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House Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.
Last I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?
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"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)"
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This article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.
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"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?"
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Lol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?
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"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything."
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This is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense
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"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?"
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GQP manufactured dipshittery
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense"
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Hating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it.
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery"
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"Please join this bill smearing your own legislative history and accomplishments. No, none of is actual Socialism, but we both know that Progressives will put us out of work if we don't team up now."
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery",
">\n\nHating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it."
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Socialism has been used to label anything conservatives are against for so long, I don’t think they actually know what it is anymore. It’s the same thing they are doing with CRT.
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery",
">\n\nHating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it.",
">\n\n\"Please join this bill smearing your own legislative history and accomplishments. No, none of is actual Socialism, but we both know that Progressives will put us out of work if we don't team up now.\""
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The gqp must be referring to the $2trillion bill for corporate welfare that the donald slapped onto the middle class to pay.
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery",
">\n\nHating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it.",
">\n\n\"Please join this bill smearing your own legislative history and accomplishments. No, none of is actual Socialism, but we both know that Progressives will put us out of work if we don't team up now.\"",
">\n\nSocialism has been used to label anything conservatives are against for so long, I don’t think they actually know what it is anymore. It’s the same thing they are doing with CRT."
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There is no government without socialism.
Government takes taxes and builds a bridge, highway, electrical grid or other infrastructure that people need to conduct commerce or simply get to work?
THAT'S SOCIALISM!
Firefighters?
SOCIALISM!
Social Security?
SOCIALISM!
It doesn't matter of you are North Korea, Monaco, or the United States of America, your economy is a mixture of capitalism and socialism.
Arguing over the mix of capitalism and socialism is valid. Arguing over their vitality is a tragedy.
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery",
">\n\nHating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it.",
">\n\n\"Please join this bill smearing your own legislative history and accomplishments. No, none of is actual Socialism, but we both know that Progressives will put us out of work if we don't team up now.\"",
">\n\nSocialism has been used to label anything conservatives are against for so long, I don’t think they actually know what it is anymore. It’s the same thing they are doing with CRT.",
">\n\nThe gqp must be referring to the $2trillion bill for corporate welfare that the donald slapped onto the middle class to pay."
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That whole statement tells me they all failed political science.
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery",
">\n\nHating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it.",
">\n\n\"Please join this bill smearing your own legislative history and accomplishments. No, none of is actual Socialism, but we both know that Progressives will put us out of work if we don't team up now.\"",
">\n\nSocialism has been used to label anything conservatives are against for so long, I don’t think they actually know what it is anymore. It’s the same thing they are doing with CRT.",
">\n\nThe gqp must be referring to the $2trillion bill for corporate welfare that the donald slapped onto the middle class to pay.",
">\n\nThere is no government without socialism.\nGovernment takes taxes and builds a bridge, highway, electrical grid or other infrastructure that people need to conduct commerce or simply get to work?\nTHAT'S SOCIALISM!\nFirefighters?\nSOCIALISM!\nSocial Security?\nSOCIALISM!\nIt doesn't matter of you are North Korea, Monaco, or the United States of America, your economy is a mixture of capitalism and socialism.\nArguing over the mix of capitalism and socialism is valid. Arguing over their vitality is a tragedy."
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Not sure how this drives a wedge. I already know the Democratic Party doesn’t value me or my beliefs. They only get votes because there aren’t enough like me yet.
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[
"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery",
">\n\nHating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it.",
">\n\n\"Please join this bill smearing your own legislative history and accomplishments. No, none of is actual Socialism, but we both know that Progressives will put us out of work if we don't team up now.\"",
">\n\nSocialism has been used to label anything conservatives are against for so long, I don’t think they actually know what it is anymore. It’s the same thing they are doing with CRT.",
">\n\nThe gqp must be referring to the $2trillion bill for corporate welfare that the donald slapped onto the middle class to pay.",
">\n\nThere is no government without socialism.\nGovernment takes taxes and builds a bridge, highway, electrical grid or other infrastructure that people need to conduct commerce or simply get to work?\nTHAT'S SOCIALISM!\nFirefighters?\nSOCIALISM!\nSocial Security?\nSOCIALISM!\nIt doesn't matter of you are North Korea, Monaco, or the United States of America, your economy is a mixture of capitalism and socialism.\nArguing over the mix of capitalism and socialism is valid. Arguing over their vitality is a tragedy.",
">\n\nThat whole statement tells me they all failed political science."
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"Harry Truman called the GOP out many years ago. \nOctober 10, 1952, Harry Truman said this:\n \nSocialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.\nSocialism is what they called public power.\nSocialism is what they called social security.\nSocialism is what they called farm price supports.\nSocialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.\nSocialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.\nSocialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.\nWhen the Republican candidate inscribes the slogan \"Down With Socialism\" on the banner of his \"great crusade,\" that is really not what he means at all.\nWhat he really means is \"Down with Progress--down with Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal,\" and \"down with Harry Truman's fair Deal.\" That's all he means.",
">\n\n\nI know that you have been hearing a lot of charges lately about Government interference with business, about the undermining of the free enterprise system, and about \"creeping socialism.\" In short, you have been hearing that the Government is doing everything possible to wreck every industry in the country.\nNothing could be further from the truth. The record shows that the Government action in recent years has been the salvation of private enterprise ...\nI know there are some people who still don't believe that the policies of the Government have had anything to do with our present prosperity. That reminds me of a story I heard on my recent nonpolitical trip. It seems that there was a rock-ribbed old gentleman of a political persuasion, shall we say, somewhat different from mine. One of his friends asked him what man to vote for for President in 1952.\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I would like to vote for Dewey.\"\n\"Dewey!\" said the friend. \"Why Dewey?\"\n\"Well,\" he said, \"I voted for him the last two times, in 1944 and in 1948, and business has never been so good as it is today\" ...\nThe funny thing is that this has all been said before. The current campaign is almost exactly like the campaign of the old Liberty League, back in 1935 and 1936. I was in that campaign, too, by the way. It uses the same old slogans, the same old scarewords, and the same old falsehoods. The only difference is that it sounds even more foolish now than it did 14 years ago.\n\nHarry Truman June 6, 1950",
">\n\nPassing resolutions to fight a non-existent threat just legitimizes that unlikely threat while simultaneously adding support to the negative stigma of programs that help people (that are preyed on by rich con men who then use their own thievery to call the programs out as rife for abuse)\nNice job D’s /s",
">\n\n\"I vote against this because it's a stalking horse for the Republican attack on Social Security !\"\nThey can deny all they want. The public knows they lie, knows they deny their actions, and knows they are after Social Security.",
">\n\nI disagree, the vast majority of Americans think that socialism is a serious threat to this country and some Dems voting against this bill will be used by the Republicans mercilessly in campaigns",
">\n\nThe religion of St. John Birch has a powerful grip on its congregants.",
">\n\nTell you what, Republicans. We will not provide Federal/State health insurance, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other \"socialist\" benefits to anyone registered as a Republican, including members of Congress. This way you can in no way be accused of being a Socialist. Happy now?",
">\n\nDon't forget to make them repay their PPP loans.",
">\n\nIt is astounding that that many of them can't see through GOP bullshit at this stage of the game.",
">\n\nThey have been doing this since the 1980s. It would easier to ask Palov’s dog not to salivate.",
">\n\nThey have been doing it since they first saw the opportunity of a possibility weak Democrat with Harry Truman",
">\n\nThat is true . 80s just demarcates where the Democrats truly started to ape Republicans in the post WW 2 era and given up on even the pretense of social democracy ( or a mixed. economy)\nedit \nsince then you have even in the middle of a global pandemic the unwillingness to temporarily expand Medicare and overpayment into COBRA in fear of “Americans may like Medicare“",
">\n\nFitting that McCarthyism should return while a man with the same cursed name holds power in congress",
">\n\nThe Democratic Party is not socialist. In fact, much of it isn't even left-wing. Not surprisingly its members will denounce socialism when it's something they don't support. Nuances about the definition of socialism make no difference when the party doesn't support it in any way or under any definition. Letting the individual members respond as they wish seems ok here.",
">\n\nThe Republicans are not talking about actual socialism. That’s just a way to attack whatever the Democrats do. So even neoliberalism is “socialism.“ As is teaching kids that slavery happening. So is a movie like Knock at a cabin. So is a drag queen performance.",
">\n\nThe resolution itself doesn't list neoliberalism though. It lists things like Stalin's massacres and Cuba. If it had mentioned something like Social Security I doubt they'd vote for it then.",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that, this is about sound bites and cultural politics. See the Democrats also dont like drag shows of the cultural socialists . We in the far right are really the norm",
">\n\nNo one is going to hear that because you all down voted the comment listing the objection. \nWhy are you basing what is true and what facts we should know around the fact right wingers just ignore the truth? So what?",
">\n\nThey always do! The corpoDems are too timid to stand up to the most idiotic nonsense that the party of domestic terrorism puts in front of them. Then, they twist themselves into human pretzels explaining it away.\nThis country needs a strong, assertive and vocal progressive/socialist political party.",
">\n\nThe nightmare of public schooling, health regulation, unions, coops, public healthcare, paid parental leave, pensions, the weekend and of course unemployment benefits. \nMillions dead I tell you! Norway is a country with all their citizens busy on death marches.",
">\n\nNorway isn't socialist if that's what you're suggesting. Socialism is not the same as having some safety nets or regulation.",
">\n\nDefine socialism without defining things you happen to like outside the scope or resorting to claiming communism is socialism.",
">\n\nNorway is a mixed economy, just like ours. They don’t offer a single service with government funding that America doesn’t. The only difference is they open government assistance to the middle class.",
">\n\nRepublicans call mixed economy socialism so you are missing the point. They literallly call any one who disagrees with them a socialist or commie. It is bad politics to play into their games.\nEdit\nthis is literally being supported against the back drop of them using the debt ceiling to try to cut spending. One would be a fool to play along with such a game",
">\n\nWhen I want to be reminded how nothing is going to change (and probably will just get worse) I read the comments in these types of threads. I find it relaxing being reminded how we are afloat in a sea of chaos and nobody cares or knows how to captain the ship or act while aboard. Once you understand that it is only a matter of adapting to the change.",
">\n\nJesus Freaking Christ. \n109 Democrats voted FOR this crapulent red-baiting POS? \nEvery one of them ought to be primaried. Get 'em out.",
">\n\n\nBut it deliberately makes no distinction between those regimes and more contemporary leftist projects with commitments to democracy.\n\nAnd this is really the issue here. Condemning authoritarian socialist regimes is all fine and good, but that wasn't the point of this resolution.\nAll this did was drag social democracy and democratic socialism through the mud unjustly and demonstrates a lack of nuance by the Republicans and majority of Democrats.",
">\n\nThere's no such thing as authoritarian socialism. Authoritarianism is an exclusively right wing ideology, as left wing socialism deliberately favors the people over the powerful. You can claim to be socialist as the Nazis and Soviets did, but they were about as socialist as North Korea is a people's republic. \nAll your other points are correct though.",
">\n\nAlthough you will be downvoted on this, you're quite correct.\nMarx himself said - and he is followed by many other Marxian scholars - that to the extent that any government (before communism, when government \"withers away\") departs from authentic democracy, it is anti-socialist, against the principles of Marx and wrong.",
">\n\nI know full well most people will downvote me for it because they don't bother to actually research beyond their own confirmation biases.",
">\n\nThis is exactly why the GOP’s next coup is going to succeed: the Democrats can’t see the fucking threat right in front of them.",
">\n\nThere was no way to avoid it. Vote no you get criticized for supporting socialism. Vote yes and you get criticized for being too conservative. Abstain and you get criticized for not denouncing socialism. \nThere was no 'good' response to this by dems except to call it out for what it was: a waste of time. Which they did, but amazingly that isn't getting much coverage. There is just a lot of coverage about how 86 of them didn't vote yes and how the dems are in disarray. Weird, huh? Almost like the media is the one who took the bait...",
">\n\nDems should've voted no and called out the GOP for wasting everyone's time when there are more important things to debate and vote on.\nBut that won't happen, especially due to \"conservative democrats\" in the Blue Dogs and Common Sense caucuses of the house who will do anything to cater to their rich corporate donors. Every democrat interviewed who voted yes has failed to explain why they did so. We all know the reason... they gotta make sure their wealthy donors are happy! \nAnd the media will be all over this if it sparks outrage and bumps up their ratings.",
">\n\nIt’s not about not seeing the BS, it’s about educating your base about the BS, so you can ignore the foolishness. Educating people is much harder than scaring people (or evoking racism, sexism, etc)",
">\n\n\nHouse Republicans introduced a measure this week calling for Congress to condemn “the horrors of socialism.” It was bait. And most Democrats took it.\n\nLast I checked, the Democratic Party is doing just fine. Stable, always moving forward, and not afraid of change. The paralyzed GOP won't change. Who would you bet your money on?",
">\n\nThis article is bait. In a week not a single person will care about this vote but in a week we will have another week of the GOP controlled house doing absolutely nothing about anything.",
">\n\nLol, is this today’s “Dems in disarray” article?",
">\n\nThis is a better take than all the “Dems called Republicans’ bluff” nonsense",
">\n\nGQP manufactured dipshittery",
">\n\nHating socialism because Nazis misused the name is like hating food because people can be allergic to it.",
">\n\n\"Please join this bill smearing your own legislative history and accomplishments. No, none of is actual Socialism, but we both know that Progressives will put us out of work if we don't team up now.\"",
">\n\nSocialism has been used to label anything conservatives are against for so long, I don’t think they actually know what it is anymore. It’s the same thing they are doing with CRT.",
">\n\nThe gqp must be referring to the $2trillion bill for corporate welfare that the donald slapped onto the middle class to pay.",
">\n\nThere is no government without socialism.\nGovernment takes taxes and builds a bridge, highway, electrical grid or other infrastructure that people need to conduct commerce or simply get to work?\nTHAT'S SOCIALISM!\nFirefighters?\nSOCIALISM!\nSocial Security?\nSOCIALISM!\nIt doesn't matter of you are North Korea, Monaco, or the United States of America, your economy is a mixture of capitalism and socialism.\nArguing over the mix of capitalism and socialism is valid. Arguing over their vitality is a tragedy.",
">\n\nThat whole statement tells me they all failed political science.",
">\n\nNot sure how this drives a wedge. I already know the Democratic Party doesn’t value me or my beliefs. They only get votes because there aren’t enough like me yet."
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They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.
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"Don't touch my Medicare" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long."
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I thought it was because he was a pedo
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see"
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Naw GOP that’s not an issue
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo"
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Probably loved a democrat.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue"
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Republicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat."
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Yet shitloads of poor people vote for them
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people."
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Shitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them"
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I really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day.
But you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties."
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I was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them."
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This is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations.
With how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away."
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The people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another."
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Whenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives"
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How do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that"
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Republicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.
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"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding."
] |
>
They live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it."
] |
>
It’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it."
] |
>
Froot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“"
] |
>
For sure😔
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :("
] |
>
Tens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔"
] |
>
Death Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats."
] |
>
We already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA."
] |
>
We've always had them, they're called insurance companies.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump."
] |
>
Underrated comment
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies."
] |
>
Tax the rich & f--k the GOP!
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment"
] |
>
Because I am on Reddit, not Twitter.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!"
] |
>
Trump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter."
] |
>
Why does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death."
] |
>
It doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?"
] |
>
GOP: we want to decrease government spending!
USA: okay, what do you want to cut?
GOP: No cuts! Only decreases.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets."
] |
>
So... Newspeak?
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases."
] |
>
"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course." - the Florida College Board
One of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?"
] |
>
School librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.
For the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.
I'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words."
] |
>
I'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.
There's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading."
] |
>
Retired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection ("We're just informing the kids of the new law.").
Of course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over "Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban."
] |
>
It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.
Does the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment.
It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books
I like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say "we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.
One addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the "banned" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents."
] |
>
Does the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment.
Public school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead."
] |
>
Democrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are."
] |
>
Absolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having"
] |
>
Wow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be "painful" but we have to get social welfare costs down.
I mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes.
Capitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.
But they see taxation as theft and social welfare as "handouts," but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.
This same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation "statistically." Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day."
] |
>
It’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated."
] |
>
Boomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s"
] |
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Blue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in."
] |
>
Folks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess"
] |
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Classic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage."
] |
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What’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base."
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The GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging."
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Orrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma"
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Republicans: Fuck working people.
Also Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program"
] |
>
I really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you."
] |
>
While they give themselves a raise
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?"
] |
>
Which is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise"
] |
>
Did we expect any different?
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich."
] |
>
Call their fucking bluff let them do it.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?"
] |
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The party that loves to see people suffer.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it."
] |
>
If Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer."
] |
>
Total up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred."
] |
>
Wildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design."
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I feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄"
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just remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times"
] |
>
They're literally killing us.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you."
] |
>
I sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us."
] |
>
That’s just texas
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder."
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas"
] |
>
There would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down."
] |
>
I used to believe that the people in power make bad choices like this on a case to case basis. In this case, I would assume they’re slashing Medicare because of “fiscal responsibility” or whatever. The plain truth, however, is rather obvious now. All of these choices are all related… to drive and strengthen the growth of a population of sick, uneducated and poor, in other words, desperate people. The capitalist powers that be, be they the politicians or their silent oligarch masters, have never before had so much to gain from a labor surplus of this scale. When the people at the bottom are fighting each other like rats over scraps just to survive, the people in the 1% are struggling with existential issues like “Will my private rocket company beat the other guys private rocket company to the moon?”. Meanwhile, the friction of our infighting approaches an ignition point as the landed gentry hoses us down with the gasoline of identity politics, Christian nationalism and the feAr oF sOciAliSm. This is late stage capitalism and it’s going to eat us up all the same regardless of your political ideology.
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down.",
">\n\nThere would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this."
] |
>
Why waste time, money and effort on a bill that is destined to fail either in the senate or on Biden’s desk? That’s not governance
|
[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down.",
">\n\nThere would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this.",
">\n\nI used to believe that the people in power make bad choices like this on a case to case basis. In this case, I would assume they’re slashing Medicare because of “fiscal responsibility” or whatever. The plain truth, however, is rather obvious now. All of these choices are all related… to drive and strengthen the growth of a population of sick, uneducated and poor, in other words, desperate people. The capitalist powers that be, be they the politicians or their silent oligarch masters, have never before had so much to gain from a labor surplus of this scale. When the people at the bottom are fighting each other like rats over scraps just to survive, the people in the 1% are struggling with existential issues like “Will my private rocket company beat the other guys private rocket company to the moon?”. Meanwhile, the friction of our infighting approaches an ignition point as the landed gentry hoses us down with the gasoline of identity politics, Christian nationalism and the feAr oF sOciAliSm. This is late stage capitalism and it’s going to eat us up all the same regardless of your political ideology."
] |
>
do better, TN-5
that'll tell um
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down.",
">\n\nThere would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this.",
">\n\nI used to believe that the people in power make bad choices like this on a case to case basis. In this case, I would assume they’re slashing Medicare because of “fiscal responsibility” or whatever. The plain truth, however, is rather obvious now. All of these choices are all related… to drive and strengthen the growth of a population of sick, uneducated and poor, in other words, desperate people. The capitalist powers that be, be they the politicians or their silent oligarch masters, have never before had so much to gain from a labor surplus of this scale. When the people at the bottom are fighting each other like rats over scraps just to survive, the people in the 1% are struggling with existential issues like “Will my private rocket company beat the other guys private rocket company to the moon?”. Meanwhile, the friction of our infighting approaches an ignition point as the landed gentry hoses us down with the gasoline of identity politics, Christian nationalism and the feAr oF sOciAliSm. This is late stage capitalism and it’s going to eat us up all the same regardless of your political ideology.",
">\n\nWhy waste time, money and effort on a bill that is destined to fail either in the senate or on Biden’s desk? That’s not governance"
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They seem to love writing bills that have no chance of being enacted, just to score points with their idiot base.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down.",
">\n\nThere would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this.",
">\n\nI used to believe that the people in power make bad choices like this on a case to case basis. In this case, I would assume they’re slashing Medicare because of “fiscal responsibility” or whatever. The plain truth, however, is rather obvious now. All of these choices are all related… to drive and strengthen the growth of a population of sick, uneducated and poor, in other words, desperate people. The capitalist powers that be, be they the politicians or their silent oligarch masters, have never before had so much to gain from a labor surplus of this scale. When the people at the bottom are fighting each other like rats over scraps just to survive, the people in the 1% are struggling with existential issues like “Will my private rocket company beat the other guys private rocket company to the moon?”. Meanwhile, the friction of our infighting approaches an ignition point as the landed gentry hoses us down with the gasoline of identity politics, Christian nationalism and the feAr oF sOciAliSm. This is late stage capitalism and it’s going to eat us up all the same regardless of your political ideology.",
">\n\nWhy waste time, money and effort on a bill that is destined to fail either in the senate or on Biden’s desk? That’s not governance",
">\n\n\ndo better, TN-5\n\nthat'll tell um"
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The GOP loves to ruin lives.
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down.",
">\n\nThere would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this.",
">\n\nI used to believe that the people in power make bad choices like this on a case to case basis. In this case, I would assume they’re slashing Medicare because of “fiscal responsibility” or whatever. The plain truth, however, is rather obvious now. All of these choices are all related… to drive and strengthen the growth of a population of sick, uneducated and poor, in other words, desperate people. The capitalist powers that be, be they the politicians or their silent oligarch masters, have never before had so much to gain from a labor surplus of this scale. When the people at the bottom are fighting each other like rats over scraps just to survive, the people in the 1% are struggling with existential issues like “Will my private rocket company beat the other guys private rocket company to the moon?”. Meanwhile, the friction of our infighting approaches an ignition point as the landed gentry hoses us down with the gasoline of identity politics, Christian nationalism and the feAr oF sOciAliSm. This is late stage capitalism and it’s going to eat us up all the same regardless of your political ideology.",
">\n\nWhy waste time, money and effort on a bill that is destined to fail either in the senate or on Biden’s desk? That’s not governance",
">\n\n\ndo better, TN-5\n\nthat'll tell um",
">\n\nThey seem to love writing bills that have no chance of being enacted, just to score points with their idiot base."
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down.",
">\n\nThere would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this.",
">\n\nI used to believe that the people in power make bad choices like this on a case to case basis. In this case, I would assume they’re slashing Medicare because of “fiscal responsibility” or whatever. The plain truth, however, is rather obvious now. All of these choices are all related… to drive and strengthen the growth of a population of sick, uneducated and poor, in other words, desperate people. The capitalist powers that be, be they the politicians or their silent oligarch masters, have never before had so much to gain from a labor surplus of this scale. When the people at the bottom are fighting each other like rats over scraps just to survive, the people in the 1% are struggling with existential issues like “Will my private rocket company beat the other guys private rocket company to the moon?”. Meanwhile, the friction of our infighting approaches an ignition point as the landed gentry hoses us down with the gasoline of identity politics, Christian nationalism and the feAr oF sOciAliSm. This is late stage capitalism and it’s going to eat us up all the same regardless of your political ideology.",
">\n\nWhy waste time, money and effort on a bill that is destined to fail either in the senate or on Biden’s desk? That’s not governance",
">\n\n\ndo better, TN-5\n\nthat'll tell um",
">\n\nThey seem to love writing bills that have no chance of being enacted, just to score points with their idiot base.",
">\n\nThe GOP loves to ruin lives."
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[
"They can just blame stuff like this on liberal socialists and the rubes who put them in office will eat it up all day long.",
">\n\n\"Don't touch my Medicare\" cost Denny Hastert ® his job. We'll see",
">\n\nI thought it was because he was a pedo",
">\n\nNaw GOP that’s not an issue",
">\n\nProbably loved a democrat.",
">\n\nRepublicans don’t give a fuck about poor people.",
">\n\nYet shitloads of poor people vote for them",
">\n\nShitloads of poor people don’t vote. Because neither party has any interest in enticing the almost 1/2 the country that doesn’t vote to do so. It would call for concrete action rather than lies from venal old pricks in both parties.",
">\n\nI really don't think you can blame the parties. Maybe the Republicans who strive for gerrymandered districts so their minority can control the majority of voters. Maybe the Republican party, for the exhaustion it imposes on people - endlessly inciting it's base, be endlessly harassing it's enemies - I bet a lot of people just check out from American politics because they're just crazy, all day. \nBut you have a duty to vote. Everyone does. Because checking out from politics leads to places like Russia, where folks are willingly ruled by a despot, simply because he deals with everything for them.",
">\n\nI was doing some math on the voting population in Texas the other day and got super depressed: 29M people in Texas, 18M registered voters (don't know if I am buying that 11M people are too young to vote, but whatever), only 8M voted in the recent midterms. So that means that just over 4M people are making all of the governance decisions for 29M people. This is the problem. If the registered voters would ALL vote, most of our political problems would go away.",
">\n\nThis is why we need to make voting day a federal holiday. This is also why republicans try so hard to limit access to voting stations. \nWith how important voting is and how it is everyone's civic duty, it should be a no-brainer to make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible. It doesn't even matter if it swings things one way or another.",
">\n\nThe people who depend on medicare the most voted for politicians who are going to destroy their lives",
">\n\nWhenever I bring up this point with MAGA folk they literally just say “no they arnt” and like how do I even respond to that",
">\n\nHow do you convince a lizard to file its taxes early? Same exact way. The issue isn't the lizard, it's the person thinking the lizards are capable of understanding.",
">\n\nRepublicans love cutting the resources of their biggest demographics while pretending they're looking out for them. And their constituents are dumb and old enough to believe it.",
">\n\nThey live in a media bubble devoid of reality. They can contradict themselves in the same breath, or just leave out details. Fox News would totally say something like: “ThE GoVERnMENt is TaKiNg your MeDiCARE!” And conveniently forget the whole part where the Republicans are behind it.",
">\n\nIt’s already “Biden isn’t doing enough for you to keep your Medicare. You’ll lose your Medicare under the Biden administration“",
">\n\nFroot loops who voted for those dipshits are clueless on how bad they, mom’n’dad & the grands are gonna be fucked if this goes thru. :(",
">\n\nFor sure😔",
">\n\nTens of Millions of White Seniors that voted for Republicans, are fully prepared to blame Democrats.",
">\n\nDeath Panels. Sarah was projecting this when Democrats took office in 2008. She's just off by fifteen years and Party. Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin birthed MAGA.",
">\n\nWe already had death panels during COVID-19 because of Trump.",
">\n\nWe've always had them, they're called insurance companies.",
">\n\nUnderrated comment",
">\n\nTax the rich & f--k the GOP!",
">\n\nBecause I am on Reddit, not Twitter.",
">\n\nTrump and the GOP were more than willing to kill off the elderly by denying a worldwide pandemic was occurring. They claimed it was just another strain of influenza and that people died from the flu all the time. Many on the right bought into this view even though people around them were dying. Even seniors that were most at risk denied that it was Covid-19 that was killing them as they lay dying in the hospital. All of this occurred because people worship Trump and his Pied Piper abilities to lead people to their death.",
">\n\nWhy does this matter when this bill will never pass the senate, and even if it did, Biden would veto it?",
">\n\nIt doesn't matter this year, with an existing budget. It will matter a lot next year, when the House is essential for ongoing budgets.",
">\n\nGOP: we want to decrease government spending!\nUSA: okay, what do you want to cut?\nGOP: No cuts! Only decreases.",
">\n\nSo... Newspeak?",
">\n\n\"Look, we're not banning or removing books by black authors. We're changing and streamlining the AP African American Studies course.\" - the Florida College Board\nOne of the recent examples of Republicans trying to redefine words.",
">\n\nSchool librarian friend said they already got a visit from the book police. They didn't have to remove any books yet.\nFor the most part, I'm happy just to know kids are reading any books.\nI'm not too concerned about what books, just that they are reading.",
">\n\nI'd really love if school librarians set aside a shelf with bars over the top of it. Inside the shelf would be book jackets (but not the actual books) of all the banned titles over unrelated non-banned books. Since no actual banned books would be there, there would be no violation of their stupid law. A sign near the bars would simply be a copy of the text of the state legislation banning them.\nThere's no more incentive to kids to do something than telling them they're not allowed to do it. This way schools could very easily communicate what was banned and with just the text of the law there could be no accusation of politicization. Librarians could simply say they are offering a lesson in civics and Florida law and letting the students know which books the state had chosen to ban.",
">\n\nRetired teacher. You're on the right track. It would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus. That would give the school protection (\"We're just informing the kids of the new law.\").\nOf course, the curious kids will just google the list. Assuming at least a few have already. Back in the 70s there was a big fuss over \"Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret\". A book about a pre-teen girl encountering periods and breast development. We were all desperate to read it because adults were so fearful of it's contents.",
">\n\n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books including a statement that the governor has banned them and they want to make sure no one brings them on campus.\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nIt would be more cost effective to print a poster with the list of books \n\nI like the cost effectiveness of the poster, but the (fake) books would allow a public spectacle. As in, the library builds the display as I described. The fascists that want to enforce the ban come in and demand them removed. The school can say \"we've done nothing illegal and we're not removing our display\". Eventually state police are brought in and while the cameras are rolling (because the fascists want to show their victory) it is revealed that there was nothing illegal being done to begin with (because its just book jackets and not books). Que the rightful outrage from parents and politicians about jackbooted thugs entering schools to remove books that aren't illegal.\nOne addition: throw a real copy of Fahrenheit 451 in there. It will get reported in the news stories as the only real book, and how it is about government control of books. Maybe all the \"banned\" books are actually real copies of Fahrenheit 451 instead.",
">\n\n\nDoes the law actually prevent students from bringing the book in on their own? I thought it only prevented publicly funded libraries from having it on their shelves. I would think taking a book owned by the student would be a violation of the student's 1st amendment. \n\nPublic school students leave many of their constitutional rights at the door, 4th amendment is the one I notice the most, but 1st gets beat up quite a bit as well and you can just forget about 2nd amendment rights on school grounds no mater who you are.",
">\n\nDemocrats need to start doing the Jon Stewart kind of pressers to scream about what Republicans don't want many Americans including the dumbshits who vote against them in their best interests from having",
">\n\nAbsolutely. “They’ll eliminate Social Security and Medicare”. Loud and clear, every single day.",
">\n\nWow, this Andy Ogles guy is a monster. He says it'll be \"painful\" but we have to get social welfare costs down.\nI mean, if Republicans were so goddamn worried about revenue vs spending then they could empower the IRS to make the rich pay their legal goddamn share and not keep making it easier for them to dodge taxes. \nCapitol is concentrated WAAAYYY at the top and there is a huge wealth gap. Wages climb much more slowly than inflation and costs of living.\nBut they see taxation as theft and social welfare as \"handouts,\" but maybe fewer people would need handouts if the system wasn't so goddamn tilted towards the rich and powerful.\nThis same Andy Ogles guy, when asked if he opposed abortion exceptions for rape victims, said that those cases weren't part of the conversation \"statistically.\" Statisticslly they are part of the conversation because lots of us are talking about it motherfucker! Also, we have tons of sexual assault cases in the US in part because officials like Andy Ogles keep the focus on controlling women and blaming the issue on gays and trans people instead of actually buying a society where rape isn't tolerated.",
">\n\nIt’s only about 30,000 women per year that are confronted with that situation. Hardly worth mentioning, right? /s",
">\n\nBoomers on Medicare voting these ghouls back in.",
">\n\nBlue collar workers going against their best interest, just another week being a republican i guess",
">\n\nFolks, do not vote for the GOP. We will all be homeless under their tutelage.",
">\n\nClassic GOP, always looking for ways to increase mortality rates in their voting base.",
">\n\nWhat’s awesome is the senate doesn’t have to pass it and Biden doesn’t have to sign it. This is political theater for their base, just like reading things “into the record” and using it for campaign messaging.",
">\n\nThe GOP wants to take medicine away from your grandma",
">\n\nOrrr we use the money they’ve made from insider trading and refund the program",
">\n\nRepublicans: Fuck working people.\nAlso Republicans: We didn’t hear a thank you.",
">\n\nI really wonder why the whoever picks hate Americans?",
">\n\nWhile they give themselves a raise",
">\n\nWhich is exactly what they intend. To finance more tax cuts for the super rich.",
">\n\nDid we expect any different?",
">\n\nCall their fucking bluff let them do it.",
">\n\nThe party that loves to see people suffer.",
">\n\nIf Republicans do it, make them do it now. Not wait 10 years for their voters to be dead. Idiots need to feel the consequences of their hatred.",
">\n\nTotal up all the Medicare and Social Security funding stored in flexible medical health spending post limited reimbursement dependent deductible savings purpose account arrangement ... tax avoidance/deferment products over the last 3 decades and let's see where we're at. By intent, purpose, and design.",
">\n\nWildly unpopular. But sure, go ahead 🙄",
">\n\nI feel like I’ve read this headline, and these comments, way too many times",
">\n\njust remember middle class - that hand in your pocket is always republican in one way or another. the republican death panels are coming for you.",
">\n\nThey're literally killing us.",
">\n\nI sincerely hope that every Republican voter gets to live in a country solely controlled by the GOP. I don’t want to be in that country, but I’d love to see them flounder.",
">\n\nThat’s just texas",
">\n\nVote it down.",
">\n\nThere would be anarchy in the streets of this country if they dare to make significant alterations in Medicare. Who are they listening to? Totally appalling if they allow this.",
">\n\nI used to believe that the people in power make bad choices like this on a case to case basis. In this case, I would assume they’re slashing Medicare because of “fiscal responsibility” or whatever. The plain truth, however, is rather obvious now. All of these choices are all related… to drive and strengthen the growth of a population of sick, uneducated and poor, in other words, desperate people. The capitalist powers that be, be they the politicians or their silent oligarch masters, have never before had so much to gain from a labor surplus of this scale. When the people at the bottom are fighting each other like rats over scraps just to survive, the people in the 1% are struggling with existential issues like “Will my private rocket company beat the other guys private rocket company to the moon?”. Meanwhile, the friction of our infighting approaches an ignition point as the landed gentry hoses us down with the gasoline of identity politics, Christian nationalism and the feAr oF sOciAliSm. This is late stage capitalism and it’s going to eat us up all the same regardless of your political ideology.",
">\n\nWhy waste time, money and effort on a bill that is destined to fail either in the senate or on Biden’s desk? That’s not governance",
">\n\n\ndo better, TN-5\n\nthat'll tell um",
">\n\nThey seem to love writing bills that have no chance of being enacted, just to score points with their idiot base.",
">\n\nThe GOP loves to ruin lives.",
">\n\nThis whitehouse is not to be trusted. Lies by the hour"
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It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.
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Would an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season."
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Yes, absolutely.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?"
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Not sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely."
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There's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not "districts", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.
That or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.
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[
"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court."
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To give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the "general court" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.
Each of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.
Edit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits."
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Yeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate "administrative court" that checks the executive; the US has "administrative law judges" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic "we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing" mentality.
US should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights."
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This seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.
So variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.
Ideally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.
Also, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all.
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[
"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents."
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something best dealt with through appeals processes
One of the cases brought by Paxton was around Biden's Title 42 repeal. A single-judge district decided the case quickly, blocking Biden from repealing an executive order of the former president. It took the Supreme Court ruling in the summer of 2022 to overturn that Trump judge's initial ruling in early 2021. For over a year, the Biden admin was hand-tied on an immigration policy because of this.
That's more than 25% of the president's term taken from them over a single judge. The appeals process is slow and frankly, the ruling should have never been made in the first place.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.",
">\n\nThis seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.\nSo variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.\nIdeally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.\nAlso, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all."
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More judges. There are already systems that allow judges to hear cases in different districts, which are pretty much a bandaid on the real problem.
The Senate shouldn't be allowed to sit on nominations, the problem starts where the process starts. There should be a time frame for them to approve, and if they miss it, it would go to that district/circuits current judges to approve.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.",
">\n\nThis seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.\nSo variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.\nIdeally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.\nAlso, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all.",
">\n\n\nsomething best dealt with through appeals processes\n\nOne of the cases brought by Paxton was around Biden's Title 42 repeal. A single-judge district decided the case quickly, blocking Biden from repealing an executive order of the former president. It took the Supreme Court ruling in the summer of 2022 to overturn that Trump judge's initial ruling in early 2021. For over a year, the Biden admin was hand-tied on an immigration policy because of this.\nThat's more than 25% of the president's term taken from them over a single judge. The appeals process is slow and frankly, the ruling should have never been made in the first place."
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but could just as easily be used by Democrats against a future Republican president
Maybe you weren't aware but this has already happened during Trumps years. The left would go Judge shopping in California, New York and Washington the state.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.",
">\n\nThis seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.\nSo variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.\nIdeally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.\nAlso, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all.",
">\n\n\nsomething best dealt with through appeals processes\n\nOne of the cases brought by Paxton was around Biden's Title 42 repeal. A single-judge district decided the case quickly, blocking Biden from repealing an executive order of the former president. It took the Supreme Court ruling in the summer of 2022 to overturn that Trump judge's initial ruling in early 2021. For over a year, the Biden admin was hand-tied on an immigration policy because of this.\nThat's more than 25% of the president's term taken from them over a single judge. The appeals process is slow and frankly, the ruling should have never been made in the first place.",
">\n\nMore judges. There are already systems that allow judges to hear cases in different districts, which are pretty much a bandaid on the real problem.\nThe Senate shouldn't be allowed to sit on nominations, the problem starts where the process starts. There should be a time frame for them to approve, and if they miss it, it would go to that district/circuits current judges to approve."
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Those 3 states don't have single-judge districts, so this didn't happen. You're conflating simply suing in any court with picking a court with 1 judge presiding over it who is a friendly and suing in that particular court.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.",
">\n\nThis seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.\nSo variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.\nIdeally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.\nAlso, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all.",
">\n\n\nsomething best dealt with through appeals processes\n\nOne of the cases brought by Paxton was around Biden's Title 42 repeal. A single-judge district decided the case quickly, blocking Biden from repealing an executive order of the former president. It took the Supreme Court ruling in the summer of 2022 to overturn that Trump judge's initial ruling in early 2021. For over a year, the Biden admin was hand-tied on an immigration policy because of this.\nThat's more than 25% of the president's term taken from them over a single judge. The appeals process is slow and frankly, the ruling should have never been made in the first place.",
">\n\nMore judges. There are already systems that allow judges to hear cases in different districts, which are pretty much a bandaid on the real problem.\nThe Senate shouldn't be allowed to sit on nominations, the problem starts where the process starts. There should be a time frame for them to approve, and if they miss it, it would go to that district/circuits current judges to approve.",
">\n\n\nbut could just as easily be used by Democrats against a future Republican president\n\nMaybe you weren't aware but this has already happened during Trumps years. The left would go Judge shopping in California, New York and Washington the state."
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What's the fundamental difference? If they go to districts in the 9th Circuit knowing they're going have have better than average odds and a friendly appeals court, they're still deliberately choosing venues to maximize their chance of winning and having it upheld at least until SCOTUS.
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.",
">\n\nThis seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.\nSo variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.\nIdeally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.\nAlso, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all.",
">\n\n\nsomething best dealt with through appeals processes\n\nOne of the cases brought by Paxton was around Biden's Title 42 repeal. A single-judge district decided the case quickly, blocking Biden from repealing an executive order of the former president. It took the Supreme Court ruling in the summer of 2022 to overturn that Trump judge's initial ruling in early 2021. For over a year, the Biden admin was hand-tied on an immigration policy because of this.\nThat's more than 25% of the president's term taken from them over a single judge. The appeals process is slow and frankly, the ruling should have never been made in the first place.",
">\n\nMore judges. There are already systems that allow judges to hear cases in different districts, which are pretty much a bandaid on the real problem.\nThe Senate shouldn't be allowed to sit on nominations, the problem starts where the process starts. There should be a time frame for them to approve, and if they miss it, it would go to that district/circuits current judges to approve.",
">\n\n\nbut could just as easily be used by Democrats against a future Republican president\n\nMaybe you weren't aware but this has already happened during Trumps years. The left would go Judge shopping in California, New York and Washington the state.",
">\n\nThose 3 states don't have single-judge districts, so this didn't happen. You're conflating simply suing in any court with picking a court with 1 judge presiding over it who is a friendly and suing in that particular court."
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You don’t understand the difference between 100% and <50%?
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.",
">\n\nThis seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.\nSo variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.\nIdeally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.\nAlso, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all.",
">\n\n\nsomething best dealt with through appeals processes\n\nOne of the cases brought by Paxton was around Biden's Title 42 repeal. A single-judge district decided the case quickly, blocking Biden from repealing an executive order of the former president. It took the Supreme Court ruling in the summer of 2022 to overturn that Trump judge's initial ruling in early 2021. For over a year, the Biden admin was hand-tied on an immigration policy because of this.\nThat's more than 25% of the president's term taken from them over a single judge. The appeals process is slow and frankly, the ruling should have never been made in the first place.",
">\n\nMore judges. There are already systems that allow judges to hear cases in different districts, which are pretty much a bandaid on the real problem.\nThe Senate shouldn't be allowed to sit on nominations, the problem starts where the process starts. There should be a time frame for them to approve, and if they miss it, it would go to that district/circuits current judges to approve.",
">\n\n\nbut could just as easily be used by Democrats against a future Republican president\n\nMaybe you weren't aware but this has already happened during Trumps years. The left would go Judge shopping in California, New York and Washington the state.",
">\n\nThose 3 states don't have single-judge districts, so this didn't happen. You're conflating simply suing in any court with picking a court with 1 judge presiding over it who is a friendly and suing in that particular court.",
">\n\nWhat's the fundamental difference? If they go to districts in the 9th Circuit knowing they're going have have better than average odds and a friendly appeals court, they're still deliberately choosing venues to maximize their chance of winning and having it upheld at least until SCOTUS."
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"It’s a problem. Anyone who wants to block a new policy can bring any number of suits to any number of judges — you only have to find one judge who agrees with you. There’s no sport in the world in which 1-30 constitutes a winning season.",
">\n\nWould an example of this be the student loan forgiveness Biden signed which was ultimately blocked by a single federal judge?",
">\n\nYes, absolutely.",
">\n\nNot sure how it could be implemented, but maybe you just shouldn't be able to choose where to file a complaint if it's not solely affecting that jurisdiction? Like, if the complaint is concerning a national matter, it should be arbitrarily assigned to a random federal court.",
">\n\nThere's actually things like the US Federal Circuit, which is a specialized circuit that only hears appeals on certain cases regarding the federal government. It could probably make sense to create an analogous jurisdiction of trial courts that are not \"districts\", but rather designated courts of first hearing on such matters.\nThat or you just let whatever district courts have first hearing but remove appellate jurisdiction away from the regional circuits.",
">\n\nTo give an example how this can work. This is the system that exists in Germany. We have here 5 different branches of courts, the \"general court\" for civil and criminal matters, the labour courts, the governmental courts for all general lawsuits against the government, the financial court for everything taxes, and the social courts for everything social security.\nEach of these courts have their own court buildings, their own districts, their own judges, and exist independent next to each other.\nEdit: Also, these kind of injunctions, because they come from a state instead of a private citizen, would probably not be handled at these levels, but there would be a call to the constitutional court (our version of supreme court) right away, because it would involve a conflict of state vs. federal rights.",
">\n\nYeah exactly - the funny thing is that most countries like Germany, Austria, etc all have a separate \"administrative court\" that checks the executive; the US has \"administrative law judges\" as Article I courts but they are - for arguably ludicrous reasons - considered part of the executive branch; just like the inspector generals, and the classic \"we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing\" mentality.\nUS should make all Article I judges into magistrate-adjacents.",
">\n\nThis seems like something best dealt with through appeals processes and preliminary injunctions of various sorts. The courts are supposed to rule the same way as each other when presented with the same facts and arguments; of course they do not do so in fact, but that is the ostensible goal.\nSo variations attributable to judges should be avoided by the relevant appeals courts in each area making sure the judges under it follow standard patterns; and by enjoining the lower courts rulings and injunctions on as necessary basis. Then of course the Supreme court ensures that each appeals court is following that process.\nIdeally we should also have a system for monitoring the extent to which various judges are overturned on appeal in various ways, particularly when their injunctions are overturned. With perhasp some sort of consequences for judges with persistently erroneous rulings.\nAlso, Ken Paxton should've been disbarred by now; if it were up to me I'd have denied him access to the federal bench at all.",
">\n\n\nsomething best dealt with through appeals processes\n\nOne of the cases brought by Paxton was around Biden's Title 42 repeal. A single-judge district decided the case quickly, blocking Biden from repealing an executive order of the former president. It took the Supreme Court ruling in the summer of 2022 to overturn that Trump judge's initial ruling in early 2021. For over a year, the Biden admin was hand-tied on an immigration policy because of this.\nThat's more than 25% of the president's term taken from them over a single judge. The appeals process is slow and frankly, the ruling should have never been made in the first place.",
">\n\nMore judges. There are already systems that allow judges to hear cases in different districts, which are pretty much a bandaid on the real problem.\nThe Senate shouldn't be allowed to sit on nominations, the problem starts where the process starts. There should be a time frame for them to approve, and if they miss it, it would go to that district/circuits current judges to approve.",
">\n\n\nbut could just as easily be used by Democrats against a future Republican president\n\nMaybe you weren't aware but this has already happened during Trumps years. The left would go Judge shopping in California, New York and Washington the state.",
">\n\nThose 3 states don't have single-judge districts, so this didn't happen. You're conflating simply suing in any court with picking a court with 1 judge presiding over it who is a friendly and suing in that particular court.",
">\n\nWhat's the fundamental difference? If they go to districts in the 9th Circuit knowing they're going have have better than average odds and a friendly appeals court, they're still deliberately choosing venues to maximize their chance of winning and having it upheld at least until SCOTUS.",
">\n\nYou don’t understand the difference between 100% and <50%?"
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