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elmlang
general
aaa ok thanks. pff cant think properly today :smile:
2019-03-06T09:31:57.579300
Yang
elmlang
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worked :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-03-06T09:35:49.579700
Yang
elmlang
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i have a wired excention error when using js ports. Does this look familiar to anyone?
2019-03-06T12:32:08.581400
Yang
elmlang
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None
2019-03-06T12:32:23.581500
Yang
elmlang
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found this: <https://github.com/elm/compiler/issues/1686>
2019-03-06T12:32:30.581900
Yang
elmlang
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One another note re ports: if you don’t subscribe to them in your Elm, the compiler shakes them out, which can cause problems if the JS side is still expecting the functions to be there
2019-03-06T12:35:41.582800
Simon
elmlang
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I think Elm should never shake those out given possible external dependencies, but YMMV
2019-03-06T12:35:55.583200
Simon
elmlang
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we run into this because we have standard ports for a couple apps, not all app use all of them
2019-03-06T12:36:09.583700
Simon
elmlang
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yes seen that as well.
2019-03-06T12:36:11.583800
Yang
elmlang
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yeh, that bug's taking a long time to fix
2019-03-06T12:36:43.584800
Kris
elmlang
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that's assuming it's really considered a bug, or just a side-effect of tree shaking
2019-03-06T12:37:25.585100
Huong
elmlang
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thats not the issue though. i do ave the subscriptions wired up - and the issue appears whhen im calling this.
2019-03-06T12:38:08.585700
Yang
elmlang
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``` /// more code above. elmHandles.syncLabels.send(labels); ``` So without this line - ports work. as soon as i call this send function it crashes.
2019-03-06T12:38:47.586400
Yang
elmlang
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It's literally tree shaking *used* code, so I don't think you can consider it not a bug
2019-03-06T12:38:48.586500
Kris
elmlang
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Sounds like you have some recursive loop on the handling side
2019-03-06T12:39:19.587000
Kris
elmlang
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None
2019-03-06T12:40:16.587100
Yang
elmlang
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Just to make sure we're on the same page, we're talking about a `port foo : (x -&gt; Sub msg) -&gt; Sub msg` where there is nothing in Elm using `foo`, right?
2019-03-06T12:40:36.587800
Huong
elmlang
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that means what more exactly ? I have recursive functions ?
2019-03-06T12:40:38.588000
Yang
elmlang
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or you refer to a data type
2019-03-06T12:40:50.588400
Yang
elmlang
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I meant on the elm side of things
2019-03-06T12:40:58.588600
Kris
elmlang
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hmm ok.
2019-03-06T12:41:05.588900
Yang
elmlang
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But I can't be sure without looking at the code
2019-03-06T12:41:09.589100
Kris
elmlang
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Yes
2019-03-06T12:41:36.589200
Kris
elmlang
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where you suggest i look first time? can this be anywere or is more likely to be in the decoders/subscription code&gt;?
2019-03-06T12:42:39.590200
Yang
elmlang
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im gonna look there first
2019-03-06T12:42:49.590500
Yang
elmlang
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Yeah, maybe `update` too, where you're handling the message from the port
2019-03-06T12:43:07.590900
Kris
elmlang
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aha ok. so the entrie pathway then.
2019-03-06T12:43:23.591200
Yang
elmlang
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I'd argue that if the compiled artifact is guaranteed to not ever respond to `...ports.foo.send(something)`, it could be considered useful to not allow calling that.
2019-03-06T12:44:11.591300
Huong
elmlang
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wired error. I've solve it. I think it came form the fact that elm cashes files and doesn't compile them if not necessary. I've changed the meaning of the Label.decoder in the Label module - and here in the Label.Database the change wasn't detected. The entire project compiled just fine. Gonna look more into it but so far this is my understanding. Code was: ``` syncLabels : (List Label -&gt; msg) -&gt; Sub msg syncLabels tagger = portIn_LabelDatabase_syncLabels (\labels -&gt; labels |&gt; List.map Label.decoder // here. this now doesn't compile once i opened this file. But it compiled just fine before. I think it keeps files chched. // is not possible to map a label with a decoder since a decoder is not a function. Was a function before. Something like Label.decoder : String -&gt; Label .. but now that it become an actual decoder .. Label.decoder : Decoder Label .. it obviously doesn't compile. Anyway .. i was hoping this stuff is supposed to be choucht by compiler. Gonna look more into it. |&gt; tagger ) ```
2019-03-06T13:07:54.599300
Yang
elmlang
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thanks everyone for trying to help :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-03-06T13:08:46.599600
Yang
elmlang
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<@Yang> happens sometimes, if you run into weird bugs like this delete `elm-stuff` and recompile
2019-03-06T13:12:32.600900
Brady
elmlang
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yep i did get a error about elm stuff just few mins ago. Was pointed right to Main.elm on line 1.
2019-03-06T13:13:36.601700
Yang
elmlang
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js code could probably check if `ports.foo` is defined
2019-03-06T14:02:27.601800
Randee
elmlang
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How does one verify an email address in the simplest way in Elm?
2019-03-06T15:06:17.603100
Margo
elmlang
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<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/rtfeldman/elm-validate/latest/Validate#isValidEmail>
2019-03-06T15:07:51.603300
Rosa
elmlang
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Yeah, I copy pasted that regex into my own project, too
2019-03-06T15:08:24.603500
Huong
elmlang
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You may want to look at <https://github.com/kdeldycke/awesome-falsehood#emails> before going too far down the path of validating emails
2019-03-06T15:17:40.603700
Carman
elmlang
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Thanks!
2019-03-06T15:18:56.603900
Margo
elmlang
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Yeah, emails are notoriously hard to validate. I have some addresses that get rejected on a bunch of websites (apparently not all devs think .xyz should be a valid tld or something?) And yet, I'd rather have "validation that covers 98% of what my users enter" over no validation at all
2019-03-06T15:21:56.604100
Huong
elmlang
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The best validation is emailing the user a confirmation link (AKA "double opt in")
2019-03-06T15:31:34.604400
Carman
elmlang
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No one likes to allow all correct emails either
2019-03-06T15:32:03.605300
Kris
elmlang
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<@Carman> sure, when we're talking about entering your own email address, that works. Even then, it makes sense to do a sanity check first - there's no point in trying to send an email to `foobar`. Then, there are obvious misspellings, and people being rather bad at noticing their own typos. In our specific case - and this might have something to do with our customer base - support queries went down drastically after adding stricter validation to some email input fields. Turns out, people are really sloppy, and tend to think "the system did something wrong" before considering they might have entered nonsense.
2019-03-06T16:21:59.606400
Huong
elmlang
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Was that stronger validation than basically `*@*.*`?
2019-03-06T16:24:16.606600
Franklin
elmlang
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While `"hello there"@gmail` might be a valid email address according to the rfc, I _highly_ doubt that if one of our users enters that, they did it intentionally
2019-03-06T16:24:24.606800
Huong
elmlang
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I'd be curious to try doing validating as a warning as opposed to an error. e.g. "That doesn't look like a valid email." and present a link similar to "No that's correct, that's my email". Less validation, more... correctness-hinting? :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-03-06T16:28:26.607000
Franklin
elmlang
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Yeah, might do that at some point. I checked our regex against the entire DB, and didn't encounter any false negatives, so I didn't want to complicate the design by adding an extra concept. But yeah, that sounds like a good idea to me, either way. I also like `mailcheck` which offers suggestions for possible typos (e.g. <http://gmail.co|gmail.co> -&gt; <http://gmail.com|gmail.com>)
2019-03-06T16:34:54.607200
Huong
elmlang
general
(there's an Elm version)
2019-03-06T16:35:28.607400
Huong
elmlang
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there are a lot of websites that think one of my `.io` email addresses should actually be `.it`
2019-03-06T16:43:11.607600
Wiley
elmlang
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Hey newbie question. Is there a way to add an extra parameter to the classic `view : Model -&gt; Html Msg` that complies? For example `view : ExtraParameter -&gt; Model -&gt; Html Msg`
2019-03-06T20:19:16.611700
Luther
elmlang
general
No
2019-03-06T20:19:59.611900
Kris
elmlang
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Why would you want that?
2019-03-06T20:20:07.612200
Kris
elmlang
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You can do `view model = viewHelp extraParam model` or something like that
2019-03-06T20:20:37.613000
Kris
elmlang
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And have the helper function have the type you want
2019-03-06T20:20:49.613400
Kris
elmlang
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The extra parameter I want to insert is a paginated list to populate my table
2019-03-06T20:29:09.615100
Luther
elmlang
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<@Luther> the Browser functions like Browser.sandbox and Browser.program require a certain signature for the top level `view` function. but of course, internally, your html-returning functions can have any signature.
2019-03-06T20:31:48.616700
Jarvis
elmlang
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where does the list come from?
2019-03-06T20:33:47.617400
Jarvis
elmlang
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My list comes from this function ``` filterAndSortThings : Model -&gt; PaginatedList String filterAndSortThings model = let sort = if model.reversed then List.reverse else identity filter = if model.query == "" then identity else List.filter (\thing -&gt; String.contains model.query thing) in Paginate.map (filter &gt;&gt; sort) model.things ``` When I change `view : Model -&gt; Html Msg` to `view : PaginatedList String -&gt; Html Msg` and the higher definition to `view = filterAndSortThings &gt;&gt; view` it works.
2019-03-06T20:42:39.621100
Luther
elmlang
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.... the problem is I still need to do this whist having access to `Model` in the `view`
2019-03-06T20:44:05.622300
Luther
elmlang
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<@Luther> you should just call `filterAndSortThings` from inside your `view`
2019-03-06T20:47:39.623700
Earlean
elmlang
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for example, imagine if the first line of your `view` was `let sortedThings = filterAndSortThings model.query model.reversed model.things in`
2019-03-06T20:49:58.624200
Jarvis
elmlang
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Thank you thank you thank you <@Jarvis> <@Earlean> :grin::+1:
2019-03-06T20:59:45.625600
Luther
elmlang
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I'm currently use http 1 in my project but I need to install http 2
2019-03-07T00:11:58.627000
Janita
elmlang
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How I can do that
2019-03-07T00:12:07.627300
Janita
elmlang
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And also I can't change it in elm.json manually
2019-03-07T00:13:37.628200
Janita
elmlang
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I found http 2 installed in cash but how to force app to use it
2019-03-07T00:18:18.629200
Janita
elmlang
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<@Janita> `elm install` will install the latest version of a package that is compatible with all your existing packages. Most likely you'll need to update `elm/core` and `elm/json` first Try removing `elm/core`, `elm/json` and `elm/http` from your elm.json file and then run `elm install elm/http`
2019-03-07T00:29:20.631100
Earlean
elmlang
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good morning! does elm 0.19 still have html5 drag and features?
2019-03-07T04:09:17.632300
Karrie
elmlang
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Yes, I found <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/norpan/elm-html5-drag-drop/latest/> really easy to use.
2019-03-07T04:15:32.632800
Jin
elmlang
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<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/eriktim/elm-protocol-buffers/latest/>
2019-03-07T04:27:24.633000
Elissa
elmlang
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Eric Timms wrote there: "This package provides an API to help converting between Elm values and bytes by implementing Protocol Buffers. elm-protocol-buffers also opens the door to add support for the communication protocol gRPC, which could be an interesting next step."
2019-03-07T04:28:51.633200
Elissa
elmlang
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i was looking at that one already! :slightly_smiling_face: but was hoping to not add another dependency to the project and trying to do it myself
2019-03-07T05:20:40.634300
Karrie
elmlang
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but I guess it’s just way faster if I use an external package
2019-03-07T05:21:04.634800
Karrie
elmlang
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Hi. I'm trying to save a list of about 3000 strings (which I get from http request) to the model But getting «Main.elm:9136 Uncaught RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded» exception. What can be done about this? This snippet is from my update function: ``` GotChain chainResponse -&gt; case chainResponse of Success chain -&gt; -- This causes the exception ({ model | branches = chain.branches }, Cmd.none) _ -&gt; ( model, Cmd.none) ```
2019-03-07T07:26:05.635600
Racquel
elmlang
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Sometimes it is being saved, but then, when I try to load another chain, and replace this long list with the new one (even if the new list contains only of 5 strings for example), I get this exception again.
2019-03-07T07:38:42.639500
Racquel
elmlang
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That's super weird. Record update shouldn't cause this error. What type does `chain.branches` have? Is it `List String`? Do you use this field anywhere, in `view` for example?
2019-03-07T07:39:11.640000
Lynne
elmlang
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Yes, it is `List String`, and no, I don't use it anywhere. I've removed it completely from everywhere, except of this branch of `update`.
2019-03-07T07:43:00.643300
Racquel
elmlang
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Could you hit a kernel bug? Did you search for something similar in `elm/compiler` or `elm/core` repos?
2019-03-07T07:44:09.643600
Lynne
elmlang
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I've seen this thread <https://github.com/elm/compiler/issues/1521> But it was closed. And I have elm 0.19.
2019-03-07T07:48:42.644100
Racquel
elmlang
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<@Racquel> can you try without `--debug`?
2019-03-07T07:48:50.644400
Huong
elmlang
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Do you have a stracktrace?
2019-03-07T07:51:15.644500
Lynne
elmlang
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Evan said it was fixed, that's why it was closed
2019-03-07T07:52:05.644700
Lynne
elmlang
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So it may be that they broke it again
2019-03-07T07:52:19.644900
Lynne
elmlang
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Ping <@Huong>
2019-03-07T07:53:28.645100
Lynne
elmlang
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It is fixed. My guess is that <@Racquel> may be using `--debug`. When the debugger is active, it serializes every message, and when messages are very large, that can cause issues, sadly.
2019-03-07T07:53:45.645300
Huong
elmlang
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Yeah, I saw in the thread that was fixed. Hopefully your guess about `--debug` is correct
2019-03-07T07:54:18.645500
Lynne
elmlang
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Yes, it was `--debug`. Without it everything works just fine. Thanks!
2019-03-07T08:11:19.645700
Racquel
elmlang
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Great, thanks for confirming <@Racquel>!
2019-03-07T08:25:22.645900
Huong
elmlang
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Hi all i am trying to update my elm package from 0.18 to 0.19. when i use elm publish it is saying package has not been published yet. Any suggestions. Thanks
2019-03-07T10:00:14.647000
Oliver
elmlang
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I deleted the elm.json and re-install the packages again this fix the issue
2019-03-07T10:11:14.647300
Janita
elmlang
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Hi ELM community!! I am studying the best was to create a sort of right side menu with a *grid of images with text*, as I highlighted on the attached image. I considered using <http://elm-bootstrap.info/grid> to do so, but I'm not sure if that's the way to go. Would you have any suggestion for me to start with? Thanksss
2019-03-07T10:58:33.648000
Paulita
elmlang
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Are you using anything for styling right now (elm-css, separate css/sass/less, something else)? What are your target browsers? Depending on those, it could be possible for you to use css grid <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Grid_Layout>
2019-03-07T11:12:18.648300
Chae
elmlang
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If you're not committed to CSS/HTML, using elm-ui is pretty sweet.
2019-03-07T11:43:40.648600
Dede
elmlang
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(There's a whole channel, <#C4F9NBLR1|elm-ui>)
2019-03-07T11:43:46.648800
Dede
elmlang
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When 0.19 was released, it appears that publishing 0.18 packages causes some weird behaviour. What happens when you try to publish your package as 1.0.0 on 0.19? What exact error do you get?
2019-03-07T11:50:03.649000
Huong
elmlang
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To publish package as 1.0.0 i have to edit git tag 1.0.0 and going forward i have to edit all git tags which may conflict with 0.18 versions.
2019-03-07T11:51:31.649300
Oliver
elmlang
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So I am thinking of new git repository is there any other way?
2019-03-07T11:51:55.649500
Oliver
elmlang
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So, as far as you know, are there any users using the 0.18 version of your package?
2019-03-07T11:52:37.649700
Huong
elmlang
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i don't think so but 0.18 verison is being used in my company old app which we are updating
2019-03-07T11:53:32.649900
Oliver
elmlang
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I wouldn't _generally_ recommend this, but given that the package was first published after the 0.19 release, chances are that you are aware of all users of the 0.18 version. In that case, removing the existing tags (except perhaps for the last published 0.18 version which is still in use) might be an option
2019-03-07T11:53:56.650100
Huong
elmlang
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It's a bit of a pain, for sure
2019-03-07T11:54:47.651000
Huong