Pantone to RGB print on fabric?




QUESTION 1
I've done quite a bit of a research, but I can't wrap my head around Pantone colours. I understand that this is a "system" for achieving exact colours. But how is this achieved? I assume there are no "Pantone Inks", right? So how is this achieved, I just don't get it :( 


I was also using online conversion tools from Pantone (I own a solid coated palette) and on the screen, the colours worked very good. I've never had issues them not matching. 


QUESTION 2
Now I am designing for textile print, which the printer needs in RGB. My second question is - will the colours vary too much if using a Pantone - RGB convertor? 


Thank you so much!
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The system is not perfect. I personally do not like a lot of dumb decisions they made. But the basic idea is that they have:


* A catalog of consistent **printed** colors.
* A set of base colors and the **formulas** to achive the derivated colors.
* The base colors have some **specific values on colorimetry** that are repeatable by diferent manufacturers of inks.



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Yes and no. **Pantone is the system** to have a consistent color. Then, diferent **ink manufacturers** make a set of base inks based on the specifications.


So a manufacturer "HappyInks Inc." make an ink, for example "Pantone Reflex Blue"


**Printers** then go to the formula guide to find the recipy for the colors on the catalog, and go and buy from "Happy Inks" the basic set of colors.


They combine "Pantone Reflex Blue" with "Pantone Sunrise Yellow" in some specified proportions (from the pantone formula guide) to achive "Green XXXc".


If you are going to need a lot of ink of one specific color, the printer do not mix the base inks themselves, but ask for "Happy Inks" to make them some kilos of the ink (based, again on the pantone specifications).


The quality of diferent brands can be more or less accurate. Besides that some characteristics of inks can differ because some could be oriented to silk print, or textiles etc.



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This is a biiiiiig mistake.


RGB is not by any means an acurate color reference. Either your printer is lazy or he is simply using some kind of digital print (but still is ignorant(*).


You need to include a RGB profile. Either sRGB or Adobe 1998 but you need to design using a CMYK profile, which obviously you do not have. So ask for which one is more suitable for that.


If they have no idea or say something like "It does not matter" use one according to your location. SWOP 2, Fogra, Gracol, etc.



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If the project is on flat inks, the proper step would be that you deliver a project in Pantone and let them do the conversions, so they are responsable to match the color the best way possible.


This is why I say they are Ignorant. (*) They ignore what is the calibration of their own machine. They should profile it and give you some clues on what "generic profile" suits them the most.



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This does not say much. Are you printing rolls and rolls of fabric? Are you printing a Tshirt on a digital medium, like a logo for a student party? Are you using silk print for the campain for a company?


**An Aditional note**



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Colors vary for a looooooooot of reasons.


My clasic example, grab a water based cyan marker. You have a specific ink one and only one.


Now go an paint everywhere you want. A news paper, a magazine, a window, a white towel, toilet paper, your hand.


See? The exact same ink vary a lot. This is why you must have an output color profile, so this gives the internal conversions and calculations to have the most acurate color possible due this combination of factors, which color on which medium.


This is why the printer should be responsable for the color conversions.


**Aditional Note 2**


There are some conversions from pantone to cmyk and rgb... Ouch.


This are very specific conversions. On some "ideal" situations.


More or less how an ink will be printed following exact specifications, for example a CMYK: type of paper, type of inks, controlled ammount of them (densitometry), etc.


For an RGB one they assume a calibrated monitor, Correct gamma, correct temperature, sRGB profile. But again this rgb simulation is for output for a web page for example, not as a printable file.


Spot color (Pantone), or Color selection (CMYK)



Depending on the type of design you have the choice to print in either of this 2 color modes.


For example, a design with gradients and diferent colors most likely needs to be printed in color selection.


But some other type of design needs to be printed with spot inks, or direct colors, this reduces costs and aditionally allow the colors to be consistent


[![](https://otake.com.mx/Foros/Directa.jpg)](https://otake.com.mx/Foros/Directa.jpg)
Then it shouldn’t be a problem to set the InDesign Transparency Blend Space to RGB. Also when you export for screens don’t use a PDF/X preset, they are designed for press output. Use the Export Output tab to convert the ID doc to sRGB.


 


CMYK Blend Space:


 


![Screen Shot 10.png](https://community.adobe.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/150842iD57F1CC3C78841C4/image-size/large?v=1.0&px=999 "Screen Shot 10.png")


 


RGB Blend Space:


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with regard to send print jobs to the printer, the best approach is probably going to be to buy a wireless printer and hook it up on your local network. hi [@kkutter](/u/kkutter),

can you provide a little more context as to what your goals are?

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check this codepen: [http…](https://codepen.io/chrisdarroch/pen/wkeyga) Download and install the 64-bit driver for the printer. If this is an old printer, check with the manufacturer to see if they have a 64-bit driver. thanks for the info joe. as it happens i can confirm this; i was teaching on a workshop yesterday and one of the delegates was using a win10 high-res display (a retina display mac booted into win10) and we saw exactly that.

the work around we used was that pixel units seemed to work fine; text beca… > 
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You seem to be using the Windows Photos App, which is not color managed, and will not display correct colors.

Lightroom is color managed, and will display correct colors, as long as the monitor profile is correct.

This difference in color is more pronounced if you have wide gamut monitor, in which case you have to use only color managed applications to view your work.

Bridge and [Irfanview](http://www.irfanview.com/) are both free and color managed (you have to enable color management under Settings in Irfanview).

On Windows 10, the Windows Photo Viewer is apparently still color managed, but it's hidden somewhere. Do a search for it.

A paid option is the latest version of ACDSee (20).


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The color space you set in the camera only affects jpgs (and the jpg embedded in the raw files), if you shoot raw, it doesn't matter which color space you choose. dear student,
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regards The file looks to be fine. It's 4500 X 300 pixels and the quality looks decent. 

The size probably that you're trying to print is quite large and you'll be requiring a larger file to avoid pixelation. 

I'd suggest you probably check with your printer the minimum file size required to print such a canvas and then license a file accordingly. HP have indeed recently released a firmware update that disabled the use of some remanufactured/compatible units. We have however since then sourced alternative stock, designed to work with these firmware updates. Any printer found listed on this page is guaranteed to work and we are always more than happy to help if you ever have any future issues.