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Readmore
2007-04-10T15:39:15
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They are building a global brain. Skynet here we come.
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Readmore
2007-04-10T15:40:10
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I take it that means they just aren't worth much ;)
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Mistone
2007-04-10T15:41:20
11th Annual Webby Awards Nominees & Winners
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blader
2007-04-10T15:41:47
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Yes, but he wants me to buy penis enlargement pills for some reason.
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danw
2007-04-10T15:43:28
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Bah, evil linkbait titles :D I was expecting there to be an actual valuation and a method rather than a shrug.
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jkush
2007-04-10T15:44:48
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Heh. I didn't know YC was into that kind of thing. How interesting.
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litepost
2007-04-10T15:45:53
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SXSW had at least two decent talks on web apps, including their financial performance.<p>- <a href="http://www.carsonified.com/sxsw.pdf">http://www.carsonified.com/sxsw.pdf</a> - <a href="http://particletree.com/sxsw/autopsy.zip">http://particletree.com/sxsw/autopsy.zip</a><p>
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notabel
2007-04-10T15:46:00
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I've got a Sieve script running on my IMAP server, set to redirect to my phone any message from an address containing any of the strings "pg@", "tlb@", "rtm@", "x@", or "ycombinator".<p>I also have my email here set to a subaddress, which is also included in the above forward. Points to anyone who understands Sieve semantics well enough to predict whether the message will get matched and redirected twice.<p>Sieve happens in realtime :-)
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jkush
2007-04-10T15:49:46
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I've got you beat. I built a robot last night (runs on Lisp and parts from Radio Shack) that constantly monitors the internet, my phone lines and packets going out of YC's office. As soon as my robot picks up a signal of interest it beams the messages directly to my HUD that I've been wearing ever since I sent my app in.
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Alex3917
2007-04-10T15:49:47
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Emails fall through.<p>This isn't survivor. Get back to work. :-)
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notabel
2007-04-10T15:53:02
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Hurray for over-engineered solutions! While you're at it, though, you might as well just have your robot slip inside YC and grab a copy of Arc--then it wouldn't just be Lisp, it would be Hundred Year Lisp!
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juwo
2007-04-10T15:54:41
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what are you saying? I think you did not understand my suggestion.
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enomaly
2007-04-10T15:55:40
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You may want to take a look at <a href="http://www.enomalism.com,">http://www.enomalism.com,</a> it provides migration to and from Amazon EC2 as well as the ability to create your own geo-targeted cloud.
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mariandumi
2007-04-10T15:55:42
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I'm in love with my Junk Email box today too. Nothing gets deleted without proper consideration.
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timg
2007-04-10T16:01:11
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What a tease!
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vlad
2007-04-10T16:03:14
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I used MyIE2, the precursor to Maxthon by the same company, on my old computer. Is it very handy and I never even considered upgrading to Maxthon.<p>On this computer, IE7 has built-in tabbed browsing, and my mouse has back-forward mouse buttons on it. I am sticking with IE7 for Internet Explorer Firefox 2 for Mozilla.
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Readmore
2007-04-10T16:04:00
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Haha sorry guys, I was just using their title for the article. I fixed it now ;)
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jey
2007-04-10T16:07:11
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I'm 300 meters away from YC in Mountain View, so the email doesn't have to travel as far through the intertubes to get to my inbox. Beat that!
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rebecca_d
2007-04-10T16:09:15
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11. To avoid an asshole boss (co-founder) try not being an asshole yourself!<p>12. To avoid an asshole boss (co-founder) try not to look for reasons he could be an asshole. <p>Slightly tongue-in-cheek, but seriously, most disagreements are the result of poor communication, not because one person is the villain, and one, the victim-that one person is right and one is wrong. Furthermore, 90% of our communication is done with our body. If we are suspicious and judgemental of new people, they will read this in how we move and posture, and respond in kind, resulting in the precise situation we are trying to avoid. <p>This doesn't mean to ignore warning signs, but to focus primarily on whether this person is willing to collaborate and compromise with you as you work towards your goals. I find a recommendation from someone I don't know (Linkedin) to not be particularly helpful as I don't know this person's point of reference. Perhaps this person is always looking for assholes.
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Benja
2007-04-10T16:10:31
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Not new, but useful. Thanks for reminding me of this!
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blader
2007-04-10T16:12:37
Save Your Startup Money: Open Source Alternatives
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danw
2007-04-10T16:15:36
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I'm about a 100ms away from there so presumably you'll know before I do
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jganetsk
2007-04-10T16:17:50
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<i>Doesn't have to</i>. But it sure might not get routed that way.
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jhuang
2007-04-10T16:25:32
Is Quality of The Team The Most Important Thing?
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blader
2007-04-10T16:27:04
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I'm reminded of GMail's infinity+1 schtick when I think about Facebook's valuation. It's growing too fast for any valuation to be valid for more than a couple of weeks. Yahoo found this out the hard way.
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danw
2007-04-10T16:29:38
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Sorry, didnt mean you. I was referring to the original article.
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nostrademons
2007-04-10T16:38:04
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I actually noticed the opposite pattern: about 95% of the time, the double-check caught careless mistakes and I ended up with a higher score for it. Perhaps it was because of my typical test-taking strategy: I'd race through the questions and answer every one immediately, then I'd go back and double-check all the steps to make sure I hadn't done anything silly.<p>I did notice that my score tended to decrease if I triple- or quadruple-checked my answers, though.
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nostrademons
2007-04-10T16:41:11
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GMail. It refreshes for me.<p>Other than that - I'm trying to get some work done so I can get home at a reasonable hour and work some more on my startup.
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juwo
2007-04-10T16:41:29
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<a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=11221">http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=11221</a>
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blader
2007-04-10T16:43:06
bad link, ignore this post
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jslogan
2007-04-10T16:43:37
Your price may be too low, increasing it may spur sales
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divia
2007-04-10T16:44:43
Hottest Startups
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2007-04-10T16:45:14
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ivan
2007-04-10T16:48:20
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It's quoted from Ivanhoe isn't it? :)<p>Thanks Matt.
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juwo
2007-04-10T16:49:38
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simply a google search. what a waste of 12 minutes of my time!
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sumantra2
2007-04-10T16:54:49
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"We're about to send the first batch of emails,".. This was April 09. Has anyone recvd any updates?
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blader
2007-04-10T17:05:26
Why YouOS et al Are Screwed
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blader
2007-04-10T17:05:38
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Excuse the tone, I was cranky when writing.
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mattculbreth
2007-04-10T17:08:08
Breadcrumb navigation is increasingly useful
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volida
2007-04-10T17:08:39
The wait is over! Download Joost!
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jey
2007-04-10T17:08:45
How does news.yc order comments? They seem to randomly reorder themselves between reloads.
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rms
2007-04-10T17:08:48
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YouOS et al miss that a complete Web Desktop Environment can make computing fundamentally easier for people uncomfortable using Windows computers by eliminating all the useless futures of modern OS's that interfere with performing useful tasks.
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volida
2007-04-10T17:11:24
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I noticed that too. Especially if you update 2-3 times your comment...Sometimes it goes on top, then lower...
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notabel
2007-04-10T17:13:28
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I've always taken this to be a feature, to promote development of comment threads beyond just the first few.
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blader
2007-04-10T17:14:59
My Other (super candid) Interview with Eric Schmidt
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theoutlander
2007-04-10T17:16:24
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Goooooood Moooorning! Still no mail....?
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mstefff
2007-04-10T17:17:14
19 Year Old Takes a Stab at Web 2.0 With a Social Site For Computing and Technology.
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mukund
2007-04-10T17:20:52
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I got a mail from GMAIL team asking me not to abuse Gmail by constantly refreshing it :D
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theoutlander
2007-04-10T17:21:45
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Gmail doesn't refresh that often! I think there is still a lag....keeeep refreshing!
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danw
2007-04-10T17:22:05
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It's still invite only beta, isnt it?<p>I have a few invites in case anyone wants one.
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zaidf
2007-04-10T17:23:19
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Congratulations! You've got a great start - build on it.
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KatherineHagman
2007-04-10T17:23:25
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Agree with the Gmail people -- although I love it, the notifier can't be trusted with important matters!
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theoutlander
2007-04-10T17:23:26
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Hold up Hold up! The data will travel straight to Seattle first before getting re-routed! So even if you guys are 100ms away ... the data pipes are facing in my direction :-D
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volida
2007-04-10T17:23:33
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i agree, that was my thought too
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mattculbreth
2007-04-10T17:24:13
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So is it any good? Seems like an interesting thing at least. Then again, it sounds like TV (which I like) over the computer (which I like) so I guess I'm predisposed to liking it.
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danw
2007-04-10T17:25:46
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Spot on. Most of the people taking computer science at my university dont care about hacking away at interesting problems. They're all here because they know that they can get a high paying job in The City when they graduate.
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joshwa
2007-04-10T17:26:12
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maybe after he's finished sending out the emails, we'll get ajax upvoting and commenting so it'll be easier to find your place again...
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blader
2007-04-10T17:26:18
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Let's all refresh at the same time and crash Google!
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mstefff
2007-04-10T17:26:46
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Thank you. Very nice comment.
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danw
2007-04-10T17:28:10
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I'm not a big fan of it but you should take a look at it and make your own mind up. I didnt like skype either but that became popular.
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volida
2007-04-10T17:29:14
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it's does not seem to be invite only anymore
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danw
2007-04-10T17:30:00
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From the page you're linking to:<p><i>Hello! Before you can sign in and download Joost, you need an invitation from another user.</i>
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joshwa
2007-04-10T17:32:31
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Really excellent article, helpful for narrowing which perceived VC questions to answer about the competitive landscape and your competitive advantage. Thanks!
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nonrecursive
2007-04-10T17:33:27
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it seems like, within "top level" comments with the same number of points, the comments switch between sorting ascending and descending by... a staggering of the time posted.<p>having more points puts you at the top of the comment list.<p>So, for example, this comment will have one point when i first post it. Since it's the latest comment, it will at first display topmost. When the next person posts a comment, my comment will display last and his will display first. Then when I refresh mine will display first and his last.
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volida
2007-04-10T17:34:59
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oh, I made a mistake. It seems its cookie-persistant. sorry everyone..<p>to correct this, i can give invites to anyone who wants,
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mukund
2007-04-10T17:35:17
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Did PG read this posting? <p>"Just try to take a released feature away from customers and see how pissed off they get." (37signals.com) <p>Here we are all waiting for that email and its more or less like this ;-)
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brlewis
2007-04-10T17:38:45
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My unscientific impression is that it depends on recency, score, and author's karma, for each comment in the thread.
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wensing
2007-04-10T17:39:17
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I read someone recently refer to startups as the NBA of high-tech (luring kids away from college). If that's the case, does that make this draft day? It would appear to have some of the feel.
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chasing
2007-04-10T17:40:32
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I kind of agree with what I think rms is saying:<p>YouOS (in particular) seems to be barking up the wrong tree by simply emulating a desktop-style environment in a web browser. The web has shown us that there are much more sophisticated and intuitive ways of organizing the display of (and interaction with) several applications at the same time. All of the crufty GUI just makes the experience worse...
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zach
2007-04-10T17:40:42
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I liked the Brad Bird interview, but I was totally blown away by the Spline Doctors' podcast with Andrew Stanton. I was like, yeah, the Nemo guy, I guess he's a writer... okay, so I didn't know his backstory with Pixar or anything about him and it just was an amazing interview to me.<p>Anyway, I wanted to explain the emphasis I put on just how much you want to really desire to create what you're making, to be dying to get it in front of people. So here's the part I wanted to excerpt from the interview that really gives you folks in News.YC-land the sense of how driven you want to be:<p>---<p>Interviewer Andrew Gordon: What would you say is the hardest thing about directing an animated movie?<p>Andrew Stanton: The hardest thing about directing an <i>animated</i> movie is keeping yourself excited about it. It's hard enough to make the crew excited about it, but keeping yourself excited about it -- trying to remind yourself why you wanted to do it. Because it's all about the details once you really start making the movie.<p>It's no different than building a house, or, building a really extravagant mansion. There's a million details that you have to spend more time with after the bigger ideas of where the rooms are going to go and how it's going to be structured, and it can get you kind of bogged down.<p>Joe Ranft used to have this great expression that there's always a point during the making of a movie where there's sort of the Columbus where-is-the-land moment, where everybody on the boat is going "You promised us the land. Where's the land? We're not seeing it!"<p>And people get bogged down in all the minor problems or the major problems that won't go away, and it's all justified -- it's all legitimate to have that response.<p>So, for me, to prevent that is to get really, really picky about what story you're going to tell up front. And this is my opinion, and it's not a rule. But if I have an idea that I kinda like, then I don't want to do it. If I have an idea that affects every fiber of my being, like "I want to see that movie made whether I make it or not" -- it's like that idea <i>has</i> to get on the screen -- that's a real good quality to start with. Because it's going to get attacked for the next four years. And there's going to be, sometimes, weeks or months where nothing seems to be going right.<p>[...]<p>It's like looking for oil or something -- it's like "where can I find something that has enough fuel that's going to keep me going for years?" Because there's going to large stretches of time where nothing is working, nobody's happy, everybody thinks that the sky is going to fall, and what's going to get me out of bed is just because that idea still <i>has</i> to be on the screen.<p>So I want that when I'm going to go into battle. Because it's going to be battle. So if I don't have that going in, then I won't go into it -- I won't make that movie. And I'm starting to try and insist on that with other filmmakers here at Pixar, because I just know the benefits of it.
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danw
2007-04-10T17:41:19
Hype-Off: Twitter versus Justin.tv
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jey
2007-04-10T17:44:22
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Nah, just right click the upvote link and click "Open Link in New Tab". (in firefox anyway)
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irakundji
2007-04-10T17:45:11
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ABSOLUTELY! The education system as we know it is a socialization process. I makes mindless zombies very well but I fear that it swishes personalization and creativity in process. Is it not a wonder that those kids who walk to the beat of their own drum in school becomes successful and those who always followed the rules become great paper pushers? That's what school does, it teaches us to seek an approval that's external to us (ie. teacher's approval, grades, awards) and not a sense of internal approval (ie. pride, enjoyment, satisfaction). We all get at least nearly 2 decades of this socialization process to be pounded into a mold (whether we're round, or rectangle or rhombus, we're all going into that square hole, because that's the only way to succeed in school, and if we don't, we're deemed a freak and forced to be medicated and the like). It's that same mold that we must break free from if we're to draw into the inner creativity, that inner peace. I think after we've done so, we'll all be a lot happier and much more productive. --- Sorry for the ranting, it's a touchy subject.
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blader
2007-04-10T17:45:15
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I agree, and YouOS isn't alone in this. Emulation of the desktop style environment practically defines the WebOS space. In my opinion, it adds no value at all.<p>
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brilliant post.
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2007-04-10T17:46:48
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Paul Graham is dead.<p>Dead in the sense that I won't read his ever increasing b<i></i><i>sh</i>t anymore.<p> --larsw
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mukund
2007-04-10T17:48:23
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Looks more like an Asshole tracker squad :D hey, it could be another idea to start this company by collecting Asshole profiles and showing up on request :D
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2007-04-10T17:50:22
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Hey! I'm Jason, the guy that wrote Twiddla. Yesterday will go down as a pretty good day! We got a little over 1000 signups and tons of great feedback.<p>Tichy, the drawing is done with a Canvas tag and the IECanvas hack to get it to work in IE. Drawing with DHTML is really nothing new, but until recently you had to do it with tons of colored DIV tags. SVG and Canvas make life a lot easier for something like this.<p>yaacovtp, Thus far it seems the number one use case for this thing is to facilitate the drawing of balls onto things. Followed by tic tac toe. Followed by work. I bet it will become a bit more useful once we fix some of the major issues people found yesterday, and add some new features to make it more suited to its intended task of team collaboration.<p>Anyway, I'd encourage folks to check back in a few weeks to see if we've made any progress. Thanks again for all the great feedback!<p>Jason
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akkartik
2007-04-10T17:52:01
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Not at all; I didn't find it amiss. The tone was similar to jwz on Groupware: <a href="http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html">http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html</a>
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joshwa
2007-04-10T17:53:22
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Thanks, that'll do for now. (why didn't I think of that?)
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wensing
2007-04-10T17:55:56
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This is the wrong day for a thread that begins with 'The wait is over!'.
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joshwa
2007-04-10T17:56:03
Is the New Delicious FF Extension Recording Clickstream Data? (A New Alexa?)
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patryn20
2007-04-10T17:56:56
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I have to admit I am a little unclear on one point: Does everyone who applied get emailed or just the ones accepted to the interviews? I would hate to be waiting for something that will never come.<p>Darn you, Godot! You wasted two hours of my life! :-)
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costar
2007-04-10T17:57:36
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Dead or not, the company is buying up a lot of property. <a href="http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=AE40DC75921BEB714FCC9D697D42A6F2">http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=AE40DC75921BEB714FCC9D697D42A6F2</a>
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jaed
2007-04-10T17:58:34
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invite please :-)
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joshwa
2007-04-10T18:00:13
What Kind Of Web Page Are You? Users decide in the first 100ms
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abstractbill
2007-04-10T18:02:02
Something pg said over on reddit
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2007-04-10T18:02:43
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I really wanted to like it ... but it felt more like ramen (which I like) and ice cream (which I like). The combination was unpleasant.
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FritFrut
2007-04-10T18:02:58
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"designed for hackers"??? Haha, what a load of... You could look at the many definitions of 'hacker', and none of them precludes hackers on Windows. But, if you believe that 'real hacking' is wasting hundreds of hours trying to make your graphics card work, then yes, by no means use the free one, and consider yourself 'a real hacker', when you manage to get the sound out of your soundcard.
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theoutlander
2007-04-10T18:06:37
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There are still 12 hours and 54 minutes remaining! .... besides the first batch might already be out ... is there gonna be a second?
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2007-04-10T18:11:47
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Oh did any hacker intercept the mail? Its rater dangerous if that happens ;-)
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dpapathanasiou
2007-04-10T18:12:07
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Could you email one to me?<p>My address is denis.papathanasiou (at-sign) gmail.com
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dpapathanasiou
2007-04-10T18:12:48
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Could you email one to me?<p>My address is denis.papathanasiou (at-sign) gmail.com
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abstractbill
2007-04-10T18:14:15
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I had a microcomputer when I was nine years old, in early 84. I was a bit late with email too (92 I think), but I was certainly using the web in 95 (my first real job was in the summer of 96, writing a web-based vertical search engine for British Telecom - I remember being disappointed I wasn't doing something more futuristic, so the web was old news to me by that point).<p>My only problem with this is all the things that I wasn't aware of at all until completely non-technical friends told me about them. I'm thinking of stuff like hotOrNot and MySpace particularly. Perhaps pg's comment applies at a higher level - broad technologies, rather than the uses to which people will put them?<p>In any case, I'd be really interested to know what people here are using today that they think everybody else will be using years from now...
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jey
2007-04-10T18:14:40
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Yes, every team receives an email, although not necessarily all founders. Might just be the founder whose account you applied under.
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dfranke
2007-04-10T18:15:12
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How high would you jump if I sent you an SMS right now?
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a5huynh
2007-04-10T18:15:36
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yeah, can someone please answer that?<p>I wouldn't want to be waiting for easter eggs on Christmas.<p>edit: nvm
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melhorn
2007-04-10T18:16:39
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Ruby (on Rails) for the web interface, I love it! :-)<p>Java for data mining, image manipulation and data shoveling, like in xml transformation. You can't really use Ruby for this... We also chose a servlet for one of our web services for performance reasons.
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patryn20
2007-04-10T18:18:41
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Memcache your dictionary if you can. Or dump it into a MySQL heap table. That will speed it up a lot.<p>Seriously, though, looping through the dictionary is really a bad solution. Maybe reading the dictionary into an associative array and matching on index or something like that would be a better idea for speed. Loop through words in the post instead of words in the dictionary.<p>The major limitation here is that it requires a word to be in the dictionary to be considered correct. Non-optimal. No pluralization handling (other than brute forcing by adding to the dictionary), no possessive case (as was noted in the code), and no new-line handling (hint: simply strip all newlines from input, replace with a space, and be done with it. Check for hypens before a new-line to detect continued words; though, that is unlikely in a web post. Just don't use the output directly into a post. Maintain a control copy.)<p>Also, I can't download the source directly (file not found). I had to edit the URL to make it work. You need to fix the link by removing the second instance of shuzak.com.
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2007-04-10T18:20:39
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A lot of people omitted to include any email addr even in the body of the application.
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