Join Alice and Buddy for a very special interview with John Kemper and Dave Cooperstein of PGAV Destinations, the team behind some of the world’s most famous Animal Attractions, including Zoos and Aquariums! What are some of the challenges and goals of working with animals? How do these places differ from more traditional theme parks? What are the roles of education and technology in considering the design choices made?

All this and more on this excellent interview!

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Those Happy Places is Produced by Alice White and Edited By Buddy Duquesne. Our theme song is Golden Gate by the California Feetwarmers, Featuring Phil Alvin.

Additional music comes from Kevin Macleod. All Tracks Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License. Tracks in this Episode: Bummin on Tremolo, Awesome Call, Long Stroll, George Street Shuffle, No Good Layabouts, Apero Hour, Airship Serenity, Covert Affair, Crinoline Dreams, Secret of Tiki Island, Off to Osaka, Mister Exposition, Samba Isobel