ask whether you found uh , you know , how accurate uh Jane 's uh uh labels were as far as
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Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
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you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
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But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
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Well , not just the overlaps , everything.
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you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
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But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
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Yeah.
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you know , did she miss some overlaps ? or did she n ?
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But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
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Yeah.
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Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
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But , by by the moment , I I don't compare , my my temporal mark with eh Jane , but eh I I want to do it. Because eh eh i per perhaps I have eh errors in the in the marks , I and if I I compare with eh Jane , it 's probably I I I can correct and and and to get eh eh a more accurately eh eh transcription in the file.
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Yeah.
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Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well , also Jane Jane was doing word level.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
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Right. Right.
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Yeah.
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So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
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Right. Right.
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Well , not only a word level , but actually
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So we weren't concerned with exactly when an overlap started and stopped.
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Right. Right.
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Well , not only a word level , but actually
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Well
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Right. Right.
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Well , not only a word level , but actually
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Well
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I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
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Well , not only a word level , but actually
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Well
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I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
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No , it 's
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Well
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I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
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No , it 's
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I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
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I 'm expect I 'm not expecting
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No , it 's
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I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
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Right.
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No , it 's
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I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
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Right.
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Mm - hmm.
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I mean , you didn't need to show the exact point of interruption , you just were showing at the level of the phrase or the level of the speech spurt , or
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Right.
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Mm - hmm.
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Yep.
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Right.
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Mm - hmm.
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Yep.
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Well
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Mm - hmm.
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Yep.
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Well
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yep.
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Well
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
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Well
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well , yeah , b yeah , I would say time bin. So my my goal is to get words with reference to a time bin , beginning and end point.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
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Yeah.
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but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
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And and sometimes , you know , it was like you could have an overlap where someone said something in the middle ,
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Yeah.
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but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
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Yeah.
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Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
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but , yeah , w it just wasn't important for our purposes to have it that i disrupt that unit in order to have , you know , a the words in the order in which they were spoken , it would have it would have been hard with the interface that we have.
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Yeah.
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Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
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Uh - huh.
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Yeah.
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Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
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Uh - huh.
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Right.
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Now , my a Adam 's working on a of course , on a revised overlapping interface ,
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Uh - huh.
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Right.
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I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
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Uh - huh.
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Right.
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I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
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but
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Right.
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I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
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but
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but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
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I I I think It 's it 's a good eh work ,
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but
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but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
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No , of course.
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but
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but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
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No , of course.
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Yeah.
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but eh I think we need eh eh more information.
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No , of course.
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Yeah.
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I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
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No , of course.
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Yeah.
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I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
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Always need more for
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Yeah.
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I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
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Always need more for
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Yeah.
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I expect you to find more overlaps than than Jane
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Always need more for
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Yeah.
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No , no. I I have to go to
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Always need more for
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Yeah.
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No , no. I I have to go to
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because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
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Yeah.
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No , no. I I have to go to
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because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
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I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
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No , no. I I have to go to
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because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
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I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
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I have
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because you 're looking at it at a much more detailed level.
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I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
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I have
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But if it takes sixty to one
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I want eh I wanted to eh compare the the transcription.
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I have
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But if it takes sixty to one
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Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
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I have
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But if it takes sixty to one
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Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
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Only.
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But if it takes sixty to one
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Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
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Only.
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Yes.
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Well , I but I have a suggestion about that. Um , obviously this is very , very time - consuming , and you 're finding lots of things which I 'm sure are gonna be very interesting , but in the interests of making progress , uh might I s how how would it affect your time if you only marked speaker overlaps ?
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Only.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Only.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Do not mark any other events ,
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Do not mark any other events ,
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Uh - huh.
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Yeah.
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Do not mark any other events ,
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Uh - huh.
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but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
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Do not mark any other events ,
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Uh - huh.
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but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
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OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
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Uh - huh.
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but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
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OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
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Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
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but only mark speaker Do you think that would speed it up quite a bit ?
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OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
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Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
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nnn , I don't understand very.
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OK. OK. I I I I w I I wanted to
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Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
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nnn , I don't understand very.
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It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
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Do y do you think that would speed it up ? Uh , speed up your your your marking ?
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nnn , I don't understand very.
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It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
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Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
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nnn , I don't understand very.
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It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
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Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
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Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
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It took you a long time to mark twelve minutes.
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Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
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Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
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On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
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Yeah. Oh , yeah , yeah.
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Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
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On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
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Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
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Now , my suggestion was for the other thirty - three
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On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
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Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
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Oh , yeah. Sure.
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On - only to mark only to mark overlapping zone , but
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Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
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Oh , yeah. Sure.
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Yeah OK.
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Yeah , and my question is , if you did that , if you followed my suggestion , would it take much less time ?
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Oh , yeah. Sure.
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Yeah OK.
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Yeah sure.
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Oh , yeah. Sure.
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Yeah OK.
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Yeah sure.
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Then I think it 's a good idea.
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Yeah OK.
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Yeah sure.
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Then I think it 's a good idea.
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Sure sure.
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Yeah sure.
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Then I think it 's a good idea.
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Sure sure.
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Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
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Then I think it 's a good idea.
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Sure sure.
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Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
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Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
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Sure sure.
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Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
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Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
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Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
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Then I think it 's a good idea , because it
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Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
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Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
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And
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Sure , because I I need a lot of time to to put the label or to do that. Yeah.
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Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
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And
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Uh - huh.
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Yeah , I mean , we we know that there 's noise.
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And
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Uh - huh.
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There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
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And
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Uh - huh.
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There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
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Yeah.
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Uh - huh.
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There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
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Yeah.
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and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
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There 's there 's uh continual noise uh from fans and so forth , and there is uh more impulsive noise from uh taps and so forth
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Yeah.
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and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
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Yeah.
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Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
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and and something in between with paper rustling. We know that all that 's there and it 's a g worthwhile thing to study , but obviously it takes a lot of time to mark all of these things.
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Yeah.
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Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
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Uh - huh. OK. OK.
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Yeah.
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Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
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Uh - huh. OK. OK.
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So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
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Whereas th i I would think that uh you we can study more or less as a distinct phenomenon the overlapping of people talking.
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Uh - huh. OK. OK.
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So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
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Yeah.
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Uh - huh. OK. OK.
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So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
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Yeah.
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And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
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So. Then you can get the Cuz you need If it 's three hundred uh i i it sounds like you probably only have fifty or sixty or seventy events right now that are really
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Yeah.
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And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
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Right.
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Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
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And and you need to have a lot more than that to have any kind of uh even visual sense of of what 's going on , much less any kind of reasonable statistics.
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Right.
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Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
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Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
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Right.
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Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
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Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
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I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
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Now , why do you need to mark speaker overlap by hand if you can infer it from the relative energy in the
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Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
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I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
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Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
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Well , that 's That 's what I was gonna bring up.
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I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
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Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
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right ? I 'm sorry.
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I mean , you shouldn't need to do this p completely by hand ,
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Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
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right ? I 'm sorry.
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So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
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Um , OK , yeah. So let 's back up because you weren't here for an earlier conversation.
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right ? I 'm sorry.
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So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
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Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
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right ? I 'm sorry.
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So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
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Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
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Yeah.
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So the idea was that what he was going to be doing was experimenting with different measures such as the increase in energy , such as the energy in the LPC residuals , such as I mean there 's a bunch of things I mean , increased energy is - is sort of an obvious one.
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Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
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Yeah.
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Oh , OK.
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Mm - hmm. In the far - field mike.
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Yeah.
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Oh , OK.
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Um , and uh , it 's not obvious , I mean , you could you could do the dumbest thing and get get it ninety percent of the time. But when you start going past that and trying to do better , it 's not obvious what combination of features is gonna give you the you know , the right detector. So the idea is to have some ground truth first. And so the i the idea of the manual marking was to say " OK this , i you know , it 's it 's really here ".
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