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It's better when you're like Le Pen and say, "With me none of the terror attacks would have happened!". Way more reasonable and realistic.
worldnews
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
Instead of refuting the content of my argument, you just complain about how my language isn't pc enough for you? No wonder Macron won!
neoliberal
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
Instead of refuting the content of my argument, you just complain about how my language isn't pc enough for you? No wonder Macron won!
neoliberal
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
Instead of refuting the content of my argument, you just complain about how my language isn't pc enough for you? No wonder Macron won!
neoliberal
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Confident
I have more faith in the EU institution being not corrupted than the administration offices in each country, even my own (and in a way especially my own with Fillon and Le Pen so close to power)
europe
French politics
annotator03
Authority
Somewhat Confident
I have more faith in the EU institution being not corrupted than the administration offices in each country, even my own (and in a way especially my own with Fillon and Le Pen so close to power)
europe
French politics
annotator01
Authority
Confident
I have more faith in the EU institution being not corrupted than the administration offices in each country, even my own (and in a way especially my own with Fillon and Le Pen so close to power)
europe
French politics
annotator02
Authority
Confident
My argument for why Le Pen will not be a dictator is that she simply does not want to be a dictator. The rigorous checks and balances which would prevent anyone from becoming one in modern France only strengthen the argument.
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Somewhat Confident
My argument for why Le Pen will not be a dictator is that she simply does not want to be a dictator. The rigorous checks and balances which would prevent anyone from becoming one in modern France only strengthen the argument.
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
My argument for why Le Pen will not be a dictator is that she simply does not want to be a dictator. The rigorous checks and balances which would prevent anyone from becoming one in modern France only strengthen the argument.
europe
French politics
annotator02
Authority
Confident
And after that we can hear years of complaining how bad Melenchon is and why there are never good politicians who actually solve problems.
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
And after that we can hear years of complaining how bad Melenchon is and why there are never good politicians who actually solve problems.
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
And after that we can hear years of complaining how bad Melenchon is and why there are never good politicians who actually solve problems.
europe
French politics
annotator00
Thin Morality
Somewhat Confident
it's bad enough that it plagues us, now it has apparently infected Macron and this subreddit
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
it's bad enough that it plagues us, now it has apparently infected Macron and this subreddit
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
it's bad enough that it plagues us, now it has apparently infected Macron and this subreddit
europe
French politics
annotator01
Purity
Confident
> does that mean I'm a trump / le pen supporter for thinking they should be deported / arrested No, I believe you're a Trump/Le Pen supporter if you support Trump/Le Pen. ...is English so fucking difficult?
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
> does that mean I'm a trump / le pen supporter for thinking they should be deported / arrested No, I believe you're a Trump/Le Pen supporter if you support Trump/Le Pen. ...is English so fucking difficult?
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Purity,Proportionality
Somewhat Confident
> does that mean I'm a trump / le pen supporter for thinking they should be deported / arrested No, I believe you're a Trump/Le Pen supporter if you support Trump/Le Pen. ...is English so fucking difficult?
worldnews
French politics
annotator01
Loyalty
Somewhat Confident
While I don't like Le Pen, why is this on this sub? Debate is one thing, campaign ad posts are different. Wouldn't this fall under "agenda pushing" ?
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
While I don't like Le Pen, why is this on this sub? Debate is one thing, campaign ad posts are different. Wouldn't this fall under "agenda pushing" ?
europe
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Somewhat Confident
While I don't like Le Pen, why is this on this sub? Debate is one thing, campaign ad posts are different. Wouldn't this fall under "agenda pushing" ?
europe
French politics
annotator02
Non-Moral
Confident
Ignoring their ages, Hillary and Macron wouldn't be very different.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
Ignoring their ages, Hillary and Macron wouldn't be very different.
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Proportionality
Somewhat Confident
Ignoring their ages, Hillary and Macron wouldn't be very different.
worldnews
French politics
annotator02
Non-Moral
Confident
No, that only in the context of the refugee crisis, terror attacks, splintered left and LR plus economic downturn, she only got 21%. These silent Le Pen voters don't exist. Frenchmen who are silent and humble about their political opinion don't exist.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
No, that only in the context of the refugee crisis, terror attacks, splintered left and LR plus economic downturn, she only got 21%. These silent Le Pen voters don't exist. Frenchmen who are silent and humble about their political opinion don't exist.
worldnews
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
No, that only in the context of the refugee crisis, terror attacks, splintered left and LR plus economic downturn, she only got 21%. These silent Le Pen voters don't exist. Frenchmen who are silent and humble about their political opinion don't exist.
worldnews
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Not Confident
>Paris and the metropolitan areas love Macron, and the rest of France wants Marine Le Pen [lol](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/07/world/europe/france-election-results-maps.html)
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
>Paris and the metropolitan areas love Macron, and the rest of France wants Marine Le Pen [lol](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/07/world/europe/france-election-results-maps.html)
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
>Paris and the metropolitan areas love Macron, and the rest of France wants Marine Le Pen [lol](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/07/world/europe/france-election-results-maps.html)
europe
French politics
annotator01
Loyalty
Confident
We watched the Macron documentary on Netflix on Friday night. It may be too late.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
We watched the Macron documentary on Netflix on Friday night. It may be too late.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
We watched the Macron documentary on Netflix on Friday night. It may be too late.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Confident
I'd say that people in France really, really don't care about private affairs. Like, I'm French, didn't even know Macron was married to his teacher before Last Week Tonight, don't really care that much tbh.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
I'd say that people in France really, really don't care about private affairs. Like, I'm French, didn't even know Macron was married to his teacher before Last Week Tonight, don't really care that much tbh.
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Care
Somewhat Confident
I'd say that people in France really, really don't care about private affairs. Like, I'm French, didn't even know Macron was married to his teacher before Last Week Tonight, don't really care that much tbh.
worldnews
French politics
annotator02
Non-Moral
Confident
Kudos to the british intelligence services first of all. The two islamist scums were expected to try to assassinate the conservative candidate, François Fillon.
europe
French politics
annotator03
Loyalty
Somewhat Confident
Kudos to the british intelligence services first of all. The two islamist scums were expected to try to assassinate the conservative candidate, François Fillon.
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
Kudos to the british intelligence services first of all. The two islamist scums were expected to try to assassinate the conservative candidate, François Fillon.
europe
French politics
annotator00
Thin Morality
Not Confident
The French Socialist Party are centre-left and wishy-washy as fuck. They're just polite neoliberals with a few token socially liberal policies. Hollande shat the bed on his rich tax. He's pathetic.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Loyalty
Somewhat Confident
The French Socialist Party are centre-left and wishy-washy as fuck. They're just polite neoliberals with a few token socially liberal policies. Hollande shat the bed on his rich tax. He's pathetic.
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
The French Socialist Party are centre-left and wishy-washy as fuck. They're just polite neoliberals with a few token socially liberal policies. Hollande shat the bed on his rich tax. He's pathetic.
worldnews
French politics
annotator02
Proportionality
Somewhat Confident
I don't know how many times we have to repeat: This is French affair. She broke French laws, which are based on French democratic notions, and is being prosecuted by French authorities. She tried to avoid answering for her actions (which were illegal, like it or not) and tried to hide behind the diplomatic immunity held by EU representatives. Brussels politicians had no involvement. Framing this as "Le Pen vs the tyrannical, ISIS-Loving EU" is simplifying a very complex political situation, as is forcing an American perspective on French concepts of free speech.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Loyalty
Not Confident
I don't know how many times we have to repeat: This is French affair. She broke French laws, which are based on French democratic notions, and is being prosecuted by French authorities. She tried to avoid answering for her actions (which were illegal, like it or not) and tried to hide behind the diplomatic immunity held by EU representatives. Brussels politicians had no involvement. Framing this as "Le Pen vs the tyrannical, ISIS-Loving EU" is simplifying a very complex political situation, as is forcing an American perspective on French concepts of free speech.
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Proportionality
Confident
I don't know how many times we have to repeat: This is French affair. She broke French laws, which are based on French democratic notions, and is being prosecuted by French authorities. She tried to avoid answering for her actions (which were illegal, like it or not) and tried to hide behind the diplomatic immunity held by EU representatives. Brussels politicians had no involvement. Framing this as "Le Pen vs the tyrannical, ISIS-Loving EU" is simplifying a very complex political situation, as is forcing an American perspective on French concepts of free speech.
worldnews
French politics
annotator02
Authority
Confident
Which Macron doesnt intend to change (aslong as "terror threat persists"). So if that qualifies as closed borders, no one is going to open them.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
Which Macron doesnt intend to change (aslong as "terror threat persists"). So if that qualifies as closed borders, no one is going to open them.
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
Which Macron doesnt intend to change (aslong as "terror threat persists"). So if that qualifies as closed borders, no one is going to open them.
worldnews
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Somewhat Confident
So was le pen, even if everything she said was logical and true. 2/3's of France was against it. Looks like Belgium is on the same page
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
So was le pen, even if everything she said was logical and true. 2/3's of France was against it. Looks like Belgium is on the same page
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
So was le pen, even if everything she said was logical and true. 2/3's of France was against it. Looks like Belgium is on the same page
worldnews
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Confident
Swedish politician are always under watch. They can't do a single thing and spend a single penny without justification. Which makes Sweden one of the least corrupted country in the world : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Purity
Not Confident
Swedish politician are always under watch. They can't do a single thing and spend a single penny without justification. Which makes Sweden one of the least corrupted country in the world : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Purity,Loyalty,Authority
Confident
Swedish politician are always under watch. They can't do a single thing and spend a single penny without justification. Which makes Sweden one of the least corrupted country in the world : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
worldnews
French politics
annotator00
Authority
Not Confident
So what do you think about the Macron's leaks? His campaign comes out right after 10,000+ emails are released and says almost verbatim "The ones that are describing mundane campaign organization details are real, and the salacious ones you might find those are all fakes meant to muddy the water and confuse voters". They also claimed to have found many fakes, yet did not provide a single example. You would think the headlines would read "Macron claims emails are fakes, without providing any evidence".
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
So what do you think about the Macron's leaks? His campaign comes out right after 10,000+ emails are released and says almost verbatim "The ones that are describing mundane campaign organization details are real, and the salacious ones you might find those are all fakes meant to muddy the water and confuse voters". They also claimed to have found many fakes, yet did not provide a single example. You would think the headlines would read "Macron claims emails are fakes, without providing any evidence".
worldnews
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Somewhat Confident
So what do you think about the Macron's leaks? His campaign comes out right after 10,000+ emails are released and says almost verbatim "The ones that are describing mundane campaign organization details are real, and the salacious ones you might find those are all fakes meant to muddy the water and confuse voters". They also claimed to have found many fakes, yet did not provide a single example. You would think the headlines would read "Macron claims emails are fakes, without providing any evidence".
worldnews
French politics
annotator02
Non-Moral
Confident
Hardly. 95 percent polled Macron voters were decided to certainly vote for him. In case of Le Pen it was around 80 percent. Low turnput hence doesnt fancy her.
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
Hardly. 95 percent polled Macron voters were decided to certainly vote for him. In case of Le Pen it was around 80 percent. Low turnput hence doesnt fancy her.
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
Hardly. 95 percent polled Macron voters were decided to certainly vote for him. In case of Le Pen it was around 80 percent. Low turnput hence doesnt fancy her.
europe
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
> This force is ~~Trudeau, it's Hillary Clinton, it's Macron, and it's the Liberal Democrats~~. *neoliberalism (and its big tent)
neoliberal
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
> This force is ~~Trudeau, it's Hillary Clinton, it's Macron, and it's the Liberal Democrats~~. *neoliberalism (and its big tent)
neoliberal
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Somewhat Confident
> This force is ~~Trudeau, it's Hillary Clinton, it's Macron, and it's the Liberal Democrats~~. *neoliberalism (and its big tent)
neoliberal
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
This is my ideal situation. Le Pen even making it to the second round is terrifying.
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
This is my ideal situation. Le Pen even making it to the second round is terrifying.
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
This is my ideal situation. Le Pen even making it to the second round is terrifying.
europe
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Not Confident
> if Macron wins in 2017 then country will be more ruined and people even more filled with blind rage so they will vote for Le Pen in 2022. So lets have Le Pen win in 2017 so that she can't win in 2022? What kind of logic is that?
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
> if Macron wins in 2017 then country will be more ruined and people even more filled with blind rage so they will vote for Le Pen in 2022. So lets have Le Pen win in 2017 so that she can't win in 2022? What kind of logic is that?
europe
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
> if Macron wins in 2017 then country will be more ruined and people even more filled with blind rage so they will vote for Le Pen in 2022. So lets have Le Pen win in 2017 so that she can't win in 2022? What kind of logic is that?
europe
French politics
annotator00
Thin Morality
Not Confident
we going going to call for a recount. Make up a story about macron and Russia. And and protest in the street every weekend Also macron is a bafoon whos mouth is Angela Merkel cock holster
Conservative
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
we going going to call for a recount. Make up a story about macron and Russia. And and protest in the street every weekend Also macron is a bafoon whos mouth is Angela Merkel cock holster
Conservative
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
we going going to call for a recount. Make up a story about macron and Russia. And and protest in the street every weekend Also macron is a bafoon whos mouth is Angela Merkel cock holster
Conservative
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Not Confident
Also France doesn't have an electoral college and is based on popular vote. If it ends up like the U.S, Le Pen will lose.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
Also France doesn't have an electoral college and is based on popular vote. If it ends up like the U.S, Le Pen will lose.
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
Also France doesn't have an electoral college and is based on popular vote. If it ends up like the U.S, Le Pen will lose.
worldnews
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
There are reasons to believe they did it on purpose if you consider that wikileaks has turned into a russian propaganda tool, that leaked the american emails and sent a link to the mix of true and false Macronleaks.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
There are reasons to believe they did it on purpose if you consider that wikileaks has turned into a russian propaganda tool, that leaked the american emails and sent a link to the mix of true and false Macronleaks.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
There are reasons to believe they did it on purpose if you consider that wikileaks has turned into a russian propaganda tool, that leaked the american emails and sent a link to the mix of true and false Macronleaks.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator02
Non-Moral
Confident
You could argue that the racism and xenophobia is largely due to "economic anxiety", but yeah let's not pretend these people voted Trump/Le Pen because they wholeheartedly agree with their economic policy.
europe
French politics
annotator03
Equality
Somewhat Confident
You could argue that the racism and xenophobia is largely due to "economic anxiety", but yeah let's not pretend these people voted Trump/Le Pen because they wholeheartedly agree with their economic policy.
europe
French politics
annotator04
Proportionality,Care,Equality
Confident
You could argue that the racism and xenophobia is largely due to "economic anxiety", but yeah let's not pretend these people voted Trump/Le Pen because they wholeheartedly agree with their economic policy.
europe
French politics
annotator01
Loyalty
Confident
Islamic radicals want Le Pen to win. Muslims living in the West in cooperation and peace with Westerners (who are engaged in "wars against Islam" in Iraq , Yemen , Syria, etc) are apostates . They don't care about the welfare of Muslims in a secular France . Islamic radicals and right wing nationalist radicals both want a clash of civilizations and a "purification" of their lands. One from secularism/western democracy, the other from Muslim immigrants
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Purity,Loyalty
Confident
Islamic radicals want Le Pen to win. Muslims living in the West in cooperation and peace with Westerners (who are engaged in "wars against Islam" in Iraq , Yemen , Syria, etc) are apostates . They don't care about the welfare of Muslims in a secular France . Islamic radicals and right wing nationalist radicals both want a clash of civilizations and a "purification" of their lands. One from secularism/western democracy, the other from Muslim immigrants
worldnews
French politics
annotator00
Authority
Not Confident
Islamic radicals want Le Pen to win. Muslims living in the West in cooperation and peace with Westerners (who are engaged in "wars against Islam" in Iraq , Yemen , Syria, etc) are apostates . They don't care about the welfare of Muslims in a secular France . Islamic radicals and right wing nationalist radicals both want a clash of civilizations and a "purification" of their lands. One from secularism/western democracy, the other from Muslim immigrants
worldnews
French politics
annotator02
Care,Equality
Confident
What % of Filion voters do you think will vote for Marcon? what % will vote for Le Pen?
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
What % of Filion voters do you think will vote for Marcon? what % will vote for Le Pen?
europe
French politics
annotator04
Non-Moral
Confident
What % of Filion voters do you think will vote for Marcon? what % will vote for Le Pen?
europe
French politics
annotator00
Non-Moral
Confident
> He is ALREADY FUCKING BEING NORMALIZED. He's been normalized. TBH, he was normalized before he even ran for president, and before he said anything about Obama's birth certificate. It's just how Americans are. And to a lesser extent, the rest of the anglo world. If Le Pen loses, it'll further cement the Anglo-Europe divide, especially since immigration is *actually* a problem in France.
worldnews
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
> He is ALREADY FUCKING BEING NORMALIZED. He's been normalized. TBH, he was normalized before he even ran for president, and before he said anything about Obama's birth certificate. It's just how Americans are. And to a lesser extent, the rest of the anglo world. If Le Pen loses, it'll further cement the Anglo-Europe divide, especially since immigration is *actually* a problem in France.
worldnews
French politics
annotator04
Thin Morality
Confident
> He is ALREADY FUCKING BEING NORMALIZED. He's been normalized. TBH, he was normalized before he even ran for president, and before he said anything about Obama's birth certificate. It's just how Americans are. And to a lesser extent, the rest of the anglo world. If Le Pen loses, it'll further cement the Anglo-Europe divide, especially since immigration is *actually* a problem in France.
worldnews
French politics
annotator02
Equality
Not Confident
Watching footage at the Louvre following Macron's forecasted victory, I spotted what first appeared to be the old Iraqi flags, but upon investigating, I found that they're actually the flags for the old Republic of Syria (1930-1953). I know that Syria was once under French and then Vichy rule, but could anyone tell me why someone would wave this particular flag in response to the elections? Thank you!
geopolitics
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
Watching footage at the Louvre following Macron's forecasted victory, I spotted what first appeared to be the old Iraqi flags, but upon investigating, I found that they're actually the flags for the old Republic of Syria (1930-1953). I know that Syria was once under French and then Vichy rule, but could anyone tell me why someone would wave this particular flag in response to the elections? Thank you!
geopolitics
French politics
annotator04
Non-Moral
Somewhat Confident
Watching footage at the Louvre following Macron's forecasted victory, I spotted what first appeared to be the old Iraqi flags, but upon investigating, I found that they're actually the flags for the old Republic of Syria (1930-1953). I know that Syria was once under French and then Vichy rule, but could anyone tell me why someone would wave this particular flag in response to the elections? Thank you!
geopolitics
French politics
annotator01
Non-Moral
Confident
Well, when talking about Poland not supporting Tusk, polish PM said "we got principles". And Hollande answered "You got principles and we got the structural funds". Your link describes it as "French president appeared to suggest that Poland – as one of the biggest recipients of EU structural funds – should toe the line on Tusk’s re-election". So, polish pm says nasty things for no reason. But the "you better shut up" attitude is "French president appeared to suggest". When you live in the "Guardian" world, you use "I dont get this" phrase quite often, dont you?
europe
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Confident
Well, when talking about Poland not supporting Tusk, polish PM said "we got principles". And Hollande answered "You got principles and we got the structural funds". Your link describes it as "French president appeared to suggest that Poland – as one of the biggest recipients of EU structural funds – should toe the line on Tusk’s re-election". So, polish pm says nasty things for no reason. But the "you better shut up" attitude is "French president appeared to suggest". When you live in the "Guardian" world, you use "I dont get this" phrase quite often, dont you?
europe
French politics
annotator04
Proportionality
Somewhat Confident
Well, when talking about Poland not supporting Tusk, polish PM said "we got principles". And Hollande answered "You got principles and we got the structural funds". Your link describes it as "French president appeared to suggest that Poland – as one of the biggest recipients of EU structural funds – should toe the line on Tusk’s re-election". So, polish pm says nasty things for no reason. But the "you better shut up" attitude is "French president appeared to suggest". When you live in the "Guardian" world, you use "I dont get this" phrase quite often, dont you?
europe
French politics
annotator00
Thin Morality
Not Confident
She is the reason euroscepticism is on the rise with a hard austerity policies she imposes on weaker countries. Also, she has been blocking marriage equality for years, even thought the population wants. Macron's victory means French people are willing to give the EU the last chance to do something but if Schaeuble /Merkel think they can keep the status quo than they will see the EU die. Le Pen or Melenchon will be the president five years from now if Merkel continues in the same path.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator03
Non-Moral
Somewhat Confident
She is the reason euroscepticism is on the rise with a hard austerity policies she imposes on weaker countries. Also, she has been blocking marriage equality for years, even thought the population wants. Macron's victory means French people are willing to give the EU the last chance to do something but if Schaeuble /Merkel think they can keep the status quo than they will see the EU die. Le Pen or Melenchon will be the president five years from now if Merkel continues in the same path.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator01
Authority,Equality
Confident
She is the reason euroscepticism is on the rise with a hard austerity policies she imposes on weaker countries. Also, she has been blocking marriage equality for years, even thought the population wants. Macron's victory means French people are willing to give the EU the last chance to do something but if Schaeuble /Merkel think they can keep the status quo than they will see the EU die. Le Pen or Melenchon will be the president five years from now if Merkel continues in the same path.
neoliberal
French politics
annotator02
Equality
Confident