I am trying to research a family line that shares a name, but not sure if anywhere in the distant or near past we share a common ancestor and both sides are interested in doing a Y-DNA test, we just lack a living male.

The last non-adopted male descendants who was interested in genealogy died less than 15 years ago, and their family has several items identified as 'good sources of DNA' according to several sites and they have offered up for potential testing. There is only one male living in the line and they are not interested in participating in the test, nor will they have any sons at this point. I am obviously also not going to attempt to pressure them in participating as DNA testing is a choice.

Several younger descendants of the line have done Autosomal tests but the distance is to great to match to any of the other lines with an implied common origin but no common ancestor yet (name, location, dates match up.. just not to an individual). We would like to conclusively tell if it happens to be a random or there is a distant relationship beyond the range of the Autosomal tests.

So that leaves us with forensic DNA testing. The cost of forensic DNA testing is not cheap (at least 2-10 times a normal Y-str DNA test) and the services I have seen so far only offer low marker counts [like Y-17](http://www.forensicdnacenter.com/dna-casework.html) which is not very conclusive for the cost in terms of genealogy and for conclusive results.

I have scanned over the [list of providers on ISOGG's site](http://www.isogg.org/wiki/List_of_forensic_and_ancient_DNA_laboratories#USA) but not found a provider yet that offer a test to the public at this level in the United States.

I realize from other posts Y-DNA is harder to obtain forensically, especially compared to mtDNA which is more commonly spread through normal human activities as well as most forensic DNA service make 'no guarantee' of being able to obtain it obviously. 

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