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It's like, what just came out of his mouth?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
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That was hilarious.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
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1,087.194
1,088.755
So I like that you have a sense of humor.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
292
1,088.795
1,101.764
I like that you keep things light, and I also like that you put things in layman's terms for us because you're talking digital currency, and a lot of people think of you with your CloudCoin image,
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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1,102.484
1,104.766
in the world of cryptocurrency.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
294
1,105.126
1,107.027
Cryptocurrency is on the blockchain.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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1,107.667
1,108.568
Yours is not.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
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1,108.768
1,110.509
And you have the perfect money.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
297
1,110.589
1,112.23
So tell us about that.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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1,113.731
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Well, I certainly like to keep things simple.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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1,116.232
1,119.034
But don't ask me about crypto key exchanges.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
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1,119.654
1,126.679
But we have a very simple currency that instead of having this blockchain and all of this encryption going on, it's just a file.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
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1,127.139
1,128.68
And the file has a bunch of passwords in it.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
302
1,129.358
1,130.939
And it's got a serial number in there as well.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
303
1,131.459
1,134.24
So if I want to pay you some money, I'm going to send you this file.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
304
1,135.04
1,136.801
And now we both have these passwords.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
305
1,137.341
1,145.904
And anybody that has the passwords can just go to all these servers around the world, change them, and now you're the new owner because you have the passwords and I don't.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
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1,146.484
1,147.705
And so it's much simpler.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
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1,147.725
1,148.985
It's easy for people to use.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
308
1,149.025
1,151.006
You don't have to have an account or sign up for anything.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
309
1,151.866
1,156.528
And you don't have to worry about losing your crypto keys and just losing all your money.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
310
1,156.548
1,158.209
So it's designed to be much better.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
311
1,159.008
1,162.27
And this is the CloudCoin, right, which is actually even a picture.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
312
1,162.45
1,163.771
It's like a JPEG, isn't it?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
313
1,164.932
1,173.697
Yeah, often we take the passwords and the serial number and we hide them into files such as PNG images.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
314
1,174.138
1,178.861
So you get this PNG image and you don't even know that it has money in it.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
315
1,178.881
1,180.442
We could put it in any kind of file format.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
316
1,181.482
1,182.563
Okay, okay.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
317
1,182.943
1,184.084
So that's CloudCoin.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
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318
1,186.187
1,186.527
Okay.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
319
1,186.848
1,187.108
All right.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
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320
1,187.448
1,191.291
And it's not cryptocurrency.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
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321
1,191.611
1,192.332
It's digital currency.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
322
1,192.392
1,193.632
It doesn't use any electricity.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
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1,194.373
1,197.816
It's very just a password swap.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
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1,197.956
1,199.837
It is the fastest payment system in the world.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
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1,200.417
1,202.659
We can do millions of transactions per second.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
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326
1,203.059
1,205.721
We can finish a transaction in half a second.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
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1,205.841
1,206.862
No electricity, no fees.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
328
1,206.922
1,210.745
So it's probably the best for the environment if you care about that.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
329
1,211.798
1,216.259
So the cryptocurrency deals with a lot of electricity.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
330
1,217.739
1,221
Yeah, it's kind of the basis of Bitcoin and some other ones.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
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331
1,221.72
1,228.722
They believed when they set them up that money should be like gold, and that means that you should have to mine it.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
332
1,229.222
1,238.264
And basically when they mine it, they just kind of pretend like you've got a bunch of a field with square feet that are empty, and you have to dig up them by guessing numbers.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
333
1,238.905
1,240.685
And if you get the right number, you'll find the gold.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
334
1,241.534
1,243.975
And it's really just a big, giant waste of electricity, I think.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
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1,245.855
1,247.496
That's why you created what you created.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
336
1,247.516
1,248.896
That's right.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
337
1,249.897
1,250.437
That's right.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
338
1,250.517
1,252.438
So how's it been going with the CloudCoin?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
339
1,253.798
1,255.078
Well, it's going very good.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
340
1,255.138
1,258.92
We're on to our – we just are releasing our third version.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
341
1,258.94
1,260.98
And it's like three times as a charm.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
342
1,261.441
1,263.961
This one has just excellent characteristics.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
343
1,265.262
1,265.422
And –
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
344
1,266.394
1,272.376
We're getting ready to plug in other cryptocurrencies into it so you can go in and just change from one to the other.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
345
1,273.116
1,274.897
So it's building an exchange into it.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
346
1,275.117
1,281.239
And exchanges have a problem in that they can be a choke point and a point where everybody can be surveilled.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
347
1,282.459
1,283.72
Nobody wants to be surveilled.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
348
1,284.72
1,294.103
So we've got a system in which you can trade without being surveilled and you don't have to pay any... Well, we're probably going to have a little bit of exchange fees, but not very much.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
349
1,295.379
1,299.524
All right, now I've got to ask you something because this sounds like inside information.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
350
1,299.604
1,303.709
Does that mean if I buy some, I'm going to be in trouble because you just gave me some information?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
351
1,303.729
1,305.331
Because this sounds huge.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
352
1,305.751
1,308.374
I'm just now hearing about this with you right now.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
353
1,308.715
1,310.857
So that sounds huge, right?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
354
1,310.877
1,312.86
I think it is huge.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
355
1,313.55
1,317.351
And this, keep in mind, is a global information system.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
356
1,317.791
1,321.471
The servers are in like Russia and Australia and Argentina, you name it.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
357
1,321.831
1,328.473
They're all spread out so there's no systemic risk of failure and no government can come in and shut the whole system down.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
358
1,329.433
1,337.134
So I'm not really worried about they could put me in jail and probably the coin would even do better because they would see that the founder is in jail and it's still working.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
359
1,337.714
1,342.075
So the idea is it's a libertarian concept and
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
360
1,342.975
1,355.04
It has the goals of allowing people to trade freely without the oppression of government, I should say.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
361
1,355.1
1,356.401
Now, you call it perfect money.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
362
1,356.561
1,369.247
So is this something that, let's say, anybody in charge, whether it's the president or whoever it would be, they would say, hey, okay, here's the money that would work forever.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
363
1,370.543
1,371.244
for everybody.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
364
1,371.264
1,373.789
Is that what that is designed to do?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
365
1,375.071
1,377.556
Yes, it's actually designed so that nations could
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
366
1,378.621
1,390.75
pick it up as well because if the United States of America was to use that technology, it would make the dollar absolutely powerful because it is basically a cash version that's digital.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
367
1,391.25
1,395.093
It has the same properties in that nobody knows you have it.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
368
1,395.253
1,397.955
Nobody knows that you're trading it because it's traded outside of the system.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
369
1,398.616
1,402.559
All they could monitor is just authentications and that really doesn't tell them anything.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
370
1,403.119
1,405.181
So it's just like the, um,
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
371
1,405.942
1,411.385
the physical dollar, except we can send it in a second overseas and all around the world.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
372
1,412.606
1,414.287
So that's what gives it real strength.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
373
1,414.367
1,425.915
And if the United States did that, they would be – in fact, I actually interviewed for what's called the Central Bank Digital Currency Director of Software Engineering for the Federal Reserve Bank.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
374
1,426.555
1,429.277
But unfortunately, they were woke.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
375
1,429.577
1,433.92
And so I think the Federal Reserve is not going to be much help when it comes to –
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
376
1,435.294
1,436.874
freedom and not being surveilled.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
377
1,438.015
1,442.555
See what I mean about his personality and little, little, little things come in that you start laughing about there.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
378
1,442.595
1,443.576
There's one of them right there.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
379
1,444.096
1,445.236
Okay.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
380
1,445.756
1,453.877
So let's, let's get down to, um, before you give some of your predictions, just want to get some credibility, some people to understand a little bit more about you.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
381
1,454.418
1,456.198
So what, what is money?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
382
1,456.338
1,457.638
What, what is money?
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_05
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
383
1,457.658
1,461.939
So money is an information system that we use
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
384
1,462.802
1,472.209
to track who created value for other people with the idea that if you created value for other people, then other people should give you value in return.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
385
1,473.13
1,487.101
And it inadvertently makes it so that we are productive and we are efficient because if the people that get the most value are the ones that are going to be the most efficient and productive,
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
386
1,487.958
1,490.2
And it allows us to go to the store and we see eggs.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
387
1,490.68
1,493.522
And the eggs all look the same, even though they're from different farmers.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18
WY_KVOW_2024_12_29_05_00
388
1,494.082
1,497.425
So we can make decisions based on price, who's the most efficient.
KVOW
2024-12-29T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_18