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Likely not. lol
2017-08-08T14:21:43.207120
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T14:21:43.207120
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pythondev
help
My book is pretty niche
2017-08-08T14:21:54.214183
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T14:21:54.214183
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help
Sort of a how to put flask into production
2017-08-08T14:22:08.222165
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T14:22:08.222165
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help
yea i had my own ideas in that area too. we’ll have stuff for the community at some point.
2017-08-08T14:22:39.241175
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-08-08T14:22:39.241175
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pythondev
help
Nice
2017-08-08T14:22:50.247632
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T14:22:50.247632
1,502,202,170.247632
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pythondev
help
i got an email about this today. it seems pretty good.
2017-08-08T14:37:19.780743
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-08-08T14:37:19.780743
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pythondev
help
<http://python101.pythonlibrary.org/>
2017-08-08T14:37:20.781458
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-08-08T14:37:20.781458
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That book does look good. I got a free copy when he gave it away on Reddit last year, and have bookmarked the link since he posted it online for free now.
2017-08-08T14:38:03.807914
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-08T14:38:03.807914
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pythondev
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haha i did the free copy thing too.
2017-08-08T14:38:16.815761
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-08-08T14:38:16.815761
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pythondev
help
That may have been how I ended up using ConfigObj for everything, I think.
2017-08-08T14:38:41.830734
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-08T14:38:41.830734
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pythondev
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soooo many free resources. that’s why i’m shocked when ppl pay for classes and they are learning on their own.
2017-08-08T14:39:23.855371
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-08-08T14:39:23.855371
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pythondev
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I know. And so many of the classes are outdated or poorly done.
2017-08-08T14:39:39.865236
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-08T14:39:39.865236
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pythondev
help
for work i can see being sent to some training.
2017-08-08T14:39:59.876558
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-08-08T14:39:59.876558
1,502,203,199.876558
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pythondev
help
I've been doing this for 18 months, I think, and that book still has things I've not done.
2017-08-08T14:40:01.877983
Meghan
pythondev_help_Meghan_2017-08-08T14:40:01.877983
1,502,203,201.877983
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pythondev
help
humblebookbundle recently did a bunch of python books, can't wait to get stuck into them. the resources for learning are pretty awesome
2017-08-08T14:44:54.052986
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T14:44:54.052986
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pythondev
help
i really liked violent python, but it was in python-2.x
2017-08-08T14:49:10.206347
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T14:49:10.206347
1,502,203,750.206347
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pythondev
help
i have that but haven't read it yet, does it matter if it's py2 specific?
2017-08-08T14:51:38.295695
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T14:51:38.295695
1,502,203,898.295695
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pythondev
help
these days it isn’t a stretch to go py2 to py3
2017-08-08T14:51:45.299294
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-08-08T14:51:45.299294
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pythondev
help
thats what i was thinking too
2017-08-08T14:51:55.305233
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T14:51:55.305233
1,502,203,915.305233
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pythondev
help
anyone here deploying docker containers on aws in production? curious how you're doing it. theres different ways.
2017-08-08T16:48:51.257858
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T16:48:51.257858
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pythondev
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its not too bad. it would just be nice to copy code directly and see it work.
2017-08-08T17:00:07.627008
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:00:07.627008
1,502,211,607.627008
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pythondev
help
its actually not a problem for me at all
2017-08-08T17:00:30.640004
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:00:30.640004
1,502,211,630.640004
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pythondev
help
ill still code in 2.x
2017-08-08T17:00:37.643671
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:00:37.643671
1,502,211,637.643671
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pythondev
help
im slowly starting to write more 3.x now
2017-08-08T17:00:51.651597
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:00:51.651597
1,502,211,651.651597
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pythondev
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but every time i tell <@Bruno> i got a new book, the first thing he asks is if its py2 or py3
2017-08-08T17:01:33.674806
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:01:33.674806
1,502,211,693.674806
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pythondev
help
lol. mostly because of how stubborn you used to be on using 2. so now its more habit and amusing.
2017-08-08T17:02:39.710246
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:02:39.710246
1,502,211,759.710246
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pythondev
help
lol
2017-08-08T17:03:03.722823
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:03:03.722823
1,502,211,783.722823
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pythondev
help
back when i was mostly webscraping using urllib.. i didn’t like that i had to decode it in 3
2017-08-08T17:03:38.741719
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:03:38.741719
1,502,211,818.741719
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pythondev
help
you should just write your own version of that book in python 3 (with async of course) and make it forward compatible with python 4
2017-08-08T17:03:45.745778
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:03:45.745778
1,502,211,825.745778
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pythondev
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no
2017-08-08T17:04:01.754210
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:04:01.754210
1,502,211,841.75421
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pythondev
help
lol
2017-08-08T17:04:03.755353
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:04:03.755353
1,502,211,843.755353
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pythondev
help
im gonna be just as stubborn about py4 (wtf is that) and async as i was about py2
2017-08-08T17:04:39.774031
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:04:39.774031
1,502,211,879.774031
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pythondev
help
lol
2017-08-08T17:04:41.775414
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:04:41.775414
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pythondev
help
is there a big thing between py2 and 3 still?
2017-08-08T17:04:53.781156
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T17:04:53.781156
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as far as i know, just a differences in the imports / things being bytes instead of strings
2017-08-08T17:05:33.802188
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:05:33.802188
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pythondev
help
not as much anymore.
2017-08-08T17:05:35.802997
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:05:35.802997
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pythondev
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theres more differences underneath. but most arent too much of an issue. unless you are Zed Shaw
2017-08-08T17:06:09.820154
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:06:09.820154
1,502,211,969.820154
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pythondev
help
also, isn’t 3.6 when lists and dicts were ordered?
2017-08-08T17:06:11.821545
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:06:11.821545
1,502,211,971.821545
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pythondev
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yes
2017-08-08T17:06:18.825113
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:06:18.825113
1,502,211,978.825113
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pythondev
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i read the zed shaw stuff, he sounds a bit crazy imo tbh
2017-08-08T17:06:34.833329
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T17:06:34.833329
1,502,211,994.833329
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pythondev
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dicts, lists are always ordered
2017-08-08T17:06:38.835681
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:06:38.835681
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pythondev
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there were _technically_ ordered before. it just wasnt garanteed
2017-08-08T17:06:40.836193
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:06:40.836193
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pythondev
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yeah but better not based your code on that
2017-08-08T17:06:44.838188
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:06:44.838188
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pythondev
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^ thats what i meant
2017-08-08T17:06:59.846612
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:06:59.846612
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it's now garanteed but subject to change as it's an implementation detail
2017-08-08T17:07:03.848336
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:07:03.848336
1,502,212,023.848336
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pythondev
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yea you shouldnt
2017-08-08T17:07:03.848515
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:07:03.848515
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pythondev
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yea
2017-08-08T17:07:09.851472
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:07:09.851472
1,502,212,029.851472
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pythondev
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i don't know if they are in PyPi
2017-08-08T17:07:15.854443
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:07:15.854443
1,502,212,035.854443
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pythondev
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yes they are
2017-08-08T17:07:21.857222
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:07:21.857222
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thats where they got the new code from
2017-08-08T17:07:29.861135
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:07:29.861135
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pythondev
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would there ever be a reason for it to be unordered ?
2017-08-08T17:07:30.861945
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T17:07:30.861945
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pythondev
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they stoled it
2017-08-08T17:07:40.866323
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:07:40.866323
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seems like a step backwards if that ever happens
2017-08-08T17:07:40.866703
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T17:07:40.866703
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pythondev
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speed I guess
2017-08-08T17:07:40.866728
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:07:40.866728
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pythondev
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speed should never matter though surly?
2017-08-08T17:07:56.874407
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T17:07:56.874407
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pythondev
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i think it was still an improvement if I recall
2017-08-08T17:07:59.875791
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:07:59.875791
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pythondev
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dict speed is pretty important as almost everything is a dict in python
2017-08-08T17:08:17.884848
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:08:17.884848
1,502,212,097.884848
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pythondev
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it was always weird when id pull a random out of a list
2017-08-08T17:08:30.890891
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:08:30.890891
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pythondev
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since they changed other things or how part of the algorithm worked. i think.
2017-08-08T17:08:32.892043
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:08:32.892043
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pythondev
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it was an improvement but I'm talking about the future
2017-08-08T17:08:38.895350
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:08:38.895350
1,502,212,118.89535
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pythondev
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yea
2017-08-08T17:08:58.905115
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:08:58.905115
1,502,212,138.905115
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pythondev
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maybe someone will find a new algorithm much faster but that isn't ordered
2017-08-08T17:08:59.905468
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:08:59.905468
1,502,212,139.905468
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pythondev
help
3.6 has a ton of dict improvements!
2017-08-08T17:09:00.905532
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:09:00.905532
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pythondev
help
yup.
2017-08-08T17:09:20.915335
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:09:20.915335
1,502,212,160.915335
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pythondev
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yeah there are great talks from raymond hettinger about them
2017-08-08T17:09:20.915453
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:09:20.915453
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pythondev
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they got a lot from pypy too. so hopefully, it will help them catch up faster
2017-08-08T17:09:38.923988
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:09:38.923988
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pythondev
help
if you are on 3.5 no reason to not use 3.6
2017-08-08T17:09:43.926419
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:09:43.926419
1,502,212,183.926419
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pythondev
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hettinger has a lot of good talks anyways
2017-08-08T17:09:58.933591
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:09:58.933591
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pythondev
help
with their funding pypi is improving a lot their python 3 support
2017-08-08T17:10:12.939977
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:10:12.939977
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pythondev
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yea. thanks to Mozilla.
2017-08-08T17:10:22.945275
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:10:22.945275
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pythondev
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they got intitial 3.5 support super fast
2017-08-08T17:10:37.952400
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:10:37.952400
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That's a company I would love to work with
2017-08-08T17:10:39.953601
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:10:39.953601
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pythondev
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same.
2017-08-08T17:10:44.955814
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:10:44.955814
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pythondev
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yeah but not sure it's financially stable enough
2017-08-08T17:10:59.963204
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:10:59.963204
1,502,212,259.963204
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pythondev
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i have heard redhat is nice to work for too. i technically applied recently, but never heard anything.
2017-08-08T17:11:19.973188
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:11:19.973188
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i dont think it is yet
2017-08-08T17:11:36.980930
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:11:36.980930
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pythondev
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working on ansible :smile:
2017-08-08T17:11:37.981596
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:11:37.981596
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pythondev
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Mozilla has millions annually just for featuring Yahoo as the default search engine
2017-08-08T17:11:37.981755
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:11:37.981755
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pythondev
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heh
2017-08-08T17:11:51.988414
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:11:51.988414
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pythondev
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yeah but it's all based on donation. It can stop at any time
2017-08-08T17:11:58.991398
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-08-08T17:11:58.991398
1,502,212,318.991398
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pythondev
help
what % of yahoos income is that. lol
2017-08-08T17:12:05.994816
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:12:05.994816
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I think that one is contractually obligated for 7 years
2017-08-08T17:12:21.002495
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:12:21.002495
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its been a few years already
2017-08-08T17:12:33.008092
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:12:33.008092
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pythondev
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Hi guys , what is the equivalent of extern Sdk* Sdk_new2(const char * ip);
2017-08-08T17:13:28.033665
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:13:28.033665
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this in C I need for Pyhton
2017-08-08T17:13:44.041340
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:13:44.041340
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i have no clue. im not a C guy.
2017-08-08T17:14:49.072276
Bruno
pythondev_help_Bruno_2017-08-08T17:14:49.072276
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pythondev
help
i could guess but i won't
2017-08-08T17:15:27.090913
Tandra
pythondev_help_Tandra_2017-08-08T17:15:27.090913
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pythondev
help
<https://docs.python.org/2/extending/extending.html>
2017-08-08T17:16:35.123211
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:16:35.123211
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^ you could always just use the c code
2017-08-08T17:16:59.134244
Orpha
pythondev_help_Orpha_2017-08-08T17:16:59.134244
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what you mean in that?
2017-08-08T17:18:40.182324
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:18:40.182324
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pythondev
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You need to provide more context <@Elanor> , with what you've shown there is next to no context
2017-08-08T17:19:20.200731
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:19:20.200731
1,502,212,760.200731
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pythondev
help
Depending on what headers are imported, Sdk could be anything
2017-08-08T17:19:35.207288
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:19:35.207288
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pythondev
help
I don't have any headers imported in Python , I only import shared libraries
2017-08-08T17:20:09.223391
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:20:09.223391
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pythondev
help
.so
2017-08-08T17:20:10.223870
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:20:10.223870
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pythondev
help
Okay, so what shared object libraries?
2017-08-08T17:20:40.237529
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:20:40.237529
1,502,212,840.237529
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That's context :wink:
2017-08-08T17:20:43.238966
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:20:43.238966
1,502,212,843.238966
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pythondev
help
In C++ the headers name is SDK
2017-08-08T17:20:43.238976
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:20:43.238976
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I'm calling function from this shared library
2017-08-08T17:21:17.255160
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:21:17.255160
1,502,212,877.25516
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pythondev
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in Linxu
2017-08-08T17:21:20.256602
Elanor
pythondev_help_Elanor_2017-08-08T17:21:20.256602
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Is this python C-extension specific, or something else?
2017-08-08T17:21:22.257793
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-08-08T17:21:22.257793
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