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Responsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy."
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol."
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!"
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Next they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned."
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana"
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Well didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal."
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Good. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?"
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Do people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?
Since THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,
Or is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?
Or is it legal to smoke while driving ?
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns"
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So can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?"
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?",
">\n\nSo can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?"
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?",
">\n\nSo can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?",
">\n\nWhy would marijuana be considered any different from alcohol here?"
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I’m more worried about alcoholics owning guns honestly. Not that they should be banned either but a drunk is more dangerous than a stoner.
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?",
">\n\nSo can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?",
">\n\nWhy would marijuana be considered any different from alcohol here?",
">\n\nStoners are the last people I’d worry about with guns."
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It sounds like this is consistent with the recent domestic violence restraining order situation. If you're actually convicted of a felony you can be prevented from buying guns, but it doesn't apply if you're just suspected.
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?",
">\n\nSo can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?",
">\n\nWhy would marijuana be considered any different from alcohol here?",
">\n\nStoners are the last people I’d worry about with guns.",
">\n\nI’m more worried about alcoholics owning guns honestly. Not that they should be banned either but a drunk is more dangerous than a stoner."
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Marijuana is the easiest going drug….it’s people peddling you opioids and other stuff telling you weed is bad that need to be banned from holding guns..
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?",
">\n\nSo can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?",
">\n\nWhy would marijuana be considered any different from alcohol here?",
">\n\nStoners are the last people I’d worry about with guns.",
">\n\nI’m more worried about alcoholics owning guns honestly. Not that they should be banned either but a drunk is more dangerous than a stoner.",
">\n\nIt sounds like this is consistent with the recent domestic violence restraining order situation. If you're actually convicted of a felony you can be prevented from buying guns, but it doesn't apply if you're just suspected."
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?",
">\n\nSo can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?",
">\n\nWhy would marijuana be considered any different from alcohol here?",
">\n\nStoners are the last people I’d worry about with guns.",
">\n\nI’m more worried about alcoholics owning guns honestly. Not that they should be banned either but a drunk is more dangerous than a stoner.",
">\n\nIt sounds like this is consistent with the recent domestic violence restraining order situation. If you're actually convicted of a felony you can be prevented from buying guns, but it doesn't apply if you're just suspected.",
">\n\nMarijuana is the easiest going drug….it’s people peddling you opioids and other stuff telling you weed is bad that need to be banned from holding guns.."
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"I had to swear I don’t use marijuana in order to renew my concealed permit. Lol\nI swear guys. Swear.",
">\n\nThe thing with those laws is that of course you lied. So then, if you were ever caught with weed while driving or anything, it allowed them to genuinely fuck you. It worked great on minorities.",
">\n\n\"It was true when I signed, but then things like... changed, man.\"",
">\n\nI used to smoke weed. Still do but I used to as well.",
">\n\nGone too soon. He was great.",
">\n\n“I didn’t even know he was sick”",
">\n\nI mean he overdosed on a speedball",
">\n\nIt's a Norm Macdonald joke",
">\n\nNo it’s a Mitch hedberg joke",
">\n\nI was thinking of Mitch.",
">\n\nGood for him! Now someone needs to take it further up and get it taken off the 4473.",
">\n\nThe ATF doesn’t care about law. They’ll keep it to dissuade people until a court forces them to take it off.",
">\n\nyup, the ATF love it. \"You do drugs and lied on the form, thanks for the money\"",
">\n\nOr they'll say it's ok for a decade, then change their minds and make you a felon.",
">\n\nThis one hurts. An \"opinion\" of a bureau can ruin many lives.",
">\n\nGood. I'd trust a stoner with a gun more than I would an alcoholic.",
">\n\nThere's a good chance we'd forget to load it, for starters.",
">\n\nBecause we forgot the super safe place we stashed the ammo.",
">\n\nAnd the combination to the gun safe",
">\n\nAs one who keeps my buds and edibles in a safe due to kids in the house, I can attest this is a real -world problem",
">\n\nI have a decoy safe in an obvious place with some important documents in it, and a hidden safe elsewhere with more sensitive stuff. Give them the satisfaction of thinking they found the secret and throw them off the scent.",
">\n\nI can find your safe with a stud finder way faster than you ever thought",
">\n\nToo bad I'm standing around and throwing off it's readings!",
">\n\nPro tip, if you switch the stud finder to look for metal studs it'll go off on your crotch (if you're wearing jeans since it finds the zipper.) Then switch it back to wood and hand it to a friend and watch them find nothing. Laugh and say \"Guess you're not a stud\".\nDon't ask why I know this works...",
">\n\nPlot twist: your friend has a wooden prosthetic",
">\n\nBeen waiting for some of these to pop up.",
">\n\nBeen that way in michigan for a while",
">\n\nIt is from desperation absolutely. That and feeling helpless or trapped. Americans are stressed the fuck out and it’s because of corporate dominance over workers and the populace. Ads everywhere, debt everywhere, fees everywhere, exorbitant expenses for healthcare and education. And in more civilized countries all that money goes into keeping the country nice and the citizenry happy, where ours just goes to the c-suite and we see nothing in return. Our problems are serious and many and they’re systemic.",
">\n\nMy grandfather owned a wood mill. Big lumber drove him out of business in the late 60's.\nMy whole life he worked at 1 place. The hardware store.\nGrandma was a SAHM. They bought a house and raised a family on his income and benefits from working 40 hours a week at the hardware store.\nThat version of the USA is dead. The greedy asshats stole it away from the American people.",
">\n\nOne step closer to the dream of gay couples protecting their weed plants with full auto guns.",
">\n\nI believe and support my gay neighbors right to protect their marijuana farm with fully automatic rifles.",
">\n\nAmen to that",
">\n\nI would also appreciate it if they shared. Crops or ammo. Or BBQ recipes. Just be neighborly man",
">\n\nBBQ is the shit",
">\n\nInvest in a cheap(ish) charcoal smoker, learn a recipe for making your own bbq sauce AND/OR dry rub, buy a 12 pack, and tell the wife you’ll see her at dinner time\nShe will either love it, or leave you. But you’ll have all the ribs so really, she’s the one losing out",
">\n\nWhat do you usually do while they smoke? Is it an active process or can you make a nice day of it with video games?",
">\n\nSmoking doesnt really take so long, tbh. 4-ish hours. Get a wifi thermometer with two probes, with a lower and upper limit alarms. Use one to monitor the chamber, use the other in the meat. You've got a few hours to 'watch' the cooker, usually from the 'workshop.'",
">\n\nSmoker and a workshop? Living the dream tbh, throw in a steam deck or PS5 and it sounds like paradise. \nI like that meat smokers are online now too lmao.",
">\n\nYeah, that’d be a pretty stupid ban. You hear stories frequently of someone getting drunk and shooting themselves, people or their spouse. But you never hear of someone eating mad edibles and going on a rampage.",
">\n\n\neating mad edibles and going on a rampage.\n\nOnly on the snack cabinet",
">\n\nMy Oreos are gone AGAIN!",
">\n\nOh, the humanity! #Thoughtsandprayers",
">\n\nWhoever did this is no human, all that was left were crumbs.",
">\n\nGood. It’s stupid that if it’s legal in your state that you are risking federal retaliation.",
">\n\nEspecially if it's prescribed under the medical program. If there is no restriction for other prescribed medications and we are finally supposed to be treating cannabis as a legit form of treatment, this needed to happen. \nYou should not have to choose between your health and your firearm ownership.",
">\n\nNot that I agree with it, but this is a common argument I hear about red flag laws around mental health. That people will avoid getting help because they might lose their guns with a diagnosis.\nWhen in reality, it's just plain hard to get mental health help. We should still take guns away from people with certain diagnoses. Maybe temporarily, maybe not.",
">\n\nIn some states, children with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism are legally required to be given special education. Since special ed. programs are often dens of academic neglect, some child psychologists and parents conspire to omit an official diagnosis to keep their child enrolled mainstream.",
">\n\nI can confirm this first hand. Many schools, just having an IEP or diagnosis means getting dumped in with the mentally handicapped kids, which tends to be pretty miserable. Any kind of self-paced learning would be vastly preferred over that.",
">\n\nthis is a half measure. \na ban on marijuana users is immoral bullshit.",
">\n\nRemember when they ruined FPSRussia because he smoked a little green?",
">\n\nThis is exactly where my mind went. Would this open a way for Kyle to return?",
">\n\nDoubtful. Not only was his murdered business partner the one holding the Federal licenses to obtain such weapons but Youtube is straight up anti-gun now. They will remove your video for showing such top secret things as inserting a loaded magazine into a firearm or attaching a suppressor plus a whole host of other things that basic firearms reviewers and showmen like FPSrussia did without a second thought only just last year.",
">\n\nGood. It's ridiculous and impedes people who use it as medicine to have protection.",
">\n\nAnd yes people who just use it recreationally still should be allowed to own firearms. If people can consume alcohol as much as they want and have firearms then the biggest 24/7 stoner should be able to have them too.",
">\n\nYeah, straight up I'm more worried about a drunk driver or drunk with a gun - than I am with someone on marijuana.",
">\n\nI think the TryGuys did a video on YouTube a while back where they were on a closed track and consumed a fair amount of various intoxicants. If I remember correctly, they arrived at the same conclusion. I've also unfortunately been a passenger while the driver was intoxicated (rideshare drivers, reported the shit out of them) and my experience also agrees.",
">\n\nYeah the issue is basically that you aren't on a set course, you are in a live environment. That being said the unfortunate issue is that there's no good test for how high you are so it's gonna remain heavily restrictive. \nWe've all seen somebody totally missing something right in front of them before.",
">\n\nTo be more specific, we don’t have a good marker for the amount of the drug that’s actively available in someone’s system. In addition to retention in fat deposits that can be released into the body after cessation, cannabinoids are endogenous to the human body. \nThere are some common sense steps to take, however, to better hold drivers accountable: saliva and blood testing. Both equalize the detectable window of the test to cannabinoids relative to water-soluble substances including cocaine and opiates",
">\n\nMarijuana safer than alcohol mentally and physically, and safer than tobacco, and less addictive. The drug war has been a failure because it was never meant to stop drugs.",
">\n\nMakes sense. Look at the proportion of boozed up shooters compared to stoners who lose it. Much safer to be around the smokers.",
">\n\nNot to mention strung out on over-prescribed psych meds and legal opiates & amphetamines that are peddled by major corporations....",
">\n\nDefinitely agree with this. This shouldn't be a reason to ban people from owning firearms.",
">\n\nAnd yet drunks of all shades owning guns was never up for debate.",
">\n\nYeah I listened to a police lieutenant try to argue to my why no one with a medical marijuana card should be allowed to own a gun but any other medication is just fine. His argument was about as dumb as you can imagine. Basically boiled down to because I say so!\nETA it was probably the only gun control measure he agreed with because to him it hurt the “right” people",
">\n\nHe probably makes all the officers under him wish they could smoke on their days off.",
">\n\nI work with officers regularly & the one thing they all agree on is that they wish they could partake. Manu say it's the first thing they plan doing when they retire.",
">\n\nWho was it that said something along the lines of: \"if you put a bunch of gangsters in a room with a bong, they'll work things out. If you put a bunch of people in a room with alcohol, someone's getting shot\"",
">\n\nGood, was designed as a racist law to disarm minorities.",
">\n\nCalifornia used gun control to disarm Black Panther groups when Reagan was governor. Gun control has always been to harm minorities.",
">\n\nWith the explicit help of the NRA. The bills author was quoted saying it couldn't have happened without the.",
">\n\nThe NRA was pretty much only a pro gun organization after the revolt in the 70s and before the 2000s. It was Fudd central before and now is corrupt to the core.",
">\n\nNRA is junk. GOA is fighting the fight now",
">\n\nGood.\nI have zero interest in smoking weed but like that I (and everyone else) can do so without risking their rights.",
">\n\nI can finally stop lying on the background check forms lmao",
">\n\nFinally something we all agree on",
">\n\nI feel like this has racism written all over it. Let’s stop a certain group that police stop regularly from owning legal guns.",
">\n\n'Ban on marijuana ~~users owning guns~~ is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules'\nSomeday soon, maybe.",
">\n\nI'm less afraid of a stoned person with a gun than I am a drunk person with a gun.",
">\n\nFinally, letting gay married couples protect their Marijuana plants with guns.",
">\n\nI feel like it’s the alcoholics they should worry about",
">\n\nI shed a single tear while saluting a bald eagle in flight.",
">\n\nLmao gtfo. The last thing I’m worried about when I’m high is shooting somebody. I’m just tryin to figure out where the pizza at.",
">\n\nFavorite pizza topping combo go",
">\n\nSpicy red sauce, mozz feta, pepperoni, Italian sausage, bell peppers onion banana peppers minced garlic\nAlso why did someone comment and say my understanding of the news was rather nil?",
">\n\nDamn that sounds good",
">\n\nSounds like heartburn. But yes, also good as hell",
">\n\nThe amount of people who drink and shoot is more concerning to me than someone that casually smokes. I've never met someone smoking weed while shooting.\nDrinking at anytime = OK to OWN guns.\nSmoking weed at anytime = permanently illegal to own guns.\nRidiculous.",
">\n\nIf you look at Form 4473, question 21.G it says \"unlawful user, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant....\". So technically the ATF could actually arrest excessive users of alcohol purchasing firearms. Instead they make up arbitrary new definitions and rulings to force on people that actually responsibly handle their firearms. Isn't it great?",
">\n\nAnd if you look at the Controlled Substances Act, “use” is not a criminalized activity (as opposed to, say, transport, sale, manufacture, possession, etc…). I’ve still never gotten a clear answer of what federal law exists that criminalizes marijuana “use”.",
">\n\nYou can't use it without possessing it?",
">\n\nBut you can possess without using, which is the relevant inquiry. Just like you can’t transport without possessing, but you can possess without transporting. Each action must have all its elements shown before you can be convicted for a crime related to that action. \nThe relevant question on the ATF for is if you are an unlawful user of marijuana. Usage requires not only possession, but actual ingestion or consumption of the illicit substance, which means an additional action beyond merely possessing the substance would have to be shown to convict someone of using the substance. And nothing in the CSA criminalizes usage, which is the relevant action the ATF is asking about.",
">\n\nUgh I wish this could like lead into full legalization. it’s so hard living in Georgia, no medical weed at all. I take so many medications for my heart and my head and I know marijuana would help me so much.",
">\n\nDidnt they just have a vote on medical in ga?",
">\n\nI can agree with this. Still think you should be sober while handling a firearm.",
">\n\nFWIW the ruling isn’t about operating a firearm under the influence. It’s about whether people that use weed should continue to be barred from legally owning firearms. Most users have to lie on their applications.",
">\n\nWith my concealed permit in PA I can drink in a bar with my gun.",
">\n\nYou don't even need a license to do that in Indiana.",
">\n\nYou filthy marijuana users are not allowed anywhere near a gun. It’s unresponsible and dangerous. Now hand me my beer and let’s go shoot shit.",
">\n\nGood! Now it just needs to be deemed unconstitutional for ANY workplace to ban medical marijuana.",
">\n\nThis is how I figured out one is better than the other. \nIf presented with a problem. High me….would communicate and work it out. \nDrunk me….would just punch you in the face. \nOne is definitely better than the other.",
">\n\nDrinkers really do get a free pass on everything while marijuana users get shit on for no reason",
">\n\nEx-cons too.\nThey paid their dues for their crimes, all their rights should be reinstated including 2A rights.",
">\n\nAnd voting. I believe in Canada, even current convicts can vote",
">\n\nWait, is this not the norm around the world?\nIn Israel, all prisoners can vote in designated places in their prison. I always just assumed it works that way in every democracy.",
">\n\nYeah me too. I'm from Canada and was surprised to hear that the US doesn't allow people to vote from prison. And (some states) even after being released. No idea about other countries.",
">\n\nAlways something that bugs me is that concealed carry holders can't also be medicinal Marijuana card holders. It almost implies people with cancer and other debilitating problems have no right to defend themselves",
">\n\nThat’s why this ruling is important.",
">\n\nYou have the right to be stoned and in possession of a firearm.",
">\n\nI don't think that's what this says. It says your \"status as a marijuana user\" doesn't preclude you from owning firearms.\nPossession of a controlled substance with access to a firearm is still a federal crime.",
">\n\nOk, I can get behind this one.",
">\n\nI don't smoke, but good.",
">\n\ndon't touch my weed or guns, wtf",
">\n\nI'm a filthy liberal and I love this. Anything to combat selective enforcement.",
">\n\nStoners are far safer than alcoholics when it comes to firearms.\nIt's also in use as a legitimate medicine in some parts of the country. \nAlso, given the track record of the \"War On Drugs\" being used as a way to target and harass minorities, even better.",
">\n\nFPSRussia did nothing wrong",
">\n\nMy first thought. Bro needs a pardon.",
">\n\nLol the only way to get positive views on gun ownership in this sub is to add weed.\nAt least people are getting it. Surprise, surprise, gun legislation is the same as weed legislation. What? You mean medical marijuana license registrations are used to jail “undesirables?!” That’s impossible, it clearly just keeps weed away from criminals.\nIt’s funny how when people talk about cops killing black people, you never hear the name Philando Castile. It’s honestly extremely telling. Because the side of the political spectrum that brings attention to cops killing black people don’t want people, especially minorities, to have firearms. To them, what happened to Castile was a good thing. And all it reveals is that the right and the left are the same damn party. The party of your money in their pockets. Your freedom, your rights, and your civil liberties taken. And your knees bent.",
">\n\nIf people can have guns when on marijuana, it seems like maybe they should be able to get a Job on weed also. It’s time for a marijuana reform bill folks!",
">\n\nWho is identified as a Marijuana user, specifically? Like how would someone be identified as a user? If someone once bought Marijuana from a dispensary does that automatically make them a user, therefore they instantly can’t own a gun? Was that were this was going??",
">\n\nThe term \"user\" isn't specified in the law beyond \"someone who uses\", so the ATF has broad authority to make up the criteria for what makes someone a user and change it whenever they want. Right now, a positive test in the last year or so is sufficient, I've heard people say 18 months, three years, some jurisdictions are rumored to call it seven or eight. Having a medical card is sufficient, as is having THC in your system. If you meet their intentionally vague criteria, you are prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's been this way for a long time now, it's a fed thing.",
">\n\nAll the people I’ve seen out “hunting” have been drinking or drunk…except one bow-hunter.",
">\n\nThat's weird. When I've partaken, the most dangerous or offensive thing I do is cook. Have you ever known a violent stoner?",
">\n\nBut a cocaine and meth addict can take one no problem? \nI swear this country wants us to fail. they want us to become drug addicts and see our lives destroyed. \nIm convinced.",
">\n\nAbout fucking time. Drunks w guns, sure no problem. Cannabis smoker dealing w their seizures….no legal gun for you. Very glad to see this change.",
">\n\nAs a tree enthusiast, there are few things I want to do less when I’m engulfed in the couch eating chips watching documentaries than shoot somebody lmfao",
">\n\nUsually the stoners are too chill to want to hurt others anyway.",
">\n\nDoesn’t mean I don’t want to shoot at the target in the backyard though.",
">\n\nBecause pot heads are known for violent crimes.",
">\n\nThe Supreme Court loves guns way more than they hate drugs. Joking aside, it makes sense constitutionally.",
">\n\nMarijuana possession should be a core requirement of gun ownership",
">\n\nIt is a fantastic de-escalator.",
">\n\nFucking finally. How is this any different than drinking. (I’m aware pot is federally illlegal)",
">\n\nIt’s different in that alcohol and guns is a far more dangerous mixture",
">\n\nRemember, gun control has its roots in racism and continues to effect minorities. Gun control was used in California to disarm the Black Panther Party when Reagan was governor.",
">\n\nJust because I imbibe, doesn’t mean I agree to forfeit my rights. I have never seen the logical cause and effect of such a policy. \nI should be held accountable for anything I do, but I shouldn’t be restricted in any circumstances beforehand unless I have given reason to restrict me.",
">\n\nIt makes no sense at all to me that you can lose your right to own a firearm for a nonviolent offense in the first place.",
">\n\nMaybe this will be the return of FPS Russia on YouTube",
">\n\nThe ban on marijuana is unconstitutional as well, and you don't have to be a fucking judge to know that",
">\n\nIt’s not unconstitutional it’s just stupid. The interstate commerce clause has had its scope expanded so much over time that it allows the gov to do shit like this",
">\n\nWhich is why the feds won’t go after people growing, distributing, and using within a state where marijuana is legal. They don’t want to risk federal drug laws and / or Wickard v. Filburn getting struck down for violating the 10th Amendment.",
">\n\nThis sounds like a sneaky way to ban black people from owning guns since black people disproportionately have higher marijuana convictions (despite similar usage among both races).",
">\n\nAlways has been",
">\n\nYou can pry the blunt from my cold blue lips.",
">\n\nIt’s the drunk hillbillies they need to worry about not us stoners",
">\n\nThe biggest danger is me making two root beer floats while stoned",
">\n\nAnd mines pounding a pint of ice cream lmao",
">\n\nTry the Mexican creme/fruit popsicles for pure taste explosion when high as one of the benefits of SoCal is Mexican desserts, as they got sweets down!",
">\n\nOoo I’ll check them out, thanks",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now allow me to deposit money from my job into a bank account, thanks.",
">\n\nFlorida's Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried tried to get a similar lawsuit passed regarding medical marijuana cards and firearms. The ATF updated the background check form a few years ago so that it stated that even if it's legal in your state you can't buy a gun due to it being illegal federally. If you have a card you have to answer yes and the dealer will deny the sale. If you say no, you're lying on a federal form, a felony.",
">\n\nTotally not designed to oppress minorities.",
">\n\nOne step closer to having my transgender lesbian neighbors defending their pot farm with automatic weapons! Freedom = Freedom. No other way.",
">\n\nWe'd need to re-open the machine gun registry to new machine guns for that to happen. And some states would have to re-allow possession of machine guns.",
">\n\nOr just abolish the registry as a whole",
">\n\nWhen has that stopped anybody?\nIt literally states, \"Shall not be infringed\" and the courts decided a while ago this specifically applied to people owning and possessing arms (Heller).\nMy own state's constitution goes further and specifically prohibits me from joining any sort of militia, just to head off that typical-to-reddit idiocy.\nBut my same state has now banned the sale/manufacture/distribution of the kinds of magazines that come standard with most firearms these days. They didn't ban ownership or possession specifically because laws banning those things have already been deemed unconstitutional.\nNow they want to ban so-called assault weapons. Again in my state, the legal definition of an assault rifle is... get this... any semi-automatic rifle. Yes, including a Ruger 10/22 or any other .22 caliber rifle, and so on. Once again they're talking about grandfathering etc. because - again - doing otherwise is well known to be unconstitutional. \nSo.... what? Am I supposed to be able to ingest CBD for pain? You'll have to pardon me if I doubt that.",
">\n\nI've never met a person who's high on THC that has wanted to show off their loaded gun...but I've definitely been around several drunk hicks who do.",
">\n\nSo can I get a gun yet or not? I read the article and everything!",
">\n\nYou didn't get yours? Mine showed up on the side table next to me as soon as I came back to the comments.",
">\n\nThere are some states looking to allow alcohol with gun ranges. Sorry but if you are allow people in general to drink and also own guns, well you sure as hell can be on marijunana.",
">\n\nJust keep in mind this applies to general use and not medical. If you have a medical card for anything mental health related then that would disqualify you. It seems obvious mental health would impact thus but I only say this because people just lie about things like PTSD to get a medical card for cheaper or easy access to weed . Then they don't put two and two together that the lie would impact this. \nI am in no way giving opinions just providing info.",
">\n\nYah, but drunks are welcome",
">\n\nI would sooner trust a marijuana user with a gun than I would an alcohol user and a gun.",
">\n\nOkay I honestly can’t pick the party. \nIt’s a gun law so I assume Democrats but it’s anti Pot which screams Republican",
">\n\nThe elephant in the room is that, at least for myself, stoned gunnowners somehow do not sound as dangerous as lets say, drunk gun owners.",
">\n\nThe fact this was a thing at all just dumbfounds me. I know plenty of people who own guns who have a drinking problem. You know, because that's never going to be an issue.",
">\n\nThis is great because my girlfriends dad has severe Crohn’s disease and has thought about getting a medical card in PA. But wouldn’t because he could lose his hunting or gun license",
">\n\nI can't buy a gun because I have a legal medical card. But my neighbor who buys it illegally and has no card is allowed to buy as many guns as he wants. Make it make sense.",
">\n\nI got a ticket for possession recently and the cop told me I should just get my medical card. I told him I didn't like the idea of giving up constitutional rights, even though I don't actually own a gun and have no plans to own one. All of this was news to him, he wasn't even aware of the ban on gun ownership due to federal scheduling.",
">\n\nInsane this when to court. Imagine if they tried to argue this but with a much more prevalent, dangerous, and addictive drug: alcohol. People would riot in the streets like nothing else despite it being objectively worse in every metric.",
">\n\nI think I'd be much more likely to shoot myself after a bad day and 6 beers than a bad day and a couple edibles",
">\n\nHunter S. Thompson would be so happy.",
">\n\nResponsible adult license coming next, 70% of population will fail and then there will be less traffic on the road as well... also economy would collapse lol.",
">\n\nBeen waiting for this day!",
">\n\nIt’s fine guys. Laser weapons are almost here and they are much cooler to look at while stoned.",
">\n\nNext they're gonna try to ban gun users from owning marijuana",
">\n\nIllegal laws are illegal.",
">\n\nWell didn't Biden pardon literal thousands of weed prisoners anyways?",
">\n\nGood. I want gay couples to protect their marijuana plants with guns",
">\n\nDo people who regularly consume marijuana in states where it is legalized no longer have the right to drive?\nSince THC binds to fat and can stay in the body for months or even years after quitting smoking,\nOr is there a detection rate, and for example you are only positive if you smoked an hour or two before taking your car?\nOr is it legal to smoke while driving ?",
">\n\nSo can I have both a weed license and a gun license now on NY?",
">\n\nWhy would marijuana be considered any different from alcohol here?",
">\n\nStoners are the last people I’d worry about with guns.",
">\n\nI’m more worried about alcoholics owning guns honestly. Not that they should be banned either but a drunk is more dangerous than a stoner.",
">\n\nIt sounds like this is consistent with the recent domestic violence restraining order situation. If you're actually convicted of a felony you can be prevented from buying guns, but it doesn't apply if you're just suspected.",
">\n\nMarijuana is the easiest going drug….it’s people peddling you opioids and other stuff telling you weed is bad that need to be banned from holding guns..",
">\n\nI take a pot gummy almost every night and let me tell you the only thing I’m worried about is when the food is ready"
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I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice;
People who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.
Yeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.
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The Reddit take: "This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!"
The reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors."
] |
>
So a government official who is promoting government overreach.....
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted."
] |
>
Right, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach....."
] |
>
thats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan."
] |
>
This isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society."
] |
>
gotta start somewhere dude.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming."
] |
>
Question is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption "thinking of him."
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude."
] |
>
So does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\""
] |
>
And yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation."
] |
>
Literally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years."
] |
>
sorry what
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife"
] |
>
You heard him.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what"
] |
>
I hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him."
] |
>
They will probably install a VPN instead of a government app
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them."
] |
>
And that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord
- kid
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app"
] |
>
Why not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid"
] |
>
Bold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought"
] |
>
Pretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say "alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore" and leave it at that.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!"
] |
>
"I'll just use my NordVPN!"
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that."
] |
>
Lol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\""
] |
>
“I’m over 18, ”
Good job, pays des droits de l’Homme
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware."
] |
>
I think you'll find it's:
Je suis 18?
[Oui] [Non]
If there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme"
] |
>
*J'ai 18 ans ?
In French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself."
] |
>
Yeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks."
] |
>
what an absolute waste of time and resources
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep."
] |
>
Yes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources"
] |
>
It is, in fact, the only answer.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this."
] |
>
Good luck.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer."
] |
>
are you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck."
] |
>
yeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed."
] |
>
Of all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of."
] |
>
It's only considered porn if it's not in French.
"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!" makes it acceptable.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card."
] |
>
this is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a "great wall" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective)
Laws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable."
] |
>
Hehehe erect.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?"
] |
>
And a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect."
] |
>
"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription."
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN."
] |
>
Gonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\""
] |
>
Oh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way."
] |
>
It is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice."
] |
>
That's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc"
] |
>
Ah yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5"
] |
>
Cant they use a vpn
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue"
] |
>
Thought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn"
] |
>
Its so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe"
] |
>
Wait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn."
] |
>
Hmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn."
] |
>
Slippery slope.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense"
] |
>
What a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope."
] |
>
Figured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out"
] |
>
Soon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective"
] |
>
Is there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again."
] |
>
Or harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?"
] |
>
But what will the kids do before smoking?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?"
] |
>
Freedom at its finest.
Good job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?"
] |
>
The harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion.
Trade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.
There is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian "protection of children" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public.
The security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal.
This app will end up having a body count.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it."
] |
>
This should be higher up
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count."
] |
>
Odd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up"
] |
>
I mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15."
] |
>
Oh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.
Like half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried."
] |
>
I never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it."
] |
>
knowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex."
] |
>
Pornhub is where I got my sex ed
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1"
] |
>
So they're blocking Tik Tok too?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed"
] |
>
I don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying "adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn." I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?"
] |
>
They probably meant “with” minors.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous."
] |
>
I’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors."
] |
>
and will NEVER happen
ANYWHERE
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass"
] |
>
This was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE"
] |
>
You think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!"
] |
>
Yeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.
(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?"
] |
>
nameserver 1.1.1.3
nameserver 1.0.0.3
cloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)"
] |
>
Foucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still"
] |
>
The Age od consent in france is 15
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen."
] |
>
they are gonna start watching amouranth instead
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15"
] |
>
why do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead"
] |
>
Gonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.
Wait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones"
] |
>
Somehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday.
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones",
">\n\nGonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.\nWait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard."
] |
>
I thought europe, France in particular, was supposed to be sexually liberated?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones",
">\n\nGonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.\nWait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard.",
">\n\nSomehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday."
] |
>
Louisiana tried this and it's an absolute disaster. VPN all day
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones",
">\n\nGonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.\nWait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard.",
">\n\nSomehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday.",
">\n\nI thought europe, France in particular, was supposed to be sexually liberated?"
] |
>
France has porn sites for minors?
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones",
">\n\nGonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.\nWait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard.",
">\n\nSomehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday.",
">\n\nI thought europe, France in particular, was supposed to be sexually liberated?",
">\n\nLouisiana tried this and it's an absolute disaster. VPN all day"
] |
>
The bare minimum, congrats!
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones",
">\n\nGonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.\nWait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard.",
">\n\nSomehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday.",
">\n\nI thought europe, France in particular, was supposed to be sexually liberated?",
">\n\nLouisiana tried this and it's an absolute disaster. VPN all day",
">\n\nFrance has porn sites for minors?"
] |
>
Fuck no. You clearly didn't read how they want to implement it
|
[
"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones",
">\n\nGonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.\nWait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard.",
">\n\nSomehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday.",
">\n\nI thought europe, France in particular, was supposed to be sexually liberated?",
">\n\nLouisiana tried this and it's an absolute disaster. VPN all day",
">\n\nFrance has porn sites for minors?",
">\n\nThe bare minimum, congrats!"
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"I mean that’s what they’ll say it’s for. Because nobody wants to let kids watch porn obviously. But in practice; \n\nPeople who want to visit these websites will have to install an application for government-licensed digital certification on their mobile phones to prove that they are at least 18 years old.\n\nYeah that’s very different to blocking access to porn for minors.",
">\n\nThe Reddit take: \"This is clearly government overreach, an attempt to backdoor computers!\"\nThe reality: This is some minister or group of them trying to raise their profile with a perennial move, one which is absolutely never really enacted.",
">\n\nSo a government official who is promoting government overreach.....",
">\n\nRight, as a career builder, not a realistic plan.",
">\n\nthats how it all starts buddy. better rally against it now as hard as possible instead of just treating it like some far fetched idea which could never actually take hold in society.",
">\n\nThis isn't rallying, this is voidscreaming.",
">\n\ngotta start somewhere dude.",
">\n\nQuestion is, what do they define as a pornographic site? Twitter openly allows porn, and if people have to visit a site to tweet it's going to kill the platform in the country. People by and large aren't going to install an app to upload pics of the meal they last ate with the caption \"thinking of him.\"",
">\n\nSo does Reddit. Going to be a very tough implementation.",
">\n\nAnd yet the age of consent in France is 15. So you can have sex with someone who isn't old enough to watch porn for three more years.",
">\n\nLiterally the French President was banging his 32 year old teacher at 15 who is now his wife",
">\n\nsorry what",
">\n\nYou heard him.",
">\n\nI hope they know that a fucking 6 year old will be able to find their way around those apps. This is old people reacting to things that scare them. Kids shouldn't be looking at porn, obviously. But this isn't going to stop them.",
">\n\nThey will probably install a VPN instead of a government app",
">\n\nAnd that's a smooth segue to our sponsor, Nord\n- kid",
">\n\nWhy not just be better parents... crazy fucking thought",
">\n\nBold move to boost the IT education of the youth. Bravo!",
">\n\nPretty much. I doubt any teenager's gonna say \"alright, guess I'm not watching porn anymore\" and leave it at that.",
">\n\n\"I'll just use my NordVPN!\"",
">\n\nLol yeah let's not hold parents responsible for monitoring their children's internet usage. Instead we should make everyone install government mandated spyware.",
">\n\n“I’m over 18, ”\nGood job, pays des droits de l’Homme",
">\n\nI think you'll find it's:\n\nJe suis 18?\n[Oui] [Non]\n\nIf there's one thing I know for certain of our southern neighbour, using English for this would be more offensive than the block itself.",
">\n\n*J'ai 18 ans ?\nIn French, you say your age as a possession rather than something that you are. Also, you put a space before any punctuation that is 2 marks.",
">\n\nYeah, the guy in the photo looks like a porn loremaster. I can see why he wants to gatekeep.",
">\n\nwhat an absolute waste of time and resources",
">\n\nYes, porn being found by 11-year olds isn't ideal/good, yes it has huge impacts on development of young children. No, invasion of privacy is not the answer to this.",
">\n\nIt is, in fact, the only answer.",
">\n\nGood luck.",
">\n\nare you older than 18? yes. ok proceed.",
">\n\nyeah, good fucking luck guys. genuinely one of the most impossible endeavors i've heard of.",
">\n\nOf all countries to restrict porn, this was not on my bingo card.",
">\n\nIt's only considered porn if it's not in French.\n\"Mon Dieu! Plus rapide!!! Oui! Oui!\" makes it acceptable.",
">\n\nthis is going to be impossible to enforce unless they erect a \"great wall\" type of firewall like china (which they won't and isn't even 100% effective) \nLaws that are unenforceable are fucking useless. How can so much ignorance be possible on supposedly qualified lawmakers?",
">\n\nHehehe erect.",
">\n\nAnd a word from today's sponsor ___ VPN.",
">\n\n\"Todays podcast is brought to you by SurfShark! Do you want to watch internet content such as TV shows and Porn as if you lived in another country? Visit SurfShark.com/Barrot to get 30% off your subscription.\"",
">\n\nGonna go on a limb and assume the company that will have to implement this is linked to a sitting politician in some way.",
">\n\nOh, nothing like that at all. Their spouse merely sits on their board of directors for tax advice.",
">\n\nIt is so easy though. Enforce passeport authentication to access service provider internet. Decline this into as many controls as you want based on race genre nationality age etc",
">\n\nThat's insane. I grew up in France and use to watch porn on public television on France 5",
">\n\nAh yes alotof people born in 1904 January 26th is suddenly going to come out of the blue",
">\n\nCant they use a vpn",
">\n\nThought the same thing. Maybe it's for the purpose of selling/rolling out their digital certification app infrastructure, maybe it's theater to appear they're doing something despite being aware of the workaround, maybe they're confident that even with the workaround that a significant number of people will still be impeded from access, maybe it's a big data collection and surveillance scheme, maybe maybe maybe",
">\n\nIts so dumb though you telling me a 15 yr old in france can fuck physically but cant watch porn.",
">\n\nWait do you mean can legally consent in general? Wow, I knew they had early drinking age but damn.",
">\n\nHmmph its 15 so this bill makes no sense",
">\n\nSlippery slope.",
">\n\nWhat a pointless waste of money. A simple vpn will easily get around this and 12 year olds will most definitely be able to figure this out",
">\n\nFigured this out twenty years ago while torrenting.. so yeah, not really effective",
">\n\nSoon the average frenchman will work till they are 80 and have to wear a government gopro on their forehead you guys need the firemen to fight back again.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence for the proposition that a 17 year old, who searches out PornHub on their own, is being harmed by the visit?",
">\n\nOr harmed in any way that it wouldn't an 18 year old?",
">\n\nBut what will the kids do before smoking?",
">\n\nFreedom at its finest.\nGood job, France. Yet another country that doesn't get it.",
">\n\nThe harm of this will be massive and any data breach will almost certainly result in suicides and extortion. \nTrade in stolen porn site log in details exists, is pretty big and often form part of sextortion campaigns as well as simple data breaches and hacking. I have a text file 1.5 million log in details for porn sites that i am going through, there is educators, government and even an FBI email address i am researching. This is one small combo list.\nThere is no other way to put it, this is state sanctioned voyeurism and spying, it harms children and adults and is not at all needed in any capacity. The risk is to huge to warrant its implementation, the trade of for some utopian \"protection of children\" is not enough for the lives this harmful policy will ruin and the people this stuff will kill. There is a reason why people don't like having their sexual interests public. \nThe security would need to be top notch in order to prevent its abuse, France would need to prevent scam apps on the google app store (and ios) and it would need to ensure that any and all leaks, data breaches or hacks are treated with the upmost important. Even one scam website, a phishing could end up being fatal. \nThis app will end up having a body count.",
">\n\nThis should be higher up",
">\n\nOdd that the age to be able to view porn is 18, while the age to legally consent to sex is 15.",
">\n\nI mean, good luck stopping teenagers from having sex. Half of all kids would have a record before turning 18 if you tried.",
">\n\nOh yea because stopping them from watching porn is going to work.\nLike half the youtuber do vpn publicity they know where to go to get around it and if by some miracle they don't they will ask take 2 mins to bypass it.",
">\n\nI never suggested it would. Teens who want to watch it will have no problem getting around any measures put forth to stop them. I was saying this law is as useless as trying to stop/criminalize teens for having sex.",
">\n\nknowing the french they'll be a riot in 3,2,1",
">\n\nPornhub is where I got my sex ed",
">\n\nSo they're blocking Tik Tok too?",
">\n\nI don't feel like you can put the age of consent at 15 with no Romeo and Juliet clause, have constant people arguing to lower it and then also decide porn is for over 18. I'm American, so honestly it's not my system. But they don't see the hypocrisy of saying \"adults can fuck teenagers all they want but teens can't watch porn.\" I personally find their age of consent disgusting, a Romeo and Juliet clause would make it better for me but I understand Europeans think nothing of hebephilia as gross as I think it fucking is. This isn't about all that though. It's about treating teens as sexually adult in one context but not the other. They are old enough to have sex at 15 but not watch porn? You guys are ridiculous.",
">\n\nThey probably meant “with” minors.",
">\n\nI’m gonna see pregnancies rise possibly only source is my ass",
">\n\nand will NEVER happen\nANYWHERE",
">\n\nThis was the same place that had zero age of consent up until a lawsuit years ago. 2 eleven year old girls were raped, the men never charged, so they fought to have the law changed AND WON!!!",
">\n\nYou think this will cause as much uproar as them raising the age to collect Social Security, or even more?",
">\n\nYeah, good luck with that. Nothing can stop a horny teenage boy from getting to the porn.\n(Source: I was a horny teenage boy when porn war neither free nor ubiquitous)",
">\n\nnameserver 1.1.1.3\nnameserver 1.0.0.3\n\ncloudflare dns filtering adult content, not strong but still",
">\n\nFoucault and Derrida would have NEVER let this happen.",
">\n\nThe Age od consent in france is 15",
">\n\nthey are gonna start watching amouranth instead",
">\n\nwhy do they have pornography sites for minors, make them use regular ones",
">\n\nGonna have to start a side hussle selling thumb drives full of porn (you choose the type) on eBay and offer international shipping to France.\nWait, then I'm selling porn to minors. I did not think this through. Disregard.",
">\n\nSomehow, Steam will still need you to enter your birthday.",
">\n\nI thought europe, France in particular, was supposed to be sexually liberated?",
">\n\nLouisiana tried this and it's an absolute disaster. VPN all day",
">\n\nFrance has porn sites for minors?",
">\n\nThe bare minimum, congrats!",
">\n\nFuck no. You clearly didn't read how they want to implement it"
] |
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