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I guess it would be the same.
Uh - huh. But there are others that have backchannelling , it 's just he was less interested in those.
Can I Sorry to interrupt. Um , I f f f I 've @ @ d A minute uh , several minutes ago , I , like , briefly was was not listening and So who is " he " in this context ?
Yeah , there 's a lot of pronoun
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Uh - huh. But there are others that have backchannelling , it 's just he was less interested in those.
Can I Sorry to interrupt. Um , I f f f I 've @ @ d A minute uh , several minutes ago , I , like , briefly was was not listening and So who is " he " in this context ?
Yeah , there 's a lot of pronoun
OK. So I was just realizing we 've You guys have been talking about " he " um for at least uh , I don't know , three three four minutes without ever mentioning the person 's name again.
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Can I Sorry to interrupt. Um , I f f f I 've @ @ d A minute uh , several minutes ago , I , like , briefly was was not listening and So who is " he " in this context ?
Yeah , there 's a lot of pronoun
OK. So I was just realizing we 've You guys have been talking about " he " um for at least uh , I don't know , three three four minutes without ever mentioning the person 's name again.
I believe it. Yeah. Actually to make it worse , uh , Morgan uses " you " and " you "
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Yeah , there 's a lot of pronoun
OK. So I was just realizing we 've You guys have been talking about " he " um for at least uh , I don't know , three three four minutes without ever mentioning the person 's name again.
I believe it. Yeah. Actually to make it worse , uh , Morgan uses " you " and " you "
So this is this is this is gonna be a big , big problem if you want to later do uh , you know , indexing , or speech understanding of any sort.
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OK. So I was just realizing we 've You guys have been talking about " he " um for at least uh , I don't know , three three four minutes without ever mentioning the person 's name again.
I believe it. Yeah. Actually to make it worse , uh , Morgan uses " you " and " you "
So this is this is this is gonna be a big , big problem if you want to later do uh , you know , indexing , or speech understanding of any sort.
It 's in my notes.
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I believe it. Yeah. Actually to make it worse , uh , Morgan uses " you " and " you "
So this is this is this is gonna be a big , big problem if you want to later do uh , you know , indexing , or speech understanding of any sort.
It 's in my notes.
with gaze and no identification , or I just wrote this down. Yeah , actually. Cuz Morgan will say well , " you had some ideas "
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So this is this is this is gonna be a big , big problem if you want to later do uh , you know , indexing , or speech understanding of any sort.
It 's in my notes.
with gaze and no identification , or I just wrote this down. Yeah , actually. Cuz Morgan will say well , " you had some ideas "
Yeah.
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It 's in my notes.
with gaze and no identification , or I just wrote this down. Yeah , actually. Cuz Morgan will say well , " you had some ideas "
Yeah.
You just wrote this ?
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with gaze and no identification , or I just wrote this down. Yeah , actually. Cuz Morgan will say well , " you had some ideas "
Yeah.
You just wrote this ?
and he never said Li - He looked
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Yeah.
You just wrote this ?
and he never said Li - He looked
Well , I think he 's doing that intentionally ,
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You just wrote this ?
and he never said Li - He looked
Well , I think he 's doing that intentionally ,
Right , so it 's great.
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and he never said Li - He looked
Well , I think he 's doing that intentionally ,
Right , so it 's great.
aren't you ?
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Well , I think he 's doing that intentionally ,
Right , so it 's great.
aren't you ?
So this is really great
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Right , so it 's great.
aren't you ?
So this is really great
Right.
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aren't you ?
So this is really great
Right.
because the thing is , because he 's looking at the per even for addressees in the conversation ,
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So this is really great
Right.
because the thing is , because he 's looking at the per even for addressees in the conversation ,
Yeah.
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Right.
because the thing is , because he 's looking at the per even for addressees in the conversation ,
Yeah.
Mm - hmm.
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because the thing is , because he 's looking at the per even for addressees in the conversation ,
Yeah.
Mm - hmm.
I bet you could pick that up in the acoustics. Just because your gaze is also correlated with the directionality of your voice.
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Yeah.
Mm - hmm.
I bet you could pick that up in the acoustics. Just because your gaze is also correlated with the directionality of your voice.
Uh - huh. Could be.
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Mm - hmm.
I bet you could pick that up in the acoustics. Just because your gaze is also correlated with the directionality of your voice.
Uh - huh. Could be.
Can we
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I bet you could pick that up in the acoustics. Just because your gaze is also correlated with the directionality of your voice.
Uh - huh. Could be.
Can we
Yeah. That would be tou
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Uh - huh. Could be.
Can we
Yeah. That would be tou
Oh , that would be interesting.
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Can we
Yeah. That would be tou
Oh , that would be interesting.
Yeah , so that , I mean , to even know um when
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Yeah. That would be tou
Oh , that would be interesting.
Yeah , so that , I mean , to even know um when
Yeah.
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Oh , that would be interesting.
Yeah , so that , I mean , to even know um when
Yeah.
Yeah , if you have the P Z Ms you should be able to pick up what a person is looking at from their voice.
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Yeah , so that , I mean , to even know um when
Yeah.
Yeah , if you have the P Z Ms you should be able to pick up what a person is looking at from their voice.
Well , especially with Morgan , with the way we have the microphones arranged. I 'm sort of right on axis and it would be very hard to tell.
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Yeah.
Yeah , if you have the P Z Ms you should be able to pick up what a person is looking at from their voice.
Well , especially with Morgan , with the way we have the microphones arranged. I 'm sort of right on axis and it would be very hard to tell.
Right.
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Yeah , if you have the P Z Ms you should be able to pick up what a person is looking at from their voice.
Well , especially with Morgan , with the way we have the microphones arranged. I 'm sort of right on axis and it would be very hard to tell.
Right.
Uh.
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Well , especially with Morgan , with the way we have the microphones arranged. I 'm sort of right on axis and it would be very hard to tell.
Right.
Uh.
Oh , but you 'd have the
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Right.
Uh.
Oh , but you 'd have the
Put Morgan always like this
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Uh.
Oh , but you 'd have the
Put Morgan always like this
You 'd have fainter
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Oh , but you 'd have the
Put Morgan always like this
You 'd have fainter
and
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Put Morgan always like this
You 'd have fainter
and
Wouldn't you get fainter reception out here ?
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You 'd have fainter
and
Wouldn't you get fainter reception out here ?
Well , these
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and
Wouldn't you get fainter reception out here ?
Well , these
Sure , but I think if I 'm talking like this ? Right now I 'm looking at Jane and talking , now I 'm looking at Chuck and talking , I don't think the microphones would pick up that difference.
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Wouldn't you get fainter reception out here ?
Well , these
Sure , but I think if I 'm talking like this ? Right now I 'm looking at Jane and talking , now I 'm looking at Chuck and talking , I don't think the microphones would pick up that difference.
But you don't have this this problem.
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Well , these
Sure , but I think if I 'm talking like this ? Right now I 'm looking at Jane and talking , now I 'm looking at Chuck and talking , I don't think the microphones would pick up that difference.
But you don't have this this problem.
I see.
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Sure , but I think if I 'm talking like this ? Right now I 'm looking at Jane and talking , now I 'm looking at Chuck and talking , I don't think the microphones would pick up that difference.
But you don't have this this problem.
I see.
Morgan is the one who does this most.
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But you don't have this this problem.
I see.
Morgan is the one who does this most.
So if I 'm talking at you , or I 'm talking at you.
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I see.
Morgan is the one who does this most.
So if I 'm talking at you , or I 'm talking at you.
I probably been affect No , I th I think I 've been affected by too many conversations where we were talking about lawyers and talking about and concerns about " oh gee is somebody going to say something bad ? " and so on.
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Morgan is the one who does this most.
So if I 'm talking at you , or I 'm talking at you.
I probably been affect No , I th I think I 've been affected by too many conversations where we were talking about lawyers and talking about and concerns about " oh gee is somebody going to say something bad ? " and so on.
Lawyers.
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So if I 'm talking at you , or I 'm talking at you.
I probably been affect No , I th I think I 've been affected by too many conversations where we were talking about lawyers and talking about and concerns about " oh gee is somebody going to say something bad ? " and so on.
Lawyers.
And so I so I 'm I 'm tending to stay away from people 's names even though uh
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I probably been affect No , I th I think I 've been affected by too many conversations where we were talking about lawyers and talking about and concerns about " oh gee is somebody going to say something bad ? " and so on.
Lawyers.
And so I so I 'm I 'm tending to stay away from people 's names even though uh
I am too.
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Lawyers.
And so I so I 'm I 'm tending to stay away from people 's names even though uh
I am too.
Even though you could pick up later on , just from the acoustics who you were t who you were looking at.
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And so I so I 'm I 'm tending to stay away from people 's names even though uh
I am too.
Even though you could pick up later on , just from the acoustics who you were t who you were looking at.
I am too.
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I am too.
Even though you could pick up later on , just from the acoustics who you were t who you were looking at.
I am too.
And we did mention who " he " was.
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Even though you could pick up later on , just from the acoustics who you were t who you were looking at.
I am too.
And we did mention who " he " was.
Yeah.
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I am too.
And we did mention who " he " was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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And we did mention who " he " was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right , but I missed it.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Right , but I missed it.
Early in the conversation.
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Yeah.
Right , but I missed it.
Early in the conversation.
But it was uh
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Right , but I missed it.
Early in the conversation.
But it was uh
Yeah , yeah.
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Early in the conversation.
But it was uh
Yeah , yeah.
Yeah.
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But it was uh
Yeah , yeah.
Yeah.
Do Sh - Can I say
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Yeah , yeah.
Yeah.
Do Sh - Can I say
Yeah. No no , there 's
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Yeah.
Do Sh - Can I say
Yeah. No no , there 's
Yeah.
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Do Sh - Can I say
Yeah. No no , there 's
Yeah.
or or is that just too sensitive ?
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Yeah. No no , there 's
Yeah.
or or is that just too sensitive ?
No no , it isn't sensitive at all.
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Yeah.
or or is that just too sensitive ?
No no , it isn't sensitive at all.
Well
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or or is that just too sensitive ?
No no , it isn't sensitive at all.
Well
I was just I was just I was overreacting just because we 've been talking about it.
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No no , it isn't sensitive at all.
Well
I was just I was just I was overreacting just because we 've been talking about it.
And in fact , it is it is it is sensitive.
false
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Well
I was just I was just I was overreacting just because we 've been talking about it.
And in fact , it is it is it is sensitive.
No , but that it 's interesting.
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I was just I was just I was overreacting just because we 've been talking about it.
And in fact , it is it is it is sensitive.
No , but that it 's interesting.
It 's OK to
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And in fact , it is it is it is sensitive.
No , but that it 's interesting.
It 's OK to
I I came up with something from the Human Subjects people that I wanted to mention. I mean , it fits into the m area of the mundane , but they did say You know , I asked her very specifically about this clause of how , um , you know , it says " no individuals will be identified uh , " in any publication using the data. " OK , well , individuals being identified , let 's say you have a a snippet that says , " Joe s uh thinks such - and - such about about this field , but I think he 's wrongheaded. " Now I mean , we 're we 're gonna be careful not to have the " wrongheaded " part in there , but but you know , let 's say we say , you know , " Joe used to think so - and - so about this area , in his publication he says that but I think he 's changed his mind. " or whatever. Then the issue of of being able to trace Joe , because we know he 's well - known in this field , and all this and and tie it to the speaker , whose name was just mentioned a moment ago , can be sensitive.
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No , but that it 's interesting.
It 's OK to
I I came up with something from the Human Subjects people that I wanted to mention. I mean , it fits into the m area of the mundane , but they did say You know , I asked her very specifically about this clause of how , um , you know , it says " no individuals will be identified uh , " in any publication using the data. " OK , well , individuals being identified , let 's say you have a a snippet that says , " Joe s uh thinks such - and - such about about this field , but I think he 's wrongheaded. " Now I mean , we 're we 're gonna be careful not to have the " wrongheaded " part in there , but but you know , let 's say we say , you know , " Joe used to think so - and - so about this area , in his publication he says that but I think he 's changed his mind. " or whatever. Then the issue of of being able to trace Joe , because we know he 's well - known in this field , and all this and and tie it to the speaker , whose name was just mentioned a moment ago , can be sensitive.
b But I
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It 's OK to
I I came up with something from the Human Subjects people that I wanted to mention. I mean , it fits into the m area of the mundane , but they did say You know , I asked her very specifically about this clause of how , um , you know , it says " no individuals will be identified uh , " in any publication using the data. " OK , well , individuals being identified , let 's say you have a a snippet that says , " Joe s uh thinks such - and - such about about this field , but I think he 's wrongheaded. " Now I mean , we 're we 're gonna be careful not to have the " wrongheaded " part in there , but but you know , let 's say we say , you know , " Joe used to think so - and - so about this area , in his publication he says that but I think he 's changed his mind. " or whatever. Then the issue of of being able to trace Joe , because we know he 's well - known in this field , and all this and and tie it to the speaker , whose name was just mentioned a moment ago , can be sensitive.
b But I
So I think it 's really really kind of adaptive and wise to not mention names any more than we have to because if there 's a slanderous aspect to it , then how much to we wanna be able to have to remove ?
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I I came up with something from the Human Subjects people that I wanted to mention. I mean , it fits into the m area of the mundane , but they did say You know , I asked her very specifically about this clause of how , um , you know , it says " no individuals will be identified uh , " in any publication using the data. " OK , well , individuals being identified , let 's say you have a a snippet that says , " Joe s uh thinks such - and - such about about this field , but I think he 's wrongheaded. " Now I mean , we 're we 're gonna be careful not to have the " wrongheaded " part in there , but but you know , let 's say we say , you know , " Joe used to think so - and - so about this area , in his publication he says that but I think he 's changed his mind. " or whatever. Then the issue of of being able to trace Joe , because we know he 's well - known in this field , and all this and and tie it to the speaker , whose name was just mentioned a moment ago , can be sensitive.
b But I
So I think it 's really really kind of adaptive and wise to not mention names any more than we have to because if there 's a slanderous aspect to it , then how much to we wanna be able to have to remove ?
Yeah , well , there 's that. But I I mean I think also to some extent it 's just educating the Human Subjects people , in a way , because there 's If uh You know , there 's court transcripts , there 's there 's transcripts of radio shows I mean people say people 's names all the time. So I think it it can't be bad to say people 's names. It 's just that i I mean you 're right that there 's more poten If we never say anybody 's name , then there 's no chance of of of slandering anybody ,
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b But I
So I think it 's really really kind of adaptive and wise to not mention names any more than we have to because if there 's a slanderous aspect to it , then how much to we wanna be able to have to remove ?
Yeah , well , there 's that. But I I mean I think also to some extent it 's just educating the Human Subjects people , in a way , because there 's If uh You know , there 's court transcripts , there 's there 's transcripts of radio shows I mean people say people 's names all the time. So I think it it can't be bad to say people 's names. It 's just that i I mean you 're right that there 's more poten If we never say anybody 's name , then there 's no chance of of of slandering anybody ,
But , then it won't I mean , if we if we
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So I think it 's really really kind of adaptive and wise to not mention names any more than we have to because if there 's a slanderous aspect to it , then how much to we wanna be able to have to remove ?
Yeah , well , there 's that. But I I mean I think also to some extent it 's just educating the Human Subjects people , in a way , because there 's If uh You know , there 's court transcripts , there 's there 's transcripts of radio shows I mean people say people 's names all the time. So I think it it can't be bad to say people 's names. It 's just that i I mean you 're right that there 's more poten If we never say anybody 's name , then there 's no chance of of of slandering anybody ,
But , then it won't I mean , if we if we
but
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Yeah , well , there 's that. But I I mean I think also to some extent it 's just educating the Human Subjects people , in a way , because there 's If uh You know , there 's court transcripts , there 's there 's transcripts of radio shows I mean people say people 's names all the time. So I think it it can't be bad to say people 's names. It 's just that i I mean you 're right that there 's more poten If we never say anybody 's name , then there 's no chance of of of slandering anybody ,
But , then it won't I mean , if we if we
but
It 's not a meeting.
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But , then it won't I mean , if we if we
but
It 's not a meeting.
Yeah. I mean we should do whatever 's natural in a meeting if if we weren't being recorded.
false
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but
It 's not a meeting.
Yeah. I mean we should do whatever 's natural in a meeting if if we weren't being recorded.
Yeah. Right , so I So my behavior is probably not natural.
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It 's not a meeting.
Yeah. I mean we should do whatever 's natural in a meeting if if we weren't being recorded.
Yeah. Right , so I So my behavior is probably not natural.
" If Person X "
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Yeah. I mean we should do whatever 's natural in a meeting if if we weren't being recorded.
Yeah. Right , so I So my behavior is probably not natural.
" If Person X "
So.
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Yeah. Right , so I So my behavior is probably not natural.
" If Person X "
So.
Well , my feeling on it was that it wasn't really important who said it , you know.
false
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" If Person X "
So.
Well , my feeling on it was that it wasn't really important who said it , you know.
Yeah.
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So.
Well , my feeling on it was that it wasn't really important who said it , you know.
Yeah.
Well , if you ha since you have to um go over the transcripts later anyway , you could make it one of the jobs of the people who do that to mark
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Well , my feeling on it was that it wasn't really important who said it , you know.
Yeah.
Well , if you ha since you have to um go over the transcripts later anyway , you could make it one of the jobs of the people who do that to mark
Well , we t we t we talked about this during the anon anonymization.
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Yeah.
Well , if you ha since you have to um go over the transcripts later anyway , you could make it one of the jobs of the people who do that to mark
Well , we t we t we talked about this during the anon anonymization.
Right.
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Well , if you ha since you have to um go over the transcripts later anyway , you could make it one of the jobs of the people who do that to mark
Well , we t we t we talked about this during the anon anonymization.
Right.
If we wanna go through and extract from the audio and the written every time someone says a name. And I thought that our conclusion was that we didn't want to do that.
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Well , we t we t we talked about this during the anon anonymization.
Right.
If we wanna go through and extract from the audio and the written every time someone says a name. And I thought that our conclusion was that we didn't want to do that.
Yeah , we really can't. But a actually , I 'm sorry. I really would like to push finish this off.
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Right.
If we wanna go through and extract from the audio and the written every time someone says a name. And I thought that our conclusion was that we didn't want to do that.
Yeah , we really can't. But a actually , I 'm sorry. I really would like to push finish this off.
I understand. No I just I just was suggesting that it 's not a bad policy p potentially.
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If we wanna go through and extract from the audio and the written every time someone says a name. And I thought that our conclusion was that we didn't want to do that.
Yeah , we really can't. But a actually , I 'm sorry. I really would like to push finish this off.
I understand. No I just I just was suggesting that it 's not a bad policy p potentially.
So it 's
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Yeah , we really can't. But a actually , I 'm sorry. I really would like to push finish this off.
I understand. No I just I just was suggesting that it 's not a bad policy p potentially.
So it 's
So , we need to talk about this later.
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I understand. No I just I just was suggesting that it 's not a bad policy p potentially.
So it 's
So , we need to talk about this later.
Yeah , I di I didn't intend it an a policy though.
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So it 's
So , we need to talk about this later.
Yeah , I di I didn't intend it an a policy though.
Uh - huh.
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So , we need to talk about this later.
Yeah , I di I didn't intend it an a policy though.
Uh - huh.
It was it was just it was just unconscious well , semi - conscious behavior. I sorta knew I was doing it but it was
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Yeah , I di I didn't intend it an a policy though.
Uh - huh.
It was it was just it was just unconscious well , semi - conscious behavior. I sorta knew I was doing it but it was
Well , I still don't know who " he " is.
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Uh - huh.
It was it was just it was just unconscious well , semi - conscious behavior. I sorta knew I was doing it but it was
Well , I still don't know who " he " is.
I I do I don't remember who " he " is.
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It was it was just it was just unconscious well , semi - conscious behavior. I sorta knew I was doing it but it was
Well , I still don't know who " he " is.
I I do I don't remember who " he " is.
No , you have to say , you still don't know who " he " is , with that prosody.
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Well , I still don't know who " he " is.
I I do I don't remember who " he " is.
No , you have to say , you still don't know who " he " is , with that prosody.
Ah. Uh , we were talking about Dan at one point and we were talking about Lokendra at another point.
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I I do I don't remember who " he " is.
No , you have to say , you still don't know who " he " is , with that prosody.
Ah. Uh , we were talking about Dan at one point and we were talking about Lokendra at another point.
Yeah , depends on which one you mean.
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No , you have to say , you still don't know who " he " is , with that prosody.
Ah. Uh , we were talking about Dan at one point and we were talking about Lokendra at another point.
Yeah , depends on which one you mean.
And I don't I don't remember which which part.
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Ah. Uh , we were talking about Dan at one point and we were talking about Lokendra at another point.
Yeah , depends on which one you mean.
And I don't I don't remember which which part.
Oh.
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Yeah , depends on which one you mean.
And I don't I don't remember which which part.
Oh.
It 's ambiguous , so it 's OK.
false
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And I don't I don't remember which which part.
Oh.
It 's ambiguous , so it 's OK.
Uh , I think
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Oh.
It 's ambiguous , so it 's OK.
Uh , I think
Well , the inference structures was Lokendra.
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It 's ambiguous , so it 's OK.
Uh , I think
Well , the inference structures was Lokendra.
But no. The inference stuff was was was Lokendra.
false
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Uh , I think
Well , the inference structures was Lokendra.
But no. The inference stuff was was was Lokendra.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
false
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Well , the inference structures was Lokendra.
But no. The inference stuff was was was Lokendra.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
OK. That makes sense , yeah.
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