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4nwdr2 | Car (Model S) is awesome Customer service...meh | Soo...I got a 85D in December 2015. Its awesome easily the best car I ve ever owned. A few times unlocking the charge port seemed to be a pain and recently the little lug that drops down and keeps the cable in place....got stuck down and the button no longer retracts it. End result...I can no longer charge my car. & nbsp Thats fine because they send a transporter to go take the car 90+ miles to London o fix it. Problem is that was six days ago...and I still havent been told that the car is even being looked at yet (I get a call each weekday telling me its still in the queue ). & nbsp I m not mega inconvenienced as we have another car (they offered me a loan anyway but I declined) but frankly I want my car fixed and returned now. For a £70k car I don t expect to be kept waiting a week for someone to swap out a fairly obviously faulty component. Like I say car is awesome but I owned a lexus for 5 years without a single problem whatsoever. This one...not looking so good. Edit: It was fixed (apparently) today (15th). They offered to send it back tomorrow (they couldn t today) but by coincidence I m travelling very near the service center on friday morning so I said I might as well collect it in person then. Hopefully its all fixed now. | cliffski | 2016-06-13 16:19:53 | 29 | d47hbf3 | Why didn t you take the loaner was it not a Tesla? | Archometron | 2016-06-13 16:35:33 | 12 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
di4hfd | Car Alarm After Software Update | Just [had our vehicle alarm](https: forums.tesla.com forum forums software-update-triggers-car-alarm) go off after a software update completed. Manual trigger from iOS app of software update (2019.32.12.2) car alarm went off in a closed garage. - 2016 Model S 75. Guess it s better than having your doors left unlocked after an update but still. Looks like it isn t fleet-wide but is definitely happening to a few people. FYI. | bemental_ | 2019-10-15 07:46:25 | 28 | f3tb2w8 | Same. 2 updates in a row now. Nice new Feature . ) Esp since I run my updates late at night... I m sure the neighbors are impressed. (2016 s90d early hw 2.0) | notofox | 2019-10-15 07:50:31 | 10 | Tesla phone key functionality |
k41tj6 | Car Blinker Feature Request: Allow Driver to Choose Default Number of Blinks for a Half Press of Blinker Wand | My previous car (Hyundai Ioniq) had this feature and I was suprised to learn that my M3 LR does not have this option. I think it would make the blinker easier to use. My old car allowed you to select how many blinks you would get for a half press of the blinker wand. Right now on my M3 a half press of the blinker wand will give me 3 blinks. A full press of the blinker wand will turn the blinker on until I make a turn. Like my old car I wish my M3 would allow me to choose between 3 5 or 7 blinks for a half press of the blinker wand. On my old car I was used to having 5 blinks for a half press. It was great for changing lanes on the highway or in other situations. Sorry if this has already been proposed. Just an idea. | scapegoat827 | 2020-11-30 18:28:10 | 158 | ge67gta | Agreed I want more than 3 blinks! | onelovebraj | 2020-11-30 18:29:07 | 55 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
2564zb | Car Buying Process and After Purchase Maintenance Impressions | I did a quick search in this subreddit so as not to repeat other posts but I couldn t find a comprehensive post about the entire car buying process from beginning to end and then the after purchase maintenance activities to keep the car running smoothly. I was hoping some of the owners here would be able to shed some light on their experience and impressions. No detail too small. What I m wondering about are things like: How was the website when putting your order in? If there was a local Tesla store in your area did you go to it and was it beneficial for your purchase? Was there any negotiation in price? How did the test drive work? How was the delivery? Garage charging installation? Anything else that s worth noting about the buying process? Then after the purchase what kind of maintenance activities have you had to do? Are there service charges for things like routine oil changes (or whatever the equivalent EV work is)? How often? Loaner cars or they pick you up from your house? Again anything else worth noting? I m looking into buying a new car now. The Model S is on the very top of my list of cars I want but I m not sure how practical it is from a financial standpoint for me. So if I can t afford it at least I can live vicariously through you guys. | bpw4h | 2014-05-09 23:42:56 | 12 | che4n8k | Good luck on your research. Other places you should check out: * [Forums on the teslamotors.com site](http: www.teslamotors.com forums) * [Forums on the teslamotorsclub.com site](http: www.teslamotorsclub.com ) Both of those sites have similar threads about the buying process. Below are my recent experiences. I can t talk to the maintenance piece since I just got mine 5 weeks ago but the buying process is fresh in my mind. **How was the website when putting your order in?** Very smooth. I m in Texas so I had to purchase from the website. Upon submitting your order and putting down the $2500 deposit you have 2 weeks to change your mind or change your configuration before your order gets finalized and sent to production. (I was 100% sure of my configuration so I confirmed my order immediately in order to get it into production asap). **If there was a local Tesla store in your area did you go to it and was it beneficial for your purchase?** No Tesla store but I did visit the service center a couple times for my 2 test drives. That s when I was introduced to some of the Tesla specialists whom I worked with throughout the process. The test drives were important for me and very enlightening. Not to mention a lot of fun. **Was there any negotiation in price?** Nope. **How did the test drive work?** Again because I m in Texas I couldn t simply walk in for a test drive. Tesla has a series of drive demonstration events (basically test drives) that they would host out of the service centers. [You can find a schedule of them here.](http: www.teslamotors.com events) **How was the delivery?** Very smooth. During the waiting period you can login to get status on your car. For 5 weeks my car was in sourcing parts mode. Then 1 week was spent in production . Finally it entered prepping for delivery . A delivery specialist called me to setup a time to pick up the car. I went over with my wife spent about 30 minutes on a walkthrough (it could ve been longer but I was already familiar with a lot of it thanks to the countless hours of research I d done) and drove off. **Garage charging installation?** I went with a NEMA 14-50 outlet. I contacted to Tesla to see who they recommended in my area but their estimate was pretty high. I called around and got a cheaper rate from a local electrician. It doesn t matter who you go with as long as they do it right. **Anything else that s worth noting about the buying process?** Because of the goofy laws in Texas I was personally responsible for registering the car and paying sales tax. If you live in Texas PM me and I can give you more details. EDIT: As far as maintenance I purchased the 4 year pre-paid service which basically buys you 4 service appointments - 1 every year or every 12.5k miles. [My understanding is those cover a lot of the routine maintenance and parts replacements.](http: www.teslamotors.com service# service-plans) Safety related issues (such as the new titanium underbody reinforcement) are done for free and do not require an official service visit. Each appointment runs $600 but you get a discount if you pre-pay for them. | hootyhoot | 2014-05-10 01:21:04 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
f4ef12 | Car Damaged During HW3 upgrade - no way of contacting service Centre for resolution | Wondering if anyone has tried to deal with Tesla in a similar situation. On Thursday I took my M3P to have the HW3 upgrade performed (yay!). Overall the service went super smoothly I dropped off the car at 8:30AM and had it back by 1:30PM the same day. Tesla was very good about seeing that I got a rental. I picked up my car did the standard look around to see that there were no major dents or dings - everything was fine so I went on to my next appointment. As I was walking out of that appointment towards my car I was at the right angle to see a some scuffs against the bottom of the front bumper (similar to what you get when running the bumper against a curb or steep driveway). Certainly not the most horrible damage but still disappointing as I am very careful with keeping my cars in perfect shape. I am almost certain that the damage occurred during service as I had just installed my new mudflats the previous day and definitely would have noticed as I was fitting those. I tried to call the service centre but there s no way to get a hold of the service department. Furthermore in the Tesla app my car is still showing ready for pickup and I have no option to make a service appointment as it seems like Tesla s system has not updated to show that my car is out of service. What kind of recourse do I have? I guess I could go back to the service center is that my only option? Any advice appreciated. link to picture of damage: https: imgur.com 3q0FNPk | Baby_Doomer | 2020-02-15 19:36:25 | 43 | fhpvzaq | I had them curb my X before. They had the rims repaired. This was back when service was good. I had my 3 listed as ready to pick up for weeks (and nobody answered their phones) until I got a semi-rude email about coming to get my car. I told them I ve had it for almost a month and they apologized. I debated going in and asking for it just to see what they d do... | SparkySpecter | 2020-02-15 19:43:28 | 50 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
6rvnxl | Car Insurance Information - Model 3 | Hey guys - upgrading from my 04 RX-8 to Model 3 and told my insurance company that I should be receiving it before March. They are needing the following information about the 3. Is there a spec sheet somewhere that lists EVERYTHING about it? Daytime Running Lights Anti-Lock Brakes Electronic Stability Control Adaptive Cruise Control Collision Preparation System Blind Spot Warning Lane Departure Warning Adaptive Headlights Rear View Camera Driver Alertness | wiidsmoker | 2017-08-06 01:32:59 | 10 | dl86ck5 | What happened to that startup that gives cheaper rates for Teslas with autopilot? | ChemtrailDreams | 2017-08-06 03:12:24 | 9 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
e8yng4 | Car Needs Service. Car May Not Restart. | The mobile app gave me an appointment that s a week out - but there is no way I m driving around in a midwest winter for a week wondering if the car is going to start when I get back inside. So I called Tesla Service at the normal store that I visit but didn t talk to anyone because apparently they no longer pick up the phone. I emailed the old Customer Service email address and received an automatic reply directing me to the website. The website gives me a lot of options to buy things but none to actually help me get an appointment or talk to someone about a service issue. So here I am with a car in the garage that I m scared to drive because it might not restart and a company that seemingly couldn t give two shits if I can t use if for the better part of a week. Can anyone here help? Is this the current state of Tesla Support? I ve never had an experience this bad from them everything has been 10+ up until now. | mlloyd | 2019-12-10 23:27:35 | 31 | fafe7wy | Drive to the SC | henh2o | 2019-12-10 23:29:25 | 43 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
fkxbqp | Car Pickup in COVID-19 World | Does anyone know if Tesla is making any modifications to Model Y pickups to accomodate CDC recommendations around COVID-19? We received notification that we can pickup on Saturday which is obviously exciting but also don t want to be irresponsible. Checking in on whether anyone else has similar concerns or maybe Tesla has made modifications addressed and I just haven t seen it. (Also I ve never actually done a Tesla pickup to know what it s like - maybe there s little interaction and a non concern?) | walkinshawc | 2020-03-18 21:13:49 | 17 | fkvbzmw | Some places are doing quick handoff I m guessing they skip the tutorial which is the only portion of the process that requires you to be near anybody besides handing them the check of course. | tp1996 | 2020-03-18 21:15:39 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
mo3n4i | Car Spotify auto-plays whenever I open a door and for my sanity I need help | I ve looked all over Tesla forums and can t find a fix--I m really hoping someone here has the same problem and can help. I use the built-in Spotify app with premium connectivity and it doesn t matter if I pause the music before I leave or not it will still auto play when I open any door. This is ESPECIALLY frustrating when the last thing I listened to is a podcast and I lose my place because of it. I don t see any way on spotify s end to turn off auto-play or anything. I don t see how people would want their car to do this every time but please let me know if there s a fix out there or I m doing something wrong. | Naturebrah | 2021-04-10 12:18:22 | 55 | gu1c3e4 | I love this feature when I m listening to music but you re right - it s annoying with podcasts. If I m listening to a podcast I ll often click the left scroll wheel as I m exiting the car to pause the podcast. Not perfect but could solve your problem until software is released 👍🏼 | Impressive_Heron_314 | 2021-04-10 12:30:08 | 40 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
8g1jya | Car Vandalism | I ve seen a couple of posts here showing people deliberately damaging other people s Tesla s. Is that common? I don t live in a bad neighborhood by any means but just by having a Tesla I feel like people would see you and it as a target. Any one else feel this way? I d never intentionally damage another person s car but I know there are others out there who would. | OrangeFractal | 2018-04-30 18:11:54 | 10 | dy85098 | In my personal experience: I drove mine for Lyft (edit: 600 rides over the course of a year) so I was out and about a lot and this wasn t an issue. I had two incidents I can think of that qualified as hateful: I had a giant pickup truck driver (the vehicle was giant driver was average-ish?) yell fuck your tesla at me before speeding off and a cabbie with a decommissioned cop car blasted me with his brights before yelling about ride sharing fucking him over. (At least the cabbie has actual if incidental wage suppression going for his argument there but come on man) In a wider sense: I would imagine that so far Teslas are probably targeted about as much as any other rich people car - for example in some people s minds it s less of a problem to key a fancy car for parking badly because fuck em they can afford a paint repair if they don t follow easy responsibilities. (Not excusing just trying to follow the logic) I d be curious to see how that changes as the Model 3 gets around maybe the population at large starts seeing Tesla owners as a cross between BMW and Prius drivers? Who knows we ll see. I think though the important thing here is that this is a Tesla-focused subreddit. If you re subscribed you re going to see more news - good and bad - about Tesla vehicles. So it may *seem* like they get vandalized a lot but when you account for natural biases Teslas probably aren t all that targeted in the grand scheme of things. (like I think the Spotlight effect applies here? or maybe it s called immediacy bias? Whatever it is where something seems like a bigger problem because you just happen to see more of it) | tuba_man | 2018-04-30 18:41:01 | 33 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
u3qkgg | Car Wash Mode No Longer Requires to be in Park to Activate | Discovered this when going through today - assuming it was added during the last update | The_Buttaman | 2022-04-14 20:27:15 | 88 | i4s1gvz | Is it just me or is putting the car in neutral more difficult than is needs to be? | phxees | 2022-04-15 01:33:05 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
hdd81d | Car automatically closes vented windows when raining | It would be really nice if the parked car would automatically close its vented windows when the car s front camera notices rain appearing on camera. Literally just happened to me I forgot I had my windows vented while it was raining outside. Edit: As suggested in the comments section a prompt from the Tesla app asking if you would like to close the vented windows during rain fall would alteast be very beneficial for the forgetful owners. | Hutcherdun | 2020-06-21 19:48:23 | 392 | fvkhph9 | You would have to have sentry mode on or it wouldn t know it was raining. | hoppeeness | 2020-06-21 20:11:24 | 103 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
74sufl | Car broken into no alarm? Also replacement question. | Model S was broken into drivers side rear quarter window. No alarm went off. https: imgur.com a cMp88. This was at Valley Fair mall in SJ. Not sure if anything was taken yet. Is replacement pretty straightforward? Are there any other claims I should consider? Haven t inspected for other damage but will in better lighting. | supermanava | 2017-10-07 04:21:36 | 28 | do0wfmx | That blows sorry to hear. Sounds like this is becoming a serious problem in the South Bay right now :( edit: Did you leave the shopping bags on the back seat or did they get into the trunk? | run-the-joules | 2017-10-07 04:50:34 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dfnywv | Car buyer seriously considering Tesla X. Had a few questions. | 1. Is there enough space for 7 ? 2. Were you able to negotiate the price down like regular car dealers ? How many dollars did you negotiate down? 3. Any experience with pre owned vehicles ? 4. Anything else that I should know any pros or cons ? 5. Have you ever had to take a detour on your planned road trip just because there were no charging stations on the original route ? I mean more than a few miles ? 6. Did your insurance go up or down ? 7. What s the more preferred method - lease or finance ? My state has no sales tax on electric but no state incentives. I still get $1875 federal credit. | nastygeek | 2019-10-09 21:45:55 | 16 | f34pt8z | I don t own one but I have test driven one so take this with a grain of salt: 1. Yes! 2. Not a dealer you pay the price of the car. 3. Don t go earlier than 2017 2016 s have had known reliability issues especially with the doors 4. It s too awesome for it s own good great for lazy people (Don t even need to open your own doors!) 5. Check out the Tesla Trip Planner - It ll give you a good idea of how far you can go with the configuration you re looking at [https: www.tesla.com trips](https: www.tesla.com trips) 6. Can t comment for an X but my insurance only went up a little bit when buying my 3. I previously owned a 2004 Accord 7. This is personal preference but I don t like the idea of leasing a car I d rather finance. | tynamic77 | 2019-10-09 21:51:05 | 14 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dgp07k | Car buyer seriously considering Tesla X. Part II | First of all thanks for all the comments on my previous post. You guys were really honest and supportive. So they are giving me model X for the weekend to try and see if I like it. I have to return the car Monday unlimited mileage. It s not confirmed yet if I will get a 6 seater long range or 7 seater performance. That i will find out tmrw. I have 2 questions. How can I utilize this time that I have for the maximum experience? What should I try to experience and check out in the car? What all should i do? I will pick up the car Sat 6 pm and return Monday am. I am in Philadelphia PA. And I was thinking of a quick road trip with the family. Where can i go especially for the fall foliage? Also a follow up question. What is the longest road trip you ve made with your Tesla? Did you ever have to choose a hotel that you weren t planning on staying in just becuase it had supercharging or EV charging in general? What are the logistics of planning a road trip involving multiple nights in terms of charging the car? Thanks in advance. | nastygeek | 2019-10-12 02:16:44 | 21 | f3dvvqq | 1. Park the X where you d park it if you owned it. Sounds like a no brainer but do it. Make sure you re comfortable with it. 2. Sit in every seat. While in each seat adjust them accordingly. Move around in them and have others do the same. 3. Play around in the arcade and with the Easter eggs. 4. Turn the stereo up loud! 5. Make a phone call from the steering wheel. 6. Touch the screen... touch it a lot. 7. Drive fast and slow (not at the same time). 8. Park far in the back of a parking lot. Just park in general and open all the doors next to other cars. Be careful though (even if others won t be). 9. Put the suspension Very High and enjoy the view from above. Put the suspension very low and look cool. 10. Smile (this one will actually be happening during 1-9 as well). | FLTodd | 2019-10-12 02:49:56 | 52 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8vpoyc | Car camping legality | Hi everyone As I know Tesla has been a really good platform of car camping. However car camping is not allowed in a lot of places especially where rents are high. Also a lot of highway rest places forbid that as well. Where can I easily find if car camping is in fact allowed? | kuangjian2011 | 2018-07-03 05:32:08 | 32 | e1pbt4z | I think most people are literally *camping* in their Tesla s as opposed to sleeping in their car. Judging off the cost of the car anyway. | rastal3x | 2018-07-03 05:34:12 | 24 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6ptsbz | Car enthusiasts what are the principal reasons that you would absolutely prefer an RWD Model 3? | Isn t RWD more fun to drive with traction control off? Thoughts on whether it will be tuned neutral steer understeer oversteer? What makes you love RWD? | Derfein | 2017-07-27 05:02:18 | 16 | dks4y60 | I consider myself a car enthusiast and would prefer a RWD Model 3 only because it should get me the car sooner. But I m guessing that s not what you mean… A Model 3 (or S) with traction control off would be fun no doubt but it d also absolutely eat tires. | run-the-joules | 2017-07-27 05:07:17 | 18 | Electric Performance Car Comparison |
6wsebv | Car feature I wish Tesla (and other brands) would release in the US. | So last month I went on a trip to Norway. Saw plenty of EVs there but I rented a little Mercedes A-Class -- a small hatchback about the same size as a VW Golf. It had a little 1.8L gas motor and managed about 32mpg of mixed driving (some spirited). This car had one feature that at first I thought was a little strange and by the end of my trip I was in love with. And apparently (according to my friends in Norway) it s fairly common in some cars in Europe? Mercedes branded the feature as Speedtronic Limit but other manufacturers might call it something different. It was sort of like cruise control but not quite. You used the same cruise control stalk to activate and set it but it was essentially an electronic speed limit. So if the road I was on had a limit of 60kmh I would set the limiter to 60kmh. If I floored the gas pedal it would fully accelerate until I hit 60kmh and then would cut off at that limit and wouldn t go above it. It could be set to any speed. A big press of the stalk up or down changed the limit in intervals of 10kmh and a small press changed it by 1 s. At first I thought it was pretty stupid. Why would you do that when you could just set cruise control? And then I realized two great uses for it: bad weather and twisty roads. Let s start with bad weather. When it s snowy or rainy outside (which is quite often in Norway) you don t want to set your cruise control. Modern cruise control systems are leagues better than the old throttle cable locks or pneumatic systems of decades past but still aren t perfect. And if you set your cruise in bad weather you might run into a situation where your vehicle looses traction and the wheels keep spinning to maintain speed leading to a loss of control. With the limiter set you re not driving on cruise control -- but you can set the limit to a reasonable speed per conditions. And then with your foot flat on the floor you know you re traveling a certain speed without having to constantly look down at your gauges and you have full control of the throttle should things get slippery. Likewise on twisty roads it is downright wonderful. Let s say the road had a limit of 70kmh. But it s fairly twisty. Even though the limit is 70 you can t do that speed flat out through every corner. So by setting the limiter you can drive based on the road itself -- slowing down for corners and speeding up on straight parts -- without having to worry about inadvertently going over the speed limit and angering a rural police officer. It also works great in areas with speed cameras (which is pretty much everywhere in Norway). You set the limiter and don t have to worry about breaking the speed limit while going past several cameras. If you pushed the pedal all the way down there was a second detent that sort of functioned like a push to pass feature. If you pressed down it would temporarily suspend the limit so that you could accelerate around slow traffic or something. Then when you backed off the accelerator the limit would resume. I know Tesla is pushing the Model 3 to be driven autonomously as often as possible but they re also trying to market it as a driver s car. And a speed limiter feature can be a driver s best friend -- ensuring their heavy foot doesn t get them in trouble. While I m a current Model 3 reservation holder I don t plan on getting FSD (though I will get EAP for those slow highway commutes). And when I take the car out on some back roads where a small town sheriff is waiting to make a quick buck I would love a feature that would help me watch my speed while still giving me full control of the throttle. | cabarne4 | 2017-08-29 16:33:46 | 46 | dmafjba | I had a speed limiter function on my Kia Cee d but my newer Optima doesn t have it. I found it quite useful in some of the situations you describe. Sometimes I want to drive the car but have the assurance that I won t accidentally exceed the limit. This is especially true in residential areas where it s easy to exceed exceptionally low 20mph limits but where cruise control isn t practical. | dst87 | 2017-08-29 17:19:18 | 15 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
bdgm2i | Car got towed sentry mode did not film | So my car got towed last night while I was at dinner in Orlando. When I returned to the parking lot my car was nowhere to be found yet my app stated it was right where I left it. When I got to the impound I looked the car over and noticed a few large scratches on the front bumper. I had detailed the car the day before so I m pretty sure it was damaged in their handling but was hoping to use my sentry mode footage to prove it. So today when looking through my footage it only captured video of me looking over the car at impound even though I had sentry on. Super bummed. How does getting towed not create enough of a disturbance to alarm or even film? Why does the car s GPS not update if the wheels haven t moved. Edit: Car is on version 2019.8.3 | eyyopomps | 2019-04-15 14:28:32 | 100 | eky3b7o | Tesla GPS has never updated while being towed. Car has to go into drive to update GPS location. Pretty severe limitation IMHO. I m sure hundreds if not thousands of Tesla owners have noticed this in the last 6ish years. Tweet Elon hope he notices? | EOMIS | 2019-04-15 15:36:16 | 91 | Tesla Sentry Mode Setup |
d97app | Car hard breaks as I approach cars in adjacent lanes | I m having an issue with autopilot on my 3 that never seemed to affect my mother s model x. Whenever I m about to pass another car that s in the adjacent lane in either autopilot or cruise the car tends to hit the brakes. I ve watched it on the dash a couple of times and it seems like it thinks the other car is drifting into my lane (the other car turns red) when it is in fact still in its own lane. I m not sure if this is hardware or software related but it happens pretty frequently to the point where I can t use AP or Cruise if other cars are around. The lines on the interstate are pretty faded so I m wondering if that is throwing AP off. I live in Des Moines IA so any other Iowa owners that could chime in would be great or anyone who has experienced this same issue. & #x200B Edit: Brakes\* sorry guys! Edit 2: https: streamable.com zeqi7 Here s what it usually looks like. Kinda seems like one sensor is off and the other corrects it. | kilkarazy | 2019-09-25 18:22:16 | 12 | f1f2vtx | Could be a calibration issue. I d schedule a service center visit if it happens too often. My Model 3 will do that sometimes but it s a pretty rare occurrence. | maybeandroid | 2019-09-25 18:25:27 | 8 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
5o8eui | Car names... | Hey curious what folks have picked. Our family agreed to Quietly Confident last week which is a bit ironic because apparently Elon is a Banks fan too. If it were just me I d have picked Mistake Not... but then it doesn t have rocket launchers and shit. We liked it for the subtle reference to the quiet drive and the fact that it is a fucking monster dressed like a crossover. | guzzle | 2017-01-16 03:15:49 | 28 | dchirqh | Toothless. Yes it s black. | fastspinecho | 2017-01-16 04:48:41 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
343cwx | Car price adjustments in 48 hours in non-U.S countries due to strong U.S dollar. Car cost going up. | I just placed my order for a new 70D. I m in Canada and my sales rep let me know that Tesla is set to adjust pricing across the board due to the strong U.S dollar and stagnant Canadian dollar. It was also mentioned that this is possibly the case in other markets as well. If you re thinking about getting a car soon put your orders in before the next 48 hours as I was told the Canadian price would rise 5% before tax. This is in no way official and I m not affiliated with Tesla Motors but thought I d pass along what my sales rep told me. He s a cool standup guy with 0 pressure tactics so I trust him enough to take it at his word. | Earthness2000 | 2015-04-27 23:55:44 | 22 | cqqwxjc | To lock in the price would you need to also confirm your order making the deposit non refundable? Or is it locked in the moment you place the order? Not that it impacts me I m in the US and already have a Model S just curious. Never really thought about it but I do remember there being some verbiage about the final price being calculated later in the process when I put the deposit down. Can t remember specifics though. | rabidchinchilla | 2015-04-28 00:55:28 | 5 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
8avaef | Car saved us from being in a wreck. | I never knew the car had this capability but I m amazed. I was driving home when a car began to drift into my lane and all of the sudden the car put the brakes on. I didn t touch anything until the car was already slowing down. If it weren t for the auto braking I would be making a service center appointment right now. | haunsman | 2018-04-09 02:54:24 | 177 | dx1waw0 | You would be making more than a service center appointment I bet. Thank you Elon *and Tesla engineers* for making one of the safest cars on the road today. | teslafanatic3 | 2018-04-09 03:34:25 | 83 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
pae3qs | Car seat + Rear HVAC Safety Concern | Does anyone else think if a rear seat is set as having a child seat in it HVAC should always run in the rear seats? Here s my scenario… Preface: I m aware that the M3 uses the same seat weight sensors used for the seatbelt warnings to determine whether or not to turn on front passenger and rear HVAC vents. My son Oliver has out grown his infant car seat and we recently upgraded to a rear-facing convertible car seat for him to grown into. The previous car seats weight and position on the seat was enough to trigger the weight sensor for the seatbelt warning. I switched it the car seat setting and all was well. I put in the new car seat and didn t think anything about it. Then my wife and I went on a trip while her parents watched our son - I put the car seat in their car while we were away and I turned off the car seat setting for that seat. After our trip and reinstalling the car seat I noticed the seat belt warning wasn t triggered (even when my son is in it likely due to the way it sits on the rear bench seat) so the AC was never blowing in the rear unless I turned it on manually. I figured no big deal… I just need remove the car seat and have someone sit there so I can re-enable car seat mode in that seat and I bet the AC will start blowing again without needing to remember to turn it on manually. I did that - but I still have to turn the AC on manually in the rear. I had someone sit in another rear seat and the AC turns on in the rear automatically. This tells me turning AC on is solely based on the weight sensors. I find this extremely unsafe. I think Tesla needs to do 2 things here for the safety of children in the rear seat: 1) Don t rely solely on the weight sensor to trigger the HVAC to turn on in the rear seats. If any one of the rear seats has the car seat mode turned on OR a rear weight sensor is triggered HVAC should run in the rear. This would handle the case when a car seat doesn t trigger the weight sensor. (And would put my mind at ease) 2) Allow you to switch a seat to car seat mode without first requiring the weight sensor to be triggered. It seems their intention for the car seat mode was simply to stop the “seatbelt unfastened” nag. But if my first suggestion were to become a thing it would be useful to be able to enable a seat as having a car seat in it so that it handles the case where the car seat doesn t trigger the weight sensor and you don t have to do the weird seat shuffle I had to do with someone else sitting in the seat just to turn car seat mode back on. Curious if anyone else has experienced this or thinks this would be a worthy feature? | mertzpgh | 2021-08-24 02:08:35 | 28 | ha62u9h | I thought it was tied to the use of seat belts in the rear seats? Also I don t see how it s extremely unsafe ? If you re using climate in the front it s not like the rear of the car is going to be significantly hotter if the rear vent is off. We keep the car right around 70 year round and frequently my kids ask for the rear vent to be turned off while driving. | zeek215 | 2021-08-24 14:58:32 | 43 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
jzsvce | Car sickness | M3 owner since March. Wife regularly complains of car sickness. Turning regenerative braking to low improved but did not completely alleviate the issue. I think its due to micro braking due to inconsistent pressure on the pedal while at highway speeds. Anyone else have this issue? Would be nice to have a highway feature that kicks it in only when physically braking - some sort of cruising mode. | OldGrumpy | 2020-11-23 23:08:42 | 16 | gdds61c | Use cruise control and tell her to stop reading playing games whatever if she s sensitive to motion sickness. Motion sickness is usually caused by incongruities between what you see and what your inner ear is sensing so just watching out the windshield might make a tremendous difference. | run-the-joules | 2020-11-23 23:20:32 | 77 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
csm78p | Car trade in experience | I m looking to trade in my car with Tesla which they are offering me a generous amount for. I live in a state that you have to do the entire ordering process online then have it shipped. My concern is that during the trade in process they didn t ask for much about the car other than free of major cosmetic and mechanical issues . I have a few scratches on the side of the car and a fresh small crack in my windshield approx. 4 inch long. What should I expect? Has anyone had experience with this? | etweek76 | 2019-08-19 19:42:07 | 28 | exfr5h6 | They didn t even look at the car during trade-in other than verifying mileage. Don t worry about it. | mahkus11 | 2019-08-19 20:29:54 | 24 | Tesla Delivery Woes |
5sf8z2 | Car transporter with Teslas hit by another truck in deadly accident on Autobahn 8 in Germany | [Newspaper Pictures](http: www.swp.de ulm bilder schwer-unfall-auf-der-a8-14403816.html) [News Report (German)](http: www.swp.de ulm lokales polizeibericht schwerer-unfall-auf-der-a8-vollsperrung-14403498.html) Apparently the transporter had to break due to traffic and the following truck couldn´t stop in time. The driver of the second truck died on the scene of the accident. Damage according to Police 720 000€ | g-ff | 2017-02-06 16:39:56 | 74 | ddekiaj | Poor bastard. Probably distracted or not maintaining necessary distance. Autopilot would probably have saved him | euro8000 | 2017-02-06 16:44:00 | 25 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
iwgo8r | Car value with EAP Upgrade | Does anyone have a sense of how purchasing the new enhanced autopilot upgrade might affect the car value? I have a 2020 Model 3 SR+ and I m considering the upgrade. I m curious how much the upgrade will improve the trade-in value in the next few years. | hnbarakat | 2020-09-20 16:11:43 | 18 | g5ztmls | Nowhere near the $4k you will pay for it. Maybe $800-$1200 max. | matttopotamus | 2020-09-20 16:16:22 | 22 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
cf0f6u | Car was serviced now AC is broken and says it s need a software update. | So I took my car in on Saturday to have the right turn signal fixed. They fixed it and as we were driving away I noticed the AC wasn t very cold. Just as I was about to turn around it worked normally. Apparently that was short lived as it s no longer working. Also the day after we took it in a message showed up saying we require a software update and we need to contact Tesla service. Already did that but they re not coming until the 6th. A quick googling shows that happens when the car fails to install an update but there were no updates. Tried clearing everything by rebooting the car and then powering it off for 3 minutes but no luck. Anything like that ever happen to anyone else after service? | DeathChill | 2019-07-19 00:11:42 | 10 | eu6ddbx | When they replace parts usually a software update is needed to get everything to the same version. You should be able to call and have them push an update to your car remotely. The AC can be used to cool the battery and it will reduce the cold air in the cabin while doing so. | arghhh40k | 2019-07-19 00:55:19 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
kdw77a | Car wash did not go well | So decided to go to a touchless car wash for the first time with my Model 3 on Saturday. I did the full service so they had me get out of my car and the guy went in to take it through the wash. I ll admit I was a little hesitant but I figured plenty of Teslas have gone through before. The guy got in and drove no problem. I even left my phone in the car acting as the key. As I watched through the glass window as my car went through the wash I saw the charging port was open! I m banging on the window trying to get their attention to close it before it got sprayed with water. I couldn t not get their attention. So the port took a full blast of water. After that the guy saw it and closed it. Now I m freaking out that the port is shot. The only way to open the port was my phone or on the screen. I thought maybe I left it open when I unplugged it to drive there but as soon as you touch the brake it closes automatically (tested that to verify). I got home and let the port dry out for a few days. I plugged in my car this afternoon moment of truth.... It would not charge! It would occasionally go to 1 mile hr then back to 0. I called the car wash and they reviewed the cameras and saw it go open but the guy said his worker did not touch the screen. So news to me I did not know that you could push open the charging port from the outside while the car is unlocked. You can t when it s locked. Since the car was on a conveyer belt they leave the car in Park (car was also unlocked) not in neutral. It seems that the force of the water was enough to pop open the charge port. Since it was in Park there s nothing from stopping the port opening up. I saw online to try blasting some air into the port. I did that and plugged my car back in. Finally it started charging up again!! But wow did not realize going to the car wash could be such a headache. Maybe I should have known this before going to the car wash idk but if not hopefully this helps someone avoid this issue in the future. | rougeot10 | 2020-12-15 22:33:47 | 133 | gfz7mhc | Have you tried putting your car in a bag of rice? Worked when my phone got water in it | HungryLe | 2020-12-15 23:56:02 | 120 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
c9uit0 | Car wash mode | I know some of you are against the very idea of going to an automatic car wash but I do it all the time and it s always annoying. I must remember to turn off automatic wipers and I need to put the car in neutral to go through the machine but if I take off my seat belt the car will automatically put itself into park. Aside from that the car wash I frequent prefers that we exit the car and let an employee drive through the wash which is annoying because I have to disconnect the phone and enable key card driving. A car wash mode would allow for the car to be driven up to let s say 10 mph and disables the automatic park feature so long as while in neutral the car doesn t exceed 5mph. | funky_bandersnatch | 2019-07-06 15:02:33 | 62 | et34o3b | Just FYI you shouldn t be using car washes with the spinning brushes. Most ones that require neutral and car movement are the ones with brushes. Tesla only recommends touch-less car washes in the owners manual. Edit: Love the pointless downvote with no comment or alternative proof. | hoppeeness | 2019-07-06 15:44:14 | 45 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
qtrhz0 | Car wash mode question | Has anyone used car wash mode to go through a commercial car wash? I want to try it since it s almost winter and I won t be able to hand wash anymore. What is your experience? | the_ezekiel2517 | 2021-11-14 14:58:42 | 70 | hkmp3dq | It took some trial and error but I prefer car wash mode over just putting it in N. I go through an automatic car wash often with the little track that you drive one wheel on to be pulled through. What I ve learned: Pull up to the carwash hit the free vacuums. Before pulling away from the vacuums go to the Service menu and tap Car Wash Mode. (Or if I m skipping vacuums find somewhere while in line to enter Car Wash Mode) > > --You can only enter Car Wash Mode with the brake applied. You can be in D just gotta have the brake down. --< < Enter Car Wash Mode Then I drive up to the roller to get in position while the roller thing is approaching my tires. At this point instead of praying to the Neutral Gods that I have held the stalk long enough least I get embarrassed by the attendant all you have to to is tap Enable Free Roll . Boom you re in N. Sit back and watch the show. When done just drop it into D and drive away. Tap to exit Car Wash Mode whenever you want as you pull away. Happy washing! | steboknapp | 2021-11-14 20:13:45 | 76 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6751ib | Car window smashed but no alarm | Hi my Model S was broken into last week and the window was smashed in. For a 70k+ car you would think it would be intelligent enough to sound an alarm or phone notification. I still love Tesla but I think they can lead the market in this area to deter thieves a little bit. Has this happened to anyone else ? | rusher81572 | 2017-04-23 22:03:12 | 36 | dgnu6wg | Thanks for sharing this. Sorry about your car. This worries me as a potential weak spot on the Tesla that others can copy as it looks like there are similar incidents like yours. Hopefully Tesla will address this somehow. | plasm0dium | 2017-04-23 23:39:37 | 22 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
6w3u5p | Car won t charge above 24A on 100A HPWC | I ve had this HPWC and the car for months now. Model X standard charger. Always charges at 48A with about 1V of sag. HPWC is hooked to 100A breaker and set for 100A. Tonight I notice it s at 24A not 48A. Get in the car and it won t let me select higher than 24A. Unplug from HPWC and re-connect. Dash shows 0 48A for a second then switches to 0 24A and starts charging. Reset HPWC same issue. End of handle was a bit warm but not silly. Battery is only at 80% so it can handle way more than 24A. Voltage is 242. What am I doing wrong? What happened to my 48A charge rate? EDIT: This morning go out to the car still plugged in to the HPWC and the display says 0 48A (it was charged to the charge limit). Up the charge limit and it starts charging at 48A and the display lets me choose 48A or less. So either software bug or intermittent hardware failure. I ll keep an eye on it. I can see from my house energy monitor that it charged at 48A yesterday for the first half hour and then dropped to 24A for the next few hours so I wonder if it s a heat issue somewhere. | beastpilot | 2017-08-26 05:09:28 | 15 | dm55nfa | This happened to me too. I called tesla and they saw the same thing but they couldn t find anything wrong in the logs but they forwarded it to my local service center. The problem fixed itself and I ve never seen it again. Probably just a weird software bug | navinsiri | 2017-08-26 05:32:10 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
rkvdp4 | CarWash Mode V2 or Personal CarWash Mode? | I don t know if anyone else has experienced this issue but when I wash my car at home - the car will always auto-lock Sentry will go off with 12 + alerts and I cant use the outside Boombox speaker unless a door is left open or phone stays in the car with a window down. If the team could make an at-home car wash mode that would have: Unlock the car and leave it unlocked even without your phone near it. Play a playlist radio song Spotify or whatever you would like from boombox until you disengage it. Turn off Sentry mode for a set amount of time or until you turn off the new car wash mode. I believe all this can be done separately right now - turn off sentry via app car leave the car unlocked with your phone inside? In regards to Boombox I don t have a workaround. Do you also wash your car at home and encounter these issues? Do you have an easier workaround or is this feature request warranted? & #x200B A c | Thatbraziliann | 2021-12-20 19:43:53 | 36 | hpcvyjj | Camp mode should accomplish what you need. When you re in park tap on the climate menu and you ll have see the camp mode option. | apert0ura | 2021-12-20 23:36:53 | 35 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dcndub | Caraoke Bugs | Anyone else experiencing some buggy performance with Caraoke? It only works if I turn off Bluetooth on my phone. Also sometimes songs skip to the next track on their own. Wondering if anyone has encountered the same and found a workaround. I m sure it s just early v10 jitters that Tesla will hopefully eventually fix. But until then... & #x200B p.s. I love Caraoke!! | Phatty8888 | 2019-10-03 07:10:07 | 20 | f29i4g5 | Never had that problem. We just have the common issue where it will stop in the middle of a song. Even still it is soooo fun. My daughter does musical theater and every time I m driving her and her theater friends it s a broadway performance in the car. | TWANGnBANG | 2019-10-03 10:25:48 | 11 | Spotify Gapless Playback |
bsoc10 | Carbon Fiber Décor is back for Model S X Performance orders | As of today Carbon Fiber Décor is back as an interior option for new Model S X Performance orders! I tried posting this earlier but it was not enough characters so now I wrote this. And then some more. And more with flavor. Because robots like it when you do that. Sorry humans. | Dithermaster | 2019-05-25 00:16:35 | 22 | eop2i85 | Yay! Now bring it to Model 3 and add black headliner .. will order a P3D as soon as Tesla makes these changes. | pixel4 | 2019-05-25 03:01:42 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
23l3w2 | Carbon foot print in Manufacturing a new Tesla model S vs old well maintained diesel petrol car. | My wife is challenging that a brand new tesla is not initially as green as buying an older well maintained diesel or petrol car. Looking online this is proving hard to answer than I thought. I can see that to manufacture an electric car has a high carbon footprint than diesel petrol cars due to the batteries. And I can see that driving electric really depends on the type of electric power supply. But trying to compare the two is difficult. If there is some imbalance against a new Tesla how many years would you have to drive it before it becomes greener than the older diesel petrol car? | mobdoc | 2014-04-21 12:48:00 | 19 | cgy27cu | > I can see that to manufacture an electric car has a high carbon footprint than diesel petrol cars due to the batteries. Any manufactured product takes energy to produce and batteries will contribute to that. Another little-understood factor is the *high aluminum content* of the Tesla Model S. The all-aluminum Model S body weighs [300 kg](http: www.torquenews.com 119 tesla-model-s-illuminates-aluminum-body-structure-2011-detroit-auto-show) versus 400-500 if it were made of steel. But aluminum has much more embodied energy than steel — according to the Inventory of Carbon and Energy by the University of Bath it s [155 MJ kg](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Embodied_energy#Embodied_energy_in_common_materials) or in more common units 43 kWh kg. Aluminum requires this energy as electricity so it really is comparable to the kWh you put in your battery. This assumes 33% recycled content so the actual value may be higher or lower depending on Tesla s sourcing. That means that before the first mile is driven *just manufacturing the aluminum for the body* has consumed enough electricity to drive ~40 000 miles. So roughly $1000 of the car s $70k purchase price goes right to their aluminum supplier s (probably [Alcoa](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Alcoa) s) electric bill. | [deleted] | 2014-04-21 13:20:00 | 15 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
a0dc7q | Carbon footprint of the lithium & battery pack production | As a Tesla fan I come in lot s of discussions with friends and colleagues about the carbon footprint of electric cars. There are a lot of numbers out there and it is not alwas easy to disaprove wildly high emission numbers . While I can calculate the carbon emissions of an electrical car caused by *charging* of the car I can t find any precise information about how much carbon is being emitted during the production of a Tesla (let s say) 100D battery pack. It s difficult as one needs to know: - does the lithium carbonate come from brine or rock? Which country? - what is the power source for the preproduction? (https: vimeo.com 61820934) of the lithium in the source country - how much energy is being consumed by the manufacturing of the single cells? - how much energy is being consumed by the manufacturing of the battery pack? The last two steps take place at the Gigafactory so it probably makes sense to take the average Nevada carbon kWh numbers for those. In future the Gigafactory will produce it s own solar power but for now they need to get the electricity from the grid as far as I know. It would be very useful to have the exact numbers in order to end endless discussions about after how many miles an electrical car would beat an ICE car. | thewhyofpi | 2018-11-25 22:50:57 | 12 | eagv8s0 | With respect put the burden of explanation **back on them** -- can they explain the carbon it takes to engineer design construct and operate massive deep water drill platforms? The helicopters to shuttle crew to them? The entire production ==> delivery supply chain (oil tankers around the world naval security for platforms and tankers to protect from piracy tanker trucks to get fuel to individual gas stations around the country world etc.)? Remind them to factor in events like Deep Water Horizon Exxon Valdez etc. Can they come up with a similarly catastrophic event in lithium mining or battery production? While you re at it ask them in light of *economies of scale* how it could logically make *any sense* to have a bunch of little combustion plants driving around (AKA: their cars) vs. the electric car model in which the battery simply stores energy produced at a major generation site. Buildings don t have furnaces and water heaters in every office they have one giant plant ... EV model is like a modern building ICE is like having a furnace in each room. | TheBurtReynold | 2018-11-25 23:25:30 | 42 | Tesla Dominance in EV Batteries |
6qf82p | Card Key for valet | Several reviews have stated the card key can be used to valet the car. As someone who valets often they use a keybox to organize & lock up a lot of keys as they run for the cars. They usually place your key on the hook number that correspond with your ticket number & those hooks are close together. A card key doesn t have an eyelet to hang the key for organization and is much larger than any other key. This could make valeting more difficult than with a normal shape sized key. Anyone else see this as short sighted given how valets operate? | reddiscovered | 2017-07-30 03:19:16 | 10 | dkwt0o5 | Valets will eventually be obsolete in Tesla s eyes. | NowThatsWhatICallMLG | 2017-07-30 03:24:15 | 35 | Tesla phone key functionality |
5f4mor | Career help | Hello everyone I m currently pursuing a mechanical undergraduate degree and am in my 3rd year. I was looking for internships during my summer holidays and wanted to intern at Tesla. I have undertaken different relevant mechanical projects and am certified in CATIA and Solidworks. I have some certificates of automobile related workshops I attended. Before I start applying I wanted to educate myself so when I m applying I can confidently say I m one of the strongest candidates. Any tips on what the recruiters look for is very much appreciated. Thank you for taking out the time to read this. | YellowJalapa | 2016-11-27 09:48:03 | 13 | dahgk9t | Hi fellow redditor evethough I am not an employee of Tesla I will try to help you ! I also tried to apply for many jobs at Tesla and they just did not answer me. They are looking for experienced peoples but not only. In facts I spoke with a salesperson in a Tesla store and he gave me few tips. He was also young (25 26 yrs) but he explained me few things. You need a strong CV and some valuable experiences (he was working at Apple before being hired). You need to show that you already worked in a similar environment (complex fast changing etc). That s it for the salesperson. For what it worth I can also give you some tips I learned when applying for jobs (not in Tesla). I found a really good job recently and what HR and other hiring persons are looking for is a balanced person meaning that you do sports have leisures so you can handle the stress more than a person fully focused on the job. Also your CV have to tell a story and tbe job you are applying is the nxt logical step. As you pointed out you have some certification. It s a very good way to orient your profile toward the job or the company you want to apply because it shows motivation and increase your knowledge. So you want to learn and get certified in state of the art technics in your field. I have to go I am already late (doh) but if you want further tips I will be there ) Quick edit : corrected the text layout | SurtseyHuginn | 2016-11-27 10:48:40 | 9 | Pursuing Career at Tesla |
cqdqsj | Careful with dog mode in midday sun and hot weather | Yesterday when the sun was high overhead I decided to wait inside my Model S in a parking lot while my wife was shopping. For fun I had the air conditioning set on dog mode at 72 ºF. After about 15-20 min. my head was getting noticeably warm (actually hot) from the sun shining directly through the see-through roof. (Please note that I also had a front window reflecting shade installed). Worse the inside of the glass roof was hot to the touch so was also reradiating heat into the cabin. The outside air temp was very hot as well 101 ºF. So my message to you folks who leave Fido in your car is to not think it s comfortable for it just because the HVAC is working in dog mode. Especially for a larger dog it will be closer to the inside of the roof which is hot to the touch and acts like a radiant heater. So there is a fix for this situation and I implemented it realtime. When I first purchased the vehicle I had gotten one of the Tesla Roof Sunshades ($120 for a model S). So I had really never used it but it was in my trunk so I attached it to the inside of the roof of the vehicle and it immediately reduced the heat that I was feeling on my head. Bottom line I d recommend one of the Tesla roof shades for parking your car outside in the midday intense summer sun and especially if you depend on dog mode for your pets. | coulombis | 2019-08-14 18:29:58 | 74 | ewvk22a | Also park in the shade if you can. That will minimize the thermal load on the vehicle. | paulwesterberg | 2019-08-14 18:38:06 | 63 | Tesla HVAC Functionality |
dot5oy | Cargo Separator for 5-Seat Model X | I was excited to get the extra storage space in the rear of the Model X with only two rows of seats. Where the third row would be there is instead additional storage with it s own storage cover. The issue I m having is that the storage area is completely open with the original rear storage. When you hit the gas anything you put in there immediately slides to the back and into the deeper storage area. I d like some sort of separator or insert for that upper area to keep items I store in there separate from the rear deeper storage bin. Does anyone have suggestions? | BlueScreenDeath | 2019-10-29 17:33:00 | 23 | f5q746p | Our X is a 5 seater. The two times I ve needed to fill the 3rd row underfloor extra space I made sure the items I put in the deeper underfloor rear area were tall enough to prevent items from sliding from the shallow space to the deeper space. I ve considered making a separator with a Velcro bottom to attach to the floor to prevent this. I came to this thread hoping you linked to one. | jrlv | 2019-10-29 18:24:37 | 8 | Car seat configurations in Tesla |
y2csbt | Carmax Model 3 | Anyone willing to talk me out of (or into) buying a low miles Model 3 from Carmax? I ve purchased vehicles from them before so I know there is no “haggling” etc… give me the good or bad of buying a used Tesla from a “big box” car dealer. | ks_Moose | 2022-10-12 19:19:44 | 20 | is2fdbr | I think used evs are pretty safe. Not much can go wrong with them. As long as battery is good and no crash damage I would think that s good. Best to get mechanic to review first. | bonkeydcow | 2022-10-12 20:26:46 | 19 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
eltixt | Cars.com vs Tesla s Used Inventory | I know Tesla s used inventory gets inspected and approved. However buying a Tesla on [Cars.com](https: Cars.com) would be cheaper but riskier. What are your thoughts on buying from [Cars.com](https: Cars.com)? Have you bought a Tesla from there? Or is it not worth the risk and I should continue to save to buy an approved Tesla? | WhoCutTheCheeseBread | 2020-01-08 14:39:12 | 16 | fdk2t5k | onlyusedtesla.com got my P3D+ from there and haven t looked back. Excellent site | kurthepilot | 2020-01-08 14:44:33 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
do8kko | Carvana | Does anyone have any insight into why Carvana has so many used Model 3s with less than 1000 miles? I there also similar ones on Tesla s used site. Is Tesla using Carvana to clear inventory? | heliumargon | 2019-10-28 13:05:34 | 40 | f5lqrtd | OP is probably on to something. I spot checked a few of Carvana vehicles and they all were Tesla CPOs about a month ago with nice markup of $4-6k added. | dbond4r | 2019-10-28 17:01:44 | 28 | Tesla Autopilot Performance Review |
ifzyyt | Carvana paid for my 2020 SR+ M3 | Sold my 2019 Standard Range M3 to carvana for $34 940. It had 14 000+ miles curb rash dents scratches and tires kept leaking air. I used that to buy a brand new 2020 Standard Range Plus M3 for $34 190! EXTRA $600 to go towards accessories. No sales tax in NJ for zero emission vehicles. $5 000 rebate for new EV purchase or lease. | davezhu403 | 2020-08-24 22:56:42 | 259 | g2qre7o | That s bananas. | SodaPopin5ki | 2020-08-24 23:04:51 | 167 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4iyzez | Cast beam from phone to tesla touchscreen | I recall Elon mentioning at some point rather than the initial plan they had of opening up the ability for 3rd party apps for teslas in car touchscreen system that to ensure security and system stability they will not do that but allow for owners to beam or cast their android or ios phone screens and apps to the car touchscreen. Any indication of when this will happen and how difficult it is considering we haven t seen it yet. I think it s about time we had things like waze and other apps on the screen maybe with YouTube at some point as well. | TMKtheGreat | 2016-05-12 04:21:16 | 10 | d32ohem | Android Auto and Apple Car Play would work decently as a half screen application | DoYouWonda | 2016-05-12 14:11:25 | 7 | Tesla companion app features |
iijt2a | Casting Machine | How exactly do the Model Y casting machines work? With such a large part with such much detail it s kinda hard to wrap my mind around what techniques are needed to machine such a large part. In the future could Tesla use for the Model 3 or even to make the front or midsection of the Y as a single piece? | rajkhaitan | 2020-08-29 01:29:03 | 32 | g376lhv | https: en.wikipedia.org wiki Giga_Press | kobachi | 2020-08-29 01:43:11 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
558xn9 | Categories and Post Flair Types - Asking for your input. | The mods have discussed that we d like to revamp the post flair. Right now we have 10 flair (that I have changed slightly a couple times) and is by no means our end goal. We d like to aim for that number without going higher but if we find no other way we ll discuss it further. Things to note: - We have also discussed making a sticky thread for those Delivery Day! and I spotted a Tesla! posts. So in your suggestions ignore those two. - We are unable to make choosing flair a requirement prior to submission because Reddit does not allow you to assign flair if the post can t been created yet. - We have a notification (on web) for posters to assign flair. - It is not possible to set flair for mobile users so making flair mandatory is not possible. - AutoMod can remove posts if they don t have a tag (e.g. [ Question ]) on them but this isn t the structure we ve discussed. What are your suggestions on the post flair types or categories? Edit: Current Flair (Thx u D-egg-O) - Model S - Model X - Model 3 - Autopilot - Software Update - Energy Gigafactory - Superchargers - Tech - Question - Other | 110110 | 2016-09-30 17:11:17 | 34 | d88ja8d | The company financials are often discussed lots of people have an interest in the share price etc so perhaps something related to those? | wingnut32 | 2016-09-30 17:23:50 | 13 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
cdijpq | Caught valet in the act this weekend | Went out in the city on Saturday and pulled into a lot. I was directed to a spot and backed up 90% of the way into it when the attendant told me to get out so he can park it properly . I knew what was going on and jokingly said thanks! Now don t go taking a joyride or anything! before handing him the keys. I also gave him a business card in case anything happened. Fast forward 15-20 minutes and I get a call from an unknown number. Turns out he took the car for a spin and stepped out. He didn t realize that a PIN number was required to restart the car and didn t know what else to do. I did end up giving him the PIN but changed it soon after. I wonder how often these types of things happen with luxury cars that don t have PIN access... | hereforfantasyadvice | 2019-07-15 15:03:13 | 2,474 | etu5c8c | A Tesla is the worst car to pick for a joyride. Not only do we have valet mode but we also can see where the car is at all times and control some settings by phone. Glad OPs car was not damaged. | D-RO24 | 2019-07-15 15:30:33 | 1,224 | Tesla phone key functionality |
ah634p | Cayenne S Hybrid < CPO Model S | I m convinced. I ve spent the past few months driving the wife s 15 Model X 90D as the family transporter and comparing to my daily driven 2011 Porsche Cayenne S Hybrid. I ve had it for the past few years and am converting to a 2015 CPO Model S. We re going fully electric. Can t wait for it to arrive! Why? I use an SUV like many people do. I put a bunch of crap in it on a regular basis and in the PNW I need AWD. Despite the best hybrid technologies there is no efficient way to move that much stuff. On my best days I get 20mpg. In a 4800 lb. hybrid. Not exactly groundbreaking. The engine shut off in traffic is nice however it burns through catalytic converters do the constant hot cold variations. I still believe the Cayenne is actually one of the best SUVs on the market new or second hand. It feels small for its size handles somewhat like a car has great options and a great interior. Why Model S? I m not exactly taking a step down in the creature comfort dept. After a ton of research and working with the Tesla Used Sales teams and EV-CPO.com - I finally found the one. 2015 P90DL. Red on Black CF SZ Hifi AWD etc. and fast(er) than anything all for relatively the same price as what I was in my Cayenne for. Why CPO? 4-year warranty. The used Model S market prices these at nearly the same. Why not get a warranty for the same cost? What are the tradeoffs? I have to charge at night. Already hooked up 240V. Never have to visit a gas station outside of basic needs not named gas. Autopilot in Seattle traffic on my way to work will be wonderful. My neighbors might ask a bunch of questions. Doomsday Zombieocalpyse means I ll need to figure out charging but if I couldn t get gas either I think we re all up a creek anyway. I ll have to figure out road trips a little more but to me its worth it. Why not a Model 3? I ve driven one. I can t see myself personally spending that much on a car that size that means I d have to sacrifice one more thing - space. AP2 made this a hard decision but hasn t advanced enough. The MS has already depreciated. There will likely be so many Model 3s around in a few years that trading out of this to get AP2 into another MS or Model 3 shouldn t be too hard. Cost Pricing: My payment on my Cayenne S + Gas is almost the same as the new to me Model S. My insurance only increases $100. Not a bad deal and one I m willing to live with for what I would consider a better car. We re also on hydro-power in WA so that at least makes me feel a little better when I constantly use ludicrous mode and have to recharge each night. Anyway thought I d share. Hope it arrives soon. Car is in SF now on its way to Seattle hopefully shortly. Quick Update: * Deposit Made: 1 14 2019 * Order Completed: 1 16 2019 * Car on Truck from SF to Seattle: 1 18 2019 * Car arrived in Seattle: 1 26 2019 * Delivery Date: 1 29 2019 Took delivery today. The car was immaculate. They detailed the car well the wheels looked new or at least refinished. The paint was well cared for. Interior was cleaned up. My used Tesla direct experience was actually pretty awesome. | prancerciseisthebest | 2019-01-18 03:12:13 | 20 | eebre5b | Enjoy the Model S! I must say though despite owning a Model S the Cayenne is one of the nicest cars that I ve ever owned. Really looking forward to see what Porsche can do with that Taycan. I wonder how the 2019 Cayenne e-Hybrid is (it seems like Doug DeMuro likes it from his review). | ABigFalconRocket | 2019-01-18 03:28:05 | 9 | Tesla Model 3 Review |
np4qp8 | Ccs1 adapter for US | Any info on when we will actually see a Us version of the Ccs1 adapter ? I have asked this question millions of times on Twitter and never a response . Anyone else hoping we get one ? Would anyone be willing to sign a petition with me on change.org to make it happen ? I find it frustrating just to visit family every weekend I have to drive 25 miles in the opposite direction just to charge in order to drive back home. It s making me contemplate giving up on Tesla . | Greg4260 | 2021-05-31 14:32:04 | 46 | h034lbv | The adapter is going through [Certification in South Korea](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments n4b0ig dc_combo_ccs1_tesla_proprietary_port_adapter_is ?utm_source=share& utm_medium=ios_app& utm_name=iossmf) so it should be close to release over there. I looked around for matching model numbers on google and didn t find anything for the US. Regardless I d bet if Tesla doesn t release it here people will import them from South Korea. It s a shame Tesla doesn t just offer this adapter to us out of good will. I have a feeling they are only making this because they were somehow required to for Korea. | brobot_ | 2021-05-31 14:45:14 | 26 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8z7xe8 | Celebrating 50 000 Model 3s produced....... | According to the Bloomberg Model 3 tracker Tesla has produced roughly 50 000 Model 3 vehicles. How long do you guys think it will take to build the next 50 000? | MrEcon | 2018-07-16 04:20:54 | 128 | e2grcst | 10 weeks for the next 50k. | icecream21 | 2018-07-16 04:23:52 | 46 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
3nz7vj | Celebrating my new flair! In at $224.70 | Damn it feels good to be a gangsta. And a TSLA investor. I m in baby $224.70! | superOOk | 2015-10-08 14:47:28 | 25 | cvskw2g | you ll have multiple heart attacks before selling your shares unless you forget about daily market activities. | lemlemx | 2015-10-08 15:47:12 | 10 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
cibco3 | Cells Pack and Batteries: Oh my! Clearing up misconceptions on the nerdy side of the Tesla world | There is a monumental amount of misinformation on the topic of cells batteries and charging. I want to clear this up as best I can hopefully in a way that proves to be a reference that the community can build upon. # Basic Concepts First let s get some concepts out of the way. ## Power Power is nothing more than the rate of energy transfer. This is confused with Energy *all the time* so please pay attention to this. There are two underlying components that make up power: Voltage (Volts or V) and Current (Amperage Amps or A). The formula for Power is simple: Voltage * Current. Together these components make Power measured in Watts. These concepts (Power Voltage and Amperage) are fairly analogous to water. You can think of Volts as the Pressure Amps as the Volume and Watts as the Flow rate. To make it easier to relate I ve come up with a more concrete analogy. Suppose you re taking a shower. Take these three scenarios: 1. Water is coming out of the shower head so fast it can hit the opposite wall but the stream itself is tiny it s only the width of a dime. Thus we have a high voltage low amperage scenario. Let s give this scenario a unit of 10 Water Volts and 1 Water Amps. Therefore we have 10 Water Volts * 1 Water Amps = 10 Water Watts. 2. Now let s say that instead of shooting out of the shower head the water is dribbling out instead. But this time the amount of water coming out is enough to emcompass your fist. Thus we have a low voltage high amperage scenario. Let s give this scenario a unit of 1 Water Volts and 10 Water Amps. Therefore we once again have 10 Water Watts. Even though we have different underlying factors the fact that we end up with the same power rating is key to keep in mind for later sections of this post. 3. Finally now we have a shower head that is more like a fire hose: it s hitting the opposite wall with a stream the size of my fist. We have a high voltage high amperage scenario. We ll say this is 10 Water Volts and 10 Water Amps: now we have 100 Water Watts! Now think about how you can vary these two underlying values in relation to the above scenarios to try and grasp how that changes the characteristics of power. **Now remember if you find yourself using Wh or kWh to refer to power ratings (such as Supercharger speeds) remember that it sounds like this to those in the know: I filled my car up at a rate of 3 gallons! -- 3 gallons per what?!** ## Energy The concept of Energy is actually relatively simple. It s nothing more than Power over time. That is given some power rating (say 1 Watt) and some amount of time (say 1 hour) you can figure out how much energy we ve used. In this case we ve used 1 Watt-hour (1 Watt * 1 hour). There are two frequently used units for Energy (and more be more I m not sure): Watt-hours (Wh) and Joules (J). You can go look up the precise definition of Joules but I find Watt-hours to be more relatable in the end. Where people typically get tripped up is when power changes over a period of time. In those cases if you were to plot a graph of power over time the area under the curve (the integral) represents the Energy content. **Now remember if you find yourself using Watts (W) or Kilowatts (kW) to refer to energy (such as battery size) remember that it sounds like this to those in the know: My gas tank holds 3 gallons per minute! ** # Batteries ## Cells The most basic component of any battery pack is the battery cell. They come in three basic form factors: pouch cells cylinder cells and prismatic cells. For the purposes of this post we ll be talking exclusively about the cylindrical cells which are the ones Tesla uses in its battery packs. Each form factor has various trade offs but that discussion is outside the scope of this post. In the cylindrical cell space there are a variety of sub-form factors. For example the S and X battery packs used 18650 cells manufactured by Panasonic in Japan. The Model 3 and Y use the 2170 cell format manufactured by Panansonic at the Gigafactory in Nevada. The number is simply the dimensions of the cell: 18 mm by 65 mm and 21 mm by 70 mm respectively. ## Cell Characteristics This is really where it starts to get interesting. There are thousands of different cells to choose from: contrary to popular belief not all batteries are made equal. In fact Tesla itself varies the cells it uses depending on the use case: a 2170 cell that goes into a Model 3 is *not* the same cell that goes into a Powerwall or Powerpack (though it may use the same manufacturing capacity). There are a number of competing factors that are typically considered including but not limited to: * Capacity (measured in Amp-hours Ah this is *not* the same as energy content) * Cycle life * Operating temperatures * Cost of manufacturing * Materials * Charge and discharge rates (C-rates see below) You can find some examples of the above by looking at some manufacturers cell specifications. For example take the Panasonic NCR18650BD: https: evwest.com support panasonic-ncr18650bd-datasheet.pdf. We can see it has a nominal voltage of 3.6 V and a capacity of around 3.1 Ah implies an energy content of 11.16 Wh (3.6 V * 3.1 Ah). Also of interest are the various charts in the document. You can see how the discharge rate costs us significant energy as we demand more from the cell. Similarly for operating temperature. Finally the most intersting one (I think anyway) is the cycle testing. It loses about 16% of its capacity after 500 cycles but in the **most extreme conditions**: from 4.15 Volts to 2.5 Volts (e.g. absolute 100% to 0%) 500 times **in a row**. This is precisely why Tesla recommends charging to 90% on a typical basis and builds a buffer in at the bottom that you cannot access. Doing so significantly increases the cycle life of the cell (and therefore the battery as a whole)! If you want to read more on the details behind cell degradation check out this awesome TMC thread: https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads battery-degradation-scientifically-explained.153074 ### C Rating The C Rating you see referred to around is a relative unit that describes how fast a cell can charge. It is specific to each cell s specification so it is not portable across all cells. Taking the Panasonic cell above it has a capacity of 3.1 Ah. A C rating of 1 C for this cell is 3.1 A. That is if you were to charge this cell at 1 C you would be putting in 3.1 A at the current voltage of the cell. In this particular case Panasonic is recommending a charge rate of 0.3 C which is roughly 1 A (0.93A for pedantic folks out there). C ratings are extremely important for those interested in getting charge times down. I ll go more in depth on the process of charging itself in the section below but suffice it to say a higher C rating is more desirable (assuming all other characteristics can remain true). What s so revolutionary about the Model 3 battery pack is that Tesla seems comfortable with using a C rating of *3.33 C* for the 2170 vehicle cell chemistry the highest of any production EV full stop. Not even Porsche s Taycan comes close to this (Porsche is using an 800 V pack platform which means they use a lower C rating). *correction: the Taycan actually edges out the Model 3 with a C rating of 3.8 roughly assuming 350 kW charging is unlocked* ## Battery Packs The packs themselves is really where manufacturers start to differentiate themselves from each other. There are an infinite number of ways that cells can be arranged into packs. This involves two different options: series and parallel. *Series* refers to putting cells one after another such that the top of one cell is connected to the bottom of another. Configuring cells in series increases the *Voltage*: given two cells that are both are 3.7 V putting them in series would give you a 7.4 V circuit. *Parallel* refers to putting cells next to each other. This configuration increases the capacity (Ah) of the cells but not the Voltage. There are many many different pack configurations that may be used for various reasons all of which are outside the scope of this post. One final item on this topic is that there is a common notation that you ll see used: `{n}p{m}s` (or `{n}s{m}p` I m not sure if there s an established standard of sorts). That is `{n}` cells in parallel `{m}` cells in series. As an example the electric scooter I recently purchased uses a 2p10s configuration. That is 10 sets of 2 cells configured in parallel are placed in series with each other. Here is my terrible ASCII diagram showcasing this configuration (where `C` is a cell): ``` - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + - C + ``` # Charging At the most basic there are two stages of charging an individual cell: constant Amperage followed by constant Voltage. In the first stage you set the Amperage to be the desired C rating. In the Panasonic example that is 1 A. Assuming you start at 0% you ll be starting at a cell Voltage of around 2.5 V. The charger s job is to match this voltage increasing the voltage as the cell s voltage increases. Eventually you reach a point where the cell voltage cannot safely go any higher (for lithium ion cells right around 4.15 - 4.2 V depending on chemistry). Once a constant voltage is reached you begin to vary the Amperage. In the world of electricity Voltage = Resistance * Amperage. We aren t going to go in depth here but remember two things: Voltage needs to remain constant and as the cell becomes satured (filled) with energy the (internal) Resistance increases. Therefore we need to lower the Amperage to ensure we re hitting the target Voltage. For example at 1 hour into charging say Voltage has reached 4.15 V and resistance has hit 15 Ohms (made up number don t kill me please) which means our charger needs to be outputting only ~0.27 A to hit our desired Voltage. See https: batteryuniversity.com learn article charging_lithium_ion_batteries for a more complete and correct breakdown of this process. Charging characteristics scale nicely from the cell level up to the pack level (subject to how the manufacturer designed the pack). In fact you can see first hand how these characteristics affect the amount of Power going into the battery. I ll give you an example of this in the Chademo section below. ## AC Charging This is a pretty easy topic. Any Level 1 or Level 2 charger you find (including the mobile connector included with your Tesla) such as the Tesla High Power Wall Connector is **not a charger**. It s essentially just a control board that implements the [J1772 signaling protocol](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki SAE_J1772#Signaling). Effectively it s a glorified relay that might have some other features such as payments WiFi (for energy usage tracking) or looking cool (obviously the HPWC). Instead the charger is located onboard the car itself. At least for the Model 3 the charger is integrated into the penthouse of the battery pack. These chargers are current (Amperage) and Voltage limited: Voltage range is typically from 200 V to 280 V (though the higher end of that is not entirely clear for the Model 3). Voltage is consistent across all of the models but current is not. The Long Range models are equipped with an onboard charger that can accept up to 48 A whereas the Standard Range models have a maximum of 32 A. With respect to the actual connector the **only** difference is the physical connector the signaling is exactly the same across J1772 ( Type 1 ) connectors Tesla connectors and Type 2 connectors: they are all part of the [IEC_62196](https: en.wikipedia.org wiki IEC_62196) specification. European cars even came with the J1772 connector initially before the Type 2 connector was developed. You can even purchase passive adapters. The primary difference is that Type 2 allows for accepting 3 phase power which is not something the J1772 connector can do. ## DC Fast Charging Regardless of the protocol behind them the concept behind DC fast charging (DCFC) remains the same: use an external charger to charge the battery at a much higher rate. ### Supercharger Not much is known about the protocol Tesla uses for Supercharging. It s proprietary does some sort of authentication and is non-standard. Anybody that claims to know about the protocol that it uses is either wrong lying or a (ex-) Tesla employee breaking an NDA. There is speculation that it s a CAN based protocol (similar to Chademo) but nothing confirmed. If you would like to take an oscilloscope to a Supercharger and try to inspect the signaling while ~150 kW flows through that cable you are more than welcome to do so (don t do that). Otherwise this is likely to remain an un-reverse engineered mystery (or maybe a certain redditor can pick apart the firmware that seems much more likely). ### Combined Charging System CCS is a system that extends the J1772 and Type 2 connectors to add two DC pins at the bottom. This is an area where I ve seen a *massive* amount of misinformation so to be abundantly clear: **CCS Type 1 and CCS Type 2 use the exact same signaling protocol.** The protocol itself is based on a PLC mechanism but I m not an expert on it so I m not going into how it works. Additionally CCS Type 1 is **not the same** as CCS1. Likewise CCS Type 2 is **not the same** as CCS2. Type 1 and Type 2 are simply references to the top portion of the connection. You can have a CCS1 Type 2 station (in fact those are probably the dominant type until Hypercharger Fastned and Ionity start to outnumber them). Likewise a CCS2 Type 1 station is also a possibility (*ahem* Electrify America 150 kW and 350 kW stations). CCS1 is Voltage and Amperage limited compared to CCS2. Specifically CCS1 allows for < 500 V and < 200 A compared to 200 - 1000 V and < 500 A for CCS2. One very interesting thing to note about this is that it is likely that vehicles with an 800 V pack platform will be **unable to charge at CCS1 sites**. This is pure speculation however since it s possible there could be a high voltage DC-DC converter onboard for this purpose. ### Chademo Chademo is just another connector that uses a CAN based protocol. Widely deployed in Japan it is backed primarily by Nissan. Recently the Chademo adapter was *finally* enabled for Model 3 (what took you so long Tesla?!). However not a long of people seem to realize that the adapter itself is limited overall to 50 kW. But the 50 kW limitation is actually a really misleading way to put it. What we *should* be talking about is the Amperage limitation. Why you ask? Because from what you learned above you should realize by now that the charger has no control over the Voltage. It *has* to match the pack Voltage otherwise **bad** things happen (well realistically the adapter and or vehicle would cease charging immediately but still). Anyways if you re at a low State of Charge (SoC) -- let s say 10% and you pull up to a Chademo static with your shiny new adapter you plug in and you only get ~43 kW. What gives? This is supposed to be a 50 kW adapter right? Well the adapter is limited to 125 A. And because you re at such a low SoC you re pack voltage is going to be very low (say 350 V). Remember that the charger has no control over the Voltage the only variable it has to play with is Amperage. Therefore 350 V * 125 A = 43 750 W or about 43 kW (alright almost 44 kW). In these cases it s actually *better* to arrive at the charger with a higher SoC. It s a balancing act of getting a higher pack Voltage and not being so higher as to hit the taper early on. For the Chademo adapter specifically staying between 20-80% SoC is probably your best bet to get maximum speed for the majority of the time. Of course this is assuming that the station can even output 125 A which is definitely not always true. YMMV. | cac2573 | 2019-07-27 01:18:04 | 135 | ev3etyj | TL DR: 1) Use kW for power (I.e. charging rates) and 2) kWh for energy (I.e. capacity) and 3) a ton of more nerdy cool stuff about battery cells and charging. Great post. Should be part of a wiki. | kocsenc | 2019-07-27 02:18:12 | 20 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4ik6k5 | Cellular Connection Costs for Tesla? | Is there information on how much Tesla pays for the cellular connections their cars make? I am curious about this because if there are suddenly going to be 500k more connections or cars generating data it would follow that costs should increase unless users are charged for this service. | bmayer0122 | 2016-05-09 15:54:43 | 12 | d2yqea7 | > if there are suddenly going to be 500k more connections or cars generating data it would follow that costs should increase unless users are charged for this service. Why do people assume that increased volume means increased unit cost? If anything Tesla will be getting a volume discount. We ve heard this for Superchargers too: With the Model 3 they ll have to charge money. | [deleted] | 2016-05-09 16:18:33 | 17 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
alszdc | Center Console continues to shutdown during drives | Does anyone know what this is or what is causing it? Is it something that I m doing while driving the car? It has happened since delivery and through multiple updates and is only getting worse. This problem was first experienced the day after it was dropped off and looking at my firmware version then - it was several updates behind being up to date. So while waiting to update it I had to deal with this issue. & #x200B Console was reset by the car during the initial part of the video then comes online at 1 minute. At 1:30 the console starts to freak out again and a loud \*pop\* comes through the speakers and the console goes black again. [https: www.youtube.com watch?v=ZtbwXqU7rfc](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=ZtbwXqU7rfc) | UrbanMasque | 2019-01-31 19:08:51 | 10 | efgpf2p | Call service now. That looks like the kind of issue they d want to sort out for you right away. | purestevil | 2019-01-31 19:11:30 | 29 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
54yqij | Center console reboots? | I m on 8.0 2.36.108 and on my way home today my center console is going black and apparently rebooting every 5 mins or so. I m waiting for a call back from the support but this is unnerving. Has it happened to anybody else? Any advice? Fwiw another tesla friend had it happen too http: i.imgur.com g2Gbp4V.jpg | CleatusVanDamm | 2016-09-28 21:23:52 | 23 | d8644ln | Mine rebooted four times today on the ~13 mile drive home from work... didn t happen at all yesterday. Also waiting on a call back from support. Seems a bit weird if multiple people are all experiencing it around the same time. edit 5:45pm CDT - Tesla support just called me back saying their engineers have resolved the issue no details on exactly what went wrong though. Hopefully we re all good. | Talevon | 2016-09-28 21:56:47 | 12 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
bwmhvw | Ceramic coating and PPF Importance and Discussion | I ve seen a lot of people on here discuss ceramic coating and doing a full ppf or full frontal ppf on the Model 3. With everyone who did and did not do it how do you feel about your decision now? I m considering having a full frontal ppf done and a ceramic coat for ease of cleaning since the car will mostly be parked outdoors but after some research I m not sure if this is even necessary. Will a Midnight Silver Metallic Model 3 benefit from these things? Is the paint as soft as people say? I d like to hear the thoughts of those who own Model 3 s and have done both a ceramic coat and ppf or either. Thanks! | jho730 | 2019-06-04 08:55:13 | 10 | epyqmx1 | 1. I can drive through a forest of love bugs and not have to worry about my paint being etched into by their guts. 2. I have no rock chips anywhere on the front of my car. 3. Water sheets off the car when I wash it. Bugs wipe off with barely any effort. Yeah ppf and ceramic coat is worth it. I had the ppf installed from a professional shop but self applied ceramic coat (CarPro Cquartz = $63 on Amazon) | mysql101 | 2019-06-04 11:35:00 | 9 | Tesla ownership feedback and issues |
fb1l7e | Chademo charger notes for those without home chargers like me | If you re like me you purchased a tesla with no home charging option with the expectation of relying on public chargers like chargepoint. If you re also like me you mildly hate leaving your car overnight at a chargepoint and not having access to your electric speedwagon. I realized in my area and on my commuting route (through the LA region) there are readily available chademo options in convenient locations with reasonable cost so I bit the bullet and purchased one which arrived today. I wanted to note a few observations after my use and the benefits considerations. 1. It s backordered but be patient. I put an alert on the item and got it within 48 hours and it was online for about 3 hours before selling out. Don t fall for the price gouging of ebay unless you need it desperately and don t mind paying $650+ 2. CA instituted a $ kwh which makes this option reasonable. Infact I m paying less for it than chargepoint in the area at $0.20kwh vs $0.25kwh. I know electrify america and some others have a per minute so keep that in your mind if considering getting one and a cost benefit. 3. Charging is maxed at 50kW. This is plenty for my needs and more than enough for those charging utilizing stations that are typically 18-25kW. 4. It s still $450 before tax. I think this still puts it into luxury piece of mind my partner may kill me if they don t understand it purchase but it definitely can have its uses for situations like mine or if you find yourself in an area without a supercharger. All that said I think the convenience of knowing I can get a full charge at my Costco in the time it takes me to shop was well worth the price. Let me know if anyone has any questions on use. Speed image http: imgur.com gallery 8gL1Vwe Cost http: imgur.com gallery wWN0q1u | LookmomImarocker | 2020-02-28 21:04:02 | 77 | fj2475u | I ve said it before but everyone that is shitting on Electrify America and CHAdeMO have never experienced a situation where a Supercharger is broken or busy. During the Thanksgiving weekend the 5 was closed in California forcing drivers to take the 101 alternative which overloaded Superchargers. There are stories of people waiting hours for a charge while some other drivers drove a few minutes to the town over and plugged in at a CHAdeMO station. Who cares if it s 50kW or 0.25 kWh. Would you rather charge at 50kW or at 0 kw? | umamiking | 2020-02-28 23:55:17 | 65 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
lzjcyd | Chances of V3 Supercharger going beyond 250kw | If V2 was 150kw distributed between 2 stalls it seems reasonable that V3 could do the same. Jerome Guillen mentioned 350kw at battery day. There hasn t been a hint of V4. Plaild+ and Tri motor Cybertruck are coming soon with obviously larger packs. Likely they ll have the ability to charge faster than 250kw with the new 4680 batteries. I have hope but feel free to prove me wrong. | claypigeon95 | 2021-03-07 04:45:52 | 19 | gq2jvu4 | You don t need v3 to go beyond 250kw you just need the new battery to have the ability to hold peak charging rate at 250kw longer. | c18zyxt | 2021-03-07 05:29:16 | 79 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5wic7q | Chances of getting an overnight or weekend test drive? | So after reserving a Model 3 then test driving a Model S for 15 mins I am fairly confident that I would rather have the Model S at this point (while I still have value in my trade-in etc) then wait a year or more for a Model 3...I also have reservations (no pun intended) about some of the new things they re trying on the 3 which would delay my buying decision some more. If I lived near a store I don t think there would be an issue but I live 3 hours away (Knoxville TN) from the nearest showroom service center. What are the chances that they would let me do an overnight or weekend test drive to see if the Model S fits into my current lifestyle and driving needs? | ClarksonianPause | 2017-02-27 18:17:19 | 10 | deabkuo | Rent one on Turo for the weekend or something. | therendevouswithfish | 2017-02-27 18:57:37 | 8 | Test Driving Tesla Models |
hmsgh5 | Change charging amps remotely | Some European countries have very constrained household power down to 3.3kW by default. Being able to change the charging amps throughout the day would really help the home charging effort as a whole perhaps pumping up the amps in the evening or before bed when other power hungry appliances are turned off. Getting into the car every freaking time for such basic feature or having to start stop the charging process is a royal pain. What are my options here? | sharpfoam | 2020-07-07 11:01:28 | 104 | fx719uu | Yeah i don t understand why this is not possible by default either. One option is getting a wallbox that supports that. | frank_t_tank | 2020-07-07 11:23:37 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
9bt3t7 | Change in destination charger program | Quite some time back I submitted an application for a non-profit I m part of for the destination charger program. This week I got an email stating that the application has been approved however after reading the email the previous policy of Tesla installing the equipment and you paying for the electric costs has changed. You are now responsible for all equipment and installation costs the only thing Tesla does is list you on their map as a destination charger. I have to say I am a bit disappointed in this change and it s led us to withdraw our application as the value is no longer there to absorb the installation cost as well as on going electric costs. | aanderson81 | 2018-08-31 12:17:17 | 20 | e55jhe0 | This changed a while ago. Tesla was giving out equipment and paying up to a certain amount for installation costs to increase the quantity of available destination chargers during the early adopter phase but that wasn t a sustainable long-term strategy and was always going to change. | Dr_Pippin | 2018-08-31 13:08:12 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
qhz1mm | Change of behavior when shifting from drive to reverse at low speeds | I back into my driveway so normally I coast past my driveway a little bit and then shift into reverse before coming to a full stop. For the last couple of days I ve been getting a notice that I have to apply the brake in order to shift into reverse. Has anybody else noticed this? | needlenozened | 2021-10-28 23:11:05 | 59 | hij12ma | If you haven t pressed the brake pedal since you last used FSD AP TACC it ll ask you to depress the brake to shift into reverse. | ttzee | 2021-10-29 16:10:24 | 18 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
hejbjp | Change or View Alternate Route to Destination | There are often multiple ways to get to your destination. Of course the map just picks what it thinks is the fastest at the time. Wouldn t it be great if you could switch between alternate routes to see the additional time predictions? I think google maps offers this. It will show you like the top 3 routes and let you pick. For FSD in the city to be a thing I would hope that you could pick which route you d like to use to get to your destination (maybe one is more scenic less traffic etc). | MoonsEarth | 2020-06-23 17:50:12 | 21 | fvrkmmk | I argue with people about this. GPS picks “the best route” but it doesn t take into account patterns. The “best route” to the lake is a single lane road that s great between midnight and 4:30am otherwise it s a clusterfuck waiting to happen. I might leave my house and Waze shows it s the best way but if I get behind a semi or a school bus it can add half an hour when a parallel road is an extra 4 miles 10 minutes and is two lanes each way so is consistent. GPS picks the short way I intentionally pick the “longer way” and beat everyone to the lake. I would have figured the option to pick from multiple routes is a basic part of GPS now. Tesla doesn t allow it? | kmkmrod | 2020-06-23 17:54:48 | 8 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
debo48 | Changed a life long Jeep Wrangler owner to Tesla model 3 owner within an hour. | Note - I ve been a Jeep Wrangler owner for the past 20 years. I was an active member in many Jeep clubs in the area where I live. I ve been a Jeep guy forever I m sure you can picture the typical jock in a Jeep. It s been 8 weeks since my wife and I stopped into Sherway Gardens for back to school shopping for our son. We walked by the Tesla dealership and I was curious to see what the fuss was all about. I laughed at the thought of owning a Tesla I compared it to the loonies that wait in line for the new Apple iPhones to be released. I expressed this to the employee that was working at the time. As luck would have it there was a cancellation for a test drive and he offered to take us out for a test drive. An hour later I was eating my words and putting down a deposit and trading in my 2018 Jeep Wrangler. It s now been 3 weeks since I took possession of the model 3. The vehicle is amazing and It s much less expensive then a Jeep Wrangler when you factor in the savings on gas. I just wanted to share my story for anyone that s on the fence about test driving a Tesla. It s an amazing piece of machinery and it made the biggest non believer into an owner. If you need me I ll be standing in front of the Apple store waiting for the newest iPhone! | imaleadyannoyed | 2019-10-07 00:06:38 | 309 | f2u49xb | I can t remember the source but the story is that Tesla plans on 3 word of mouth sales for every car they sell. It s just as you found out people are skeptical become aware and then are converted | strontal | 2019-10-07 00:09:02 | 78 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
jf0kdw | Changing Tesla Account password doesn t force you to sign back in from every device | I had shared my Tesla account password with a third party app that has no option to disconnect my Tesla account. I changed my password on Tesla.com but the Tesla app on my phone remained logged in which makes me assume my Tesla account at the third party app remains authenticated. This is not what you d expect when you change a password for a Google account for instance if you re logged into it from multiple places. | Patcher2 | 2020-10-20 22:46:37 | 94 | g9hhqxo | Well that is really a security concern. You should totally contact Tesla and try to ask them to force logout all your devices. | katriik | 2020-10-20 22:55:31 | 58 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
vw6dlq | Chapstick fell into driver s side under-seat grate | So a tube of chapstick fell into the little grate thing under the driver s seat (picture below). I ve scoped it with a USB endoscope and it s about 1.5 ft from the entrance of the grate but I can t get to it. Any thoughts on how I can remove the tube? It rolls and rattles around while driving and it s driving me nuts. On a related note: who in their right mind would design a grate in the floor of a car without some kind of screen to prevent things from rolling into said grate? & #x200B \[EDIT 1\] Credit to [**naichalon**](https: www.reddit.com user naichalon ) for their suggestion to use a leaf blower! I was able to get the chapstick out. Sanity returns. [Air return \(maybe?\) grate under driver s side seat](https: preview.redd.it k7tmvgc0cua91.jpg?width=1696& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=fd293575933923815ede6b9c091e299c98f18738) | harrisonhjones | 2022-07-11 01:23:53 | 34 | ifpbnks | I bought these the day I discovered those vents were uncovered: https: www.amazon.com gp aw d B08YDHBKWG?psc=1& ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title | invoman | 2022-07-11 09:36:34 | 40 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
72caqc | Charge Limit | Tesla recommends charging the battery to 90% for daily driving. I m thinking about stoping at maybe 80% for even better battery longevity. I m curious what does everyone here charge to and why? | Everyusernametaken19 | 2017-09-25 13:07:32 | 10 | dnhczb4 | There was a recent article suggesting 70% for the best battery life and I ve been doing that. Frankly my daily need is only about 50 miles so I m willing to be conservative. | GlasseKannon | 2017-09-25 13:09:43 | 15 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4ratfj | Charge Port Door Sensor Issue (FIXED!) | Just wanted to share how mine got fixed as there seems to be an increasing number of people experiencing this issue. I took it to the service centre y day and they fixed the charge port door issue almost right away! (took like half an hour for them to park my car and run some data) Service told me initially that the fix may take a day or two but turned out it was only a matter of setting for the charge port door sensor. The engineer simply set the sensor sensitivity higher and problem was fixed (meaning it could have been done over the air) Obviously if the sensor is dead then it s a different issue... but one test you can carry to see if it was a dead or insensitive sensor is try pushing the charge port door in fully (completely compressing the spring on the car magnet) and watch your dash or centre screen to see if it senses the charge poor door closure. In my case before the fix my car was able to sense the charge port door closure when the door is pushed and held in indicating it was an insensitive sensor rather than a dead sensor... Really hope this helps as it kept me annoyed and confused for days! Now everything is so much better having the left side of my dash back where Navi instructions and now playing is shown! And of course not needing to guess if my charge poor door is indeed open or not... Cheers Ben | ben_00 | 2016-07-05 03:43:54 | 17 | d4zod2h | OP can you set context on what the issue was. Bit confused here as you only mentioned the fix. | jim472847 | 2016-07-05 05:28:19 | 5 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
dqfl61 | Charge Port Yellow Flashing - Clicking Sound from Port | Drove my Model 3 home from picking something up pulled in popped the charge port cover and tried to plug in. I tried to stretch the cord to get it to the port but it was at a weird angle so it kind of didn t fully connect. I hit the button on the cord pulled out the charger stretched out the cord and tried again. Same-same except as I was pushing in the charger the port cover started to automatically descend. I plugged it in as the port cover hit the top of my charger. It went back up. Again it didn t feel right and I don t think I got the Good Connection light so I pulled out the cord and repositioned the car. Now when I plug in the charger I get a blinking yellow light and there s a click-click sound I think from the charge lock. It s like the lock can t engage for some reason. There s a little warning chime from inside the car but nothing comes up on the screen. After maybe ten click-click sounds it gives up but the light stays blinking yellow. The screen in the car indicates that the car is charging. Any ideas? I ve tried pulling it out and pushing it back in slowly but firmly and there s definitely nothing in the port or on the charger. | wellwrittenhate | 2019-11-02 04:31:14 | 10 | f62zdlg | It s not plugged in all the way something is blocking it. Check the cable pins and the charge port ( lock is on the bottom) | ss68and66 | 2019-11-02 04:34:27 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
a05zbn | Charge Port clicking constantly after 44.2 update | Got the 2018.44.2 update about 20 minutes ago for my Model 3 with the Cold Weather Improvements part in the release notes. Car is sitting in the garage at about 48 degrees totally dry so nothing is frozen. First thing I see on the app is Charge cable may not be plugged in correctly that I ve never seen before so I go check it out. The charge port is clicking seems like very couple of seconds. Cable is not locked in place as expected by the Cold Weather stuff. When I request a charge I can hear the latch hook up the cable gets locked in place and the clicking goes away. When I stop the charge I can hear the latch releasing the cable and the clicking resumes. I tried unplugging and plugging back in several times same result. Also no cable in the car and the clicking is still there. I guess it s not really affecting my ability to charge so maybe just the latch mechanism eventually burns out. Anyone else notice this? | gescarra | 2018-11-25 05:29:55 | 18 | eafft1s | I think they pulled the update. I woke up and both my and my wife s phone said there was an update available. I went into the app on both phones and in the car no update. | kkal82 | 2018-11-25 13:15:42 | 11 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
es2bdu | Charge Reminder | Apologies if this has already been posted... Every so often after I pull into the garage I get distracted (a neighbor walks up I have to run after my garbage can as the wind is taking it away for a ride...) In any event I forget to charge my Tesla until I am in the process of trying to get to work the following morning and don t have enough charge to get there. (I live in a relatively rural area and my commute is ~100 miles.) So the couple of times that I have forgotten to charge I end up having to get to work late which I would like to avoid. I really want a feature where I get a phone notification when the car is parked at home and the battery is below 50% and it is not plugged in. I tried using the Stat s app notification but it doesn t work for me. Seems like something Tesla could do relatively easily. Anybody else relate? | ngdaug | 2020-01-21 22:33:52 | 67 | ff7egnf | Just set a recurring reminder alarm every night through stock phone app? Plugging in should feel just as normal as brushing your teeth before bed. If you don t brush your teeth before bed please do. | SHOTGUN2HEAD | 2020-01-21 23:01:07 | 41 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
4lnzvn | Charge limiting on non-Tesla chargers | Awaiting delivery of 90D. My condo has a ChargePoint charging station to use but I m curious how that works when I set a max charge limit (say 80%). Does the ChargePoint charger keep taking my $$ even if my Tesla is no longer charging? Anyone have experience with ChargePoint? The prices seem pretty steep but for the convenience it makes sense | WhyDontTheyAMA | 2016-05-30 04:50:09 | 16 | d3owbz3 | Cost is set by the owner not chargepoint. Usually either a one time purchase per hour or per kw. Doesn t stop when you finish charging giving you incentive to unplug. At my work it is .50 cents per hour for first 4hours 5$ per hour after that and they cap at 15$ per day (you cam charge as long as you want for 15$). | needaname1234 | 2016-05-30 06:27:32 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5gh8cp | Charge losses from a weekend in a mountain cabin? | I have a x60d and have been invited to an off the grid cabin in the mountains. I won t be able to charge and want to get a grip on how much energy loss I ll be seeing each day leaving the car parked. I expect to have about 50% charge when I arrive (because of the hill climb). I expect to practically recharge on the drive back home. I plan to stay 3 days and nights and temperatures will be 17ºF to 40ºF daily. Anyone have experience leaving their tesla parked outside in those conditions? | bward76 | 2016-12-04 19:42:23 | 32 | dasbgqi | Just got back from a trip where the car stood idle in similar temperature from last Wednesday night until today started at 110 km when I picked it up today it was at 70 km so approximately 10 km a day or roughly 6 miles a day | bjarneh | 2016-12-04 21:17:29 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8dryra | Charge port glitch after car wash (Model 3) | Got my first car wash today at one of those touchless automatic locations. I drove home fine but then when I left my house a bit later there was an error popping up that my charge port needs service. I was able to drive just fine to where I was eating dinner but then when I got into the car afterwards the charge port was continuously opening and closing on its own. When the car was put into drive it stayed closed. It seems to be charging fine now at my house but I was testing out the charge port flap and it would not open every time I told it to. (Called the service center and they just said this is an issue that can happen with car washes and just to make sure to dry it out after a wash. If it keeps glitching then they can send out a service technician) | DatTr0waway | 2018-04-20 23:29:05 | 47 | dxpnjdo | The decision to delay production of my 3 is mainly because I want dual motor but giving Tesla time to squash bugs like these is definitely a welcome side benefit. | pacopacifico | 2018-04-21 01:18:53 | 34 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
812nwp | Charge port shows red on the bottom. | Has anyone seen this before? Is this an indication of a fault? https: i.imgur.com RNtXMJb.jpg | jaymc5 | 2018-03-01 04:37:03 | 17 | dv0f24y | You ve got some electrons dripping on the bottom when you charge. You should shake the charger a little bit before plugging it in so it doesn t drip on the car. | garthreddit | 2018-03-01 12:05:06 | 57 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
j55mse | Charge speed reduced unplug and try again | I am having crappy luck with charging my 4 month old P3D. First [my Gen 3 wall connector was among those that break after 4 weeks of working perfectly](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments i02nxz problems_with_gen_3_wall_connector ). It is a known issue and Tesla sent me a replacement. The new HPWC has worked perfectly for about 4 weeks until last night it would not start charging for like a minute then started fluctuating between 1A and 0A then finally up to 18A then drop to 16A then briefly 17A and finally settling at 16A (4 kW). No issues with the circuit or install. I do not think it s the HPWC this time. I believe it is the car because (1) the HPWC shows no errors no flashing red light (2) the car reports a new error for me: “charge speed reduced unplug and try again” and (3) I Google searched. Based on what I can find online this error happens when the “Power Conversion System” (PCS) has failed. Apparently the PCS has three 16A controllers. When one goes down you can charge only at 32A. When two go down you are limited to 16A. I must have 2 3 of the board not working. It seems I am not alone as [there are tons of “Tesla PCS Failure” and “PCS Replacement” threads on TWC](https: www.google.com search?q=power+conversion+system+failure+tesla+site:teslamotorsclub.com& safe=off& rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS877US877& sa=X& ved=2ahUKEwjP8cXW3JvsAhU2gnIEHf0zBLkQrQIoBHoECAYQBQ& biw=2560& bih=1307& dpr=1.5). [Some here at Reddit too](https: www.reddit.com r teslamotors comments ca8vqf charge_speed_reduced_anyone_had_an_issue_with ). I took pictures and scheduled a service appointment. The soonest is 10 days out and since you can t actually talk to anyone at Tesla: 1. Is it okay to drive the car 1. I m still charging at 16A should I not -- it seems to work just takes 4 times as long 1. Some threads online suggest this failure could negatively impact the 12V battery 1. Is there a way to talk to someone at Tesla to get this looked at sooner or at least to let me know whether it is fine to wait 10 days for service FWIW I tried supercharging last night. It charged the battery but at like 80kW at a 250kW station. I don t know if that is normal or if it s conveniently also about 1 3 of the rate it should be. There were no error messages when supercharging. Also the car seems to drive normally. Thanks for any help. I knew I d have to put up with stuff like this when buying a Tesla so I m not super annoyed. I mostly hate not being able to just bring it into service and get someone to look at it right away like any other car. | FatherPhil | 2020-10-04 20:10:20 | 38 | g7pzbrq | FWIW if one or two of the PCS s AC-DC converters were failed then supercharging should not be affected as it is DC directly into the battery pack (AC-DC conversion is outside the car in the supercharging cabinet.) | tomoldbury | 2020-10-04 20:47:32 | 6 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
50tax6 | Charge time on long road trips? | I am a Model 3 reservation holder but I will probably be able to buy a Model S before the 3s come out. Either way I ve been trying to figure out how much range I will need. I live in the Denver area and have family in North Texas so we ll be making that trip fairly often. The only stretch I am concerned about is Trinidad CO to Amarillo TX down US87 which is 225 miles SC to SC - the I70 option is out of the question as it would add 3+ hours to the trip. With the 60D that is about 100% of the battery so I m assuming it would take at least an hour at the charger but what about the 75D or the 90D options? Would the charge time be a more reasonable 20-30 minutes? Trying to wrap my head around how long charging really takes. Thanks! | IceChickens | 2016-09-02 13:47:32 | 12 | d76t43v | We just completed a fairly long road trip with our X (90D). Here s my basic thoughts on battery size charging length etc.: 1. You never want to plan a connection that requires ~100% of the battery. Estimates are estimates not definite and if you re relying on the last 10 miles of range to get you there without running out you re likely to be in trouble. We aimed to always arrive at > 10% although we once decided to head towards a supercharger where we started at about 20% and were estimated to arrive at 3%. (With driving 60 mph and low use of AC we arrived at 5%.) 2. You re very likely to use any extra battery capacity you have--it gives you flexibility to e.g. do some local driving on the night you arrive and travel to the Supercharger the next morning or to spend some time in one location doing local driving without worrying about recharging or whatever. 3. Charging from 20% to 80% seems to be the sweet spot and usually takes half an hour or so. In concrete terms during the good section of charging you should be getting about 100-110 kw so charging a 90D from 20% (~18 kwh) to 80% (~72 kwh) takes about 0.5 to 0.54 hours so right around half an hour. If you need to get up to 100% though you need to expect it to take longer. All that said don t stress about the length of the charging--you can usually plan the supercharging for meals etc. and we would often get out for lunch and find that the charging was above what we needed by the time we got back in the car. Instead I d think about your usage pattern (how often are you going to use the extra range) making sure you have enough of a buffer (I don t think a 60D has enough range for a 225 trip--its EPA rating is 219 miles of range and that s (a) optimistic and (b) from 100% a 75D is more realistic but I would probably want a 90D for that trip) and of course your financial capabilities and what you can afford. We got the 90D because they had earlier deliveries than the smaller batteries but it made a big difference for our trip. Enough to be worth the extra money? I dunno. But it s definitely nice to have on a roadtrip. That said something like 48 weeks out of the year it s irrelevant. | CerebralPaladin | 2016-09-02 14:55:24 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bzdbw5 | Chargepoint vs. Tesla home charger? | Are there any major differences if I were to use a ChargePoint home charger instead of a Tesla one? My utility company has a deal going that offers a $2 500 rebate on the purchase of an EV plus a home charger but the catch is that it HAS to be a ChargePoint home station (it also costs $150 more to buy through their required link instead of an Amazon link but that s a complaint for another day). Then I have to register and I think I have to create a ChargePoint account and provide my credit card (for a home charger??) so that seems like an annoying thing too. Will I have the connectivity needed to charge the car? Adapter? Charge rates? I saw it needs a 5-30 plug to plug into the wall (or just hardwire it) but I m not an electrician so not sure what that would translate into real world for me. I thought I would either skimp and not get a home charger or get the Tesla one but I don t think I can throw away a $2 500 rebate check just for avoiding the purchase of a $650 home charger. It s not the one I would buy but are there any critical red flags for doing something like this? Thanks in advance. | borekk | 2019-06-11 14:41:13 | 11 | eqs0r5b | So get the CP charger installed then buy an HPWC with your rebate check and put the CP charger on eBay... | ekobres | 2019-06-11 17:28:59 | 29 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
bstl0u | Charger Release Without Waking Up Fixed in 16.2? | One of my pet peeves has always been the need to touch the door handle or otherwise wake up the car before it would release the charger. Since 16.2 however as soon as I push the button on my home charger the Tesla charge port lights up and the plug slides out like butter. I don t know about you but it s these tiny little annoyances that when they get fixed make me appreciate the car even more. My wife s new Subaru already has little features that annoy me and I know that won t ever be fixed as long as we own the car. I hope this hits the character limit because I m not going to type this all out again. I wrote this whole post while on autopilot on an empty interstate - I m a bad boy. | garthreddit | 2019-05-25 11:42:35 | 29 | eoq4nkx | Still there for me on 16.2. | umtsaumtsa | 2019-05-25 11:47:33 | 7 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
jmcgdo | Charger Waypoint Preference | One thing I wish existed was a way to have more of an ability to choose different charging waypoints that are auto-calculated for a trip. On a trip from DC to NYC it took me about 10-15 min to set navigation to a charger just outside the city (I prefer to “go the distance” on the charge) vs. the auto-selected one at the very middle of the journey (that would leave me at 5% entering NYC). I had to keep cancelling then it zoomed all the back to my present location then I had to zoom way out to manually choose a charge point outside etc. | theethiopiankook | 2020-11-01 23:25:19 | 18 | gaud6s8 | Until they have multi-waypoint trips I always just route to my next stop and don t try to have Tesla do it for me at all. | darknavi | 2020-11-01 23:29:46 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
5jdfc1 | Charger fee notification while being worked on | Is anyone else getting the alerts every 15 minutes or so to move your car otherwise you ll get fees when your car is in for service and Tesla is apparently charging it before pick-up. Obviously they can t actually charge for it but slightly annoying these alerts aren t turned off when remote access is disabled (which is common practice when being service). Ended up turning off notifications in the iPhone app for the time being. | figers | 2016-12-20 14:09:11 | 49 | dbfa2vg | Looks like they haven t whitelisted the superchargers at service stations. | JBStroodle | 2016-12-20 14:58:33 | 30 | Miscellaneous Tesla Topic |
dmhdjn | Chargin Car over night - doesn t keep it at 90%. Gets to 90% stops vampire drain takes it to 87 by morning | This is my first Tesla but the third EV that we currently own. Typically I ll night time charge in the garage. Plug in at last part of day unplug and go in the morning. On my other cars they charged up and trickle stayed charged (100% usually as unlike Tesla I don t see an option to max charge at a %) They re at 100 until I unplug. However with the Tesla i hit the 90% mark and then stuff that s running on the car will vampire out a few % points and the charger won t put energy back in unless I unplug plug back in. Just curious if this is because I m using J1772 to charge vs a Tesla charger or something else or just how it works. Thanks | 4kids | 2019-10-24 14:42:41 | 27 | f50kcmt | Good thing they are adding the time to finish charging option in the next release for you. | NetBrown | 2019-10-24 14:52:32 | 48 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
fiu6go | Charging 101 connectors to kilowatts | [Chargers Adapters and Speeds](https: docdro.id e6tly2e) (updated v5) Intended to provide some framework and fundamental knowledge to new EV owners regarding different charge options outlets home chargers and just how much charging they may need. Edit: Uploaded v2 to correct 110 120v somewhat clarify circuit sizing vs current draw and add a section how to charge faster . | fosterdad2017 | 2020-03-15 02:19:31 | 24 | fkja95h | Not a bad reference except that you keep saying 110 220V where you mean 120 240V. | archbish99 | 2020-03-15 02:45:05 | 13 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
j1gxjo | Charging Cable Holder | I wrap the Mobile Connector charger cable up as quickly as I can every morning after unplugging my Model 3 and neatly place it on the floor. It takes a couple of seconds but honestly it s getting annoying. I don t want to drill on the wall in my garage or else I would ve bought [Tesla s Cable Organizer](https: shop.tesla.com product cable-organizer). I was looking for ideas online and found [this](https: www.youtube.com watch?v=q8S2gsGobI0). The problem is I don t own or know anyone with a 3D printer. I searched online for a while but it doesn t look like anyone sells anything close to it. The Charger is currently connected behind one of [these racks](https: imgur.com a Tgv36Rk). I had originally thought of placing the 3D printed cable holder along the edge of the rack similar to how they showed it in the video. The outlet is right behind the rack. There s just enough space for the power brick to fit. Anyone here have any ideas or hack that I could try out? I d appreciate it. | Hawkshell | 2020-09-28 17:50:56 | 11 | g6z7xh6 | Check online for 3D printing services. You can upload your design and they ll print and ship it out. | iRemz | 2020-09-28 18:19:49 | 9 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
4d74jf | Charging Etiquette? | I was wondering how people deal with the etiquette of charging their car when visiting friends or family? For example when you re visiting family for a week how do you handle charging your car while you re there? Additionally is there any proper behavior to be aware of at supercharging stations that new owners should be aware of? | BVsaPike | 2016-04-03 17:55:36 | 16 | d1ogbo5 | You might be interested in this: [EV ettiquette hang tags](http: www.takechargeandgo.com 2015 02 14 hangers ) There are a couple of resellers floating around (eg [this](http: www.electriccarpledge.com electric-vehicle-charging-hang-tags ) and [this](http: evannex.com products charging-hang-tag-courtesy-notice-package)) but I prefer to support the original creator. | [deleted] | 2016-04-03 20:26:59 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
c1x2zo | Charging Model 3 SR to 100% Regularly Okay? | We bought a Model 3 SR software locked from 240 miles to 220 miles. I understand that in order to preserve the battery for as long as possible that you re not supposed to charge it all the way to 100% regularly. However I assume this shouldn t really affect the SR since it s artificially locked and not actually charging the battery to 100%. Would charging it to 220 miles daily hurt the battery? Edit:. Found this thread about a discussion from Tesla support. https: teslamotorsclub.com tmc threads charging-100-for-model-3-standard.152184 | J3ST3Rx | 2019-06-18 03:16:31 | 12 | erg6j6j | Do you need 220 miles to drive daily? If not just set it to 90 or 80%. | CptCheez | 2019-06-18 03:18:51 | 20 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
8aiguu | Charging Model 3 at my apartment | So if all goes to plan I ll be taking delivery of my Model 3 this Thursday. Huzzah! I have a charging question - I live in one unit of a two-unit house and my landlord lives in the other. The garage is part of his unit. We ve talked briefly about me charging there and he s on board but I haven t wanted to get too technical until it was real. If I charge using his outlet is there an easy way to see how much power I ve used for each charge? Ideally it would be a feature in the app on on the model 3 where I could see how much I charge at the end of each month then I d just multiply that by the price of electricity at my place. Failing that I could just send him a photo of the screen at the end of each charge if the readout is easy for a non-EV nerd to make sense of. Has anyone else found a clean workflow for this? I d love to make it as easy on my landlord as possible so he doesn t end up saying Eh this is too complicated just charge somewhere else. Tips or other suggestions appreciated! | aldenford | 2018-04-07 14:43:24 | 38 | dwyvhvi | Maybe pay him a flat rate each month? How many miles do you drive each month on average? Divide that by 4 and multiply by the cost of a kwh. If you drive around 1 000 miles a month and electricity is 10 cents per kwh you d pay him $25 month. | Acrasia88 | 2018-04-07 14:57:46 | 31 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
f6h0uf | Charging Model 3 from Tesla Solar + Powerwalls | We recently got our 11.34 kW Tesla Solar panels installed along with two Powerwalls. Previously we d charge our Mid-Range Model 3 overnight when the rates were the lowest. Since we re now running the house off of the Powerwalls at night it would be crazy to charge then as the car would completely deplete the Powerwalls so we re going to try to switch to charging during the day so the solar panels do the work. But this will likely mean that we ll still pull some power from the Powerwalls anyway when we d rather be charging them up during the day. For others out there with a similar setup what do you do? Is there a way to tell the system to only charge the car from solar or to tell the Powerwalls to not supply power for charging the car? I m probably overthinking it worrying too much about discharging the Powerwalls too often but I thought I d ask and see how other handle charging their Tesla s with solar + Powerwalls. | elixirgraphics | 2020-02-19 20:42:15 | 46 | fi4q42j | Deplete your powerwalls during the day by selling energy back to the grid (when it s most needed). Then run the house off the grid at night and only leave emergency reserve in the powerwalls. If you want to go completely off grid energy at night is always going to be a problem in that case its best to charge the cars while the sun is out. | pwn777 | 2020-02-19 21:03:33 | 20 | Tesla Solar Panel Decision |
eo132o | Charging Model 3 in Korea | Hi all I just moved to Korea and I shipped my Model 3 from the US which will be arriving shortly. There are a few charging options where I live and I wanted to get the opinion on the community regarding the best option. In the photo it looks like option 4 is a J1772. Option 2 looks like CHAdeMO but I m not certain. I m thinking of sticking with the J1772 as it s likely the most cost effective option. The CHAdeMO adaptor runs for $450 when it s available from Tesla s store. Any input is appreciated. Thanks! & #x200B https: preview.redd.it al0abuoz2ia41.jpg?width=4032& format=pjpg& auto=webp& s=0acf5ff327dde449280b824fa4f7581235d37bc3 | fishdust | 2020-01-13 07:45:36 | 31 | fe6rp6y | Option 3 is CCS | Ryan_Lines | 2020-01-13 07:57:04 | 20 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
c0kej3 | Charging Options for Home with 100 Amp Service? | Anyone have an older home with a 100 amp service who has a good charging option? We only have 100 amp service to the house and aren t really prepared to upgrade that yet. The electrician I had come out to assess running a NEMA 14-50 out to our garage to charge my Model 3 (comes Tuesday!) is saying that he ran a load calculation for our home and that they can t add it without upgrading our service. We have a gas furnace but electrical AC hot water dryer washing dish and stove. I specified that we d only run the charger overnight when nothing else (except the HVAC) was on the electrical panel has two open breaker spots and it used to have a hot tub on one of those. Is it likely that I just need to scale down to a 30 AM charging connection maybe? Any thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated! | GrendelJapan | 2019-06-14 13:58:47 | 11 | er59e51 | Just ask what the maximum they think you can go. Getting a 14-30 240 line would still be plenty for overnight charging. You ll charge 22mph in a 14-30. | sabasaba19 | 2019-06-14 14:04:41 | 14 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
kbdprj | Charging Station | I went to a charging station in Orange County today. Waited 25 mins to be the next person that gets charging done. Unbeknownst to me there is a line forming on the OTHER side of the charging stations. I pull into the next available charger only to have some guy come tell me there s a queue. I informed him I ve been sitting in the row in front of him for 25 mins. He keeps repeating that I wasn t in the correct place for the queue. Mind you there s no signage or labeling fir a queue and they re all standing next to a fire lane. I ended up leaving and going to another charger 15 mins away. Tl dr - I hate how unorganized the waiting queue for Tesla charging can be. | 27Dancer27 | 2020-12-11 23:15:21 | 19 | gfi4mnx | That s why software is needed... humans can t behave. A nice ticketing system where you can put yourself in queue when driving to a supercharger in the nav... it can be even automatic like preconditioning of batteries... | djlorenz | 2020-12-12 08:46:35 | 12 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
6zvn9f | Charging Station vs. 240V plug? | I m a bit confused about setting my garage up for charging. If I just install a standard 240v outlet that would be fine? Whats the point of the charging box stations I see? The home charging incentive would work for both or either? | viper2ko | 2017-09-13 16:23:46 | 10 | dmyd4r3 | Tesla s *Wall Connector* allows 4 units to be dazychained allowing for home business owners to run less wire. Most other in-home stations offer better analytics and scheduling. This is beneficial for owners who have solar or dynamic off-peak electricity billing. One other minor benefit is that you don t need to pack up your charging cable when you hit the road. Tesla owners tend to just leaver their charging cable at home. Having a dedicated charging station allows you to leave the cable in the Tesla - allowing you the option of plugging in at locations that don t have dedicated charging equipment. | mat101010 | 2017-09-13 16:37:38 | 8 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
pez51b | Charging Tesla Model 3 with 480V | Can you charge a Tesla Model 3 with 480v? I am buying my first Tesla in a few weeks and have 480v available at my place of work (I know very little about electrical). Advantages and disadvantages? | BrianP1999 | 2021-08-31 04:58:24 | 26 | hb1l3u9 | North American Tesla vehicles do not have the option of charging off anything but 120 240v single phase or DC fast charging (there are only 2 charging pins). The onboard charger does not support 480v AC. | Indiana-Krom | 2021-08-31 11:16:45 | 45 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
gqj86a | Charging a Model 3 from intermittent home power | Hey all - I have a model 3 and live in a building that was nice enough to install a 110v outlet in the garage - however the power is hooked up to a timer that controls the lights in the garage - automatically coming on at about 7pm and turning off around 5am. There are some weird quirks about this - namely if the power is out you can t remove the power cable from the car without first opening the car door (so the charge cable has power for the release button). That s a funny one but more concerning to me is that sometimes the Tesla seems to forget to charge. My guess is it goes into a deep-sleep before the power comes on and never wakes up and notices that it can begin to charge. Some days it works fine and I get ~10% charge overnight - other times nothing. If I specifically set an alarm on my phone to just open the Tesla app at 7:30pm then it charges fine - so for sure something to do with sleep. I adore the car otherwise it s an absolute dream although I m sure what I don t emit in exhaust I m making up for in tire pollution :O Does anyone else have this situation? Any tips or hints? Much appreciated! Thanks! | erulabs | 2020-05-25 20:59:31 | 11 | frt3q6u | The cable being locked is always like that if the car is asleep. Just set your car timer to charge at like 7:15PM. That way it will look to start charging when the power is on. | dizzy113 | 2020-05-25 21:37:35 | 17 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
f8vsy1 | Charging a Tesla Model 3 outside of the garage | I am waiting for my Model 3 Performance delivery and while I do that I am looking at charging solutions. I decided to have a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed and use the mobile connector for charging considering the length of my commute. The outlet will be inside the garage but the car will be sitting outside most of the time. What do people do in these situations: 1. Install an additional outlet outside the garage (are you worried about the MC getting stolen while charging overnight?) 2. Run the charging cable under the garage door (are you worried about the cable getting pinched?) 3. other I like #1 but I don t want to be in the business or replacing stolen MCs and worried that #2 might result in a short and 🔥 Any other ideas options or creative solutions? Thanks in advance for the help and advice! | SnoopyMutant | 2020-02-24 18:39:15 | 17 | finttxe | Do number one and put it in a lockable outdoor RV box. The cable will be locked into the car the plug side will be locked into the box (since the cable is two pieces) https: i.imgur.com Y7OuvBV.jpg Here s mine. There are holes on the side that let you padlock the cover in place. | dubsteponmycat | 2020-02-24 18:47:21 | 29 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
dx10zy | Charging a semi at home. | As a truck driver the semi makes me drool. I drive local only and an home every night. Has there been any discussion on how long it would take to charge a Tesla semi at home on a level two charger? If it s not feasible what charge rate would be needed if we had a 10 hour charge window to work with? | TheReallyHappySock | 2019-11-16 02:39:04 | 82 | f7mvm9t | Buy two houses. Park the Semi in between them. Hook up 4 HPWC simultaneously to the Semi. | dltesla | 2019-11-16 03:31:57 | 45 | Tesla Model Travel Experiences |
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