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pythondev
help
manually install pip
2017-08-22T16:33:28.000253
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:33:28.000253
1,503,419,608.000253
90,603
pythondev
help
um
2017-08-22T16:33:31.000410
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:33:31.000410
1,503,419,611.00041
90,604
pythondev
help
Is there a windows equivalent to which to see which pip I'm running?
2017-08-22T16:33:57.000456
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:33:57.000456
1,503,419,637.000456
90,605
pythondev
help
All of the other environments work fine.
2017-08-22T16:34:15.000393
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:34:15.000393
1,503,419,655.000393
90,606
pythondev
help
ive never got
2017-08-22T16:34:21.000073
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:34:21.000073
1,503,419,661.000073
90,607
pythondev
help
virtual env
2017-08-22T16:34:22.000336
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:34:22.000336
1,503,419,662.000336
90,608
pythondev
help
on windows to work
2017-08-22T16:34:24.000235
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:34:24.000235
1,503,419,664.000235
90,609
pythondev
help
otherwise i'd be using it
2017-08-22T16:34:29.000547
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:34:29.000547
1,503,419,669.000547
90,610
pythondev
help
ouch ok
2017-08-22T16:34:43.000040
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:34:43.000040
1,503,419,683.00004
90,611
pythondev
help
I have over a dozen and haven't ran into this issue. When 3.6 first came out I had to do it manually because pip was too out of date though.
2017-08-22T16:34:50.000250
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:34:50.000250
1,503,419,690.00025
90,612
pythondev
help
well, that there is half your problem, I suspect
2017-08-22T16:34:51.000283
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:34:51.000283
1,503,419,691.000283
90,613
pythondev
help
window
2017-08-22T16:34:52.000170
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:34:52.000170
1,503,419,692.00017
90,614
pythondev
help
lol, yeah, they won't give us Linux and this machine is too weak to run a vm decently.
2017-08-22T16:35:11.000049
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:35:11.000049
1,503,419,711.000049
90,615
pythondev
help
:facepalm:
2017-08-22T16:35:23.000244
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:35:23.000244
1,503,419,723.000244
90,616
pythondev
help
Eh, I need to upgrade to 3.6.2 anyway.
2017-08-22T16:35:30.000354
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:35:30.000354
1,503,419,730.000354
90,617
pythondev
help
where do you work? so I don't apply there by accident :smile:
2017-08-22T16:35:34.000250
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:35:34.000250
1,503,419,734.00025
90,618
pythondev
help
A fortune 150 telco.
2017-08-22T16:35:51.000565
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:35:51.000565
1,503,419,751.000565
90,619
pythondev
help
can you install linux yourself? I did that...
2017-08-22T16:36:00.000122
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-22T16:36:00.000122
1,503,419,760.000122
90,620
pythondev
help
lol, I don't think they approve that one. They don't even let us have admin rights. Though, I do have work-arounds for that.
2017-08-22T16:36:25.000028
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:36:25.000028
1,503,419,785.000028
90,621
pythondev
help
:disappointed:
2017-08-22T16:36:38.000223
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-22T16:36:38.000223
1,503,419,798.000223
90,622
pythondev
help
uhm, yeah
2017-08-22T16:37:06.000366
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:37:06.000366
1,503,419,826.000366
90,623
pythondev
help
that there would have me looking
2017-08-22T16:37:13.000072
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:37:13.000072
1,503,419,833.000072
90,624
pythondev
help
They have ViewFinity which elevates certain whitelisted programs to admin to install or run. For some reason they made the python 3.6 binary one of those programs. So, subprocess.call(['cmd']), boom, you are admin.
2017-08-22T16:37:22.000258
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:37:22.000258
1,503,419,842.000258
90,625
pythondev
help
working under those conditions, with the wide range of programming positions available, why stay?
2017-08-22T16:37:34.000477
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:37:34.000477
1,503,419,854.000477
90,626
pythondev
help
aside from job security?
2017-08-22T16:37:44.000011
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:37:44.000011
1,503,419,864.000011
90,627
pythondev
help
I'm halfway a network engineer and halfway a programmer these days.
2017-08-22T16:37:52.000022
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:37:52.000022
1,503,419,872.000022
90,628
pythondev
help
And, I am applying elsewhere. If I could find a work from home that pays just a tad better I would probably go. But, otherwise, the environment is laid back.
2017-08-22T16:38:18.000403
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:38:18.000403
1,503,419,898.000403
90,629
pythondev
help
gotcha
2017-08-22T16:38:36.000278
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:38:36.000278
1,503,419,916.000278
90,630
pythondev
help
so, you like the job, just pain in the ass conditions? been there a few times :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-08-22T16:38:49.000194
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:38:49.000194
1,503,419,929.000194
90,631
pythondev
help
Yup.
2017-08-22T16:38:56.000467
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:38:56.000467
1,503,419,936.000467
90,632
pythondev
help
Big corporate stuff.
2017-08-22T16:39:04.000645
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:39:04.000645
1,503,419,944.000645
90,633
pythondev
help
hey, <@Hung> thought you had to be over 18 to create an account? :thinking_face:
2017-08-22T16:39:17.000065
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:39:17.000065
1,503,419,957.000065
90,634
pythondev
help
try the windows subsystem :smile:
2017-08-22T16:40:04.000574
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-22T16:40:04.000574
1,503,420,004.000574
90,635
pythondev
help
The Windows Python installer is still stupid. Such weird defaults, and it offers to not install tk. :open_mouth:
2017-08-22T16:40:05.000247
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:40:05.000247
1,503,420,005.000247
90,636
pythondev
help
windows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2017-08-22T16:40:22.000336
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:40:22.000336
1,503,420,022.000336
90,637
pythondev
help
Not on Win 10, though some volunteered for that.
2017-08-22T16:40:23.000383
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:40:23.000383
1,503,420,023.000383
90,638
pythondev
help
I do have a few linux servers I could work in, but no x.
2017-08-22T16:40:49.000170
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:40:49.000170
1,503,420,049.00017
90,639
pythondev
help
alright, I'm outta here. workday's done... finally
2017-08-22T16:41:07.000325
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:41:07.000325
1,503,420,067.000325
90,640
pythondev
help
does windows remote desktop can connect to a linux box ?
2017-08-22T16:41:11.000410
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-22T16:41:11.000410
1,503,420,071.00041
90,641
pythondev
help
see you all tomorow :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-08-22T16:41:12.000478
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-22T16:41:12.000478
1,503,420,072.000478
90,642
pythondev
help
Enjoy the evening.
2017-08-22T16:41:15.000110
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:41:15.000110
1,503,420,075.00011
90,643
pythondev
help
:wave:
2017-08-22T16:41:17.000333
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-22T16:41:17.000333
1,503,420,077.000333
90,644
pythondev
help
If the linux device had rdp setup I suppose it could. But, the servers I have access to don't have X on them.
2017-08-22T16:41:42.000549
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:41:42.000549
1,503,420,102.000549
90,645
pythondev
help
oh wait my solution isn't working x.x
2017-08-22T16:42:20.000169
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:42:20.000169
1,503,420,140.000169
90,646
pythondev
help
It would be nice to get the lead engineer to convince IT to get him a better VM with X and we could both just remote into it for development.
2017-08-22T16:42:26.000127
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:42:26.000127
1,503,420,146.000127
90,647
pythondev
help
bleurgh this is disgusting
2017-08-22T16:42:27.000373
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:42:27.000373
1,503,420,147.000373
90,648
pythondev
help
Hmm, so I look now and pip and setuptools are in the environment even though they weren't before. I think I just need a new laptop.
2017-08-22T16:51:38.000249
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T16:51:38.000249
1,503,420,698.000249
90,649
pythondev
help
that's never why :stuck_out_tongue:
2017-08-22T16:52:38.000426
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:52:38.000426
1,503,420,758.000426
90,650
pythondev
help
is there some magictrick to registering these template tags
2017-08-22T16:59:59.000623
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T16:59:59.000623
1,503,421,199.000623
90,651
pythondev
help
i created a template_tags.py and put the tag suggested in but it's not recognised x.x
2017-08-22T17:00:17.000446
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T17:00:17.000446
1,503,421,217.000446
90,652
pythondev
help
<@Maida> What templating system are you workign with?
2017-08-22T17:11:30.000565
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-22T17:11:30.000565
1,503,421,890.000565
90,653
pythondev
help
django
2017-08-22T18:09:28.000189
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T18:09:28.000189
1,503,425,368.000189
90,654
pythondev
help
I've managed it now
2017-08-22T18:09:32.000014
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T18:09:32.000014
1,503,425,372.000014
90,655
pythondev
help
is there a way i can iterate through a query set and see if an object is equal to it in a django template?
2017-08-22T20:55:06.000249
Maida
pythondev_help_Maida_2017-08-22T20:55:06.000249
1,503,435,306.000249
90,656
pythondev
help
hello guys can you help me with my multiple formset which is coming from dynamic data
2017-08-23T08:23:45.000122
Meredith
pythondev_help_Meredith_2017-08-23T08:23:45.000122
1,503,476,625.000122
90,657
pythondev
help
need a help in implementing code ...can anyone help
2017-08-23T08:36:50.000471
Luann
pythondev_help_Luann_2017-08-23T08:36:50.000471
1,503,477,410.000471
90,658
pythondev
help
Hi guys. It's better to directly ask your question. If someone is available to help he will answer
2017-08-23T08:39:56.000006
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-23T08:39:56.000006
1,503,477,596.000006
90,659
pythondev
help
and it helps to format your code appropriately
2017-08-23T08:40:32.000202
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T08:40:32.000202
1,503,477,632.000202
90,660
pythondev
help
<https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202288908-Format-your-messages#code-blocks>
2017-08-23T08:40:33.000464
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T08:40:33.000464
1,503,477,633.000464
90,661
pythondev
help
I am having some problems on a server where my script doesn't seem to be releasing or reusing memory. Obviously that makes me run out of memory and hit my pagefile. It doesn't matter what script I use. I see the same results. It is windows server 2008R2, NETSVCS seems to be what is holding onto the memory.
2017-08-23T09:35:48.000068
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:35:48.000068
1,503,480,948.000068
90,662
pythondev
help
Any one have any ideas on where I can look for resources, or what I can do to find the memory leak.
2017-08-23T09:36:23.000493
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:36:23.000493
1,503,480,983.000493
90,663
pythondev
help
what's the script?
2017-08-23T09:37:27.000663
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T09:37:27.000663
1,503,481,047.000663
90,664
pythondev
help
I've had similar things happen when using beautiful soup in a loop
2017-08-23T09:37:37.000598
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T09:37:37.000598
1,503,481,057.000598
90,665
pythondev
help
there is some profiler available. Some should have memory support
2017-08-23T09:37:59.000496
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-23T09:37:59.000496
1,503,481,079.000496
90,666
pythondev
help
even explicit garbage collection call ever 100 iterations didn't work
2017-08-23T09:38:15.000440
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T09:38:15.000440
1,503,481,095.00044
90,667
pythondev
help
`memory_profiler`
2017-08-23T09:38:21.000352
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-08-23T09:38:21.000352
1,503,481,101.000352
90,668
pythondev
help
In one, I am creating a batch script that has a bcp statement and then executing that script. It is a large archiving process so I am going it in loop to grab date information to plug into the bcp command. I can share the script when. I get to my office.
2017-08-23T09:42:11.000100
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:42:11.000100
1,503,481,331.0001
90,669
pythondev
help
But again, it doesn't seem to matter the script. My sys admin is convinced it is the code, and to some degree it is, but the memory is still held even when I kill the python script
2017-08-23T09:43:09.000455
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:43:09.000455
1,503,481,389.000455
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pythondev
help
I'll look at memory_profiler when I get to the office too
2017-08-23T09:44:50.000653
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:44:50.000653
1,503,481,490.000653
90,671
pythondev
help
held by what? If the script process is dead, it wouldn't show up in any diagnostic, so how do you know it's being held?
2017-08-23T09:45:04.000525
Gabriele
pythondev_help_Gabriele_2017-08-23T09:45:04.000525
1,503,481,504.000525
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pythondev
help
I can see, in resource manager, that the memory grabbed while the script was running never releases back for use. Ii know what you are saying cause that was my thought. That is why I am hoping to trace the trail to see if I can figure why a service holds to the memory after grabbed in the script
2017-08-23T09:47:29.000127
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:47:29.000127
1,503,481,649.000127
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pythondev
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so you're saying that even after you kill the process, the memory is never released?
2017-08-23T09:49:00.000450
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T09:49:00.000450
1,503,481,740.00045
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Correct, but I can see it being consumed as a script runs (almost all of my scripts have something to do with lots of data).
2017-08-23T09:51:41.000261
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:51:41.000261
1,503,481,901.000261
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are you accessing a database or something ? you sure every connection are cleanly closed ?
2017-08-23T09:52:23.000414
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-23T09:52:23.000414
1,503,481,943.000414
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pythondev
help
I’m a little confused. Are you running it in .bat script, right?
2017-08-23T09:55:33.000297
Liberty
pythondev_help_Liberty_2017-08-23T09:55:33.000297
1,503,482,133.000297
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pythondev
help
I am accessing a database, I make explicit closes to the connection, before the script ends, on any script where I am using psycopg2 or pyodbc. And on a BCP command I'm executing a batch script which is a self contained process
2017-08-23T09:55:47.000455
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:55:47.000455
1,503,482,147.000455
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pythondev
help
@malasjkovv I do a little of both depending on the needs of the original
2017-08-23T09:56:22.000321
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:56:22.000321
1,503,482,182.000321
90,679
pythondev
help
as far as I remember if you kill bat script which runs python process inside of it it will no kill Python process itself, but I may mistake
2017-08-23T09:57:52.000545
Liberty
pythondev_help_Liberty_2017-08-23T09:57:52.000545
1,503,482,272.000545
90,680
pythondev
help
sometimes it's possible to do something which triggers a memory leak elsewhere. For example, I once saw a computer with network drivers that had a memory leak. So if I downloaded a big file, 10 minutes later the computer was unusable
2017-08-23T09:58:23.000077
Gabriele
pythondev_help_Gabriele_2017-08-23T09:58:23.000077
1,503,482,303.000077
90,681
pythondev
help
The batch script is created with python but it runs BCP
2017-08-23T09:58:41.000305
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:58:41.000305
1,503,482,321.000305
90,682
pythondev
help
<@Gabriele> interesting, my pet theory has been the network drivers haven't been releasing data, similar to what you are saying. How were you able to trace it?
2017-08-23T09:59:52.000409
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T09:59:52.000409
1,503,482,392.000409
90,683
pythondev
help
is there any similar issue reported with the server drivers?
2017-08-23T10:00:44.000338
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T10:00:44.000338
1,503,482,444.000338
90,684
pythondev
help
you're running 2008R2, correct?
2017-08-23T10:00:53.000709
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T10:00:53.000709
1,503,482,453.000709
90,685
pythondev
help
Yes 2008r2
2017-08-23T10:01:39.000020
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T10:01:39.000020
1,503,482,499.00002
90,686
pythondev
help
I don't see the same problem when I run from my computer
2017-08-23T10:01:51.000624
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T10:01:51.000624
1,503,482,511.000624
90,687
pythondev
help
<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/using-poolmon-to-find-a-kernel-mode-memory-leak>
2017-08-23T10:02:44.000218
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-08-23T10:02:44.000218
1,503,482,564.000218
90,688
pythondev
help
I don't remember exactly. I think it was a mixture of coincidence and research. We saw that the computer was slow when we had a downloader program running, but a bit of experimentation showed that it didn't get fixed when we closed the program, so we figured it might be related to network activity. From there, I think we started to look specifically at the memory usage of the driver DLL, then searched to see if there was a common problem with it (and there was)
2017-08-23T10:03:02.000079
Gabriele
pythondev_help_Gabriele_2017-08-23T10:03:02.000079
1,503,482,582.000079
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pythondev
help
I'll look at that PoolMon when I get into the office too
2017-08-23T10:05:07.000058
Abigail
pythondev_help_Abigail_2017-08-23T10:05:07.000058
1,503,482,707.000058
90,690
pythondev
help
Anyone used Shopify Python library?
2017-08-23T10:43:01.000331
Temika
pythondev_help_Temika_2017-08-23T10:43:01.000331
1,503,484,981.000331
90,691
pythondev
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i’ve used sysinternals to troubleshoot windows computers/servers. I’ve found horrible .dlls conflicts, rootkits, and all sorts of things. The tools do take a bit to master but you can get a lot of techniques by watching Mark Russinovich’s videos called “Case of the Unexplained”.
2017-08-23T10:48:59.000699
Johana
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<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m06YqR09UXw>
2017-08-23T10:49:11.000677
Johana
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if you want to take a closer look at the processes running i would check out process explorer.<https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer>
2017-08-23T10:51:56.000609
Johana
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the sysinternals suite is portable so you won’t need to install anything on your server.
2017-08-23T10:52:36.000156
Johana
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Thanks <@Johana> I have sysinternals. I have been looking for some resources for learning it better. I'll watch that video today
2017-08-23T11:10:46.000608
Abigail
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hi
2017-08-23T11:17:45.000633
Flor
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hello
2017-08-23T13:18:46.000266
Luann
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hi and welcome!!
2017-08-23T16:11:35.000614
Rickey
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is there a group for pandas?
2017-08-23T17:32:54.000047
Thelma
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<#C0JB9ATQV|data_science> should cover thqt
2017-08-23T17:43:09.000193
Meg
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<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45849704/django-allauth-replace-labels> Can someone with experience in Allauth look at this for me? Greatly appreciated.
2017-08-23T18:13:52.000207
Karren
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