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danw
2007-04-21T17:43:00
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I applied and didn't get an interview. Karma has very little impact on selection AFAIK. I believe I was let down by my idea: "It's a social network that..", but I've learnt my lesson and am proceeding in a slightly unexpected direction.<p>I know that danielha is having a YC interview, havent heard if he's in yet. Also a few others in the top 30 are waiting until wfp.
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tocomment
2007-04-21T17:51:10
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I find the syntax of Python very logical and intuitive (except for decorators, those seem magical). So that's why I prefer Python. And like others have said it's more mature and practical.<p>Perhaps start with Python but plan to take on another language in 2-5 years, when Ruby is more mature, or web hosting companies start supporting Scheme, or Haskell, etc.
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danielha
2007-04-21T17:53:56
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During the Q&A, an audience member asked which of the companies would Y Combinator jump on board to fund if YC existed at the time. Jessica said it'd most likely be Hotmail.
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dfranke
2007-04-21T17:54:46
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The OS isn't very smart about it because it quantizes everything along page boundaries and has no semantic understanding of the data. That works fine in the typical desktop-system case where you have 100 processes using a few megabytes each and at any given time only one or two are active. When you're running one server process that uses all the system's memory, you can be a lot more efficient by handling it yourself.
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danielha
2007-04-21T17:55:08
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Please use the request thread for future requests. There has only been a couple video submissions in the last few days; why create a page for those?
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russ
2007-04-21T18:03:28
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Ruby is, because Python sucks. Just kidding. But in all seriousness, Ruby is the shizzle.
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-21T18:21:10
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I thought this was good, especially if you watch The Pirates of Silicon Valley first: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15248">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15248</a>
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BrandonM
2007-04-21T18:28:28
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I'm sorry, but I just can't help but not feel bad for these people. If you set yourself up for a fall like that, you get what's coming to you.<p>I think my "perils" would be a bit more reasonable, like paying off my school loans, helping my parents out, and basic things like that. If I ever irrationally waste money as he did (and borrowed money, no less), I hope that the same outcome befalls me.<p>Another point is that he wasn't "suddenly rich" anyways. He was buying things with money borrowed against the company. I would think that a wise man would at least wait until the money is definitely there before buying multiple homes and throwing away money in various ways.
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-21T18:29:40
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Good post - and very true.<p>Almost every popular site is no more than 2-3 syllables, memorable, easy to pronounce, and a .com. Google, MSN, Yahoo, Digg, Reddit, GMail, the list goes on...<p>Too bad the squatters have got almost every other URL out there that satisfies these criteria :)
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-21T18:30:48
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My favorite quote:<p><i>CanSecWest organizers relaxed the rules Friday after nobody at the event had breached either of the Macs on the previous day.</i>
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juwo
2007-04-21T18:33:53
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I could not believe my ears!<p>Jessica said that on her first visit to Google she was so enamoured by the free food that she stole 4-5 granola bars in her purse.<p>When she visited, I am sure she was already a very wealthy woman. Why did she steal them?<p>It would be nice if she herself can tell us.<p> (I shall watch the rest later - but anything that is not juwo-ed, I dont feel like watching thru).<p>Update: To all you people who are voting this comment down, -4 points already, is it wrong that I bring it up? <p>=------------<p>Update 2: from <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15586">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15586</a><p>----------------<p>Actually it sounded like a confession and she said 'stealing'. If they are there for her to take, why hide them in her purse? I am not faulting her at all for 'taking' the granola bars. I am certain, I might have done the same as her - but I am unrich and I would have taken them openly, in full view and so I might be justified - I think.<p>My comment was solely a wonderment, an observation, that a wealthy millionaire needed to do that.<p>I must be the worst communicator - judging from my product (juwo).<p>Seriously, can you look beyond what was an unpopular comment? I was trying to understand why an intellectual and financial millionaire from the cream of society did that.<p>Do millionaires behave differently, or do they stay the same? Or worse?<p>
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BrandonM
2007-04-21T18:36:21
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Thank you. I was afraid I was in the minority here in thinking that his posts were a little off...
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jasonyan
2007-04-21T18:38:05
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I noticed the indexer broke sometime last week, but I had been too busy to debug the issue. I'll try to take a look at it sometime tonight.
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brett
2007-04-21T18:52:51
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The perils of being a moron with your money.
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vegashacker
2007-04-21T19:01:33
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The article mentions that one of the Reddits already left Conde Nast. Which one?
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wmorein
2007-04-21T19:38:00
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This excerpt from the book "Burn Rate" (about the early days of the first internet bubble) is interesting wrt this guy Hayden and his first venture:<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.06/es_burnrate_pr.html">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.06/es_burnrate_pr.html</a><p>Not particularly flattering.
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madanella
2007-04-21T19:38:04
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Wilson Sonsini has one. At least they did last fall. They gave me a package deal on incorporation and deferred payment for 6 months. wsgr.com
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papersmith
2007-04-21T19:40:09
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Better than c/c++/java, not as good as scheme/smalltalk. Just my opinion.
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-21T19:48:13
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When Steve & Alexis merged reddit w/ infogami (creating Not A Bug), they all received equal equity.<p>The word on the street is that the relationship wasn't as prosperous as the three had hoped. After a few months, Aaron stopped putting in long hours on reddit, and kind of dropped out. When the company was sold to Conde Nast, he didn't stick around.<p>Steve and Alexis are still doing the project full time, though.
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madanella
2007-04-21T19:53:38
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Yeah, you're right. I would be interested in hearing the other side of the story. Why would so many people be willing to risk their jobs to get rid of her? Either it was an impressive conspiracy or there were some real problems with how she behaved.
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jcwentz
2007-04-21T20:03:05
Ten Reasons You're Not a Billionaire
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markovich
2007-04-21T20:08:45
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One thing you should keep in mind is that you <i>have</i> to move on to C++ to become a good programmer. Start with any of the languages, then do C++ for a couple of years. Otherwise, you will never be able to work in a low level language, since you will be pampered by all the simplicity of these languages.
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Alex3917
2007-04-21T20:14:24
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I suspect it's an urban legend, but I heard that the day Priceline IPO'd one of the execs went down to the car dealership and bought a Porsche, and then crashed into a tree going 100mph and died on the way to the marina to buy a boat.
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fallintothis
2007-04-21T20:19:31
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It was an okay write-up, if not overly obvious. I hope he realizes that Google isn't the only source for desktop alternatives, webapps or otherwise. I (along with approximately everyone here, so I'll spare them the effort of listing the obvious candidates) can list several popular ones off the top of my head that beat Google, in my opinion. And not all of them are YCombinator startups either. Hooray for diversity!<p>GMail -- they aren't the only email provider, but certainly a leader. You can't really go wrong with using it, unless you have major privacy concerns. But then, why are you using email to begin with?<p>Google Reader -- There used to be feeds.reddit.com, but now that I check it seems to have been taken down; what a shame. I thought it was a really good idea, though it had been freaking slow when I last used it. Using Firefox or Opera, there are already means to just integrate feed-reading into the browser. I find that this has suffices. It's no more or less centralized than opening a webpage to use a reader when you're already in your browser in the first place.<p>Google Calendar -- kiko.com seems to still up and running, though of course they ran into trouble at the hands of Google Calendar. Then there's <a href="http://www.30boxes.com">http://www.30boxes.com</a> among several others.<p>Google Talk -- meebo.com doesn't suffer from problems he mentioned with Google Talk, so it actually beats Google in my opinion. There are others, but they don't seem to be as good as meebo, in my opinion.<p>Google Docs & Spreadsheets -- this is a tougher one when looking for actual online solutions, I think, just because the current online suites aren't as full-featured as the desktop equivalents. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_office_suites#Online_office_suites">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_office_suites#Online_office_suites</a> seems to be a good place to start, though. Plus, I hear those zenter.com guys will be killing PowerPoint. ;) If, however, you're looking for interoperability then OpenOffice.org works wonders.<p>Google Page Creator -- not mentioned in the post, but weebly.com seems to excel in this field anyway, so they're (more than) worth a mention.<p>Really, I think a lesson to be learned is that just as there are different apps you could use on the desktop, there are a lot of webapps to choose from. I would think this would be particularly apparent as ubiquity in desktop applications seems to be flawed. If it weren't, people would be more inclined to use pre-bundled software on Windows instead of OpenOffice, AbiWord, The GIMP, Pidgin (still have to get used to that), Trillian, Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera, and so on. Moreover, if it weren't flawed then some webapps might not exist! That, and the thinking that somehow there has to be an ultimatum between desktop & online applications seems fundamentally silly. Not to say that what can be implemented in one can't be implemented in the other to some extent, but you don't need to have all of your applications be solely on one platform. Freedom of choice and all that fun stuff. Certainly the internet provides a platform that has several distinct advantages to the desktop, but that doesn't mean you absolutely must lock yourself into it; though, more likely than not, as webapps continue to become more advanced the preference shifts mostly towards them instead of the desktop.<p>In the meantime, he and I are stating what most people should already know. And if they don't, that's probably why he did this story (and why I'm commenting about it) in the first place. I didn't really mean for this to turn into a list, but proof by counterexample is a quick & easy method in this case.<p>Poignant Summary: webapps are immensely useful, and you don't need Google to prove it.
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wmorein
2007-04-21T20:28:20
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The basic story actually happened in the 80s (see the second paragraph): <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Computer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Computer</a>
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SwellJoe
2007-04-21T20:29:14
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Paul told me to come here. I do everything Paul says. I'm not sure why I'm not rich yet.
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danielha
2007-04-21T20:29:46
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A strong grasp of concepts and logic with the ability to quickly pick up new languages makes you a good programmer. Learning many different languages will arguably make you a better programmer.<p>Knowing C++ is not a requirement to, nor has much to do with, being a good programmer.
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danielha
2007-04-21T20:42:59
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Mimicking a billionaire's personal lifestyle won't make you a billionaire. You'll be a billionaire when you do or create things collectively valued at a billion dollars.
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-21T20:43:07
New startup, Atten.tv lets you track video-watching habits
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Laurentvw
2007-04-21T20:50:57
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"YBombinator!™ is a concept that was conceived in real time by real people in an Internet chat room on April 17, 2007 @ 2:09AM Pacific Daylight Time."<p>They were talking about this on Justin.tv. I assume that's the chat room they're mentioning here. But anyway, I have no idea what this is... most likely a joke.
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danielha
2007-04-21T20:52:15
BuyYourFriendADrink.com - (NYC area only currently)
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SwellJoe
2007-04-21T20:55:18
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Sorry, this is just wrong.<p>There's so much in C++ that is specific to C++ that it doesn't even begin to make sense. If you want someone to learn OO, send them to Ruby or Smalltalk. If you want them to learn about performance and deep machine magic (pointers and such), send them to C. In either case, they can learn what they need to know without getting bogged down in a really obtuse pile of bolted-on features and syntax. It's not a bad systems language, but it's not a learning language and never will be.<p>And the whole "you'll never be able to blah blah" crap is just a hugely stupid idea. Don't think of your learning process as preparing to do something. Pick a project and start working on it--Open Source gives you access to millions of lines of code. There is no better way to learn to program than through working on programs. Be useful as soon as you possibly can, and you'll find that people are willing and eager to help you learn, because they see that the better you become the more useful you are to their project.
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Wintermute
2007-04-21T20:57:03
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Orrick is pretty badass. They work with Facebook, Pandora, Meebo, etc.<p><a href="http://www.orrick.com/practices/corporate/emergingCompanies/index.asp">http://www.orrick.com/practices/corporate/emergingCompanies/index.asp</a>
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gyro_robo
2007-04-21T21:01:17
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For background on <i>that</i>, watch Triumph of the Nerds -- it was on Google video; still available on torrents.
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gyro_robo
2007-04-21T21:07:32
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&gt; "There's way too much advertising and they're not really respecting their own community."<p>&gt; Wikipedia is another matter, he says. "We're not similar at all - you get involved in a community."<p>I don't recall ever being accused of being a sockpuppet on MySpace, and my <i>actual</i> friends are on there. That's way, way more of a community than a bunch of blowhard editors and page defacers. Plus no-one deletes my stuff except me.
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rms
2007-04-21T21:14:42
My namesake visits Cuba, convinces Cuba to use open-source on a national level, and records a song about Guantanamo
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gyro_robo
2007-04-21T21:17:53
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You will understand the hardware better if you learn C and Assembly. However, except for the syntactic sugar aspects of C++, it degenerates into a boondoggle because of all its weirdness and corner cases. The buggiest software has always been written in C++. It has the most complex language spec and is the hardest to debug because of those obscure corner cases. As programming consists mostly of debugging, extensive use of C++ <i>virtually</i> guarantees needless pain, wasted time, and bugs that won't go away.
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ashu
2007-04-21T21:20:35
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Gundersen-Dettmer has one.
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rms
2007-04-21T21:23:46
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Nope... it was a comment on a blog post and significantly more malicious than any of those TC forum posts.
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dfranke
2007-04-21T21:24:27
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Why does he need credibility? Tim's post lays out his whole case. Agree with him or don't.
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Alex3917
2007-04-21T21:30:40
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Ahh. So the goal of the site is to turn a three-martini lunch with friends or clients into an evening of drinking alone. Excellent.<p>But in all seriousness, it does seem like a solution in search of a problem. Kind of cool though as a unique gift, but once it loses its uniqueness then it's done.
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danw
2007-04-21T21:40:52
DayJet - "[web 2.0 is] a playing field so flat as to have no barriers to entry at all"
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wyday
2007-04-21T21:42:56
From Many Tweets, One Loud Voice on the Internet (NYTimes's Twitter profile)
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nostrademons
2007-04-21T22:02:38
Is this how to get banned for life from Y Combinator?
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2007-04-21T22:12:57
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far33d
2007-04-21T22:13:40
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen someone attach their name to.
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jward
2007-04-21T22:28:04
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Spend some time on the internet and that will change quickly. There's always enough stupid to go around and astound you.<p>Either this guy is full of bs and is an attention whore, or YC's interview process has just been validated. Anyone with ethics like those I wouldn't want to invest my time, money, and support into either.
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jward
2007-04-21T22:29:44
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Link for instant gratification: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=363">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=363</a><p>Also, there's a link at the bottom of the main page to Features. It does get read a lot.
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nostrademons
2007-04-21T22:41:26
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It's this guy: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=9965">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=9965</a><p>Personally, I think he was joking, but I can understand why PG banned him. Potential YC companies have to trust that YC is not going to blab their secrets across the net; YC's informal commitment to confidentiality is all they have, and a lot more than most VCs give. It's all rendered moot if one of the other applicants sells their secrets to the highest bidder. Joking or not, it's not something you want to suggest that you'd do, given how much it matters to others.
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bootload
2007-04-21T23:21:15
Creators, Consumers, and Whats 'Right?'
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Sam_Odio
2007-04-21T23:27:18
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What was he banned from? It looks like he's still posting on News.YC. I guess banned just means YC has decided not to invest in the guy, permanently?<p>At least it looks like he learned from his mistakes, props to him for being so honest about it.
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bootload
2007-04-21T23:29:59
How to Profile and Optimize Ajax Applications
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bootload
2007-04-21T23:32:54
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Going through the thinkature blog found this article. It's related to this article on 'profiling javascript' ~ <a href="http://blog.thinkature.com/index.php/2006/11/11/profiling-javascript-applications-with-venkman/">http://blog.thinkature.com/index.php/2006/11/11/profiling-javascript-applications-with-venkman/</a>
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sabat
2007-04-21T23:52:17
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This guy is sort of a sympathetic figure, I guess -- more than the NYT headline would suggest. It's a cautionary tale should any of us do well.
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juwo
2007-04-21T23:53:51
Allowing voting down of YC comments leads to group-think, Nazi-ism and suppressing of unpopular points of view. Do you agree?
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bootload
2007-04-21T23:54:10
Breaking Down LibraryThing vs. Amazon Tagging Analysis
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menloparkbum
2007-04-21T23:58:08
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Startups don't often hire recruiters,<p>This is not true. Usually one of the first people brought in after a series-A round of financing is some sort of VP-level manager whose job is to find other people to hire. This VP often was a recruiter, or hiring manager at some point, and usually hires some sort of recruiter to help him or her find people.
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jey
2007-04-21T23:59:32
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Neither introspection nor emotional experiences reveal truths about external reality. Emotional experiences carried out in the meat computer mounted on top of your torso do not provide any supporting evidence for the existence of Jesus.
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menloparkbum
2007-04-22T00:05:12
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Are you sure you want to work for a startup? In my experience, working at a startup is good for one thing: learning how to manage a bunch of random stuff all happening at the same time. <p>You don't get paid as well as if you just worked at google or yahoo, and as an employee, your stake is usually something like .25-.75% of the company, which means if the place gets bought for 100M, you'll make out with about $120K extra, 4 years down the road.<p>$120K isn't anything to scoff at, but keep in mind that startups pay a lower salary, and if you scored a job at yahoo for $90K instead of $60K at the startup, after 4 years you'd have the same amount of money.<p>Now, if you can swing a deal where you get 10% of the company, I'd go for it. But with a percentage like that, you're gonna be employee 3, co-founding, not just "have a job at a startup."
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juwo
2007-04-22T00:07:09
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I lost 30 points in three and a half days. When I look at the fate of my last comment, I realize what's going on<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15510">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15510</a><p>Not that I care too much. These karma points make monkeys in a cage scrambling for peanuts look more intelligent than us (future blog material for me!).
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waleedka
2007-04-22T00:12:51
Stupidest Web Feature Ever Created: Tag Clouds
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veritas
2007-04-22T00:13:07
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dramatic much? I haven't seen unpopular viewpoints voted down on YCNews yet, and perhaps your comment(s) were voted down because of reasons other than just being an unpopular point of view.<p>Lastly, using sensationalist terms like "Nazi-ism" and "klansman" detract from any point you're trying to make and equating (or attempting to) any members of YCNews with such terms is beyond ridiculous to put it nicely.
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menloparkbum
2007-04-22T00:15:42
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1) how do I get 1 million + users in 18 months?<p>2) how do I manage 1 million + users with the smallest team possible?<p>3) how do I turn 1 million users into at least 10 million dollars?<p>When I think of startups I'd like to be, I think of Winamp, hotornot.com, del.icio.us, reddit. These are companies that won big with only 1-5 people. I've been involved with startups that focused on getting a good series-A, hiring 20-30 people, then fucked around for 3 years and vanished off the face of the earth.<p>At this point, i think a better approach is to stay small and cash out for $10M in 18 months, rather than try to get big with an increasingly diminishing chance of success.<p>Of course if you're sure you've got a Google or YouTube, the "traditional" silicon valley venture-backed startup isn't a bad way to go. However it is kind of a bummer when you sell your thing for $1.4 billion and 600 million of it goes right to your investors... Would rather be Justin Frankel than Chad Hurley.
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juwo
2007-04-22T00:19:52
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Banned? Wasn't rms selected at this most recent SFP?
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rms
2007-04-22T00:23:40
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Sometimes they're useful. I really like Pornotube's tag cloud.
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rms
2007-04-22T00:25:25
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"I guess banned just means YC has decided not to invest in the guy, permanently?"<p>Yes... I was probably a bad candidate for Y Combinator anyways, so it was a good decision on their part.
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ingenium
2007-04-22T00:25:27
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But you still never answered the question of why you have faith in the Christian god as opposed to the gods other religions.
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far33d
2007-04-22T00:28:43
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Nazi-ism? Congratulations, you've just godwin'd YC News.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law</a>
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waleedka
2007-04-22T00:28:45
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I tend to agree with the author, and I find tag clouds too cluttered. Some might argue that it's a good way to see what the web site/blog is about, but sure there must be a better way to do that. If my blog is mostly about, say, technology then you can easily see that from the blog name, tag line, or the titles of the top two posts. I cannot see why tag clouds got so popular!!! Am I missing something?
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dawie
2007-04-22T00:29:41
Social Networks Are The New Porn
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weel
2007-04-22T00:31:38
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Metaweb (freebase.com) uses (or rather, is) a database, but not a relational one. Those comments that implicitly identify "database" with "RDBMS" may become outdated sooner than their authors expect.
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npk
2007-04-22T00:32:38
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Though you didn't ask for it, here's my advice: try to put yourself in other peoples shoes. Jessica's not saying she stole granola bars, because they are there for her to take. She's actually complementing google, and telling her audience they are lucky to be working for such a great employer.<p>Why should you listen to me? You've got a cool-sounding product, my guess is people here have the ability to make it better. If you just chill a little bit, that might actually happen.
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bootload
2007-04-22T00:45:09
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Hands up who makes mistakes? I do, usually technical, a lot social but some mistakes reveal more about character. Character is lot harder to judge than skillset, passion and being smart. Character means you can trust this person, know that they will do what they say they will do. Do the right thing.<p>Two instances I've seen where someones character has been exposed, one resulted in sacking (trying to hack the server & being caught, then police being called) and the other - hacking (after being in the company for 1 day, hacked root, added themselves to wheel & logged in externally via ssh, ordered software on company money). What was their motive? Curiosity, greed? I don't know. I do know I wouldn't want to work with them. You simply can't trust them to do the right thing.<p>From the looks this bloke is pretty young & eager. [0], [1] Reading the post does expose a character flaw (we all have them), <i>impatience</i>. More and more I'm reading of people getting frustrated in not getting acceptance as if this is their only shot. Now or never. This is simply not the case. In fact if you think this I really question you <i>determination</i> and resolve.<p>Now back to '<i>cash for comments</i>'. Inside information for the highest bidder. So what was the cash for? Well to start the startup of course. Just another way to raise money? Well it's pretty stupid, ill planned and looking at the responses out of step in what's expected. And to do it on such a high-profile site with your name. That's punishment enough.<p>Maybe there ought to be another item added in, 'Startup Mistakes'. [2] Perhaps what should be added is something about <i>"how you respond to failure & setback"</i>. What is the right way? What is the wrong way explaining what you have to loose. <p>Reference<p>[0] bootload, 'What's the best thing you could be working on, and why aren't you?': <p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=13193">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=13193</a><p>[1] In a post I added on what 'best is the best idea you <i>could</i> be working on' rms gave this reply ~<a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=13193">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=13193</a><p>Reading the reply may give you a better insight into his <i>character</i> and help you determine his motives.<p>[2] pg, 'The 18 mistakes that kill startups'<p><a href="http://paulgraham.com/startupmistakes.html">http://paulgraham.com/startupmistakes.html</a>
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gyro_robo
2007-04-22T00:49:39
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[2] pg, 'The 18 mistakes that kill startups'<p>Looks like it's time to make that _19_.
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jaggederest
2007-04-22T00:53:22
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Why do you always post footnotes? It's starting to bother me a lot.<p>Especially when you cite yourself. First.
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bootload
2007-04-22T00:56:19
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'<i>... Especially when you cite yourself. First. ...'</i> <p>If you follow the post thread you'll see why. It's been asked here ~<a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=14404">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=14404</a> to death.<p>'hint': Meaning Economy ~ <a href="http://jeremie.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry070328-000042">http://jeremie.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry070328-000042</a>
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jaggederest
2007-04-22T01:02:43
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Self quoting is bad form any time, it's worse when you do it recursively. Especially to boost your own relevance in google.
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gyro_robo
2007-04-22T01:03:05
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Funny you should bring that up! Today when I was jogging I realized your chosen project name sounds like an antisemitic breakfast beverage: Jew-O, for Nazi astronauts. Cf. The Toyota Incubus (there's a story floating around about a product named Incubus which had to be recalled at the last minute. The culprit is alternately either Toyota, Nike, or Reebok).
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gyro_robo
2007-04-22T01:05:32
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We're just a bunch of people who want to do a start-up so we don't have to slave away for The Man. We're not, like, Gandhi, you know.
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bootload
2007-04-22T01:07:18
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Do you have anything meaningful to add? I do ~ <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=11826">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=11826</a>
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jward
2007-04-22T01:22:05
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I really like the fact that comments count for something here. In fact I'd be happy if posts counted for nothing and only comments did. It promotes and rewards discussion, which is what I come here for. Articles are good and all, but the real value of this site is in its users.<p>I like to believe that the majority of people are like myself and vote up or down on things for the same reasons. Disagreeing with opinions never enters into my mind as a reason to vote down. I vote comments down when they are highly off topic, rude, or personal attacks. I use this in hopes that it sets the tone for YC News. That is, as a place for mature discussion and education about startups, not one where kittens with pancakes on their heads or flamers with four letter vocabularies are welcome.<p>To be blunt and honest, it is the content of your comments that is causing them to be voted down. The comment in specific that you linked to came across as a personal attack and quite rude. I'm sure this was not your intent, but that's how it came across. This comment you posted referring to members of the community as monkeys also comes across as rude. You may have valid points and questions, but you need to find better ways of saying them. When you attack the people rather than the idea, it doesn't reflect well.
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bootload
2007-04-22T01:22:09
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'<i>... if my blog is mostly about, say, technology then you can easily see that from the blog name, tag line, or the titles of the top two posts. ...'</i><p>One thing in favour of tag-clouds I've found is they are finer grained. If the knowledge domain is 'foo' you can quickly work out how the vocab is skewed to a particular subject. This is useful, unless they are spammed.
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jward
2007-04-22T01:31:14
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If you find what you're missing, please tell me. I really don't get it either. It's a list of common keywords arranged in a magic cloud with visual intensity feedback. It's good for a quick overview of what the site is about.<p>But I think the title and tagline of a blog is a better indication. A tag cloud is just a visual cacophony of symbols my mind tries to parse unsuccessfully. If I'm on a blog I haven't been to before it's generally because I came from here or google. In that case, I'm there for a specific keyword or reason already.<p>The big thing that really bugs me about tag clouds is when I click on one and it leads me to another. That's just not helpful.
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juwo
2007-04-22T01:43:25
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personal attack? rubbish!<p>To say my comment was "quite rude" baffles me.<p>I was directly commenting on something she said in the video. Would you disallow that?<p>"referring to members of the community as monkeys" <p>Where was that?? Do you not understand my point?<p>-------------------<p>Actually it sounded like a confession and she said 'stealing'. If they are there for her to take, why hide them in her purse? I am not faulting her at all for 'taking' the granola bars. I am certain, I might have done the same as her - but I am unrich and I would have taken them openly, in full view and so I might be justified - I think.<p>My comment was solely a wonderment, an observation, that a wealthy millionaire needed to do that.<p>I must be the worst communicator - judging from my product (juwo).<p>Seriously, can you look beyond what was an unpopular comment? I was trying to understand why an intellectual and financial millionaire from the cream of society did that.<p>Do millionaires behave differently, or do they stay the same? Or worse?
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Goladus
2007-04-22T01:45:31
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A demo works. Explaining -how- you're going to make it easy to use might be useful as well.<p>Describe a real hypothetical user (three if possible) using the software. Describe in as much detail as possible, and then explain at some level how your technology will allow you to accomplish this.
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rms
2007-04-22T01:50:38
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I saw him speak at Pitt a couple years ago... the guy is crazy, his beliefs don't quite add up, but at least he is fighting the good fight. In the end, the Free Software moderates want the same open-source utopia as rms.
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juwo
2007-04-22T01:55:37
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Actually it sounded like a confession and she said 'stealing'. If they are there for her to take, why hide them in her purse?<p>I am not faulting her at all for 'taking' the granola bars. I am certain, I might have done the same as her - but I am unrich and I would have taken them openly, in full view and so I might be justified - I think.<p>My comment was solely a wonderment, an observation, that a wealthy millionaire needed to do that.<p>I must be the worst communicator - judging from my product (juwo).<p> Seriously, can you look beyond what was an unpopular comment? I was trying to understand why an intellectual and financial millionaire from the cream of society did that.<p>Do millionaires behave differently, or do they stay the same? Or worse?
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nickb
2007-04-22T02:06:02
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paul, could you add some words from the story's title to the title tag for the page? So that when we bookmark, it's not always the same "YC Startup News"...
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rms
2007-04-22T02:08:26
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One thing I like about YC News is that it's rare for comments to get voted down, whereas on reddit and digg it happens like crazy.<p>Oddly enough, it seems like juwo is the only community member that gets voted down a lot. I'm not sure what that says. It takes a lot for me to vote a comment down and I don't think juwo really deserves it.
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gustaf
2007-04-22T02:09:40
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lkozma
2007-04-22T02:12:54
Fisheye view zooming for tabs (Firefox extension). Alternative to scrolling
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dejb
2007-04-22T02:18:12
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What a ridiculous proposition! I disagree strongly! I'm going to vote this article down...
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omouse
2007-04-22T02:37:35
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I vote up the submission that asks for voting down of submissions.
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omouse
2007-04-22T02:41:13
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Hiding in the purse == saving for eating later<p>Who really cares if she took some granola bars? It has nothing to do with the ideas she presents and your comment sounded like an ad hominem attack (probably).
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omouse
2007-04-22T02:42:28
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See my reply here: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15593">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=15593</a>
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nostrademons
2007-04-22T02:44:10
Video interview with Reddit founders, pre-acquisition
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mattjaynes
2007-04-22T02:46:46
Classic: Code like a girl
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brett
2007-04-22T02:48:23
Feld Thoughts - Fear Is The Mindkiller
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mynameishere
2007-04-22T03:09:18
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Web-based OS. LOL:<p>CPU multitasking ... OS Scheduler ... Threads as implemented by C++ or whatever ... Browser ... Javascript Interpreter ... Faked-out single-threaded multi-thread emulator ... "Browser-based OS".<p>And of course, if you want an "application" in your "OS" you can always fire up Sun HotSpot.
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waleedka
2007-04-22T03:19:40
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Sure, but is it worth the noise it adds to the site? And do visitors actually see anything but the top 2 or 3 words?
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