gaming pc specifications choice of processor and graphic card.?
well, as my desktop pc appears to have fried i'm looking at getting a new computer, i was planning to replace it before it stopped working anyway. i believe the power supply is dead. currently i'm stuck on a very old laptop (clock speed of around 1.6ghz and a geforce 6000ish range card.)

anyway, i'd be looking for a gaming computer around the £500 budget. eventually i came up with a dilemma

the first choice would be

intel core i7-2600 @ 3.40ghz
ati hd 5770 graphic card. (i already have this card and would be transferring it from the desktop)

while the second choice would be:

intel core i5-2500k @ 3.40ghz (perhaps overclocked)
radeon hd 6870 graphic card. (would be purchasing this new)

now i've heard that the i7 isn't a big improvement for the i5 for gaming due to the multi thread support not being supported by games anyway and that i should focus on getting a more powerful graphic card instead of the upgraded processor.

mostly the pc will be used for gaming, ideally at max or very close to max detail and perhaps rendering the odd video or two, however it won't be used for extensive rendering work or 3d modelling.

so what do you guys think between a more powerful processor or the more powerful graphic card, what'd be better for my needs now and for future proofing the computer?

thanks.
stick with the 2500k but still use your lower end mid-range 5770. the gaming performance is not any better when one looks at them side by side http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/288?vs=287 . when only 100mhz separates the two overclocking the 2500k makes up the negligible difference and can then be pushed up 1ghz more just on air. continue saving for a better card. the 6870 is still settling for mid range located smack dab in the center of mediocreville. wait for a 670 or 680 keplar series gpu's from nvidia or invest in the 7970. any of those cards with 3gb of vram is going to add a huge future proof cushion. buy a z68 http://www.techpowerup.com/161073/msi-s-entire-z68-(g3)-h61-(g3)-series-motherboard-supports-intel-s-22-nm-processors.html or http://www.gigabyte.com/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1048 which will support their newer pci 3.0 system requirements.after you have your next generation keplar or southern islands video cards like the 7970 it's time to save up for the ivy bridge upgrade along with the necessary bios revision. you are going to be saving $100 off the top by going for a 2500k instead of the 2600k that you can immediately apply to your stash for your better gfx card in the future. i would skip right over the 6970's, 580's and 90's and well anything except the newest cards. while your saving it also gives the newly released cards or processors time to show any bugs like sandy had. if you are thinking about overclocking like a science lab it is simply

enter bios via delete, f1 or whatever your default key is to enter "setup"/bios, click huge button that says overclocking, change the multiplier from 33 to 44 and then f10 to save and exit.
just normal use may be a bit of light to mid gaming and small projects with photoshop i also want to try and work with adobe video editors i'm a student after all

honestly, all of these laptops are really just designed for web browsing and office. none of them are going to be able to play current aaa games. some indie games, but not current high end games. 

i would go with this one:

hp i5-7200u 8gb ddr4 1tb amd radeon r7 m440 4gb ddr3 760.52 usd

mainly, they are all about the same and it is cheaper. but this one has enough ram and dedicated gpu to do some light gaming. the 7500u model just has a higher clock cpu, it is not worth an extra $120. it is a dual core cpu, so video editing will be a challenge.

the 8250u is a 4 core/8 thread cpu. but with integrated graphics and 4gb of ram, those will be your bottlnecks in most cases. the extra threads will help with video editing, over the other cpus, but you may have issues due to limited ram. 3700x is way better for streaming and gaming at the same time. the hit on game performance and also dropped frames when doing both on the same pc is much less with the 3700x so u got some wrong advice from that person.

also as sli sucks why dont u sell your two 1080 tis now u still can get a good price for them and buy a 2080 ti?? or sell at least on of them and buy the 3950x when it comes out. neither of them. much higher specs than you actually need. core i3 with 8 gb ddr ram and an ssd hd all for less than $500 should be more than enough for your uses. generally the performance of a new generation of "supporting" equipment does not have a huge affect on the true performance. gddr6 is better, but it is not the only reason the super varient is going to be faster. same with pcie generations, and regular ddr3/4 ram. pcie gen 3 is not saturated, so gen 4 should not be a deciding factor (yet). ddr3 is worse than ddr4, but the performance change is seen when comparing the cpus directly, not in the ram alone. for both gpu and cpu, the ram will affect the performance, but not on its own. the rest of the part needs to be able to take advantage of the upgraded ram.

you can just compare the raw performance numbers of those two gpus, like benchmark fps in games, and use that to decide if you want to spend the extra $130 for the better gpu. you do not have to particularly worry about the supporting specs, like gddr5/6, cuda core count, or even base clock speed, because these differences will be reflected in the performance changes as a whole, so you do not have to compare those specific differences. certain models of gpu might be clocked faster, and will perform better, but you compare those models to the same gpu in stock form. ie, not 1650 vs 1650 super at higher clock, you would compare the base speed 1650 super to an upgraded 1650 super, to see how the clock speed boost changes the performance of the card over its stock clocks.

tl: dr, dont bother with the details too much, just use benchmarks/average fps to decide if the extra performance is worth the extra money. how about antec ne550m?


for many pcs, yes. for one in which you invested in a modern ryzen platform and a 2060? no.

you're cutting corners in the wrong place. for these specs, tier b on our housed psu tier list is the minimum i'd be comfortable with. it's really weird to pay extra to go from a 3600 to a 3600x -- or as steve burke noted in his review, you're paying $50 for a letter -- and then use an old, group-regulated psu.

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/psu-tier-list-psucultists.3624094/ <https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000006685/server-products.html>

 

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