amd 3900x or amd 3700x+intel 3570k for gaming and streaming?
hello all, 

i am looking for some insight on parts before i make the move on purchasing. 

currently, i am running a 3570k system with 1080ti's in sli for personal gaming and daily task, but it is insanely bottlenecked at the cpu, because i have to lower graphics quality to prevent cpu loads from hitting 100% in nearly every game ever since going to the 1080ti. i have been running this route for a while patiently waiting for the release of zen 2 ryzen before dropping money on a new system i hope to run for the next 5-7 years again as i did on this 3570k.

after seeing some of the reviews it appears the amd 3700x is producing the same fps in gaming as the 3900x, but just barely behind the intel 9900k by less than 5% margin, but over $100 cheaper. i was thinking of going the 3900/3950x route and just run streaming and gaming off the same pc, but the few reviews i saw when they did a streaming test, there was no difference in fps and dropped frames between the 3700x and 3900x, so because of this i am thinking of going the route of a dual system rig and recycle my old 3570k as the streaming pc and go with the cheaper cpu for gaming...

currently, i have tried to game on my current rig, but just unplayable when attempting to stream anything above 720p@30fps due to the bottlenecking of the 3570k. 


what is your opinions on this? i understand the 3900x is destroying everyone on blender, cinibench and such... but i don't do anything that favors that right now.. i have wanted to get into streaming, just couldn't with my rig and wanted to wait on zen 2 before upgrading my pc.
3700x is way better for streaming and gaming at the same time. the hit on game performance and also dropped frames when doing both on the same pc is much less with the 3700x so u got some wrong advice from that person.

also as sli sucks why dont u sell your two 1080 tis now u still can get a good price for them and buy a 2080 ti?? or sell at least on of them and buy the 3950x when it comes out.
stick with the 2500k but still use your lower end mid-range 5770. the gaming performance is not any better when one looks at them side by side http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/288?vs=287 . when only 100mhz separates the two overclocking the 2500k makes up the negligible difference and can then be pushed up 1ghz more just on air. continue saving for a better card. the 6870 is still settling for mid range located smack dab in the center of mediocreville. wait for a 670 or 680 keplar series gpu's from nvidia or invest in the 7970. any of those cards with 3gb of vram is going to add a huge future proof cushion. buy a z68 http://www.techpowerup.com/161073/msi-s-entire-z68-(g3)-h61-(g3)-series-motherboard-supports-intel-s-22-nm-processors.html or http://www.gigabyte.com/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1048 which will support their newer pci 3.0 system requirements.after you have your next generation keplar or southern islands video cards like the 7970 it's time to save up for the ivy bridge upgrade along with the necessary bios revision. you are going to be saving $100 off the top by going for a 2500k instead of the 2600k that you can immediately apply to your stash for your better gfx card in the future. i would skip right over the 6970's, 580's and 90's and well anything except the newest cards. while your saving it also gives the newly released cards or processors time to show any bugs like sandy had. if you are thinking about overclocking like a science lab it is simply

enter bios via delete, f1 or whatever your default key is to enter "setup"/bios, click huge button that says overclocking, change the multiplier from 33 to 44 and then f10 to save and exit. no, the top one is not worth it.

the core i7 990x is a very expensive cpu that's ideal for hardcore number crunching, 3d design/rendering and media encoding. but it's not future-proof by any stretch of imagination, that socket is already obsolete.

for everyday use and gaming, the core i5 2500k is the best bang/buck processor on the market. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

if you're building a rig for movie editing or working in maya/3d studio max/blender, you're probably still better off with the core i7 2600k than the 990x because of the huge price disparity. the $700 difference in price corresponds to a small difference in overall performance. for that money you could have a professional workstation graphics card, triple the ram etc.

for gaming, the most important component in your build is the graphics card, and i don't see one listed? roughly 70% of gaming performance is determined by your graphics card. for gaming, even a core i5 2400 with a radeon hd 6970 or gtx 570 is far superior to the more expensive 990x with some $110 graphics card like a radeon hd 5750 or geforce gts 450.

http://www.techspot.com/review/359-nvidia-geforce-gtx-560ti/page7.html

anyway, it's not possible to buy any computer hardware that will still be considered "great" 5+ years later. you want something great by today's standards, on a socket which provides good upgrade options a couple of years down the road. you may not need to upgrade so quickly, but you'd be able to- that's how you get a system to last 5+ years.

ivy bridge will be released in the next few months, and that will outperform sandy bridge. neither of them. much higher specs than you actually need. core i3 with 8 gb ddr ram and an ssd hd all for less than $500 should be more than enough for your uses. there is no update from you for a period, assuming this is not an issue any more.

hence we are closing this topic. if need further support, please open a new one.

thanks

what’s the frame rate? have you try boost the system to performance mode to try? just normal use may be a bit of light to mid gaming and small projects with photoshop i also want to try and work with adobe video editors i'm a student after all

honestly, all of these laptops are really just designed for web browsing and office. none of them are going to be able to play current aaa games. some indie games, but not current high end games. 

i would go with this one:

hp i5-7200u 8gb ddr4 1tb amd radeon r7 m440 4gb ddr3 760.52 usd

mainly, they are all about the same and it is cheaper. but this one has enough ram and dedicated gpu to do some light gaming. the 7500u model just has a higher clock cpu, it is not worth an extra $120. it is a dual core cpu, so video editing will be a challenge.

the 8250u is a 4 core/8 thread cpu. but with integrated graphics and 4gb of ram, those will be your bottlnecks in most cases. the extra threads will help with video editing, over the other cpus, but you may have issues due to limited ram. <https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000006685/server-products.html>

 

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