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re matt militzok please read in article gp m bgsu edu gp andy bgsu edu george pavlic wrote sorry to everyone for wasting space matt the other day you posted that you were doing a mailing list of playoff stats i lost your address please put me on that list thanks george sorry again i guess you need my address gp mailserver bgsu edu
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re list of tee times at metropolitan toronto golf courses for monday lee gaul csd uwo ca steve lee writes in article c spec euc noose ecn purdue edu stamber rainbow ecn purdue edu kevin l stamber writes woops this is rec sport hockey not rec sport golf hope you check the newsgroup header next time before posting steve lee university of western ontario london canada lee obelix gaul csd uwo ca actually steve i think he was refering to the leafs and when they can be expected to hit the greens acadia axemen ciau champions donald smith dragon acadiau ca
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re bay area media wings leafs coverage yeah the news is true the leafs lost to the wings wish i could say i d seen the whole game but my husband wanted to watch young guns ii on another channel sometime between the first time i tuned in and d saw the leafs tie and the next time i tuned in and heard the score was something happened please no woofing from red wings fans they re my third favourite team and if they make it past the leafs i ll wish them luck as for potvin well it was his fist playoff game susan carroll clark who likes anyone doug gilmour plays for
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re sharks kingston fired in article apr adobe com snichols adobe com sherri nichols writes in article apr leland stanford edu terry garfield stanford edu terry wong writes i think that jack ferreira s firing eventually led to kingston s firing you mention consistency of vision i think the sharks lost that with the loss of ferreira there has never been a headed g m that has ever worked you need one person making the personnel decisions at the top not management by committee the conventional wisdom from around the league is that ferreira would have made the moves that would have fielded a better product on the ice how exactly would ferreira accomplished this the three headed gm ship has taken a lot of heat but nobody s explained how things would have been any different had ferreira still been there would ferreira have made more trades who would have he had traded would he have made fewer trades who should not have been traded i think the three headed gm s guiding principle was to keep veterans in favor of youngsters only if they offered a significant advantage at the end of last season the contracts of several veterans with somewhat maginal contributions fenton bozek anderson and a couple others i can t remember were bought out the idea was that youngsters could play almost as well and had the potential to improve where these older guys did not and they traded mullen because he wanted to go not because he wasn t good enough but i think they were a bit too optimistic in thinking they could make up for his contributions an example from this season skriko was brought in on a trial basis but not kept because of his age i thought he was a decent contributor worth keeping around the youth movement has its advantages look at gaudreau who might still be in kc if more veterans had been kept around but you have to find the right balance steve cole steve sep stanford edu apple sep steve department of geophysics stanford university stanford ca
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re tie breaker isles and devils dir in article apr ramsey cs laurentian ca maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard writes in lrw f rpi edu wangr vccsouth its rpi edu rex wang writes i might not be great in math but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points with different record man retard can t believe people actually put win as first in a tie breaker well i don t see any smileys here i am trying to figure out if the poster is a dog or a wordprocessor couldn t be neither both are smarter than this i might not be great in math cordially as always maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca so many morons rm and so little time roger lecture someone on not using smileys what sweet hipocracy koz lets go caps
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usenet playoff hockey pool game standings here are the standings after game of each of the divisional semi finals hey look who s i ll try to post the standings after each game i e every two days i managed to recover the email lost up to saturday night so all i m missing is mail that arrived between early saturday morning and sunday afternoon many people re sent their teams so you may have received two replies back from me if your team name is not on this list please resend your team to me and i ll see what i can do any kind of proof you sent it on the weekend will help your case seriously this is only a fun pool and i trust each person to be honest again sorry for any inconvenience and i hope the pool is still fun for you andrew usenet hockey playoff draft standings posn team pts rem last posn sneddon scorers the borg dave wessels bruce s rented mules great expectations hurricane andrew jerky boys homesick hawaiian give you money monday einstien s punk band zipper heads tapio repo detroit homeboy the dead ducks mike burger test department team elvis craig team skate or die debbie bowles fuzzfaces galore suds the campi machine zachmans wingers sean forbes threepeat flamming senators team awesome a p bury purdue ricks pens gb flyers seppo kemppainen paige faults weenies chris roney rednecks from hockey hell dog s hog s mind sweepers teem kanada northern lights fugazi delaware destroyers mopar muscle men lance hill the boston bruins fa garryola oakville brothers sam his dogs cluster buster jan stein frank s little wankers milton keynes kings the promise land rangers of destiny new zealand leafs loaded weapons bloom county all stars robarts research rebels tiger chung lees goddess of fermentation make beliefs rob del mundo heikki salmi the underwriters muller n walker controversy warriors bjorkloven norway killerwhales holsteins sfb buffalo soldiers lemon pepper grizzly bears frack attack houdini s magicians the rangers of rangers blow dave hiebert yan loke canadian gladiators littlest giants alf s all stars the ice kickers beer makes me an expert force mr creosote the goobmeister the mulberry maulers rev s rebels bosse zippety doodah kramer george and jerry dehradun maawalis sludge j s rock em sock ems brians bloodletters grant marven arctic circles all the kane s men trevor s triumph mark and steve dreaming again goaldingers bjoern leaguen habs playing golf shigella new jersey rob steves superstars big bay bombers doug bowles neural netters lippe lets go pandas les raisins daves knee jerk picks monica loke jason team reneb schott shooters gilles carmel lewey s lakers smithw east city jokers daryl turner doug mraz skriko wolves icemachine lamp lighters on thin ice joe s a crak head samuel lau calgary alberta comfortably numb reksa fans of oulu gail hiebert gee man but wait theres more marcs maulers danielle leblanc bobby schmautz fan club ottawa bearcats boops bets triple x timo ojala flying pigs the eradicators van isle colonists commitments bure s blur great scott weasels tequila shooters whiters frasses faceplants high stickers mak paranjape lord stanley s favourites san jose mahi mahi oz e i s mann mariners jfz dream team stacey ross louisiana psycho killers la coupe stainless fighting amish evan pritchard stanias stars pens dynasty oceanweavers go go gagit myllypuro hedgehogs arm hammer legzryx chapman chaps dean martin cherry bombers sluggo s hosers anson mak knights on a power play canuck force butt ends beam team jukurit chapman sticks ken de cruyenaere gax goons tampere salami sparky s select hillside raiders eldoret elephants jane s world the alarmers rolaids required chip n dale brian bergman killer kings montys nords arsenal maple leafs martin s gag equipe du jour lisa s luggers andrew scott andrew idacom hp com hp idacom telecom operation ext during the roman era was considered old
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re canada sweden at the world champioships in article apr venus cc hollandc pe ca white venus cc hollandc pe ca take me baby writes today at the world championships in munich canada scored an impressive victory over the defending world champs sweden i believe that was rod brind amour scored at of the third kevin white white venus cc hollandc pe ca p allen larsen university of victoria plarsen sanjuan uvic ca
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minnesota scene to those who are wondering what is happening in minnesota from what i have seen in the local news tv and newspaper various people in the area are trying to get a new hockey team a columnist for the st paul pioneer press wrote an article giving the inside scoop on the issue there are three local sites competing for a team and three possible candiates to move to the twin cities first the sites target center civic center st paul and yes even the met center the columnist was pretty confident that minnesota will get a team and that the target center will ultimately win out he argued however that the competition from the other two sites will delay the process considerably without the inter site competition the columnist sorry i can t remember his name believes that minnesota would have a team by the season also because of the situation with the timberwolves things will be delayed until unless the city of minneapolis takes over the target center however they are unlikely to do so until the met center is destroyed because the city will lose money if there is competition from the met for conventions and short term events even with hockey at target to add to this mess a study to months is going to be conducted on the future viability of the met center which obviously delays the process even further i hope that the study is cancelled which will have the effect of knocking the met center out of the running and perhaps encouraging minneapolis to take over the target center sooner the city would be be even more encourged if the wrecking ball is taken to the met which may happen regarding possible candidates the three teams are hartford tampa bay and new jersey i would prefer the devils minnesota ice demons although the lightning may have potential although it hasn t been announced yet it looks like neutral site games will be played at the target center next year apparently the devils are interested in playing in as many of those six games as possible and i wouldn t be surprised to see hartford and tampa show up there either so minnesota may end up getting another team but it may take a few years go sabres robert andolina former buffalonian living in minneapolis randolin polisci umn edu
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re aargh great hockey coverage devils robbie po rap psuvm psu edu writes gld cunixb cc columbia edu gary l dare says i mean that the original poster was looking for a devils victory on the tape delay and it didn t happen in game i was the original poster and it was just a complaint about the coverage meaningless yankee game before playoff devils game oh i apologize then i misinterpreted you no problem no offence taken of all the teams in the patrick i least dislike the devils it is sad just as a lover of the sport that this team can be in the metro new york area for over a decade and still exist as just a non entity how is espn s coverage anyways i think it starts tonight we re getting the sabres bruins as the replacement game and probably so are you while the devils penguins game is played on scny and the islanders caps are the overflow game on the sca scny plus if the sabres bruins ends early then we ll go to the devils penguins game assuming that espn follows their previous patterns we got the last minute of the islanders rangers and all of the overtime two weeks ago espn s coverage started last night by accident but as one or more other writers have pointed out they could ve gone to wild hog wrestling for the evening instead gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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re schedule mre teal eng sun com mike eisler writes gld cunixb cc columbia edu gary l dare writes i can t believe that espn is making sportschannel america look good but only in ny nj philadelphia and chicago everywhere else the only reason sportschannel was available was for local baseball broadcasts yes a point well taken however even in areas that finally got some games there s something nagging in the back of your skull when the network that has the national rights in its pocket says on its sports news there s an awesome overtime going on in quebec city and we ll try to get you an update through the show when you know that it s on a satellite s feedhorn somewhere up there if people want hockey on tv they should watch hockey on tv i bet the ratings for hockey on sunday on abc went into the toilet from today s times abc got great ratings in chicago and st louis a and the kings flames got a on the west coast but only a in metro new york i e the devils squandered their newfound support from a year ago when they played the rangers in comparison seniors golf did better next week there will be far fewer abc affiliates with hockey i fear that the overall national numbers will not be so great i can t tell if abc did any advance marketing or not cos i don t watch much tv the nhl should have made sure that it was solid on cable before going on the air even espn could ve sold second rights to third party systems i e non sportschannel since they are not making any extra money by sitting on the games hockey fans will not necessarily be watching pre season beach volleyball if playoffs games aren t being shown somewhere gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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s i am in need of all of the players wearing in the nhl i know now only of one ray borque for the bruins any help would be greatly appreciated thanx the logistician reigns supreme go blue go tigers go pistons go lions go red wings ching wpi wpi edu
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re thumbs up to espn i agree it was great for the espn people to show the detroit game my roommate just about sh t when they threw the octopus on the ice thanks for explaining the significance of that btw the only problem i had was when they blotted out the local commentators with the baseball ads and music especially when the wings player hit the rut and went into the boards injuring his shoulder and they blotted out the injury report other then that hats off to espn now if they ll only make a habit of this yeah right baseball seasons started zzzzzz koz lets go caps
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re atlanta hockey hell dir someone give sportchannel a call or maybe ted turner wasn t usa network covering the playoffs years ago jim g oh to be back in the good old days when i lived in florida florida for petes sake and could watch hockey every night as espn and usa alternated coverage nights oh well i guess it would be too simple for the home office to look back into their past to solve a problem in the present of course i shouldn t complain at least i m getting to watch the playoffs for a change hooray now if the espn schedulers will realise there are other teams except pittsberg in the patrick sounds like a dr suess book koz lets go caps
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re if you were pat burns in article c suh q tsegw tse com mhembruc tsegw tse com mattias hembruch writes hell is anderson anderson can in days past get under peoples skin put a little more bluntly anderson has to be an asshole he used to be good at it we need him now agreed anderson was nowhere last night well what do you expect burns was playing him with krushelnyski and baumgartner anderson is a finisher unless you play him with someone to can get him the puck in a finishing position he ain t going to do much scoring gerald
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hockey coverage this is a general question for us readers how extensive is the playoff coverage down there in canada it is almost impossible not to watch a series on tv ie the only two series i have not had an opportunity to watch this year are wash nyi and chi stl the latter because i m in the wrong time zone we in canada are basically swamped with coverage and i wonder how many series games are televised nationally or even locally in the us and how much precedence they take over say local news if the games go into double ot email me so as not to waste bandwidth please my news feed is kind of slow anyways l tr
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probert and wendall game two of the detroit toronto series will be a rougher game i believe that clark will be coming out hitting on all cylindars i believe that probert will take exception to this and a fight between clark and probert will result i know this sounds kind of ridiculous but i know game two toronto will come out hitting any takers on this issue
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hey what about teh cannucks hi all due to living in the bay area i as unable to see vancouver s victory over the jets last night i know the score but that rarely describes the game could someone please post a brief sonapsis sp of waht happened how well did each team play were the cannucks deserving of the victory also could some kind soul please email me the end of season individual player stats greg vancouver for the cup in a virtual reality
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re if you were pat burns jason cockroft jake rambler eng sun com wrote what are the leafs to do i am a leaf supporter and i say the leafs are going down in four unless there is nothing short of a miracle or a stroke of genenius hits root for another team andreychuck and borchevsky have no business playing against the wings they are too small the key to any leafs success will have to be clark he is the only centre who can have andreychuk is not small slow and sloth like maybe but he is about and that is not what i would consider as small as an aside the big andreychunk as i call him has been known to disappear come playoff time this was one of his main problems when playing for buffalo go leafs go sabres dave blaszyk e mail dvb snowmass ssd kodak com mail eastman kodak d v b c plant bldg mc rochester new york
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re how to beat the pens you can t but good luck trying jim
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re how to beat pittsburgh in article apr guvax acc georgetown edu apanjabi guvax acc georgetown edu writes in article afnkovk uhb rdtj andrew cmu edu robert angelo pleshar rp andrew cmu edu writes kfnjyea uh i vmus andrew cmu edu nntp posting host po andrew cmu edu in reply to kfnjyea uh i vmus andrew cmu edu from anna matyas now if we could just clone chelios s personality and transplant it into all of the defensemen on the islanders capitals and devils gerald in other words you want to turn them all into assholes so they will spend lots of time in the penalty box and get lots of misconducts and this comes from a chelios fan yeah and also be second in the team in scoring and play about minutes a game and play on the power play and kill penalties and be the best defenseman in the league i d take a whole team of chelioses if i could that way when one got a penalty the others could kill it ralph how to beat pittsburgh i mario lemieux a death too much kimo slash to skull ask the rangers slashing his wrist ii jaromir jagr a deportation send him back to whatever commie country he s from tell him that bill clinton is going too iii kevin stevens a fighting call bob probert call tie domi call my grandmother she d kick his ass since everybody wants to see pittsburgh players not playing the stanley cup would be devaluated iskander ayari email iskander ayari loria fr ou ayari loria fr
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re smiths birthday goal was leafs go all the way in article c wty u mcs anl gov mwm aps anl gov michael w mcdowell writes in article kl undergrad math uwaterloo ca kwk chow descartes uwaterloo ca kevin c writes thanks for the goals by steve smith i don t see why more people don t blame grant fuhr for the goal that smith put in his own net it s common to play the puck back to your own goalie when deep in your own end and under little or no pressure from the offensive team if fuhr had been in position the puck would have never crossed the line from this account it doesn t sound like you even saw the goal mike smith came out from behind his own net and fired a breakout pass that hit fuhr in the back of the leg fuhr was backing up at the time and never saw what happened the puck went straight off fuhr s leg and into the net fuhr never had a chance there was no play back to the goaltender in fact perry berezan of calgary had just dumped it in and smith was retrieving it it was unfortunate that it happened smith is a nice guy and was only a rookie at the time and on his birthday too but all the blame lies with him starting in pee wee coaches tell players never to make a cross ice pass in front of their own net too much chance of having it intercepted or hitting the goaltender or whatever and to the people who say that smith cost the oilers the series i can only say that he certainly didn t cause the team to lose the other three games there was no reason for a powerhouse team like edmonton to be tied late in the third period of the th game of the second round everybody on the team has to take responsibility for them even being in that situation alan
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re potvin s new goalie mask in article allan swanlake allan cs ualberta ca allan sullivan writes slegge kean ucs mun ca writes i was wtahcing right guard hockey week on tsn yesterday and they had a feature on this guy that does a lot most of the masks for nhl goalies they talked about how they are made what they are made of and the designs that are put on them etc the best one of all was one he never talked about he just held it up it has the current leafs crest on the chin and an awesome looking black panther on the forehead it has to be a new mask for felix potvin but he never said whose it was are you sure this program was current i know that grant fuhr had a black panther on the forehead of his mask when he played with the leafs it would seem logical that the mask is potvins his nickname is the cat which would go a long ways towards explaining the panther of course it could be an old story and the mask is fuhrs too alan
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help help help does anyone have the nhl standings for march th i need them immediately for a project please post or email thanks andy hillery school of architecture state university of new york at buffalo
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re smiths birthday goal was leafs go all the way in article c juna vh cpsc ucalgary ca layfield cpsc ucalgary ca colin layfield writes in article c wty u mcs anl gov mwm aps anl gov writes in article kl undergrad math uwaterloo ca kwk chow descartes uwaterloo ca kevin c writes thanks for the goals by steve smith i don t see why more people don t blame grant fuhr for the goal that smith put in his own net it s common to play the puck back to your own goalie when deep in your own end and under little or no pressure from the offensive team if fuhr had been in position the puck would have never crossed the line mike mcdowell i have to disagree with you on this one it is anything but common in the or years i have been watching hockey i have never seen this happen ever i am not sure what league you have been watching anyone else agree with this yes colin i have to agree with you here i ve put the puck in my own net the same way smith did only once mind you and it was definitely my fault it is not a common play to play the puck the way that smith did luckily for me when i did it it was only a scrimmage craig
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blues into playoffs beat tb by dave luecking of the post dispatch staff at thursday night the scoreboard watchers at the arena began to cheer their cheer quickly turned into a roar and finally the sellout crowd of rose as one to rock the old barn at oakland avenue in a salute to the playoff bound blues the scoreboard had just flashed the news from detroit red wings stars with the north stars loss the blues officially clinched fourth place and the final playoff spot in the norris division good thing because the blues quit playing they held a lead over tampa bay when the detroit minnesota final appeared with minutes remaining in the second period they promptly went to sleep and barely held on for a victory that nearly slipped away at the buzzer tampa s bob beers tipped in a pass from shawn chambers but officiating supervisor john d amico and video goal judge rich schweigler ruled that the shot had gone into the net after time had expired i m glad i didn t see it go in at the end blues coach bob berry said if the goal had counted he d have been more upset than he was by the blues disappearance in the final minutes holding on for the victory and making the playoffs tempered berry s anger it wasn t pretty at the end he said we played great minutes as good as we played all year it slipped away at the end it shouldn t have but it did still the blues won prompting another ovation from the crowd at game s end despite their shoddy effort in the third period and all the turmoil this season the blues still made the playoffs they ll meet the chicago blackhawks in a best of seven norris division semifinal beginning at noon sunday at chicago stadium the blues finished the regular season with a record of for points their fourth consecutive plus season minnesota finished three points behind in fifth place with a record of for points tampa bay which played spoiler last week by tying the blues at tampa ended its first season with a record of for points the poor finish cast an unnecessary shadow over what should have been a joyous blues locker room instead the mood was one of relief and some disappointment it s a shame we let down said kevin miller one of three blues to score two goals brendan shanahan and bob bassen were the others there was no need for a letdown if we d have kept working it would have ended and everyone would be happy instead a lot of players were happy just to make the playoffs we won and that s all that matters said brett hull scoreless and minus for the night once we got up it was really tough to play some players didn t have a problem just because the score was announced our line didn t quit said rich sutter who played with bassen and miller we still had a game to play you can t allow five goals like we did that s not right it was disappointing to see what was going on bassen was almost frantic on the bench because of the blues effort somehow he missed the announcement of minnesota s loss i didn t know it was final he said i was kind of looking around on the bench i didn t realize it was a final for some reason we re in the playoffs and that s great but it s a little disappointing to play like we did at the end the letdown was precisely the reason that berry had instructed the scoreboard operators to keep the minnesota detroit score off of the board the score showed until it first popped up with detroit leading in the third period the blues already led at the time i told them i didn t want to see the score i didn t want to know the score berry said i felt we had to win the game and that s the approach we took if minnesota took a lead berry feared the pressure of having to win might bother the blues if detroit led he worried the blues might quit until the announcement the blues played splendidly shanahan got the crowd going at of the first period scoring his th of the season then miller and bassen took charge late in the period with the teams playing four on four miller broke in on left wing deked defenseman roman hamrlik and beat former blues goalie pat jablonski with the rebound of his own shot with seconds remaining in the period then just seconds later bassen rifled a long slap shot past jablonski after defenseman rick zombo intercepted a tampa pass in the neutral zone bassen made it just seconds into the second period scoring on the rebound of bret hedican s shot the goal gave him his first two goal game of the season and reminded him of a special friend last year bassen befriended young oliver mulvihill who died of a rare form of cancer at age on feb i was thinking of my buddy oliver bassen said he s in heaven now and i know he was watching i know he s happy miller increased the blues lead to on a break away goal set up by zombo at then steve maltais broke curtis joseph s shutout just seconds later making it less than a minute after the north stars final was announced tim bergland scored and cut the lead to but shanahan scored his st converting a pass from nelson emerson with seconds remaining in the second period then it was all lightning adam creighton scored seconds into the third period prompting berry to rest the overworked joseph guy hebert allowed goals to shawn chambers and danton cole in a span of midway through the third period the goals by chambers and cole made shanahan s second goal stand up as the winner we were in there shanahan said the game was over we were in a l l e z l e s b l u e s joe ashkar contact for the blues saint louis jca cec wustl edu blues
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nhl results for games played nhl results for games played standings patrick adams norris smythe tm w l t pt tm w l t pt tm w l t pt tm w l t pt xpit xbos xchi xvan ywas yque ydet ycal ynj ymon ytor yla ynyi ybuf stl ywin phl har min edm nyr ott tb sj x clinched division title y clinched playoff berth boston bruins ottawa senators st period bos roberts juneau bos wiemer juneau oates nd period bos neely juneau murphy bos hughes richer kimble ott archibald rumble lamb rd period ott boschman kudelski powerplay opportunities bruins of senators of shots on goal bruins senators boston bruins moog shots saves blue second shots saves ottawa senators sidorkiewicz shots saves berthiaume third shots saves att washington capitals new york rangers st period none nd period none rd period was bondra pivonka cavallini was bondra cote pivonka powerplay opportunities capitals of rangers of shots on goal capitals rangers washington capitals tabaracci shots saves new york rangers richter shots saves att new york islanders hartford whalers st period nyi ferraro malakhov king nyi hogue thomas turgeon har yake poulin har yake nylander poulin nd period har verbeek cassels weinrich pp nyi thomas king ferraro rd period har burt sanderson cassels nyi malakhov hogue overtime har janssens poulin powerplay opportunities islanders of whalers of shots on goal islanders whalers new york islanders fitzpatrick shots saves hartford whalers lenaduzzi shots saves att pittsburgh penguins new jersey devils st period pit daniels needham tippett njd c lemieux semak driver pit k stevens tocchet murphy pp njd zelepukin driver niedermayer nd period pit m lemieux stevens tocchet njd semak c lemieux zelepukin pit mceachern jagr barrasso njd s stevens guerin pellerin pit m lemieux sh njd richer nicholls njd c lemieux semak zelepukin rd period pit mullen jagr m lemieux overtime none powerplay opportunities penguins of devils of shots on goal penguins devils pittsburgh penguins barrasso shots saves new jersey devils billington shots saves att spike
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re smiths birthday goal was leafs go all the way in article c wty u mcs anl gov mwm aps anl gov writes in article kl undergrad math uwaterloo ca kwk chow descartes uwaterloo ca kevin c writes thanks for the goals by steve smith i don t see why more people don t blame grant fuhr for the goal that smith put in his own net it s common to play the puck back to your own goalie when deep in your own end and under little or no pressure from the offensive team if fuhr had been in position the puck would have never crossed the line mike mcdowell i have to disagree with you on this one it is anything but common in the or years i have been watching hockey i have never seen this happen ever i am not sure what league you have been watching anyone else agree with this colin layfield religion and sex are power plays manipulate the people for the money they pay the university of calgary selling skin selling god computer science the numbers look the same on their credit cards layfield cpsc ucalgary ca queensryche
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re european expansion and our f cked system how long would they support teams that are run on ranger based corporate thinking i use the term lightly we don t need a good product because these duffuses in nyc would fill the arena for ottawa s record every year haha sorry had ta say it look how long the maple leafs and nordiques used similar logic not that they fielded bad teams solely to field bad teams but the maple leafs and a certain dead man who was in charge were one of the cheapest teams in the history of the sport guess what they were immensely popular at the gate the nordiques have also done well for a team that had missed the playoffs so many years in a row look at british or any european soccer as an example they never have fan problems ha such humor they have major fan problems namely that on occasion some of them don t make it home from the match the soccer fans tend to be fanatical much like the montreal fans who firebomb the players and coaches houses when they play pathetically jpc john p curcio go bruins philips laboratories jpc philabs philips com scarborough road briarcliff manor ny
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re tv schedule for next week in article apr yuma acns colostate edu mmb lamar colostate edu michael burger writes united states tv schedule april devils islanders at pittsburgh est abc to eastern time zone april st louis at chicago cdt abc to cent mou time zones april los angeles at calgary pdt abc to pacific time zone april devils islanders at pittsburgh espn april tba espn april tba espn does anyone know if there will be alternate games in cities where local broadcast rights are being protected i d really love to see the bruins a couple times and with this pro patrick bias shown by espn something tells me that i will have to wait until the conference finals to see them jpc john p curcio go bruins philips laboratories jpc philabs philips com scarborough road briarcliff manor ny
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re the hawks will return to the finals in article qk k itg uxa ecn bgu edu cubrj uxa ecn bgu edu brian johnson writes well now that the hawks have won the division the road is a little easier for the playoffs let toronto and detroit beat the hell out of each other while chicago sweeps st louis that just makes it easier in the second round with all the rest they will get and tor det getting none for the conf champ they will have a hard time versus the division but that div will be pretty battered also so the advantage goes to the hawks again then bring pitt and sure the hawks will probably lose but its better to get that far and lose than to not go brian hopefully a miracle o k not quite a miracle but close will occur and pittsburgh will be elminated prior to the finals if they make it again they will probably keep the cup if they don t it s the hawks turn go blackhawks congrats to jeremy roenick for being only the nd hawks player to post back to back goal seasons scott
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re the hawks will return to the finals in article qk k itg uxa ecn bgu edu cubrj uxa ecn bgu edu brian johnson writes well now that the hawks have won the division the road is a little easier for the playoffs let toronto and detroit beat the hell out of each other while chicago sweeps st louis that just makes it easier in brian don t be so sure the blues played the hawks pretty well this season and won twice at the stadium the blues will give the hawks a hard time this series is one of the best first round matchups could go either way the hawks will probably prevail in seven games a l l e z l e s b l u e s joe ashkar contact for the blues saint louis jca cec wustl edu blues
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nhl summary parse results for games played thur april philadelphia buffalo first period philadelphia recchi galley lindros second period philadelphia hawgood dineen eklund pp philadelphia dineen mcgill sh buffalo barnaby hawerchuk smehlik pp buffalo wood lafontaine ledyard pp buffalo mogilny hawerchuk carney pp third period philadelphia eklund dineen beranek buffalo mogilny errey lafontaine philadelphia dineen brind amour pp philadelphia dineen brind amour galley sh philadelphia acton dineen brind amour philadelphia power play special goals pp sh total scorer g a pts acton beranek brind amour dineen eklund galley hawgood lindros mcgill recchi buffalo power play scorer g a pts barnaby carney errey hawerchuk lafontaine ledyard mogilny smehlik wood minnesota detroit first period minnesota mcphee ludwig second period minnesota dahlen courtnall gagner pp detroit drake howe ogrodnick detroit ysebaert lidstrom howe pp third period detroit ciccarelli coffey chiasson pp detroit kennedy burr probert detroit yzerman ciccarelli gallant minnesota dahlen courtnall gagner detroit power play scorer g a pts burr chiasson ciccarelli coffey drake gallant howe kennedy lidstrom ogrodnick probert ysebaert yzerman minnesota power play scorer g a pts courtnall dahlen gagner ludwig mcphee edmonton winnipeg first period winnipeg shannon steen davydov pp second period winnipeg selanne olausson winnipeg zhamnov selanne third period no scoring winnipeg power play scorer g a pts davydov olausson selanne shannon steen zhamnov edmonton power play no scoring toronto chicago first period toronto baumgartner unassisted second period chicago roenick murphy chelios toronto andreychuk mironov lefebvre chicago murphy roenick chelios pp third period chicago matteau unassisted error power play goal mismatch assuming calc value error team toronto calc read chicago power play scorer g a pts chelios matteau murphy roenick toronto power play scorer g a pts andreychuk baumgartner lefebvre mironov first period st louis shanahan brown felsner st louis miller bassen brown st louis bassen zombo second period st louis bassen hedican miller st louis miller zombo hedican tampa bay maltais hamrlik tampa bay bergland hervey gilhen st louis shanahan emerson third period tampa bay creighton bergland bergevin tampa bay chambers zamuner cole tampa bay cole beers bradley st louis power play scorer g a pts bassen brown emerson felsner hedican miller shanahan zombo tampa bay power play scorer g a pts beers bergevin bergland bradley chambers cole creighton gilhen hamrlik hervey maltais zamuner san jose calgary first period no scoring second period san jose garpenlov odgers gaudreau pp calgary nieuwendyk macinnis suter pp calgary ranheim otto suter calgary yawney nieuwendyk roberts calgary berube paslawski skrudland third period san jose wood odgers kisio calgary reichel unassisted calgary roberts musil paslawski pp san jose kisio unassisted calgary paslawski ashton stern calgary power play scorer g a pts ashton berube macinnis musil nieuwendyk otto paslawski ranheim reichel roberts skrudland stern suter yawney san jose power play scorer g a pts garpenlov gaudreau kisio odgers wood vancouver los angeles first period los angeles robitaille gretzky sandstrom vancouver babych craven nedved pp los angeles sandstrom gretzky robitaille second period vancouver linden ronning courtnall pp vancouver ward hunter nedved los angeles gretzky sandstrom robitaille los angeles zhitnik kurri robitaille pp los angeles millen hardy pp third period vancouver ronning dirk vancouver ronning courtnall linden pp vancouver linden courtnall ronning los angeles donnelly millen granato pp vancouver courtnall ronning ratushny vancouver ronning linden diduck en vancouver power play special goals pp en total scorer g a pts babych courtnall craven diduck dirk hunter linden nedved ratushny ronning ward los angeles power play scorer g a pts donnelly granato gretzky hardy kurri millen robitaille sandstrom zhitnik
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goalie mask update here are the results after three days of voting remember pts for st for nd and for rd also you can still turn in votes and if the guy isn t a regular goalie or he is retired please include the team thanks for your time and keep on sending in those votes player team pts votes brian hayward san jose andy moog boston curtis joseph st louis ed belfour chicago gerry cheevers boston retired manon rheaume atlanta ihl ron hextall quebec don beaupre washington others receiving vote artus irbe sj tim cheveldae det clint malarchuck buf sd ihl grant fuhr buf rick wamsley tor ret jon casey minn john vanbiesbrouck nyr ken dryden mon ret bob essensa win mike vernon cal glenn healy nyi tommy soderstron ray leblanc usa go skins now for the next question does emotional music have quite go braves an effect on you mike patton faith no more go hornets go capitals mike friedman hrivnak fan internet gtd a prism gatech edu
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ahl calder cup playoff schedule and results calder cup playoff schedule and results home team in caps if necesary first round springfield indians vs providence bruins gm springfield providence gm springfield providence gm providence at springfield cd islanders vs adirondack red wings gm last night cdi at adirondack gm cdi at adirondack gm adirondack at cdi gm adirondack at cdi gm cdi at adirondack gm adirondack at cdi gm cdi at adirondack baltimore skipjacks at binghamton rangers gm baltimore at binghamton gm baltimore at binghamton gm binghamton at baltimore gm binghamton at baltimore gm baltimore at binghamton gm binghmaton at baltimore gm baltimore at binghamton utica devils vs rochester americans gm utica at rochester gm utica at rochester gm rochester at utica gm rochester at utica gm utica at rochester gm rochester at utica gm utica at rochester moncton hawks vs st john s maple leafs gm st john s moncton gm moncton vs st john s at halifax gm st john s at moncton cape breton oilers vs fredericton canadiens gm fredericton cape breton ot gm cape breton at fredericton unfortunately the newspaper didnt list complete playoff skeds for series that already began also the paper has not listed final standings so their posting might be delayed until early next week hockey news bri farenell farenebt craft camp clarkson edu ahl and ecac contact for rec sport hockey go usa hockey adirondack red wings calder cup champs clarkson hockey ecac tournament champs glens falls high hockey ny division ii state champs ahl fans join the ahl mailing list ahl news request andrew cmu edu congrats to the boston bruins adams division champions phoenix suns pacific division champions
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re bridgman is out slacelle gandalf ca stephane lacelle writes the ottwawa senators fired mel bridgman at pm today randy sexton is gonna replace him trashy move from a trashy organization after the front office stated that nobody would lose their job over the sens poor performance bridgeman is gone within hours of the teams final game yes i know he screwed up letting the king s grab loach sexton s qualifications aside from being cheap he played some us college hockey he s pals with club president bruce firestone just the kind of experience you need when trying to build an expansion franchise he ll probably be in the hall of fame next year this continues a tradition of front office gaffs paul anka and the arena deal denis potvin and the gm postion mike bossy and the scoring coach how do people in ottawa feel about how the club is being run stephane lacelle brian down bdown vis toronto edu
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goalies i ve heard that you can score on belfour by shooting high because he goes down a lot and on potvin by shooting high on him and then getting the rebound in because he plays so deep in the net any truth to these brad a wings fan but no predictions
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re stop predicting in apr ncsu edu cdkaupan eos ncsu edu carl david kaupang writes it is really annoying to see all of these predictions on the net who really cares who you think will win please stop with the predictions we all know the caps are going to win the cup so let it go at that david kaupang cdkaupan eos ncsu edu yeah but first they have to deal with the devils who ve had their number all year i m not saying the caps aren t a good team they ve been a thorn on the habs side for the past years just that they won t get past nj paul yatrou yatrou inrs telecom uquebec ca running my pool today wish me luck
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re truly a sad day for hockey farewell minnesota fans get stuffed dallas stars as the north stars fade to black i hope that minneapolis st paul are not long without an nhl team it just seems right that the hotbed of amateur hockey in the usa should have an nhl team as well the loss of the team is certainly not the fault of the fans though the start of the season made it look real bad for a while i wish now that i kept the north stars cap i bought at maple leaf gardens the morning after they eliminated montreal in i got it to spite the montreal fans in the small town where i grew up what a glorious season that was for the north stars dwarf w jim jordan i don t mean to tell you how to live dwarf x gate bnr ca internet your life that s what the tv s for i work for bnr i do not speak for it but if i didn t believe in jesus i d be going to hell peter heath
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re goalie mask update in article hydra gatech edu gtd a prism gatech edu hrivnak writes here are the results after three days of voting remember pts for st for nd and for rd also you can still turn in votes and if the guy isn t a regular goalie or he is retired please include the team thanks for your time and keep on sending in those votes glenn healy nyi tommy soderstron ray leblanc usa soderstrom plays with philly but he doesn t have a moulded mask he s got the helmet and cage variety in white or at least that s what he wore thirteen hours ago valerie hammerl some days i have to remind him he s not hammerl acsu buffalo edu mario lemieux herb brooks on claude acscvjh ubms cc buffalo edu lemieux top scorer for the devils but v pwwpz ubvms cc buffalo edu known for taking dumb penalties
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re ahl season in review off ice stuff in article apr news clarkson edu farenebt craft camp clarkson edu droopy writes senators sold stuff deleted the senators are currently in serious negotiations with charlottetown new brunswick and are expected to move there it has been announced that the senators will move their ahl franchise to charlottetown p e i prince edward island not new brunswick charlie cook charlie calvin cs unb ca
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hot cold streaks ok guys i need a list of the teams who have been hot or cold during the last games doesn t need to be accurate a rough guess will do i m about to enter a playoff pool and i want to know who is hot going into the playoffs don t need to mention pittsburgh they can t get any hotter than they are now p s i need this by sunday yvon lavoie
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ahl playoff results game s of adirondack cdi adirondack leads series first round springfield indians vs providence bruins gm springfield providence gm springfield providence gm providence at springfield gm providence at springfield gm springfield at providence gm providence at springfield gm springfield at providence cd islanders vs adirondack red wings gm adirondack cdi gm cdi at adirondack gm adirondack at cdi gm adirondack at cdi gm cdi at adirondack gm adirondack at cdi gm cdi at adirondack baltimore skipjacks at binghamton rangers gm baltimore at binghamton gm baltimore at binghamton gm binghamton at baltimore gm binghamton at baltimore gm baltimore at binghamton gm binghmaton at baltimore gm baltimore at binghamton utica devils vs rochester americans gm utica at rochester gm utica at rochester gm rochester at utica gm rochester at utica gm utica at rochester gm rochester at utica gm utica at rochester moncton hawks vs st john s maple leafs gm st john s moncton gm moncton vs st john s at halifax gm st john s at moncton gm st john s at moncton gm moncton vs st john s at halifax gm st john s at moncton gm moncton vs st john s at halifax cape breton oilers vs fredericton canadiens gm fredericton cape breton ot gm cape breton at fredericton gm fredericton at cape breton gm fredericton at cape breton gm cape breton at fredericton gm fredericton at cape breton gm cape breton at fredericton bri farenell farenebt craft camp clarkson edu ahl and ecac contact for rec sport hockey go usa hockey adirondack red wings calder cup champs clarkson hockey ecac tournament champs glens falls high hockey ny division ii state champs ahl fans join the ahl mailing list ahl news request andrew cmu edu congrats to the boston bruins adams division champions phoenix suns pacific division champions
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re plus minus stat in article blue cis pitt edu jrmst pitt edu joseph r mcdonald writes jagr has a higher but francis has had more points and take it from an informed observer ronnie francis has had a much better season than jaromir jagr this is not to take anything away from jaro who had a decent year although it didn t live up to the expectations of some bowman tended to overplay francis at times because he is a bowman style player he plays hard at all times doesn t disregard his defensive responsibilities and is a good leader bowman rewarded him be increasing his ice time jagr can be very arrogant and juvenile and display a me first attitude this rubbed bowman the wrong way and caused him to lose some ice time throughout the year francis consistently recieved more ice time than jagr althouhg i have never seen stats on this subject i am pretty sure that jagr had more points per minute played that francis when you add to that jagr s better rating i think it becomes evident that jagr had a better season not that francis had a bad one gregmeister
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re goalie masks in article netnews upenn edu kkeller mail sas upenn edu keith keller writes my vote goes to john vanbiesbrouck his mask has a skyline of new york city and on the sides there are a bunch of bees beezer it looks really sharp funny you should mention this one time on hnic don cherry pointed out vanbiesbrouck s mask he hated it i think he said something to the effect of you see he was great last year now he goes out and gets that dopey mask and he can t stop a beachball you may or may not take cherry seriously at all but i cracked up when i heard it i think ed belfour has the current best mask in the nhl btw i also like moog s and i ll give fuhr s new one an honourable mention although i haven t seen it closely yet it looked good from a distance what s also neat is chevaldae s in detroit they call him chevy so he has two checkered flags painted at the top as in an auto race
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re ulf and all layfield cpsc ucalgary ca colin layfield writes in article pdlksinnmq giraffe zoo cs yale edu wuziyun suned cs yale edu you wanna know writes let me give my two cents worth in this whole thing i am very sick of pittsburg fans and they are my second favorite team talk about how why can t bruins forget about ulf samuelsson when we have forgotten all about adam graves beside the obvious fact that lemeuix s career was never endangered by graves slash while neely is still bother by his injury i think the most important reason is adam graves has played clean hockey ever since while ulf samulesson continues to play dirty yes trying to hit a player where he s injured is dirty fans have can forget about one dirty play but how can you forget about ulf samulesson when everynight when i watch hockey high lights i get reminded of how dirty he is hitting a player when he s injured is dirty can you explain this statement do you mean a player who was just injured on the ice or do you mean a player who is playing hurt if a player is hurt he should not bother playing because i don t belive any player should be let up on just because they are playing hurt i m not an ulf fan but at least i can spot the fact he is like calgary s theoren fleury in the respect that part of his game is to really piss other players off as that s part of his job but he lacks ulf s size i am an ulf and pgh fan and what pisses me off about the whole adam graves ulf samuesson debate is that ulf plays hard hitting hockey nothing wrong with that while graves does what he does when the only way to win a game is to intentionally hurt someone which bites players that really piss me off are the ones who insist on hitting from behind or try to go for the knees to injure the players this kind of garbage has got to go i would really like to see muni get pasted as he is one of the worst offenders i thought they had instituted all kinds of new rules this season to stop crap like that is it just me or does the officiating just still stink to high heaven imho if they could get rid of the existing refs and institute a new system with more than one ref on the ice to keep an eye on the trouble makers then a lot of these things would stop and then the game would be ruled by the finnesse players mario selanne bure messier et al just my colin layfield religion and sex are power plays manipulate the people for the money they pay the university of calgary selling skin selling god computer science the numbers look the same on their credit cards layfield cpsc ucalgary ca queensryche tim drozinski embry riddle aero univ drozinst erau db erau edu
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nhl results for games played nhl results for games played standings patrick adams norris smythe tm w l t pt tm w l t pt tm w l t pt tm w l t pt xpit xbos xchi xvan ywas yque ydet ycal ynj ymon ytor yla ynyi ybuf ystl ywin phl har min edm nyr ott tb sj x clinched division title y clinched playoff berth minnesota north stars detroit red wings st period min mcphee ludwig nd period min dahlen courtnall gagner pp det drake howe ogrodnick det ysebaert lidstrom howe pp rd period det ciccarelli coffey chiasson pp det kennedy burr probert det yzerman ciccarelli gallant min dahlen courtnall gagner powerplay opportunities north stars of red wings of shots on goal north stars red wings minnesota north stars casey shots saves detroit red wings cheveldae shots saves att philadelphia flyers buffalo sabres st period phl recchi galley lindros nd period phl hawgood dineen eklund pp phl dineen mcgill sh buf barnaby hawerchuk smehlik pp buf wood lafontaine ledyard pp buf mogilny hawerchuk carney pp rd period phl eklund dineen beranek buf mogilny errey lafontaine phl dineen brind amour pp phl dineen brind amour galley sh phl acton dineen brind amour powerplay opportunities flyers of sabres of shots on goal flyers sabres philadelphia flyers soderstrom shots saves buffalo sabres fuhr shots saves hasek second shots saves att edmonton oilers winnipeg jets st period win shannon steen davydov pp nd period win selanne olausson win zhamnov selanne rd period none powerplay opportunities oilers of jets of shots on goal oilers jets edmonton oilers ranford shots saves winnipeg jets essensa shots saves att toronto maple leafs chicago blackhawks st period tor baumgartner nd period chi roenick murphy chelios tor andreychuk mironov lefebvre chi murphy roenick chelios pp rd period chi matteau powerplay opportunities maple leafs of blackhawks of shots on goal maple leafs blackhawks toronto maple leafs potvin shots saves chicago blackhawks belfour shots saves att tampa bay lightning st louis blues st period stl shanahan brown felsner stl miller bassen brown stl bassen zombo nd period stl bassen hedican miller stl miller zombo hedican tbl maltais hamrlik tbl bergland harvey gilhen tbl shanahan emerson rd period tbl creighton bergland bergevin tbl chambers zamuner cole tbl cole beers bradley powerplay opportunities lightning of blues of shots on goal lightning blues tampa bay lightning jablonski shots saves bergeron third shots saves st louis blues joseph shots saves hebert third shots saves att san jose sharks calgary flames st period none nd period sjs garpenlov odgers gaudreau pp cal nieuwendyk macinnis suter pp cal ranheim otto suter cal yawney nieuwendyk roberts cal berube paslawski skrudland rd period sjs wood odgers kisio cal reichel cal roberts musil paslawski pp sjs kisio cal paslawski ashton stern powerplay opportunities sharks of flames of shots on goal sharks flames san jose sharks irbe shots saves calgary flames vernon shots saves att vancouver canucks los angeles kings st period lak robitaille gretzky sandstrom van babych craven nedved pp lak sandstrom gretzky robitaille nd period van linden ronning courtnall pp van ward hunter nedved lak gretzky sandstrom robitaille lak zhitnik kurri robitaille pp lak millen hardy pp rd period van ronning dirk van ronning courtnall linden pp van linden courtnall ronning lak donnelly millen granato pp van courtnall ronning ratushny van ronning linden diduck en powerplay opportunities canucks of kings of shots on goal canucks kings vanocuver canucks whitmore shots saves los angeles kings stauber shots saves hrudey third shots saves att spike
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re truly a sad day for hockey joel alvstad writes a fine year history came to a close tonight as the minnesota north stars or norm s stars whichever you prefer lost to the red wings by a score of the stars goals were scored by mike mcphee and ulf dahlen who netted two including the final one in franchise history with less than a minute to play this is very sad indeed my condolences to the minnesota fans who are losing their team i fear that within the next decade or so the only professional sports team left in pittsburgh will be the steelers we should always enjoy things when we can you never know when they ll be taken away from us mom
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re thumbs up to espn especially when the wings player hit the rut and went into the boards injuring his shoulder and they blotted out the injury report the wings player was yves racine and he returned later in that same period mike
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re nhl draft in article io maine maine edu jon carr io maine maine edu writes when is the draft this year and will there be any coverage i know the upcomming nfl draft is on espn anyone got the details paul kariya pick no perhaps he won t last long i don t know the exact coverage in the states in canada it is covered by tsn so maybe espn will grab their coverage i don t know as for the picks ottawa picks which means it is almost that alexander daigle will go he ll either stay or be traded in montreal or quebec imo i would take kariya he should alot of leadership in the ncaa and so far in the world championships daigle didn t show this for his junior team san jose will then get kariya tampa bay will either go for a russian kozlov i think that s it or a defenseman rob niedemeyer probably spelt the last name wrong because of expansion i won t go further but i will name other of the blue chip prospects chris gratton chris pridham a swedish player who i can t remember his name draft order ottawa san jose tampa bay south florida or anahiem south florida or anahiem hartford edmonton dallas ny rangers philadelphia the th thru th picks could be wrong i don t have the standings here and am guessing in my mind there are top notch prospects in the draft with kariya leading the way but not going shawn go caps two first round picks for the next three years thanks st louis or should i say ron caron and scott stevens
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re list of tee times at metropolitan toronto golf courses for monday in article apr julian uwo ca lee gaul csd uwo ca steve lee writes woops this is rec sport hockey not rec sport golf hope you check the newsgroup header next time before posting duh he was making a joke about how long the leafs would last in the playoffs y know hit the courses in the off season sheesh people are so quick to complain go skins now for the next question does emotional music have quite go braves an effect on you mike patton faith no more go hornets go capitals mike friedman hrivnak fan internet gtd a prism gatech edu
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re nhlpa poll partial stats results in article apr mtroyal ab ca caldwell mtroyal ab ca writes all these people who send in their polls should take a closer look at njd they are a very deep team with two very capable goalies and excellent forwards and defensemen shooter in richer an all around do it all in todd chef stasny master of a thousand dishes power play kevin todd is an oiler and has been one for months how closely do you follow the devils anyway jeez sigh this was written about the game nhlpa hockey which does not have precise up to date rosters why don t people think before they post jeez go skins now for the next question does emotional music have quite go braves an effect on you mike patton faith no more go hornets go capitals mike friedman hrivnak fan internet gtd a prism gatech edu
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re nhl team captains in article apr jarvis csri toronto edu leunggm odin control utoronto ca gary leung writes in article apr samba oit unc edu scott marks launchpad unc edu scott marks writes and of course mike ramsey was at one time the captain in buffalo prior to being traded to pittsburgh currently the penguins have former captains and real captain lemieux playing for them they rotate the a s during the season and even the c while mario was out even troy loney has worn the c for the pens i think that mike foligno was the captain of the sabres when he got traded to the leafs also wasn t rick vaive the captain of the leafs when he got traded to chicago with steve thomas for ed olcyzk and someone speaking of the leafs i believe that darryl sittler was their captain he d torn the c off his jersey but i think he re claimed the captaincy later on when he was traded to the flyers oh yeah of course gretzky was the captain of the oilers before he was traded wasn t he dale hawerchuk and troy murray were both captains of the jets when they were traded murray this year in mid season hawerchuk a few years ago in the off season daryl turner r s h contact for the winnipeg jets internet umturne ccu umanitoba ca fidonet or please route through tkachuk over to zhamnov up to sel nne he shoots he scores the jets win the cup the jets win the cup essensa for vezina housley for norris sel nne for calder
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bruins klingon connection i was wondering if any star trek tng fans in this newsgroup knew of a possible relationship between the bruins players douris moog and the klingon names duras and worf son of moog i suppose it s a coincidence just curious bart
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thumbs way way way down to espn tuesday and the isles caps game is going into overtime what does espn do tom mees says we are obligated to bring you baseball i hate to say this but last year the coverage of the playoffs on sports channel america out in colorado was vastly superior to what espn is giving us this year charlie shub cdash cs colorado edu or on leave at the university of iowa cdash cs uiowa edu
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red wings goespel detroit s going to beat toronto in or less granted gilmour should get the hart trophy not lemieux just look at what gilmour did for toronto when you think of toronto who comes to mind gilmour andreychuk potvin ah did i mentio n gilmour back to detroit there really isn t a team that could stand up to them if all the players on the team play to their potential no one could stop them yzerman fedorov coffey lindstrom there s more firepower there than pittsburgh and they don t tri p over their own skates detroit over toronto in patrick walker detroit over chicago in university of new bruns detroit over vancouver in canada detroit over nords in disco still sucks
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re panther s president in article apr alchemy chem utoronto ca golchowy alchemy chem utoronto ca gerald olchowy writes the san jose sharks and ottawa senators are each on their second gm already i d be willing to wager that both the sharks and senators will probably see their rd gm s and perhaps their th before we see the panthers second actually fired coach george kingston was a third of the gm triumvirate now that the trio is now duo dean lombardi and chuck grillo the sharks are already on their rd office of the gm and a th is likely to happen before september they ll either add the new coach to the oofgm or name a single gm so your wager should be amended to read that sharks are likely to have their th gm before the panther s get their nd can t wait to see how the next season s nhl guide and record book lists the gm history of the sharks given the depth of next year s draft the expansion draft rules and the reputation of their gms anaheim and miami look pretty good as the first s expansion teams to win a cup san jose and ottawa have instability at the gm position something that philly nyi edmonton and calgary did not have when they won their first cups pittsburgh did but they needed a quarter century mike eisler mre eng sun com not only are they leafs the best team but their fans are even more intelligent and insightful than pittsburgh s their players are mighty bright too i mean he really was going to get his wallet back right jan brittenson on leaf pen woofers in rec sport hockey
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re sharks review part left wings nlu xenon stanford edu nelson lu writes larry depalma season rd acquired free agent from minnesota grade i c d no netter fan watching the sharks including me knows where depalma was at the end of the season the sharks appeared to still have his rights but he wasn t in san jose he wasn t in kansas city and his name hasn t appeared on the waiver wire sorry nelson but you forgot to ask me if you check the thn stats for kansas city you ll find that larry has been playing for the games having played in games in the period covered in the stats between and the issue with pim not exactly invisible he then was sent down to kansas city walked out from there and was suspended and later reinstated when it was revealed that he was injured he then promptly disappeared from the watching eyes of shark bytes as the mailing list is now known to sharks officials faithful and neither the sharks nor we miss him well having gotten to a chance to talk to him a few times this isn t quite accurate he injured his back a disk injury and did one stupid thing which was to hide it from the sharks and he tried to play through it because he knew he was on the bubble the sharks then sent him to k c at which point he disclosed the injury since he didn t disclose it the sharks and he disagreed about the responsibility and he was suspended for not reporting that was eventually worked out the sharks re instated him as injured and put him into therapy and when he was able to play then shipped him down to k c he fully expects to play in the nhl again although clearly not with the sharks hiding injuries is a stupid no no beyond just a no no very nice guy always hustled his butt off he disappeared because he was hurt i expect he ll surface with another team at some point probably another expansion team but is likely to be a bubble player for the rest of his career has a good work ethic and is good at getting other players motivated unfortunately he played himself out of the sharks future with a bad judgement call john carter season th acquired free agent from boston grade i b b he is very unlikely to be back next season always gave best work ethic on the club except maybe kisio but hustle isn t always enough his future with the sharks was made clear to me one night against the flames when he went behind the crease and tried to hold joel otto against the board he literally had one arm around otto s neck and another wrapped around otto s stick arm otto casually turned around and fed the puck in front of the crease for a goal as though carter wasn t there hustle can only cover size so far the sharks have told me point blank that he s gone for good ditto hubie mcdonough he was one of the favorites of the staff but as one said to me you have to make room for the kids carter in fact refused to report to k c and has been suspended by the sharks that might be a defacto retirement but i haven t heard anything official his only hope in hockey now is the gulls jean francois quintin season st acquired from minnesota in dispersal draft grade i b b i don t understand why the sharks didn t let quintin play any more than the games he played this season because at least from the games i saw him in he was outmatched and looked fairly lost on the ice i think he shows potential but i didn t think he was quite ready to make the jump to the nhl he should be a solid contender for regular duty next season agreed btw i still think a lot of your grades are more based on how you wish they d performed than how they actually performed i wonder whether you can really judge talent from radio and television nelson i know i have trouble since you don t see the off puck action your views from home and my views from the ice differ in numerous ways mark beaufait season st acquired nd round pick in supplemental draft grade i after a all star season at kansas city beaufait got a cup of coffey with the coffee coffey is with the red wings dody wood season st acquired rd round pick in entry draft grade i d d although perhaps i shouldn t give a grade at all i have been accused of knocking on wood too much you nah he was seriously unimpressive even as a tough guy his rep however as few games as he had in a season that was at that point meaningless i hate to judge the talent too quickly butn in dody s case i m tempted to make an exception but i won t chuq imho von rospach esd support training dal aux chuq apple com member sfwa editor otherrealms genie mac bigot alink chuq minor league fans minors request medraut apple com san jose giants a san francisco giants fans giants request medraut apple com the stick not san jose sharks fans sharks request medraut apple com new seat tbd
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they guy who bad mouthed ulf ditto if we allow people like him to continue to do what he does it s a shame people say that cheap shots and drawing penalties by fake ing is part of the game i say bullsh t if he ever tried some like that on a yzerman he d would have to deal with probert now wouldn t he what ulf does isn t even retaliatory there s now way one could justify what he does and if they do they re fools patrick walker university of new brunswick i i i canada detroit fan extraordinaire
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did you really expect toronto to go anywhere really detroit is a very disciplined team there s a lot of europeans in detroit which would make the game fast so toronto would have to slow the game down which means drawing penalties as a last resort anyway toronto will be a good team as soon as they get more good players toronto is just an average team detroit isn t ballard screwed toronto when he was owner everyone knows that and it s going to take time for toronto to become a real force i expect gilmour to be burnt out next year he can t pull the whole team forever patrick walker university of new brunswick
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espn sucks ot or baseball guess which showing a meaningless relatively baseball game over the overtime of game that was tied up with less than seconds left on the clock gimme a break where does espn get these brilliant decisions from daryl turner r s h contact for the winnipeg jets internet umturne ccu umanitoba ca fidonet or please route through tkachuk over to zhamnov up to sel nne he shoots he scores the jets win the cup the jets win the cup essensa for vezina housley for norris sel nne for calder
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espn the network with a heart dale hunter ties the game scoring his third goal of the game with seconds remaining in regulation you could feel it coming on due to contractual agreements espn will be unable to carry the rest of this game live so that we may show you a worthless early season battle between those two pennant contenders the cleveland indians and the california angels when the winning goal is scored we will do the grave injustice of breaking into the baseball game something reserved only for the deaths of presidents or the trading of joe montana to the chiefs to show you the goal on instant replay aren t you so lucky to have national coverage of hockey it s heidi all over again dammit kevin l stamber purdue university penguins devils roll train roll
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re thumbs way way way down to espn cdash moet cs colorado edu charles shub writes tuesday and the isles caps game is going into overtime what does espn do tom mees says we are obligated to bring you baseball we re probably stuck as mike burger pointed out that the baseball deal was made far in advance of the nhl contract wabc did the same thing they were thankful that the devils were wiped out by because they had to switch over to yankees baseball the proof of the reasons for this is left to the reader it s too bad but i wonder if espn is stuck with other us local team coverage for their alternate games we got nesn s coverage of the bruins sabres with the boston homers they were awful i ve read that derek sanderson is the colour analyst i wonder if he spent his early years after hockey as an intern at pravda before landing this job everything had to be twisted into something good to say about the bruin s involved not even bill wirtz s shills on sc chicago pat foley dale tallon were this bad and just to be fair sc used to take their feed from esn empire sports network the sabre homers and they were horrible too but they were spacy from the cnn highlights i hear chris cuthbert s voice from the cbc coverage of the habs nords series too bad that we couldn t get it on espn with all due respect to the sabres and the bruins mike emrick is substituting on the devils scny team for gary thorne mike was the original devils tv play by play announcer by the way gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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re the guy who bad mouthed ulf patrick walker f hh unb ca writes if he ever tried some like that on a yzerman he d would have to deal with probert now wouldn t he do you realize how many smiles are crossing faces after you wrote that gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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espn thumbs up your jesus christ the score is now the pens are beating the shit out of the devils who gave up in the middle of the nd period espn does something smart the announcer states well folks this game is getting out of hand lets go to the islander capitals game i celebrate as i was actually making progress in my cs homework because i was so bored by the scheduled game i tear down and throw on my jersey hunter scores i go ape shit cause this is the first caps game i ve been able to watch all season and what does espn do they go back to the blowout that nj hasn t a chance in hell of winning the period ends and the sportscaster capitols just tied it up yes oops excuse me goes into his penguin worship mode dont freak pens fans they are worthy of this i m so glad we wont have to play them as much next year and here comes the rd period what its the blowout again oh they were just waiting for the cap isles to get out of intermission good they ve put a close game back on wait whats this shit they re showing the blowout again aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggggggggggggg oh guess what the score is now penguins switch games you holy shit they re changing games its about goddamned time lets see if they ll stay later i think this proves by point the caps game goes into overtime but due to contractual obligations they have to switch to the fucking baseball sorry for my language but im pissed what the hell were they going to do if their scheduled game went into overtime espn get your head out of your ass now i know there are a lot
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wc scores and standings april world championships in germany group a standings munich group b standings dortmund gp w t l gf ga p gp w t l gf ga p canada czech republic russia finland italy germany sweden usa austria france switzerland norway april italy russia norway germany sweden austria usa czech republic april canada switzerland russia austria finland france april sweden canada czech republic germany switzerland italy finland usa april germany france italy sweden czech republic norway april switzerland russia usa france austria canada norway finland april switzerland austria germany finland april russia sweden czech republic france canada italy usa norway april sweden switzerland finland czech republic russia canada germany usa april austria italy france norway playoffs april quarterfinals a b a b april quarterfinals a b a b april relegation a b a b april semifinals a b a b a b a b may relegation bronze medal game may final staffan axelsson etxonss ufsa ericsson se r s h contact for swedish hockey
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abc the real thing ok it seems that everyone else in canada was treated to the real abc telecast while only the people on rogers tv in surrey bc were treated to two channels with don i stink as a commentator whitman doing the play by play the godfather
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re nhl draft in article apr newshub ariel yorku ca cs ariel yorku ca shawn luddington writes as for the picks ottawa picks which means it is almost that alexander daigle will go he ll either stay or be traded in montreal or quebec imo i would take kariya he should alot of leadership in the ncaa and so far in the world championships daigle didn t show this for his junior team san jose will then get kariya tampa bay will either go for a russian kozlov i think that s it or a defenseman rob niedemeyer probably spelt the last name wrong the last name is niedermayer as in new jersey s scott s last name because you guessed it they are brothers but rob niedermayer is a center not a defenseman i am not sure that the sharks will take kariya they aren t saying much but they apparently like niedermayer and victor kozlov along with kariya chris pronger s name has also been mentioned my guess is that they ll take niedermayer they may take pronger except that they already have too many defensive prospects go calgary flames al macinnis for norris gary roberts for hart and smythe go edmonton oilers go for playoffs next year stay in edmonton nelson lu claudius leland stanford edu rec sport hockey contact for the san jose sharks
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re canada sweden at the world champioships in article apr venus cc hollandc pe ca white venus cc hollandc pe ca take me baby writes today at the world championships in munich canada scored an impressive victory over the defending world champs sweden in the game i have seen yesterday in the olympiahalle of munich canada won against sweden the last goal for canada was at in the rd period maybe you shouldn t go and get you another beer before the game is over and then post imaginary results holger s i e m e n s holger ohlwein ap otto hahn ring muenchen tel email holger ohlwein ap mchp sni de n i x d o r f never put off till tomorrow what you can avoid all together
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re goodbye good riddance get lost stars in article blue cis pitt edu gomer pitt edu richard j coyle writes in article apr julian uwo ca kirk gaul csd uwo ca andrew kirk writes first off anyone accepted into the western business school is not a dork second just because one person out of a country of million doesn t think before he she posts an article does not mean that he she is embarrasing canada this network is for expressing what you feel are your thoughts just because someone doesn t agree with you this does not give you the right to call them assholes anyways the north stars are shit actually i think it does give people the privilege of calling folks like you assholes although my own asshole might take offense at being grouped in with a bunch of losers like you i ve never heard of the western business school anyhow probably a chickenshit place rick losers like us you are the fucking moron who has never heard of the western business school or the university of western ontario for that matter why don t you pull your head out of your asshole and smell something other than shit for once so you can look on a map to see where uwo is back to hockey the north stars should be moved because for the past few years they have just been shit a real team like toronto would never be moved andrew andrew kirk university of western ontario london ontario go leafs go
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trivia the habs ok i m sure that this has been asked s of times before but i have wondered since i heard it where the hell did the nickname of the habs come from for the montreal canadiens thanks in advance caine schneider
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nhl regular season final attendance report national hockey league season home attendance report each qtr represents home games qtr will have home games neutral site games are not included s o indicates the number of sell outs team name qtr s o qtr s o qtr s o qtr s o totals average bos buf cal chi det edm har la min mon nj nyi nyr ott phi pit que sj stl tb tor van was win avg
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kings playoff notes stauber tv ratings etc los angeles kings notes playoffs stauber disturbed by third man theme by rick sadowski daily news barry melrose s decision to stick robb stauber in the stands rather than in the crease or even on the bench for the stanley cup playoffs does not sit well with the rookie goaltender i want to be a part of the team at the most crucial time of the year the most fun time of the year and i m not stauber said with some emotion monday i think i have worked hard enough for that stauber said he accepts melrose s choice of kelly hrudey as the teams top goalie in their playoff series with the calgary flames hrudey made saves in sundays opening victory but stauber clearly is upset with his sudden status as the no man behind rick knickle stauber had a record and goals against average down the stretch in the regular season and nearly wrestled the no job from hrudey knickle he won of decisions but had a bloated average twice was yanked from games once for stomach cramps and hasn t played since march yet when the series resumes wednesday knickle will serve as hrudey s backup again and stauber will have to satisfy his playoff hunger by munching on olympic saddledome popcorn if i m supposedly close to being the starter or could have been the starter i dropped too what happened to no stauber wondered not that i d be happy with no but i feel i should at least be a part of this team in the playoffs perhaps stauber eventually will get his chance but melrose apparently is not convinced the year old is capable of handling playoff pressure while insisting he is the kings goalie of the future melrose said stauber flubbed all four of the big games he was asked to win this season they were according to melrose a loss to san jose on dec an loss to the new york rangers on jan a tie with detroit on feb an loss to vancouver on thursday four times this season robb could have emerged as the elite goalie he could have taken it away from kelly hrudey and he didn t do it melrose said an elite goaltender has to carry the ball when you give it to him the mark of a great goalie is that he isn t satisfied to be a backup i m not blaming robb for the losses but if you re going to be no you ve got to be able to walk your talk you ve got to be able to play when everything is on the line robb stauber has a great deal of ability but maybe i expect more from him than he does ouch that remark stung stauber he began the season struggled when the team hit a mid season slump didn t play for a month after knickle was signed off the san diego gulls roster then came on at the end i expect more from myself than anybody including barry melrose said stauber a three year star at the university of minnesota who left school in only to have his development hampered by a string of serious injuries what i ve been through the last four years two knee operations a herniated disk in my back shoulder surgery what more can i go through i obviously do expect a lot from myself otherwise i wouldn t be here anybody who would disagree with that doesn t know me i m not saying barry doesn t know me but don t say i ve been without expectations if anything i m a perfectionist stauber acknowledged he played poorly in the four games melrose mentioned but even though i didn t play well i get knocked down from maybe on to three it s a bit of a jump he said you re almost no or if you play a good game you re no and if you don t you re no why does jack nicklaus shoot a and then a can you explain that that s what barry wanted me to explain to him why i didn t come through when he counted on me i don t know what i do know is it s a sport i ll be there melrose s goalie of the future statement doesn t mean much to stauber before you know it i ll be and there will be no future he said game of the kings flames playoff series drew a nielsen rating on abc channel here in la the kings averaged a nielsen rating in the regular season games aired on channel around the nhl san jose fired coach george kingston who lead the team to a mark in their nd nhl season kingston was over the past years with the sharks former islander executive bill torrey was named as president of the expansion florida panthers bobby clarke was named as the clubs general manager last nights games win van van leads tor det det leads stan willis willis empire dnet hac com net contact l a kings talk with the l a kings mailing list kings cs stanford edu to subscribe or unsubscribe kings request cs stanford edu
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re schedule in article netnews upenn edu kkeller mail sas upenn edu keith keller writes in article qup linnotb master cs rose hulman edu swartzjh rosevc rose hulman edu writes f king no hockey games televised nationally tonight what the hell is this why the hell is espn showing some stupid baseball game when baseball is not even three weeks into the season and hockey is in the playoffs no wait i know the answer but still it really espn had the houston astros chicago cubs game scheduled for last night on the west coast since the game was rained out they showed the toronto maple leafs at the detroit red wings game instead stan willis net contact la kings
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re s in article r on p bigboote wpi edu ching bigwpi wpi edu the logistician writes i am in need of all of the players wearing in the nhl i know now only of one ray borque for the bruins any help would be greatly appreciated paul coffey of detroit redwings bjoernar steinbakken
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re red wings goespel don t forget paul ysebaert ex devil he s a good team player michael sy mvs cec wustl edu new jersey devils
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wc results april world championships in germany group a results sweden canada st nd can geoff sanderson kevin dineen swe patrik juhlin jan larsson pp rd can geoff sanderson ps can mike gartner greg johnson adam graves can rod brind amour shayne corson shots on goal penalties attendance referee sweden min rob hearn usa canada min bill ranford stopped shots to lead canada to a victory in a very well played game the first period started with a give away from a canadian defenseman and rundqvist came in alone on ranford but couldn t put the puck over a sliding ranford later on kevin dineen had a great opportunity but soderstrom played very well too stefan nilsson had a couple of great dekes and set up jan larsson but again ranford came up big period ended scoreless but the edge to sweden in creating more opportunities second period action saw tommy soderstrom making a great save mark recchi made a backhanded cross ice pass to lindros eric one timed the puck but soderstrom was there to make a glove hand save at the minute mark canada started applying pressure on the swedes sanderson dineen brind amour worked hard and kept the puck in the swedes zone dineen gave the puck to sanderson who skated around a screened swedish defenseman came in on soderstrom and made a wrist shot that went it by soderstrom s far post canada the swedes picked up their game after that and peter forsberg had a shot that hit ranford s post the inside went parallel to the goal line and out then gartner got a penalty and the swedes a power play jan larsson took a shot from the slot ranford gave a rebound to larsson who saw juhlin by the far post passed the puck and ranford was beat third period started as the other periods swedes having most of the pressure but the canadians always dangerous once they were close to the swede goal at canada created some great chances and arto blomsten was forced to cover the puck in the swede goal crease since soderstrom lost sight of it that resulted in a penalty shot since a defenseman can t cover the puck in the goal crease geoff sanderson took the penalty shot his first ever he explained afterwards and he put it low on soderstrom s stick side close to the post excellent penalty shot to give canada a go ahead goal canada increased the lead on a very suspect offside gartner volleyed a bouncing puck past soderstrom to make it the swedes ran out of gas then and couldn t produce as good scoring chances as they had for periods the goal came with only second left rod brind amour scoring on a rebound from soderstrom where the swedish defense already had their minds in the dressing room a very good game the best in the wc so far with both goalies playing great soderstrom best player in sweden but ranford even played better than soderstrom that tells you something about ranford probably the best goalie in the world were some comments after the game canada played a very disciplined defense ranford pointed out that it is easy to play well with a good defense lindros played a lot and played well sanderson naturally game hero with two goals the forsberg naslund bergqvist line sweden s best along with larsson juhlin nilsson swedish defense played well cm kg peter popovic had the task of neutralizing cm kg eric lindros and managed this very well ranger defenseman peter andersson finally got to go to the wc and considering that he landed in germany just a few hours before the game he played very well swedish coach curt lundmark was irritated after the game partly because of the swedes inability to score and partly because of the linesman s mistake on the goal lines information follows further below italy switzerland st nd ita orlando rd penalties ita min swi min referee anton danko slovakia attendance group b results czech republic germany st nd cze kamil kastak cze jiri dolezal cze petr hrbek rd cze radek toupal cze josef beranek penalties cze min ger min min min game penalty referee darren loraas canada attendance the czechs were clearly better than the germans and the german crowd showed their discontent by throwing in stuff on the ice after a while finland usa st nd fin jarkko varvio rd usa ed olczyk penalties fin min usa min referee valeri bokarev russia attendance i hope some finns can provide information from this game i didn t see the whole game the finns took the lead on a jarkko varvio slap shot from the blue line and a soft goal for an unscreened mike richter as far as the play in the second period goes the finns seemed to have the most control so a lead was warranted as i saw it sweden canada goaltender tommy soderstrom bill ranford defense kenneth kennholt norm maciver fredrik stillman dave manson peter popovic geoff smith peter andersson brian benning arto blomsten terry carkner roger akerstrom garry galley derek mayer forwards mikael renberg dave gagner thomas rundqvist adam graves mikael andersson mike gartner markus naslund paul kariya peter forsberg eric lindros jonas bergqvist mark recchi patrik juhlin rod brind amour jan larsson shayne corson stefan nilsson kevin dineen charles berglund geoff sanderson michael nylander greg johnson andersson bergqvist brian savage kelly buchberger staffan axelsson etxonss ufsa ericsson se r s h contact for swedish hockey
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buffalo boston defense tonight in boston the buffalo sabres blanked the boston bruins tonight in boston looks like boston can hang this season up because buffalo s home record is awesome this is great buffalo fans might get to see revenge for last year delarocq eos ncsu edu afc east division champions and afc conference champions squished the fish monday night football november squished the trash talking fish afc championship january if you are a buffalo bills fan email me at delarocq eos ncsu edu so we can talk all about the games insight etc if you are a packers fan let me know i am interested in any news out of green bay
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re la on abc in canada plarsen sanjuan p allen larsen writes in article boora sfu ca boora kits sfu ca the godfather writes was the abc coverage of the kings flames game supposed to be the way it was shown in bc with cbc overriding the abc coverage when i flipped to abc it was the same commentators same commercials even my question is was this the real abc coverage or did cbc just black out the abc coverage for its own yes it s called simulcast in canada when a canadian station and an american station are showing the same thing whether a sporting event or cheers on thursday night the canadian signal is broadcast over the american station they even do this during the superbowl which has the best commercials of any television what do we get here dumb canadian commercials the same ones we ve seen for that last year or so i m in edmonton and while that s usually or at least often the case here we were treated to the actual abc telecast of the kings flames game i m with whoever said it earlier don witless er whitman is a poor commentator and not just for hockey normally if the oilers were still playing augh i would turn off the sound and listen to the radio broadcast to get decent play by play announcing bart edmonton
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re bay area media wings leafs coverage in dreier apr durban berkeley edu dreier durban berkeley edu roland dreier writes the san francisco bay area media is reporting tonight that the detroit red wings beat the toronto maple leafs can someone who is not part of the media conspiracy against the leafs tell me how the game really went i am expecting a win for the leafs shutout for potvin hat trick for andreychuk and a goal and assists for gilmour if the leafs really lost how many penalties did whichever biased ref was at the game have to call against the leafs to let the red wings win ah yes california did the san francisco bay area media report that joe montana is rumoured to be the leading candidate to replace fired san jose sharks coach george kingston apparently montana is not only coveted for his winning attitude but as a playing coach he will be expected to quarterback the powerplay good thing those walls are so soft eh rollie cordially as always maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca so many morons rm and so little time
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re nhl team captains anna matyas am x andrew cmu edu wrote michael collingridge writes and while we are on the subject has a captain ever been traded resigned or been striped of his title during the season any other team captain trivia would be appreciated wasn t ron francis captain of the whalers when he was traded to pittsburgh and rick tochett was the captain of the flyers when traded to the pens recently caleb and let us not forget that the new jersey devils traded captain kirk muller for stephen richer and chorske man i hated that trade
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re wings take game one in qvos r msuinfo cl msu edu vergolin euler lbs msu edu david vergolini writes the detroit red wings put a lot of doubter on ice tonight with a washing of the toronto maple leafs all you toronto fans have now seen the power of the mighty red wing offense toronto s defense in no match for the wing offense as for the defense probert kennedey and primeau came out did they move probert back to defense why did i see him parking his ass in front of potvin all night somebody is going to have to discipline probert if the leafs want to win the series perhaps a fresh clark should hit the ice at the end of a long probert shift and straigten him out for a while cordially as always maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca so many morons rm and so little time
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re wc results april dstein oak math ucla edu david stein writes what s going on the russians and the czechs are unable to beat easy opponents and the swedes beat austria only it s the opening game effect maybe pros arrive late nervousness for rookie wc players and problems to get the lines clicking may make things hard to get it going against these worse nations i d guess that the better team you face in the opening game the better it is since the chances of an upset are greater then some other reasons why the worse teams are so tough to beat was presented by hans virus lindberg former coach in switzerland the worse teams referring to france switzerland austria italy etc have now usually world class goalies their defensive play have become much more disciplined they take much less unnecessary penalties they use four lines which makes it harder to make them run out of gas the ice quality in the german wc rinks is poor the only convincing winner was germany wierd another weird thing was that the czechs played entertaining hockey err just kidding david p s alex i would like to see the czech roster including if possible the clubs from which the players come how many are finnish german or swiss alex that s a new name for me ok i forgot the czech roster at home yesterday but now i have it i don t know the teams for all players so i would appreciate if you guys could fill in the blanks for me especially i think some of these players play in finland the czech republic goaltenders petr briza finland somewhere right roman turek motor c budejovice defense leo gudas milos holan tj vitkovice drahomir kadlec bedrich scerban brynas sweden antonin stavjana hv sweden miroslav horava modo sweden ales flasar tj vitkovice forwards petr rosol kamil kastak hv sweden richard zemlicka jiri kucera jan caloun hc litvinov petr hrbek tomas kapusta otakar janecky finland roman horak motor c budejovice martin hostak modo sweden radek toupal jiri dolezal staffan staffan axelsson etxonss ufsa ericsson se r s h contact for swedish hockey
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hockey the hispanic community relying on canadian tourists and transplanted northeasterners to support a team in miami is crazy espaecially when you have really deserving cities without a team such as san diego milwaukee i wish the panthers or whatever their name is well but if they can t sell to hispanics they re in deep doo doo already there are rumors that tampa may move to milwaukee
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abc coverage i loved the abc coverage the production was excellent the appearance was excellent it had a sleek modern look this was the first time i heard thorne clement i thought they were great my only request is to leave al micheals out of this he annoys me i m hoping this leads to a regular season contract my guess would be is that it will be roughly a weekly game from feb april and then the playoffs i envy you canadians with your tsn cbc maybe i ll get a dish to pick up canadian tv how much are those things btw
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nhl summary parse results for games played sun april new jersey pittsburgh first period pittsburgh tocchet stevens lemieux pp new jersey barr guerin holik pittsburgh lemieux jagr ramsey second period pittsburgh lemieux stevens murphy pp pittsburgh francis ramsey mullen pittsburgh tippett jagr mceachern third period pittsburgh jagr samuelsson lemieux pp new jersey stevens niedermayer driver pp new jersey stevens semak niedermayer pittsburgh power play scorer g a pts francis jagr lemieux mceachern mullen murphy ramsey samuelsson stevens tippett tocchet new jersey power play scorer g a pts barr driver guerin holik niedermayer semak stevens st louis chicago first period chicago noonan larmer brown second period st louis brown shanahan emerson chicago noonan roenick chelios pp chicago noonan matteau sutter st louis felsner mcrae janney third period st louis shanahan brown hull pp st louis hull emerson brown pp st louis power play scorer g a pts brown emerson felsner hull janney mcrae shanahan chicago power play scorer g a pts brown chelios larmer matteau noonan roenick sutter los angeles calgary first period los angeles sydor gretzky sandstrom second period calgary suter fleury sh los angeles carson shuchuk sydor pp los angeles huddy taylor rychel los angeles mcsorley unassisted third period los angeles millen granato donnelly calgary dahlquist otto calgary yawney macinnis reichel los angeles carson sandstrom robitaille pp los angeles power play scorer g a pts carson donnelly granato gretzky huddy mcsorley millen robitaille rychel sandstrom shuchuk sydor taylor calgary power play special goals sh total scorer g a pts dahlquist fleury macinnis otto reichel suter yawney first period ny islanders ferraro flatley vaske second period no scoring third period washington hunter elynuik krygier washington hunter khristich johansson pp washington khristich pivonka johansson pp washington power play scorer g a pts elynuik hunter johansson khristich krygier pivonka ny islanders power play scorer g a pts ferraro flatley vaske buffalo boston first period buffalo hannan unassisted buffalo lafontaine mogilny second period boston juneau neely oates pp boston neely oates juneau buffalo mogilny hawerchuk smehlik third period buffalo mogilny unassisted boston neely juneau oates boston heinze juneau overtime buffalo sweeney khmylev smehlik buffalo power play scorer g a pts hannan hawerchuk khmylev lafontaine mogilny smehlik sweeney boston power play scorer g a pts heinze juneau neely oates montreal quebec first period montreal dionne dipietro brunet second period montreal bellows muller desjardins third period quebec rucinsky lapointe sundin pp quebec sakic lapointe overtime quebec young ricci duchesne quebec power play scorer g a pts duchesne lapointe ricci rucinsky sakic sundin young montreal power play scorer g a pts bellows brunet desjardins dionne dipietro muller
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college hockey all star roster could someone please post the rosters for the college hockey all star game east and west rosters thanks in advance
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re wc results april in article apr ericsson se etxonss ufsa ericsson se staffan axelsson writes ok i forgot the czech roster at home yesterday but now i have it i don t know the teams for all players so i would appreciate if you guys could fill in the blanks for me especially i think some of these players play in finland the czech republic goaltenders petr briza finland somewhere right signed contract for ev landshut germany for the season defense leo gudas ec hedos muenchen germany since holger s i e m e n s holger ohlwein ap otto hahn ring muenchen tel email holger ohlwein ap mchp sni de n i x d o r f never put off till tomorrow what you can avoid all together
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request for list of boston univ players in nhl being a proud bu alumnus i d like to get a list of bu players in the nhl so i can keep an eye on their progress a lot of terriers are graduating this year so i hope to see them soon in the nhl if somebody could post or send me a list i d appreciate it please note if the player graduated from here or not
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sharks kingston fired i just overheard that san jose coach george kingston was officially terminated today maybe good news maybe bad i kinda liked him but he seemed to lack a certain fire bill gibson gibson bill applelink apple com chief technical sponge applelink gibson bill apple computer inc just say sharks
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detroit toronto what s the deal c s h has nothing on it yet is it in ot is it over what i want to know we all want to know where s roger when you need him keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs a cow is not a vegetarian dish keith keller
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re goalie mask poll in article hydra gatech edu gtd a prism gatech edu hrivnak writes current votes for favorite goalie masks pts st pts nd pt rd others receiving less than pts mike vernon cal clint glenn healy nyi toy espo gilles gratton is this tony esposito if memory serves me correctly chicago god i hope i am right otherwise i will never hear the end of it keith keller let s go rangers let s go quakers kkeller mail sas upenn edu ivy league champs a cow is not a vegetarian dish keith keller
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final season chl stuff here are the final stats for the chl for the season central hockey league s memorial drive suite tulsa ok phone fax founder and president ray miron commissioner monte miron marketing director jim goodman information director eric kolb each team is owned by the league with local intrests controlling day to day operations working agreements and nhl affiliations are up to each team each team has a salary cap for total players dress up each team is limited to visas meaning at least players must be americans ignore this rule if you are tulsa they only had americans on the roster during the playoffs teams play in wichita tulsa oklahoma city memphis fort worth and dallas future expansion plans include houston san antonio baton rouge little rock el paso albuquerque tuscon and amarillo austin is a possibility if dallas has to move houston and san antonio are in for this fall with baton rouge and little rock likely for teams fort worth fire wichita thunder arena tarrant co conv cen kansas coliseum colors red and black blue silver and black gm george branum bill shuck coach pete mahavolich doug sheddan phone fire season tix single tix radio announcers dallas freeze tulsa oilers arena fair park coliseum civic center colors teal and black orange and blue gm tom koch jeff d lund coach ron flockhart gary unger personal guardians phone puck season tix ray and monte single tix miron radio ksky am ktrt am announcers bruce levine jeff brucculeri mark stone jeff bowen memphis river kings oklahoma city blazers arena mid south coliseum myriad state fair arena colors gold and black red yellow and black gm jim riggs brad lund coach steve carlson mike mcewen phone puck season tix single tix radio krec am wwls am announcers dave woloshin john brooks tom stocker brian barnhart regular season standings w l otl pts gf ga pim avg attdnce cap oklahoma city blazers tulsa ice oilers dallas freeze memphis riverkings fort worth fire wichita thunder playoffs tulsa defeated dallas games to wllwwlw oklahoma city defeated memphis games to wwllww levin trophy finals tulsa defeated oklahoma city games to wwlww playoff mvp tony fiore tulsa special votes to ray and monte miron team vs team dallas fort worth memphis oklahoma city tulsa wichita dallas fort worth memphis oklahoma city tulsa wichita power play statistics penalty killng statistics ppg opp shga pct ppg saves opp shg pct okla city okla city tulsa dallas dallas tulsa fort worth wichita wichita memphis memphis fort worth penalty record min game gross oppn pim avg minor major bench misc misc misc match pim wichita fort worth memphis dallas okla city tulsa scoring by period st period nd period rd period overtime shootout totals gf ga gf ga gf ga gf ga gf ga gf ga dallas fort worth memphis okla city tulsa wichita all star team position first team second team goaltender tony martino tulsa robert desjardins wichita tie alan perry oklahoma city tie defensemen dave doucette dallas mike berger dallas guy girouard oklahoma city tom karalis tulsa center carl boudreau oklahoma city joe burton oklahoma city left wing sylvain fleury oklahoma city doug lawrence tulsa right wing daniel larin oklahoma city tom mutch memphis tie sylvain naud tulsa tie regular season mvp sylvain fleury oklahoma city rookie of the year bobby desjardins wichita leading defenseman dave doucette dallas leading goaltender tony martino tulsa scoring leaders points team gp g a pts goals team gp g fleury sylvain okc fleury sylvain okc lawrence doug tul larin daniel okc naud sylvain tul mutch tom mem mutch tom mem thibodeau ken mem hall taylor tul naud sylvain tul thibodeau ken mem taylor jason dal anchikoski wayne dal boudreau carl okc assists team gp a larin daniel okc lawrence doug tul taylor jason dal fleury sylvain okc dent ted wch naud sylvain tul sanderson mike ftw doucette dave dal gatti dave wch hall taylor tul nobili mario tul girouard guy okc cyr keith wch d amario peter mem penalty minutes team gp pim johnston scot mem aubrey ron ftw burton joe okc karalis tom tul simoni steve okc johnson craig okc hornak ernest ftw neish greg wch fiore tony tul batten john mem doucette dave dal taylor jason dal leading goaltenders or more games team gpi min gaa w l otl en so ga saves save pct martino tony tul perry alan okc zanier mike dal mindjimba antoine mem smith greg dal desjardins bobby wch belley roch ftw other goalies team gpi min gaa w l otl en so ga saves save pct flatt brian tul krake paul okc loewen jamie tul ocello matt ftw ocello matt tul totals raymond eric tul o hara michael ftw vasko steve mem trentadue rocco ftw trentadue rocco okc totals harvey alain wch gosselin yannick wch gosselin yannick okc totals caton murray wch mcdonnell dan tul sauer e j tul clark joel wch wachter steve wch marc dee foster r s h contact for the chl
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more tv info united states coverage sunday april n j n y i at pittsburgh edt to eastern time zone abc gary thorne and bill clement st louis at chicago cdt and mdt to central mountain zones abc mike emerick and jim schoenfeld los angeles at calgary pdt and adt to pacific alaskan zones abc al michaels and john davidson tuesday april n j n y i at pittsburgh edt nationwide espn gary thorne and bill clement thursday april and saturday april to be announced edt nationwide espn to be announced canadian coverage sunday april buffalo at boston edt nationwide tsn tuesday april n j d n y at pittsburgh edt nationwide tsn wednesday april st louis at chicago edt nationwide tsn
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octopus in detroit i was watching the detroit minnesota game last night and thought i saw an octopus on the ice after ysebaert scored to tie the game at two what gives is there some custom to throw octopuses on the ice in detroit not responsible dain bramaged harold zazula dlmqc cunyvm cuny edu hzazula alehouse acc qc edu
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re flyers re this year s biggest and worst opinion in article apr cbnewsh cb att com seth cbnewsh cb att com peter r clark jr writes so in other words if roussel shuts out the sharks and soderstrom shuts out the penguins that s immaterial because it was the coaches decision come on joe think about what you re saying who they played is very significant why they played them is what s irrelevent a low gaa against good teams is better than a low gaa against bad teams in the context of comparing two goaltenders a low gaa is better then a higher gaa a low gaa against good teams is much much better than a higher gaa against bad teams in the context of comparing two goaltenders let s start over i m not arguing about who is the better goaltender i d take soderstrom right now what i am saying is that roussel can be a netminder the gaa difference is less than half a goal per game less than that after last night their save percentages are close and their records are similar and with that i just don t see how you can label roussel as the most disappointing player on the flyers this season you say soderstrom played against better competition that may very well be but there is no way of knowing how roussel would have performed in those games besides against the better scoring teams like pittsburgh the defense is more keyed up than they are against san jose the same for roussel in the ranger game two real scoring chances one he made a great play the other he was saved by a mistake from the other player if you were judging roussel on that game alone you have very little to go by but i m not just judging roussel on that game alone i ve seen him play for the past two seasons in philly and before that in hershey it s just my opinion but i think he s got what it takes of course i thought that about mark laforest too but i never did about wendell young so i m batting in judging hershey talent since the hextall era as for the rangers game you can say he was saved by a mistake by the offensive player if you like but rou had his leg in position to make the save if he didn t it wouldn t have mattered if the rangers player didn t get the puck up or not it would have been a goal on a breakaway that s what the goalie wants to do take away as much as possible and force the shooter to beat him but if you were to look at the tie against the habs you saw a goalie stand on his head to get that shutout that was a goalie in action roussel doesn t have a game like that in him i seem to remember roussel doing an excellent job against pittsurgh on opening night to give the flyers a tie against the two time defending champs and not to take anything away from soderstrom because he was senational in that game agains the habs but you can t tell me that a montreal player had an open net to shoot at some point during that game and just flat out missed it mistakes both on offense and defense are part of the game or there d never be shutouts anyway i m happy the flyers have both soderstrom and roussel and i m not going to argue about it anymore besides with the current game winning streak and expectations soaring for next year i don t want to piss you off to the point that you don t sell me any tickets next season joe dakes at t microelectronics union boulevard allentown pa let s go flyers alux jmd jmd aluxpo att com
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re goalie masks tom barrasso wore a great mask one time last season he unveiled it at a game in boston it was all black with pgh city scenes on it the golden triangle pgh s downtown area where the rivers meet graced the top along with a steel mill on one side and the civic arena i think on the other on the back of the helmet was the old pens logo the really fat little penguin with the blue scarf the current at the time pens logo and a space for the new now current logo tommy had designed the mask and his mother an artist painted it for him but while wearing the mask the pens got thumped by the bruins the very next game tommy was back to the old paint job a great mask done in by a goalie s superstition lori
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re pens info needed in article apr jyu fi mikkot romulus math jyu fi mikko tarkiainen writes coaching news alpo suhonen ex jets to jokerit now verified boris majorov ex jokerit to tappara vasili tichonov ex assat to san jose sharks assistant coach sakari pietila to lulea silver team in elite serien wow so that s probably the reason why current assistant coach drew ramenda hinted that he won t be back thanks for the news mikko can you or any of our finnish netters comment on tichonov go calgary flames al macinnis for norris gary roberts for hart and smythe go edmonton oilers go for playoffs next year stay in edmonton nelson lu claudius leland stanford edu rec sport hockey contact for the san jose sharks
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re octopus in detroit in article dlmqc cunyvm bitnet harold zazula dlmqc cunyvm bitnet writes i was watching the detroit minnesota game last night and thought i saw an octopus on the ice after ysebaert scored to tie the game at two what gives no no no it s a squid keep the tradition alive kinda like the fish at unh games is there some custom to throw octopuses on the ice in detroit not responsible dain bramaged harold zazula dlmqc cunyvm cuny edu hzazula alehouse acc qc edu
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re tv schedule for next week in article apr yuma acns colostate edu mmb lamar colostate edu michael burger writes united states tv schedule april devils islanders at pittsburgh est abc to eastern time zone april st louis at chicago cdt abc to cent mou time zones april los angeles at calgary pdt abc to pacific time zone april devils islanders at pittsburgh espn april tba espn april tba espn a little supplement basic mike s info for sundday s opener on abc these are the announcing crews devils isles at pittsburgh gary thorne play by play bill clement color and al morganti roaming the halls outside the dressing rooms this telecast will primarily seen on the east coast st louis at chicago mike emrick play by play jim schoendfeld color and tom mees roaming the halls this telecast will primarily be seen in the midwest and parts of the south la at calgary al do you believe in mircales michaels play by play john davidson color and mark jones as a roaming reporter this telecast will be seen in the western usa montreal s naitive jon saunders will be hosting in the studio abc will do up and close and personal with mario during saturday s wide world of sports edt sunday will be the first nhl playoff or regular network telecast in years not counting those silly all star games on nbc for the last few years for sunday s games abc will use mikes behind on the goal super super slo mo close ups of player s faces at face offs espn abc will not be able to use its new favorite toy the ice level shot in pittsburgh where too many seats would have to removed to employ it in case of a blowout in progress in pittsburgh abc will switch to chicago game but will come back to the pittsburgh game for updates or if the game gets closer ha abc expects huge ratings by hockey standards since all top us tv markets are involved ny metro area ny islanders nj devils chicago blackhawks and la kings stay tuned thanks mike ppv mark
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rumour keenan signs with rangers upi clarinet has just relayed a scoop from the toronto sun or was that star i like the star myself that iron mike keenan has come to an agreement with the new york rangers for next season interestingly this comes the day after the times sports had an editorial about how the rangers need their own pat riley who cares about what happens after next season gld je me souviens gary l dare gld columbia edu go winnipeg jets go gld cunixc bitnet selanne domi stanley
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