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There's not much consistency here. * preferred Bernie Sanders over Clinton or Trump. * endorsed other right wing politicians such as Marine Le Pen Very nuanced. Much BernieBroery.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Under the French system Trump would've lost. Le Pen will make it to the second round, but the chance of her winning that is slim.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
While I agree with your analysis, let's be honest, Le Pen's disdain for the EU is based on nationalism rather than advocacy of fairness and equality. They both want to change or leave the EU for very different reasons.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Care,Equality	Confident
Usually yes but the fact is that Macron got elected because people didn't want to vote for Le Pen, so the assembly is probably going to be extremely devided this time around	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Somewhat Confident
I'm still waiting for examples of Le Pen engaging in anti semitic speech, action, or politic. Surely you have some.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Equality	Confident
Melenchon's alright. I don't hate him. I'd say that socialism is misguided, whereas fascism is straight up malicious.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
To the vast majority of Europeans? Very disturbing crypto-fascists, basically. Maybe Le Pen voters might like them, but even UKIP in the UK isn't as far right as the Republicans.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Well, you see, the wonderful thing about being a neoliberal is that you're wedded to policy, not human beings. If he implements the policies he says he is, and things don't work out, we can talk about why they failed, but Macron failing isn't in itself something we would be surprised about if he doesn't follow through.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Dude she would need to climb 25 points and the police shooting the other day hardly even budged her numbers. Macron is going to walk this.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
They do hack people and countries, but that's not what this really is. It's social engineering, and they figured out they could pay people pennies to post bullshit on the internet and eventually people would believe it.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
"Because maybe Macron will be forced into cohabitation with Le Pen's nationalists!" is what I'm seeing them say. There's still an election to come to determine the rest of the government, and the seats could be taken up by factions not friendly to Macron, which means he could end up with a PM (who determines the cabinet) not friendly to him. While Cohabitation is certainly a possibility, the likelihood it happens in a way that favors Le Pen seems no more likely than her securing the presidency did.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Equality	Confident
From the reporting I've heard Macron seems to be slightly to the left, so I'd imagine he'd do better against Melenchon, since Macron have 50% of the French on his right. But he's leading something like 65-35 against Le Pen, so he's still doing pretty well against her, even if he's battling for the median voter	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
The center right in France is endorsing Macron, in the US they didn't endorse Clinton and most backed Trump. They deserve more scorn than Bernie.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
I can imagine this is what's pushing EU members towards an EU standing army, was it Hollande that proposed that?	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
This is undoubtedly a provocative title. However, unless Macron instigates complete reform of the eurozone, from an economic and financial perspective this advert title is much more accurate than a lot of the content that is posted here.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
> ~~Slandering~~ Accurately naming candidates you disagree with as "fascists" is a significant reason as to why they garner such support I guess that explains all the Nazis voting for trump and Le Pen then.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Bernie: "Open borders are a right wing proposal" Macron: Very pro common market.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
I can give you this, Hillary, it is a Victory for Macron and the EU. But it is not a victory for France.	Conservative	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
Le pen will make it past the first round but I doubt she'll do better than that. It looks like Macron is going to win but anything can happen.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
Should have used Le Pencil instead. You can erase your mistakes.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Somewhat Confident
Tragedy of Hamon in this campaign, tbh. He sincerely can't ask loyalty from anyone in his party.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
You can do all the mental gymnastics you want to try to say donnie boy isn't supporting le pen, it still won't make it true.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
Like Clinton or Macron want to sell their country to the elite by promoting "diversity" ? It's just easier for liberals to have an enemy like Russia so the elite can unite them against big bad Russia and rob them of their country's culture and wealth .	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
I'll stick around, it's not like Le Pen being in charge will stop me enjoying the French food and weather.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
I just can't understand how some voters in the west can't see why Russia wants these far right lunatics in power. The ignorance of le pen, trump and brexit voters is inexcusable.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Everyone voted for trump thinking he wouldn't be that bad. He hasn't even elected any state officials yet. No wall. Self proclaimed globalist. Hires an advisor who actively says he's trying to burn the government down. Spends most of his time transferring money to his private businesses and staying at them to force America to pay for his security. Le Pen happily allies herself with Trump and Putin. Same thing, buddy. She'll loot the country and do none of what she's promising. Don't tell people to commit suicide.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Politicians supporting him doesn't mean they are in his party. Fillon just declared support for Macron.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
> Depends what happens with France really. What do you expect to happen? Either Fillon or Macron will be elected. Macron is most likely, leading the polls for both the first and the second round of the French elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-idUSKBN16Z0H1 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-idUSKBN16W048 He is the candidate for and founder of the following party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_Marche! >Ideology: >Social liberalism >Pro-Europeanism >Third Way >Progressivism >Economic liberalism	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Somewhat Confident
Is that enshrined in the UN charter? Nope. Also, it hardly shows that the UN will protect rights like free speech when Le Pen is being prosecuted for tweeting a photograph of ISIS beheadings in response to claims that they are the good guys.	Conservative	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
Le Pen being elected is exactly what they want. That's why they're doing this now. They know she's opposed to Western values, just like they are, and will generate more conflict within France than they could ever achieve on their own.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Somewhat Confident
Maybe, just maybe you people should start electing leaders to secure your borders and halt the flow of immigrants into you country from people who want to kill you. You're not going to do that though, your going to keep electing spineless weasels like Macron who embrace this type of thing with open arms.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Goddamn, this is what a leader of the free world looks like. It makes me sad to realize we are no longer a shining city on the hill for the world to follow. It appears a Franco-German Europe is now our world's future hope. Charlemacron/merkel all the way.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
But even if le pen got into power its not like she will deport muslims, the policies she has would not radicalise nearly enough muslims.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Somewhat Confident
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ mr macron TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
I have to agree. There's a very short interval between the two rounds, so Fillon won't be able to do a U-turn and convince the left. Le Pen might be better prepared for that. Plus, most of the French left is probably uncertain on which poison to pick in the F-LP scenario. Large amounts of disappointed, uncertain voters is what got Trump in power. At least there won't be the "polls say that he's going to win, so it will be safe to stay home" effect. France has banned opinion polls near the election.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
They do in theory, but with very different approaches. When Le Pen blames Europe and immigration for all the wrongs of the world, Mélenchon blames white-collar criminals and the oligarchy. And Europe. They do have some views in common, but Mélenchon is very open to immigration, and against the "France to French" ideology that le pen loves and push so much. You can see why they're not compatible ...	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
This has always been a welcome by-product of the migration wave. Same thing with UK's creeping Big brother or Macron trying to give himself permanent emergency powers. Long live our glorious know-better overlords! I'm sure this sub will keep defending them to death tho.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
France has a law Le Pen apparently broke. MEPs decided to revoke her immunity as to not attack French sovereignty. I see no issue with the MEPs decision. You may consider the French law to be bad, but that's up to the people of France to decide and also not what the MEPs voted on.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
au contraire, isn't Le Pen the person who says NOT to intervene against the islamic state? That way they win =)	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Somewhat Confident
Most French pollsters are saying she will win the first round- that's given. But lose it all in second round. Something apocalyptic will have to happen between now and election day, for Marine Le Pen to have a chance. Maybe more terrorist attacks in France.. PS: Am sorry, I had to use terrorism as an example to put my point across.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Fillon is out, not an option anymore. Sucks, but he sunk himself with his nepotism and he has nobody to blame but himself.	Conservative	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
They've filled the sub with "Thanks! I voted Le Pen!!" And even have French flairs lol	europe	French politics	annotator04	Loyalty	Somewhat Confident
* 450/280 = 1.61 * Macron did 60% better than Hollande * 100% - 60% = 40% * Obtaining 40% of the vote is an astonishing victory. * Therefore a 60% increase is trivial.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
So more Macron memes. Got it. But thanks for the insight!	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Non-Moral	null
I am not saying it is the only way, but that is what Melenchon and his followers proposed. And I dissagree, how is capitalism unethical?	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
>BLA BLA BLA BLA In the article: >Ms Le Pen, a member of the European parliament, is under investigation in France for posting three graphic images of Isis executions on Twitter in 2015, including the beheading of the United States journalist James Foley. Once again, when did TWITTER become the European parliament? And is Marine Le Pen carrying out her duties as an MEP on TWITTER and not in the parliament?	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
I didn't hear anybody calling Le Pen anything sexist...fascist maybe... Macron meanwhile took no end of sexist insults.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Care,Equality	Confident
I like Macron. He's an independent trying to pluralize French politics and he leans to the right on economic reforms, which 🇫🇷 desperately needs. I wonder what he looks like shirtless. I couldn't find any bare-chested pictures on Bing.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
>What makes you think that EU supporters don't think there's anything wrong with the EU? I don't. Macron knows there is no possibility of reforms.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
You're right I don't actually care if he was the current leader or honorary leader or anything, his past doesn't bother me and I still support Le Pen	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Loyalty,Authority	Confident
So Fillon is getting punished for corruption, but Le Pen is not.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Equality	Confident
It is important to note that AfD have been losing their voting share, and that in Germany the two main candidates are both European Federalists: Merkel and Schulz. In France Macron has been gaining a larger and larger lead over Fillon, and vs Le Pen in the second round looks to win by about 20%. Furthermore Wilders is not even polling first anymore, and nobody will form a coalition with him anyway. While certain sources are biased, in particular Anglophone sources, the reality is that anti-EU sentiment is not actually that high across the continent.	geopolitics	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Equality	Confident
and their melonhead leader effectively equating macron with lepen. disgusting.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Purity,Proportionality,Equality	Confident
I think everyone realizes some kind of political union is necessary if we want fiscal integration. Macron proposes to create a european minister of finance btw. He's completely willing to give up some sovereignty.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Confident
You know what's funny. I think the biggest thing that will save France from The Donald propaganda is language. None of them understand French, or even French culture or politics. They don't know how to even frame Macron in a bad light. For example, they tried to push that he is gay, and when that didn't work, they try to attack his marriage. It's sad.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
I think it's about positive campaing. Macron also ran one. Just "not vote for the other guy" as Clinton's campaign did was wrong. We need Obama's 2008 style of campaign.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Confident
The question in all of this is in what shape will the FN be in by 2022. I don't think it's a guarantee that Marine Le Pen or someone else connected to the FN will be macron or melenchon's main challenger in 2022. Potential infighting after the landslide election loss between the different factions of the FN could significantly damage the FN.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
If her supporters hate being subservient to the EU so much, why are they so tolerant of Le Pen being subservient to Putin? I just don't get it. Even if you don't like the EU surely logic dictates that it's better to be a powerful EU member than a Russian lackey.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
Exactly! Complacency is the worst enemy of people who are against Le Pen (and similar political movements).	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
What a compelling argument! I see now why Le Pen is literally evil incarnate. Thanks for the very constructive debate	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Well, I didn't like Le Pen either (I'm an American, not French, so I didn't have a say anyway).	Conservative	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Le Pen will win because she's not Globalism scum and some people in Europe are waking up. Nationalism will prevail.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Francois Fillon has recently been hit with allegation of corruption that have shaken his race to the Presidency in 2017..	geopolitics	French politics	annotator04	Non-Moral	Somewhat Confident
Populism has been growing in momentum around the world. First with the Brexit vote in the UK , then with the American election of Donald Trump and now Marine Le Pen rising to the top of political sentiment in France. Only weeks away from the French Election taking place at the end of April this reports looks at Marine le Pen's policies and how they could affect the whole of Europe.	geopolitics	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Under Le Pen terrorism would get worse as there would be an added far-left terrorism component. There would also be rioting as antifa and facist groups confront each others.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Just a bad article. "Macron is pro-business. Also... OK that's it that's the article." Like it's not hard to make Macron look bad to Bernie types, he really is a centrist. He does actually want to institute liberal reforms they wouldn't like. Just open up his platform and start quoting it! Why be lazy?	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
There are at least as many articles worrying abut le pen as there are dismissing her, dont misrepresent things.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
FDP is more classical liberal though, D66 and Macron/EM are more social liberal	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
Bernie's position is closer to Macron than Melenchon. The comparisons you make are not even close. Europe knew that US republicans had no knowledge of European politics (calling moderate parties communist), and the US democrats have proven it too (failing to understand the values of the left). The European left/centre is appalled of your virtue signalling 'democrat' party. Melenchon views are completely at odds with Bernie Sanders. Melenchon wants the left (social democracy) to die.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
No, I did not. Take your Alt-truth elsewhere:) This tactic is transparent as hell. Also, how stupid do you have to be to vote for Le pen? She's bought by a foreign state. Meanwhile, that same state has only 'he's gay!' as attack against Macron.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
to be fair, reuters was just quoting what the macron campaign said.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
Maybe Le Penn wouldn't be winning if this claim was true.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Somewhat Confident
>Because you probably lived in a rich part of town Nah, Patterson Park. My classes were out of the hospital in the downtown. :\^) There goes that talking point lol >Funny how the French who live in areas with high Muslim population overwhelmingly voted Le pen, huh? This isn't even vaguely true. The only people that went for Le Pen were the rural hicks. Paris overwhelmingly went for Macron. hashtag alternative facts	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Somewhat Confident
Sure that may be true, but it also means that rumors and outright lies will be able to be propagated on the internet with ZERO fact checking and zero challenges. All the while the right wing can use the "look how the media refuses to cover this" as "evidence" of some kind of foul play. Macron himself has no ability to even defend himself under French law... Thus, I see the need to effectively 'clog the pipes' of French social media as a means of creating resistance to their propaganda. It's worth a try...	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
5 years ain't shit at my age, man. I remember returning to Poland in 2010 after 20+ years of, well, not being in Poland and here we are with a Trump presidency and a potential Le Pen in the French president's office in 2017. I am a bit of a pessimist and I think we'll get the Chinese curse within the next 5 years.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Actually this is the thing that triggers me the most. Even if Trump gets impeached, Le pen and the other right-wing puppets lose... Putin is like: 'Well, what ever, was a nice and fun try. What's next?'	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Additionally, the slides in the first link actually made some very good points and suggestions. Bolstered my support for Macron if anything.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Confident
> Someone like macron, swedish or other democratic leaders would never be banned from publicly speaking in Germany. So it kinda goes against basic german rights. No, it doesn't. A foreign politician addressing his expats in Germany is not a right. It's a privilege granted at the governments discretion. Germany is under no obligation to grant privileges to everyone.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Equality	Confident
Wilders' party didn't even win a plurality in the Netherlands (they gained 5 seats), and it would take a miracle for Le Pen to pull out a win after underperforming polling in the first round that was already pegging her at only 35~40% for the second round.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
> which is completly ridiculous. Let's say that crime against humanity is actually an incrimination defined by the Rome Statute and punished by the International Criminal Court, so if you make such bold claim you should prepare to have it challenged and be ready to substantiate it clearly. Which he didn't. (I'm a Macron supporter, but this was obviously bullshit).	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Care,Equality	Confident
France is well liked in these parts anyways just keep le pen in her box and all will be grand! :)	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
There is no conservative. There are two declining main parties with Fillon (liberal economist, catholic traditionalism) and Hamon (strong left, keynesian/regulated economy + universal income...) and two candidates who each represents a social model. Le Pen is sovereinist and protectionist and Macron (independent) is globalist and backing free trade. All parties agree on climate change, gay rights (bar FN. Mlp said she Would change the law on marriage back). The main topics are unemployment, immigration, social security...	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Care,Equality	Confident
> Isn't stealing and lying inherent to socialism? TIL Fillon is a socialist.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
YEAH MAN LE PEN IS A PERFECTLY SANE INDIVIDUAL WHOMST'VE'DVE'D SUPPORTS PERFECTLY SANE POLICIES AND WLL DRAIN THE EU SWAMP	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Sorry about that. Was trying to make a point about the comment I was replying to (which was very much the same sort of "use a question structure to force an assertion down your throat" structure, and about Macron supposedly being sexually abused as a child), and probably took it too far when I did so.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Care,Equality	Confident
So Le Pen is just anti-EU for its own sake? She's not anti-EU because the EU conflicts with what she believes is in the best interests of France? She opposes the EU like many do because she has a patriotic vision of an independent, self-determining France. She does not want to live in a united states of Europe with ever centralised power in fewer and fewer hands. She is anti-EU precisely because she's a patriot. You cannot be pro-EU and and patriot because the EU is a supranational institution, it wants to do away with the nation state.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Confident
I heard an interview with a young Le Pen supporter who honestly said she thought that she would be forced to wear a hijab in five years if Macron won. Moron. We all know it's three.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
You literally tried to tie whether or not Le Pen is an actual fascist to my ability to defend the claim. Whether or not I can defend it is irrelevant to whether it's true. This is a pretty fundamental truth of the universe. My mother tells me I'm a special little boy. But even she doesn't think that I'm so special as to have the facts of the universe hinge on my ability to describe them. That shit is just crazy.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Well, Merkel and Macron want to sanction Poland for not accepting enough Muslim refugees. That's doing something! /s	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Well, to be fair, that's apparently what Melenchon is doing.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Equality	Confident
Update: Banned from that sub for pointing out that when someone wanted sympathy for Le Pen voters that the sub was notorious for not offering it to Clinton supporters. so...	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
French PS (center left) head resigns. Adieu Camba. Also Le Pen won. She's a MP :/	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
If George Soros fought against the Iraq war and others like it then he's based. However as a former Alt-right supporter as of 3 days ago I am still anti-EU and supported Maria Le Pen for that reason so I can't support Soros too much.	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Confident
>Look at Greece, currently thinking of dropping out of the EU Source? >Look at France with Le Pen... Currently the top polling French candidate going into the election, and she is extremely anti-EU. With a whole 25% support. It's opponents are: Fillon (22%), Macron (21%), Hamon (15%), and some other minor left wing candidates.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Somewhat Confident
Meh, I'm wouldn't be so sure. I don't think hardly any left voters will go vote Fillon in case of Le pen v Fillon.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality,Loyalty	Confident
They are also poles apart from the branch of nationalism and fascism that Le Pen promotes.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
Abstentions rates will be a big factor in this election: most of Macron's supporters on the second round did not vote for him on the first... They are only motivated by their dislike for Le Pen: they have no love for Macron. This 10-20 points margin is made of unconvinced people, forced into a vote they dont like by a broken electoral system. Should they come to believe that Le Pen has no chance of getting elected, they might choose to stay home on election day or cast a "protest" ballot. And that could very well lead to surprising result.	worldnews	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident
You definitely need to learn more about economics then. There's a huge difference between Mélenchon (eco-communist), Hamon (eco-socdem), Macron (social liberal), Fillon (traditionnalist conservative) and Le Pen (protectionnism and nationalism)	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
Macron is a lot closer to the right-wing than to the far-left. You're either trolling or you have no idea what you're talking about.	europe	French politics	annotator04	Proportionality	Confident
Arab man records himself illegally swiping all the Le Pen ballots on offer at his polling station in suburban Paris so no one can vote for her https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c6b_1494277529	neoliberal	French politics	annotator04	Thin Morality	Confident

There's not much consistency here. * preferred Bernie Sanders over Clinton or Trump. * endorsed other right wing politicians such as Marine Le Pen Very nuanced. Much BernieBroery.

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Under the French system Trump would've lost. Le Pen will make it to the second round, but the chance of her winning that is slim.

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While I agree with your analysis, let's be honest, Le Pen's disdain for the EU is based on nationalism rather than advocacy of fairness and equality. They both want to change or leave the EU for very different reasons.

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Usually yes but the fact is that Macron got elected because people didn't want to vote for Le Pen, so the assembly is probably going to be extremely devided this time around

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I'm still waiting for examples of Le Pen engaging in anti semitic speech, action, or politic. Surely you have some.

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Melenchon's alright. I don't hate him. I'd say that socialism is misguided, whereas fascism is straight up malicious.

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To the vast majority of Europeans? Very disturbing crypto-fascists, basically. Maybe Le Pen voters might like them, but even UKIP in the UK isn't as far right as the Republicans.

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Well, you see, the wonderful thing about being a neoliberal is that you're wedded to policy, not human beings. If he implements the policies he says he is, and things don't work out, we can talk about why they failed, but Macron failing isn't in itself something we would be surprised about if he doesn't follow through.

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Dude she would need to climb 25 points and the police shooting the other day hardly even budged her numbers. Macron is going to walk this.

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They do hack people and countries, but that's not what this really is. It's social engineering, and they figured out they could pay people pennies to post bullshit on the internet and eventually people would believe it.

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"Because maybe Macron will be forced into cohabitation with Le Pen's nationalists!" is what I'm seeing them say. There's still an election to come to determine the rest of the government, and the seats could be taken up by factions not friendly to Macron, which means he could end up with a PM (who determines the cabinet) not friendly to him. While Cohabitation is certainly a possibility, the likelihood it happens in a way that favors Le Pen seems no more likely than her securing the presidency did.

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From the reporting I've heard Macron seems to be slightly to the left, so I'd imagine he'd do better against Melenchon, since Macron have 50% of the French on his right. But he's leading something like 65-35 against Le Pen, so he's still doing pretty well against her, even if he's battling for the median voter

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The center right in France is endorsing Macron, in the US they didn't endorse Clinton and most backed Trump. They deserve more scorn than Bernie.

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I can imagine this is what's pushing EU members towards an EU standing army, was it Hollande that proposed that?

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This is undoubtedly a provocative title. However, unless Macron instigates complete reform of the eurozone, from an economic and financial perspective this advert title is much more accurate than a lot of the content that is posted here.

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> ~~Slandering~~ Accurately naming candidates you disagree with as "fascists" is a significant reason as to why they garner such support I guess that explains all the Nazis voting for trump and Le Pen then.

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Bernie: "Open borders are a right wing proposal" Macron: Very pro common market.

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I can give you this, Hillary, it is a Victory for Macron and the EU. But it is not a victory for France.

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Le pen will make it past the first round but I doubt she'll do better than that. It looks like Macron is going to win but anything can happen.

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Should have used Le Pencil instead. You can erase your mistakes.

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Tragedy of Hamon in this campaign, tbh. He sincerely can't ask loyalty from anyone in his party.

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You can do all the mental gymnastics you want to try to say donnie boy isn't supporting le pen, it still won't make it true.

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Like Clinton or Macron want to sell their country to the elite by promoting "diversity" ? It's just easier for liberals to have an enemy like Russia so the elite can unite them against big bad Russia and rob them of their country's culture and wealth .

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I'll stick around, it's not like Le Pen being in charge will stop me enjoying the French food and weather.

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I just can't understand how some voters in the west can't see why Russia wants these far right lunatics in power. The ignorance of le pen, trump and brexit voters is inexcusable.

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That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Everyone voted for trump thinking he wouldn't be that bad. He hasn't even elected any state officials yet. No wall. Self proclaimed globalist. Hires an advisor who actively says he's trying to burn the government down. Spends most of his time transferring money to his private businesses and staying at them to force America to pay for his security. Le Pen happily allies herself with Trump and Putin. Same thing, buddy. She'll loot the country and do none of what she's promising. Don't tell people to commit suicide.

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Politicians supporting him doesn't mean they are in his party. Fillon just declared support for Macron.

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> Depends what happens with France really. What do you expect to happen? Either Fillon or Macron will be elected. Macron is most likely, leading the polls for both the first and the second round of the French elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-idUSKBN16Z0H1 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-idUSKBN16W048 He is the candidate for and founder of the following party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_Marche! >Ideology: >Social liberalism >Pro-Europeanism >Third Way >Progressivism >Economic liberalism

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Is that enshrined in the UN charter? Nope. Also, it hardly shows that the UN will protect rights like free speech when Le Pen is being prosecuted for tweeting a photograph of ISIS beheadings in response to claims that they are the good guys.

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Le Pen being elected is exactly what they want. That's why they're doing this now. They know she's opposed to Western values, just like they are, and will generate more conflict within France than they could ever achieve on their own.

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Maybe, just maybe you people should start electing leaders to secure your borders and halt the flow of immigrants into you country from people who want to kill you. You're not going to do that though, your going to keep electing spineless weasels like Macron who embrace this type of thing with open arms.

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Goddamn, this is what a leader of the free world looks like. It makes me sad to realize we are no longer a shining city on the hill for the world to follow. It appears a Franco-German Europe is now our world's future hope. Charlemacron/merkel all the way.

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But even if le pen got into power its not like she will deport muslims, the policies she has would not radicalise nearly enough muslims.

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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ mr macron TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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I have to agree. There's a very short interval between the two rounds, so Fillon won't be able to do a U-turn and convince the left. Le Pen might be better prepared for that. Plus, most of the French left is probably uncertain on which poison to pick in the F-LP scenario. Large amounts of disappointed, uncertain voters is what got Trump in power. At least there won't be the "polls say that he's going to win, so it will be safe to stay home" effect. France has banned opinion polls near the election.

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They do in theory, but with very different approaches. When Le Pen blames Europe and immigration for all the wrongs of the world, Mélenchon blames white-collar criminals and the oligarchy. And Europe. They do have some views in common, but Mélenchon is very open to immigration, and against the "France to French" ideology that le pen loves and push so much. You can see why they're not compatible ...

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This has always been a welcome by-product of the migration wave. Same thing with UK's creeping Big brother or Macron trying to give himself permanent emergency powers. Long live our glorious know-better overlords! I'm sure this sub will keep defending them to death tho.

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France has a law Le Pen apparently broke. MEPs decided to revoke her immunity as to not attack French sovereignty. I see no issue with the MEPs decision. You may consider the French law to be bad, but that's up to the people of France to decide and also not what the MEPs voted on.

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au contraire, isn't Le Pen the person who says NOT to intervene against the islamic state? That way they win =)

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Most French pollsters are saying she will win the first round- that's given. But lose it all in second round. Something apocalyptic will have to happen between now and election day, for Marine Le Pen to have a chance. Maybe more terrorist attacks in France.. PS: Am sorry, I had to use terrorism as an example to put my point across.

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Fillon is out, not an option anymore. Sucks, but he sunk himself with his nepotism and he has nobody to blame but himself.

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They've filled the sub with "Thanks! I voted Le Pen!!" And even have French flairs lol

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* 450/280 = 1.61 * Macron did 60% better than Hollande * 100% - 60% = 40% * Obtaining 40% of the vote is an astonishing victory. * Therefore a 60% increase is trivial.

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So more Macron memes. Got it. But thanks for the insight!

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I am not saying it is the only way, but that is what Melenchon and his followers proposed. And I dissagree, how is capitalism unethical?

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>BLA BLA BLA BLA In the article: >Ms Le Pen, a member of the European parliament, is under investigation in France for posting three graphic images of Isis executions on **Twitter** in 2015, including the beheading of the United States journalist James Foley. Once again, when did TWITTER become the European parliament? And is Marine Le Pen carrying out her duties as an MEP on TWITTER and not in the parliament?

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I didn't hear anybody calling Le Pen anything sexist...fascist maybe... Macron meanwhile took no end of sexist insults.

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I like Macron. He's an independent trying to pluralize French politics and he leans to the right on economic reforms, which 🇫🇷 desperately needs. I wonder what he looks like shirtless. I couldn't find any bare-chested pictures on Bing.

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>What makes you think that EU supporters don't think there's anything wrong with the EU? I don't. Macron knows there is no possibility of reforms.

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You're right I don't actually care if he was the current leader or honorary leader or anything, his past doesn't bother me and I still support Le Pen

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So Fillon is getting punished for corruption, but Le Pen is not.

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It is important to note that AfD have been losing their voting share, and that in Germany the two main candidates are both European Federalists: Merkel and Schulz. In France Macron has been gaining a larger and larger lead over Fillon, and vs Le Pen in the second round looks to win by about 20%. Furthermore Wilders is not even polling first anymore, and nobody will form a coalition with him anyway. While certain sources are biased, in particular Anglophone sources, the reality is that anti-EU sentiment is not actually that high across the continent.

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and their melonhead leader effectively equating macron with lepen. disgusting.

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I think everyone realizes some kind of political union is necessary if we want fiscal integration. Macron proposes to create a european minister of finance btw. He's completely willing to give up some sovereignty.

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You know what's funny. I think the biggest thing that will save France from The Donald propaganda is language. None of them understand French, or even French culture or politics. They don't know how to even frame Macron in a bad light. For example, they tried to push that he is gay, and when that didn't work, they try to attack his marriage. It's sad.

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I think it's about positive campaing. Macron also ran one. Just "not vote for the other guy" as Clinton's campaign did was wrong. We need Obama's 2008 style of campaign.

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The question in all of this is in what shape will the FN be in by 2022. I don't think it's a guarantee that Marine Le Pen or someone else connected to the FN will be macron or melenchon's main challenger in 2022. Potential infighting after the landslide election loss between the different factions of the FN could significantly damage the FN.

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If her supporters hate being subservient to the EU so much, why are they so tolerant of Le Pen being subservient to Putin? I just don't get it. Even if you don't like the EU surely logic dictates that it's better to be a powerful EU member than a Russian lackey.

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Exactly! Complacency is the worst enemy of people who are against Le Pen (and similar political movements).

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What a compelling argument! I see now why Le Pen is literally evil incarnate. Thanks for the very constructive debate

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Well, I didn't like Le Pen either (I'm an American, not French, so I didn't have a say anyway).

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Le Pen will win because she's not Globalism scum and some people in Europe are waking up. Nationalism will prevail.

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Francois Fillon has recently been hit with allegation of corruption that have shaken his race to the Presidency in 2017..

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Populism has been growing in momentum around the world. First with the Brexit vote in the UK , then with the American election of Donald Trump and now Marine Le Pen rising to the top of political sentiment in France. Only weeks away from the French Election taking place at the end of April this reports looks at Marine le Pen's policies and how they could affect the whole of Europe.

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Under Le Pen terrorism would get worse as there would be an added far-left terrorism component. There would also be rioting as antifa and facist groups confront each others.

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Just a bad article. "Macron is pro-business. Also... OK that's it that's the article." Like it's not hard to make Macron look bad to Bernie types, he really is a centrist. He does actually want to institute liberal reforms they wouldn't like. Just open up his platform and start quoting it! Why be lazy?

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There are at least as many articles worrying abut le pen as there are dismissing her, dont misrepresent things.

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FDP is more classical liberal though, D66 and Macron/EM are more social liberal

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Bernie's position is closer to Macron than Melenchon. The comparisons you make are not even close. Europe knew that US republicans had no knowledge of European politics (calling moderate parties communist), and the US democrats have proven it too (failing to understand the values of the left). The European left/centre is appalled of your virtue signalling 'democrat' party. Melenchon views are completely at odds with Bernie Sanders. Melenchon wants the left (social democracy) to die.

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No, I did not. Take your Alt-truth elsewhere:) This tactic is transparent as hell. Also, how stupid do you have to be to vote for Le pen? She's bought by a foreign state. Meanwhile, that same state has only 'he's gay!' as attack against Macron.

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to be fair, reuters was just quoting what the macron campaign said.

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Maybe Le Penn wouldn't be winning if this claim was true.

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>Because you probably lived in a rich part of town Nah, Patterson Park. My classes were out of the hospital in the downtown. :\^) There goes that talking point lol >Funny how the French who live in areas with high Muslim population overwhelmingly voted Le pen, huh? This isn't even vaguely true. The only people that went for Le Pen were the rural hicks. Paris overwhelmingly went for Macron. hashtag alternative facts

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Sure that may be true, but it also means that rumors and outright lies will be able to be propagated on the internet with ZERO fact checking and zero challenges. All the while the right wing can use the "look how the media refuses to cover this" as "evidence" of some kind of foul play. Macron himself has no ability to even defend himself under French law... Thus, I see the need to effectively 'clog the pipes' of French social media as a means of creating resistance to their propaganda. It's worth a try...

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5 years ain't shit at my age, man. I remember returning to Poland in 2010 after 20+ years of, well, not being in Poland and here we are with a Trump presidency and a *potential* Le Pen in the French president's office in 2017. I am a bit of a pessimist and I think we'll get the Chinese curse within the next 5 years.

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Actually this is the thing that triggers me the most. Even if Trump gets impeached, Le pen and the other right-wing puppets lose... Putin is like: 'Well, what ever, was a nice and fun try. What's next?'

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Additionally, the slides in the first link actually made some very good points and suggestions. Bolstered my support for Macron if anything.

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> Someone like macron, swedish or other democratic leaders would never be banned from publicly speaking in Germany. So it kinda goes against basic german rights. No, it doesn't. A foreign politician addressing his expats in Germany is not a right. It's a privilege granted at the governments discretion. Germany is under no obligation to grant privileges to everyone.

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Wilders' party didn't even win a plurality in the Netherlands (they gained 5 seats), and it would take a miracle for Le Pen to pull out a win after underperforming polling in the first round that was already pegging her at only 35~40% for the second round.

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> which is completly ridiculous. Let's say that crime against humanity is actually an incrimination defined by the Rome Statute and punished by the International Criminal Court, so if you make such bold claim you should prepare to have it challenged and be ready to substantiate it clearly. Which he didn't. (I'm a Macron supporter, but this was obviously bullshit).

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France is well liked in these parts anyways just keep le pen in her box and all will be grand! :)

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There is no conservative. There are two declining main parties with Fillon (liberal economist, catholic traditionalism) and Hamon (strong left, keynesian/regulated economy + universal income...) and two candidates who each represents a social model. Le Pen is sovereinist and protectionist and Macron (independent) is globalist and backing free trade. All parties agree on climate change, gay rights (bar FN. Mlp said she Would change the law on marriage back). The main topics are unemployment, immigration, social security...

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> Isn't stealing and lying inherent to socialism? TIL Fillon is a socialist.

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YEAH MAN LE PEN IS A PERFECTLY SANE INDIVIDUAL WHOMST'VE'DVE'D SUPPORTS PERFECTLY SANE POLICIES AND WLL DRAIN THE EU SWAMP

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Sorry about that. Was trying to make a point about the comment I was replying to (which was very much the same sort of "use a question structure to force an assertion down your throat" structure, and about Macron supposedly being sexually abused as a child), and probably took it too far when I did so.

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So Le Pen is just anti-EU for its own sake? She's not anti-EU because the EU conflicts with what she believes is in the best interests of France? She opposes the EU like many do because she has a patriotic vision of an independent, self-determining France. She does not want to live in a united states of Europe with ever centralised power in fewer and fewer hands. She is anti-EU precisely because she's a patriot. You cannot be pro-EU and and patriot because the EU is a supranational institution, it wants to do away with the nation state.

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I heard an interview with a young Le Pen supporter who honestly said she thought that she would be forced to wear a hijab in five years if Macron won. Moron. We all know it's three.

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You literally tried to tie whether or not Le Pen is an actual fascist to my ability to defend the claim. Whether or not I can defend it is irrelevant to whether it's true. This is a pretty fundamental truth of the universe. My mother tells me I'm a special little boy. But even she doesn't think that I'm so special as to have the facts of the universe hinge on my ability to describe them. That shit is just crazy.

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Well, Merkel and Macron want to sanction Poland for not accepting enough Muslim refugees. That's doing something! /s

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Well, to be fair, that's apparently what Melenchon is doing.

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Update: Banned from that sub for pointing out that when someone wanted sympathy for Le Pen voters that the sub was notorious for not offering it to Clinton supporters. so...

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French PS (center left) head resigns. Adieu Camba. Also Le Pen won. She's a MP :/

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If George Soros fought against the Iraq war and others like it then he's based. However as a former Alt-right supporter as of 3 days ago I am still anti-EU and supported Maria Le Pen for that reason so I can't support Soros too much.

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>Look at Greece, currently thinking of dropping out of the EU Source? >Look at France with Le Pen... Currently the top polling French candidate going into the election, and she is extremely anti-EU. With a whole 25% support. It's opponents are: Fillon (22%), Macron (21%), Hamon (15%), and some other minor left wing candidates.

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Meh, I'm wouldn't be so sure. I don't think hardly any left voters will go vote Fillon in case of Le pen v Fillon.

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They are also poles apart from the branch of nationalism and fascism that Le Pen promotes.

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Abstentions rates will be a big factor in this election: most of Macron's supporters on the second round did not vote for him on the first... They are only motivated by their dislike for Le Pen: they have no love for Macron. This 10-20 points margin is made of unconvinced people, forced into a vote they dont like by a broken electoral system. Should they come to believe that Le Pen has no chance of getting elected, they might choose to stay home on election day or cast a "protest" ballot. And that could very well lead to surprising result.

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You definitely need to learn more about economics then. There's a huge difference between Mélenchon (eco-communist), Hamon (eco-socdem), Macron (social liberal), Fillon (traditionnalist conservative) and Le Pen (protectionnism and nationalism)

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Macron is a lot closer to the right-wing than to the far-left. You're either trolling or you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Arab man records himself illegally swiping all the Le Pen ballots on offer at his polling station in suburban Paris so no one can vote for her https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c6b_1494277529

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