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I've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous "recommend a friend to file" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race.
I've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?"
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That’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far."
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A good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed."
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Yep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source"
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I could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.
The amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT."
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I am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V
Edit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious."
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of the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS"
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“Working as intended”
-The American Oligarchy.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money."
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That is by design. The same with the National Stage.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy."
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Being a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage."
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Working as intended I see
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?"
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I won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.
THIS IS THE WAY.
But it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.
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[
"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see"
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More like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.
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[
"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry."
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State legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run
Citizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.
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[
"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so."
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Lie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.
It works for the Republicans.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run."
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It takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans."
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Yet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).
I had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run."
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I have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.
The current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running."
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Interesting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M."
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The problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.
Wealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018."
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Want more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?
Well, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it."
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Opportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level"
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There can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where "just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time."
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Young people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude, young people on average have 2 jobs and can't afford housing. You do not have a grasp on what life is like in America if you think the biggest problem getting Young people into politics is laziness and antiestablishmentarianism. Volunteering takes time that young people don't have due to working an incredible amount. Everything you say requires a place of financial privilage that frankly most young people don't have. I'm an elder millennial and when I was in my 20s I consistently had two jobs, one full time (50 hrs a week, no overtime bc it was commission based) and one part time up to another 30 hours. I've regularly put in close to 100 hrs in a work week and still not been able to afford food and housing. When you're worried about getting food or not getting evicted, there are more pressing issues than volunteering for a political office with low to no pay.
Young people also don't necessarily oppose party establishment. A lot of older people in local politics especially are very condescending and want to tell us that their outdated opinions of how things are as if it's fact, instead of listening to our actual lived experiences and changing their perspectives. If older people gave more credence to the issues working young people face every day and then accommodated those issues by making political involvement more financially accessible, not nearly as many young people would stay politically stagnant. If you don't remove accessibility hurdles, you can't ascribe the blame to other issues.
ETA: I interpreted "lower rates of employment" as "working less". If you're referring to the percentage of young people in the workforce, that's mainly lower overall due to young people pursuing education, but also bc older people are staying in the work force longer and taking up jobs that young people would normally do. The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old. As for working in general, young people tend to put in more work hours a week and have less time to themselves, and therefore work more hours than we historically have. Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.",
">\n\nThere can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where \"just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way\" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle"
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Young people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude
Yes, that is the case. It's a long term trend too
Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.
I mean, younger workers are also more likely to work for fewer hours compared to older folks
The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old
What in tarnation?
Social security isn't even solvent as it currently is! And if anything, some cuts will be needed to make it solvent. The idea of spending even more on that is fiscally irresponsible and spalling
Like it or not but there's a real demographic issue occuring. While longevity has plateaued somewhat, people are still living for much longer than they loved when Social Security was established, thus spending more and more time in the unproductive stage of retirement where they are a burden fiscally. And to bear that burden, there's a smaller and smaller amount of younger folks, with birthrates declining more and more, and with little clarity regarding how to turn birthrate declines around (other countries have tried making childcare more affordable, and stuff like that, but it hasn't had much impact - it may be that people just don't want as many kids as in the past regardless of cost issues). None of this means social security is some "ponzi scheme" that must be abolished, as some on the right and libertarians like to say, but it does mean that some big changes are needed even just to keep it afloat with status quo benefits, and the idea of expanding benefits may be popular among populists but just doesn't hash out unless we want to go into some sort of Modern Monetary Theory hyperinflation wave or something
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.",
">\n\nThere can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where \"just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way\" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle",
">\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude, young people on average have 2 jobs and can't afford housing. You do not have a grasp on what life is like in America if you think the biggest problem getting Young people into politics is laziness and antiestablishmentarianism. Volunteering takes time that young people don't have due to working an incredible amount. Everything you say requires a place of financial privilage that frankly most young people don't have. I'm an elder millennial and when I was in my 20s I consistently had two jobs, one full time (50 hrs a week, no overtime bc it was commission based) and one part time up to another 30 hours. I've regularly put in close to 100 hrs in a work week and still not been able to afford food and housing. When you're worried about getting food or not getting evicted, there are more pressing issues than volunteering for a political office with low to no pay. \nYoung people also don't necessarily oppose party establishment. A lot of older people in local politics especially are very condescending and want to tell us that their outdated opinions of how things are as if it's fact, instead of listening to our actual lived experiences and changing their perspectives. If older people gave more credence to the issues working young people face every day and then accommodated those issues by making political involvement more financially accessible, not nearly as many young people would stay politically stagnant. If you don't remove accessibility hurdles, you can't ascribe the blame to other issues.\nETA: I interpreted \"lower rates of employment\" as \"working less\". If you're referring to the percentage of young people in the workforce, that's mainly lower overall due to young people pursuing education, but also bc older people are staying in the work force longer and taking up jobs that young people would normally do. The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old. As for working in general, young people tend to put in more work hours a week and have less time to themselves, and therefore work more hours than we historically have. Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee."
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No shit.
They designed it to be that way.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.",
">\n\nThere can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where \"just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way\" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle",
">\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude, young people on average have 2 jobs and can't afford housing. You do not have a grasp on what life is like in America if you think the biggest problem getting Young people into politics is laziness and antiestablishmentarianism. Volunteering takes time that young people don't have due to working an incredible amount. Everything you say requires a place of financial privilage that frankly most young people don't have. I'm an elder millennial and when I was in my 20s I consistently had two jobs, one full time (50 hrs a week, no overtime bc it was commission based) and one part time up to another 30 hours. I've regularly put in close to 100 hrs in a work week and still not been able to afford food and housing. When you're worried about getting food or not getting evicted, there are more pressing issues than volunteering for a political office with low to no pay. \nYoung people also don't necessarily oppose party establishment. A lot of older people in local politics especially are very condescending and want to tell us that their outdated opinions of how things are as if it's fact, instead of listening to our actual lived experiences and changing their perspectives. If older people gave more credence to the issues working young people face every day and then accommodated those issues by making political involvement more financially accessible, not nearly as many young people would stay politically stagnant. If you don't remove accessibility hurdles, you can't ascribe the blame to other issues.\nETA: I interpreted \"lower rates of employment\" as \"working less\". If you're referring to the percentage of young people in the workforce, that's mainly lower overall due to young people pursuing education, but also bc older people are staying in the work force longer and taking up jobs that young people would normally do. The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old. As for working in general, young people tend to put in more work hours a week and have less time to themselves, and therefore work more hours than we historically have. Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.",
">\n\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude\n\nYes, that is the case. It's a long term trend too\n\nLower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.\n\nI mean, younger workers are also more likely to work for fewer hours compared to older folks\n\nThe solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old\n\nWhat in tarnation?\nSocial security isn't even solvent as it currently is! And if anything, some cuts will be needed to make it solvent. The idea of spending even more on that is fiscally irresponsible and spalling\nLike it or not but there's a real demographic issue occuring. While longevity has plateaued somewhat, people are still living for much longer than they loved when Social Security was established, thus spending more and more time in the unproductive stage of retirement where they are a burden fiscally. And to bear that burden, there's a smaller and smaller amount of younger folks, with birthrates declining more and more, and with little clarity regarding how to turn birthrate declines around (other countries have tried making childcare more affordable, and stuff like that, but it hasn't had much impact - it may be that people just don't want as many kids as in the past regardless of cost issues). None of this means social security is some \"ponzi scheme\" that must be abolished, as some on the right and libertarians like to say, but it does mean that some big changes are needed even just to keep it afloat with status quo benefits, and the idea of expanding benefits may be popular among populists but just doesn't hash out unless we want to go into some sort of Modern Monetary Theory hyperinflation wave or something"
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The us political facade is essentially just a game organized, funded and watched over by the american corporations.
If a politician doesnt pledge their allegiance to their owners, the owners simply dont pay the “league fees” for that politician to participate in the game that year, and they go and find another player who will.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.",
">\n\nThere can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where \"just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way\" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle",
">\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude, young people on average have 2 jobs and can't afford housing. You do not have a grasp on what life is like in America if you think the biggest problem getting Young people into politics is laziness and antiestablishmentarianism. Volunteering takes time that young people don't have due to working an incredible amount. Everything you say requires a place of financial privilage that frankly most young people don't have. I'm an elder millennial and when I was in my 20s I consistently had two jobs, one full time (50 hrs a week, no overtime bc it was commission based) and one part time up to another 30 hours. I've regularly put in close to 100 hrs in a work week and still not been able to afford food and housing. When you're worried about getting food or not getting evicted, there are more pressing issues than volunteering for a political office with low to no pay. \nYoung people also don't necessarily oppose party establishment. A lot of older people in local politics especially are very condescending and want to tell us that their outdated opinions of how things are as if it's fact, instead of listening to our actual lived experiences and changing their perspectives. If older people gave more credence to the issues working young people face every day and then accommodated those issues by making political involvement more financially accessible, not nearly as many young people would stay politically stagnant. If you don't remove accessibility hurdles, you can't ascribe the blame to other issues.\nETA: I interpreted \"lower rates of employment\" as \"working less\". If you're referring to the percentage of young people in the workforce, that's mainly lower overall due to young people pursuing education, but also bc older people are staying in the work force longer and taking up jobs that young people would normally do. The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old. As for working in general, young people tend to put in more work hours a week and have less time to themselves, and therefore work more hours than we historically have. Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.",
">\n\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude\n\nYes, that is the case. It's a long term trend too\n\nLower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.\n\nI mean, younger workers are also more likely to work for fewer hours compared to older folks\n\nThe solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old\n\nWhat in tarnation?\nSocial security isn't even solvent as it currently is! And if anything, some cuts will be needed to make it solvent. The idea of spending even more on that is fiscally irresponsible and spalling\nLike it or not but there's a real demographic issue occuring. While longevity has plateaued somewhat, people are still living for much longer than they loved when Social Security was established, thus spending more and more time in the unproductive stage of retirement where they are a burden fiscally. And to bear that burden, there's a smaller and smaller amount of younger folks, with birthrates declining more and more, and with little clarity regarding how to turn birthrate declines around (other countries have tried making childcare more affordable, and stuff like that, but it hasn't had much impact - it may be that people just don't want as many kids as in the past regardless of cost issues). None of this means social security is some \"ponzi scheme\" that must be abolished, as some on the right and libertarians like to say, but it does mean that some big changes are needed even just to keep it afloat with status quo benefits, and the idea of expanding benefits may be popular among populists but just doesn't hash out unless we want to go into some sort of Modern Monetary Theory hyperinflation wave or something",
">\n\nNo shit.\nThey designed it to be that way."
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Politics is a career for well-to-do retirees, very successful business owners, and the independently wealthy.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.",
">\n\nThere can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where \"just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way\" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle",
">\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude, young people on average have 2 jobs and can't afford housing. You do not have a grasp on what life is like in America if you think the biggest problem getting Young people into politics is laziness and antiestablishmentarianism. Volunteering takes time that young people don't have due to working an incredible amount. Everything you say requires a place of financial privilage that frankly most young people don't have. I'm an elder millennial and when I was in my 20s I consistently had two jobs, one full time (50 hrs a week, no overtime bc it was commission based) and one part time up to another 30 hours. I've regularly put in close to 100 hrs in a work week and still not been able to afford food and housing. When you're worried about getting food or not getting evicted, there are more pressing issues than volunteering for a political office with low to no pay. \nYoung people also don't necessarily oppose party establishment. A lot of older people in local politics especially are very condescending and want to tell us that their outdated opinions of how things are as if it's fact, instead of listening to our actual lived experiences and changing their perspectives. If older people gave more credence to the issues working young people face every day and then accommodated those issues by making political involvement more financially accessible, not nearly as many young people would stay politically stagnant. If you don't remove accessibility hurdles, you can't ascribe the blame to other issues.\nETA: I interpreted \"lower rates of employment\" as \"working less\". If you're referring to the percentage of young people in the workforce, that's mainly lower overall due to young people pursuing education, but also bc older people are staying in the work force longer and taking up jobs that young people would normally do. The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old. As for working in general, young people tend to put in more work hours a week and have less time to themselves, and therefore work more hours than we historically have. Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.",
">\n\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude\n\nYes, that is the case. It's a long term trend too\n\nLower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.\n\nI mean, younger workers are also more likely to work for fewer hours compared to older folks\n\nThe solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old\n\nWhat in tarnation?\nSocial security isn't even solvent as it currently is! And if anything, some cuts will be needed to make it solvent. The idea of spending even more on that is fiscally irresponsible and spalling\nLike it or not but there's a real demographic issue occuring. While longevity has plateaued somewhat, people are still living for much longer than they loved when Social Security was established, thus spending more and more time in the unproductive stage of retirement where they are a burden fiscally. And to bear that burden, there's a smaller and smaller amount of younger folks, with birthrates declining more and more, and with little clarity regarding how to turn birthrate declines around (other countries have tried making childcare more affordable, and stuff like that, but it hasn't had much impact - it may be that people just don't want as many kids as in the past regardless of cost issues). None of this means social security is some \"ponzi scheme\" that must be abolished, as some on the right and libertarians like to say, but it does mean that some big changes are needed even just to keep it afloat with status quo benefits, and the idea of expanding benefits may be popular among populists but just doesn't hash out unless we want to go into some sort of Modern Monetary Theory hyperinflation wave or something",
">\n\nNo shit.\nThey designed it to be that way.",
">\n\nThe us political facade is essentially just a game organized, funded and watched over by the american corporations.\nIf a politician doesnt pledge their allegiance to their owners, the owners simply dont pay the “league fees” for that politician to participate in the game that year, and they go and find another player who will."
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Given politics is all about character assault, I’d think part of the problem is younger generations have grown up with a phone in their hand since birth and have documented all kinds of stupid shit for the world to see. I know I’m glad the stupidity of my youth is a fading memory rather than a YouTube video.
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.",
">\n\nThere can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where \"just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way\" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle",
">\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude, young people on average have 2 jobs and can't afford housing. You do not have a grasp on what life is like in America if you think the biggest problem getting Young people into politics is laziness and antiestablishmentarianism. Volunteering takes time that young people don't have due to working an incredible amount. Everything you say requires a place of financial privilage that frankly most young people don't have. I'm an elder millennial and when I was in my 20s I consistently had two jobs, one full time (50 hrs a week, no overtime bc it was commission based) and one part time up to another 30 hours. I've regularly put in close to 100 hrs in a work week and still not been able to afford food and housing. When you're worried about getting food or not getting evicted, there are more pressing issues than volunteering for a political office with low to no pay. \nYoung people also don't necessarily oppose party establishment. A lot of older people in local politics especially are very condescending and want to tell us that their outdated opinions of how things are as if it's fact, instead of listening to our actual lived experiences and changing their perspectives. If older people gave more credence to the issues working young people face every day and then accommodated those issues by making political involvement more financially accessible, not nearly as many young people would stay politically stagnant. If you don't remove accessibility hurdles, you can't ascribe the blame to other issues.\nETA: I interpreted \"lower rates of employment\" as \"working less\". If you're referring to the percentage of young people in the workforce, that's mainly lower overall due to young people pursuing education, but also bc older people are staying in the work force longer and taking up jobs that young people would normally do. The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old. As for working in general, young people tend to put in more work hours a week and have less time to themselves, and therefore work more hours than we historically have. Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.",
">\n\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude\n\nYes, that is the case. It's a long term trend too\n\nLower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.\n\nI mean, younger workers are also more likely to work for fewer hours compared to older folks\n\nThe solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old\n\nWhat in tarnation?\nSocial security isn't even solvent as it currently is! And if anything, some cuts will be needed to make it solvent. The idea of spending even more on that is fiscally irresponsible and spalling\nLike it or not but there's a real demographic issue occuring. While longevity has plateaued somewhat, people are still living for much longer than they loved when Social Security was established, thus spending more and more time in the unproductive stage of retirement where they are a burden fiscally. And to bear that burden, there's a smaller and smaller amount of younger folks, with birthrates declining more and more, and with little clarity regarding how to turn birthrate declines around (other countries have tried making childcare more affordable, and stuff like that, but it hasn't had much impact - it may be that people just don't want as many kids as in the past regardless of cost issues). None of this means social security is some \"ponzi scheme\" that must be abolished, as some on the right and libertarians like to say, but it does mean that some big changes are needed even just to keep it afloat with status quo benefits, and the idea of expanding benefits may be popular among populists but just doesn't hash out unless we want to go into some sort of Modern Monetary Theory hyperinflation wave or something",
">\n\nNo shit.\nThey designed it to be that way.",
">\n\nThe us political facade is essentially just a game organized, funded and watched over by the american corporations.\nIf a politician doesnt pledge their allegiance to their owners, the owners simply dont pay the “league fees” for that politician to participate in the game that year, and they go and find another player who will.",
">\n\nPolitics is a career for well-to-do retirees, very successful business owners, and the independently wealthy."
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"It's because they can't afford to run or live off the income. Most local and town government elected positions, which would be stepping stones to state legislatures and beyond, are part time and pay little to nothing which requires you to hold a full time job on the side. I would love the opportunity to help run my community, but I can't afford it. This opens the door to the already rich, or... concessions to donors who are paying for their vote. It doesn't help that we as a society have been brainwashed to believe politicians are overpaid, so we vote against any politician who supports pay raises, which leaves us with those who don't need the money in charge.",
">\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\nThat's not a living wage, especially with the need to live in your district while also spending six months every two years in Austin. At the same time, good luck leaving your day job for six months every other year to go serve in the legislature. \nIt's basically a system designed to make it impossible for a normal person to serve in the legislature, even if they could somehow get elected.",
">\n\n\nTexas' state legislature meets every other year from early January to late May. Pay for a full two year term in the legislature is $45,000 ($22,500/yr).\n\nWhere are you getting this number? I'm seeing it come up here as median House chamber salary, but that's for staffers and not members. NCSL has base legislative pay for Texas at an even lower $7.2k a term, although the $221/day per-diem does bring that up to a bit under $30k (assuming no special sessions in that 2 year period and that the per-diem isn't paid for weekends).\nBut at least their mileage reimbursement clause has a separate line for aircraft fuel. Lol.",
">\n\nAh, I Googled in a hurry and may have misinterpreted. My bad, thanks for the correction. \nThe overall point still stands - hell, even worse, I'm not sure I'd be willing to go to Austin and listen to our political leaders run their mouths off for six months at a mere $7,200.",
">\n\nFrom column:\nLast November, America elected its first Gen Z member of Congress: 25-year-old Maxwell Frost of Florida. Frost is a natural on social media, and his presence in the halls of power makes Congress feel a bit more relatable for Americans in my age group. \nRecently, the congressman-elect struck a nerve on Twitter when he shared his trouble finding an apartment in D.C. due to his accumulated debt and a poor credit score. That’s relatable, too. \nAbout five years ago, I sat in my college dorm room and heard President Obama tell the nation that if we were disappointed in our elected officials, we should “grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office” ourselves. I did just that and defeated an opponent who had been in office for longer than I had been alive. \nNearly every week, I get a call from a young person who is thinking about taking the same leap of faith I did. I share the story of how I hired my college roommate as my campaign manager, and how we helped break a tie between parties in the state senate. I tell them that I had the chance to enact free community college, and today thousands of students are pursuing a degree that they otherwise would not have been able to afford. I talk about fighting to lower housing costs as the only renter in the senate, and writing a new law to electrify school buses, remembering the diesel exhaust from the school bus I rode not too long ago. \nBut when young candidates ask me how to afford a campaign, I don’t have any good answers.\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office. \nOur country needs young policymakers. Gen Z lawmakers know what it feels like to participate in a school shooter drill, so we fight with urgency for stronger gun regulations. We know how difficult it is to afford a degree in the 21st century, so we push for student debt relief. But most young people can’t afford to run for office, and almost none can afford to win.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did. \nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nYes, the amount of boomer stories about “I started this mega company out of a van” etc. are always around. Try that now and if ton don’t get immediately squashed by an existing firm the city will probably fine you for not having the proper premises or something.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of like some people picking up guitars and becoming rock stars, just a less extreme outlier.",
">\n\nnow you need Disney to run promo and auto tune for you...",
">\n\nThis is by design. They don’t want young people to VOTE let alone run for office.",
">\n\nIt's not even just young people. They don't want average people running. That's why the system is designed such that corporate America has to purchase candidates via donations.\nWhat we need is a complete nationwide public campaign financing system that's fair, equal, and has no strings attached to policy stances or any other criteria. It should be completely abstracted away from the candidates.\nDon't ask me who would pay for it... or how. I don't know (maybe ask Connecticut?). But that's what we'd have if we want fair equal elections rather than a choice of candidates backed by corporate America rather than ordinary people.",
">\n\nIf we implemented national campaign finance and election advertising rules, we wouldn’t have to pay for it. Elections cost a fucking fortune in this country, and most of it goes to ad buys. If we get campaign commercials off the airwaves (please dear god), people will have to elect politicians based on the issues and their platforms. We just need to make platform info readily available, and it can be largely summed up in a handout at the voting place. We could save ten billion dollars every election cycle (more on Presidential race years) by doing this.",
">\n\nSo, the country that began by only allowing property owning white males to vote is continuing as designed?",
">\n\nI've been told I should run for something, both in-person and through an anonymous \"recommend a friend to file\" tool RunForSomething runs (which is a great org. for helping young first-time candidates get elected). Ignoring my other significant hesitations about the idea, the fundraising commitment necessary - as someone who has previously done campaign fundraising work - is daunting even for a schoolboard or city council race. \nI've got a pretty sizable network (relative to a GenZ-er who has never been politically involved before) and I'm still not confident I'd be able to raise enough to keep parity with more financially-established candidates for schoolboard or council, let alone the state legislature. Sure, volunteers supporting you with their time can help close that gap somewhat, but it only goes so far.",
">\n\nThat’s a super interesting site! Thanks for sharing. My (HCOL) state pays senators $43,000/yr with $45/day per diem. Would actually love to do something like that, but I’d need to make an additional 45-50k a year to bring me to my current income, which already barely covers my life after taxes, healthcare, 401k, mortgage, utilities, car, food, CCs, emergency fund, etc. I’m in a single income situation so I’d be fully doomed.",
">\n\nA good amount of red states pay their state representatives under 30K a year and some under 15K a year. This is entirely to prevent anyone but the independently wealthy from being able to afford to serve.\n-Source",
">\n\nYep. For a lot of the state legislators I know here in AZ it's a second job they work concurrent with their main one. One of the representatives in my old House district sometimes heads straight from a full day's work at the legislature to a night shift as an EMT.",
">\n\nI could afford to run but I'm not sure I could afford to lose.\nThe amount of time and energy running for office would require would absolutely require me to quit my job if I was serious.",
">\n\nI am interested in running for my state Congress but I'm broke :V\nEdit: wouldn't help that it would be a very conservative area in KS",
">\n\nof the people with money, by the people with money, for the people with money.",
">\n\n“Working as intended”\n-The American Oligarchy.",
">\n\nThat is by design. The same with the National Stage.",
">\n\nBeing a mayor in the city I live in pays 13,500$/y. Last election cycle the eventual winner spent 22,000,000$ in campaign money to win. How can any “regular Jane/Joe” ever hope to compete with that?",
">\n\nWorking as intended I see",
">\n\n\nI won because of Connecticut’s public financing system that puts 22-year-old candidates on an equal playing field with 22-year incumbents. But most states don’t publicly finance their elections, meaning candidates turn to their personal bank accounts or wealthy networks in order to afford television ads, lawn signs, campaign staff and the myriad of other expenses that come with running a successful campaign. Those expenses lock too many people my age out of office.\n\nTHIS IS THE WAY.\nBut it will never happen because most federal and state elections in the US are a billions of dollars a years industry.",
">\n\nMore like those who can afford to run aren't stupid enough to to do so.",
">\n\n\nState legislatures need more young people, but most can’t afford to run\n\nCitizens United decision by the US SC plays a big role in excluding the younger people from getting a fair shot at running. On the surface it may be neutral, however, the end result is that unless you are poodle for some billionaire, you cannot afford to run.",
">\n\nLie about everything and take money from hostile foriegn oligarchs.\nIt works for the Republicans.",
">\n\nIt takes $35K to run for Prez. So, yea running for office is for upper middle class and upper class only. Just like an oligarchy, I mean Democracy should run.",
">\n\nYet it only costs $600 to run for Governor (of Kansas).\nI had looked it up when those High School kids said they were running.",
">\n\nI have no clue where that $35k for President number comes from (filing fees for all 50 states+DC combined?), because to stand any chance of winning the thing you need to tack on at least 3 more 0's to that total re. what your campaign raises directly.\nThe current Kansas gubernatorial filing fee is $2k, but when looking at total cash raised by the R/D nominees in the general we start talking on the scale of millions - Gov. Kelly looks to have raised ~$7.1M total this past cycle in direct contributions, while her GOP challenger Derek Schmidt brought in ~$4M.",
">\n\nInteresting. They increased it since I last looked at it back in 2018.",
">\n\nThe problem is that wealth in our society is like a piñata. We cracked it open in the 50s, and everyone rushed it and took all they could. Now, new generations are showing up trying to collect some but a bunch of boomers are standing on the side with their buckets of candy telling the newcomers they should have worked harder like they did.\nWealth is not unlimited and people hoarding it keeps the rest of us from being able to obtain it.",
">\n\nWant more young people in state legislatures and politics in general?\nWell, young people should get more involved in local politics - stuff like the lowest level, running for town council/school board, etc, or getting involved in party activism with getting out the vote or political campaigns. They can show their worth at the lower levels and work their way up. Cursus honorum and all that, and it makes it easier for such folks to stand out in the eyes of local/state party organs and to get their support. This means that the youngest possible folks aren't going to be in high office, but there's still plenty of opportunities for them to work their way up and still be relatively young by the time they attain higher offices like state legislatures and such. Some folks seem to want to jump right into mid or high level politics, and get frustrated when it's not easy, but there are ways to get to that level",
">\n\nOpportunity doesn't negate cost. Even low- level city positions take a sizeable chunk of money to campaign for, and often have part time salaries. In my hometown, all city council/school board etc type jobs in government pay under $25k/year. This is combined with an economy where many people, especially Gen z, are working 2+ jobs to afford rent with roommates. It's not just about the cost of starting, it's about cost overall when young people are running against wealthy older people with societal connections, and who aren't concerned whether they can pay rent on time.",
">\n\nThere can be some real obstacles. But there can also be various ways to have a decent chance of overcoming those obstacles. Party organizations exist, local party establishment can give support in various ways to younger candidates. Young folks can also do their time volunteering and getting involved in campaign organization and canvassing to stand out with the local party. Also remember that while the elderly have the highest amount of leisure time, leisure time tends to see a nadir in the middle age, and is actually relatively higher in young age, and younger folks also tend to have lower rates of employment, so there can be time there to do stuff like getting involved in local political activism. Also local politics tends to have turnout that is laughably/maddeningly low, so if there's any level of politics where \"just going out, talking to people, and using social media in a locally oriented way\" can actually make a difference, that can be it. Plus, given younger folks' abysmal turnout despite relatively high amounts of leisure time, young folks can do more politically in general, including doing more to support younger folks in politics. Like, there's room for improvement in multiple areas - among young folks who seek office themselves, among young folks in general who are so politically checked out, and yes, also among local political establishment. But there needs to be some willingness to work together - and sadly so many young people seem to really like the idea of strongly opposing party establishment and having nothing to do with them, which is a good way to get locked out of any support from that angle",
">\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude, young people on average have 2 jobs and can't afford housing. You do not have a grasp on what life is like in America if you think the biggest problem getting Young people into politics is laziness and antiestablishmentarianism. Volunteering takes time that young people don't have due to working an incredible amount. Everything you say requires a place of financial privilage that frankly most young people don't have. I'm an elder millennial and when I was in my 20s I consistently had two jobs, one full time (50 hrs a week, no overtime bc it was commission based) and one part time up to another 30 hours. I've regularly put in close to 100 hrs in a work week and still not been able to afford food and housing. When you're worried about getting food or not getting evicted, there are more pressing issues than volunteering for a political office with low to no pay. \nYoung people also don't necessarily oppose party establishment. A lot of older people in local politics especially are very condescending and want to tell us that their outdated opinions of how things are as if it's fact, instead of listening to our actual lived experiences and changing their perspectives. If older people gave more credence to the issues working young people face every day and then accommodated those issues by making political involvement more financially accessible, not nearly as many young people would stay politically stagnant. If you don't remove accessibility hurdles, you can't ascribe the blame to other issues.\nETA: I interpreted \"lower rates of employment\" as \"working less\". If you're referring to the percentage of young people in the workforce, that's mainly lower overall due to young people pursuing education, but also bc older people are staying in the work force longer and taking up jobs that young people would normally do. The solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old. As for working in general, young people tend to put in more work hours a week and have less time to themselves, and therefore work more hours than we historically have. Lower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.",
">\n\n\nYoung people tend to have lower rates of employment according to what?? Lmfao. Dude\n\nYes, that is the case. It's a long term trend too\n\nLower percentage of young people, but a higher percentage of jobs and hours worked per young employee.\n\nI mean, younger workers are also more likely to work for fewer hours compared to older folks\n\nThe solution to this is ofc to expand Medicare/medicaid and social security, so that older people can have a safety net and not need to work at McDonald's when they're 63 years old\n\nWhat in tarnation?\nSocial security isn't even solvent as it currently is! And if anything, some cuts will be needed to make it solvent. The idea of spending even more on that is fiscally irresponsible and spalling\nLike it or not but there's a real demographic issue occuring. While longevity has plateaued somewhat, people are still living for much longer than they loved when Social Security was established, thus spending more and more time in the unproductive stage of retirement where they are a burden fiscally. And to bear that burden, there's a smaller and smaller amount of younger folks, with birthrates declining more and more, and with little clarity regarding how to turn birthrate declines around (other countries have tried making childcare more affordable, and stuff like that, but it hasn't had much impact - it may be that people just don't want as many kids as in the past regardless of cost issues). None of this means social security is some \"ponzi scheme\" that must be abolished, as some on the right and libertarians like to say, but it does mean that some big changes are needed even just to keep it afloat with status quo benefits, and the idea of expanding benefits may be popular among populists but just doesn't hash out unless we want to go into some sort of Modern Monetary Theory hyperinflation wave or something",
">\n\nNo shit.\nThey designed it to be that way.",
">\n\nThe us political facade is essentially just a game organized, funded and watched over by the american corporations.\nIf a politician doesnt pledge their allegiance to their owners, the owners simply dont pay the “league fees” for that politician to participate in the game that year, and they go and find another player who will.",
">\n\nPolitics is a career for well-to-do retirees, very successful business owners, and the independently wealthy.",
">\n\nGiven politics is all about character assault, I’d think part of the problem is younger generations have grown up with a phone in their hand since birth and have documented all kinds of stupid shit for the world to see. I know I’m glad the stupidity of my youth is a fading memory rather than a YouTube video."
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Is this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.
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">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
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">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
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It’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!"
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They are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned"
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I know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people."
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classic shift of the overton window.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American."
] |
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Seriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in
e; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA
Her social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.
But heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his "Commitment to America" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.
And now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window."
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Democracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power."
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Yep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, "hurting the right people").
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works."
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First rule of Q Club: "Don't talk about Q Club"
Seriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.
Somebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out
"You've activated my trap card!" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\")."
] |
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If Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.
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"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game."
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If Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.
I hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant."
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Yeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore."
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McCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee.
These decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter.
The next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.
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"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least"
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Republicans are the real national secirity risk.
I wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it."
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That’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?"
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Still blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that "he's their guy" and he is "good at owning the libs"
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen."
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Because Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\""
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What kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen."
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The Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?"
] |
>
Wait minuet…..holdup….
The party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people."
] |
>
No, not all the American people. Of course not.
Just the poor and middle class.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?"
] |
>
"no" - McCarthy
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class."
] |
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White House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!
McCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.
White House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy"
] |
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I'm sure Kevin will get right to that
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE"
] |
>
Where the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that"
] |
>
Never gonna happen.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down."
] |
>
McCarthy to White House (and American public): No.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen."
] |
>
So much for transparency.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No."
] |
>
They can’t spell clean.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency."
] |
>
How long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean."
] |
>
As if that would work.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse"
] |
>
Can someone just leak the money trail? Please?
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work."
] |
>
Backroom deals are just another pr word for corruption
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?"
] |
>
The whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption"
] |
>
Every time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy."
] |
>
He will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life."
] |
>
Agree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into."
] |
>
Then maybe the people should echo that statement.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.",
">\n\nAgree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately"
] |
>
White House to McCarthy: ‘Come clean’ on your backroom speaker deals
McCarthy: no.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.",
">\n\nAgree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately",
">\n\nThen maybe the people should echo that statement."
] |
>
Did they make the same demands of Pelosi? Or any other?
It’s showmanship, as always. Back room deals are no doubt standard practice and if you want to expose McCarthy, fine, but everyone should be held to the same standard. What was Manchin promised behind the scenes to bring him to heel? It should be about what the citizens want but let’s be real, it rarely is.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.",
">\n\nAgree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately",
">\n\nThen maybe the people should echo that statement.",
">\n\n\nWhite House to McCarthy: ‘Come clean’ on your backroom speaker deals\n\nMcCarthy: no."
] |
>
Both-sidism at its finest.
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.",
">\n\nAgree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately",
">\n\nThen maybe the people should echo that statement.",
">\n\n\nWhite House to McCarthy: ‘Come clean’ on your backroom speaker deals\n\nMcCarthy: no.",
">\n\nDid they make the same demands of Pelosi? Or any other?\nIt’s showmanship, as always. Back room deals are no doubt standard practice and if you want to expose McCarthy, fine, but everyone should be held to the same standard. What was Manchin promised behind the scenes to bring him to heel? It should be about what the citizens want but let’s be real, it rarely is."
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Lol. Someone brings in a valid comparison and the serfs create and dismissive term for their rulers.
Yes, it's fair to point out that the criticism of these people only comes when the shoe is on the other foot.
The point of 'both-sidism' is to display the lack of true conviction behind their current criticism and shows it for what it really is, dirty politics.
And this sub eats it up.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.",
">\n\nAgree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately",
">\n\nThen maybe the people should echo that statement.",
">\n\n\nWhite House to McCarthy: ‘Come clean’ on your backroom speaker deals\n\nMcCarthy: no.",
">\n\nDid they make the same demands of Pelosi? Or any other?\nIt’s showmanship, as always. Back room deals are no doubt standard practice and if you want to expose McCarthy, fine, but everyone should be held to the same standard. What was Manchin promised behind the scenes to bring him to heel? It should be about what the citizens want but let’s be real, it rarely is.",
">\n\nBoth-sidism at its finest."
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Lol Pelosi told Trump everything. What do they expect.
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[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.",
">\n\nAgree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately",
">\n\nThen maybe the people should echo that statement.",
">\n\n\nWhite House to McCarthy: ‘Come clean’ on your backroom speaker deals\n\nMcCarthy: no.",
">\n\nDid they make the same demands of Pelosi? Or any other?\nIt’s showmanship, as always. Back room deals are no doubt standard practice and if you want to expose McCarthy, fine, but everyone should be held to the same standard. What was Manchin promised behind the scenes to bring him to heel? It should be about what the citizens want but let’s be real, it rarely is.",
">\n\nBoth-sidism at its finest.",
">\n\nLol. Someone brings in a valid comparison and the serfs create and dismissive term for their rulers.\nYes, it's fair to point out that the criticism of these people only comes when the shoe is on the other foot.\nThe point of 'both-sidism' is to display the lack of true conviction behind their current criticism and shows it for what it really is, dirty politics.\nAnd this sub eats it up."
] |
>
|
[
"“An unprecedented tax hike on the middle class and a national abortion ban are just a glimpse of the secret, backroom deals Speaker McCarthy made with extreme MAGA members to end this month’s chaotic elections and claim the gavel,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement shared first with POLITICO. “It is well past time for Speaker McCarthy and the ultra MAGA Republican House members to come out of the dark and tell the American people, in-full, what they decided in secret.”",
">\n\nAnybody want to rewrite \"The Room Where it Happens\" to fit these secret dealings?",
">\n\nCan we end it with a duel?",
">\n\nYou mean like a duel a duel?",
">\n\nLike the kind when Awon Bwer shot Alexander Hamilton",
">\n\nIs this a joke referring to that commercial with the guy with peanut butter in his mouth? I'm kind of buzzed so just ignore me if not.",
">\n\nI'm so relieved somebody got the reference!",
">\n\nIt’s all I think about when Hamilton is mentioned",
">\n\nThey are way too interested in Hunter Biden’s penis to care about serving the American people.",
">\n\nI know it’s not the point and irrelevant but I really hate the term ultra maga. Just use maga. They’re already the extremists. I feel like this creates two groups of magas which normalizes one when it should be clear than any maga policy is anti American.",
">\n\nclassic shift of the overton window.",
">\n\nSeriously, especially when it should be clear that any Republican policy is anti American, MAGA or Tea Party or moderate or whatever bullshit branding they try to cloak themselves in\ne; OP's prediction is playing out right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming the acceptable kind of MAGA\n\nHer social media posts before she entered Congress included language suggesting support for executing top Democrats, her personal Twitter account was suspended for violating COVID misinformation policies (and was recently reinstated after Elon Musk took over the company) and she was part of a group of Republican lawmakers that objected to the certification of the 2020 election.\nBut heading into the 2022 midterms, when Republicans were projected to retake control of the House, Greene's political clout began expanding beyond the fringe of the party and into more of the mainstream. When McCarthy unveiled his \"Commitment to America\" policy agenda last fall, Greene was behind him — literally and metaphorically — as he spoke.\nAnd now that Republicans only control the House by the narrowest of margins, Greene's unwavering support for McCarthy, alongside her unflinching commitment to ultraconservative policies, places her into a new nexus of power.",
">\n\nDemocracy hates this one trick, and you won't believe how many times rebranding works.",
">\n\nYep, MAGA is just recycled Tea Party is just recycled compassionate conservatism is just recycled contract with America is just recycled morning in America is just recycled silent majority. Government assistance for you and people who look like you, government punishment for everyone else (aka, \"hurting the right people\").",
">\n\nFirst rule of Q Club: \"Don't talk about Q Club\"\nSeriously while I and many other people including McCarthy's party would like to know the details we won't hear about them until they become relevant.\nSomebody in the House will do something, or McCarthy will do something and Bobo or Gaetz will yell out \n\"You've activated my trap card!\" like being Representative in real life is just some fucking game.",
">\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024. Even my conservative loved ones are basically asking themselves what the fuck they are doing. Now they want to impeach Anthony Mayorkas and yet cry about the weaponization of the government. My own conservative father expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for Pennsylvania governor possibly four years from now. These people just aren't representing them and they feel it no matter what Fox News tells them. These people think they can act out of nothing but self interest and get away with it. They have become worse than the lying libs in some people's eyes. Now sure some people will always vote for them, but unfortunately for them not everyone is actively cultivating their confirmation bias hard enough to keep up with them. Since when is it ok to impeach someone for simply having differing policies and opinions? Never. Impeachment is meant for actually keeping people responsible for crimes and abuse of power. They also can see how Republicans have created a toxic political atmosphere. Like even if they wanted to hate Biden for the documents they are finding the Republicans have already set a precedent that we cannot charge a sitting President. They see that they messed up defending Trump and other unscrupulous Republican figures and now it's a double standard to demand accountability from Democrats who simply have different opinions. It's unconstitutional in so many ways! They used to be considered a party of logic and reason to some extent until they doubled down on their anti-woke culture wars. End of rant.",
">\n\n\nIf Republicans keep this up they'll be voted out with a swiftness come 2024.\n\nI hope you're right... but I'm not certain about any of that anymore.",
">\n\nYeah pretty sure we heard this in 2018 and again in 2020 at the least",
">\n\nMcCarthy just put Greene and Gosar on the oversight committee. Greene also got put on the Homeland Security Committee. \nThese decisions tell me everything I need to know about what a spineless idiot McCarthy is. Neither one of them should be anywhere near a committee... or even congress for that matter. \nThe next two years are going to be frustratingly pathetic and nothing will get done. And then these scumbags will blame Biden for it.",
">\n\nRepublicans are the real national secirity risk.\nI wonder what kinds of money and weapons the russians are gonna get from republicans?",
">\n\nThat’s like asking a Republican to not support pedophiles…just not gonna happen.",
">\n\nStill blows my mind that there is proof Gaetz gave a 17 year old money, and flew her across the country, and nothing. Nothing has come of this. Like what the actual fuck. In a normal functioning country - that person would be asked to step down and everyone would keep their distance. Yet Repubs proudly claim that \"he's their guy\" and he is \"good at owning the libs\"",
">\n\nBecause Gaetz controls the board that would investigate.... Gaetz. He's not going to allow that to happen.",
">\n\nWhat kind of deal do McCarthy and Santos have? How much Russian money is Santos kicking up to McCarthy?",
">\n\nThe Republican Party not doing a damn thing to help the American people.",
">\n\nWait minuet…..holdup…. \nThe party of less taxes want to tax the American people on every transaction they make?",
">\n\nNo, not all the American people. Of course not. \nJust the poor and middle class.",
">\n\n\"no\" - McCarthy",
">\n\nWhite House: okay McCarthy, we know you did some shady dealings. Come clean!\nMcCarthy: No. And I'll put terrorists on the homeland safety committee.\nWhite House: well, okay. I guess NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE",
">\n\nI'm sure Kevin will get right to that",
">\n\nWhere the fuck is Anonymous in any of this? They used to be about fighting against this type of crap and putting corruption on blast but they’ve been sitting on their hands this whole time doing absolutely nothing. What a let down.",
">\n\nNever gonna happen.",
">\n\nMcCarthy to White House (and American public): No.",
">\n\nSo much for transparency.",
">\n\nThey can’t spell clean.",
">\n\nHow long till some one votes to unseat him? He has no friends and this just makes it worse",
">\n\nAs if that would work.",
">\n\nCan someone just leak the money trail? Please?",
">\n\nBackroom deals are just another pr word for corruption",
">\n\nThe whole point of being a Republican is to keep govt small so you have lower taxes. The Republican Party no longer represents anyone except the ultra wealthy.",
">\n\nEvery time I see his face and hear him talk, I just throw up a little and feel so much disgust for human life.",
">\n\nHe will become Reichskanzler and then that office will be merged with the office of Reichspräsident which McCarthy will of course step riiiight into.",
">\n\nAgree with the sentiment don’t get me wrong. The WH doesn’t have a ton of ground to stand on atm unfortunately",
">\n\nThen maybe the people should echo that statement.",
">\n\n\nWhite House to McCarthy: ‘Come clean’ on your backroom speaker deals\n\nMcCarthy: no.",
">\n\nDid they make the same demands of Pelosi? Or any other?\nIt’s showmanship, as always. Back room deals are no doubt standard practice and if you want to expose McCarthy, fine, but everyone should be held to the same standard. What was Manchin promised behind the scenes to bring him to heel? It should be about what the citizens want but let’s be real, it rarely is.",
">\n\nBoth-sidism at its finest.",
">\n\nLol. Someone brings in a valid comparison and the serfs create and dismissive term for their rulers.\nYes, it's fair to point out that the criticism of these people only comes when the shoe is on the other foot.\nThe point of 'both-sidism' is to display the lack of true conviction behind their current criticism and shows it for what it really is, dirty politics.\nAnd this sub eats it up.",
">\n\nLol Pelosi told Trump everything. What do they expect."
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okay for the more than 700,000 people who live in this district to have no legitimate representation. Rep. Torres understands how insulting it is for us to be told to ‘Live with it. Get over it. Your voice does not matter.’ We will not be silent and deserve to have a representative who tells us the truth. We look forward to our ongoing collaboration with Rep. Torres to deliver accountability for the people of this district and to finally get Santos the squatter evicted from office once and for all.”
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I'm no expert, but with all the money donated to his campaign that was built on lies, this has to be some kind of fraud, right?
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"okay for the more than 700,000 people who live in this district to have no legitimate representation. Rep. Torres understands how insulting it is for us to be told to ‘Live with it. Get over it. Your voice does not matter.’ We will not be silent and deserve to have a representative who tells us the truth. We look forward to our ongoing collaboration with Rep. Torres to deliver accountability for the people of this district and to finally get Santos the squatter evicted from office once and for all.”"
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Definitely, and hopefully the prosecutable kind.
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"okay for the more than 700,000 people who live in this district to have no legitimate representation. Rep. Torres understands how insulting it is for us to be told to ‘Live with it. Get over it. Your voice does not matter.’ We will not be silent and deserve to have a representative who tells us the truth. We look forward to our ongoing collaboration with Rep. Torres to deliver accountability for the people of this district and to finally get Santos the squatter evicted from office once and for all.”",
">\n\nI'm no expert, but with all the money donated to his campaign that was built on lies, this has to be some kind of fraud, right?"
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"okay for the more than 700,000 people who live in this district to have no legitimate representation. Rep. Torres understands how insulting it is for us to be told to ‘Live with it. Get over it. Your voice does not matter.’ We will not be silent and deserve to have a representative who tells us the truth. We look forward to our ongoing collaboration with Rep. Torres to deliver accountability for the people of this district and to finally get Santos the squatter evicted from office once and for all.”",
">\n\nI'm no expert, but with all the money donated to his campaign that was built on lies, this has to be some kind of fraud, right?",
">\n\nDefinitely, and hopefully the prosecutable kind."
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Mode sonnet (e-white with multicolor accent) with GMK muted 2 and mr sleeves original keycaps. I went with the aluminum plate, no foams, stock boba u4ts and staebies. I’m loving the poppy / creamy sound, a nice change from my previous topre board
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Is that an Nvidia mug?
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"Mode sonnet (e-white with multicolor accent) with GMK muted 2 and mr sleeves original keycaps. I went with the aluminum plate, no foams, stock boba u4ts and staebies. I’m loving the poppy / creamy sound, a nice change from my previous topre board"
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👍
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"Mode sonnet (e-white with multicolor accent) with GMK muted 2 and mr sleeves original keycaps. I went with the aluminum plate, no foams, stock boba u4ts and staebies. I’m loving the poppy / creamy sound, a nice change from my previous topre board",
">\n\nIs that an Nvidia mug?"
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Great choice! Nice mouse too. Love mine!
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"Mode sonnet (e-white with multicolor accent) with GMK muted 2 and mr sleeves original keycaps. I went with the aluminum plate, no foams, stock boba u4ts and staebies. I’m loving the poppy / creamy sound, a nice change from my previous topre board",
">\n\nIs that an Nvidia mug?",
">\n\n👍"
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Thanks! Yeah it’s been great. I had to lube the scroll wheel with some stabilizer lube to stop it from squeaking, but otherwise it’s a great mouse
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"Mode sonnet (e-white with multicolor accent) with GMK muted 2 and mr sleeves original keycaps. I went with the aluminum plate, no foams, stock boba u4ts and staebies. I’m loving the poppy / creamy sound, a nice change from my previous topre board",
">\n\nIs that an Nvidia mug?",
">\n\n👍",
">\n\nGreat choice! Nice mouse too. Love mine!"
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Smart. May have to do that too!
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"Mode sonnet (e-white with multicolor accent) with GMK muted 2 and mr sleeves original keycaps. I went with the aluminum plate, no foams, stock boba u4ts and staebies. I’m loving the poppy / creamy sound, a nice change from my previous topre board",
">\n\nIs that an Nvidia mug?",
">\n\n👍",
">\n\nGreat choice! Nice mouse too. Love mine!",
">\n\nThanks! Yeah it’s been great. I had to lube the scroll wheel with some stabilizer lube to stop it from squeaking, but otherwise it’s a great mouse"
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"Mode sonnet (e-white with multicolor accent) with GMK muted 2 and mr sleeves original keycaps. I went with the aluminum plate, no foams, stock boba u4ts and staebies. I’m loving the poppy / creamy sound, a nice change from my previous topre board",
">\n\nIs that an Nvidia mug?",
">\n\n👍",
">\n\nGreat choice! Nice mouse too. Love mine!",
">\n\nThanks! Yeah it’s been great. I had to lube the scroll wheel with some stabilizer lube to stop it from squeaking, but otherwise it’s a great mouse",
">\n\nSmart. May have to do that too!"
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idk if that's unpopular, I thought this was established facts?
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Some people have childish taste buds lol.
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"idk if that's unpopular, I thought this was established facts?"
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I agree! I prefer more crust and graham cracker. My favorite part of cheesecake, apple pie, etc.
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"idk if that's unpopular, I thought this was established facts?",
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I love crust! Somewhat similarly (or maybe the complete opposite) I hate the frosting or icing on desserts and feel they are much better without.
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"idk if that's unpopular, I thought this was established facts?",
">\n\nSome people have childish taste buds lol.",
">\n\nI agree! I prefer more crust and graham cracker. My favorite part of cheesecake, apple pie, etc."
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Yeeeeeees 😋🥧🤤
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"idk if that's unpopular, I thought this was established facts?",
">\n\nSome people have childish taste buds lol.",
">\n\nI agree! I prefer more crust and graham cracker. My favorite part of cheesecake, apple pie, etc.",
">\n\nI love crust! Somewhat similarly (or maybe the complete opposite) I hate the frosting or icing on desserts and feel they are much better without."
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You would love this – I recently made a cheesecake with the shortbread crust. With the extra crust, we just made shortbread cookies. So we were literally eating the crust itself (in the form of cookies!).
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"idk if that's unpopular, I thought this was established facts?",
">\n\nSome people have childish taste buds lol.",
">\n\nI agree! I prefer more crust and graham cracker. My favorite part of cheesecake, apple pie, etc.",
">\n\nI love crust! Somewhat similarly (or maybe the complete opposite) I hate the frosting or icing on desserts and feel they are much better without.",
">\n\nYeeeeeees 😋🥧🤤"
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