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pissedoff
2007-04-26T18:16:05
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Dude, my idea is <i>not</i> a teen site. PirateChick is an ass and put that up!
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Prrometheus
2007-04-26T18:16:30
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Lamer, one could say.
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Goladus
2007-04-26T18:16:59
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Grab some scrap paper, or emacs, or thinkature, or a whiteboard, or whatever.<p>Start by describing what it is in a single, full paragraph. At this point, it doesn't matter how long your description is, or how spiffy it sounds. Just try to keep it to one paragraph, two at the most. Then, start compressing it. Find ideas that really aren't important right off the bat and cut them. Find ideas that are similar and combine them into smaller sentences. <p>"Snipshot is a web-based application. Users can upload image files, or submit a link to another picture on the web. Uploaded images can resized, cropped, or enhanced. Basic attributes can be modified, like brightness, saturation, and hue. Images can be saved to your hard disk in 6 different formats. They can be published to Flikr or Webshots."<p>Combine sentences 3 and 4. Sum it up as "Uploaded images can be edited." Then combine with sentence 2 to say "You can upload or link images and then edit them." Cut sentences 5 and 6 because they aren't important right now.<p>Then you have "Snipshot is a web-based application. You can upload or link images and then edit them."<p>They compress it even further: "Edit pictures online."
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zaidf
2007-04-26T18:20:27
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Have presignups. In week before launch, we spent 75% of our time signing up users in advance.
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nostrademons
2007-04-26T18:24:46
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I remember that essay, and my employer works a little like that (we have a platform that all of our products are built upon). IMHO, it doesn't work quite as well as it sounds like it should.<p>Problem is, information is lost every time someone communicates their needs. Customers don't actually need what they <i>say</i> they need; there's always some detail that they forgot to mention that only shows up when you watch them use the product. That usually changes the tools that the programmers need, which often aren't the tools the programmers say they need, because programmers have their own preconceptions about how the solution should be implemented. Someone who's only done JavaEE programming will likely say "I need a tool that automates maintanance of my Hibernate and Spring configuration files", when they really mean "I need to store my user's session data between sessions."<p>There's often a strong organizational pressure to use the output of the toolmakers, even if the tools aren't suitable for the job. In my case, I'm not sure that I'd use our platform if just given our customer's requirements and my choice of toolset. But I can't really say that, because it harms morale and makes me seem like a lone wolf who can't work with other people. (Okay, I <i>have</i> said that, with the expected result.)<p>The nice thing about research labs is that nobody expects them to be useful. Other programmers can pick up or drop their work based on whether it actually <i>is</i> useful, not by some corporate policy. Unfortunately, the people most likely to pick up an interesting research lab project generally refuse to work for a big company. So there's a long history of guys in garages ripping off the best ideas of corporate research departments, and eating the parent company in the process.<p>If I were managing a large, cash-rich corporation, I'd have a small exclave a mile or so away from the main campus. It would have two buildings: a top-notch research lab, and an incubator (and a shared cafeteria, of course). The research lab would be staffed with high-priced Ph.Ds and tenured professors, the best in their fields. The incubator would be full of high school dropouts on grad student salaries, but with $40M+ stock grants contingent upon building something that millions of people will use. All executives from the parent company would be prohibited from setting foot on this campus.<p>Come to think of it, this sounds a lot like grad school, but without the bullshit.
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juwo
2007-04-26T18:24:50
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Ok, how about: "A juwo is a list that can help you Save Time, Organize, and be More Productive."<p> The para you asked is taken from juwo.com:<p> A "Swiss Army knife" piece of software that gives more power to consumers to structure snippets of audio, video and text as a bullet list, to more easily index and annotate them, and to share the lists with others. Its benefits extend to multimedia as related to more enriching broadcasts, collaboration and organizing. <p>
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nickb
2007-04-26T18:26:07
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I read all the comments and can't believe no one gave you some concrete advice. Sure, ideas are worthless until they are implemented but that does not JUSTIFY someone STEALING your idea and breaching the confidentiality! Just because you haven't implemented your idea fully, does NOT mean someone's JUSTIFIED to STEAL it!<p>Here's what you should do: expose her! That's right, start a blog, start the website for your idea and tell everyone how this person got the idea from you and breached the confidentiality. Post email exchange, provide a timeline of your conversaton with her, provide what you provided her with. Get it out in the sunlight. Investors and VCs will shun away from her since who wants to invest into a person that's a THIEF and invest into a company that might get sued by somoene (you)?! Startups have a low probability of success and these legal issues could just sink it. It's easier to invest into a "clean" startup.<p>Get the word out about her! Learn about SEO and work on getting your page to show up on the first page results when someone searches for her name. Talk to journalists (TC, GigaOM, etc) and get them to write about what happened to you. Expose her and get some publicity about your site in the process! Destroy her reputation! NEVER forget: in business, reputation is everything! Worst thing you can do is keep quiet about it.
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wammin
2007-04-26T18:27:14
Whats your favorite tool for creating a wireframe interface sketch?
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nickb
2007-04-26T18:27:41
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Karma doesn't exist.<p><a href="http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ellis11.html">http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ellis11.html</a>
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papersmith
2007-04-26T18:28:53
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Has anybody tried both Flex and OpenLaszlo? OpenLaszlo is already open source and compiles to both flash and ajax, so from the outside it looks like a more attractive choice. Any opinions on how they stack up?
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wammin
2007-04-26T18:28:54
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Before I design a web interface, I usually like to sketch it out to organize my ideas. I'm still using good-old graph paper and a mechanical pencil, then will often scan my sketches to post on our internal wiki. Are there better tools out there that would maybe allow for sharing & collaboration?
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nostrademons
2007-04-26T18:29:28
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That's not actually that hard to do, given how little many teachers are paid.<p>I made more straight out of high school than most of my teachers did. And a bunch of my friends were running $20/hour web design businesses while in high school, which (on an hourly basis) is more than our teachers were paid. This was 1998-1999...it's amazing how much teenagers can make in boom times.
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Prrometheus
2007-04-26T18:30:04
What Linux laptops do you use for development?
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mattculbreth
2007-04-26T18:30:42
Sun and IBM developing new high-end servers (for video and gaming applications)
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Goladus
2007-04-26T18:33:12
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For starters, eliminate "Swiss Army Knife." It's a bit too general and therefore distracting. <p>Also eliminate the part about giving more power to consumers. When I visit your website, I'm not thinking of myself as "consumers." I'm just a guy who wants to get something done and wondering if maybe you can help.<p>Take the rest of that sentence and separate it into one sentence for each idea.
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sharpshoot
2007-04-26T18:36:20
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zaidf
2007-04-26T18:36:57
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Simple: has that woman built the product as well as the OP planned; has she achieved/executed the marketing plans as well as he is planning to? I want to bet the answer to both questions is "no" in which case at this point it is a probably a waste of his time to even think of her.<p>Back in '01 when my uncle was doing his startup, couple months before his site's launch we ran across a site that was VERY similar to what he was building. And here was a site that looked like it had been born out of my uncle's business plan. Few months later that site would fold--and we're still in business today.<p>Better question is HOW well is she doing what you planned to do.
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juwo
2007-04-26T18:37:27
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I appreciate your help.<p>What I am struggling with is, I am doing all the stuff - but people (at least on YC) dont get it:<p>1) links to 3 screenshots<p>2) simple cartoon diagrams with an analogy to shopping lists<p>3) a list of "what is in it for me" i.e. how juwo can help you.<p>4) links to demos for each of the above in 3).<p>Isnt all this good enough?
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Prrometheus
2007-04-26T18:38:58
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I've been looking at a Dell and at <a href="http://www.linuxcertified.com/">http://www.linuxcertified.com/</a>
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juwo
2007-04-26T18:41:41
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<a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=17117">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=17117</a>
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juwo
2007-04-26T18:43:52
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piratechick
2007-04-26T18:47:24
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<a href="http://www.teenwag.com">http://www.teenwag.com</a>
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piratechick
2007-04-26T18:48:51
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Pissedoff your idea is Reddit+myspace but stripped off all the goodies it was just a forum, We really worked on teenwag for longer
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piratechick
2007-04-26T18:50:54
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makeworldbetter
2007-04-26T18:51:36
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vlad
2007-04-26T18:52:07
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Nice attempt, but falls short. Everybody knows you can't jump in Doom. Clearly, they need to go back to the drawing board.<p>Just kidding. This is awesome!
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msgbeepa
2007-04-26T18:53:08
How To Backup Any Blog For Free
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juwo
2007-04-26T18:53:14
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Look what happens when you quote anything from the Bible?<p>they have downvoted you.<p>you now have -1 points. As I learned myself.
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usablecontent
2007-04-26T18:55:17
Joost Signs Advertising Deal With 31 Major Brands
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http://startupmeme.com/2007/04/26/joost-signs-advertising-deal-with-31-major-brands/
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mojuba
2007-04-26T18:56:58
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Still, there are good ideas that can be easily stolen. Apple's transparent case for Macs was a brilliant idea - in fact one of the factors that brought them back to the market. That was too good and too easy to steal. It happens.<p>Thinking "it's implementation, stupid" is too narrow-minded and Web2.0-ish.
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far33d
2007-04-26T18:59:39
Helio's Halo starting to dim
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http://thebrowser.blogs.fortune.com/2007/04/26/helios-halo-is-starting-to-dim/?source=yahoo_quote
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petervandijck
2007-04-26T19:04:06
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From the moment you think of it.
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pissedoff
2007-04-26T19:09:34
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brianmckenzie
2007-04-26T19:10:03
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I use InkScape for wireframes. It saves everything as SVG so the files are easy to send to people I'm collaborating with, and they can open in Illustrator if that's what they're using.<p><a href="http://inkscape.org">http://inkscape.org</a>
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ecuzzillo
2007-04-26T19:12:31
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It seems not entirely unreasonable for the SEC to enforce a situation where cheating means you and also possibly everybody else loses. It's a bit like a coach saying, if you don't shut up, everybody does fifty pushups; you're more motivated to shut up that way.
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abstractbill
2007-04-26T19:15:29
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I don't wireframe. I get an ugly-but-working <i>real</i> interface working and wait for people to complain.
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2007-04-26T19:19:54
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mattjaynes
2007-04-26T19:24:03
Tim O'Reilly's Recent Interview with Jeff Bezos on S3, EC2, and 37Signals (video)
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amichail
2007-04-26T19:25:40
What is the point of startup formalities (e.g., incorporating your company, having official job titles, etc.) before you have significant traffic?
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juwo
2007-04-26T19:27:12
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ok, I am going to do something different. please stay tuned.
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amichail
2007-04-26T19:32:47
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It is a bit strange that while it is so easy for anyone to get a web 2.0 startup going, there is still this expectation of having founders go through formalities such as incorporating their startup, assigning official job titles, etc.<p>Bloggers for example expect this and it is less likely that they would write about your startup without such formalities.<p>Can anyone shed light on this situation?
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mattjaynes
2007-04-26T19:35:02
Nine Lessons Learned about Creativity at Google by Marissa Mayer (audio)
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mattjaynes
2007-04-26T19:37:49
Entrepreneurial Leadership Qualities by Adaptive Path (audio)
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eduardoflores
2007-04-26T19:38:51
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I usually comment on the idea as soon as I get it, but for the prototype, I have to have something quite functional, with at least one feature that really impress or shows the point clearly.
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chandrab
2007-04-26T19:40:41
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not a good idea
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mattjaynes
2007-04-26T19:41:54
Secret to Successful Negotiations by Joel Peterson (audio)
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cwilbur
2007-04-26T19:43:07
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I don't. I use a MacBook Pro.<p>
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cwilbur
2007-04-26T19:44:07
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Pencil and paper to rough out ideas and proportions, and then HTML and CSS.
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Goladus
2007-04-26T19:44:39
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Being kind to your employees should really just be obvious. Unfortunately it is not. Many people with rank in a company treat others terribly, simply because they can. Probably they don't know any better, and haven't considered the downsides. Joel does a really good job of packaging ideas from books like Peopleware and Mythical Man-Month in a way average people will respond to. No matter what his software company does, that's valuable service.<p>I don't know all that much about bug tracking software, but at my last company the trouble ticketing system they used was a monstrosity (Peregrine Service Center). Everyone hated it. It had a sluggish java applet client. It was an enormous resource hog, it was buggy, and had a horrid interface. It took forever to log in and logged you out after 15 minutes of inactivity (taking over your desktop to inform you of that fact). I'd guess this load of crap was costing the company a fortune compared to a shrink-wrap solution like FogBugz. <p>Here's a picture of the interface: <a href="http://www.goladus.com/_.jpg">http://www.goladus.com/_.jpg</a>
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bsaunder
2007-04-26T19:46:22
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Denim (<a href="http://dub.washington.edu/denim/)">http://dub.washington.edu/denim/)</a> is kind of interesting. It's a Java Application with an "interesting" UI (seems a bit ironic). It's probably worth a few minutes of downloading and checking out to see if it suits your style.<p>Personally (and I'm more of developer than a designer), I'm with wammin, pencil paper or many white board sessions are where I start for the first few dozen iterations. The last thing I want is yet another tool to get in my way, providing more complexity than value. Once things settle down, or if you have to work with off-site people, electronic versions make a lot of sense.
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danw
2007-04-26T19:49:21
Future of Web Design - Great recordings of useful presentations on web design
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zaidf
2007-04-26T19:49:43
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photoshop
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ecuzzillo
2007-04-26T19:49:58
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I've had terrible, terrible experiences with Linuxcertified. <p>The stuff they put together themselves is totally shoddy. Things come apart and rattle around inside, the monitor connection starts to get fatigued and the screen develops snow, and it's heavier and thicker for less functionality than other laptops. <p>Much better to get a Dell preinstalled with Linux if they start doing that, or look at Emperor Linux: <a href="http://www.emperorlinux.com">http://www.emperorlinux.com</a><p>Much better experiences with them. I even got one for my girlfriend, who doesn't know anything at all about computers; they put Ubuntu on it and she adores it. <p>I'm currently on a Dell M70, which works fine; if I were to buy a new one, it'd be from Emperor.
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danw
2007-04-26T19:50:19
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Still works here, I checked the link when I read it on valley wag :D
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ryantmulligan
2007-04-26T19:51:17
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I use Emperor Linux. They are expensive but very responsive to customers.
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wammin
2007-04-26T19:51:59
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Sweet, thanks for the tip. I just installed inkscape and it looks awesome. I have been looking for a good drawing tool for linux, this might be it. Can't believe I never heard of it before!
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mattjaynes
2007-04-26T19:52:51
Y Combinator Day, Pt. 2
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cwilbur
2007-04-26T19:54:05
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There's a <i>lot</i> more to being a web design expert than learning to code in HTML and CSS. <p>So sayeth Jeffrey Zeldman:<p>Information architecture. Usability. Accessibility. Web standards. If you don't know about these things, stop designing websites until you have learned. Competence in graphic design is merely a baseline; it does not qualify you to create user experiences for the web.<p>Every time I think I can stop talking about these obvious, simple truths, some crazy bad 90s style train wreck hits me headlong and makes me weep anew.<p>(<a href="http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/18/cant-link-with-em/)">http://www.zeldman.com/2007/04/18/cant-link-with-em/)</a>
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mattjaynes
2007-04-26T19:55:38
When does imitation become duplication? (on YC clones)
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wammin
2007-04-26T19:59:07
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Ubuntu 7.04 on a HP Pavilion laptop (dual-boot with XP ... but I rarely boot into windows anymore). Ubuntu is great.
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usablecontent
2007-04-26T20:00:42
Will Michael Dell still shut Apple down and give money back to the Shareholders?
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http://startupmeme.com/2007/04/26/apple-announces-record-fiscal-quarter/
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natrius
2007-04-26T20:01:32
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I run Ubuntu on a MacBook, but as long as the laptop you buy has Intel graphics and wireless, you'll usually be fine. My last laptop was one of Dell's 12" widescreen models, and it worked fine for me.
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nostrademons
2007-04-26T20:02:27
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Debian on VMWare on an Acer Travelmate 4501.<p>I had trouble getting any Linux to work (well) on it, because of the wireless card. This was a couple years ago, and driver support for the Centrino's built-in wireless was pretty spotty for Linux. Rather than beat my head against it, I shelled out a couple hundred bucks for VMWare and mooch off the Windows wireless support.<p>VMWare gives a lot of other nifty benefits too, like I can burn my whole computer to DVD, swap it out, back it up, run multiple OSes, etc. Free imaging too; I have a VMWare image with a base Debian install, all preconfigured with my favorite settings, and when I start a new project I just pop that in and copy it.
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dawie
2007-04-26T20:06:36
Hi, I'm a Mac, and I'm Your Enterprise Computer
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davidw
2007-04-26T20:07:10
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I love the "web pro news doooooot coooom" voice bits at the beginning and end - it makes it sound like a simpson's parody of a news show.<p>The point about looking at things that <i>don't</i> change is good though, it's one of the things that Hal Varian says in "Information Rules", which is, by the way, an excellent book about economics.
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jmcantrell
2007-04-26T20:08:35
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then why did you even respond? the question was "what Linux laptops do you use for development?", not "how many of you are mac fanboys?"
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jmcantrell
2007-04-26T20:09:31
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Ubuntu Feisty on an IBM T42
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jchum
2007-04-26T20:09:46
Where do you guys find great designers for application design?
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mkull
2007-04-26T20:10:31
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bullshit.<p>ideas are cheap, implementation is hard.<p>I am very competent web app developer, with several major applications under my belt. While on the surface you might think you will be able to whip out a clone of one of the popular web apps easily (let alone a brand new idea) but you will find the devil is in the details. What makes or breaks those sites are the thousands of minute implementation level decisions which build up to make a quality application.<p>
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omouse
2007-04-26T20:10:58
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It feels more serious. Gives you a bit of fear, "Oh shit, if this company fails I'm going to look like a HUGE loser". That type of thing.
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jmcantrell
2007-04-26T20:11:14
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have you run into any problems with the built-in wireless? i know the older powerpc based models did not have a linux driver available for the wireless, but i'm not familiar with the intels.
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pg
2007-04-26T20:11:16
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keep it civil please
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zaidf
2007-04-26T20:12:10
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For some, it's personal liability. After you incorporate, your personal liability becomes lower than before incorporation--from what I know.
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piratechick
2007-04-26T20:24:29
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2007-04-26T20:26:16
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cwilbur
2007-04-26T20:27:23
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Incorporating protects your personal liability somewhat, in the event that your startup tanks. It can be a paperwork- and lawyer-intensive process, and if you wait until you're seeing significant traffic, you'll be converting from a sole proprietorship, which will make for even more paperwork and lawyering, at a time when you'd rather be focusing on technology.<p> In short, if your company fails, you want to be incorporated because it protects your personal assets. If your company succeeds, you want to be incorporated because it makes hiring and taxes and office leasing much simpler. Venture capitalists won't fund a sole proprietorship, and they certainly won't buy one.
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Tichy
2007-04-26T20:33:29
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That article falls a bit short, though. While probably there is no metaphysic power enforcing a karma balance, I like to think of the karma concept as simply another formulation of common wisdom. Some murderers get away with murder, but most probably don't, or if they do, they suffer from it etc. Likewise stealing ideas as a habit might eventually ruin your reputation and your career (although you might be filthy rich by the time).
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-26T20:35:03
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<i>you're more motivated to shut up that way.</i><p>You're not asking them to shut up. You're asking them to stop stealing from the shareholders. That's what options backdating is - stealing from the company's shareholders.<p>And by fining companies, the SEC is hurting those shareholders. It's important for the shareholders (you and me) to realize that. <p>It's like telling a thief: If the police catch you stealing: they're going to fine the victims as punishment. What kind of motivation is that?
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rokhayakebe
2007-04-26T20:36:51
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;)
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admp
2007-04-26T20:37:13
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Ubuntu feisty, IBM T43P
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rokhayakebe
2007-04-26T20:37:33
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hard reload
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amichail
2007-04-26T20:37:56
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I live in Canada so won't incorporating my company here make it more difficult to get funding in the US?
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jward
2007-04-26T20:38:00
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Incorporation was really easy and fairly cheap. My corporation has one shareholder, just me, and no real rules outside the formal ones needed to exist.<p>I did this for three main reasons. First, I wanted to experience the paperwork and hassles when I wasn't on a deadline. Second, it gives me a limited legal shield. It's easy to say 'Oh yeah, that was done by the company!' if I ever get sued. Finally, it's a good springboard if any of my ideas and implementations actually take off.<p>The structure is there <i>if</i> I need it. The cost to get everything formalized was a few hundred bucks and about a hundred bucks a year to keep going. Easy investment. It will save me one more headache when things take off.<p>Also, it's nice to have business cards that say CEO on them.
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walesmd
2007-04-26T20:39:55
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Pencil and paper
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amichail
2007-04-26T20:40:44
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How can a company fail? Can't you always pursue different web 2.0 apps over time? Or do you need to incorporate each one separately?
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vlad
2007-04-26T20:40:48
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Congrats!!!!
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dpapathanasiou
2007-04-26T20:40:54
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Linux Mint -- <a href="http://linuxmint.com/">http://linuxmint.com/</a> -- is a great distribution for laptops, particularly since they do a terrific job of supporting media and wifi cards "out of the box".
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jward
2007-04-26T20:43:57
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My guess is the same reason I felt compelled to click on the link. OS X is the best desktop Unix experience I have ever had. It has all the tools I use, all the power underneath, and it comes wrapped in a pretty pretty wrapper.<p>Linux to me has become a loose term for any Unix. I've heard it used to refer to any of the BSD's, Solaris, and even OS X.
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jey
2007-04-26T20:52:47
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Consider MacOS on a MacBook. I realize it's not Linux, but you avoid the trouble of installing and maintaining Linux.
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jward
2007-04-26T20:52:56
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I have to admit I'm a touch jealous but also excited. I can't wait to see what you and your group get going.
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mattmaroon
2007-04-26T20:53:11
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Thanks for all of the well-wishes. Pt. 2 was posted this morning.
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mattmaroon
2007-04-26T20:54:33
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Thanks! I'll do my best to let you all live vicariously.
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rjam
2007-04-26T20:56:20
How to get better results from Keywords selection
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ashu
2007-04-26T20:57:41
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Ubuntu Edgy on IBM T41P. Yes I know, I need an upgrade!
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eposts
2007-04-26T21:00:45
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Congrats and good luck!
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dss
2007-04-26T21:00:53
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I have a T41p, I think its quite adequate.
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cwilbur
2007-04-26T21:05:18
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A company fails if its liabilities exceed its assets, and there's no reasonable way the situation can change. <p>You can always pursue different web 2.0 apps; but it's probably a good idea to spin them off into separate companies.<p>Imagine a case where you have four projects. One of them really takes off, while the other three are just barely profitable, and you hire someone to help you with the project that's taking off. After six months you decide to let him go. He slaps you with a discrimination lawsuit. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.<p>If you have incorporated your companies separately, the only company that lawsuit can take down is the one that employed him, because the assets of the other companies can not be used to pay off the liabilities of that company. If you incorporated them all together, that lawsuit can take all of them down. And if you haven't incorporated any of your companies, <i>your</i> assets can be used to pay off that lawsuit. <p>And the reason it doesn't matter if it's true or not is that, even if you were completely above-board and non-discriminatory, it takes lawyer time to establish that in court, and lawyer time is not cheap.
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cwilbur
2007-04-26T21:07:47
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Because of the false assumption inherent in the question.<p>
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usablecontent
2007-04-26T21:07:57
Sony Launching Youtube Competitor Tomorrow
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hello_moto
2007-04-26T21:14:15
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This is interesting. Another YCombinator startup using Microsoft technology alongside of Xobni, Loopt. Microsoft is Dead?
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