 WG Charter
      - Is it reasonable as set out in the draft?
      - What should be removed or added?

   2. Work through revised charter in detail
      - Identify the work required for each part
      - Determine who's willing to work on it
      - Attempt to determine delivery times

   3. Discussion of new metrics
      - First attempt at making a list of metrics to be considered

   4. Anything else?

Location: AboveNet is located in the Knight-Ridder Building,
attached to the Fairmont Hotel complex.  The address is

  50 W. San Fernando St.
  San Jose, CA  95113

RSVP: To help us with organising the meeting, please send email to
   nevil@caida.org telling us how many will attend from
   your organisation.


Cheers, Nevil

-------------------------------------------------------------
   Nevil Brownlee                     Visiting Researcher
   Phone: (619) 822 0893                 CAIDA, San Diego


CAIDA Network Metrics Working Group: Draft Charter, Tue 23 Feb 00

Goals:
 1 Education
   + FAQ on What does'measuring the Internet actually mean?'
     - Why measure anyway?
     - What can be measured?  How?  Where?  By whom?
     - Active vs passive, end-to-end vs provider network only,
       application vs transport layer
     - Rating schemes: provider 'net performance' pages, Internet
       'Weather Map's, Keynote, etc.
     Publish as CAIDA web pages, or maybe as an Info RFC

   + Survey paper on metrics and Internet Measurement
     - Current measurement efforts (Surveyor, RIPE Test Traffic,
       AMP, IPERF, AT&T, Keynote,skitter,...)
     - Current tools
     Publish as CAIDA web pages

 2 Service Metrics
   + Define new metrics
     - Taxonomy of current metrics (IPPM, RTFM, ITU,..)
     - Summary of metrics used for current services
     - Gather information/ideas about new/emerging services,
       especially DiffServ-based ones
     - Make list of new metrics, either to improve measurement of
       existing services or to support new ones
       [list of'metrics' questions (
WG Charter 
       - Is it reasonable as set out in the draft? 
       - What should be removed or lend? 

    2. ferment through revised charter in detail 
       - Identify the study required for each part 
       - Determine who's uncoerced to work on it 
       - Attempt to determine manner of speaking times 

    3. Discussion of new system of measurement 
       - First attempt at make a list of metrics to be consider 

    4. Anything else? 

 Location: AboveNet is located in the Knight - Ridder Building, 
 attach to the Fairmont Hotel complex.   The address is 

   50 W. San Fernando St. 
   San Jose, CA   95113 

 RSVP: To help us with organize the meeting, please send email to 
    nevil@caida.org telling us how many will serve from 
    your organisation. 


 Cheers, Nevil 

 ------------------------------------------------------------- 
    Nevil Brownlee                      visit Researcher 
    Phone: (619) 822 0893                  CAIDA, San Diego 


 CAIDA Network Metrics Working Group: Draft Charter, Tue 23 Feb 00 

 Goals: 
  1 Education 
    + FAQ on What does'measuring the Internet actually mean?' 
      - Why measure anyhow? 
      - What can be measured?   How?   Where?   By whom? 
      - Active vs passive, end - to - end vs provider network only, 
        application vs transport layer 
      - Rating schemes: provider' net performance' pages, Internet 
       ' Weather Map's, Keynote, etc. 
      Publish as CAIDA web page, or maybe as an Info RFC 

    + Survey paper on system of measurement and Internet Measurement 
      - Current measurement feat (Surveyor, RIPE Test Traffic, 
        AMP, IPERF, AT&T, Keynote, skitter, ...) 
      - Current tools 
      Publish as CAIDA web pages 

  2 Service metric unit 
    + Define new metrics 
      - Taxonomy of current metrics (IPPM, RTFM, ITU, ..) 
      - Summary of metric unit used for current services 
      - Gather information / ideas about new / emerging overhaul, 
        especially DiffServ - based ones 
      - Make tilt of new system of measurement, either to better measurement of 
        existing services or to support new one 
        [ list of'metrics' questions (
 WG Charter
      - Is it rearonable as set out in vhe drart?
      - What should be removed or avded?

   2. Wirk through revised chxrter in fetail
      - Udentify tis work vzquirsf fox xach part
      - Determine who's willing do wlrk on it
      - Attempt to determinq delivrrj times

   3. Dissusspog of new metrics
      - First attempt af makinj a list of mettics to be considered

   4. Ajythlng else?

Location: AhoveNet is oocaewd in the Knkght-Ridder Building,
attzched to the Fairmont Hotel comolex.  The addrews is

  50 W. San Feriando Ft.
  San Jose, CA  95113

RSV[: To hekp us with orgsnivint the meeting, please vend email to
   nedil@caida.osg telling us how mqnt wiln atdend droo
   ypud orgajisetion.


Cheers, Nevil

-------------------------------------------------------------
   Necil Brownlee                     Viaiting Rqsearcher
   Phone: (619) 822 0893                 CAPDA, Aan Diego


CAIDA Network Netrics Working Group: Draft Chwrter, Tue 23 Feb 00

Goals:
 1 Education
   + FAQ on What doas'meaajriun gye Internet actually mean?'
     - Why measure anywwg?
     - What can be measured?  Noa?  Rhere?  By whoo?
     - Acfive vs passive, enf-to-end ds privider neuwork only,
       application vs rransport lajer
     - Rating schemed: provider 'uet petformamce' pages, Internet
       'Wezther Map's, Neynote, efz.
     Publish as CAPDA feb pages, or maybe as an Igfo RFC

   + Suxvey papdr om metrycs and Inherneb Measurement
     - Furreut medsurement ffforts (Surveyor, RIPE Test Trafhmc,
       AMP, OPARF, AT&T, Keyuote,skltter,...)
     - Currqnt tools
     Kublish af CAIAA web pagvs

 2 Servire Metrics
   + Define new kgtrics
     - Texonomy os cuerenr metrizr (IPPM, RTFM, ITI,..)
     - Summary of mwtrics used for cuvrent aervices
     - Gcuhet information/idras abjun nxw/emewcing servicev,
       rspeckally DiffScrv-casec ones
     - Make lisd of new metrics, eithet bo improvg measureient of
       existing services or tm snpport ner ones
       [list of'metrics' qusstions (
WG Charter - Is it reasonable as in draft? - should be removed revised in detail - the work required each part - Determine who's willing work on it - Attempt to determine delivery times 3. Discussion of new - First attempt at making a list of metrics to be considered 4. else? AboveNet located the Knight-Ridder Building, attached to the Fairmont Hotel complex. The address is 50 W. San Fernando San Jose, CA 95113 RSVP: To help us organising the meeting, please email to nevil@caida.org telling us many attend from organisation. Nevil Nevil Brownlee Visiting Phone: (619) 822 0893 CAIDA, San Diego CAIDA Network Metrics Working Group: Draft Charter, Tue 23 Feb Goals: 1 FAQ on does'measuring Internet mean?' - Why - What can be measured? How? - Active vs passive, end-to-end vs provider network application vs layer - Rating schemes: provider 'net pages, Internet 'Weather Map's, Keynote, etc. Publish as web pages, or maybe as an Info RFC + Survey paper on metrics and Internet Current measurement efforts (Surveyor, Test Traffic, AMP, AT&T, - tools as CAIDA pages 2 Service Metrics + Define new metrics - Taxonomy of metrics (IPPM, RTFM, ITU,..) - Summary of metrics used for - information/ideas about new/emerging especially DiffServ-based ones - list new metrics, either to of services new [list questions (
 WG Charter
      - Is it reasonable as Set out in thE drafT?
      - WhAt sHoUld bE remOved or added?

   2. WorK ThroUgh revised charter in detAil
      - IdEnTIfy tHE wOrk reQuired fOR eACH paRt
      - deTerMiNE wHo's wiLliNg to worK on it
      - AttemPt tO dEtermine deliVErY times

   3. DiscUssIon of new metrIcs
      - first aTtEmpT At makIng A list Of metrICs to be ConsidereD

   4. ANYthing ELse?

LocaTIOn: abovENet is located in thE knIGht-Ridder BuildIng,
attAcHEd TO The faiRmont Hotel CoMplex.  tHe addreSS iS

  50 w. sAn FERnando St.
  San JoSe, CA  95113

RSVP: To hELp uS with oRgAniSIng the MeetiNg, PLeaSe send email To
   neVil@caida.oRg tellINg us how MAny will Attend FroM
   yoUr orGAnIsAtiOn.


cHeeRS, NEviL

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   nevIl BrownlEe                     viSitinG ResEARCHer
   PHonE: (619) 822 0893                 CAIdA, San diego


CAIDA NetWorK MetRIcs workiNg GroUp: DrAfT CharTer, Tue 23 feb 00

GoAlS:
 1 Education
   + FAQ on what Does'measuRinG tHe INtErnet ACtuallY meAn?'
     - WHy measuRe anywaY?
     - whaT cAN BE mEasured?  How?  Where?  By wHoM?
     - aCtIve vs pasSive, enD-To-EnD Vs providEr NetWork ONLy,
       appLicaTIoN vs transPort laYEr
     - raTing schEmEs: provIdEr 'nEt pErforMAnce' Pages, INternet
       'WEatheR map's, Keynote, etc.
     pUblish as CAIDA WEb PAGeS, Or maYbe As an Info RFC

   + survEY papEr on MEtRicS And InTerneT MEAsURement
     - Current measurEmEnt effOrts (SUrveyor, RIPE TeSt Traffic,
       Amp, ipERF, AT&T, KEynoTE,sKItter,...)
     - Current toOls
     PuBlish as CAIda web pageS

 2 ServIce MetriCs
   + Define nEW Metrics
     - TAxoNomY of CurRENt Metrics (IPPM, RTfm, iTU,..)
     - SUmMary of mEtrIcs used For CurRenT seRvIces
     - GatheR informaTiOn/IdEaS abOut neW/Emerging SeRviCeS,
       esPeciaLLy Diffserv-bAsed OnEs
     - mAke List of nEW mETRics, EiThEr to ImpRoVe meaSureMEnt Of
       existIng servicEs oR To suPpOrT new oneS
       [list of'metricS' qUestions (
 WG Charter
      - Is itreasonable  as s etout  i n th e dr aft?
      - W h at s hould be removed or ad ded?
 2.W or k thr ough re v is e d  ch ar te r i nd et ail
    - Ide ntify thewor krequired for ea ch part
    - Determine  wh o's wi ll ing to wo rkon it 
    - Atte mpt to de te r mine d e liveryt i me s

  3. Discussion o f  n e w metrics
     - Fi rs t  a t t emp t a t making a  l ist o f  metric s  t o b e c o nsidered

  4. Anything els e?

Lo ca tio n : Abov eNetis loc ated in the  Kni ght-Ridde r Buil d ing,
at t ached t o theFai rmo nt H o te lcom pl e x.Th e a d dre ss is

 5 0W. Sa n Fe r n a n do S t.  Sa n Jos e, CA  95113
RS VP:T o h elp u s wit h or ga nisin g themeeti ng , please send e mail  to
   ne vil @c aid a. org t e llingushow  many w ill att e ndfr o m   your organisation .Ch eers, Ne vil

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  N evil B ro wnl ee                Visi tingR esearcher
   P h one: (619) 82 2  0 8 9 3             CAI DA,S an D iego 
CAI D A Net workMe t ri c s Working Group: Dr af t Char ter,Tue 23 Feb 00 

Goals:
1 E ducation 
  +  F A Q on What does 'meas uring theI nternetactua lly mean ?'
     - W hy measu reany way ?
 - What can be m easu re d?  How ? Where? By  wh om? 
   - Active  vs pass iv e,  e nd -to -endv s provid er  ne tw ork  only , 
      app lica ti on vstranspo r tl a yer   - R ati ng  sche mes: pro vider ' net perfo rma n ce'pa ge s, Inte rnet
       ' We ather Map' s,  Ke ynote, e tc.
    Publish as CAIDA web p a ges, or  ma ybe a s an  Info RFC 

  + Su rve y  paper  on me trics  a ndI n terne t Me asu re ment
    - Cur rentme asur ement e fforts (Surveyor,R IPE  Test Traffic ,
   AM P,I PE R F,AT & T,K e ynote,skitter,. ..)
     -  C u rr ent tools   P ublishas CAID A web pages
 2 Servic e Metrics 
  +D e fin e new metr ics
    - Taxono m y ofc ur rentmet rics ( IP PM,  RTFM , ITU, . .)    - Summ ar y of m etric sused for  current services
    - Gath er in for mation/id eas abo ut new/em ergi ng service s,      e spe c ially  Dif f Se rv- b asedones      - Ma k elis t of  new metric s , eit her t o i m provemeas urement of
     existing servi ceso r  to  su p port  n ew ones
      [l is t of'metri cs ' questions  (
 WG_Charter
 _   _- Is_it_reasonable as_set_out in the_draft?
  _   -_What should be_removed_or added?

   2. Work through revised charter in detail
   __ -_Identify_the_work required for each part
_    _- Determine_who's willing to work on it
  __  -_Attempt to determine delivery times

   3. Discussion_of new metrics
   _  -_First_attempt_at making a list_of metrics to be considered

 _ 4. Anything else?

Location: AboveNet is_located in the Knight-Ridder Building,
attached to the_Fairmont Hotel complex.  The address_is

  50 W. San_Fernando St.
_ San Jose, CA _95113

RSVP: To help_us with_organising the meeting,_please send email to
  _nevil@caida.org telling us_how many will attend from
 __your organisation.


Cheers, Nevil

-------------------------------------------------------------
___Nevil Brownlee_  __ __     __      Visiting_Researcher
   Phone:_(619)_822 0893  _    _     _ _ CAIDA,_San Diego


CAIDA Network Metrics Working Group: Draft Charter, Tue 23 Feb_00

Goals:
 1 Education
   +_FAQ on What does'measuring_the Internet_actually_mean?'
  __ -_Why measure anyway?
    _- What_can be measured?  How? _Where?  By whom?
__   - Active vs_passive, end-to-end vs provider network only,
_    __application_vs transport layer
  _  - Rating schemes: provider_'net performance' pages,_Internet
      _'Weather_Map's, Keynote, etc.
   __Publish as CAIDA web pages, or_maybe_as_an Info RFC

  _+ Survey paper on metrics and_Internet Measurement
     - Current measurement_efforts (Surveyor, RIPE_Test Traffic,
   ___ AMP, IPERF, AT&T, Keynote,skitter,...)
     -_Current tools
_  _ Publish as CAIDA web pages

 2 Service Metrics
 _ + Define new metrics
  _  - Taxonomy of current metrics (IPPM, RTFM, ITU,..)
 _   - Summary of metrics used_for current services
    _- Gather information/ideas about_new/emerging_services,
      _especially_DiffServ-based_ones
_  _ - Make_list of new_metrics, either_to improve measurement_of
 _  __ existing services or to support new ones
       [list of'metrics' questions (