macbook pro or intel windows laptop?
i am looking to buy a new laptop and need some help picking one.

i am deciding whether to get the new macbook pro or intel based windows laptop.

the primary use of the laptop are programming, graphic, video, and 3d. no gaming.

budget is to be under $1500

need to be intel because i need to install os x to program in objective-c.

so should i get a macbook pro, asus rog g750jx, msi ge70, or do you have better recommendation?

thank you.
if you need osx get a mac. getting osx on a pc is very hard and/or illegal. it will also not run as well as it will on a real mac. so my vote is for the macbook pro.
neither of them. much higher specs than you actually need. core i3 with 8 gb ddr ram and an ssd hd all for less than $500 should be more than enough for your uses. no, the top one is not worth it.

the core i7 990x is a very expensive cpu that's ideal for hardcore number crunching, 3d design/rendering and media encoding. but it's not future-proof by any stretch of imagination, that socket is already obsolete.

for everyday use and gaming, the core i5 2500k is the best bang/buck processor on the market. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

if you're building a rig for movie editing or working in maya/3d studio max/blender, you're probably still better off with the core i7 2600k than the 990x because of the huge price disparity. the $700 difference in price corresponds to a small difference in overall performance. for that money you could have a professional workstation graphics card, triple the ram etc.

for gaming, the most important component in your build is the graphics card, and i don't see one listed? roughly 70% of gaming performance is determined by your graphics card. for gaming, even a core i5 2400 with a radeon hd 6970 or gtx 570 is far superior to the more expensive 990x with some $110 graphics card like a radeon hd 5750 or geforce gts 450.

http://www.techspot.com/review/359-nvidia-geforce-gtx-560ti/page7.html

anyway, it's not possible to buy any computer hardware that will still be considered "great" 5+ years later. you want something great by today's standards, on a socket which provides good upgrade options a couple of years down the road. you may not need to upgrade so quickly, but you'd be able to- that's how you get a system to last 5+ years.

ivy bridge will be released in the next few months, and that will outperform sandy bridge. stick with the 2500k but still use your lower end mid-range 5770. the gaming performance is not any better when one looks at them side by side http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/288?vs=287 . when only 100mhz separates the two overclocking the 2500k makes up the negligible difference and can then be pushed up 1ghz more just on air. continue saving for a better card. the 6870 is still settling for mid range located smack dab in the center of mediocreville. wait for a 670 or 680 keplar series gpu's from nvidia or invest in the 7970. any of those cards with 3gb of vram is going to add a huge future proof cushion. buy a z68 http://www.techpowerup.com/161073/msi-s-entire-z68-(g3)-h61-(g3)-series-motherboard-supports-intel-s-22-nm-processors.html or http://www.gigabyte.com/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1048 which will support their newer pci 3.0 system requirements.after you have your next generation keplar or southern islands video cards like the 7970 it's time to save up for the ivy bridge upgrade along with the necessary bios revision. you are going to be saving $100 off the top by going for a 2500k instead of the 2600k that you can immediately apply to your stash for your better gfx card in the future. i would skip right over the 6970's, 580's and 90's and well anything except the newest cards. while your saving it also gives the newly released cards or processors time to show any bugs like sandy had. if you are thinking about overclocking like a science lab it is simply

enter bios via delete, f1 or whatever your default key is to enter "setup"/bios, click huge button that says overclocking, change the multiplier from 33 to 44 and then f10 to save and exit. 3700x is way better for streaming and gaming at the same time. the hit on game performance and also dropped frames when doing both on the same pc is much less with the 3700x so u got some wrong advice from that person.

also as sli sucks why dont u sell your two 1080 tis now u still can get a good price for them and buy a 2080 ti?? or sell at least on of them and buy the 3950x when it comes out. while the 10710u is more powerful, the 10510u is enough for browsing and other office tasks. if you're mostly gonna be browsing or watching movies, both of them will do just fine. but uhd display gives the 10510u an extra advantage.
but if you're gonna be playing games or creating/editing multimedia contents(or 3d renders), the extra power of 10710u will be very handy. how about antec ne550m?


for many pcs, yes. for one in which you invested in a modern ryzen platform and a 2060? no.

you're cutting corners in the wrong place. for these specs, tier b on our housed psu tier list is the minimum i'd be comfortable with. it's really weird to pay extra to go from a 3600 to a 3600x -- or as steve burke noted in his review, you're paying $50 for a letter -- and then use an old, group-regulated psu.

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/psu-tier-list-psucultists.3624094/ <https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000006685/server-products.html>

 

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[View solution in original post](/t5/Processors/If-Intel-Xeon-10-Core-Processor-E7-8891v2-3-2ghz-37-5mb-Cache-8/m-p/695611#M41436) generally the performance of a new generation of "supporting" equipment does not have a huge affect on the true performance. gddr6 is better, but it is not the only reason the super varient is going to be faster. same with pcie generations, and regular ddr3/4 ram. pcie gen 3 is not saturated, so gen 4 should not be a deciding factor (yet). ddr3 is worse than ddr4, but the performance change is seen when comparing the cpus directly, not in the ram alone. for both gpu and cpu, the ram will affect the performance, but not on its own. the rest of the part needs to be able to take advantage of the upgraded ram.

you can just compare the raw performance numbers of those two gpus, like benchmark fps in games, and use that to decide if you want to spend the extra $130 for the better gpu. you do not have to particularly worry about the supporting specs, like gddr5/6, cuda core count, or even base clock speed, because these differences will be reflected in the performance changes as a whole, so you do not have to compare those specific differences. certain models of gpu might be clocked faster, and will perform better, but you compare those models to the same gpu in stock form. ie, not 1650 vs 1650 super at higher clock, you would compare the base speed 1650 super to an upgraded 1650 super, to see how the clock speed boost changes the performance of the card over its stock clocks.

tl: dr, dont bother with the details too much, just use benchmarks/average fps to decide if the extra performance is worth the extra money. you might get a couple hundred if you part it out...ram / dvd drive / cpu / heatsink assembly / hdd / motherboard....failing that, maybe $100 for spares/repair on ebay....

the windows license wold be worth a few bucks too....(although technically, you can't resell these)

the laptop market has really dropped lately, and new laptops are dirt cheap, cmopared to what they were...unfortunately that has a knock on effect for us when we try to resell...

best idea is to part it out, or check out ebays wanted posts, see if anyone is looking for one for spares/repair.

if you feel really apprehensive aboutt aking the loss, you could always claim it off your insurance, as it was accidentally damaged, after all.... left over pc running freenas.firmware and settings are on a usb stick, not the drive.lots of features/options you don't need, but does what you want simply and cheaply.    slightly more $$ in terms of electricity cost unless the leftover pc is a laptop, but zero $ outlay, and your data is portable and accessible.