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Why oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?"
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170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students"
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Because they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven."
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Fucking lmao
"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people," Rep. Foxx said in her statement.
How in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway."
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Look at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people."
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All of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards"
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I bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans.
Society will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?
*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing."
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Democrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP."
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Heard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes"
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Republicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years.
Seriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?"
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More hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?"
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Did I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?"
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They literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are."
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Hell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers."
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Well of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old."
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Yeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house."
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I love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope."
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We all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?"
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Publish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust"
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Surprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\""
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Everyone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed"
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Gotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes."
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They are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans."
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"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us." - Literally every Republican.
Idiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth."
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Why is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass."
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student loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups
Gee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked."
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That is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔"
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Fuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become."
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Now I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven...."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?"
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The corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks"
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“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”"
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"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people," she said in her statement.
Foxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked "the people" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations."
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My Fellow Americans
We the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸
For to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy
In order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.
🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms
We the People need to provide for its citizens first
Cut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy
Repeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected
Higher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause
Please stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy
Stop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending
We the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped"
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So can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly "i am not going to let young people have an easier life"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?"
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Abuse of the "Hero's Act"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money "lost" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans."
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Rep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!"
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The fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people."
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Sure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic"
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Oxford definition.
par·a·site
/ˈperəˌsīt/
noun
1.
an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
Sums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit..
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN"
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Just call students loans Ppp loans and republicans won’t bat an eye
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN",
">\n\nOxford definition.\npar·a·site\n/ˈperəˌsīt/\nnoun\n1.\nan organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.\nSums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit.."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN",
">\n\nOxford definition.\npar·a·site\n/ˈperəˌsīt/\nnoun\n1.\nan organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.\nSums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit..",
">\n\nJust call students loans Ppp loans and republicans won’t bat an eye"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN",
">\n\nOxford definition.\npar·a·site\n/ˈperəˌsīt/\nnoun\n1.\nan organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.\nSums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit..",
">\n\nJust call students loans Ppp loans and republicans won’t bat an eye",
">\n\nJust call it a tax cut."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN",
">\n\nOxford definition.\npar·a·site\n/ˈperəˌsīt/\nnoun\n1.\nan organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.\nSums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit..",
">\n\nJust call students loans Ppp loans and republicans won’t bat an eye",
">\n\nJust call it a tax cut.",
">\n\nRepublicans doing everything they can to oppose every single popular program in America just to appeal to a base that makes up about 6% of the country"
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Jesus Christ just look at these rotting corpses. Someone that old shouldn’t be making the decisions for the rest of the country.
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN",
">\n\nOxford definition.\npar·a·site\n/ˈperəˌsīt/\nnoun\n1.\nan organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.\nSums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit..",
">\n\nJust call students loans Ppp loans and republicans won’t bat an eye",
">\n\nJust call it a tax cut.",
">\n\nRepublicans doing everything they can to oppose every single popular program in America just to appeal to a base that makes up about 6% of the country",
">\n\nThe lawmaker pictured probably only spent 27 cents on college"
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN",
">\n\nOxford definition.\npar·a·site\n/ˈperəˌsīt/\nnoun\n1.\nan organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.\nSums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit..",
">\n\nJust call students loans Ppp loans and republicans won’t bat an eye",
">\n\nJust call it a tax cut.",
">\n\nRepublicans doing everything they can to oppose every single popular program in America just to appeal to a base that makes up about 6% of the country",
">\n\nThe lawmaker pictured probably only spent 27 cents on college",
">\n\nJesus Christ just look at these rotting corpses. Someone that old shouldn’t be making the decisions for the rest of the country."
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"Republicans would be against a cure for cancer if a liberal discovered it.",
">\n\nCure for cancer would be unfair to the pharmaceutical companies who provide cancer treatment, and think of the hospitals!",
">\n\nIf we cure the problem, think about all the companies that benefit off the problem!? They worked so hard exploiting the vulnerable, don't they deserve a 3rd home!?",
">\n\n“Well you should have that about that before you became peasants!”",
">\n\nIt's you're fault for not being born privileged!",
">\n\nCancel the forgiveness of every single One of their PPP Loans, since a subscription president could do the same to the student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nPPP loan Small town drama: Yea old guy in my town bought/ sold old cars corvettes, square body fords/ chevys. He also did some mechanic work for the townspeople. He had 3 employees: him, his wife/ secretary, one mechanic. He got the MAX he could (I don’t remember the $ amount).\nAll the sudden he has a fresh new lot of cars/trucks being worked on, painted, on sale/ display. Within a year He sells all of his fresh new lot. Sells the business because he is making so much $$ his books look amazing. 3-6 months after the sale he moves 1/4 mile up the road and opens up a new shop. Effectively starving the mechanic shop that bought the business. Old guy got the loan forgiven last I looked.\nBut I can’t get 5-10k on a loan I have been paying on for 5 years. “But it got you a higher paying job” yes from $16->20…. However, now that the company is desperate my work is hiring high schoolers in at my rate of pay…. Rant over",
">\n\nFun-er fact, it you report PPP fraud and the money is recouped you yourself get 15%. \nWho fucking knows if any of the scam PPP claimers (I mean, more than all the rest of them) have actually gotten in trouble, but it's worth dropping a dime anyway.",
">\n\nWho the fuck we drop a dime to though?",
">\n\nShame there were so many bad actors trying to rip the government off.\nFor what it's worth my wife recieved a small PPP loan for her brick and mortar retail shop. It went straight to keeping staff on payroll even when the shop was closed due to COVID.",
">\n\n\"Our children deserve the right to drown in debt just like we didn't\" is a strange hill to die on.",
">\n\nEspecially when a lot of the people that say things like that didn't even have to drown in debt. College/Uni was much more affordable decades ago when they attended and, dependent on the school, could be completely covered with a minimum wage job with money to spare.",
">\n\nThat's why they said \"just like we didn't\"",
">\n\nAh. I misread the \"didn't\" as \"did\".",
">\n\nNo worries, and sorry I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Just figured you read it too quickly!",
">\n\nNo problem at all. Thanks for pointing it out.",
">\n\nWe can’t be helping citizens. - that’s against the rules according to GOP",
">\n\nThat part about many young recruits being so out of shape they can’t even run and that they don’t have the proper bone density is wild",
">\n\nMaybe they shouldn’t have ducked up society so much by enticing people to eat vitamin deficient food and enabling acute stressors that make them want to escape through eating or drugs. Maybe all of this is a byproduct of the super shitty corpo-capitalist world they’ve created through greed and exploitation. The whole system is feeding back on itself.",
">\n\nThe original school lunch program was heavily/nationally expanded by warhawks due to poor quality military recruits after WWII. They found that if students got at least a decent quality lunch that when they became eligible to get drafted/join the military they'd be more likely to pass physicals and be less intellectually deficient. Who knew that having a good diet promotes healthy brain development AND fosters good learning when you don't have to be distracted by your stomach rumbling so hard it's causing a fuckin earthquake.",
">\n\nPart of me hopes they succeed in shooting it down and Biden just says \"fuck it\" and keeps extending the payment pause indefinitely. He could keep that up for the rest of his Presidency, which means if he wins reelection, the next President will have to decide whether to reinstate payments in 2029.\nWho wants to be the asshole who tells Americans \"OK, time to start paying your loans again!\" after 9 years?",
">\n\nThis is what I’ve been hoping for. If we can stretch the non-payment period to 2024, we enter an election year where no one will bring up the student loan topic unless they want an automatic loss. Then we’re set til at least early 2025 (when a new President may be inaugurated if biden loses or chooses not to run again), and even then biden or especially anyone new will not want to rock the boat with student loans in order to keep their approval ratings up. So if we can get this to go til 2024, we’re probably set til 2026, easy.",
">\n\nIsn’t the law that gives Biden the authority based on emergency powers? And isnt Biden dropping the emergency? This won’t come to pass, unfortunately",
">\n\nNah, they can extend it as long as they want. The emergency powers come in to play with the cancellation of student debt.",
">\n\nIf the issue that's holding this up is that it's \"selective\", why not just wipe it all the day before the emergency powers end? That should kill the only real defence the other side had against it as far as the courts go.",
">\n\nThe issue is congress normally has complete control over spending amounts ( power of the purse) but the president can use some amount of the funding from executive departments to fund stuff usually needing to cut budgets to do so. Emergency powers give some new flexibility to spend money for the executive, but that’s the part that’s being challenged.",
">\n\nhey everyone in every state who has a student loan: these are the people who are actively trying to make your day to day life more difficult. vote accordingly.",
">\n\nthis keep note of every name and constantly blast it on the airwaves on voting season",
">\n\nChrist, what assholes.",
">\n\nWe’re surrounded by assholes.",
">\n\nThe problem is, evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.",
">\n\nI don’t agree with you there, the light is far smarter and more capable. Darkness just knows no bounds. \nThey’ve reached their current zenith though and are putting up a fight but the good guys are just getting warmed up.",
">\n\nThey were quoting Spaceballs, which you appeared to also be quoting",
">\n\nDamn it. It went over my head.",
">\n\nIt went over my helmet. FTFY",
">\n\n…more to the side…",
">\n\nAsshole covers balls...",
">\n\nChrist. I finally get a break in life, only to be dragged back down by these ghouls.",
">\n\nThat’s exactly how I feel",
">\n\nIf it helps regular everyday citizens, they're going to fight it.",
">\n\nEspecially if the average citizen is trying to educate themselves. 🤔",
">\n\nAnd they use this education to get better jobs which ends up with them paying more in taxes and raising children in more stable environments which means those children are also likely to become taxpayers rather than prisoners.",
">\n\nMake people pay back the PPP loan at the same interest rates we pay back student loans.\nMTG 180k at a 30 year payback rate at 6% would be 1400 a month. 500 in principle and 900 in interest.",
">\n\nThey always want people to be just as miserable as they are.",
">\n\nThat’s a hat I have come to realize. All their money and all their power and they are just miserable assholes.",
">\n\nBecause it’s never ever enough.",
">\n\nNope their only hope is for death. Seriously.",
">\n\nGod, fuck them all, fuck every last one of these greedy hateful fucks it is just so exhausting seeing them attack anything that is helpful and decent every single hour of every single day. It is so exhausting.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is the only one that matters, and they're going to saying no anyway. But now everyone who wants the forgiveness can blame the Republican Party as a whole, and those who hate it can vote for the Republican party as a whole",
">\n\nI wouldn't jump to conclusions on what the SC will conclude on this; because the precedent that it can set, this will actually need to be considered and worded very carefully if a \"no\" is the SC decision.\nEdit: words and stuff, it's half past wine time, leave me alone",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court is and has been off the rails for a while now, they have no problem inventing precedent whole cloth from nothing and legislating from the bench, the court has been packed with political hacks whose first loyalty is to the Party before literally anything else.\nPrecedent, existing law, justice, basic decency... mean less than nothing to this court, they have a once in a generation grip on power and they're going to exploit it for all it's worth.\nExpecting Republicans to do the right thing is beyond foolish.",
">\n\nI think the one reason this might go the other way is that this isn't a permanent solution to the problem and would only take money away from the government, not private institutions. Long run this allows the status quo to go on rather than education reform. Plus, if this doesn't go through it gives Biden and Democrats a huge platform to run on whereas Republicans can sneer at the Supreme Court decision all they want but not have to deal with people voting for very clear monetary incentives.",
">\n\n\nwould only take money away from the government, not private institutions\n\nOne of GOPig arguments against it is that it does take money from private business by harming loan service companies like Ascendium and the much hated Navient. Some people might lose their jobs calling broke people and harassing /threatening them for payments.",
">\n\nBut they're not suing. Nor is Mohela. States cannot sue on behalf of a private company like Missouri is trying to do for Mohela. Missouri isn't being harmed because it turns out Mohela hasn't funded the states education grants in nearly two decades anyways. So, they don't have standing.\nAlso, the two shitfucks suing cuz they didn't get the full $20K also dont have standing. Citizens don't get to choose what taxpayer money is spent on. Allowing that suit means I can sue to have the military budget cut.",
">\n\n\nOne hundred and twenty-eight House Republicans and nearly all Republican senators on Friday filed amicus briefs with the Supreme Court opposing the Biden administration's federal student debt cancellation plan, which has been halted as tens of millions of Americans await the justices' ruling on its legality.\n\nWas really hoping that somewhere within the article would be a mention as to how many of those Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven... sadly the author missed that easy layup.",
">\n\nI've seen so many right wingers say \"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" Then, why were they called loans to begin with?",
">\n\n\n\"Those PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven!\" \n\nI mean, they were absolutely meant to be forgiven from the start. It was built into the original legislation and the whole point.\nThey were structured as loans because they felt that was the easiest way to deploy it quickly (have banks issue loans that the government guarantees/pays off if criteria met).",
">\n\nWhy would anyone ever vote for any Republican?",
">\n\nFox news, Facebook, and other conservative media platforms. Fox news tells them what to think, Facebook posts from friends reinforce the ideas.",
">\n\nIt baffles me how much people will believe from some random asshole on social media. They watch a ridiculous video full of misinformation and will believe every word of it. I know first hand because my dad is one of them. It’s disgusting how much harm social media has done to our society.",
">\n\nIt’s not social media, it’s conservative bullshit that did this.\nSocial media was also used to short stocks and do the GameStop thing, social media fucked over a bunch of trump rallies, and has spread the word about a lot of fucked up shit conservatives are doing or trying to do.\nSocial media has spread news and galvanized gen z against the Republican agenda, granted some of gen z was radicalized by people like Andrew Tate",
">\n\n\"If you can't afford it, the done go to college.\" Also, \"If you didn't want to work for minimum wage then you should've gone to college\".",
">\n\nAnd even with a college degree it doesn't mean you'll be getting paid much better either",
">\n\nNot true. For the vast majority of degree holders, they get paid much better than those without a degree.",
">\n\nRepublicans just suck and the people who vote for them are worse.",
">\n\nWhere were these lawmakers when over 400B in PPP loans were blindly forgiven?",
">\n\nIt’s because a majority of them turds got PPP Loans. Then voted to forgive the PPP Loans.",
">\n\nHypocrites and Pharisees they are",
">\n\nWhy, oh why won’t young people vote for us?!",
">\n\nYeah with how the GOP are doing their is a 90% of them dooming themselves in the future when all the boomers die out and the only ones that are willing to vote for them are crazies because no one else trusts them.",
">\n\nNothing brings Republicans together like the idea of trying to make people's lives harder.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We have a young voter problem! What can we do to reach the younger generation???\"\nAlso Republicans: Do literally anything and everything to piss young people off.",
">\n\nRepublicans are pure, unadulterated evil.",
">\n\nThese are the same guys giving tax cuts to the rich, they are pure evil.",
">\n\nHow to lose a demographic in 10 days. So basically everyone with a college degree that has a loan will have a reason to not vote for republicans - if they already didn’t. So get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.",
">\n\n\nSo get ready for republicans to start banning people with degrees from voting.\n\nGet ready for republicans to start banning people with student loans from voting. Once you've paid back your debt to society you can get your rights back.",
">\n\nDeliciously evil",
">\n\nAnd all of them had PPP loans forgiven?",
">\n\nThese people have no souls.",
">\n\nThey really are just ghouls. Nasty, useless and a drain on everyone else. Today’s GOP is a toxic mess beyond salvation.\nSome real conservatives that live in the real world need to form a new party and start over. We do need two coherent parties for our system to work.",
">\n\nAh yes Virginia Foxx, when she went to school minimum wage was $.05 and college cost a shekel....fucking out of touch fossil. Republicans/Conservatives are the rancid taint sweat of politics.",
">\n\nThis is hyperbole, but Mitch McConnel could genuinely pay his entire undergrad college tuition working 8 hours a week through the year at minimum wage. Minimum wage was 1 dollar, and a semester tuition for him was 200 dollars.",
">\n\nSeems the major issue then is why college costs so much now?",
">\n\nYes but also wages are not correlated with production any more. Output has skyrocketed yet wages are stagnant.",
">\n\nThey’re SO afraid of one side getting a “win” that helps people that they will try to kill it. They really need to learn how to America.",
">\n\nRepublicans care NOTHING about those who truly need help. They only care about the rich and their ugly greedy selves. They should rot in hell.",
">\n\nThey \"will\" rot in hell.",
">\n\nThe fundamental issue is unlike most developed nations, we charge ever increasing tuition at public colleges and universities. Forgiving loans is good but it is kicking the can down the road so the next set of kids can stack up more debt than they can handle.\nWe should ban federal financial aid for private and for profit programs as well. We should also ban private loans, which is where kids really get screwed over.\nFree college, cancel debt. We need both.",
">\n\nIt’s actually amazing to me at this point… republican policy is “ fuck everybody that isn’t filthy richl \nAnd regular ass working people vote for them…. Cause….Jesus? Or something? I literally don’t understand",
">\n\nAs a foreigner casually visiting the sub, I'm trying to understand the thought process of American individuals who votes for the GOP.",
">\n\nI don’t even have student loans and this aggravates me to no end. I wish I could afford college and my life and have time to work and support myself but I can’t. \nMake no mistake, they’re doing EVERYTHING they can to make our lives harder. It is SO HARD.. I worked myself too hard to the point where I got an auto immune disease. They fired me and I lost my healthcare so I couldn’t get better. I couldn’t afford it! \nIt got worse and worse and now I’m handicapped. Fucking FML.",
">\n\ntranslation: 171 Republican lawmakers join effort to protect banking sector profits.",
">\n\n\nprotect banking sector profits\n\n93% of student loans are held by the federal government... And among the 7% that aren't, almost all of them are held by companies that literally only provide student loans, no other services, including banking, IE: Sallie Mae.",
">\n\nSometimes I wish there was a hell so at least I'd sleep knowing that republikkkans are suffering there after they die",
">\n\nFuck these guys. Can’t let the poors have a small taste of the bailouts that the rich get. I’m tired of the wealthy and business owners being seen as Gods in this country. Most aren’t even that smart and lucked or nepo’ed their way into wealth or running a business.",
">\n\nFuck these people.",
">\n\n. . . and not in a good way.",
">\n\nJust had mine fairly recently forgiven by PSLF.\nI damned well hope they forgive everyone.",
">\n\nDude I’m having a hell of a time with PSLF. Seems so slam dunk. Employed 15y for govt. loan payments the whole time, never late. It’s been 5 months…",
">\n\nVote. Them. Out.",
">\n\nAn educated population is dangerous for the Republicans.",
">\n\nRepublicans: \"We want you... to suffer.\"",
">\n\nThe PPE loan program was biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the U.S. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thanks Trump. He helped out his people (the rich) but screwed his base as they are too poor to qualify for PPE except for the big farmers who are subsidized anyway. Most of his rural voters did not go to college and resent student loan relief. The rich want us to be in debt so we have no choice to work for them. Same reason they don’t want universal healthcare. All of that causes us to have to stay working in undesirable situations. I’m so sick of the US with its greedy spiteful people. And they wonder why we have so many suicides. They call them opiate overdoses and I can tell you a lot are not accidental. People have no hope left.",
">\n\nUnited on punching down on the citizens they “serve”.",
">\n\nthey BARELY won the house and have been complaining about raising the voting age because younger folks aren't voting republican. there's also a very clear trend that millenials aren't shifting to the right as they get older. this would basically cement lack of support from anyone under50 for almost all elections moving forward.\nif this goes through and with the mutual political massacre that trump vs desantis will be in 2024, i'm kind of hoping that the republican party implodes and resets.",
">\n\nI’m so fucked.",
">\n\nSCUMBAGS. \nPeople are dumb enough to believe that this somehow takes from them or “mY tAxEs” but ignore the MAJORITY that’s spent on military, and corporate welfare.",
">\n\nThey should all be required to propose a realistic plan for eliminating the student debt crisis, then.",
">\n\nRepublicans are just about the most miserable people in the world.",
">\n\nThe GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about Americans. As an outsider it's really creepy to watch.",
">\n\nRepublicans. Are. Evil.",
">\n\nAbsolute scummy and most of them older then dirt",
">\n\nIf it’s something Democrats want then Republicans will fight it tooth and nail no matter what.",
">\n\nThe Republican way: fuck you, i got mine",
">\n\nthe probleme is not the loan anyway, the problem is you need a loan to go to university in the first place. it should be affordable. (2000 dollars a year max)",
">\n\nHow does the government not have the power to forgive loans that it has the power to give you in the first place? How does that make any fucking sense? If the goddamn government doesn't have control over loans it oversees and allows, what does? What is the authority over these loans that is higher than the government that offered them in the first place?",
">\n\nRepublicans really go above and beyond to make sure people don’t get any help from the government.",
">\n\nHell isn’t hot enough for these people.",
">\n\nFine then. Everyone has to pay back their PPP loans too then. That's fair right? They took out a loan, they should pay it back.",
">\n\n171 seditious Republican millionaires try to prevent the poor from catching a break. Fixed that headline for ya!",
">\n\nWell of course. There are struggling oil companies and big pharma companies that need our help.",
">\n\nThey were all totally ok with signing the tax handout bill giving more than a trillion to the top 1% but they don’t want those struggling with school loans to have anything",
">\n\nI saw someone say Biden can keep it cancelled and dare the next Republican president to reinstate it",
">\n\nCan we tie this to business bail outs.",
">\n\nThe fact that they're A-OK taking the political risk of snubbing young people shows just how little fear they have of us as a voting bloc.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Foxx said in her statement.\nWhere the actual F does she get the idea that the will of the majority of the American People is against loan forgiveness? \nIt's strikingly clearer every news cycle that these fucks don't consider us 90% as people.",
">\n\ni doN’t vOtE cuz BotH parTIez are tHE sAmE.",
">\n\nfools. this would be amazing for stimulating the economy they love so much, this may come as a surprise but people living on canned beans and ramen don't spend money at your stores, muppets",
">\n\nAlso the Republicans, \"Why won't young people vote for us?!!\"",
">\n\nLook at that old hag. There were two universities in America when she went to school. Just step in the box already you’re done",
">\n\n\"Join the effort\"??? They ARE the effort. \nJust another example of headline writer trying to make it look like what Republicans do is bipartisan.",
">\n\nwhite ppl and white conservative boomers with 90 trillion in wealth, \"don't let the millennials off the hook, let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and repay - we paid penny's on the dollar for our education\" as we pay for social security checks. Unbelievable ole white conservatives.",
">\n\nThis is just these scumbags being cruel and petty Also hypocrites,sad average hardworking people struggling to get by have to suffer by these rich cockroaches in politics and their billionaire donors,while they and their rich buddies make out like bandits",
">\n\nFucking scum.",
">\n\nThe pro life party once again stomping on lives",
">\n\nI know well over 50 people, many of whom are Conservative, who applied for student loan forgiveness, received their approval letter, and are now watching $20,000 turn to ashes. All because of the Conservative lobbying groups, courts, and now the Congress that they supported for years.\nI do not relish in the misfortune of others, let alone family and friends. However, if there was ever a time to reassess who you vote for and why, now is as good a time as any. They don’t want to help you. They don’t want to make America better. They fill your heads with meaningless culture war nonsense to distract you from the systemic means in which they keep you indebted and chained to your job, as they ensure welfare for corporate America and the 1%.",
">\n\nThey will still vote Conservative until they die.",
">\n\nAnd it's not even that much forgiveness either, My friend is 40k in debt and he'd get 10k forgiven, and that's just basically covering how much it had grown since he took out the loan. everything is a joke.",
">\n\nI bet 95% of these asshats had their student debt relieved from them, or didn’t even need to worry about student debt at all cause of growing up with a silver spoon. Fuck them dude",
">\n\nHow about this, you pay back your loan….interest free.\nThat way you still cover your obligation on the loan.",
">\n\nIf they made it interest free people would support it. They refuse to even do that. Even after people have paid so much interest already.",
">\n\nThe GOP is full of hateful lunatics",
">\n\nThe need the population to be desperate so they can be exploited more easily.",
">\n\nI sometimes think republicans are as bad as dictators in other parts of the country. They give zero fucks about citizens of USA.",
">\n\nRepublicans Can you just give us one? \nSidebar: “Us” meaning the populous. And my school loans were paid off 10 years ago.",
">\n\nWow, You all just want to keep a huge portion of Americans in soul crushing debt that they have been conditioned to believe they have to take on in order to succeed. The overpriced education system is a machine to feed Fannie Mae's insatiable appetite. There is no reason that a person has to take on a lifetime of debt just so they can be a productive member of society only to find that their expensive education doesn't even get them an unpaid internship and they end up working at McDonald's. Sounds like a good plan to keep America at the top.",
">\n\nCan we get some government officials that don't look and function like a ballsack with glaucoma, please? Is that really too much to ask?",
">\n\nWhat is it going to matter anyway? When the time comes for the bill to be due, there is going to be a huge bubble pop because people have gotten used to paying for things without worrying about Federal Loans. \nYou can delay, you can forgive, or you can start collecting, but any of these choices will lead to a proverbial cliff. The difference is in the height of each cliff.",
">\n\nThe cost of education has wildly exceeded the increase in wages over time, trapping students in a spiral of debt. The only people who aren't caught in this are the children of the rich.",
">\n\nMeanwhile handing tax breaks to corporations like candy on Halloween",
">\n\nGet recked",
">\n\nAmerica's Elite First! Vote GOP! Keep the peasants ignorant!",
">\n\nSuch a win-win for the Dems! It either goes thru and a promise is kept. Or they block it and piss the younger generations off and more of them vote blue.",
">\n\nThere’s a high risk of default according to the Department of Education. In an economy that’s just barely functioning, having a large amount of people default is going to hurt the economy more than just forgiving the loans.",
">\n\nFuck every last one of these fucking maggots",
">\n\nAs if they have not been awful enough with the antisemitism and misogyny they have to push the class war as well. Wonderful. I hope republicans are happy they are effectively shitting on the majority with their crusade for the rich religious right.",
">\n\n“Your honor, it makes him look good and we can’t have that so I implore you to throw out this act of kindness to the peasants who weren’t smart enough to be born by generationally wealthy parents. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind!”",
">\n\nrepublicans are as rich as the money they stole",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the Grand Obstructionist Party",
">\n\nHow many of these assholes took PPE loans? Traded stocks using insider knowledge?",
">\n\nFuck this, I'm voting democrat from here on.",
">\n\nThey all can fuck right off.",
">\n\nI bet that guy pictured just finished paying off his loans.",
">\n\nThat's... A woman",
">\n\n\"both sides\" yall!",
">\n\nRepublicans hate working Americans",
">\n\nEveryone of these Republicans would bend over backwards to give millionaires and billionaires tax cuts equaling the cost of the student loan bailout.",
">\n\nRepublicans know that bail outs are only for reckless giant corporations who will only use it for stock buybacks and executive bonuses, not every day people trying to pay for food and mortgages",
">\n\nWtf Conservative even conserve lol?",
">\n\nman, fuck them",
">\n\nayo, these people are such fuckin haters. can’t let poor people have anything. professional haters.",
">\n\nk, then they don't need doctors, veterinarians, therapists, teachers, the barista studying day and night that serves them coffee. If they aren't going to help students, then they don't need help when they ask for it.",
">\n\nIt really seems nowadays every time I read anything about the Republicans, all I hear is \"stop being nice to people and give us money.\"",
">\n\nRents: Rising\nGroceries: Rising\nTransportation: Rising\nEducation: Rising\nMedical Care: Rising\nWages: Stagnant\n\"Why are young people killing all these businesses by refusing to spend their discretionary income on [industry]? I guess we'll never know, but how dare they try to weasel out of any on the debt we pushed on them to become more productive workers in the economy!\"",
">\n\nListen it’s simple. Reduce the loans owed compared to how much someone is reasonably able to make doing the profession they went to school to learn for. Remove the fees and interest accrued. Take that number and save it. Then look at tax records and see how much money was paid on the loans, how much income they made minus the cost of living. If add it all together (including negative numbers). Take this number and subtract it from the previous number and that is how much money is owed by the student and forgiven. Students don’t get money back, but they can have it all forgiven if the math adds up.",
">\n\nStop helping those who need it goddamn it! \nSave that money for the wealthy.",
">\n\nTrash people.",
">\n\nof course they did.",
">\n\nTell me that voting isn't important.",
">\n\nHow many of them got free college education?",
">\n\nI know someone who misclassified his employees for years until ppp then threw everyone onto W-2 in order to apply for it. If course those employees could no longer apply for ppp themselves because now they weren’t 1099s. They shouldn’t have been 1099s anyway. No effort to reimburse them for the social security they hadn’t been paying for years. People have no principles\nBut this thing, student loans and SS too - how do they keep getting re-elected? They sure have a lot of faith in voter suppression and they are going to need a lot of it",
">\n\nPunish the students, and let the wealthy college elites gouge them.\n-The GOP",
">\n\nThis should be a TOP talking point for Democrats in 2024. Young people have terrible voter turnout. Go tell them we literally were going to forgive your debt but there's an entire party committed to denying that for you while they forgive millions in their own businesses. Drill that shit home and get young people to the polls.",
">\n\nImagine being republican with student loan debt and looking at those who represent you destroy your dream of student loan forgiveness",
">\n\nMan conservatives really have a hard on for college loans",
">\n\nThis is why we can't have nice things.",
">\n\nI know this is available online (I’ve checked businesses, it’s easy). The Biden administration should publish a list of these opponents and their forgiven PPP loans - big and bold. I’ll bet at least half if them took loans that were forgiven. Publish the list and also remind people they can report suspected fraud and claim a reward. Make all these bastards scramble to defend themselves.",
">\n\nGod I wish Democrats would publicly criticize Republicans the same way. I would take out television ads, billboards and online pointing out how the right doesn’t want to help the common man or woman. Scream it from the rooftops over and over. Name them , show their voting records all the way through the 2024 elections.",
">\n\nBecause those sociopaths need debt slaves for their corrupt system to work.",
">\n\nI do hope that those suffering under student loans remember this when it comes time to vote. \nvote.org",
">\n\nWhy they gotta be so mean and greedy? I swear these people lack basic human empathy",
">\n\nOf course the Republicans want to stop it. Only rich people get perks!",
">\n\nWhen will americans start to look at these politicians investments and realize they vote based on making and not losing money.",
">\n\nThis is what it looks like to govern out of spite. They endlessly assist the wealthy through tax breaks and subsidies but fuck over middle America.",
">\n\nThen forget me paying taxes (not really, I will still pay those). In all seriousness what are our options at this point aside from revolting?\nAlso many of these haven't been paid on at this point, I don't see them really suffering any bit. Just saying.",
">\n\nI didn't vote for you, so I don't care. If you are not going to grant forgiveness onto student loans, then do the same for PPP loans that by law were not used for its intended purpose: payroll. But I'm sure quite a few of these same lawmakers would suddenly owe a shit ton of money...",
">\n\nShe went to school for $1.25",
">\n\nAnyone voting Republican is a fucking idiot.",
">\n\nAll of these people who oppose the program should be forced to repay their forgiven ppp loans, then. The party of personal responsibility should be 100% behind it, right?9",
">\n\nIt could be anything. Republicans are just about stopping anything proposed by the Democrats … it’s just what they do.\nThere’s no reason… just blind opposition to anything that might be good for people.",
">\n\nOligarch twats.",
">\n\nThen we want the PPP shit paid back.",
">\n\nWhy oh why aren’t we doing better with millennials and zoomers?",
">\n\nThat old bag is always railing against anything that helps students",
">\n\n170 of whom got their covid loans forgiven.",
">\n\nBecause they know that the vast majority of the people that they will be fucking, did not/would not vote for them anyway.",
">\n\nFucking lmao\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" Rep. Foxx said in her statement.\nHow in the world is it against the will of the people for Biden to cancel student debt when a majority of Americans want him to do it. His plan is literally the definition of enacting the will of the people.",
">\n\nLook at these old fuckers clamping down. What a bunch of hatred filled fuckers ruininf the next generation. Bastards",
">\n\nAll of them should have to return that PPP money they they should never have gotten anyway",
">\n\nI bet each and every one of those 171 people either went to college for about $500 or had everything paid through a trust fund. They've never actually had to work for anything in their lives but they will take every opportunity to moan about how they never received help or it isn't fair to the people that paid their loans. \nSociety will never get better if you aim for just keeping the status quo. If they aren't actually trying to make the next generations lives better then what the fuck are they doing*?\n*rhetorical question, we all know what they're doing.",
">\n\nI don’t want the govt to pay off my debt I just want reasonable interest rates",
">\n\nDemocrats should draft a bill forcing all politicians repay PPP loans. Then we'll see what's up.",
">\n\nSome Republicans are into unforgiveness.",
">\n\nMiserly SOBs",
">\n\nWhat the media should be asking is why Republicans hate America.",
">\n\nNaughty naughty",
">\n\nFolks, please make sure you do not vote for the GOP.",
">\n\nGOP - “Why won’t the youth vote for us???”",
">\n\nHeard a person I work with say. It's ridiculous that we should pay for other people's student loans. In the same breath say he is definitely taking advantage if it is approved. Just shook my head.",
">\n\nFucking assholes",
">\n\nA group of old decrepit corpses say NO to fresh warm blood filled humans from learning.",
">\n\nRepublicans will act shocked when no one is voting for them in 30 years. \nSeriously, do they not see how this will impact the future of their party?",
">\n\nThere a reason the younger generation aren’t getting more conservative as they age.",
">\n\nMore hate on Americans Let's give it to others outside of the country.. magapunks.",
">\n\nHow many Democratic lawyers are urging Biden to continue?",
">\n\nVirginia Fox needs to be put in a home.",
">\n\nDid I miss the reveal of the memo Biden has from the Dept of Education on this debt relief and whether they felt he had the power to do this or not?",
">\n\nWhat evil bastards they are.",
">\n\nThey literally look a thousand years old, it probably cost them pennies to attend their segregated universities. We need younger lawmakers.",
">\n\nHell, there were actually free state-funded colleges back then as well, at least in California. Reagan quickly did away with that when he became governor, and is a main reason why the system is built with big businesses winning.",
">\n\nWell of course this guy is. Money wasn’t even invented when he went to college. Money is only like 5,000 years old.",
">\n\nIf my loans were to disappear, I'm in the market for a new car or seriously considering buying a house.",
">\n\nYeah but that's bad for the economy because you aren't paying your debts, you don't deserve a house, please disregard the beneficiaries of PPP loans btw",
">\n\nI love the hubris. I hope they never need a doctor, or nurse, or driver, or security personnel, or housekeeper, or chef, or anyone really, who they are fighting to take up to $20,000 out of the pocket of. It’s one thing to feel like you are drowning and will never make it out of the water. It’s another to be thrown a life preserver then see someone trying to cut the rope.",
">\n\nThat guy looks like Death.",
">\n\nWe all know what will probably happen: the court will say its unconstitutional at which point Biden will extend it indefinitely. Then the next election it will be a talking point for Dems to say 'elect us to keep the extension going'.",
">\n\nWhy is it always people who look like the thumbnail of this article doing their hardest to fuck over the new generation?",
">\n\n~~Republican lawmakers~~ Corporate shills",
">\n\nPublish their names and the PPP loans they got that were forgiven.",
">\n\nremember that on voting day",
">\n\nWhat can they even do? Isn't it now just up to the Supreme court.",
">\n\n…why? Do they not like helping their constituents?",
">\n\nThat guy looks like a big pile of skin flakes and dust",
">\n\nWhen do you stop and ask yourself \"am I an evil sack of shit? Do I want to die an evil sack of shit?\"",
">\n\nSurprise surprise. The weazened old fucks are still trying to fuck over the youth.",
">\n\nEveryone who believes that loans shouldn't be forgiven because it's unfair should also be trying just as hard to stop cancer research because some people already struggled and beat it and everyone else needs to struggle instead of taking the easy way if an effective cure is developed",
">\n\nit will forever baffle me how people support this party",
">\n\nGotta admit, these Republicans don't care a damn thing for their public facing reputation or the reputation of any of their employers do they. Wish a million people would write each of them asking for an immediate action plan on how they intend to correct this.",
">\n\nAss hats",
">\n\nWho voted for these monsters?!",
">\n\nDude in the thumbnail looks dead",
">\n\nThis man looks so old he has to fight his wrinkles just to open his eyes.",
">\n\nThe GOP is fundamentally idiotic",
">\n\nThey are pretty consistent. If you’re not a corporation or super rich you don’t matter.",
">\n\nMaybe they should be working together on zero interest loans.",
">\n\nAbsolute fucking scum of the Earth.",
">\n\n\"You're not Billionaires, so fuck you, fuck you so hard, average Americans, especially the ones who are dumb enough to vote for us.\" - Literally every Republican.\nIdiots, Racists, or Billionaires vote Republican. Check your bank account to see which one you are.",
">\n\nWhy is The Republican Party so dead set against the average American getting help? Seen where they recently wanted to reduce the types of food someone getting SNAP benefits can get also?",
">\n\nThese old heads should be removed from office",
">\n\nAnd they don’t have an agenda to help any Americans! What else is new?",
">\n\nIf Biden makes it for rich people only it will pass.",
">\n\nYoung people, remember this and go vote",
">\n\n\nstudent loan bailout is a political gambit engineered by special interest groups\n\nGee I wonder if they could elaborate on the special interest groups that would benefit from this. As opposed to, you know, the special interest groups that benefit from it being blocked.",
">\n\nNot many conservatives chiming in on this thread…. 🤔",
">\n\nThat is because they all have paid back their college loans and do not need a reinforcing sounding board to comfort them in their misery.",
">\n\nFuck every citizen this helps, and the solid fiscal reasoning behind it, in order to stop Biden from doing something inherently good that might reflect positively on him. I really hate what republicans have become.",
">\n\nAnd each and every one of them will have a PPP loan or three forgiven....",
">\n\nNow I understand why young people are choosing Democrats over GOP. Why give young people any breaks when you can just keep enriching the overly wealthy instead?",
">\n\nStop giving republicans air time they are all selfish judgmental jerks",
">\n\nThe corporate tax cuts DWARF the student loan forgiveness.",
">\n\n“Boomers who went to college for $1,700, and were able to houses in their lifetime, don’t want you to have relief from the predatory loan programs they helped create.”",
">\n\nBecause student loan relief helps actual people, not corporations.",
">\n\n\"Congress is the only body with the authority to enact sweeping and fundamental changes of this nature, and it is ludicrous for President Biden to assume he can simply bypass the will of the American people,\" she said in her statement. \nFoxx just mad they arent the ones doing it so are trying to stop it cuz last I checked \"the people\" wanted this and are fairly pissed its being stopped",
">\n\nMy Fellow Americans \nWe the People need to address the elephant 🐘 in the United States of America 🇺🇸 \nFor to long reactive leadership from the principles and powers of self, steal, kill and destroy mentality put forth by Republicans has devastated and caused the current politicians, religious hypocrites and the greedy individualism that they use to create the division to put down any challenge to their hypocrisy \nIn order to reboot, restore, and rebuild our economic future, it will take a proactive effort by all Americans to unionize and defeat the principles and powers of greed and pure greed conducted by the few.\n🇺🇸 needs to always put the education of its citizens first, in order to continue our experiment and be able to defend our Democracy and Freedoms \nWe the People need to provide for its citizens first\nCut pay to civil servant leadership throughout our Democracy \nRepeal the tax exempt billionaire religious system and levy the 10 % tithe on churches and church leaders for the care and concern for others act that they have neglected \nHigher education is open to all citizens with a 4 year pay it forward clause\nPlease stop the republican party and leadership from stealing the wealth of our Democracy \nStop the republican party and leadership from causing the deaths of citizens to uphold their reactive, disruptive, and wasteful spending \nWe the People must stop the destruction of the principles and powers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights by the republican agenda.",
">\n\nSo can anyone give me an explanation about this that isnt blatantly \"i am not going to let young people have an easier life\"? Like... any reasoning at all that a good or even decent person could agree with?",
">\n\nWho the hell is that corpse up there?",
">\n\nAbuse of the \"Hero's Act\"? That's rich given the rampant fraud of the PPP loans and subsequent forgiveness. At least with student loan forgiveness for college tuition, the People know where the money went. It went to fund future first-generation doctors, nurses, social workers, artists, teachers, and trades. The money \"lost\" by the forgiveness of student loans is actually an investment in all of our futures. Post-secondary education pushes people to expand their experiences by exposure to ideas from a wider audience. I'm sure that's scary to provincial republicans.",
">\n\nIf you’re under 30/40 I have no idea why you would vote Republican. Literally no idea.",
">\n\nRep. Virginia Foxx is the name of the disgusting ghoul in the picture for anybody wondering?",
">\n\nNice lawmakers who make law for bankers not the people next",
">\n\nThey really hate us.",
">\n\nNot all hero’s wear capes !!!",
">\n\nI’ve never seen republicans more unified than when it comes to fucking over working people.",
">\n\nThe fact that a corpse is the pic. America is so gross. Old people have no place in politics.",
">\n\nSure cause education is the last thing America needs. Lmfao. USA is a joke and is a banana republic",
">\n\nGood for them…SOMEONE’S GOTTA KICK THE POORS WHILE THEY’RE DOWN",
">\n\nOxford definition.\npar·a·site\n/ˈperəˌsīt/\nnoun\n1.\nan organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.\nSums up these parasites perfectly.. they reap from the PPP and deny their host any benefit..",
">\n\nJust call students loans Ppp loans and republicans won’t bat an eye",
">\n\nJust call it a tax cut.",
">\n\nRepublicans doing everything they can to oppose every single popular program in America just to appeal to a base that makes up about 6% of the country",
">\n\nThe lawmaker pictured probably only spent 27 cents on college",
">\n\nJesus Christ just look at these rotting corpses. Someone that old shouldn’t be making the decisions for the rest of the country.",
">\n\nAnd theyre all senial old fucks"
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I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right.
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You can leave your saints behind. Cuz the saints don't dance, and if they don't dance, we'll they're no saints of mine.
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"I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right."
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It's the Satan Dance
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"I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right.",
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"I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right.",
">\n\nYou can leave your saints behind. Cuz the saints don't dance, and if they don't dance, we'll they're no saints of mine.",
">\n\nIt's the Satan Dance"
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This needs to be remixed and mashed with NIN Closer.
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"I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right.",
">\n\nYou can leave your saints behind. Cuz the saints don't dance, and if they don't dance, we'll they're no saints of mine.",
">\n\nIt's the Satan Dance",
">\n\ns s s s s s s s s a a a a a a a a t t t t t t t t a a a a a a a a a n n n n n n n"
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Cruz wants to fuck you like a demagogue...
Hoo hoo..
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"I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right.",
">\n\nYou can leave your saints behind. Cuz the saints don't dance, and if they don't dance, we'll they're no saints of mine.",
">\n\nIt's the Satan Dance",
">\n\ns s s s s s s s s a a a a a a a a t t t t t t t t a a a a a a a a a n n n n n n n",
">\n\nThis needs to be remixed and mashed with NIN Closer."
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He wants to regulate your insides.
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[
"I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right.",
">\n\nYou can leave your saints behind. Cuz the saints don't dance, and if they don't dance, we'll they're no saints of mine.",
">\n\nIt's the Satan Dance",
">\n\ns s s s s s s s s a a a a a a a a t t t t t t t t a a a a a a a a a n n n n n n n",
">\n\nThis needs to be remixed and mashed with NIN Closer.",
">\n\nCruz wants to fuck you like a demagogue...\nHoo hoo.."
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He wants to fuck you like an M&M!
His whole existence is flawed.
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"I can worship the devil if I want to. It's actually my first amendment right.",
">\n\nYou can leave your saints behind. Cuz the saints don't dance, and if they don't dance, we'll they're no saints of mine.",
">\n\nIt's the Satan Dance",
">\n\ns s s s s s s s s a a a a a a a a t t t t t t t t a a a a a a a a a n n n n n n n",
">\n\nThis needs to be remixed and mashed with NIN Closer.",
">\n\nCruz wants to fuck you like a demagogue...\nHoo hoo..",
">\n\nHe wants to regulate your insides."
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