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My speculation for battery day
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Writing this as a tesla investor. At battery day in September tesla will announce some kind of breakthrough in battery technology possibly solid state batteries at an extremely competitive price. If this is the case there will be huge implications on their vehicles but it is not what I m most curious about. What other implications will that have on the worlds transition to sustainable energy? We already know that tesla is balancing the grid in Australia with their batteries and that tesla is about to become an utility company in UK. We also know that elon thinks the energy part is expected to be at least as important for tesla as their vehicles. The world is installing more and more renewable energy from wind and solar. This is great though it comes with a backside: intermittent production and highly shifting electricity prices (for instance Denmark with a lot of wind power frequently sees negative electricity prices on windy days in the summertime and huge price spikes on calm cold winter days) There is a great need to expand the electricity grid to transfer the intermittent electricity from where it is produced to the consumer. To mitigate the need for investment in the grid and even out the prices throughout the day and the year powerpacks along the backbone electricity grid could be used. My speculation is that Tesla is about to provide the final piece to the puzzle on battery day: cheaper and bigger batteries to balance the grid. The location of these packs could be anywhere along the grid where land is cheap. The obvious producer of the energy will be tesla customers from their solar roofs. The obvious consumer will be tesla owners at the supercharger stations. (Along with everybody else connected to the grid I.e the highest bidder) The economic in this infrastructure comes from the auto bidder software. The arbitrage between low and peak hours combined with the fixed income from the supercharger stations makes it possible for tesla to guarantee the potential solar roof customers a fixed income hence boosting the sales of solar installations at all markets where tesla is present. I guess this is right in line with Elons mission to boost the transition to sustainable energy. All other technology is in place already and with huge cheap batteries to balance the grid and auto bidder software the payback time for these investments will be a lot shorter than before. Another market for tesla to disrupt. Your thoughts?
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2020-07-28 14:56:56
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I suspect they aren t going to announce solid-state batteries. Rather I think they will announce: - They ve begun (or will soon begin) producing their own battery cells - These cells will use unique chemistry providing higher energy density and longer usable life while being less expensive and greener to produce - These cells will first appear in some lower-volume products (CT Semi roadster maybe S X) but eventually will be scaled up for future versions of mainstream vehicles (3 Y). It s possible the first shipping vehicle to use this could be a new higher tier Model S variant.
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2020-07-28 15:08:52
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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Cab drivers: what does Tesla need to make a car that can dominate your market?
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Mileage price...
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2014-05-17 09:44:32
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The base spec black cabs in London are around £32k $54k USD from what this article from The Telegraph says the average millage is 200 day. http: www.london-taxis.co.uk jsp index.jsp?lnk=710& id=60 MPG is around 30mpg and of course stop start driving isn t helping. This is around £22 100miles. Electricity is about £2.20 100miles. I guess a similar car in size shape with a price of £50k would make this relatively cost neutral (without doing the detailed match). If this is in a limited company there s additional benefits of offsetting of tax that can make further benefit. I have been looking at the maths for my current Landrover v s Model S - a £70-80k Tesla has a better NPV than my current car starting from today.
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2014-05-17 13:09:20
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Submit your infotainment complaints to NHTSA
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Hello everyone. I wanted to bring up something that I think tesla is being sneaky about. About a week ago we all got emails regarding a potential infotainment screen replacement regarding the memory card. For the past year I ve been suffering for non-booting freezing scrambled screen etc... So I figured I d be a perfect candidate for the replacement. I scheduled a service call for the issue and tesla said they ran diagnostics on my car and it is determined that my infotainment screen is not affected or has any problems. I ve sent them multiple videos and photos showing them a variety of issues and they won t replace it. I believe that they are trying to avoid a mandatory recall by saying that they will replace problematic screens but are dodging the actual replacement once they say they run diagnostics. Since we are not privy to the diagnostics or the reports we don t know if it s actually correct or a lie. If any of you are having infotainment issues please go to the NHTSA website and let s have tesla be held accountable for their actions. This kind of behavior shouldn t be tolerated from the most valuable car company in the world. **Keep in mind only 11 complaints have been submitted and Tesla has already started adjusting and sent out that email. Imagine the impact we could make if we all submitted our complaints. I took me under 5 minutes to submit my complaint. Your complaint can go a long way and potentially help thousands of people avoid having to pay for a replacement infotainment screen in the next few years.** https: www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov VehicleComplaint ?
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2020-11-15 14:38:00
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[NHTSA has already opened a preliminary evaluation ](https: www.engadget.com nhtsa-tesla-model-s-touchscreen-failures-175509876.html) into the MCU failures because the failure makes the rear backup camera inoperable and is considered a safety issue. Don t know what the outcome of that investigation was or if there was one yet.
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2020-11-15 16:34:48
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Daily Q& A Discussion and Support Thread - July 23
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If you are new here (or even if you re not) please skim through our [Rules](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki rules) to get more familiarity on potential updates or changes and what to expect. Use this recurring thread for basic Q& A vehicle assistance today s topics sightings customization shop item discussions etc. **If you are a new owner and want to share your experiences look for our recurring Monday [New Delivery Owner](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search ?q=%22New+Delivery+and+Owners+Thread%22& include_over_18=on& restrict_sr=on& sort=new) threads.** **Have a curiosity or concern?** - [Displayed Rated Range](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments epy1uh daily_discussion_support_thread_january_17 fenj4n8) | [Tesla Support](https: www.tesla.com support) | [Winter Driving](https: www.tesla.com support winter-driving-tips) | [Software Updates + Megathreads](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates) **Useful sites for vehicle management software tracking trip planning and more** - [Teslascope](https: teslascope.com software) | [TeslaFi](https: teslafi.com firmware ) | [EV-FW](http: ev-fw.com track-reports.php) | [Teslabout](https: teslabout.com firmware) | [Useful Sites Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki usefulsites) **Vehicle Manuals - U.S.** - [Model S](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_s_owners_manual_north_america_en_us.pdf) | [Model 3](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_3_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) | [Model X](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_x_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) | [Model Y](https: www.tesla.com sites default files model_y_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) - **NEW - [Model 3 Video Manuals](https: www.youtube.com c TeslaManuals videos)** **Resources:** - [Rules](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki rules) - [Gigathread](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments cdxuwh gigathread_of_resources ) - Recent Highlights and Links - [Popular Accessories](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki accessories) - r AutoDetailing - Cleaning detailing tips - [Discord Live Chat](https: discord.gg 7WuEqAW) - [Subreddit Wiki](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki index) - [Tesla Vehicle History Comparisons](https: docs.google.com spreadsheets d 1Rv464J1RsXNBNddy008IPsQfVrO4kHPh_L4HWKpG4bo edit#gid=0) - Print your own [Shareable Card](https: drive.google.com drive folders 1URFRBNFIcuhpKr_fgtPaYXVc83m7EHQs?usp=sharing) by u backstreetatnight and u 110110 **Please be kind** [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. If you want to share a photo you can easily create an image post on Imgur and include it in your comment. Find past discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all).
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2020-07-23 09:12:03
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I just wanted to let anyone who is looking into information about Used Teslas. I went for a test drive of the Model Y and asked them about a used model X. They showed me their inventory site and found a Model X 2019 (white interior exterior six seats) for $70 000. I was stunned because I watch online for used model Xs and the cheapest I found with the config I wanted was $71 600 for a 2018. So if you are interested in getting a Used Tesla for a good price please make sure to get yourself into a Tesla Store and ask the employees there for help. They have been more than willing to help me find a good priced Tesla Model X!
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2020-07-23 15:05:03
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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What does the new Power Wall 2.0 energy density mean for the future of Tesla Automobiles?
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The title pretty much sums it up. I am currently a computer engineering major so most Tesla releases and tech I can understand. But I have no experience in batteries. Did the power wall tech finally catch up with the tech in Tesla cars or did the power wall just surpass the cars. And if the power wall surpassed the cars does this mean we should expect even further range in the cars in the future?
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2016-10-31 14:59:44
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What I noticed *I think* is that they increased the number of modules inside of a powerpack which I believe increased by 3? Along with the new 2170 batteries. So all of those factors combined (if true) may have reached 2x density . Edit - So powerwall decreased in external size but what about the modules themselves?
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2016-10-31 15:04:49
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Should I buy Model X now or should I wait?
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If I order a Model X today would I get the hardware for Autopilot 2.0 and other cool features or should I wait until their next announcement and see what new features there are?
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2016-08-21 09:44:17
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How important is this to YOU? Me if I had that kind of money I would wait. I would wait for 100kWh battery and gamble for AP2.0 being possible to retrofit. But that is me you just need to know what is you in this equation. Close your eyes and feel really feel what you really want.
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2016-08-21 09:47:51
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Model 3 SR+ vs LR
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Dear Tesla Owners. I am looking into buying a new Tesla Model 3. The difference in ranges does not seem to be a big issue between the SR+ and LR for me. Obviously yes the LR has a faster 0-60 acceleration but not the biggest deal breaker. However I do see interior differences between the 2. While the SR+ has a partial premium interior lacking in a subwoofer and 2 amps the LR has a full premium with better audio and and rear heated seats( not my biggest worry). For me audio and sound is a BIGG thing however. How much better is the audio for the full premium vs the partial premium? Is the 9K cost to upgrade to LR worth it?
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2020-03-04 05:00:15
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I originally wanted to convince myself to get the SR+ and could do it ... except when I heard the audio differences. I played the same song in both cars and the SR+ didn t come close in my opinion. I ended up getting a used LR RWD. I recommend going to a Tesla dealership where you can do test drives and ask if you could test out both. That s the only way to figure out if you are ok with SR+
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2020-03-04 05:07:41
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Tesla sound system comparisons
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Unpopular Opinion - the Model 3 looks better with a front license plate.
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I hate to admit it and ironically I haven t installed my front plate yet but I think the front end of the Model 3 looks better with a front plate. I think it s either because it helps complete the look of the front end or helps mask the fact that it looks incomplete to begin with. Not sure. But I think it looks better. Anyone else feel this way? Downvote into oblivion?
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2019-11-11 15:20:04
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I won t downvote you. I respectfully disagree.
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2019-11-11 15:23:07
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Motors coming to Mauritius
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A Tesla showroom will open in northern Mauritius. The American car brand Tesla will be imported to Mauritius. A showroom will open its doors in Forbach (https: goo.gl maps Sn1HjbxdsUE2). You may have already crossed it in Mauritius a Tesla Model S is indeed on our roads. The company EV-Cars will soon import other second-hand copies of the American brand of premium electric cars. Berth Milton is the owner of the first copy and director of EV-Cars. This Swedish businessman explains that at first only the Model S will be available in Mauritius. The launch of the brand and this car will be held at the beginning of 2017. Berth Milton announces that a Tesla showroom will open its doors in the North of Mauritius. The importer explains that it will then be possible to buy a Model S second-hand in stock or order one copy. There is a market in Mauritius for this car. There is already a demand and it will be difficult for us to respond fully. There will be more demands than offers says Milton. The Tesla Model S is an electric car. Our test model the P85 + has a motor developing 85 Kilowatt hour (kWh) which corresponds to 421 horsepower on a heat engine. Tesla announces a range of 400 kilometers. Nevertheless in real conditions or with dynamic driving the autonomy is less but sufficient for the Mauritian roads and a daily use according to Berth Milton. Charging is done through a conventional plug. The battery then recovers 55 kilometers of autonomy per hour of recharge. In addition the importer plans to install some super chargers across the country. They allow up to 80% recharge in about 30 minutes. Currently Tesla offers free refill through these facilities in the markets where the brand is present. Nevertheless the American brand announced that these refills will soon pay off. The price of the Tesla Model S in Mauritius is still unknown. Nevertheless it is a high-end car whose prices for new cars abroad start at about USD 60 000 or Rs 2.13 million and reach about USD 100 000 or Rs 3.55 Million for the P85 + version. As a reminder since 1 November 2016 excise duties on electric cars have been abolished. Nevertheless transport costs the margin of the importer and Value Added Tax (VAT) will have to be added.
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2016-11-16 14:54:54
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Sounds like they are second hand cars being imported by a dealership. I wonder what this means for repairs and warranty?
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2016-11-16 15:37:00
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Silly question but: Tesla Model S Car Rentals?
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My Birthday is coming up next month and I wanted to spend 2 days driving the car. I didnt know if this was a thing or not. And no I am not close to be able to buy one. I am near King of Prussia PA if that matters.
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2016-08-24 00:32:29
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You ll want to use search for r teslamotors for more info but the short answer is turo and filter by manufacture.
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2016-08-24 00:39:04
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Model 3 test-drive first impressions
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A new service center opened up in my area and they started doing test drives so I signed up for one. My lease on my Acura is up in a month and the M3 LR-AWD is on my short list for my next car. Having a service center in my town is great as I would previously have to drive an hour to King of Prussia PA. First off the experience at the shop was great. It was one guy who i guess is heading up this new office. He blocked off an hour for me gave me a tour of the shop and let me spend like 45 minutes in the car itself. So this itself was a winner for tesla as I ve never had such personal attention at any car dealership before. Once we got driving I was immediately impressed. Like others I ve watched hundreds of Tesla videos online but I hadn t driven one myself. The acceleration on this thing is just bonkers. I think Joe Rogan put it the best when he said it feels like you re in alien technology pushing through a wormhole . Just absolutely wild and you can t help but smile.There is a ton of tech in the car but if you re good with tech already you ll pick up on this stuff really quickly. One the thing that I was surprised by was the sheer weight of the car. In pictures and videos the car looks small and light. Though when you re driving it it s very heavily weighted to the ground (i assume from the battery) and the steering is tight so you really feel like you re driving something with some weight to it (which is good). The actual driving dynamics of the car were so much better than i expected. We tried auto-pilot on the highway which was incredible. Again i ve seen countless videos but experiencing it is wild. Just feels like the future. Though i wish so many of the cool features were locked behind the FSD package (lane changing while on autopilot etc). Sound system was top-tier the surround sound feature was cool (though it makes certain music genres sound weird. If you have a pair of gaming headphones with that artificial surround sound you ll know what I mean). My one complaint about the audio was that you can t get SiriusXM in a Tesla. He showed me the built-in Pandora-like system but it was having trouble loading and seemed less than ideal. Overall was a fantastic experience. and driving my own car home really sucked. Tesla s really do make other cars feel dumb. Thanks for reading.
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2019-08-26 13:01:53
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Imagine what it is like driving every day - Rogan s alien technology is an understatement. My morning routine - walk into garage car already charged to about 75% overnight. Trunk and doors unlock as soon as a I touch the trunk throw my bag in the back and unplug the car. Hopping into the drivers seat I m listening to BBC Radio 2 afternoon show for my breakfast - yeah slacker isn t all bad. Music turns up as the drivers door closes. Hit the garage-link button on the screen door slides up we slip silently into drive and out we go hit the garage-link again we re rolling. In the burbs we one-pedal drive - car does exactly the speed you tell it too speed bumps - foot off the pedal down to 15mph straight back to 25mph. Effortlessly cruise up the hill to the freeway only needing the brakes for the 4-way stop and the traffic lights. On-ramp is my morning wakeup - a sharp left hand from NE40th onto SR520. Roll to a stop and put her into hold next to me a noisy wasp Golf GTI. Quick squirt of juice and we are nursing understeer in the corner - she is powerful and heavy. Freeway comes into sight and I open her up - howling like a jet spinning up - relentlessly pushing us past 70mph and the bus stop of on-lookers I should ease off. Look in the rear-view GTI has just barely made the turn. Joining the freeway I flip her into AP at 68mph and exhale. We navigate 520 405 90 5 every day using AP on the 520 and 90 legs. Joining the 405 I retake control hanging back for room to maneuver. She pops out from merging traffic to mainstream 60mph with just a little squeeze of power. AP deals with the daily grind of traffic for me especially as it slows for the Mercer Island and Mount Baker tunnels. I take over again to enjoy the performance as traffic merges for Madison St exit. See the slot in the traffic ahead accelerate take the space. Downtown she transitions from taut muscular racer back to elegant silent and submissive. Slip into our city parking - camera and sensors enables me to dial her right into our normal spot. Get out grab my bag and walk away. She winks and locks down to await my return. Can t wait to head home in her... \*edit: grammar punc.
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2019-08-26 15:40:31
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Regen Vs Coasting?
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I ve recently heard a lot about regen and it not needing the brakes to be pressed down in order to stop. How does it feel verses coasting? I personally love coasting when I am coming to stops. Is is possible to just coast and let it roll to a gradual stop?
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2014-12-15 07:45:04
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Regen gradually slows down the car but not to a complete stop. You need to use the brake for the last few feet. As you approach the intersection you gradually let off the accelerator pedal and the vehicle will coast slow down to a stop. If you master the art of regen braking you can come to a really smooth stop and only use the brake to completely stop keep the car still. It s very intuitive and becomes second nature.
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2014-12-15 09:27:28
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Interesting experience with ACH and delayed delivery
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**TL DR: Telsa considers the car paid when ACH verifies funds but may not actually execute it until close to time of delivery (which may be weeks later).** Had an interesting (and briefly concerning) experience with ACH for a Tesla purchase that I haven t seen described so far online. Sharing for Internet posterity. **9 17** I get a notification for delivery of my new Model 3 and offered **9 23** pickup. VIN displays on website. **9 20** Electronic payment for cash pay-off opens. I pay by ACH EFT with my bank info. Get a * Thank you for your payment *email. **9 21** Get a call that my appointment has been delayed rescheduled to **10 13**. VIN disappears from website. Website still shows me as paid. Here s where it got interesting. I show up on 10 13 but the money is still in my bank account! I inform the delivery advisor about this who goes back and checks. Our records indicate that you paid on 9 21. Surely this is a mistake - I know ACH is slow but on the order of days not weeks. But every record available at the dealership says zero balance so there s nothing they can really do. And I m not about to walk away from a paid-off dream car so I accept delivery. Come Monday morning (10 15) money is still in my account. I call Tesla wait on hold forever... but same answer - ACH went through 9 21. Support is unwilling to admit that I have a free Tesla but have no means to follow up. Finally I get hold of my bank (required a specialist to contact me). Tesla had verified funds on 9 21 but not actually executed the transaction until 10 11. Add three business days of lag to that and you re past delivery date. The money comes out of my account later that day. Maybe I m just paranoid but this worried me for a few days until it was resolved so figured I d share.
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2018-10-24 23:47:00
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I don t know why you were worried. You got the car the rest is their problem.
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2018-10-25 00:01:30
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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Anyone else have problems accidentally closing all doors with accidental car remote button press?
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Done this twice so far wife wasn t happy when I smacked her while she was loading kids in car seat. I had to turn off the feature today
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2017-12-22 15:19:51
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Can t say that I have this problem. But I also can t say that I have a Model X.
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2017-12-22 15:22:23
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Model 3 phone key issues
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Telsa should set up a facility on Mare Island in Vallejo.
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I was walking the waterfront in vallejo thinking about a way to revitalize mare island. It is well suited to serve Tesla. Heavy industrial zoning potential worker housing water access to fremont... vallejo is so desperate for someone to take care of mare island I imagine Tesla could get some space on the cheap.
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2014-03-08 19:18:24
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Yes except that the cost of doing anything in Vallejo is absolutly insane. The city has such a need for cash that they have scaled back their employees to the point where its almost impossible to get anything done while increasing fees to point where locals and businesses are abandoning ship. Sadly the city of Vallejo is a business toxic cesspool. I d love for the city to be revitalized but they need to push a giant reset button on their finances before any large business will take them seriously.
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2014-03-08 20:05:20
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Napa?
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I ve seen a unusual amounts of tesla s heading towards Napa. I ve seen seen about 20-25 cars within a hour and half. Do y all now what s up? Most of the time I see less than 10 tesla s per day and10 is pushing it for me
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2016-07-16 01:29:48
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Napa Supercharger opened last week and those Napa grapes are good.
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2016-07-16 02:34:47
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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2017.50 Software Update Megathread
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2017.50 started rollout on December 16 2017. - Release notes? - What s new? - What s different? - How s the autopilot? NOTE: As of 2017.50.3 AP2 cars get rain sensing wipers.
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2017-12-17 00:25:29
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Change seems to be that the easy entry exit seating position is now triggered by undoing the seatbelt not just putting the car in park
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2017-12-17 00:27:15
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Tesla Software Updates Overview
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Accident on the 91 FWY
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Hello Tesla drivers On my way into work I witnessed an accident involving a Tesla on the 91 FWY. I continued to drive down the freeway for several miles to see if they were going to pull over but it seemed like the sedan causing the accident with the Tesla was unwilling to stop and the Tesla was following the other vehicle involved. I m unaware of the technology that your vehicle may have to assist with the proving of not being at fault but if you need my assistance feel free to message me. Edit: I left the state and city out for now but include that in the message to confirm you were involved.
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2019-07-08 21:21:10
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You could contact CHP directly.
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2019-07-08 21:40:18
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Model Y 7 seat pictures here
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credit rob of tesla daily @ [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=1bV99C64e8w& ab\_channel=TeslaDaily](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=1bV99C64e8w& ab_channel=TeslaDaily) https: preview.redd.it t0uyn7pta1a61.png?width=1265& format=png& auto=webp& s=cbe57321c2aba6c88edd292aaa14024d1fd95832 & #x200B  https: preview.redd.it vqdxidd1b1a61.png?width=851& format=png& auto=webp& s=3440528328d2737a59892627903e1b9b4d5fefcb & #x200B https: preview.redd.it kiwc0il4b1a61.png?width=919& format=png& auto=webp& s=2fd0be62f676e29cd50d3dae701141640c9d4fdd 📷📷📷📷📷📷📷 📷7:21 14:20•7-seat interior photos
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2021-01-08 04:16:38
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Very cool design given the limited space. I originally thought they would face backwards or something due to space. The headrests also look like pretty good quality.
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2021-01-08 04:25:59
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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[Discussion] How many of you ordered FSD with your Model 3?
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And what made you add it now other than the price difference to add later?
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2018-07-07 23:08:29
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I didn t. On principle I refuse to pay for something that doesn t exist.
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2018-07-08 00:07:08
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Getting MCU2 on my Tesla
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Hello everyone. I bought FSD back when Elon Musk announced it for 2k. I made an appointment via mobile app for my HW3 ( just to see if I would even get it) and they confirmed my VIN was ready. Paperwork however is showing only MCU2 update and not the HW3 chip. Is this normal? I mentioned it to the service center and they stated some vehicles are getting both upgrades. My car won t be ready till tomorrow however. Should I bring it to The Tesla Team tomorrow again? EDIT Car is a 2017 HW2.0 MCU1 EDIT 2: FOLLOW UP see comments
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2020-04-20 21:58:21
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MCU2 is the $2500 Infotainment upgrade: https: www.tesla.com support infotainment HW3 is the FSD Computer: https: www.tesla.com support full-self-driving-computer The only person who got their HW2.0 upgraded to HW3.0 was the person in Hawaii who also paid for the Infotainment Upgrade (MCU1 -> MCU2). According to the Tesla s website it seems to indicate that HW2.0-> HW3.0 retrofits are being tied in with MCU1-> MCU2 retrofits for the initial wave but it wasn t supposed to start until late April . Please let us know what they end up doing! I m waiting to get both retrofits for my HW2.0 vehicle but I m not sure if it s worth waiting to see if there s a tiny possibility that they will allow us to replace Tuner2 at the same time as the MCU2 upgrade (we lose FM radio capability as it currently stands in the upgrade).
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2020-04-20 23:17:16
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Autopilot Restrictions in 7.1
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How do we feel about the new 5 mph over the posted limit restriction on certain roads? On one hand it s annoying when there s a center divider that AP doesn t recognize like a turn lane. But far outweighing that is the overlooked convenience factor. If I had TACC AP set to 70 mph on the highway then I go to re-engage it this limitation also helps keep me from accidentally reengaging at 70 mph on the wrong kind of road. I like that a whole lot. I suppose technically it s a restriction but it s mostly a non-issue. I d like it to allow +10 mph instead of +5 but that s just my opinion. What do you guys think?
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2016-01-11 20:45:26
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Autopilot isn t supposed to be used on roads like that at all. That they merely restrict it to a perfectly reasonable speed instead of prohibiting it altogether is very nice.
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2016-01-12 00:25:28
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Release Date for New Tesla Lifestyle Goods? (link in description)
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regarding this article (http: www.teslarati.com tesla-branded-lifestyle-goods-recycled-leather ) Does anyone have any insight to when these products will be available? Just got an new iPhone and really want to buy the new Tesla leather case :)
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2014-11-01 01:59:28
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Can t answer your question but thanks for helping me think about what I want on my Christmas list! From TFA: > We were told from an employee at the event that the new line of Tesla branded lifestyle goods will be hitting the Tesla online store ‘very soon and likely just in time for the holiday shopping season to begin.
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2014-11-01 11:07:44
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Dash cam
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I have a flash drive inserted in USB and I have seen the Sentry mode events recorded which are basically automatic. How does the dash-cam function works? For example if I met an accident in an unfortunate scenario how would I make sure that the video recording before and after scene is stored in the flash drive for any insurance proof? If anyone knows the steps please let me know. Thank you :)
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2019-10-16 22:29:31
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RTFM. (It s in the dashcam section) The tip I would give is to wait about a minute or two after the crash to save the footage to minimize any losses. And stop recording before you pull the usb out.
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2019-10-16 22:32:15
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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Tesla should follow Dominoes Tracker lead on ordering.
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My husband made this and it accurately describes what we are going through right now. https: imgur.com znyeYO5
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2017-09-02 15:08:26
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Once you actually place an order you get something just like that (or did a year ago). The issue is that their backend is really bad and it doesn t tell you anything useful because it just sits sits and sits and then they call you telling you your car is ready.
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2017-09-02 16:10:29
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Some questions about pre-ordering the new Model 3
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So I am a lifelong Tesla fan. And now that I ve got myself a steady job I m seriously considering pre-ordering this beauty. I know it may be a splurge but the opportunity to have my dream car (maker) is too much. Here s my questions though. I make about 3400 after taxes a month. I m getting a 7% raise at the end of this year. However I do live in PA so tax incentives! Is this a stupid decision? I have charging stations at work and at my apartment so those aren t issues. And based on other cars at similar prices it should be around under $500 month. But I m afraid I m blinded by... Well Tesla. Also let s say I pre-order it but before I receive it my current car bites the dust and I have to resort to another. Can I get any money I ve put towards it back? Or am I sol? I planned to put the 1k down and keep adding until mine is produced. But if I d be out that money then no way. I can t guarantee my car is making it until end of 2018. Finally do we have any confirmation for what the packages will cost? For example 3k for the autopilot software seems fine to me and I spent a lot of weekends on the turnpike so it would be worth the investment. I haven t seen news for other charges. Last question and this is more an EV question - what happens if I break down nowhere near a charging station? I ve always wondered that and figured I d tag that question on. Thanks for any insight!
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2017-06-19 15:22:48
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Is this a stupid decision? It s your money but let s do some quick napkin math. Reality check 3400*12 = $40 800 The cheapest model 3 with tax title delivery charges = $37 750 (and this is a low estimate) Even with the full $7500 federal tax incentives = $30 250 That s 74% of your yearly after tax income. I would highly recommend go with a used car between 4-8K instead of spending 30K+ on your dream car (maker) .
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2017-06-19 16:03:56
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Bjørn s taken delivery of his Blue Model X P90DL today
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Update: Delivery and walk around video: https: youtu.be YiZjUIvT1uI Original post: Seems to be a Founder s edition. Apparently there s a 50% tax on the car. (Edit: Yes Norway has EV incentives but this is income tax since the car is a gift.) https: www.youtube.com watch?v=FmJLyGdQeNQ (he has a series of live streams on his channel because they kept cutting off) Twitter https: twitter.com BjornNyland status 755809574268112896
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2016-07-20 16:08:27
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50% tax on gifts???? Sheeeeeeiiittt....
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2016-07-20 17:44:28
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Tesla Model Y Purchase Consideration
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PSA: If you re getting a Model 3 and have kids in booster seats that use the car s seatbelt and buckle get a seatbelt extender.
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The receptacles are so recessed into the cushion that a booster seat can cover it or come so close as to make it impossible for your kid to reach down and buckle in. The natural centering of a typical booster on the seat cushion will actually cover the buckle. Just ordered a 3” rigid extended online. Should do the trick. Went with a place called Seat Belt Extender Pros (no affiliation) because they seem to custom fit your car. This is a seat belt buckle after all—a safety item. Not sure I want some “universal” fit one on Amazon.
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2018-07-29 22:06:48
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Fully agree with the OP. I had the same issue and same solution. A few other notes... * 3 rigid works great because they can stay inserted even when you take out the booster for an adult (it isn t gaudy big) * By plugging in the extender the seat-belt warning in the back is turned off . So always check with the kids to see their status * Front and back seats of the Model 3 use different extenders. Model 3 and Model S use different extenders (Model S will fit front of model 3 but not back). Front extender could be helpful for those with accessibility issues. * When ordering select Second Row Window to get the ones that work for those seats. * There is not a common model number design ID or other indicator to help you cross-shop or verify you are buying the right thing or to buy used. A racket if you ask me. * Often you see seat-belt extenders advertised based on the Length Width Size of the hole on the protruding metal part. However the difference of front to back in the model 3 is based on the internal plug measurements (which you cannot see or measure). * They are sometimes difficult to plug in and frustrating to the kids. I would say they plug in the first time like 60% of the time. The other times you are fiddling shaking etc for an extra 3 seconds. [Here is a photo album comparing the Model 3 extender to the Model S extender](https: imgur.com a eSXu6WI). I purchased the Model S one first because the measurements all looked good and it was much cheaper. But that didn t work out so now i have an extra set. Let me know if you want it and are in central Ohio.
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2018-07-30 12:19:34
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Model 3 Seat Impressions
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Favor Request! I need a copy of the Model S 7.0 manual for science.
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If you have access to mytesla and would be willing to email me a pdf copy of the manual please PM me! Edit: Thanks I had a feeling this would work! :)
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2015-11-04 21:20:00
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https: my.teslamotors.com sites default files blog_attachments model_s_owners_manual_touchscreen_7.0_das_ap_na_r20151028_en_us.pdf
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2015-11-05 00:12:48
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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A very interesting experience with Tesla Motors...
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So I am a huge fan of Tesla and I always check their website to customize the Model S as a hobby although as a student I cannot afford the car. Last week I was playing around with the car customizer and I proceeded to the order page where I provide the contact information. I filled in the info including my phone number but I didn t press the order button. I also have never applied for a test drive. Today I received a call and I was kinda shocked to learn it was actually the Tesla store. They wanted to know if I was interested in a test drive of the car. I said that I would be very happy to do so but that I do not have a driver s license in Germany. Then they even offered me to have a Tesla sales person drive me around for the test drive. So I gladly accepted and I will be driving the Tesla Model S in August for half an hour! (in the passenger seat of course.) Although I am not sure how they got my phone number when I didn t go through with the purchase in the order page (probably through some sort of registering info when it is being inserted) I am very glad to be contacted by them. I will be taking a couple of friends as well to the test drive and I am sure they will also fall in love with the car.
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2014-06-23 17:01:52
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While filling out the order page the page may already send the contents to the backend server informing the sales people of a very interested possible sale. This is quite common in the web recently there was a study on how often people do fill in stuff and then do not send it. Or do slight changes. (The study was about facebook doing the exact same thing. And people seem to often type out quite a lot of swearwords and then selfcensor it before submitting it) Personally I do view it as a breach of privacy as you would not expect these information being available to the server company behind the server. By student you mean Schüler (highschool attendant) as opposed to Student (university attendant) I d assume?
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2014-06-23 17:18:56
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Tesla test drive experiences
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Home Charging Help
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Hi everyone. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the optimal home charging set up is for Model 3? Is it a 240 volt NEMA 14-50 outlet? Also does the Model 3 come with the needed charging equipment to work with that outlet or would I need to purchase that separately?
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2018-05-13 18:50:51
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Depends on your definition of optimal. Yes Model 3 does come with a charger that works with a NEMA 14-50 outlet. But the mobile charger can only do 32 amps and that outlet can do 40. The car itself can do 48 amps so the fastest home charging setup would be to use a 60 amp breaker (that allows for 48 amp continuous current draw) and connect that to a hardwired Tesla Wall Charger (so NOT a NEMA 14-50 outlet but a hardwired charger).
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2018-05-13 18:59:08
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Why we are returning a car that we love from a brand we deeply respect
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Last year we reserved a M3 Performance to be delivered to Portugal. This was a company decision based on several key factor like running costs taxes and this might seem atypical in some places but we also factored in employee happiness in our decision process. The idea was to start with one and in the coming years slowly extend to the rest of the company. With all the rumble on the news about production quality and “tweets” we also discussed the risk of this purchase. Our conclusion from talking with owners Reddit Clubs forums etc was that there were recurring issues in the car (paint gaps etc) and in the delivery process but none of them were functional and the most important message from everyone was that Tesla always took responsibility to make everything right and the customer happy. & #x200B I have to say that Tesla return policy also gave our management the peace of mind to invest the more than $80.000 the car costs around here but the true risk mitigation was owner feedback on Tesla customer care and service. Where I work for more than 13 years a big part of our success is the same service strategy: everyone knows that problems and incidents happen what is important is how the company deals with them. & #x200B In late December we were finally able to make the configuration and place the order arrival was estimated for the end of February beginning of March. Between SMS mails and phone calls the delivery was scheduled and postponed more than 12 times but we took delivery in the Prior Velho Delivery Center Monday 9th of April. & #x200B As expected several issues were reported on delivery ranging from lack of Type 2 cable no spoiler paint problems gaps. Coming from other car brands where much of this would be unacceptable it s strange to write that we all felt that the delivery chaos and reported car issues were perceived as “normal”. But nothing had prepared us for what we would discover in the next few days. & #x200B The first time we drove the car from the Delivery Center to our HQ the driver reported that he felt a bit nauseated. For those who wear prescription glasses he explained it like the felling we get for a few days when we change prescriptions. We dismissed it as the excitement and maybe the effect of the usual acceleration runs everyone does when they get a new Tesla 😊. & #x200B The problem persisted during the next few days with 3 different people reporting the problem. The weekend came and I took the car for a longer trip on Sunday decided to find out what was going on. Everything seemed normal in our underground parking but after a few moments outside I started getting the same feeling like motion sickness. After an hour driving I had an headache. I stopped the car and while looking to the same outside objects I tried changing my point of view from the driver seat. I was amazed to see that as I changed my point of view the outside objects got slightly deformed: the problem had been discovered the windshield was deformed right in front of the driver seat causing the nausea and headaches. & #x200B After careful inspection the ceiling glass was also bent out on the sides and the rear glass also had shape sifting problems on some areas. As Monday came I immediately called Tesla to talk about the problem. I have never seen this kind of situation in my 20 years as a driver and because this was the last day of the return policy window the operator asked me to immediately go to the Delivery Center. & #x200B The customer care on the Prior Velho Delivery Center was surreal to say the least. There were no managers or coordinator available one of the few people on site a rookie delivery specialist tried reaching out to someone but it seemed that no one was available or replied to his several phone calls. He then decided to inspect the car himself and after confirming the problem asked me not to return the car until someone from management reached us out and tried to find a solution together. & #x200B We were very uncomfortable with the total lack of management on site or even on call and the nervousness and disorientation of the few employees around was odd. Because of that we only agreed to delay the return after the delivery specialist sent us an official email to prove we were on the Delivery Center on that Monday afternoon. & #x200B The rest of Monday went by without any callback from the Delivery Center management as did Tuesday. On Wednesday we insisted by mail and later that day we received a call from a private number from the same specialist that inspected the car saying that he still hadn t be able to reach anyone. Late Thursday he called again also from a private number with a cryptic message: the answer was negative and that we should return the car on Monday because Easter holiday Friday. & #x200B We are completely stunned is this Tesla customer care? We have a car that literally makes people sick and no one seems to bother. We will be returning an 80k product and management is no where to be seen. Throughout this week no one except the rookie specialist tried to find a solution and even him had difficulty reaching anyone for days. We didn t receive any contacts from anyone with any kind of authority or responsibility in Tesla if not to solve the problem at least to apologize. & #x200B Let s be clear the car is superb as an engineering company we understand and have the utmost respect for the complexity of the product Tesla created in such a short time and with such an impact on everyone s life. In the end we will return the car because we can t be dependent on a company where management disappears and deals with problems in a completely irresponsible way. The trust relationship is broken and there is no product on earth that can survive that. & #x200B & #x200B We already got some support and European Tesla contacts from club forum members but what is Reddit community experience with Tesla Delivery Centers management when problems happen? Is our situation specific to Portugal? Is this the fall-out from the sales reorganization firings? How do you scale these issues when the management layer is MIA and even the few employees seem afraid to do or say anything?
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2019-04-22 16:30:36
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Return it or get the glass replaced. I don t see a problem that can t be resolved. TL DR... glass is distorted causing headaches. Tesla service not meeting expectations.
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2019-04-22 17:14:46
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Tesla Service Experience Feedback
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really loud high pitch squeak from right axle?
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really loud high pitch squeak from right axle? anyone ever encountered this? what was the fix? & #x200B we thought it was maybe something stuck in the brake pad rotor but it doesn t seem to be and it doesn t seem to even relate to using not using the brakes. & #x200B the sound only stops if we steer right or left but otherwise it s so loud that people nearby stare ... so I m kinda thinking the car is not drivable until fixed? Next appointment w tesla is a miserable two weeks out.
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2020-11-09 19:07:47
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control arm - should be covered by warranty
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2020-11-09 19:24:10
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Tesla Noise Concerns
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Quick question about insurance.
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I asked my insurance dude about how much it would be for the Model S. He didn t know it existed so I didn t get an answer. What are y all paying for it if you don t mind me asking?
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2015-01-31 17:36:00
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This question gets asked here all the time. And every time we tell the asker that it s irrelevant what other people are paying. Your insurance rate is highly dependent on: 1. Your age 2. Your gender 3. Your location 4. Your coverage 5. Your education 6. Your car s value 7. Your credit history 8. Your marital status 9. Your driving history 10. Your insurance provider Forget your current insurance provider. Go to any of the major insurance websites and get a quote for yourself. One guy here could be paying $1500 a year. It might only cost you $600. Or maybe you ve wrecked two cars still haven t hit your 20th birthday and it s going to cost you $2500. *Edit: added more variables as I thought of them.
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2015-01-31 17:50:56
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Tesla insurance pricing comparison
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Tesla Vision vs. Radar
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Today I took delivery of a 2021 Model Y with no radar (VIN 196xxx s w version 2021.3.102.6) I also own a 2018 Model 3 with radar (VIN 059xxx s w version 2021.4.18 50k miles) Given all of the fuss over removing radar I decided to run some tests (I m a software engineer working in the autonomous vehicle sector so I can t help myself). I drove a 30 mile loop that consisted of highway and surface streets with both dense and sparse traffic. Weather was sunny with no clouds shadows were sharp. Autopilot performance between the two vehicles was about the same. My impression is that Autopilot is a bit more tentative in the Y (no radar) compared to the 3. It slows down sooner when approaching a stopped car leaves more space between cars and hesitates more. When a vehicle ahead of me in my lane exits the lane the vehicle waits until the car is COMPLETELY out of the lane before proceeding (the 3 does this too just not to the same extent). There was also a case where a pickup truck was in the adjacent lane slightly ahead of me where the pickup moved a bit towards my lane (but never departed his) and my car slowed down slightly as if it was merging. Again the 3 does this too sometimes but it takes a more overt act by the other car. I can see where some people might interpret that as a phantom brake. I also tried driving straight at a traffic cone and got a Forward Collision Alert. My sense is that Tesla has turned down the thresholds a bit to make autopilot more conservative while they complete validation of Tesla Vision. I saw no cases where lack of radar degraded the autopilot performance other than being more tentative. & #x200B UPDATE: Night Time. Auto high beams are still annoying but they have gotten better. It seems to do a better job of distinguishing between oncoming traffic and reflections so it cycles less but it also seems to keep high beams on a bit too long when approaching another car. It wasn t bad enough to get flashed by an angry driver over the 30-mile loop though. Auto high-beam performance is the same with or without radar but it s more annoying without radar because the system forces you to keep them enabled. I hope they either make it better or remove the requirement. Overall autopilot performance at night was the same as during the day. I was particularly interested in how well the system would detect cars that I was approaching from behind particularly when that car was stopped or at a high relative velocity. Autopilot did a good job of detecting other vehicles and slowing down smoothly even when the road was dark and high beams were off because the other car was there. All I could see were the taillights. It also did a good job of maintaining a constant distance to the vehicle in front. A better test would be to have the lead vehicle slam on its brakes at minimum distance but I ll let Tesla do that test. & #x200B
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2021-06-02 21:24:59
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You need to repeat the test and compare the cars at night on AP
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2021-06-02 22:47:04
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Y seat options
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Pardon my ignorance but I can t wrap my head around this. These pics that appeared this weekend show the 3rd row can be ok because the 2nd row is on rails. Is the 3rd row removable? What separates the trunk from the cab if you remove the third row? Could a guy but the 5 seater option when it comes out and add the 3rd later when it becomes available? Source: have wife 2 kids and a dog. Go camping sometimes
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2020-01-19 20:30:03
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Third row folds down but cannot be removed.
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2020-01-19 20:37:48
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Model 3 Seat Impressions
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Would an owner or employee be willing to get my siblings and I in for a factory tour?
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The three of us are FIRST Robotics competitors mentors interested in various STEM careers degrees. We re nearby the Tesla Motors factory in California for a week but when we called ahead we were told you have to be a Tesla owner. My brother and I are avid SpaceX Tesla fans and we d be ecstatic to see the robotics and innovation that goes into making the car. I m not sure if such a tour is possible but I thought this would be the place to ask.
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2013-12-26 17:08:20
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You should try the blog as well
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2013-12-26 21:54:08
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Tesla Factory Tour Restrictions
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Daily Discussion Question and Answer Experiences and Support Thread
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2021-06-17 10:00:15
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DELIVERY DAY!!!
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2021-06-17 12:09:00
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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EAP 1st feature release
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Potential release of auto lane change? [EAP 1st feature](https: twitter.com Model3Owners status 921132995871834112) Let s keep everyone posted here. I don t have the latest firmware so can t confirm. I figured it d be nice to have a single thread for everyone to report their experiences. Most likely a limited rollout right now but maybe it ll ramp up quickly. Edit: [Another report](https: twitter.com Model3Owners status 921351589817860101)
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2017-10-20 00:03:01
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Look s like auto-wipers are an FSD feature.
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2017-10-20 00:08:35
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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So which do you get first? The Powerwall or the solar panels?
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My gut tells me the powerwall first so you can have immediate savings when it s charged by the grid then the solar panels.
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2015-06-21 01:53:04
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Do the math first and see if the powerwall is actually financially worth it where you are. Chances are you should get the solar and not get the power wall at all right now. Selling excess power back is the norm here.
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2015-06-21 02:50:40
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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Tesla Daily Discussion - February 21 2019
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**Current Tesla ships and port arrival date** For Loading * [Grand Venus](https: www.marinetraffic.com en ais home shipid:406871 zoom:15) (Zeebrugge - March 16th) - Still in SFO Port * [Glovis Star](https: www.marinetraffic.com en ais home shipid:3873141 zoom:10) (SFO - February 21st) - Offshore waiting on Grand Venus to leave SFO * [Violet Ace](https: www.marinetraffic.com en ais home shipid:372341 zoom:10) (SFO - February 23rd) * [CSAV Rio Grande](https: www.marinetraffic.com de ais home shipid:5206625 zoom:10) (SFO - February 24th) * [Viking Adventure](https: www.marinetraffic.com en ais home shipid:2246406 zoom:10) (SFO - February 27th) For Delivery * [Morning Cindy](https: www.marinetraffic.com de ais home shipid:412711 zoom:10) (Shanghai - February 22nd) * [CSCC Europe](https: www.marinetraffic.com de ais home shipid:372234 zoom:10) (Zeebrugge - February 22nd) * [Emerald Ace](https: www.marinetraffic.com de ais home shipid:713870 zoom:9) (Tianjin - February 24th) * [Golden Ray](https: www.marinetraffic.com de ais home shipid:5242584 zoom:10) (Shanghai - February 28th) * [Glovis Courage](https: www.marinetraffic.com de ais home shipid:714168 zoom:14) (Zeebrugge - March 4th)
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2019-02-21 14:29:50
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla sold ~2450 Roadsters total. They are now making 2000 vehicles a week. Think about that.
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Optionally go searching for doomsday Will Tesla Survive articles for entertainment. Could be fun.
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2016-08-10 02:35:46
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I remember Tesla Death Watch fondly.
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2016-08-10 03:01:13
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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I have a basic “adulting” question about third party financing and buying a Tesla model 3
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So I m planning to buy a Tesla Model 3 soon. I m 36 this will be my second new car purchase in my adult life. The first time around I just got financing through the dealership. My understanding (possibly wrong) is that Tesla doesn t do financing when you purchase especially in states like mine (TX) where they can t sell the car at the dealership. I d like to use my insurance company to finance my car purchase because they have the best available interest rates. So I have a basic adulting question: what s the best process here? Do I need to be approved for financing a ~$35k loan first or do I purchase the car and then get the financing? Last time I did this it was all at once. I m not worried about getting denied the financing my credit score is above 800. Can someone walk me through the steps here? Call Tesla buy car call financing? Or call financing then call Tesla then buy car? Eh? Eh?
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2019-06-18 01:10:53
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Here s how my experience went: 1. Buy car. 2. Once I Knew my car would be ready soon so I applied around for financing 3. Shortly after I got my vin number and delivery date 4. Called credit union and added the cars vin and specific amount I was going to finance 5. Credit union sent a check to Tesla directly 6. When I went to pick up the car all I had to do was pay for whatever amount was left with a personal check 7. Enjoy car and pay off loan monthly
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2019-06-18 01:17:18
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Tesla Financing Options
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Why does dashcam uses the narrow camera?
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I m very puzzled why Tesla doesn t use the “Wide” or even the “Main” camera instead of the “Narrow” camera for the dashcam. I saw a fender bender on the lane to my right the other day. The car was ahead of me where I saw the accident through my windshield(not passenger window). But the dashcam s field of view was so narrow it didn t capture the accident. This makes the dashcam not as useful. Does this happen to you guys? Is there any scenario where the narrow cam is better for a dashcam?
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2019-03-12 06:37:46
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Narrow is good for reading plates so that might be one reason.
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2019-03-12 06:38:59
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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Model 3 rear window tint - one piece or two
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I am trying to decide between one piece or two for the rear window on the model 3. Does anyone have a picture from the inside of the cabin of a seam along the back window? I m not really an obsessive person about a slight imperfection. Most shops I ve called are around $100-200 more for a one piece install.
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2019-06-15 04:58:45
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Always one piece you ll hate the seam awkwardness.
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2019-06-15 05:10:20
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Ceramic Coating Application Process
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The new face of anti-selling
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So I got a call today from a nice lady at the Seattle Tesla showroom. I ve never been there but I live a few blocks away so she apparently pulled me from a list of local 3 res holders. After she said this I think to myself hoo boy here we go . The new anti selling policy must be very different now all she did was thank me for my reservation and ask me if I had any questions. I had one: when is the 3 going to be available for test drives? She didn t know. Finally she asked permission to send me an email with her contact info. I said sure. I was expecting the email to be the typical there won t be any credits left! Model S costs less than premium model 3!! But it was just an invite to test drive an S and letting me know they have appointments available next week. Cool I ll take them up on that. I m guessing they re going to try to send me home with an S little do they know I barely make enough money to justify a base model 3 with full tax credit and Washington sales tax exemption but we ll see how aggressive they are. If I don t end up doing the test drive I will probably ask for a refund for my reservation instead so I can pick up a cheap fiat 500e (electric) that does 95% of what I want for a few grand. But ideally I d like to keep the reservation and see how everything plays out.
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2017-08-23 06:20:33
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The Fiat 500 is my most regretted purchase. It s okay driving but the build and interior is pretty bad. However it is a little better now that I ripped the dash open and put a piece of tape on the beeper. That thing is INSANELY loud and annoying. Like seriously if you re driving to the mailbox without your seatbelt prepare to be punished. Also every time you turn the key prepare to be punished. A little extra waiting could be super rewarding for you.
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2017-08-23 06:52:04
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Daily Discussion Question and Answer Experiences and Support Thread
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2021-02-20 11:00:16
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Got my black orbital aero covers in the mail today I ordered Feb 26 2020 for ref for those waiting. Would love to see what they look like especially on a white 3 especially. Can anyone share video or pix beyond the company s stock footage? My car is covered in Philly winter weather so not going to unbox mine (yet). I ve actually grown to love the naked look so might sell these. Turns out storing unused aero covers when you are lacking in space is annoying. Tried doing my own posts but got auto hidden 😥
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2021-02-20 13:06:15
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Too Hot Exit Speed off Ramp on Navigate on autopilot
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I use Navigate on Autopilot quite often on Route 128 outside of Boston. Whenever I try to exit on route 1a heading south (on route to Tesla Dedham) autopilot takes me to the exit full speed with no apparent braking. I chicken out at the last second and brake as it appears that autopilot is trying to kill me. Anyone else have similar experiences?
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2020-02-08 16:48:26
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It s clearly just doing its best to mimic the behavior of Boston drivers. I wouldn t worry. 128 is like a high-stakes Six Flags rollercoaster
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2020-02-08 17:11:19
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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1 year free Supercharging
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Just got a call from my rep Tesla is offering 1 year free supercharging for M3 MY if you take delivery before 12 31 must place order by end of today 12 12 to make the year end delivery deadline. I was going to wait until January to place MY order should I just order now? Update: Tesla is trying to incentivize taking delivery before end of the year to push up their sell numbers. If you have placed an order and will be taking delivery with the next 3 weeks by 12 31 you will get free supercharging for a year. Update2: Here is an article from Electrek.co (https: electrek.co 2020 12 12 tesla-offers-one-year-free-supercharging-to-incentivize-deliveries-record-quarter-attempt ). According to a quote in the article this incentive excludes the M3 SR but to my knowledge right now you can only order the SR+ from Tesla.com so not sure if SR+ would get this incentive.
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2020-12-12 20:41:30
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As someone who has owned two Tesla s with unlimited free supercharging I can say unless you drive a LOT away from your home then free supercharging isn t really all that great. If you do drive away from your home often then yes by all means it s a fantastic deal but take some time to honestly think about your driving habits. My first Tesla (S) I road tripped constantly and put 35k miles on it in 2 years and about 25K of that was free supercharger miles. I drove everywhere. Then my supercharging speeds got nerfed (look it up) and I traded in the car. Now I have an X and rarely drive it far enough away from my home to need supercharging. I wish I d not bought the X for free charging as soon afterwards they updated the X to the Raven versions. I d rather have waited. edit. I posted this lower down but here s some hard data on using superchargers as your primary charging vs charging at home: Not a perfect example but here s some data: I have about 16 000 miles on my X. Total charging is about 8 650kWh since I bought it and of that 3 700kWh of it is from free supercharging. Compared to the price of electricity at my house I ve saved $332.84 using free superchargers. It s not a great example as if I did pay for supercharging I d be paying a much more expensive rate (whatever Tesla charges you to use them). And also I mostly only supercharge while on the road away from my house so really charging at home wouldn t be an option. But for someone who doesn t have home charging but does have access to a local supercharger it will give you a sense for how much you d be saving. Basically about 35-40% of all my charging is using free supercharging and the bulk of that is from a recent cross country trip I took that was about 6 000 total miles all supercharging.
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2020-12-12 20:46:27
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Tesla Referral Program Issues
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[Discussion] How does the Model 3 compare to the Model S X? What are you giving up for that affordability?
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Hi just some random guy with no actual means to buy literally anything at the moment but I ve been fascinated by both Tesla and SpaceX recently for some reason and I wanted to know y all s opinion on this. Looking at the Model 3 it seems somewhat lacking when compared to the Model S or the Model X. This somewhat makes sense when looking from a price tier standpoint but what truly are the differences and what are you giving up by moving from an S X to a 3?
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2018-02-13 04:34:38
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https: www.reddit.com r RealTesla comments 7vqe1i update_my_model_3_is_now_in_for_its_first_service Relevant excerpt: **The real interesting thing** is that I got a new (1k miles) 2017 S75 RWD as a loaner and so I ve now finally had a chance to compare an S75 and a Model 3 LR within a few minutes of each other. The only option the car is outfitted with is Autopilot so it s almost as basic as you can get making it almost perfect for those “First production Model 3 vs basic Model S comparisons except for the fact that it s not AWD like they are now by default. I ve had plenty of experience with the Model S in higher battery trims with more options but all of these were months before I got my 3 so I couldn t draw real comparisons without placing a great deal of faith in my memory. But since I drove my 3 only a matter of a couple dozen minutes before taking off in the S I get to really compare them now but only for my use cases. I don t have kids so I m not worried about car seats rear facing seats etc. **PERFORMANCE**: First off it s faster than my car in a straight line and there s no question about that. It pulls harder from a stop and at highway speeds alike. This is about what I d like the 3 to be at for the LR version but it s not a dramatic difference either. The Model S is a softer ride than my 3 with the standard air suspension but I feel like it comes at the cost of handling. The 3 feels more precise and responsive but I d have to hit some decent twisty roads to really get a feel for which is truly better for handling. The 3 is definitely more fun as a matter of my opinion. I could be tripping balls but I feel like the 3 s regenerative braking is stronger with both set on Standard (who uses Low? Seriously!) The S also has substantially shorter range even in the best case scenario. **INTERIOR**: *Displays*: Yup there are two displays in the S. I do really enjoy having the power graph there (or at all) but it s actually kinda weird to have to look past the steering wheel to see my speed now. Mixed feelings on the nav instructions being in the binnacle as well. If they were on the left side of the 3 s screen I think it d be the winner but as it stands now it s a slight edge to the S. The vertical orientation of the MCU and ability to display multiple pages at once e.g. nav + rear camera is really nice. The MCU itself however is slllooooowwwwwww. It never felt that bad in the past because it dominated all other car infotainment displays I could compare again but against the 3 it seems glacial in comparison. *Controls*: The steering wheel buttons as well as the drive mode and washer control levers feel cheap compared with the soft-engagement feel in the 3. However the dedicated autopilot stalk is definitely a better UX for now because of the bullshit associated with the 3 s unfinished UI. Presumably we ll be able to map the follow distance and speeds to the right scroll wheel but for now… nope. I still hate the S interior door handles & pulls as well as the exterior ones. Also the mirror controls feel really odd to have as dedicated functions now though I do kiiiiinda like having the dedicated “fold” button. The placement of the controls on the S is also sort of annoying but that might be minimized if I got the seating position just right so I m not going to hold that against the S for now. *Seats*: Adjustable headrest is kinda cool for we tall folk. Otherwise sort of a tie. The multi pattern cloth is interesting but not my style. The driver seat feels substantially more cramped because of the cockpit design though. I don t think I fully appreciated the 3 s “open” design until today. I still don t love everything about the 3 s interior but it I certainly don t feel like the car is being wrapped around me to the same extent and in this context that s not a positive comment in the same way it would be if this were a performance car that I m driving to the limit. *Center console & interior storage & armrest area*: 3 wins no question for me. Better in every single way. More storage more usable more comfortable when using armrest. *Visibility Rear*: 3 is slightly worse in some ways because the belt line is so high but the S has center headrest there being annoying and blocking things. *Visibility Front*: 3 dominates. Not to the extent that the Model X does but it s still no contest. The lower front edge of the roof also contributes to the more cramped feel IMO. *Headliner*: Both similar materials but the S is black. I still want this in my 3 but wonder if it contributes to the more cramped feel. *Roof*: S wins no big crossbeam thingie. *Noise*: Seems like a wash? I ll pay close attention and maybe take some measurements. **EXTERIOR**: *Power liftgate*: I do kinda miss this from my previous car. Not a big deal… but nice. *Door handles*: I don t like the auto-presenting handles from a design standpoint nor do I like them from a reliability standpoint. The 3 s are weird to people who haven t used them before I guess. Everything else on the exterior is just a matter of aesthetics so not worth discussing. Didn t do a panel gap evaluation or anything. **OVERALL**: The Model S is a fine car no question but when comparing my car to the S if I ask myself “is this worth an extra $23 500?” and the answer is “hell no not to me.” EDIT: Evening Errata - Added after driving home from work and then running a few errands. 1. Model 3 headlights are substantially better than Model S for normal low high modes… but the adaptive headlights are kinda neat on the S. Also auto high beam is working on S but not 3. Presumably this will come to the 3 but who knows. 2. Model S seats are more bolstered and sporty which is great as far as I m concerned. 3. Model 3 with 2017.50.11 and 2017.50.12 firmware seems substantially better for autopilot on local roads than Model S 2018.2 at least in my very limited testing. Some areas that I ve used AP with my 3 on every day caused the S to have a shitshow swerve session. Granted there are a hell of a lot of factors like where I was in the lane etc but definitely noteworthy on the way home. 4. Model S backup camera is still wayyyyy better than Model 3 even with 2017.50.x. I m still not convinced that the Model 3 s camera needs more than just being tuned properly though.
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2018-02-13 04:41:58
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Using a Tesla battery pack as a power wall in the future (10~ years)
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Just was thinking as I m about to receive my model 3. Is it possible and does it make sense in the long term to use my model 3 after I m finished driving it as a powerwall? This leads into a second question - will this have an exponential impact on the price of power-walls power-packs in a decade as a lot of these cars come off the roads - meaning a faster transition to decentralized grid power at a really fast rate at the end of the 2020 s. Thoughts?
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2018-07-17 12:11:46
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I think there will be a huge market of repurposing damaged or end of life vehicle battery packs. For example a Model 3 Long Range has a 75kWh Battery and a Powerwall 2 has a 13.5kWh Battery. So even if a Model 3 Battery has 20% degradation is a huge home Battery. of course the size is a big difference but really a Model 3 Battery could fit into a garage wall quite easily.
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2018-07-17 12:18:34
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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What is considered a performance model ?
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From what I understand Model 3 performance models will have priority when starting to ship. What is considered a performance model ? I know we won t have an absolute answer but an guessing some can speculate.
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2016-05-06 22:05:17
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A model that says P for performance. The performance cars have different drive units suspension and other hardware that differentiates them from the regular models.
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2016-05-06 22:20:39
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Daily Discussion - February 12 2019
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2019-02-12 09:11:53
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PSA that best purchase I ve made for my Model 3 is a center console wrap for like $30. I can t communicate what a better surface it is than the piano black. Brings me joy every time I drive haha.
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2019-02-12 12:14:28
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Scheduled Charging not working after a stopped charge
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Happened twice already on 2018.50 firmware and I think I know how to reproduce. If the car is plugged in and a charge is requested from the app and then stopped the scheduled charge doesn t kick in even though both the car and the app say it will. I ll confirm when I get home by changing the schedule and trying the start stop again. Two days so far (not consecutive) that I wake up to the same SoC as the night before. Anyone see the same thing?
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2019-01-10 03:48:40
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I noticed the same thing with 48.12.1. I didn t think much of it but it was the same thing you experienced.
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2019-01-10 04:32:24
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Anyone have any idea when the Solar City - Tesla merger is likely to go through?
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Could it go through tomorrow? Next week? Next month? Next year? Do we have any idea the time frame? Let me know!
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2016-07-31 20:58:37
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[As a matter of fact yes](http: imgur.com f0Ezzqg)
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2016-08-01 01:23:29
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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FSD beta missing features
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Tesla s FSD beta 10 and their continued refinement of self driving is really impressive. I can t help but notice though that some things are completely missing. This is a list of new features that I think will need to be added before level 5 robo taxis are a reality. * Detection of road closures and the ability to automatically reroute * Hand gesture recognition and response. Right now there is no capability to respond to a human directing traffic. * Support for the transition between FSD and auto park * Support for pulling out of a parking space * Emergency vehicle detection and response * Support for pulling over in an emergency like a flat tire * Significant improvements to handling in parking lots What else am I missing or does anyone know of a more complete list? Edit: Adding things to the list * Pothole detection * Automatic horn when interacting with incompetent drivers * Handling of yield signs specifically at roundabouts * Automatic spraying of windshield washer fluid * Driving in the snow * Turn signal hazard light detection * Transitioning between summon and FSD. Also reverse summon. * Puddle detection and avoidance * Train crossings * School bus detection and handling * School zone handling * Proper handling of intersections with heavy traffic. The Tesla shouldn t enter an intersection if there is not room to clear it. * Sign detection in general * Support for reversing to get out of jams * Bus lane detection * Preemptive lane changes in response to traffic cones Features needed for Robo-Taxi (Not level 5) * Automatic snake charger * Self clearing cameras (Or support for going through a car wash autonomously)
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2021-01-19 04:25:49
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I saw a model 3 do an automatous U turn on YouTube last week so there s one thing you can mark off your list.
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2021-01-19 04:45:47
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Any Model 3 Outdoor Cover Experiences
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I ll be picking up my model 3 this Saturday in socal (blue aero wheels) and was thinking about getting a cover for it. I m a pilot out of lax and my current car gets disgusting during my longer trips parked in the lots. I was wondering if anyone has the 3 outdoor cover or purchased another cover and could share some thoughts. Thanks!
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2018-03-20 20:20:43
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I have a friend with the outdoor cover Tesla makes. It seemed pretty nice. Was really tight to get on the vehicle but at least then it also stays on. Also had grommets for keeping it better tied down. I appreciated the built in venting. Down side is it s really branded so people will KNOW it s a Tesla.
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2018-03-20 20:32:56
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Tesla Climate Control Issues
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Anyone installed a EV charger at their business?
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Kinda overwhelmed in what s the best way to install an EV charger at our hotel properties. Needs to support all EV cars and will be a perk for guests. Anyone dealt with this? I m going to talk with someone at ChargePoint but wondering what others are doing. Thanks for any input. & #x200B EDIT: Colorado and we don t want the fastest chargers... maybe 30-40 miles a hour? We want guests to stay on the property and spend money. It will be 100% free to use for now at least (hopefully forever). We want it to work with any EV.
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2021-05-27 15:28:27
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If you aren t charging money just install outdoor rated J1772 chargers. Tesla used to have a program where they would provide the chargers for free to business owners. Though im not a fan of installing tesla specific chargers. Id avoid chargepoint since they require an app for no reason if you aren t billing.
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2021-05-27 17:11:27
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Question about anti traffic jam policies in busy areas (in Europe).
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I m not sure what the policies are of countries around the Netherlands but here high gas prices (+-€1.75 per liter $9.15 per gallon) benefits the government s anti traffic jam policies. There is little room for highway widening and the railway already costs tons of money (for both the government and the commuter). When EV car travel becomes cheaper and cheaper EV travel will go up but electricity prices aren t going to make EV travel nearly as expensive as travel with combustion vehicles. How can the busier areas of Europe act? I mean the Dutch Randstad the German Ruhrgebiet Bruxelles Paris Greater London etc are stuffed with cars already and there is little space. I don t think higher EV taxes to discourage car usage makes sense (as that would only slow down EV adoption) but a complete standstill of one of the most productive parts of Europe isn t an option either. Toll roads perhaps? Or are EVs not going to change car usage in Europe that radically?
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2013-12-15 18:53:02
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EVs won t change things radically. Self driving cars might - Tesla has some plans in these area but r SelfDrivingCars is more focused on the possibilities.
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2013-12-16 03:22:40
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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A year into my 2019 Long Range AWD Model 3 - my list of pros and cons
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I ve had my Model 3 for a little over a year now and wanted to put my pros and cons into a list for anyone looking into get into one themselves. Some background to help provide insight into why my pros and cons are my pros and cons - I m a huge tech enthusiast and live in an area that experiences all four seasons. This is my first EV coming from three Cadillacs and an Audi. I charge at home with a 220 volt outlet and the mobile charger that came with the car. I ve only had to supercharge a handful of times and do 99.9% of my charging at home. I opted for the base 18 rims base (at the time) black paint and base black interior. Pros * AutoPilot. This one can t not be at the top of the list. I had to move for work recently and my commute grew from 2 miles round trip to 70. I spend a lot more time in the car and about 90% of my commute is on the highway. The 30 minute drive to and from work feels like nothing because I barely have to do anything - pretty much just get in the car and let it take over. * Acceleration torque power. Even without the performance model and the $2 000 speed upgrade there s a good chance I m the fastest car on the road at a given time. Being able to zoom forward to merge onto the highway or overtake a slow moving car on a two lane road is amazing. Plus the feeling of my head hitting the head rest has not gotten old yet even a year in. * Software updates. Some features my car has gotten for free over the last year: faster 0-60 time games Netflix left and right side view camera access when using the backup camera lane keep assist and lane departure warning visualization improvements and more. This is the only car I ve ever had that actually gains more in features after you drive it off the lot - and for free. * Wow factor. I ll admit I like the attention to an extent. Watching passengers break their necks to look into my car while cruising along the highway with AutoPilot on and hearing where s your engine when I pull my backpack out of the frunk when I walk into work in the morning. * No gas stations! Starting on a full tank every day is a point that s not talked about enough. Not to mention the convenience of not having to go to the gas station. * Remote control. I LOVE that I can control a lot of the features in my car remotely. My last two Cadillacs and my Audi all had remote lock capabilities and my two Cadillacs had remote start from my smartphone too but to be able to set the climate heated seats vent windows lock doors open trunk frunk from my phone is awesome. Being able to start it from the app is also a really cool feature if you ever need to let someone move your car while you re away from it with the key. * Winter driving. This car is over 2 ton. Coupled with all wheel drive and cautious driving it acted like a tank this past winter. We had maybe 10-15 bad snows throughout the winter and not once did I question my ability to navigate the roads or worry that I d get stuck somewhere. I didn t use winter tires. * Instant heat. Coupled with pre-conditioning I could warm my car up in the colder months 5 minutes before I was ready to take off and the interior would be nice and comfortable for me by the time I was ready. Plus if it had snowed it was really nice being able to thaw the front and rear windshields to an extent. Cons * Tesla support. This one goes to the top of the list. Tesla s customer service and support is garbage. Unless MAYBE you live in California and it s a little less garbage. My delivery experience was horrible and trying to get any kind of service for my car has been a joke without even the option for a loaner vehicle for repairs. Say what you want but rideshare credits are not going to cut it when I ve got an 80 mile trip home from the service center and that 70 mile round trip work commute I mentioned earlier during the week. Tesla has been reluctant to schedule mobile service every time I ve requested it and trying to reach someone is next to impossible because they do all of their chatting with you via text. They take days to respond - I m not kidding. * Overall vehicle and paint quality. The driver and passenger rear doors stick out slightly farther than the front doors. It s enough that there are actually paint chips on the little part that sticks out on the back doors from rocks debris getting kicked up off the road. One year in and the rock chips on the front are AWFUL. I m afraid to see what it s going to look like after another winter. The paint quality seems pretty poor and a lot of people seem to share the same consensus. There was peeling paint and paint bubbles in two areas on my car at delivery as well. Quality control seems to be an afterthought. Not sure if it s still an issue on the cars coming off the line today but there were a lot of complaints on this and my Model 3 is no exception. * Lack of luxury features for a luxury car. Compared to my last car a loaded Audi A4 Prestige trim this car does not have (nor does any trim level of the Model 3): proper blind spot monitoring rear cross traffic alert braking 360 degree birdseye camera view handsfree operated rear trunk head-up display heated steering wheel tri-zone climate control decent ambient interior lighting XM radio (I will never understand this one especially since Model S and X have it?) and a bunch of other small things (like cool dynamic sequential rear turn signals illuminated door sills projection puddle lamps and more). * AutoPilot is far from perfect. I have been flipped off by someone behind me more than once because AutoPilot decided the empty road ahead posed a threat and proceeded to slam on the brakes. The person behind thought I was brake checking them and (rightfully) gave me the finger. Going from a single lane to double lane road is hit or miss especially if the new lane is a turning lane. Up until recently my Model 3 would always try to hard swerve into a turning lane instead of continuing straight in the driving lane. * Rain sensing wipers and auto high beams may as well not exist. Model 3 does not have a real rain sensor because Tesla decided to save some cash and try to use AI from the cameras that control AutoPilot in the front of the car. Because it doesn t use the normal rain sensor (which uses IR light to detect if there s water on the windshield) like every other car with this feature the car often gets confused at what wiper speed is necessary for the amount of rain falling and decided it can t go wrong if it just sets the wipers to high speed for a light sprinkle. Sometimes the wipers work decently but I find myself manually controlling them 90% of the time. Tesla - you already missed the boat on a real rain sensor but maybe give us a sensitivity control? The auto high beams are pretty bad too. It deactivates at signs on the road that reflect the lights from my car but won t turn off when a driver is coming toward me. It s even worse on the highway. If the brights do turn off on their own the car activates them IMMEDIATELY after the passing car has left the camera which results in the driver in the opposing lane getting flashed jut as they re passing you. * Cold weather = 50% range on full charge. This one sucks. It s not a Tesla problem it s an EV problem. Heat is a lot more inefficient than A C so in the winter even if you have your cabin climate turned off the energy the car uses to warm the battery is still going to cause pretty significant range loss. There are no superchargers in between me and my family an hour away so up until I bought a spare mobile charger my trips home were always filled with worry that I wouldn t have enough charge to make it back especially if there was a snowstorm or other factor that caused additional drain. These are the high level pros and cons that I can think of for now. Not an extensive list by any means but it seems like I ve gotten a lot down as it is. Thanks for reading.
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**Cons**: I ll add that last winter when it rained my interior fogged up so much more than any car I ve ever had. My seats or some area of the interior I could never pinpoint made a ton of squeaks. Cabin Noise. Holy crap at highway speed even with my premium stereo it s almost pointless if you don t blast music. I m not ready to have dynomat done and the rubber door seals and roof made zero impact. **Pros**: Regen braking. One pedal driving is the bomb don t know how I lived without it and Hold is amazing. Lower compartment in trunk is great. I can stow my yeti cooler packed with ice and it s nice and secure. I can bring home ice cream 115 degree Arizona heat without it turning into milk shake. Lack of maintenance. Love not having to have car serviced like an ICE. With one pedal regen probably my brake pads will last a looong time. Sentry mode. Haven t needed it but I like knowing when I m in a sketchy area I feel that much more comfort knowing I have some surveilance Dog mode. I don t have a dog but I ll keep it on when I have groceries in the car (another 115 degree Arizona reference)
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2020-08-15 06:43:23
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The Bandit license plate holder
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Hi All. For those of you who installed The Bandit front license plate holder how have things been going? In the thread I found on the product there was a lot of concern expressed that it might damage the grill air intake area but no one posted any actual real world experience. I d love to hear if there have been actual problems or not. Aesthetically I like this license plate holder the best. https: youtu.be Ty-Zvi8aRIE
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2018-09-07 00:28:09
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Seeing Bandit in that title today made me think of Burt. RIP Bandit!
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2018-09-07 01:10:51
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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TACC sudden deceleration and collision warning when passing under overhead signs
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It s been a month driving my new X and so far only TACC works but AP hasn t been turned on and there have been no firmware updates. TACC works most of the time but is prone to sudden braking with a collision warning when in enclosed tunnels and sometimes passing under overhead road signs like [this](http: imgur.com xSLRv0M). I have to make sure my foot is on the accelerator so the car behind doesn t slam into me. It s gotten so bad now that I have to check I don t have cars too close behind me before I turn on TACC. It s given my partner a fright quite a few times so I m now essentially banned from using TACC when I have passengers. Has anyone encountered this? I am in Hong Kong.
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2017-03-31 06:00:28
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I had the same issue here even posted a thread about it a while back. Seems that Tesla uses the radar to scan for objects ahead and aims rather high. Eventually these overhead signs will be whitelisted and it shouldn t happen anymore. Can take a few weeks or even months though.
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2017-03-31 07:26:40
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Tesla Autopilot Performance
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Any way to filter out posts by flair?
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After viewing the 7 millionth hey look at my Tesla in the sun fog rain supercharging parked on the road next to another Tesla that s the same color etc etc etc post I d like to remove any post from my feed tagged photo. By keyword would be nice too so I can get rid of all the just ordered and just took delivery posts. I m glad people love their cars but I m here to keep up with new information and since the relaxing of rule 1 a huge percentage of what I get is a picture of a Tesla for the 7 millionth time. Makes it hard to get to the informative posts.
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2019-05-03 00:35:44
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I hate that people voted on wanting this shit. :-(
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2019-05-03 00:49:59
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Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors
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Sentry mode has turned off due to a sentry system error
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The Tesla mobile app pushed a Sentry mode has turned off due to a sentry system error notification. First time I ve seen this. Something new with 2020.12.5? https: preview.redd.it rutlwdsd5nr41.png?width=1101& format=png& auto=webp& s=4132c1541a56f646d9d099369d98175061aef6fe Other than the common sometimes-corrupt recordings it s been behaving normally. Hack or not would be nice if Tesla would schedule an fsck cron job on the TeslaCam filesystem - it often seems to be a mess.
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2020-04-08 19:02:19
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Not new - has popped up every now and then especially after the initial release of V10. Can be caused by fs corruption stemming from the car failing to dismount the drive before cutting power and by ap computer crashing.
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2020-04-08 19:46:02
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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$318 a month for business use How so?
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The Tesla motors website claims you can finance the model S for just $318 a month. How does the # get that low exactly? Fuel deduction tax deduction business write off...?? Any insight is appreciated.
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2013-08-23 23:30:50
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- EV incentives: deduction - gasoline: deduction - resale value: deduction - business tax benefit: deduction - what you value your time you do not use at the gas station or how much faster you are due to being able to use the carpool lane: deduction
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2013-08-23 23:45:04
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EV Tax Credit Information
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Just put down my deposit for model s... what add ons are essential?
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I m trying to keep the price as low as possible... what add ons should I choose? Right now I have the 60kwh battery and the only add on is the super charger enabled feature. I kinda feel that should be standard but oh well. I avoided gps since I use my phone anyway. Only colors that don t cost extra are black and white.
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2014-03-24 06:09:04
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Congrats! The tech package (it is more than just GPS). Possibly more useful if there are multiple drivers you have a garage door opener you d like to not clutter your car with etc.
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2014-03-24 07:17:20
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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Can someone else place a preorder in my name for me?
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I have a final exam at 9a on March 31 so I was wondering if someone could go in my place and place the preorder in my name? What info is needed to place the preorder? Do you think it will make a significant difference if I place my preorder when the store opens versus around 1p when I leave my final? I m afraid that could mean the difference between having a spot in the low couple thousands to being higher than 20 000. Anyone have info on the number of Model X preorders within the first day?
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2016-02-13 19:19:43
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Send me Bitcoin and a copy of a valid ID DOB and your social.
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2016-02-13 21:13:43
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Tesla Model 3 Delivery Experiences
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P3D owners - is it worth it?
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I have an M3 midrange so it has the premium interior with 19” wheels and it s plenty fast. I am considering trading up to a Performance for the AWD extra range and extra power. I live in Toronto and during the winter I found the RWD a little bit nerve-racking at times but ultimately fine. Now that prices are lower on Performance it s looking attractive. Is there that much of a difference to make paying at least 15-20K more worth it to upgrade? Are you happy with your decision to buy the Performance over the LR? Thanks!
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2019-07-20 14:08:00
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If you were just buying for the first time I d say of course it s worth it. But dude if it s gonna cost you $15-20k to do it definitely not worth it. You re also asking this question in the worst possible place. All you re gonna get here is confirmation bias ask in r personalfinance if you want objective responses. People in this sub are wayyy too emotional. They d tell you to sell your own mother for a Tesla. Edit: so because people are missing the point and also proving it at the same time never mind the r personalfinance sub try r cars .. Point is ask this question anywhere but here.
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2019-07-20 14:48:51
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Suggestion: on AP2 cars when you activate the right and left blinkers it should show the sideview camera feed on the screen.
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This is a phenomenally safer approach as you can immediately see cars sitting in your blind spot or rapidly approaching. UI could be similar to when you turn on the rear camera. Seems like a no brainer feature option?
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2018-01-13 08:00:52
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The side cameras are not used at all yet. I suspect something like this will come once they finally start using them.
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2018-01-13 09:39:27
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Issues with Sentry Mode
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Meta: Should r SolarCity and r Teslamotors be merged?
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And is r Teslamotors still the appropriate name?
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2016-11-22 00:41:04
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Solar City is going to cease to exist. So either rename this sub TeslaEnergy or continue on as-is with TeslaMotors and just use it for all TeslaEnergy products.
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2016-11-22 01:13:06
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Growth and Moderation of r/teslamotors
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Are Superchargers handling the big holiday rush for the first time?
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Usually during a big holiday weekend like Thanksgiving there are multiple posts of long lines at Superchargers especially in CA or parts of the East Coast. Is it simply because fewer people are traveling because of COVID-19? Or has Tesla been able to expand some of the known bottlenecks in the charging network?
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2020-11-28 20:49:07
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At a guess with no data to back it up yet people likely weren t traveling far outside the area they live. The highway near me was effectively empty compared to every other holiday any other year.
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2020-11-28 21:01:28
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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They got me! New Model S on the way.
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I ve been reading and obsessing over Tesla vehicles for many months. I reserved the model 3 on day one but I had yet to drive an S. I ve read a lot of similar warnings and stories here to know what the outcome would be but I didn t care. It was time to drive one. If I was writing ad copy about the experience it would be simple. Pure Joy It was everything I hoped for and more. Absolutely incredible. Now I wait... :-
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2016-08-25 22:16:22
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Congrats and welcome to the club! You ll love the 60D. And don t worry about the standard seats - you ll love them as well. If money was no option I think I d still get the standard textile seats. I love mine and I m not a huge fan of leather. Only thing that may change my mind is those glorious ventilated seats. I d be even more excited if they actually ran A C air through those seats.
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2016-08-25 22:51:32
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Editing my order for 19 wheels (Model3 AWD Ordered with 18 Aero)
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I m sorry if this question has been asked before but i needed to know if this was going to affect me. I had been debating for a while about the 18 aero vs the 19 wheels. (AWD) I chose the 18 aero but i am being drawn towards the 19 wheels. I ordered before the cut off for the free premium internet. Do i risk losing the premium internet if i make the change and do i get charged $500 for making the change?
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2018-07-11 23:40:31
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You do not get charged for premium internet if your original order was before 7 1. I confirmed this with my sales advisor when I changed my order to include FSD. As long as the original order date is before 7 1 you will get the free itnernet
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2018-07-12 02:00:25
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Model Y Wheel Options
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Car Pickup in COVID-19 World
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Does anyone know if Tesla is making any modifications to Model Y pickups to accomodate CDC recommendations around COVID-19? We received notification that we can pickup on Saturday which is obviously exciting but also don t want to be irresponsible. Checking in on whether anyone else has similar concerns or maybe Tesla has made modifications addressed and I just haven t seen it. (Also I ve never actually done a Tesla pickup to know what it s like - maybe there s little interaction and a non concern?)
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2020-03-18 21:13:49
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Some places are doing quick handoff I m guessing they skip the tutorial which is the only portion of the process that requires you to be near anybody besides handing them the check of course.
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2020-03-18 21:15:39
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Newbie with question
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2020 M3. Navigate on autopilot disappeared Phone stays connected to car but I keep having to resync to get text messages
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2020-05-07 19:28:06
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Possibly stupid question but you did purchase the $7 000 FSD option right?
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2020-05-07 20:04:11
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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PA legislature just hammered through an EV fee bill
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The PA legislature today very quickly passed SB 845 today which added a $175 year registration fee on EVs to an existing bill on vehicle weight regulations. This was brought down from $250 year in the first version of the amended bill but even at $175 it is the second-highest such fee in the USA. (Georgia charges $200 yr) Edit: Total yearly fee will be $218 = $175+$43 yearly inspection. New edit: The bill was killed today by state senate democrats and the manufacturer dealer lobby.
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2020-11-20 00:56:21
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Going by the condition of the roads I ve been on out there that might not be unwarranted. Ideally it should go into a fund that can only be used for road maintenance though.
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2020-11-20 00:57:24
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EV Tax Credit Information
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Tesla has increased the price of the Long Range and Performance Model 3 in the US by $1 000 each. RWD Model 3 remains the same at $46 990 | Long Range starting price: $55 990 | Performance starting price: $62 990
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& #x200B https: preview.redd.it xf3kt8c430s81.png?width=1919& format=png& auto=webp& s=25f76560e86bb42b386fdfedfac339a2653c654d
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2022-04-07 00:22:54
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By next year a Model 3 LR will be $80 000
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2022-04-07 03:07:57
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Prediction: Tesla s next major product will be a combined heat pump heat store and HVAC (heating ventilating and air conditioning)
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TL:DR It s the missing piece of the puzzle. After gasoline for transportation air conditioning (A C) and heating are the two largest domestic energy uses in the USA. A combined heat pump heat store and HVAC system would allow summer heat to be stored for winter use which is significantly more energy efficient that a simple ground heat pump. Tesla are already building experience with this type of system (on an industrial scale) cf recent building permits at the gigafactory for a heat store. The ventilation part of the system would likely include HEPA filters and bio-defence mode because Tesla. Discuss.
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2016-11-22 00:30:46
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Hard to store heat for individual homes for months at a time.
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2016-11-22 00:50:51
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Tesla Climate Control Issues
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As a resident of Los Angeles with out current fires I could not think of a better company to make electric search and rescue vehicles.
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Honestly think about it search and rescue tesla trucks (pickups) if ever made could go through a fire and the driver may not have to worry about the engine stalling or fuel lines exploding.
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2017-12-07 05:10:38
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As a volunteer firefighter with a little experience being driven around fires I would not suggest driving any vehicle through a fire EV or otherwise. The residence time for a fire front is much greater than most people estimate and with that sort of heat it takes very little time to start melting plastics wires and other important bits. However for a rescue vehicle one advantage an EV might have is the low centre of gravity in rough steep terrain. The recent [Electrek article on the Nikola UTV](https: electrek.co 2017 11 21 nikola-zero-electric-utv-energy-capacity-tesla ) highlighted that.
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2017-12-07 05:24:00
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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[Discussion] Regen vs Neutral for max range
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I have been reading a lot about whether or not you should be using neutral or normal regen (especially when going downhill) for max range on your vehicle. I m curious what scenarios you use each one. On the freeway when I hit a downhill I find neutral to be effective but when driving down a mountain I typically find my battery to go up by the time I m at the bottom. How exactly do you know when to use each mode?
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2018-12-14 05:03:29
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Always have maximum regeneration enabled and simply control it with your throttle that will give you the best of all worlds.
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2018-12-14 05:11:26
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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PGE rate hike (CA)
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Haven t seen this posted yet. If you don t have solar get on it if you can! they are consolidating tiers even more and raising prices with it! [SF Chron - CPUC approves rate hike ](http: www.sfchronicle.com business amp PG-E-s-electricity-rate-hike-approved-by-11139732.php)
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2017-05-20 00:31:38
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And if you charge at night and don t have a time-of-day plan with PG& E get on it.
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2017-05-20 16:32:33
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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Looking for examples of black Teslas with custom trim?
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I want to get a Model 3 in the stock black color but I don t particularly like the chrome trim. I m wondering if anyone has some example pics of customizing the trim on a Tesla with the standard black finish? Also if anyone has done this type of customization what did it cost? Sorry if this is a duplicate I did a search and found a couple examples but not many.
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2020-12-05 21:42:07
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2021 refresh of the model 3 included matte black trim pieces instead of chrome.
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2020-12-05 22:19:47
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Why don t more people talk about the insane opportunity of FSD semi-trucks?
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Especially in light of $4000 price targets and Elon saying Tesla will soon be worth $500B I find it strange that almost everyone is trying to reconcile these numbers solely with the robotaxi network. Trucking is a significantly bigger market than a robotaxi network and just like cost reductions to ride-sharing will increase demand FSD trucks will reduce prices to a point that trucking is remarkably competitive with every form of transport. Freight trains are currently more cost-effective for long distance (> 700 miles) due to fuel and labor but all of that will change with Tesla FSD trucks. The U.S. trucking industry collects ~ $250 billion in revenue annually (https: tkographix.com how-big-is-the-trucking-industry ). Total ride-sharing revenue in 2018 was ~ $20 billion. These markets aren t really comparable and I feel like Tesla should be using this capital raise to aggressively develop their semi production lines. Not to mention Tesla would collect a much higher percentage of cost mile for trucks than for regular cars. Any thoughts? Edit: Here is more of my analysis from below: There are currently 3.5 million truck drivers making ~$40 000 year. That is a total cost for trucking companies of $140 billion more than half of their total revenue. If Tesla can eliminate that cost entirely while also greatly reducing the energy cost mile I do not see why they wouldn t either: (1) become a trucking company themselves or (2) take a fee per mile of ~50% of the total savings Tesla produces. Of course competition will eventually come but I don t see how they could only be netting 200k per semi when each will hundreds of thousands in savings. A semi driver gets paid on average $.30 - $.40 per mile. If Tesla charged $.15 per mile for a hundred thousand miles a year and a million mile lifespan that would be additional revenue of $15k per year or $150k per lifespan. Not to mention the trucks would be charging up at Tesla superchargers for added profit Another way to look at it: charging will take more time than fueling up for now yes but that time will be more than made up for by the increased utilization of a FSD truck that can drive charge for 24 hours a day. These trucks will have higher utilization be worth more to trucking logistics companies and create value of more than the $40 000 year they currently pay truckers... probably more like $50 000 year in value creation. If they charge just half of that they bring in 25k year per truck ($25B per year for 100k trucks) which would seem like a no-brainer deal for buyers.
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2019-05-03 20:19:49
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Because people are scared of Full Self Driving cars...and even more scared of 80 000lb self driving trucks
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2019-05-03 20:21:32
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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The new return policy could lead to a bunch of discounted Model 3 returns put back up for sale.
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I have a feeling at the $35K price point a lot of non-tech savy older ICE driving impulse buyers will pull the trigger. Will they really get used to and be able to accept zero dashboard buttons everything controlled by a touchscreen and having to plug-in all the time? With the new return policy you have 7 days 1 000 miles to return your car for a refund if you haven t taken a test drive. This potentially opens up a great opportunity for those of us hoping to get a Model 3 for even less than the $35K new price as a ton of returns come pouring in and Tesla discounts them. The returns should still qualify for any tax credits and state local rebates since Tesla only accepts returns that: Has not been the subject of any submission or application for any available incentives or perks https: www.tesla.com support tesla-return-policy?redirect=no I suppose Tesla could use the returns as demos and loaners but will they really need that many? Or is Tesla hoping barely anyone has buyer s remorse?? Will we be able to pick up a barely used Model 3 at a bargain price in the near future as the poor Luddites flood the market with returns? Thoughts?
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2019-03-01 05:54:22
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They already had a return policy and I m willing to bet practically nobody used it unless there was something physically wrong with the car. Expanding to 7 days is generous but other car manufacturers have similar programs and they re not often used. You wouldn t go through the effort of applying for a loan and configuring buying a car unless you were pretty sure you wanted it.
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2019-03-01 06:04:39
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Tesla Daily Discussion - September 06 2018
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[We re trying something out](https: reddit.com r teslamotors comments 92gied meta_daily_vs_monthly_megathreads ). Use this daily thread for questions and answers general daily topic discussion and sharing your experiences (sightings orders deliveries custom vehicles vanity plates and now memes). [Use this format](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 93xpx4 tesla_daily_discussion_august_02_2018 e3grqk5 ) to share your order details. Find our latest Discussions [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Discussion%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). Share your Ideas and Feedback in our monthly megathread [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors search?q=author%3AAutoModerator+title%3A%22Idea%2FFeedback+Megathread%22& restrict_sr=on& include_over_18=on& sort=new& t=all). See the most recent OTA Software Megathreads [here](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors wiki softwareupdates). And finally remember to be friendly [genuine](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 8rc3jg be_genuine ) and welcoming. Please ping the mods with feedback and remember to report comments and posts that violate rules.
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2018-09-06 09:12:35
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Finally got a chance to actually drive a Model 3 today. Holy shit. I get it now.
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2018-09-06 17:14:05
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Youth of Tesla
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Another quick little story. A friend of mine and her two kids drop by to see the Model 3. The kids are amazed that they get to see a Tesla up close. Show them all the details of the car (as many as I could) and they love that its electric....no gas needed mommy . They crawl in and out of the car asking all sorts of questions. Wanting to know all about the car and in some cases knowing the answers to their own questions. They pulled up in a new Audi A4 . A car that I would have LOVED to have had only a few short years ago. Hell those cars are what we all wanted. German engineering. Did it get any better? Nope. I asked them if they could have any car BMW their Audi Mercedes ....what would they want. absolutely the Tesla They were 7 and 9 years old. I hope Tesla has paved the way to the future. Well done Elon and Team.
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2018-08-09 12:02:27
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The kids get it. Because Tesla gets them. Driving around in a Model 3 most adults don t even know what it is. But the kids get excited point tug at their parents arms excitedly. That s the reason I point to when people try to tell me why Tesla will fail. The future is theirs.
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2018-08-09 12:10:26
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Model X seat dimensions inquiry
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To any current Model X owners: (Also posted in the sub ModelX) I am on the reservation list for a model X in Canada but have one big fear considering I ve only ever driven a model s once on a test drive and can t find any interior dimensions anywhere. I m a pretty big guy so when it comes to car shopping or renting cars I don t even look at the smaller cars. The biggest problem I have is the when the side console of the door digs into my leg and I m very uncomfortable driving. Most cars have the window controls and an oversized pocket within the door which is usually the culprit. I currently drive a 2012 Toyota Camry SE. Can anyone please give me measurements of the driver s seat? Just the seat as well as the measurement of space from the widest part of the door to the center console. Any help would greatly be appreciated! This will help ease my anxiety so much. I m excited to finally get my hands on it. I ve been waiting almost 2 years for this car. I m getting antsy! I call Tesla Motors almost every 10 days to see if there s one in Canada to test drive yet. Thanks in advance! Eeeeeeeeeeeee I m so excited for this car!
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2016-01-27 21:43:49
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There are a bunch of specifications here which might help in comparing to other cars: https: www.teslamotors.com support model-x-specifications
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2016-01-28 02:35:47
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Model 3 Seat Impressions
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Model Y Fears And Should I Wait to Order?
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Hey all My wife and I are looking to move from a BMW 3 Series to an SUV and we test drove quite a few things. Her car is starting to have some issues- nothing huge but I don t want to be stuck in it when we re getting rid of it soon regardless. We test drove an RDX a Q5 and SQ5 an Edge Sport and a Model 3 (because no Ys to test in our area). The 3 was the most fun definitely but my wife definitely wants an SUV. So that said the Y is definitely the leader of the pack. But I have some fears. 1. The fit and finish people talk about being an issue. Though I hear early Model Ys aren t seeing the same degree of issues regarding that as the 3s were? 2. Future updates or price decreases. I ve seen it mentioned- probably rightly- that Tesla has always improved their vehicles after the first few months (and sometimes dropped prices?) and that in Elon s last earnings call he already talked about changing the underbody casing from a 2 piece cast to 1 and that would improve the noise vibration and harshness. 3. Some of the stories people have shared in the reddit about service issues scare me a bit too. But that may just be anecdotal evidence and its no worse than any other vehicle s service? I do think Model Y will be the way we go but we ve never spent this much on a vehicle either so I m a bit nervous about those things. I don t want to spend that much on a car and be disappointed because there is some noticeable imperfection or I didn t wait a few extra months- though who knows if when physical or price updates would come. I do want to get rid of my wife s car but it s pretty plausible with a pandemic still going on that it won t have to drive much for a few months. Just hoping to get people s thoughts on those issues and if they are worth being concerned about.
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2020-06-03 14:26:42
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I moved from a BMW 3 to a model Y. Took delivery early April probably one of the first batches of Y in my city. 1. the fit and finish is much worse compared to BMW. My frunk is so miss-aligned that it looks like it s been in an accident. Rear trunk sometimes doesn t latch charge port sometimes refuses to open. one of the door is miss-aligned a different door s weather seal isn t installed correctly and pops out. Panel isn t aligned on the front quarter panel. Something slides across the car when I take sharp turns. 2 windows no longer auto roll up or down. Steering wheel isn t centered. I m pretty sure the wheels needs to be balanced (vibration at high speed). There are probably more issues but I ll have to look in the Tesla app to see what s waiting to be serviced. 2. Initially I just wanted to get the charge port looked at because I know the rest of the issue will require the car to be at the shop and I didn t want to do that because of Covid-19. Mobile service was great they came out swapped out a control unit for the charge port. But because the way the hatch is designed the guy accidentally pushed the hatch into my garage door and left a paint chip. It s not a big deal sucks on a brand new car but he said Tesla will fix it. Unfortunately the charge door still malfunctions occasionally. 3. Which brings us to service at the Tesla service center. With all the issues piling on 2 weeks ago I scheduled an appointment. A week later after I arrived for my service they informed me that they couldn t do everything at that location and I d have to bring my car to another service center to get the rest taken care of and oh they don t have loaners for me. I said fine since I have to go to the other location just reschedule me there but please give me a loaner. They guy I talked to was very nice said sure no problem found a date with lots of availability and scheduled me first thing in the morning since loaners are first come first serve. He also added a note to request a loaner. Well that appointment was for tomorrow. I just got a text saying that because they re getting more appointments they re pushing me back another 2 weeks and oh they dont have a loaner for me tomorrow anyways. Take what you want from my experience. It s one data point out of many. Would I still buy the Y? Yes absolutely but damn I d wait a few months or a year for them to get their bugs out. It s an awesome car but if these things bother you minimize your chance of being irritated by waiting a bit. Edit: I should add because of the no contact service they re doing they can t do a ride-along. They emailed me a form and asked for videos and pictures for the rattles and such. I thought that s brilliant. Except they asked for that the day before the original service date. Then cautioned that if I don t provide the info my service appoint might be moved. I have a baby so I my time isn t as free as I like (and why I strongly prefers having a loaner vs. uber credits). I allocated the time recorded detail videos then got a text saying they re ordering parts proactively they re moving me back to a later date. I mean fine what ever to make the service as smooth as possible. Then I show up at the rescheduled appointment and the person I talked to have no idea what I was about the video. I mean come on.... I know none of these issues regarding service is anyone s fault. If anything they are doing their best. But these multiple reschedules and having to look at the lopsided smile of my Y just puts a damper on new car ownership.
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2020-06-03 15:59:21
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Tesla Model 3 Ownership Experiences
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Tesla battery video now MIA?
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The quick video Telsa posted last week looks to be gone. ( the battery production at the gigafactory) I ve looked everywhere for it but it is no longer on tesla s twitter or Facebook page. Can someone link it here? Otherwise if it has gone whats the reason?
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2017-01-07 10:49:30
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Maybe some confidential data show A copy still in YouTube https: youtu.be F5JgiJK6lcc
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2017-01-07 12:05:48
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Feature request: open Tesla cars to 3rd party apps
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I know we spoke about 3rd party apps before. But it think a Tesla App Store would be useful for more than just gaming: where I live we have iPhone apps that do the parking meter payments for you. It would be so awesome to be prompted by the car if you want to start parking in these areas and also if the car ends parking automatically when you leave your parking spot. I think that a lot of professionals would also like to integrate fleet management dispatch time tracking with cars. And think of the rental car applications... So a Tesla App Store would be fantastic :)
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2019-05-31 18:22:10
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This is where I hope it s going. You can see that they left some room in there for expansion. The old Model S and X software used to have Apps and now we have the little app tray where the browser is and such. Having all of this infrastructure and frameworks requires oversight though.
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2019-05-31 18:36:33
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Bestla Tesla Companion App
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Has a midnight silver Model 3 been spotted yet?
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The curiosity is strong...
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2017-06-18 18:33:47
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https: goo.gl photos FPbDudMuYJNSMjtL7 Not yet maybe it will be part of the expansions after the new year. Release Candidates: Silver Black White Red Signature Red and Blue. Alphas: Mulit-Coat(?) Silver Signature Red and Matte Black Please correct me if I m missing anything.
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2017-06-18 19:41:48
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Model 3 windscreen wipers
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I have noticed on the left hand stalk there are 2 wiper options. Wash and single wipe indicated by the 2 icons on front of the stalk for the button on the end of the stalk. We can assume the wipers will be automatic like the rest of the range but what about the sensitivity and high low speeds. I know the Model S has 4 settings on the stalk. I think maybe they ll be in the car settings on the screen. Thoughts? See this as an example (some zoomeage required) : https: m.imgur.com nYwmKyJ.jpg
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2017-07-20 18:52:39
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I think you have it all right. LEFT STALK: * up: Right turn signal * down: Left turn signal * pull: Brights flash * push: brights on * button press: single swipe * button hold: washing fluid with wipers RIGHT STALK: * up down: Driving mode: R N D AP * pull: n a * push: n a * button press: Park * button hold: n a edit: Spin? I don t think either stalk can spin. Photos [here](https: photos.google.com share AF1QipP2I8ZIIzlldnvpNzH5OZm2WJV7vDa9kP7MtD-aQaL19bb51wSRwfIrHf3AwzuQ-g photo AF1QipNfzYofQWd8dlZzptiviiDxHFeNGRjMvfozfWU8?key=Q2xNd09Wam91b29IZVJNNDFBeFYyYktpcFJPbVln) and [here](https: i.imgur.com nYwmKyJ.jpg) are both showing me no hat on the edge [like other wiper stalks have](https: www.google.com search?q=wiper+stalk& source=lnms& tbm=isch) for spinning.
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2017-07-20 19:12:54
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Tesla Model 3 Wiper Concerns
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Picking up a Model S on Friday - what should I be looking for?
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Long time lurker first post though. I have an appointment Friday afternoon to pick up my AP2 S60 at the nearest service center. I know people have warned in the past about cars delivered near the end of the quarter not being as high of quality on the finishes as they should be so what should I be looking for? I found this [link](http: nickjhowe.com tesla modelsguide.html) with some good things to look for when picking it up but it s dated and I m looking for some advice from people who have picked up cars recently - any issues you ve seen that I might want to make sure to take an extra couple minutes to look over. Specs: * S60 (got in before the price increase) * Red MC paint * Pano roof * Enhanced AP (no FSD) * Premium Package * Cold Weather Package * Black Next-Gen Seats * Dark Ash Trim Thanks in advance everyone!
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2016-12-20 21:25:08
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This is from June: http: fealey.co.uk tesla things-to-check-when-you-pick-up-your-tesla 577
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2016-12-20 21:57:45
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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I want Hal 9000 models
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Electrek: Tesla will have a KITT-like artificial intelligence in its vehicles says Elon Musk. https: electrek.co 2018 07 29 tesla-kitt-like-artificial-intelligence-elon-musk
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2018-07-30 03:39:09
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“Hal open the driver side door.” “I m afraid I can t do that Dave.” Yeah sounds great.
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2018-07-30 03:41:07
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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How is range affected by 5 people in the car?
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The model S 85 has an EPA range of 265 miles. With A C running and the car loaded with 5 people what can you expect the average range to be? Also what has the biggest negative impact on range? Extra weight A C seat warmers? Are there any websites that have done any performance benchmarking tests for these kinds of issues?
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2015-03-26 00:57:36
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The car weighs nearly 4 647lbs. I suspect with all seats filled range impact will be negligible. The HVAC is by far the biggest common hit to range. Seat warmers take very little power - and are your best means to efficiently heat the cabin occupants. The Tesla range tool will point out some of the differences in configurations but not in their use (such as occupancy bike rack etc): http: my.teslamotors.com goelectric#range
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2015-03-26 01:18:56
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Can model 3 remind us if we leave our phone plugged into the car?
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Would be nice for all teslas but especially the model 3 since it is the key sometimes I leave the phone dock cover closed and forget my phone is there! My 04 civic beeped at me if the doors were open and the headlights were still on why can t the model 3 do the same but for the phone?
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2019-03-29 13:54:26
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I just make a habit of checking my pockets when I leave the house or car. Sure I look like I m doing the macarena but it works better than automation. HEY MACARENA!
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2019-03-29 14:51:10
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Model 3 phone key issues
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One feature your Tesla has that you cannot live without in your next car
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Now having my Model 3 for nearly 3 years there are a ton of features (big and small) that absolutely make the ownership experience different that most cars. Autopilot updates no gas stations ease of charging... just tons of unique features. I believe the feature I enjoy the most (that I didn t have before in previous cars) is one pedal driving with auto hold braking at stop lights and stop signs. I don t think I could ever go back to anything else and one of the many reasons I refuse to drive my wife s car anymore. I m wondering what everybody else thinks is the one feature they can t live without?
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2021-03-11 17:30:05
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Phone as key and just getting in and out without having to turn it on and off feels super unique. Especially since it is silent. Can t have that with an ICE
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2021-03-11 17:33:18
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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[Discussion] Anyone with a model 3 in the San Antonio area willing to help with a proposal?
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I got a well paying job over the summer and I ve been joking with my girlfriend of 3 years that now I can finally afford a model 3. We both love Tesla: we constantly take pictures and let each other know when we spot one in the wild and we hope to purchase a model 3 one day....but we also both agree that buying one at this point in our lives (still both in college) would be a stupid decision. She thinks I m using my job money to buy an engagement ring which is exactly what I ve already done. I m planning on proposing on July 4th at a cookout with my family and hers in attendance. I d love to have a model 3 “delivered” to the cookout only to propose to her by finding the engagement ring box in the glove compartment during my “inspection.” If this isn t the right place to ask this please direct me where. I m also willing to work out some sort of payment for helping me with this.
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2018-06-10 17:40:56
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Congrats! Just as an option you could rent one using Turo.
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2018-06-10 17:47:04
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Miscellaneous Tesla Topic
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Solar Customer - Can t Get Consumption Data
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I have Solar City Panels (now Tesla) and my solar city app does not show consumption data (never has) just current solar production. Do you know how I can enable this feature?
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2018-07-02 19:36:34
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I had this problem if you have an old enough SolarCity install they didn t put in the CT clamps that measure usage. I only got usage when I got my powerwall system that had it. I had this installed instead of using the solar city ones. love it. [sense home monitor](https: sense.com product.html)
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2018-07-02 19:38:38
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Issues with Tesla Energy Installation
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If you think superchargers look cool
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Going to start a little stockpile of images at this new subreddit. Hopefully can build it up to a large collection over time. Feel free to subscribe: http: www.reddit.com r superchargers
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2014-12-22 08:02:08
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Very cool I ll try to get a picture of the superchargers close to me if I can. One recommendation: put the location of the supercharger in each title so we can figure out which ones we still don t have a picture of.
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2014-12-22 10:29:20
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Tesla Supercharger Road Trips
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