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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "I personally had no issue with Skip's tweet, but it's about reading the room.\n\nDozens of other people were commenting on the situation and going out of their way to not mention or discuss the game outcome but rather focus purely on Hamlin and sending throughts/prayers instead.\n\nOnce I observed that happening it was obvious that the first person to start talking about the impact on game/standings that person was going to be vilified for not being respectful enough of Hamlin and the situation. \n\nAnd if that person happens to be Skip Bayless, who makes his living by being hated... *of course* it would play out exactly as it did.\n\nEverything about it was predictable and obvious. If I had a social media audience, there is no way I would have said anything about the game/standings until at least the next day. Not because I couldn't handle the topic being discussed, but because I could read the room.",
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"body": "!Delta for the idea that any discussion away from Hamlin was going to be ridiculed because of social pressure regardless of if it was actually insensitive or not. I think that is an accurate perspective.",
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"body": "Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Such_Credit7252 ([1∆](/r/changemyview/wiki/user/Such_Credit7252)).\n\n^[Delta System Explained](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/deltasystem) ^| ^[Deltaboards](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/wiki/deltaboards)",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "Kazthespooky",
"body": "Well I think you need to evaluate the critism levied against the tweet. \n\n> Former NFL player Jacob Hester told Bayless to \"read the room, and have a heart.\" Vikings cornerback Patrick Peterson, former NFL player Darelle Revis and NBA analyst Kendrick Perkins, among many others, also criticized Bayless.\n\nIf you say something insensitive to the room, do you need to apologize? It's up to the person who said it. \n\nPersonally, I don't think it needed an apology either but that's for skip to decide right?",
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"body": "The most liked response to his tweet isn't \"read the room,\" but is \"You're a sick individual\" Quickly followed by \"I hope they fire you\" and \"all you care about is football when Damar Hamlin's life is at risk.\"\n\nFurther, how is the tweet insensitive to the room? Seriously, I see nothing insensitive in that tweet at all. Not one thing.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "muyamable",
"body": "If I say something and a not insignificant portion of my audience comes away with the wrong understanding of what I intended to say, it seems reasonable to apologize \"if I was misunderstood\" and to clear up the misunderstanding. Particularly if I'm a public figure whose job could be on the line if this misunderstanding isn't cleared up.",
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"body": "It may be reasonable to clarify the meaning, though even there if what's being said is simple and straightforward I don't necessarily agree. But if someone gets upset and becomes rude because they are ignoring the plain meaning of what is said and is rather overtly ignoring what was said, that is not a reason to apologize.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "He knows or should damn well know the NFL has contingencies in place for events like this. Yes, it was a crucial game for playoff seeding. But to present this like the NFL is clueless was asinine on his part. He should apology for putting such stupidity into the social media aether.",
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"body": "> the NFL has contingencies in place for events like this\n\nExcept they don't. \n\n\nThat's why the commissioner and the player's union were rushing to figure out how to respond. \n\n\nWhen was the last time you recall a game being cancelled due to an injury? \n\n\nWhen was the last time you recall a game being canceled due to an injury? \n\n\nI honestly do not think one ever has been before. \n\n \n I'd note as a former combat medic, that a spinal injury of that magnitude is not something one is guaranteed to survive either. Jack Tatum destroyed Darryl Stingley and he nearly died on the field. The game went on.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "IndependenceAway8724",
"body": "If you say something that unintentionally hurts people's feelings, and they're people you care about, you apologize.\n\nAn apology is a way of expressing regret and sympathy, not a confession of guilt. It doesn't cost you anything to say your sorry, especially if you actually feel sorry.",
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"author": "kingpatzer",
"body": "I would suggest that interpersonal communication inside the context of a relationship with someone you care about is not the context of a tweet :)\n\nAnd in such situations, I personally still tend not to apologize. Rather, I'll go for reframing what was said to help with understanding. I don't believe I'm responsible for other people's emotional states, particularly if such states are caused by failing to consider the information in front of them. If I honestly can not see how what I said is offensive, then I don't apologize for it. \\*shrug\\*.\n\nMaybe I'm weird but my incorrect understanding of what someone was trying to say isn't a reason for me to get upset. It's a reason for me to slow down and ensure I comprehend correctly. So I don't think it's a reason for others to either.\n\nNow, if I ask follow-up questions, and come to believe I do understand what is being said correctly and it's still offensive, then I absolutely can and do get upset, and would want an apology. But my first step is to ensure I know what was actually communicated, not to jump right to the end and assume my understanding is infallible.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Who the fuck is that?",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "cleverorator",
"body": "I agree with you nearly completely with one minor detail: People, especially performers, are responsible for how there words are interpreted. This is his job and livelihood.\n\nI don't see how anything he said is worthy of the hate he got, I think he was correct and making an artistic choice in delivery. The problem is that his choice obscured his message.",
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"author": "kingpatzer",
"body": ">People, especially performers, are responsible for how there words are interpreted\n\nI don't think that people in general are responsible for how a listener interprets their word choice. I do think that if they want to be effective communicators and the listener asks for clarification, they have a responsibility to provide it. That's sort of the \"contract\" of being a good-faith interlocutor. \n\n\nBut if someone hears a statement and jumps to a conclusion not fully supported by what was literally said, that is not the speaker's fault or responsibility. \n\n\nHowever, I think your point about performers is exciting and worth exploring. I think you're spot on when talking bout someone \"on screen\" where the audience has no ability to ask for clarification. But does that extend to mediums like Twitter that are more interactive? I'm not sure. I could see arguments both ways.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "liknoramus",
"body": "This is a pretty standard turn of events for Twitter, right?",
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"author": "kingpatzer",
"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "xanadu13",
"body": "I think you're right technically, but it's what Skip always does. It's just an asshole tweet with really bad timing. Like, let things settle, and let the NFL and NFLPA breathe and try to figure out some options before you come off as the callous one. \n\nBecause also, his tweet is impractical because the players would refuse to do it. Or what, you want to have players actively crying on the field while they play? The overwhelming response from the football culture was to stop the game. If as a commentator who already has a reputation for being cantankerous and over the top is the only one saying what you're saying, you're lacking tact.",
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"body": "Someone else commented that while what he said wasn't improper, the social context meant that the first person to talk about anything other than Hamlin would be considered callous. That it was Skip Bayless just gave people who already dislike him because he's kind of an ass a reason to jump on him.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "People like to feel holier than thou, so they get righteously upset as opposed to just being rational.",
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"body": "Sure. But there's no reason to apologize to people for their irrationality and their own resulting inappropriate emotional states.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Many have it correct here - it was the order and overall explanation he gave that seems his priority was the game instead of the player. Whether or not it was his intention, being a massive sports personality comes with the territory of revising what you say.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Not a Skip fan, but I agree. This incident is unprecedented but not by much. On a recent episode of Bomani Jones’ podcast, Domonique Foxworth listed incidents which were a “play on” in his career. These included people being helicoptered off the field in practice, concussions, all manner of injury, and a player dying after a preseason game. I think the injury began to manifest on-field but not as serious as Hamlin’s.\n\nAt least two people were paralyzed on the field in the early 1990s and those games weren’t stopped. Of course guys regain feeling hours after those hits most times.\n\nI think if this happened pre-Covid they’d have played through it. Myself I don’t have argument with the players one way or the other on the decision to play on.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "While I don’t think there was anything wrong with Skip’s tweet, he made a mistake of opening the door for controversy (unless it was intentional for controversy of course which is a real possibility) and as a talking head he should have the most scrutiny since his job is literal to put out his thoughts to be judged. \n\nHowever I think there was a very large demand for outrage over this incident with little actual supply. I think when a lot of players and just moral people in general see this happen they have an image in their mind of people who are saying “play on”. In this case I don’t think that really existed at all but Skip opened the door and people took out their frustration on him.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "I get what you mean because generally I think people go way too hard on celebrities. People literally saying “we need to cancel skip immediately” and then people will be on here saying “cancel culture isn’t real”. It’s goofy. \n\nWith that being said I personally do think the tweet was a little insensitive though. What was skip trying to actually say by bringing up the games and what the nfl is going to do? Then saying it’s all so irrelevant? If it’s irrelevant then why are you mentioning it ? It just leaves so much room for misinterpretation and when someone’s in a life or death situation you probably should proofread your tweet a little bit before putting it out there for everyone to see. And if he wasn’t aware until after, about how bad the injury was, then he shouldn’t of been tweeting until doing his research on what actually happened. That’s his whole job. He knows the times we live in where things can be taken the wrong way. \n\nBut no I don’t think he’s REQUIRED to apologize or explain but yet he already did. So why are we even debating whether he needed to or not. He chose to on his own.",
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"body": "> What was skip trying to actually say by bringing up the games and what the nfl is going to do?\n\nThe NFL had an _immediate_ decision to make about whether to abandon the game or play on, however irrelevant such a decision may have seemed at the time, or indeed seem now, it still had to be made. So commentating about that and the relevant factors, sensitively and after previous remarks about the even more immediate concern of the medical emergency, seems appropriate to me.\n\n> Then saying it’s all so irrelevant? If it’s irrelevant then why are you mentioning it ?\n\nHe didn't say it _was_ irrelevant, he said it _seems_ irrelevant. The difference is subtle and I obviously don't know if it's a distinction Bayless intended, but my interpretation (as I hinted above) is that he was acknowledging that there was an immediate decision to be made even though it seems like it should be irrelevant.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Yes people die all the time but context matters. How it happened and the idea a young person can have their life taken away, although logical, in this context is shocking. \n\nI’m this case it was personal to millions of people. How many people have died on live tv? Not many \n\nHumans have an ego protecting protocol to place things we try to ignore in a far away bucket. Sports by their nature are where humans go to escape hardship. Be it work or divorce or politics or death. \n\nIn this case millions of people had their ego protected illusion of escape shattered by a person nearly dying. \n\nIn effect his accident forced reality back on us in a way we strongly object to.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Horse pucky. It was not appropriate to even discuss the NFL at a time when a man is fighting for his life. The entire subject should have been his health and welfare and not the impact of n to playing the game at another time. Something is wrong with us when we cannot sense when something said and when is said and whether or not saying it is appropriate. It is not the truth that matters it is the compassion and empathy required at the time in which he wrote it. This is really not hard.",
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"body": "Countless lives are ruined by playing football every. single. year.\n\nWhat made this player's suffering more serious than every other players'?",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "The issue is that he expressed concern over the game in such a way as to increase its relative importance (and thus decrease the relative importance of a life-threatening issue), by the way he ordered the phrasing.\n\nHad he said something like the following - *in this order* - no one would complain\n\n1. Hamlin is priority #1. Everything else is irrelevant \n2. NFL has/will postpone the game\n3. We'll figure out when to reschedule it later.",
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"body": "He kinda did with the previous 2 tweets. First one literally said that he prayed for Hamlin. \n\nI consider those tweets as part of a series. And the outrage is pulling a sentence out of a paragraph.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "As a football (soccer) fan, i get where he came from. This thing happened a lot of times in the sport, it isn't a surprise for me anymore when it happens in another. Game continues and the person in the incident survived, even went back to play in another season.\n\nHowever, my problem is him demanding to get the game resumed when most people agree that cancelling it is a better way to go, because they want to give more attention to the incident rather than anything else\n\nFor me, it's better for Skip to just keep the tweet for himself this time. Not because what's right, but to keep things less complicated than what it already is\n\n​\n\nIn short, READ THE MF ROOM",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "also screws with fantasy football, which is a high part of the nfl",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "TruthSpeakin",
"body": "It's people reaching, over reacting, twisting words...happens all the time...someone says something and it's interpretation is twisted...",
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"body": "there’s no twisting words😂he worded it how he wanted too because that’s what he meant… skip isn’t 13, he knows how to communicate. He said clear as day “but how?”, that paired with “which suddenly seems irrelevant”. He’s clearly not talking about why the game should be postponed like he’s trying to backpedal and claim",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "His apology or explanation WAS required because he made the tweet to elicit one. Knowingly, it would create buzz and controversy. It worked. You made a CMV about it.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "Mercury756",
"body": "Ofc it didn’t. The only problem with that tweet was it highlighted just how ignorant and illiterate the vast majority of people on Twitter have become. Skip might be a loud dumbass most of the time, but in this situation he was spot on. And if you still don’t get it people just look at it from the antithesis of his argument. If you are in disagreement with him then you have either of two arguments; 1) there are no major implications on the game nor the rest of the nfl teams and there would be small and few further reaching problems created. Or 2) the kids life doesn’t matter. Or I suppose a third which is both. 1 is just objectively false and two makes you a pile of garbage, so again either people reading this have no reading comp skills, they just want to hate on him, or they’re horrible people to start with. So no, obviously it didn’t need an apology.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "Federal-Membership-1",
"body": "-but how?. He didn't say \"but why?\" The question remains. How are they gonna do it?",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "oldfogey12345",
"body": "Bayless is paid to be an A hole. Christ I wish I had his job.\n\nBut after a tragedy big enough to postpone a game, you have to wait at least a week to talk about things like season continuation or you get backlash.\n\nBayless is paid to deal with backlash. Him being a prick like that is why he is hired..\n\nBut it's a classic case of too soon.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "BreeCherie",
"body": "People misunderstood the tweet. Clarify, apologize for the misunderstanding, and delete the tweet. Instead he is refusing to delete the tweet which all I can really amount to is stubbornness. Is the tweet really the important thing right now?",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "TheodoraRoosevelt21",
"body": "I can see your perspective on this issue. It's true that Bayless' tweet was factually accurate and didn't show disrespect towards Hamlin or his family. However, it's also important to consider the context in which the tweet was made and the potential impact it could have on others.\r \n\r \nIn the moment, Bayless was commenting on a serious medical emergency involving a player on the field. It's understandable that some people might find it inappropriate to immediately shift the focus to the potential impact on the game and playoffs, especially given the uncertainty and gravity of the situation at the time.\r \n\r \nFurthermore, it's possible that Bayless' tweet could have been perceived as callous or lacking in empathy towards Hamlin and his family, especially if it was read out of context. It's important to remember that words and actions can have unintended consequences, and it's always a good idea to consider the potential impact of our words on others.\r \n\r \nIn summary, while Bayless' tweet may not have required an apology or explanation, it's understandable why some people might have taken issue with it. It's important to always be mindful of the context in which we speak and the potential impact of our words on others.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Did you watch the game? He was dying on the field at the time, and Skip decides to tweet about the impact delaying the game will have. Maybe, Skip could have tweeted something similar today, but when he is dying on the field? \n\nAlso, most people understand what he meant by the tweet. Yeah, he said that it is irrelevant. It is so irrelevant that it shouldn’t be mentioned. How would you feel if someone talked about your moms inheritance while she is having a heart attack? \n\nAt the end of the day, no focus should have been put on the impact of delaying the game while the guy is dying. End of story.",
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"body": "I love how everyone that is outraged that he \"didn't acknowledge the tragedy of Damar\" are literally ignoring his previous tweets talking about how terrible the situation was.\n\nRead his damn tweets instead of hyper focusing on outrage.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "My question to those who thought it was insensitive is when exactly would it be ok for someone to raise this question that was already on the minds of many? What time would be ideal for you to look at this arrangement of words and punctuation without you clutching your pearls?",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "Quanarin2026",
"body": "It’s a football game. Construction work rarely halts when there’s an accident. It’s tragic but everything keeps moving especially when big moneys involved.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "OJJhara",
"body": "This seems like concern trolling",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "GothicToast",
"body": "If he had put his last sentence first, he may have avoided the backlash. It was almost like people chose not to read the whole tweet, or they have the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader.\n\nIt was very clear that he was saying \"this game has huge playoff implications, yet none of that matters in the face of this tragedy\"\n\nI guess the response to that could be, \"No shit, Sherlock.\" But I don't see how it would require an apology.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "MajesticFxxkingEagle",
"body": "So for starters, I largely agree with you in that there is nothing wrong with Skip’s initial tweet and it’s not the terrible statement that people were trying to portray it as. He should not be crucified just because some people chose to imbue the worst possible meaning into their interpretation of that tweet.\n\nThat being said, there are still two issues with it:\n1) While the true meaning of the tweet is the opposite of malicious, the way that it was worded/structured left some room for confusion. Again, while it’s not Skip’s fault that people comprehended the tweet wrong, it could have been reworded to be a clearer message that placed more emphasis on the irrelevance of everything else.\n\n2) Even in context, Skip’s tweet, while not heartless, felt insensitive on some level because even mentioning things like playoff importance just seemed like poor timing, even if it was ultimately for the purpose of calling it irrelevant at the end of the tweet. It’s something that just didn’t need to be mentioned.\n\nWith those two criticisms in mind, my biggest problem with Skip isn’t the initial tweet itself as I think he was in the right. The problem is the doubling down and refusing to acknowledge the potential harm in how people were receiving it. He can defend his actions while simultaneously deleting the tweet and clarifying his intentions. Dying on this hill, even when he’s technically right, is ironically creating a bigger distraction from Hamlin’s life—the very thing he says the nfl season is irrelevant compared to.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "infinitude",
"body": "At the moment he fell, not one player on that field cared about the precious season. Not one single player wanted to continue. They are not animals working for our entertainment.\n\nI don't see how he could not have known what was happening without paying attention. In which case, why is he tweeting about something he has yet to inform himself about?\n\nThe tweet was classless and foolish. Skip should have known better. That's why people are upset.",
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"author": "kevinthejuice",
"body": ">I don't see how he could not have known what was happening without paying attention. In which case, why is he tweeting about something he has yet to inform himself about?\n\nNothing really indicates he said all of this at the exact moment the player fell. There was a series of tweets all at different times which suggest he was just live-tweeting his thoughts as the situation unfolded.\n\n>The tweet was classless and foolish. Skip should have known better. That's why people are upset.\n\nNot exactly classless or foolish. If you actually break the tweet down it makes sense. But often on twitter people don't do that an kneejerk reactions happen. A lot of context is required to understand what he might be thinking.\n\nOne concept I think is getting forgotten is the nature of the NFL itself. Fans players, everyone knows a the end of the day \"it's a business\". So my perspective on his question was just open ended to provoke thought and focus on the entity that is \"The NFL\" not the game itself. How will the NFL go forward on this issue? From the perspective of the NFL this game was huge, had many implications beyond the two teams involved. Two playoff teams on a monday night, primetime tv so it was a big $$ draw for the NFL as well. It's never stopped for concussions, complete ankle breaks, leg breaks and other gruesome injuries. A league often seen as dehumanizing to the players.\n\nSo back to the issue now here we are at an incident so different from previous ones we're used to, how does the NFL move forward? We've got an unencountered player safety issue and the league that takes criticism for player safety every single week. Will it take a human approach and postpone the game? Think about how they would go forward with that. The seasons over in two weeks, they can't really just squeeze in a game on short notice before the playoffs start, and there's obvious other logistical difficulties. On the other hand do they just continue the game with the players in the mental state they're in? The message that will send to the rest of the league while they face criticism of player safety among other things.\n\nSo yeah that's the long version of how i interpreted the question he proposed.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "Juan_Inch_Mon",
"body": "I agree with the OP. The outrage at Bayless over his tweet is ridiculous and smacks of virtue signaling by those calling for his job.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS BUNGHOLE AND MAYBE HE'LL GO AWAY!",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Whom?",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "Toshiro8",
"body": "He needs to apologize for being distasteful. A life or death emergency was unfolding. The only focus should have been on the football players well- being and his family. Bringing up another topic around that situation shows a lack of empathy. He chose to tweet something that took the focus off of the unfolding life and death situation. Football should have been an afterthought. Everyone was in shock and waiting for an update as to his situation. That is why he should apologize.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Even when I take into context the other tweets, and hear other people try to rationalize this tweet, I still have to disagree for a couple of reasons.\n\nOne, the way it was phrased reflects a passive voice when it comes to the concern about Hamlin's injury in this specific tweet, the \"but how?\" is far too ambiguous in wording to be clear in the terms of \"how would it be scheduled\", and the \"pause\" still reads like an afterthought. If anything, it reads more like \"Well, I've expressed the necessary grief, now to worry about the game\" to me. Just because you can't see it as being interpreted any other way doesn't mean it can't be. Also, at the time, it wasn't clear that the NFL was \"clearly\" planning on postponing. Players were seen warming up and ESPN reported on air that the teams had been given 5 minutes to warm up prior to the teams being pulled by their coaches. Major Twitter trends were calling for the NFL to call the game. When you add the atmosphere on Twitter at the moment of Skip's tweet into it, the above interpretation seems more and more plausible, and Skip doesn't really have a clean track record when it comes to being respectful in his opinions - see the rather personal shot(s) he took at Shannon Sharpe when Sharpe dared to say Tom Brady wasn't having a great season this year.\n\nTwo is what happened on his show today with Shannon. Shannon skipped yesterday because he didn't want to get into it, and when he came back today he started off by trying to clear the air and talk about what happened and why he wasn't on the show. Skip [immediately jumps in and interrupts him](https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2023/01/03/skip-bayless-apologize-damar-hamlin-cprog-orig-ht.cnn-business) and starts trying to talk over him. Shannon eventually finishes what he was going to say (after berating Skip for interrupting him) and Skip doubles down repeatedly, saying that \"Well nobody here had a problem with it\" in addition to saying that he was \"trying to put himself in the mindset of the NFL execs\" in a different video. It was sloppily worded, it had bad optics, and Skip knows it.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Just want to say I 100% agree with op on this one. I thought I was losing my mind when the initial reaction to the tweet was so unanimously negative and I could not comprehend what Skip said was disrespectful to Hamlin. \n\nIn my view, I believe what happened was an issue of timing. People were in the midst of an immensely emotional situation, and the tweet was an avenue for feelings to be directed towards. A lot of this I believe is partly due to Skip’s reputation for being a contrarian.",
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"body": "I guess an apt example would be if you just found out at work a coworker has died. And your boss goes I’m sorry to hear that. Okay now we have to figure out who’s covering her work. Technically he’s correct you guys do, but everyone would be understandably pissed.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "ELI5: aren’t serious injuries fairly common in pro football? Why is this such a big deal?",
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"body": "It isn't. But everyone is acting like it is because most Americans are afraid of death.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "Kaponeo360",
"body": "A simple \"Prayers for Demar Hamlin\" or \"Praying for Hamlin🙏🏾\" would've sufficed. Sometimes it's best to read the room and if you can't do that just stay quiet.",
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"body": "He did say that in the tweet prior. As I outlined in my original post.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "I agree, I don't think he said anything wrong. He could have, however, chosen his words more carefully. Especially since he is Skip Bayless. People seem to find reasons to hate on the dude, I personally think he can be fun to listen to (though not always). Anyway, IMO, He was addressing an elephant in the room (that the NFL had a huge dilemma, with playoff implications, to get figured out). But he should have made clear that it was tomorrow's elephant to be addressed, rather than leaving his words open to interpretation that he think the game should be immediately resumed. I think his intentions were for the former, not the latter.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "So many people here responding that he should have read the room or been more situationally aware. Maybe I’m cynical, but I don’t think those people really understand Skip Bayless.\n\nI think Skip Bayless tweeted that because he knew that it would be controversial and that he would be reprimanded, but that he is actually right and said only true things. Maybe the backlash was worse than he thought but it feels like people here aren’t catching that this man makes a living off of being “controversial.”",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "I agree with you. That being said, this is how the masses work when you’re spitting out takes during times of high emotion. \n\nHis tweet would have been interpreted COMPLETELY differently if he removes two words: “but how?” Those two words give readers the implication that he doesn’t want the game postponed. \n\nReread: “No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game. This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome … which suddenly seems so irrelevant.”",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Tweet tweet chirp chirp. Y'all are suckas.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "When taken literally, I agree with you. That said, the last part of being irrelevant seemed akin to a backhanded compliment to me. JMO (Obviously not a compliment, but the add on after the fact) like he read kt, realized it was insensitive, but still wanted to post it, so added in the last bit.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "The feeling of the players on the field when something happens that major is completely different after such an insistent. I’ve finished a basketball game after what appeared to be a devastating injury for a player and let me tell you it’s really a dream state. Everything seems so minuscule and pointless, going through the motions while pondering life. It’s a wild head space to be in. I can’t imagine it being on a professional level, not from a play or anything just someone dropping, just like that. \nSeems like there should be a way to get it sorted out one way or another. I don’t give two shits about whoever this talking head is.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Yes he was correct, but some things are more important and take precedence",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "LumpyExamination1077",
"body": "if the healthcare workers who saved him are expected to work another case immediately why should football players not continue the game? meanwhile they're making millions a year vs the $20 an hour the healthcare workers are making",
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"body": "That's a really good point.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Like everyone said it was just poor timing and insensitive. Nothing he said was wrong. \n\nThat would be like you just see your coworker just get run over by a car and you go immediately go that’s terrible. we’ll have to find someone to cover her work. Technically yeah you do but at that moment that wasn’t the time or place.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"author": "DirtyRead1337",
"body": "That’s his job. He and all the other sportscasters/writers are there to talk about the game. Nobody is flipping through the channels to hear Woody Paige’s slightly different worded sentiment then that of Ted Lietner’s obligatory all though sincere thoughts and prayers. It’s almost gratuitous. \n If something like this befell our President (now or past or in the future) Anderson Coopers job is to give us the news on who and what is or might happen relating to the country interests. This is no different. Obviously you feel for the player his teammates all the players and family. Acknowledge it and do your job. No one is offended. The possibility of offense is all there is. We are either going to allow this absurd behavior or we are going to stop allowing it. Offense is only taken it can’t be given.",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "His tweet lacks humanity, empathy or compassion which it not illegal not to have. \n\nIt's a shitty thing to think about playing on in the moment someone has died and been resuscitated (not hurt -- that happens plenty)\n\nIs the text \"wrong\"? Not really, but sure wasn't right and continues support the idea that player safety is the last thing on everyone's mind when it comes to NFL",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Nothing wrong with skips tweet, people are just addicted to being outraged now. Either by ignorance or lack of understanding they misinterpreted or just didn't fully read the tweet. Either way the outrage has been more disgusting than the tweet itself",
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"body": "To start, I despise Skip Bayless as a sports commentator and think he's an egotistical jerk and isn't that bright when it comes to most sports. I further find the format of his show unwatchable.\n\nThat said, I think he is being treated unfairly here.\n\nThe full text of the tweet was:\n\n>No doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game - but how? This late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular-season outcome ... which suddenly seems so irrelevant.\n\nFirst, he was correct, the NFL was considering postponing the rest of the game.\n\nHe was also correct that the game result is important to the playoff slots of multiple teams (at least 4) and thus the income potential of several hundred players, coaches, and staff.\n\nHe is correct that there is no time left in the season to reschedule the game without some herculean changes -- the Superbowl planning takes nearly a year to pull off as an event, so moving it is very non-trivial.\n\nLastly, he's right, all of the above considerations did seem irrelevant. And still do.\n\nNothing he said is disrespectful of Hamlin or his family, indeed, in noting that all of the true content seems irrelevant in face of the medical emergency this one person was enduring, it's explicitly respectful.\n\nNothing he said is untrue.\n\nFurther, his comment in context came after:\n\nA tweet noting that he didn't know what happened to Hamlin and that the players on both teams were really upset. CPR was administered. And that he was praying for Hamlin and his family. \n\nA tweet noting that he had never seen a more horrific injury and that the players were visibly upset.\n\nThere is absolutely nothing about his tweet that deserves the reaction it received. People are manufacturing offense. CMV.",
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"body": "Right? I have two issues with this whole fiasco\n\n1. Am i not allowed to care about the NFL playoffs anymore because something tragic happened? \n\n2. As skip said, it wasn’t relatively relevant at the moment because the main focus was demar’s health but at the same time, people have stakes in these games. Are they not allowed to care about how the games cancellation might affect them? In 99% of fantasy leagues this was the championship week. \n\nI’m not even a “hive mind wokeism is bad” kind of person but Jesus Christ. Not everybody had to think the exact same way all the time. People are acting like skip was saying “the show must go on”. He asked a legitimate question",
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