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2kwd0k | Delivery yesterday! My experience tips and a pic of course! | It s finally here! Delivery yesterday of my beautiful green S60. To start: 1) Ordering * See my ordering post [here](http: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 26h99b ordered_a_green_beauty_couldnt_wait_around_for ) for info on my options. I actually added pano roof after this because the wife wanted it so bad. I ordered end of May and requested Oct 25th-Nov 1st delivery. At one point it was pushed to Late November then just November - but they picked up the factory speed and it was only 5 days after my initial request. Final note: they changed me over to the new tech package with the new hardware and since I had bought fog lights and parking sensors my price was actually reduced by $500 right before delivery. 2) Financing: * I went with AlliantCU. I applied to at least 5 different credit unions including those recommended by Tesla and my own local branch. Alliant was the easiest to deal with and gave me the exact amount I requested. They also had the lowest rate offered to me (2.24%). I highly recommend talking to Scott Meyer over there if you are buying or planning to buy. 3) Insurance: * Went with State Farm since I have other policies with them (house other car etc) and the discount bundled came out to the same price as Geico. If I hadn t bundled everything Geico would be the cheapest option. I was tempted to go through Costco because they have new car replacement for the first 18mo but of course that cost more. 4) Charging * Car is plugged into a 10-30 outlet now pulling 18 miles per hour. Electrician is coming to give me a quote on the 14-50 installation. As long as my sub panel can support it it ll cost around $500-$650. The reason the price is higher is because I ve asked them to wire it with 100a line so I can upgrade to HPWC in the future. 5) Paint protection: * I got the paint armor option. Can t really see it unless you look from the side and see the line on the hood bumper. Apparently they stopped giving this option because they don t want to be responsible for the clear film and not everyone likes the line on the hood. * I have someone coming tomorrow to put on Opti-Coat or Cquartz (havent decided yet). He said Opti-Coat is a little more expensive (ie $500-$650 depending on paint correction) because it has a 5 year warranty while Cquartz only has a 2 year warranty. Both are essentially the same thing but Cquartz looks a little more glossy. 6) Delivery: * Everyone was friendly and helpful. Even though the wife and I had watched every walk-through video and had memorized the delivery checklist they were very thorough in going through everything. They had a nice little setup when we walked it that said [dieabetic] - welcome to the Tesla family! with a hat the keys fob covers bag pens etc. I also bought the $50 tire repair kit which is a can of sealant and a compressor that plugs into car s 12v outlet. 7) The car! * Lots of fun of course. [Here is a pic](http: imgur.com 61LxNBu) near my buddy s house before I took him for a ride. Everyone gets the smile and giggles once you accelerate. * Speed Assist: You can set it to flash the speed on your front screen or chime at you. I set it to the the front screen and told it to alert me if I go 5 mph over. It popped up a bunch last night so I ll probably set it to 10mph over haha. * Lane departure warning: the first time the steeling wheel vibrated and made a little noise it freaked me out. I thought there was something wrong with a tire. No way I ll set it to chime because they will be annoying. It vibrates the steering wheel (and the vibration makes a noise) when you are going out of your lane or put on turn signal and someone is there. * Parking sensors: cool but again no way I ll set it to chime. It just shows up on my front screen. Distance is pretty accurate. * Homelink: cool feature. It now knows where my home and work are and can open either gate. When I left my house this morning another message popped up asking if I was going to work and it told me it found a route that is 8 mins faster. I don t need navigation to work but it was cool to see. * Media: love the variety. Can also hook up phone USB drive etc. Wife and I are already fighting over what to play. I love that when I walk up to car it unlocks opens doors and starts playing my music. * New stuff: we got the upgraded larger visors with mirrors on both sides! Seats feel different than the test drive as well. * Other tech (I m lazy): everything is very nice. Climate control separate for two sides heated front seats helps with the wife s back issues pano roof is awesome frunk amazes everyone etc etc. 8) Recommendations for future buyers: * If this is going to be your first new car (like me) build your credit! Even if you dont NEED to get an auto loan just get one and pay it off quick so you have that on your credit record. Several credit unions denied me (or gave much less $$$) because I didnt have auto loan history on my record. Also the cutoff for the best interest rates is 740-780+. Anything below that and you are looking at 3-4% rather than 1-2%. Keep your credit utilization below 30% of balance. Pay on time. I used CreditKarma and Experian to monitor my credit. I found most credit unions use Experian for determining the auto loans. * Save up enough for your downpayment AND the taxes. Many forget the taxes and fees are another ~10% - at least here in CA. * Delivery dates are flexible. They are not set in stone. I tried to set mine for exactly Oct 25th a few months ago - but they can t promise that. Be patient with the Delivery Specialists and your Owner Advisor. * Shop around for the best rates on insurance electricians detailers etc. Some insurance and electrician quotes were twice what others gave. * Don t get too involved with the TM TMC forums. You ll see old posts about pano roof issues alignment etc etc that will make you second guess your options. The newest cars do not have as many issues as the older ones * Order ASAP! This thing is amazing. Don t wait around for new features or get worried about new releases. DS told me they all felt bad about the situation with the new hardware coming out before the announcement. They weren t sure what to say to new owners. I think they will handle those situations differently in the future. Finally a special thanks to Scott Johnson at the Topanga store as well as Justin Jason Bridget with the Van Nuys team. Also thanks to all the TSLA investors that drove up the price on my stock so I could purchase this car :-) Cheers. Hit me up with any questions | dieabetic | 2014-10-31 16:49:04 | 53 | clpb30r | Great post. Very thorough. It almost makes me want to bite the bullet and place an order! | FredTesla | 2014-10-31 17:12:32 | 16 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6noiln | Demand for Model Y | I ve heard Elon say demand for the Model Y will be greater than that for the Model 3. What warrants this? | futianze | 2017-07-16 20:40:03 | 64 | dkazs2i | Cross over and suv sales have been higher than sedan sales for the past few years and is expected to stay that way. Therefore the y will have more demand | xkw1 | 2017-07-16 20:48:10 | 98 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
aranx3 | Demand slowdown | I keep seeing posts articles interviews all citing a slowdown of deliveries. All mostly FUD. “Elon is having trouble selling his cars so he has to start selling them overseas.” No the plan was to begin selling model 3 s internationally from the start. Not only this but people don t appreciate the power of word of mouth. While all of us on here are invested in the company and the mission and know a ton about Tesla there are still people around the globe who hardly know what a Tesla is. If anything I think demand is going to continue to surge. | kurthepilot | 2019-02-16 17:05:07 | 13 | eglwm27 | We have let all our friends and family members take our car for a spin and every single one of them wants one when they get a new car. Just media drivel. | 3lfk1ng | 2019-02-16 17:40:44 | 26 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
acwatp | Demo video in car | I was dropping something off today and someone came up to talk about my car. I thought it would be great if there was a short demo video loaded as an Easter egg that you could play for people when they ask. It would mean (if you are willing) people could sit in the drivers seat see how amazing the controls experience is then see a short demo of what he cars can do. Anyone else think that would work? | An_aussie_in_ct | 2019-01-05 17:47:42 | 61 | edbwisg | I want a voice command where I say “(my cars name) introduce yourself”... and it talks back with a nice voice and says hi to passengers gives a run down of its specs showcase unique features like the roof how fast 0-60 being all electric how it can supercharge talk about its AI self driving capabilities throw in some stats on autonomous miles driven summarize who built her and how the owner of the company makes rockets and tunnels too. You know similar to how KITT talked to Michael all the time. | mavantix | 2019-01-05 21:39:42 | 56 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
frs00a | Denmark: got free Tesla mudflaps shipped directly from China | Got a weird package tracking SMS then email from UPS. Was ready to deny upon delivery. Turns out guy just left it at front door without knocking so next time we went out there was a case of the Tesla mudflaps. Didn t order this so it s likely a northern Europe thing rolling out for free. Little late for winter and not the best flaps in market but temped when free. And there is a clear mud issue in rainy winter coastal regions. Neat to get from Tesla just in time for my 3. Week home - we haven t even bothered to change to summer tires yet with this low milage we are getting. April 2019 LR AWD FSD model 3 in Denmark. | RPlasticPirate | 2020-03-30 14:41:19 | 515 | flxbsca | Hassle to install and if you go for both they will almost scrape the road. Installed in January an had to cut 2 cm off it. | FlatRice0 | 2020-03-30 14:48:43 | 91 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
amajf8 | Denver Littleton service got proactive with me today. | I know there s gonna be a lot of This isn t news this is how they SHOULD be - but we know there s been a lot of service problems lately.. At delivery I noted some alignment problems with photos and received no acknowledgement since. I ordered the Enhanced Security module and also hadn t received any word in weeks. Sent a few messages to see if the photos had been received and trying to get status on the security module... Today completely out of the blue the Littleton service center reached out to me about both my due bill from delivery (trunk alignment issues) and the wait on my Enhanced Security system install. In the period of an hour they actually called me 3 times on follow-up to make sure they had everything ready and in order went over the issues I needed addressed and I ll be taking my car in to get it all done the week after next. (delay mine on that not theirs I m out next week.) They mentioned that they were overwhelmed with end of the year issues but feel like they can get all of these outstanding issues addressed now. That they ve partnered with more body shops in the last few months too to decrease the wait and also mentioned that they just re-opened the Evans service center and I believe one near Boulder is opening soon too. I guess the point is I was really dreading taking my car in for this work to be done and it still may not go smoothly - but the fact that they reached out on their own and followed up and made sure everything was ready to be addressed is at least something. Maybe a good sign... So maybe Tesla really is starting to focus on getting service into a better state now. I ll report how it goes but I was surprised that they went out of their way to reach out and make sure everything was ready to go. | michidragon | 2019-02-02 04:03:00 | 16 | eflgiw2 | On the flip side of this I ve been waiting several months for a broken part only to find out Littleton accidentally cancelled the order and the part has to be reordered. | zHTech | 2019-02-02 15:36:59 | 6 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
blt39x | Denver door ding repair | https: imgur.com a 2dY424p Got this door ding at a home depot. The ONE time I didn t park far away because it was my 5th time at home depot that day and I was frustrated. Ugh. Does anyone know a good mobile PDR company that can get this fixed? I m super bummed about it. Edit: I got insurance involved and I am now taking it to a body shop. I have also lost all faith in humanity. | shep444 | 2019-05-07 16:54:13 | 11 | emr53qo | Here s mine: https: imgur.com g5FrU7F The pearl white multi-coat is hard to touch up so I suspect it ll never be the same unless I get the entire door repainted. | TrevCostales | 2019-05-07 16:58:01 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
alebdl | Department of Energy commits $20.5M to spark lithium-ion battery recycling | Department of Energy commits $20.5M to spark lithium-ion battery recycling By Cole Rosengren Published Jan. 22 2019 • POST • TWEE Dive Brief: The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) recently announced plans for a $20.5 million investment in lithium-ion battery recycling with the goal of boosting capture rates to 90% from a current rate of less than 5%. • These investments include $15 million to create a new Lithium Battery R& D Recycling Center in partnership with Argonne National Laboratory the National Renewable Energy Laboratory and Oak Ridge National Laboratory. • The remaining $5.5 million will be used as prize money in a contest seeking solutions to collecting storing and transporting discarded lithium-ion batteries for eventual recycling. According to DOE the contest will be designed to accelerate the development of solutions from concept to prototype to demonstration. • Dive Insight: This announcement came from DOE Secretary Rick Perry at the Bipartisan Policy Center s American Energy Innovation Council event in Washington D.C. last week. It aligns with previously stated Trump administration priorities outlined in a 2017 executive order that repeatedly emphasized the value of boosting recycling and reprocessing of critical minerals. Lithium and cobalt key resources in batteries were also added to a list of critical minerals last year. “Our goal is to reclaim and recycle critical materials from lithium-based battery technology that s widely used across our society. We aim to reduce our dependence on foreign sources of this material by encouraging entrepreneurs to capture up to 90% of America s lithium-based battery technology. This would strengthen our energy security expand our economic security and bolster national security said Perry during the event. Both sales and potency of batteries are expected to rise in the coming years as they become more prevalent in electric vehicles personal electronics and other products. This demand has yielded growing attention from companies and governments alike. Last year China launched a battery recycling pilot in 17 cities and regions and began working on new policies to support further growth. In the U.S. Tesla claims to have found ways to reduce its use of cobalt — an expensive imported mineral — to almost nothing in electric vehicle batteries. This week Toyota and Panasonic announced their own joint venture to research and manufacture vehicle batteries. Despite all this global interest lithium battery recycling is generally seen as an expensive option in the U.S. Companies such as Battery Resourcers in Massachusetts are actively working to change that but the market is still growing. This stands in contrast with lead-acid batteries which have an estimated 99% recovery rate and are banned from disposal under federal regulations. Only one state currently requires recycling for all lithium batteries and two require it for lithium-ion. The DOE s press release specifies the goal is developing technologies that can profitably hit a 90% capture rate indicating that a market-driven solution is preferable to a regulatory one. Regardless of the approach any significant progress in expanding recycling solutions would be a boon for the waste and recycling industry. Beyond vehicles lithium-ion batteries are also a rapidly growing part of the e-waste stream and have been linked in recent years to numerous fires when improperly sent to MRF | 3lakeadams | 2019-01-30 16:22:30 | 66 | efdn2ny | To be clear currently 5% is the amount of batteries recycled not the amount recovered per battery. This is because most of the batteries are small (from laptops). This picture will change when more car batteries are recycled. | duke_of_alinor | 2019-01-30 18:36:41 | 15 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
fhe28e | Departure Charge shows when it will start on iPhones | I noticed the other day when I was swiping through my iphone screens and reached the main iphone notifications screen it showed the Departure time along with when it would start charging. Departure was set for 630am and the notification showed it along with a Start charging time of 1:30am. Maybe tonight I ll play around with the departure time and see if it changes the Start time. Be interesting to see what happens. Be curious to know if temp changes it also I don t think I ll stay up through the night to see if it changes as temps increase or decrease in the garage. Anyone else notice it on their iPhone? It s not in the tesla app it s part of the iPhone notifications. https: preview.redd.it h235hh3289m41.png?width=875& format=png& auto=webp& s=738c6559d8ae1bcd5802d4ffc4b3e8ada597b7d1 | GoTesla | 2020-03-12 10:11:19 | 15 | fkatcw8 | Is this widgets? The Tesla widget shows all sorts of helpful information. | hb7318 | 2020-03-12 13:16:20 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
fd0l7k | Deposit for a Model 3 or Model Y financing dropped | Looks like due to interest rate drop (down to 3.5% for financing) the deposit for a loan on a Model 3 or Model Y has dropped from $7 500 to $4 500. I m hoping these interest rates hold up and the seven seater Model Y availability moves up to late 2020. Edit: Probably not due to the interest rate drop. I didn t realize the interest rate had dropped previously. It s possible they just changed the suggested deposit for their proposed loan structure to encourage sales? | Sudsington | 2020-03-03 20:08:13 | 13 | fje6wlq | You should probably double check that 7 seater space. It is twight! | hoppeeness | 2020-03-03 20:13:16 | 16 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
e46u01 | Design Change Request: Lighted Charge Port | I ve come to notice with my first winter as a Tesla owner that I am plugging in during darkness more often than not. It would be handy if future versions of the vehicle charge port were to have a lighted ring or an LED directly above it to indicate exactly where the charge port is. Small change for limited situations I realize. Perhaps a reconfiguration of the LED indicator could achieve the same purpose while also indicating the precise location of the charge port so you don t have to drag the end of the charge handle across the plastic plate of the charge port assembly. | SierraSeven | 2019-12-01 00:52:39 | 32 | f9791a3 | They should have just kept the ring around the charge port on the 3 like they have on the S and X. | packet_whisperer | 2019-12-01 01:01:46 | 40 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4ad94c | Design Recommendations for Tesla - Listed Here | I am certain there are Tesla engineers that peek in here from time to time. I thought it would be nice to have a place where Tesla owners could make update upgrade recommendations. So here it is. Please list any updates upgrades you would like to see. They can be upvoted or downvoted by everyone. | syncmaster213 | 2016-03-14 14:18:53 | 10 | d0ze4qp | A couple things that are on the top of my list. BTW we went through this rigmarole back in December and a few top items from the collective list actually made it into 7.1. So yes Tesla does read this and yes Tesla does listen to customers. 1. Auto retract mirrors upon homelink activation of garage open. Hold off auto extend mirrors until homelink activation of garage close. 2. Hotlink artist album text so that pressing them on the media player app either queues a random song or the next numbered track in that artist album when playing songs on random. 3. Auto-close sunroof for rain using wiper sensor. 4. Expanded equilizer in audio settings. At least 5 bands per channel or 10 band over all. Include presets for music type including audiobook as well as custom settings. 5. Ability to NAME usb storage inputs OR read volume label from storage media. Second option is preferred. USB1-6 is confusing especially because overnight they can get changed around when the car reboots. That s it for now. Be forewarned we will be doing a second round of improvement suggestions here Q2 of 2016. Stay tuned. | supratachophobia | 2016-03-14 15:15:28 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2lexsc | Design Studio Update: Green and Brown colors no longer available. P85 gone (thanks u sean_dudley). Other changes? | *edit* I m updating my previous post list [here](http: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 2gdxlz tesla_model_s_price_and_equipment_changes_20132014 ). Please let me know here or there of changes I should make. Thanks! Check the design studio. Also no more paint protection. Looks like I got the last of the green w paint armor! Edit: Also Dual drive on 85D is $5K instead of $4K (also raised in other places). Thanks u sean_dudley again [here](http: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 2levd2 seems_the_p85_is_no_longer_available_only_the clu4d3v) No AWD on S60 anymore u SamusAranX [here](http: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 2levd2 seems_the_p85_is_no_longer_available_only_the clu4kbw) No more performance leather seats for top end models just leather and Next Generation Seats (also leather it appears) to choose from. u N0stradamus No more black roof on other colors u adamsbj | dieabetic | 2014-11-05 22:49:36 | 27 | clu5tw6 | Wow I am glad I ordered when AWD was cheaper. Looks like they are limiting the available options to make manufacturing easier and pushing buyers upmarket. Personally I am surprised to see that they still have December delivery options for S60 S85 P85D models. I bet that Tesla is limiting options so they can switch from specifically built-to-order to customizable-ish that way they can build a some extra common configurations and put them on the boat to Europe or Asia and then sell them to people who place orders while they are in transit. | paulwesterberg | 2014-11-05 23:25:52 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
36w0ue | Design studio now only allows selection of $4500 21 tires for P85D | Really disappointed by this..not only is it extra cost but they wear quicker too and are more expensive every time they need to be replaced. This also basically means you should get smart air suspension due to the less comfortable ride 21 s provide vs 19s... | HelluvaNinjineer | 2015-05-22 16:19:12 | 20 | crhk5m9 | I bet if you called Tesla and asked them over the phone they might let you get a P85D with 19 tires. I seem to recall there being a similar situation with the P85 (non-D) back in the day and some people were still able to get the 19s when they asked for them. | Halfworld | 2015-05-22 16:44:48 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
idb8dq | Desperate to get in touch with anyone from Tesla solar regarding real estate transfer or else morgage will fall through. Help? | Hi there. My husband and I are buying a home with Tesla solar and our mortgage is contingent on us transferring the solar panels into our name. I filled out the real estate transfer form on Friday 8 14 - it said I would hear from somebody within 3-4 days. Have not heard yet. All this week I have been calling their real estate transfer line and have sat on hold for over an hour before being disconnected even their press 1 for emergency closing today line. I called technical support yesterday and even though that person couldn t help she put in an urgent request for someone to call me back...no call back so far. We are due to close on Monday if I don t get this transferred over by tomorrow my mortgage is due to fall through. Can someone please please help? | momopink | 2020-08-20 14:24:49 | 66 | g27swg8 | Good luck! Try Tesla customer support : https: twitter.com elonmusk | Bitcoin1776 | 2020-08-20 14:35:10 | 60 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
hvyg08 | Despite not getting an inventory car in Q2 but opting for a new one off the factory floor Tesla just added 1 year of super charging. | Without me asking I was confused to see after charging my 1000 free miles balance not updating like it usually does. Logged into my account online and my car says it has free charging until next year! Not sure why they decided to do that a month after I bought car car but there you go! Might be worth checking your account if you took delivery at the end of Q2 | Dylan552 | 2020-07-22 17:50:51 | 44 | fyw9lzb | That s amazing! Probably a glitch on Tesla s end though. | timonea | 2020-07-22 18:09:32 | 5 | Issues with Tesla Referral Program |
4z25sl | Destination & Doc Fee | I spoke to a Gallery today about ordering an S60. When building the car online it includes a $1 200 Destination & Doc Fee. The person at the Tesla mentioned that if I ordered today and today being the last day it is available they could waive the $1 200 fee. Is this a real expiring promotion? Or can they waive this fee at any time and this is a sales tactic? | Mpire404 | 2016-08-22 19:01:47 | 25 | d6s8nxy | I test drove a Model S on Saturday and they told me the same thing. The sales guy said they are waiving the destination and doc fee for the next few days in order to increase end of quarter numbers. | kingkondo | 2016-08-22 19:22:23 | 11 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
534zfp | Destination Charger Etiquette What does r teslamotors think? | So I have a small family run business my brother is a huge Tesla fan and owner he helped us get a Wall Charger free from Tesla and we had 100 amp service run to it at our own cost since we wanted to be a destination charger. In the last 2 weeks I ve had a new owner (I know this because its has the new front end and the license plate has Sept stickers.) who has been abusing our destination charger. Last week when I first met this person helping her back her Model S P90 into our lone Tesla parking slot she informed me she was low on miles and needed few miles to get home. Not a problem happens all the time here in the middle of nowhere. Let her charge up asked her if she needed to come inside while she grabed a few miles she said she d just sit in her car. That was last week. Now to the problem. This week at least the last 5 days M-F when I m in the building her Tesla has been parked in our lone charging spot 3 days out of 5. Shes not in it shes never stepped in and talked to any of my employees. There is just her Tesla S just sitting there sipping my power ($) and its not available for anyone in need of actual top up since as of just today its been plugged in for 7+ hours and she has not come to pick it up yet. I haven t been able to catch her as she stops to collect her car this week but this is out of control. I believe I am being taken advantage of I know from that lone 30 second interaction during what I believe was her first visit here that the town she drives to from her home has multiple charging options. So I since I havent been able to catch her to talk it over I ve had to resort to a passive aggressive sign and posted it above our Wall Charger. It reads as follows. * I ve removed what I hope are the identifying info from the sign text so if I m in the wrong I don t bring a $hit storm down on my little family business hope you understand but one can never know how the internet will react. So here s the TEXT * Destination Charging Station We are a destination charger first and foremost we are here for customer use Come in take a tour Enjoy our products Worried about getting over to RESORT TOWN?? No problem stop grab some miles careful driving over the pass Ohh by the way we have a tasting room IN RESORT TOWN HERE S THE ADDRESS Late Night and you really have no idea where you are?? Charge up there s a LOCAL MOTEL about a ¼ mile south on HWY careful walking along the road. What we are NOT is a place for you to charge up every other day for a week when you ve never stepped foot into our building. $10 per day charge if you would like us to fill the hole in your day to day transportation plans So what do you think? I hate to be so mean but there are multiple options for her to charge up in the Resort Town she drives too parking her Model S here deprives us of our ability to offer people some reassurance to any range anxiety they may have trying to get to Resort Town from the closest Super Charger. EDIT: SHE SHOWED UP So she came and got her car a bit ago I also had the local sheriff there talking to me about what to do when she pulled up. Got a sob story about her apparently being split with her husband spouse BF whatever. From the story I think she thought she could just park it there just like it was her own garage. I told her they make a 110V adapter so she can charge at her mothers house who s car she had shown up in. She was pretty clueless about her car in general which I kinda had already know from my first 30 sec interaction. I had already written her a note asking her not to come back unless she had worked something out with us. I don t think she ll be back honestly but all this talk with you guys has me worried as a property owner. What if something happens again and need to remove a vehicle from my property??? I just got off the phone with Tesla roadside assistance and he said that they did not have the option to release the charger lock remotely. So if someone parks their Tesla in my lone spot on the only charger I own for a day or two I can t move the car short of disconnecting the power and demounting the charger from the wall. This bothers me as a destination charging station and property owner. So now my question is what can I do to protect myself as a property owner???? I mean there is the possibility of having a $90K car attached to my building with no recourse but to call not only a Tow truck but also an Electrician to get it removed. | DestinationCRGER | 2016-09-17 00:28:46 | 35 | d7q15gw | They raised a good point.. Put up a sign that says please see the front desk if you wish to use the Destination Charger.. This way you can leave it off and only turn it on when you have actual patrons or emergencies that come in.. When they leave just ask them to let you know and you can kill the switch again. | trinitesla | 2016-09-17 01:03:19 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
udv4mk | Destination Chargers - Any Help Appreciated | My company would like to install Tesla destination chargers. We have several people who own Tesla s and would like to offer this to the employees and the area in general. I have filled out the form on the Tesla website several times and have never gotten a response. I must be doing something incorrectly. Any help from the community or from Tesla would be appreciated. | KBTesla3LR | 2022-04-28 13:34:23 | 49 | i6j9vwb | I think you are better off buying them yourself at this point. The cheapest option might be the Tesla j1772 option. It supports all current EVs (Tesla and otherwise) and is pretty robust despite a fairly low cost. If you want to charge money to offset the cost chargepoint is the most common option. Blink has revenue sharing options with low up front cost but blink is terrible. | Dumbstufflivesherecd | 2022-04-28 14:06:49 | 41 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6lewbp | Detailed concept of the Semi for $150k with a swappable 2MWh battery | There is a technical and economic analysis over at seekinalpha.com about the Tesla semi truck (reveal Sept 28th): https: seekingalpha.com article 4085696-will-tesla-disrupt-long-haul-trucking#alt2 & nbsp I know many of you guys dislike that site me too (sometimes) but this article is really worth a read. & nbsp There is quite some technical depth on how to best integrate the model 3 motors into the axles so that the whole center frame can house the swappable 1 or 2 MWh battery. The range will be up to 1000 miles. The batteries get swapped at special truck hubs near major long haul freeways. Thus it s easy to scale this up. The swappable batteries are handy because they can be charged at night when power is cheap. If they would go with quick charging serious connections and improvements to the grid might be required. This could be reduced with powerpacks as buffer but I still think that swapping is the way to go. & nbsp The best part is this Semi will be cheap only about $150k. The batteries will be rented and there will be swap fee. This model could be 15 cents mile cheaper than running diesel trucks (currently at 80 to 90 cents mile). & nbsp I really recommend reading this it s worth it and will be interesting to compare Teslas strategy to this in September (if they tell us then...). | MaChiMiB | 2017-07-05 15:56:28 | 83 | djtayx0 | Swappable battery hubs will be much easier to roll out than the current superchargers. Tesla semi will be long range so more distance between hubs. Much less Tesla semi s on the road than passenger vehicles so less demand. Swaps will probably be done very quickly so trucks should be in and out as fast as a normal diesel fill up takes. Also Tesla semi will only be 15 cents cheaper per mile? I was hoping for more | specter491 | 2017-07-05 16:26:02 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9gy83e | Detailed specs of the motors in the RWD AWD and AWD-P model 3 cars | Im trying to lookup the detailed specs of the motors in each of these cars and I m finding conflicting information or information that isn t backed up with reputable sources. Looking at the wikipedia specs page https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Tesla_Model_3#Specifications it claims: RWD: 271 hp (202 kW) AWD: 346 hp (258 kW) total 252 hp (188 kW) rear & 197 hp (147 kW) front AWD-P:450 hp (340 kW) total 283 hp (211 kW) rear & 197 hp (147 kW) front All of these numbers differ from what the EPA states: https: www.fueleconomy.gov feg Find.do?action=sbs& id=40385& id=40386& id=39836 EPA states RWD has 211 kW not 202. And if you add up the AWD numbers for each motor that gives you 335kW total which would be 449HP but that doesnt match up with wikipedia states either. The AWD-P numbers also dont line up they should be 358kW supposedly. Does anyone have a good source for what these cars come with and their power output? ~~~~~ Best Dyno results I have found so far: RWD from this great video https: youtu.be G8NaZDIL6sI?t=2m7s thanks u thepolan! https: i.imgur.com YzwChjM.jpg 325HP and 321Lb of Torque shows the different torque and HP depending on the battery charge. | Raider1284 | 2018-09-18 20:01:35 | 59 | e67pqxn | You can t just add them up in this case. Just because one of the motors has a certain power rating doesn t mean that the vehicle can fully utilize it. There are likely other bottlenecks limiting performance (e.g.. inverter battery current draw limits) so that both individual motors would never be at 100% output concurrently. But your overall question is still a valid one.. it d be nice to get authoritative answers on this. What is the effective spec for the *vehicle* in a way that can be meaningfully compared with other cars? | bariaga | 2018-09-18 20:06:12 | 36 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
248tcf | Details on AWD Model S | I have a friend who is an engineer for Tesla. He told me some information about the 2015 model year Model S AWD. The performance version will feature dual motors with a combined output of 800 horsepower along with a 100kWh battery pack. He said that the performance version will be about 100Kg lighter than a normal Model S due to numerous weight saving improvements and a redesigned interior. Tesla s goal is for the AWD Model S Performance to hit 60mph in under 3.0 seconds which would put it in supercar territory. That s pretty much all I got out of the conversation but it sounds like it should be pretty amazing! | OompaOrangeFace | 2014-04-29 02:37:52 | 10 | ch4t2fn | If that is true (which it most likely is since Elon has mentioned before that they are producing an AWD Model X why not an AWD Model S) then that s pretty amazing. Though I love Reddit I need to hear Elon say it before I believe it. He has quite a lot on his plate right now. I am wondering though with the price of the electric car mostly being the battery how much more would another motor cost for an AWD Model S? | delumen | 2014-04-29 04:37:20 | 6 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
dzspzs | Detecting speed limits | I used to have a Model S (autopilot 1) and it would always correctly read speed limits here in the UK even temporary speed restrictions. Now my new model 3 (autopilot 3) NEVER seems to get it right. It just seems to tell me it s either 30mph or 70mph on the motorway. Is this normal? I really CBA to book service. | sozalr | 2019-11-22 00:17:00 | 40 | f89ww94 | You can thank mobileye for their dumbass patent on this. | run-the-joules | 2019-11-22 00:19:02 | 58 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
dm1yu4 | Deteriorating Seals Not Covered Under Warranty - Over $2K repair | I received a quote from Tesla today for the cost to fix the door seals on my falcon wing doors. They are coming apart as you can see [in this album](https: photos.app.goo.gl ToB5dBspW6yZFmAx6). Car is about 2.5 years old. With labor they are estimating $2 362.50 (quote in the album). Am I crazy for thinking this should be covered by warranty? Even if it s not charging over $2k for some seals is normal? I asked Tesla about this and their response was: > As far as the charges the seal damage is not covered under warranty. The seals are damaged from normal wear and this is not considered a manufacture defect. With maintaining consistency with our customer base we are unable to discount or adjust the pricing for these items. I m at a loss as what to do other than not get it fixed. Edit: Received further information from Tesla: The reason we have to replace the whole glass (and center spline if you re concerned about them ) is because the seals do not come separately. They are strictly cosmetic and serve virtually no purpose so if you d like to trim them you are welcome to. If you would like us to replace them I can not replace them under warranty. This sounds plausible but I wonder why they are even there in the first place if they literally serve no purpose beside cosmetics. | courtlandre | 2019-10-23 16:44:08 | 92 | f4vxu4r | in my opinion go to other service center or wait for a few months year if it s not so bad. If more cars will have this issue they might take it more seriously. | Tupcek | 2019-10-23 16:48:42 | 64 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bemeuc | Determining if I should get a Model 3 | So i ll be try to be clear and concise. I live in CA. I have a round trip 120 mile day commute 5 days a week. I can charge from work which would mitigate electricity costs. Assuming a 6 year finance for 600 monthly. My alternatives are Kona EV for 5000 less A hybrid like the Kia Niro averages 50 mpg 4 year 500 monthly Do current Model 3 owners fee this car could old up 10 years driving this much? Sidenote: I currently drive a Ioniq EV on the unlimited lease. Edit: more than convinced! As soon as my lease is over i ll be driving a Model3 with autopilot! Thanks guys! | Bestr2015 | 2019-04-18 14:47:47 | 11 | el6vsq7 | Yes. Autopilot & gas savings alone will improve your life. Getting to work & home way less stressed from the frustrating parts of regular driving the autopilot takes care of. | dwaynereade | 2019-04-18 15:07:53 | 20 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
ff1elj | Detroit - Clarkston Michigan Service Center Now Open | As expected Tesla has started quickly rolling out service centers by using old dealerships in Michigan. From the thread it appears they are setting up lifts and remodeling. Unable to do alignments yet. Likely the first of many service centers to come. [**Clarkston Michigan Service Center Discussion @ Tesla Motors Club**](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads detroit-clarkston-mi-service-center-new.187198 ) Address: > **8105 Big Lake Rd** > > **Clarkston MI 48346** Quote from [TMC username TA Tessie](https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc posts 4534853 ): > This was a Jeep Dealership then a Mobility van company that just closed the end of Feb this last month. | sparx_fast | 2020-03-07 20:57:08 | 71 | fjughcn | Fuck I was hoping for the Farmington Hills one. Dammit. | sGfU_cs | 2020-03-07 21:29:26 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a03syp | Detroit dealership (Somerset collection) | Hey everyone first time poster in this sub. I ve been convincing a family member of getting a model 3 and at this point she s pretty excited and wants to test drive a model 3. The only store near us is in Detroit so the question is does the Detroit (Somerset collection) store have a model 3 in stock and are we able to drive it? Edit: Thank you to all who offered answers and even your own personal vehicles!! We got a test ride and absolutely loved it. This community is absolutely amazing and I can t wait to pay it forward! Final Edit: She pulled the trigger on a white AWD model with autopilot. Thanks again to anyone that helped in any way and is still reading this even though it s a few days old!! | Haydenkmac | 2018-11-25 00:17:14 | 10 | eaecjij | I m close to Detroit send me a PM :) | Remixmark | 2018-11-25 00:33:20 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
h94n3c | Dialing phone number within web browser | The web browser on the Model 3 is super handy for looking up businesses when on the road. But one big problem is I can t hit phone numbers and dial them. Any reason why href=tel links aren t handed off to the dialer? It would be so nice! | touche112 | 2020-06-14 23:50:26 | 21 | fuv4mcq | What I do is: Pinch to zoom the number Press the “voice assistant” button and say “Dial 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... “ | iGoalie | 2020-06-15 03:01:05 | 12 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
5d3r8l | Did smart pre-conditioning ever get smarter? | Like many of you I ve had my car for a few years now and can t even remember when it was that I disabled the smart preconditioning because it was just doing random things at random times. I was thinking of trying it again now that we ve had several software updates since then... but thought I d ask first. I assume many new deliveries arrived with it already active and perhaps it s now a usable function? | TeslaPittsburgh | 2016-11-15 17:27:49 | 19 | da1iw0j | considering my car was blasting the ac at 11pm last night... im gona say no. | jerjozwik | 2016-11-15 17:51:13 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
chlemk | Did Elon just confirm the maxwell dry electrode for their plan to get to terrawatthours per year in battery production? | I mean we already kinda knew that they would utilise the Maxwell tech some time in the future but live at the call i was like that s a classic Elon hint. What yall think? > Transcript: Colin Rusch Can you walk us through the plan for battery sourcing in China? How many -- how much of the supply is going to come from internally produced batteries? How much is coming from externally? And what s your expectation around cost per watt hours as you start to ramp? Elon Musk I don t know if we want to talk about the details of battery supply. We ve got a good handle on. We don t expect to be self constrained in China for the next year I don t know. Drew what do you think? Drew Baglino Yes that s what our plan looks like right now. In terms of internal versus external I think we should wait until we have our discussion early next year. But yes we have agreements in place with -- we re good for next year as you say Elon. Elon Musk I think you probably need to study or reset like Master Plan for Powerplant 3 but it s really like just under three like Battery Day will be kind of national plant tuning which is like okay how do we get from kind of – any-tens of gigawatt hours per year to multiple terawatt hours per year. What s -- **that s a pretty dry scale increase in** -- so yes. Sort of roughly 100 like a 28 gigawatt hours right now well actually there is one where you count the factories in Japan so a little over 30% to 35% or something like that. And how do we get like 2 terawatt hours a year? What would you like? So something increase. Zachary Kirkhorn That s the way you have to think about it because that s what you need to do. Elon Musk Exactly. In order to make fundamental shift in the world s energy usage and really review the sustainable energy future if you re not in the terawatt hour range it s like it s a nice new story but is not fundamentally changing the energy equation. | SyntheticRubber | 2019-07-25 09:25:56 | 55 | euusas3 | > that s a pretty dry scale increase in I m pretty sure Elon said “giant scale increase”:) > you count the factories in Japan so a little over 30% to 35% or something He s talking in GWh not % as the combined output of Panasonic giga+Japan. | space_s3x | 2019-07-25 10:17:04 | 62 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
4ctsvt | Did Elon say 115 000 cars ordered today?! | If so extreme congratulations to him and Tesla. Truly amazing! | appledude9 | 2016-04-01 03:58:31 | 541 | d1ldzpr | 115 001 here | eclypse | 2016-04-01 03:59:04 | 142 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
eormtq | Did FSD just go on sale? Showing $1 300 CAD cheaper in app and on website | Did FSD just go on sale? Showing $1 300 CAD cheaper in app and on website: [https: imgur.com a ETvx4mR](https: imgur.com a ETvx4mR) Someone posted they had a difference in price between the app and the website on another forum. I checked mine and they were both the same but reduced by $1 300 CAD. Did it just go on sale? Is it an anomaly? We aren t end of quarter so maybe it s just a “slow January” adjustment? Seems interesting that generally the word has been that the price would be going up but perhaps they found it was too much and few were buying it? Or perhaps just a fire sale? Does everyone else see this price adjustment? Edit: Grammar | skidz007 | 2020-01-14 21:15:06 | 51 | feenapi | Nope still showing $7K that I m never gonna pay | DWAY22 | 2020-01-14 21:26:53 | 33 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
4txedv | Did HEPA air filter in Tesla make noticeable improvement? | Did HEPA air filter in Tesla make noticeable improvement? Assuming that you rarely activate Bioweapon Defense Mode so I m more interested in how effectively the HEPA air filter performs on a normal basis with just the normal A C on. Particularly if you have allergies (to pollen or dust) do you experience noticeable difference (less sneezing or congestion) in your HEPA-filtered Tesla versus the normal air filters in other automobiles? I just tried a home air purifier with HEPA for the first time last night and had one of the better sleeps in a long time. But still trying to justify if worth getting in Tesla. Thanks for your feedback! | Alexsighted | 2016-07-21 15:02:51 | 20 | d5l32om | Agreed. I work at a Silicon Valley tech company with commute shuttles and those big diesel coaches put out an exhaust fume that s absolutely nauseating. I m sensitive to diesel exhaust. When I lived in England my parents thought I was hopelessly carsick but it turned out it was just to diesels. Once a week I get stuck behind one at a traffic light and the biohazard defense mode eliminates the smell entirely. Even the standard fresh air mode reduces the smell a ton more than my Audi s air filters. It seems like without turning on biohazard mode the air you get is a mix of HEPA filtered and secondary filtered air. I presumed due to noise or efficiency. But either way it s markedly better and if you have sensitivity to anything airborne it will help you in all modes. | chillaban | 2016-07-21 15:59:27 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
74ftms | Did I buy (X100D) a lemon? New and stuck. | First as disclosure I love my new Model X. I m an owner investor model 3 reservation holder. I took ownership of a X100D 72hrs ago. I ve barely driven the vehicle and the odometer is at 160km. In the first 48hrs of ownership things started going sideways and I hope it s not indicative of the future ahead! But as of this morning less than 72hrs into owning this car.. it s stuck in my garage! Day 1: On delivery. * The 2nd and 3rd row seats left side fail to recline. Motor needs replacing. * The front bumper is misaligned (top of bumper is flush with bottom of RH headlight but sticks out 1 4 on LH side) * Car advises it s scheduled for an update overnight. ( delivered with 2017.32.17 722130c ) Day 2: * AM. Vehicle notification Software update failed. contact service. (ok!) Call Tesla service they say the update will reschedule itself later. nothing wrong. * Try to drive car later in the day. Car is slow to start. Green warning (systems powering up please wait...) .. have to check periodically by pressing the brakes that I can start using the car * In the afternoon take car for a ride. GPS & Maps work but Navigation is dead stuck on initializing : https: i.imgur.com xovWFoW.jpg * Soon after radio goes dead. * Chimes stop working (blinker notifications) * while returning home stuck in traffic. Service Notification comes on: https: i.imgur.com xaO5uzg.jpg * Still stuck in stop & go traffic. The car starts going into P ark whenever I have to come to a stop. The first time it happened I thought I somehow misapplied the shifter button took me a few seconds to realize what was happening as I was in traffic car wouldn t move forward.. put it back in D and got going with the traffic but it started happening everytime I had to come to a stop in rush hour traffic. At one point traffic was pretty heavy so I was able to film it happening before having get going again: https: www.amazon.com photos share 16Ez7twJttpStSRUFomR3Z4xtKur6kpPUlplye5DDGo * Whenever the car would go in P the door opening GUI would come on and the CLOSE ALL button would flash on at a rapid rate as if a door was open but none were. * Called the service manager the car wasn t responding to network requests (though LTE worked maps work traffic overlay etc anything requiring data). And he was super helpful to get me to drive the car back to the service location that s near my place. * Get to the Service Center. Everyone is super nice & friendly they really do a super job... * Take a look at logs and my trip log to the service center is not recorded or present. (teslafi data shows the same thing car went from one location to appear at another). * Two button reset doesn t change the situation. CPUs stuck at 170% load car unresponsive. A full car reset is performed. Car works again! (need to reprogram settings!) * Drive home car is awaiting software update (Same one as on delivery day). Car fails update overnight. I go check the car: * Stability Control disabled. Contact Tesla Service . I call the Service Center and they book me for the morning arrange a loaner etc. Again excellent service! This morning: * Get in the car to this: https: i.imgur.com cNR3uCt.jpg Parking Brake Need Service Car May Be Free Rolling . However the opposite is true. The car is in my garage (tight) and parking brake is stuck engaged the car won t move going to D or R puts it back in P. It s really stuck (was able to get into R and apply a little bit of power and the car rocks like the parking brake is on). Can t get the kids to school! * Call Tesla Service loaner is being brought over. My overall impression of the Service Center and its staff is very good. They are taking care of me at every opportunity and are some of the most professional team I ve had to interact with in the car business (Up there with the Lexus service teams). My worry is that in the initial 48hrs of ownership my car has experienced multiple failures that seem unrelated. From the initial software update failure to now having a car stuck in my garage throwing a bunch of errors it s been a steep and rapid decline! So I m starting to worry that I may have taken possession of a problem riddled car built on the tail end of a Q3 where production #s were pumped to achieve a sales record at the expense of Quality Assurance fit & finish and reliability.... I m willing to let Tesla do everything to address the issues my concern is when do I get to drive the car without worrying? Any advice? UPDATE: https: i.imgur.com dUAkzmg.png Ranger van with advisor & tech with loaner came by and tried to get the parking brake unstuck. After a while it became obvious the car wasn t going to move. So the car was lifted by the rear axle and pulled out with a tow truck then put on dollies and hauled away to the service center. https: i.imgur.com olPOFVu.png The current diagnosis is the left side seats sensor (or parts thereof) is blocking the software update and it so fails causing the cascading issues that include the parking brake fault which the software update was intended to fix in the first place... Once the seats issue is fixed so should everything else. I ll await further updates from the service center... UPDATE 2: The car is at the service center and from the Tesla App I can see there s activity on the car. At 7pm ET I received app notification that the car had succesfully updated to 2017.38.4 be12575 which means whatever was blocking the update before may have been resolved. I ll await an update tomorrow. In the meantime I have a Model S P100D loaner. FINAL UPDATE: The car was returned to me this evening. Everything has been addressed. The issue was 100% firmware and the firmware has been updated to the latest (see update 2). The rear seat sensor wasn t malfunctioning it was the first to be failed by the firmware in the cascading issues leading to the car being immobilized. The bumper was fixed. Turns out it was the RH headlight that was recessed way too far in and both headlights were adjusted to the bodywork and had the projectors aligned. I m very happy to have the car back for the long weekend (our Thanksgiving). | NickTdot | 2017-10-05 13:08:10 | 69 | dnxw9h1 | > Any advice? Keep doing what you re doing. It sounds like you re doing a very good job of documenting and letting service know about every problem you re having. It may help you to look up your state s lemon laws if it keeps going like this it sounds like you ll trigger them in the near future. | Thomas_Becket | 2017-10-05 13:13:56 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
upylq8 | Did I just win the lottery? | Okay so a little background. I have been following tesla for a few years now and after a few long weeks of consideration I finally pulled the trigger on a model 3. With the est. delivery date being August - October 22 I thought I had plenty of time to sell my current vehicle privately to maximize the value due to the used car market. I went to my local service center where I had scheduled the test drive and I absolutely fell in love with it. I placed the order with them on the website there and I was told to quote Do your delivery tasks as soon as possible to not delay delivery. So 10 minutes later I leave get in my car and start downloading the app. I create my account and start doing my tasks. **This is where it gets crazy...** Within 30 seconds of doing some tasks I get assigned a VIN number and I thought Hmm maybe they do that the second the orders placed. Mind you I had gotten a base model with a different exterior color so it wasn t anything out of the ordinary. My estimated delivery window goes from **August - October** to **May 25th - May 28th!** I thought there s no way it has to get pushed back. So I call them and wait for over an hour on hold just to speak to someone and he said Yeah I ve never seen that happen your not getting it that early... Your getting it by **NEXT SUNDAY!** So within 4 hours I placed my order got a 3 week delivery date which was then pushed to a week and now I take delivery **this Wednesday.** [Here s my proof](https: imgur.com a H5zlzMH) | samestuffevryday | 2022-05-15 04:53:44 | 956 | i8nvdnt | Could it be possible that someone declined delivery and they matched the same order to you? Does Tesla do that? | _jmgt | 2022-05-15 05:06:56 | 824 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
6wuwk4 | Did I make a mistake getting a Tesla? | They re wonderful cars. I ve never driven anything like them and they re amazing but I can t help but wonder if I made a mistake getting one. The main reason I feel this way is: I do not have a garage. I live in a condo building and my building does not have charging for *EV*. I literally live adjacent to a hotel that has a Blink station but that has been broken since the middle of July and I have contacted both the hotel and Blink and I am not optimistic that it will be fixed any time soon. I live about ~2.5 miles from my work and there are charging options at work but they are quickly becoming crowded and I suspect it s only a matter of time before the free reign of those charging stations is reigned in and my access to it is limited if not entirely cut. I *do* have access to 110v plugs but at ~3mph they do not offer a lot of charge. There is also a Tesla Supercharger opening up about ~7 miles from me by the end of 2017 but who knows? I keep going back and forth on whether or not I made a good decision. When I get into the car and drive it I love it and I feel this was exactly what I needed. Then when I look down at the dash and see I only have 52 miles of charge left I begin to wonder if I will ever feel anything *but* range anxiety and if I ll ever be able to truly enjoy it. Did I make a mistake? I could use some reassuring words from my fellow Tesla family! | Wolosocu | 2017-08-29 22:44:52 | 27 | dmb7do6 | You drive 5 miles a day? You have access to work charging 110v charging and a SC not too far away. And you drive 5 miles a day. What s the problem? Your mistake is not getting a bicycle. Seriously get some exercise! | _gosolar_ | 2017-08-30 02:09:32 | 88 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bd7pui | Did I make a mistake ordering Model S instead of the Model 3? | I ve always been interested in possibly getting a Tesla. A few weeks ago my wife told me stop talking about it and just order one so I did. I ordered a Model S instead of a model 3 the thought at the time being that since we have two kids in rear facing car seats the larger car and storage would make for a better family car. Given the 7 day return policy with no test drive it felt like a safe move. Now I m wondering if I made a mistake not looking more closely at the Model 3. What I ve been reading is that the S really isn t that much more spacious than the 3 in terms of seating. So at this point I m feeling some anxiety that i made the wrong choice between these two cars. If not for the non-refundable deposit I d just cancel the order now and take more time to test drive them both to make sure I feel comfortable with the added cost of the Model S. I just want to to be able to justify the added cost given that at the moment the model 3 seems to provide like 90% of the value at 50% of the cost. So i guess my question at this point is: What are the reasons people are still buying the model S over the 3? EDIT Follow-up: Thanks for all the advice. Really helpful. I ended up dropping by the showroom today and checked out the 3. Given the huge price difference I was able to comfortably add FSD which I had passed on for the S to keep the cost down. Ultimately I did have to forfeit the model S deposit which sucks but it s more than worth it to me overall. With the amount we re saving we can look into replacing my wife s older Mazda CX5 with something larger on a much shorter time-frame. | aaronjszy | 2019-04-14 21:16:34 | 38 | ekwdqm4 | Not to throw a wrench in your story but it sounds like you really needed the X. | CorkChop | 2019-04-14 22:00:04 | 67 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
beawy5 | Did Model 3 s stereo get less punchy bassy in a recent update? | Steaming music has virtually no bass and my immersive options disappeared although it s still enabled. Bluetooth seems affected too. Seems like they borked audio while trying to add Partial Premium to the software. I saw someone posting about it in the TMC forum as well and didn t notice personally until I turned on streaming audio from Slacker and the bass was almost completely gone on every song. & #x200B Anyone else notice this? Edit: after some input from this post about it possibly being caused by incoming calls I tested the theory. It seems correct once you receive an incoming call via Bluetooth audio quality is reduced until your reboot the system. | dcdttu | 2019-04-17 17:59:59 | 43 | el4bzdz | Yes sounds a little flat | seansolo2k | 2019-04-17 18:02:55 | 26 | Tesla Model 3 Audio Experience |
47td5l | Did Nissan just steal the Tesla fan made commercial? | It was a Nissan Rogue commercial. The Tesla fan commercial was the one from awhile ago with the kid sitting in a Model S in the garage pretending it was a spaceship. You guys remember the one right? Anyway this Nissan Rogue commercial seemed just like it. I ll try and find some YouTube links for comparison. | Rounders93 | 2016-02-27 04:50:29 | 16 | d0fidr4 | This is the Tesla one you are referring to? Never seen this till you mentioned it. Very well done though and a great concept would not be surprised at all if Nissan stole the idea. http: youtu.be KKbRAazkiWc | aquastorm | 2016-02-27 04:57:31 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6x04od | Did Steve Jurvetson sell all his TSLA shares? | It looks like he sold everything on 8 22: http: www.nasdaq.com symbol tsla insider-trades I understand taking profits but any idea why he d sell all of them? | FalkenCP | 2017-08-30 16:03:51 | 18 | dmc1gcq | Looks like he executed his options to acquire shares at $250 and then turned around and sold all of them for $339 that same day. All and all not a bad way to make close to $4 million dollars in a day. If you look at his history you can see he has been buying and selling shares for the past few years. He doesn t seem to keep them long term. | krazykanuck30 | 2017-08-30 16:20:05 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6cnsv6 | Did Tesla (company) coin the term frunk? I could have sworn the term existed before Tesla. | I have a bet with my wife. This is very important. | fourmajor | 2017-05-22 15:08:16 | 19 | dhw02wa | It already existed. I hate to use urban dictionary - but 2005... http: www.urbandictionary.com define.php?term=Frunk& defid=1386584 | dirtyfries | 2017-05-22 15:19:06 | 25 | Elon Musk Tesla Controversy |
br28kn | Did Tesla downsize their phone support? | When I first got my Model 3 in fall 2018 call center was a bit rough due to low staff and influx of cars so that s understandable. But then at the end of 2018 and until recently I could call anytime and they d be open and wait times were < 10 minutes consistently. It was wonderful. Now they r closed on weekends and during business hours it s a 30 minute wait every time I call. When why did this change occur? I didn t see anything about it. Trying to connect w online chat support and can t get through. This is frustrating : Edit: Tried again and got chat support. Really dumb IMO because 9 10 times I contacted support it was while driving. AKA only phone method possible for that. Well got my answer though. [~3 weeks ago weekend support was restructured](https: imgur.com a u58Jrdg) | appledude9 | 2019-05-20 22:21:38 | 23 | eo9hzay | Elon said they will spend money only essentials from now on. So no phone support while they work on adding ability to play more video games... | wootnootlol | 2019-05-20 22:37:57 | 28 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
7w8i7b | Did Tesla ever officially say that they were switching the order of AWD and SR production? [Discussion] | So obviously the current reservation holders on here are aware of the switch since we obsessively check our estimates like our lives depend on it but did Tesla ever directly announce the switch say during the earnings call? It seems like something shareholders should care about ( Hey we re switching things up so that you greedy bastards will see higher revenue sooner even if it means screwing over a large chunk of our customers ) but I don t see any official declaration of it anywhere. Am I missing something? If not don t you find that a little disconcerting? I d much prefer to learn stuff like this directly from Tesla instead of a bunch of panicked posts on here and I d feel a lot better about the whole thing if they simply owned up to it and explained the reasoning plan going forward instead of making such a huge shift that very negatively impacts arguably some of the most dedicated and important parts of their customer base without so much as a single statement. Note: I m aware of the email they sent out. I got one myself. But the email just makes it sound like the whole thing is just being pushed back (just as it has been many times before) and doesn t talk at all about a fundamental change in the order of production they ve been publicizing since the very beginning. In fact if you were going for AWD that email didn t apply to you at all since you should now be expecting your car EARLIER than previously indicated. PS anyone know if people who selected AWD got the email as well? If so that s very strange. Also early 2018 to late 2018 is NOT a slightly later window at all. At least be honest about what s really happening and why... EDIT: So after reading this the consensus seems to be that people may or may not actually be getting AWD earlier but SR is definitely coming later which still means that the order of SR and AWD has been switched and it would seem Tesla never officially mentioned this which is again surprising considering the good news it would be to shareholders and the like. To be clear as much as I hate having to late so much longer I totally get why it s happening. I m just really confused as to why they haven t directly addressed the changes. This seems like some really good financial news that they d want to emphasize considering all the bad news surrounding it. | blasterdude8 | 2018-02-08 21:54:47 | 16 | dtye51e | Warning speculation ahead. I think that a major issue with the Model 3 production is the gigafactory. They don t want to produce two different battery packs right now since they re having trouble with what they ve got. Instead they re moving ahead with AWD because it enables them to offer another variant but it doesn t change what the gigafactory has to build. I m surprised they didn t instead start offering the LR in non-PUP or in other interior colors but that s just my opinion. | majesticjg | 2018-02-08 22:21:24 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7dv2tj | Did Tesla have a third reveal at the Semi event that went under the radar and perhaps is the biggest news of all? | A few months back Elon had announced they were getting close to major advancements in battery technology to include the battery cell density. I think the Semi and Roadster reveal was basically proof they have reached that breakthrough even if not in production scale yet. So current weight of the Tesla 100 kWh battery pack comes in at 1300 lbs so I m just going off of those numbers as a reference for getting weights for larger packs. If the Roadster has a 200 kWh pack the batteries alone would come in at 2600 lbs and if you figure on an other 1200 lbs for the rest of the vehicle you re at 3800 lbs still manageable for a launch weight with the torque the car has but it s such a small car without a much denser power pack it would be hard to shoehorn all those batts into that small frame. As for the Semi most numbers I ve seen thrown out with about a 2 kWh per mile usage would put he battery in the 1 MWh range. Size isn t as much of a factor with the Semi but weight would put a hit in he overall load it could haul. At a full order of magnitude in size over the 100 kWh pack it would weigh in at 13 000 lbs. With many standard trucks weighing in the 40k lbs range empty you could lose around 25% of your hauling capabilities with that heavy of a battery pack. It could still come in at a cheaper operating cost with a smaller load for a fleet operator but more expensive for a independent operator due to being able to haul less per trip when they are limited by the number of trips they can make on their own. Cost would be another factor too with a full 1 MWh pack with most people trying to tear down the Semi saying the batteries would cost over $300-400k alone. So I m thinking that Tesla thinks they can implement batteries that are significantly cheaper lighter and smaller than they are currently producing at full scale today. And for the concept version of the vehicles to work like they did the other night I would say they are already able to build these packs albeit probably not cheaper and in limited quantities. The implications if true would be cheaper cars and longer range in a few years time. I d also say they have advanced battery and motor cooling too they were taking person after person on the Roadster test drive at the event and doing dozens of hard launches. I couldn t imagine many hyper cars doing what the Roadster did without having to take a few cooling off breaks or breaking down. | ICBMFixer | 2017-11-18 19:23:08 | 216 | dq0lvzi | I was thinking the same thing that new roadster is tiny where did they squeeze a 200kWh battery into that thing. That would be hard to do even in a Model S. | steffenfrost | 2017-11-18 20:30:34 | 81 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6z2fwd | Did Tesla just upgrade my 60D due to the hurricane? | I m in South Florida and I own a MS60. I just checked my app and look what it says. I ve never been higher that 215 miles. Did Tesla do this for evacuations? Anyone else? Glitch? What gives? Amazing if they did do that. !flair question https: i.imgur.com Y5FtCwp.jpg Edit : Here s the letter I received https: i.imgur.com zFcFOIs.jpg Edit for the uninformed: Tesla offered a very limited 60 model. It was a known 75kw battery software limited to lower the price and bump sales. It was cheaper and I didn t need the extra miles so it sold me. It was an experiment by Tesla that worked but has been discontinued. They turned it on for all of us 60 owners in Florida to help out. I could have upgraded to a 75 anytime but chose not to. Very cool of them. | Ludachris9000 | 2017-09-09 15:56:21 | 4,103 | dms2epc | This is a wonderful move by Tesla! Someone on TMC claims they called Tesla and confirmed that 60s in evacuation zones were unlocked to 75s until the 16th. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads model-s-60d-upgraded-for-free-to-75.97765 | ifitzgerald | 2017-09-09 17:37:05 | 1,502 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
73mfhs | Did Tesla ninja-patch AP2? | I noticed yesterday that on local roads (off the highway) the little gray steering wheel icon (which allows you to enable lane keeping) comes on much less frequently. There are places where I once could turn on AP2 that are now disabled. So it seems like Tesla has reduced the availability of AP2 off the highway (my firmware is 2017.34 2448cfc which is kinda old). Has anyone else seen this behavior? I might be imagining it... Has there been any news in this area? I don t think I read anything... (If they did reduce availability I don t think it s a bad thing. AP2 didn t work super well on local roads. So disabling it there until the software improves is probably a good idea.) | xmantipper | 2017-10-01 16:00:28 | 20 | dnrdmwf | maybe because of people using it off the freeway and then [posting complaints](https: streamable.com ductj) that it doesn t stay within the lane on tight corners they decided to make people follow the directions a little more strictly :shrug: | EVing | 2017-10-01 16:19:22 | 26 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
3fvt4u | Did Tesla production met its demand (even if just for a while)? | Musk recently unleashed his secret weapon against dealers (referral program). This is a demand side thing. It would make absolutely no sense to launch something like this if they had backlog they would make zero profit of it just made some customers angrier and making backlog longer. Also in Q4 2014 they delivered 9 834 cars. In Q2 2015 they delivered 11507 - 17% up. If their production met demand in Q4 2014 it is really great number - 17% increase in demand in just half a year maybe even off season (I really don t know when is the season for cars) it is really good - and that is without a new model (if we count D as just new option for Model S) advertising redesign etc. But if they were production constrained all the way to the Q2 2015 - 17% increase in production capacity in half a year is a really bad number. That s why I really hope they finally met demand (even delivery times seems short) because otherwise it looks pretty bad for their capabilities to expand quickly. What do you think? P.S. - even if they met demand it won t be for long because referral program will get them many new orders and they have big backlog of Model X orders so this isn t doom for Tesla. And when they meet the demand for X Model 3 would probably be already unveiled with pre-orders maybe even close to release so there is no worry about the future of Tesla. | Tupcek | 2015-08-05 15:08:48 | 13 | ctse77y | Originally Tesla expected selling about 20 000 Model S a year. I think now they are expecting to plateau at ~50 000 units. 50 000 would mean you are right production should currently meet demand since they are now over 1 000 units per week. | FredTesla | 2015-08-05 15:34:24 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
wqwjsk | Did Tesla pull support for Tidal in Germany? | Tidal has disappeared while driving from my Tesla Model Y LR. I have been driven and wanted to open Tidal but it at first look just like it couldn t connect to the server. After trying to start Tidal for several times it suddenly disappeared entirely. I have since rebooted the car with both buttons pressed and the car has been in deep sleep several times and it didn t reappear. https: i.imgur.com 3uEGyYY.jpg (Software Version 2022.20.8) | Soeren-Hetzer | 2022-08-17 18:39:12 | 12 | ikoz0wy | There aren t any complains about that on tff-forum.de yet so I don t think it generally has been pulled. It should still work would open a service ticket. Also try rebooting by changing the language. | Felixkruemel | 2022-08-17 18:57:23 | 10 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
qkuar5 | Did Tesla remove Expected Delivery Time for vehicles from their website? | I m no longer seeing estimated delivery timeframes on the custom order portion of the website? Are the potential tax rebates driving the removal of this? Lead times getting too long that it was turning buyers off? | kylemorden | 2021-11-02 02:30:21 | 17 | hizrqov | Check website on computer. I sometimes don t see it on mobile browser. | aestheticsjess | 2021-11-02 09:54:52 | 11 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
egsqxq | Did Tesla short me? | Recently purchased a 2017 90d model s via Tesla inventory. All of the sales paperwork (and original window sticker) stated states “enhanced autopilot”. $5k line item on the window sticker). But noticed I have no summon feature no navigate on autopilot no autopilot lame charging no autopilot parking. Just what appears to be very basic autopilot. I do have cameras on fenders and b pillars. Via app the “upgrades” area shows one upgrade option: $7k FSD. When I click the “already purchased” section it states “basic autopilot”. Why the discrepancy between what the app states vs what my sales paperwork states? Am I being shorted on a feature function that I was promised on the sales paperwork? | PlayerFromHimalaya | 2019-12-28 16:33:42 | 44 | fc9dtyg | Yes. If the paperwork explicitly states enhanced autopilot you got the wrong autopilot package. Contact them they should be able to fix this with a software update. | tp1996 | 2019-12-28 16:38:53 | 101 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
l837jv | Did Tesla silently deprecate the Owner s API? | UPDATE: This is solved. Tesla deprecated their old authentication API in favor of their OAuth2 implementation. This has been documented by u timdorr [here](https: tesla-api.timdorr.com api-basics authentication). You can see a reference example in Ruby in his API or my repo [here](https: github.com carlosonunez tesla-oauth2-token-bot) for a quick no-frills implementation. ORIGINAL POST: I m getting this error now when I try to get a new token from my iOS Shortcut: ``` { response : endpoint_deprecated:_please_update_your_app } ``` I was able to get a token this morning no problem. I also can t find anything on Google about this specific error. Did something change? | mrcrassic | 2021-01-29 20:27:21 | 40 | glakn54 | Just a note: there was never a public API. There were internal API endpoints scrapped out of the android app that were widely shared. Tesla never had any obligation to keep those operating or inform you when they were changing. | Ihaveamodel3 | 2021-01-29 21:26:25 | 47 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
egbaii | Did Tesla stop using Open Street Map data for Smart Summon? | I have found since I got 2019.40.50.1 that Smart Summon no longer respects the direction of aisles or stays out of parking spots in parking lots I had previously fixed in OSM. I use these particular parking lots for testing because it seems to have issues. I had fixed single direction aisles as well as mapping out parking spaces and once I did that within a week summon was avoiding driving through parking spaces and respected the direction of the aisles. Now it seems to have reverted and ignores direction and drives through parking spaces basically taking the straightest shortest route to the target. One other thing I noticed is that even though the parking lot correctly showed the front of the store aisle in one parking lot as a non public road in OSM and doesn t display as a road in Google maps it still would not let me summon to the front of the store saying it was not available on public roads. Apple Maps on the phone incorrectly shows this aisle as a road so I wonder if it s getting some road data from that. Otherwise it must be using data from somewhere else. | McHoffa | 2019-12-27 13:42:02 | 74 | fc5ese7 | Interesting! [Green said that Tesla stopped doing maps vision for stop signs (switched entirely to vision) ](https: twitter.com greentheonly status 1210282375747375104) so this could definitely be a thing. | TheBurtReynold | 2019-12-27 14:04:22 | 54 | Smart Summon Limitations |
x7fwfh | Did Tesla update WiFi configuration with software 2022.24.x? | Previously I could barely connect to wifi if it is more than 20 ft away from the router. After 2022.24.5 I see lot more networks appearing in the car and also the link speed is much higher. Did anyone else notice this? I have a 2022 Model Y LR. | Civil-Marsupial6579 | 2022-09-06 17:06:19 | 66 | incx0op | Looks like I ll need the update in order to download the update. 🙃 | pktgen | 2022-09-06 20:12:10 | 52 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
eh9q5j | Did a DIY chrome delete this weekend. Quick write-up on what I learned and whether it was worth it (lots of photos). | Hello! Per [my post](https: old.reddit.com r TeslaModel3 comments eh1ilz doing_my_own_chrome_delete_after_getting_several ) yesterday I did a DIY chrome delete and I thought I d share some pictures and takeaways from the experience. Here are all the pictures I took (with captions): TLDR - [Before and after pic](https: imgur.com UivEJbu) [Album 1](https: imgur.com a KYlEn5b) - Door handles emblems and repeaters [Album 2](https: imgur.com a DhCgBHl) - Window trim **Why did I do it?** Not because I hate chrome but because I wanted a two-tone look where the accents matched the Tesla rims. Especially with blacks and greys I find that I just prefer fewer shades of color when they re close together. I also decided to do it myself because I was getting much higher quotes than I was expecting in the midwest but I also wanted ALL the chrome deleted so I understood. **What method did I use?** Plasti-dip because it s cheap and worst-case scenario removable. **What did it cost?** About $20 and roughly 12 hours of time cumulatively. **What did I learn?** A ton. First the more closely you tape the easier it s going to be later and the less you ll have to fix. Leave yourself an entire afternoon evening because you don t want to be rushed. A second person to help tape wouldn t be a bad move. I figured out a better knife technique when scoring along edges (lightly don t worry) so if I did it again I would be much better at it. The parts that came out good came out REALLY good so I would be able to get that quality more consistently. **Was it worth it?** Yes! It s not professional and it s far from flawless but it cost me $20 and will look great to the majority of people who will see it in passing. The good thing is I can always touch it up if I need to and I ll do a better job in less time. Feel free to ask any questions! I m happy to help someone else do theirs even better. | ajsayshello- | 2019-12-29 18:52:18 | 72 | fcjejqv | I did my whole car today https: imgur.com a nLLLjLx | Drksyder | 2019-12-30 05:46:32 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6g55mi | Did anybody else get this email? Discontinuing the 90D Tonight! | I got this email from my tesla rep today > I hope all is well with you! > I just wanted to drop you a friendly reminder that tonight at midnight we are discontinuing the 90D battery. Once we drop that from the line the only options will be the 75 75D 100D and P100D. There will be a small handful of 90D batteries in inventory but they are already moving quickly. > If you want to lock in the 90D as an option you can place your $2500 deposit on a custom build. Once you do you will have 3 days to make any changes to the car or get a refund for your deposit. > Let me know if this is something you re interested in exploring. I just didn t want you to miss the opportunity at our best balance of range performance and value we offer right now. Not really a surprise that the 90 is going away. | BraveRock | 2017-06-09 00:55:45 | 32 | dinlwc4 | No. But this was announced last week. | mrbeck1 | 2017-06-09 01:27:09 | 21 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
eldvl9 | Did anybody upgrade from Model S to Model 3 Performance? | I currently have a 2017 Model S 75 (not 75D) and I d like to get a new Tesla within the next few months... At the moment I m considering Model S (either Long Range or Performance) or Model 3 Performance. Model 3 Performance does seem like good value for money. I m wondering if anyone upgraded to a Model 3 Performance from a Model S? Is there anything you miss from your Model S or anything you were surprised about in the Model 3? If I go for another Model S it would still be quite an upgrade over my current 75. This would mean I d get MCU2 HW3 Air suspension dual motors faster supercharging and of course much better acceleration. | joeallenpro | 2020-01-07 16:35:43 | 33 | fdh5r9n | I went from a S P85+ to Model 3 Performance. I like the fact that the car is physically smaller and has more nimble handling. The ~3s 0-60 is actually quicker than the P85+ (4.2s) and the front motor makes it feel less like a punch in the back when you step on it. At times I miss the power liftgate the huge trunk and the softer ride. But in general I think the Model 3 is the right car for me. I would suggest taking the Model 3 for a test drive if a showroom is near you. If i were to do it again I would probably do a stealth Model 3 Performance or eventually I will get smaller wheels. The 20 wheels are very harsh reduce range by a decent amount (my max range is maybe 270 mi at 70mph) and I worry about every little pothole on the road. Not to mention they run about USD$250-300 per tire. | SD_Enginerd | 2020-01-07 16:52:50 | 40 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6yb1jn | Did anyone actually get the 0.99% interest rate that Tesla is advertising? I feel like they are giving me the run around | I recently ordered a Tesla Model S and after speaking with the guy who contacted me after placing my order he made a big deal about how they would be able to offer 0.99% 72 month interest rate on financing through Tesla which is outstanding. I sent in my application for financing and a day or so later I got a call telling my that I didn t have enough credit history for them to do financing with me and they recommended going with some third party provider that only offers a minimum of 2.49% 60 month loans. I was initially a bit confused because while I haven t bought a house I have pretty much perfect credit and I ve never missed a payment on anything. My credit rating is currently around 789. Either way they said I could try to get a co-signer and reapply if I wanted to do financing through tesla still so I reached out to my Mom and she agreed to cosign with me. Her and my dad have been paying a mortage for over 20 years and making multiple car payments and have never had any financial troubles so I thought that would be enough. Again they called me today to say that even with my Mom as a co-signer my application was denied for having “limited comparable payment history”. WTF? What more can they ask for than a co-signer with over twenty years of mortgage payments and car payments? I feel like they lured me in advertising an interest rate that they aren t actually willing to hand out and only denied me after I already signed the agreement to order the car and would lose my deposit if I backed out now. This feels pretty dirty from a company I held in high esteem and have always wanted to be a customer of. Has anyone else had this experience or managed to get approved for the 0.99% interest rate they are advertising? | neomatrix248 | 2017-09-05 21:14:39 | 35 | dmlzau2 | The 0.99% loan is from Alliant not Tesla themselves. See the deal here: http: alliantpromos.org tesla | Irythros | 2017-09-05 21:29:19 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6qfgsa | Did anyone anticipate dual motor being 12 months out? | This one really sucks for me I was hoping that Q1 maybe Q2 of 2018 I could have the all wheel drive option. Very sad now. | JBStroodle | 2017-07-30 04:15:04 | 10 | dkwv3rp | No this was the biggest surprise of the reveal. I was going for elons tweet about a 6 mo delay after initial production for the start of dual motors this would put it at July + 6 mo or Jan feb of 2018 | Athabascad | 2017-07-30 04:19:10 | 15 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
mg16xo | Did anyone else get a random cancellation notice from Tesla insurance? | Out of the blue I got a cancellation notice from them and it s super weird. It says the reason is for non-payment which isn t true I ve been paying. Then it says cancellation will be on Nov 17 2019 (which is the date my policy started). Then I get another email one minute later saying the reason it was cancelled is because I cancelled it (not true) and that the cancellation effective date will be April 14 2020. It said 2020 not 2021. Then I got a third email at about the same time as the second email giving the exact same information as the second email. I ve replied to their emails and will try to sort it out but I wonder if they had some widescale bug that sent out cancellation notices? Edit: Update: I gave them a call and they said they were doing some system maintenance over the weekend and accidentally created some duplicate policies and so they re going through and cancelling all of them. They said my original policy was still in force. I told them that I didn t see that in my Tesla account on the website so they emailed me the relevant documents so that I could have proof of insurance and just said they re working on it. Hopefully they have it fixed soon and get some better practices around their system maintenance. | Nickolai1989 | 2021-03-29 22:22:17 | 47 | gsql27o | My money is on their systems fucking up. | sysadminbj | 2021-03-29 22:25:51 | 64 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
2tx6gf | Did anyone else test drive a P85D and only get to go around the block on the freeway and right back to the showroom? | I just did a test drive of the D series and the guy didn t even give me a chance to try out the acceleration. Is that what they do with everyone? I thought he might take me to some backroads or something but I was barely on the road for 10 minutes. I felt kinda bad for even showing up like I was wasting his time. | [deleted] | 2015-01-28 03:09:52 | 11 | co3zi5j | My test drive: sales guy comes out after getting the key and askes me if I wanted him to come along I replied i didn t need him for that we talked for a few minutes then he threw the key in the seat and went back inside the store again :) drove around for about an hour tested it on highway tried it out in my garasje at home and random roads nearby then I went back to the store with a huge smile :D -norway | superbest1 | 2015-01-28 22:21:52 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4ckigt | Did anyone else watch the M3 webinar from CairnERA? | I just struggled through it and aside from the poor to nonexistent audio I thought it had some interesting points. Anyone want me to post the slide screen captures I took? | mrtch | 2016-03-30 12:22:42 | 10 | d1izbxa | Here you go: [CairnERA](http: imgur.com a opGxt) The slides were cut off in the Presentation but I caught as much as they put up. | mrtch | 2016-03-30 12:54:50 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
ckgbrq | Did anyone get the spoiler with their Model 3 Performance stealth version? | Last October I purchased a P3D- and was told the spoiler was back ordered (along with an included Signature version wall charger which I still haven t received and now they have no record that I am owed one....). Did anyone get a spoiler included with their stealth version? Or is it only included with full performance version? | YoshiDog | 2019-07-31 23:37:00 | 20 | evn0fbq | It s only included as a part of the Performance package upgrades. You were misinformed. | tr287 | 2019-07-31 23:42:32 | 34 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4fegkp | Did anyone go to the Social? | I wanted to go yesterday but by time I made up my mind it was at capacity. Considering going this weekend. Who went and how was it? | thatsmyaibo | 2016-04-18 22:31:46 | 20 | d285ty3 | It was 30 minutes of standing around talking to owners. Then 30 min brief presentation on auto-pilot and summon to describe the features and take any questions from owners. Then maybe 5-10mins for general questions and comments then more hanging around and talking with owners. Surprisingly they didn t push for anyone to upgrade to new version or Model X. Just kind of gave overviews and thanked everyone for being an early adopter owner. There were some decent pastries and coffee soda etc. | dieabetic | 2016-04-18 23:10:55 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3yanrz | Did anyone not get the recent update? spotify & 7.0 update | My tesla s 85D is in Hong Kong. My current version is 6.2. I did not receive any update popup on 7.0 nor the spotify update. I did receive an email about switching from rdio to spotify. But my media screen is still on Rdio. anyone in the same situation? is there some steps i need to take to update it ? | underdog102 | 2015-12-26 16:05:24 | 21 | cybwpp6 | I m in Sweden and I got 7.0 a long time ago. You should have as well. Have you tried pressing the T at the top of the display to see if there s an update pending? The Spotify update doesn t seem to have been released yet though - no one has it yet. | danni_e | 2015-12-26 17:16:31 | 9 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
77htfj | Did cliffordcat ever pony up? | I don t remember the exact spec of the wager but I recall that s he was in a position to pay out on that model 3 ship quantity bet based on number of cars already delivered. I haven t seen a followup. Did I miss it or did something else come of he story? | smallbusinessnerd | 2017-10-19 22:14:39 | 23 | dom1trx | u cliffordcat s bet was [mass production starting by December 1st](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments 5smydp meta_hey_rteslamotors_put_your_money_where_your) where: > mass production is defined as the first day that 100 or more Tesla Model 3s are produced for sale to the public. Tesla hasn t made anywhere near 100 day. | ahecht | 2017-10-19 23:32:07 | 27 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9se3c1 | Did my part to contribute toward the 10M miles this weekend | My wife and I were heading from the SF Bay Area up to Eureka this weekend but we had to delay our departure when I saw there was an update available! We drove about 700 miles total a lot of it on Nav on Autopilot. It s astounding. At one point on the way back we hit the 80 580 880 980 interchange one of the more complicated in the area. It was evening and we needed to end up on 880 which I had seen indicated on the nav list earlier. We got to that point and suddenly we were veering off toward 580 instead. I was disappointed for only a few moments until we checked the map and realized it was routing around a really bad traffic jam. Good car! NoA is not perfect but what an improvement over standard AP! Now if they d just make it stop weaving so much at every freeway entrance... | fpatton | 2018-10-29 15:30:32 | 99 | e8o3lmb | if everyone drives ~1000 miles a month and there are say 100k cars gathering data that s 100 million miles in one month. we ll hit that 10 million mark in a couple weeks once the updates are fully out... | Morder | 2018-10-29 16:05:47 | 23 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
4guez3 | Did not following warning about avoiding test drives while waiting for 3... | Already reserved a Model 3 on Day 1 and scheduled HPWC installation to take advantage of the 2016 Fed EVSE credits. Then we took a test drive and have been bitten by the Tesla bug. Badly. Currently looking at a 2016 70D lease for 3 years. We re working through the financials now but it is doable. I like the idea of a lease for this vehicle in particular since the residual is guaranteed and I foresee the market value of the current Model S dropping once the 3 s tech is out in a few years. Thoughts? The wife is worried about charging on trips. PA doesn t have very good supercharger infrastructure right now so we d have to lean heavily on J1772 and 14-50 plugs scattered randomly. Our normal trip (at least once a month) is about 180 miles one way. Anything I can use to help her get over that fear or convince me it s a risky option right now? On a good note we both really appreciate the non-dealer experience. It s very refreshing. Tip: Heed the warnings! If you re not ready to buy now hold off on testing a Tesla. Because they are awesome. Edit: Deposit placed! | notsooriginal | 2016-04-28 15:12:11 | 40 | d2krvsd | Not gonna lie a 360 mile round trip without superchargers is going to be challenging. Check [plugshare](http: www.plugshare.com ) around and en route to your destination and keep in mind that the charge rate on J1772s varies- I ve had as slow as 11 mph in some. | EatMoarToads | 2016-04-28 15:22:55 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
7lseej | Did not receive Updates for a while. | I just realized that I did not receive any OTA for a while now. No camper mode no chill mode.. I should just stay patient I guess? | Dropcunts | 2017-12-24 01:23:10 | 12 | drommes | Are you on wifi or LTE most of the time? Home wifi usually downloads first | An_aussie_in_ct | 2017-12-24 01:47:40 | 9 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
bcfgek | Did paint prices become $500 cheaper too? | Paint prices are down by $500 now as well as part of the lineup and pricing change. Anyone else notice this? I m configuring a SR+ and believe they are now cheaper. (I m in the US BTW - also not sure if this is the same everywhere and all trims. * Grey Blue - $1 000 * White - $1 500 * Red - $2 000 | Askew123 | 2019-04-12 16:18:43 | 26 | ekq7z5d | About time the paint prices are a joke. | _Torks_ | 2019-04-12 16:38:36 | 37 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7jm1dz | Did something happen to the CPO program? | Did they remove it or something? I only see one car available. | fang_xianfu | 2017-12-13 20:21:35 | 10 | dr7go6j | Conspiracy-ish theory: Tesla s holding buying them as loaners for the inevitable crash of Model 3 repairs. | legobis | 2017-12-13 21:06:50 | 11 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
qi8qch | Did the Model 3 price increase again today? | I swear the price for the Model 3 SR+ was $54 990(CDN) yesterday. Today it s $56 380(CDN). I know there was a recent price increase but again so soon? Is this normal? | Aerovoid | 2021-10-29 09:14:33 | 47 | hii37gm | You are correct they did raise the price. This also means that the SR+ no longer qualifies for the federal $5 000 rebate. EDIT - They have corrected the price of the Standard Range so that it falls under the $45 000 base model threshold again so the SR+ is once again eligible for the $5 000 rebate. | HereticKiller6 | 2021-10-29 12:02:19 | 59 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4if477 | Did the gigafactory unveiling opening party get delayed? | Wasn t it suppose to be in April? | annerajb | 2016-05-08 16:10:59 | 23 | d2xndyk | This is Tesla... don t get me wrong I love the company but the last time they got anything done on time was never. | MindTheGap9 | 2016-05-08 18:14:07 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6mwqes | Did the netflix show shameless and tesla have some sort of deal? Or did season 7 of the show just really love saying and showing teslas? | For those who have seen season 7 they constantly showcase teslas in a couple episodes and basically glorify them. You guys think they had some sort of partnership or just something the writers decided to throw in? | KSoccerman | 2017-07-12 20:32:56 | 30 | dk4yln4 | Are you saying there were some shameless Tesla plugs..? | marker2002 | 2017-07-12 20:59:11 | 70 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6akp21 | Did the solar roof calculator change overnight? | I ran it last night on my address and it automatically filled in the square footage etc. Roof cost was around $50k. This morning I typed in my address and it made me enter the sqft and number of stories and gave an estimate of $20k for the roof (only the roof install ignoring their other numbers). Did they change it to make the estimates less outrageous? | FalkenCP | 2017-05-11 15:07:46 | 42 | dhf8yxl | Changed for me as well at least on mobile. It s no longer pulling details from Google Project Sunroof (reference removed too). Edit: Desktop still pulls from Sunroof. Edit2: Looks like if Sunroof times out or takes too long then it reverts to the fill in your own details version. | iceraven101 | 2017-05-11 15:14:50 | 16 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
58jajc | Did you know there is a customer in Norway who bought multiple Tesla vehicles for himself and for the towns people to use whenever they want. | https: www.tesla.com blog tesla-superowner-arctic-circle Article from 04 2014 | roastbeefskins | 2016-10-20 20:49:57 | 166 | d90zqdv | We need an update to that story. How many Model X s does he have now? How many Model 3 s is he buying **for the town...?** | djh_van | 2016-10-20 22:52:49 | 19 | Tesla Challenges in Germany |
u1i7uq | Did you or would you pay for Premium Connectivity? | Are you subscribed to it? If so why and if not why? | jay-san-jay | 2022-04-11 21:31:33 | 216 | i4cj2fe | I did the annual subscription. I like not needing my phone to stream movies listen to Spotify etc. | CoreNet | 2022-04-11 21:50:53 | 329 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2eabkr | Did you purchase Tesla service? | Ordered my S but I have not added Tesla Services . Did you? Has it come in handy at all? I honestly don t feel like it s needed and I can save 1900-3800 bucks. Thoughts? The only part that intrigued me was the Hardware upgrades . I guess I m not sure what they mean by this. **Tesla Service includes:** * Annual inspection (or every 12 500 miles) * Replacement parts like brake pads and windshield wipers (excluding tires) * 24 hour roadside assistance * System monitoring * Remote diagnostics * Hardware upgrades | leopor | 2014-08-22 15:51:28 | 10 | cjxlm1x | It seems to be a good deal considering the price of the car. | sadolin | 2014-08-22 17:08:16 | 7 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
3oamx9 | Did you see Elon s reference to 7.1? | More comprehensive UI update coming with 7.1 Very interested to see what the more comprehensive changes are! | ebob5030 | 2015-10-11 03:46:08 | 21 | cvvi229 | And I bet that takes a year too. | geo38 | 2015-10-11 04:05:20 | 11 | Tesla Software Update Analysis |
2j4yef | Did your DS tell you to not use the frunk that often? | When I picked up the car the DS told me the frunk should be used as little as possible to avoid damage to the hood which is apparently pretty fragile. I m curious as to why they didn t design it with the same mechanism as the trunk (minus the automated bits) so it could be used normally. Also is there any way to update to 6.0 manually? | mistuhwang | 2014-10-13 18:20:48 | 11 | cl8t901 | Hopefully this design defect is being addressed in the current models which also apparently have a wider rear opening. Telling customers to avoid using one of the most notable usable features of the car because it ll break the car is really not acceptable. | Thud | 2014-10-14 02:29:20 | 7 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
gw3b3c | Difference between Corded Mobile Connector and Gen Mobile Connector and J1772. | My electrician recommends his installing a NEMA 14-50 outlet and using a mobile charger. What is the difference between the $580 Corded Mobile Connector which seems to plug in to a NEMA 14-50 outlet and the Generation 2 mobile charger connector which is $275 for a second connector to leave at home and $35 for the Nema 14-50 adapter? This is for charging a standard Tesla Model 3 with rare charging of a visitor s car with a J1772. Would a J1772 adapter be satisfactory for charging the Tesla? My friend would be visiting once or twice a week? | jurassickayak | 2020-06-03 21:38:26 | 12 | fsst9go | Here s Tesla reasoning for using a Wall Connector and no longer including the NEMA 14-50 adapter with cars: > The NEMA 14-50 outlet is a holdover from the original 2008 Tesla Roadster when RV parks were the only reliable means of charging outside of major cities. With the Supercharger and Destination Charging networks now covering the vast majority of travel needs very few customers continue to rely on this infrastructure. As more and more of our customers choose to install a Wall Connector we ve decided to recommend the Wall Connector for all newly installed infrastructure and remove the adapter from new vehicles. > > Additionally NEC 2017 introduces a GFCI requirement for outlets installed for electric vehicle charging. This requirement increases the cost of installations and can lead to false trips creating a poor customer experience and increased service visits. With built in ground fault protection the Wall Connector can utilize a standard circuit breaker and is the more reliable home charging solution. | pmsyyz | 2020-06-03 23:00:01 | 21 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
oaxwy1 | Difference between Corded Mobile Connector vs Gen2 Mobile Connector? | I was looking at the charging section of their site and the corded mobile connector is $520 whereas the gen2 mobile connector is $275. The former has an attached NEMA 14-50 but if I just got the $40 NEMA 14-50 adapter would it make the gen2 essentially the same thing for less money? Are there other benefits that account for the higher price of the corded one other than lack of adapters? | invalidTypecast | 2021-06-30 14:00:14 | 15 | h3khodb | The corded can charge at a higher rate. I don t remember the exact spec but I think the included mobile connector w 14-50 adapter maxed out at 32 amps | skicks01 | 2021-06-30 15:16:16 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5czi07 | Difference between next-gen and premium seats? | I think the Model S that I took for a test drive had next gen seats and they were quite comfy but I m wondering what are the biggest differences between all the three options? Standard next gen premium? Especially now since the 90D seems to come with the premium seats instead of next-gen like previously. | fisherrr | 2016-11-15 00:27:23 | 12 | da0oayn | Standard comes in two flavors. The early standard seats had a thinner base (butt) cushion. Upside is more head room in the car downside is that some people found them too flat and firm. The newer standard seats from mid-2014 on are about as thick in the base padding as the nexgen. Standard seats were also available in Performance Leather which had some panels made of alcantara instead of nappa leather and contrast piping added. Black seats got red piping tan seats got a grey-green piping and gray seats got white piping. The piping was also carried over to the back seats though I don t think the alcantara panels were. So when you see Performance Leather on a used Tesla you ll know that it means the original seat design with contrast piping. Nexgen seats have more aggressive bolsters on the side and different styling. There was a time when nexgen first came out that nexgen rear seats were different from standard. Now rear seats are all the same design as standard because the nexgen rear seats didn t fold completely flat due to the taller bolster. Tesla Premium is the nexgen design but manufactured in house by Tesla instead of (IIRC) ordered from Recaro. I don t know if there are any padding differences but I believe the shape and pattern is the same. In the photos on the website they look smoother in design and stitching but that could just be the way the images are done. I d expect all the seats to be Premium at some point as Tesla in-sources more of the manufacturing. As far as I know the rear-facing child seats have not changed since introduction. | majesticjg | 2016-11-15 01:45:23 | 15 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
8vma5l | Differences between 3D and P3D | Wondering if anyone has more thoughts on this than what s been discussed so far. I m fascinated by the idea that these are indeed identical drivetrains with percent level differences due to tiny production quality variations. This is the best thread I ve seen on the topic and it ends inconclusively referring to tweets between Elon Musk and Ryan McCaffrey: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads upgrading-awd.117054 page-2 It sounds like the Silicon Carbide inverters are the same on both the basic AWD and the performance model. But Elons tweet isn t completely clear. Thoughts anyone? | jintoku | 2018-07-02 21:08:23 | 28 | e1ohks5 | Identical except for a software unlock. Wouldn t be surprised if people try hacking AWD models to unlock the performance. | croninsiglos | 2018-07-02 21:16:01 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2ey3ie | Differences between Superchargers vs. HPWC vs. Dual Charging | I don t own a Tesla but I m captivated by their cars and technologies. Can someone explain like I m 5 what the difference is between Supercharging HPWC and Dual Charging... and maybe follow it up with a bit more technical information (ie. which is best charge times amperages etc.). I apologize if this has been covered in a previous post. | mdrsharp | 2014-08-29 19:50:24 | 13 | ck432lx | Regular outlet: slow 3 miles per hour Dryer RV outlet (10-30 14-30 14-50 etc): a little faster 20-30 miles per hour HPWC without dual chargers: just a little faster than the dryer RV outlet still around 30-35 miles per hour. Can only handle load around 40a. HPWC with dual chargers: double the rate of the HPWC without dual chargers - pretty fast 60-70 miles per hour. Can handle load around 80a. Supercharging: fast as f*** compared to others. 170 miles in 30 minutes (assuming near empty battery pack) | dieabetic | 2014-08-29 20:50:08 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
fatjij | Differences changes in model 3 year to year | Hey guys. So I currently live in Lubbock Texas and am wanting to hop on the Tesla train. I am very open to buying a used Tesla. I have a 2018 Nissan Titan I would trade in. My question is.... If I bought a 15 16 year model instead of a 18 19 20 model would I be missing out on anything?? Are there any changes? I can t find information anywhere on this topic. So I thought I would consult the great Reddit. | _blakegrant | 2020-02-28 11:49:11 | 36 | fj06zqj | Well the model 3 did not exist in 15 16 so those are right out. Beyond that Tesla doesn t update cars based on model year like other manufacturers. Instead there are gradual small changes improvements over time. One example is the seats in the model 3 were updated in about May 2018 to a new version. Another larger example is that all Tesla s after April 2019 we re made with the new Hardware v3.0 computer internally. I m sure there is a list somewhere of all the changes over time if you Google a bit. | gheldean | 2020-02-28 12:05:19 | 43 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
re31b5 | Different behavior while stopping after new update | Hello all I ve updated to 2021.44.5 yesterday and ever since I ve noticed an unusual behavior when the car slows to a stop. Since the update as the car slows to a stop it stops for about a second then rolls for maybe a 1 4 wheel turn. Uphills it ll roll backwards and every other time it rolls forward. I have the stopping mode set on Hold (always have) so this is no different. Has anyone else noticed this? | Creepysarcasticgeek | 2021-12-11 16:18:13 | 22 | ho9efow | Finally happy to see someone post this. Happens on mine too 2021 MY LR. Annoying. Not sure after which update but it freaks me out. I noticed the same on 2018 MS loaner a few months back and thought it needed maintenance. | terabytekk | 2021-12-12 16:13:56 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
7mmus3 | Different charging speeds effect on battery degradation | Battery degradation seems to be the main thing I think about when it comes to my MS. I hope to not replace my car for well over a decade. Does anybody know if how you charge your battery affects it s longevity? For example I don t yet have a home charger so 99% of my charging is done at either one of the nearby superchargers or via trickle charge at my in-laws. My limited knowledge of Li-Ion tech made me think: - Supercharging as a regular form of charging would be bad because high charge rates can damage the battery hence the slower charge rate from a supercharger as the battery fills up. It also delivers a lot of charge when the battery is potentially quite cold which I hear is bad. However it would also warm the battery a lot which would be better for longevity...? - Trickle charging would generally be a good way of charging for battery longevity (basically the corollary to my points above). On the flip side batteries don t like being highly charged for a long period and trickle charging to 90+% in advance of a long journey means several hours of being over 80% charged rather than just say half an hour. | Collosis | 2017-12-28 14:23:44 | 12 | drv8qad | Someone surveyed a bunch of owners (or pulled data from multiple surveys?) and found that there s only small differences in long-term degradation based on a user s typical charge speed. Unfortunately I can t find the chart my google-fu is failing me. Some points on batteries: * Supercharging slows down because the as the batteries near their charge capacity they cannot accept as much power safely. I don t remember what can be adjusted to try to force more power into batteries to speed up charge time but I do remember it s dangerous - both in a battery degradation sense and in a catch fire sense. Supercharging already generates a significant amount of heat which is why especially on a hot day the cooling system s blowers will be on full blast during the first 50-75% of the charge. (It s loud as hell kinda fun) * Lithium Ion can last significantly longer when you avoid using its full charge capacity repeatedly. Tesla defaults to charging to 90% because that s considered a safe buffer from the top of its capacity there s no need to set to 80% and there s no additional damage being prevented by idling lower than 90%. * At the capacity levels we re talking about there s not a big difference in battery longevity between trickle charging and fast charging. I mean yes technically that is a thing but Tesla s engineers have dealt with it. If you like boring scientific talks Jeff Dahn at Dalhousie University is a great resource. His research team is partnered with Tesla as well so great may even be an understatement. I don t mean this directed specifically at you OP but honestly I m gonna be super annoyed if this subreddit goes the way of r android or other consumer electronics subreddits where people come up with folk engineering cargo cult techniques for improving their devices. Just follow the documentation and it ll work out fine. There s no need to second-guess Tesla s 90% default there s no need to agonize over how much power to give it when you re charging. [The batteries last a long-ass time.](https: electrek.co 2016 11 01 tesla-battery-degradation ) (RE: my first statement about not finding the chart here it is lol) Tesla s build QC may be weak but Tesla s battery engineers know what they re doing. It s OK to trust them. | tuba_man | 2017-12-28 16:41:51 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
3q5zfd | Different learning grids? | Was wondering if anyone knows whether Tesla used different learning grids to train their autopilot. For example a France version and a Germany version. Each with their own trained learning (and prior testing) in those local environments. Or does the autopilot start out with no data and just builds locally? In other words did any specific data for Europe exist before this rolled out? | superOOk | 2015-10-25 16:51:12 | 14 | cwci8kh | I think the beta testers did the baseline data gathering. Then the global release improves it. US drivers on TMC are already reporting improved behavior of the system (myself included) so apparently the machine learning aspect actually does work. Somebody has put a network sniffer out there and found that Tesla is beaming down updates of 25 - 35 mb fairly often so we re assuming those are autopilot learning updates. | majesticjg | 2015-10-25 19:39:44 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
cv5w47 | Different wheel sizes and re-calibrating the system | I m planning on putting an order in for a model S in the next month or so but I was curious about any effects on the system car if I swapped out the wheels from the base 19 rims to 20 rims from T Sportline (or any shop really). What kind of effect would that have on the air suspension in particular? I know the range would be affected somewhat but would I need to get the air suspension system tweaked to account for the slightly bigger tires or would the system be able to figure it out on its own? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I m legitimately curious as to how this would be handled. | kerby720 | 2019-08-25 08:06:57 | 11 | ey2dini | As long as you keep the front and back tires the same revs per mile you should have no problems with calibration. This is a common swap as people change from summer to winter tires. | duke_of_alinor | 2019-08-25 12:25:52 | 5 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
6p67d2 | Differentiating between RC and production car sitings | Do we have a reliable way of telling the difference between RC and production cars? Most of the VINs on production cars have been low digits (3 7 etc) but there was a pic posted today of one 309 which was claimed to be a production car but a VIN that high seems closer to the 316 pic that was stated to be an RC (not to mention all the pics lately stated to be one or the other with no VINs captured). So I m wondering if we have a definitive way to tell the difference? * My first thought was that there may be some clue in the VINs themselves but as far as I can see all the VINs I ve looked at seem to fit with the [same formula documented on the NHTSA site](https: vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov mid home displayfile 33802) with no indication whether it s a production or RC unit. * My next thought was that the stickers are different on some. Some have [a handwritten VIN sticker](http: imgur.com a oR8yC) and [others look more official](http: i.imgur.com TwTv2Lp.jpg) but in this case the RC is the official one and the production is the handwritten one which makes me think that s probably not a reliable indicator... * I hadn t noticed this but someone said the production units have arrows on the steering wheels while the RCs don t? * Obviously the panel gaps are pretty bad on some of the RCs and should be much better on the production units but that doesn t seem consistently definitive. * The cars have been seen with different types of license plates but it doesn t sound to me like there s a consistent differentiation there either. Would love to hear some feedback on how we know which is which without confirmation from Tesla in each instance. **EDIT**: Forgot to mention that both battery stickers and HUDs seem to be equally hard to spot on either version of the car. (*Because you know someone was going to say it...*) | amazonian_raider | 2017-07-24 04:37:37 | 10 | dkmx745 | It s worth noting that the last few digits of the VIN have to be UNIQUE they do not have to be SEQUENTIAL. It s entirely possible that due to the nuances of production planning a car with serial 00500 might roll off the line before 00450 just because of batching queues. | run-the-joules | 2017-07-24 04:40:07 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2rjwvm | Difficulty with buying a non-Tesla (because it can t compare?) | Anyone else have this problem? I test drove a Model S drooled all over it. Fell wildly madly passionately in love with it. Thought it was a smart investment. Saved for awhile and then met with my financial adviser who strongly urged me not to buy it. So now I am in need of a new car and nothing comes close. I want fuel efficiency (although I d prefer electric). So electric options are pretty limited. Prius-V Leaf Volt i etc. Most don t get anywhere near the range have limited options and frankly are terribly unexciting. I want AWD but that negates the fuel efficiency. Subarus are nice and reliable vehicles but I certainly can t get 40MPG or higher from them. I want safety but only the Prius V makes the IIHS list for electric cars and only Subarus reliably make that list. I want fun but only the WRX meets most of the above categories. The WRX is a nice driver s car with lots of sport but sitting in one after sitting in a Model S is a far different experience. I feel like Tesla ruined all other cars for me and I can t spend my money on any other car and feel like I m going to be happy with my purchase. | chiv | 2015-01-06 21:00:48 | 15 | cngjtdw | Please do the responsible thing and tell your financial adviser to fuck off. | FredTesla | 2015-01-06 21:15:44 | 60 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bk2bis | Dig into 150kW vs 120kW Supercharging(V2) with charts | Took 26 data points from the [video](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=D_jM4JkL32A) and made three charts. & #x200B 1. Power vs. SOC 2. SOC vs. Time 3. Time reduced (%) vs. SOC & #x200B 150kW SC performed well only in pre-50% session. I guess it will perform better with another test in perfect condition. & #x200B At 79% the 120kW-car stopped charging for 69 seconds. I deducted the time. So 120kW is actually 12s faster than 150kW in this 5%-90% test. & #x200B & #x200B https: i.redd.it 9qy2jzm96wv21.png https: i.redd.it d9qzb5296wv21.png https: i.redd.it fxoaxcb86wv21.png | Evan147 | 2019-05-03 00:36:37 | 20 | emdgqjf | Tomorrow night we will be reperforming the same past but with six different cars to try and rule out any inconsistencies. are suspicions after that tests are that the supercharger may have been at its thermal limits with regards to the charge cable | Hubris_draws_stuff | 2019-05-03 02:06:20 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
ceg98s | Dilemma with choosing Model 3+ over 3- for £500 extra | I m from the UK. Just been on the phone to Tesla and they can replace the 3- order I made with a 3+ (i.e. firmer suspension better brakes spoiler and track mode) for £500 extra. I really wanted the 18 wheels though because they provide better range a smoother and slightly quieter ride less prone to pot hole damage (pot holes are worse in the UK than the US apparently) and are also much cheaper to replace the tyres when the time comes. So hence the dilemma. What would you guys do? Can I fit 18 tyres on these supposed 20 wheels? If not is it easy to sell and replace the 20 wheels and tyres with 18 wheels and tyres? Would I lose a lot of money doing that? I asked the sales rep if the suspension could be adjusted easily to be less firm and he said no it s fundamentally different hardware to the 3- suspension. So once you go with either suspension you can t easily adjust to the firmer or softer suspension. I have a Celica 2003 car. How does the suspension on that compare to either the P3- or P3+? The brakes and track mode of the P+ tempt me but to be honest who even tracks their only expensive car? Is that even a done thing? Having said that even as a beginner I expect there s no chance of damaging the car if I were to track it on a course without bricks walls hedges trees etc. (just all being flat plain and level with the road itself). | twinbee | 2019-07-17 17:51:14 | 22 | eu2dttd | By the nature of your questions it definitely sounds like you d prefer the non + car. For comfort efficiency and range. In this case paying 500 seems to move you further from your goals. | gaudreauslashed | 2019-07-17 18:25:41 | 7 | Tire and Wheel Maintenance |
hr5vtg | Diminished Value Offer | I was rear ended in February and finally got everything fixed (~8k in repairs). I am going through the diminished value claim with the drivers insurance company (Liberty Mutual) and they responded with a offer of $2100. From what I ve read the diminished value offer is somewhat subjective but has anyone been in a similar accident and does this seem like a reasonable offer? Curious if I should push back for more or for once an insurance company didn t try to completely low ball an offer. 2018 Model 3 AWD - 19k miles - Enhanced Auto Pilot Edit: I live in MA and the accident happened in MA | shreddish | 2020-07-14 17:33:21 | 21 | fy26sbe | I was in an accident with my M3 (BMW not Tesla). I got a diminished value appraisal from dvcheck.com . It cost $300 and the guy was awesome and super helpful... The appraisal was detailed and he walked me through what letters to send to the insurance company. I think they ll give you a free estimate and then you can decide if its worth getting the full appraisal to provide to the insurance company. My appraisal came back with $7000 in diminished value (my $42 000 vehicle was worth $35k after the accident). I presented this to StateFarm and they outright denied me. They basically refuse to believe that any amount of diminished value is legitimate even after showing them 3 written offers at below the $35k appraisal. I am suing them right now kind of a pain.. but I m also enjoying figuring out the legal system. | ljump12 | 2020-07-14 18:14:24 | 29 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
93uh86 | Direct Delivery Scheduled | Blue AWD aero. Day 1 line waiter ordered June 29. Heard nothing aside from an email to ask me to confirm my details online. Then suddently I received an email this afternoon from a delivery advisor asking to once again confirm my details and respond to the email in order to get a delivery date. I confirmed as soon as I could (in under 30 minutes) and received a call from said advisor 2-3 minutes later. The advisor said my vehicle would be available as soon as Thursday of next week but upon checking the schedule she was able to put me down for Wednesday instead. She said that my vehicle would be delivered directly to my door. I asked if this was that new car-in-a-trailer thing that started last week but she said there would be no trailer and instead the car is being driven by a Model 3 specialist to my door. This detail was confirmed by follow-up email. Also my advisor said the service team would reach out as soon as they have the parts to schedule an appointment for installation for the AWD badging . I also have my VIN now (was not available until I got the call). Sorry if any of this is old news. I hadn t seen anybody else post about direct delivery without a trailer. | Sentrion | 2018-08-02 00:09:54 | 52 | e3g66mt | took a direct delivery yesterday. Was expecting a trailer but delivery specialist drove the car to my home than took an uber back. The walkthrough was very thorough and took at least 45 minutes going over things. | Basednam | 2018-08-02 01:14:06 | 20 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
b2s72v | Direct Response to SB 1415 from Senator Hancock | For those that don t know Senator Hancock issued a response to his bill that many here deemed to be the end of Tesla service centers in Texas. He basically says his bill has no intention of prohibiting OEMs from servicing their own vehicles and that his billed has been misinterpreted by the media. [https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf](https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf) I read the response and offered my take on how the wording does not necessarily mean doom and gloom for Tesla service centers in Texas in [another post](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments b2hvj6 texas_sb_1415_national_concern eiu6atp). I went ahead and emailed Hancock s contact in his press release and this is what they had to say: > Caity and Senator Hancock > > Your[ press release](https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf) states that SB 1415 won t impact how cars from any manufacturer are serviced and repaired. After reading the bill can you please explain how exactly this is the case? Section C talks about OEMs being prohibited from having any stake with any franchise dealerships and that some of the activities that dealerships are involved in include servicing and repair. But since Tesla and other OEMs like Rivian and John Deer do not have any dealerships then this bill would NOT apply to them at all? Is that correct? > > \-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > FROM: Caity Jackson < [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])\> > > Yes your interpretation sounds accurate. Thank you for taking the time to contact us directly to clarify. > > When reading legislation it s helpful to note that the language that is underlined is new language provided by the bill the language with a line through it is being removed from code by the bill and the rest is already current statute. Below is a full reply: > > The current definition of franchised dealer in Texas code is: (16) Franchised dealer means a person who: (A) holds a franchised motor vehicle dealer s license issued by the board under this chapter and Chapter 503 Transportation Code and (B) is engaged in the business of buying selling or exchanging new motor vehicles and servicing or repairing motor vehicles under a manufacturer s warranty at an established and permanent place of business under a franchise in effect with a manufacturer or distributor. [https: statutes.capitol.texas.gov SOTWDocs OC htm OC.2301.htm](https: statutes.capitol.texas.gov SOTWDocs OC htm OC.2301.htm) > > That seems to be where the confusion is coming from… > > **SB 1415 does not change the definition of franchised dealer or dealership. ** It simply references the various elements of the existing definitions for the sake of adding clarifying language that to use the Senator s apples and oranges analogy from [his statement](https: senate.texas.gov members d09 press en p20190318a.pdf) a manufacturer of an orange MAY own an interest in a dealership that buys sells exchanges services or repairs an apple. The key language in the bill is same type. Is that clear? That s why he called it a step in the free market direction the law as-is has been interpreted as banning manufacturers of certain types of vehicles from selling vehicles other than what they manufacture and we re trying to correct that. > > **Secondly the bill (and the portion of code it s modifying) is about dealers and dealerships not service or repair centers.** It just references servicing and repairing as examples of things that dealers and dealerships do *per the definition already codified elsewhere in statute*. Since we are not modifying the actual definition just referencing it Tesla service centers would not be impacted by this legislation in any way. > > All of this notwithstanding as the Senator s statement said he was open to belts-and-suspenders language to assuage anyone s concerns… instead we seem to be on the receiving end of a misinformation campaign. > > Again thank you for taking the time to contact us directly and we d be happy to help provide any additional necessary clarification. > > Best > > Caity & #x200B With these responses unless there s more legal quirks in the language of the bill I believe we have nothing to worry about concerning Tesla service centers not just in Texas but in the entire US. & #x200B | ElectricGlider | 2019-03-19 03:14:56 | 53 | eiupcx2 | Then what exactly does this bill do? In simple language please Why is this bill necessary? | malbrour | 2019-03-19 03:18:43 | 38 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
b8rhkg | Disable Auto lock on walk away at my house? | I love the autolock feature when I walk away. However I have a secure garage and would prefer to leave the car unlocked in the garage. Anyway to disable this at home or do I just need to write my own script? | mcowger | 2019-04-03 00:58:06 | 17 | ejzpxb9 | I agree this should be easily implemented given that the garage opener is location aware. I wish they could add this feature. | hotdeck | 2019-04-03 01:18:46 | 8 | Tesla phone key functionality |
ep3tig | Disable Rear Seatbelt Warning for Empty Car seat? | Is there a way to disable this? The car seat is heavy enough to trigger the warning when my kids aren t back there buckled up. The service center recommended leaving the seat belt buckled when the seat is not in use. That s what I ve been doing so far. It seems like this could be a useful feature to have for various scenarios for the back seats. | lohre_ | 2020-01-15 15:38:19 | 31 | fegugcm | When the warning comes up tap the icon and it ll switch it to car-seat mode and it won t alert you. | tynamic77 | 2020-01-15 15:39:49 | 51 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8hbrgi | Disable radio on start | Is there a way to make the radio not start when I get in my car? I can mute it but it just unmutes next time. | mjurek | 2018-05-06 00:53:47 | 32 | dyil8ht | Lower the volume to x instead of mute may work... | t0mmyr | 2018-05-06 01:16:46 | 7 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
7dadhy | Disable rear seatbelt warning? | I think my toddler finally weighs enough that when she is in the car seat (secured with LATCH) I get the rear seat belt warning message on the center screen as well as the 2nd screen. This appears to prevent the navigation instructions from showing on the 2nd screen. Anyone know if this can be resolved in the settings? | babyandbailey | 2017-11-16 05:43:24 | 16 | dpwb6cq | I have the same issue and no I haven t found anyway around it other than to plug in the belt. | silverwolfe08 | 2017-11-16 06:15:23 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
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