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Firmware 2019.8.2. Rolling Out Widely | I am not a early access or priority member and I just got an update for 8.2 just a week after I got 5.15. Will update post with what s included. Model 3 LR RWD Update: Changelog states - - Peak Power Increase - Summon with key fob - Sentry Mode (already had it in 5.15) - Dashcam Side Recording - Dog Mode | 2019-03-19 00:10:08 | 47 | Like others have said no Peak Power Increase on AWD Model 3 | 2019-03-19 00:20:48 | 47 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 6,660 |
Should Tesla fire Elon Musk for offensive tweet? Or some other sanction? | Earlier today Elon Musk called British diver Vern Unsworth a pedo in a seeming fit of rage. The tweet stayed up for several hours before it was deleted. News story here: [https: www.theguardian.com technology 2018 jul 15 elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter](https: www.theguardian.com technology 2018 jul 15 elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter) Screenshot of Tweet here: [https: twitter.com crushingbort status 1018506702931365888](https: twitter.com crushingbort status 1018506702931365888) Considering that Musk is the CEO of Tesla and considering that other CEOs have recently been dismissed or forced to resign because of outrageous comments (see Papa John s CEO for use of n-word Uber CEO for angry tirade at Uber driver) it s plausible to suggest this tweet is grounds for termination. At the very least it s going to be bad publicity for Tesla at a time when the company could use some good publicity. **Musk and Tesla are intertwined. How should Tesla respond to Musk s bad tweet?** | 2018-07-15 21:08:03 | 263 | He should issue an apology and take a break from twitter. | 2018-07-15 21:15:08 | 900 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 17,149 |
RPM Wood wrap | Has anyone picked up the new wood wrap from RPM Tesla? Curious how close of a match it is. To the dash. They don t seem to show any closeups in the install video or on their site which makes me think the shading might be off. | 2018-06-20 18:47:46 | 7 | [Their childish comments on a competitor s YouTube channel](https: youtu.be vwDjadxLJ38) was enough to seal the deal for me. Not a company I plan on doing business with. > It is only $39 here at the original company that made it. > Nice copy Pete you even copied our squeegee and all of our 3M material choices. Too bad you are $10 too expensive. Cheers > Your country of origin on your LED is China not Taiwan. Be accurate. > Best to keep your day job at Solera and stop trying to duplicate our products. | 2018-06-20 21:01:31 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,070 |
[Discussion]CAN-Network(Model Y) | At the moment it is unclear if Model Y will indeed include a new Bus-System. Currently Tesla follows the industry-wide standard CAN-network. It got developed years ago by German company BOSCH (some 400.000 employees). As Elon Musk mentioned drastic improvements on required wiring - much less which means way cheaper to produce as automating the wiring process during production is damn complicated - without a different architecture that seems impossible to me. -> What are your thoughts? I believe the best overview of the current way the tesla architecture looks like is that - from 2015. Unfortunately the really important autopilot system is missing. Whether Tesla might dare including those sensors and cameras in the common bus? I think for model Y it seems obvious that Tesla might try to achieve that. https: blog.lookout.com hacking-a-tesla | 2018-02-14 14:54:54 | 13 | They re moving to something Ethernet-based (though it was scrapped for Model Y IIRC). Lots of hub-hub about this 4-6 years ago (i.e. ironically when the Model S was debuting). Predicted to hit mainstream in 2020 though BMW claimed to make it an *automotive communication backbone* by 2018: did that ever pan out? FWIW an [excellent though short and technical read](http: standards.ieee.org events automotive 2015 00_Keynote_BMW_Introducing_Ethernet_v1.0.pdf) by a BMW Project Manager for IEEE. **[Ethernet: the fast track to the connected car | Automotive World (2015)](https: www.automotiveworld.com analysis ethernet-fast-track-connected-car )** > Ethernet cuts cabling cost and weight increasing bandwidth and data transfer speeds. Rachel Boagey looks at the role of Ethernet in the development of connected and autonomous cars > With significant increases in the volume and complexity of in-car electronics networking solutions that offer low-cost high speed transmission and bandwidth are becoming ever more necessary. **[In-Car Ethernet Isn t What You Think | Wired (2012)](https: www.wired.com 2012 10 in-car-ethernet )** > The average car has a few miles worth of cables and wires. They handle everything from controlling your anti-lock braking system to telling you how much fuel is left in the tank. Cables and wires are efficient and reliable. They re also heavy and expensive which is why Ethernet will be the next in-car connectivity standard.... **[Connected car s connector: Ethernet | Automotive News (2015)](http: www.autonews.com article 20150223 OEM06 302239991 connected-cars-connector%3A-ethernet)** > SAN FRANCISCO -- Cars and computers are converging and the plugs prove it. > Across the auto industry a transition is underway to Ethernet the networking system widely used to connect PCs to the Internet and one another. It is the best way most automakers and suppliers have decided to handle the huge amounts of data that next-generation driver-assist and infotainment systems will need to transmit and process.... **[The next wave of cars may use Ethernet | Computerworld (2014)](https: www.computerworld.com article 2836400 ethernet-is-coming-to-cars.html)** > The most ubiquitous local area networking technology used by big business may be packing its bags for a road trip. > As in-vehicle electronics become more sophisticated to support autonomous driving cameras and infotainment systems Ethernet has become a top contender for connecting them.... EDIT: Well this is an absolute rabbit hole. There s a [standards alliance called OPEN \(One Pair EtherNet\) for automotive Ethernet](http: www.opensig.org ) but Tesla s not a member yet. Maybe they re working on their own proprietary standard? | 2018-02-14 15:47:08 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 25,016 |
Any updates on Richmond Tesla Store? | It s been a while since we last heard anything about the Richmond VA showroom. I d love to see a model 3 in person before committing to options. [Richmond Showroom](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums tesla-allowed-open-new-showroom-richmond-virginia) | 2017-05-28 18:55:57 | 5 | Serious remodelling work has started. There are threads about this on TMC. | 2017-05-28 22:00:58 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,776 |
Stuck door handles on Model 3 | I ve had my Model 3 for going on 6 months now and I ve started to have issues with the door handles getting stuck. One would not fold back in after being released but would go back in slowly after being given a little nudge. Another started to develop the same issue and would only fold back in very slowly (with accompanying squeaks). It appears that after a time gunk may start to build up on the handle mechanism and cause these jams. This seems like a design flaw on Tesla s part and I can t imagine I have been the only one to experience this. The good news is that I was able to return the handles to their original functionality with some WD-40 applied at the back of the handle well. Curious if anyone else has had issues with stuck handles on their Model 3. | 2018-09-16 18:10:14 | 29 | Same issue. Mobile tech fixed it last week. He said the handle was rubbing the body panel. The problem was that the alignment tab that determines the handle s position was a little off. He just needed to hold the handle in the correct position while tightening the mounting screws. | 2018-09-16 18:21:14 | 32 | Model 3 phone key issues | 17,843 |
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Tesla Leasing experience - Help | I m looking to hear personal experience as well as leasing figures for the model S. Every time I use the Tesla lease calc I run in fear because the lease is so horrible. I ve leased 7 of my last 8 cars and the experience has always been easy beneficial and a significant cost savings on a cash flow basis (unless I run the math past 72 mos of car ownership). Has anyone been able to avoid the huge deposit required by Tesla? This is counter intuitive to the reason I lease. ($5000 down = $139 month payment) Is the $2500 order payment in addition to the $$ due at signing? Or is that just for custom inventory? Sounds like they will lease a CPO? Does it have to be a CPO that was never titled? Are they as forgiving on the back end with damage dents miles as other manufacturers are if you lease a new car with them? Anyone found a third party that makes the Tesla lease reasonable? Typically on a monthly cash flow basis my lease payment is about 30% less than a 60 mo payment on the same vehicle which makes the leasing math advantages. In Tesla s case the monthly lease and loan payment is almost the same which negates the logic to lease if I m not spending less money. Thanks | 2017-10-29 16:53:04 | 8 | Tesla leasing only seems to make sense for people who can use the payments for tax deductions because they re using the car for business or for people for whom the money doesn t matter. Tesla s not one of the brands with great lease deals. | 2017-10-29 17:00:51 | 8 | Tesla Lease Experience Considerations | 19,030 |
Having a problem getting a title from out-of-state purchase of Model 3 | Pre-apologizing if this is a little ranty. It really should be much easier to buy a car than what I m experiencing right now. I live in Michigan which has ass backwards laws regarding manufacturers selling directly to consumers (thank you dealership lobby...). Because of this I had to get my car from Cleveland Ohio. While the delivery process was fine and the car didn t have any show-stopper issues (1 tyre dustcap that they replaced right then and there) the process of getting the title transferred from an Ohio title to Michigan title is for lack of a better word asinine. Tesla requires my lender (Chase bank) to produce a title request letter to send to Ohio BMV so that they can produce a paper title to then send to me so that I can sit at the secretary of state for hours to get a license plate. I m getting the runaround I feel by Chase telling me that Tesla needs to do something before they can produce that request and then Tesla says Chase needs to sent that request before they can do anything. What are my options here? I ve had the car for 45 days now and had to get another temporary plate just so I can drive it legally. Have other Michiganders people who live in states that Tesla isn t allowed to sell in dealt with this kind of nonsense? EDIT: Thank you all for the tips!! Definitely going to follow up on these and not let off till I get that damn title request letter from my bank. Again to dissuade anyone who may be thinking so definitely not attacking Tesla in this regard. My delivery specialist has been absolutely outstanding with customer service and my car is beyond my dreams seriously never been in driven anything like it! | 2018-08-28 15:16:28 | 15 | In my experience of being in a state that cannot sell and doing pickup in a neighboring state... About two weeks after pickup Tesla sent to me in the mail the signed MVPA and the Manufacturer s Certificate of Origin. That s what you then take to the DMV to title and register. I did a loan so I took those forms to my bank credit union. They then did the actual application for the title and loan. It seems unusual to me that you would first title in Ohio then transfer title to Michigan. Really look into that. It seems wrong. I would think you should have zero interaction with Ohio DMV because you re not a resident and immediately took the car out of state. When you title and register a brand new car there is no prior title to transfer so that first time titling uses the MCO and MVPA in place of a title transfer. Cars also use a “use” tax rather than sales tax so no taxes should ve been paid in Ohio and when you title and register in Michigan they should charge you the “use tax.” Not that you asked about taxes. | 2018-08-28 15:39:03 | 7 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 7,717 |
Went shopping for an entry-level luxury sedan recently and here s what I found... | I m a Model S owner (love it) and Model 3 reservation holder. We live in a snowy northern climate want AWD for the 3 and are still waiting. We had a life event occur recently and need another car now. We can t wait any longer. So we decided to buy a used entry-level luxury car and will sell it when our 3 is available. So we went shopping. We looked at the 2017 Audi A4 and 2015-16 BMW 328i (never made it to Mercedes or Lexus). I was shocked at how bad they are. I think Tesla has ruined me for any ICE. I know it s an S and costs twice as much but still. What didn t I like? * Slow. They are such a dog when you step on the gas. Positively sluggish. * They rattle a lot. The engine creates so much vibration it spoils the driving experience. Noisy too. * The interior is a mess with all the buttons. The screen is tiny. Feels low tech. It s like the 90 s in there. Based upon this experience if the 3 is a “little Model S ” they re gonna demolish BMW Mercedes Lexus etc. Im sure that entry-level luxury ICE sales will fall off a cliff. Those guys better get their EVs to market fast if they want to survive. Btw - We eventually bought an A4 for ~$30k. Yuck. I hope I can get $25k-ish when I sell it in 6mo. Full disclosure I m a Tesla fanboy and have thought for years that EVs will take over the market. I could suffer from confirmation bias but those ICE s just sucked. | 2018-06-17 15:38:56 | 115 | You drove the crap 4 cylinder versions. Should at leave have tried the 340i and S4. | 2018-06-17 15:56:53 | 96 | Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences | 22,410 |
Michigan Owners What kind of Insurance Rates do you pay? | I m currently trying to price things out to see if owning a Tesla is going to be affordable for me. I know Michigan tends to be on the more pricey side of things for auto insurance (probably due to the no fault laws). Also if you re willing to reveal it the name of the company you use and any relevant discounts would be helpful as well. :) | 2017-03-13 17:30:23 | 9 | I m paying $1 576.90 annually through Allstate. We have three vehicles and home owners insurance with them. Additionally there are reductions for Anti-theft Passive Restraint Seat Belt Antilock Brakes Prior Insurance Premier Plus New Car Good Payer fullPay and other ebilling options. Costs less than my wife s Audi TT-RS. | 2017-03-13 18:41:47 | 5 | Tesla insurance pricing comparison | 11,444 |
Oklahoma HB 3994 Information Thread (No Bashing Please) | First of all for the love of God no Oklahoma bashing. It is what it is and we live here and make the best of it. This bill is not law and Tesla is not being forced to close its service centers. It was passed through committee with the title stripped (it cannot become law in this form). See this post for a response from a Republican state legislator on the committee. Essentially she states that the bill was passed back to the author for more work and to keep dialog open something that wouldn t happen if the bill was killed. Much thanks to the OP for this information. [https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments t667ze oklahoma\_hb\_3994\_isnt\_likely\_to\_pass\_more\_info\_in ](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments t667ze oklahoma_hb_3994_isnt_likely_to_pass_more_info_in ) The bill s author (himself the owner of a dealership yes that s very sketchy) swears they aren t trying to ban Tesla but rather protect consumers by including them in current regulations. [https: kfor.com news oklahoma-legislature trouble-for-tesla-bill-targets-electric-vehicles-in-oklahoma ?ipid=promo-link-block1](https: kfor.com news oklahoma-legislature trouble-for-tesla-bill-targets-electric-vehicles-in-oklahoma ?ipid=promo-link-block1) Tesla owners are skeptical. [https: kfor.com news local bill-to-be-potential-road-block-for-tesla-in-oklahoma ](https: kfor.com news local bill-to-be-potential-road-block-for-tesla-in-oklahoma ) There are also legislative deadlines that have to be met although I m not familiar enough with the process to figure out the exact dates. The legislative session will end in May though. It s likely that nothing will be resolved this year. Thoughts? | 2022-03-04 13:50:22 | 44 | I love it when anyone tries to defend dealerships by saying they protect consumers from those evil car manufacturers. The level of detachment from reality required in order to claim that with a straight face is staggering. It s like saying Ticketmaster protects us from those evil stage performers. | 2022-03-04 14:20:18 | 73 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,305 |
Question: Update on Musk s personal safety policy? | back in June a Tesla company email by Elon Musk got published where he states that he would take exceptional care of his now 33 000 workers > Going forward I ve asked that every injury be reported directly to me without exception. I m meeting with the safety team every week and would like to meet every injured person as soon as they are well so that I can understand from them exactly what we need to do to make it better. I will then go down to the production line and perform the same task that they perform. source: https: electrek.co 2017 06 02 elon-musk-tesla-injury-factory Now that is something I ve never seen from any other CEO of a large company - while I have no doubt that others take good care of their employees few cases are as highlighted in the media. I also wonder how he could ever find enough time to through with this. Are there any Tesla employees here who can & want to share to what extent he follows these promises? what changed after that email? maybe any personal stories if that s okay? | 2017-08-10 01:05:49 | 52 | [Sounds like it s getting better](http: www.businessinsider.com tesla-union-problems-possible-model-3-delays-2017-8) but there are concerns with the upcoming ramp up in production. | 2017-08-10 04:03:21 | 4 | Musk's Tesla Take-Private Saga | 15,947 |
Is anyone else having issues with TeslaCam? My left repeater doesn t seem to properly recording. Events show empty files for the left repeater. | As the title says- is anyone else having issues with Sentry Mode recording events? When I go to browse the files my left repeater files are 0KB. Very odd- is this something I should consider getting service for? I have software version 16.2 73d3f3c Model 3 HW2.5 | 2019-06-16 15:34:47 | 9 | This is a known bug that is hopefully going to fix with future update. Tesla is aware. I get this same issue with my right_repeater while parked. Works fine with driving. I have tried other flash drives with same issue. | 2019-06-16 15:39:12 | 4 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 9,928 |
Model X 90D 30 Day Owner Notes Review | We took delivery of our Model X on the evening of April 7th after a week of it getting pushed back for reasons that we now know included fixing the rear seat issue (and also likely more than a bit of being overwhelmed by fixing all the departing vehicles). A quick recap on the delivery experience is that they really should just wait until the car is actually at a store ready to pick up (or on a truck on its way to someone s home for a home delivery) and doing so would save a ton of customer grief. Our Model X is a 90D in Deep Metallic Blue with stock 20” wheels and tires black leather interior with the light headliner seven seats Autopilot the Premium upgrade package air suspension the accessory hitch and the 72A charging system upgrade. Overall the Model X is so far the best car I ve ever had with the previous holder of that title being my Mercedes CLK AMG 55 Cabriolet that I sold a little over a week before the delivery (sold not traded in because Tesla offered a dismal amount for trade-in). I ll do the cons first…I m trying to be honest and balanced here so please hold your down votes to the end if you have any. :) Cons in no particular order and with the caveat that although there are many I don t consider any of them serious: * It would be fantastic if the middle seats folded flat or were removable. I can live without this but it would be nice anyway. * The rear seats can be difficult to get into for older and shorter passengers if they don t realize that a) they can stand all the way up with the FWDs open and b) they understand that they can step on the entryway even though it is shiny and nice looking. * The sensor on the rear trunk missed an overhead beam in a parking garage once resulting in a small scratch on my spoiler. (EDIT: This appears to have been more my fault there s a way to stop it that I tried and failed to do and you can also set it to open a little less) * It sort of seems like a miss that you can t open the front doors with the key fob. They re either automatic or manual. * The automatic door is a little overzealous particularly if you re doing something like washing the car or puttering around the garage with the fob in your pocket. I know I can take it out obviously but maybe if I were to close the door once without getting in it could leave the door manual until I leave the vicinity and return again. * It similarly seems like a miss that you can t open and close the frunk all the way with the fob like you can the rear trunk. * Also on the frunk the way you have to manually close it - by pushing down on to points equidistant from the center of the front line of the hood - is not optimal particularly if you ve been driving through an area that results in a lot of bugs on your hood. I shouldn t have to wear gloves to close my hood. * The sun visors are vertically not very tall. This turns out not to be a huge issue and overall I m no more blinded driving the Model X with its gargantuan front windshield than I ve been in any other car I ve had. * There IS a “doubling” effect on distant lights at night. I had not even noticed it until I read about it here first and then I looked at it and thought “Oh. So what?” Honestly it makes zero difference to night driving even though ideally it wouldn t be there but I m not sure what the fix would be. * On plastic cover under the driver s side seat came off when I first moved the seat forward. It clipped right back on and has stayed on since. * We seem to have a potential issue where sometimes the front doors don t quite close. I think I have narrowed it down to happening because when the air cleaner is in bioweapon defense mode the positive pressure of the system prevents them from closing all the way…still debugging it. If my diagnosis is correct this should be repairable in software (on my Mercedes the windows would roll down a bit and then roll up once the door was closed properly…that would be doable in software with the current hardware and would solve an overpressure issue). (EDIT: At least one person thinks it should be doing that thing with the window so I ll be checking in with a service center to ask them about it) * My FWDs have so far been trouble-free *except* they re not awesome at detecting a person standing there and unfortunately neither am I. I have bopped a few relatives although there have been no serious injuries or damage to the car. * The audio touchscreen software seems like it could be better in particular the radio having only six presets. I now use the scrollable list of favorites instead but it s a little more clunky. There is room for at *least* a couple dozen presets and I have eclectic music taste. * All that glass is a bit of a pain to keep clean (first world problem) Pros in no particular order: * It is faster and thus more fun to drive than my previous car (which was already pretty fast). Even half-accelerating is enough to get a joyful reaction out of passengers. * Passenger and cargo capacity is excellent. First thing we did was drive seven people and all their luggage a few hundred miles to Disneyland and everyone was so comfortable that they fell asleep pretty much the whole way. * The interior is nicer and more comfortable than my Mercedes (which had their optional top-of-the-line “designo” edition interior). * Lots of cupholders and USB ports. * Phone pairing works well and the acoustics are good I ve even done work meetings inside the car. * I m not an audiophile (or one of those I must shake the car next to me with my overdriven bass in order for me to feel good about my genitals guys) but the standard audio is more than fine for my needs. * Bioweapon defense mode works well even in the cattle corridor along I-5 in California. * Charging is a breeze and I couldn t be much happier about going nowhere near gasoline. * Although I understand the appearance is a little polarizing I love the way the car looks and I get compliments and questions on it wherever we go. * There have been four software updates in the month I ve had it. I love that my car is getting better over time without me spending another dime. Autopilot Notes (with the understanding that it s Beta these are both pros and cons and the cons seem largely addressable in software): * It works fairly well overall where it works which is most places I have driven. * Earlier on automated lane changes were pretty abrupt jerky but with the last couple of software updates they feel smoother. * The hiccups where it makes a mistake sometimes are a little scary and can be surprising but are of course recoverable so far. * I have had the car apply brakes as if a car was entering my lane when said car was only close to the lane. Wishes: * I wish the software kept better track of miles traveled charging etc. in a user-accessible way - the info that Musk revealed about the Model S where a reporter was bashing the car and allegedly ran out of charge unexpectedly would be nice to have available. * I wish there were more apps for the touchscreen like the ones at TeslaApps.net but where I don t have to give personal details to yet another company to use. * As noted above I wish the second row seats folded flat and or were removable. That s about it in terms of what I can think of - **TL DR:** I recommend the car highly to anyone that asks it has no notable defects and is better than I expected (and I feel like I had pretty high expectations). | 2016-05-08 00:31:16 | 73 | AFAIK the trunk hatch does not have a sensor like the FWDs. Correct me if I m wrong but from what I understand it just has a customizable stop height if you press and hold the red liftgate close button on the trunk of the car. | 2016-05-08 02:26:02 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,758 |
Do you prefer chrome-delete (e.g Model Y) or regular chrome (e.g. Model 3)? | Testing out Reddit s new poll feature. I ve always wondered if the chrome-delete people were a vocal minority or actually a real majority. Now maybe we can get the real answer. [View Poll](https: www.reddit.com poll fofgtm) | 2020-03-24 23:16:05 | 64 | I always thought I d like chrome delete more but after experiencing both the chrome delete made me feel like I was a high school teenager modding my car. | 2020-03-24 23:43:15 | 65 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 5,282 |
[semi] Tesla RV | stretch the semi chassis and build a RV on it. you ll have a 40 000 pound vehicle(with all the water people etc) that can go over 500 miles per charge. it will also have plenty of battery power to run all the hotel loads so you can camp in places with out hook ups or have to run a generator. you could cover the roof in solar panels for a couple kilowatts of charging. RV camp ground electrical hookups have a 240v 50 amp socket to plug into. The RV campground electrical hookups turn any rv camp site into a place where a tesla semi could park for mandated rest period. | 2017-11-20 00:56:19 | 73 | This is my dream for retirement or thereabouts. If you re gonna invest in an RV it had better be electric | 2017-11-20 01:05:29 | 35 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 25,298 |
Love my P3D+ but need advice on some paint issues. | I picked up my P3D+ and tried getting a clear bra installed the next day. The installer noticed quite a bit of sand in the paint and said I should get that fixed before putting the clear bra on. So I scheduled a Service appointment and they kept it for a couple weeks while I drove a low end chevy cruise they lent me. When I finally got it back I noticed that they d put 107 miles on driving it between body shops. I d been able to see this from the app as well when they were moving it. Today when the sun was up I detailed it and noticed that there were still quite a few sand paint bubbles so I m afraid that the clear bra appointment I have for Monday might not work out again. Not only that but there s a pretty bad scuff on the door and some gravel impact dents on bumper from them driving it without a clear bra. I know I could probably schedule an appointment for a couple weeks to fix the sand bubbles which are obviously not my fault but then I d be without it for a couple weeks with no guarantee it would be better. If I didn t love this car so much I probably wouldn t care about a dozen sand bumps in the paint but after driving it it sucks to drive a low end ICE car while they fix it. What would you guys do? Do you think there s anyway I could get the clear bra installer to buff out the couple sand bubbles on the front? I really want to get it protected. PS: I just got V9.0 and it s great! [https: imgur.com a AKv57el](https: imgur.com a AKv57el) UPDATE: Thanks for the advice. I ended up going ahead with my XPEL appointment. They thought that it would hide most of the paint flaws or at least that they wouldn t be very noticeable. I already have 3 or 4 impact sites on the bumper that are as noticeable as the paint spots so I figured I d just get it covered before I got more of those. | 2018-10-14 00:25:52 | 5 | My X has a lot of paint issues (Mirrors paint was so thin that it s mostly gone from 26k miles). But honestly I don t think about it most of the time. I have no bra or other protector on my car even though I read daily about people stressing over nicks and dents. My advice drive the car enjoy the car forget about the small paint imperfections. Add the bra and other protectants you feel you need and then stop stressing. | 2018-10-14 02:47:33 | 17 | Tesla Service Experience Feedback | 11,152 |
GM recalling 370 000 full-size trucks for fire risks | > General Motors Co. will recall 370 000 full-size pickups for fire risks after eight reported fires. The automaker is urging owners not to leave their trucks unattended while idling. Meanwhile only three Tesla related fires have been reported under completely different circumstances yet people media over react to the Tesla reports. http: www.detroitnews.com article 20140110 AUTO0103 301100108 GM-recalling-370-000-full-size-trucks-fire-risks?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE | 2014-01-11 08:46:56 | 26 | I hate to be that guy but I don t think this belongs here on r teslamotors Believe me I get it. I m as frustrated by the skewed media coverage as anybody. Hell I even posted a similar story here back when fires were a hot topic (NPI). But now this just borders on a circle jerk. We all know the truth and I think we should move on rise above etc. We don t need to point out the endless disadvantages of ICE vehicles to realize that the Model S is fantastic. Tesla stands on its own and we don t need to reduce ourselves to mud slinging and confirming our bias by bashing the competition. | 2014-01-11 14:13:20 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,095 |
Mini-review of Autopilot 2 on v9 (2018.39.6 8377b4d) | It s been four months since I ve done one of these mini reviews. I ve had v9 in my Model S now for almost a week. Here are things I m looking at. **Bolded** items have changed or are of note since the previous version I reviewed (2018.20 ad59ff9). \-------------------------- 2018.39.6 8377b4d (Software v9) * **Lane changes.** Lane changes start much more quickly than before. Previously I d hit the turn signal and often wait unsure if it was going to initiate. So many times I d quickly need to re-engage the turn signal before it would go. Now auto lane changes start much more quickly. Seeing the lane lines go from solid to dashed in the AP display gives me a much greater sense of confidence and immediacy. As we know AP is finally using all of the cameras to provide 360º awareness and blindspot monitoring. It s not perfect but nice to have. *An auditory warning is still needed* for it to be truly useful. Fast moving cars are not caught in time and neither are cars two lanes away as far as I can tell. Even without drive-on-autopilot in this update the car does lane changes into much smaller openings than it previously would making it more useful but also requiring closer supervision in these circumstances. Auto lane changes are also now enabled outside of divided highways (on surface streets) allowing me to use autosteer in more places. * Trying to turn right toward off-ramps. * **Ping ponging left and right within a consistent lane.** Not something I noted in the last review but AP seems really sensitive to really small changes in lane width in places where it ping pongs a bit when it really shouldn t have to move at all. There s a few spots on the highway where I drive where a lane line ends on the right and a new one begins suddenly maybe half-a-foot further into the lane and each time AP darts over a bit to the left of the lane when it really should just continue straight ahead. * Hunting left and right when lanes change width or when lanes merge. * Hunting left and right when lane lines momentarily disappear. * **Hunting left and right when lane lines re-merge.** The car still centers itself in the lane giving the appearance to others like you re trying to block them when passing an on-ramp. This is my biggest annoyance with auto steer for the last few months and I was really hoping it would go away in v9. Any time passing highway on ramps the car moves over momentarily to get in the middle of the merge lane when it really ought to know to just stay to the left for that moment. * Hunting left and right when cresting hills. * Lane line confusion when driving over seams in road or discolorations in road surface. * Tracking car in front when no lane lines are present. * Driving through intersection stability. * **Handling large high speed interchange curves.** Not really a change here but wanted to note my annoyance with how slow the car goes on interchanges. With drive-on-autopilot coming soon this really has me worried. Most of the time I disengage AP on interchanges because the car slows down way too much making other drivers get annoyed and becoming agressive to get around me. This would make drive-on-autopilot rather useless if I m constantly disengaging it on interchanges because it s a little too safe for the Los Angeles drivers around me to be happy. * **Handling tight interchange curves.** There are two really tight interchanges on my test route and AP is still too slow on them but with V9 is now able to handle them a lot better than before. It s still not smooth and confident enough for me to use it even if it were able to maintain a higher speed to blend in with traffic. * Hesitating when changing lanes on a curve towards a vehicle. * **Phantom braking for roadside or overhead signs.** I ve had v9 for almost a week and I haven t had any phantom braking events. They occurred rarely for me one previous software versions but I probably haven t used v9 enough to know if this issue is resolved in this update. * Capable of showing two cars in front of you. * **Capable of showing cars in adjacent lanes.** As I ve said above this is on another level in v9. It doesn t render other vehicles perfectly smoothly moving or in their exact correct position but I know it will likely get better with every update to v9. Car positions will often float and jump around. I ve also noticed for my usage the cars in my blindspots are closer in real life than they appear in the AP display. If I see a car anywhere in my blindspot on the AP display I know it s too close to move over. So the only time I know it s good to move over is if there s *no* car shown in the 180º behind me and in that situation I don t know if it s actually safe to move over or if AP is just *not seeing and registering* cars in the 180º behind me. I d like an offset. I d like to see there s cars behind me on the AP display but see that they re far enough away that I can merge over. Currently if they re shown at all they re too close to merge over. * **Capable of showing different types of cars.** We now have a handful of vehicle types displayed! Sedans vans large SUVs semi trucks motorcycles and pedestrians etc. The vehicle types displayed often change rapidly as the neural net tries to figure out what it s seeing. It also will sometimes classify roadside objects as semi trucks and other vehicles. It s nice to have different vehicles identified in the AP display but I m looking forward to improvement in future updates. * Capable of showing speed limit signs. * **Stopped car detection.** Still not great. AP is still often unsure coming up to stopped vehicles at lights. Sometimes it can t decided if there s something in front of me or not so it s slowing accelerating several times jerking me around as it tries to decide what to do. * Time waiting to accelerate from a stop. * No shuddering “jerky braking” at low speeds. * Handling off ramps. Advanced autopilot capabilities: * Handling freeway interchange decisions most specifically forks in the road. * Handling merges with vehicles along side car (slowing down or speeding up to fit). * Handling last second or close proximity merges. * Detecting and reacting to other vehicle turn signals during merges. * Completely automatic intelligent lane changing outside of interchanges. \-------------------------- **Notes:** I was really hoping with this update that despite drive-on-autopilot being absent that autopilot would have a slightly better intelligence in simple situations and awareness of where I m going on the highway. I drove on my autopilot test route with navigation set and it still acted like it had no idea where I was going. In places where the highway would split in a smooth long V I expected with the nav set that it would know to stay towards the right side of the lane as the lane got wider. It did not. It tried to center itself then once it realized the lane was getting too wide it would dart to one side or the other. In another spot where the carpool lane suddenly turns into two lanes AP still didn t know where I was going and that it should stay to the left most lane. It still just stupidly continues straight ahead until it suddenly realizes the lane split then DARTS over to one side. Autosteer s lane centering still steers me toward the center of every on ramp merge lane making me looking like a butthead of a driver to others like I m trying to block them out. I m not asking for the REALLY intelligent stuff I know we re getting with drive-on-autopilot where it picks your lanes for you and switches to them with or without confirmation. I was hoping we d get really small simple bits of intelligence knowing to stay straight or stay to one side of the lane or the other when a long simple fork comes up. Funny enough I got [this error](https: imgur.com a UglncqD) this morning. I could still use autopilot but not perform and auto lane changes. Rebooting didn t resolve it but walking away from the car for a few hours did. Haven t yet tested auto lane changes below 30mph. & #x200B EDIT on 2018-10-16: Lane changes below 30mph DO work though when it tried it I was driving at about 29mph. & #x200B I also noticed that the car can detect up to 3 cars in front of me if they re staggered in the lane diagonally. The NN seems to be able to distinguish 3 separate edges of vehicles! | 2018-10-12 01:39:50 | 58 | I wonder if when drive on nav is actually active it will do better with lane keeping in those situations. Right now autopilot v9 is (in theory) the exact same as 8.1 except that it has the side cameras active. i wouldn t expect any on nav improvements to be there (like knowing what to be in) until that feature is actually on | 2018-10-12 03:54:06 | 7 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 11,480 |
2013 Tesla Model S are now running as low as 40k? | Hey guys I was just browsing through Craigslist looking at the 2013 Tesla Model S and it appears that some of them are going for as low as 40k with only 40k miles on it. What is the reason for this? Are there any particular faults in the 2013 model that causes it to be so inexpensive? | 2016-08-27 23:20:20 | 27 | A brand new Model S starts at $56K after incentives. A 3-4 year old one with the comprehensive warranty ending being worth $40K is actually really high. Most other cars would ve depreciated more. | 2016-08-28 00:18:17 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 381 |
Opinion: Soon after cars become fully autonomous they will also monitor the driver s vital health signs. | The news about the guy who credits his Tesla with helping him get to the hospital in time got me thinking. First I thought: What would have happened if he had passed out completely. Wouldn t it be cool if a Tesla automatically called a designated emergency contact. That action could be triggered any time a Tesla automatically stops due to an inactive driver and the driver fails to respond to a prompt. But the flaw I saw in that plan is that it is a short sighted goal. The real goal is full autonomy and no need for an active driver. So an inactive (sleeping) driver will usually not be sufficient cause for alarm. I realized then that in a fully autonomous car people could suffer serious health issues and the car would keep driving possible for hours. While that would surely better than our current situation I realized the car can do even better. With a sensor on the drivers wrist and maybe some other sensors built into the car the car could actively monitor the driver s health. If it detects a possible problem and the person does not respond to a prompt the car could take a series of escalating steps to seek a resolution. The ultimate step would be to drive to the nearest hospital or possibly even coordinate a rendezvous with an ambulance. It seems to me that this will be an almost trivial feature to add by the time cars are fully autonomous. This is just one of the ways that autonomous cars can save lives in addition to avoiding a crash. (As a side note there are existing systems like OnStar which will alert authorities in case of a crash.) | 2016-08-07 20:01:21 | 34 | I really liked that touch about a rendezvous with an ambulance. That is an interesting idea. | 2016-08-07 20:12:31 | 10 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 14,432 |
Is it worth attending a Model X Showcase? | I received an email to attend a Model X Showcase in Cleveland and I was just wondering what takes place at the event. Any info would be great! I m also searching google but figured Reddit may have some better information. Thanks in advance! | 2017-06-07 13:31:29 | 15 | You go in they have some drinks and finger food waiting. You awkwardly talk Tesla with employees or other fans there. The store manager does a little speech about new stuff going on and maybe gives some test drives. You go back to drinks finger food and awkward conversations. You leave. The first time is a bit fun but they get boring eventually. I do like going to pick employee s brains about the newest info they have heard that maybe isnt released yet. You also get a chance to meet some higher up management at times. | 2017-06-07 15:45:00 | 9 | Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions | 10,018 |
No more Tesla deliveries just summon it from the factory? | They would just have to mail you the keyfob right? Or am I missing something? | 2016-01-12 20:25:39 | 79 | One problem with this is that people on the east coast would get their new cars with 3 000 miles on the odometer. | 2016-01-12 20:43:47 | 74 | Model 3 phone key issues | 14,084 |
Are all service centers being stocked up with S and X s? | I ve lived just a few minutes away from the Charlotte service center for about a year now and notice that this past month nearly every parking spot is full of brand new cars with the film still on organized by color. I ve never seen so many here before. Is Tesla just stocking up on them before production is focused on the 3? | 2017-07-25 21:09:37 | 17 | My guess is Tesla is stockpiling a bunch of vehicles so the experienced tech s can be shifted over too the mode 3 production line and get it up and running. | 2017-07-25 21:12:10 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,162 |
Any idea how long from in Transit to being ready for pickup in the UK? | Status just changed - any UK owners who can fill me in on their experience? | 2016-08-08 22:52:59 | 9 | My bosses Tesla changed to in transit on Friday last week. He takes delivery September 1st. However he did delay his delivery. So I don t know if they held it at the factory or if it arrives soon in London and they hold it there for a few weeks. So not much use. But no more than a month. | 2016-08-09 05:06:37 | 2 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 1,676 |
3d printed supercharger phone charger. | After making a comment on [this thread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 4dj6wr this_will_have_to_do_for_the_next_2_years ) it sounds like there may be interest if someone could 3d print these. I have a few printers myself and depending on how many are interested access to a few more printers. Based on quickly looking at things. It would take me about 8-10 hours per print per printer. Estimated costs would be about $15. I was thinking $20-25 plus shipping if you supply your own cable. Looking at prices of cables I would estimate an additional $5-10 for a quality cable. I am not looking to make a ton of money. Just looking to break even on my supplies shipping electricity and time. I am in USA and have no problem shipping to other countries we will just need to figure out the best cost to ship. If you are interested in one of these please fill out this [form](http: goo.gl forms yVPvULqeO4) so I can start figuring out how much filament I would need and a plan to print them. *Edit* Got a lot of people interested. Now I know what Elon felt like with the Model 3. Expected like 20-30 of you interested and got about 150. Maybe I should start shipping East coast and go West :p So I started test printing now for timing and filament use. This weekend I should know exactly what the costs will be and will work up the best way for payment and shipment. Will keep you all updated. *Edit 2* I will be sending out emails shortly. To print all these units I got access to some faster better printers. u milanvo has stated that he will help with any non-usa shipments. It will probably be cheaper as shipping from usa could be expensive. The price for the unit will be $28 + $7 USPS Priority Shipping ($7 ships up to 3). I will be ordering braided cables and will link you to the cables I will be using. For those that do not want a cable most if not all cables should fit. However the braided cables that I am ordering will be the only ones that I will test. If want me to include the cable I will fit and install the cable in the unit so it s ready out of the box. The cable prices will run $7-12 depending on Lightning USB-C or Micro USB. *Edit 3* For those still following I am very sorry for the lack of information. I had to find someone to help print and also got sent away on a business trip so was unable to look into things for a bit. I have finalized everything and will be collecting orders starting today. An email will go out to everyone shortly on how to order. | 2016-04-06 16:37:29 | 27 | Tesla could potentially send you a C& D over selling these yes? | 2016-04-06 16:41:37 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 714 |
Barron s used The April fools day joke on the “Cybertruck redesign” from Carbuzz in their latest article | [Tesla Might redesign its Cybertruck. That isn t why the stock is slipping](https: www.google.com amp s www.barrons.com amp articles tesla-stock-redesign-cybertruck-concept-preorders-deliveries-sales-51585843895) I emailed the journalist and asked him to address the fact that the article was a prank from carbuzz Edit: The journalist addressed his mistake and edited the article | 2020-04-02 17:38:32 | 158 | I saw the Barron s article too and wondered where they got their information. Just another example of how incestuous journalism is anymore. | 2020-04-02 17:51:57 | 80 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 2,678 |
Powerwall 2 keeps grid-tie inverter on during grid failure | Not sure if this is old news but according to this document https: www.tesla.com sites default files pdfs powerwall powerwall-welcome-guide.pdf on page 4 it says During a grid outage by combining solar and Powerwall you can extend your hours of backup power. Solar panels when installed by themselves are required to shut down during a power outage for grid safety. However in combination with a Powerwall system solar panels can continue to operate during a grid outage and provide power to your home and also recharge the Powerwall in a longer duration blackout. I feel as though this is huge because I thought the backup function only let you use the stored Powerwall energy if the grid went down didn t realise it kept the solar inverter running. | 2017-06-15 01:16:29 | 53 | Anti-islanding is mandatory. If the grid-tie inverter is actually still functioning during a blackout that s illegal and extremely dangerous. It looks like the magic happens through the extra box called the Backup Gateway which isolates the home from the grid during a blackout so that the PV+battery system can keep the house energised without violating anti-islanding. So it s not a grid-tied inverter it s just an inverter which has outboard circuitry to connect the inverter to the house and or grid as required. Source: diagrams page 6 of that PDF. | 2017-06-15 03:50:32 | 26 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 15,448 |
Tesla wall charger vs Solaredge smart EV charger. | I am about to get a solar system installed in my house and the installer included Solaredge EV charger in with the quote. He said he prefers that over the Tesla brand wall charger because of the more advanced settings you can have (tell your car to only use solar energy to charge etc). It looks to me like I would have to use an adapter to charge a Tesla with it which I would rather not do. Does anybody have experience with the Solaredge smart EV charger or have any opinions on what they would rather have for their garage? | 2020-03-27 22:33:27 | 8 | I have the solar edge ev inverter. The adaptor connector is a non issue as it is included with your car and just plugs into the SolarEdge cable. Overall super happy and I get a solid 35 miles hr charging rate | 2020-03-28 16:35:53 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 20,419 |
Vehicle on Autopilot should slow down prior to a turn with a hard curvature not at the time of the turn. | When your car “knows the path it can t even see” it seems logical that the car should slow down if it knows there s a hard curvature coming up and you re going too quickly. Makes for a more pleasant drive and confident Autopilot. This should be what happens but currently it only does it at the moment of the turn which is too late. Edit: [Video](https: streamable.com m4erha) | 2020-04-26 14:04:00 | 360 | Same is true for speed limits I find it bonkers that when going from a 60 to a 30 it takes autopilot until I m in the 30 to START slowing down. It s probably 5 minutes of napkin math to work out how to have the regen glide you in at an optimal speed for every combination of limits. | 2020-04-26 14:10:56 | 93 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 22,051 |
Super chargers in Gaithersburg MD | https: imgur.com a pjbtJ | 2017-12-27 01:26:18 | 40 | Yup just opened around two weeks ago. Traffic in there is tight and crowded though there isn t much ICEing which is nice. Also has a battery pack which is the first I ve seen. | 2017-12-27 02:46:56 | 8 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,954 |
Tesla didn t remove my free premium connectivity in February so they remotely disabled it 3 weeks ago when they found out & the same day they disabled it my Model 3 s FSD Autopilot Sentry Mode Smart Summon & Cruise Control stopped working. My service appointment wasn t able to fix it either. | *Update at the bottom of what the problem was and how Tesla fixed it* I know I ll be downvoted for this post but this is my last chance to get Tesla s attention so they can fix it. Because my Service location nearby hasn t been able to fix the problem. Think if this was you and your car would you want it to go on ignored and the 7k software you paid for not be working? So here it goes: I m sure many people here remember when their free premium connectivity was removed back in February making everyone have to pay 10$ a month for it. I don t care that they made it a paid feature I was willing to pay for it and am paying for it now. But they for some reason missed shutting it off in my car when they had their mass shutoff of it back in February and I had premium connectivity for free up until 3 weeks go when they realized my car had been missed in their mass shutoff of the program. After I got the notification that they were removing it 3 weeks ago on my phone I subscribed for the 10$ a month subscription but then noticed that same day they turned off the free premium connectivity that my car s FSD Autopilot Sentry Mode Smart Summon and basic Cruise Control had stopped working. It now happens every other drive. For 1 drive the car is completely fine and in the next it enters the glitched basic mode where the car doesn t even recognize street lines stop signs lights or anything. If I try Smart Summon it goes into a forever load screen and doesn t work and if I turn on Sentry mode I get a Sentry mode has turned off due to a system error message 2 minutes later. Because it started happening the day that they turned off my premium connectivity and it was perfectly fine before that I can only assume that that remote removal of my free premium connectivity when they realized they had missed shutting it off in my car back in February is the cause of these issues now. I m no expert or Tesla dev so don t quote me on that. That is just my observation from the timing of this bug starting. I m a 2 year Tesla owner too who is also an IT worker IRL so I know how to work the car. I ve tried multiple soft reboots and hard reboots and gone into the settings to turn the autopilot settings FSD settings FSD visualization preview settings and smart summon settings on and off again to try to get it fixed. But when it enters the glitched basic mode where none of the advanced features work every other drive nothing fixes it. I ve called Tesla to have them look at it remotely and they said they found nothing in the error message log and when I drove it in for service it happened to be one of the times everything was working so they said they saw nothing wrong with it and sent it home. Even after showing them a video of the basic mode the car enters. Now fearing they won t be able to fix my car if I take it into another service appointment as they couldn t fix it last week when I took it in. Regardless I have a mobile service appointment scheduled this week and am filming a more thorough video showing me hard rebooting the car turning the AutoPilo FSD FSD Preview Visualizations and Smart Summon settings on and off to show them nothing fixes the bug when the car goes into it s Basic mode glitch. [Here s a video of the basic mode it enters every other drive where all advanced features are turned off.](https: np.reddit.com r TeslaModel3 comments h9eiwf 1_month_and_tesla_still_hasnt_fixed_my_fsd_it ) **UPDATE: THEY FIXED IT! Turns out when they installed my HW3 computer they didn t fully secure the mounting of the front seeing Camera unit. So with the driving of the road it lead to the camera s connection to the computer becoming disconnected hence why it would work for one drive and not the next drive. The drives would jiggle the connection back in place and back out of place each time so the car was blind essentially when the front camera would disconnect. They replaced the front camera unit and secured the new cameras mount and connection which has sense fixed the car. Hope this helps anyone who has the same problem in the future!** | 2020-06-15 21:30:32 | 112 | Document every time you bring it in and every time you lose the functionality. Keep bringing it in then follow your state s lemon law guidelines and get that process started. Should get their attention. | 2020-06-15 21:36:07 | 70 | Car Software Update Connectivity | 19,774 |
What do I need to know before buying a Tesla? | Hello I am looking to buy my first car soon and I think I want it to be an S. Initially I was trying to hold off until at least the Model 3 was announced to have decide which one I wanted and be able to pay for almost all of it at once but it seems that not having a car can be a burden for some activities and I d like to be able to say I never owned a gas car so I think I d like to take the plunge now. I am looking to get some more concrete information from experienced Tesla owners. Some questions I have are: Are you ever concerned leaving it places? I live in an apartment complex right now that has a carport but no garage (Although it should be a safe neighborhood). Also I would plan to leave the car at hiking trailheads in the Northwest. How long is the waiting list now? I thought I saw a thread 4 months ago saying 1.5-3 months has it changed? Tesla says the supercharges take 40 minutes to 80%. How does that vary if you start from not empty. Say you start at 50% how long would it take to get to 80% and to 100%? Have you ever had to extend trips go out of your way because your car needed charging and how hard was it to find somewhere to charge? It you do run out of charge who can tow you and how much would that cost? Do ski s fit in it or on top of it? Do you have a recommended insurance to get? I thought I heard Geico was reasonable for Teslas and I got quoted somewhere between 300-350 per month. Which autopilot features have been implemented so far? Does it automatically stop to avoid crashes now? Is the only difference between the 85 and P85 that you can go 0-60 faster? I thought there was some debate over whether 19 or 21 tires were better in terms of performance and range. Is there any conclusion on this? Should I consider leasing the car? How much would it cost after I lease and when would the $7500 credit still apply? Are there any hidden recurring expenses? At the moment I can think of the following yearly expenses: $600 Service $4000 Car insurance $100 WA gas tax $150 Electricity License plate recommendations? Anything else I should know before I buy? Thanks. | 2015-03-15 23:02:24 | 10 | Get your order in soon. Washington state does not charge sales tax for EVs. That expires on July 1st. This applies to *taking delivery* of the car. Any car that is not a P85D is up to a four month build time. I d guess you have maybe a month to get your order in before you risk having to pay the 9.5% sales tax. http: apps.leg.wa.gov WAC default.aspx?cite=458-20-279 | 2015-03-16 00:55:28 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 22,590 |
Looking for info on career advancement within Tesla starting from entry level position | I just received an initial offer for a position as a production associate or material handler (will let me know which one with official offer) and I am wondering if anyone has been in one of these roles and been able to advance their career within the company. This seems to be a mass hire for entry level low pay positions and that makes me suspicious that these positions may not be the in that I am looking for at Tesla. I have a MS in chemistry 3ish years including supervisory role in QC (manufacturing of scientific instrumentation). I would be quitting a very new job that does have long term potential and relocating from Seattle to Reno. I am passionate about the mission actually enjoy hard work and am able to find a work life balance where it often seems there is none. I ve applied to other positions about a year ago mostly in QA and never heard back. I also saw something in the welcome package that mentioned student loan refinancing. Anyone utilize that perk? Taking the paycut for this position will impact my payments greatly and so this peaked my interest a bit. Does anyone think turning this down will screw me out of a future position? | 2018-05-09 05:02:26 | 7 | I m not going to sugar coat this. It s a flat out dead end. These are landlocked positions not stepping stones. Aimed at kids fast food workers walmart employees. It would be crazy to drop that far down with what we know of your background. If a QA supervisor position was on the plate. You would have a better chance at going A.M or networking into something. | 2018-05-09 06:40:01 | 38 | Career Decision - Tesla vs. Ford | 11,048 |
Model 3 news has been slow lately in the mean time what will your model 3 configuration be? Including options we know and options you expect to be included. | I m going with red. Glass roof. Larger battery. And full self driving. Base everything else. | 2017-06-06 12:49:53 | 29 | Whatever gets me the Model 3 the fastest takes priority as I want the tax credit. My state (MD) also has a first-come first serve $3k credit so we re talking a $10 500 discount vs a $3 750 one. Assuming these don t affect timing too much: - Sig red (or normal red... or white w white interior) - Glass roof - EAP - Maybe battery upgrade (every owner here says it s worth it) | 2017-06-06 13:07:14 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,268 |
Can anyone recommend a dryer outlet compatible extension cord for a Model X? | I ll be receiving my Model X in a couple of weeks and I may travel to my friend s home which is in a city that doesn t have any superchargers. I was thinking of getting a dryer outlet extension cord that can charge the Model X faster than a regular extension cord. Is there a dryer outlet compatible extension cord that I could use to charge my vehicle? If so any good ones? | 2016-12-10 03:09:43 | 15 | I used one for my S for almost a year from this website. Make sure you manually set the amperage max to 24 in the car before you attempt to charge at the location where you re using this adapter. This is the one that i got for my dryer outlet at my old home. https: www.evseadapters.com collections adapters-for-tesla products nema-14-50r-to-10-30p-adapter | 2016-12-10 04:05:20 | 3 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 3,438 |
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Has anyone received their 1k refund for FSD? | Elon tweeted around March 1st I believe that the price of FSD would be reduced to 2k for those that purchased EAP in 2018. If you had already purchased that day for 3k he stated you would receive a 1k refund. Has anyone received this yet? I keep being told that it is coming but here we are in mid May. | 2019-05-15 02:01:39 | 13 | I received just recently. Took a while but it came by itself. | 2019-05-15 02:16:49 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 7,615 |
Tesla s Warranty now covers *fire* even if you wreck your car. | People have buried the lead in Elon s blog post. Tesla will now warranty your car against fire damage no matter what you do to it unless you intentionally try to cause a fire. Let s see another car company put its money where its mouth is like that. http: www.teslamotors.com blog mission-tesla | 2013-11-19 14:17:46 | 165 | tesla is doing everything it needs to do to put itself in a position to be the number one manufacture of automobiles in the world. I m telling you if you can get in at $120 share do it. personally I m hoping it dips under a 100 but thats wishful thinking. | 2013-11-19 20:35:12 | 13 | Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights | 20,214 |
Charging courtesy expected. | So today I was down town Nathen Philips Square in Toronto. The parking lot has 3 EV spots but only 2 chargers. When I arrived both plugs were in use by MS . Technically 1 since the other charger was off so probably completed. I thought cool I won t disconnect the completed charger. I ll just leave my charge door open as signal. 4 hours later I return to find the first MS that finished left and a other parked in its spot and was using the charger. I mean come ON. The first guy had to walk back to the charger to hang up the cable and he would ve seen my charge door open. Anyway I m just saying isn t that the courtesy when using shared spots? Short of writing friendly note I though that was sufficient. Maybe that s what I would do. Would anybody s else require a note if they saw an open charge door of a parked EV? My car was a Kia Soul EV with a pretty big and obvious charging door on the front which was facing the charger. | 2016-11-28 01:13:52 | 7 | I wouldnt have done it either. Honestly wouldnt have occurred to me. A noteo n windshield maybe? | 2016-11-28 01:31:29 | 23 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,824 |
Model 3 screen—quiet mode | Really hope the Model 3 screen has a quiet mode where all you see is speed and autopilot until you tap. Hate having things animating in my line of sight. | 2017-08-03 00:56:03 | 24 | I agree completely. In my Volt I have it set to be as dark as possible for the dash and screen. I need mph charge info. The end. It s definitely one of the turnoffs for me about the Model S. That s a whole lot of screen. My buddy drives his Model S with a black background set in the browser to reduce the brightness motion. | 2017-08-03 01:34:49 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 12,361 |
Any Customer Experience Specialist on this sub ? | I recently moved to Toronto from East coast got laid off in an IT company. While I was researching my opportunities I had to take a pause to think about the job I like to do & a job which I want to do cuz of peer pressure. I am a HUGE fan of Tesla & Elon Musk I keep talking about that to my friends and family & have arguments about EV & ICE cars as well. Also I can literally talk hours on those topics. As always when we decide to switch careers there will a big confusion where to go forward or not. So based on your experience what do you suggest me? I am looking at Customer Experience Specialists role. As the EV market is raising and model 3 is just around the corner I think it s the right time to switch job. The questions running in my mind are Will this be a right fit? What are the pros and cons? How would I grow my career from this job? How is the pay? Is there any commissions ? Work life balance? Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance. | 2017-09-12 05:32:15 | 13 | Growth opportunities into sales retail management low pay no commission until higher roles CES as many hours as you want w overtime usually available tedious repetitive work amazing company you get to drive and talk about teslas all day | 2017-09-12 13:23:56 | 6 | Career Decision - Tesla vs. Ford | 1,586 |
15 S vs 17 S Significant Deltas? | I am looking at 2 options: Brand New Model S 75D or a CPO 2015 Model S 85D 90D. What are the significant changes outside of Autopilot 2? What exactly are the NextGen seats? Also I understand the new Model S will be significantly faster than a 85D however the 90D will be similar in speed. Will the 15S still have summon? | 2017-07-04 23:19:57 | 14 | Please stop abusing the word delta. | 2017-07-04 23:56:26 | 38 | Tesla Model Comparison | 6 |
How To Tell If Your Model 3 Has HW3 And Is FSD Ready (step by step to locating physical proof) | So its been bothering me for a few weeks since the winter sneak peak of FSD. Do I have a HW3 FSD ready PC in my model 3? Well some said if I can see cones I do Some said 2.5 has cones as well. I decided to check my actual computer in the car to see the serial number and match it to the HW3 serial on the tesla parts website. & #x200B To do this you 1.remove four plugs under the glovebox 2.pull out the panel 3. stick a camera up into the space facing the front of the car 4. review the footage to see what the serial number is. & #x200B Video Version : [https: youtu.be sDTAxRVHLa4](https: youtu.be sDTAxRVHLa4) HW2.5 SERIAL: CAR COMPUTER MCU ADAS ASSY HW2.5-PROVISIONED 1098058-S0-M HW3 SERIAL: TLA CAR.COMP NA HW3.0 M3 - PROVISIONED 1462554-S0-I & #x200B Tesla Parts Online: [https: epc.tesla.com # systemGroups 47362](https: epc.tesla.com # systemGroups 47362) & #x200B & #x200B Hope this helps! | 2020-01-08 07:20:24 | 14 | If you have FSD Visualization Preview you have HW3. Simple as that. | 2020-01-08 07:55:07 | 40 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 8,039 |
Battery replacement costs? | I took my dad to a Tesla showroom yesterday and he told me the rep said a battery replacement would have to occur every 100 000~ and would cost him $25k? I m pretty sure she has to be wrong or he didn t hear correctly but can someone verify for me? That alone would change everything and would make me reconsider getting a Tesla myself. Edit: I m not reporting anyone nor is this a trolling post. I think at worst she must ve miscommunicated or my dad misheard. I only shared this because it was pretty crazy to hear. | 2021-01-23 17:01:58 | 35 | Pretty wrong. The batteries in the Model 3 Y are warrantied for 8 years or 120 000 miles. A few have put over 100 000 miles on their batteries and they seem to be holding up well. | 2021-01-23 17:03:35 | 110 | Tesla Battery Production Optimization | 2,743 |
White Leather Seats | Hi all so I went with the ultra white premium white seats on my 3 and I know they are supposed to be easy to clean but just wanted to see what products owners are using. I will definitely keep white wipes with me in the glove compartment but not sure if there any sprays or detailers that would work better when I clean the car? On a side note does anyone know how to preserve recreate the new car smell - I forgot how much I love it! | 2019-01-01 19:52:52 | 8 | Just so you know it s not leather but a synthetic material. Here s the cleaner list directly from the manufacturer. Personally I use Clorox wipes. https: www.ultrafabricsinc.com sites default files environment Disinfectants_3-2018.pdf | 2019-01-01 20:00:52 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,299 |
My 10 000 mile (long) review of a facelift 2016 Tesla Model S 75D | Greetings and salutations! After 10 000 miles behind the wheel of a Model S I feel that I m finally in a good position to do an in-depth review of the car. Before we dive in here are the specs of Bernard: * [2016 Facelift Model S 75D](http: imgur.com a l2VKi) * Regular black paint * AP1 * Next Gen seats (black) * Sunroof * Standard wheels * Charging: NEMA 14-50 plug in garage (~30 miles hr charge rate) * Located in eastern Pennsylvania USA. **Exterior** Looks are always subjective but I really like the exterior look of the car. I may be biased but I would say the Model S is amongst one of the best looking cars that are driving the roads today (across all classes and segments). The car very often receives comments and stares at stop lights or in parking lots. I ve had quite a few people approach me and ask me what kind of car I m driving and how beautiful it is. And yes - a ton of people get it confused with a Maserati. What I love to this day is people s reaction to the door handles popping out. This is such a great first impression of the car to everyone that it quickly goes from “wow what a beautiful car” to “OMG WTF?!?!?” Amongst my favorite exterior features are the facelift headlights (honestly my favorite part of the exterior) and the ass of the car when viewed head on from another car. Things I m not huge fans of is the seeming inconsistent brightness of the center high brake light LEDs (the one above the rear window) and the second half of the car when looking at it from the side (i.e. from the back door to the back of the car). However if I move 45 degrees to the right (or moving around the back of the car) the hunch above the rear wheels becomes super predominant and it becomes downright sexy. One of my biggest worries from an exterior aspect was the standard wheels not looking all that great but in person they look just fine and honestly are actually pretty good. I think Tesla s upgrade to 21” is just so damn sexy that the beauty of the standard wheels get somewhat lost. If you re thinking that you ll regret not getting the 21s due to the look of the standard wheels - don t. They look just fine. Finally - there are still definitely some minor gap and alignment issues with the car that are easy to spot if you know what you re looking for but 99.9% of the public will never in a million years realize the flaws. Some of these include the alignment of the chrome trim on the side of the car - i.e. the gap between the front and back doors a slight misalignment of the rear brake lights and some gap inconsistencies with the hatchback and the body of the car. In all honesty - these don t bother me at all. I know a lot of people have super high standards for a car this price (as they rightfully should) but for me it doesn t reduce my love of the car s look. **Interior** This one is a little more divisive since Tesla chose to go with such a spartan look but I m a big fan of it. I find many cars to have twirls and swirls and whatever else going inside just for the sake of trying to look cool or pretty. The Model S clearly has one objective - to make you pay attention to the center screen. I m 100% fine with this since most of a driver s time is spent looking at the instrument cluster and the center dash for anything they may need to adjust. The rest of the car is just there for looks and Tesla doesn t spend too much time here. This doesn t mean that it s an ugly interior - far from it. If you like understated and spartan interiors the Model S is a fantastic example of it. As far as quality of materials it s pretty decent. I would definitely put the likes of Mercedes Audi Volvo and BMW a notch above the Model S for similarly priced products but again most of the time in the car is spent holding the steering wheel (or not if you are driving in AP) and touching any dials to adjust settings and what not. It s still a luxurious experience but not as luxurious as its competition. You will still have soft-touch materials wherever your arms hands are likely to rest but some places like the center cupholder section use some hard plastics as well as some other parts of the car that are not readily viewable from a person s line of sight. If you like plush materials everywhere in your car the Model S will disappoint you. One downside that I ve encountered is the emergence of squeaks rattles and misalignments in certain parts of the car that range from not even noticeable to annoying. These include a creaking driver s seat a slight rocking motion of the driver seat under certain throttle brake situations a creaking from the sunroof (which seems to go away when it s warmer out which tells me it s a seal issue) the steering wheel not being dead centered (it s like 1 degree off to the left - don t notice it anymore) the trim on the front passenger side dash seeming to be not fully adhered to the dash (doesn t make a sound but if you tap the trim you can tell) a rattle coming from inside the dash under certain situations and the front passenger speaker rattling with bass heavy music. Again not a deal breaker for me. The one disadvantage to the Model S being so quiet is that the lack of engine noise can t mask some of these squeaks that could be present in an ICE car but they are definitely there and there s absolute room for improvement for Tesla in this regard. Luckily due to Tesla s awesome service all of these issues will be taken care of when I drive my car in for its 13k mile maintenance so outside of some first world problem annoyances this is a non issue for me. Cabin noise is very low especially at low speeds. It s virtually silent between 0 and about 10 mph at which point wind and tire noise start taking hold. In well paved roads the Model S is a very nice and quiet ride. The car is very aerodynamic in shape so even windy noise isn t that prevalent. However - on a windy day wind noise does become a bit more prevalent but nothing extreme at all. I feel that the Model S is probably one of the quietest cars that have ever been made but because there s no engine noise your focus switches to wind and road noise which may seem like it s louder than other cars but once you start having a conversation you realize that it s your mind playing tricks on you. This is actually an effect that had me a little bit concerned at first because I thought the car s road noise was louder relative to other cars but it turns out there s no other noise that filters out the road noise. Good learning experience! Last item to cover will be the standard audio system which to my ears is somewhere between Meh and Good. My wife and I are both audiophiles and the standard system is no crime against humanity but prepared to not be blown away by anything. The recent addition of a 5 band equalizer definitely helps getting some more clarity to come thru the speakers and more bottom but the lack of a subwoofer means that your bass and low-end is limited. Again - for a standard speaker system it s not the worst thing in the world but if you re an audiophile I d recommend at the very least checking out the upgraded sound system. We tested the one in the Model X and it was a pretty significant upgrade. Not sure if this carries thru in the Model S. PROTIP: Since the standard media player in the Model S streams at a certain bitrate thru the internet you will have less-than-perfect sound quality on any music that you play. If you have access to FLAC formats of the music you listen to I highly recommend getting those loaded up on a USB driver and playing it directly from there thru the car. It makes a noticeable difference in sound quality. **The screen(s)** Tied with the door handles the center screen (and dash!) are both awesome in their wow factor and super usable. I will admit - I was definitely distracted by the screen for the first couple of days of having the car and not due to any worries of glare or reflections. It was such a huge change to have a massive screen right below your field of vision that it took a while to get used to knowing there was this thing readily available for me to play with. However this quickly turned into a very usable and powerful tool in the car. No other car comes close - even 5 years later. This should tell you have fast other automakers are at making fundamental changes to their vehicles (read: incredibly slow). As far as the dash goes (the screen behind the steering wheel) it s both intuitive and very usable. The screen is nice and bright and super easy to read. I set my car to have trip readouts on the left and my acceleration deceleration rates on the right. I use these to track my overall energy usage and see if I m being a little too heavy footed or if I have room to play with. I average about 350 wh mi which is good for a little over 200 miles per charge. Having a graphic of the car displaying AP functionality and the blindspots of the car is also very intuitive and usable. One of my favorite things is the car automatically switching to a near-field view of the sensors when getting relatively close to an object on its front. This is something that I never had in any car ever - I no longer have to peek over the hood and check to make sure I don t destroy the undercarriage of the car. I also really like how the back up camera automatically comes up when putting the car in reserve. Another feature I never had that is very useful. The center screen shines for navigation purposes. I drive quite a bit and having a huge USABLE map like that at my disposal is an awesome incentive for me to go out and explore. The response time on the maps themselves is not the fastest but is definitely usable. You do encounter lag when zooming out too far are moving to a completely different area than the one you are currently on but unless you are doing some relatively drastic movement it s truly a great thing to have in the car. Also - the maps display live traffic on all routes and roads so I can immediately glance at the map and know exactly where there are congestion spots around my city and if my usual drive home is going to suck. By far one of my favorite things about having a screen that big is being able to see enough of the city traffic when driving around. I don t see very many people bringing this up as a huge win but for me it s awesome! The one downside on the maps is the navigation software. Although not terrible it s always optimized to take you the most efficient route first which doesn t necessarily mean shortest or fastest. This means that for trips are are over an hour long you run the risk of giving up anywhere between 10 to 20 minutes of extra driving time because the car wants you to conserve as much energy as possible. I wish there was a feature to turn this off. We usually pull up Google maps and do a side-by-side navigation to make sure we re not going way out of our way and in more than one occasion we were able to save upwards of 30 minutes by taking a more direct route. This is especially true when going on trips of 100 miles or more we ve noticed. However - having direct access to all superchargers and destination chargers right on the map is super convenient and very usable As far as all other features - they ve been rehashed a million times so I won t say too much. Settings are very accessible and very responsive. If there is one thing I would mention is the built in streaming music app is actually pretty damn good. It uses an existing music service (Slacker) to drive the library and it does a really good job at picking and recommending similar songs and genres. Think of it as a Pandora without ads where it plays the song that you actually want to listen to first instead of music that s similar to the type of song you want to listen to. My wife and I are both big time EDM Metal and Hip Hop fans and we ve found some awesome new artists thru the streaming app. The addition of building playlists based on Favorites is an awesome new feature that I m super enjoying. **Drive performance** Killer. So good. Mind you - I come from previously owning a 2007 Mazda 6 so this type of car is about 17 notches above it. The 6 was no slouch around corners though. It handled very well for the type of car it was and there was a sporty spirit about it. However - the Model S is a beast especially in daily driving. I would argue that there s no better car in the world that is better than the Model S for drivers that want to go about their day and have a little fun once in awhile. It will not floor you with its cornering but it will give you a ton of confidence. The acceleration - even in the 75D - is still stupid quick. I ve lined up with many cars at stoplights and left them in the dust when the lights turn green. Every time. Literally. You definitely lose quite a bit of the torque punch at higher speeds - say anything above 65 mph. It will still get you from 65 to 80 in no time but not nearly as quick as it takes you from 30 to 50 or 40 to 60. This makes merging traffic one of the easiest things in the world but don t try to race anyone down a major highway going 100 mph. You ll get whooped on pretty nicely by BMW M5s and cars of that nature that are designed for the autobahn. We have the standard suspension and it does a very good job. It has a comfortable ride that is definitely on the European side (firm) but it absorbs shocks pretty well. The only other car I ve driven in with an air suspension is a Model X and I could notice a slightly more comfortable ride. However this could also be due to a higher ride-height on the Model X and other potential factors (i.e. not riding on the roads I m used to). It s tough for me to compare this suspension to the air suspension in the Model S but on its own it stands up really nice. Having the center of weight so low to the floor of the car due to the batteries being so down low also helps with cornering situations and is very complementary to the suspension set up. It s by no means a sports car but it will give you a good time in winding roads. This car doesn t feel like a 5 000 lbs car in any situation unless you are under heavy braking coming into a sharp corner. Even then the car will hug a turn very nicely due to the wide tires (even the 19s are pretty wide) and exit out without drama even under flat-out acceleration. There are sites that do a much better job than I can communication performance of this car but from my perspective the Model S 75D is a fantastic driver s car especially for those looking for an all-purpose daily driver. **Charging** Honestly - I initially thought that this section would be a lot larger than it s about to be but I think that s a reflection of how far Tesla s supercharging network has come and how game changing it is. This is mainly due to the fact that I ve only had range anxiety a total of two times - about an hour after I went on my first road trip and having to drive back in blizzard conditions with an absolutely packed car with a headwind. Both times I made it home with room to spare. If you have the capability to charge while at home - either be it in your garage or any other solution - then I would argue the Model S is more convenient than an ICE. This is purely due to the fact that I no longer have to plan to go to a gas station every 3-5 days. This is a huge revelation that most people do not understand (and probably won t notice) until they own the car. You no longer have to go out of your way to hit up a gas station to refuel your car when doing any driving that doesn t involve a distance longer than the range of your car allows. With an ICE car you have to hit up a gas station even if you don t drive more than your gas tank can hold. With the Model S I have to budget 0 time for this. I would argue that in a 12 month period the time a person spends at a gas station filling up their car is significantly higher than the extra time spent on an extended road trip using a Model S. Not to mention that the time that you need to use to fill up by most people is during a non-trivial span of time - i.e. you are on the way to work come home from work in the middle of a long trip etc. With the Model S you charge while you sleep. It s such an efficient usage of time that filling up at a gas station now feels like the dumbest thing ever. Clearly my perception comes from the fact that I have a plug at home to charge and your experience will be significantly different if you don t have a method of refueling when you re at home. However if you do charging is literally a non-issue. **Autopilot** From my standpoint this is the most impressive and game-changing feature of the Model S. It s amazing to think about the Model S gobbling up awards like there s no tomorrow when it first launched yet it missed its “killer app” feature. With AP the Model S becomes a true next-generation vehicle that puts it above the rest mainly because of living up to a word that gets thrown around in the high-end car world - luxury. Autopilot redefines the definition of luxury. It s no longer about soft-touch materials smooth ride power and prestige. It s about taking the stress of driving completely away. This is where the Model S blows away all expectations especially when compared to other automakers. And the fact that the car gets better over time with software updates (of which I ve noticed more than once) makes Autopilot incredibly valuable. As far as its performance it s 99.9% magical and 0.1% terrifying. By and large AP navigates highway traffic without much of a problem. The beauty behind the tool is that it s constantly inviting you to use it - it truly makes highway driving (or lack thereof) better. My standard behavior before AP was to finish my drive as quickly as possible. Now with AP I set my desired speed limit and allow the car to get me where I need to go. This is a fundamental change to my approach when traveling and it reduces stress SIGNIFICANTLY It truly makes long-distance driving a significantly more tolerable experience. It is also extremely useful in traffic and stop-and-go situations. AP is a truly life-changing feature that reduces stress and increases safety. I m no longer getting agitated by people driving 1 below the speed limit on the passing lane (as much). On local roads its use (at least in my area) is not as useful. It is more of a fun thing to do while driving than an actual useful feature if there s a relatively long stretch of road without too many changes in lane markings. It requires a much higher level of attention to the behavior of the car vs. highway driving. In highway driving I can pretty much trust the car to make the correct decision when faced with the limited number of situations that you could encounter (car in front slows down speed ups lines on road curve people try to run me off the road and the car reacts). This is completely different when you have to navigate thru intersections traffic lights and not as well-market road surfaces. Instead of it being a relaxing low stress time it becomes a game of managing the tool which is fundamentally different from the intention of AP. On the other spectrum AP seems to have a love with tractor trailers for some reason. There is definitely a “truck bias” in certain situations where the car likes to get a little bit closer to the side of the truck it s passing on (i.e. if I m passing a truck using the passing lane the car veers slightly towards the right of the lane). It still keeps within the lane but instead of the typical behavior of nearing the car towards the left-end of the lane it for some reason likes to do the opposite. What s funny is that in a lot of cases it will correct itself a couple seconds into passing the truck and eventually it ll position itself on the left end of the lane but the first couple seconds of the interaction can be a little nerve-wracking. Overtime you get used to this behavior and it doesn t really present a danger but it s definitely a quirk of the system. In addition - salted or treated roads can pose a serious problem to AP. Right now the cameras do not seem to have a super accurate way of distinguishing lines on the road from the salt treatment truck and can absolutely decide that it s in the wrong “lane” and shift itself drastically. This has led to one occasion where if I wasn t alert enough to take over the car was on its way to ramp itself against an 18-wheeler. My gut tells me that the car would ve noticed its mistake quick enough using the radar system and corrected itself but I wasn t about to take the chance. Quick movements like this traveling anywhere between 65 to 75 mph are at the very least dangerous and at the very worst fatal. There s a reason why they tell you to put your hands on the wheel at all times and that s because the system isn t 100% ready to differentiate the situations that a human could. However with that said AP is absolutely and without a shadow of a doubt the best feature of the Model S. I would be willing to give up everything about the car - the acceleration dual drive the screens prestige looks hill hold (which is a killer feature BTW) and anything else that sets the Model S apart from ANY car - in order to keep AP. **Final Thoughts** If you want a daily driver have the ability to charge at home and are willing to spend ~$70-$75k for a car buy a Model S. Don t even look at the competition. A 60D with AP will be better than any other car in the market at basically everything. You ll get a beautiful looking car that will destroy anything off the line and drive itself plus all the other things any other car can do. That s it! | 2017-05-18 21:36:30 | 146 | > The one downside on the maps is the navigation software. Although not terrible it s always optimized to take you the most efficient route first which doesn t necessarily mean shortest or fastest. I totally agree. This is my last remaining gripe with the nav software. I want fastest route every time. | 2017-05-18 21:54:22 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,222 |
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Tesla poses a huge threat to Uber | Elon Musk recently stated in an interview that they have 47 million miles of data for Tesla Autopilot. Do you guys realize how much of an advantage that is? Google has been testing autonomous vehicles for 10 years - they have 1.5 million miles. And Tesla s data is growing exponentially. They will likely be the first company to develop fully-autonomous vehicles. Once that s done Uber is toast. One of the most difficult and costly aspects of Uber s business is dealing with drivers. Uber is worth $50 billion. This is going to be extremely interesting to watch unfold over the next 2-3 years. | 2016-04-25 05:31:03 | 7 | i still think google s autopilot is much more advanced than tesla s but i agree uber wont survive if they dont develop an autonomous car of their own | 2016-04-25 05:34:26 | 14 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 20,123 |
FM Radio doesn t work on model 3 | I let the $10 mo the thing expire Now the FM radio doesn t work I just get spinning icons. Is that supposed to happen!? | 2020-03-11 23:17:55 | 17 | No that is definitely not notmal. FM radio is not part of the premium connectivity package. Have you tried to reboot the center display? Press and hold the two scroll wheels on the steering wheel until the screen turns off. | 2020-03-11 23:21:31 | 28 | Spotify Integration Analysis | 6,195 |
To Raven or Not to Raven? | Alright I m trusting you Redditors with this one! As you may or may not know I became a first time Tesla owner in 2016 almost exactly 3 years ago today. The test drive instantly hooked me. [Apollo](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=-ICgMYIzhxg) was a 3 year lease. Before I took the dive I d been waiting patiently. With any piece of tech there are good and bad times to buy. So when Tesla unveiled the P100D update and new front fascia I knew it was perfect. A brand new car with the latest and greatest of what Tesla had to offer. Perfect time to buy. Or at least I thought. 2 weeks later Tesla pulled ANOTHER major update to autopilot 2.0 hardware with extra cameras etc. Older cars could not be retrofitted. So instantly Apollo feels slightly outdated. I still love her but I felt slightly jipped. And I definitely want to avoid that feeling again. So here we are in 2019 at the end of the line with Apollo. She s aging and doesn t get all the V10 features. I actually have a 6 month bonus month-to-month lease extension until March 2020 to make my choice and give Apollo back. I know I want to keep driving Model S... Do I just upgrade to the Raven Model S now and assume Plaid Model S is the next refresh? Or are the chances high of a refresh coming in the next few months that will make new Raven owners feel ripped off again? Interior refresh? Battery update? Any other thoughts I m missing? I ve been pondering this for months. & #x200B EDIT: Lots of great advice ya ll. Thank you. Ordered Raven Performance now. Will trade in if by some miracle there s a refresh between now and Plaid. [https: twitter.com MKBHD status 1181773183311056896](https: twitter.com MKBHD status 1181773183311056896) | 2019-10-08 14:57:23 | 2,988 | Marques u Marques-Brownlee if you are still listening I think updating would be a personal decision especially depending on finances as well as general desire to have the latest and greatest. I don t think the raven powertrain is in itself a huge upgrade but the fact that you just missed all the AP2 improvements cameras and MCU means you are missing out on many of the new tech and entertainment upgrades...(and my guess is those are important to you). It s true that plaid (3-motor) powertrains are in development but I think it will be at least a year or two before those ship on Model S and let s not forget that you already have a roadster reserved with that powertrain. While I watch all your videos your occasional Tesla ones are my favorite and at this point you can t video or experience the latest updates because the tech in your car is far enough behind. Another reality is that Model S is actually somewhat behind Model 3 in some ways and very soon Model Y will be making everything also look old. I do think for the sake of your channel and your desire to always have (and test) the latest you should have upgraded to raven or even a Model 3 Performance but only you know if that is worth it to you. | 2019-10-08 15:24:17 | 502 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,255 |
V2020.16 OTA You can format TeslaCam USB on the Tesla | Someone just get 2020.16 OTA in China From the update note we know that: 1、Redesign the UI of Tesla toy-box 2、Filter the charging station by Power 3、Small improvement of map ； 4、You can Format the TeslaCam usb on the car and it will create the TeslaCam folder； 5、Improve the BackgammonBlitz Game The hardest mode is trained by Tesla AI 20 million times. | 2020-05-06 05:40:56 | 145 | > Improve the BackgammonBlitz Game The hardest mode is trained by Tesla AI 20 million times. : | 2020-05-06 06:00:46 | 34 | Issues with Sentry Mode | 21,994 |
Theory: FSD is going to be rebranded until it s fully functional. | Was having a discussion with some people about this - it s difficult for Tesla to get away with implementing individual features under the FSD package because the name is literally Full Self Driving. If they want to roll out features one by one like stop light sign detection a different name is probably needed. So what if they change the name to Advanced Autopilot? That way they can still offer a higher tier package and charge for it and continue beta testing those features as they become available. THEN when the entire EAP+AAP suite is ready to come out of beta we can say FSD was achieved. This type of progression will reduce confusion with consumers. | 2018-10-20 19:09:16 | 29 | Enhanced Autopilot and Advanced Autopilot. Seems crystal clear to me. :) | 2018-10-20 19:17:27 | 38 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 20,918 |
Need your input on my experience taking delivery on a new model 3 | Hi Tesla people. So we got our Model 3 today. Yay! We went with the Long Range Dual-Motor AWD version and added the 19 wheels autopilot and full self-driving capability. When it arrived the guy drove it up. Ok. I was kind of expecting a flatbed truck but ok. He then had us sign a document identifying the car as an executive or showroom model? He explained that it was not according to the DMV a brand new car but don t worry he assured us it only has 26 miles and really is brand new. Then he told us the car was a 2018. This was surprising to me as we ordered a new 2019 direct from the Tesla web site. He again told us to not worry that this car was manufactured in 12 18 and it was the same car as any other Tesla out there. When I asked about trade-in value down the road he informed me it was a non-issue. I am just feeling a little weird about this. Buying this car was a big decision and I want to be sure I got the very best product at the very best price. It feels a little like we got two unexpecting curveballs a 2018 model and a not new car. So here is my question. Does all this sound normal? Am I making a big deal out of nothing or does something seem rotten to you all as well? Thank you for anyone taking the time to share your opinions and thoughts. . . **UPDATE: So I called the 800 number and spoke with a nice person who instructed me to call the delivery center. He informed me that in matters like these the delivery center handles all issues. So I called at 9:00am. It just kept ringing. Again at 9:05 9:10 etc... continued ringing. Checked yelp yes they open at 9:00. Kept trying nothing - just continued ringing. I tried for the next 2 hours. Finally at 11:25 a young man answered and heard my issues. He said he would speak with his teammates and get back to me in 10 mins. At 2:00 I started calling friends who own Teslas and asked if this was normal one of these friends had a secret customer service number and I called it. Spoke with a very helpful person who put me on hold to call the delivery center and help get this sorted. After 10 mins on hold he returned to say they were not answering for him either. This person did follow up with an email CC d me and asked if it was not resolved by Friday to get back in touch with him. He gave me very good customer service was empathetic and understanding. 10 10. At 4:52 I heard from the call center. The person I spoke with informed me that the manager reviewed my situation and said the car was not a demo executive used car after all and they would get rid of the document I signed which said it was. After a long pause he said so we re good. To which I said sure and hung up. I mean I guess this is ok.... But it all sure feels weird. Also what s with no one answering the phone at the delivery center. I have hours invested in this process not to mention a rollercoaster of emotions: absolute excitement about our new can total disappointment confused concern... on and on. I love Tesla I love what Elon is doing and his vision - I have been a supporter of his for years. It is really sad that my first experience owning one of his cars was this...awkward. At any rate I guess this is resolved. I want to thank everyone who responded and shared your thoughts experience and advice. Communities like this are one of the cooler things about being a Tesla owner. Onwards and upwards! | 2019-03-13 01:22:35 | 22 | Here s the problem with this. While many will say “I plan to keep this car forever!”... things change and very few do. When it eventually does come time to sell and millions are on the road the used car market will be ripe with true one owner vehicles. The demo asterisk in your paperwork will follow the car to its grave. While it s not a big deal now it will be when resale competition is plentiful. What the delivery person told you is bullshit. No other way to say it. Personally I d be furious and likely would have refused delivery. At the very least I d bring this to the companies attention and request a swap. If they will do ‘full refunds and returns within x amount of days then they should have zero issue offering you a replacement... new... vehicle. If not ask for a refund and jump back online to repurchase. | 2019-03-13 01:56:44 | 31 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,719 |
I just drove half-way across the US in my Tesla. Here are some takeaways. | ## Background I just drove from roughly Denver to the Adirondack region in upstate New York over four days with a stop over in Chicago to meet up with my parents. I have a new 2022 Model Y (not the brand new battery though) that had about 300 miles on it before this trip and hadn t even seen a charger outside of the one I had installed at home. I slept in the car for a night on the way visited some super chargers and non-super chargers and mostly let the car drive itself. Here are a few observations. AMA. ## Autopilot Autopilot is GREAT! I paid for FSD but it still isn t unlocked for me (looking into that). Regardless for most of this trip I wouldn t be able to tell the difference. The car just drove itself on the highway and even off-highway through the winding roads in upstate NY for the most part. I had to (or felt I had to) take over occasionally but I was able to stay on the road longer and arrived less stressed than normal because I just didn t need to do much at all with the car. It was great! Honestly if I knew that going into it I probably would have saved the money and not gotten FSD especially considering I don t have access to it yet although I assume that will change. I guess I should update this statement once I have access to it and have used it a bit I m sure it s life changing. ## Sleeping The car is pretty comfortable just by itself. I know there are some solutions out there for mattresses to make it more comfortable (TesMat for one) but I was able to crash in a rest area for a few hours no problem with just a sleeping bag. I had a camping mat too but it turns out some holes had developed and it wouldn t hold air. Alas. The car only used 2% of battery for 5 hours of sleeping so that s pretty impressive. I had done an experiment before my drive and found that the car was mostly using about half a percent per hour in camp mode but that s probably going to depend on the temperature differential between your car and the outside air whether you re streaming media etc. I just kept the car at 65-66 F and slept so nothing much running except the air. It was in the high 30s to 40s F outside during that time. I would recommend bringing an eye mask if you have to sleep in a rest area. They re usually pretty well lit and the car is so open feeling it would be pretty bright in there without one. ## Charging Super chargers are great! I have a Tesla charger installed on its own 40 A circuit at my house but those super chargers are an order of magnitude faster! I was pretty blown away. I did encounter one super charger in the rain (not sure if that s related) that seemed to be bugging out and caused my car to do some weird things until I reset it (press both steering wheel buttons for a bit) twice! That one kept connecting and disconnecting according to the car and my steering wheel buttons and touch screen became less responsive. Also the blind spot cameras stopped showing up (black screen instead) the radio and streaming services went offline...it was weird! It was the only time I saw any weirdness but it was definitely weird. I would recommend that anyone traveling use the PlugShare app if they are in an area without many super chargers. The Adirondacks don t really have any super chargers but there are plenty of other options in the area that show up on PlugShare. It s made keeping the car charged up out here a lot easier and also gave me more confidence in driving into areas that are further away from the Tesla-navigation-preferred options. Charging on a regular 120 V house outlet is slooooow but it does get the job done. I ve done it a couple of times now on this trip and it s fine if you know you can leave the car for long periods between uses but not ideal if you are trying to charge up to cover some distance. Depending on the house I was plugged into I saw 1 kWh and 4-5 mi h peak charge rate. I get 8 kWh from my installed home charger and waaaaay more from super chargers. ## Pace One concern of mine was how far behind my parents I would be between Chicago and upstate NY. They were driving in a Toyota SUV regular gas engine so I figured they would have faster refueling stops and likely get an hour or so ahead of me each day. They ended up getting to our hotel on their first night my third about a half hour before me and arrived at our final destination ten minutes before me. I took my time at charging stations to give myself a bit of buffer so I d say it was pretty darn comparable! I typically drove about 2-3 hours between charging stations which seems comparable to what I would do in my Subaru with gas before the Tesla. The stops were longer for charging than gas but I honestly really appreciated the slower pace of the stops. I had more time to get out walk around stretch eat something use the facilities etc. If I were traveling with my dogs I m sure they would love the longer breaks and more walking too. Really no complaints there. ## Navigation I will say that the navigation sometimes seems a little wonky. It liked to plan my route from the beginning and then keep it static even if I took extra time and could make it to a later charger or something. It also doesn t really know when you want to stop and for instance keep the car in camp mode for a few hours so you need to consider that. Occasionally I had to just clear the nav and re-enter my destination to get it to recalculate stops for me. Not a big deal but something to be aware of. ## Overall I really love this thing for road trips now. It s so much easier to drive a car that mostly drives itself! The longer stops are actually kind of great and I m usually able to make it 2-3 hours between stops which is about when I need to go to the bathroom anyway so that works out. I m sure the future will see more and more charging stations set up all over the place but as-is the regular Tesla navigation paired with PlugShare seems to get the job done with no concern. ## Edit: a couple of issues OK so after writing this I thought about the trip some more and there were a few issues I had besides the wonky charging station and the car acting funny after that. They all had to do with autopilot FSD (not sure if it s FSD but somebody in the comments said it sounded like standard FSD). The car seems to really not want to drift out of the lane for construction even when cones are set up to block all but half a lane so you have to drive on the shoulder some. This happened a few times and I just had to take manual control with the car yelling at me about lane departures until it gave up. Kind of annoying. The other one and this one I think is actually a safety issue is that the autopilot sometimes just gets into its mind that the speed limit is like 30 mph less than the posted limit. It hit the brakes on me pretty hard a few times with no obstruction or traffic in front. I just took control and sped back up but if I was in traffic with somebody right behind me when that happened? Could have been bad. For the crazy number of hours I drove it didn t happen very much but it definitely freaked me out the few times it did. When letting the car change lanes for you when it hasn t decided to do so you can hold down on the turn signal until you re in the new lane or at least mostly there. The issue here was that if you released the turn signal a *little bit* too early the car would swerve back into the original lane. This happened quite a bit until I got the hang of it. I understand the reasoning behind this---interpret the driver stopping the signal as an abort and get the heck out of that lane change---but the behavior is probably alarming to others on the road and definitely to me when I wasn t expecting it (which was always). The only other thing was minor and didn t affect driving at all just the UI. The lane change graphic would pop up and disappear rapidly sometimes over and over again until I got close enough to a car in the slow lane that it made up its mind that I should actually pass. This one just seems like a filtering issue: don t ask if I want to change lanes until you re pretty sure I should but it was a bit of a distraction. So yeah not perfect but still great overall and I have to assume it will only get better as software updates come through. I still stand by my previous statement. I love this car now for road trips. | 2022-04-13 20:31:26 | 379 | Yeah IMO it s a great road trip car due to AP and plentiful superchargers. | 2022-04-13 22:09:24 | 94 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 8,928 |
Can you change the car you want after putting in the deposit? | Just a quick question. I just ordered a Model Y put in the $100 deposit and just waiting to decide when to take delivery. My issue is that before I officially ordered the Y I was on the fence of whether to get the Y 3 or a used 3. Does anyone know if it was possible to change the car from a Y to 3 (or even a used 3) without losing that deposit? Basically just move that deposit to the car you want? | 2021-01-16 17:00:04 | 12 | Can t switch the deposit between different models. | 2021-01-16 17:07:17 | 18 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 3,569 |
Will we ever see a return of Model 3 cloth seats? | To this day I m still confused on the move to keep the SR SR+ with an all glass roof and the leather seats. Does the community think we will see a return of cloth seats at any point? The way I figure it demand was dropping for LR and the MR faster than Tesla anticipated. But they weren t ready on the production floor to roll out cheaper seats roofs on a full basis (hence the initial SR which never actually got sold). Alternatively is the marginal cost for Tesla to put in the glass roof and leather seats over cloth truly that low? Tesla does make it s own seats after all. The real indications here will come out of the China GF I think. If Tesla wants an opportunity to retool a line it makes far more sense to do so on the new china lines (which are supposed to be the cheapest versions destined only for China) then it does to try and retooling in Fremont. | 2019-05-27 01:55:05 | 12 | I think at the moment it s a matter of the cost of maintaining two different production lines. The SR+ interior and exterior is majorly made up of the same components as the LR. I think a change to the roof would also involve redoing crash testing. I m hopeful that in the future the SR with a non-premium interior will reappear once Tesla s finances stabilize. | 2019-05-27 02:05:45 | 11 | Model 3 Seat Impressions | 23,732 |
Feature request: continuously monitor the parking sensors while parked to detect collisions. When something gets close (< 30in) and a key is not nearby (or a door is not open) activate the cameras. If said something hits the car send a notification on the app. | Should be able to turn this off in settings to avoid draining the battery during long term parking. Anyway someone hit our parked Model 3 and maybe we would have been able to get a license plate # had this existed :( | 2018-07-05 03:35:15 | 39 | Good idea. The new Mercedes-Benz C-Class has a very similar feature by the way. Apparently recording an incident using the cameras isn t possible yet due to issues with privacy laws though. | 2018-07-05 20:40:08 | 3 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 6,537 |
MCU2 Upgrade. | Has anyone done the MCU2 upgrade yet on a Model S or X that only has version 1? Is it even possible yet? I ve read online that it is possible but not yet read any posts about it being done or what the cost is for the swap out. I am looking at buying a model X that is equipped with HW2 MCU1 2017 with FSD and want to have the new MCU and ultimately the HW3 hardware. | 2019-06-30 23:32:54 | 9 | Nobody to date has been able to get this retrofit. It s not being offered yet no timeline either. | 2019-06-30 23:44:17 | 12 | Tesla Autopilot Performance | 11,263 |
Other than battery and maybe tires is the ludicrous acceleration hard on any other part of the car? | I know that gasp-inducing acceleration uses more battery per mile of travel than more normal acceleration and it also probably wears on the tires a bit more. Is there any other part of the car that is worse off for stomping on the accelerator occasionally? | 2019-07-08 17:19:35 | 16 | The front half-shafts. Ask any P100D owner that has launched or accelerated hard in anything but the low suspension setting. | 2019-07-08 18:24:02 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 14,529 |
Why does the top of the Model S cap at 130mph? | I know they re going to fix this for the Autobahn but why have the limit in the first place? Is it due to legal reasons or overheating of the battery? Or is it because the gear system can t attain those kind of speeds? | 2013-12-03 03:09:46 | 5 | Because the battery could overheat. So they cap it low enough so that can t really happen at those speeds. That s the biggest reason I know. There maybe other reasons | 2013-12-03 03:26:56 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 23,472 |
Front sensor removal and replacement | Hit a deer last night. Lucky me no body damage. The impact did pop the small drivers side sensor next to the license plate into the front bumper. I can stick my finger in the hole and feel the wiring. My question is does anybody know how these sensors are fastened to the bumper. I am thinking about removing the front bumper and hoping they just snap in versus bolt in and all i have to do is snap it back in. | 2019-07-01 18:24:49 | 7 | epoxied on. I had minor damage to my front bumper too and they had to replace the light housing and epoxy the new ultrasonic sensor back on. | 2019-07-01 18:34:12 | 2 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,012 |
FYI: Referral Winners with X s get the 22 Turbines instead of the 21 S Arachnids :) | Just got a survey asking if I want silver or black 22 s and which service center they should be delivered to. Obv opted for the black. EXCITED. | 2017-08-26 19:05:26 | 22 | Pic of survey? Congrats! | 2017-08-26 19:38:56 | 2 | Model Y Wheel Options | 6,315 |
Tesla Expediting paint options Obsidian Black and Metallic Silver | From an email I just got from Tesla: > In order to streamline manufacturing we will be reducing our car paint ordering options from seven to five colors on Thursday. Starting Friday Metallic Silver and Obsidian Black Metallic will only be offered as off-menu limited edition colors at $2 000. They currently cost $1 500. **Model 3 orders placed before Friday in Metallic Silver or Obsidian Black Metallic will be produced on an expedited basis so may be available as soon as two to four weeks**. As a reminder you can easily buy a Tesla online without visiting a store or doing a test drive and have it delivered directly to your home or work. We are highly confident that you will feel great about your purchase which is why you can always return it within two days for a full refund | 2018-09-12 07:45:45 | 10 | Anyone else notice the 2 day return policy? Is that new? | 2018-09-12 10:40:14 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,933 |
It s Official! But... | Placed an order for my Model X 60D today.. Test drove yesterday... Only thing is the website is having issues.. Store rep having problems entering referral code.. Design studio is not loading and Confirmation email came blank... sigh......Cancelling my Model 3 reservation sometime in the week.... Got 6 seat config smart suspension autopilot sub zero pkg dark ash multi pattern seats! Rep said delivery will be sometime in October!!! Will order the wall charger in a week or 2. Electrician will install for $350-450. | 2016-07-31 22:40:22 | 45 | Congrats! (Knew the test drive would get ya!) Now the intense wait! What color paint did you get? | 2016-07-31 22:44:15 | 9 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 10,279 |
Tesla Model S Pricing Questions | What are the savings in maintenance and fuel of a Tesla Model S compared to the expenses in maintenance and fuel of a comparable luxury car? Also could a Model S end up costing less than (or equal to) a cheaper (~$55 000) luxury car after factoring in maintenance fuel etc. Thanks in advance! Happy Halloween! | 2015-10-30 16:53:20 | 5 | > What are the savings in maintenance and fuel of a Tesla Model S compared to the expenses in maintenance and fuel of a comparable luxury car? Depends entirely on how much you drive and how much gas costs wherever you live. The more you drive the more savings a Tesla offers. > Also could a Model S end up costing less than (or equal to) a cheaper (~$55 000) luxury car after factoring in maintenance fuel etc. If you put enough miles on it absolutely. | 2015-10-30 17:10:24 | 6 | Tesla Warranty Maintenance Insights | 19,195 |
Update bug - 70D failed to go into reverse | Hi everyone not sure where to post this so I thought I d ask - is there a way to report bugs to Tesla Support? And has anyone else seen this yet? Got a call from my neighbor a few minutes ago asking for some help - as they were pulling into our parking garage their 70D failed to go into reverse. We put it into Tow Mode so a few of us could push it to a safe spot in the garage but in reverse all the car would do was roll. We didn t have space to test if it was also failing to respond in Drive. (FYI - get 3 people if you re gonna push this thing holy shit!) We ended up getting it working again with a full reboot as suggested by Tesla Service (Keep holding the pushwheels until after the T logo on the main screen shows up rather than releasing when it goes black) so at least there s a way to correct the issue. Anyway - if you run into this problem do the full reboot and you should be good to go. And as with all major bugs definitely call into Tesla to get it noted as an incident so it s more likely to be looked at and corrected. | 2015-10-26 23:34:24 | 25 | You can report bugs from the car using the voice command system. It s in the manual. There are some notes here too: http: my.teslamotors.com forum forums bug-report-form | 2015-10-27 04:39:28 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 21,774 |
National-wide Delivery Hold on All Refreshed Model S (Plaid and LR)! | A massive nationwide delivery hold on all new refreshed Model S (Plaid and LR) has been going on for more than one week now. Numerous customers have been reporting this including myself whose cars have been sitting at the delivery center for more than two weeks now. (Soon to be) my car arrived at the delivery center about two weeks ago and was supposed to be delivered on 7 19 21 but got a call from the delivery team right AFTER the delivery was supposed to happen that it s been put on hold. All we know so far is that the Fremont engineering team has told the all the delivery centers nationwide to not deliver these cars to the customers and to wait for more instructions. My local delivery team has no clue as to what the issue is software or hardware or how serious it is. I m thinking it has to be a huge issue for them to put a pause on ALL Model S delivery.... Just an FYI if you re waiting for your Model S... & #x200B Update 7 23 21: Looks like several people have now reported that the hold has been LIFTED! And that we all should get our cars in the next couple of days!!! Someone mentioned it was a firmware update and that they needed to validate the cars. This Model S buying experience has been surreal after 4+ months of constant delays and almost no communication from Tesla. I hope it will be worth it. On a positive note I m glad Tesla is taking the time to validate and make sure it is safe even knowing they might get some bad press in the process I just wish the communication was a bit better. | 2021-07-22 15:07:05 | 859 | I took delivery 7 13 and software is really buggy. Other than that no issues on the vehicle. | 2021-07-22 16:34:26 | 200 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 13,590 |
[Discussion] Have You Named Your Car and Why? | I m just curious honestly. My Model 3 is the first car that s given me the option to name my car so I did just that. The Model 3 being a Midnight Silver Metallic I decided to name it Skeith which is shadow in Old Scottish. I like that... Did you name your cars? And if you did why? I d like to see a discussion on this! | 2018-01-09 21:13:03 | 11 | My Model S my Roadster and my future Model 3 have been will be named Stela . Obviously its an anagram. | 2018-01-09 21:21:58 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 24,384 |
My totaled Model 3 was upgraded to the Performance | https: imgur.com a JPdck2w My Model 3 dual motor LR was totaled in a parking lot fender bender last year in june so i got the 2019 instead. Fast forward to yesterday. I started getting a notification that i had a software update (Yay!!). Open the app so that I can install it search for a bit and i cant find the update. Close the app and the notifications pops up again after a few minutes. Clicked the notification and it opens the mobile app but this time it shows my car with all the doors and trunk open. My cars parked in the garage and its for sure not open. Then i notice the cars in Kyiv. It all clicks. Its my old car that now has full enhanced autopilot with summon and it also has the red performance bar under the name. Was my salvage model 3 hacked to get upgrades? | 2020-03-14 22:27:49 | 157 | The real question I have is how in the world did a parking lot fender bender result in your car being totaled? | 2020-03-14 23:09:17 | 109 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,517 |
A solar co. is selling the Powerwall2 for double the cost. | [the email](https: imgur.com gallery j43Pl) My mom recently got solar panels on her house a good deal and they are efficient. But the company sent her this email trying to get her to buy a Powerwall2 from them at $12 500! A single PW. They even claim the deal ends May1st which happens to be the day the Ca SGIP incentive re-opens. Don t know how they get away with this crap. Of course she is buying the Powerwall through Tesla. I will get one also when I get their roof. Is this typical? Are companies trying to sell the Powerwalls at inflated prices? The co. pulling the scam. la-solargroup.com https: www.tesla.com powerwall?redirect=no http: www.cpuc.ca.gov sgip | 2017-04-21 00:58:28 | 10 | How much would installation run? They are giving a price for it installed... | 2017-04-21 01:23:30 | 5 | Issues with Tesla Energy Installation | 1,023 |
A Surprisingly inspiring quote came from r wallstreetbets today: | > This is one of the big investing events that I live for. This event is literally everything. A company - and its creator s vision - thrives or dies today. I m happy to commit my money to be a small part of its history and have a story to tell. I ve been trading this stock for years. Today could be the end of my journey with it. I m not letting an old friend face the music alone. Although I won t be partaking in reserving a model 3 (be still my heart) I can rest easy knowing that tomorrow could be the start of a glorious future or the end of a long journey with a close friend. Credit where it s due shout-out to u epicer for this quote. | 2016-03-31 19:02:05 | 26 | They have a history of outperforming expectations so I m holding today. | 2016-03-31 19:12:40 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 888 |
The Norwegian Consumer Disputes Commission ruled against Tesla in the missing P85D HP-case | The Norwegian Consumer Disputes Commission ruled against Tesla in the missing P85D horsepower case. Tesla have 4 weeks to appeal to court and if not it becomes a valid conviction in Norwegian law. The complainee was awarded NOK50.000 which is around $6000. A PDF of the verdict can be seen here http: innsyn.e-kommune.no innsyn_ftu_design wfdocument.ashx?journalpostid=2016013278& dokid=233333& versjon=1& variant=P& . I was able to use Google Translate on the document if any of you english speakers wants to read it. Rumors has it that Norwegian press will be writing about it soon. I m scheduled for the ludicrous-update but this makes me unsure of the whole situation if other buyers are getting settlement money for the missing horsepower. I doubt I ll be reimbursed if I ll go for the upgrade. This can become very expensive for Tesla! | 2016-06-29 14:42:00 | 16 | Thanks for the info. Can you post the translated version? Would like to read it. Cheers | 2016-06-29 15:41:08 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 20,694 |
Tesla to roll out software update to fix minimum sound requirements for EVs on 578k vehicles says NHTSA | [https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ](https: eletric-vehicles.com 2022 02 10 tesla-to-roll-out-software-update-to-fix-minimum-sound-requirements-for-evs-on-578k-vehicles-says-nhtsa ) | 2022-02-10 13:49:48 | 403 | Hey NHTSA -- How about getting BlueCruise to make an audible notification when the system gets disabled on a minor turn while people are hands-free on the highway. There a recall for that yet? Seems a bit more dangerous. | 2022-02-10 14:54:08 | 347 | Tesla Software Updates Overview | 20,381 |
Has everyone here gotten 8.0 ? | Just wondering if you have gotten 8.0 already. I am in Canada with a refreshed s haven t gotten the update yet. | 2016-09-25 15:52:53 | 6 | Not me in Wyoming USA | 2016-09-25 16:11:47 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 7,649 |
Refreshed Model S miniature? | Well this is going to sound stupid but is there a refreshed Model S matchbox car or something? I used to keep one in my 2014 S just for fun and now that it s visually different from the face lifted model I wanted a new one. What about the X? I looked on Amazon and found nothing. There was a novelty in having a tiny version of my car... Inside my car. | 2016-08-18 21:58:18 | 38 | They should provide a facelift retrofit for the classic matchbox car :D | 2016-08-19 00:11:52 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 16,308 |
European price model 3 & Y as Giga Berlin is operational ... your guess? | Hi everyone As 2020 is coming to an end I am looking forward to 2021 which will be the year I will buy my first tesla! One of the first question that comes to my mind (as many other european consumers) is what will be the price of model 3 & Y once Giga Berlin is operational? Knowing the price cut in China what would be your guess (Incl. 21% VAT & no gov. incentives)? FYI currently M3 SR+ is averaging around a little less than 50k€ & MY LR around 64k€. | 2020-12-26 10:19:57 | 15 | Well the 10% import tax would be gone and the 2000 euro shipping fee would be lower. However German production might be more costly... I thought that Giga Berlin would only produce Ys for the forseeable future though? | 2020-12-26 10:33:49 | 9 | Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration | 6,067 |
Leaky Pano Roof | I ve had my S 60 for a year now bought it as a CPO. The first time I took it through a touchless automatic car wash water dripped onto me and onto the passenger seat. The Service Center subsequently cleaned out the drains for the sunroof which made some improvement. But *every single time* I ve used an automated car wash water has still found its way into the interior. One of the common spots is actually through the reading lights in the rear seats! Does anyone else experience this? I m still under CPO warranty and wondering how much to push for a fix. Is this a common problem? Am I likely hiding mildew in the headliner? | 2017-10-09 19:07:42 | 15 | There have been several pano revisions - you should take it to service and ask if they ve updated it to the most recent. | 2017-10-09 19:09:54 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,743 |
Model Y wait time not as long as many think | I ordered the dual motor long range Y on 2 22 and got the ‘prepare for delivery email today! I was expecting a much longer wait - late this year or early next year - so I was super surprised when I got the message. Is this an indicator of much higher production volume lower than expected demand less pre-orders than projected - or a combination of all of the above? Don t get me wrong I m very excited and feel lucky. For those of you wondering the time between order and delivery... it may be shorter than you think! | 2020-03-11 04:00:43 | 42 | Just got multiple calls today to make sure all my paper work and stuff is right on my account.. Told the guy I don t even have the finances for it just yet..still gotta sell my old SUV and see what kinda loans I can get..ugh & #x200B AWD Midnight Long Range Performance \*not the upgrade package\* Bay Area. Ordered a few weeks ago. | 2020-03-11 04:39:52 | 32 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 13,054 |
Fire Alarm for Tesla garage | Gen 2 Mobile Chargers Tesla has reduced the max amerage to 32A. The rumors are that it was due to reported fires with Mobile Chargers connected to NEMA 14-50 going at 40A. Has anyone has any reccs on remote fire alarm that is good at electrical fires? FEMA recommends Heat Alarm instead of Fire Alarm for garages any thoughts? https: www.usfa.fema.gov prevention outreach garage_fires.html New reduced Amperage Tesla Mobile Charger https: shop.tesla.com us en product vehicle-accessories model-s_x_3-mobile-connector-bundle.html?sku=1139373-00-A | 2018-01-17 16:54:52 | 25 | The reason standard smoke and carbon monoxide detectors are not specified for garages is because of the actual presence of smoke and carbon monoxide from burning gas or diesel. My family is all EV and we never have a gas car in the garage so I installed a Nest Protect in the garage that s interconnected with 7 others throughout my home. It s been installed for a year with no false alarms and always tests fine. | 2018-01-17 17:33:33 | 23 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 6,653 |
Problem with Model 3 V10 download | Last night I downloaded the V10 update 2019.32.11.1 for my performance Model 3 (EAP and no FSD). After the download I found I had Cuphead JoeMode and Vent. Weirdly I don t have Spotify and the Tesla theatre is just a blank screen. I have done 2 soft resets but that hasn t helped. I have had no response from chat or emailing Tesla support. I have seem model S and X owners with similar complaints with MCU1 cars but haven t found anything regarding model 3. Has anyone experienced anything like this or does anyone have any suggestions? Edit: Solved! If this is happening to you you don t need to wait for a patch. A factory reset (under service menu) fixed it for me. In doing so it created a new headache as all my data was gone . I had to set up the car again reprogram Homelink set up my phone as a key again. Also Nav had me at Tesla HQ until I set my phone key location services to ‘always . It was a pain but it worked. | 2019-10-03 19:00:58 | 11 | I have had the same issue with my Model 3 LR-RWD FSD. I have Cuphead JoeMode Smart Summon etc but: * Theater appears blank * Caraoke and Spotify are totally missing I opened a service request with them and they reached out via txt to resolve. They pushed the update to my car 3 times to no avail. They closed the ticket with * I just received word that the firmware team is aware of the issue. They are working on a fix that will be rolled out in the future. I do not have an ETA. The browser is a workaround for Netflix and Youtube. But we ll need to wait on the fix for Caraoke and Spotify. This fix will automatically be rolled out when it is ready. Sorry about not having a solid ETA but at least we know a team is working on it and it ll be fixed automatically. * Edit added model. | 2019-10-03 19:42:37 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,579 |
Tesla Daily Discussion - November 25 2018 | Use this daily thread for questions and answers general daily topic discussion and sharing your experiences (sightings orders deliveries custom vehicles vanity plates and now memes). Use this format to [share your order status](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93xpx4 tesla_daily_discussion_august_02_2018 e3grqk5 ). Find our [Latest Daily Discussions](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). Share your [Ideas and Feedback](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Idea%2FFeedback+Megathread%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). See the most recent OTA Software Megathreads [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates). If you re looking for even more updates check out [active podcasts](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki podcasts). And finally remember to be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules (this includes sharing your referral code or begging offering). [Q3 Earnings Megathread](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 9r1iru tesla_tsla_third_quarter_2018_results_and ) | 2018-11-25 09:12:16 | 5 | Just wanted to share my delivery experience from 11 24 (yesterday) for a model 3 LR AWD. & #x200B I traded in my old vehicle. The trade in process took about three weeks to get an evaluation back. Once that happened things started moving pretty fast. The delivery advisor was beyond fantastic and helped me through a few different issues that I caused. She was exceptionally responsive (emailed me back within 10 mins of an email) and was very caring. The actual pick up happened without any issues- in and out in about an hour total. Car was in perfect shape still haven t seen anything wrong. Got to try out autopilot on the way back home and the experience is beyond words. For those on the fence on autopilot (I was) I would 100% recommend it. It s not perfect but it s way cool. & #x200B Hope this helps someone! Overall super satisfied with the experience and love the new car. | 2018-11-25 15:38:23 | 6 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 18,817 |
Ability to save user preferences to a USB or in the Tesla cloud | There s a few scenarios where having the ability to download save user profile settings would be really helpful: * Upgrading to a new Tesla. For example trade in your Model 3 hop into your Model Y and apply or automatically have your profile settings set as they were before. Similar scenario if you are replacing a totaled vehicle. * In a family that share multiple Tesla vehicles making it easy to quickly synchronize settings between two cars (where applicable depending if the same or different model). * Getting a Tesla loaner. For example once you get a loaner you could quickly apply your profile and be on your way just like it was your own car. * Having your MCU reset at some point for example as being reported during some HW3.0 upgrades * Future ride sharing program. Users could have their own profile that they could apply when they rent the car. | 2020-02-13 16:29:03 | 29 | ~~They ve stated~~ Somebody conjectured that s a goal. | 2020-02-13 16:31:36 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 1,157 |
First impressions of the Model 3 glass roof? | I m trying to figure out if this is a worthwhile upgrade. Is it impressive? I m assuming it s less impressive than the one on the Model X. But does it truly make the feeling of driving it more immersed with the surroundings? Does it wow driver and passengers (also in the back)? | 2017-10-23 20:56:07 | 10 | This is the best pic of the 3 sections of the glass roof. https: www.tesla.com configurator compositor ?model=m3& view=STUD_SEAT& size=1900& file_type=jpg& options=PPSW | 2017-10-23 21:46:27 | 17 | Ceramic Coating Application Process | 6,720 |
My thoughts after the first weekend with my Model 3 | Greetings! So I picked up my 2021 Model 3 in Mannheim Germany on Friday 27 November. [https: www.reddit.com r TeslaModel3 comments k2674h so\_i\_bought\_the\_thing\_2021\_lr ](https: www.reddit.com r TeslaModel3 comments k2674h so_i_bought_the_thing_2021_lr ) & #x200B After about 3 days and 500 kilometers I d like to share my thoughts. Pickup was pretty painless. My appointment got moved from Saturday to Friday because they wanted to limit the number of people at the dealership at any one time. No problem for me I had everything pre-registered. I signed the paperwork and did a little inspection. Took me about 20 minutes to check everything. Outside looked good no issue with panel gaps or anything like that. Doors windows trunk frunk all good. I believed the wireless charging pad didn t work only to discover my phone does not support wireless charging. And it has summer tires so I gotta address that soon. I was thinking they would be all-seasons. Oh well. First ride: Holy shit! I ve never owned a performance car so I most definitely wasn t used to the acceleration. Those dual motors can *go.* I had some business is Kaiserslautern about 60-70km figured that would be a good test of the overall ride energy consumption and so on. I got the car with about 65% battery and got to the supercharger in the city at about 44%. I was pushing a little faster than I normally would about 130 km h on the highways I d normally average about 115-120. Charging from 42% to 90% took about 35 minutes...once I found a working charger. I was a little more conservative on the trip back only used about 17% of the battery instead of 22%. Looking right for your information will take some getting used to. On Saturday the wife and I went to a mall nearby. She loved the car. Seats are comfy sound system is great. The mall had a charging area. So we took advantage while shopping. I had her drive back. She likes the car s power as well. On Sunday the problems came. I don t have home charging yet so I drove out to town to charge up. Autopilot doesn t work because the left camera is unavailable . I ve heard this usually fixes itself over time. So it was no big deal for me. I don t have FSD and probably won t use autopilot much anyway. The biggest problem was that ***I don t have heat in the cabin!!*** Perhaps I should be lucky that the temperatures are only a few degrees below freezing but damn! I drove to Ramstein to see family and it is not a fun drive with no heat. The earliest available appointment is Thursday and also 140kms away. I tried soft reboot hard reboot nothing. I am a few updates behind but it s slow going to update. My Wi-fi doesn t reach from the 3rd floor very well. So overall I am really liking the Model 3 my first BEV and my first new car in 14 years. But not having heat in freezing weather is a real problem. & #x200B UPDATE 30-NOV: Well the heat seems to be functioning now. I didn t do anything other than let her sit overnight and think about what she did. I ll see how the next couple of days go. | 2020-11-29 23:25:18 | 74 | Uhhh if you buy a car and the heating doesn t work and it s literally freezing you deserve a same-day appointment and a fuckin free rental for as long as it takes to get it fixed. I would be LIVID. This is why people have lengthy checklists of issues to check upon delivery so they can refuse the car in the first place. Because apparently Tesla is so bad at making their cars actually functional in one try that this is a necessary thing. | 2020-11-29 23:32:08 | 56 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 13,506 |
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Delivery Delayed the Afternoon Before | Was supposed to get my 3 tomorrow morning and got the call today that the car is still in transit and waiting to hear from logistics where it is. Now tentative for Tuesday but fingers crossed for before and worrying it will be after. I was in the final hours of the last excruciating day before delivery. Could be worse but still no fun to have Christmas canceled on Christmas Eve. | 2018-04-20 01:26:54 | 30 | I flew home early from a business trip took a day off and was called 3 hours before delivery that the car didn t make it on time. Was going overseas for 2 weeks the following week so had to completely unfuck Tesla s shitty logistics communication management and fit it into my work schedule. I feel your pain. | 2018-04-20 01:33:39 | 14 | Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences | 4,935 |
Traveling across the US in my Model Y | Since Covid-19 has made my partner and I remote for the foreseeable future we have decided to purchase a Model Y (LR BLUE WHITE 20 WHEELS FSD) put all our stuff in storage and travel across the US staying at AirBnB s 30ish days at a time. I am curious if anyone has any tips or potential pitfalls of using my Tesla in this way. This is my first time buying an EV and first time traveling like this. I got a lot of push back about using an EV in general from friends family coworkers etc. I have put the concerns and my responses below. Are there any negatives or positives I left out? Things I have researched already: Q: When your car runs out of charge what will you do? A: I would have the car plan the route to charge as needed and when possible use the 110 outlets at AirBnB s. Charging may add time to our trip but we would not be in a rush. I checked the trip planner for all the cities I would be visiting Las Vegas => Salt Lake City => Denver => Kansas City etc. and so far it seems there are enough superchargers to make it Q: Won t packing so much stuff lower your range significantly from the 300+ miles to 150 or so? A: I guess maybe and if so it just means more time charging one a month when we travel to a new city. Q: It will be cold in some places won t you lose even more range? A: I guess yes but again hopefully not a terrible amount and I am okay with an extra half hour of travel time I suppose. Q: Those cars look small. Can you fit enough stuff to live out of it for an extended period A: Looks big enough for me and I suspect I will not need as much stuff as you would think and I will find out just how little I need. So far we will take two portable desks a nice desk chair and suitcases. Q: What happens if you get in a wreck and the repair will take a month or more (The concern about needing Tesla specific service centers) A: I assume it gets towed to Tesla Service Center Insurance gives me a rental and we set up in whatever area we happen to be in until the repair is complete. Q: Wouldn t an ICE vehicle be a better choice for this as it has better support when it comes to gas stations and repair shops.... sure you COULD use a Tesla but wouldn t you be happier with an ICE? A: I do not think so my most significant reason for a Tesla was self-driving on the highway and the supercharging network. It seems to be the best choice for me. Q: Aren t Tesla s more prone to tire blow outs when hitting a pothole? A: I assume not shouldn t be anymore than any other car. Should this happen I would have it towed and a new tire put on. | 2020-09-17 18:37:05 | 21 | Seems like you ve thought it out and are looking for affirmation. I see no issues with your logic and wish you well on your nomadic lifestyle. | 2020-09-17 18:46:52 | 23 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 21,458 |
Introducing TeslaCaching | About two weeks ago I launched a little project I came up with and wanted to let r teslamotors know about it. TeslaCaching is my attempt to create a fun trackable game with Tesla owners. This idea came from my wife s love of geocaching and the trackables they have travel from cache to cache. I thought that the Tesla community would be a great place to try something similar where we have cars travel from Supercharger to Supercharger. I got some Hot Wheels Teslas drilled some holes put on a label with a QR code and linked it to a google form. 24 cars have been launched and already one has traveled from Worchester MA to Fort Wayne IN. & #x200B https: preview.redd.it 78hk80ucqg841.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=adf6b91e763fdb7a99069f1feab7b4f85b8bdcc6 If you discover one of these cars please log your find then take it with you as you travel. Log it at as many SuperChargers as you can and then leave it somewhere new for another owner to find. My goal is to watch these cars travel around the country and hopefully all the way to Freemont CA. & #x200B [The original 12 cars. ](https: preview.redd.it clnq6yrarg841.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=761288694d3eb027ce72087af86801d513136202) [12 additional cars placed today.](https: preview.redd.it axc3qc2hrg841.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=1004699a44b31e28490b86237ff108e4a867ea60) **If you are interested in launching some cars in your area please PM me.** You can follow the journey at [www.teslacaching.com](http: www.teslacaching.com) (link not working - direct link to google site: [https: sites.google.com view teslacaching home](https: sites.google.com view teslacaching home).) Follow us on twitter: TeslaCaching Post pictures of the journey on any social media platform tagged with #teslacaching. | 2020-01-03 01:29:09 | 257 | This is so cool. I will definitely be participating! | 2020-01-03 01:31:12 | 42 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 9,819 |
Has anyone else experienced windshield wiper theft? | Today it rained and we went out to drive our Model X and noticed that the driver windshield wiper was missing. We went to multiple auto parts shops before realizing that you must buy them from tesla then when we talked to the dealership they told us that it was most likely stolen as the wipers are hard to take off. Has anyone else experienced this kind of thing or heard of it. | 2020-01-11 01:51:49 | 102 | Last I heard of wiper blades getting stolen was in the final days of the Soviet Union some 30 years ago. | 2020-01-11 02:58:55 | 182 | Tesla Model 3 Wiper Concerns | 7,551 |
Color choices need a refresh | While I realize that Tesla doesn t do major refreshes often (or ever) the current flagships are starting to feel a bit stale. I feel like Tesla could just offer new exclusive colors and wheels every few years and it would help the cars to feel fresh and wouldn t be a huge resource cost to Tesla (compared to making major design changes like most automakers do). What do you think? | 2019-08-07 17:08:19 | 24 | British racing green. | 2019-08-07 17:08:52 | 24 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 3,986 |
Tesla s in-car data speeds in New Zealand is terrible and has been for a while now | With the huge boom in sales of Tesla s in New Zealand (Model Y was the [top selling car in September](https: www.stuff.co.nz motoring 130062828 tesla-tops-monthly-sales-for-september?rm=a)) the quirky setup Tesla has for in-car data connections seems to have become overloaded. The point of this post is to try get some visibility on the issue. For some background Tesla in New Zealand does not use any of the local carriers to provide connectivity. Instead they use a Telstra connection (an Australian cell carrier) that then roams on New Zealand networks. I believe they then have a private APN for the connection as services see the connection as coming from Australia so Netflix shows the Australian library rather than New Zealand and local NZ streaming sites don t work due to their geoblocks not seeing a NZ connection. The above was probably fine when Tesla was lucky to sell 1000 cars a year when it was just the Model S & X but now that they re selling a few thousand cars a quarter it s clearly overwhelmed. Currently owners are lucky to get 600kbps - here s what I got yesterday: https: preview.redd.it mwdwxkdc28w91.jpg?width=443& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=32758de4689c584eaef0386ab11cd91b62783719 It s at the point now that even connecting to the car via the Tesla App is almost unusable. I literally need to leave the app open 5 mins or more before it will eventually connect to the car (while it is awake due to Sentry being on). Spotify is often unusable now and Netflix YouTube etc is not even worth trying. Why pay for Premium Connectivity to get near dial up speeds? People have reported that Tesla is fixing it but that was a few months ago now and it s only gotten worse. I personally don t see a roaming Australian connection as being feasible going forward - it s time Tesla used a local NZ carrier even if that takes away the one perk of this setup where the car can roam onto whatever network has the best coverage. Before people might blame the local carriers no our 4G network is more than capable of delivering 50mbps+. | 2022-10-26 22:07:45 | 70 | Tesla have likely contracted with Telstra (try saying that ten times fast) out of convenience more than anything else. Telstra has arrangements with all of the cell networks in New Zealand enabling Tesla to minimise management overhead for the market. Tesla could ask Telstra to fix this without an issue and they may have already done so. Telstra have stupidly long lead times when it comes to doing anything though! One would hope that Tesla isn t shipping physical SIM cards with their cars which would make things easier to switch over if a change was made. | 2022-10-27 00:16:13 | 13 | Car Software Update Connectivity | 20,232 |
Law to add noise to EV and hybrid cars at low speeds | I was curious what everyone s thoughts are on this: https: www.theverge.com 2018 2 28 17059694 hybrid-ev-car-noise-nhtsa-nissan | 2018-02-28 19:08:02 | 23 | I want pedestrian noise system sounds to be the next ringtones. Let me download a Jetsons theme or like... Terry Crews making bbbrbrbrrbrrbrb sounds like he s pretending to drive a matchbox car around a plastic track. Safety-wise (edit: as mentioned in the article) NHTSA studies have shown that externally quiet vehicles add significantly to pedestrian bicyclist injury rates so I m not opposed to warning systems designed to offset that risk. | 2018-02-28 19:11:10 | 28 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 10,741 |
Nashville TN store remodel coming | The store in Brentwood TN (near Nashville) is getting remodeled in Q1 2018. Details I was told made re Supercharger spots and a change to the building to give 24 7 restroom access to those charging. Not sure if the timeframe I was given was in Musk time or regular time. | 2017-08-23 13:30:42 | 17 | The 24 7 restroom access is interesting. I bet they start using Model 3 style key cards for access. | 2017-08-23 13:56:30 | 3 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,586 |
More evidence of higher Tesla voltages in the future - putting napkin math and other numbers to the rumors | I watched a great video about slightly higher voltages coming with the 4680 packs. The 5 years ahead youtube channel noticed something the detail that Tesla had right out in the open (number of cells) hung in strips of 69 (nice) and did the math and came up with the idea that newer packs could operate with two of those strips in series to get 138 cells in series at a maximum of 580 volts assuming they d be compatible with the 2170 packs. There was a twitter rumor about 324 KW supercharger V3 coming later this year. So I did some looking around at things that are right out in the open and did some simple math too trying to put math to the two rumors to see if they could both corroborate each other. First off the DC portion of V3 superchargers operate from 880-1000 volts. The writing is literally on the wall of every supercharger V3 cabinet. Don t take my word for it go look next time you re at a V3 supercharger. It s on the side of the power conversion cabinets. They re the ones with the radiator fan cage on the top. The V3 power conversion modules operate near the 1000 volts *TODAY* It s not some new wiz-bang tech that Tesla has to develop. It s old hat. It s recycled PowerPack and Megapack technology and it s in every single installed V3 cabinet today. According to the same name plate on every V3 supercharger today it says the charge posts are rated at 0-500 volts. The red white charge posts themselves have a nameplate sticker that says it s rated to 1000 volts. So the charging cords posts are certainly ready for it. But even 500 volts is more voltage than any Tesla (except semi?) today. And 631 amps. (But people have seen 688 amps out of V3!) But 631 amps times 500 volts is 315KW. 688 amps at 500 volts is 344KW. If the newest MY Texas 4680 packs do operate at a slightly higher voltage (580 volts max) that is 514 volts nominal to get 3.7 volt nominal cell voltage of a 138 series cell pack that would mean that the V3 superchargers could do 631 time 514 volts nominal and hit exactly 324KW. 324KW at nominal pack voltage. I think that s where the 324KW rumor came from. V3 max rated current at nominal pack voltage equals 324KW. But it could in theory peak out at 366KW at 580 peak volts. And 366KW is about the output of one V3 cabinet minus conversion losses. (Assume 99% efficient for the AC to DC converter and 99% efficient for the DC to DC converter) And it would slightly best the 350KW of Electrify America chargers and that would make Elon very happy. There are some questions though. First off the 580 max pack voltage is 16% higher than the 500 volt name plate on the V3 superchargers but well under the 1000 volt rating of the charge post. But they already have been seen pushing current by 10% over supercharger nameplate rating so this might actually be ordinary behavior for Tesla Superchargers. The V2 superchargers have a nameplate that maxes out at 410 volts but they will charge a Plaid S at 455 volts so a V2 supercharger will over volt 11% over nameplate. So there is established precedent that Tesla supercharger name plates even the V2 can under promise and over deliver. I think that the DC to DC converters that feed the current to the charging posts in the V3 superchargers are current limited to about 315 rated amps per converter with two converters sharing the load to each post (631 amps per post). We know from the nameplate that the DC to DC converters are 880-1000 volts input and I think they are also 0-1000 volts output rather than 0-500 Volts output coupled via a galvanic isolated switching power supply (so the input and outputs are isolated for safety again per the nameplate) and they are current limited by heat dissipation because physics. And being current limited their power output only goes up as voltage goes up. That would match up to what I ve seen looking at Tesla charge curve graphs and all of the above numbers. It s the simplest explanation. I think ultimately the V3 supercharger s upper limits are 631 amps at 951 volts per charge post. 600KW. And I think that s the end goal once there are 950 volt packs. Elon Musk: A mere 350 kW ... what are you referring to a children s toy? 11:18 AM · Dec 24 2016·Twitter for iPhone. The only thing holding them back from higher charge rates is local grid capacity and or local battery storage (documented in their supercharger emergency responder guide) and increased vehicle pack voltage. I think the Texas 4680 MY are the first steps to higher pack voltage with more higher voltages coming later. Would this mean that the Texas MY would *ONLY* work at V3 superchargers? Maybe. Or maybe they ll use the on board drive inverter to boost the battery voltage like some other non Tesla EVs already do today. Or maybe they ll reconfigure the pack voltage in series parallel for with (3?) extra contactors depending if it s at a V2 or V3 supercharger. That would be a neat way to leverage the installed lower voltage V2 superchargers while still benefitting from the higher voltage and charge rates of V3 chargers. Run at 514 volts nominal for driving and V3 and when you plug in to a V2 supercharger there s a clunk a pause then another clunk as the contactors reconfigure the pack for 257 volts nominal voltage. Then two more clunks once unplugged so the pack is reconfigured for 514 nominal volts before the charger handle is even hung back up. Oh and Tesla if you are not doing that series parallel trick but you want to do that series parallel trick feel free to patent it and use the idea in exchange for one top trimmed CyberTruck with FSD signed by Elon. Just DM me the details of when and where to pick it up. TLDR Supercharger V3 can do well over 250KW maybe even up to 600KW but it will take higher pack voltages to get there and it makes sense that Tesla would roll these out in steps. The Texas 4680 MY is probably one of those steps. Edit: Formatting because I m bad at Reddit. | 2022-04-26 18:38:02 | 5 | The [EPA documents](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments u1926z confirmation_of_4680_in_279_mile_texas_model_y i4be1e5 ) that were updated to include the 279 mile version of Model Y seem to directly contradict the assertion of a higher voltage pack. Per page 57 of the [EPA Certificate of Conformity for the new Model Y AWD](https: dis.epa.gov otaqpub display_file.jsp?docid=54971& flag=1): > Total Voltage of Battery Packs: **360** Compare this to [Model S Plaid](https: dis.epa.gov otaqpub display_file.jsp?docid=54023& flag=1) (page 21): > Total Voltage of Battery Packs: **410** and [Model 3 AWD](https: dis.epa.gov otaqpub display_file.jsp?docid=54290& flag=1) (page 37): > Total Voltage of Battery Packs: **360** | 2022-04-26 20:29:00 | 21 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 13,118 |
Still confused about charging options for Model 3. | My buddy is about to take delivery of his Model 3 in a week. He had this 220v utility outlet installed: https: imgur.com a 720sn Do people normally plug their Tesla s right into that socket or do they get a a dedicated charger? I was suggesting he get the Juicebox charger but am I wrong on that? | 2018-04-01 16:04:50 | 8 | You don t need a charger. All you need is a 240V Nema 14-50 outlet. Check out [this](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=R14EYxjIdYw) video. The juicebox charger is not a good idea because the plugs are different. You would need to use an adapter. Besides the UMC (which comes with the car) the other option would be the $500 [Tesla Wall Connector](https: shop.tesla.com us en category vehicle-accessories model-3.html#tesla.car.accessories.model.3.m3.charging.adapters). | 2018-04-01 16:29:31 | 6 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 17,777 |
Query for owners of Model S & Matchbox toy | Hi all I have an odd silly question. Would someone who owns a Model S as well as the Model S matchbox toy be able to post a photo of the toy next to the key fob? This is for a size shape comparison. Many thanks :) | 2015-12-10 11:30:12 | 7 | Hiya Here is my Model S key with the UK matchbox Model S :-) My kids have some open ones but no idea what they have done with them!! hope it helps :-) http: imgur.com gallery BMH2tkM | 2015-12-10 11:44:22 | 4 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic | 15,727 |
[Discussion] Destination Charger Etiquette - How long is a destination visit? | The last time this subreddit had a destination charger thread it was from the perspective of a business owner that had a destination charger and it was two years ago. My question is: For a destination charger is a destination for a few hours going shopping or doing some tourist thing . . . or can destination be 48-72 hours for an out-of-town weekend destination? & #x200B Winter is coming and those in colder climates are facing things like short trips to other towns. I m talking about trips where you have to park your car 48-72 hours in below-freezing temps. Destination chargers are growing in numbers especially in public parking garages. What is the etiquette for using them as a *day-trip* destination versus a *weekend* destination? Smart use of a destination charger would allow you to avoid a supercharger stop either just before or after your destination maybe even allowing you to make the trip home without a stop if you can hit the road fully charged. & #x200B For example Chicago s Millennium Park has a bunch of destination chargers spread throughout four public parking garages. Each has about two chargers at 6kw. If one were to visit Chicago for a weekend like Friday through Sunday and park there staying at a nearby hotel is it okay to take up a charger Friday to Sunday? Or is the better etiquette to park in a nearby non-charger space and plug it in later in the trip? That requires an extra trip to swing by the garage in the winter sometime on Saturday or Sunday. If you do plug it in later rather than a full 48 hours is it acceptable to plug-in Saturday night and leave it until mid-day Sunday? That s like 12-18 hours. & #x200B By the way at 6kW how long does it take to add something like 150 miles to a Model 3? | 2018-10-21 18:02:44 | 14 | Charger etiquette is to move your car once you are at 80% or above or first thing in the morning if it was an overnight charge. | 2018-10-21 18:45:20 | 34 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 24,272 |
I have a feeling something is off about my Model 3 battery. Here are my numbers. | I continuously feel like I m getting always short of what I m suppose to be getting in terms of range and I can t figure out if I m missing something. I would really appreciate it if someone looked over these details and let me know what I m missing or where I am wrong. Here are some details about the car. RWD Model 3. Aero caps always on. I park in a covered garage at work and in my garage at home so It never gets hot enough for Cabin Overheat protection. I rarely wake the car up via the app only when I m near it to pop open the frunk. I have yet to charge beyond 90% as recommended by Tesla. 5 super charging sessions total. Took delivery in mid-July 2018. Here are the numbers from my last charge cycle. Started at 90% battery (279 miles) Ended at 6%(18 miles) 248.8 miles traveled 53 kWh used 213 Wh mi Based off of these numbers here s what I extrapolated. 84% of my battery = 53 kWh (based off start and end charge percentage) 53 is 84% of 63. EPA docs show Model 3 has an 80 kWh pack but most of the online community has come to the consensus that it s roughly 75kWh usable. It s also known that EPA tests showed 334 miles on a full charge but Tesla asked them to lower it to 310 for consistency across the LR battery line. If the pack is 75kWh then 84% of that pack should be 63kWh. Therefore at 213 Wh Mi I should have been able to travel about 296 miles going from 90% to 6%. Instead 84% battery usage for me was really 53kWh. So I somehow lost 10kWh or 16% of my battery to something and I can t think of what it could be. Are my numbers off? Am I missing something? I would really appreciate it if someone can point me in the right direction. Edit:Formatting | 2018-10-25 02:07:29 | 9 | If your car is showing an average of 213 Wh mi there s nothing wrong with it s efficiency (probably). Things like A C usage while the car is on are taken into account here. In fact I believe it s tracking everything out of the battery while the car is on. I see what you re saying about missing kWh though it does seem like something s off since for my Model X the numbers usually work out when I do the same calcs. Though I don t have a Model 3 so I can t speak to whether this is normal. For your 248.8 mile drive is this all in one sitting or over some period of time? Only reason I ask is I don t believe the car factors in vampire drain while it is off. So for instance if your car loses 10 miles of range every night and this 248.8 miles was driven over 5-days or something it would explain the mystery losses. If it is all in one drive though I m at a loss to explain the missing kWh. Maybe the car s incorrectly showing you better efficiency numbers than it s really getting or maybe there is really something wrong with your battery. | 2018-10-25 02:48:59 | 9 | Tesla Supercharger Road Trips | 8,886 |
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