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elmlang | general | we have some common params emerging (Sorts, filters etc) & pages obviously have specific ones | 2019-02-27T15:38:55.353500 | Simon |
elmlang | general | we have our Route’s take a record of the appropriate type and the URL parser populates accordingly | 2019-02-27T15:39:09.353900 | Simon |
elmlang | general | conversely, the “toRoute” function takes optional params, if not provided, comes up w/ sensible defaults (usually no query params) otherwise populates | 2019-02-27T15:39:36.354600 | Simon |
elmlang | general | and the pages themselves continuously update URL accordingly as page state changes | 2019-02-27T15:39:51.355100 | Simon |
elmlang | general | Any examples on of really simple but good Elm in use? | 2019-02-27T21:31:26.356500 | Brittney |
elmlang | general | I'm a fan of <https://package.elm-lang.org> | 2019-02-27T21:39:01.356800 | Lizabeth |
elmlang | general | hey there,
did someone ever modeled the filters? I am looking for a filter model that supports
- multiple values selected per filter
- tracking which values are in fact selected in order to get them displayed on the top of all filters | 2019-02-28T00:35:04.001500 | Floy |
elmlang | general | Have you seen this one? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpDsk374LDE> | 2019-02-28T01:39:46.001600 | Lea |
elmlang | general | I think the examples used throughout the talk will be useful for designing something you need | 2019-02-28T01:41:25.001800 | Lea |
elmlang | general | is there a way to show only packages compatible with 0.19? | 2019-02-28T03:22:44.002800 | Adrian |
elmlang | general | on <http://packages.elm-lang.org|packages.elm-lang.org> | 2019-02-28T03:22:50.003000 | Adrian |
elmlang | general | <@Amee> if you go to <http://packages.elm-lang.org|packages.elm-lang.org> the list of packages are all only 0.19 packages | 2019-02-28T03:24:07.004400 | Earlean |
elmlang | general | You can only find 0.18 package via Google searches or accessing their page directly | 2019-02-28T03:24:44.005200 | Earlean |
elmlang | general | oh :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-02-28T03:37:09.005400 | Adrian |
elmlang | general | Or here for those that have not migrated yet:
<https://dmy.github.io/elm-0.18-packages/> | 2019-02-28T03:39:32.005700 | Velia |
elmlang | general | I find `Html.Lazy` (and `Element.Lazy`) hard to use in some situations, because they rely on referential equality. I would like an alternative with deep (value-based) equality checks on the input arguments instead. Is that possible? | 2019-02-28T04:25:56.008000 | Lucius |
elmlang | general | can anyone explain this?
```
minus3 a = a -3
```
gives
```
<function> : (number -> a) -> a
```
But ``` minus3 a = a - 3 ``` gives ```<function> : number -> number```. | 2019-02-28T04:27:52.009000 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | in `elm repl` | 2019-02-28T04:28:05.009200 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | `-3` is a number, so `a` must be a function of type `number -> a` since you apply the number `-3` to (the function) `a`. | 2019-02-28T04:29:02.009900 | Lewis |
elmlang | general | but `a - 3` is the result of subtracting 3 from `a`, so `a` must be a number in that case. | 2019-02-28T04:29:20.010500 | Lewis |
elmlang | general | ```
> 3
3 : number
> -3
-3 : number
``` | 2019-02-28T04:31:24.011100 | Lewis |
elmlang | general | Yep, the first one might be clearer written as:
```
applyToNeg3 f = f (-3)
``` | 2019-02-28T04:35:01.012000 | Velia |
elmlang | general | What's shadowing?
```
> a bb = bb + 4
<function> : number -> number
> minus3 aa = a -3
<function> : a -> number
> minus3 5
1 : number
> minus4 a = a -4
-- SHADOWING --------------------------------------------------------------- elm
The name `a` is first defined here:
3| a bb = bb + 4
^
But then it is defined AGAIN over here:
5| minus4 a = a -4
^
Think of a more helpful name for one of them and you should be all set!
Note: Linters advise against shadowing, so Elm makes “best practices” the
default. Read <https://elm-lang.org/0.19.0/shadowing> for more details on this choice.
``` | 2019-02-28T04:36:07.012100 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | I tried making `a` a function.
But `a` cannot be taken as input to another function `minus4`. | 2019-02-28T04:36:48.012400 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | i.e. I cannot write `minus4 a = a -4`. | 2019-02-28T04:37:04.012600 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | Thanks mate! | 2019-02-28T04:37:23.012800 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | can you please have a look at this?
<
(<https://elmlang.slack.com/archives/C0CJ3SBBM/p1551346567012100?thread_ts=1551346142.009900&cid=C0CJ3SBBM>)> | 2019-02-28T04:38:56.013000 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | shadowing is when you redefine a function or constant already defined previously. | 2019-02-28T04:39:22.013300 | Velia |
elmlang | general | ```
> myFunction x = x + 4
<function> : number -> number
> minus4 a = a -4
<function> : (number -> a) -> a
> minus4 myFunction
0 : number
``` | 2019-02-28T04:39:35.013500 | Lewis |
elmlang | general | `a` is already a function defined as:
```
a bb = bb + 4
```
so you cannot use it again as a parameter in
```
minus4 a = a -4
``` | 2019-02-28T04:40:14.013700 | Velia |
elmlang | general | you can do `:reset` to clear previous definitions in `elm repl`. See `:help`. | 2019-02-28T04:40:41.013900 | Velia |
elmlang | general | _shadowing_ means that you “hide” another name. since you already had the name `a` in your scope, when you also declare a parameter named `a` for a function, the outer `a` will be hidden (“shadowed”) within that function. | 2019-02-28T04:41:24.014100 | Lewis |
elmlang | general | No, it is not possible. The point of `Html.Lazy` is to avoid calculations when input does not change. Doing value-based equality partially defeats the purpose. I think it is more beneficial to put effort into refactoring so using `Html.Lazy` won't be hard. | 2019-02-28T04:43:27.014400 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | hi everyone | 2019-02-28T04:46:11.014700 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | i'm using this library (<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/ryannhg/date-format/2.3.0/>) to format dates | 2019-02-28T04:46:51.015000 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | and I'm having difficulties in passing a custom timezone for formatting purposes | 2019-02-28T04:47:05.015500 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | it seems like the only zones we can have using the official `Time` package are `utc` and the local one (using the task `now`) | 2019-02-28T04:47:29.016100 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | am I getting this correctly? thanks | 2019-02-28T04:47:35.016400 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | That is correct <@Sherill> | 2019-02-28T04:48:41.016600 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | You can build your own `Zone` objects using `Time.customZone` however | 2019-02-28T04:49:10.017400 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | okay so for example, if I am developing a finance webapp that shows different times/dates from different timezones all over the world | 2019-02-28T04:49:45.017800 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | I have to develop a `customZone`, which seems intended for package developers only | 2019-02-28T04:50:07.018300 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | am I right? | 2019-02-28T04:50:08.018500 | Sherill |
elmlang | general | It is not that you have to develop a `customZone` it is that Elm currently does not have built-in support for such use case | 2019-02-28T04:50:44.019200 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | You can however use <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/isaacseymour/deprecated-time/latest> until an official package appears | 2019-02-28T04:51:24.020100 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/justinmimbs/timezone-data/latest/> | 2019-02-28T04:51:33.020300 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Oh great, I did not know about it :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-02-28T04:51:52.020600 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | It's (predictably) rather large, though, but it also lists alternatives :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-02-28T04:52:39.021100 | Huong |
elmlang | general | I think if one wants playing with different time zones there is no alternative to loading IANA db (be it this package or something like moment-tz). Or is there extended support in JS for such cases? | 2019-02-28T04:53:44.021900 | Lynne |
elmlang | general | There are a few things in the proposal stage, but I don't think the TC39 committee have committed to anything yet | 2019-02-28T04:57:54.022100 | Huong |
elmlang | general | oh. Okay. Thanks! | 2019-02-28T04:59:19.022300 | Yolando |
elmlang | general | Ok, thank you! I've already started refactoring :slightly_smiling_face: | 2019-02-28T05:06:46.022600 | Lucius |
elmlang | general | Hey! I'm trying to preview docs, as described here: <https://elm-doc-preview.netlify.com/> . I'm running `elm make --docs=docs.json src/Spring.elm` and the output is `Success! Compiled 1 module.`, but I can't find the `docs.json` file anywhere. Am I missing something? | 2019-02-28T05:56:37.024000 | Dorsey |
elmlang | general | Oh, wait. I think I'm missing the docs markup. Silly me. | 2019-02-28T06:02:48.024700 | Dorsey |
elmlang | general | Assuming this is a package:
- add the module to the exposed-modules field in your elm.json
- add docs (elm will complain if you don't :wink: )
- `elm make --docs=docs.json` should do the trick, it's intelligent enough to pick up the exposed modules | 2019-02-28T06:03:59.025000 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Aha. So I can't export docs for application? | 2019-02-28T06:04:59.025200 | Dorsey |
elmlang | general | Unfortunately not yet.
```
$ elm make --help
...
--docs=<json-file>
Generate a JSON file of documentation for a package. Eventually it will
be possible to preview docs with `reactor` because it is quite hard to
deal with these JSON files directly.
```
Note the *`for a package`*.
Also see this:
<https://github.com/elm/compiler/issues/1835#issuecomment-440080525> | 2019-02-28T06:26:49.025400 | Velia |
elmlang | general | Hey all! What do you think would be the advantage of using a `Request` instead of a `Task` when making Http requests? You can chain, map tasks much easier. | 2019-02-28T08:02:04.028200 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | The latest incarnation of `elm/http` did away with the `Request` type :slightly_smiling_face: <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/http/latest/Http> | 2019-02-28T08:03:09.028700 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Ok sure but you can still create a `request` instead of a `task` | 2019-02-28T08:04:39.029100 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | Well, you can either create a `Cmd` or a `Task` | 2019-02-28T08:05:32.029500 | Huong |
elmlang | general | The advantage being that most requests have no benefit from going through the extra step of being a `Task` first, since they need to be executed eventually | 2019-02-28T08:06:16.030600 | Huong |
elmlang | general | I guess I don't understand why that is an advantage | 2019-02-28T08:07:22.031000 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | Let's make sure we're on the same page, though. The current API allows (very straightforwardly) to create a simple request to get/post/whatever something over HTTP by means of a `Cmd msg`. Sometimes, more complex scenarios are required, where requests need to be chained. For that scenario, it also allows creating a lower level `Task x a`. Does that make sense? | 2019-02-28T08:11:13.034100 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Yes | 2019-02-28T08:11:41.034300 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | Alright, so can you re-frame your question with that information in mind? I'm having a hard time understanding what the question means, right now :sweat_smile: | 2019-02-28T08:12:44.035900 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Haha. Well, ok an example might make more sense. Let's say I have a request that grabs some element `Item` depending on an `id`. Some parts of the code I know what the `id` is so I just use that. In some other cases I have to grab the `ids` from another request and then sequence the requests to grab each `Item`. I can only do that with `task`s. Now, I have an `Api` module that contains all the get/post etc. There, I have to add new ones just for the tasks and write `Resolver`s just for them instead of `Expect`s. My question was that what if I just scrap that and use tasks for everything? What are the reasons not to do that if any? Note that I have to write some type of `expect` anyways because we also lose data on the errors with the new api. | 2019-02-28T08:19:44.041300 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | It's quite possible that for your use-case, using `Tasks` for all requests and converting to `Cmd` as required is more convenient. In my experience, chaining requests isn't a very common requirement (it sounds like the API isn't really making it easy to work with it :sweat_smile: ), so I definitely see the advantage in the "make the simple things easy, make complex things possible" approach that was used for the 2.0.0 version of the library. The main difference between a `Resolver` and an `Expect` (in the lower level interface you have to use if you need the body from a failed request) is that you have to provide the `(Result x a -> msg)` when setting up the `Expect`, while you only supply that same function to `Task.attempt` when dealing with a `Resolver`. So the building blocks are the same, the difference is in where you need to supply them | 2019-02-28T08:29:58.047600 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Yes, but there are also some other cases like maybe you want to make the call after some delay. | 2019-02-28T08:31:16.048900 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | Then you need a Task again | 2019-02-28T08:31:20.049100 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | Thanks, I was just wondering if there was an advantage to using the `request`s | 2019-02-28T08:31:51.050100 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | Upgrading to 2.0.0 increased the code for me :sweat_smile: | 2019-02-28T08:32:31.051100 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | Yeah, or using 2 messages, for people who prefer to stick to `Cmd`'s. Fair question, though! | 2019-02-28T08:32:37.051300 | Huong |
elmlang | general | I think you may be able to refactor that quite a bit by sharing the `(Response String -> Result x a)` functions, and setting up some higher level helper functions for constructing your requests as tasks or as commands as you see fit. I'll be honest, I haven't upgraded our primary project to elm/[email protected] yet, because I know it'll be quite a bit of work :smile: | 2019-02-28T08:34:25.053400 | Huong |
elmlang | general | Yeah, fair enough | 2019-02-28T08:37:57.053600 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | :smile: | 2019-02-28T08:38:04.053800 | Leonore |
elmlang | general | hey everybody. Im confused about the polimorfic type of the error here:
` | 2019-02-28T10:53:48.054700 | Yang |
elmlang | general | <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/time/latest/Time#here> | 2019-02-28T10:53:49.054900 | Yang |
elmlang | general | it sais: `here : Task x Zone` | 2019-02-28T10:54:04.055100 | Yang |
elmlang | general | i want to know exactly what x is | 2019-02-28T10:54:13.055500 | Yang |
elmlang | general | such that in my Msg i have: TimeZoneFailed x | 2019-02-28T10:54:27.056100 | Yang |
elmlang | general | It's polymorphic because it can't fail | 2019-02-28T10:54:31.056300 | Kris |
elmlang | general | where x is not polimorfic | 2019-02-28T10:54:32.056400 | Yang |
elmlang | general | hmm.. | 2019-02-28T10:54:42.056700 | Yang |
elmlang | general | You don't need to handle a failure | 2019-02-28T10:54:43.056800 | Kris |
elmlang | general | You can use <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/core/latest/Task#perform> for that | 2019-02-28T10:55:04.057300 | Kris |
elmlang | general | `Time.here
|> Task.attempt (\result ->
case result of
Ok timeZone ->
TimeZoneSuceeded timeZone
Err error ->
TimeZoneError error
)` | 2019-02-28T10:55:11.057500 | Yang |
elmlang | general | aha ok | 2019-02-28T10:55:22.057800 | Yang |
elmlang | general | so is like never | 2019-02-28T10:55:25.058100 | Yang |
elmlang | general | Yep | 2019-02-28T10:55:29.058400 | Kris |
elmlang | general | As an analogy, `res : Result x Int` means the same thing, that it can't be an `Err` | 2019-02-28T10:56:02.059200 | Kris |
elmlang | general | im gonna test it but i think it will not compile since `x` is not `Never` | 2019-02-28T10:57:08.059700 | Yang |
elmlang | general | it supposed to be a Never such that it mapps the type asked by Task.attempt | 2019-02-28T10:57:29.060200 | Yang |
elmlang | general | i think | 2019-02-28T10:57:32.060500 | Yang |
elmlang | general | Well, it's polymorphic, so you can specialise the type variable to whatever you want | 2019-02-28T10:59:31.061200 | Kris |
elmlang | general | I.e, ```myHere : Task Never Time
myHere = Time.here``` should compile just fine | 2019-02-28T11:00:03.062000 | Kris |
elmlang | general | aha so hmm.. ok we are going form general to specific that why. Ok thanks for explaining :smile: | 2019-02-28T11:00:34.062500 | Yang |
elmlang | general | :hugging_face: | 2019-02-28T11:00:38.062700 | Yang |
elmlang | general | No problem! | 2019-02-28T11:01:03.062900 | Kris |
elmlang | general | Hi, is there a reason why it's not possible to do the following?
```
someConstantValue = 5
foo a =
case a of
someConstantValue -> "5"
_ -> ""
```
I'm wondering if there is some theoretical reason behind disallowing this or if it's just low priority to add it. | 2019-02-28T11:57:07.065300 | Jae |
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