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elmlang
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In the past, elm-format would rejigger that `data = ...` clause to be pretty and compile
2019-02-23T13:03:56.168400
Santina
elmlang
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I guess it does compile correctly if I put it all on one line.
2019-02-23T13:04:24.168700
Santina
elmlang
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You just can’t have the comma immediately after the newline.
2019-02-23T13:05:44.169200
Dede
elmlang
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Put a space in front of it, and elm-format will take over from there.
2019-02-23T13:05:51.169500
Dede
elmlang
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Just got it going, for some reason I have to now explicitly tell VSCode about elm-format with `"elm.formatCommand": "./node_modules/.bin/elm-format"`
2019-02-23T13:06:14.169800
Santina
elmlang
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for some reason that i don't understand, my previous project does not require that.
2019-02-23T13:06:47.170300
Santina
elmlang
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does anyone have any idea on how I can solve this: <https://github.com/NoRedInk/elm-json-decode-pipeline/issues/9> ?
2019-02-23T13:26:45.170600
Vilma
elmlang
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I haven't encountered that error yet. Just to be sure - ~/.elm isn't mapped, right? The edge case I'm a little worried about is having `elm-stuff` from the host VM having to correspond to `~/.elm` on the guest. This shouldn't be a problem is the `elm-stuff` on the host is never touched (i.e. _all_ `elm` interactions happen exclusively on the guest), but you never know.
2019-02-23T13:34:39.170700
Huong
elmlang
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In other words, does clearing `elm-stuff` on the host (and perhaps `~/.elm` on the guest) help, or is this a persistent issue?
2019-02-23T13:35:13.171500
Huong
elmlang
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Ah yeah if you have elm-format, I think you can put commas etc. on the beginning of a line, and it'll fix it, but if you don't, you get a compiler error
2019-02-23T13:36:47.173400
Nana
elmlang
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Since 0.19 I have issues with auto format on save both in Atom and VS Code
2019-02-23T13:54:42.173900
Malinda
elmlang
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I just run a batch script once in a while for reformatting all of my files.
2019-02-23T13:55:23.174100
Malinda
elmlang
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Or sometimes call elm-format from the terminal of Atom
2019-02-23T13:55:41.174300
Malinda
elmlang
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I'm on Windows 7 though
2019-02-23T13:56:05.174500
Malinda
elmlang
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I'm on windows 10 and 0.19.. I also had problems. But after changing the "Format On Save Timeout" to 5000ms in vscode settings it has been working on every sngle save for a few months :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-02-23T13:58:07.174700
Monnie
elmlang
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hmm let me try that
2019-02-23T13:58:46.174900
Malinda
elmlang
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I don't even see that setting :open_mouth:
2019-02-23T14:01:29.175100
Malinda
elmlang
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None
2019-02-23T14:01:38.175300
Malinda
elmlang
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I get this error on saving:
2019-02-23T14:02:34.175700
Malinda
elmlang
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None
2019-02-23T14:02:43.175900
Malinda
elmlang
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Here is mine.. not elm format settings.. but vs code settings
2019-02-23T14:03:05.176300
Monnie
elmlang
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im in vs code... and using elm-format globally installed by npm...
2019-02-23T14:04:29.176700
Monnie
elmlang
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I installed it globally ofc
2019-02-23T14:04:45.176900
Malinda
elmlang
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but Atom (and VS code) does not seem to find the executable otherwise but specifying full path
2019-02-23T14:05:11.177100
Malinda
elmlang
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<@Huong> Not so much name-dropping as knowing who to go to for a few more stories/back up on why Elm is the right choice for a plethora of use cases
2019-02-23T14:32:41.178000
Charley
elmlang
general
Showing growth always helps!
2019-02-23T14:33:01.178200
Charley
elmlang
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Oh, yeah, I didn't mean to use that as a pejorative term - showing that established organizations use Elm is never a bad idea! :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-02-23T14:34:18.178400
Huong
elmlang
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I'm trying to build the elm compiler and `cabal build` says "can't find source for Elm/PerUserCache"
2019-02-23T17:29:04.179900
Karan
elmlang
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has anyone run into this?
2019-02-23T17:29:21.180200
Karan
elmlang
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<#C0VHPC4F3|compiler> is probably a better channel for this kind of question. As a general note - `master` isn't stable - you might have better luck building the 0.19.0 tag
2019-02-23T17:30:11.180300
Huong
elmlang
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ok, thank you
2019-02-23T17:33:59.180500
Karan
elmlang
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I want to publish an elm package
2019-02-24T02:11:34.181000
Mozella
elmlang
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How should I structure the json?
2019-02-24T02:11:43.181400
Mozella
elmlang
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is there any guide?
2019-02-24T02:11:46.181600
Mozella
elmlang
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Have you seen this <https://github.com/elm/compiler/blob/master/docs/elm.json/package.md> ?
2019-02-24T02:23:32.181700
Lea
elmlang
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Okay, so now I am at the point where it is asking me to tag my release
2019-02-24T02:51:37.182400
Mozella
elmlang
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I ran the commands that the command line recommended and I see a "release" on github
2019-02-24T02:52:07.183000
Mozella
elmlang
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aaand I figured it out
2019-02-24T02:56:15.183200
Mozella
elmlang
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<https://github.com/bowbahdoe/elm-history/releases>
2019-02-24T02:57:26.183400
Mozella
elmlang
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Is this a bug? <https://ellie-app.com/4Pj7WpKzTHKa1> The iframe embedded through the markdown package always reloads if you run any update
2019-02-24T03:49:03.185000
Lea
elmlang
general
Keying the node makes no difference
2019-02-24T03:49:45.185500
Lea
elmlang
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<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/bowbahdoe/elm-history/latest/>
2019-02-24T03:50:11.186100
Mozella
elmlang
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Embedding with `iframe [] []` works fine
2019-02-24T03:50:21.186500
Lea
elmlang
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(happy for myself)
2019-02-24T03:50:22.186600
Mozella
elmlang
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<@Lea> because you're just inserting a string of HTML the virtual DOM doesn't know about it so it can't do the diffing that it would normally do
2019-02-24T03:52:33.187500
Earlean
elmlang
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I expected keying the node to would prevent this behavior. Since Markdown.toHtml returns Html msg, I also expect it to behave like a Virtual Dom node
2019-02-24T03:58:19.189500
Lea
elmlang
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(I understand why it doesn’t)
2019-02-24T03:58:42.190000
Lea
elmlang
general
Does making it lazy help?
2019-02-24T04:16:30.190800
Huong
elmlang
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Nope
2019-02-24T04:20:11.191000
Lea
elmlang
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If I read this correctly, it should also compare the provided String <https://github.com/elm-explorations/markdown/blob/1.0.0/src/Elm/Kernel/Markdown.js#L37>
2019-02-24T04:22:50.192000
Lea
elmlang
general
But Virtual dom ‘custom nodes’ compares the nodes before it compares the diff <https://github.com/elm/virtual-dom/blob/1.0.2/src/Elm/Kernel/VirtualDom.js#L817>
2019-02-24T04:28:46.192400
Lea
elmlang
general
Which will always be true, because of the creation of a new node by `_Markdown_render` <https://github.com/elm-explorations/markdown/blob/1.0.0/src/Elm/Kernel/Markdown.js#L33>
2019-02-24T04:29:43.192600
Lea
elmlang
general
Right. So easy way out - wrapping it in a lazy div :sweat_smile: this doesn't sound intentional, though - probably fair to log a bug on the markdown repo :thinking_face:
2019-02-24T04:58:24.193600
Huong
elmlang
general
K, I’ll file a bug, thanks for taking a look!
2019-02-24T05:17:54.193900
Lea
elmlang
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Hold on, it should work with lazy :neutral_face:
2019-02-24T05:22:35.194100
Huong
elmlang
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<https://github.com/elm/virtual-dom/blob/1.0.2/src/Elm/Kernel/VirtualDom.js#L733> which should end up in there
2019-02-24T05:22:54.194300
Huong
elmlang
general
<https://ellie-app.com/4PkzsFfMLksa1> <https://ellie-app.com/4PkBNVJsKnka1>
2019-02-24T05:24:14.194500
Huong
elmlang
general
appears to work, as long as all params are constants (which makes sense, since that's how lazy is supposed to work)
2019-02-24T05:24:42.194700
Huong
elmlang
general
Ah you’re right
2019-02-24T05:25:00.194900
Lea
elmlang
general
I did <https://ellie-app.com/4PkDx6XdYq6a1>
2019-02-24T05:26:41.195100
Lea
elmlang
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```(Markdown.toHtmlWith { defaultOptions | sanitize = False } [] )``` won't evaluate to a referentially equal result every time it runs, though
2019-02-24T05:29:59.195300
Huong
elmlang
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in other words, `lazy (fn arg) otherArg` and `lazy2 fn arg otherArg` do different things. Additionally, `{ defaultOptions | sanitize = False }` also evaluates to a new record every time it is evaluated, so that also doesn't quite work
2019-02-24T05:31:33.195500
Huong
elmlang
general
K cool
2019-02-24T05:33:12.195700
Lea
elmlang
general
Still file a bug?
2019-02-24T05:37:01.195900
Lea
elmlang
general
It seems to work the way _I_ would expect it to, but if that doesn't match your expectations, it's still fair to file a bug - perhaps we need to explain how `lazy` and `Markdown.toHtml*` work together better
2019-02-24T05:43:52.196100
Huong
elmlang
general
A note in the `Markdown` docs might be nice indeed
2019-02-24T05:47:46.196300
Lea
elmlang
general
I’m always having a hard time figuring out referential equality
2019-02-24T05:49:13.196600
Lea
elmlang
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Mostly because I never took the time to look it up _and_ understand it :sweat_smile:
2019-02-24T05:50:12.196800
Lea
elmlang
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Yeah, it's a very weird case. Knowing the implementation of things, it's rather predictable, but I can't think of a very simple guideline that doesn't have a whole bunch of exceptions. Like "expressions evaluate to new values" isn't universally true - `identity foo` evaluates to something that is referentially equal to `foo`. "Only top level values" isn't true either - things could perfectly well come from your model and work just fine. Hm. This is a tough problem :sweat_smile:
2019-02-24T06:13:28.197000
Huong
elmlang
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Ye, that’s what I’m missing, it’ll might end up being an intuition thing at some point after seeing a lot of cases
2019-02-24T06:33:34.197400
Lea
elmlang
general
Looks pretty nice! API seems pretty clean and readable
2019-02-24T09:51:24.197800
Janiece
elmlang
general
And :thumbsup: for taking the time to write good docs
2019-02-24T09:51:30.198000
Janiece
elmlang
general
Did you take a look at existing packages like <https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-community/undo-redo/latest/>?
2019-02-24T09:52:10.198200
Janiece
elmlang
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Hello. I’m encountering some performance problems when running `Browser.Dom.getElement` on about 30-40 elements using `Task.sequence`. It seems like Elm is scheduling all the tasks in the sequence to be run one at a time, one on every animationFrame. Can someone confirm or deny that?
2019-02-24T12:32:06.201400
Moriah
elmlang
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<@Moriah> the documentation says the tasks will be run in order one-by-one
2019-02-24T12:49:03.202400
Donella
elmlang
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I’ve read that as well. I just wasn’t sure that it would run them at the speed on 1 task per animationFrame.
2019-02-24T12:50:51.203500
Moriah
elmlang
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It basically means that for every 60 tasks that sequence I will have to wait an extra second for the resulting `Cmd` to finish, if it turns out that my assumptions are correct.
2019-02-24T12:53:50.205200
Moriah
elmlang
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The other package named elm-history has a pretty non open-source license <https://github.com/iodevs/elm-history/blob/1.0.0/LICENSE>
2019-02-24T14:51:20.205700
Mozella
elmlang
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And that package, while it does do a good deal more than what my package does, exposes the internals of the type
2019-02-24T14:53:18.205900
Mozella
elmlang
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The benefit of an opaque type here is that i can treat it somewhat like an interface and potentially add optional features like size caps without breaking consumer (my) code
2019-02-24T14:58:33.206100
Mozella
elmlang
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That being said... I didn't really do my due dilligence
2019-02-24T15:00:48.206500
Mozella
elmlang
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Egg on my face
2019-02-24T15:01:03.206700
Mozella
elmlang
general
I just saw the other elm-history plugin's restrictive license last night and was kind of... reactionary
2019-02-24T15:01:51.206900
Mozella
elmlang
general
`elm make` is producing blank html pages, I’m running `0.19`. Anybody else experiencing this? I have no issue running `elm reactor`
2019-02-24T15:30:37.207300
Tamiko
elmlang
general
do you have a `main` function? if there is no main, the elm compiler will not produce any output <@Tamiko>
2019-02-24T15:59:25.208200
Virgie
elmlang
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<@Moriah> `Task.sequence` will run a list of tasks one after another. `Browser.Dom.getElement` gives you a Task that waits for the next animation frame before querying the DOM. The behaviour of `Browser.Dom.getElement` is like that so that you can return it from `update` and have it act on an element that will be in the DOM after the next call to `view`.
2019-02-24T21:49:47.213000
Earlean
elmlang
general
<@Moriah> doing `Browser.Dom.getElement` for 40 elements doesn't seem like a common use case, can you expand on what you're trying to achieve?
2019-02-24T21:51:12.213900
Earlean
elmlang
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Thank you for your reply. I’m working on a drag-and-drop thing. I use `getElement` to get the positions and dimensions of potential drop targets.
2019-02-25T02:02:18.214300
Moriah
elmlang
general
I managed to work around the problem using ports.
2019-02-25T02:04:30.214500
Moriah
elmlang
general
Hello! I published a second version of a package, but it is not listed in the version list. I used `elm bump`, tagged the commit, pushed it and did `elm publish`... What did I do wrong?
2019-02-25T04:32:12.216400
Elza
elmlang
general
Might be cache related. What is the package?
2019-02-25T04:34:01.216900
Jin
elmlang
general
<https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/adauguet/elm-spanned-string>
2019-02-25T04:34:18.217100
Elza
elmlang
general
there should be a `1.0.1`
2019-02-25T04:34:30.217400
Elza
elmlang
general
you can actually see it in the search
2019-02-25T04:34:44.217800
Elza
elmlang
general
I’m seeing `1.0.1` there.
2019-02-25T04:35:11.218200
Jin
elmlang
general
cache-related it was, sorry for asking
2019-02-25T04:36:42.218600
Elza
elmlang
general
This question comes up every now and then. :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-02-25T04:37:39.219500
Jin
elmlang
general
have any of you people had experience with using entity component systems for "databases"? We need a global datastore in our application that stores "needs". those can be in many different configurations, so it's hard to model the whole system with sum-types (they can be loaded, loading, failed to load, they can be owned or not owned, they can have different types, and, technically, multiple of them....)
2019-02-25T07:36:32.222000
Emilee
elmlang
general
i'm trying to weigh how many guarantees i lose or gain by using this modeling method, vs how easy it is to use for developers
2019-02-25T07:37:03.222800
Emilee
elmlang
general
also, there's the question of how composable selectors on this structure would be
2019-02-25T07:38:54.223200
Emilee